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Poll
Question: What's your favorite Mega Evolution (G2)
Option 1: Ampharos
Option 2: Scizor
Option 3: Heracross
Option 4: Houndoom
Option 5: Tyranitar
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 18, 2010, 04:32:25 PM
I felt since a bunch of us got off topic with Pokémon Gen IV in the Gen V and vice-versa... id just create a thread for all... and have you seen some stuff from PLDH... like these Pokémon 493 wallpapers?
HERE? (http://pldh.net/gallery/the493)


Which one's your favorite?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: pumpy_heart on July 18, 2010, 04:54:15 PM
The Lanturn one.
Except it's not there :'(
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 18, 2010, 04:57:25 PM
Quote from: pumpy_heart on July 18, 2010, 04:54:15 PMThe Lanturn one.
Except it's not there :'(

it hasnt been made yet
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 18, 2010, 05:19:06 PM
Well, I like the Electrode one ;D

And the Slowpoke is pretty cool. They should make one for Hypno.

As for favorite Pokemon overall.... I'd probably be able to narrow it down to one or two for each type...except Normal. Love all normal types pretty much.
Normal - see previous statement
Fire - Vulpix
Water - Slowpoke
Grass - Chikorita/Bulbasaur/Leafeon
Electric - Minun/Ampharos
Ice - Eh, probably Lapras or Jynx
Fighting - Hitmonchan
Poison - Muk
Ground - Hippopotas
Flying - Honchkrow
Psychic - All of them
Bug - Shuckle
Rock - Omastar
Ghost - Misdreavus/Dusknoir
Dragon - Salamence
Dark - Umbreon/Cacturne
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 18, 2010, 05:25:59 PM
theyre making more everyday!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 18, 2010, 05:30:20 PM
Backgrounds, you mean? Tell me if you see Hypno's. It would look cool.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 18, 2010, 05:48:49 PM
sure will.

i really love umbreons!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on July 18, 2010, 05:57:10 PM
My favorite pokemon's Poliwhirl, but I also love Umbreon.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 18, 2010, 06:00:02 PM
Poliwhirl is just...classic.

I like Misty's Psyduck in the anime :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on July 18, 2010, 06:03:16 PM
Haha I agree, he's awesome. :)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 18, 2010, 06:05:21 PM
I was roflmao when James bought a Magikarp... then even more so when it saved them from drowning... then even MORE so when he kicked it overboard and it evolved. xD
Recently started watching the anime online...haven't seen an episode in a while though. Kinda got out of it.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 18, 2010, 06:15:38 PM
i still do... a little. im watching old battle frontier epis
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 18, 2010, 06:24:08 PM
I have some of the Hoenn eps on DVD.

I love the Hoenn season, but nothing really beats good ol' season one.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 18, 2010, 06:30:04 PM
i remember watching each new episode on tv!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 18, 2010, 06:31:52 PM
Don't really watch new episodes of shows when they come on, except for Total Drama (unfortunately addicted to that show) and The Middle (far funnier than Modern Family).
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 18, 2010, 06:55:22 PM
Anyway... are any of y'all playing Pokemon games currently? Haven't played HeartGold in a few games - concentrating on Partners in Time.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 18, 2010, 07:48:01 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on July 18, 2010, 06:31:52 PMDon't really watch new episodes of shows when they come on, except for Total Drama (unfortunately addicted to that show) and The Middle (far funnier than Modern Family).

I am fortunately addicted to The Office, 30 Rock and Community... and The Middle is really funny!

Im trying to breed some Eevees, and make a nice set of them (in heartgold)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 18, 2010, 08:18:34 PM
In soulsilver the only eeveelutions i have are espeon and flareon.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 18, 2010, 08:25:01 PM
I gotta get me an Umbreon!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 18, 2010, 08:26:31 PM
same here
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: pumpy_heart on July 18, 2010, 08:55:23 PM
animefreak.tv = Pokemon paradise.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 18, 2010, 09:47:55 PM
ill keep that in mind just in case my university REALLY monitors torrents and such!

Anyone have a favorite part of the new B/W series?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nana1Popo2 on July 18, 2010, 11:12:17 PM
Quote from: pumpy_heart on July 18, 2010, 08:55:23 PManimefreak.tv

yes!

and I hope they make a Nidoking one soon, haha. those wallpapers look pretty cool actually! definitely need a new one, and im looking at the pikachu if not the nidoking if it comes out haha :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 18, 2010, 11:14:16 PM
i downloaded about 30 of them... since i have windows 7 (and mac osx) it can change the pictures whenever I want it!!

If you go find the changelog thread there, it'll tell you whats coming up (and i believe I saw nidoking)

EDIT: Nidoking is up... between Sandslash and Vulpix
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nana1Popo2 on July 18, 2010, 11:20:40 PM
woah dont know why i didnt see that... hmm. thanks! haha Ill keep the Kingler one up for a bit :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 18, 2010, 11:25:50 PM
thats a cool one. i really like the umbreon one... so mysterious. i hope they make a lapras one!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 19, 2010, 06:31:29 AM
Still waiting for Hypno here!

:D

EDIT: Gengar's is super cool as well.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperFireKirby on July 19, 2010, 07:27:55 AM
Quote from: pumpy_heart on July 18, 2010, 08:55:23 PManimefreak.tv = Pokemon paradise.
Agreed.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on July 19, 2010, 10:44:03 AM
I want a Poliwhirl one. 
And animefreak's the exact same as animecrazy, right?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 19, 2010, 10:45:28 AM
they have a poliwhirl one... i believe, either that or poliwrath

and yes, animefreak is a little anime-freaky!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on July 19, 2010, 11:32:43 AM
Yeah, they have a Poliwrath one. You can see which one it is because of its eyes.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 19, 2010, 11:33:25 AM
I like Poliwhirl better than Poliwrath lookwise.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on July 19, 2010, 11:34:24 AM
Same here. I like the way Poliwrath looks, but Poliwhirl is just better imho.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 19, 2010, 11:34:45 AM
Yeah. Poliwrath's eyes are too small and Hypno-ish.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 19, 2010, 11:36:40 AM
Yep... i never really evolve Poliwhirl into Poliwrath, only sometimes. Poliwhirl can be pretty cool/powerful when I want it to be!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 19, 2010, 11:37:19 AM
I prefer Politoed! :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on July 19, 2010, 11:42:19 AM
I don't like Politoed. I don't know, he kinda looks retarded. x)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 19, 2010, 11:43:18 AM
I like how its cry controls Poliwag.  :O
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 19, 2010, 11:45:31 AM
That's why Poliwhirl is the best bet... though as I said, I sometimes use Poliwrath for certain things

Politoed was just bad overall
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 19, 2010, 11:46:06 AM
I like Poliwrath for a team. Poliwhirl looks cool though.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 19, 2010, 11:51:23 AM
I sometimes do... i usually use Blastoise for a water Pokémon, or Lapras if im going for the mix
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 19, 2010, 11:53:28 AM
In gen III, I use Ludicolo or a lowlevel tentacruel with Surf, Waterfall, Dive, and Cut.

Gen I, I use Lapras or Blastoise, if anything.

Gen IV, I use an assortment of water-types.

Gen II... haven't been through it enough times to say.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on July 19, 2010, 11:55:46 AM
I usually go for a Poliwrath, or sometimes Poliwhirl when I don't feel like evolving it.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 19, 2010, 12:10:29 PM
Ive always hated Tentacool/Tentacruel... never my favorites (though they can make some cool hats)

But, its all meh to me right now... In Gen III, i used swampert for surf and then other water pokémon for dive and waterfall
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 20, 2010, 10:58:07 AM
Muk went up today.

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.pldh.net%2Fgallery%2Fthe493%2Fthumb_muk.jpg&hash=22b873d874ac048cdb0dbc28f1beea00967ec315)

That looks pretty cool! I still like this one as well. :3

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.pldh.net%2Fgallery%2Fthe493%2Fthumb_Murkrow.jpg&hash=6bb6f051a7c0d02111b7b7bd921459f6bea6fe11)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 21, 2010, 11:01:39 AM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on July 18, 2010, 04:32:25 PMI felt since a bunch of us got off topic with Pokémon Gen IV in the Gen V and vice-versa... id just create a thread for all... and have you seen some stuff from PLDH... like these Pokémon 493 wallpapers?
HERE? (http://pldh.net/gallery/the493)


Which one's your favorite?


Sorry about a double post, but that link no longer works for me. (-_-')
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on July 21, 2010, 11:35:40 AM
The website may just be down at the moment, so just try again later.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 23, 2010, 10:39:10 AM
It is down, for how long, who knows?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Dude on July 23, 2010, 10:55:31 AM
What are you people talking about. It works fine.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 23, 2010, 10:59:07 AM
It just tries to load... and nothing. You probably just got lucky! I've been trying to access this site for a couple days now!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Dude on July 23, 2010, 11:04:13 AM
http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/6748/youguysarecrazy.png
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 23, 2010, 11:10:16 AM
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi756.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fxx209%2Fnkontrimas%2FScreenshots%2Fmyrebuttal.jpg&hash=9820effdf772a18b97cbe966c856fa4a4ffb122d)

and i tried on my windows PC with IE, Firefox, Safari and Chrome... nothing
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on July 24, 2010, 03:18:27 AM
Hey! Politoed is a happy frog! Overworld-wise, that makes him a million times better than grumpy Poliwrath. Though, when it comes to professional battling, his best spot is on the side line, waving a small flag and cheering (oh, can't get that image out of my head).

Also, stick Swords Dance to a Tentacruel and run amok with Waterfall and Poison Jab and whatnot. Or a defensive/supportive Toxic Spikes/Rapid Spin set.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on July 24, 2010, 01:06:00 PM
Sorry for double posting, but I'm feeling nostalgic today. Also, I have little to do (well, I guess I should work with Emergence, but don't worry, I do that too).

Tonight, I want to talk about a Pokémon that has kept a special place in my heart ever since I first heard about the franchise. A Pokémon that was widely feared in the beginning of the saga, both game- and anime-wise. If you ever were to walk around in a Pokémon forest, this was the number one Pokémon to look out for. It still is. Ferocious, inhuman, semi-lethal (as far as I understand it, wounds caused by Pokémon will heal themselves, so they can't kill. However, the target will be knocked out for a long time, depending on the force of the attack. Read Emergence for further explaination), and totally badass. Except that in the games, it was a bad ass at best. It had limited value in terms of practically everything, learnt few moves and was both offensively, defensively and supportively one of the worst fully-evolved Pokémon in the games.

Tonight, I'll dedicate a speech to Beedrill.

By looks alone, Beedrill is one of the most awesome Pokémon in existence, hands down. Scizor might be the "ultimate bug" of today, but before Scizor, Beedrill owned the fear sections of our brains. A wasp or bee, ranging from half a metre in size to bigger than a full-grown man, with knife-sharp stingers on each hand and a particularly nasty toxic spike on its abdomen. Large wings so it appears bigger. And to complete it all, the eyes. Red, large, inhuman. Coldly calculating, like camera lenses or motion sensors. Yet worse, they hunt in swarms. Many of the hardcore fans from the early days, when 150 Pokémon seemed like a vast number, can attest that one of their childhood fears was a Beedrill attack. How many of us didn't walk around in forests in our dreams, when suddenly a sound like a chainsaw roared from the sky, and a swarm of man-sized bees dropped from above? Scyther might have been a cold-blooded ninja, and Venomoth might have been creepy as hell (look at those eyes), but nobody could match a Beedrill. Not even Scizor or Heracross could match a swarm of them.

But GameFreak, despite giving this adorable little hell-bug the looks which gained so much fame, decided that its main selling point would be aquisition as early as lvl 10. Thus, it couldn't be too powerful, or the game would be too easy. In the early days, Beedrill never got any better moves than Pin Missile (Base Power 28) by levelling up, and while some of us wasted a TM 15 on it, the strongest move we gave it with other means was usually Cut. Generation II was not nicer with it. It got Pursuit (did I mention that Beedrill would follow you for kilometres on end if you disturbed it, a distance it would comfortably cover in a couple of minutes?) as its new strongest move, and some game designer gave it Sludge Bomb as a TM move, presumably out of sheer sympathy. Still, Beedrill's movepool was abysmal at best. Its only selling point was mediocre Swords Dance sets, built from TMs that could be used way better on other Pokémon. The addition of Steel types made it an even worse attacker. Those days, I bet Game Beedrill cried itself to sleep, dreaming about the respect it was given in the Animé. Even Ariados was a more viable option than it, thanks to Spider Web, and Ariados itself was but a bleak copy of our hero bee.
Then Generation III came along. Beedrill got the meagre Endeavour, and an ability you saw a-plenty with all the other bugs. It had a comparatively shallower movepool than ever, and was even outclassed by Raticate. It enjoyed the respect of Seaking, Ledian and Luvdisc, and even Magnemite could beat it without breaking a spark (Magnemite don't sweat, do they?). In competitive play, Forretress annoyed its opponents to tears, Ninjask outspeeded everything, and Scizor was more memorable to new fans than the half-useless Beedrill. I had almost given it up myself, I was at the point of refusing to catch it so I wouldn't have to face reality, and live with the memories instead. We all remembered Beedrill as awesome, but upon inspection, it really wasn't at all.

So, on the doorstep to a new generation, where is Beedrill today? In the shadow of almost every other Bug type, long since forgotten, and barely seen used in the remakes of the classic games. Beedrill is a ghost of nostalgia, well-known from way back then, but not even used by the Pokémon marketing team any more. From Generation I, there was Pikachu, Mewtwo, Meowth, the starters and Beedrill we remembered. Two still haunt the Animé, one got a movie and a special episode dedicated to it, nine enjoy eternal fame, while Beedrill sobs in the shade of Grumpig, Furret and Skuntank. It shares its destiny with a lot of bug brethren, but Beedrill is the veteran. Ariados, Mothim, Ledian, Volbeat; they are all newcomers. Before they were even thought of, Beedrill soared on silver wings through the woods. This once-so-mighty bee, a source of inspiration for a ton of new Bug Pokémon, deserved a better fate than this. However, it has one ace up its sleeve. And mind you, it has to pull those stingers through its sleeves, so the sleeve is big:

Lo and behold (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36VRrTkTe2s)

X-scizzor was the move Beedrill needed to rise up. A generation ago, it got an ability which boosted... Twineedle (now buffed to 50 Base Power. Bubblebeam is 60, do the math). Thank you, Game Freak. Now, let's see what it can do with X-scizzor, SilverPowder, Swarm and Swords Dance. Watch the video. I just saw it, and my love for the monster bee bloomed again. Of course, it won't rise to the standards of Scizor, not any more. It will never outspeed Ninjask, and not cause Kyogre to flee in terror like Shedinja. It won't take hits like the bunker Forretress, or win the hearts of little sisters like Beautifly. But Beedrill can punch holes in Snorlax and one-hit-KO Tyranitar after a little setup. Beedrill isn't an useless-but-cool Pokémon anymore, at least not totally. He has proven that if you make him angry enough, Beedrill will haunt your dreams again.

So that's Beedrill. Average at best, hiding in niches to be effective, but totally badass. To us veterans, there will never be a scarier Pokémon, nothing will ever make you jump at buzzing sounds like the bee from the first generation. Back when Pokémon was Pokémon.

To Beedrill.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 24, 2010, 01:36:14 PM
Quote from: Cobraroll on July 24, 2010, 01:06:00 PMSorry for double posting, but I'm feeling nostalgic today. Also, I have little to do (well, I guess I should work with Emergence, but don't worry, I do that too).

-Insert Ode to Beedrill here- (even though it isnt a poem)

Somebody really loves Beedrill. I could write one on Squirtle, but I dont have the time
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 24, 2010, 06:37:12 PM
Okay, then. As long as we're doing tributes (sorry if you have copyright issues, Cobraroll :)) I think I'll make one to a very underused Pokemon: Shuckle. Note, I'm mostly doing strategies here. You might find it interesting, though. :)

Shuckle is a very infamous Pokemon. Wretched, crappy offensive stats. Abysmal Speed. Less-than-average HP. What's so great about it? Shuckle holds the record for being the Pokemon in the series with the highest Defense AND Special Defense. If you hit this Bug- and Rock-type Pokemon with a STAB Hydro Pump from a higher-level Blastoise, it MIGHT get it down by 1/5 HP. And it has Sturdy, shielding it from those pesky 1-hit KO moves. Not to mention its resistance to Sandstorm.

Shuckle is curious - and irritating - to use in battle, as of course it has simply horrible offensive stats. In gen II and III, it had potential ability. You could teach it annoying health moves like Rest (combo with Chesto Berry goes for really frustrated opponent). You can have it learn Attract to stop your opponent from using moves that wouldn't have much effect anyway. And then you could use Protect. Encore also goes for good irritation.

But, as we all know, these moves, while fun to use to make your opponent mad, are not enough to win a battle. So, most Shuckle movesets contained a move like Toxic. That's extremely risky, though, as you still have no weapon against Poison- or Steel-type Pokemon. Sandstorm is another option, but it's so slow that there's really no point.

So things really started to get interesting in gen IV. Shuckle was mostly kept with the same moveset. It had the noteworthy addition of Gastro Acid, nullifying the foe's ability.

But the move that gave Shuckle real potential was the addition of Power Trick, which switches the user's Attack and Defense. Now, that often can be bad, as its Speed is still horrible, plus it has terrible Defense now.

This can still be used to your advantage. A very skilled usage of Power Trick can be found here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JzKMzQ64q0

Defensive or offensive, Shuckle can be a real powerhouse.

Shuckle: useless? Or misunderstood? Decide for yourself, my friends...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 25, 2010, 11:00:21 AM
interesting stuff. ill write some sort of ode or love poem to a Pokémon that doesn't get much recognition, but some other time when I can sit down for an hour and type away
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 25, 2010, 11:01:08 AM
An HOUR? That took me eight minutes!

:D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 25, 2010, 11:05:31 AM
I like to be reasonable with my time... and this is accounting for getting sidetracked to go to other websites and getting texts and phone calls... so something that takes 5 minutes usually, takes an hour (but if im free from my phone, I might get a 5 minute job done in 3)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on July 25, 2010, 09:54:18 PM
Hey, can I join this thread guise?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 25, 2010, 10:04:26 PM
Quote from: Oni-Link on July 25, 2010, 09:54:18 PMHey, can I join this thread guise?

NO! GET OUT! hahahaha

Everyone's welcome, it doesn't really matter. this is just for anything/everything Pokémon!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on July 25, 2010, 10:07:01 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on July 25, 2010, 10:04:26 PMNO! GET OUT! hahahaha

Everyone's welcome, it doesn't really matter. this is just for anything/everything Pokémon!
Oh cool, now I don't have to talk about it over and over again on this (http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=1736)!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 25, 2010, 10:09:13 PM
... and continuing the conversation, i completely forgot about the magic of sunkern for the Pokéathlon
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 26, 2010, 07:22:50 AM
Cool. I've been taking on quite a few Pokeathlons myself with my Dragonite. I can now enter a few rooms...

And link Pokeathlons give you way more points. :)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on July 26, 2010, 08:19:38 AM
I've tried the Pokeathlon a couple of times, but didn't really like it. It's a really fun addition to the game, but I feel like I don't have time to waste on that especially since I mostly have every item they sell.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 26, 2010, 08:25:25 AM
Quote from: Roz~ on July 26, 2010, 08:19:38 AMI've tried the Pokeathlon a couple of times, but didn't really like it. It's a really fun addition to the game, but I feel like I don't have time to waste on that especially since I mostly have every item they sell.

It's really a time-passer for those who don't love the battle frontier, or are bored of it, and have nothing to do besides daily events. :P

Such as me, except I just never remember the battle frontier. I should go on that today...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on July 26, 2010, 08:37:17 AM
Yeah, I guess so. I'll just stick to breeding for now.  :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 26, 2010, 08:38:57 AM
My brother got an AR DSi, and he's cheating up his Platinum. He's gonna feel guilty about that later. But I warned him. He's gonna have to learn. :(
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on July 26, 2010, 08:46:02 AM
You mean he hacks mons? Then yeah, that's mostly stupid. He'll learn it's not a good idea when he trades them if he ever does.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 26, 2010, 08:46:37 AM
I know.  ::)

But that's his choice, I guess.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on July 26, 2010, 08:53:56 AM
Hacked mons are fine as long as you keep them for yourself, i.e don't trade them/battle with them. So as long as he doesn't then it's fine.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 26, 2010, 08:55:46 AM
Yeah, he probably won't. It's not like he's going crazy with it, though.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on July 26, 2010, 08:57:24 AM
You'd need to win against his hacked team with a legit one to prove him that hacking mons is not worth it. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 26, 2010, 08:58:03 AM
Oh, I already have. :)

But he likes to do it anyway.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on July 26, 2010, 09:00:01 AM
I guess it's hopeless then. x)
Trying to RNG Suicune now. Why can't I get the frame I need?! ...I'm pissed out.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 26, 2010, 09:01:08 AM
Hahahaha. Alright then.

I also beat him in two Pokeathlons... And got tons of points...

But he didn't rui- er, hack his HeartGold yet.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on July 26, 2010, 09:03:02 AM
It's good then, he still has a game that's not hacked... for now. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 26, 2010, 09:03:46 AM
Until he realizes he can download HeartGold cheats offline, you mean.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on July 26, 2010, 09:07:12 AM
Haha, probably.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on July 26, 2010, 09:27:49 AM
Wow, Ethan and Riley look so cool side by side in Multi-Battle Frontier.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 26, 2010, 11:19:13 AM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on July 26, 2010, 09:03:46 AMUntil he realizes he can download HeartGold cheats offline, you mean.

you can't forget about PokéSAV, too... that would be a disaster!

Right now... APRIJUICE. Anyone know how to get Sunkern's stats maxxed. Is their any way possible?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 26, 2010, 11:21:45 AM
Here's a tip: (what I did) enter the bug-catching contest pre-national dex - come in first to get a sun stone... evolve Sunkern, shouldn't be a problem.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 26, 2010, 11:54:33 AM
but then that will decrease being able to up the Pokéathlon stats for sunkern.. it has 25 slots to be filled by Aprijuice and stuff
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on July 26, 2010, 04:44:41 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on July 26, 2010, 11:21:45 AMHere's a tip: (what I did) enter the bug-catching contest pre-national dex - come in first to get a sun stone... evolve Sunkern, shouldn't be a problem.
I get a thousand sun stones when my level 92 phanpys get them through pickup.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on July 26, 2010, 04:54:18 PM
Quote from: Shadoninja on July 26, 2010, 04:44:41 PMI get a thousand sun stones when my level 92 phanpys get them through pickup.
I was like:
"Why the heck didn't you ev-
Oh"
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 26, 2010, 05:08:59 PM
I've finalized my entry Pokéathlon team: Stantler, Buizel and Togetic. I could have gone with Pikachu, but that's another stereotype

Since too many people are complaing of me using stereotypes... I accept your challenge!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on July 26, 2010, 07:15:27 PM
Ugh... In Mystery Dungeon : Sky...
The floors for the legendaries are 20, 30 and 50.
F***ING 50.
THAT'S A LOT OF FLOORS.
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Seven_Treasures
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 26, 2010, 07:43:16 PM
Quote from: Oni-Link on July 26, 2010, 07:15:27 PMUgh... In Mystery Dungeon : Sky...
The floors for the legendaries are 20, 30 and 50.
FUCKING 50.
THAT'S A LOT OF FLOORS.
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Seven_Treasures

HEY! LANGUAGE!
There are children here, you know? If it were up to me, i would let my mouth run, but that aint the case here.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on July 26, 2010, 07:48:03 PM
Is that better?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 26, 2010, 07:48:33 PM
no problem there! i left a detailed message concerning that dl link... please take a look!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 26, 2010, 07:58:43 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on July 26, 2010, 07:43:16 PMHEY! LANGUAGE!
There are children here, you know? If it were up to me, i would let my mouth run, but that aint the case here.

Umm, isn't Oni-Link like twelve?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on July 26, 2010, 08:00:13 PM
I know a kid who's 3, and swears more than the average people. So it doesn't really matter.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on July 26, 2010, 08:00:47 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on July 26, 2010, 07:58:43 PMUmm, isn't Oni-Link like twelve?
I'm 14.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 26, 2010, 08:04:13 PM
Oops! Sorry dude, my eternal bad! I'm 14 as well.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on July 26, 2010, 08:05:57 PM
You kids.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on July 26, 2010, 08:08:12 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on July 26, 2010, 08:05:57 PMYou kids.
:3c
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 26, 2010, 08:09:10 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on July 26, 2010, 08:05:57 PMYou kids.

You and me both, roz! woo! adulthood! (and didnt you just turn magic 18?)

And Slow... youre up past your bedtime... haha.

Off to Pokéathlon for me with my mediocre sounding team!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on July 26, 2010, 08:13:05 PM
Yeah, I sadly am an adult now.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 26, 2010, 08:22:10 PM
I feel your pain. I turned 18 on the last day in may, so im fairly new to this adult thing, too.

Its off to college and to the working world... arrrgh!!

Hopefully, some good can come out of this, too.

Finally, I got some downloaded music organized!

Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on July 26, 2010, 08:35:54 PM
Yep. University next year, meaning I need to move out in a city I don't know. I'll need to learn how to cook, how to do laundry~ I don't feel like it at all. x)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 26, 2010, 09:01:48 PM
Are you staying in Canada, or are you jumping the border to poorly governed frontiers.

The country in itself if fine (just avoid certain places and you're fine)...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on July 26, 2010, 10:31:03 PM
I still don't know. I'm probably going to stay in Canada 'cause it cost a lot more in the US. And I'd still be able to study abroad if I want.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 26, 2010, 10:35:12 PM
You're in Ontario (I think)?

US Universities are astronomical, unless you live in the state and go to a public university... I'm only paying $21,000 USD by the time all is said and done. Most schools here are $50,000 USD with all the fees and crap.

I would have gone to Texas, but it was too expensive and even the UC schools were pretty pricey, so I went to the cheaper, more well known school in the CSU system.

Where do you want to study abroad?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on July 26, 2010, 10:39:48 PM
Is this Pokemon: College Edition?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 26, 2010, 10:41:05 PM
Basically... you still have years to go. ill probably be out of college before you get it.

I loved taking all those AP exams to give me college credit, so a 4 year degree will now take 3 years!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 27, 2010, 06:25:20 AM
That's why I should be taking AP classes. But nope, just a few honors ones. Pretty sad, really.

So. I get my schedule this week. If none of my friends are in any of my classes, I might die. :(
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on July 27, 2010, 07:27:12 AM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on July 26, 2010, 10:35:12 PMYou're in Ontario (I think)?

US Universities are astronomical, unless you live in the state and go to a public university... I'm only paying $21,000 USD by the time all is said and done. Most schools here are $50,000 USD with all the fees and crap.

I would have gone to Texas, but it was too expensive and even the UC schools were pretty pricey, so I went to the cheaper, more well known school in the CSU system.

Where do you want to study abroad?

I'm not in Ontario, I'm in Quebec. I'm probably going to go to the Université Laval in Quebec city since they offer the possibility of studying abroad. I wanted to study in Japan, because it's so different from here, but they only offer my program in Spain... so I guess I'll go with that.

Quote from: SlowPokemon on July 27, 2010, 06:25:20 AMThat's why I should be taking AP classes. But nope, just a few honors ones. Pretty sad, really.

So. I get my schedule this week. If none of my friends are in any of my classes, I might die. :(

I hear none. None of my friends were in my classes last semester, and it really was boring... plus I hated when we had projects to do, since I knew no one. Hope it won't be that way this autumn.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 27, 2010, 08:09:16 AM
Quote from: Roz~ on July 27, 2010, 07:27:12 AMplus I hated when we had projects to do, since I knew no one. Hope it won't be that way this autumn.

Oh my God, YES! And I hate it when the teacher pairs you all with people, and because you're really smart you get stuck with the dumbest frickin' kid in the class. Story of my life. How that helps either of us, I have no idea. The dumb kid feels dumber and the smart kid does all the work, gets frustrated, and ends up hating the dumb kid for getting a good grade on a project he didn't do. X(

STOP THE MADNESS, PEOPLE!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on July 27, 2010, 09:17:17 AM
I feel your pain. Story of my life too. My friend's not the brightest crayon in the box, so I always ended up pairing up with her, because no one else wanted to. I ended up doing all the work, because when she did, we'd get horrible marks. At least now I don't have to anymore since we don't study the same subjects.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 27, 2010, 10:10:36 AM
Haha. Yeeeeeeep.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on July 27, 2010, 10:18:38 AM
Ugh, sometimes Mystery Dungeon can be really hard.
ESPECIALLY MONSTER HOUSES.
GOD I HATE THOSE!
Basically a whole bunch of tough Pokemon fall from the ceiling in one area and knock the SHIT out of you.
http://www.psypokes.com/dungeon/mechanics.php

It's at the bottom of the page.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 27, 2010, 10:22:45 AM
It was the story of my life. I was really smart in some subjects, but not so in others (Physics, ugh), but the people around me were just as smart. They are just lazy. They do their homework the morning its due... even worse, the class before its due. So when I show everyone a project a week before its due, everyone looks at me like I'm taking crazy pills or something. And then there are group projects in my non-AP classes. These guys were so stupid they'd think Garfield is Shakespeare, ok, not THAT stupid, but you get the picture. I usually got stuck in a group (which im not really happy about because of the following) and then everyone would say they would take separate stuff. Then two days before its due, I ask all of them, none of them did it. So I finished it all that night, and to be a wise-ass, I just put my name on it (I only did last year cause I was fedex+ups=fed up). Win for me! Not-so-Win for everyone else... people down here have a SERIOUS procrastination problem

/rant

To keep this Pokémon related, all the seniors for the second semester brought in Gameboys with R/S/E/FR/LG and of course me with SS just played Pokémon in classes, not really caring about much work anymore... WOO Senioritis! I'm cured now, fyi
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on July 27, 2010, 10:37:57 AM
Quote from: Oni-Link on July 27, 2010, 10:18:38 AMUgh, sometimes Mystery Dungeon can be really hard.
ESPECIALLY MONSTER HOUSES.
GOD I HATE THOSE!
Basically a whole bunch of tough Pokemon fall from the ceiling in one area and knock the SHIT out of you.
http://www.psypokes.com/dungeon/mechanics.php

It's at the bottom of the page.

Monster houses are the reason I fainted so much in Mystery Dungeon.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on July 27, 2010, 12:58:09 PM
Ugh... Getting the Seven Treasures. I restart if I don't recruit the Pokemon.
For example:
I WENT 50 FLOORS, FULL OF MONSTER HOUSES, TO GET TO KYOGRE.
AND WHEN I BEAT IT, I DIDN'T RECRUIT IT.
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on July 27, 2010, 01:05:10 PM
I think Kyogre has a recruit rate of -10%. So yeah, good luck.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on July 27, 2010, 01:08:29 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on July 27, 2010, 01:05:10 PMI think Kyogre has a recruit rate of -10%. So yeah, good luck.
I got all the others except Rayquaza and Articuno. I'm getting Articuno right now.
Also, I have a Golden mask which increases the recruit rate by 24%. Plus I'm lvl 100. So... how much is the recruit rate now?
EDIT:
You don't have to answer.
Remaining Pokemon:
Rayquaza: around 39%
Kyogre: around 39%
Articuno: around 69%
Recruited Articuno, Kyogre and Rayquaza are going to be a b!7$*# to catch.

EDIT:
Keep editing so I don't have to double post.
Recruited Kyogre.
All that's left is the Ozone living Pokemon Rayquaza.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 27, 2010, 05:40:54 PM
I'm still working through PMD EoS... my mind is struggling to like it, but it's already getting a little repetitive for me. I finished Chapter 2. -sarcastic woo freaking hoo-


OH, and BIG NEWS

Enigma Stone for HG/SS... so now you can get Latias/Latios depending on what game you got...

Also, Munna is the official english name for, well, Munna.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 27, 2010, 05:47:56 PM
Chapter two? My God, how hard is that game for you???
You know you can hold B to run in a dungeon?

That game has twenty chapters. x)

My favorite part in the game? (HIGHLIGHT FOR MINOR SPOILERS) Definitely Grovyle talking about the sunrise… it’s such a heartwarming scene. It makes me really wonder what we should be taking for granted…
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 27, 2010, 05:49:09 PM
I can still see it without highlighting...

... and you can RUN??? I guess i've been missing out, huh? But my time is devoted to HG right now
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 27, 2010, 05:51:21 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on July 27, 2010, 05:49:09 PMI can still see it without highlighting...

... and you can RUN??? I guess i've been missing out, huh? But my time is devoted to HG right now

That's weird, I have to highlight it. ???

Strange. And I'm not too concerned about beating my HeartGold, as I like SoulSilver better, and want that to be my main game. I got HeartGold so I didn't have to delete my SoulSilver, and so I could go through Johto any time I wanted...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 27, 2010, 05:54:02 PM
Well, I am transitioning all the power into HG for a main game. I actually want to try out going as Kotone with Chikorita or Totodile, cause i've been using Typhlosion excessively. It's probably going to be Totodile
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 27, 2010, 05:57:19 PM
Totodile is a really good choice. It has the best Attack stat of the three starters. Though admittedly it also has the worst Special Attack.

Chikorita is really balanced (which can be good or bad) - it has slightly above-average points for all stats.

Cyndaquil is for those reckless trainers who like all-out power (95% of Pokemon players) but has poor defense. However, its Speed is so high that you don't really need to worry about defense.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on July 27, 2010, 06:02:55 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on July 27, 2010, 05:57:19 PMCyndaquil is for those reckless trainers who like all-out power (95% of Pokemon players) but has poor defense. However, its Speed is so high that you don't really need to worry about defense.
That's why it's a top tier Pokemon.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 27, 2010, 06:03:38 PM
so you're calling me reckless??? I choose it cause it looks cool (plus i like the type of animal they're derived from... hedgehogs!)... and I like to be reckless sometimes!

If Pokémon have a really great stat, chances are that there is a not-so-great stat, too.

I'll probably go with Chikorita. I haven't used Bayleef in a long time! Then, I could just use either a Vulpix/Growlithe for my fire needs. I'll make a team and get back to you on that!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 27, 2010, 06:05:14 PM
Quote from: Oni-Link on July 27, 2010, 06:02:55 PMThat's why it's a top tier Pokemon.

To be blunt, it's also why I hate it. >.<

Quote from: drpamplemousse on July 27, 2010, 06:03:38 PMso you're calling me reckless??? I choose it cause it looks cool (plus i like the type of animal they're derived from... hedgehogs!)... and I like to be reckless sometimes!

If Pokémon have a really great stat, chances are that there is a not-so-great stat, too.

I'll probably go with Chikorita. I haven't used Bayleef in a long time! Then, I could just use either a Vulpix/Growlithe for my fire needs. I'll make a team and get back to you on that!

AAAH! Don't let me talk you into getting Chikorita! Totodile is better! And I meant reckless in a good way! Kind of! Didn't you see me pay Cyndaquil a compliment!? ('-_-)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 27, 2010, 06:10:05 PM
I know Totodile is a good Pokémon, but I want a challenge. Plus I want the "water type" in my team to have a good special attack power. I may choose Gyarados in this case (but a normal one that evolves from a magikarp).
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on July 27, 2010, 06:10:17 PM
Okay.
I beat the last boss.
Now all I have to do is catch the legendaries and wait for Manaphy to tell me about the Marine Resort.
What SUCKS is I have to get Rayquaza, who has a 39% total recruit rate.
It's going to be hard, but I'll try.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 27, 2010, 06:12:43 PM
Quote from: Oni-Link on July 27, 2010, 06:10:17 PMOkay.
I beat the last boss.
Now all I have to do is catch the legendaries and wait for Manaphy to tell me about the Marine Resort.
What SUCKS is I have to get Rayquaza, who has a 39% total recruit rate.
It's going to be hard, but I'll try.

Weren't you moved by the scene where Grovyle was talking about the sunset? Or was that just me???

I also loved the music at that point.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on July 27, 2010, 06:14:09 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on July 27, 2010, 06:12:43 PMWeren't you moved by the scene where Grovyle was talking about the sunset? Or was that just me???

I also loved the music at that point.
You mean Through the Sea of Time?
Yeah, but what made me cry was the first ending.
I never cry.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 27, 2010, 06:17:59 PM
Quote from: Oni-Link on July 27, 2010, 06:14:09 PMYou mean Through the Sea of Time?
Yeah, but what made me cry was the first ending.
I never cry.

Umm, if that's the one where Grovyle talks to your partner on Sharpedo Bluff, when you're still sleeping? When the sun is still coming up? :P

The ending made me cry as well, and although I appreciate things like music with no words, I also rarely cry... That ending was some pretty amazing scriptwriting, I'd say.

The part that was saddest was when the partner was remembering the time after Waterfall Cave when their stomachs started growling. In my opinion...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on July 27, 2010, 06:20:47 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on July 27, 2010, 06:17:59 PMUmm, if that's the one where Grovyle talks to your partner on Sharpedo Bluff, when you're still sleeping? When the sun is still coming up? :P

The ending made me cry as well, and although I appreciate things like music with no words, I also rarely cry... That ending was some pretty amazing scriptwriting, I'd say.

The part that was saddest was when the partner was remembering the time after Waterfall Cave when their stomachs started growling. In my opinion...
Was it sad because they were hungry?  :'(
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 27, 2010, 06:21:55 PM
No, of course not! xD I can't tell if that's sarcastic, but it was a sentimental moment!  :'(
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on July 27, 2010, 08:38:33 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on July 27, 2010, 06:21:55 PMNo, of course not! xD I can't tell if that's sarcastic, but it was a sentimental moment!  :'(
I was kidding.
Anyway, I got the Marine Resort and such, my Riolu is now Lucario, and my Shinx is no Luxray.
Now I'm trying to recruit the legendaries but they are SO HARD for some reason!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 27, 2010, 10:58:16 PM
how do Pokémon that evolve from friendliness evolve in PMD... cause I got a Riolu
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on July 27, 2010, 11:12:35 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on July 27, 2010, 10:58:16 PMhow do Pokémon that evolve from friendliness evolve in PMD... cause I got a Riolu
They don't.
If you want to evolve your Hero and Partner, you have to wait until the end of the game.
You also need a Sun Ribbon you can get via jobs.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 28, 2010, 12:30:01 AM
ok... then that makes LOTS of sense then! haha
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on July 28, 2010, 12:35:58 AM
Darkrai has only around...
27% Recruitment Rate, the lowest besides Keckleon.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 28, 2010, 12:40:49 AM
I've never liked Kecleon anyways... and that's a pretty low recruitment rate. I'm guessing the Kyogre you recruited was a little higher!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 28, 2010, 11:04:35 AM
Quote from: Oni-Link on July 27, 2010, 11:12:35 PMThey don't.

You can't evolve you or your partner... ever. *

Even when you can evolve other Pokemon.

And Pokemon that normally evolve with high friendship evolve when they have a lot of stars on their IQ.

No misinformation allowed!!! :D

*EDIT: You can evolve your hero - sorry!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 28, 2010, 11:26:54 AM
YES! Finally not my fault... haha

I'll take this information into account, then!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on July 28, 2010, 11:32:47 AM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on July 28, 2010, 11:04:35 AMYou can't evolve you or your partner... ever. *

Even when you can evolve other Pokemon.

And Pokemon that normally evolve with high friendship evolve when they have a lot of stars on their IQ.

No misinformation allowed!!! :D

*EDIT: You can evolve your hero - sorry!
And your partner. I evolved my Shinx into a Luxio then a Luxray.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 28, 2010, 11:34:53 AM
I meant your partner too.  ::)

Sorry about that. Sometimes I'm so conceited that I'm really not that great.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 28, 2010, 11:36:48 AM
Yay for hardasses and stubborn people! haha

Are any of you signing up for the new werewolf game??
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 28, 2010, 11:38:02 AM
What's a werewolf game? I wanna play...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 28, 2010, 11:42:38 AM
go under forum games and go to Werewolf game... read the rules... sign up if you want. It's ninja oriented
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 28, 2010, 11:49:12 AM
I signed up.  :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 28, 2010, 11:54:18 AM
Its gonna be pretty fun!

I finally figured out where you hear about swarm pokémon (facepalm blocker)

So, I'm off to catch Wingull today in Vermilion City (and why does everyone spell Vermilion with two Ls... just bad taste. Its like when pronouncing "sans", people say how its spelt and it just irks me soo much. It is pronounced "san")
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 28, 2010, 12:05:58 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on July 28, 2010, 11:54:18 AMIts gonna be pretty fun!

I finally figured out where you hear about swarm pokémon (facepalm blocker)

So, I'm off to catch Wingull today in Vermilion City (and why does everyone spell Vermilion with two Ls... just bad taste. Its like when pronouncing "sans", people say how its spelt and it just irks me soo much. It is pronounced "san")

"spelt"?  ;D Yeah, but I do know what you mean.

Anyway, yeah. I just happened to be listening to the radio when I found out, I think. I think I was doing Buena's Password.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 28, 2010, 12:07:24 PM
oh... sorry. spelled

I only do that when typing (IDK why)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 28, 2010, 12:08:23 PM
I once wrote "burnt" on an English test (I wrote that the Globe Theater was "burnt" down...)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on July 28, 2010, 12:45:22 PM
Yeah, but you can say both, right? Burnt and burned... or my English teacher was wrong? That would be epic. x)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 28, 2010, 01:02:45 PM
Both are accepted. It just depends on context and what dialect of English you're speaking.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 28, 2010, 01:09:27 PM
My teacher marked me down for it. :D

I still got an A in the class though.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on July 28, 2010, 01:21:58 PM
Pokemon: English Version?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 28, 2010, 01:24:08 PM
Sure...

Has anyone ever tried playing a Japanese Pokémon version. In the entire game, I only understand like 20 words!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 28, 2010, 01:42:46 PM
It's probably still playable because of the visuals, though. :)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 28, 2010, 05:05:03 PM
yep... but what about selecting something? with no visual aid?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on July 28, 2010, 05:08:20 PM
Guess.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 28, 2010, 05:10:53 PM
but if you choose wrong... then you dont get a dratini with extremespeed
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 28, 2010, 07:06:47 PM
Hahaha! True, true! Or you might select "GREEN STONE" instead of the "RED STONE" you were counting on while talking to Steven. :)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on July 28, 2010, 07:20:41 PM
or you might click yes when asked "can i has all yur pokemanz"
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 28, 2010, 07:25:02 PM
Yeah, that makes sense.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 28, 2010, 07:37:25 PM
well luckily i know blue, green and red in nihongo, so no prob
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on July 28, 2010, 08:08:39 PM
Recruited Darkrai.
The second hardest Pokemon to recruit in Mystery Dungeon.
My favorite quote by him:
"The darkness sleeps inside me... I can still feel it at times..."
EDIT:
Found a gif about Empoleon vs Salamance.
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffc09.deviantart.net%2Ffs37%2Ff%2F2008%2F253%2F9%2Ff%2F3BA_by_Bahful.gif&hash=9598d0b215db580ec4a84eb7d530f35a9034ae5f)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 29, 2010, 06:16:10 AM
^That's really cool.

So today at 4 o'clock I can get my schedule offline. :( I so hope I have classes with friends...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 29, 2010, 08:02:12 AM
I get mine on monday... they choose the classes for you for the first quarter. luckily for me, i dont have to take an english class!!!

Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on July 29, 2010, 11:09:59 AM
I get mine on august 19th if I'm not mistaken, and I'm starting school on August 23rd. At least during the first school week I'll be able to modify my schedule if I don't like it. And no more English classes, which means I'll finally be able to finish classes before 9 PM! Awsm!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on July 29, 2010, 11:25:27 AM
Wondering if anyone would like to team up and mutli-battle in the frontier.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 29, 2010, 12:25:50 PM
I could if I would. My Pokémon aren't just at the right levels yet.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on July 29, 2010, 12:48:03 PM
They auto-adjust the levels to 50.
Also, new Pokemon related icon.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 29, 2010, 01:18:39 PM
Cool avatar...Bidoof.  8)

drpamplemousse - as long as they're above Lv50 they bring your Pokemon down.:P

Hmm... should I try to find a new Slowpoke avatar? Or does plain old Ken Sugimori art suit me?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 29, 2010, 01:20:45 PM
Maybe laters... i has to work on some BIG stuff for the site!

And... its a cool icon (I just don't like Bidoof at all)

Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on July 29, 2010, 01:22:50 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on July 29, 2010, 01:18:39 PMHmm... should I try to find a new Slowpoke avatar? Or does plain old Ken Sugimori art suit me?
I dunno, get like a combination of Slowpoke and another character from other games.
Examples:
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffc01.deviantart.net%2Ffs29%2Ff%2F2008%2F170%2Fe%2Ff%2FSo_Zetta_Slowpoke_by_Noisebot.jpg&hash=78c8f23eddafe2f4e949965afb2e43024da48d49)
So Zetta Slowpoke. (Combination of the Grim Heaper from The World Ends With You and Slowpoke)
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn1.knowyourmeme.com%2Fi%2F4770%2Foriginal%2Fslowpoke.jpg%3F1246835256&hash=2d03d01b7ae88ddf95a7d30f61f708f84be4b851)
Deapool+Slowpoke

There's a whole bunch to choose from. (http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/slowpoke)

Quote from: drpamplemousse on July 29, 2010, 01:20:45 PMMaybe laters... i has to work on some BIG stuff for the site!

And... its a cool icon (I just don't like Bidoof at all)


I think Bidoof's hilarious.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 29, 2010, 01:26:16 PM
looks... yes, for use in the game (especially facing Gardenia), terrible.

...and those are some creepy looking slowpoke, but I likes the first one!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 29, 2010, 01:29:04 PM
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmmii.info%2F_ign%2F50118.gif&hash=922015185fa02fae6492ae05789c3631499e9da4)

^Or that?

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn2.knowyourmeme.com%2Fi%2F26210%2Foriginal%2FSlowpoke_2BPsyduck.png%3F1257918416&hash=4b3abd91174520ef70f01e21745fae738b937179)

^Or that?

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ft1.gstatic.com%2Fimages%3Fq%3Dtbn%3A16dFvP0RwXSvfM%3A&hash=d1b732252d6e7c0cbe23e73caa2738114f9a07e1)

^Or that?

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F4playerpodcast.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2010%2F05%2Fslowpoke-sonic.jpg&hash=32fa5c7f3ae1da796858b4a67c512c9a17f9c39d)

^Or that?

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fth06.deviantart.net%2Ffs50%2F150%2Ff%2F2009%2F298%2Fa%2Ff%2FSlowpoke_by_Ani_Monster.jpg&hash=f059d4551f86030e66df186b638ef0127ff77344)

^I like that one the best. :) I think that last one's gonna become my new avatar.

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Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 29, 2010, 01:30:02 PM
i like the last one... but the milotic/slowpoke is absolutely hilarious!! definitely pick that one in the future!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 29, 2010, 01:32:14 PM
Changed my avatar. :)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 29, 2010, 01:35:16 PM
you know I saw a picture somewhere that showed Bowser= Venusaur + Charizard + Blastoise... that was EPIC
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on July 29, 2010, 02:00:50 PM
Quote from: Shadoninja on July 29, 2010, 01:50:43 PMyou dun bidoof'd
oh teh noes
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 29, 2010, 02:05:35 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on July 29, 2010, 01:35:16 PMyou know I saw a picture somewhere that showed Bowser= Venusaur + Charizard + Blastoise... that was EPIC

If you find it, post it here. :)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 29, 2010, 02:35:00 PM
found it... you guys really dont know how to google, how sad?

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.funnyjunk.com%2Fpictures%2Fbowser01.jpg&hash=381da6fc3c461e005370af804c99f87dd8986287)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on July 29, 2010, 02:35:59 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on July 29, 2010, 02:35:00 PMfound it... you guys really dont know how to google, how sad?

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.funnyjunk.com%2Fpictures%2Fbowser01.jpg&hash=381da6fc3c461e005370af804c99f87dd8986287)
Not there.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 29, 2010, 02:37:38 PM
what do you mean, not there? I can see it perfectly. And your reply has a picture in it too. Maybe funnyjunk.com is blocked for you
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 29, 2010, 02:57:35 PM
Probably, I'll try it because I can't see the pic either.

EDIT: No, you just posted it wrong or something, because funnyjunk isn't blocked... did you post the picture or the link to the picture?

You should have pushed insert image, then posted the image location. You may have already done that though, I don't know. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 29, 2010, 03:10:33 PM
I did the (IMG) (/IMG) thing... but with the [ ] (I just didnt want to activate it on this post)

I'll try another site.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 29, 2010, 03:14:14 PM
Yeah, that's what I was talking about. xP
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 29, 2010, 03:14:57 PM
This one should work!!

I just took a screen shot of the post... so vous can see!

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi756.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fxx209%2Fnkontrimas%2FScreenshots%2Fscrn102.jpg&hash=7008d2e68f97b6a87728834cab6a005a1686b5b3)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on July 29, 2010, 03:28:32 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on July 29, 2010, 03:14:57 PMThis one should work!!

I just took a screen shot of the post... so vous can see!

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi756.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fxx209%2Fnkontrimas%2FScreenshots%2Fscrn102.jpg&hash=7008d2e68f97b6a87728834cab6a005a1686b5b3)
Interesting.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 29, 2010, 03:45:21 PM
That's weird, my screen looked exactly like that, only with no picture.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 29, 2010, 07:46:15 PM
huh... strange. I still cant access PLDH... i gotta do it from my phone.

so funny pic?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on July 29, 2010, 07:52:59 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on July 29, 2010, 07:46:15 PMhuh... strange. I still cant access PLDH... i gotta do it from my phone.
Wow, I've never heard of PLDH.
Looks interesting.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 29, 2010, 08:00:04 PM
its a pokémon only forum
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on July 29, 2010, 08:05:13 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on July 29, 2010, 08:00:04 PMits a pokémon only forum
I think I knew that when I checked it out.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 29, 2010, 08:12:18 PM
You're lucky it works for you... with me, nothing
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 30, 2010, 10:17:45 AM
I'm still not allowed to access it. :)

Hahaha. I restarted my HeartGold (drpamplemousse reached for his gun) because I wanted to relive my original Silver experience - I'm going to train only Chikorita. Should take a while. :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 30, 2010, 10:21:45 AM
Yep... but if you only train Chikorita, you're gonna get one strong grass type pretty quick! I may try that out and have a single Pokémon if and when I restart Platinum or SoulSilver
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 30, 2010, 10:23:24 AM
It makes the game much easier, but also far harder. For example, your Pokemon is ridiculously high-leveled normally... but in the Battle Frontier, it's just level 50 like everyone else and you have no backup. :)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on July 30, 2010, 10:32:01 AM
A friend of mine used to train only his starter... but doesn't that make the game boring? You've no diversity in your team, stuck with one type... I know I wouldn't like it.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 30, 2010, 10:33:41 AM
Yeah, the only good thing about it is that it takes away the boring training sessions when you catch a weak Pokemon you plan on training... of course, that is solved easily enough using the day care.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 30, 2010, 10:38:01 AM
true... but you won't get EVs from the daycare
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on July 30, 2010, 10:41:53 AM
Yeah, but throughout the game you get random EVs anyway. So I think it's better to try and EV train them the way you want when you capture them. I don't do that though since my 'mons either have crappy IVs or I don't have the berries to remove the non desired IVs.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 30, 2010, 10:43:18 AM
I has lots... I transported them in from Diamond and boom! I went crazy with the berry pots
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 30, 2010, 10:46:17 AM
Umm. I'm not going to make any kind of perverted joke about that. But I probably could.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on July 30, 2010, 10:46:41 AM
Who else thinks berry pots are better than actually planting berries?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 30, 2010, 10:47:13 AM
I do!

I hated going to the plots of land to water them... with these, I can just watch them whenever!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on July 30, 2010, 10:47:25 AM
Now I have a lot too, because of my action replay. Really useful when you train your freshly bred Pokemon. :P
And I always forget where I plant my berries, so in the end I never get any. So berry pots ftw.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 30, 2010, 10:48:03 AM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on July 30, 2010, 10:47:13 AMI do!

I hated going to the plots of land to water them... with these, I can just watch them whenever!

So irritating. And the Berry Master's Poketch App doesn't help. T.T
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on July 30, 2010, 10:48:17 AM
Quote from: Roz~ on July 30, 2010, 10:47:25 AMNow I have a lot too, because of my action replay. Really useful when you train your freshly bred Pokemon. :P
:|
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on July 30, 2010, 10:49:22 AM
I don't hack, I just use it for those kind of things, i.e getting items for breeding. You'd be surprised by how many people do that.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 30, 2010, 10:50:21 AM
That is hacking... you can't contradict yourself like that. And no, I wouldn't be surprised.  :-\
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 30, 2010, 10:50:51 AM
you know, what's really funny. I got my ARDS while I was in canada. I looked everywhere and finally found one at Zellers (even the local wal mart didnt have it... haha)

Now, I just use it to get TMs and Berries when I start a new game. I want to train my Pokémon right, so that's what I do that (I dont do the medicine or general items cheats... that's just not right)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 30, 2010, 10:53:07 AM
I don't get anything... though I can see the benefits, it's not like I'm just anti-cheating.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on July 30, 2010, 10:53:29 AM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on July 30, 2010, 10:50:21 AMThat is hacking... you can't contradict yourself like that. And no, I wouldn't be surprised.  :-\

Items are not considered hacked in Pokemon games, just so you know. And there is a huge difference between hacking the game like crazy, or doing what Drpamplemousse and I do.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 30, 2010, 10:54:42 AM
Eh, I'm going by my personal opinion. In order to get the items, your game must be tampered with. Is it seriously bad stuff? No. But your game has been messed with.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 30, 2010, 10:55:57 AM
It's basically giving you the best and all of your training options. This allows you to make you Pokémon see its true potential!

It isnt bad stuff, Slow. It's the most basic of fixing up the game. Item mods can be easily deleted. Just delete the items and you're back to normal
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on July 30, 2010, 10:56:23 AM
Okay okay.
I only use them on non-competitive games. Or games that I don't really have a challenge.
Otherwise, I like the challenge and I don't want to be unfair.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 30, 2010, 10:57:53 AM
I usually play it first without anything, then I replay it and add all the "options" i'd like!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 30, 2010, 10:58:21 AM
Tell me when I said it was bad???

Do I sound like I'm really mad or something? You and Roz are both acting like it... Sorry if I upset you. :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on July 30, 2010, 10:59:16 AM
Don't worry, I see your point. But I only do it after I finish my game, meaning I've done pretty much everything I can before I get to breeding. I don't like messing with my game when I know I haven't finished the story yet. And at least it's not as messed up as if I were hacking Pokemon. :P

And sorry if I sounded rude, that wasn't my intention at all. :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 30, 2010, 11:01:15 AM
You didn't, not at all!

Now.... EVERYBODY!

GROUP HUG!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 30, 2010, 11:02:30 AM
I didn't mean to bring tension (or rudeness), either...

Basically using item mods justs adds a few lines of code that are extraneous for the game to run correctly. Pokémon mods change the game's code slightly, and may affect the game some way some how!

I always play out a story first, then use some "extras" at the end or when I restart and know the story well (except for Spyro, cause its just way too easy)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 30, 2010, 11:04:18 AM
We should all get a cookie. o_o
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 30, 2010, 11:04:53 AM
Have a snickerdoodle!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on July 30, 2010, 11:06:18 AM
I only use AR codes in Pokemon, because it's the only game I feel that's worth it. Having the fast hatch code is great when you need to breed a Pokemon with a certain nature/ability. Having to do over 3000 steps only to see you messed up... that must be something. :P

And I want caek pls.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 30, 2010, 11:07:45 AM
Cake? Okay, let's see the flavors...

we have vanilla, chocolate, and drpamplemousse-flavored cake. Anyone want some? I'll stick with vanilla myself.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 30, 2010, 11:09:27 AM
you want a grapefruit flavored cake?? Roz knows the joke (and should know the translation of my name in english)

I sometimes use AR to rebattle trainers... for the experience.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 30, 2010, 11:11:00 AM
There's also a Super EXP Gain cheat. So tempting, huh?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on July 30, 2010, 11:13:05 AM
I tried it once without saving, just to see how it worked. It's not that great so I'll stick with rare candies.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 30, 2010, 11:13:52 AM
And the truth comes out! :D

Just kidding.

I like to write in notebooks.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on July 30, 2010, 11:14:57 AM
Quote from: Roz~ on July 30, 2010, 11:13:05 AMI tried it once without saving, just to see how it worked. It's not that great so I'll stick with rare candies.
I always thought Rare Candies don't give you as much EV's...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 30, 2010, 11:16:30 AM
I used to write in notebooks... but then I had to move it to computer and it was pretty time consuming!

I'll use a lucky egg as fast exp gain... I used to be heavily reliant on Rare Candies... but I'm off the stuff. I used a total of 10 in HG... YAY!

... Then I discovered EVs. Rare Candies just level up the Pokémon and it won't gain EVs
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 30, 2010, 11:17:30 AM
Yeah...
and congratulations for getting over your Rare Candy addiction...


I find it weird that you can give your Pokemon drugs to make it stronger. o_O
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on July 30, 2010, 11:18:37 AM
Quote from: Oni-Link on July 30, 2010, 11:14:57 AMI always thought Rare Candies don't give you as much EV's...

They don't give any. I only used them on the competitive Pokemon I make, just for speed sake. I EV train them, and level them up with rare candies a little.
And yeah, it's as if we were doping our 'mons with calcium, zinc, rare candies... :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 30, 2010, 11:19:05 AM
Rare Candies are Roids for Pokémon
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 30, 2010, 11:19:25 AM
But at least they know when they're high enough - "It won't have any effect"
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 30, 2010, 11:29:51 AM
... oh, drug irony!

Everything really works like drugs in that sense... Protein, Carbos, Zinc... Oni brought up a great point there
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 30, 2010, 11:32:06 AM
What point did he bring up?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on July 30, 2010, 11:34:11 AM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on July 30, 2010, 11:32:06 AMWhat point did he bring up?
I dunno myself.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 30, 2010, 11:34:54 AM
Whoops, I meant Roz

They don't give any. I only used them on the competitive Pokemon I make, just for speed sake. I EV train them, and level them up with rare candies a little.
And yeah, it's as if we were doping our 'mons with calcium, zinc, rare candies...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 30, 2010, 12:17:05 PM
Hahaha. I was talking about it before her... so I am the real deserving one! lol jk
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on July 30, 2010, 12:21:42 PM
Pokemon:
SMOKE WEED EVERYDAY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7uWp27m8dg#t=159)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 30, 2010, 12:22:59 PM
hahaha... i just have to add this pic!

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi756.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fxx209%2Fnkontrimas%2F8061cb5a.jpg&hash=d271cb31a3442a6fd38730553bdeb76972d19ec0)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on July 30, 2010, 01:32:33 PM
Hahaha, that is epic.  :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Dude on July 30, 2010, 01:45:46 PM
I just found the best pokemon related application ever.

No, you can't have it.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on July 30, 2010, 01:47:18 PM
Quote from: Dude on July 30, 2010, 01:45:46 PMI just found the best pokemon related application ever.

No, you can't have it.
TROLLIN'
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Dude on July 30, 2010, 02:14:17 PM
[16:49:10] * Dude just got Arceus
[16:51:22] <@MasterPenguin> What is it?
[16:51:31] <Dude> Well
[16:51:55] <Dude> Open it, go to options and check 'override reservations'. Search for something and double click it. Turn on DS, set your wifi's primary DNS to (sekrit). Go on the GTS, profit. If you get something that's poisoned, capsuled, or something weird like that, just put it in the daycare center and take it out.
[16:52:16] <Dude> In other words, it steals pokemon from the gts
[17:05:45] <@MasterPenguin> Whats the gts? :p
[17:06:35] <Dude> Global trade thingy
[17:06:36] <shadoninja> poacher!
[17:06:42] <Dude> Ufufufufu
[17:07:00] <Dude> You can create your own pokemon too
[17:08:14] <shadoninja> meh
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on July 30, 2010, 02:18:20 PM
Quote from: Dude on July 30, 2010, 02:14:17 PM[16:49:10] * Dude just got Arceus
[16:51:22] <@MasterPenguin> What is it?
[16:51:31] <Dude> Well
[16:51:55] <Dude> Open it, go to options and check 'override reservations'. Search for something and double click it. Turn on DS, set your wifi's primary DNS to (sekrit). Go on the GTS, profit. If you get something that's poisoned, capsuled, or something weird like that, just put it in the daycare center and take it out.
[16:52:16] <Dude> In other words, it steals pokemon from the gts
[17:05:45] <@MasterPenguin> Whats the gts? :p
[17:06:35] <Dude> Global trade thingy
[17:06:36] <shadoninja> poacher!
[17:06:42] <Dude> Ufufufufu
[17:07:00] <Dude> You can create your own pokemon too
[17:08:14] <shadoninja> meh
Well that's not very nice, is it? Some people expect to get the Pokemon they put up in the GTS for another Pokemon with the same worth, not nothing. :\
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 30, 2010, 02:20:11 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on July 30, 2010, 01:32:33 PMHahaha, that is epic.  :D

Yes.. it is.

I'm able to play emerald on my cell phone! Yay for Evo and Android!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on July 30, 2010, 03:36:55 PM
Quote from: Oni-Link on July 30, 2010, 02:18:20 PMWell that's not very nice, is it? Some people expect to get the Pokemon they put up in the GTS for another Pokemon with the same worth, not nothing. :\
Actually people put up Pokemon like a chimchar or a dratini and they want to trade it for Darkrai, Mewtwo, Mew, Shaymin... you get the point. But yeah, I agree that stealing 'mons over the GTS sucks.

Edit : I think I finally understand how to RNG. Yeehaw! But the thing is, I don't know what 'mon I should breed. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 30, 2010, 05:11:23 PM
Since it was on the subject yesterday... breed Girafrarig!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 30, 2010, 07:17:38 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on July 30, 2010, 03:36:55 PMActually people put up Pokemon like a chimchar or a dratini and they want to trade it for Darkrai, Mewtwo, Mew, Shaymin... you get the point. But yeah, I agree that stealing 'mons over the GTS sucks.

Edit : I think I finally understand how to RNG. Yeehaw! But the thing is, I don't know what 'mon I should breed. Any suggestions?

Slowpoke, of course!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on July 30, 2010, 07:20:43 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on July 30, 2010, 03:36:55 PMActually people put up Pokemon like a chimchar or a dratini and they want to trade it for Darkrai, Mewtwo, Mew, Shaymin... you get the point. But yeah, I agree that stealing 'mons over the GTS sucks.

Edit : I think I finally understand how to RNG. Yeehaw! But the thing is, I don't know what 'mon I should breed. Any suggestions?
How about Trapnich? (for Flygon)
EDIT (since I don't want to double post):
Also, I replaced some of my Pokemon.
Salamence (Since he's uber) with Dusknoir and Froslass with Flygon.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on July 30, 2010, 09:03:55 PM
Those are great suggestions, thanks! I'd like to breed Trapinch, but I don't have one in my HG and I can' transfer it from Plat either.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on July 30, 2010, 09:07:58 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on July 30, 2010, 09:03:55 PMThose are great suggestions, thanks! I'd like to breed Trapinch, but I don't have one in my HG and I can' transfer it from Plat either.


             SAFARI ZONE
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on July 30, 2010, 09:23:46 PM
I don't want to waste time there. When my friend comes back from vacations I'll borrow his DS, but now I'll just breed other 'mons.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 31, 2010, 03:58:27 AM
Breed Slowpoke and name it after me! :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on July 31, 2010, 06:26:37 AM
I could, and I could give you a copy too! :)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 31, 2010, 07:08:25 AM
I would take it, if you're willing to wait until I get Wi-Fi with WEP. (or just go into McDonald's or something ;D).
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 31, 2010, 09:35:52 AM
Is Girafarig still on the table for breeding... cause it would be pretty cool!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on July 31, 2010, 10:20:51 AM
No, I bred 2 Girafarig 'cause I couldn't decide what ability I should pick  :D
Shiny Girafarig : 31/2/30/30/30/30
Not flawless, because I wanted it to have HP Fighting 70.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 31, 2010, 12:39:15 PM
hmm... maybe you could breed a Growlithe... make a super awesome Arcanine, or a pretty badass Swablu
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 31, 2010, 01:15:11 PM
I like Swablu. :) But it's mostly good in terms of Defense. Although, I guess its attack isn't that bad.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on July 31, 2010, 02:01:13 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on July 31, 2010, 12:39:15 PMhmm... maybe you could breed a Growlithe... make a super awesome Arcanine, or a pretty badass Swablu

Haha, I'm currently breeding a Growlithe! I'd need a GBA game to be able to breed for the IV spread I want, but I don't have any. It'll have to wait.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 31, 2010, 05:35:07 PM
sounds pretty suckish... but if that happens... I wanna copy of said Growlithe!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on July 31, 2010, 06:04:54 PM
^Just finished breeding Growlithe.
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Farchives.bulbagarden.net%2Fmedia%2Fupload%2Fa%2Fa5%2FSpr_4h_058_s.png&hash=8ba5f8339f95f7d2fc2c7a5f678308d2ef7fe315)
Shiny male Growlithe
Adamant Nature
Ability : Intimidate
30/31/31/31/30/31
HP Grass 70
Bite/Roar/Morning Sun/Flare Blitz
Hatched location : Cinnabar Island
Available UT lvl 1.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 31, 2010, 06:07:23 PM
...Morning Sun...?

Delete Roar for Sunny Day...

No, that would be more than necessary non-damage moves. And Aracanine's attack stat has got to be taken advantage of...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on July 31, 2010, 06:09:55 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on July 31, 2010, 06:04:54 PM^Just finished breeding Growlithe.
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Farchives.bulbagarden.net%2Fmedia%2Fupload%2Fa%2Fa5%2FSpr_4h_058_s.png&hash=8ba5f8339f95f7d2fc2c7a5f678308d2ef7fe315)
Shiny male Growlithe
Adamant Nature
Ability : Intimidate
30/31/31/31/30/31
HP Grass 70
Bite/Roar/Morning Sun/Flare Blitz
Hatched location : Cinnabar Island
Available UT lvl 1.
Cinnabar Island?
That's an interesting hatching place.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 31, 2010, 06:10:55 PM
True...

Of course, I used to hatch all my Eggs in Ruby in the Safari Zone... don't ask me why.

I like to hatch them in Azalea Town in SS.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on July 31, 2010, 06:13:11 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on July 31, 2010, 06:10:55 PMTrue...

Of course, I used to hatch all my Eggs in Ruby in the Safari Zone... don't ask me why.

I like to hatch them in Azalea Town in SS.
I like to hatch them on Route 34 (The one with the Daycare man) to Goldenrod City
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 31, 2010, 06:34:13 PM
Eh, that's too typical for me.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on July 31, 2010, 06:34:47 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on July 31, 2010, 06:07:23 PM...Morning Sun...?

Delete Roar for Sunny Day...

No, that would be more than necessary non-damage moves. And Aracanine's attack stat has got to be taken advantage of...
Morning Sun's a healing move, it's Moonlight's counterpart.
Roar can be a really useful move actually. And those moves are not definitive, it's just the moves it had when it hatched. :P

Quote from: Oni-Link on July 31, 2010, 06:09:55 PMCinnabar Island?
That's an interesting hatching place.

That's where we found Growlithe/Arcanine back in RBY so I thought it'd be a nice hatching place. I prefer having various hatching places than just Goldenrod/Route 34.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 31, 2010, 06:38:24 PM
EXACTLY!

And I said Sunny Day because it increases the amount of health restored my Morning Sun. Please don't take me for a Pokemon ignoramus, I know pretty much everything about it... But I still can't remember what all the Diamond and Pearl abilities do... side effect of playing the GBA games for too long.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on July 31, 2010, 06:43:46 PM
I just noticed shiny Absol has bright green eyes...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on July 31, 2010, 06:46:19 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on July 31, 2010, 06:38:24 PMEXACTLY!

And I said Sunny Day because it increases the amount of health restored my Morning Sun. Please don't take me for a Pokemon ignoramus, I know pretty much everything about it... But I still can't remember what all the Diamond and Pearl abilities do... side effect of playing the GBA games for too long.

Yeah, I thought that was the reason why you mentioned SD, I just wasn't sure because of all the question marks. :P

Quote from: Oni-Link on July 31, 2010, 06:43:46 PMI just noticed shiny Absol has bright green eyes...

Shiny Absol is awsm. I need to breed one.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 31, 2010, 06:50:15 PM
That growlithe looks awesome!!! I want!

I usually find a large stretch of land, I do it... right now its to the west of mahogany town to ice cave
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on July 31, 2010, 07:15:42 PM
Anyone remember that old game, "Pokemon Channel", where you could get Jirachi in the European and Australian versions? And when you get him, it fixes the berry glitch in Ruby & Sapphire?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on July 31, 2010, 07:22:15 PM
Quote from: Oni-Link on July 31, 2010, 07:15:42 PMAnyone remember that old game, "Pokemon Channel", where you could get Jirachi in the European and Australian versions? And when you get him, it fixes the berry glitch in Ruby & Sapphire?

Yeah, I do. I had one in my Platinum game, but I traded it.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on July 31, 2010, 09:33:44 PM
I've played it once at a friends house... not really my thing. But I did have Hey You Pikachu, then I sold it
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 01, 2010, 07:49:39 AM
I have some old Pokemon games that were not really part of the series such as Pokemon Snap...

Anyway. You can also fix the berry glitch by turning on your Emerald version, and on the title screen, press down-select-B, and you can attach a link cable to a GameBoy Advance with a Ruby version in it... as soon as you turn it on, press Start and Select... it will update the berry program. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 01, 2010, 07:58:10 AM
Those games had too many glitches imho.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 01, 2010, 08:07:29 AM
I never found out about them till much later. I still like those games though. SoulSilver is now my favorite Pokemon game, however.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on August 01, 2010, 08:34:19 AM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 01, 2010, 07:49:39 AMI have some old Pokemon games that were not really part of the series such as Pokemon Snap...

Some evenings, just before I fall asleep, I use to try to come up with reasons why Nintendo hasn't remade Pokémon Snap yet. Each time, I fail to find a single one.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 01, 2010, 08:47:28 AM
Hmm... Pokemon Snap was a good game...

They could easily release a "Snap 2" featuring the later generations... but even the original would be a good game for the DS.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 01, 2010, 09:30:56 AM
They may make a revamped version for the 3DS, who knows?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 01, 2010, 09:31:58 AM
Pokemon Snap was fun, but kinda short. They should redo it while including other regions.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 01, 2010, 09:37:00 AM
People used to talk crap about Dunsparce.
Well they'll be awed when it's #666 in the Pokedex and is a 7-headed evil dragon that spews black flames.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 01, 2010, 09:38:39 AM
What the heck are you talking about, Oni?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 01, 2010, 09:39:24 AM
That would be freaking hilarious! But it would be a 6-headed dragon
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 01, 2010, 09:49:21 AM
Yah, I guess so.

Me and my brother used to have a few packs of Pokemon cards, and the Dunsparce one only had 30 HP. We hated it so much. :)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 01, 2010, 09:50:47 AM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 01, 2010, 09:49:21 AMYah, I guess so.

Me and my brother used to have a few packs of Pokemon cards, and the Dunsparce one only had 30 HP. We hated it so much. :)
Yeah well he'll SHOW YOU
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 01, 2010, 09:51:50 AM
I just found all my OLD SCHOOL Pokémon cards after cleaning out my closet yesterday. ... oh the memories with my holo Charizard beating everyone... haha
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 01, 2010, 09:52:55 AM
Quote from: Oni-Link on August 01, 2010, 09:50:47 AMYeah well he'll SHOW YOU

Whoa, calm down. I like Dunsparce now. I see he's not ridiculously weak.

Speaking of which, I HATED Serebii's "Pokemon of the Week" column today. Delcatty is not the worst Pokemon in the game. Seriously, if you're going to call it useless, chose a different Pokemon!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 01, 2010, 09:58:00 AM
Delcatty can learn assist!! I always wanted to try and raise a decent Skitty/Delcatty, but... never happened

I wanted to try out using a Glameow, but I couldn't get one in Diamond (and idk if theyre in platinum)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 01, 2010, 09:59:36 AM
(They aren't)

I like Stunky - Dark/Poison is a pretty beastly combination. As is Bronzong - two weaknesses, Fire and Ground, and it can either be resistant to Ground moves, or take normal damage from Fire ones. :)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 01, 2010, 10:03:17 AM
Im guessing Skunktank is pretty powerful, then?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 01, 2010, 10:04:52 AM
Yep. Really good breeding choice. Stunky learns Toxic at level 20, so you don't have to waste a TM. And Skuntank learns Flamethrower immediately after evolving. It's almost enough to make you forget that it's cry sounds like farting. :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 01, 2010, 10:05:53 AM
... like Slowpoke, just a bit? haha

I dont waste toxic TMs... I usually sell them for better ones!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 01, 2010, 10:18:06 AM
 >:(  >:(  >:(  >:(  >:(  >:(  >:(  >:(  >:(  >:(  >:(  >:(  >:(  >:(  >:(  >:(



GRRR! Toxic IS a good one...

especially used in the right situation!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 01, 2010, 10:20:56 AM
I hate poisoning when I'm trying to catch Pokémon... usually sleep or paralyzed helps me out!

I like to have... attacks, especially onces with 100% accuracy
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 01, 2010, 10:21:46 AM
Umm, Toxic is an attack, but I really don't feel like arguing my point, so just forget it.

And Skuntank's cry sounds like farting.. not like Slowpoke's.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 01, 2010, 10:24:41 AM
Still... I should have added the fact that I want a move that could inflict damage according to its type weaknesses... wasting a perfectly good slot with toxic, when earthquake could be there is just something I can't afford... its my battling style! You prefer the slow and drawn out way, I just want to get on with it!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 01, 2010, 10:46:44 AM
I mean, I don't always prefer the slow, drawn-out way... that's just foolish. But with most people, it's just attacking recklessly and mindlessly. The way I see it, Toxic is a useful move against Pokemon like Shuckle, and usually the other three spots are filled with "good" moves (i.e., Skuntank - Toxic, Flamethrower, Sludge Bomb, and Dark Pulse).

Although, in that case Toxic could easily be filled with Calm Mind...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 01, 2010, 11:06:46 AM
now I sometimes use Calm Mind with Alakazam... but with Skuntank, I'd do Night Slash, Sludge Bomb, Poison Jab and Dark Pulse... Skuntank's Attack is higher than its special attack. Flamethrower would be great to have, but it isn't a STAB move
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 01, 2010, 11:12:10 AM
Yeah, I know. :3

It can be good for facing those pesky Grass- and Poison-types who aren't weak to Poison though. :P

Actually, that moveset isn't that great - only two types... keep Poison Jab and Night Slash. Then teach it Slash (learns it naturally) and I would teach it Flamethrower (again, my business...). If you gave it a Scope Lens, Slash and Night Slash become more likely for Critical Hits. If you delete Flamethrower for its base move Focus Energy, you can add to that chance. But you wouldn't do that. :)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 01, 2010, 11:38:58 AM
nope, no focus energy, but a scope lens would be something i'd use. I may get rid of dark pulse and replace it with flamethrower
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 01, 2010, 11:39:45 AM
Yeah, if you're going to use Dark Pulse, might as well have  a (better) special move of a different type... :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 01, 2010, 11:41:04 AM
see... but with Dark Pulse, its a STAB attack... so it may actually be a bit stronger than flamethrower (on a pokemon where dark and fire types affect it normally)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 01, 2010, 11:41:53 AM
I know, but with Night Slash...

AAUGH! It's too confusing! Who wants a cookie?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 01, 2010, 11:44:49 AM
Not me! Well, maybe. I haven't eaten anything today
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 01, 2010, 11:47:52 AM
That's unfortunate. :(

So.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 01, 2010, 12:04:21 PM
yeah. im leaving now! ill be on my phone!

Probably going to be playing HG!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 01, 2010, 03:10:54 PM
I save around 70 Gummi's. (Items that increase your stats and IQ)
It's completely taking up my storage, which is about 200. It gets bigger as the game goes on, though.
It can get up to 1000 items max once you get to a certain Rank.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 01, 2010, 03:15:51 PM
I like the original games - which you should play if you liked Explorers of Sky - because there was no storage limit.

The original games are PMD: Blue Rescue Team (DS) and Red Rescue Team (GBA).

You need to play them because in some ways they're better than the newer ones.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 01, 2010, 03:17:47 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 01, 2010, 03:15:51 PMI like the original games - which you should play if you liked Explorers of Sky - because there was no storage limit.

The original games are PMD: Blue Rescue Team (DS) and Red Rescue Team (GBA).

You need to play them because in some ways they're better than the newer ones.
I'll try Red Rescue team on an emulator, how about that?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 01, 2010, 03:21:40 PM
Cool! The newer ones obviously have more in-depth mechanics and the like, and a longer story, but this game has a more basic story, with a really long post-ending.

And you can't be Psyduck in the newer ones. :3
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 01, 2010, 03:23:55 PM
WHY ISN'T PSYDUCK PSYCHIC
Also, I just figured out Eusine had his own theme D:
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 01, 2010, 03:25:09 PM
Hahaha, he doesn't seem important enough to have his own theme. :)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 01, 2010, 04:59:37 PM
I'm thinking of starting up an all Snorlax team... since it can learn a whole lot of stuff! Any comments?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 01, 2010, 05:00:41 PM
Snorlax is pretty slow. You'd get pwnt by any fighting type who are faster than you.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 01, 2010, 05:00:50 PM
Of course, many Normal-types can learn moves like Ice Beam, Thunderbolt, Water Pulse, sometimes even Flamethrower. ;P

I like Lickitung because it can also learn Surf. :) So can Snorlax, though.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 01, 2010, 05:06:42 PM
Snorlax can learn rock climb and strength and get STAB points cause they're normal... I think her can learn waterfall, too
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 01, 2010, 05:10:11 PM
You can think how Snorlax learns surf a bit...
You know how there's a huge splash when someone as big as Snorlax cannonballs into a pool?
Yeah.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 01, 2010, 05:10:43 PM
I like Lickitung because - you'd never guess this - I like underdog Pokemon. Oh, right, you would guess that.

With my profile pic and username modeled after Slowpoke, anyone can see I don't like the average favorite...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 01, 2010, 05:12:21 PM
^You're not the only one. I don't really know anyone who likes 'mons like Skorupi, Sandslash, Girafarig, etc. Yet I do.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 01, 2010, 05:15:14 PM
I like Girafarig and Stantler and Sandshrew and Lanturn
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 01, 2010, 05:21:39 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 01, 2010, 05:15:14 PMI like Girafarig and Stantler and Sandshrew and Lanturn

I like Hypno and Jynx. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 01, 2010, 05:23:55 PM
Oh, yeah... Jynx is pretty awesome and magan and electabuzz too
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 01, 2010, 05:27:59 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 01, 2010, 05:23:55 PMOh, yeah... Jynx is pretty awesome and magan and electabuzz too

I'm assuming by magan you meant magmar?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 01, 2010, 05:28:28 PM
Jynx can be a real powerhouse when bred/trained properly.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 01, 2010, 05:29:15 PM
Smoochum levels up like crazy and learns powder snow early
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 01, 2010, 05:33:36 PM
Yeah, easy to train...

But the problem is, as of Gen IV, Jynx learns zero Psychic-type moves. You need to either use a TM for a decent Psychic STAB move, or evolve Smoochum later than Lv30.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 01, 2010, 07:16:29 PM
Good to know... but I has lots of TMs, so I is pretty good there!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 02, 2010, 04:47:27 AM
Jynx only needs Psychic anyway.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 02, 2010, 06:42:01 AM
But me thinks Jynx can learn shadow ball, too
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 02, 2010, 07:30:35 AM
Blah, that could be good as well... Psychic, Ice Beam, are good (only by TM can Jynx learn them, however). You could then fill the remaining spots with - (note I'm not using physical moves as Jynx's Sp. Atk is really good)

Attack moves:
Wring Out - learns naturally and can be a good move, to some extent
Shadow Ball - move against other Psychic-types
Energy Ball - strong special attack that offers some move type diversity
Focus Blast - same as Energy Ball, but low accuracy
Water Pulse - move for the Fire-types who will kill you
Dream Eater - an alternative for Psychic
Hyper Beam - strong special move, but with a catch

Or you could use some...
Status moves:
Calm Mind - good for Jynx, because most likely it will know only special moves.
Lovely Kiss - a sleeping move that only Jynx learns - 75% accuracy, can irritate opponents
Fake Tears - learns naturally, an alternative for Calm Mind
Toxic - good in a pinch
Hail - puts hurting on non-Ice-type opponents
Attract - not a horrible move, as Jynx is only female and most opponents gamewise are male
Captivate - not as good as Attract, but an alternative

There are also some options like

Combos:
Mean Look + Perish Song
Lovely Kiss + Wake-Up Slap
Lovely Kiss + Dream Eater


Now that we've covered a session on training Jynx, how much does Roz want to breed one? :D Or two? :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 02, 2010, 07:59:49 AM
No wai.
Jynx moveset : Psychic, Ice Beam, HP Fire, Nasty Plot. With that you've got a hell of a sweeper.
I'd love to breed a Jynx, however since it's only female, I need a father i.e Drowzee/Hypno with beastly IVs to begin with. I don't have one, and don't feel like breeding one. Guess I won't really have a choice though.

Also, anyone has a Squirtle they could give me? I can clone it and give it back too. Just need one for breeding, and since my friend's on vacations, I can't transfer 'mons from my plat to my HG game.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 02, 2010, 08:04:25 AM
Oops, I didn't even look at its Egg moves.

And what does HP Fire mean? o_O
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 02, 2010, 08:05:44 AM
HP is Hidden Power. Power and type varies depending on the IVs spread. You probably knew that already, right? :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 02, 2010, 08:31:33 AM
Yeah, never seen it abbreviated - thought you meant hit points xD
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 02, 2010, 09:46:32 AM
This is the BEST hidden power calculator I could find. Try it out yourself.
http://www.metalkid.info/Pokemon/Calculators/HiddenPower.aspx
70 Power is the highest it can be. It gives all the possible IV's for the hidden power, it's better than all the Hidden Power Calculators I could find.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 02, 2010, 09:55:24 AM
Quote from: Oni-Link on August 02, 2010, 09:46:32 AMThis is the BEST hidden power calculator I could find. Try it out yourself.
http://www.metalkid.info/Pokemon/Calculators/HiddenPower.aspx
70 Power is the highest it can be. It gives all the possible IV's for the hidden power, it's better than all the Hidden Power Calculators I could find.

Yep, Metalkid's IV calculator's awesome. Usually the one I use when I need to. There's also a link on psypokes that gives you the combinations of IVs needed to get the HP you need with base power of 70.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 02, 2010, 09:58:00 AM
Quote from: Roz~ on August 02, 2010, 09:55:24 AMYep, Metalkid's IV calculator's awesome. Usually the one I use when I need to. There's also a link on psypokes that gives you the combinations of IVs needed to get the HP you need with base power of 70.
Yeah but Metalkid's is easier @w@
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 02, 2010, 10:00:13 AM
http://www.psypokes.com/dex/hp.php
It's the easiest way to verify your HP type and base power imho.
They are two completely different things and both are awesome tools.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 02, 2010, 01:07:14 PM
Arceus theme vs. Mysterious Broadcast (Unown) (http://youtubedoubler.com/?video1=http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dnx7PkZkO-Qk&start1=0&video2=http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DMtSN_rcYM44&start2=0&authorName=)
Pretty similar, IMO.
Then there's this thread
http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=415446 (http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=415446)

EDIT:
Also, found some awesome Pokemon art.
I'll post some and give the link.
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpearlsaurus.fc2web.com%2Felog%2F493%2F484.jpg&hash=fe274478494724cc1b5426aa8abc4533e6751d79)
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpearlsaurus.fc2web.com%2Felog%2F386%2F243.jpg&hash=585363ee541fb9bffc69aaac03e347718ea2150a)
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpearlsaurus.fc2web.com%2Felog%2F386%2F330.jpg&hash=b28f87f7b468e8b9bbdb55ac219fe2e3e8319cf6)
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpearlsaurus.fc2web.com%2Felog%2F493%2F448.jpg&hash=ad505a8a26987e3369d845f1b6ac4c023d204888)
http://pearlsaurus.fc2web.com/elog.html (http://pearlsaurus.fc2web.com/elog.html)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 02, 2010, 03:35:39 PM
lol, after all that talk about Jynx, it was the focus of this week's "On the Origin of Species" column at Bulbapedia. :)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on August 02, 2010, 05:42:26 PM
Porygon-z <3
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 02, 2010, 05:48:06 PM
Quote from: Shadoninja on August 02, 2010, 05:42:26 PMPorygon-z <3
It said in Japanese, that the move Porygon-Z is using is Tri-Attack.
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpearlsaurus.fc2web.com%2Felog%2F493%2F474.jpg&hash=71ab663d3bc44229a6182d48f24212e256fb3b67)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 02, 2010, 09:27:41 PM
That's some nice stuff... did it end up being boring without me today?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 03, 2010, 07:35:35 PM
I just noticed.
Hitmonlee and Hitmonchan could = Bruce Lee and Jackie Chan.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 03, 2010, 07:41:25 PM
uncanny... i just did... so, who is hitmontop?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 03, 2010, 07:43:06 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 03, 2010, 07:41:25 PMuncanny... i just did... so, who is hitmontop?
Heck if I know, Carrot Top? Plus, wasn't he introduced in Gen II, while Hitmonlee and Hitmonchan were introduced in Gen I?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 03, 2010, 07:47:08 PM
Quote from: Oni-Link on August 03, 2010, 07:35:35 PMI just noticed.
Hitmonlee and Hitmonchan could = Bruce Lee and Jackie Chan.

Erm, not to be rude, but... DUH! :3
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 03, 2010, 07:56:37 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 03, 2010, 07:47:08 PMErm, not to be rude, but... DUH! :3
Well excuuuuuuuuse me for never thinking about it.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 03, 2010, 08:33:10 PM
... and i knew about them before you, Slow... and that would make sense due to the change in generations

It looks like that deer Pokémon will not be a pre-evolution to Stantler after all
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 04, 2010, 07:16:26 AM
Yeah, it looks nothing like it! :D

Sorry, Oni. :(

I hope the new Pokemon are all amazing.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 04, 2010, 10:16:35 AM
they all do! I'm gonna get black so I can go to black city AND get that cool psychic Pokémon
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 04, 2010, 10:19:26 AM
Er, I wouldn't call a Goth human Pokemon...cool...but it could be pretty good.

I think I am gonna train a Jynx in HG, even though I picked up a Slowpoke today. :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 04, 2010, 10:20:31 AM
So... Beat the game for the second time in Mystery Dungeon: EoS.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 04, 2010, 10:24:02 AM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 04, 2010, 10:19:26 AMEr, I wouldn't call a Goth human Pokemon...cool...but it could be pretty good.

I think I am gonna train a Jynx in HG, even though I picked up a Slowpoke today. :D

... such a sellout to yourself, haha!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 04, 2010, 10:31:10 AM
Playing the Sky Jukebox (this thing in PMD: EoS that let's you play songs from the game on the game) at full volume.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 04, 2010, 10:32:18 AM
well, sounds like a lot of fun... but there is no way ill jog with my DS blasting tunes.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 04, 2010, 10:33:03 AM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 04, 2010, 10:32:18 AMwell, sounds like a lot of fun... but there is no way ill jog with my DS blasting tunes.
Not like I'M going to do that, either.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 04, 2010, 10:54:25 AM
good boy! haha. i have to listen to songs with a great bass line (like Kashmir by Led Zeppelin) while im jogging
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 04, 2010, 10:55:23 AM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 04, 2010, 10:54:25 AMgood boy! haha. i have to listen to songs with a great bass line (like Kashmir by Led Zeppelin) while im jogging
Like Slow, I don't usually listen to stuff with vocals.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 04, 2010, 10:57:05 AM
youre really missing out on a lot of good stuff. you really dont want to see my top played songs are... you actually may call me a sellout
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 04, 2010, 11:00:33 AM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 04, 2010, 10:57:05 AMyoure really missing out on a lot of good stuff. you really dont want to see my top played songs are... you actually may call me a sellout
I listen to ones with vocals, too. But I prefer ones without.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 04, 2010, 11:08:31 AM
ok, name some songs you like to listen to with vocals
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 04, 2010, 11:35:09 AM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 04, 2010, 10:24:02 AM... such a sellout to yourself, haha!

Anyway, I ask you this - (I've been breeding for my HG)

When you breed a female Jynx with the moves Psychic, Ice Beam, Shadow Ball, and Lovely Kiss with a male Toxicroak with the moves Nasty Plot, Poison Jab, Sucker Punch, and Revenge, what should the offspring Smoochum know?

From my knowledge, the Smoochum would know Psychic, Ice Beam, Shadow Ball, and Nasty Plot. But, perhaps because I traded it from Platinum, it knows only the move Pound.

Any theories?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 04, 2010, 11:39:59 AM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 04, 2010, 11:35:09 AMAnyway, I ask you this - (I've been breeding for my HG)

When you breed a female Jynx with the moves Psychic, Ice Beam, Shadow Ball, and Lovely Kiss with a male Toxicroak with the moves Nasty Plot, Poison Jab, Sucker Punch, and Revenge, what should the offspring Smoochum know?

From my knowledge, the Smoochum would know Psychic, Ice Beam, Shadow Ball, and Nasty Plot. But, perhaps because I traded it from Platinum, it knows only the move Pound.

Any theories?
Don't ask me, I only breed from FAQ's. Like, I bred a Lucario with a Luxray so it could learn Crunch. Since, Lucario only learns bite, which is basically Crunch but weaker, I changed it.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 04, 2010, 11:42:12 AM
I can always trade over the TMs for Psychic and Ice Beam later, really. :P

When it evolves, I'll teach it Energy Ball most likely.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 04, 2010, 11:43:36 AM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 04, 2010, 11:42:12 AMI can always trade over the TMs for Psychic and Ice Beam later, really. :P

When it evolves, I'll teach it Energy Ball most likely.
Good choice, energy ball, Psychic, and Ice Beam are very good moves.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 04, 2010, 11:46:28 AM
I was gonna breed the Smoochum with Energy Ball in the first place, but only Jynx can learn it, not Smoochum. :P

Yeah, I'll just trade those two TMs. :)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 04, 2010, 12:34:40 PM
talk to roz about the breeding thing. but that would be one powerful jynx if it knew Psychic, Ice Beam, Energy Ball and possibly Toxic or Sweet Kiss for a fourth
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 04, 2010, 03:52:03 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 04, 2010, 11:35:09 AMAnyway, I ask you this - (I've been breeding for my HG)

When you breed a female Jynx with the moves Psychic, Ice Beam, Shadow Ball, and Lovely Kiss with a male Toxicroak with the moves Nasty Plot, Poison Jab, Sucker Punch, and Revenge, what should the offspring Smoochum know?

From my knowledge, the Smoochum would know Psychic, Ice Beam, Shadow Ball, and Nasty Plot. But, perhaps because I traded it from Platinum, it knows only the move Pound.

Any theories?

Try breeding one with a Hypno instead. I did, and it works.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 04, 2010, 04:50:26 PM
Nah, I just traded the TMs over. So my Smoochum knows Pound, Lick, Ice Beam and Psychic. Hope you don't think I'm cheap, but I also traded over the Energy Ball TM (Smoochum can't learn until evolving).

The last spot will either be filled with Calm Mind (top choice at the moment), Sweet Kiss (less likely), or Lovely Kiss, which I can now only get through the Move Tutor. :P

And I'm not sure about Slowpoke anymore... may not train it.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 04, 2010, 04:58:30 PM
Jynx does have the higher base stats, and a WAYY better Sp Attack and Sp Defense, too. You really gotta beef up Jynx's Defense... a whole lot!

Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 04, 2010, 05:09:05 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 02, 2010, 07:30:35 AMBlah, that could be good as well... Psychic, Ice Beam, are good (only by TM can Jynx learn them, however). You could then fill the remaining spots with - (note I'm not using physical moves as Jynx's Sp. Atk is really good)

Attack moves:
Wring Out - learns naturally and can be a good move, to some extent
Shadow Ball - move against other Psychic-types
Energy Ball - strong special attack that offers some move type diversity
Focus Blast - same as Energy Ball, but low accuracy
Water Pulse - move for the Fire-types who will kill you
Dream Eater - an alternative for Psychic
Hyper Beam - strong special move, but with a catch

Or you could use some...
Status moves:
Calm Mind - good for Jynx, because most likely it will know only special moves.
Lovely Kiss - a sleeping move that only Jynx learns - 75% accuracy, can irritate opponents
Fake Tears - learns naturally, an alternative for Calm Mind
Toxic - good in a pinch
Hail - puts hurting on non-Ice-type opponents
Attract - not a horrible move, as Jynx is only female and most opponents gamewise are male
Captivate - not as good as Attract, but an alternative

There are also some options like

Combos:
Mean Look + Perish Song
Lovely Kiss + Wake-Up Slap
Lovely Kiss + Dream Eater


Now that we've covered a session on training Jynx, how much does Roz want to breed one? :D Or two? :D

Just thinking of something...

Okay, as I've discussed before (in my second Pokemon rant, seen above), Jynx can be a real powerhouse when trained properly. However, maybe because it looks so bizarre, it has remained in the underused and unpopular section.

This can be a very good thing, as most trainers are not prepared for a Jynx.

I've got some options, and I think I'm going to go with Jynx's Calm Mind moveset - Calm Mind, Psychic, Energy Ball, and Ice Beam.

Calm Mind could also be substituted for Toxic, Hail, or Lovely or Sweet Kiss. Ah, well.

I could combine it with Magmortar and Electivire to make the ultimate Ice/Fire/Electric Battle Frontier team! Hahaha.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 04, 2010, 06:39:44 PM
Hey people, where should I hatch my Absol in HG? Thought about Mt. Silver, but I'm still looking for suggestions.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 04, 2010, 06:41:18 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on August 04, 2010, 06:39:44 PMHey people, where should I hatch my Absol in HG? Thought about Mt. Silver, but I'm still looking for suggestions.
Hmm... You now how it appears where disasters happen? Go somewhere that had a plot where a disaster was going to happen. Like in Pokemon Platinum, before you go to Spear Pillar, there's Absols around for that time only.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 04, 2010, 06:46:13 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 04, 2010, 05:09:05 PMJust thinking of something...

Okay, as I've discussed before (in my second Pokemon rant, seen above), Jynx can be a real powerhouse when trained properly. However, maybe because it looks so bizarre, it has remained in the underused and unpopular section.

This can be a very good thing, as most trainers are not prepared for a Jynx.

I've got some options, and I think I'm going to go with Jynx's Calm Mind moveset - Calm Mind, Psychic, Energy Ball, and Ice Beam.

Calm Mind could also be substituted for Toxic, Hail, or Lovely or Sweet Kiss. Ah, well.

I could combine it with Magmortar and Electivire to make the ultimate Ice/Fire/Electric Battle Frontier team! Hahaha.

That would be REALLY sick! I've been training Girafarig, and it may fare so well. I'm not final on the moves yet, but it'll probably be Zen Headbutt, Psychic, Stomp and either Energy Ball or Crunch

And to Roz~ either Mt Silver or in Tin Tower
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 04, 2010, 06:55:12 PM
Quote from: Oni-Link on August 04, 2010, 06:41:18 PMHmm... You now how it appears where disasters happen? Go somewhere that had a plot where a disaster was going to happen. Like in Pokemon Platinum, before you go to Spear Pillar, there's Absols around for that time only.

I can't hatch it in Pt, but that would've been a great hatch spot.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 04, 2010, 06:58:04 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on August 04, 2010, 06:55:12 PMI can't hatch it in Pt, but that would've been a great hatch spot.
I know, I was making an example of a DISASTER spot. Not a HATCHING spot
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 04, 2010, 06:59:10 PM
Hmm, hatch it in the Slowpoke Well. Actually, that could take a while, but Slowpoke is just so darn cute!

For real, though, hatch it in the Dark Cave (suits Absol) or Blackthorn City because it's "mysterious".
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 04, 2010, 07:28:28 PM
you can find Absol in the Dark Cave, anyways, so don't do it there
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 04, 2010, 07:32:27 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 04, 2010, 06:59:10 PMHmm, hatch it in the Slowpoke Well. Actually, that could take a while, but Slowpoke is just so darn cute!

For real, though, hatch it in the Dark Cave (suits Absol) or Blackthorn City because it's "mysterious".
Eh, the music is too upbeat. I think the Slowpoke well is suitable, since evil things happened there.
(I consider cutting off Pokemon's tails, just like animal tails, and selling them evil)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 04, 2010, 07:44:14 PM
or the goldenrod underground tunnel... or the rocket hideout/lake of rage... strange things happened there, too
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 04, 2010, 07:44:59 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 04, 2010, 07:44:14 PMor the goldenrod underground tunnel... or the rocket hideout/lake of rage... strange things happened there, too
I was thinking the Lake of Rage, but I wasn't really sure...

EDIT:
Also, I was thinking the other day
Team Magma: LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL, LAND!

Team Aqua: LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL, H20!

Team Galactic: LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL, SPACE!

Team Rocket: LOLOLOLOLOOLOLOLOL, THEFT!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 04, 2010, 07:45:51 PM
That's actually why I suggested it, lol

And nowhere does it say absol is bad - in fact, it only appears before disasters to warn people of them. It doesn't cause them.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 04, 2010, 08:23:33 PM
so, Oni, im guessing this new team would be

Team Plasma: LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL, BLOOD! or LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL, PLASMA! (because plasma is the fourth state of matter with solid, liquid and gas)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 04, 2010, 08:28:36 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 04, 2010, 07:45:51 PMThat's actually why I suggested it, lol

And nowhere does it say absol is bad - in fact, it only appears before disasters to warn people of them. It doesn't cause them.
I didn't say it was bad. I know it's not bad. It's just a foreseer, not a causer.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 04, 2010, 09:09:01 PM
oh, Pokédex entries...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 04, 2010, 09:11:49 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 04, 2010, 09:09:01 PMoh, Pokédex entries...
You know what's hilarious? The Pokedex Spanish translation for Duskull goes like this:
"It pursues its prey like a dog wherever you go. However, abandoned hunting at dawn."
My Grandma knows perfect Spanish better, the way she translated it was funnier.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 04, 2010, 09:25:28 PM
I've seen some pretty hilarious French translations!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 05, 2010, 05:52:12 AM
Er... such as?

Oh, and this weekend I'm going to see Despicable Me...

It looks like it could be good. I'd like to see Dinner for Schmucks, but I was overruled (by my 11-year-old sister lol).

I know Oni's next post -

Pokemon: Movies Version?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 05, 2010, 07:08:21 AM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 04, 2010, 09:25:28 PMI've seen some pretty hilarious French translations!

Usually the French translations are the exact same as the English Pokedex entries.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 05, 2010, 07:19:00 AM
Hey, Roz, Oni, Dr Pamplemousse, Cobraroll, or anyone else who feels like helping -

I'm breeding an Elekid next (in my SS, for my HG). I'm breeding an Electabuzz with a Hitmonchan so it will know the moves Thunderpunch, Fire Punch, and Ice Punch. :)

Later on I'm deleting Thunderpunch for Thunderbolt, and its final spot will most likely be Brick Break.

Then comes Magby, which unfortunately cannot learn Ice Punch, but can learn the other two... so its moveset will definitely contain Thunderpunch and Flamethrower... what else should I teach it?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 05, 2010, 07:24:27 AM
I'd go with a fighting-type move, either Cross Chop or Focus Blast. I'd personally go for Focus Blast. As for the last spot... I'd give him HP Ice, but I'm guessing it'll be hard for you to get the right IVs combination for it. The last spot really depends on what your team is/what moves they have.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 05, 2010, 07:25:41 AM
My team will consist of Magmar, Jynx, Electabuzz, and Togetic... Possibly Meganium, thinking about dropping it. Maybe Slowpoke (big maybe).
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 05, 2010, 07:40:28 AM
You could go with Earthquake if you're not planing on teaching it to Electabuzz.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 05, 2010, 08:04:39 AM
HEY!!!
Guess what, you guys!!! You guys won't think this is cool, probably happens to you all the time, but...

I was training in Mt. Silver (that Hitmonchan needs to know Ice Punch, etc.) when I found my FIRST SHINY in my SoulSilver!!! (other than Gyarados at LoR)

It's a green Teddiursa, Lv43, and even better, I managed to catch it in a Moon Ball! :D

I am ecstatic right now!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 05, 2010, 08:13:35 AM
Haha, that's cool. I always get lame shinies (Rattata, Golbat, etc.)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 05, 2010, 09:48:33 AM
Finished breeding but I am not sure if I did things right. I am going to trade the Eggs over soon.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 05, 2010, 09:53:05 AM
My first shiny was a buizel in platinum and then i got a shiny mareep once in soul silver

And slow, good job picking those Pokémon from Gen I that were close to Jynx in P-Dex numbers! haha
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 05, 2010, 09:58:45 AM
OKAY EVERYONE!
EVERYONE SAY THEIR TOTAL PROGRESS IN HG/SS~!

I've finished everything, including the Johtodex, (Not the whole Dex), and I'm at the Battle Frontier.
What about you guys' TOTAL progress?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 05, 2010, 10:01:56 AM
Actually, Jynx/Magmar/Electabuxx are "rivals" of each other - like Lileep/Anorith, Bellsprout/Oddish, Slowpoke/Psyduck, etc.

They all have babies in gen II that evolve at the same level, and they are right ext to each other in the Pokedex, just like their parents - Ice first, then Electric, then Fire. :)

But they didn't give Jynx an extra evolution... probably because Game Freak is very tentative of using Jynx after the outcry against its design.

They even changed its face color from black...

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Farchives.bulbagarden.net%2Fmedia%2Fupload%2Fb%2Fbb%2FControversial_Jynx.jpg&hash=4d766b95457d3d089fa0f6898d6a1b87dad515f2)

...to purple.

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Farchives.bulbagarden.net%2Fmedia%2Fupload%2F7%2F7c%2F124Jynx.png&hash=c5427c73a643bb3594e2b33188a454f7239d5fcd)

While I'm posting Sugimori originals, I have to admit I love Smoochum's new art.

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Farchives.bulbagarden.net%2Fmedia%2Fupload%2Fthumb%2F0%2F0e%2F238Smoochum.png%2F105px-238Smoochum.png&hash=2d59905eb7b97aada552db4141b72bc59f116ad8)

Really, unnecessarily long post, sorry. :( And it's interesting to note how much better Sugimori's gotten at art. I mean, look at those pictures of Jynx, compare the Red/Green/Blue design to the FireRed/LeafGreen design. Even from there, look at Smoochum's HGSS design... pretty cool drawings. :3

I'm also an art nerd, sorry.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 05, 2010, 10:03:39 AM
*Disappointed that Slow never listens to Oni-Link*
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 05, 2010, 10:07:51 AM
Uh...
In HG

Badges: 16
JDex: 221S 107O
NDex: 290S 142O

Completed Elite Four at 20:04
Completed Elite Four 2nd time

In SS
Badges: 16
Symbols: 2 Gold Symbols
Red Beaten
JDex: 219S 121O
NDex: 296S 158O

Completed Elite Four at 17:48
Never Faced Elite Four Second Time
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 05, 2010, 10:10:45 AM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 05, 2010, 10:07:51 AMUh...
In HG

Badges: 16
JDex: 221S 107O
NDex: 290S 142O

Completed Elite Four at 20:04
Completed Elite Four 2nd time

In SS
Badges: 16
Symbols: 2 Gold Symbols
Red Beaten
JDex: 219S 121O
NDex: 296S 158O

Completed Elite Four at 17:48
Never Faced Elite Four Second Time
Thank you DP.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 05, 2010, 10:14:06 AM
God, didn't see that, sorry. :3 It was on a different page from my "New Unread Posts".

Quote from: Oni-Link on August 05, 2010, 09:58:45 AMOKAY EVERYONE!
EVERYONE SAY THEIR TOTAL PROGRESS IN HG/SS~!

I've finished everything, including the Johtodex, (Not the whole Dex), and I'm at the Battle Frontier.
What about you guys' TOTAL progress?
SoulSilver
I beat Red a while back.

My team is level 70 all, exactly.

Started journey March 14, 2010 (my 14th birthday, day SS/HG came out :))

Elite Four Defeat: March 22, 2010
Ampharos Lv42, Slowking Lv42, Vulpix Lv40, Pidgeot Lv40, Meganium Lv40, Heracross Lv41

Elite Four Defeat No. 2
April 11, 2010
Slowking Lv 62, Meganium Lv61, Ampharos Lv62, Heracross Lv62, Dragonite Lv62, Ninetales Lv64

I'm not going to go through all of them, but here was my latest Hall of Fame:

Hall of Fame No. 7
July 12, 2010
Slowking Lv70, Meganium Lv68, Heracross Lv69, Dragonite Lv69, Ninetales Lv68, Ampharos Lv 70

Johto -
Seen [239], Obtained [181]

National -
Seen [325], Obtained [225]

Not horrible, not great. ;P

My brother has beaten the Pokemon League and only has like 29 though. :D

HeartGold
In Azalea Town, training Smoochum (Lv14) in Union Cave, about to trade Elekid and Magby Eggs from SoulSilver. Other Pokemon: Slowpoke Lv7, Bayleef Lv17, Togepi Lv18.

Happy? :)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 05, 2010, 10:39:06 AM
HG : Haven't beaten Red yet.
Started Journey on March 14th, 2010.

Hall of Fame #1 : April 17th, 2010
Ampharos lvl 51, Nidoking lvl 50, Gengar lvl 51, Typhlosion lvl 51, Victreebel lvl 47, Poliwrath lvl 54.

Hall of Fame #2 : May 20, 2010.
Ampharos lvl 66, Nidoking lvl 66, Gengar lvl 65, Typhlosion lvl 65, Victreebel lvl 65, Poliwrath lvl 66.

Johto dex : Seen : 215 Obtained : 102
National dex : Seen : 304 Obtained : 172

Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 05, 2010, 11:32:42 AM
Elekid Lv1
Hatched SLOWPOKE Well
Bold Nature
Quick Attack, Leer, Fire Punch, Ice Punch

Magby Lv1
Hatched Route 33
Forget the nature :)
Smog, Leer, ThunderPunch
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 05, 2010, 11:38:11 AM
Good Job!

Right now im trading a bunch of Pokémon from my Diamond... Stunky, Glameow, Riolu, Piplup, an Entei and Squirtle

I just wish i could transfer them, but on my Diamond it is NDex: 490S 320O
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 05, 2010, 11:39:26 AM
Ooh, not bad, but in my Platinum my national dex is... actually, I have no idea. xP

I've seen 384 or something like that lol.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 05, 2010, 11:46:36 AM
I need to transfer the Arceus and Shaymin over from the "Fateful Encounter" so I could get that Lv 1 Super from the Sinjoh Ruins
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 05, 2010, 11:47:51 AM
I didn't bother getting that... Arceus is blah anyway for me.

And Dialga/Palkia/Giratina have never been my favorites. :P

I want to download the Enigma Stone though.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 05, 2010, 11:51:27 AM
Wow, my icon looks sort of transparent now.
Also, just got the Enigma Stone. Looks weird.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 05, 2010, 11:56:04 AM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 05, 2010, 11:47:51 AMI didn't bother getting that... Arceus is blah anyway for me.

And Dialga/Palkia/Giratina have never been my favorites. :P

I want to download the Enigma Stone though.

Its still nice to get that event over.... and Giratina IS in its origin forme... I'll probably go with Dialga anyways.

AND GREAT NEWS!!

I caught a SHINY Gible... woo!!!! SHiny Garchomps look better!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 05, 2010, 11:57:32 AM
I like that icon! :D

Gah... I go and catch my shiny Teddiursa, and you just have to outdo me. :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 05, 2010, 11:58:38 AM
I honestly think shiny Pidgeots look awesome.
I MEAN LOOK AT THAT
THEY'RE PRACTICALLY GOLDEN.
And yeah, I have one.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 05, 2010, 11:59:22 AM
... well it happened on a game i havent played since platinum came out!

Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 05, 2010, 11:59:37 AM
My brother found a golden Pidgey in his HG...before he had PokeBalls. He was all angry but it was funny.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 05, 2010, 12:02:07 PM
im finally getting rid of Pokémon ill never use... i can finally say sayonara to Sableye... i hate it!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 05, 2010, 12:06:59 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 05, 2010, 12:02:07 PMim finally getting rid of Pokémon ill never use... i can finally say sayonara to Sableye... i hate it!
Sableye has a funny Japanese name.
YAMIRAMI
Yamiramiyamiramiyamiramiyamiramiyamiramiyamiramiyamiramiyamirami.
It's fun to say it over and over.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 05, 2010, 12:18:36 PM
yep... pretty funky, haha. i just traded a Gliscor for a Skuntank on the GTS... woo!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 05, 2010, 12:23:36 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 05, 2010, 12:18:36 PMyep... pretty funky, haha. i just traded a Gliscor for a Skuntank on the GTS... woo!
...Is that a good thing?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 05, 2010, 12:25:58 PM
i was not really the Gliscor fan... plus i would never have used it in battle
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 05, 2010, 12:27:45 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 05, 2010, 12:25:58 PMi was not really the Gliscor fan... plus i would never have used it in battle
I named my Gliscor Alucard, after the Castlevania character.
Castlevania is a sidescroller game about vampires, if you didn't know.
(Not saying you didn't, just saying IF)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 05, 2010, 12:31:15 PM
i know a little bit... im not a big vampire fan ANYMORE since a certain series basically ruined it
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 05, 2010, 12:34:19 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 05, 2010, 12:31:15 PMi know a little bit... im not a big vampire fan ANYMORE since a certain series basically ruined it
ಠ_ಠ  ಠ_ಠ  ಠ_ಠ  ಠ_ಠ  ಠ_ಠ  ಠ_ಠ
I hate that horrible series.
EDIT: Fighting the Elite 4 Again so I can fight Red again, just for fun.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 05, 2010, 12:55:04 PM
You can fight Red AGAIN??? How!? Just go on the Elite Four? So I was eligible ages ago!?!?!?!?!?!?

GAH!

And yeah, Skuntank is like eighteen times better than Gliscor.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 05, 2010, 01:00:03 PM
I gots me a Giratina and a Dialga... now theyre gonna sit in my PC and obtain dust! haha

Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 05, 2010, 01:01:39 PM
Er, congratulations. I have all three Lv70 in my Platinum.

It's funny because I caught the Lv47 or so one in Distortion World, and trained it with my party, but dropped it once it was Lv70... then I caught Dialga and Palkia Lv70 on Spear Pillar, you know, so they're lined up next to each other in my PC.

-_o
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 05, 2010, 01:05:19 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 05, 2010, 12:55:04 PMYou can fight Red AGAIN??? How!? Just go on the Elite Four? So I was eligible ages ago!?!?!?!?!?!?

GAH!

And yeah, Skuntank is like eighteen times better than Gliscor.
Yeah, fight the Elite Four a second time, then you can go back to Red in Mt. Silver and fight him.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 05, 2010, 01:07:52 PM
... so that's how it works!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 05, 2010, 01:10:50 PM
I've beaten the Elite Four quite a few times after I beat Red... I never thought of going back to Mt. Silver. ('-_-)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 05, 2010, 01:11:51 PM
That's cool. I always wanted to rebattle him in Gold; I guess I'll do it in HG.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 05, 2010, 01:17:09 PM
I just dont like going through mount silver... gets borings after a while... speaking of caves, it would be cool to get them secret bases back!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 05, 2010, 01:41:07 PM
UGH!
I mistook my Jolteon's hidden power for Ice!
It was actually Electric, so when I used it on Garchomp...
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Freactionimage.org%2Fimg%2Fbig%2F1274825174599.jpg&hash=cd133b22bd2c24ee71da23c0e4fafbca75740fbb)
Then it used earthquake...
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Freactionimage.org%2Fimg%2Fbig%2F1274825174599.jpg&hash=cd133b22bd2c24ee71da23c0e4fafbca75740fbb)

Now I have to breed another one...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 05, 2010, 01:43:08 PM
Hee hee, beat Red again!

And I forgot to post my Hall of Fame time - 20:42

Anyway. I'm gonna keep battling the Elite Four/Red again over and over.

And what are your guys' scores on your Trainer Cards?

Mine's 11069. Do you know what that means?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 05, 2010, 01:55:28 PM
I have no clue
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 05, 2010, 01:59:34 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 05, 2010, 01:43:08 PMHee hee, beat Red again!

And I forgot to post my Hall of Fame time - 20:42

Anyway. I'm gonna keep battling the Elite Four/Red again over and over.

And what are your guys' scores on your Trainer Cards?

Mine's 11069. Do you know what that means?
I have 2.

Beat the Eliter Four.
And Collected 5 shiny leaves on Pokemon (http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/shinyleaf.shtml)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 05, 2010, 02:04:03 PM
No, not the stars or colors, those are obvious! I meant the place where it says SCORE.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on August 05, 2010, 02:05:55 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 05, 2010, 12:55:04 PMAnd yeah, Skuntank is like eighteen times better than Gliscor.

I'm sorry to object to this.

Gliscor has superior stats to Skuntank, save for HP and Special Attack. Gliscor biggest selling point, perhaps, is a STAB Earthquake and an immunity to said move itself (while Skuntank is flattened by it. Earthquake is the most commonly seen move in competitive battling). Gliscor can also learn Swords Dance, a move Skuntank would have killed for. Other advantages on the movepool side of things are Stealth Rock, reliable healing (roost), Stone Edge, Rock Polish, U-Turn, etc, etc. It's also immune to Spikes and Toxic Spikes, and it isn't outclassed by another Pokémon which fills the same niché (who in their right mind would choose Skuntank over Drapion?).

Also, Skuntank is stopped dead by Steel types. Admittedly, Gliscor doesn't like Gyarados much, but can always work around it by building another move pool. Skuntank's only option against Steel types is Rock Smash.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 05, 2010, 02:06:53 PM
I have two stars too, but I havent found the shiny leaves yet... i still have to do that, though
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 05, 2010, 02:08:07 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 05, 2010, 02:04:03 PMNo, not the stars or colors, those are obvious! I meant the place where it says SCORE.
Oh.
My score is...
I'm too embarrassed to say it.
Anyway, isn't it AWESOME how Red just vanishes after you beat him?

EDIT:
DP, what's your second star?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 05, 2010, 02:14:21 PM
The stars are...

  • Defeat the Elite Four
  • Collect five Shiny Leaves on one Pokemon and speak to Lyra/Ethan in New Bark Town
  • Defeat the records on all ten Pokeathlon events
  • Get a 100-win streak in the Battle Tower
  • Complete the National PokeDex. You need to capture all Pokemon other than Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, Deoxys, Phione, Manaphy, Darkrai, Shaymin, and Arceus, giving you a total of 484 in your PokeDex.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 05, 2010, 02:17:54 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 05, 2010, 02:14:21 PMThe stars are...

  • Defeat the Elite Four
  • Collect five Shiny Leaves on one Pokemon and speak to Lyra/Ethan in New Bark Town
  • Defeat the records on all ten Pokeathlon events
  • Get a 100-win streak in the Battle Tower
  • Complete the National PokeDex. You need to capture all Pokemon other than Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, Deoxys, Phione, Manaphy, Darkrai, Shaymin, and Arceus, giving you a total of 484 in your PokeDex.
We know, I saw what stars you can get on Serebii.
http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/trainercard.shtml
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 05, 2010, 02:19:28 PM
The records in the Pokéathlon events... I had to use Raikou for the Hurdle Dash
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 05, 2010, 02:19:43 PM
I've done only the top two on that list. That is, I have two crowns and I have beaten the Elite Four. xP

I want to know your score, Oni and Dr Pamplemousse, and Roz... tell me! :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 05, 2010, 02:20:58 PM
like 9636... something around there. im not on my ds at the moment. I havent beat Red yet. I may work on shiny leaves today
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 05, 2010, 02:21:20 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 05, 2010, 02:19:43 PMI've done only the top two on that list. That is, I have two crowns and I have beaten the Elite Four. xP

I want to know your score, Oni and Dr Pamplemousse, and Roz... tell me! :D
I'll never tell.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 05, 2010, 02:42:35 PM
I said mine! 11069! And apparently that's high, I thought it was low. I'll need to look up what it is!

EDIT: THIS (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Trainer_card_%28game%29#Score) should answer your questions!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 05, 2010, 02:57:25 PM
Fine. Mine is 30612.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 05, 2010, 03:05:32 PM
Wow! That's really cool! You're amazing if you're telling the truth! Though you said you completed the Johto PokeDex (and I hope without cheating -_-).
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 05, 2010, 03:08:45 PM
Interesting! One more shiny leaf to go!

Oh, and my SS score is 14590
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 05, 2010, 03:10:46 PM
T.T

I need to go do some more stuff.

Anyway. Elekid Lv9, Smoochum Lv13, Magby Lv1.

Has anyone managed to catch the Lv100 Magikarp in the Resort Area in Platinum? :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 05, 2010, 03:13:18 PM
Woohoo! 3 Stars! and a purple card for me

I got a level 98 magikarp... never got the level 100 one. its great because I could use just one rare candy and get a level 99 gyarados!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 05, 2010, 03:14:07 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 05, 2010, 03:13:18 PMWoohoo! 3 Stars! and a purple card for me

I got a level 98 magikarp... never got the level 100 one. its great because I could use just one rare candy and get a level 99 gyarados that only knows Splash, Tackle and Flail!

*fixed
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 05, 2010, 03:16:41 PM
Uh, TMs... DUH!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 05, 2010, 03:17:23 PM
I know, but I like to say things like that lol

The best case scenario would be a Lv99 Magikarp. If it's Lv100, it's stuck as a floppish little fish.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 05, 2010, 03:21:33 PM
Well I'm in the 80's of th e Battle Tower, almost at 3 stars. Then I have to get to the Pokethlon and win those 10 whatevers, and then I TRY
TRY
To finish the national Pokedex.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 05, 2010, 03:23:45 PM
Fat chance... It was way easier to do in D/P/Pt.

:P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 05, 2010, 03:25:24 PM
Yep. Anyway, just finished that part of the frontier. Now I'm at 84.
14 more matches to go to get to 105.
*sigh*
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 05, 2010, 03:36:43 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 05, 2010, 03:17:23 PMI know, but I like to say things like that lol

The best case scenario would be a Lv99 Magikarp. If it's Lv100, it's stuck as a floppish little fish.

or catch a lv 95 one and just save 5 rare candies from picking them up!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 05, 2010, 03:39:29 PM
:-I

Umm, okay.

BLAH BLAH BLAH

Someone post something in TWG VIII, I'm feeling TWG drama-deprived.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 05, 2010, 03:45:38 PM
why don't YOU post something... cause I dont wanna get in there now
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 05, 2010, 04:42:29 PM
Hahaha, I can live. xD
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 05, 2010, 05:03:13 PM
Can't we all... haha

EDIT: Not to double post, so Im facing the elite four for the third time... and then all the gym leaders. I just have to beef up Snorlax before red, so earthquake can destroy that lousy excuse for an electric mouse (jk on the lousy excuse)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 05, 2010, 06:02:24 PM
HeartGold update -

Magby Lv11
Elekid Lv13
Smoochum Lv13
Bayleef Lv17
Togepi Lv18
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 05, 2010, 06:42:19 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 05, 2010, 05:03:13 PMCan't we all... haha

EDIT: Not to double post, so Im facing the elite four for the third time... and then all the gym leaders. I just have to beef up Snorlax before red, so earthquake can destroy that lousy excuse for an electric mouse (jk on the lousy excuse)
It'll take you around a week to beat the gym leaders again, since they only rematch once each on a different day. (Some are on the same day)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 05, 2010, 07:04:55 PM
Here's what you do - call them all at their specific times, but DON'T BATTLE THEM. They will not go away when it is no longer their time. If you keep doing this, you can actually have them all in the Dojo at the same time.  8)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 05, 2010, 07:06:29 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 05, 2010, 07:04:55 PMHere's what you do - call them all at their specific times, but DON'T BATTLE THEM. They will not go away when it is no longer their time. If you keep doing this, you can actually have them all in the Dojo at the same time.  8)
Yeah, I know. But I just do it the other way @.@
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 05, 2010, 07:09:27 PM
Yeah, I know. But then I can like battle them in this order: Falkner, Bugsy, Whitney, Morty, Chuck, Jasmine, Pryce, Claire, Brock, Misty, Lt. Surge, Erika, Janine, Sabrina (who is super hot btw ;D), Blaine, and finally Blue. I don't have Blue's number yet, unfortunately. ;P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 05, 2010, 07:12:22 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 05, 2010, 07:09:27 PMYeah, I know. But then I can like battle them in this order: Falkner, Bugsy, Whitney, Morty, Chuck, Jasmine, Pryce, Claire, Brock, Misty, Lt. Surge, Erika, Janine, Sabrina (who is super hot btw ;D), Blaine, and finally Blue. I don't have Blue's number yet, unfortunately. ;P
Attracted by pixels?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 05, 2010, 07:12:48 PM
I just need to call Clair, Brock and Lt Surge... the rest are all ready to go in the Dojo
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 05, 2010, 07:19:54 PM
Quote from: Oni-Link on August 05, 2010, 07:12:22 PMAttracted by pixels?

I just have to double post this!

Yes, it seems so... J, er Slow has some fantasy issues he needs to sort out!

Er, and im making a poll for this thread. Please vote
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 05, 2010, 07:46:39 PM
when slow comes back on, hes gonna have a heart attack
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 05, 2010, 07:51:37 PM
Quote from: Shadoninja on August 05, 2010, 07:38:41 PM(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.advancedanime.com%2Fpictures%2Fnormal_jynx.jpg&hash=237d50d87d7285f42eb915facbfbb3ad58b79404)
just felt like sharing.

also, something I did real quickly.
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi113.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn208%2Fshadoninja%2FJustin_Timberlake_Jynx_Jackson.png&hash=df32f0b5b5f81ec70f078601fd5ea4166d6c0d50)

Saw that normal Jynx before mang. Someone said it's the first time they got attracted by Jynx.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 05, 2010, 07:53:26 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 05, 2010, 07:46:39 PMwhen slow comes back on, hes gonna have a heart attack

Oh, real nice. :3

Still the same levels in HG. :P

And why'd you call me J?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 05, 2010, 07:59:57 PM
... almost said your name...

Sweeping through Bruno with Staraptor and Brave Bird!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 05, 2010, 08:06:14 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 05, 2010, 07:59:57 PM... almost said your name...

Sweeping through Bruno with Staraptor and Brave Bird!
Oooh, a NAME. Could it be James? Jeremy? Jack? Jacob? Jaden(Or some other spelling)? Jake? Jamal? Jamar?
Tell me if you know, I promise I won't use it for evil purposes.



Please? I promise ;~;
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 05, 2010, 08:29:41 PM
You have to guess it... and you havent guessed it yet.

I love it how Lance's Dragonite uses Draco Meteor like 6 times and then uses hyper beam and it barely does jack shit
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 05, 2010, 08:38:14 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 05, 2010, 08:29:41 PMYou have to guess it... and you havent guessed it yet.

I love it how Lance's Dragonite uses Draco Meteor like 6 times and then uses hyper beam and it barely does jack shit
Lance is cheap. Red just has high level Pokemon.
There's a difference.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 05, 2010, 08:41:47 PM
so im guessing red's pokemon stats are pretty "south park city wok"
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 05, 2010, 08:44:41 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 05, 2010, 08:41:47 PMso im guessing red's pokemon stats are pretty "south park city wok"
Dunno, don't watch South Park.
Also, I voted Paul for the sole reason that I don't like Ash.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 05, 2010, 08:54:56 PM
Im not gonna vote in my poll

The city wok owner has a stereotypical chinese accent so he says "shitty wok" instead of city wok... basically an elaborate form of shitty

Im in the battle arcade now for a change of pace
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 05, 2010, 08:58:45 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 05, 2010, 08:54:56 PMIm not gonna vote in my poll

The city wok owner has a stereotypical chinese accent so he says "shitty wok" instead of city wok... basically an elaborate form of shitty

Im in the battle arcade now for a change of pace

I'm going to do the Pokethlon with my Arceus that I got over the Wi-Fi event a few months ago... (It has teh best stats when equipped with the draco plate)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 05, 2010, 09:06:52 PM
thats cheap! i didnt know you could change pokeathlon stats with the plates on arceus

The final statues in the hall of fame for me is Raikou, Houndour and Stantler!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 05, 2010, 09:19:31 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 05, 2010, 09:06:52 PMthats cheap! i didnt know you could change pokeathlon stats with the plates on arceus

The final statues in the hall of fame for me is Raikou, Houndour and Stantler!
Yeah, you can check on Serebii, although the speed with the Draco plate sucks.
But anyway, any tips on Pokethlon?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 05, 2010, 09:24:04 PM
Going to the frontier with my Girafarig/Drapion/Machamp. Dunno what facility I should pick first though. Suggestions?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 05, 2010, 09:37:38 PM
Well, I usually went with the Battle Tower first, but I chose the least likely one I would choose.

Go for the one you really wouldn't choose (Arena? Arcade? Castle?)

If you cant choose, go with Battle Castle!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 05, 2010, 09:39:20 PM
No tips for me... Meh, already got 2 Medals, even though I had to restart a few times...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 05, 2010, 09:58:15 PM
i have all the medals on Platinum that i ever got (like 3... i may go for them again)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 05, 2010, 10:00:03 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 05, 2010, 09:58:15 PMi have all the medals on Platinum that i ever got (like 3... i may go for them again)
What do you mean Platinum?
I was talking about Pokeathlon medals.
I have 4 now. Now all I need is SPEED!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 05, 2010, 10:01:52 PM
i thought about battle frontier stuff... oh i have a shitload of pokéathlon medals

are they still called frontier symbols for the Gen IV frontier?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 05, 2010, 11:11:51 PM
I just had to double post for this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrpqaNDJuFs&

Look at the Shuckle/Gible thing... haha
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 05, 2010, 11:16:00 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 05, 2010, 11:11:51 PMI just had to double post for this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrpqaNDJuFs&

Look at the Shuckle/Gible thing... haha
I herd u watch Japanese dubbed anime
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 06, 2010, 12:01:50 AM
i watch both... the dubbed one sucks, but at least i can understand what they are saying, instead of getting the jist from watching attacks... i did fairly good writing the synopsis for DP186 (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/DP186) on Bulbapedia from just watching the japanese version!

Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 06, 2010, 05:10:17 AM
Quote from: Roz~ on August 05, 2010, 09:24:04 PMGoing to the frontier with my Girafarig/Drapion/Machamp. Dunno what facility I should pick first though. Suggestions?

Definitely Tower. The others are just silly and the Tower is the most fun anyway.

Or, pick the Hall if you have a really move diversified Pokemon.

In my Platinum, I go on the Hall (and have beaten the brain) with a Gardevoir that knows Psychic, Thunderbolt, Shadow Ball, and Signal Beam. Gives it incredible advantages over many types, which include Dark.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 06, 2010, 06:26:45 AM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 06, 2010, 05:10:17 AMDefinitely Tower. The others are just silly and the Tower is the most fun anyway.

Or, pick the Hall if you have a really move diversified Pokemon.

In my Platinum, I go on the Hall (and have beaten the brain) with a Gardevoir that knows Psychic, Thunderbolt, Shadow Ball, and Signal Beam. Gives it incredible advantages over many types, which include Dark.

Might go for the hall, my Girafarig knows Psychic/TBolt/Shadow Ball/HP Fighting 70.
Looking for a cool nickname for my Girafarig.
Also looking for a quick trade to evolve my Machoke into Machamp.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 06, 2010, 07:58:25 AM
Battle Hall was kinda fun... I've always done best in the Battle Tower and Battle Castle.

Im may do the battle hall with a Dragonite that knows Ice Beam/Flamethrower/Thunderbolt/Dragon Pulse or with Alakazam and his nice moveset
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 06, 2010, 08:50:54 AM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 06, 2010, 07:58:25 AMBattle Hall was kinda fun... I've always done best in the Battle Tower and Battle Castle.
That's because THEY'RE THE EASIEST
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 06, 2010, 09:58:00 AM
Yeah, and the easiest doesn't mean worst, or cheapest.

The Battle Factory is so hard it's ridiculous, and the Battle Arcade is just a bad rehash of the Battle Tower that takes too long for my liking.

Girafarig nicknames - Farigiraf (;D) or Chomp.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 06, 2010, 11:09:43 AM
CHOMP! I like!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 06, 2010, 01:35:22 PM
'Cause of its tail!
HG update:

Magby Lv17
Smoochum Lv16
Elekid Lv16
Baylef Lv17
Togepi Lv18

Going for the Azalea Gym! :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 06, 2010, 01:51:16 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 06, 2010, 01:35:22 PM'Cause of its tail!
HG update:

Magby Lv17
Smoochum Lv16
Elekid Lv16
Baylef Lv17
Togepi Lv18

Going for the Azalea Gym! :D
Stop by and listen to the music!
Actually, it's better with the GB Sounds.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 06, 2010, 01:54:42 PM
I don't really think they can be compared... they're pretty much the same for me, but I would rather listen to the remixed. I like both better than the Four Island remix though. ;P

It's probably my favorite song in G/S. Actually, I love all of them

Random comment - don't you love the remix of Burned Tower???

Love the part that starts at 0:14

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKkHex0c9wk
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 06, 2010, 02:11:16 PM
I like all the older stuff... but if they made them with newer instrumentation, ill be happy!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on August 06, 2010, 02:21:16 PM
The animé soundtrack has lots and lots of game music that's orchestrated. Shame much of it gets wiped off YouTube from time to time.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 06, 2010, 02:37:27 PM
Its pretty good stuff. i liked the Route 201 remix from the anime!

And new anime here tomorrow!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 06, 2010, 02:52:31 PM
Loooove Slowpoke. :D

None of you have told me your favorite Pokemon! :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 06, 2010, 02:56:35 PM
YOU KNOW MY FAVORITE POKEMON!!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 06, 2010, 02:57:07 PM
Aah, just realized... Squirtle? :)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 06, 2010, 03:01:50 PM
My favorite is Absol, probably.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 06, 2010, 03:07:12 PM
Cooool. Some other favorites of mine are Gardevoir, Spinda, Salamence, Cradily, Sceptile, Smoochum, Mime Jr., Chikorita... blah blah blah, don't feel like elaborating. :)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 06, 2010, 03:24:05 PM
here's my list

It has to be changed since it was made over a year ago  ;D

Favorite Pokémon (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:Marillrocks/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 06, 2010, 03:25:56 PM
Quote from: Shadoninja on August 06, 2010, 03:23:29 PMSkarmory, but lately i've been diggin' porygon-z.
I have Porygon-Z in my team. He has the highest Sp. Atk out of all the non-legendaries, (Tied with Alakazam)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 06, 2010, 03:27:40 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 06, 2010, 03:24:05 PMhere's my list

It has to be changed since it was made over a year ago  ;D

Favorite Pokémon (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:Marillrocks/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon)

It certainly does!

ADD SLOWPOKE!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 06, 2010, 03:31:02 PM
I'll think about... maybe. I have to use slowpoke in battle a couple of times (cause the last time I ever used him was... oh back in Crystal)

I cant believe I dont have Girafarig on that list XD. Ack!

Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 06, 2010, 03:35:37 PM
ANYWAY

Look at these vids

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnUKmVDwAyI&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eLMFxYdcBg&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDVgVre8ikQ&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM-3a_0LkXM&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMK3sY3LWds&feature=channel

All the same guy... all the same wicked talent.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 06, 2010, 03:38:23 PM
... just another asian kid... -sigh-

They are pretty good, otherwise.

This is how I make my sheets in the first place!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 06, 2010, 03:39:10 PM
How?

And I am writing the next chapter of TWTGO. Gonna start writing more. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 06, 2010, 05:35:58 PM
Do I have to explain this entire process for like the 9th time?

... and I gotta write some more. I'll take a huge chunk out of chapter 7. Final Gym battle is complete! woo.
(speaking of which, you still need to read it... and i tried to comment on yours on sunday night, but im still trying to remember what i said)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 07, 2010, 07:12:49 AM
Hahahaha

HG update:

Dropped Bayleef. '-_-

Magby Lv20
Elekid Lv19
Smoochum Lv20
Togetic Lv19

Beaten Whitney, going on Route 35.

I spent forever playing Voltorb Flip because it's freakishly fun now. Got like 3000 coins and bought a Dratini... however, I was considering training it, but it has a Bold nature, so I won't. Besides, I think I'm just gonna stick with the four I've got.

Took a Team Rocket Photo with my Pokemon and dressed up my Smoochum! :D

EDIT: Have you guys noticed that Verdanturf Town and National Park play the same theme???
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 07, 2010, 10:43:16 AM
nope, i can personally tell you they arent. One of the songs in my "master" book, Verdanturf Town is not like it... what did you find similar

But here's a fun fact, the Bug Catching Contest theme is based off the R/B Bicycle theme
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 07, 2010, 03:41:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sr_LutgDjV0

Part that starts at 1:23

Listen and tell me that doesn't sound like Verdanturf.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 07, 2010, 03:49:08 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 07, 2010, 03:41:58 PMhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sr_LutgDjV0

Part that starts at 1:23

Listen and tell me that doesn't sound like Verdanturf.
Could've just done this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sr_LutgDjV0#t=1m23s

Add a #t=[minutes]m[seconds]s to the end of the url, and it will skip to that part.

Example: #t=2m55s
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 07, 2010, 03:52:02 PM
Cool, thanks. I didn't know that. :P

HG update:

Smoochum Lv21
Magby Lv21
Elekid Lv21
Togetic Lv21
Sudowoodo Lv21
Slowpoke Lv19 (still training)

Not a very good team, huh? :)

I think I'm gonna give my Slowpoke an Everstone. At least until it learns all of its moves... maybe later. xP
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 07, 2010, 04:00:42 PM
In 5 days, I'm gonna restart SS... and the team will not be divulged until I beat Morty!!! (It's just to keep everyone in suspense)

And for the whole Verdanturf thing, it sounds a bit like the B section of Verdanturf for like 4 or 5 bars... coincidence, I think so!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 07, 2010, 04:02:54 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 07, 2010, 04:00:42 PMIn 5 days, I'm gonna restart SS... and the team will not be divulged until I beat Morty!!! (It's just to keep everyone in suspense)

And for the whole Verdanturf thing, it sounds a bit like the B section of Verdanturf for like 4 or 5 bars... coincidence, I think so!
If you restart SS you can get items you can only get once! Including legendaries!
ALSO
ANYONE WANT TO BORROW MY TRU ARCEUS? It lets you go to the Sinjoh Ruins. I got it from my friend on IRC, on another network that's not the one #nsm has.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 07, 2010, 04:06:30 PM
I already has the Pokemon Movie 9 Arceus AND a Hall of Origin one... so I can visit the Sinjoh Ruins twice!!!

(Oni, you can borrow my Hall of Origin one if you wanna go and get a second dragon!)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 07, 2010, 04:08:10 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 07, 2010, 04:06:30 PMI already has the Pokemon Movie 9 Arceus AND a Hall of Origin one... so I can visit the Sinjoh Ruins twice!!!

(Oni, you can borrow my Hall of Origin one if you wanna go and get a second dragon!)
Nah, I'm fine...



I think I'd like a Dialga really bad, though...



Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 07, 2010, 04:36:10 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 07, 2010, 04:06:30 PMI already has the Pokemon Movie 9 Arceus AND a Hall of Origin one... so I can visit the Sinjoh Ruins twice!!!

(Oni, you can borrow my Hall of Origin one if you wanna go and get a second dragon!)

I have a Japanese, English and French Arceus. I guess I'll be able to get them all.  :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 07, 2010, 04:39:12 PM
Quote from: Oni-Link on August 07, 2010, 04:08:10 PMNah, I'm fine...



I think I'd like a Dialga really bad, though...


Not a problem, Oni!

Quote from: Roz~ on August 07, 2010, 04:36:10 PMI have a Japanese, English and French Arceus. I guess I'll be able to get them all.  :D

You can only use one from the movie, first, and then the one from the hall of origin the second time... and that's it. I tried with a third one from Japan, and no dice.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 07, 2010, 04:53:46 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 07, 2010, 04:39:12 PMNot a problem, Oni!

You can only use one from the movie, first, and then the one from the hall of origin the second time... and that's it. I tried with a third one from Japan, and no dice.

Hmm, it sucks then. I'll have to borrow my friend's SS.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 07, 2010, 04:59:43 PM
... or you can borrow my HoO Arceus!

What is really strange is that my Pokemon Red, Blue and Yellow still have their save states, but the internal battery is dead on my Silver and Gold... strange, huh?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 07, 2010, 05:05:57 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 07, 2010, 04:59:43 PM... or you can borrow my HoO Arceus!

What is really strange is that my Pokemon Red, Blue and Yellow still have their save states, but the internal battery is dead on my Silver and Gold... strange, huh?
Stupid cartridge batteries...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 07, 2010, 05:08:13 PM
Yes, indeed. Luckily for me, I remember my team on Gold... but not silver.

You should see the Bulbapedia page when im done with it... then you can see my victorious teams from when you were two and three years old!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 07, 2010, 05:42:49 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 07, 2010, 04:59:43 PMWhat is really strange is that my Pokemon Red, Blue and Yellow still have their save states, but the internal battery is dead on my Silver and Gold... strange, huh?

Not strange at all, seeing as how Blue/Red/Yellow's batteries will never die unless they malfunction by a fluke. Gold/Silver/Crystal had a time battery that needs to keep running even while the game is off... so it will run dry eventually.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 07, 2010, 05:55:22 PM
that's what I figured. Crystal still works, though! I'm gonna buy that special screwdriver to open up the games and replace the batteries, so I can play G/S again... I just want the classic feel, but man were the PC boxes SOOOO primitive and hard to work (cause I've been spoiled by the touch screen box in HG/SS)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on August 07, 2010, 05:59:01 PM
I wish my gameboy colour stick worked. the d-pad is messed up and you'd have to like push really hard on the left.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 07, 2010, 06:01:53 PM
both of mine still work!  ;D One just has a broken speaker... my GB Pocket is in better condition than my GBC stuff
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 08, 2010, 11:24:30 AM
Hahaha, just saved my game, and I noticed something funny -

PokeDex - 15
Time - 15:15

Isn't that weird? xD

And if you ask why I only have that many registered in 15 hours, it's because my HeartGold isn't going to be a serious game, not going for PokeDex.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 08, 2010, 11:26:00 AM
are you done with Pryce yet? Cause if youre only up to Whitney or Morty, then you went REALLLY slow, Slow
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 08, 2010, 11:30:00 AM
Nah, I've been to Ecruteak, but I only have three badges...

BUT you have to take all this into account -

-I raised my Chikorita to Lv10 before bringing it to the first trainer.
-I trained a Togepi, which needed to be trained in the wild from Lv1 to Lv14.
-I raised a Smoochum, which needed to be trained in the wild from Lv1 to Lv17
-I raised an Elekid, which needed to be trained in the wild from Lv1 to Lv17
-I raised a Magby, which needed to be trained in the wild from Lv1 to Lv17
-When I got to Ecruteak, I backtracked and played Voltorb Flip for literally hours - at the moment I have some 5500 coins, and I already bought a Dratini.
-Plus I don't like speed runs
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 08, 2010, 11:32:56 AM
makes sense, then... but that should only account for around 10 hours... im not usually the speedy type, but the longest i went before my first elite four battle was around 28 hours
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 08, 2010, 11:33:53 AM
Hee hee hee, I think my longest is shorter than that... but not for long. ;)

And it'll be really long before I really beat the game (i.e., Red)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 08, 2010, 11:37:00 AM
Itll probably be 70 hours until I go and beat red
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 08, 2010, 11:38:25 AM
I beat Red pretty prematurely in SS
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 08, 2010, 11:44:14 AM
Beat Red for the 3rd time today. Wonder what he thinks about getting beaten THREE TIMES.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 08, 2010, 11:45:33 AM
he still has the determination to beat you... like Ash with Paul... haha

I may go for him tonight, after i finish off the rest of the gym leaders and the Elite Four once again
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 08, 2010, 02:22:43 PM
Sooo bored. I wish that the arrangements being released right now were some that I'd want to ply...

Beta Song 3 kept me busy for a while, admittedly.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 08, 2010, 02:29:09 PM
im doing some BIS ones tomorrow... youll wanna play those!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 08, 2010, 02:57:40 PM
Er... BIS?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 08, 2010, 03:00:41 PM
Bowser's Inside Story

Get with the acronyms, man!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 08, 2010, 03:04:46 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 08, 2010, 03:00:41 PMBowser's Inside Story

Get with the acronyms, man!
Should've said M&L:BIS
Easier to understand.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 08, 2010, 03:10:21 PM
yep... i should've, but, meh.

Im back to facing the gym leaders again! Woo! I just need my team at Lv 70 and I should be good to go!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 08, 2010, 03:11:43 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 08, 2010, 03:10:21 PMyep... i should've, but, meh.

Im back to facing the gym leaders again! Woo! I just need my team at Lv 70 and I should be good to go!
psst
lvl 100
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 08, 2010, 03:17:04 PM
thats gonna take weeks... and not to mention, im going to have to transfer a bunch of pokemanz over from SS over the course of the next week, so... yeah
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 08, 2010, 03:18:58 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 08, 2010, 03:17:04 PMthats gonna take weeks... and not to mention, im going to have to transfer a bunch of pokemanz over from SS over the course of the next week, so... yeah
All 6 of my team is lvl 100.
Why does it take you weeks? All you have to do is transfer them to Platinum/Diamond/Pearl. There's tougher Pokemon there.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 08, 2010, 03:22:37 PM
ok... itll take me a couple of days if i play for about 8 hours a day.

And the transfer process means all my SS Pokémon are being split and transfered to Platinum and HG... so that means catching a shitload of starly, pidgey, bidoof, rattata, shinx and sentret, and all that fun stuff attached to it.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperFireKirby on August 08, 2010, 03:48:59 PM
I'm giving santa a pikachu for christmas!

Just like the one you gave me?

That's right!

I'll putting it in my stocking,

he'll find it rather shocking,

because giving santa gifts is such a novelty!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 08, 2010, 03:51:54 PM
Quote from: SuperFireKirby on August 08, 2010, 03:48:59 PMI'm giving santa a pikachu for christmas!

Just like the one you gave me?

That's right!

I'll putting it in my stocking,

he'll find it rather shocking,

because giving santa gifts is such a novelty!
Sounds like a song you just changed by putting "Pikachu" in it.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperFireKirby on August 08, 2010, 03:56:31 PM
Look up "I'm giving santa a picachu for christmas". Its a real song. Off of the pokemon christmas soundtrack I'm guessing. Something like that.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 08, 2010, 03:57:48 PM
Quote from: SuperFireKirby on August 08, 2010, 03:56:31 PMLook up "I'm giving santa a picachu for christmas". Its a real song. Off of the pokemon christmas soundtrack I'm guessing. Something like that.
wat
how was I supposed to know that
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 08, 2010, 03:59:44 PM
as SFK said, it was part of the christmas album... it was released a long time ago
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperFireKirby on August 08, 2010, 04:01:07 PM
Oh yeah, yep!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 08, 2010, 04:07:24 PM
I got it with the Pokémon Hikirukana CD
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 08, 2010, 06:29:54 PM
Still playing Voltorbn Flip.

I'm officially addicted.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 08, 2010, 06:31:04 PM
Well... once you know how to play, you want to go for the Porygon!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 08, 2010, 06:32:52 PM
Don't know what to breed. I need to stop playing Pokemon.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 08, 2010, 06:34:56 PM
uh... breed a... Lugia!

Hahaha... well you could make a perfect Squirtle with near perfect IVs knows Aqua Jet or Muddy Water!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 10, 2010, 07:05:23 PM
This smogon page on Unown is hilarious
http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/unown
"I fled from the cave, eyes bleeding from unsolicited dirty images. I was so blinded by terror I tripped over a rock, fell, scraped my arms. And when I hauled myself up, there they were. Standing seductively in front of three men was chaos's mother."
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 10, 2010, 07:11:19 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

thats some pretty heady stuff!

Woo! hehe!

Theres some new info on the Pokemon.co.jp webpage... INTERACTIVE ISSHU MAP!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 10, 2010, 07:28:11 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 10, 2010, 07:11:19 PMHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

thats some pretty heady stuff!

Woo! hehe!

Theres some new info on the Pokemon.co.jp webpage... INTERACTIVE ISSHU MAP!
Saw it. Was pretty interesting.
EDIT:
Anyone done the Arceus event yet?

I AM ARCEUS!

Behold my power of Google Images and tremble before my Microsoft Screensavers!!!


If you don't get it now, you will.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 10, 2010, 09:22:12 PM
Quote from: Oni-Link on August 10, 2010, 07:28:11 PMSaw it. Was pretty interesting.
EDIT:
Anyone done the Arceus event yet?

I AM ARCEUS!

Behold my power of Google Images and tremble before my Microsoft Screensavers!!!


If you don't get it now, you will.

I am legitly ROFLing... I was just laughing during the whole time thinking "this is the one aspect that nintendo folk could have done better
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperFireKirby on August 11, 2010, 07:43:18 AM
I JUST GOT EMERALD. woot.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: dahans on August 11, 2010, 08:48:01 AM
How much did it cost?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 11, 2010, 08:52:27 AM
Quote from: dahans on August 11, 2010, 08:48:01 AMHow much did it cost?
They usually sell them at my Gamestop for $40. Dunno how much he got it for.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 11, 2010, 09:34:59 AM
If you get Emerald BRAND NEW anywhere, it is upwards of 40 dollars, but ive seen some used games go for about 25 on ebay
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 11, 2010, 09:58:06 AM
Voted Tsutarja because with all the popular stuff over the internet about him, I'd think it'd be funny if Ash got it first.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 11, 2010, 10:04:34 AM
he usually gets the grass starter of the region first anyways!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 11, 2010, 10:06:38 AM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 11, 2010, 10:04:34 AMhe usually gets the grass starter of the region first anyways!
Oh!
I just noticed that. I don't watch the show much, since most shows about Video Games are slightly advertisements.
It's a good show though.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 11, 2010, 10:28:02 AM
It is... i mean its not my favorite (taken by 30 Rock, Friends, King of the Hill and South Park), but i still watch it.

I sometimes watch the episodes from the good old days, but im more interested in sticoms and stuff
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 11, 2010, 10:37:25 AM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 11, 2010, 10:28:02 AMIt is... i mean its not my favorite (taken by 30 Rock, Friends, King of the Hill and South Park), but i still watch it.

I sometimes watch the episodes from the good old days, but im more interested in sticoms and stuff
Phew.
I thought you were going to start an argument about how shows like Transformers, Yu-Gi-Oh!, Pokemon, etcetera aren't advertisements
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 11, 2010, 10:55:42 AM
I basically hate all shows like that, except for Pokémon (since its Pokémon, ya know?)

But, it is an advertisement, just subtle for the series that its portraying (i just like it cause it adds on to in-game elements)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 11, 2010, 01:32:42 PM
Voted for Tsutaja (there is no r in it...) because a) I like him better, and b) Ash always gets Grass...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 11, 2010, 01:38:25 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 11, 2010, 01:32:42 PMVoted for Tsutaja (there is no r in it...) because a) I like him better, and b) Ash always gets Grass...

au contraire, monseiur

Tsutarja (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Tsutarja_(Pok%C3%A9mon))

Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 11, 2010, 01:41:49 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 11, 2010, 01:38:25 PMau contraire, monseiur

Tsutarja (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Tsutarja_(Pok%C3%A9mon))


Yeah, I was "Wait... isn't it Tsutaja?"
But then I Googled it to make sure.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 11, 2010, 01:42:31 PM
au contraire CONTRAIRE, monsieur

Tsutaja (http://serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon.shtml)

It all comes down to which site you trust more...or which name you like better (Tsutaja with no r is the one I like)... either way, that's not its English name, so this won't matter soon anyhow! :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 11, 2010, 01:45:11 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 11, 2010, 01:42:31 PMau contraire CONTRAIRE, monsieur

Tsutaja (http://serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon.shtml)

It all comes down to which site you trust more...or which name you like better (Tsutaja with no r is the one I like)... either way, that's not its English name, so this won't matter soon anyhow! :D
Yeah, DP is a bulbapedia person, I'm a serebii person.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 11, 2010, 01:49:03 PM
Ok, I'll take it from the perspective BOTH sites share... its Japanese name


ãƒ,,ã,¿ãƒ¼ã,¸ãƒ£, Ill break it down from here
TSU TA - JYA

Now the dash is what makes things interesting, meaning that it makes the TA have a long a sound... another japanese rule states that when a combination of TA-JYA or TE-JYO or anything that has a long vowel for the first syllable and then a combination, makes another consonant sound preset by what the preceding syllable. So,

It is spelt Tsutaja, but is PRONOUNCED Tsutarja. That's where the mixup is!

Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 11, 2010, 01:50:01 PM
Hehehe

Got it. I'll always call it Tsutaja when I talk about it, though... the name has already stuck! :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 11, 2010, 01:51:14 PM
What about when an english name comes up?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on August 11, 2010, 01:52:04 PM
It has to be Smugleaf. Just look at it!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 11, 2010, 01:53:17 PM
It does seem a bit happy.

Im still sticking with Pokabu <3
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 11, 2010, 02:10:50 PM
That needs to be PORKabu... xD

And smug doesn't mean just happy... it means RUDE happy. Like, "I'm right and you're wrong"...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 11, 2010, 02:14:14 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 11, 2010, 02:10:50 PMThat needs to be PORKabu... xD

And smug doesn't mean just happy... it means RUDE happy. Like, "I'm right and you're wrong"...
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffc03.deviantart.net%2Ffs70%2Fi%2F2010%2F149%2F2%2Ff%2FThe_Grasshole_show_1_by_YattaroSB.png&hash=6a0182a60170e4850ca7942dd0abd38d1a540467)

The series is called the Grasshole Show. Someone makes it on DeviantArt. There's 3 so far.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 11, 2010, 02:24:05 PM
smug is used more as a sarcastic smile!

and Oni, that comic is telling the truth!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 11, 2010, 02:49:55 PM
THAT was the most hilarious thing I've ever read.

And that is also why I never criticize Pokemon if I can help it - I'm still gonna be playing it! Come on!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 11, 2010, 03:08:10 PM
I do have to admit, when I was a Freshman and Sophomore in High School, I LOATHED Pokémon... I thought that Diamond and Pearl were just stupid and the Pokémon people just needed to jump up their asses and die, but I've since reformed! Now, I'm going in circles beating the Elite Four in HG and too lazy to unpack my Wii
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 11, 2010, 03:09:07 PM
I wish I knew how to get diamond dust on Mt. Silver... I've seen it before, but all the dates I find don't work...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 11, 2010, 03:11:50 PM
Quote from: Oni-Link on August 11, 2010, 03:09:07 PMI wish I knew how to get diamond dust on Mt. Silver... I've seen it before, but all the dates I find don't work...

Have you tried doing it from a Japanese version?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 11, 2010, 03:12:57 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 11, 2010, 03:11:50 PMHave you tried doing it from a Japanese version?
No, but I want to know if there's a way to do it on the English version.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 11, 2010, 03:17:58 PM
I have no clue about that one
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 11, 2010, 06:49:22 PM
In D/P/Pt, it's in Snowpoint City on January 12, creator's birthday or something. Have you tried January 12? :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 11, 2010, 06:51:43 PM
Junichi Masuda or Satoshi Tijari?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 11, 2010, 06:52:35 PM
Masuda, I think. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 11, 2010, 06:55:26 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 11, 2010, 06:52:35 PMMasuda, I think. :P
I thought about trying it, but I wasn't sure. I'll try it later tonight, I'm trying to beat my records in Battle Tower.

Maybe it works if I set it to 2009, 10-10...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 11, 2010, 08:50:46 PM
when you reset the clock, you need to wait 48 hours for it to come into effect, so back it up 2 or 3 days to try it!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 11, 2010, 09:14:36 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 11, 2010, 08:50:46 PMwhen you reset the clock, you need to wait 48 hours for it to come into effect, so back it up 2 or 3 days to try it!
How'd you figure that out?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 11, 2010, 09:28:46 PM
It happens to be something normal. The game knows you changed the clock. When you switch the DS time, then the game will think "huh? Why is the DS clock earlier than the previous save data?" and will do into a secret mode that doesn't affect the UI that will reset daily events and other new things (like the daily swarm Pokémon) for another 48 hours

Oh, and I was once a part-time bug tester for DS games for Nintendo (I did Phantom Hourglass and Pokémon Diamond)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperFireKirby on August 12, 2010, 09:50:55 AM
Quote from: dahans on August 11, 2010, 08:48:01 AMHow much did it cost?
Sorry for not responding. I got it from a friend for $10. At the Gamestop where I live they're $30 used though.


Anyways... what pokemon would you say are the best to get and lvl up when starting out. I'm not familiar with all these pokemons.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 12, 2010, 10:59:01 AM
Quote from: SuperFireKirby on August 12, 2010, 09:50:55 AMSorry for not responding. I got it from a friend for $10. At the Gamestop where I live they're $30 used though.


Anyways... what pokemon would you say are the best to get and lvl up when starting out. I'm not familiar with all these pokemons.

It depends on the game. If youre talking about Emerald, your best bet is to get Ralts, found on the route before Petalburg city or Poochyena (its evolution, Mightyena has fairly moderate stats). Lotad can be cool when it evolves into Ludicolo down the road and Wurmples evolve fast into Beautifly and Dustox. But the really powerful ones here is Ralts. Its rare, but when you catch it, you can use it the rest of the game!

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Hoenn_Route_102

If you wanna compare stats, just click on the Pokémon name and take a look at their base stats!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 12, 2010, 01:40:39 PM
I myself do usually go for Ralts. Aron is the real powerhouse - available for capture on the second floor of the Granite Cave in Dewford Town. Whismur, a really weird-looking pink rabbit...thing is also good at its final stage. For Electric, go Electrike - look for them just north of Slateport City. Fire, go for Numel - the best Fire-type in the game besides Blaziken. Find them in the Fiery Pass above Mauville City. Water, Lotad is good as it's also a Grass-type... Sharpedo, Tentacruel, Crawdaunt, and Whiscash (and Swampert!) are good Waters. For Grass, my personal favorite is Cacnea - it evolves into a Dark- and Grass-type called Cacturne that has amazing Attack and Sp. Attack (find Cacnea in the desert).

Sorry if this is no help at all. :) Those are my opinions though.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 12, 2010, 01:53:07 PM
Quote from: SuperFireKirby on August 12, 2010, 09:50:55 AMSorry for not responding. I got it from a friend for $10. At the Gamestop where I live they're $30 used though.


Anyways... what pokemon would you say are the best to get and lvl up when starting out. I'm not familiar with all these pokemons.

also, who'd you start out with?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperFireKirby on August 12, 2010, 03:13:42 PM
I went with Treecko. So far I've caught a few pokemon but right now the only one I'm actually working on as a perminent member of my team is Abra.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 12, 2010, 03:17:00 PM
Alakazam will make a perfect team member... you should teach it Shadow Ball since there is a Psychic gym in the game.

You should get a Water Pokémon early on for surfing, because it is an integral part of the game this time around and you'll need some high level Pokémon at the same time (without being able to switch at a given moment)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperFireKirby on August 12, 2010, 03:28:42 PM
I know how to play pokemon very well, especially when its comes to making balanced teams. Its just I've been hit with two generations of pokemon and moves that I've never heard of before.

I have an unbeatable team on my blue version consisting of Blastoise, Alakazam, Jolteon, and Nidoking.

Blastoise beats fire, rock, dragon, and even grass.(I've taught it ice moves)

Alakazam beats fighting, ghost, poison, grass, and rock.

Jolteon beats water, ice, and bird.

Nidoking is just an all around powerhouse.


I'm thinking for this game I'll go with grass, psychic, electric, water, and maybe dragon. Good idea?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 12, 2010, 03:34:36 PM
you still got one more slot open. you may need some ground moves to beat wattson, some fighting moves for norman, some ghost/dark/bug moves for tate and liza, sceptile should be great against juan. but the only problem you might run into is Glacia and Drake in the elite four they are Ice and Dragon respectively. You should get a Snorunt or Spheal (spheal is dual water/ice) like Seel/Dewgong... if you can venture into Shoal Cave, because it can REALLY help you against Drake, but you may need some firepower for Glacia. For Dragon, you can't even reach Bagon until after you beat Juan and ready for the elite four (meaning a crapload of more training on your part if you want a good Salamence) but if you can catch Swablu west of Fallarbor Town, Altaria can really pack a punch! (except itll be weak to Glacia).
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 12, 2010, 03:39:27 PM
I think Ice is pretty good, since a lot of people use dragons.

Ice type affects:
Grass, Ground, Flying, and Dragon.

You can OHKO a Salamance with like, Ice Beam.

I think it's a good choice.

OR IF YOU DON'T WANT TO FOCUS ON JUST TYPES YOU COULD TRY TO FOCUS ON STATS.

Or are stats to complicated, that you can't have a well balanced team of one that's defense, one that's a attack, and one that's (Sp)Atk/(Sp)Def+Speed?


My team is like that, I don't focus on "Types". To me, that's not what makes a team balanced.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperFireKirby on August 12, 2010, 03:46:49 PM
Well for Glacia and Drake, Electric should take care of Glacia's ice pokemon and a water pokemon with some ice moves will take care of Drake's dragons. Wattson may be a problem, but the treeko>sceptile can learn graound moves so I'm alright there. And Juan will be taken care of with an electric pokemon as well as sceptile.

So far I'd say the team I'm aiming for is good. But I'm thinking in a gen 1 sense anything change that would make what I've just layed not possible? Ex. OMG SFK! ICE ISN'T WEAK AGAINST ELECTRIC ANYMORE! U SO DUMB!!!

And I also focus on stats making sure I don't and up with a situation where pokemon are heavy on attck power and super weak on defense. I try to keep that balanced as well while making sure I have types that can own almost any kind of pokemon.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 12, 2010, 03:56:08 PM
Erm, Ice was never weak to electric... It was just that all Ice-types (except Jynx) were paired with a type that's weak to Electric...

o_o
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 12, 2010, 04:37:39 PM
Quote from: SuperFireKirby on August 12, 2010, 03:46:49 PMWell for Glacia and Drake, Electric should take care of Glacia's ice pokemon and a water pokemon with some ice moves will take care of Drake's dragons. Wattson may be a problem, but the treeko>sceptile can learn graound moves so I'm alright there. And Juan will be taken care of with an electric pokemon as well as sceptile.

So far I'd say the team I'm aiming for is good. But I'm thinking in a gen 1 sense anything change that would make what I've just layed not possible? Ex. OMG SFK! ICE ISN'T WEAK AGAINST ELECTRIC ANYMORE! U SO DUMB!!!

And I also focus on stats making sure I don't and up with a situation where pokemon are heavy on attck power and super weak on defense. I try to keep that balanced as well while making sure I have types that can own almost any kind of pokemon.

U NOT SO DUMB!!11! ahaha. Electric should do wonders against Glacia's Walrein. Maybe you can teach your water pokemon (whatever it may be) to know Ice Beam. Definitely EV train your Pokémon. I'm doing that for my restart on Soul Silver! You can now look up your Pokémon's nature on Serebii or Bulbapedia and see what stat wont grow as much as the others (unless its one of the five that doesnt change)

Do you have a rough team that youre planning on following through with to Wallace?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 13, 2010, 02:26:43 PM
I somehow beat a Hitmonlee with my Tyarnitar with Stone Edge (Not very effective) before it had time to use a fighting type move on TTar.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 13, 2010, 02:37:15 PM
I should really play my HeartGold more. I'm about to face Morty... but I need to train. lol.

1300th post, btw. Hooray.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 13, 2010, 02:43:53 PM
Congrats... I just love it when im busy! Transferring 72 Pokémon from SS!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 13, 2010, 02:48:28 PM
I can't wait for the Celebi event, that hasn't been announced yet.
Too bad Japan gets it first ='(
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 13, 2010, 02:55:14 PM
So you can battle Giovanni?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 13, 2010, 03:35:17 PM
Yeah, but mostly for the Celebi.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 13, 2010, 03:45:14 PM
Celebi is the cutest legendary...right up there with Jirachi... but no one else thinks Jirachi is very cute, lol.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 13, 2010, 03:48:54 PM
UGH! Cute!

You know who I think is cool... the MANLY Groudon (who may have a beard)

Hahaha.
(this is a joke not to affend the effeminate ones... if there are any)

Anyways, anyone know if you can breed a Lapras. I wanna get some egg moves into one, and make near perfect IVs so I can beat read once again without having to use 25 revives
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 13, 2010, 03:50:36 PM
(Bragging alert)

I had to use zero Revives when I beat Red with a team of Pokemon all level 70... Hooray!

(I did warn you)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 13, 2010, 04:26:47 PM
Quote from: Oni-Link on August 13, 2010, 02:48:28 PMI can't wait for the Celebi event, that hasn't been announced yet.
Too bad Japan gets it first ='(

I have one from Japan. Could clone it or something.

Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 13, 2010, 03:48:54 PMUGH! Cute!

You know who I think is cool... the MANLY Groudon (who may have a beard)

Hahaha.
(this is a joke not to affend the effeminate ones... if there are any)

Anyways, anyone know if you can breed a Lapras. I wanna get some egg moves into one, and make near perfect IVs so I can beat read once again without having to use 25 revives

Yep, you can. It's in the monster/water 1 egg group IIRC.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 13, 2010, 04:37:27 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on August 13, 2010, 04:26:47 PMI have one from Japan. Could clone it or something.

Yep, you can. It's in the monster/water 1 egg group IIRC.

Tanks Roz!

(and welcome back!)

I may teach it Outrage or Zen Headbutt from breeding it with something else... not sure what move to use tho
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 13, 2010, 05:10:24 PM
Outrage and Zen Headbutt are Move Tutors moves, so you don't have to breed to get them. As for Egg Moves, Dragon Dance/Sleep Talk/Curse are all useful moves.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 13, 2010, 05:27:41 PM
I was thinking of doing Curse with Umbreon, then tie it with Payback

But I can Move Tutor Outrage to a compatible breeding Pokémon with Lapras, and then use it! Unless Outrage isnt valid as an eggmove, because Charmander can learn it as an egg move
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 13, 2010, 06:23:45 PM
Diamond dust finally worked. Thanks DP.
Looks as if the weather is little clumps of pixels that are lagging :/
STILL COOL
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 13, 2010, 06:34:36 PM
Anyone knows when does Pokemon air on TV Tokyo or any other channels? Feel like watching it.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 13, 2010, 06:35:54 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on August 13, 2010, 06:34:36 PMAnyone knows when does Pokemon air on TV Tokyo or any other channels? Feel like watching it.
What?
Are you saying you have TV Tokyo or something?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 13, 2010, 06:36:27 PM
See! You just need a time reset! C'est mon plaisir!

And I will reveal the first three letters of the 3rd Pokémon on my SS team. This may or may not be a cliché for me (but not for previous HG/SS games)

GIR


Roz: It airs Thursday Nights on TV Tokyo, so you can't get it until Friday morning here in the states. You can find them posted to youtube (the latest one was posted yesterday. Just Google DP187)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 13, 2010, 06:44:13 PM
Quote from: Oni-Link on August 13, 2010, 06:35:54 PMWhat?
Are you saying you have TV Tokyo or something?

You could say that.


Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 13, 2010, 06:36:27 PMSee! You just need a time reset! C'est mon plaisir!

And I will reveal the first three letters of the 3rd Pokémon on my SS team. This may or may not be a cliché for me (but not for previous HG/SS games)

GIR


Roz: It airs Thursday Nights on TV Tokyo, so you can't get it until Friday morning here in the states. You can find them posted to youtube (the latest one was posted yesterday. Just Google DP187)

I don't want to watch them after, I want to watch them live.
Also, Girafarig?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 13, 2010, 06:46:30 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on August 13, 2010, 06:44:13 PMYou could say that.
Details? Do you see it on your computer or...?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 13, 2010, 06:47:08 PM
Well... if you can GET TV Tokyo (it airs at 7 PM in Japan)

But, if youre on Eastern Time, its 5 AM, if youre on Atlantic Time, its 6 AM

I cant watch it unless I stay up until 2 AM

But I would like to know how you get it, and yes Girafarig is Correct -ding ding ding ding dingggggg!!!!-
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 13, 2010, 06:51:45 PM
Quote from: Oni-Link on August 13, 2010, 06:46:30 PMDetails? Do you see it on your computer or...?

Yeah. I have a program on my computer which allows me to watch a lot of japanese tv channels, like Fuji TV, TV Tokyo, TBS, etc. I can also listen to radio stations.

Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 13, 2010, 06:47:08 PMWell... if you can GET TV Tokyo (it airs at 7 PM in Japan)

But, if youre on Eastern Time, its 5 AM, if youre on Atlantic Time, its 6 AM

I cant watch it unless I stay up until 2 AM

But I would like to know how you get it, and yes Girafarig is Correct -ding ding ding ding dingggggg!!!!-

Hmm, then I could probably watch it knowing I'm an insomniac person. Thanks.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 13, 2010, 06:53:02 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on August 13, 2010, 06:51:45 PMYeah. I have a program on my computer which allows me to watch a lot of japanese tv channels, like Fuji TV, TV Tokyo, TBS, etc. I can also listen to radio stations.

Hmm, then I could probably watch it knowing I'm an insomniac person. Thanks.

Last night I got yelled at for staying up past 2 AM, so that wasnt good. I was working on something important, too!

What program do you use cause iWant!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 13, 2010, 06:58:35 PM
I'll post the download link when I find it. I've had this program for quite a while now, so I don't remember exactly where I downloaded it. And I just saw the weirdest pizza/cereal ads ever.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 13, 2010, 07:06:25 PM
So Girafarig is G... (I would've guessed Giratina, but I guess you all were just obsessing over Girafarig...)

what's another one?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 13, 2010, 07:14:35 PM
Sno

THATS IT!!! This one is gonna have some special moves from the move tutor!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 13, 2010, 07:16:13 PM
BTW, I'm guessing Lapras because you asked about breeding him...

Sno...Sno... o__o
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 13, 2010, 07:17:26 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 13, 2010, 07:16:13 PMSno...Sno... o__o
What's with the o__o
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 13, 2010, 07:20:12 PM
I don't know... I'm trying to think, but Snover is stuck in my head. It's probably pronounced SNAH, not SNOW, though, for whatever it is... o__o
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 13, 2010, 07:29:34 PM
^Snorlax?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 13, 2010, 07:29:58 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 13, 2010, 07:16:13 PMBTW, I'm guessing Lapras because you asked about breeding him...

Sno...Sno... o__o

Could be... or maybe I just want it for HG and make a new team to beat red.

Keep thinking Snow, and maybe you may get an AH HA moment!

EDIT: F you Roz! Jk. You are the points leader with 2 and Slow is coming up in second with 1 and Oni isnt in this game yet.

Whoever gets the most points by the time the G/S Medley comes out, gets some special GS Medley stuff that's being released with the sheet... whoops, ive said too much
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 13, 2010, 07:30:15 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on August 13, 2010, 07:29:34 PM^Snorlax?

(smacks forehead)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 13, 2010, 07:33:05 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 13, 2010, 07:30:15 PM(smacks forehead)

Had you with that one. hahah. any other guesses (btw, you got lapras)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 13, 2010, 08:02:56 PM
Crobat?
Charizard?
Clefable?
Cloyster?
Corsola?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 13, 2010, 08:30:14 PM
Oh no... you can only guess one


I forgot to say, if you guess wrong, you lose all your points!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 13, 2010, 08:36:21 PM
Why'd you change the poll?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 13, 2010, 08:38:07 PM
Cause I felt like it. We all know about it... its Ash, DUH!

Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperFireKirby on August 14, 2010, 08:27:17 AM
Not me. Seeing as I realized the show was progressively getting worse and worse from its once awesome state of being, and then stopped watching it.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 14, 2010, 09:09:54 AM
Everyone's voted Tsutaja so far \o/
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 14, 2010, 09:18:33 AM
Quote from: Oni-Link on August 14, 2010, 09:09:54 AMEveryone's voted Tsutaja so far \o/

Wrong. :3
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 14, 2010, 09:24:52 AM
Quote from: Roz~ on August 14, 2010, 09:18:33 AMWrong. :3
Notice the "so far"
Apparently the time that comment was posted and before.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 14, 2010, 10:54:53 AM
Im going with Pokabu, but when I see the other two evolutions, ill make my decision which other starter to train in the other game!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 14, 2010, 03:38:16 PM
I'm really bored, so I'm going to post something very controversial and hope it sparks fireworks.

Er... anyone have a very controversial Pokemon topic? Dx
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 14, 2010, 03:39:41 PM
My Magikarp can beat your Salamence any day (will that work)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 14, 2010, 03:42:26 PM
Well my Magikarp can beat your Magikarp.
And my Ditto can beat your Ditto.

(Also, did you know, if you play the radio before the Lake of Rage's Team Rocket radio signal is turned off, your Magikarp evolves early?)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 14, 2010, 03:44:54 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 14, 2010, 03:39:41 PMMy Magikarp can beat your Salamence any day (will that work)

Nah, something really controversial. Like, I don't know. Someone coming on and posting "Sinnoh sucks! Kanto was the best! There are no Pokemon besides the 150 REAL Pokemon and there never will be!"

And everyone takes sides to either agree or say that the new games are great and you're an idiot and if you like the original games so much then go play them.

Either way, it usually spawns really long, heated conversations filled with evidence and reasoning.

Here, though, everyone (except KF, of course) is pretty mellow, so I doubt anyone would get seriously mad.

Anyway, I want to know your opinions, now that I think of it: Which is better, the new or old regions? (Counting Kanto as old, Sinnoh as new, and Johto/Hoenn as anything you like)

I'll post my opinions later... ;P

Quote from: Oni-Link on August 14, 2010, 03:42:26 PMWell my Magikarp can beat your Magikarp.
And my Ditto can beat your Ditto.

(Also, did you know, if you play the radio before the Lake of Rage's Team Rocket radio signal is turned off, your Magikarp evolves early?)

That's really cool! What level?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 14, 2010, 03:52:03 PM
Heres something controversial

SLOWPOKE SUCKS!

Also, I like all the regions... in terms of geographical things and whatnot.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 14, 2010, 03:53:40 PM
Hmm. Obviously Slowpoke is not AMAZING, but I don't think it sucks when compared to Pokemon like Dunsparce (sorry Oni!) or Beautifly/Dustox. (Random examples, I know!)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 14, 2010, 04:02:07 PM
Watching Pokemon Sunday. That show's effin weird.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 14, 2010, 04:02:35 PM
Its ok... you are taking it a bit to rough. It is just a joke. Slowpoke in my book is... ok, i guess

Also, Kotone has delivered the Pokémon Egg to Professor Elm. In 30 minutes, I have a level 12 Chikorita. Woo!


Pokémon Sunday is pretty weird. Anything new from B/W?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 14, 2010, 04:06:54 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 14, 2010, 04:02:35 PMIts ok... you are taking it a bit to rough. It is just a joke. Slowpoke in my book is... ok, i guess

Also, Kotone has delivered the Pokémon Egg to Professor Elm. In 30 minutes, I have a level 12 Chikorita. Woo!


Pokémon Sunday is pretty weird. Anything new from B/W?

Not yet. They have children wearing Celebi suits carrying water at the moment.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 14, 2010, 04:10:40 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 14, 2010, 03:53:40 PMHmm. Obviously Slowpoke is not AMAZING, but I don't think it sucks when compared to Pokemon like Dunsparce (sorry Oni!) or Beautifly/Dustox. (Random examples, I know!)
No, no.
I just thought it'd be cool if Dunsparce evolved into like, a Legendary or something.
666 max stats in all areas.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 14, 2010, 04:25:55 PM
Quote from: Oni-Link on August 14, 2010, 04:10:40 PMNo, no.
I just thought it'd be cool if Dunsparce evolved into like, a Legendary or something.
666 max stats in all areas.

That's not legendary, thats just plain evil  ;)

Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperRiolu on August 14, 2010, 11:57:48 PM
I have never really been a fan of Dunsparce. Rock Pokémon can be pretty awesome, though. There defense stat is pretty high, but lack in speed.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 15, 2010, 09:20:46 AM
Quote from: SuperRiolu on August 14, 2010, 11:57:48 PMI have never really been a fan of Dunsparce. Rock Pokémon can be pretty awesome, though. There defense stat is pretty high, but lack in speed.

That's why using them in Trick Room teams makes them so awesome.
Also, shiny Dunsparce with max IVs everywhere can be deadly.
And I'm going to breed a Shuckle just 'cause its awesome.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 15, 2010, 11:26:13 AM
YES! It is!

Are you going to go for a power trick shuckle or an annoying defensive shuckle?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 15, 2010, 11:53:06 AM
I vote annoying defensive one... just dont use it on me :)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Oni-Link on August 15, 2010, 11:55:53 AM
We have a tie.
EDIT:
Currently :|
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on August 15, 2010, 12:04:56 PM
Hmm... Power Trick Shuckle needs Trick Room support to do any good. As it can't learn Trick Room itself, it means that two of the five turns it's active is spent setting up and switching into Shuckle. Another turn is spent using Power Trick. That leaves you with two turns worth of sweeping. Shuckle also does not resist any priority moves save for Fake Out, Quick Attack and ExtremeSpeed, and are actually weak to Aqua Jet and Bullet Punch, two of the most used priority moves. Thus, you end up with a near-useless Shuckle who also is vulnerable to opponents.

I'd say a defensive Shuckle is more effective. Go for that.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperRiolu on August 15, 2010, 12:22:47 PM
I agree with Cobraroll. Trick Room doesn't necessarily block any of the priority moves from happening, it's just for normal moves and inverting it so the slower Pokémon goes first using a normal move. If you create a super-defensive Shuckle (which I did in my Argent SoulSilver game, using this thing called a RNG), then you can just "rollout" until every trainer is defeated (though not necessarily using rollout)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 15, 2010, 01:28:50 PM
As if we didn't know what RNGing is! xD

EDIT: I also vote Defensive Shuckle, UNLESS you do this:

Use the first Pokemon in your party with Trick Room, next turn use Explosion (Bronzong is the example I'm thinking of, but there are many others). Then send out Shuckle with Power Trick (I'm assuming Explosion killed the opponent) and HAVE IT HOLD FOCUS SASH

If you do, even if you're attacked with Bullet Punch (I'm not counting Aqua Jet because its Sp. Def stays the same) then it won't die.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 15, 2010, 03:43:14 PM
So, I'll be releasing my SS team currently. Bulbapedia won't update until all 6 have reached final evolutionary forms.

Currently, in final forms, I have Snorlax, Girafarig, Lapras and Umbreon. The final 2 will come when reached!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 15, 2010, 04:25:55 PM
Quote from: SuperRiolu on August 15, 2010, 12:22:47 PMI agree with Cobraroll. Trick Room doesn't necessarily block any of the priority moves from happening, it's just for normal moves and inverting it so the slower Pokémon goes first using a normal move. If you create a super-defensive Shuckle (which I did in my Argent SoulSilver game, using this thing called a RNG), then you can just "rollout" until every trainer is defeated (though not necessarily using rollout)

Don't think you can teach us anything about Pokemon. I, as well as the rest of the people here, already know a lot.  Sorry if it sounds rude, I don't mean to, but that's just how it is.

Quote from: Cobraroll on August 15, 2010, 12:04:56 PMHmm... Power Trick Shuckle needs Trick Room support to do any good. As it can't learn Trick Room itself, it means that two of the five turns it's active is spent setting up and switching into Shuckle. Another turn is spent using Power Trick. That leaves you with two turns worth of sweeping. Shuckle also does not resist any priority moves save for Fake Out, Quick Attack and ExtremeSpeed, and are actually weak to Aqua Jet and Bullet Punch, two of the most used priority moves. Thus, you end up with a near-useless Shuckle who also is vulnerable to opponents.

I'd say a defensive Shuckle is more effective. Go for that.

Yeah, I planned on breeding a defensive one. And even if there are a lot of priority moves out there, Trick Room teams can be deadly when you're not prepared for it. It's the same as Rain Dance/Sunny Day/Hail/Sandstorm teams. You can easily be swept when you don't know how to deal with them.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperRiolu on August 15, 2010, 11:51:08 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on August 15, 2010, 04:25:55 PMDon't think you can teach us anything about Pokemon. I, as well as the rest of the people here, already know a lot.  Sorry if it sounds rude, I don't mean to, but that's just how it is.

Yeah, I planned on breeding a defensive one. And even if there are a lot of priority moves out there, Trick Room teams can be deadly when you're not prepared for it. It's the same as Rain Dance/Sunny Day/Hail/Sandstorm teams. You can easily be swept when you don't know how to deal with them.

No, it isn't rude at all! It means now I can talk with people who know a lot like Pokémon  ;D. Most of my friends who I play Pokémon with don't have any idea what a RNG is.

I can't wait for Pokémon Noir et Blanc! I still think Noir sounds so much better than black!!

Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 16, 2010, 05:24:43 AM
Quote from: SuperRiolu on August 15, 2010, 11:51:08 PMNo, it isn't rude at all! It means now I can talk with people who know a lot like Pokémon  ;D. Most of my friends who I play Pokémon with don't have any idea what a RNG is.

I can't wait for Pokémon Noir et Blanc! I still think Noir sounds so much better than black!!



Good to see you take it that way. :P I'm a lot into RNG too, but since I work 6 days a week I don't really have time to breed anything at the moment. >_< And I don't know, even though my mother tongue's French, I really do prefer English. I guess it's because people around me have a tendency to butcher it.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 16, 2010, 09:25:17 AM
Quote from: Roz~ on August 16, 2010, 05:24:43 AMGood to see you take it that way. :P I'm a lot into RNG too, but since I work 6 days a week I don't really have time to breed anything at the moment. >_< And I don't know, even though my mother tongue's French, I really do prefer English. I guess it's because people around me have a tendency to butcher it.

And even though my native language is english, i hate how people butcher the french language... even im not as good as you and Riolu!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperRiolu on August 16, 2010, 09:36:11 AM
Quote from: Roz~ on August 16, 2010, 05:24:43 AMGood to see you take it that way. :P I'm a lot into RNG too, but since I work 6 days a week I don't really have time to breed anything at the moment. >_< And I don't know, even though my mother tongue's French, I really do prefer English. I guess it's because people around me have a tendency to butcher it.

I, unfortunately, have to speak more english. my parents speak a lot of english (well, my dad is American) and they have to for work. For my age, my english is pretty well advanced for being from a country that ONLY speaks French. Work hinders fun, IMO.When I leave from university, I'm going out on my own, or with a small group of people (so I can pick my hours). Currently, I'm RNG-ing a Shiny Surskit with near perfect IVs. Ill let ya know how they turn out

Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 16, 2010, 09:25:17 AMAnd even though my native language is english, i hate how people butcher the french language... even im not as good as you and Riolu!


people who visit here do the same thing... especially Americans.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on August 16, 2010, 09:53:02 AM
Out of sheer boredom respect for the language and a desire not to butcher it, I decided to quit French as soon as I had the chance. If English and mimicry can't help me out of a situation, I'm pretty sure French can't either.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 16, 2010, 09:56:04 AM
Well... 25% of english is made up of french! you cant go wrong there  ;D

In Gaming News:

I have beat Whitney with Level 20 Pokémon... all 6 of 'em! Woo!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperFireKirby on August 16, 2010, 12:00:10 PM
English is actually a language of Germanic origin. But we do take bits and peices from latin based languages such as french and spanish.

You would call a person who speak 2 languages bilingual. You would call a person who speaks 3 languages trilingual.

But what do you call someone who speaks only one language?

American.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 16, 2010, 12:40:14 PM
Quote from: SuperFireKirby on August 16, 2010, 12:00:10 PMEnglish is actually a language of Germanic origin. But we do take bits and peices from latin based languages such as french and spanish.

You would call a person who speak 2 languages bilingual. You would call a person who speaks 3 languages trilingual.

But what do you call someone who speaks only one language?

American.

Because most Americans can barely grasp the true essence of the English Language.

And I know about being Bilingual. I AM BILINGUAL! I still make some grammatical errors in my second language, its just not what im used to! (and Roz can scoff at my remarks and fix 'em up all nice)... understanding is the easy part!

And I also know about the Germanic Origins. I spent about three months studying Beowolf and the Canterbury Tales, some in the original Anglo-Saxon language (which is extremely easy once you can adapt it to modern English).

Anyone have a good Pokémon topic?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperRiolu on August 16, 2010, 01:16:14 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 16, 2010, 12:40:14 PMAnyone have a good Pokémon topic?

I am plumb out. You guys have already answered what I was planning on asking.

How about, if you had to choose another season of anime (excluding the the original, orange league and johto), which season would you choose and why! I'll leave you all with that
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 16, 2010, 01:35:48 PM
You mean as my favorite? Definitely Pokemon Advanced (not sure the season number, maybe 5?). It's the first Hoenn one, anyway. I love the theme song and May/Max were good refreshers for Misty.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 16, 2010, 01:45:19 PM
I like the newer ones (please dont kill me). They are in HD (something I have been waiting for, for a while)

But my favorite from the original definitely has to be Battle Frontier (season 10, I believe)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 16, 2010, 01:49:31 PM
It's weird, I never saw anything of that season, except where Ash faces Agatha.

And I'm not killing you. But I will say that the first Diamond/Pearl season was FAAAR better than the others. Now I can't even stand to watch the new episodes.

Dawn's grown quite annoying to me, I'm sorry to say! xD

Hopefully Belle won't be as bad!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 16, 2010, 02:00:43 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 16, 2010, 01:49:31 PMIt's weird, I never saw anything of that season, except where Ash faces Agatha.

And I'm not killing you. But I will say that the first Diamond/Pearl season was FAAAR better than the others. Now I can't even stand to watch the new episodes.

Dawn's grown quite annoying to me, I'm sorry to say! xD

Hopefully Belle won't be as bad!

Who is this Belle you speak of? You might be alluding to Iris?

Dawn has gotten kinda annoying, too. I cant believe there is still a Grand Festival AND the Pokémon League thing. I'll find out Thursday who beats who in the battle!

Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 16, 2010, 03:19:21 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 16, 2010, 09:25:17 AMAnd even though my native language is english, i hate how people butcher the french language... even im not as good as you and Riolu!


Kinda like me who hates when people butcher English... probably because I kinda grew up in an "English world".
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 16, 2010, 03:21:38 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on August 16, 2010, 03:19:21 PMKinda like me who hates when people butcher English... probably because I kinda grew up in an "English world".

I butchering language of the english long time. hahaha. It kinda gets on my nerves in some cases (like telling some one how to correctly pronounce a word)... i also hate how people say "sans" the english way... the french way is how it should be pronounced!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 16, 2010, 03:24:40 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 16, 2010, 03:21:38 PMI butchering language of the english long time. hahaha. It kinda gets on my nerves in some cases (like telling some one how to correctly pronounce a word)... i also hate how people say "sans" the english way... the french way is how it should be pronounced!

Haha, I feel like that too. People around here use a lot of English words and pronounce them with a French accent... and it just sounds horrible.

Also, gonna breed that damn Shuckle today. I should have time to do that tonight.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 16, 2010, 03:26:32 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 16, 2010, 02:00:43 PMWho is this Belle you speak of? You might be alluding to Iris?

I'm not talking about the stupid anime! :D

I'm talking about in B/W versions, one of your childhood friends and rivals is called Belle!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 16, 2010, 03:27:51 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on August 16, 2010, 03:24:40 PMHaha, I feel like that too. People around here use a lot of English words and pronounce them with a French accent... and it just sounds horrible.

Also, gonna breed that damn Shuckle today. I should have time to do that tonight.

yay, time! Bon Chance!

Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 16, 2010, 03:26:32 PMI'm not talking about the stupid anime! :D

I'm talking about in B/W versions, one of your childhood friends and rivals is called Belle!

They've released her english name?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 16, 2010, 03:29:09 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 16, 2010, 03:27:51 PMyay, time! Bon Chance!

They've released her english name?

Bonne chance, chance is a feminine noun. :)
And I think it's her Japanese name.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 16, 2010, 03:31:46 PM
I'm assuming, but I don't know. I'm calling her that as that is her Japanese name. This info was released quite a while ago...look on Serebii.

And here's my HeartGold team as of the moment:

Togetic Lv25
Smoochum Lv25
Elekid Lv23
Magby Lv25
Sudowoodo Lv23
AAAAAND, MY NEWEST ADDITION
Miltank Lv15

It's Lv15 because I just started training it. I was trying to decide between Miltank or Tauros (Miltank is better, IMO). I would WAY rather have Snubbull, but as it is practically impossible to find (and I don't feel like hatching another Egg from my SS) I'm training Miltank. She will face Morty...because she has the amazing Scrappy ability!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 16, 2010, 03:33:42 PM
Miltank is an awesome tank. Tauros has an awesome coverage because of its awesome movepool. Both are pretty good.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 16, 2010, 03:34:50 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on August 16, 2010, 03:29:09 PMBonne chance, chance is a feminine noun. :)
And I think it's her Japanese name.

My French teacher spelt it Bon Chance, when used as an expression, Bonne Chance is used in a sentence.

I knew it was feminine, because la France a la chance... a little phrase i made up to remember!

And, yay!

Current SS Team
[CENSORED] Lv 22
Umbreon Lv 21
Lapras Lv 22
Girafarig Lv 20
Snorlax Lv 22
[CENSORED] Lv 21
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 16, 2010, 03:36:47 PM
Yeah, Tauros is really good! I caught one with Intimidate, though... a really good ability, but I prefer Anger Point.

Plus, I was ticked that it had a timid nature... slow-rising attack doesn't sit well with Tauros.

Also, Miltank has a better move pool overall. Milk Drink is probably the best healing move in the game besides Slack Off (made better by the fact that Slowpoke learns it) and Roost.

Snubbull would have completed the "cutesy" team better, though. ;D

Also... DrP, you say it as though we're begging to know what the two censored ones are! ;D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 16, 2010, 03:38:36 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 16, 2010, 03:36:47 PMYeah, Tauros is really good! I caught one with Intimidate, though... a really good ability, but I prefer Anger Point.

Plus, I was ticked that it had a timid nature... slow-rising attack doesn't sit well with Tauros.

Also, Miltank has a better move pool overall. Milk Drink is probably the best healing move in the game besides Slack Off (made better by the fact that Slowpoke learns it) and Roost.

Snubbull would have completed the "cutesy" team better, though. ;D

Also... DrP, you say it as though we're begging to know what the two censored ones are! ;D

I know you are!!!

Miltank's "tank-ness" means it has a HIGH HP... its basically a Chansey in Cow form

Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 16, 2010, 03:40:59 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 16, 2010, 03:34:50 PMMy French teacher spelt it Bon Chance, when used as an expression, Bonne Chance is used in a sentence.

I knew it was feminine, because la France a la chance... a little phrase i made up to remember!

And, yay!

Current SS Team
[CENSORED] Lv 22
Umbreon Lv 21
Lapras Lv 22
Girafarig Lv 20
Snorlax Lv 22
[CENSORED] Lv 21

Well, you can tell your teacher that he's wrong, because "Bon chance" is not correct.  The4 only way to spell that is Bonne chance. And you should say La France a de la chance. ;)

Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 16, 2010, 03:36:47 PMYeah, Tauros is really good! I caught one with Intimidate, though... a really good ability, but I prefer Anger Point.

Plus, I was ticked that it had a timid nature... slow-rising attack doesn't sit well with Tauros.

Also, Miltank has a better move pool overall. Milk Drink is probably the best healing move in the game besides Slack Off (made better by the fact that Slowpoke learns it) and Roost.

Snubbull would have completed the "cutesy" team better, though. ;D

Also... DrP, you say it as though we're begging to know what the two censored ones are! ;D

Yeah, you sure didn't get the right nature on your Tauros. :P And I personally prefer Tauros' movepool 'cause it can hit a variety of Pokemon with super effectives moves.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 16, 2010, 03:41:33 PM
You're right.

Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 16, 2010, 03:38:36 PMI know you are!!!

Miltank's "tank-ness" means it has a HIGH HP... its basically a Chansey in Cow form



Its HP is not amazing, actually... it's true power is surprisingly in its Speed.

Go figure...

Also, this is pretty ridiculous -

 ??? (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Sprouse_brothers_to_star_in_Pok%C3%A9mon_commercial)

(Click on the smiley to go to the link... lol)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 16, 2010, 03:51:20 PM
^This makes me sad.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 16, 2010, 03:52:24 PM
I am not a fan... what are they, like sixteen or seventeen? And doing advertisements for yogurt and Pokemon games?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 16, 2010, 03:53:41 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on August 16, 2010, 03:40:59 PMWell, you can tell your teacher that he's wrong, because "Bon chance" is not correct.  The4 only way to spell that is Bonne chance. And you should say La France a de la chance. ;)


Well, I will never, ever talk to that "putain" (yes, i know its pretty bad) ever again... she made my life a living hell. She thought she was all "I know French and you don't" and we agreed, because she was from Nice and she killed the fun of learning with SOOOO much busy work. We were done with la futur in two days, and she spent two weeks covering it. I'll take la feminin from now on, since it seems like its going to be that way (trust me, my speaking is better).

But The reason why I said La france a la chance, because It CAN have all the chance in the world, not just some. But si c'est la route je dois suivre, alors, anisi soit-il!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 16, 2010, 03:56:14 PM
Quote from: Oni-Link (Future)Pokemon: French Version?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 16, 2010, 03:57:23 PM
trust me, you dont wanna know what im really talking about... even the french words sporadically blipped in there with a sentence at the end
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 16, 2010, 04:10:41 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 16, 2010, 03:57:23 PMtrust me, you dont wanna know what im really talking about... even the french words sporadically blipped in there with a sentence at the end

Hahaha, Putain's not a bad word at all. Trust me. At least it's not in Québec. It is in France IIRC. Anyway.

Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 16, 2010, 03:52:24 PMI am not a fan... what are they, like sixteen or seventeen? And doing advertisements for yogurt and Pokemon games?

They're going to ruin those games. u_u
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 16, 2010, 04:24:25 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on August 16, 2010, 04:10:41 PMHahaha, Putain's not a bad word at all. Trust me. At least it's not in Québec. It is in France IIRC. Anyway.

They're going to ruin those games. u_u

Ok... then im good -whew-. my teacher really took it personally when I was describing some woman in French History when I wrote it in a paper... I think I was talking about Marie Antoinette

How was that last sentence (i love that phrase, anisi soit-it!... oh and C'est pas de ma faute!)

And see, there are reasons WHY i disconnect myself from Disney, Slow... MANY reasons (Excessive Crowds at Disneyland, too many tourists at Disneyland, Miley Cyrus, Jonas Brothers, they have to conglomerate everything, they have to really get their name out there, they own ABC, they have to overcharge everyone for churros and bottled water, they overly hype everything, Miley Cyrus (yes she needs to be in here twice)... she is such an annoying lump of a human, they have to ruin the world, they have to ruin great video games like Pokémon, watch south park, season 12... something about absinance/chastity... that sums up only some of my disgruntling feeling towards them )
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 16, 2010, 04:25:55 PM
I used to love the Suite Life. It was a pretty funny show. Now they have that stupid "Suite Life on Deck" or "Hannah Montana" or "Sonny With a Chance"

I never watch Disney Channel anymore, unless they're showing a Tim Burton or Harry Potter movie... I like it to watch movies because they show few commercials, and no "real" commercials.

Anyway.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 16, 2010, 04:29:08 PM
I only get to see the French versions of those shows and it really is horrible. I guess it's the same thing in English anyway.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 16, 2010, 04:37:32 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on August 16, 2010, 04:29:08 PMI only get to see the French versions of those shows and it really is horrible. I guess it's the same thing in English anyway.

but its even worse...

i remember when they had good shows... even stevens... that era!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 16, 2010, 04:38:10 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 16, 2010, 04:37:32 PMbut its even worse...

i remember when they had good shows... even stevens... that era!

And That's So Raven! xD

About the topic:
Wouldn't it be cool if we could all have exactly one Pokemon? In this world? Come with you to class... on vacations... everywhere...

I would choose Slowpoke. <3

And you all? :)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 16, 2010, 04:52:31 PM
That's a pretty good question. I don't know, I'd like Arcanine and Poliwhirl. There are some others that I'd like, but those 2 really are my favorite. Along with Pokabu. Yeah, I definitely can't pick one.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 16, 2010, 04:57:54 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on August 16, 2010, 04:52:31 PMThat's a pretty good question. I don't know, I'd like Arcanine and Poliwhirl. There are some others that I'd like, but those 2 really are my favorite. Along with Pokabu. Yeah, I definitely can't pick one.

Arcanine would be pretty awesome, but it is pretty huge. I could take an Ursaring (and Ill still be taller than it)... but definitely either Umbreon or Growlithe... Pokabu would be cool, too... TOO MANY DECISIONS... ARRRRRGHHHH!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperFireKirby on August 16, 2010, 05:36:49 PM
It would be between Alakazam and Jolteon for me. Though I like Jolteon more, Alakazam could do my homework for me.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 16, 2010, 06:06:12 PM
Quote from: SuperFireKirby on August 16, 2010, 05:36:49 PMIt would be between Alakazam and Jolteon for me. Though I like Jolteon more, Alakazam could do my homework for me.

He could probably cure cancer or do something that huge... I wont need help with HW, because its just basically reading from here on out
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 16, 2010, 06:52:05 PM
Fine, let's say two.

There are indeed many choices...

Hmm. Slowpoke and...

Perhaps Leafeon? Phanpy and Teddiursa do make for the most adorable pair. xD Hmm. Misdreavus could be interesting to have around. Blissey? You'd be the healthiest person alive. Bulbasaur/Charmander/Squirtle are all so cool! Hypno? No more Insomnia (still, I think I learned from Kare's mistake). And what about baby Pokemon?

Pichu, Cleffa, Igglybuff, and Togepi obviously have the typical evolutions. Wynaut would be hilarious, same for Mime Jr. Vulpix, even cooler than Growlithe. Marill...:) Meowth, Psyduck... Smoochum, Elekid...

The list is neverending. And I only covered some of the cute ones. We could go even farther with strength. I may be taking this too seriously. But that's okay, too.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperRiolu on August 17, 2010, 07:17:29 AM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 16, 2010, 06:52:05 PMFine, let's say two.

There are indeed many choices...

Hmm. Slowpoke and...

Perhaps Leafeon? Phanpy and Teddiursa do make for the most adorable pair. xD Hmm. Misdreavus could be interesting to have around. Blissey? You'd be the healthiest person alive. Bulbasaur/Charmander/Squirtle are all so cool! Hypno? No more Insomnia (still, I think I learned from Kare's mistake). And what about baby Pokemon?

Pichu, Cleffa, Igglybuff, and Togepi obviously have the typical evolutions. Wynaut would be hilarious, same for Mime Jr. Vulpix, even cooler than Growlithe. Marill...:) Meowth, Psyduck... Smoochum, Elekid...

The list is neverending. And I only covered some of the cute ones. We could go even farther with strength. I may be taking this too seriously. But that's okay, too.

It looks like you may need the full 6!

I would probably go with Quilava and Bayleef... they are pretty awesome!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 17, 2010, 07:19:23 AM
I say we just become Pokemon trainers and catch every Pokemon we want.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Treeckodude on August 17, 2010, 07:45:36 AM
Quote from: Roz~ on August 17, 2010, 07:19:23 AMI say we just become Pokemon trainers and catch every Pokemon we want.

That's what I want. But just two...

Treecko and...
...
...I'm not sure. Probably a cute Pokemon like Pichu or Phanpy, maybe a Larvitar. I think I'll settle for...Sneasel. It's a cuter version of Weavile, and it's still awesome.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperRiolu on August 17, 2010, 08:03:59 AM
Quote from: Roz~ on August 17, 2010, 07:19:23 AMI say we just become Pokemon trainers and catch every Pokemon we want.

I will join you! It would be kind of cool, going through the countryside with Pokémon battling each other!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 17, 2010, 08:22:31 AM
Quote from: Roz~ on August 17, 2010, 07:19:23 AMI say we just become Pokemon trainers and catch every Pokemon we want.

I've been wanting to do this since day one! We just have to invent a PC storage system.

Quote from: SuperRiolu on August 17, 2010, 08:03:59 AMI will join you! It would be kind of cool, going through the countryside with Pokémon battling each other!

No countryside here, just either barren mountainous terrain or cities infested with illegal mexicans
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperRiolu on August 17, 2010, 02:08:52 PM
hahahahaha!! That's funny. Occasionally, I watch CNN World, and they mention what is going on in Arizona. Seems like a pretty heady issue

Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 17, 2010, 02:11:03 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 17, 2010, 08:22:31 AMI've been wanting to do this since day one! We just have to invent a PC storage system.

No countryside here, just either barren mountainous terrain or cities infested with illegal mexicans


We should travel across Canada. We could get pretty much every 'mons because of the various landscape we have over here.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 17, 2010, 02:25:25 PM
Canada seems like a really cool place. I'd absolutely love to be a Pokemon Trainer in Canada.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperRiolu on August 17, 2010, 02:26:06 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on August 17, 2010, 02:11:03 PMWe should travel across Canada. We could get pretty much every 'mons because of the various landscape we have over here.

That may be fun! I've never been to Canada. Hopefully, I can go someday (though my family always goes to Connecticut for Christmas to visit my grandparents)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 17, 2010, 02:28:38 PM
Quote from: Treeckodude on August 17, 2010, 07:45:36 AMThat's what I want. But just two...

Treecko and...
...
...I'm not sure. Probably a cute Pokemon like Pichu or Phanpy, maybe a Larvitar. I think I'll settle for...Sneasel. It's a cuter version of Weavile, and it's still awesome.

Please explain how Larvitar is cute?

That's like saying Trapinch is cute.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 17, 2010, 02:38:02 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on August 17, 2010, 02:11:03 PMWe should travel across Canada. We could get pretty much every 'mons because of the various landscape we have over here.

That would be SO MUCH FUN! Not to mention, there is like no one outside of Toronto, Montreal, Quebec City, Calgary, Vancouver, and Halifax. Except, does Canada have a Desert-type area?? (Though I wouldnt catch any found in the desert, except Cacnea)

Where I live, I am within 2 hours of the following: Mountains, Desert, Ocean, Forests, Cities, Lakes, Farmlands... you name it, it probably exists within 2 hours!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 17, 2010, 03:22:38 PM
That would be so fun. :(
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 17, 2010, 04:19:53 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 17, 2010, 03:22:38 PMThat would be so fun. :(

Why the sad face then?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 17, 2010, 04:30:09 PM
Because it's not going to happen in this life...

Hey, you know how Hinduism states that you're reincarnated? I wish we could all be reincarnated as Pokemon Trainers! :)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 17, 2010, 06:25:43 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 17, 2010, 04:30:09 PMBecause it's not going to happen in this life...

Hey, you know how Hinduism states that you're reincarnated? I wish we could all be reincarnated as Pokemon Trainers! :)

Haha, that would be soooooooooooooo epic!  :D

Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 17, 2010, 02:38:02 PMThat would be SO MUCH FUN! Not to mention, there is like no one outside of Toronto, Montreal, Quebec City, Calgary, Vancouver, and Halifax. Except, does Canada have a Desert-type area?? (Though I wouldnt catch any found in the desert, except Cacnea)

Where I live, I am within 2 hours of the following: Mountains, Desert, Ocean, Forests, Cities, Lakes, Farmlands... you name it, it probably exists within 2 hours!

I think the only thing that Canada doesn't have is a desert. We may have one in west Canada, I don't really know for sure. And you're wrong about the first part. There are a lot of people outside of Montreal and Quebec City. There are a lot of villages here. The only place where no one lives is in the north, 'cause it's too cold; or so they say.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 17, 2010, 06:27:23 PM
DAAAA, da da DA, DA, DA, DA, DAAAA, da da DAAAA

Er, sorry, Sky Station is stuck in my head.

Where was I? Right. School is going fairly crappily at the moment, so being a Pokemon Trainer would be tons of fun...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 17, 2010, 06:40:58 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 17, 2010, 06:27:23 PMDAAAA, da da DA, DA, DA, DA, DAAAA, da da DAAAA

Er, sorry, Sky Station is stuck in my head.

Where was I? Right. School is going fairly crappily at the moment, so being a Pokemon Trainer would be tons of fun...

I hear ya. Tomorrow I'm going to school to get my agenda/locker, and boy does it make me sad. I don't want to go back there. On the bright side I'll have more free time since I won't work 6 days a week and I should be able to breed more Pokemon. :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 17, 2010, 08:49:38 PM
All my friends are leaving for school currently... its a pretty sad week, not to mention I have to get a haircut tomorrow (NOOOOOO) and toe surgery on thursday (its nothing huge). Not to mention im just feeling really tired after entering a place I applied to work earlier (a place where I wanted)... and after wowing everyone on my part, hire someone else and just dont tell me that they went with someone else, it is quite irking. At least I have a steady job that I'll have to quit before I move up north. Hopefully I can get it off my mind and get a better job (insert all the religious stuff here, so as not to offend the non-Christian folk out there).

Are you going into college, Roz? or are you still in your high school equivalent school (whatever that is in Canada).

Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 17, 2010, 04:30:09 PMBecause it's not going to happen in this life...

Hey, you know how Hinduism states that you're reincarnated? I wish we could all be reincarnated as Pokemon Trainers! :)

I'd hate to break it to you, but you can only be reincarnated in the caste system. Maybe one of the castes can be like Pokémon Trainer or something so it CAN happen. You'll have a better shot in Buddhism than Hinduism. (sorry, i took a world religion course my last year of HS... it was pretty cool... it basically went a little in-depth into major religions, and then we studied cults and then the "crazy mormons" (as my teacher put it). Some of there beliefs are a little... Farfetch'd... haha)

[/rant]

So how's everyone's progress coming in their games and such (especially toi, monsieur slow)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on August 18, 2010, 01:34:53 AM
I now have 2 teams that maybe kind of probably are gonna kick ass.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 18, 2010, 04:13:30 AM
@DrP - Yeah, I knew that... I was just saying. The only reason I used Hindu as an example was because we studied them and their Caste System yesterday in my honors world history class. xD

@Shadoninja - That's pretty cool! Well, it would be if I knew what they were. ;P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on August 18, 2010, 04:48:28 AM
Team 1:
SteelWingz (Skarmory)
LongDragon (Dragonair)
BluSkippr (Swampert)
GreenPsych (Gardevoir)
Sludgykins (Muk)
~Gigantic~ (Snorlax)

Team 2:
NotBronze (Bronzong)
WeakToNone (Sableye)
IronKnuckle (Lucario)
GroundClaw(Gliscor)
~BlueDuck~ (golduck)
And two Porygon-Z's
PoryPower (Pure raw power)
PoryPwnage (1 high attacking move and some more accurate attacks)

I'll probably switch the sableye for a Spiritomb.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperRiolu on August 18, 2010, 07:11:47 AM
My Current "Red-Busting" team, as DrP puts it is: Spiritomb, Luxray, Dragonite, Blaziken, Masquerain and Roserade. I think it's a pretty solid team
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 18, 2010, 09:07:31 AM
Quote from: SuperRiolu on August 18, 2010, 07:11:47 AMMy Current "Red-Busting" team, as DrP puts it is: Spiritomb, Luxray, Dragonite, Blaziken, Masquerain and Roserade. I think it's a pretty solid team

I traded a Quilfish for a Spiritomb over the GTS... if you put up something reasonable like that, youll probably get it!!
Spiritomb just isnt fair, since no one can have super-effective attacks against it and its immune to Psychic, Normal and Fighting!!

You have a pretty solid team, otherwise, you definitely covered some bases there (and I'm guessing one of those is your favorite Pokémon)

Also. LESS THAN 1 MONTH UNTIL BLACK AND WHITE IN JAPAN!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperRiolu on August 18, 2010, 10:12:03 AM
Spiritomb is a pretty hidden secret, though it is hard to get in Diamond and Pearl.

My favorite Pokémon is on that list, it's Masquerain! It's a pretty amazing Pokémon!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 18, 2010, 10:21:16 AM
Quote from: SuperRiolu on August 18, 2010, 10:12:03 AMSpiritomb is a pretty hidden secret, though it is hard to get in Diamond and Pearl.

My favorite Pokémon is on that list, it's Masquerain! It's a pretty amazing Pokémon!

It's a mid-range Pokémon in my book, not necessarily super powerful, and it's weak to like 4 or 5 types because of its Bug/Flying combination. It is a pretty Pokémon however! Masquerain was part of my main team for Diamond, and then I used it in contests mostly (its the perfect contest Pokémon)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperRiolu on August 18, 2010, 10:28:13 AM
I've begun to EV train Masquerain with the berries and battling specific Pokémon. I've been focusing on contests in Platine, for that extra point on the Trainer Card, and Masquerain is perfect for the Smart Contests
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 18, 2010, 11:17:57 AM
I have never been a huge fan of the contests... I like the Hoenn ones better (and I prefer Pokéblocks to Poffins). I only did the Sinnoh ones because I wanted that star! It was the only reason!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 18, 2010, 01:24:04 PM
The Shellder on Slowbro's tail said it would be right back...

Slowbro fell for it.

Now my pic has reverted.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 18, 2010, 01:56:12 PM
Kinda like the last D/P episode, where Shaymin became Sky Forme for a bit, and then reverted back... and then became Sky Forme again!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 18, 2010, 02:12:11 PM
Erm. I guess.

I read on Slowbro's PokeDex (lol) that "if the Shellder somehow comes off its tail, it reverts to being an ordinary Slowpoke.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 18, 2010, 02:17:09 PM
I see... I just took some photos with photobooth... I may replace my avatar with a HARDLY recognizable picture of me. (nearly everyone here has seen my facebook)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 18, 2010, 02:22:23 PM
Can't seem to hit my delay, so I can't finish breeding my Dratini. u_u For some reason I can't seem to RNG when I'm tired/exhausted.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 18, 2010, 02:23:16 PM
It seems pretty draining, actually.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 18, 2010, 02:23:56 PM
Long workday? And delay is the time between when you press the start game button on the DS home screen and to when you press continue?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 18, 2010, 02:25:13 PM
o_O

Okay, then.

Pokemon is so addicting. People who have never played it hate it, though.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 18, 2010, 02:33:08 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 18, 2010, 02:23:16 PMIt seems pretty draining, actually.

Not that much, but I can't concentrate when I'm tired, and right now I really am x) And I still have to work tonight. u_u

Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 18, 2010, 02:23:56 PMLong workday? And delay is the time between when you press the start game button on the DS home screen and to when you press continue?

The delay is the time it takes for you to hit the Continue screen when you start your game.

Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 18, 2010, 02:25:13 PMo_O

Okay, then.

Pokemon is so addicting. People who have never played it hate it, though.

People who play it casually too. I went to a friend's house today where 6 of my friends were and one brought up the new Black and White games. Then some of them said "I can't believe people still play Pokemon, it sucks blablablaaaah". But yeah, they don't really know about IVs/EVs and such.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 18, 2010, 02:34:48 PM
Whatever.

xP

We're way better than them, right guys? :3

You guys are so awesome! :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 18, 2010, 02:46:54 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 18, 2010, 02:34:48 PMWhatever.

xP

We're way better than them, right guys? :3

You guys are so awesome! :D

Hahaha, I think so too. x)
Those people are casual gamers that only like Guitar Hero/Rock Band and Halo/CoD. So yeah, their opinions are invalid. :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 18, 2010, 04:40:12 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on August 18, 2010, 02:46:54 PMHahaha, I think so too. x)

What, you think that I'm awesome? Or were you agreeing that you guys are awesome? ;D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 18, 2010, 04:59:59 PM
She thinks we're better then them! Woo! I LOATHE them casual gamers... they think they are the shit. I really want to throw them off the DP Cliffs (DP stands for Dana Point)

Of course we're awesome! Woot!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 18, 2010, 05:25:15 PM
Er...

What do we do now? In celebration?

I don't know. I haven't even started playing the Gold/Silver medley yet...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 18, 2010, 06:29:42 PM
Then play it in celebration!! ;D

I need someone to answer my macho brace question on the "What are you playing now" thread... i wont begin playing again until I know something!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 19, 2010, 03:30:25 PM
I love Pokemon.

In fact, I don't think I'm going to look at all the new Pokemon when B&W come out in Japan...

I want to preserve that "new adventure" feeling by seeing new Pokemon while I'm playing the game...

So please, no pics, you guys, unless I change my mind (believe me, you'll know).
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 19, 2010, 06:31:10 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 19, 2010, 03:30:25 PMI love Pokemon.

In fact, I don't think I'm going to look at all the new Pokemon when B&W come out in Japan...

I want to preserve that "new adventure" feeling by seeing new Pokemon while I'm playing the game...

So please, no pics, you guys, unless I change my mind (believe me, you'll know).

Same here. I'll probably check the starters' evolutions, but that's it.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 19, 2010, 06:40:24 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on August 19, 2010, 06:31:10 PMSame here. I'll probably check the starters' evolutions, but that's it.

I second that...

BUT I HAS BAD NEWS. They redid the designs for Nurse Joy and Officer Jenny, or they are phasing them out from the new ones since Isshu is far away... and since Slow doesnt wanna see pictures, ill post the link... also a new character for the anime

http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/New_Best_Wishes_character_revealed
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 19, 2010, 06:40:46 PM
Look at these fake concepts done by someone of the final evolutions:

http://www.pokestation.net/images/bw_003.png
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 19, 2010, 06:45:06 PM
well... they look horrid, i wouldnt want to train any one of them (but they would be quite powerful, though)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperRiolu on August 19, 2010, 06:48:18 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 19, 2010, 06:40:46 PMLook at these fake concepts done by someone of the final evolutions:

http://www.pokestation.net/images/bw_003.png

I hope those aren't what they are going to turn out to be
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 19, 2010, 07:06:44 PM
Quote from: SuperRiolu on August 19, 2010, 06:48:18 PMI hope those aren't what they are going to turn out to be

Like I said, they were proven fake. ::)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 19, 2010, 07:11:19 PM
TG, then.

There has been like lots of stuff out there that ive seen otherwise. I may want to check the evolution of the deer (i think its called shijikia... something similar) that changes with the seasons, besides the starters. I will be working on the new anime series when it opens up... hopefully BW1 will be pretty cool. I wont spoil it for anyone

Roz: Did you catch the Pokémon episode at all?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 19, 2010, 07:35:55 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 19, 2010, 06:45:06 PMwell... they look horrid, i wouldnt want to train any one of them (but they would be quite powerful, though)

Actually I think they look kinda cool.

Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 19, 2010, 06:40:24 PMI second that...

BUT I HAS BAD NEWS. They redid the designs for Nurse Joy and Officer Jenny, or they are phasing them out from the new ones since Isshu is far away... and since Slow doesnt wanna see pictures, ill post the link... also a new character for the anime

http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/New_Best_Wishes_character_revealed

Roz: Did you catch the Pokémon episode at all?

HOW DARE THEY CHANGE NURSE JOY AND OFFICER JENNY?! They're ruining the Anime, I tell you! Even though it really does suck now anyway

Also, what do you mean by Pokemon Episode?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 19, 2010, 07:39:57 PM
You know TV Tokyo showed Pokémon... you have that program on your computer... it was on. I just then realized you didnt want to be up at 5 AM to see it live.

I acutally dont think it will be Officer Jenny and Nurse Joy... they can't change something that was already established. Since its "far away" they reset the routes, the game names (they are back to colors), and now the people will be reset that will be recurring in the subsequent Gen VI, VII and VIII (if it reaches that far).

So its probably going to be Officer Mary and Nurse Maggie (something similar like that... but not necessarily what I said)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 19, 2010, 07:43:43 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 19, 2010, 07:39:57 PMYou know TV Tokyo showed Pokémon... you have that program on your computer... it was on. I just then realized you didnt want to be up at 5 AM to see it live.

I acutally dont think it will be Officer Jenny and Nurse Joy... they can't change something that was already established. Since its "far away" they reset the routes, the game names (they are back to colors), and now the people will be reset that will be recurring in the subsequent Gen VI, VII and VIII (if it reaches that far).

So its probably going to be Officer Mary and Nurse Maggie (something similar like that... but not necessarily what I said)

I know what you mean, but the fact that it won't be Jenny and Joy makes me sad. And I watched it this morning, as you said I didn't feel like watching it live. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 19, 2010, 08:22:32 PM
Yep... and theres a possibility of no Brock and he's going to be replaced by this photography dude from Kanoko Town. Also, Dawn leaves (yay).

Im so sad about Officer Jenny (she was my favorite character in the beginning part of the anime)... then I just got mixed in to so many and kept changing my mind.

I get to sleep in tomorrow! Woo!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 19, 2010, 08:26:04 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 19, 2010, 08:22:32 PMYep... and theres a possibility of no Brock and he's going to be replaced by this photography dude from Kanoko Town. Also, Dawn leaves (yay).

Im so sad about Officer Jenny (she was my favorite character in the beginning part of the anime)... then I just got mixed in to so many and kept changing my mind.

I get to sleep in tomorrow! Woo!

I wish it'd be Brock and Misty, like in the old days.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 19, 2010, 08:27:04 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on August 19, 2010, 08:26:04 PMI wish it'd be Brock and Misty, like in the old days.

Same! Maybe she could come back (its a possibility)... and bring back the old voice actors too (and if they can't, get a new one for ash)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperRiolu on August 19, 2010, 08:41:51 PM
The voice actors over here have changed a few times. Every region has seen a new voice actor for Sacha (or Ash in English)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 20, 2010, 02:16:59 PM
No. Not every region. Veronica Taylor did it for quite a while. All the way up to Battle Frontier, I believe.

Then along came Ash's new suckish voice actor. Who is still doing it.

(This goes for English, at least...it may be different in France)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 20, 2010, 02:39:36 PM
Seems like it...

I am just about to face Karen in SS!!! My team currently is,

Crobat, Girafarig, Umbreon, Lapras, Snorlax, and Charizard! I wont have any problems against Lance this time with Dragonite (like in HG when it was the only Pokémon that knew Ice Beam)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 20, 2010, 03:07:43 PM
I knew it! :D

Hooray.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 20, 2010, 03:39:51 PM
If I restart Platinum, ill let you know! You can do that again with my team and stuff!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 20, 2010, 03:40:31 PM
:o

If you restart Platinum, I'm doing it with you! :D

We can go through our journeys together, like third graders! :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 20, 2010, 03:41:47 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 20, 2010, 03:40:31 PM:o

If you restart Platinum, I'm doing it with you! :D

We can go through our journeys together, like third graders! :D

I want to restart my platinum too, when I've traded some 'mons over. Don't know when that'll be, but it'd be fun to restart it together. :)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 20, 2010, 03:43:25 PM
Seriously! We should all chat together or something so we can start at the exact same time!

:D

We could all start with something different (if happening, dibs on Turtwig :D)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 20, 2010, 03:46:20 PM
I call Piplup!

Or maybe we can all start together on Black and White when it comes out.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 20, 2010, 03:47:13 PM
It's a little early, and I'm not playing the Japanese version. ;)

But, yeah, that would be cool.

We could do both, really.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 20, 2010, 03:48:27 PM
I don't mind starting with Chimchar since I picked Turtwig last time. And yeah, we should do that with Black and White too.

And I won't play the Japanese version either (at least I don't think so) so we'd have to wait for Spring 2011 to do that.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 20, 2010, 03:49:51 PM
But I would have to transfer all my good Pokémon from Platinum.

I have also officially shelved HG and packed it with my other DS which is going to school with me. Maybe we can do it after I unpack (which will be three weeks away from monday)

And I can wait for BW... I have decided to hold off on playing the JP version early, but I will be watching the anime in Japanese, prepping for my Japanese class and doing my bulbapedia thang!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on August 20, 2010, 04:37:51 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 20, 2010, 02:39:36 PMSeems like it...

I am just about to face Karen in SS!!! My team currently is,

Crobat, Girafarig, Umbreon, Lapras, Snorlax, and Charizard! I wont have any problems against Lance this time with Dragonite (like in HG when it was the only Pokémon that knew Ice Beam)

I HATE Karen.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 20, 2010, 04:59:45 PM
Aaron would beg to differ.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 20, 2010, 05:19:12 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 20, 2010, 04:59:45 PMAaron would beg to differ.

Yes he would! and i like Karen!!!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperRiolu on August 20, 2010, 05:20:22 PM
Karen?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 20, 2010, 05:47:31 PM
she's a member of the Johto Elite Four. She is Marion, according to the French versions
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 20, 2010, 06:14:57 PM
Check out my story The Will to Go On in the storytelling forums for an in-depth (albeit unfinished) history of Karen, Will, and Aaron. ;)

Good advertising... I should ask Concerto to put it on the News Reel! xD
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 20, 2010, 06:16:17 PM
put what in the news reel?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 20, 2010, 06:18:41 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 20, 2010, 06:14:57 PMCheck out my story The Will to Go On in the storytelling forums for an in-depth (albeit unfinished) history of Karen, Will, and Aaron. ;)

^

EDIT: Also, @Roz + Dr Grapefruit - give me a time when we can all chat to restart our games. Or a time. Either one.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 20, 2010, 06:35:36 PM
Well, you need to get MSN messenger, first... for that to happen. And probably next month. I dont have time now, especially the next three weeks
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on August 20, 2010, 07:09:44 PM
if y'all are restarting platinum, i'm down for it.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperRiolu on August 20, 2010, 10:20:04 PM
I should might as well as join in. Now, I just have to find Platinum when I return home

We are heading to Hakodate for the day... and then we will come back late tonight! Were going to explore Sapporo more tomorrow! Sapporo has to be my favorite City in Japan (Tokyo is just overrated).

Jubilife City is based off of Sapporo!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 23, 2010, 07:18:49 PM
See the I'm away thread! It kinda sucks you are leaving tomorrow. Did you get me anything?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperRiolu on August 23, 2010, 07:32:43 PM
YES! A hug and this huge box that we're shipping to you tomorrow. Youre going to love all the stuff we're sending you... C'est un secret!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 24, 2010, 01:35:33 PM
I wish I could go to Japan... or at least someone I know, so I could get stuff from there too. x)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperRiolu on August 24, 2010, 02:06:35 PM
Let's just say, it was a 12kg box by the time I finished wrapping fragile stuff and adding the rest.

I'm on the plane now (they have Wi-Fi on it).We're still 8 hours away from Paris and it is a SLOWFEST in here. I think I may get some sleep, so I can be awake when we land in the morning
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 24, 2010, 02:29:47 PM
What's wrong with a slowfest? ;D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperRiolu on August 24, 2010, 02:37:39 PM
It is so freaking boring. Luckily for me, business class has free champagne and I can just sit back and take a nice long nap now!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 24, 2010, 02:38:38 PM
C'est beau la bourgeoisie hein? Je t'envie. =P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperRiolu on August 24, 2010, 02:46:21 PM
Oui! Bien sur! hahaha. J'ai très fatigué et je veux dormir, mais c'est difficile à bord un avion!

N'as pas d'envie! (peut-être un peu)

My french may be a bit wrong because I am pretty tired and I have been speaking English for the past week
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 24, 2010, 02:50:57 PM
Haha, c'est normal de faire des fautes quand on est fatigué :P

I wish my family had more money, then maybe we could travel a little. Now I can't spend money at all, I'm working hard to pay for school since my parents can't really help me. But I'll definitely go to Japan one day.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: KefkaticFanatic on August 24, 2010, 02:54:02 PM
There is so much Pokemon branded stuff there.  It's pretty schweet actually.  But it's still considering mostly a kids thing, just like it is here.  It's only ok for older people to play the games if they had played them in their childhood and it's PART OF THEIR VERY BEING.

But you will see grown men in business suits playing something on a DS, so maybe they do play it?  From what I heard from other high school age students though, it's still mostly for kids.  And people there are not all obsessed with anime, especially CHILDREN'S anime, like all the fucking weeaboos think.  It's still considered a bad thing over there if you are.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 25, 2010, 02:05:46 PM
I actually don't LOVE the anime. Do I like it? Of course, you can't not like it.

But I'm not a huge "fanatic-who-watches-every-episode-religiously".

Not that there is anything wrong with those kinds of people. But I've never been one of them.

As you all know, all I watch religiously are Total Drama and The Middle.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 25, 2010, 03:12:39 PM
Damn, the finals of the Video Game Championship were awesome. Intense battles were intense and epic. Also, I think I'm gonna spoil the 5th gen 'mons... I just need to check the new pokedex. x)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 25, 2010, 03:43:57 PM
I probably will too... SIGH I just can't resist!!!

lol
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperRiolu on August 25, 2010, 09:17:35 PM
they released them all?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: KefkaticFanatic on August 25, 2010, 10:01:37 PM
If you still watch Pokemon anime and you are not in elementary school there is a problem.

You can be a cool kid and watch the first episode for nostalgia blast, but you're a twat if you actually keep up with the show.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 25, 2010, 10:15:39 PM
The new stuff is just repetitive and meant for those who can't really understand nearly anything

Ash and Friends meet someone
Someone has a problem
Ash tries to fix problem
Team Rocket interjects
Ash's Pikachu sends them "blasting off again"
It ends in a sunset

talk about BORING... not to mention it isn't even funny nor does it have a single word of sophisticated diction in it. I just have to grind my teeth and watch the new ones (in japanese) so I can get that Golden Porygon award (and I know, it is COMPLETELY POINTLESS, but I've already started, why stop when im almost done?) and then I'm off to Black and White (the games) in three weeks, and I won't have to suffer through Ash's incessant annoyance and Dawn's constant annoyance of everything in general

Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: KefkaticFanatic on August 25, 2010, 11:45:21 PM
You're dumb.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 26, 2010, 02:25:27 PM
ANYWAY
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 26, 2010, 03:43:44 PM
22 days until the Japanese release of the BW games!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperFireKirby on August 26, 2010, 06:04:45 PM
Raymondbl wants to know what the best team of any pokemon from any game is. He won't ask himself, little pansie. Don't be in any hurry to respond.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 26, 2010, 06:06:29 PM
Who cares?

PLUS, that's not something you can answer. EVERY Pokemon (even Magikarp) has its uses (even if that use is to be sent out while you heal a stronger Pokemon).

That's a pretty stupid question. If Roz, Oni, or DrP want to answer, they can...but I'm not wasting my time. ::)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 26, 2010, 06:10:22 PM
No Question is stupid, slow...

But in this case, you may be asking people with Doctorates in Pokémon, but we just can't choose a set of 6, or even a list of 20. Like Slow said, every Pokémon has it's uses.

I will say one thing: Alakazam/Porygon-Z/Slaking/Blissey/Rampardos/Shuckle/Ninjask/Shedinja

Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 26, 2010, 06:11:40 PM
Shuckle? Shedinja? Really? xD
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on August 26, 2010, 06:12:14 PM
Best Team Ever: Magikarp/Magikarp/Magikarp/Magikarp/Magikarp/Magikarp. Destroys all sets.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 26, 2010, 06:34:25 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 26, 2010, 06:11:40 PMShuckle? Shedinja? Really? xD

I took those with the highest in each category... i really didn't care/want to put in major thought into it.

Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 26, 2010, 06:39:35 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 26, 2010, 06:11:40 PMShuckle? Shedinja? Really? xD

Shedinja's awesome when used properly. Especially because of Wonderguard. Shuckle can be effin' annoying because of it's beastly defenses and especially since it usually knock off/toxic/encore everything out there.

Quote from: SuperFireKirby on August 26, 2010, 06:04:45 PMRaymondbl wants to know what the best team of any pokemon from any game is. He won't ask himself, little pansie. Don't be in any hurry to respond.

It's impossible to answer to that question imho. The metagame keeps changing so even if you had a team that could kick ass, after the metagame changes then you might suck if you don't adapt your team to it. Plus it depends in what tier he wants to play; Uber, OU, BL/UU, NU or Little Cup which are all different kind of play style. There are a lot of factors that can make a team good or bad at a specific moment. Also any team can be good depending on how you use your 'mons. We can't just tell him "use that 'mon, it kicks ass" if it doesn't fit with his style play or his team. He should just make a team with good synergy, try it out and change things that need to be changed.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on August 26, 2010, 07:30:57 PM
porygon-z <3. epic special attacker.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 27, 2010, 04:26:02 AM
Combined with Adaptability, Hyper Beam, and max Sp. Atk stats (plus maybe Choice Specs or Silk Scarf) it is even MORE epic.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 27, 2010, 05:54:16 AM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 27, 2010, 04:26:02 AMCombined with Adaptability, Hyper Beam, and max Sp. Atk stats (plus maybe Choice Specs or Silk Scarf) it is even MORE epic.

Tri-Attack > Hyper Beam 'cause he doesn't have to waste a turn to recharge.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on August 27, 2010, 10:07:35 AM
I usually save hyper beam for the last pokemanz.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 27, 2010, 02:07:38 PM
Hyper Beam is SO much stronger.

Tri Attack is meh.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 27, 2010, 02:27:01 PM
Hyper Beam was awesome in RBY. Now it sucks. Using two Tri-Attack is going to deal more damage than using 1 Hyper Beam. The fact that it has 20% chance of either paralyzing, freezing or burning your opponent's 'mons makes it even more better than HB.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 27, 2010, 02:52:09 PM
Tri-Attack is better FTW. Just like Roz said, while youre recharging from HB, you can hit with another STAB Tri-Attack from P-Z. It is probably one of the overlooked options to HB (but it is a fairly used move in comparison to others).

I loved using Tri Attack when I had a Dodrio, and it  can really do more damage than HB
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 27, 2010, 02:53:28 PM
Yeah, Tri Attack is good.

BUT (this has nothing to do with above)

if you use a Slaking, teach it Giga Impact because of its mega attack power. It will have to recharge the next turn, but because of Truant it doesn't matter anyway.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 27, 2010, 06:35:49 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 27, 2010, 02:53:28 PMYeah, Tri Attack is good.

BUT (this has nothing to do with above)

if you use a Slaking, teach it Giga Impact because of its mega attack power. It will have to recharge the next turn, but because of Truant it doesn't matter anyway.

But since it's sooooooo obvious you switch in a ghost type. You get a free turn to sub up or use calm mind/nasty plot/etc.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 27, 2010, 06:39:38 PM
since slow is complaining of "lack of people"

What's your favorite grass type, slow? hahaha

(Im watching Marley and Me... I forgot it was kinda funny)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 27, 2010, 07:10:37 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 27, 2010, 06:39:38 PMsince slow is complaining of "lack of people"

What's your favorite grass type, slow? hahaha

(Im watching Marley and Me... I forgot it was kinda funny)

I read the book, I really liked it. And my favorite grass 'mon's Bellsprout. For some reason I just love it. :P
Bred a Gastly HP Ice 70 today, and now I'm going for a flawless Staryu. Might bred one with HP Grass 70 too, since it might be fun to use.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on August 27, 2010, 10:51:30 PM
I have two variations of pory-z. one for pure raw raepage power and one with one pure raepage move and the rest are more reliably accurate moves.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 28, 2010, 06:44:18 AM
Good choice... you should trade one to a friend so you can enter the Battle Hall together!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 28, 2010, 02:37:35 PM
So, who here has/had Pokemon Snap? Like I said in the Requests forum, that game is SUPER nostalgic to me. <3

One of the best Pokemon games ever.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 28, 2010, 02:48:57 PM
I have! It was the first Pokémon Console game I have played!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 28, 2010, 02:50:54 PM
Same here! :D

My N64 was originally my cousin's (who is now in college)...

When he got into about middle school, he gave it to us! We always loved to go to his house because we got to play Super Smash Bros, and Super Mario 64, and Mario Kart 64...

I love the N64...probably my favorite console. :)

I think I'll go restart that soon. I need to find Pokemon Stadium online as well!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperRiolu on August 28, 2010, 10:13:22 PM
I've never had an N64, but I use Project 64 to emulate one. The games were probably Nintendo's finest
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 29, 2010, 05:44:17 AM
Snes > N64. Pokemon Snap was a nice game; I should try to find a copy of it.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 29, 2010, 07:32:15 AM
Quote from: Roz~ on August 29, 2010, 05:44:17 AMSnes > N64

I disagree. xD

But then again, I never had a NES or a SNES, I've only played them.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 29, 2010, 08:17:46 AM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 29, 2010, 07:32:15 AMI disagree. xD

But then again, I never had a NES or a SNES, I've only played them.

The Snes is my favorite console of all time 'cause of all the awesome games out there. Good ol' days.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on August 29, 2010, 10:04:06 AM
<- just bought a NES :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 29, 2010, 10:12:54 AM
I like the graphics on the N64 best.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 29, 2010, 10:53:50 AM
Technically (using math...look beyond the numbers), SNES!<N64!

I really don't want to get into this war... they were both great. I loved ALttP and SMW, and stuff, but N64 was my first nintendo console, with OoT coming with it. Im not going to state the obvious, so... ΣΟΝΠΕΜΣΙ
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 29, 2010, 10:55:40 AM
ANYWAY

Restarted both LeafGreen and Ruby. Going to play Ruby first. :P

Then maybe I'll finish LeafGreen...unless we restart out Platinums before that!!!!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 29, 2010, 11:09:23 AM
Wait until September to restart your platinum... Roz and I still have to transfer our Pokémon from it to SS and HG
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on August 29, 2010, 12:40:05 PM
The only games I had for the original Nintendo was Duck hunt and TMNT.... I hardly ever played either of them... Although watching my brothers play the Legend of Zelda on the 64 was fun, as I was a bit too unskilled to play that game at the time. That's why I'm playing it now!!!  :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on August 29, 2010, 11:38:17 PM
if bill was accidentally combined with a pokemon, where does the pokemon go when you fix him?

also
http://kotaku.com/5623268/a-truly-logical-nintendo-ds-charger
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 30, 2010, 04:22:13 AM
^Does that link work for anyone else? :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 30, 2010, 12:10:46 PM
Pour moi, oui!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on August 30, 2010, 12:21:32 PM
I have two brothers. We kind of... divide out the games. Although I was a bit young for the first 6....


Red (Brother #1) Blue (Brother #2)                                                                                                 GEN I
                                                Yellow (#2)

Gold (#2) Silver (#1)                                                                                                                    GEN II
                                                Crystal (Me, but #2 took over because I didn't play it a lot...)

Ruby (#1) Saphire (#2)                                                                                                                GEN III
                                                Emerald (We never got it!!! It would have been me...)
FireRed (#2) LeafGreen (We never got it!!! It would have been me...)

Diamond (#1) Pearl (ME!!!)                                                                                                            GEN IV
                                                Platinum (#2)
HeartGold (Me, but then I lost it.... :'( :'( :'() SoulSilver (#1)

Black (Will be #2) White (Will be #1)                                                                                               GEN V
                                                Maybe Grey??? (Will be me!!!)
AdjectiveSaphire (IDK) AdjectiveRuby (IDK)

Epic (idk) Epic (idk)                                                                                                                      GEN VI
                                                SuperEpic (idk)
AdjectiveDiamond (idk) AdjectivePearl (idk)

lol....  :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 30, 2010, 02:11:21 PM
What makes you think they'll remake Diamond, Pearl, Ruby, or Sapphire?

I definitely DON'T think they will remake Diamond or Pearl. MAYBE Ruby or Sapphire. Probably not.

And I hope there's no remake of Black and White.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 30, 2010, 02:20:06 PM
I hope not too. RBY and GSC are classics and they deserved to have remakes; I don't think the same thing applies with gen 3-4.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 30, 2010, 02:21:22 PM
They're too new. They're part of this generation, whether you like it or not.

Red, Blue, Gold, and Silver were remade JUST SO they could be part of this generation, too. Ruby, Sapphire, Diamond, and Pearl? no point.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 30, 2010, 03:02:58 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 30, 2010, 02:21:22 PMThey're too new. They're part of this generation, whether you like it or not.

Red, Blue, Gold, and Silver were remade JUST SO they could be part of this generation, too. Ruby, Sapphire, Diamond, and Pearl? no point.

I know that, but the fans' demands for a GS remake did help out too. I expect a RSE remake on 3DS.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 30, 2010, 03:26:21 PM
Actually, that sounds cool! xD

[/contradiction]

I would so get Pokemon Ruby 3DS!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 30, 2010, 03:28:04 PM
Well there were remakes for the GBA, then for the NDS, so remakes for the 3DS... yep, it seems really possible.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 30, 2010, 03:31:22 PM
I actually hope they release a third Pokemon Pinball. I recently started playing my Pokemon Pinball R&S again, and it's really fun, just like I remembered it!

(In case you're interested, I have in my PokeDex 198 out of 201. The only ones I'm missing are Feebas, Milotic, and Skarmory)

Once I get those three, Pokemon Pinball Ruby and Sapphire will become the first game I've ever fully (and legally) completed a PokeDex in! :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 30, 2010, 03:36:39 PM
Haha yep, Pokemon Pinball's really fun. I liked Pokemon Puzzle League too. :P
And I'm close to completing my Platinum Pokedex. IIRC I only need about 20 more 'mons to do so. So yeah, maybe one day I will... probably not since we're planning on restarting our games.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 30, 2010, 04:26:50 PM
There will always be remakes. Gen III remakes will be made around 2012, as they are already in progress and they will keep on making remakes for future systems, probably adapting them to a new overworld standard in the future
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 30, 2010, 06:32:07 PM
Already in progress?

Explain? Where did you find out???

They're already confirmed?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 30, 2010, 06:34:36 PM
I've already said too much

There are reasons why you need to be on MSN
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 30, 2010, 06:37:51 PM
DUDE
I don't want to get MSN right now.

Why can't you just tell me? >:P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on August 30, 2010, 06:43:39 PM
I'd rather they remake the trading card game or make a sequel.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 30, 2010, 06:54:37 PM
They did made a sequel, but it was only released in Japan. I agree though, we need another TCG video game.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 30, 2010, 08:17:09 PM
That was a kinda fun game... i never had it though
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperRiolu on August 31, 2010, 12:18:54 AM
I never played TCG, it did look interesting. I stick to main series games for the most part, not really venturing to spin-offs, though I have played a few
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 31, 2010, 03:47:01 AM
You should try it. I'm not fond of spin-offs either, but the TCG's awesome. Definitely worth it.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 31, 2010, 04:19:12 AM
I've played the actual cards...used to play them all the time. And if my brother's Yu-Gi-Oh! card game for GBA is fun, Pokemon definitely will be.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 31, 2010, 10:30:35 AM
This is prompting me to bring out the ORIGINAL Pokémon cards just to look at them!

My how things have changed from the original 150 and the holographic Charizard that once went for 200 dollars
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: KefkaticFanatic on August 31, 2010, 11:11:20 AM
I got that fucker in my first booster pack actually.

And sold it for $80 at a charity garage sale.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 31, 2010, 11:21:16 AM
you still made some money on that (if you were hoping to... because of the charity thing and whatnot)

You know what I just realized, I completely forgot Pokémon aired on Saturday and I skipped an episode... Am I free from the crap that is now on? something got to me!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperRiolu on August 31, 2010, 11:26:53 AM
Something is going on here!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 31, 2010, 11:30:56 AM
I know... I havent done anything Pokémon for almost a week, and I'm not suffering Withdrawls. I just go in and out of things I like. Now I'm back to being a normal person watching comedys like 30 Rock and Community and I'm play Civilization IV and working on some new piano music:

Chopin's Op 69 No.2 Valse
Mozart's 13th Piano Sonata, No.3
Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata No. 2 and No. 3
Satie's Je te Veux and Lère Gymnopedie
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: KefkaticFanatic on August 31, 2010, 12:50:46 PM
You have way too much free time to be able to work on all of those.

Right now I'm just working on Moonlight Mov. 3.  It's actually significantly easier than I expected :o
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 31, 2010, 01:26:41 PM
That's really cool, KF! You are actually a talented pianist! :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: KefkaticFanatic on August 31, 2010, 03:15:58 PM
I like how you ignore the guy saying he's learning multiple songs and instead compliment (potentially sarcastically) the one that is only learning one :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 31, 2010, 06:00:45 PM
Well, DrP already knows I know he's talented.

God, no need to be like that. If I had complimented DrP, you would say how I'm always sucking up to him. Are you ever satisfied?  :P

Also, it wasn't sarcastic.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 31, 2010, 06:13:10 PM
Hey Slow, just wanted you to know that I managed to transfer some 'mons over to my HG game from my Plat game, meaning I may be able to restart my game soon.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 31, 2010, 06:15:09 PM
Cool! As soon as DrP packs for college or whatever he wants to do, we can all do it! :D

It will be fun!

Meanwhile, I am amusing myself by restarting Ruby.

TREECKO AGAIN

I love Treecko so much!!!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 31, 2010, 06:27:13 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 31, 2010, 06:15:09 PMCool! As soon as DrP packs for college or whatever he wants to do, we can all do it! :D

It will be fun!

Meanwhile, I am amusing myself by restarting Ruby.

TREECKO AGAIN

I love Treecko so much!!!

I should breed one. And I'm not done yet, I should be done next week. So yep, I hope we can restart our games in September x)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 31, 2010, 08:10:44 PM
ahem... Squirtle... ahem. hahaha

Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 31, 2010, 06:00:45 PMWell, DrP already knows I know he's talented.

God, no need to be like that. If I had complimented DrP, you would say how I'm always sucking up to him. Are you ever satisfied?  :P

Also, it wasn't sarcastic.

I still kinda suck, you know.

Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on August 31, 2010, 12:50:46 PMYou have way too much free time to be able to work on all of those.

Right now I'm just working on Moonlight Mov. 3.  It's actually significantly easier than I expected :o

I was pretty busy today. I spent the day with my awesome grandma, went to lunch up in yuppie ville (Newport Beach) at this beach cafe... that was one bad Tuna melt... Gruyère doesnt belong with Tuna, then I had Gelato in Laguna Beach (a city south of NB) and then saw some photos from my grandparent's trip to Lithuania and then read an article about my grandfather's speaker company in a Audio Pro magazine... It was pretty fun, though it kinda got boring afterwards

Anyways, I finished the Moonlight Sonata movements over the weekend, though I still have to perfect the third one a bit more. Satie's stuff is quite easy, and now I have begun work on Chopin's stuff (which should take a couple of days) and Mozart's 13th should take a while (it is 14 pages).... I still have two weeks for these two
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on August 31, 2010, 10:20:05 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on August 31, 2010, 06:27:13 PMI should breed one. And I'm not done yet, I should be done next week. So yep, I hope we can restart our games in September x)
ready and able.

Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 31, 2010, 11:30:56 AMChopin's Op 69 No.2 Valse
Mozart's 13th Piano Sonata, No.3
Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata No. 2 and No. 3
Satie's Je te Veux and Lère Gymnopedie


I'm learning that one too. It's very simple yet filled with a lot of emotion.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on August 31, 2010, 11:40:27 PM
which one?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on September 01, 2010, 01:51:07 AM
the one in bold.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperRiolu on September 01, 2010, 08:11:49 AM
that's two songs: one is a Waltz "Je te Veux" and the other is a slow, reflective song "Lère Gymnopedie"
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 01, 2010, 09:55:26 AM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 31, 2010, 08:10:44 PMahem... Squirtle... ahem. hahaha

Don't worry, I haven't forgotten :P I tried something out and it didn't work, so I'll go for a shiny one. I'll give you an egg so when it hatches in your game it won't be shiny. It'll be a lot more easier to breed it that way.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 01, 2010, 11:10:26 AM
you can trade eggs??? i never knew (well, I never tried)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 01, 2010, 12:14:11 PM
Yep you can. And your egg's ready for delivery!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on September 01, 2010, 01:39:39 PM
Dude, you didn't know you could trade Eggs? :D

I would have thought a Pokemon veteran like yourself would know that already!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 01, 2010, 04:53:24 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on September 01, 2010, 12:14:11 PMYep you can. And your egg's ready for delivery!
.

Ok, I'll be on tonight... we can trade friend codes on MSN!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 01, 2010, 05:01:29 PM
Yep no problem!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 01, 2010, 07:21:14 PM
Woo! I have begun the transfer of Pokémon from Platinum. I have set a tentative date of September 22nd (its a Wednesday)... how does that sound?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on September 01, 2010, 07:43:54 PM
I'm fine with it.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on September 02, 2010, 04:29:02 AM
Cool! :)

If you can handle waiting till after I'm done with school (and probably homework).

That's also the day that The Middle season two premieres...so I can't do it from 8:00 to 8:30...

Maybe that's not the best day... xD

And Thursdays won't work because I have TSA and piano.



If you want a really early suggestion, we're all off of school this Monday, no? We could do it then if you've finished.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 02, 2010, 06:28:44 AM
This Monday eh? I'll try to transfer my 'mons as quickly as possible then. I still have to transfer Regigigas and 'mons I can't get in HG. Shouldn't take me too long.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 02, 2010, 11:46:38 AM
Ill do a bunch of transfer stuff on Sunday then, maybe Saturday... I kinda wanted to write a bit, since my novel hasn't been touched in 3½ weeks
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 02, 2010, 12:47:54 PM
You're writing a novel? That's cool! Hope I'll be able to read it one day :D And yeah, I'll also have to do some intense trading this week-end. Dunno when I will since tomorrow I've got to go to school and then work, Saturday I'm off to Quebec City and I work on Sunday... I should be able to do it though. I hope so. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on September 02, 2010, 02:22:20 PM
I'm kinda trying to learn Postludium, but I'm going as slow as a Munchlax on Tamato berries.... (Munchlax and Shuckle have the lowest speed base stats in the game, Tomato berries raise your happiness but lower speed EV's....)
I've already learned Lost Woods (non-virtuoso), Minuet of Forest, Bolero of Fire, Serenade of Water, Prelude of Light, Nocturne of Shadow, and Requiem of Spirit. Basically, all the easy Zelda songs.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on September 02, 2010, 03:37:23 PM
A) Not the right thread for your piano hobbies
B) Quit trying to lecture us on Pokemon, we know eighteen times more than you do
C) Quite bragging, it doesn't sound impressive anyway

[/KF hypocrisy]

BTW, I see why KF does that...sometimes people need to be put in their place.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on September 02, 2010, 05:39:40 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on September 02, 2010, 03:37:23 PMA) Not the right thread for your piano hobbies
B) Quit trying to lecture us on Pokemon, we know eighteen times more than you do
C) Quite bragging, it doesn't sound impressive anyway

[/KF hypocrisy]

BTW, I see why KF does that...sometimes people need to be put in their place.
A) Sorry, it seemed like other people were posting songs they were learning...
B) I was? I never had the idea in mind that I knew more than anybody. I had the opposite idea, in fact....
C) Was I bragging? I specifically mentioned that those were the EASY songs from Zelda. I knew it wasn't impressive...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on September 02, 2010, 05:47:34 PM
You're fine! xD

I was in a bad mood, it's all cool now!

I was just bein' a jerk.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 02, 2010, 06:25:07 PM
GASP!

We have set the date for the Big Platinum Restart (it needs a better name) on Monday! Woo!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on September 02, 2010, 06:56:44 PM
The Epic NSM Platinum Journey sounds good to me!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 02, 2010, 07:14:39 PM
Haha yep, sounds awesome!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 02, 2010, 07:28:16 PM
Don't forget the Epic Mass Pokémon Transfer that will happen on Sunday (or Saturday for me)... haha!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on September 02, 2010, 07:50:42 PM
Oh yeah, I forgot to thank slowPokes for the TWG practice. Need working on my defense, lol.

Edit: Which is better forum ettic... etticate?: editing a post or double posting. I've seen people complaining about others double posting, so I'm gonna guess editing. Correct me if I'm wrong, though.
And of the new TCG set, HS - Triumphant expansion
Would you rather get the theme deck built around Mamoswine (Verdant Frost) or Nidoking (Royal Guard)?
I would get Verdant Frost and make my brother get Royal Guard, so I can switch whenever I want to. However, this is only the case if I actually get the chance to buy them. What about you?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on September 03, 2010, 06:22:27 PM
Editing is better ETIQUETTE. x)

But if it's been a while since a post (about a week) double posting is excusable because it marks this topic as new posts.

Anyway, I really love Pokemon. Want to order Pokemon Stadium soon.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 03, 2010, 06:50:52 PM
I'd like to get into TCG 'cause then I'd be able to enter VGC and TCG. But since there's no one to play with it'd be kinda hard.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 03, 2010, 06:57:29 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on September 03, 2010, 06:22:27 PMEditing is better ETIQUETTE. x)

But if it's been a while since a post (about a week) double posting is excusable because it marks this topic as new posts.

Anyway, I really love Pokemon. Want to order Pokemon Stadium soon.

There's a new one??
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 03, 2010, 06:59:49 PM
Nope. He's probably talking about the first one. The last "Pokemon Stadium" game is PBR.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 03, 2010, 07:03:28 PM
That may make sense... I never got PBR... idk why, though

I never really got into TCG... it was just REALLY confuzzuling when I was 10 (and I was an precocious/intuitive 10-year-old, too!)





Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 03, 2010, 07:07:28 PM
The only thing I know about TGC is the GBC game. It was awesome. But I guess I wouldn't go far with only that. I'd need to learn about strategies and stuff... I guess I'll stick to VGC. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 03, 2010, 07:27:35 PM
Same. I just got the cards cause 1)They went good with the game, 2) They looked cool 3) Everyone else collected them... but I was one of the first to start collecting them!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on September 04, 2010, 05:29:55 AM
What does PRB stand for? :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: The Deku Trombonist on September 04, 2010, 05:49:40 AM
PBR = Pokemon Battle Revolution
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on September 04, 2010, 10:14:06 AM
I love that game... if anyone's interested in battling me, tell me... I'll give you my friend code!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 04, 2010, 11:12:14 AM
I would if I had it!

I have finished transferring my Pokémon to SoulSilver, prete pour lundi!


Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 04, 2010, 01:58:25 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on September 04, 2010, 11:12:14 AMI would if I had it!

I have finished transferring my Pokémon to SoulSilver, prete pour lundi!




Prêt, not prête... unless you're a girl and we don't know x)
And I'm almost done. Still need to transfer some Pokémon before I can restart my game. Oh and I was wondering... when are we going to restart our game? Maybe we could discuss that on MSN or something.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 04, 2010, 02:03:28 PM
That is the plan... just get Slow to not be lazy and install it!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on September 04, 2010, 03:42:37 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on September 04, 2010, 02:03:28 PMThat is the plan... just get Slow to not be lazy and install it!

DUDE

Check your email! :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 04, 2010, 04:02:19 PM
I dont have an email from you... except the one from this morning.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on September 04, 2010, 04:02:45 PM
I'll send it again.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on September 04, 2010, 04:07:38 PM
Sent
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 04, 2010, 04:09:57 PM
Roz, I think the TV Tokyo one is in Japanese on KeyHole... which one is it exactly??
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 04, 2010, 04:12:43 PM
You need to click on one if you want to be able to see the channel's name. I can't say exactly which one it is... start browsing them from the bottom of the list.

Edit: Damnit, they're only showing Worlds footage! I already know what happened there! Show some BW stuff ffs! x)
Edit 2: I lol'd hard at the fact that they only showed footage of the junior division, probably because Ray Rizzo won against Yasuki Tochigi, hahaha. Unless they're going to show footage of the senior division next week... That would be unlikely though since it's supposed to be the big show with Junichi Masuda. And about the Musical part, they only showed the hall where they're going to take place. It lasted for what... 30 seconds? Kinda sucked.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on September 04, 2010, 04:41:02 PM
So no evolutions? :(
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 04, 2010, 04:43:04 PM
Nope. Basically it was Worlds Worlds Worlds Worlds Worlds Worlds Worlds Worlds Worlds Pokemon Musical.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on September 04, 2010, 04:43:46 PM
SUCKISH
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 04, 2010, 04:45:23 PM
Yeah really... especially because they showed stuff like favorite cards/Pokemon of the junior Japan's team... we don't give a fuck about that. xD
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 04, 2010, 04:49:10 PM
They have recently been showing things after the anime episodes... and the new CoroCoro should be coming to view soon!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 04, 2010, 05:03:08 PM
I'm pretty sure we'll get some news this week... I hope we get to see some new stuff before the huge Pokemon Sunday show!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 04, 2010, 05:04:31 PM
I hope so...

And I have a surprise, but I really can't divulge any information until Wednesday... that's all I can say!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 04, 2010, 05:24:39 PM
You mean about BW? Even if it's not, I really wonder what it is :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 04, 2010, 05:29:58 PM
I kinda feel bad, but it's my job. That's all I can say.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on September 05, 2010, 08:18:40 AM
If it's about Apple or iPods or Pads or whatever, I don't care. :D

But Pokemon, I do care.

I don't like Wednesdays, though. :(
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 05, 2010, 08:22:12 AM
Well I think he means about Pokemon since he posted it here. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on September 05, 2010, 08:31:19 AM
Yeah I know. :)

I was just messin' with him, the Apple fanatic.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 05, 2010, 10:42:15 AM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on September 05, 2010, 08:31:19 AMYeah I know. :)

I was just messin' with him, the Apple fanatic.

You know, that may be an insult... I just own Apple Products, and because I like technology, I am knowledgeable about some of their stuff

I DONT own an iPad or an iPhone... I just have computers that look pretty (and have some nice internal guts) and I have a music player that I use!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on September 05, 2010, 04:22:47 PM
Calm down!

I'm an Apple fanatic as well! :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 05, 2010, 04:54:31 PM
I sincerely doubt that (but evidence is good... not just because you have an iPod)

Oh, so our restart is in full effect! I've packed up all of my other games, so this is it, it seems like!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 05, 2010, 04:59:10 PM
Still have some 'mons to transfer, haha. I'll be done before we restart though!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 05, 2010, 05:16:42 PM
Ok! And we have a surprise for you Slow!!!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 05, 2010, 05:22:19 PM
Hope he'll like it :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on September 05, 2010, 06:38:25 PM
I do!

I signed in briefly (as Roz knows) and then got off...

LOL You guys are hilarious! Thanks! :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 05, 2010, 06:39:01 PM
It's our job... so is the time I sent you good?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on September 05, 2010, 06:42:01 PM
What, 3 o clock?

MAYBE

Maybe maybe maybe.

Because my grandmother is in town until this Saturday, we may be doing something (plus, tomorrow is the last day our neighborhood pool is open). I'll definitely try though. :P

If I'm not there at that time, you guys can start w/o me. Unless you feel like waiting. ;)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on September 05, 2010, 06:49:38 PM
Also

I am SO excited because Murph is a returning character in Pokemon Ranger 3! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

I love Murph, plus he has a Slowpoke for a partner.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 05, 2010, 06:50:53 PM
IM not sure if I want a Pichu with a Ukulele as a partner... maybe I might try it out after I get a job and then buy down my "Things to Buy" list
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on September 05, 2010, 06:52:19 PM
Yeah, there are definitely other things that come first.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 05, 2010, 07:08:57 PM
Yep... Books for Fall Quarter, an new iPod, Goldeneye for Wii, Civ V, more money for Starbucks, money so I can go out to dinner once a week, a new clarinet, new cookbooks, new stuff to fill my apartment (yes, I have to overcome my fears and walk into Bath and Body Works and Yankee Candle), and $3000 for a trip to China and Tibet (and possibly another $800 to go to Canada)... and some other things on my list (which is somewhere)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 05, 2010, 07:13:06 PM
You'd better try to visit me if you come to Canada :D
I think Pokemon Ranger 3 looks interesting. I wonder if we'll get something like the Manaphy Egg to transfer in other Pokemon games... maybe BW?
And I think we should wait for you Slow, since we said we'd all restart our games together.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 05, 2010, 07:15:12 PM
I don't think I'll be allowed to go past Moncton UNLESS my dad is there, and he drove up from Massachusetts, then we could take a "trip" to Quebec City... he is fluent in French, Lithuanian, Chinese and I think German (he did work for OTAN in Luxembourg for 9 or 10 years!)

Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Maretocks on September 05, 2010, 07:42:01 PM
So how 'bout that Pokemanz?

After having never owned my own handheld console, and thus no Pokemon games, my friend and I have decided we're going to buy GBA's, and a copy of either Red or Blue each, and Gold or Silver each. This is gonna be fun.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 05, 2010, 08:45:33 PM
Just don't get a GBA Micro... it can't play the older games!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Maretocks on September 05, 2010, 08:58:04 PM
I was tossing up between the fat purple one and the SP, which is better overall? And is the SP backwards compatible?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 05, 2010, 09:30:36 PM
Yep... the SP is better since it has a lighted screen and I've played Crystal and Gold on it... so it is backwards compatible
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Maretocks on September 05, 2010, 09:56:32 PM
Awesome, thanks. ^_^
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on September 06, 2010, 06:31:27 AM
Plus it has a backlight. Seriously. ;)

And I could be on AIM at 3. Maybe.

Either way, thanks for waiting... :P

EDIT: I think I might be gone today. Here's what I have to say: Start at 12 (DrP, that's 10 for you), and I'll start at that time even though I might not have Internet. I know that's early, but I think I might have a long car ride ahead of me, and Platinum would sure pass the time.

If you're both on AIM earlier than that, we'll start then.

Any questions? Good.

If you really want to wait until I get home, that's good too.

SECOND EDIT: Oh my God, I better transfer my team from Platinum to SoulSilver! I have a pretty amazing team!

Girafarig Lv37
Torterra Lv37
Scyther Lv37
Azumarill Lv37
Crobat Lv38
Luxray Lv38

o_O

How am I in Canalave City, and I never finished the game with a team like that???

BTW, I also have a Lv30-31 Probopass in my PC...I dropped it for Scyther.

BTW BTW, training tip: Use the VS Seeker to battle the trainer with Happiny above Solaceon Town about 800 times... Happiny give you SO MUCH EXP
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 06, 2010, 06:58:09 AM
If it's 10 for DrP, then it's 1 PM for me. I might work today, seems like someone can't work today... I'm feeling kinda sick, so I won't go anyway, haha. That should be okay with me.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on September 06, 2010, 07:20:47 AM
OH right, DrP is THREE hours behind EDT...

nvm.

And epic win on not going to work.

But, I guess we're not GOING anywhere, but I have to go to my frickin' neighborhood pool, where it will be crowded and ESPECIALLY cold since it's the last day the pool is open. ::)

Anyway, that'll only be a few hours. So.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 06, 2010, 08:27:03 AM
I'm effin working. It was either that or I was fired. ;_; At least I only work from 3 PM to 6 PM. Maybe we could restart our games tonight?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on September 06, 2010, 09:39:51 AM
I say we restart them at 1 pm EDT (earlier is better, but you have to let me know, and tonight is also fine).

I'm staying home from the pool because I have an AWFUL migraine... most likely because I had cheddar cheese this morning.

I lost my peripheral vision for an hour, but now I just have a headache over one eye... I need something to distract me.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 06, 2010, 11:05:12 AM
Tonight would be better for me since I'm about to go to work. I also need to transfer some Pokemon over... didn't have time to finish yesterday.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 06, 2010, 11:10:55 AM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on September 06, 2010, 09:39:51 AMI say we restart them at 1 pm EDT (earlier is better, but you have to let me know, and tonight is also fine).

I'm staying home from the pool because I have an AWFUL migraine... most likely because I had cheddar cheese this morning.

I lost my peripheral vision for an hour, but now I just have a headache over one eye... I need something to distract me.

Welcome to my world of aches and pains (except I don't lose my vision and I don't eat a lot of cheese anymore... gouda was once my weakness)

Quote from: Roz~ on September 06, 2010, 11:05:12 AMTonight would be better for me since I'm about to go to work. I also need to transfer some Pokemon over... didn't have time to finish yesterday.

J'agree! I think tonight would be better... I was slapped with a list of chores since I woke up at 9 this morning... I gotta start getting ready for school! (one of those chores is soaking meat in beer!)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on September 07, 2010, 12:41:29 PM
Quotebut now I just have a headache over one eye... I need something to distract me.
Well, meet me! I'm the master of distractions.... Oh yeah, I was doing my math homework before I posted this.... I'm actually being serious.... Click this link to go to a different page every time! What a wonderful distraction.... http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Special:Random (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Special:Random)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 07, 2010, 02:20:50 PM
actually, spending time on Facebook playing Farmville and Mafia Wars was the distraction from doing my homework! Luckily, I didn't procrastinate and I finished all my HW for 5 AP classes in less than 2 hours! I love Aplia so much!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on September 08, 2010, 03:27:09 AM
always ready to restart platinum at a minute's notice.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 08, 2010, 03:53:18 AM
You can restart it since we already did! I'm not too far in the game (I don't think DrP and Slow are too but I could be wrong) so if you restart it now you wouldn't be far behind!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on September 08, 2010, 04:02:23 AM
restarted. anyone have 10 million? I was late.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on September 08, 2010, 11:45:56 AM
I'm the weird trainer that seems to have been following you four ever since you REstarted your journey.... And no, I'm not the champion, I'm just good friends with her! lol....

The trainer who keeps following you seems to have several strong Pokemon, but is not willing to battle you....
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 08, 2010, 04:15:53 PM
Quote from: Jub3r7 on September 08, 2010, 11:45:56 AMI'm the weird trainer that seems to have been following you four ever since you REstarted your journey.... And no, I'm not the champion, I'm just good friends with her! lol....

The trainer who keeps following you seems to have several strong Pokemon, but is not willing to battle you....

You are one strange, little freshman, BigSig! I believe my strangeness overcomes all!

And BOOM, sayonara Roark!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on September 08, 2010, 04:17:40 PM
:o

I'm only just getting to Jubilife. T.T

Haven't been playing with homework and the like!

And I'm pretty strange myself.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 08, 2010, 04:18:38 PM
No, I'm the stranger one

I guess, I am pulling out strong... but I'm going to take a break until I can RNG something on HGSS... I really want to learn before I leave
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 08, 2010, 04:29:38 PM
That's why you need me to help you, right? x)

Also, people say I'm effin weird. So yeah.
I'm now in Floaroma Town, need to do the Valley Windwork thing. Grinding a little before doing that though.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 08, 2010, 06:36:46 PM
Ok, so I will say I am not strange/weird/whatever... All the people at my old school, for the most part, appreciate me... some people probably have some secret shrines of me (some kids from my band last year put up a poster with some pictures and my Steel Drum mallets on display... damn them)

I need to catch up to you Roz... ARRRGH!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 08, 2010, 07:07:44 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on September 08, 2010, 06:36:46 PMOk, so I will say I am not strange/weird/whatever... All the people at my old school, for the most part, appreciate me... some people probably have some secret shrines of me (some kids from my band last year put up a poster with some pictures and my Steel Drum mallets on display... damn them)

I need to catch up to you Roz... ARRRGH!

Haha, and I've only played for about an hour today. :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on September 08, 2010, 07:45:53 PM
I'm ahead of all of you with my level 80 team and level 60 team!! lol!!! ....
My other 14 died......
Along with my ds lite....
Which is why I'm not willing to battle any of you....
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on September 08, 2010, 07:48:31 PM
h4x
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 08, 2010, 08:24:35 PM
So, it seems like I fail at RNG'ng some Pokémon

Well, if the stuff Roz teaches me, I can always PokéSAV things up!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Dude on September 08, 2010, 08:57:36 PM
Isn't the RNG exploit technically cheating?

It's like looking at the answers for a test imo
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 08, 2010, 10:20:37 PM
It's not necessarily "cheating"... you're basically taking steps to "weed" out the weaker of the Pokémon to converge on that one standing in the center looking all helpless and BOOM, you capture (or hatch it)

I don't think that this much effort goes into cheating on a normal basis (except for programming hex characters into a little device)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 09, 2010, 03:56:13 AM
Quote from: Dude on September 08, 2010, 08:57:36 PMIsn't the RNG exploit technically cheating?

It's like looking at the answers for a test imo

No it's not. When you use Pokesav or any AR codes, you modify the coding of the game to get something you want. The RNG helps you getting Pokemon with desired HP, nature, shininess, etc. Basically it's a tool that helps you get legit 'mons without using any external devices to get what you want. It's not cheating, we're only using the game coding at our advantage. There wouldn't be a huge community RNGing 'mons if it was considered as cheating.

Quote from: drpamplemousse on September 08, 2010, 08:24:35 PMSo, it seems like I fail at RNG'ng some Pokémon

Well, if the stuff Roz teaches me, I can always PokéSAV things up!

Meh, don't Pokesav them. They'd be legit hacks, but still... =/ It's really hard at first (took me 3 hours to get my Suicune) but it's worth it. You shouldn't think that you'll be breeding some sweet 'mons right away. It takes a lot of practice, sometimes days before you can RNG something good (though now it's a whole lot easier because of Pikatimer). It's easier to RNG stationary legendaries like Suicune; maybe you should try that first.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on September 09, 2010, 04:28:11 AM
It's cheating in my book, but technically the game is not being tampered with in any way...

You're just abusing the conditions... Which is not as bad as PokeSav.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on September 09, 2010, 08:05:46 AM
Meh, Ir eprefer breeding methods and EV training.... although I haven't really done that, lol.
Oh yeah, since I'm the newbie, I have a question.
Pokemon A fights Pokemon B with 2 speed EV's. Pokemon C is holding an experience share. When Pokemon A beats Pokemon B, do Pokemon A and Pokemon C each get 2 speed EV's?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on September 09, 2010, 09:08:30 AM
yes
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 09, 2010, 10:08:58 AM
Of course we go through EV training! I probably do it more than others. I decided to try the more legit way of RNG to get some good Pokémon from the field, instead of checking a few boxes, holding down L and R and then catching the pokémon... you have to be extremely precise when you do RNG mechanics... 1 second off and you can mess up big time
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 09, 2010, 10:27:57 AM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on September 09, 2010, 04:28:11 AMIt's cheating in my book, but technically the game is not being tampered with in any way...

You're just abusing the conditions... Which is not as bad as PokeSav.

At least we're working hard to get our 'mons. I hate it when people are too lazy to try to breed and just Pokesav them 'cause that the easy way around.

Quote from: drpamplemousse on September 09, 2010, 10:08:58 AMOf course we go through EV training! I probably do it more than others. I decided to try the more legit way of RNG to get some good Pokémon from the field, instead of checking a few boxes, holding down L and R and then catching the pokémon... you have to be extremely precise when you do RNG mechanics... 1 second off and you can mess up big time

Haha yep. Happens a lot at first but it's pretty sweet when you get the hang of it.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on September 09, 2010, 10:45:45 AM
I tried pokesav once and then realized I don't care enough to figure how to work it.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 09, 2010, 10:45:53 AM
I got some pretty good Delays (all under 500) and I was able to hit 16 seconds everytime... major breakthrough!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 09, 2010, 11:26:11 AM
Quote from: Shadoninja on September 09, 2010, 10:45:45 AMI tried pokesav once and then realized I don't care enough to figure how to work it.

Pokesav's really easy to use actually. Not that complicated.

Quote from: drpamplemousse on September 09, 2010, 10:45:53 AMI got some pretty good Delays (all under 500) and I was able to hit 16 seconds everytime... major breakthrough!

Then you could try to RNG something!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 09, 2010, 11:30:14 AM
Quote from: Roz~ on September 09, 2010, 11:26:11 AMPokesav's really easy to use actually. Not that complicated.

Then you could try to RNG something!

PokéSAV is really easy to use... you just have to make sure you're doing it right!

Roz, we just have to talk further steps after the calibration phase!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on September 09, 2010, 12:28:53 PM
Part of the reason it feels so accomplishing to get a shiny Pokemon or perfected breeding Pokemon WITHOUT Pokesav is the work that it took to get it.... I've personally never used any hacking devices (or game code reading devices), EXCEPT one time when Rogbzz gave me a chance to catch Shaymin using the walk-anywhere, since I missed the mystery gift. I killed it (and turned the game off). So technically, it's as if I never used one. Oh, and in case if your wondering who Rogbzz is.... Well, just tell me when any of you reach Hearthome city. Then I'll make a semi-rpg post about how the guy that walks you around town takes you to see me, where I tell you my life story (lol) and how so many of my Pokemon died....
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 09, 2010, 01:34:09 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on September 09, 2010, 11:30:14 AMPokéSAV is really easy to use... you just have to make sure you're doing it right!

Roz, we just have to talk further steps after the calibration phase!

Haha okay, no problem! I'm working tonight but I should be able to help you when I get back home since I've no school tomorrow morning!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 09, 2010, 01:40:10 PM
BigSig: I don't know why, but lots of your posts really don't make much sense, kinda confusing... like you're speaking Finnish to me (which in Finnish, it takes about 3 sentences to one English one). Maybe I am just not reading them right... any chance you aren't from the US or the UK (or Australia or Kiwi-land or Canada)...

Roz: Whenever's fine! I just wanna get this RNG stuff down before I pack up everything!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on September 10, 2010, 11:52:08 AM
I'm definitely from the US.... Are my sentences too bunched together and complex to understand? Let me try to space out my last post....

QuotePart of the reason it feels so accomplishing to get a shiny Pokemon or perfected breeding Pokemon WITHOUT Pokesav is the work that it took to get it....
I've personally never used any hacking devices (or game code reading devices), EXCEPT one time when Rogbzz gave me a chance to catch Shaymin using the walk-anywhere, since I missed the mystery gift.
I killed it (and turned the game off).
So technically, it's as if I never used one. Oh, and in case if your wondering who Rogbzz is.... Well, just tell me when any of you reach Hearthome city.
Then I'll make a semi-rpg post about how the guy that walks you around town takes you to see me, where I tell you my life story (lol) and how so many of my Pokemon died....
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 10, 2010, 01:09:04 PM
maybe that's why... I have a tendency to skip around if text doesn't have at least have some space under it... Though I hate using double spacing... it makes my essays unnecessarily long (since they already are)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on September 10, 2010, 01:51:20 PM
My teachers demand double-spacing. Way easier to read. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 10, 2010, 01:55:55 PM
Here they ask for 1,5 spacing. Not that it's important.
Finally went through Valley Windworks, my team's starting to take form.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 10, 2010, 02:55:45 PM
Yep! I have four out of the six I have planned... I had to trade one from HG, but... it still counts  :D

I am in the Eterna Forest currently... but I'll get out of there and start writing my final chapter in STS for a while... cause I'll be busy the first week I am gone (it is like Church Camp... from 9AM to 11PM for 5 days... gotta love college orientation)

Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on September 10, 2010, 04:56:54 PM
Really cool remixes of Ruby/Sapphire music, done in the style of HGSS...

Shoal Cave (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VxHiVdqB6s&p=E619F557C595A49D&index=4)
Fortree City (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjJze3b0ock&p=E619F557C595A49D&index=1)
S.S. Tidal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3J_ikwsx20&p=E619F557C595A49D&index=3)
Brendan Encounter (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xEOSCMTsQU&p=E619F557C595A49D&index=5)
Littleroot Town (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldvO6IRxfnY&p=E619F557C595A49D&index=6)
Team Aqua Encounter (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cy9kZ8tBWFU&p=E619F557C595A49D&index=7)
Slateport City (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiBePbSiSlE&p=E619F557C595A49D&index=8)
Petalburg Woods (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiBePbSiSlE&p=E619F557C595A49D&index=9)
Rustboro City (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiBePbSiSlE&p=E619F557C595A49D&index=10)
Dewford Town (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiBePbSiSlE&p=E619F557C595A49D&index=11)

I thought they were pretty cool, Shoal Cave being my favorite.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 10, 2010, 05:00:21 PM
Ill take a look at them later!!!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on September 10, 2010, 05:00:53 PM
You do that!!! :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Dude on September 10, 2010, 07:58:47 PM
Touhoumon > Pokemon

Haven't played the newest version of it though.
Info here :3 (http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Touhou_Puppet_Play)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on September 10, 2010, 08:06:38 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on September 10, 2010, 04:56:54 PMReally cool remixes of Ruby/Sapphire music, done in the style of HGSS...

Shoal Cave (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VxHiVdqB6s&p=E619F557C595A49D&index=4)
Fortree City (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjJze3b0ock&p=E619F557C595A49D&index=1)
S.S. Tidal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3J_ikwsx20&p=E619F557C595A49D&index=3)
Brendan Encounter (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xEOSCMTsQU&p=E619F557C595A49D&index=5)
Littleroot Town (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldvO6IRxfnY&p=E619F557C595A49D&index=6)
Team Aqua Encounter (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cy9kZ8tBWFU&p=E619F557C595A49D&index=7)
Slateport City (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiBePbSiSlE&p=E619F557C595A49D&index=8)
Petalburg Woods (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiBePbSiSlE&p=E619F557C595A49D&index=9)
Rustboro City (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiBePbSiSlE&p=E619F557C595A49D&index=10)
Dewford Town (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiBePbSiSlE&p=E619F557C595A49D&index=11)

I thought they were pretty cool, Shoal Cave being my favorite.
might I also point you to this
Grass and Lightning Clubs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VdgQ5j2pUc)
my only problem is what I commented on the video.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Dude on September 10, 2010, 08:27:10 PM
Quote from: Dude on September 10, 2010, 07:58:47 PMHaven't played the newest version of it though.
I just played it and oh my god it's better than I would have ever thought.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperRiolu on September 10, 2010, 09:48:10 PM
I finally bought Platinum on Thursday, so I might as well join you all!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on September 11, 2010, 01:26:33 PM
Still voted Tsutaja. :)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on September 11, 2010, 04:13:43 PM
So, here's my Platinum status:

Two Pokemon Lv12, on the end of Route 203 (right before Oreburgh Gate).

If you want me to name it, I will, but I'd rather keep it a surprise for now. ;)

How about we all reveal our teams once we've beaten five Gyms? By then, our teams should be formed.

Any objections?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 11, 2010, 04:59:27 PM
Well, for me... my team won't be formed until Sunyshore...

Let's see... five pokémon around Lv 25 and I just beat Fantina this morning!

I'm guessing you went with a Shinx?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on September 11, 2010, 05:07:57 PM
Nope! I didn't! I didn't use a typical choice at ALL.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 11, 2010, 06:42:43 PM
Bidoof? Starly? Magikarp? Budew?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on September 11, 2010, 07:10:28 PM
Nope, nope, nope, nope. :)

And no, I have not traded Pokemon.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 11, 2010, 07:42:18 PM
Kricketot? Wurmple (or Cascoon/Silcoon/Dustox/Beautifly)? Abra? Geodude?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 11, 2010, 08:09:14 PM
Are you going to try to guess 'em all? xD
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 11, 2010, 08:18:17 PM
Until I get it right...

Also, Pokémon Sunday didn't really have many prospects, even though Junichi Masuda appeared...

Here's a Synposis of what Masuda confirmed:
The design team had been working on the games for four years.
No pre-Generation V Pokémon are available until after the National Pokédex has been obtained.
No previously introduced characters such as Professor Oak will be in the games.
Cheren and Bel are childhood friends.
The starter Pokémon is a gift from the player character's parent, rather than Professor Araragi.
Team Plasma Grunts use Minezumi.
Minezumi's Pokédex information was shown (below).
There is a Poké Mart inside a Pokémon Center.
Pokémon Trainer N has the cat-like Pokémon Choroneko.
Cut can be used to pass through a gate.
Makomo will give the player a C-Gear if they show her a Munna.
Victini was shown in battle.
New Pokémon were shown, including Desukaan (the mummy one), Denchura (the electric spider), Ononokusu (the tusk dragon), and Baoppu (the fire monkey) was seen as a silhouette.

Also, there was a scene from BestWishes showing Slowpoke dancing to Billie Jean, from Michael Jackson's Black or White
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperRiolu on September 11, 2010, 10:06:04 PM
I am so excited for BW to come out!!! I am going to download a ROM once they can get it working for NO$GBA!!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on September 12, 2010, 09:09:10 AM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on September 11, 2010, 07:42:18 PMKricketot? Wurmple (or Cascoon/Silcoon/Dustox/Beautifly)? Abra? Geodude?

Nope, nope (nope/nope/nope/nope), nope, and nope.

You're still missing a few. :)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 12, 2010, 09:27:11 AM
Ponyta? Machop? Onix? Psyduck?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 12, 2010, 04:41:14 PM
Gotta guess 'em all! xD

Quote from: SuperRiolu on September 11, 2010, 10:06:04 PMI am so excited for BW to come out!!! I am going to download a ROM once they can get it working for NO$GBA!!

I think I'm going to do that too. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on September 12, 2010, 06:48:30 PM
Nope, nope, nope.... YES YES YES!!!
Took you forever, huh?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 12, 2010, 07:37:19 PM
So you have been in the Oreburgh gate!!!

I think I may do the EMU thing again!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on September 19, 2010, 07:10:36 AM
...And, Roark has been defeated. Just got Flash and the third member of my team, potentially.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 19, 2010, 08:24:36 AM
Still in Eterna forest. I don't have time to play at all! :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on September 19, 2010, 08:42:45 AM
I'm gonna train something from Eterna Forest! :)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on September 19, 2010, 10:57:51 AM
just got the oreburgh badge.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 19, 2010, 02:24:16 PM
Wow... I am still just sitting and waiting on Route 215... la di da! haha. I havent had the time to play video games this week... except my work on getting the bugs out of the American version of Huin City (and I won't spoil it's name, either... so HA)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on September 19, 2010, 04:28:50 PM
I was at AWA!!!!!!!! I saw Pokemon black on sale!!!!!!
It was the Japanese version, of course!!!!!!!!!
.....
It was 75 bucks. I only had 50. T_T f*** lol
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on September 23, 2010, 05:04:39 PM
Current Platinum team:

GROTLE Lv20
PSYDUCK Lv20
******* Lv20 (my newly caught/trained Pokemon)
****** Lv20

I'm in Eterna Forest... I spent forever training in the grass till all of my Pokemon (including my newest one, native to the Eterna Forest) to Lv20. Gotta take advantage of Cheryl's healing abilities while you have them, am I right? :)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 23, 2010, 07:54:18 PM
Yep! and What I love about BW, once you get to route 3, there is darker grass, and you have a 50% chance of having a double battle... it is the same place where you can catch a Shimama!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on September 24, 2010, 04:22:05 AM
I have a question--the Triple Battles look really stupid and difficult, so are there still a lot of normal single battles? Or is it all triple or double with a bit of single thrown in?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: KefkaticFanatic on September 24, 2010, 06:53:41 AM
Everything is a triple battle now.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on September 24, 2010, 08:06:30 AM
Pokemon A, B, and C versus A, B, and C.
A can only attack A, C can only attack C, but B can attack any of them.
Triple battles are simpler than they sound.

And yes, I'm aware that all of you already know how they work;
they were only meant to be supporting sentences to the third statement....
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 24, 2010, 08:21:39 AM
^Are you that afraid of being told that we already know it?

Didn't have time to continue my Plat game yet. Haven't touched it for ~3 weeks so you guys really are ahead of me :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 24, 2010, 11:10:30 AM
Quote from: Roz~ on September 24, 2010, 08:21:39 AM^Are you that afraid of being told that we already know it?

Didn't have time to continue my Plat game yet. Haven't touched it for ~3 weeks so you guys really are ahead of me :P

I haven't either... so much preparation for college, but I am free for the weekend... gonna write, go food shopping, possibly go SLOBound... haha, and read a SHIT-TON for class on monday!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on September 24, 2010, 11:51:22 AM
If I hadn't said that, Slow or someone else would have said, "We already know that,"
and then I would have to explain how I already knew that they knew that.
Instead, I explained it beforehand.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on September 24, 2010, 01:44:42 PM
Quote from: Jub3r7 on September 24, 2010, 08:06:30 AMPokemon A, B, and C versus A, B, and C.
A can only attack A, C can only attack C, but B can attack any of them.
Triple battles are simpler than they sound.

And yes, I'm aware that all of you already know how they work;
they were only meant to be supporting sentences to the third statement....

isn't it A can only attack A and B, and C can only attack B and C?

Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on September 24, 2010, 06:53:41 AMEverything is a triple battle now.
whoooah triple battle.. it's so beautiful!! what does it mean?!??!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 24, 2010, 01:46:10 PM
If people would've taken time to read through new posts they would've seen that Slow wanted to know if triple battles' mechanics are complicated. They would've also seen that you clarified them for him. No one would've said that. (at least I think so.)

Quote from: Shadoninja on September 24, 2010, 01:44:42 PMisn't it A can only attack A and B, and C can only attack B and C?
whoooah triple battle.. it's so beautiful!! what does it mean?!??!

I think that's it... A and C can both attack 2 'mons and B can attack all of them.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on September 24, 2010, 02:20:36 PM
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi113.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn208%2Fshadoninja%2Ftriplebattle.jpg&hash=133d1714b7ad33c0e736ab2dd93760b6759d3d11)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 24, 2010, 02:33:08 PM
Pokémon B can be in the Best OR the Worst spot, since it can attack all, but it can be attacked by all, too...

As an FYI, Hiun City is a BITCH to navigate. It definitely is like NYC
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on September 24, 2010, 07:56:52 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on September 24, 2010, 08:21:39 AMDidn't have time to continue my Plat game yet. Haven't touched it for ~3 weeks so you guys really are ahead of me :P

No, I'm about to battle the Galactic boss in Eterna City. You're still way ahead of me, I think!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 24, 2010, 08:26:14 PM
Nope I'm not, I'm not even in Eterna Forest! I should have time to play in 2 weeks since we have an autumn break there, haha.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 25, 2010, 09:48:21 AM
Im trying to remember where I exactly left off... oh right, I just arrived in Veilstone City!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 25, 2010, 10:16:06 AM
I'm breeding pokemon on HG... I missed that :D I think it's a lot of fun. Just bred an hex-flawless Miltank. What should I breed now?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on September 25, 2010, 01:57:01 PM
Shiny female starters?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 25, 2010, 02:39:02 PM
Maybe a Shimama!!! haha! How about a flawless Dratini or a flawless/shiny Charizard...

Oh, and to date, I have bred 6 flawless Pokémon!!! (and two shinies: Buizel and Charmander)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 25, 2010, 04:18:43 PM
Quote from: Jub3r7 on September 25, 2010, 01:57:01 PMShiny female starters?

Female 'mons are useless since they can't pass down egg moves. I stick to males one. And starters are overrated.
(That kinda sounds sexist but it's still true! xp)
Quote from: drpamplemousse on September 25, 2010, 02:39:02 PMMaybe a Shimama!!! haha! How about a flawless Dratini or a flawless/shiny Charizard...

Oh, and to date, I have bred 6 flawless Pokémon!!! (and two shinies: Buizel and Charmander)

Already have both of the ones you mentioned. :P
I think I'll go for either Jynx or Houndoom. Ah, I'll just breed them both. x)
And I'm happy to see that you can finally RNG! Hope I was helpful!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 25, 2010, 04:25:12 PM
You were COMPLETELY!!! you clarified lots of questions... if I could send you a Chipotle giftcard, I would!!!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on September 25, 2010, 04:44:12 PM
I love Smoochum!

Tip: Either teach Jynx the TM Psychic, make it an Egg move, or don't evolve Smoochum until it learns it.

Because Jynx learns no Psychic-type moves. :(

Final moveset should go something like Psychic, Ice Beam, and then maybe for attack moves, Shadow Ball, Energy Ball, Wring Out, or Signal Beam; and for status moves, go with Calm Mind, Lovely Kiss (possible Dream Eater or Sleep Talk), or Sweet Kiss.

:)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 25, 2010, 04:46:44 PM
I already know what I'm going to choose as Jynx's moveset:
Nasty Plot/Psychic/Ice Beam/HP Fire 70.
Should be something like that... might change it's HP type.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on September 25, 2010, 07:02:14 PM
It would be good to have a Water move, because Fire-types will destroy it.

And I looked on Bulbapedia, I didn't think it could learn Nasty Plot... So I suggested Calm Mind instead. I guess if you breed with a Toxicroak it could happen... :-\
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 25, 2010, 07:27:03 PM
You breed it with Hypno. No big deal. And a water-type move on Jynx? That's pure nonsense. Unless you're either retarded or just a brainless twat you WILL switch out on any threat you see. You also have to consider 2 things : Jynx is in the NU tier, it's rarely and never used in UU and OU respectively. Plus it has an excellent base speed of 95 meaning it can outspeed a lot of 'mons in NU.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Winter on September 25, 2010, 07:37:57 PM
What do UU OU and NU mean?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Sekter77 on September 25, 2010, 07:55:22 PM
Basically they're just the names of the tier rankings given to groups of pokemon in the competitive battling community. NU stands for Never Used. UU is Under Used, and OU or Standard is Over Used. There's also an Uber tier reserved mostly for legendaries. Jynx being NU just means she's on the lowest tier compared with the others. For some more detailed info on tiers you should check Smogon's website. They are pretty much the largest and most committed pokemon battling community.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Winter on September 25, 2010, 08:09:44 PM
Like Online Battling?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on September 25, 2010, 08:11:39 PM
it's more like competitive battling. not necessarily online or local.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Winter on September 25, 2010, 08:13:01 PM
Well okay...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 25, 2010, 08:38:01 PM
and with BW, you can battle online... since you can upload your game status online and play it there!!!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on September 25, 2010, 11:26:19 PM
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DO WANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 26, 2010, 07:37:57 AM
^Epic win.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on September 26, 2010, 09:06:02 AM
Weepinbell is the coolest. :3

I'm revealing my Platinum team right now--

GROTLE Lv23
PSYDUCK Lv23
GOLBAT Lv23 (I met this at Lv10, so I was like, "Cool I don't have to go through the annoying Zubat stage!")
BUNEARY Lv23 (AWW IT'S ADORABLE, and a Hasty nature makes its Speed even better)
GABITE Lv24 (my most recent addition, met at Lv19)

Thinking about Houndour for final Pokemon, since Ice-types will destroy Torterra, Crobat, and Garchomp.

Any suggestions?

Also, you guys don't need to reveal your teams, I just want suggestions.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 26, 2010, 10:33:27 AM
Well, Ill be nice and reveal one more!!

I do have a full team currently, but it isn't final (so I will show the one's I may/may not be keeping)

Prinplup Lv 28
Shellos Lv 28
Togepi Lv 1
Luxio Lv 27
Roselia Lv 26
Buizel Lv 23
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on September 26, 2010, 11:24:25 AM
For some reason I never liked Shellos/Gastrodon....

Time to reveal my teams!
Pearl
Original Team: (all lvl. 80)
Torterra
Gyrados
Machamp
Staraptor
Palkia
Alakazam

New Team: (all lvl. 60)
Torterra (son (or grandson) of the original)
Empoleon
Infernape
Blissey
Salamence
Froslass

HeartGold teams (they died....)
Original team: (They were about level 40 something when they died...)
Feraligatr
Venomoth
Togekiss
Arcanine
Aerodactyl (traded from Pearl)
Dragonair

Poison Team (they were about level 30 when they died....)
Venomoth
Golbat
Haunter
Nidoking
Nidoqueen
Ariados/Riolu (The league I wanted to join allowed one Pokemon of a different type, I remembered that after training an Ariados....)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 26, 2010, 02:10:12 PM
I really love the move "Boiling Water"! The water move with 80 power and can cause a burn!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on September 26, 2010, 02:12:17 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on September 26, 2010, 10:33:27 AMWell, Ill be nice and reveal one more!!

I do have a full team currently, but it isn't final (so I will show the one's I may/may not be keeping)

Prinplup Lv 28
Shellos Lv 28
Togepi Lv 1
Luxio Lv 27
Roselia Lv 26
Buizel Lv 23

That's a great idea in training two Water-types... then you can teach one Waterfall and another Surf and can gratify them with diverse movesets. Togepi for me was going to be an option to replace Golbat or Buneary, but it had Hustle rather than Serene Grace... which immediately turns me off to it.

However, I think you should get rid of either Buizel, Shellos, or Prinplup... Unless you want a Gym Leader setup to use at the Battle Tower! Because three of one type isn't normally a good idea. I'm inclined to tell you to rid yourself of Buizel since it is a pure Water-type and will not gain another type.

So, for my final Pokemon, you gave no suggestions! ;D

I'm considering:
Houndour
Pikachu
Rotom
Duskull
Gardevoir/Gallade
Alakazam
Mr. Mime
Blissey
Octillery
Weavile
Espeon
Magnezone
Porygon-z
Magmortar
Froslass
Absol

And I'm seriously considering replacing Torterra with:
Leafeon (now that you get Eevee in Hearthome)
Carnivine
Abomasnow
Tangrowth
Hippowdon
Mamoswine

Please help me narrow this down!!!

ALSO

Quote from: drpamplemousse on September 26, 2010, 02:10:12 PMI really love the move "Boiling Water"! The water move with 80 power and can cause a burn!

I saw that and it looks cool!!!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on September 26, 2010, 02:56:35 PM
who needs a kettle when you have a pokemon with boiling water?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on September 26, 2010, 05:18:41 PM
lol

And I like your new personal text, shadoninja.

"I'm not odd. I'm odd-ish."

That's definitely on my "favorite quotes of the week" list.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on September 26, 2010, 07:03:58 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on September 26, 2010, 05:18:41 PMlol

And I like your new personal text, shadoninja.

"I'm not odd. I'm odd-ish."

That's definitely on my "favorite quotes of the week" list.

J'agree! It made my week... awesome Pokémon puns!!

Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperRiolu on September 26, 2010, 11:06:33 PM
I finally beat Cynthia on Platinum. It took a while, but I managed to get far enough!

I can't wait to try out the Battle Frontier on Platinum with the Fight Area and the Resort Area!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on September 28, 2010, 04:00:01 PM
This is such a great song from HeartGold and SoulSilver--EXTREMELY creepy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N98rwBUMNPw

For some reason, the outside theme doesn't give me that same chill. .__.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperRiolu on September 29, 2010, 08:11:39 AM
It does have that ominous feeling hanging over it
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on September 29, 2010, 11:58:40 AM
I don't think the feeling was creepy; rather, mysterious...
The mysterious power of Unown swarms; the ability to write their own story...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Winter on September 30, 2010, 06:05:23 PM
i never liked that particular unown song cause they leave out a verse. but its still alright
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 01, 2010, 04:26:52 AM
Yeah, and the original is so much better...and ANNOYING. Ilex Forest was the bane of my Silver version life.

Pretty sad that everything seems so easy now... It's not the game, though. Something must have changed in me... :(
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperRiolu on October 01, 2010, 11:15:33 AM
I remember when I first played gold, I got lost in dark cave and it took me almost 20 mintues to get out once I got lost
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Winter on October 02, 2010, 01:16:20 PM
I did the same thing :D I'm the type to explore everything i see before i get the right items, and dark cave just looks so enticing laying right in front of you before violet city, If only i knew ahead of time how soon you get flash. and btw the Dark Cave soundtrack rocks!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on October 02, 2010, 03:17:37 PM
I personally never liked it that much... I love "grandeur" like my ending theme!!! (which now I have to listen to!)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 02, 2010, 06:56:47 PM
The ending theme is just alright for me. I prefer the remix (aka Canalave City).
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on October 02, 2010, 07:54:04 PM
I was referring to the GS/HGSS ending theme
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 03, 2010, 06:13:24 AM
I know. It's pretty much the same tune as Canalave with a few tweaks.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on October 03, 2010, 11:13:55 AM
Still... I like the ending theme better... Canalave is great and all, but with that epic key change, you can't go wrong there!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 03, 2010, 04:08:29 PM
Yeah, you're right in that respect! xD

Also, did you notice that End Theme: Canalave as Olivine Lighthouse: D/P Elite Four Battle?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on October 03, 2010, 04:55:03 PM
I am just noticing that as you just said it.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 03, 2010, 04:57:02 PM
I spent about 20 minutes upon first entering Mt. Silver as to where I had heard the song before.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on October 03, 2010, 05:00:12 PM
Should have time to finally continue my Plat game next week. Also means I'm going to try to breed a crapload of 'mons.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on October 03, 2010, 05:02:24 PM
I might be able to play a bit next week once the test craze dies down at the end of next week
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on October 11, 2010, 06:00:01 AM
Hmm, any ideas as to what I should breed in HG?
Also, might be able to finally get to Eterna Forest this week... finally :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 11, 2010, 01:33:14 PM
Haven't played at all since Dawn gave me the Vs Seeker and the Dowsing Machine.

Breed a Leafeon. Make sure you give it good use of its rather high Attack power.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on October 11, 2010, 02:36:53 PM
Hmm yeah, thought about breeding all of the Eeveelutions. Might as well get to it now that I can.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 11, 2010, 03:19:58 PM
Umbreon is one of the coolest in design but sadly the worst in terms of movesets... perhaps it can be improved through TMs...

Leafeon is my favorite out of them, and also pretty good; probably the best physical sweeper of the family.

Espeon is probably the best in terms of Special Sweeper, Glaceon also works in this category.

Flareon, Jolteon, and Vaporeon work best when complemented by one another.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on October 11, 2010, 03:40:25 PM
I just realized that all the signatures of the people on this page who posted all sound a little bit philosophical, except mine. >_<
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 11, 2010, 03:49:12 PM
Mine isn't philosophical. It represents something that is going on in my life.

Wait. That is philosophical. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on October 11, 2010, 03:51:22 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on October 11, 2010, 03:19:58 PMUmbreon is one of the coolest in design but sadly the worst in terms of movesets... perhaps it can be improved through TMs...

Leafeon is my favorite out of them, and also pretty good; probably the best physical sweeper of the family.

Espeon is probably the best in terms of Special Sweeper, Glaceon also works in this category.

Flareon, Jolteon, and Vaporeon work best when complemented by one another.

Wtf. Umbreon's moveset coupled with its typing and awesome defense makes it on of the best wall out there. I really don't get why you say that.
Anyway. Umbreon and Flareon ftw.
Also looking for a good hatch location for a Chatot in HG, any suggestions?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 11, 2010, 03:53:01 PM
How about Route 212, or whichever one has the Pokemon Mansion? I think it's 212.

That's a good spot, plus it has amazing music. Best Route music in the game... anyone agree?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on October 11, 2010, 03:54:03 PM
I said in HG, not in Plat. Could trade it to hatch it there but shiny Chatot > Chatot. So yeah.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on October 11, 2010, 06:38:05 PM
I just realized I my Pokémon desire and all is diminishing... normal cycles of life and all... maybe once BW comes out here in the US next year it shouldn't be a huge issue anymore... uh oh
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 11, 2010, 06:43:07 PM
Yeah, like I said, I'm gonna force myself to play Emerald... way more fun than Platinum. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on October 11, 2010, 09:33:34 PM
I don't know what's happening. My Zelda desire is at an all time low, and for the first time in five years is Pokémon actually better than Legend of Zelda on the list
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on October 12, 2010, 09:59:17 AM
Since you are going to work on the actual game after the English translation, you feel more involved in it than any other game you have played.
Along with that, Shigeru Miyamoto and Satoshi Tajiri really did their best to make this a NEW generation, fresh and breathable, with NEW species, and NEW features that make the game feel fresh and anew.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on October 12, 2010, 10:21:16 AM
I also did it for Spirit Tracks, Pearl, and I think Partners in time
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on October 12, 2010, 01:15:24 PM
But none of them were actually new; you knew what to expect from the sequels of those games...
You would expect to know what to expect from BW, but they made sure it was a new experience for all players.
Give Game Freak 2 thumbs up from (for) me!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 12, 2010, 01:23:00 PM
No, Partners in Time was completely unpredictable. I had no idea what to expect of it.

And Pokemon is always better than Zelda for me.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on October 12, 2010, 02:32:16 PM
My favorite Zelda game was Ocarina of Time, but my favorite game is Pokemon. In general.
And this post's subject is General Pokemon. What a coincidence!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on October 12, 2010, 02:47:12 PM
Comparing an adventure/action game with a RPG's kinda pointless imho.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 12, 2010, 02:48:46 PM
LOL

Yep. So, hold on. Are the Mario platformers also action/adventure? ???

Also. Playing Emerald. Sootopolis is like the best song ever! Not really, but it's good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Saq03CLqTFk

^Link to song
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on October 12, 2010, 02:49:15 PM
well Pokémon is an adventure game (i know some people who say it)... you do travel across the regions and follow a storyline.. seems adventurous to me!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 12, 2010, 02:53:13 PM
It's technically an RPG. It may be adventurous, but it's not in the action/adventure category.

The difference? The way the game goes depends on you. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on October 12, 2010, 02:54:13 PM
and that's why its an RPG... the experience is different between each player and how they perceive the game
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 12, 2010, 02:55:00 PM
Yep! That's also why I love the Mario and Luigi series! A good RPG is hard to beat. A bad RPG (95% of them) is just irritating.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on October 12, 2010, 04:00:13 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on October 12, 2010, 02:55:00 PMYep! That's also why I love the Mario and Luigi series! A good RPG is hard to beat. A bad RPG (95% of them) is just irritating.

95% are bad? Nonsense. Most of them are awesome, though some really are crappy.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 12, 2010, 04:02:02 PM
I'm going by what I've played. xD

I like really good RPGs.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on October 12, 2010, 06:26:44 PM
It's obvious you're talking about video game RPG's, but...
A lot of RPG's are text-based, board game style, or D&D style. None of which involve videos...

Oh well, don't mind me. I'm just getting a little bit obsessive over this one text-based MUD I found...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 12, 2010, 07:24:04 PM
Gonna train my Raikou in SS for the battle frontier...

Roz, DrP, and anyone else--moveset ideas?

BTW it has calm nature... :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on October 12, 2010, 08:00:11 PM
I'm guessing HP's not an option since you probably have no idea what you're EVs are... unless there's a dude that tells you what type it is like in DPPt? I just use my IVs to find it out so I ain't sure. Anyways, as for your Raikou's moveset...

Thunderbolt's a given, Shadow ball too for some nice coverage. You could also go with Calm Mind and/or Substitute, those moves are always useful. Otherwise Charge beam can also be good if you want more stab. Usually it's just one Electric move but since you probably don't have HP Ice/Grass/Fighting you could go with that.

So yeah, I'd go for something like
TBolt/Charge Beam/Shadow Ball/CM or Sub
or
Tbolt/Shadow Ball/CM/Sub

Hope that helps.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on October 12, 2010, 08:04:12 PM
I think there's a guy in the celadon game corner that tells you the hidden power type of a pokemon.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on October 12, 2010, 08:10:54 PM
Yeah, makes sense. What sucks is that you can't know what power is your HP though.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on October 13, 2010, 12:57:12 AM
Uh.... i have no clue... 1) im really busy now 2) im kinda leaving pokémon fandom until christmas break 3) im still trying to restore CSF into my brain after it collapsed... seems my temporal and parietal lobes were working overtime for the past week or so... now I just have too much going on with class and music and applying for a summer internship at Lockheed, Boeing or Apple... still undecided ATM

But once you guys get to Veilstone in Platinum, lemme know... i may play a little bit!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 13, 2010, 02:57:48 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on October 12, 2010, 08:00:11 PMI'm guessing HP's not an option since you probably have no idea what you're EVs are... unless there's a dude that tells you what type it is like in DPPt? I just use my IVs to find it out so I ain't sure. Anyways, as for your Raikou's moveset...

Thunderbolt's a given, Shadow ball too for some nice coverage. You could also go with Calm Mind and/or Substitute, those moves are always useful. Otherwise Charge beam can also be good if you want more stab. Usually it's just one Electric move but since you probably don't have HP Ice/Grass/Fighting you could go with that.

So yeah, I'd go for something like
TBolt/Charge Beam/Shadow Ball/CM or Sub
or
Tbolt/Shadow Ball/CM/Sub

Hope that helps.

Kay

Is Substitute a TM now? Because I still have trouble remembering what the 4th Gen TMs are... -_-
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on October 13, 2010, 03:08:58 PM
Yes it is.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 13, 2010, 03:10:19 PM
Got it. I'll do that soon, maybe.

Hmm, should it have a move to counter Ground-types?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on October 13, 2010, 03:14:58 PM
That would be HP Grass. Raikou's movepool lacks different typings so that's why we usually rely on it, but since you probably don't have it I don't think you can counter them.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on October 14, 2010, 12:41:41 PM
the day care people must not have taken biology or health class. "We were raising your pokemon, and my goodness, we were surprised!   Your pokemon had an egg. We dont know how it got there, but your pokemon had it"
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 14, 2010, 07:39:18 PM
Congratulations, Universe. You aren't the most immature anymore.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on October 14, 2010, 08:59:30 PM
Sorry, I'm just tired... I really am.
I never got used to waking up in middle school, and now I'm in high school...

FML
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 15, 2010, 04:30:12 AM
LOL, sorry. :)

I hated middle school. High school is so much cooler... once you get past the initial... shock.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on October 15, 2010, 07:24:58 AM
^College ftw!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on October 15, 2010, 08:10:11 AM
Quote from: Roz~ on October 15, 2010, 07:24:58 AM^College ftw!

the FTW says it all... College beats any other grade level anyday!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 15, 2010, 02:42:32 PM
Can't wait till I go to college, kinda. I really like high school. I want to be a high school English teacher, actually, despite the horrible pay. Dx
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on October 15, 2010, 02:50:36 PM
This isn't sarcasm: I can REALLY see a Slowpoke as an English teacher.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 15, 2010, 02:59:51 PM
You mean because I use proper grammar most of the time? ???
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on October 15, 2010, 04:16:28 PM
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi113.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn208%2Fshadoninja%2FIsAnnTall-1.png&hash=19f5c912beb147051778d47c510707211a64e243)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 15, 2010, 04:27:26 PM
LOL

You're epic, Shadoninja, because you just kind of lurk in the thread, then come in with some random comment or photoshop/paint job.

Like that!

EDIT: Also,
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pokecharms.com%2Fforums%2Findex.php%3Faction%3Ddlattach%3Battach%3D418%3Btype%3Davatar&hash=88d3a1ab58e2ce2b77e0042ff088525abf97a707)

LOL
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Taser9090 on October 15, 2010, 05:11:19 PM
Kindergarten is the best grade, as we get nap time and play time.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on October 15, 2010, 06:32:27 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on October 15, 2010, 04:27:26 PMLOL

You're epic, Shadoninja, because you just kind of lurk in the thread, then come in with some random comment or photoshop/paint job.

Like that!

EDIT: Also,
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pokecharms.com%2Fforums%2Findex.php%3Faction%3Ddlattach%3Battach%3D418%3Btype%3Davatar&hash=88d3a1ab58e2ce2b77e0042ff088525abf97a707)

LOL


Old animation is old.

Also, Mew's a pain to RNG. Stupid random nature. ><
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 15, 2010, 07:00:09 PM
I need to change my Wi-Fi settings or something so I can download it (and battle you all).
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on October 15, 2010, 07:26:45 PM
That'd be great. I thought about holding some kind of small tournament between NSM users but I don't think we're enough people to do that.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 15, 2010, 07:27:56 PM
We should get you, me, and Dr. Pamplemousse, and then someone else, to do a multi battle--two team up against two more in double battle.

If you can do that over Wi-Fi.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on October 15, 2010, 07:45:50 PM
You mean kind of like when you're doing the battle frontier with a friend? Hmm, I really don't think it's possible.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on October 15, 2010, 07:54:01 PM
*raises hand*
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on October 15, 2010, 08:01:32 PM
I'm sure there are a couple more people that could join us too.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on October 15, 2010, 08:26:57 PM
*raises hand*
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on October 15, 2010, 08:37:49 PM
I was including you in that "us" :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on October 15, 2010, 08:56:28 PM
yay!!!!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on October 15, 2010, 10:24:48 PM
...Is it time for me... to play Pearl again?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Winter on October 15, 2010, 10:56:49 PM
Quote from: Jub3r7 on October 15, 2010, 10:24:48 PM...Is it time for me... to play Pearl again?
I'm playing pearl :) started a new file last week
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on October 16, 2010, 02:35:20 AM
Well... im doing nothing... I am probably going to become less active over time until I get my four year plan in order... which means I will have to choose two out of four minors to declare (Wine and Viticulture, French, Music or Packaging [it's literally packing a product in boxes... CP has the 2nd best program for pkng in the nation... and companies love that attached to the major])

I might play Platinum once I write my Psych paper!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on October 16, 2010, 09:41:55 AM
Sign up list:

1. SlowPokemon
2. Roz~
3. Shadoninja
4. Jub3r7
5. drpamplemousse

My stupid idea:
If the double battle idea doesn't work, we could do some kind of tournament with different themes in mind.
For example, battles where only Pokemon of a certain type are allowed, with every battle being one-on-one.

Oh, and if the double battle does work, then you four can do it without me.
I don't want to force anyone else to be excluded from something like that, so... yeah.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on October 16, 2010, 09:46:10 AM
I think the only possible way of battling like that is in the union room, not in Wifi. And yep, that's a pretty good idea, using mono teams and stuff like that.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Winter on October 16, 2010, 10:16:49 AM
Heart gold is compatible, i have a better file on it, can i join?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on October 16, 2010, 10:28:30 AM
Sure thing! :)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Winter on October 16, 2010, 10:44:54 AM
Sweet, though I should probably evolve my Pupitar first :/
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on October 16, 2010, 10:46:50 AM
Pokemon NSM Tournament Group - 6 users so far!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 26, 2010, 06:06:26 PM
Going through HeartGold again. Playing as a girl, used Lyra's Japanese name (Kotone). I named my rival Lyra, it's hilarious.

Anyway, I thought I'd make the game a real challenge by going through on a Grass starter solo run. Crap is this hard. Going into my third time facing Bugsy.

Also, just ordered off eBay Pokemon Stadium, brand new, sealed, transfer pak included... for $10.50 with $5.95 shipping... Anyway, looking forward to that. Haven't played it in a long time.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 27, 2010, 04:29:45 AM
Some idiot came in just as the auction ended and won it from me, grr. >:(
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on October 27, 2010, 09:36:13 AM
Well that sux.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 27, 2010, 01:30:15 PM
Found another one, pretty much same thing, but starting bid of $25.00, with $4.00 shipping. :P

There are no bids, but it ends five days from now.

Also, just beat Bugsy and my Bayleef grew to Lv24! :)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on October 27, 2010, 09:02:59 PM
Seems rip-off-ish...

I need to order some of the new Wii games... and I need to take Mario Kart from my roommates... they start playing at 7 AM and stop at 1 AM... logging almost 15 hours of gameplay total every day!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on October 28, 2010, 04:12:39 AM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on October 27, 2010, 04:29:45 AMSome idiot came in just as the auction ended and won it from me, grr. >:(

You know that's what you're supposed to do in that kind of auction, right? Otherwise you're going to lose 'em all.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 28, 2010, 04:26:37 AM
Yeah, I got that, but I've never ordered off eBay before. :P

And that's a LOT of Mario Kart.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on October 28, 2010, 11:42:48 AM
They spent AT LEAST 10 hours trying to get dry bowser... needless to say, I an pwn anyone with a Mach Bike! haha
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 28, 2010, 04:43:18 PM
LOL

And this is the BEST GIF ever so someone should put it as their avatar. :3

Not really, but it's a really memorable scene from a great game.

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffc06.deviantart.net%2Ffs70%2Ff%2F2010%2F041%2F4%2F4%2FGrovyle_The_Thief_by_ghaskan.gif&hash=1b44e3348a23121038d7f0238de3d1bc36dc777e)

Takes forever for it to move, though. xD
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Winter on October 28, 2010, 04:45:27 PM
haha, I'll use it!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 28, 2010, 05:30:59 PM
LOL it suits you.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Winter on October 28, 2010, 05:32:19 PM
Really it does?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 28, 2010, 05:42:18 PM
Mm-hmm. See post in Post Your Thoughts of the Moment Thread for an interesting comment.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: KefkaticFanatic on October 29, 2010, 04:53:06 PM
The anime writer died today.  Hemorrhage.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 29, 2010, 05:58:58 PM
:o
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on October 29, 2010, 06:21:07 PM
Former anime writer*
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 29, 2010, 06:22:01 PM
This is no time for jokes.

Although I have to admit I laughed.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on October 29, 2010, 06:24:08 PM
It's not a joke?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 29, 2010, 06:25:19 PM
OHH I just looked it up, he really was a former anime writer!

I thought you meant that he was a former anime writer, as in, he DID write, but now he can't.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on October 29, 2010, 06:31:51 PM
I'd never joke about dead people.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on October 29, 2010, 09:43:56 PM
I read the article on bulbapedia before they updated it to say he died...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on October 30, 2010, 04:12:11 PM
That kinda sucks about that anime writer guy.

I do have even worse news... I am going on break from Pokémon...

I have been playing Mario Kart, trying to finish NSMB Wii (which I am telling myself jut get passed the desert level) and playing TP, MM, OoT, ALttP, WW and LoZ over again... I may start again on ST, but I may be Zelda'd out after I finish... but I am so ready for SS!

Je peux le retourner de temps en temps.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on October 30, 2010, 04:27:38 PM
French sentence does not make sense.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on October 30, 2010, 04:51:52 PM
it isn't!

its called improv english... where one literally translates to make one sound like they have class attached (according to the ML Department head)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 30, 2010, 05:10:24 PM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on October 30, 2010, 04:12:11 PMThat kinda sucks about that anime writer guy.

I do have even worse news... I am going on break from Pokémon...

I have been playing Mario Kart, trying to finish NSMB Wii (which I am telling myself jut get passed the desert level) and playing TP, MM, OoT, ALttP, WW and LoZ over again... I may start again on ST, but I may be Zelda'd out after I finish... but I am so ready for SS!

Je peux le retourner de temps en temps.

I cannot see why NSMBW was so fun... I need to play it again. :P I never got past the second (desert) world. I need to force myself to do that one of these days (when I'm not tied up with Pokemon Blue).
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on October 30, 2010, 05:11:47 PM
I just want to see if theres anything special beyond the desert world
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 30, 2010, 05:15:06 PM
Yeah, I shouldn't judge things by the first level.

I still love SMB3 the best, but NSMB for the DS was awesome. My brother and I love going on Mario vs. Luigi... ;)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on November 01, 2010, 12:35:44 AM
I really liked SMB2 a lot... it was kinda cool.

and the desert world is the 2nd level
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on November 01, 2010, 08:04:10 AM
Yeah, the Wii version of NSMB is pretty fun, but after you get far enough, it starts to feel a little repetitive.
I don't have the DS version, though... Is it good?

Oh, right, this is a Pokemon topic, isn't it?

The Halloween special Origin of Species column makes me want the following:
A Teru Teru Bozu that looks like Castform, and a TTB that looks like Shuppet.

Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on November 01, 2010, 02:02:38 PM
Banette scares me. Seriously. .__.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on November 01, 2010, 02:05:39 PM
I think it's ugly. Like almost every single 3rd gen 'mons.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on November 01, 2010, 02:07:20 PM
:(
Poor Banette, shunned by people even after it was discarded...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on November 01, 2010, 02:07:56 PM
Banette and Shuppet (along with Dusclops and Duskull) are pretty weird. :P Always hated Shuppet and Banette, but I actually liked Duskull's evolutionary line.

It's weird how Sinnoh's Dusknoir looks less ugly than its pre-evolutions. xD
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on November 02, 2010, 10:27:06 AM
Dusknoir FTW,

I only liked around 40% of the Gen III Pokémon
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on November 02, 2010, 10:29:02 AM
In real life, we have to accept the fact that some animals are ugly. XD
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on November 02, 2010, 11:07:25 AM
Thank you Jub.

Although it would be hard to explain how real-life Cyclops Ghosts are ugly. -_-
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on November 02, 2010, 02:18:10 PM
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi113.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn208%2Fshadoninja%2FWailord_balloon.png&hash=ac3581bf58f215a12b94916491e8ed5baf743a68)

lolwut?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on November 02, 2010, 02:30:21 PM
Explaining that Wailord doesn't have a pimple.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on November 02, 2010, 03:37:43 PM
Umm, I'm pretty sure that's a Skitty.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on November 02, 2010, 03:54:58 PM
^Win!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on November 05, 2010, 01:23:23 AM
I stopped playing platinum because it's soooo boring.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on November 05, 2010, 04:11:33 AM
Same here, actually. I prefer Gen III.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on November 05, 2010, 04:20:00 AM
Also, speaking of GenIII, have you ever noticed that May and Brendans' themes are the same as the Ever Grande City theme? It's also heard somewhat differently on Route 104. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on November 05, 2010, 04:29:24 AM
I never really paid much attention to their themes. May have to take a listen.

Speaking of Gens, I noticed that Red is the only protagonist that does not have any mandatory interaction with the mother. the closest thing would be in FR/LG when the mother gives the running shoes to the aide to give to you after you beat brock.

Gold gets the pokegear from his mother and she also saves money for you.
Ruby has a few conversations about the father, tells you to change the time on the clock, and gives you running shoes.
Diamond gets a few messages about their rival and warnings not to go into the grass, tells them to thank rowan, and even finds out that she participates in contests.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on November 05, 2010, 04:32:04 AM
Yep, in the originals there WERE no running shoes, so there is no mandatory conversation--if you talk to her, she says, "Right...all boys leave home someday. It said so on TV."

-_-
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Sekter77 on November 05, 2010, 09:47:30 AM
Not only is it strange that there is no mandatory interaction with the protagonist's mom, there's no reference whatsoever to a father for some reason. There's also the fact that these characters are 10 years old when they go off exploring an entire continent on their own!

Pokemon is actually really screwed up if you think about it. Just visit TV Tropes' Nightmare Fuel page for Pokemon and you'll find tons of examples.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on November 05, 2010, 12:00:40 PM
Although the father has been a definite source of fan fiction.
http://mareodomo.com/#425319/Letters-To-An-Absent-Father (http://mareodomo.com/#425319/Letters-To-An-Absent-Father)

Red/Ash's father might possibly be the champion in some region far away.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: dahans on November 05, 2010, 12:41:51 PM
Quote from: Sekter77 on November 05, 2010, 09:47:30 AMNot only is it strange that there is no mandatory interaction with the protagonist's mom, there's no reference whatsoever to a father for some reason. There's also the fact that these characters are 10 years old when they go off exploring an entire continent on their own!

Pokemon is actually really screwed up if you think about it. Just visit TV Tropes' Nightmare Fuel page for Pokemon and you'll find tons of examples.

You are absolutely right... Many people consider Ash's mom "overcaring". She wouldn't let him go on his own, if she would be a good mom... xD

Quote from: Jub3r7 on November 05, 2010, 12:00:40 PMAlthough the father has been a definite source of fan fiction.
http://mareodomo.com/#425319/Letters-To-An-Absent-Father (http://mareodomo.com/#425319/Letters-To-An-Absent-Father)

Red/Ash's father might possibly be the champion in some region far away.

A lot of people think that giovanni is his dad... *cough*

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Palletshipping
But this is utmost ridiculous xD.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on November 05, 2010, 01:35:05 PM
No, Giovanni is the rival in Gold and Silver's dad. Seriously, it's a fact. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on November 05, 2010, 01:56:57 PM
^Yep. It also is in the Pokemon manga so there's no reason to say it's not true.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on November 05, 2010, 02:52:05 PM
^^There's no saying that Silver can't be Ash's half-brother, I think... or even brother, but I guess Delia would care about both her kids, if she had two.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on November 06, 2010, 11:11:00 AM
Yeah, Silver actually makes a cameo appearance in the anime.
Look in the "In other media" section of this page:
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Silver_(game)#In_other_media (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Silver_(game)#In_other_media)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperFireKirby on November 06, 2010, 01:33:35 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on November 05, 2010, 01:35:05 PMNo, Giovanni is the rival in Gold and Silver's dad. Seriously, it's a fact. :P
Though it's usually not a good idea to be the rival of an international crime boss.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Sekter77 on November 06, 2010, 03:56:48 PM
I didn't actually know that. But that's because I only really play the main games. I hardly know any of the expanded storylines.
But that's pretty cool! No wonder Ash is such a promising trainer. His dad took on the leader of basically the Pokemon Mafia!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on November 06, 2010, 06:49:21 PM
Quote from: Sekter77 on November 06, 2010, 03:56:48 PMI didn't actually know that. But that's because I only really play the main games. I hardly know any of the expanded storylines.
But that's pretty cool! No wonder Ash is such a promising trainer. His dad took on the leader of basically the Pokemon Mafia!

You should have played them better! There's a guy in FireRed/LeafGreen who works for Team Rocket on Five Island warehouse--return after you beat the warehouse, and engage him in conversation. He says: "You...you're not Giovanni's kid, are you? Hmm, I guess not...Giovanni's kid has red hair."

xD
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Winter on November 06, 2010, 06:56:30 PM
Oh gosh you're right, I remember that
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Sekter77 on November 07, 2010, 12:01:24 AM
I actually never played FR/LG either. When I said main games, I excluded all the remakes as well. No Yellow, Crystal, Platinum, Emerald, or HG/SS. I know a lot about pokemon compared to most other people I know, but I've really been demoted here! I don't know nearly as much as you guys.XD
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Winter on November 07, 2010, 12:17:19 AM
Oh no, I don't know all that much about Pokemon, I've just played all the games too many times, I watched the first 30 episodes too, but that's all :/
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: dahans on November 07, 2010, 03:30:16 AM
Hmmm it's true, you know a lot about pokemon xD. Me too! (But just in german xD)
I've played EVERY pokemon game (except for: crystal, pearl and SoulSilver (I really don't want to write the abbreviated word)) and I've watched about 400 episodes and the first 3 movies.

Has anyone watched all of them?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on November 07, 2010, 08:07:16 AM
Not yet. I can't find the episode "A Parent Trapped" from season 5, EP221...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on November 07, 2010, 08:09:30 AM
DrPamplemousse watched them all. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on November 07, 2010, 08:22:06 AM
I watched them all 'till Hoenn and I stopped. I started watching them agaim during the Sinnoh League and I'm now watching Black and White. I may watch Hoenn during my Christmas vacations if I feel like it.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Sekter77 on November 07, 2010, 10:03:51 AM
I've seen the first three movies too. Looking back on them, they were really ridiculous, especially the first movie. It's weird how much more emotional they seemed when I was younger, but now they're just hokey. But I haven't seen a whole lot of the anime, just scattered episodes from Kanto and Johto which were also seen when I was younger.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperFireKirby on November 07, 2010, 10:17:58 AM
I watched the enitre first season, but I fell away from it not long afterwards.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on November 07, 2010, 10:29:30 AM
Well... I havent watched all of the episodes since mid September, since I couldn't get them here at school afterwards.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperFireKirby on November 07, 2010, 10:30:43 AM
I have an Isshu with Black & White.

^Har har
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on November 07, 2010, 10:48:50 AM
oh wow... we SO didn't know that. thanks for enlightening us

My sarcasm will now be italicized.

I've actually taken a break from Pokémon for a moment... I may pick up platinum in a few days when I have a FOUR DAY WEEKEND!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: dahans on November 07, 2010, 11:42:31 AM
Of course! You have to! :D

Do you admit that you like Pokemon? How do people react when you tell them about that?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on November 07, 2010, 12:45:05 PM
I've gotten mixed reviews from saying that.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on November 07, 2010, 04:30:23 PM
Here people laugh and say you're retarded when you tell them you like Pokemon. Hmm.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on November 07, 2010, 04:46:03 PM
Thats probably the majority of the mixed reviews
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on November 07, 2010, 04:59:59 PM
Except here they're not mixed, everyone says that.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Sekter77 on November 07, 2010, 06:14:41 PM
Actually, most people in my dorm love pokemon too. It's never a faux pas to bring up your favorite 'mon. I'm lucky to be in a welcoming environment, but I'm sure if I moved to any other parts of campus I would be derided for it.

It's kind of sad that people think growing up means burying what they loved as a child rather than having the courage to continue to enjoy what made their childhood.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on November 07, 2010, 07:10:34 PM
^True. Every single person who told me that Pokemon sucks/is stupid were huge fans back then.

Also, someone requested a battle on PO earlier today. I wasn't really paying attention 'cause I was doing something for gym class, but anyways. He was down to one 'mon and I had 3 left. He said something like "That's exactly how I wanted it to be. I'll be able to defeat you with only this Pokemon". He then proceeds to send Jaroda out. I let him kill my Machamp only to be able to switch to Heatran. I pwnt him. LOLZ
Also, he kinda whine after that, but w/e.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on November 07, 2010, 11:13:31 PM
People in my apartment dont really give a damn about pokemon... except that it was awesome when they were in 2nd grade...

all my roommates play now is jak... cause we now has a ps2
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperFireKirby on November 08, 2010, 11:44:19 AM
You have a PS2?

GET DARK CLOUD 2.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on November 08, 2010, 12:48:15 PM
^Agreed. Epic game is even beyond any epic things you've ever witnessed.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on November 08, 2010, 01:22:54 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on November 07, 2010, 07:10:34 PM^True. Every single person who told me that Pokemon sucks/is stupid were huge fans back then.

Also, someone requested a battle on PO earlier today. I wasn't really paying attention 'cause I was doing something for gym class, but anyways. He was down to one 'mon and I had 3 left. He said something like "That's exactly how I wanted it to be. I'll be able to defeat you with only this Pokemon". He then proceeds to send Jaroda out. I let him kill my Machamp only to be able to switch to Heatran. I pwnt him. LOLZ
Also, he kinda whine after that, but w/e.
Nice. Oh, and thanks to you, I figured out what w/e means without looking it up. XD

Something to discuss: (Yes, Slow, I know it's 1 day old)
Also, tons of Pokemon distributions for Pokemon Black and White.
Tabunne is being distributed in different Pokemon centers in Japan.
Different Pokemon eggs are being distributed.
QuoteThe contents of these eggs will be one of three currently-unknown Pokémon. The one to be obtained will be selected at random.
The egg distribution will start the same day that Ash gets a Pokemon egg in the BW anime, along with the release of "Black and White collection" (TCG Expansion) in Japan.
Event-exclusive croagunk available with passwords from CoroCoro's November issue...
Passwords for Kanto starters will appear in an issue of Pokémon Peer...
Passwords for Hoenn starters appear in a player's guide that has yet to be released...
Passwords for Sinnoh starters will appear in the "Beginning Set" (TCG set).
QuoteFrom Sept. 18 to Nov. 1, fans could vote for a Pokémon that will be obtainable in the Pokémon Global Link.
Arceus won the dream-world poll, so that's another of the distributions.

WELL, now we know THAT'S over with....
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on November 13, 2010, 12:25:00 PM
might as well post some questions I had while playing pokemon red.

if bill was accidently combined with a pokemon, where does the pokemon go when you fix him?

how does the bike shop owner in cerulean city get business if all his
bikes cost 1 million pokedollars and he has bike vouchers?

why doesn't the celadon game corner sell or give away coin cases? where would you get them if it wasn't for the broke guy at the restaurant? speaking of the restaurant, why are they always on break?

what reason did silph co. have to develop a silph scope. was there a high demand for ghost sight seeing?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on November 13, 2010, 01:06:26 PM
Quote from: Shadoninja on November 13, 2010, 12:25:00 PMspeaking of the restaurant, why are they always on break?

And how do THEY do their business when you can't buy any food?

I always wondered myself how people around the seventh/eighth badge towns managed to raise Pokemon, when they could only battle their weak ones against high-leveled ones.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on November 13, 2010, 01:38:13 PM
Quote from: Shadoninja on November 13, 2010, 12:25:00 PMmight as well post some questions I had while playing pokemon red.

if bill was accidently combined with a pokemon, where does the pokemon go when you fix him?
Seeing as he has a huge machine connected to a PC there, supposedly back to some storage system

how does the bike shop owner in cerulean city get business if all his
bikes cost 1 million pokedollars and he has bike vouchers?
My guess is that PokéDollars are either a trainer-only currency (hence why you can only buy Pokémon-related equipment with it), or it's worth next to nothing, so what you earn and lose in battles is only symbolic sums anyway (and all items are heavily subsidized, perhaps by a "trainer's license" that your mom takes care of paying). A million PokéDollars might not be that much for a "civilian". Seeing as very few trainers in the game own bikes (apart from bikers, who don't appear to be able to collapse their bikes, indicating that they might not be from the Bike shop), I guess the item is not really meant for trainers. Still, the shop owner looks like he respects trainers, and might hand out some vouchers to promising younglings for marketing (for instance, Rydel's bikes have his name plastered all over them), as the trainers travel all over the region with their bike. Look at it like sponsoring athletes.

why doesn't the celadon game corner sell or give away coin cases? where would you get them if it wasn't for the broke guy at the restaurant?
Perhaps there is an age limit on selling gambling equipment to minors in the Pokémon world, and some bureaucrat thought that it would be a sufficent protection if the Coin Case was prohibited for sale at the Game Corners. The Coin Case might be powered by the same container technology as the PC system (seeing as it can hold ten thousand coins and still only take up minor room in your backpack), and might therefore be patented. The guy in the restaurant either doesn't care (he's obviously tired of gambling and probably hates the place), or is to full/drunk that he doesn't realise what he's doing.

speaking of the restaurant, why are they always on break?
The woman at the desk is always on duty. Day on, day off. No breaks. She might be awfully tired (who wouldn't, apart from the seemingly brainwashed nurses in the Pokémon centres?), have a bad day, or hate kids. She justs wants to reject as many potential customers as possible, so she can get fired and get away. Thing is, her boss is so busy supplying the guys who have their eternal eating contest going that he doesn't realise that she does an intentionally crappy job

what reason did silph co. have to develop a silph scope. was there a high demand for ghost sight seeing?
I guess the media has covered the ghost sightings to such a degree that revealing what is behind them has become a prestige project. Silph co. obviously has too much money anyway (as evident by their overly large headquarters, with a fountain larger than the Sinnoh Lakes in the lobby), and some scientists have too much time on their hands.

Answers? All made up, of course...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on November 13, 2010, 02:11:08 PM
Quote from: SuperFireKirby on November 08, 2010, 11:44:19 AMYou have a PS2?

GET DARK CLOUD 2.

It's not mine... I DO own a Playstation (that original, large grey one that came out in 1997 or 1998). I am thinking of getting a PS3, but need to find the one that can play PS2 games
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on November 17, 2010, 01:35:24 PM
Me and my brother are in roughly the same spot in Blue/Red. My team has undergone a few changes.

I've been to all the towns/cities except the Indigo Plateau.
I've battled all the routes, including water, except for the one right below Fuchsia City.
I've beaten four Gyms--Brock, Misty, Lt. Surge, Erika, and Koga (plus the Fighting Dojo).
My PokeDex is 37.
My team:
Venusaur Lv41
Pikachu Lv41
"Omy" Omastar Lv41
"Marmag" Magmar Lv41
"Kabra" Alakazam Lv41
Nidoqueen Lv 41

Moves:
Venusaur--Body Slam, Toxic, Leech Seed, Razor Leaf
Pikachu--Thunderbolt, Mega Punch, Thunder Wave, Agility (Pikachu sucks in RBY)
Omy--Water Gun, Withdraw, Horn Attack, Surf
Marmag--Ember, Leer, Confuse Ray, Strength (Magmar only knows Ember until Lv36 [Leer] and then 39 [Confuse Ray], then I taught it Strength)
Kabra--Teleport, Psychic, Recover, Psybeam (and it only learns one more move--Light Screen)
Nidoqueen--Surf, Body Slam, Scratch, Poison Sting (Scratch will be Earthquake)

Omastar can't learn any Rock moves in this game (:(), so Ice Beam is either going to it or Nidoqueen (no one else can learn it). Probably it because its Special is really high.

If you're interested, my brother has "Bulb" (Venusaur), "Shocker" (Raichu), Kabutops, Hitmonlee, "Rockey" (Golem), and "Nido" (Nidoking).

Please rate my team and stuff, etc.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperFireKirby on November 17, 2010, 02:04:44 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on November 17, 2010, 01:35:24 PM(Pikachu sucks in RBY)
Should've gone with Jolteon...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on November 17, 2010, 05:59:29 PM
^If he can teach Surf to his Pikachu then he should keep it.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on November 17, 2010, 06:33:25 PM
Which is why I'm not evolving it before I get Pokemon Stadium.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Sekter77 on November 18, 2010, 08:24:21 AM
Quote from: Cobraroll on November 13, 2010, 01:38:13 PMAnswers? All made up, of course...

I just want to say that those are all surprisingly plausible. I would never have been able to rationally explain all that stuff.
The biggest question for me in Pokemon is How do new pokemon keep getting discovered? As in, going back to Kanto in Gold and Silver had loads of new pokemon that weren't there in the previous games. Are they invasive species or something? How did they manage to stay under the radar for so long?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Winter on November 18, 2010, 04:17:13 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on November 17, 2010, 01:35:24 PMMe and my brother are in roughly the same spot in Blue/Red. My team has undergone a few changes.

I've been to all the towns/cities except the Indigo Plateau.
I've battled all the routes, including water, except for the one right below Fuchsia City.
I've beaten four Gyms--Brock, Misty, Lt. Surge, Erika, and Koga (plus the Fighting Dojo).
My PokeDex is 37.
My team:
Venusaur Lv41
Pikachu Lv41
"Omy" Omastar Lv41
"Marmag" Magmar Lv41
"Kabra" Alakazam Lv41
Nidoqueen Lv 41

Moves:
Venusaur--Body Slam, Toxic, Leech Seed, Razor Leaf
Pikachu--Thunderbolt, Mega Punch, Thunder Wave, Agility (Pikachu sucks in RBY)
Omy--Water Gun, Withdraw, Horn Attack, Surf
Marmag--Ember, Leer, Confuse Ray, Strength (Magmar only knows Ember until Lv36 [Leer] and then 39 [Confuse Ray], then I taught it Strength)
Kabra--Teleport, Psychic, Recover, Psybeam (and it only learns one more move--Light Screen)
Nidoqueen--Surf, Body Slam, Scratch, Poison Sting (Scratch will be Earthquake)

Omastar can't learn any Rock moves in this game (:(), so Ice Beam is either going to it or Nidoqueen (no one else can learn it). Probably it because its Special is really high.

If you're interested, my brother has "Bulb" (Venusaur), "Shocker" (Raichu), Kabutops, Hitmonlee, "Rockey" (Golem), and "Nido" (Nidoking).

Please rate my team and stuff, etc.

Who's going to use Fly?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on November 18, 2010, 05:07:29 PM
I hate Flying Pokemon. So, a Pidgey that I keep in my PC. I hate being forced to have a Fly Pokemon on my team, so I'm not using one. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Winter on November 18, 2010, 05:22:40 PM
Yeah, that's what I did in leaf green cause of the island thing, you can fly from kanto the the sevii islands, and heart gold, cant fly from kanto straight to johto.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on November 20, 2010, 07:42:56 AM
http://www.filb.de/games/tools/aikotoba
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on November 22, 2010, 06:19:31 PM
I did not know that.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on November 22, 2010, 07:27:45 PM
Gonna replace the battery in my Silver. So I'll be able to save. 8)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Winter on November 22, 2010, 07:35:58 PM
hehe, my silver still works
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on November 22, 2010, 07:36:46 PM
>;P

Well, my Blue still works. So. Ha. And stuff.

My brother should get a Gold so when we finish our Red/Blue we can do that.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on November 23, 2010, 08:35:31 AM
Has anybody here gotten all five trainer stars yet? (Gen IV)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on November 23, 2010, 08:37:42 AM
Well, I've got a couple... I have two Crown of Leaves or whatever they're called. I've beaten the Elite Four. I think that might be it. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on November 23, 2010, 10:11:25 AM
One more star... the battle tower... dun dun dun

I got the Shiny Leaves and made them into a crown.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on November 23, 2010, 10:28:42 AM
The Athlon was the first one I got, but then I didn't get the rest because of that stupid mall...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on November 23, 2010, 12:12:13 PM
Hmm, I might have the Pokeathlon, what do you need to do?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on November 23, 2010, 03:08:13 PM
By that I mean the PokeAthlon star was the only one I had, before that terrible event of losing HG at the mall happened.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on November 23, 2010, 05:09:54 PM
WHAT DO YOU NEED TO DO TO GET THE POKEATHLON STAR???? xD
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on November 23, 2010, 05:32:49 PM
Reach the final room
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on November 23, 2010, 05:49:32 PM
These are  some of the bookmarks that I set for my browser:

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Nature
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_effort_value_yield
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Characteristic
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Trainer_stars (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Trainer_stars)

I thought that last one would apply to you.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on November 23, 2010, 06:10:28 PM
Meh, I'm not interested in completing the national Pokedex.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on November 23, 2010, 06:24:55 PM
WELL TOO BAD SPINDA, BECAUSE THE BRAIN WILL EAT YOU.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on November 23, 2010, 06:26:35 PM
:o
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on November 23, 2010, 09:37:36 PM
Spinda DOES suck... pretty much. THey are EXTREMELY annoying on that one route.


I also found out that Nintendo changed the original release date. It really sucks... cause I liked the first one!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Ruto on November 23, 2010, 09:59:24 PM
Off topic and probably mentioned before but the new starters...wtf. The designs aren't bad, but what is Tepig supposed to mean? There's a "pig" in it, but "Te" is what you get when you misspell "the". I'd be happier with Pokabu, Porkabu or even Piggu.  >:(
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on November 23, 2010, 10:22:47 PM
apparently it's a play on the word "tepid"
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Ruto on November 23, 2010, 10:34:24 PM
Whoops, I noticed there was a real thread for this -__-

Tepid? They could have picked a better sounding word...or one that doesn't also mean "meh".
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on December 01, 2010, 09:22:25 AM
Worst Shedinja Ever.

Shedinja @ Flame Orb
Trait: Wonder Guard
EVs: 255 HP / 255 Def
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Sandstorm
- Harden
- Rest
- Double-Edge
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on December 01, 2010, 01:32:26 PM
XD

Also, sorry. I was hypnotized by something during that last post... I actually like Spinda.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on December 01, 2010, 06:37:11 PM
I doubt you were really hypnotized, that link you posted wasn't "real hypnosis"...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on December 01, 2010, 06:44:54 PM
Wait, I posted a link?  :o


Ha, jk. Anyways... What's new in the world of Pokemon?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on December 01, 2010, 06:51:44 PM
Quote from: Shadoninja on December 01, 2010, 09:22:25 AMWorst Shedinja Ever.

Shedinja @ Flame Orb
Trait: Wonder Guard
EVs: 255 HP / 255 Def
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Sandstorm
- Harden
- Rest
- Double-Edge

Haha yeah, it sure sucks. :P

Quote from: Jub3r7 on December 01, 2010, 06:44:54 PMWait, I posted a link?  :o


Ha, jk. Anyways... What's new in the world of Pokemon?

Nothing much really. New BW cards have been shown but thats about it.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on December 05, 2010, 09:31:41 AM
My team in Pokemon Silver (my replaced battery RULES :)):

Location: Route 32 (below Violet City)
I have beaten the gym and Sprout Tower.

Pokemon:
Wooper Lv9: Water Gun, Tail Whip
Togepi Lv14: Growl, Charm, Metronome
"Boo" Gastly Lv14: Hypnosis, Lick, Spite, Mean Look
Mareep Lv14: Tackle, Growl, ThunderShock
Chikorita Lv15: Tackle, PoisonPowder, Razor Leaf, Reflect

I am thinking about a Fire-type for my last one, and I am also considering dropping Chikorita for Bellsprout. I know that Victreebel is beast in the newer games, but is it that good in Silver? Advice/ratings, please. :)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on December 05, 2010, 01:06:28 PM
So horrible.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on December 12, 2010, 07:33:48 AM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on December 05, 2010, 09:31:41 AMMy team in Pokemon Silver (my replaced battery RULES :)):

Location: Route 32 (below Violet City)
I have beaten the gym and Sprout Tower.

Pokemon:
Wooper Lv9: Water Gun, Tail Whip
Togepi Lv14: Growl, Charm, Metronome
"Boo" Gastly Lv14: Hypnosis, Lick, Spite, Mean Look
Mareep Lv14: Tackle, Growl, ThunderShock
Chikorita Lv15: Tackle, PoisonPowder, Razor Leaf, Reflect

I am thinking about a Fire-type for my last one, and I am also considering dropping Chikorita for Bellsprout. I know that Victreebel is beast in the newer games, but is it that good in Silver? Advice/ratings, please. :)

Uber late, but you have to consider that you won't be able to evole your Weepinbell before the E4 since the only Leaf stone you can have is given to you by Bill's grandfather. It's still good, but the fact that you can't evolve it in Johto's meh. Togepi's not that good, I think you should drop it. Gastly and Mareep ftw. I've never used Chikorita in GSC so I don't know if it's good or not but I guess it's okay. Also, I'd use Poliwhirl over Wooper/Quagsire but that's just me personal preference.


Also, I'm curious: Are any of you guys playing the Pokemon Trading Card game (not the vidya game version)?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on December 12, 2010, 03:08:58 PM
I can't find anyone to play with me, it would be fun though. :(

And I haven't even played my Silver since I last posted that; still training Chikorita. Playing Emerald lately.

Also, Gastly sucks in pre-DP games because both Ghost and Poison types were physical.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on December 12, 2010, 03:24:06 PM
you could play it online with apprentice and the pokemon patch.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on December 12, 2010, 06:17:48 PM
Quote from: Jub3r7 on December 05, 2010, 01:06:28 PMSo horrible.
I was only joking, it actually looks very hopeful.

QuoteAlso, I'm curious: Are any of you guys playing the Pokemon Trading Card game (not the vidya game version)?
Yes. In fact, me and my brother are putting together a deck with different legends that we got broke on buying off of ebay.
:/

When I got the Suicune/Raikou (part of it) in a booster pack, we bought the other half on ebay.
Then we got part of Dialga/Palkia legend in a booster pack... and did the same thing.


I get paid 50$ for working 2 days... and a theme deck costs about 12.50 where I got them...
I lost a whole weeks pay buying the four theme decks based on Espeon, Umbreon, Mamoswine, and Nidoking...

The next theme decks coming out are based on Lucario and Tangrowth. [/TCG rant]



I really need to finish reading the Pokemon manga. It's really awesome and slightly more violent.

Instead of standing and watching, the trainers have to actually fight thieves, too.
Koga was kind of evil, so one of the main characters killed his arbok; it looked like a sliced worm.

I was only on the yellow arc, so I had a LONG ways to go. :(

Plus, I've been reading Japanese translations so all the names are mixed up whenever I see them referred to in english...
Seeing as Green is now Blue and Blue is now Green. But Red is still Red and Yellow is still Yellow. [/Manga rant]

REST IN PEACE MY DEAD POKEMON. I WILL TRAIN THE LIVING POKEMON IN HONOR OF YOU. [/VG Rant]

I've never played the Trading Card Video game, although I've heard it was good... [/TCGVG Rant][/sub][/sub][/sub]

Is it bad to be obsessed?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on December 12, 2010, 06:33:24 PM
You bought them off of ebay? How much did it cost you? Probably a lot more than they're worth.
I bought 5 booster packs today... got Mew prime which is worth a lot of money plus the top part of Entei/Raikou legend :D
Oh and theme decks are not that good... or so I heard.
Also, you shouldn't use legend in any deck. Their attacks usually are costly plus if they get KOed your opponent takes 2 prize cards instead of one which sucks.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on December 13, 2010, 10:59:15 AM
Quote from: Jub3r7 on December 12, 2010, 06:17:48 PMI really need to finish reading the Pokemon manga. It's really awesome and slightly more violent.

Instead of standing and watching, the trainers have to actually fight thieves, too.
Koga was kind of evil, so one of the main characters killed his arbok; it looked like a sliced worm.

Well, actually, it wasn't killed, as Nintendo has stated that Pokémon never die in battles. They might, in some cases, severely maim each other, but never kill. Apparently, the wounds regrow quite fast, but the Pokémon at the receiving end of the attack will be unable to fight for a looooong time if not treated correctly (see Deoxys in Destiny Deoxys, who took a Hyper Beam from Rayquaza at point-blank range, but rose from the water ready to fight after four years). [/nerd]
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on December 26, 2010, 08:32:01 AM
So Jub is Pokepark Wii any fun? I'll probably get it anyway, but still.

Also, there's a list of passwords on Serebii. If you want them.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on December 26, 2010, 03:42:26 PM
Quote from: Cobraroll on December 13, 2010, 10:59:15 AMWell, actually, it wasn't killed, as Nintendo has stated that Pokémon never die in battles. They might, in some cases, severely maim each other, but never kill. Apparently, the wounds regrow quite fast, but the Pokémon at the receiving end of the attack will be unable to fight for a looooong time if not treated correctly (see Deoxys in Destiny Deoxys, who took a Hyper Beam from Rayquaza at point-blank range, but rose from the water ready to fight after four years). [/nerd]


I just found a screenshot of the particular section that I mentioned...


(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi923.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad71%2FJub3r7%2Ftumblr_krq804rl2F1qzxyzqo1_500.png&hash=422c112020ee54926c8739c20476e1a56e1343df)



Hm.... maybe this arbok might recover...

Quote from: SlowPokemon on December 26, 2010, 08:32:01 AMSo Jub is Pokepark Wii any fun? I'll probably get it anyway, but still.

Also, there's a list of passwords on Serebii. If you want them.
Brother keeps playing borderlands on XBox, so I haven't gotten the chance to play it yet....
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on December 26, 2010, 07:43:51 PM
Actually iirc it did recover. I read the manga a while ago.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on January 05, 2011, 08:11:58 PM
It's too bad that we won't see any 3D Pokemon games, then...[url] (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Nintendo_labels_3DS_%27dangerous%27)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on January 05, 2011, 08:42:32 PM
http://kotaku.com/5725770/doctors-say-the-3ds-is-safe-potentially-beneficial-to-children

Dundun.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on January 05, 2011, 09:05:57 PM
OH NOEZ, CONFLICTING OPINIONS.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on January 06, 2011, 09:04:05 AM
My opinion wins 'cause it's cooler.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on January 06, 2011, 09:50:04 AM
I think I'd rather trust the opinions of a professional than a company that makes games in this case.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on January 06, 2011, 02:49:18 PM
Hm, I might actually get it then, like I was planning to...
I am saving up for so many things right now.

1. 3DS (300$)
2. Laptop (300-1200$)
3. 2 Semesters of an online class so I can take an extra elective (approximately 300$ per semester!)
4. Latin field trip 2012 to Rome, Italy. (Around 2000$...)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on January 11, 2011, 07:47:10 PM
This? (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/U.S._Black_and_White_promotional_tour_announced)

Anybody else going?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on January 11, 2011, 07:52:09 PM
URRGH WHY IS EVERYTHING TIMED SO HORRIBLY

SIX REASONS WHY MY LIFE SUCKS
1.) I WANT THAT CELEBI
2.) I would DIE to go see a Pokemon movie in a theater
3.) My birthday is March 14
4.) I live about a half hour from Atlanta, Georgia
5.) The touring dates for said location are March 12-13
6.) I HAVE A FREAKING HUGE PIANO RECITAL THAT WEEKEND D:<

Lucky me, I already got to miss out on a TSA trip to Athens because of that recital. >=(
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperFireKirby on January 12, 2011, 03:43:36 PM
Downloaded PO today. Playing as FranceCharleson for any who may have severely owned me.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on January 12, 2011, 03:47:52 PM
SO THAT WAS YOU!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperFireKirby on January 12, 2011, 03:51:10 PM
Indeed. I really should start playing G/S/C or R/S/E so I can actually figure out what some of these pokemon I'm blindly attacking actually are. So that thing is a dark pokemon? totally looks like one ::). I think I'll use a psychic attack on it. I am just clueless. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on January 12, 2011, 06:31:15 PM
PO is awesome in that when you hover your mouse over the enemy their type(s) are displayed.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperFireKirby on January 12, 2011, 06:33:10 PM
I figured that out after getting crushed the first two times :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on January 25, 2011, 12:47:07 PM
Nouveau Sondage! Allez!

(Sorry, I have a french quiz today that I need to study for)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on January 25, 2011, 02:11:17 PM
^Easy amirite? ;)

Oh and you should add Both Black and White to your poll as some people (like me) are going to buy both versions at the same time. Since it wasn't there I voted for black 'cause black > white.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on January 25, 2011, 02:13:12 PM
White. I thought I'd be different this gen by picking the opposite of what I would have picked.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on January 25, 2011, 03:14:22 PM
Ah, some reverse reverse psychology going on, eh?

Anyway, I will be getting black. Just because I decided that before I knew what any of the version exclusives were, and my brother same with white. But I actually like most if not all of the version exclusives in black better than those in white.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on January 25, 2011, 03:29:34 PM
I think a long, long time ago I posted a large chart...
of the Pokemon games and which one my brothers/me got and which ones I claimed...


This is relevant, because this time it's my turn to get the third version.
Apparently, I'm the only one who's gonna play gray first...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Winter on January 25, 2011, 03:46:13 PM
And me
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on January 25, 2011, 11:15:20 PM
And I'll have it done by then...

My current problem now... Im debating whether I should sell my DSi XL in preparation for the 3DS and just get that.

I think I can make back a decent profit and all.

My question is... should I sell it?? My problem is that I only have one DS up here, so I'll be without Pokemon BW until I get the 3DS

Oh the dilemma
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on January 26, 2011, 01:50:04 PM
Why don't you wait until like the week before 3DS comes out to sell your DSi XL?

I know I'm going to trade in my DSi soon to Gamestop or something; it's pretty useless because A) The L and R buttons don't work, even AFTER sending it in for fixing (only cost like five or ten bucks, but still) B) The stylus recently went missing C) I have a perfectly good DS Lite.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on January 26, 2011, 07:39:09 PM
That works... I completely forgot!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on January 31, 2011, 02:31:47 PM
Just took this quiz (http://www.eonlightvalley.com/pquiz.php) and got...

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eonlightvalley.com%2Fimages%2Frandom%2Fpquiz%2Fpqaipom.jpg&hash=50d6c4c90b910ec32d22fa6b3003798195ec0124) (http://"http://www.eonlightvalley.com/pquiz.php")


...

...

...?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on January 31, 2011, 02:42:05 PM
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eonlightvalley.com%2Fimages%2Frandom%2Fpquiz%2Fpqbutterfree.jpg&hash=b76ca0bc9cdbf237a08afc27615c8251b3133c78) (http://"http://www.eonlightvalley.com/pquiz.php")
hmm
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on January 31, 2011, 02:56:58 PM
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eonlightvalley.com%2Fimages%2Frandom%2Fpquiz%2Fpqhoundoom.jpg&hash=04ee651d14a711e16e61796d21196f01acd6af8a) (http://"http://www.eonlightvalley.com/pquiz.php")

Lolz.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on January 31, 2011, 03:01:08 PM
I knew flamethrowers had a significance!!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on January 31, 2011, 03:08:51 PM
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eonlightvalley.com%2Fimages%2Frandom%2Fpquiz%2Fpqbayleef.jpg&hash=291d2711439fca51125df96cf9291299ccc784f5) (http://"http://www.eonlightvalley.com/pquiz.php")
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on January 31, 2011, 03:17:40 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on January 31, 2011, 02:56:58 PM(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eonlightvalley.com%2Fimages%2Frandom%2Fpquiz%2Fpqhoundoom.jpg&hash=04ee651d14a711e16e61796d21196f01acd6af8a) (http://"http://www.eonlightvalley.com/pquiz.php")

Lolz.

Indeed, Ms. Flamethrower...;D... Although I would say someone here has a bigger ego than you.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on January 31, 2011, 03:50:43 PM
Quote from: Shadoninja on January 31, 2011, 03:01:08 PMI knew flamethrowers had a significance!!

Made my day. :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Winter on January 31, 2011, 05:27:46 PM

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eonlightvalley.com%2Fimages%2Frandom%2Fpquiz%2Fpqlatias.jpg&hash=e7c293fd10cc68484c74e643f1a405e4205172a4)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on January 31, 2011, 05:37:51 PM
Here (http://www.dragonflycave.com/newpay.aspx) is another one. ;D

It's pretty similar. Here's what I got now:

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dragonflycave.com%2Fwpay%2Ftogetic.gif&hash=44228babf76d3beaa18f7a8a58397d4522b0e04f) (http://www.dragonflycave.com/newpay.aspx)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Dude on January 31, 2011, 06:43:32 PM
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Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on January 31, 2011, 06:47:53 PM
For the second test I got Mew, although I disagree with the last part...

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Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on January 31, 2011, 07:39:39 PM
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Trudat.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on February 01, 2011, 03:50:07 AM
Yeah, Roz, cheer up a little... ;)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on February 01, 2011, 07:22:57 AM
Not my fault if life is boring.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on February 01, 2011, 01:08:25 PM
I originally had Butterfree, and I saw "you are very optimistic"  and I said the hell with that -- Im a realist

And now---

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Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Dude on February 01, 2011, 02:32:40 PM
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So true.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperFireKirby on February 01, 2011, 02:51:45 PM
Booooo, I can't get the darn webpage to open by clicking on any of these pictures.

EDIT: Finally one worked. And it seems to be spot-on, unfortunately.
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Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on February 04, 2011, 02:21:07 PM
Need links to watch the 2 pokemon specials that aired yesterday in Japan.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on February 05, 2011, 12:07:27 PM
Most of you probably noticed this, but I think in Gen V it's like they're trying to recreate the first gen... xD

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Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: garlicbananas on February 05, 2011, 12:16:37 PM
yeah I have noticed that, I'm just glad they're finally giving bug and ghost some respect
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on February 05, 2011, 01:15:28 PM
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They have really used up all their imagination by now.

And yes, I agree with you. You covered a good chunk of the "normal" Pokémon, but have a look at the legendaries as well:

Genesect/Genosect is just like Mewtwo. An ancient, powerful Pokémon who got an upgrade.

Tornadus, Thundurus and Landorus are powerful genies who roam around and play some significance to something. Just like Articuno, Zapdos and Moltres.

Victini is Mew. Just like Celebi, Jirachi, Manaphy and Shaymin were.

The rest of the legendaries, however, follow the formula of the fourth generation, with two big dragons (and a trio master), two legendary trios (the aforementioned genies plus the Musketeers), and another event-only Pokémon (Meloetta). Keldeo is a nice new touch, though.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Winter on February 05, 2011, 01:24:34 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzeJ5Q9eIkM&feature=related

sadly so say, Bisharps Cry is not at the pitch of a C
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on February 05, 2011, 02:26:06 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on February 05, 2011, 12:07:27 PMMost of you probably noticed this, but I think in Gen V it's like they're trying to recreate the first gen... xD

...Just saying...

They already said that when they mentioned that the Unova region was far away.
Also, didya guys know that the new 'mons were designed by an American?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on February 05, 2011, 02:52:29 PM
*sigh* And that gave us... Vanilluxe?

Well, it's original, at least. I think an ice cream (vanilla flavour, even) is better than just copying existing designs and change their colour (Ariados=Galvantula) or just copy an existing design, change nothing, and pretend it's new (see Glameow up there).
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on February 05, 2011, 03:05:05 PM
Do you know why they did that? Because they wanted the game to have a more American feel to it since the Unova region is based on NYC. Seriously, stop complaining, those 'mons are not that bad. Denchura would've been a fire type spider and you would've complained that OGAWD THEY COPIED ARIADOS!!11!1oneone Of course it reminds you of Ariados, they both are based on spiders. It's as stupid as saying that Roopushin is a pale copy of Machamp or that Nageki/Dageki are pale copies of Hitmonlee/Hitmonchan.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on February 05, 2011, 03:33:19 PM
Oops, didn't mean to turn this into a debate.

All I say is that I'm a little disappointed with the creativity here. Not only are some (but mind you, not all!) of the new Pokémon strikingly similiar to the old ones in build, but also in pose when it comes to artwork. Look at Buffalon/Tauros' legs, for example.

To your credit, I have to back down on the spiders. Upon researching, I realise that Ariados and Denchura/Galvantula are based on different species of spiders (jump spiders and tarantulas, respectively), and that a Denchura in motion would be drastically different from a walking Ariados. Still, I find it a shame that they put them in identical poses for the official artwork. The fact that they use two of the same colours doesn't help too much either. Credit to the designers for basing Bachuru on an obscure species of spiders, though.

Roopushin/Conkeldurr (honestly, who doesn't love the English name they gave it?) is cool, I think. Stat-wise, similiar to Machamp, but then again, so is Crawdaunt if you want to look at it that way, so it's not much of an issue. However, I think that basing a Pokémon on a construction worker is somewhat... obscure, but if they want to remain original, they need to come up with new design bases. Hence we get construction workers and ice creams. As I said, I prefer that to copying old designs. After all, most of the "obvious" design bases were taken already in the first and second generations, and most of them have been reused once or twice since then (five times for electric rodents).
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Winter on February 05, 2011, 03:42:09 PM
We need more Psychic types
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on February 05, 2011, 03:43:54 PM
we need more quality dark types.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on February 05, 2011, 04:05:03 PM
Trudat.

Also, because Lost World is going to be released Gengar Prime's now costs 42$ instead of ~15$. D:
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on February 05, 2011, 06:36:55 PM
Thank God Unfezant's cry isn't as annoying as Staraptor's... >__>
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on February 06, 2011, 08:33:20 AM
Quote from: Roz~ on February 05, 2011, 02:26:06 PMAlso, didya guys know that the new 'mons were designed by an American?
I thought only a few of them were designed by an American. :/

I do remember that the ice cream was designed by him, though.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Winter on February 06, 2011, 10:24:25 AM
Lmao
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on February 06, 2011, 05:33:55 PM
Yay for animated GIFs! Here are the starters' final forms, and others that I found cool.

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Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on February 06, 2011, 05:46:23 PM
I have to admit: those are pretty awesome.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on February 06, 2011, 07:06:36 PM
I've seen those sprites a while ago and these make the new games worth buying.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DonValentino on February 07, 2011, 12:02:40 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on February 06, 2011, 05:33:55 PMYay for animated GIFs! Here are the starters' final forms, and others that I found cool.

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COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on February 07, 2011, 12:11:45 PM
But the chandelier is a fire type. It seems pretty warm to me.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on February 07, 2011, 02:53:12 PM
Chandelure = a Fire-type that I am excited about training. Holy crap, this hasn't happened since... well... I like Vulpix? And, um, Camerupt? Maybe? But, anyway, Ghost-types are awesome, and a Fire-Ghost is perfect to get me to have a Fire-type on my team.

Plus its English name DOESN'T suck; therefore, Cofagrigus = Out Of The Spotlight.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: garlicbananas on February 07, 2011, 03:00:00 PM
LMAO I Love Scraggy and Scrafty!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on February 07, 2011, 03:58:38 PM
"For those of you with Diamond, Pearl, Platinum, HeartGold or SoulSilver, the Legendary Trio of Johto WiFi event has just begun. This event, originally announced for Europe is available for download with European games as well as American and Australian games allowing for everyone to have it. For this week, the event allows the download of Raikou. This will last until February 13th 2011 so get it while you can. These beasts, when transferred to Pokémon Black & White, allow you to get Zoroark."
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on February 07, 2011, 03:59:51 PM
Well, I got them at Gamestop, which is good because MY FREAKING WI-FI WON'T WORK WITH WPA >=P

WHY WON'T NINTENDO GET OVER WEP?!?!?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on February 07, 2011, 04:01:52 PM
this works for me because I didn't get them at gamestop.because i'm lazy
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on February 07, 2011, 04:50:16 PM
Haha saem. Imma rng them then. Wee.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on February 07, 2011, 05:21:43 PM
Except they come with predetermined natures and stats.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on February 07, 2011, 05:29:49 PM
They come with a determined nature but random IVs. Them cats having a set nature is going to make things a lot more easier actually.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on February 07, 2011, 06:50:05 PM
That would be hilarious if B/W didn't recognize your transferred Pokemon as the ones required to get Zoroark.

Oh wait, you would just rng him too, wouldn't you. >_>
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on February 07, 2011, 07:22:21 PM
If that hilarious thing happened then I couldn't RNG it because I couldn't meet it. I do have Japanese cats so I should be fine anyways.

Edit: Just downloaded Raikou. I shall now RNG.

Also, Jub3r = hejealous.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on February 09, 2011, 06:53:21 PM
Pokemon tournament = 1$ and you can win a Nintendo 3DS. Awsm.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on February 09, 2011, 07:00:17 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on February 07, 2011, 07:22:21 PMEdit: Just downloaded Raikou. I shall now RNG.

Also, Jub3r = hejealous.
RNG'ing when breeding or something else just takes the challenge out of getting a shiny Pokemon. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on February 09, 2011, 07:06:50 PM
I don't really think it's a challenge to breed for a shiny 'mon when you're not RNG'ing, you just need luck. Even with the Masuda method the odds are only about 1/2000 something. So yeah. Plus I don't care about shininess, I just want perfect IVs. Shininess is cool when 'mons look great when shiny (Shellder, Skorupi, Absol) otherwise I don't care.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on February 09, 2011, 07:40:00 PM
yeah because there's so much challenge in breeding a bajillion pokemen just to get something that's different.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on February 09, 2011, 07:45:28 PM
It's kinda like catching a buttload of Pokemon to have one with Pokerus.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on February 10, 2011, 03:17:48 AM
Ahahaha, a non-Pokemon player would read this discussion and be "WTF"
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on February 10, 2011, 05:11:33 AM
Maybe.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: garlicbananas on February 10, 2011, 01:21:52 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on February 10, 2011, 03:17:48 AMAhahaha, a non-Pokemon player would read this discussion and be "WTF"
I wish I could like comments on here.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Winter on February 10, 2011, 01:42:35 PM
Eww facebook (dislike)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: garlicbananas on February 13, 2011, 11:37:25 AM
Well I've been talking about pokemon at school and they give us that wide eyed WTF look.  So its one of those "so true" instances
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on February 13, 2011, 02:47:57 PM
BAHAHA (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/BW_Mall_Tour_plagued_with_hacked_distribution)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on February 13, 2011, 03:02:42 PM
wondertomb is lawl.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on February 13, 2011, 06:22:06 PM
Trudat. Anyways Fire Fang can still hit it.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on February 15, 2011, 02:52:28 AM
shiny eventei get!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on February 15, 2011, 06:00:23 AM
I downloaded it too. They look so awsm in shiny form. <3
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on February 15, 2011, 07:44:22 AM
Quote from: Roz~ on February 13, 2011, 06:22:06 PMTrudat. Anyways Fire Fang can still hit it.
How does that work?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on February 15, 2011, 08:25:13 AM
Hmm. It's actually a glitch. I don't know why it's there but at least we have a way to hit Wondertomb and Wondereye. You can see some vids about that on Youtube.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on February 15, 2011, 03:32:03 PM
Battle between Slow and Daniel started!

Rule: Unrated

Daniel sent out Aggron!
Slow sent out Ambipom!

Start of turn 1
Ambipom used Agility!
Ambipom's Speed sharply rose!

The foe's Aggron used Head Smash!
Ambipom lost 291 HP! (100% of its health)
The foe's Aggron is hit with recoil!
Ambipom fainted!

Slow sent out Octillery!
Daniel: jajjaa

Start of turn 2
The foe's Aggron absorbed light!

Octillery used Surf!
It's super effective!
The foe's Aggron lost 51% of its health!
The foe's Aggron fainted!
Octillery is hurt by its Life Orb!

Daniel sent out Manectric!

Start of turn 3
Slow called Octillery back!
Slow sent out Carnivine!

The foe's Manectric used Thunder!
It's not very effective...
Carnivine lost 99 HP! (34% of its health)

Start of turn 4
Daniel called Manectric back!
Daniel sent out Salamence!

The foe's Salamence intimidates Carnivine!
Carnivine's Attack fell!
Carnivine used Stun Spore!
The foe's Salamence is paralyzed! It may be unable to move!

Start of turn 5
Slow called Carnivine back!
Slow sent out Octillery!

The foe's Salamence is paralyzed! It can't move!

Start of turn 6
Octillery used Ice Beam!
It's super effective!
The foe's Salamence lost 100% of its health!
The foe's Salamence fainted!
Octillery is hurt by its Life Orb!

Daniel sent out Metagross!

Start of turn 7
The foe's Metagross used Earthquake!
Octillery lost 130 HP! (44% of its health)

Octillery used Fire Blast!
It's super effective!
The foe's Metagross lost 80% of its health!
The foe's Metagross ate its Sitrus Berry!
The foe's Metagross restored some HP!
Octillery is hurt by its Life Orb!

Start of turn 8
The foe's Metagross used Meteor Mash!
It's not very effective...
Octillery lost 74 HP! (25% of its health)
Octillery fainted!

Slow sent out Dusknoir!

Dusknoir is exerting its Pressure!

Start of turn 9
The foe's Metagross used Meteor Mash!
Dusknoir lost 121 HP! (52% of its health)

Dusknoir used Will-O-Wisp!
The foe's Metagross was burned!

The foe's Metagross is hurt by its burn!
Dusknoir restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 10
Dusknoir used Shadow Sneak!
The foe's Metagross lost 11% of its health!

The foe's Metagross used Earthquake!
Dusknoir lost 39 HP! (16% of its health)

The foe's Metagross is hurt by its burn!
Dusknoir restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 11
Dusknoir used Shadow Sneak!
The foe's Metagross lost 8% of its health!
The foe's Metagross fainted!

Dusknoir restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Daniel sent out Dusknoir!

The foe's Dusknoir is exerting its Pressure!

Start of turn 12
The foe's Dusknoir used Shadow Sneak!
It's super effective!
Dusknoir lost 74 HP! (32% of its health)

Dusknoir used Pain Split!
The battlers shared their pain!

Dusknoir restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 13
Dusknoir used Shadow Sneak!
It's super effective!
The foe's Dusknoir lost 28% of its health!
The foe's Dusknoir ate its Sitrus Berry!
The foe's Dusknoir restored some HP!

The foe's Dusknoir used Shadow Ball!
It's super effective!
Dusknoir lost 114 HP! (49% of its health)

Dusknoir restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 14
The foe's Dusknoir used Shadow Ball!
It's super effective!
Dusknoir lost 59 HP! (25% of its health)
Dusknoir fainted!

Slow sent out Honchkrow!

Start of turn 15
Daniel called Dusknoir back!
Daniel sent out Manectric!

Honchkrow used Sucker Punch!
But it failed!

Start of turn 16
Slow called Honchkrow back!
Slow sent out Carnivine!

The foe's Manectric used Thunder!
It's not very effective...
Carnivine lost 102 HP! (35% of its health)

Start of turn 17
The foe's Manectric used Ice Fang!
It's super effective!
Carnivine lost 88 HP! (30% of its health)
Carnivine fainted!

Slow sent out Manectric!

Start of turn 18
Daniel called Manectric back!
Daniel sent out Flygon!

Manectric used Switcheroo!
Manectric switched items with the foe's Flygon!
Manectric obtained one Sitrus Berry!
The foe's Flygon obtained one Choice Scarf!

Start of turn 19
The foe's Flygon used Earth Power!
It's super effective!
Manectric lost 281 HP! (100% of its health)
Manectric fainted!

Slow sent out Honchkrow!

Start of turn 20
Daniel called Flygon back!
Daniel sent out Manectric!

Honchkrow used Sucker Punch!
But it failed!

Start of turn 21
The foe's Manectric used Thunder!
The attack of the foe's Manectric missed!

Honchkrow used Superpower!
A critical hit!
The foe's Manectric lost 100% of its health!
The foe's Manectric's Static activates!
Honchkrow is paralyzed! It may be unable to move!
Honchkrow's Attack fell!
Honchkrow's Defense fell!
The foe's Manectric fainted!
Honchkrow is hurt by its Life Orb!

Daniel sent out Dusknoir!

The foe's Dusknoir is exerting its Pressure!

Start of turn 22
Honchkrow used Sucker Punch!
It's super effective!
The foe's Dusknoir lost 53% of its health!
The foe's Dusknoir fainted!
Honchkrow is hurt by its Life Orb!

Daniel sent out Flygon!

Start of turn 23
Honchkrow used Sucker Punch!
A critical hit!
The foe's Flygon lost 100% of its health!
The foe's Flygon fainted!
Honchkrow is hurt by its Life Orb!

Slow won the battle!
Slow: And I didn't even get to break out my secret weapon!
Slow: GWAHAHA

I have NO FREAKING IDEA HOW I WON THAT
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on February 15, 2011, 04:04:35 PM
You lead with Ambipom and you don't even use Fake Out? Wait wat?
Also, you're supposed to set up when you predict a switch.
Plus you used Sucker Punch on switches that were obvious.
Oh well. At least you won. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on February 15, 2011, 04:06:20 PM
See, I didn't know any of the stuff you just told me. I am really a novice when it comes to competitive battling. Dx
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on February 15, 2011, 04:09:02 PM
Really? Fake out is a must on Ambipom, so you definitely want to use that, Plus it gets stab, so yea.
Mind games are important when you battle. You have to think about what your opponent is going to do next (i.e switch, what move, etc.) so you can counter its moves. Ya must practice.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on February 15, 2011, 05:48:36 PM
fake out+ last resort ambipom pisses me off.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on February 15, 2011, 06:00:27 PM
Double Slap is an annoying move too.

Also I'm bored, I guess I could breed some 'mons. Shiny Eeveelutions anyone?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on February 15, 2011, 06:03:31 PM
Leafeon, max Atk and Spd, Adamant Nature, Quick-tempered. 8)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on February 15, 2011, 06:08:17 PM
I lol'd @ max Atk and Spd. You should know, my good sir, that all my 'mons are Hex-Flawless unless they need a specific Hidden Power type.
Leafeon's my least favorite so I'll breed one after I'm done breeding the other 6 Eeveelutions. Wee.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on February 15, 2011, 06:10:28 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on February 15, 2011, 06:08:17 PMI lol'd @ max Atk and Spd. You should know, my good sir, that all my 'mons are Hex-Flawless unless they need a specific Hidden Power type.

What part of "complete novice" don't you understand?!?!

Quote from: Roz~ on February 15, 2011, 06:08:17 PMLeafeon's my least favorite so I'll breed one after I'm done breeding the other 6 Eeveelutions. Wee.

That, my good lady, is fine since I don't have WEP Wi-Fi anyway.

...Does anyone know if BW will use WPA?!?! PLEASE?!?!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on February 15, 2011, 06:26:16 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on February 15, 2011, 06:10:28 PMWhat part of "complete novice" don't you understand?!?!

That, my good lady, is fine since I don't have WEP Wi-Fi anyway.

...Does anyone know if BW will use WPA?!?! PLEASE?!?!

according to serebii:

"As stated above, Pokémon Black & White are DSi Enhanced. As such, they will only work on DSis of the same region as the game. However, despite this, there are a variety of new features exclusive to the DSi. First is the Xtransceiver which does allow for voice and video chat between up to 4 friends locally and 1 friend over the Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection. In addition to this, Pokémon Black & White are capable of connecting to the Internet via the WPA encryption as opposed to previous games only being able to connect to WiFi through no encryption, or WEP.
The games can be played on any model of DS"
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on February 15, 2011, 06:35:55 PM
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Get ready to...umm...trade...

ALSO DREAM WORLD CAPABILITIES FTW
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on February 15, 2011, 06:37:29 PM
Haha awsm, I'll be able to breed you something. :P
And your comment about max Atk and Spd was not stupid, it's just that when I breed I go for flawless 'mons. Leafeon does need max Spd and also max Atk depending on what set you run.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on February 15, 2011, 06:37:51 PM
When I read the last conversation earlier I thought it was from the Pokemon Poll topic. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Winter on February 15, 2011, 08:54:07 PM
Can the 3rd do video chat too?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on February 15, 2011, 09:07:00 PM
Quote from: winterkid09 on February 15, 2011, 08:54:07 PMCan the 3rd do video chat too?
"The games also introduce a variety of new multiplayer aspects including the Xtransceiver, a DSi & 3DS exclusive feature, that allows for video chat with you and your friends."
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on February 27, 2011, 10:21:48 AM
Happy fifteenth birthday (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_Red_and_Green_Versions), Pokémon!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: fingerz on February 28, 2011, 06:37:43 PM
Bah! Mario's 25 already. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on February 28, 2011, 06:45:09 PM
Cool.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: fingerz on February 28, 2011, 06:55:20 PM
Yeah. Kinda confusing though. He's actually meant to be middle-aged... :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: garlicbananas on March 01, 2011, 01:35:39 PM
Sonic's already way passed the average hedgehog life expectancy.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on March 01, 2011, 05:30:17 PM
If anyone has a twitter account and is following @NintendoAmerica, they can win some Pokémon stuff...

GOGOGOGO! (This includes a signed copy from Junichi Masuda!)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on March 01, 2011, 05:36:33 PM
A signed copy of Junichi Masuda? Sweet!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on March 01, 2011, 05:37:37 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on March 01, 2011, 08:28:12 PM
You guys has a twitter???

Follow me @nkonny
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: fingerz on March 01, 2011, 09:09:06 PM
MUST GET!!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on March 11, 2011, 10:00:55 AM
A short opinion by me about the general state of Pokémon at the dawn of the fifth generation. I think this belongs in this thread, as it's in no way "news":

Where to start? Well, guess I can skip straight to the point: I feel more and more like Game Freak is trying ot completely "restart" Pokémon with Black & White, and distancing the franchise from the first four generations. It seems like the older generations take a back seat, the old Pokémon being more like bonus materiel in the new games, and new Pokémon taking over the established roles of old ones.
For a start, take one of the first things revealed about the Unova region: It is located far away from the other regions, reflecting America more than Japan. The short time span between the Japanese and international releases, the web connections, etc, all means that these games are meant to be more "international" than the others, catering to a global audience and focusing less on Japanese culture and legends. It's also a convenient way to distance itself from the elements and characters from the first generations:

Look at the Animé. For a start, Ash got a new look, for no reason whatsoever. Not only a change in clothing, but his face changed too, and the vivid colours are toned down. Predictably enough, after Sinnoh, he decided to ditch his old Pokémon, lobotomize Pikachu and head for a new region. However, this time he's ditching Oak as well, sending his Pokémon to professor Juniper instead. Only the sixth generation will tell if this is staying, but I'm worried already. How long before it's never mentioned again that Ash is from Pallet, or his mother/Oak moving to Unova? The latter is unlikely, but still...

Then, the case of new Pokémon in old roles. For a moment, let's forget the ever-present Pidgey, Rattata and Pikachu clones; they have become a tradition at this point. Instead take this: the staple Pokémon of choice in Pokémon centres have always been Chansey and Blissey. I mean, how can you think "Nurse Joy" without an image of a Chansey by her side (or a lovestruck Brock, may he return ASAP)? Well, Game Freak wants to teach you how: Meet Audino.
What if I say "All-male Fighting Pokémon, constantly sparring and training martial arts"? Some will picture the classic Hitmonchan and Hitmonlee, while Black and White give us Throh and Sawk.
"Annoying bat jumping at you for every other step you take in a cave"? Zubat, Golbat, ooooor... yeah, Woobat and Swoobat.
"Annoying jellyfish jumping at you for every other step you take in the sea"? Tentacool has always been a staple here... until Frillish came along
"Huge, bulky Pokémon valued at construction sites due to their immense strength. Have to be traded to evolve". Machop or Conkeldurr, the choice is yours (at the moment). Here are a few more:

"Pokémon created by human carelessness, living and thriving in the pollution of large cities"
"Tapir-based Psychic Pokémon feeding off dreams"
"Tadpole-like Pokémon living in ponds"
"Bull Pokémon roaming the great plains"
"Weak fish Pokémon found everywhere you can surf or fish"
Smogon sums it up greatly here: http://www.smogon.com/smog/issue14/firstvsfifth
Also, it's important to note that the generation V Pokédex is the only one not to have any Pokémon from other generation related to it by evolution.

Last, I'd like to point out that the Pokémon World Championship only allows Unova Pokémon to be used this year. That's right, kids, forget the old and bring in the new.
With all the backwards compability of the games nowadays, it's likely that Game Freak will use the Generation V Pokémon primarily in the future, and keep the older ones as "history" for new players. As in, they are compatible with the new games, and some can be found directly in them as well, but they will have as little to do with the storylines as possible.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on March 11, 2011, 11:09:41 AM
"Offensively, the only Pokemon that resisted Psychic attacks were . . . other Psychic Pokemon, which further perverted the telepathic circle jerk that was the RBY metagame." win.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on March 11, 2011, 12:59:46 PM
I'm trying to vote in the poll. It's better than previous generations, but I expected it to be this great...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on March 11, 2011, 01:33:11 PM
Quote from: Cobraroll on March 11, 2011, 10:00:55 AMA short opinion by me about the general state of Pokémon at the dawn of the fifth generation. I think this belongs in this thread, as it's in no way "news":

Where to start? Well, guess I can skip straight to the point: I feel more and more like Game Freak is trying ot completely "restart" Pokémon with Black & White, and distancing the franchise from the first four generations. It seems like the older generations take a back seat, the old Pokémon being more like bonus materiel in the new games, and new Pokémon taking over the established roles of old ones.
For a start, take one of the first things revealed about the Unova region: It is located far away from the other regions, reflecting America more than Japan. The short time span between the Japanese and international releases, the web connections, etc, all means that these games are meant to be more "international" than the others, catering to a global audience and focusing less on Japanese culture and legends. It's also a convenient way to distance itself from the elements and characters from the first generations:

Look at the Animé. For a start, Ash got a new look, for no reason whatsoever. Not only a change in clothing, but his face changed too, and the vivid colours are toned down. Predictably enough, after Sinnoh, he decided to ditch his old Pokémon, lobotomize Pikachu and head for a new region. However, this time he's ditching Oak as well, sending his Pokémon to professor Juniper instead. Only the sixth generation will tell if this is staying, but I'm worried already. How long before it's never mentioned again that Ash is from Pallet, or his mother/Oak moving to Unova? The latter is unlikely, but still...

Then, the case of new Pokémon in old roles. For a moment, let's forget the ever-present Pidgey, Rattata and Pikachu clones; they have become a tradition at this point. Instead take this: the staple Pokémon of choice in Pokémon centres have always been Chansey and Blissey. I mean, how can you think "Nurse Joy" without an image of a Chansey by her side (or a lovestruck Brock, may he return ASAP)? Well, Game Freak wants to teach you how: Meet Audino.
What if I say "All-male Fighting Pokémon, constantly sparring and training martial arts"? Some will picture the classic Hitmonchan and Hitmonlee, while Black and White give us Throh and Sawk.
"Annoying bat jumping at you for every other step you take in a cave"? Zubat, Golbat, ooooor... yeah, Woobat and Swoobat.
"Annoying jellyfish jumping at you for every other step you take in the sea"? Tentacool has always been a staple here... until Frillish came along
"Huge, bulky Pokémon valued at construction sites due to their immense strength. Have to be traded to evolve". Machop or Conkeldurr, the choice is yours (at the moment). Here are a few more:

"Pokémon created by human carelessness, living and thriving in the pollution of large cities"
"Tapir-based Psychic Pokémon feeding off dreams"
"Tadpole-like Pokémon living in ponds"
"Bull Pokémon roaming the great plains"
"Weak fish Pokémon found everywhere you can surf or fish"
Smogon sums it up greatly here: http://www.smogon.com/smog/issue14/firstvsfifth
Also, it's important to note that the generation V Pokédex is the only one not to have any Pokémon from other generation related to it by evolution.

Last, I'd like to point out that the Pokémon World Championship only allows Unova Pokémon to be used this year. That's right, kids, forget the old and bring in the new.
With all the backwards compability of the games nowadays, it's likely that Game Freak will use the Generation V Pokémon primarily in the future, and keep the older ones as "history" for new players. As in, they are compatible with the new games, and some can be found directly in them as well, but they will have as little to do with the storylines as possible.

I don't know why you sound so disdainful. Pretty much all of the things you mentioned are an improvement. Fifth generation is way better than the fourth and third, and it's right up there with the second.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on March 11, 2011, 01:58:39 PM
^I haven't played the games yet, so I don't know if it will turn out any better or worse, but I still feel that they shouldn't just "replace" all the old Pokémon with new ones, if you get what I mean. It's like they "kick out" the ones who have filled certain roles since the first generation, put in some new and suspiciously similiar ones instead, and pretend the old ones never did anything but just existing. I know keeping track of almost 650 Pokémon is a hard task, but I feel that they shouldn't forget all the old ones.

I know it's better marketing to milk the new Pokémon for all they're worth, then create some more when people start losing interest, though, so sticking to the traditions makes no sense from a business perspective... still, it makes me sad. No matter how you word it, Poliwag is better than Tympole, Pidgey curb-stomps Pidove any day, Woobat is a silly excuse for a Zubat, etc. Yes, I will learn to love the fifth gen. Pokémon one day too, but in my heart, there's nothing like the original 151. Seeing Sentret and eventually Zigzagoon take Rattata's place saddened me, as I knew they were essentially the same Pokémon, but the concept eventually grew on me. Same with the birds of the respective regions, but when they extend this and put in new Pokémon for every role in the games, I die a little inside... a little pick and mix wouldn't have hurt, would it? Sure, I too am annoyed by always meeting Zubat and Tentacool, but who's to say they are the only Pokémon in four generations that can inhabit their respective caves and seas en masse?*

Also, I forgot something in my last post: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_Unova_Pok%C3%A9dex_number
These are the new Pokémon (yes, spoiler alert and all that) listed up. Do anyone else thing that after Zoroark, as listed, the Pokémon become more original (with the exception of Emolga)? It seems like they've put the old and used concepts at the top half of the Pokédex, and the original concepts at the bottom...

*Yes, I know that you technically can blame Woobat's type advantage over Zubat to explain how there are no Zubat in Unova, but Staryu never expelled Tentacool from the seas... Though Staryu are dwelling at the bottom of the oceans, while Tentacool float on the surface.... bah! Can't make a logically sound argument!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: fingerz on March 11, 2011, 05:48:25 PM
Don't worry. You can find most the old Pokemon once you've beaten the game once.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on March 11, 2011, 06:46:29 PM
Quote from: Cobraroll on March 11, 2011, 01:58:39 PMAlso, I forgot something in my last post: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_Unova_Pok%C3%A9dex_number
These are the new Pokémon (yes, spoiler alert and all that) listed up. Do anyone else thing that after Zoroark, as listed, the Pokémon become more original (with the exception of Emolga)? It seems like they've put the old and used concepts at the top half of the Pokédex, and the original concepts at the bottom...

I can see where you're coming from there! (BTW the Pokemon have been out for like a few weeks now...just so you know... you don't have to worry about spoilers)

I truthfully think Blitzle is the bigger Pikachu copy than Emolga... Blitzle is just overused. xD Nothing wrong with it...but it is overused. So is Darmanitan.

Minccino... <3 I think it's my new favorite Unova Pokemon.

Also, I exclude Vanillite's family from the cool designs... though I suppose it was "original"... xD

I am quite happy with these Pokemon... the only one I really HATE is Ferroseed.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on March 11, 2011, 09:05:51 PM
I absolutely hate that steel spider... absolutely hate it.. oh and the tentacool replacement (the one that is blue or pink)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on March 12, 2011, 06:20:18 AM
Urgh, Frillish is so dumb.

Also, I think Conkeldurr's family would be cool... but its nose throws me off. Reminds me of a clown. D:
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on March 12, 2011, 08:28:43 AM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on March 12, 2011, 06:20:18 AMUrgh, Frillish is so dumb.

Also, I think Conkeldurr's family would be cool... but its nose throws me off. Reminds me of a clown. D:
because it is.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on March 14, 2011, 03:09:39 PM
Bulbapedia is being murdered.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: fingerz on March 15, 2011, 01:59:08 PM
OH GOD! :O
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on March 15, 2011, 01:59:51 PM
Mass surge of people who want to make their way through the game like 40x easier.

It should taper off by the end of April
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperRiolu on April 05, 2011, 06:48:12 PM
When does the Global Link thingy that connects us to the DreamWorld up?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on April 05, 2011, 06:49:30 PM
No sé, t'was supposed to be at the end of March but they have to save energy in Japan. Check the GL website for more information.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on April 05, 2011, 06:49:58 PM
My guess is late April/early May
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperRiolu on April 11, 2011, 10:25:41 PM
Woo! April 13th! That's tomorrow! I am so excited!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on April 12, 2011, 07:55:01 AM
we so excited
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Dude on April 12, 2011, 02:34:22 PM
7778 views as of just now.

cool.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on May 05, 2011, 01:11:00 PM
Minor bump here...

Anyway, I need some help on B/W: Namely, the Battle Subway. I've got a few questions:
1) Does a victory on a Super Line yield more BP than the 3 you get for beating the Normal Line?
2) Anybody know about a good strategy/combo for Double Battles? I am currently leading with Krookodile and Gyarados (Intimidate + immunity to Earthquake), with Chandelure and special orientated Lucario as backup. It works, but I rarely have the margins on my side, and I feel that the team in general is too slow. Do you have any better suggestions? I currently do not have access to the Internet on my DS (thus no Dream World Pokémon, or trading for that matter, so I can only use Pokémon you can find on White).

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Clanker37 on May 09, 2011, 06:46:40 AM
Quote from: Cobraroll on May 05, 2011, 01:11:00 PMMinor bump here...

Anyway, I need some help on B/W: Namely, the Battle Subway. I've got a few questions:
1) Does a victory on a Super Line yield more BP than the 3 you get for beating the Normal Line?
2) Anybody know about a good strategy/combo for Double Battles? I am currently leading with Krookodile and Gyarados (Intimidate + immunity to Earthquake), with Chandelure and special orientated Lucario as backup. It works, but I rarely have the margins on my side, and I feel that the team in general is too slow. Do you have any better suggestions? I currently do not have access to the Internet on my DS (thus no Dream World Pokémon, or trading for that matter, so I can only use Pokémon you can find on White).

Thanks in advance!
1.Yes , it starts at 5 BP and goes up by 1 every 7  battles you win

2. Your team is very well thought our for Doubles and it's much better than mine(Tyranitar, Garchomp, Excadrill and Stramie all spamming Surfs and Earthquakes)There is an interesting combo for the battle subway. Spiritomb/Sableye and Shedninja. Simply use Skill Swap with each other and congradulations! You can now beat any trainer on the Battle Subway.This is for people who don't want to risk losing and don't mind the shame.(I don't recommend this method for Wi-Fi or Competitive battleing as your opponent may turn their DS/Emulator Off)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on May 09, 2011, 06:52:59 AM
Wonder Guard can't be Skill Swapped.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on May 09, 2011, 09:59:03 AM
^Plus the fact that neither Shedinja, Spiritomb or Skill Swap Sableye is native to White...

Either way, thanks for the clarification on the BP, Clanker!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Clanker37 on May 10, 2011, 03:16:45 AM
Quote from: Roz~ on May 09, 2011, 06:52:59 AMWonder Guard can't be Skill Swapped.
Oh thats disapointing but understandable
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: fingerz on May 10, 2011, 02:59:25 PM
I hate the pricks that hack Pokemon such as Sableye with Wonder Guard...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on May 10, 2011, 03:28:01 PM
And there was also the fake Wondertomb distribution at the tour. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: fingerz on May 10, 2011, 03:28:31 PM
Oh yes. Forgot about that.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on May 10, 2011, 04:45:33 PM
The only reason why that Spiritomb was able to be distributed is that people are ignorant.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on May 10, 2011, 05:45:30 PM
Quote from: fingerz on May 10, 2011, 02:59:25 PMI hate the pricks that hack Pokemon such as Sableye with Wonder Guard...

I did that for lulz once for battle frontier.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on May 10, 2011, 05:45:49 PM
That would be hilarious
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on May 11, 2011, 09:46:08 AM
Finally beat the Super Double Train (once)!

Leading with Lum Berry Hydreigon and Expert Belt Krookodile, with Lucario and Gyarados as backup seemed to do the trick. Would probably be better if I got a Krookodile with a proper Nature and EVs, though. Raising at random with a Bold nature isn't exactly the best way to train a Krookodile. Should probable have replaced Lucario as well, as my current team have three Pokémon weak to Fighting, and Lucario is both fragile and slow.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on May 11, 2011, 04:49:13 PM
90 base speed stat is not slow. It's fairly decent. Also ES if you want it to be fast since it's a priority move.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on May 12, 2011, 10:15:14 AM
Wrong nature (I used it in-game, and didn't want to roll around Challenger's Cave for eternities finding a Riolu with the right nature), and not proper EV training makes a Lucario slow. I got one with a Quiet nature, which meant good Sp.Atk, but terrible Speed. It wasn't until later I started to look for proper natures and stuff, and I haven't bothered to train "doubles" yet.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on June 11, 2011, 10:07:48 AM
BUMP.

So I'm bored and started breeding Eevees.

So far I've only breeded one while I was eating, I'm going to edit my post when I breed other 'mons.

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pokemonelite2000.com%2Fsprites%2Fbws%2F133.png&hash=00172af3a4377a87b2dedec3734b62f587189be6)
Timid nature
31/31/31/31/31/30 HP Ice 70
Egg moves: Wish
Hatch location: Lighthouse
Meant to be a Jolteon.

If you guys want a copy of one of my Eevees just hit me up so we can trade. They are on my HG cartridge though.
Oh and if you have ideas for hatch locations then please tell me. Some are obvious, like Glaceon @ Ice Path, but I'm not sure about where I should hatch the others.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on June 11, 2011, 11:58:52 AM
Well when you breed a Leafeon-ready Eevee then let me know! XD

Vaporeon-Whirl Islands/Cerulean City
Flareon-Cinnabar Island
Jolteon-Power Plant
Espeon-Saffron City?
Umbreon-Rocket Hideout?
Leafeon-Ilex Forest
Glaceon-Ice Path
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on June 11, 2011, 12:03:24 PM
Power Plant is too obvious, so I hatched my Jolteon in the Lighthouse. :P
And Rocket's Hideout is pretty good for Umbreon. Definitely hatching it there.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Olimar12345 on June 11, 2011, 04:08:56 PM
...still no meloetta for me. :/ lol, I even managed to get the other two legendary pkmn that aren't released...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on June 20, 2011, 03:36:14 PM
http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/A_nine-year-old_boy_saved_Pok%C3%A9mon_TCG

hell yeah
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Ragster2448 on June 20, 2011, 03:39:04 PM
I salute that kid.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on June 20, 2011, 04:03:38 PM
We did that at my school when Pokémon cards were banned ~10 years ago, but it didn't work. D:

Also

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg9.imageshack.us%2Fimg9%2F2208%2Fpokegate.jpg&hash=4f65705038cf47ae6b18bd69b220c7acd41a1a38)

I KNEW IT.
DISCUSS.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: fingerz on June 20, 2011, 06:44:36 PM
Wait. What?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Olimar12345 on June 20, 2011, 07:04:25 PM
Quote from: fingerz on June 20, 2011, 06:44:36 PMWait. What does this the purpose of this picture? Clearly they swapped it but so what? Is it an inside-joke or something? Man, am I confused!
My thoughts exactly, fingerz!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on June 20, 2011, 07:24:04 PM
You actually need to be kind of retarded to not understand that picture.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Olimar12345 on June 20, 2011, 07:28:02 PM
well then I'm retarded-whats the joke here?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: fingerz on June 20, 2011, 07:30:19 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on June 20, 2011, 07:24:04 PMYou actually need to be kind of retarded to not understand that picture.
Yes, well I'm sorry. Butterfree does look somewhat like an evolution of Venonat, but I don't get it.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Olimar12345 on June 20, 2011, 08:22:08 PM
yeah, I guess they look kinda like they belong the second way, but if thats it then I am dissappointed...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on June 21, 2011, 12:48:54 PM
Yeah, it's supposed to be a little "mindscrew". Butterfree looks more like it's related to Venonat than to Metapod.

Also, why is Psyduck golden and Golduck psychic?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on June 22, 2011, 02:42:16 PM
Neither Psyduck nor Golduck is actually Psychic.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on June 23, 2011, 05:24:52 AM
^Not by type, but try reading its PokéDex entries (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Golduck#Pok.C3.A9dex_entries)...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on June 23, 2011, 08:51:28 AM
Psyduck has psychic abilities too then if you're going by Pokedex entries. ;)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: amnesia01 on July 29, 2011, 04:37:59 AM
Quote from: drpamplemousse on March 11, 2011, 09:05:51 PMI absolutely hate that steel spider... absolutely hate it.. oh and the tentacool replacement (the one that is blue or pink)

Your right, jellicents are sooo annoying-they just won't leave me alone!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on July 29, 2011, 10:53:09 AM
jellicents are excellent for sp. def training.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: fingerz on July 31, 2011, 11:21:04 PM
They're annoying if you try to kill them with an Emboar that knows no dark moves and all your other moves are special. I couldn't even hit a Lickwit until it learnt a dark move. :(
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 01, 2011, 12:03:26 AM
I really get annoyed with the non physical/special split now. In Ruby I keep remembering that's not there yet and I'm just like "ffff wait no what's this move again"
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on August 01, 2011, 12:06:50 AM
agree. physical/special split was one of the greatest things to ever happen and playing without it is just odd.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 01, 2011, 12:09:18 AM
If I could remember what was what, it'd be more bearable.

but I know the elemental punches were special and ooooh that can screw people over. That split was seriously amazing.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 01, 2011, 07:34:47 AM
Hey Nebbles, it's hard to remember if you can just remember one thing: it's not the MOVES that are physical/special, it's the types. :P Here:

The move will be special if you use a move that is type:
Fire
Water
Electric
Grass
Ice
Psychic
Dragon
Dark

It will be physical if you use a move that is type:
Normal
Fighting
Poison
Ground
Flying
Bug
Rock
Ghost
Steel

There! :)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 01, 2011, 07:40:48 AM
Ghost should've been Special instead of physical.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperFireKirby on August 01, 2011, 07:43:22 AM
yeah
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 01, 2011, 07:44:19 AM
Agreed. Especially because Shadow Ball lowered Sp. Defense. Wtf, makes no sense.

Plus it makes Gengar meh when in Gen IV it's fantastic.

Gengar's one of the only special Ghosts during that time, but still, it would have been great for Psychic types who needed something against other Psychics.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bespinben on August 01, 2011, 02:13:52 PM
I just had an epiphany! You know how in Pokémon B/W the back sprites of each Pokémon is super-pixely, even somewhat reminiscent of the days of Red/Blue sprites? Well I was thinking, when the enhanced Pokémon "Gray" version (title pending) comes out, the guys at Game Freak should re-do all the back sprites at high resolution, so that way when the camera zooms in on your Pokémon, it doesn't look like a pixely mess.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Winter on August 01, 2011, 05:31:43 PM
well it's probably a lot of work to have that many sprites. i believe they use the normal sprites, just inflated.

though it's probably possible to fix.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: fingerz on August 01, 2011, 08:44:18 PM
Quote from: winterkid09 on August 01, 2011, 05:31:43 PMwell it's probably a lot of work to have that many sprites. i believe they use the normal sprites, just inflated.

though it's probably possible to fix.
I reckon they did it on purpose to remind you of the old games. I quite like the pixelated Pokemon. :)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Fleetstar The Flygon on August 29, 2011, 09:07:49 PM
Since I'm new, I might as well state mah favorite pokemon. Alright..


Flygon is my favorite because.. well, I can't explain. One, it's a dragon-type (read my sig), and two, I don't know why, it seems to have my kind of personality. I really hate it in the games, though, it is just so weak. XP
My second is Riolu. Aura for the win!
My third shall be Zorua.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on August 30, 2011, 07:36:46 PM
lol, we made a separate topic for everything Pokemon-related, which is why "General" Pokemon isn't posted in much anymore.

No, but there is a favorite Pokemon thread.
And a Pokemon Rumble thread.
And a Black and White News Thread.
And a Pokemon Tournament Thread.
And probably some others that I'm forgetting.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on October 16, 2011, 12:50:26 AM
word of god says that N's real name is "Natural Harmonia Gropius".
http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Junichi_Masuda_reveals_information_on_N
http://www.gamefreak.co.jp/blog/dir/ (japanese)

discuss.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Clanker37 on October 16, 2011, 01:24:22 AM
BEST. NAME. EVER.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on October 16, 2011, 02:02:15 AM
that last name sounds like a tropius that....gropes you..o_O
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: fingerz on October 16, 2011, 09:50:47 PM
Quote from: Shadoninja on October 16, 2011, 02:02:15 AMthat last name sounds like a tropius that....gropes you..o_O
Made mah day! XD
Actually, I thought of the same thing!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 18, 2011, 08:20:09 AM
http://www.gamefreak.co.jp/blog/dir_english/?p=467

Absolutely fascinating if you can get past the poor translation job.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on December 16, 2011, 08:21:34 PM
Quote from: Jub3r7 on December 15, 2011, 11:17:38 AMEr, bump.

Dragon Energy (TCG) coming out next year for the zodiac. O:
really? that'll be interesting.



pokemon + nobunaga's ambition looks like my kind of game.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on December 16, 2011, 08:24:22 PM
Yeah, I wonder how it'll change the metagame.

And the game looks really interesting, hopefully it'll be released here.

Edit: Trailer. Looks awesome. I'd definitely buy it if it were released here. And considering it's Pokémon and Pokémon games sell here, I think we may be able to play.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=u34bzH5Eo04
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on February 01, 2012, 06:39:42 PM
this is actually pretty cool. I'd totally play this.

http://kotaku.com/5881137/yes-more-footage-of-the-bootleg-pokemon-fighting-game
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on February 02, 2012, 03:46:51 PM
Quote from: Shadoninja on February 01, 2012, 06:39:42 PMthis is actually pretty cool. I'd totally play this.

http://kotaku.com/5881137/yes-more-footage-of-the-bootleg-pokemon-fighting-game

Put this in the DO WANT. thread
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Winter on February 03, 2012, 12:20:51 AM
quadruple
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Raymondbl on February 03, 2012, 06:08:26 AM
LET'S STOP FIGHTING FOR PAGE 100. 

I have two trainer stars...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on February 03, 2012, 07:08:57 AM
Never got past one, in most games. Do have two in FireRed, though.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on February 03, 2012, 07:34:44 AM
Hmm I dunno, I think I have one, maybe two. I don't really care about them so I've never really tried to get more than one.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on February 03, 2012, 05:44:50 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on February 03, 2012, 07:34:44 AMHmm I dunno, I think I have one, maybe two. I don't really care about them so I've never really tried to get more than one.
Roz got page 100.

Jub3r7 is moritified.

He ragequits.

That is all.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on February 03, 2012, 05:48:49 PM
Roz uses Page 100 get!
It's super effective!
Jub fainted.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on February 03, 2012, 07:29:05 PM
SHADO used Deny Page 100 Get

It was super Lulzy!

Jub3r7 used Triple Post Spam.

It was super annoying!



so if you could have one pokemon ability, which one would you pick?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on February 03, 2012, 07:41:27 PM
Quote from: Shadoninja on February 03, 2012, 07:29:05 PMso if you could have one pokemon ability, which one would you pick?
Hmm...wonder guard Illusion.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on February 03, 2012, 07:52:19 PM
Frisk.... ;)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on February 03, 2012, 08:12:58 PM
Quote from: xK-NiGhTx on February 03, 2012, 07:41:27 PMwonder gaurd duh
Atrocious spelling fail.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on February 03, 2012, 09:35:56 PM
You guise are evil. :(
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on February 03, 2012, 09:51:12 PM
Quote from: Jub3r7 on February 03, 2012, 09:35:56 PMYou guise are evil. :(
maybe you need to stop caring about getting a certain page :P

I would probably pick natural cure so that I basically never get sick.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on February 03, 2012, 10:08:14 PM
^meh, I'm not sick enough normally...

Super Luck sounds tempting. And lol, Frisk would be great XD prolly Super Luck, Cute Charm, or Technician.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on February 04, 2012, 03:04:25 AM
Wonder Guard!
Or yet better, Drought!
Or maybe Air Lock would be better. Negates whatever bad weather it currently is.
Adaptability would be cool as well. Changing one's cellular structure to perform better in the given environment.
No Guard would mean that you could never fail. That would be kinda awesome.
Levitate... nifty indeed.
Illuminate could be handy as well. Unless you're in the military, that is.
White Smoke... Because who doesn't want to be surrounded by smoke?
Imposter would just be boring. Never able to be oneself except when alone.
In a city like this, Rain Dish would have been a fantastic trait to have.
Immunity has the potential to be cool too. Eat whatever you want; it won't kill you.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on February 04, 2012, 08:24:03 AM
In all seriousness levitate probably wins hands-down imo
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Clanker37 on February 04, 2012, 09:03:16 PM
I guess I'd like Limber. Being able to preform heaps of crazy stunts with out getting paralasis would be pretty awesome.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on February 04, 2012, 09:20:04 PM
Hmm yeah definitely solidfying Super Luck.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: garlicbananas on February 07, 2012, 07:34:01 PM
I actually do have a pokemon ability!  It's called slow start.

If I could choose one?  Own-Tempo would be awesome.  I hate being confused.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on February 07, 2012, 07:40:33 PM
Quote from: Clanker37 on February 04, 2012, 09:03:16 PMI guess I'd like Limber. Being able to preform heaps of crazy stunts with out getting paralasis would be pretty awesome.
I betcha Jackie Chan has Limber as his ability.

Quote from: garlicbananas on February 07, 2012, 07:34:01 PMI actually do have a pokemon ability!  It's called slow start.

If I could choose one?  Own-Tempo would be awesome.  I hate being confused.

Own Tempo would be neat. I wonder if that would mean you can basically comprehend anything.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on February 08, 2012, 05:47:45 AM
Early Bird would be useful. I can't just pick one ability though, a lot of them would be awesome to have.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: garlicbananas on February 08, 2012, 01:44:46 PM
Quote from: Shadoninja on February 07, 2012, 07:40:33 PMI wonder if that would mean you can basically comprehend anything.
Infinite knowledge?  That could end badly.  Trust me, I watch cartoons.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on February 08, 2012, 04:04:16 PM
Infinite knowledge isn't the same thing as never being confused.  :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on February 08, 2012, 07:08:52 PM
Quote from: xK-NiGhTx on February 03, 2012, 08:12:58 PMAtrocious spelling fail.
I just realized i got page 100 by pointing out a spelling error.

xK-NiGhTx used Page 100 get!
Jub3r7 died!

HEHEBWABWABWA
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on February 09, 2012, 05:46:41 AM
I think Own Tempo would be more like not taking notice of what's happening around you. It's not that you understand everything, or have infinite knowledge, you're more like Goofy, too dumb to realize how dumb he really is. But he's still a very happy and carefree guy.

Also, Inner Focus might suck in the games, but in reality it would be quite nice. Complete mastery of the situation, never letting anything put you off.

Overcoat falls in the same category. Weather's bad? No problem.

Speed Boost... well, guess it could be useful unless your perception of time slows down as your speed increases. So that a boring math class of 45 minutes is percieved as lasting four hours.

Heatproof... I'd imagine it affecting your skin somewhat, but it makes up for it by making you able to withstand high temperatures better.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on February 09, 2012, 01:14:32 PM
Quote from: xK-NiGhTx on February 08, 2012, 07:08:52 PMI just realized i got page 100 by pointing out a spelling error.

xK-NiGhTx used Page 100 get!
Jub3r7 died!

HEHEBWABWABWA
I'm actually waiting to delete my post on the page before that, I sorta put you in that position. d:
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on February 09, 2012, 07:13:59 PM
Not really gonna bother me...it'll just look odd.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on February 25, 2012, 02:30:10 PM
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.serebii.net%2Fposter.jpg&hash=8036b7d010e287c3840b3eafb0749ea2ca316c40)

How many different Kyurem do you see?

EDIT: Pokémon Black 2 and Pokémon White 2 just announced. No Grey/Gray. TWO new games.

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fserebii.net%2Fkyuremforms2.jpg&hash=bb34062c09861bb1f2cb7c56ad9dd1da598b9571)

And two new Kyurem formes. Look interesting, though. Definitely better than the original. But that's only because the original is so ugly.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on February 25, 2012, 04:10:10 PM
Wow mind blown. I told myself I'd get out of pokemon..

EDIT: This also means we'll finally see an Ice + Electric and Ice + Fire type I presume.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on February 25, 2012, 04:47:24 PM
HOLY SHIT AM I EXCITED
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on February 25, 2012, 05:02:24 PM
I hate when I work, everybody beats me to the news XD yeah, they look amazing! And already gonna be released this June? Wow.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on February 25, 2012, 05:43:15 PM
So for those of you that'll get one of these, will you choose the same version you bought when B/W were first released, or purchase the other version?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Olimar12345 on February 25, 2012, 05:45:56 PM
ds or 3ds?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on February 25, 2012, 05:48:52 PM
Quote from: spitllama on February 25, 2012, 05:43:15 PMSo for those of you that'll get one of these, will you choose the same version you bought when B/W were first released, or purchase the other version?
It'll depend but most likely the other version.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on February 25, 2012, 05:49:26 PM
Quote from: spitllama on February 25, 2012, 05:43:15 PMSo for those of you that'll get one of these, will you choose the same version you bought when B/W were first released, or purchase the other version?

hah dude I'm getting both
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on February 25, 2012, 05:52:11 PM
The same. And for DS, thank god.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on February 25, 2012, 05:56:48 PM
I hear there will be extra features for the DSi and 3DS.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on February 25, 2012, 05:58:11 PM
Can someone explain to me the nonsense of this?

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fserebii.net%2Fnobunaga%2Fbox.jpg&hash=7e513c816b7b1b41f74dfb49128ba73822a7fee3)

K thx
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Olimar12345 on February 25, 2012, 05:58:59 PM
I'm getting black 2.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on February 25, 2012, 06:06:58 PM
Quote from: spitllama on February 25, 2012, 05:58:11 PMCan someone explain to me the nonsense of this?

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fserebii.net%2Fnobunaga%2Fbox.jpg&hash=7e513c816b7b1b41f74dfb49128ba73822a7fee3)

K thx
1)It is NOT nonsense
2)Nobunaga's Ambition is a series of Turn-Based Strategy games developed by Koei
3)Turn-Based Strategy is awesome
4)kthxbai

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_%2B_Nobunaga%27s_Ambition
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Olimar12345 on February 25, 2012, 06:11:39 PM
Looks kinda dumb imo.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on February 25, 2012, 06:19:22 PM
Quote from: Olimar12345 on February 25, 2012, 06:11:39 PMLooks kinda dumb imo.
YOU look dumb >: UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Clanker37 on February 25, 2012, 06:29:43 PM
Oh noes! I got Black and White and expected one third release! Now I don't know which game to get :U
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on February 25, 2012, 06:36:01 PM
WHAT THE FUCK NINTENDO.
WHAT.
THE.
FUCK.

Guess I'll be getting Black again if it's worth it.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on February 25, 2012, 07:39:29 PM
Quote from: Shadoninja on February 25, 2012, 05:56:48 PMI hear there will be extra features for the DSi and 3DS.

Prolly same as before, the WPA connection support.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Winter on February 26, 2012, 01:09:27 AM
broke folk :'(
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on February 26, 2012, 06:54:15 AM
Are you really saying you can't save up $35 before this December?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on February 26, 2012, 07:29:11 AM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on February 25, 2012, 07:39:29 PMProlly same as before, the WPA connection support.
Maybe, but I'm hoping for some other things like maybe cool spotpass functions.

I hope they make the bottom screen less suck. I hated the C-Gear in general.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on February 26, 2012, 07:56:14 AM
They definitely won't be getting rid of the C Gear...it was such a convenient way of trading and didn't bother most people at all... and I don't see how Spotpass on a normal DS game is possible. I doubt it.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on February 26, 2012, 08:08:42 AM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on February 26, 2012, 07:56:14 AMThey definitely won't be getting rid of the C Gear...it was such a convenient way of trading and didn't bother most people at all... and I don't see how Spotpass on a normal DS game is possible. I doubt it.
It was very nice for trading, but for general use I didn't bother with it and having it turned off left it blank. That's such a waste. I much prefer the menus in heartgold for example, having that quick access to stuff that I would use more often. What they could probably do would probably just have the C-Gear as a seperate button/menu.
 
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on February 26, 2012, 08:17:59 AM
That would be nice, but personally I didn't care for HeartGold/SoulSilver's excessive touch screen use...it didn't feel as much like Pokemon to me. And I like seeing my cute little Minccino on the bottom screen. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on February 26, 2012, 10:11:27 AM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on February 26, 2012, 06:54:15 AMAre you really saying you can't save up $35 before this December?
People have more important expenses that may exceed the amount that they make. Like me, I'm expecting to not have anything in my savings account at the end of the year.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: garlicbananas on February 26, 2012, 11:54:19 AM
I was really hoping they would make it for the 3DS.  It seems that the limits of the DS's capabilities have been reached.  I do hope that they take some risks with these because frankly there needs to be a big change to the pokemon formula, even if it's something like 3D character models.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on February 26, 2012, 11:59:24 AM
^Why would they need to change the tried and true formula? After all, their target market is kids aged 5-12, those who started playing some time after Ruby/Sapphire were released. If us "old-schoolers" could keep playing with the same formula for two or three generations before giving in, sure the kids born after the turn of the millennium can too.

There is no money in trying to cater the franchise to the people who grew up with the games, simply put. New games are released for new players.

Thus, I doubt we'll ever see R/B/Y remade again. There is only so much you can earn by catering to nostalgia.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on February 26, 2012, 12:01:41 PM
Why the hell would they remake RBY anyway? It's already been remade.

People are still wanting RSE remakes as well... which will probably come sooner or later, I suppose.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on February 26, 2012, 02:01:42 PM
I am strongly against Pokemon 3DS games at this point. Black and White were the most polished, best, closest to perfect Pokemon games so far; I don't think the formula should be changed. The 3DS does not seem suited for main series Pokemon games and wouldn't have much more to offer beyond Spotpass. I hope for RSE remakes soon.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on February 26, 2012, 03:19:22 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on February 26, 2012, 02:01:42 PMI am strongly against Pokemon 3DS games at this point. Black and White were the most polished, best, closest to perfect Pokemon games so far; I don't think the formula should be changed. The 3DS does not seem suited for main series Pokemon games and wouldn't have much more to offer beyond Spotpass. I hope for RSE remakes soon.
Maybe they'll come out with a 3DS and DS version of a game, like with Blue/Red rescue team? :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on February 26, 2012, 03:27:02 PM
Black 2 and White 2 have been announced in Japan! So there really isn't a gray... :(
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on February 26, 2012, 03:28:34 PM
That was announced two pages back. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on February 26, 2012, 03:37:18 PM
Quote from: K-NiGhT on February 26, 2012, 03:27:02 PMBlack 2 and White 2 have been announced in Japan! So there really isn't a gray... :(
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1.kym-cdn.com%2Fentries%2Ficons%2Foriginal%2F000%2F000%2F128%2Fslowpoke_pokemon.gif&hash=432324f281fe3d00a48c5c10d82472b1461e406a)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on February 26, 2012, 04:06:41 PM
Psh i dont read in context. I thought i was making a profound discovery here :(

But anyway, i'm up to challenge anybody else who gets it when it comes out. Oshawott ftw!!!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on February 26, 2012, 04:08:47 PM
Quote from: K-NiGhT on February 26, 2012, 04:06:41 PMBut anyway, i'm up to challenge anybody else who gets it when it comes out. Oshawott ftw!!!

Challenge accepted.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on February 26, 2012, 04:15:13 PM
Quote from: K-NiGhT on February 26, 2012, 04:06:41 PMPsh i dont read in context. I thought i was making a profound discovery here :(

But anyway, i'm up to challenge anybody else who gets it when it comes out. Oshawott ftw!!!

I knew about it like
When Jun'ichi Masuda tweeted about it
He replies to most of my tweets :P He replies to a lot of people though.

Also NOWAI I ACCEPT Snivy is my favorite.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on February 26, 2012, 04:21:18 PM
Quote from: Shadoninja on February 26, 2012, 04:08:47 PMChallenge accepted.

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdb.tt%2FB4sH2gBL&hash=90a15bf33a0c1187a24e06a638db4110f3ff026f)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Funktastic~! on February 26, 2012, 04:42:54 PM
I'm wonder if the new games will have older generation Pokemon available from the start.  It makes sense if they do since time has gone by and stuff.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on February 26, 2012, 05:08:24 PM
That would be EPIC
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Funktastic~! on February 26, 2012, 05:36:44 PM
There's so much they can do with these new games.  I'm so excited, and I have so many theories about 'em.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on February 26, 2012, 05:39:50 PM
Quote from: Funktastic~! on February 26, 2012, 05:36:44 PMThere's so much they can do with these new games.  I'm so excited, and I have so many theories about 'em.
Next thing you know, the protagonist and his friends are adults.

Or maybe somehow you play as N (unlikely)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on February 26, 2012, 05:42:05 PM
I hope they put the entralink over wifi :o
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Funktastic~! on February 26, 2012, 06:30:00 PM
Quote from: Shadoninja on February 26, 2012, 05:39:50 PMNext thing you know, the protagonist and his friends are adults.

Or maybe somehow you play as N (unlikely)

Well, while that may be unlikely, I think it's very likely that N'll show up, since as far as I've heard the Black Kyurem and White Kyurem are the mascots for Black 2 and White 2 respectively.  Assuming they're actually some sort of fusion between Zekrom + Kyurem/Reshiram + Kyurem, you'd have to get the dragon N has.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on February 26, 2012, 06:37:23 PM
Funktastic - OH HAY GURL. Nice to see you joined~

But I'd love to see the protagonists as adults and like they'd have kids ;v;
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Funktastic~! on February 26, 2012, 06:45:32 PM
Nebbles - Sup!

I'd love to see the protagonists as kids.

wait wait you know what'd be great?  Seeing Red as an adult with a family or something. 
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on February 26, 2012, 06:59:10 PM
awww that'd be cute
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Funktastic~! on February 27, 2012, 06:34:35 AM
The new games have a confirmed Autumn 2012 release for the UK!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on February 27, 2012, 08:28:21 AM
Quote from: Nebbles on February 26, 2012, 06:37:23 PMBut I'd love to see the protagonists as adults and like they'd have kids ;v;
They should seriously make another game that caters to a target market of 13+, with a new story type (like you have a profession to earn money... you don't get money by beating trainers), bur you still have to go get the 8 Badges and stuff. It should definitely be much more friendly to those who had RBY.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DonValentino on February 27, 2012, 10:40:15 AM
Why isn't there an "I'll buy both" option?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on February 27, 2012, 12:10:23 PM
^ yeah seriously, why isn't there??
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Funktastic~! on February 27, 2012, 12:48:03 PM
I know.  I mean, if I had to pick, I'd pick White because that's the one I played first, but I definitely want both.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: fingerz on February 27, 2012, 01:09:15 PM
Well, I'll be doing a bit of *cough* downloading *cough* to see if I want to actually buy this game. :P
I'm very careful about buying DS games, especially when they'll be gone in a year.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on February 27, 2012, 01:17:14 PM
I don't know that they will be. The 3DS isn't as efficient as the DS.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Funktastic~! on February 27, 2012, 01:53:12 PM
Meh, most DS emulators are pretty terrible, particularly for Pokemon games, so I'm just gonna go off of the information to see if I'll like them.  I'm not too worried about getting DS games when the DS seems like it's on the way out because they can be used on the 3DS.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Olimar12345 on February 27, 2012, 01:56:36 PM
I would never get an emulator for a pokemon game for these two reasons:

1) Pokemon games are already portable. Usually I only get emulators to make games portable.

2) I usually only play them to compete with my friends.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperFireKirby on February 27, 2012, 02:32:11 PM
It's official: GameFreak has run out of colors.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Funktastic~! on February 27, 2012, 02:33:23 PM
Or that Gamefreak finally decided to make a legitimate sequel, and not just a repeat of the first two games in the generation.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Olimar12345 on February 27, 2012, 02:38:36 PM
Quote from: SuperFireKirby on February 27, 2012, 02:32:11 PMIt's official: GameFreak has run out of colors.
YES lol!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on February 27, 2012, 02:58:54 PM
Quote from: Funktastic~! on February 27, 2012, 02:33:23 PMOr that Gamefreak finally decided to make a legitimate sequel, and not just a repeat of the first two games in the generation.

yup

Though if I were on the team, I'd start using ridiculous colors. Pokemon Mauve, anyone?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on February 27, 2012, 03:30:44 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on February 27, 2012, 02:58:54 PMyup

Though if I were on the team, I'd start using ridiculous colors. Pokemon Mauve, anyone?
Don't forget Pokemon Chartruse!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on February 27, 2012, 03:33:44 PM
We can use elements, too! Pokemon Einsteinium anyone??
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on February 27, 2012, 04:12:29 PM
I tried to think of a new element for Nebble's ideas, but all the good ones Argon.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on February 27, 2012, 04:16:03 PM
BOOOOOOO /throws tomato
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on February 27, 2012, 04:19:23 PM
D:

What? That joke was sodium good.


EDIT: Fine I zinc I'll be done.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on February 27, 2012, 04:31:38 PM
omg stop
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Fleetstar The Flygon on February 27, 2012, 04:33:55 PM
Yes, it's rather boron. >:Z
Wait, Pokemon Black/White 2?!!!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on February 27, 2012, 04:39:57 PM
Quote from: Fleetstar The Flygon on February 27, 2012, 04:33:55 PMWait, Pokemon Black/White 2?!!!

yes.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Fleetstar The Flygon on February 27, 2012, 04:44:51 PM
I won't believe it 'till I see it... :3
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on February 27, 2012, 04:46:19 PM
uhh check any pokemon site. It'll be on there.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on February 27, 2012, 04:52:27 PM
Quote from: Fleetstar The Flygon on February 27, 2012, 04:44:51 PMI won't believe it 'till I see it... :3
Kotaku (http://kotaku.com/5888311/pokemon-black-2-pokemon-white-2-coming-this-summer/gallery/1)
Siliconera (http://www.siliconera.com/2012/02/25/pokemon-black-2-and-pokemon-white-2-coming-to-nintendo-ds-in-june/)
Serebii (http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml)
Pokemon.co.jp (http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/b2w2/)
Bulbapedia (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_Black_and_White_2_revealed_on_Pok%C3%A9mon_Smash!http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-video-games/pokemon-black-version-2-and-pokemon-white-version-2/)
Pokemon.com (http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-video-games/pokemon-black-version-2-and-pokemon-white-version-2/)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on February 27, 2012, 05:20:47 PM
Quote from: Funktastic~! on February 27, 2012, 02:33:23 PMOr that Gamefreak finally decided to make a legitimate sequel, and not just a repeat of the first two games in the generation.

That's not confirmed yet. It could very well be a remake.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Fleetstar The Flygon on February 27, 2012, 05:23:05 PM
..I stand corrected!

EDIT: So Reshiram and Zekrom have evolutions? No. Black/white Kyurem?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on February 27, 2012, 05:30:15 PM
Quote from: Fleetstar The Flygon on February 27, 2012, 05:23:05 PM..I stand corrected!

EDIT: So Reshiram and Zekrom have evolutions? No. What are those two mascots, then? D:
Kyuurem's alternate formes, Black Kyuurem and White Kyuurem.

Source: https://twitter.com/#!/junichi_masuda
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on February 27, 2012, 05:40:35 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on February 27, 2012, 05:20:47 PMThat's not confirmed yet. It could very well be a remake.

...why would they make a remake of a game that came out one year ago ._.

And seeing how it has "2" in the title, I'm inclined to believe it's a sequel.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on February 27, 2012, 05:46:47 PM
Lol it's not gonna be a sequel. It's gonna be a remake.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on February 27, 2012, 05:51:43 PM
And what makes you so sure? =/
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on February 27, 2012, 05:52:53 PM
http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_Black_and_White_2_revealed_on_Pok%C3%A9mon_Smash%21

"If these games are direct sequels of Black and White, as the title would suggest, they would be the first direct sequels in the Pokémon main series."
So there's no reason for slow to be sure, at all. >XD
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on February 27, 2012, 05:56:22 PM
Guys, I have a crazy idea, and its something I noticed about the newly revealed Pokémon games...notice how the two logos are Blue and Red...remind anyone of a set of remakes that we've been waiting for? I'm sure these sequels will have some form of a remake inside their covers... :D

Just an observation :)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on February 27, 2012, 05:58:26 PM
Quote from: Kman96 on February 27, 2012, 05:56:22 PMGuys, I have a crazy idea, and its something I noticed about the newly revealed Pokémon games...notice how the two logos are Blue and Red...remind anyone of a set of remakes that we've been waiting for? I'm sure these sequels will have some form of a remake inside their covers... :D

Just an observation :)
Maybe. Perhaps, the protagonist will have traveled outside of Unova for whatever reason.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on February 27, 2012, 06:11:32 PM
it doesn't make sense for those who haven't played the original though. And they're definitely gonna be remakes...just saying
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on February 27, 2012, 06:35:31 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on February 27, 2012, 06:11:32 PMit doesn't make sense for those who haven't played the original though.
It's obviously a marketing scheme to make people buy the original!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on February 27, 2012, 06:41:36 PM
Slow. Oh my god. Seriously. NO. >_> It doesn't make any sense.

We don't know anything. So stop being so fucking sure until we get more info.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Funktastic~! on February 27, 2012, 07:18:00 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on February 27, 2012, 05:20:47 PMThat's not confirmed yet. It could very well be a remake.

Why would they make a remake with the title "Black and White 2"?  Assuming you mean remakes like the third games, then there is no reason for them to be titled like like this. These aren't tentative titles, these are the actual titles.  Why would they give them this name if they planned on them being just normal third(technically third and fourth) versions?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on February 27, 2012, 07:20:41 PM
And also, why would they remake something a year later on the same console...?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on February 27, 2012, 07:33:19 PM
^Because they did that with Yellow, Crystal, Emerald, and Platinum?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on February 27, 2012, 07:34:32 PM
Regardless, I'm pretty sure these are sequels... not saying anything for definite, but still. I doubt they're remakes.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on February 27, 2012, 07:38:27 PM
Yah it's too early to decide. It's really suspicious that they'd alter the usual trend of just picking another color/element for the third game. "2" would usually refer to a sequel, movie or game. Yet at the same time it's a bit soon to have already made an entirely new story rather than just alter the game like usual. It could just be a marketing ploy.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on February 27, 2012, 07:42:49 PM
I think sequel makes a little more sense... just because it's not one game like remakes usually are.

I dunno. We need more info.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on February 27, 2012, 07:47:22 PM
I'd reccomend as soon as someone gets it somehow and posts it on youtube to see if it has the same content.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on February 27, 2012, 07:48:28 PM
I know someone who gets games from PlayAsia, so yes yes we shall see how this goes.

My money is going on sequels, though.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Funktastic~! on February 27, 2012, 07:50:00 PM
Quote from: spitllama on February 27, 2012, 07:38:27 PMYah it's too early to decide. It's really suspicious that they'd alter the usual trend of just picking another color/element for the third game. "2" would usually refer to a sequel, movie or game. Yet at the same time it's a bit soon to have already made an entirely new story rather than just alter the game like usual. It could just be a marketing ploy.

They could have been working on it while working on Black and White.  Iirc, Black and White were being worked on before HGSS even came out.  That'd also explain the super!early release date.

Edit: Also, you guys do know we'll get information about the games way before they come out, right? No reason to wait for the games to actually come out.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on February 27, 2012, 07:52:19 PM
Yeah, true.

But, until we get news from Serebii, we must play the waiting game...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on February 27, 2012, 07:53:23 PM
Definitely remakes, I'd guess they've been working on this since BW came out, hence the short waiting period. At the moment I'd wager they're working on the next big thing. :X I'll get one anyway though. BW were great enough for me to get a director's cut.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on February 27, 2012, 07:56:43 PM
no no NO STOP. SAYING. THAT.

please stop saying they're definitely remakes PLEASE. WE DON'T KNOW YET JESUS CHRIST
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on February 27, 2012, 08:00:20 PM
DEFINITELY REMAKES

Lol sorry, jk. Yeah I suppose not. I just think all the evidence points to that. I'll lighten up, didn't mean to upset you :P

POSSIBLY REMAKES
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on February 28, 2012, 03:09:29 AM
>_> thank you.

And I'm sticking with sequels.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on February 28, 2012, 06:25:31 AM
A lot of people think that the game's gonna be Unova + Hoenn, because of the airport in Idon'trememberthename's city + the names of the games are in red and blue. I mean it could makes sense, but I guess we'll see.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Clanker37 on February 28, 2012, 06:27:09 AM
Quote from: Roz~ on February 28, 2012, 06:25:31 AMA lot of people think that the game's gonna be Unova + Hoenn, because of the airport in Idon'trememberthename's city + the names of the games are in red and blue. I mean it could makes sense, but I guess we'll see.
YUS PRWEASE

Unlikely, but HOORAY FOR HOPE!

And it's Mistralton  ;)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Funktastic~! on February 28, 2012, 06:30:26 AM
I hope not.  I'd rather Hoenn get their own games, and thus, more focus.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on February 28, 2012, 06:32:21 AM
Quote from: Clanker37 on February 28, 2012, 06:27:09 AMYUS PRWEASE

Unlikely, but HOORAY FOR HOPE!

And it's Mistralton  ;)

Haven't played the game a lot, so I don't really know the names of the cities haha.

Quote from: Funktastic~! on February 28, 2012, 06:30:26 AMI hope not.  I'd rather Hoenn get their own games, and thus, more focus.

I don't like Hoenn, so I hope they're not in the sequels.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on February 28, 2012, 06:33:07 AM
It could be Red/Blue, because I remember the rival's music being remixed for the world champion battle.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on February 28, 2012, 06:33:53 AM
^That too. Anyways, whether it's Hoenn or Kanto I'll be happy, the games are gonna be longer.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on February 28, 2012, 06:39:34 AM
Hopefully they'll be longer even if they're not with another region. And some sort of Battle Frontier would be great.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on February 28, 2012, 06:42:33 AM
Haha yeah, it'd be fun. That and move tutors. Usually they appear in the third installment of the generation so hopefully there will be a battle frontier in B2W2.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Funktastic~! on February 28, 2012, 08:59:45 AM
I doubt it'll be Red and Blue.  The red and blue colors most likely refer to Zekrom(electric) and Reshiram(fire).

I do hope there's a Battle Frontier though.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: fabbemannen on February 28, 2012, 09:12:09 AM
Well, most of the world just found out now, you guys already have posted several pages about it (http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/b2w2/?a001=msign), and no, I won't read all the pages. I'm lazy nowadays

About the poll, I'm too broke for now, and I'm pretty sure that Grey will be for the 3DS, which gives me a good enough reason to wait
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on February 28, 2012, 09:43:27 AM
There's not going to be a Grey. LOL.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on February 28, 2012, 10:10:17 AM
Quote from: Funktastic~! on February 28, 2012, 08:59:45 AMI doubt it'll be Red and Blue.  The red and blue colors most likely refer to Zekrom(electric) and Reshiram(fire).

I do hope there's a Battle Frontier though.

That's what I think too, I just mentioned something people have been speculating about.
Also the games are gonna be released this autumn, hopefully I won't be too busy around that time of the year.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: fabbemannen on February 28, 2012, 10:39:46 AM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on February 28, 2012, 09:43:27 AMThere's not going to be a Grey. LOL.
If confirmed, give me a link. Seeing as the same company that registered the domain for BW registered one for grey, I'm pretty sure it will come.
With the research of mine, I've noticed how many that believes that grey will come for 3DS, and I don't see why it shouldn't really. Makes perfect sense to me
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on February 28, 2012, 10:42:21 AM
Quote from: fabbemannen on February 28, 2012, 10:39:46 AMSeeing as the same company that registered the domain for BW registered one for grey, I'm pretty sure it will come.
they could have just registered that domain so that some random idiot doesn't register it before them and then misleads a bunch of people.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Funktastic~! on February 28, 2012, 11:13:45 AM
Gamefreak registers them just in case.  For example, people thought Platinum would be called Opal because they bought the domain name for it. 
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: fabbemannen on February 28, 2012, 12:47:07 PM
Quote from: Shadoninja on February 28, 2012, 10:42:21 AMthey could have just registered that domain so that some random idiot doesn't register it before them and then misleads a bunch of people.
Doesn't that confuse them even more?

EDIT: btw, you guys remember that I said a new generation would be announced before nebble would finish drawing all those pokemons? I was partly right at least ^^
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on February 28, 2012, 01:17:19 PM
No...a new generation hasn't been announced... just different forms of Kyurem...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on February 28, 2012, 03:55:59 PM
Yeah, it's still gen five.

AND I WILL COMPLETE THAT CHALLENGE DAMN YOU >:I SUMMER PROJECT.

And B/W 2 are for regular DS.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Winter on February 29, 2012, 02:34:00 AM
Quote from: Nebbles on February 28, 2012, 03:55:59 PMregular DS.

Would have bought it.... guess... not...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on February 29, 2012, 04:06:20 AM
Why can't you just play it on your 3DS? The resolution is not that awful. So you're not gonna play Diamond or Pearl or anything because they're for DS? Why can't you play this?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on February 29, 2012, 11:58:16 AM
Black/White look absolutely fine on the 3DS. I assume B/W2 will be no different.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: fingerz on February 29, 2012, 12:52:59 PM
I find it quite funny what they've done this time around! Pokemon Black & White have the opposite coloured dragons in each game whilst Pokemon Black 2 & White 2 have the same coloured forme of Kyurem in each game. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on February 29, 2012, 01:13:29 PM
Makes you even more curious, huh?

We should get news soon, since Pokemon Sunday SHOULD offer a bit more. Then we have Corocoro scans due around March 13th-ish.

The waiting game is too long. :C
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on February 29, 2012, 02:16:58 PM
B&W 2 will be cool, but i want a new PMD!!! Gosh!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Funktastic~! on February 29, 2012, 02:25:50 PM
Quote from: K-NiGhT on February 29, 2012, 02:16:58 PMB&W 2 will be cool, but i want a new PMD!!! Gosh!

BW 2 coming out doesn't really have much to do with a new PMD game coming out.  Afaik, Chunsoft is working on other things right now.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on February 29, 2012, 02:27:41 PM
Quote from: Funktastic~! on February 29, 2012, 02:25:50 PMBW 2 coming out doesn't really have much to do with a new PMD game coming out.  Afaik, Chunsoft is working on other things right now.
Lol still want a new one, and i can think of one person at least who will definately agree with me xD
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on February 29, 2012, 02:30:53 PM
Which is me, right? XD I really want one too, but with these new games I can definitely wait.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on February 29, 2012, 03:30:02 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on February 29, 2012, 02:30:53 PMWhich is me, right? XD
Actually i was thinking Bespinben, but i thought of you too xD
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on February 29, 2012, 05:38:57 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on February 29, 2012, 02:30:53 PMWhich is me, right? XD I really want one too, but with these new games I can definitely wait.

Yeah... also my birthday is the 14th so that would be a good present!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Funktastic~! on February 29, 2012, 05:46:18 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on February 29, 2012, 05:38:57 PMYeah... also my birthday is the 14th so that would be a good present!

March birthday buddies! -high fives-  I'm just dying for new information.  The wait is killing me!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on February 29, 2012, 06:19:03 PM
*high five*

March is a good month for a birthday because nothing else happens during it.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on March 01, 2012, 12:18:21 AM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on February 29, 2012, 06:19:03 PM*high five*

March is a good month for a birthday because nothing else happens during it.
Naw cuz EVERYONE gets drunk on the 17th :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on March 01, 2012, 09:32:00 AM
Quote from: K-NiGhT on March 01, 2012, 12:18:21 AMNaw cuz EVERYONE gets drunk on the 17th :P
I won't... I'll be on a plane, getting settled in to my hotel in China.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Funktastic~! on March 01, 2012, 11:20:01 AM
And I won't be old enough to drink for another three years.

I'm kinda sad.  For the last three years I had new Pokemon games to look forward to.  It feels kinda weird.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on March 01, 2012, 04:53:05 PM
Huh... you mean that Pokemon games came out around your b-day, didn't they? I know HG/SS did... B/W... did Platinum too?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Funktastic~! on March 01, 2012, 04:57:50 PM
Yup, all three were my birthday presents (from my brother, no less, except for White).  Pearl was a birthday present too, but that came out a month after my birthday.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on March 01, 2012, 05:31:26 PM
Quote from: Funktastic~! on March 01, 2012, 04:57:50 PMYup, all three were my birthday presents (from my brother, no less, except for White).  Pearl was a birthday present too, but that came out a month after my birthday.

Hey. Beat this.

HeartGold and SoulSilver came out ON my birthday. >:-)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Funktastic~! on March 01, 2012, 05:40:02 PM
Wasn't really trying to have a competition. I was just commenting on the fact that I was able to get the most recent games as a birthday present without waiting too long. << Hopefully they come out relatively close to Christmas, or something.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on March 01, 2012, 05:45:49 PM
I'm sure they will :P Anywhere from the September~December area probably.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bespinben on March 17, 2012, 02:26:54 PM
Quote from: K-NiGhT on February 29, 2012, 02:27:41 PMLol still want a new PMD, and i can think of one person at least who will definately agree with me xD

MEEEEEE!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: dahans on March 18, 2012, 02:38:50 PM
lol I have never played PMD shame on me xD
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on March 18, 2012, 03:27:03 PM
Dahans, you should play them! They're amazing.

Also, I'm working on a bug team on SS per request of a follower on Tumblr. Believe it or not, it looks promising.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on March 19, 2012, 07:20:49 PM
Quote from: K-NiGhT on February 29, 2012, 02:27:41 PMLol still want a new one, and i can think of one person at least who will definately agree with me xD
Quote from: Bespinben on March 17, 2012, 02:26:54 PMMEEEEEE!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on March 21, 2012, 08:44:14 PM
http://kotaku.com/5894762/see-the-strangest-pokemon-game-in-action

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANT!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Funktastic~! on March 25, 2012, 08:33:58 AM
Quote from: Shadoninja on March 21, 2012, 08:44:14 PMhttp://kotaku.com/5894762/see-the-strangest-pokemon-game-in-action

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANT!

I was excited when I first about this, and nothing, so far, has disappointed me about this game.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on March 25, 2012, 08:35:26 AM
Gawd there better be a western release for this.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Funktastic~! on March 25, 2012, 08:38:22 AM
I know that a lot of people think that there won't be one because Nobunaga's Ambition isn't as popular in the west as it is in Japan, but with Pokemon added to it, I think there'll be good enough sales.  Plus, it's selling well enough in Japan.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on March 25, 2012, 09:02:15 AM
Yep, that's what I think too. It'll sell just because of the Pokemon part. And it might be appealing to those who enjoy RTS games too. The gameplay reminds me of Final Fantasy Tactics, and I loved that game.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on March 25, 2012, 04:21:18 PM
It reminds me of PMD and Fire Emblem. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: fingerz on March 25, 2012, 04:30:53 PM
Quote from: Jub3r7 on March 25, 2012, 04:21:18 PMIt reminds me of PMD and Fire Emblem. :P
Yeah, I thought of Fire Emblem.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Funktastic~! on March 25, 2012, 07:41:47 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on March 25, 2012, 09:02:15 AMYep, that's what I think too. It'll sell just because of the Pokemon part. And it might be appealing to those who enjoy RTS games too. The gameplay reminds me of Final Fantasy Tactics, and I loved that game.

Yeah, same.  FFT was basically the first major game I played besides Pokemon, and so I absolutely love it, and RTS games.  I think I'll cry if it doesn't come out here.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on March 25, 2012, 07:58:14 PM
Speaking of Nobunaga, have any of your looked at the artwork for it? Goddamn it's gorgeous.

Like look: http://www.serebii.net/nobunaga/pokemon.shtml

just god damn
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on March 25, 2012, 08:41:26 PM
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Nobunaga%27s_Ambition#Military_commanders

These should make for awesome desktop backgrounds...
Or maybe 3ds/wii mote skins? O:
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on March 26, 2012, 12:58:00 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on March 25, 2012, 07:58:14 PMSpeaking of Nobunaga, have any of your looked at the artwork for it? Goddamn it's gorgeous.

Like look: http://www.serebii.net/nobunaga/pokemon.shtml

just god damn

Omg the pokemon look badass. Makes me want the game even more.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on March 26, 2012, 02:36:43 PM
^Groudon, though:
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.serebii.net%2Fnobunaga%2Fpokemon%2F383.png&hash=3e794907ef9f75a373b6cc542cbd9815b3108bad)
"Like this? Is that good enough? Do I look scary? Should I- oh, you've taken the picture already?"
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on March 26, 2012, 02:37:52 PM
hahaha it does look quite derpy xD
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on March 26, 2012, 06:00:20 PM
:P I think it looks quite cool
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on March 26, 2012, 06:10:32 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on March 26, 2012, 06:00:20 PM:P I think it looks quite cool
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on March 26, 2012, 06:48:59 PM
Those...all look ridiculously fantastic...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on March 26, 2012, 07:47:59 PM
Groudon looks cooler in this picture.


(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.bulbagarden.net%2Fmedia%2Fupload%2F8%2F8d%2FTakeda_Shingen.png&hash=d257bd060f1f9fcb0c8317e5411bbc8e0365d80b)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on March 26, 2012, 07:50:12 PM
...yes, yes it does.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on April 04, 2012, 07:39:08 AM
Pokemon Conquest comes out June 18
http://kotaku.com/5899004/pokemon-conquest-brings-hit-japanese-game-to-america-for-the-ds

SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on April 04, 2012, 07:51:30 AM
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myfacewhen.net%2Fuploads%2F961-aww-yeah.jpg&hash=3399cb8d22e9f526c26bae098a769c2435b15541)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on April 04, 2012, 11:54:00 AM
ALL OF MY EXCITEMENT

FUCK GRADUATION, I'VE GOT POKEMON TO PLAY.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Clanker37 on April 05, 2012, 06:57:51 AM
Swept a team of six with a physical Azelf.

That was fun.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on April 12, 2012, 07:06:42 PM
New characters revealed for Black/White 2. discuss.

http://kotaku.com/5901279/meet-the-brand-new-pokemon-trainers/gallery/1
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on April 12, 2012, 07:17:14 PM
OH MY GOD THEY ARE LEGIT SEQUELS AFTER ALL :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Sir Dino on April 12, 2012, 07:21:24 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on April 04, 2012, 07:51:30 AM(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myfacewhen.net%2Fuploads%2F961-aww-yeah.jpg&hash=3399cb8d22e9f526c26bae098a769c2435b15541)
^ Nothing else can explain it any better
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on April 12, 2012, 07:22:07 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on April 12, 2012, 07:17:14 PMOH MY GOD THEY ARE LEGIT SEQUELS AFTER ALL :D
I TOLD YOU SO. XD
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on April 12, 2012, 07:37:03 PM
THE FEMALE TRAINER IS THE CUTEST THING EVER OMG
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on April 12, 2012, 07:43:14 PM
I personally liked the original BW trainer designs...the girl this time is cute but the boy's hair is so ridiculous... and I don't like how they look younger :P I liked the "older trainer" look better. These strike me as what GS was to RB--adding to the region, set a couple years later.

As to the 300 'mons in the regional dex--some new ones (like GS)? Or (more likely) a mix of all the regions? And if the second one is so, which ones would you like to see return?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on April 12, 2012, 07:46:20 PM
Is it still Unova... from what it looks like, it has some different buildings and layouts.

Maybe Johto/Kanto type thing?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on April 12, 2012, 07:48:10 PM
I know Eevee and Larvitar are in there... which is good enough for me.

And people are debating whether Unova is frozen over, or there's clouds covering a new region of Unova. What do you guys think?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on April 12, 2012, 07:51:27 PM
Frozen... kyurem = ice
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on April 12, 2012, 07:52:52 PM
^ valid point :3
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on April 12, 2012, 07:53:58 PM
I just saw the paragraph below the pictures.

It's a region south of Unova.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Sir Dino on April 12, 2012, 07:54:24 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on April 12, 2012, 07:51:27 PMFrozen... kyurem = ice
too true; gotta be some clouds covering a region yet to be discovered.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on April 12, 2012, 07:54:57 PM
Huh.

It could be either or? A frozen region?

So many wonders...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Sir Dino on April 12, 2012, 07:56:17 PM
This is the part where you just want to bang your computer and scream at it "TELL ME NOW" or something related to what I just described.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on April 12, 2012, 07:56:30 PM
The release is only 2 months away in Japan, so we shall see once I get a copy of the ROM in my hands!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Sir Dino on April 12, 2012, 07:58:40 PM
So true. ROMS are the sometimes the only way to get a game for free.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on April 12, 2012, 07:58:53 PM
Pretty much.

I NEED INFO /curls up and sobs
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Sir Dino on April 12, 2012, 08:01:22 PM
Since some that will not be mentioned are ready to start crying if they don't know what is going to happen in the newest upcoming pokemon game, I will begin to do some quick research.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on April 12, 2012, 08:01:57 PM
We all made it through the BW rumors in 2010.

We can make it though this!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Sir Dino on April 12, 2012, 08:02:40 PM
^ Well said DrP!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Sir Dino on April 12, 2012, 08:07:19 PM
Double-post.
Apprently, Pokemon Conquest takes place in the "Ransei" region, and apprently has a mix of all pokemon from Kanto/Johto/Hoenn/Unova, but I don't see Sinnoh pkmn... *continues the search*...

ADD: It's a mixed game with pkmn and nobunga's ambition (whatever that is) *continues searching*...

ADD AGAIN: about the location of the "ransei" region: well we know kanto/johto are together, in the center of pokéarth (don't ask), and hoenn is southwest of them, and the islands that you visit in kanto (i'm not sure as well in johto) are directly south of them, and then sinnoh is way off from all of them, east-bound from kanto/johto, and finally we have the the unova region, which I dont know at the moment where it is, having not played it yet. but as for pokemon conquest...... I have the feeling it's going to be somewhere northeast of kanth/johto, but correct me if i'm wrong/think i'm wrong. *stops searching*
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on April 12, 2012, 08:11:57 PM
Uhm we know all of that already...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Sir Dino on April 12, 2012, 08:17:36 PM
..oh right. boy I must have sounded stupid.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on April 12, 2012, 08:31:19 PM
Nah. Anyways, I'm fairly certain that it takes place in the past?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Sir Dino on April 12, 2012, 08:34:02 PM
oh I see.. perhaps that would explain why it's not in today's map. ;D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on April 13, 2012, 02:23:49 AM
Concerning the BW2 Unova map...

It's not a layer of frozenness. Look at the image (here (http://images.serebii.net/corocoro4122big.jpg)). See Skyarrow Bridge? Or how the layer of "ice" doesn't even remotely follow the contours of the terrain?

A theory posted on Smogon proposed that it might be the picture that is frozen over, to cover revamped areas, and that more of it will thaw away the closer we get to release. In other words, the map will be posted again in the future, this time with ice covering a little less, revealing a new area or something.

I also like the idea of starting in the southwest corner of the map.

Oh, and throwing this in here:
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.bulbagarden.net%2Fmedia%2Fupload%2Fe%2Fe4%2FBattle_Subway_Map.png&hash=e7a1fb08c6a5e02f7956d1e5af0ad288c5aa91f4)
Actual subway, anyone? The lines appear to go somewhere. Might be more stations that we can go to as the story progresses? And that the last line will go to a Battle Frontier, having taken over the purpose of the Battle Subway in B/W?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Clanker37 on April 13, 2012, 07:54:59 AM
Quote from: Cobraroll on April 13, 2012, 02:23:49 AMConcerning the BW2 Unova map...

It's not a layer of frozenness. Look at the image (here (http://images.serebii.net/corocoro4122big.jpg)). See Skyarrow Bridge? Or how the layer of "ice" doesn't even remotely follow the contours of the terrain?

A theory posted on Smogon proposed that it might be the picture that is frozen over, to cover revamped areas, and that more of it will thaw away the closer we get to release. In other words, the map will be posted again in the future, this time with ice covering a little less, revealing a new area or something.

I also like the idea of starting in the southwest corner of the map.

Oh, and throwing this in here:
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.bulbagarden.net%2Fmedia%2Fupload%2Fe%2Fe4%2FBattle_Subway_Map.png&hash=e7a1fb08c6a5e02f7956d1e5af0ad288c5aa91f4)
Actual subway, anyone? The lines appear to go somewhere. Might be more stations that we can go to as the story progresses? And that the last line will go to a Battle Frontier, having taken over the purpose of the Battle Subway in B/W?
Yeah! That map in the background seems to have a town south of Driftveil! But how was that not in BW? Is Game Freak gonna be like, "Lol guys here's a town that's never beeen discovered before! It just happened to be there all this time! With out anyone noticing! How mysterious!"

OR THE COULD BE LIEK: "OMG GUYS THE COLD STORAGE TOTALLY HID THIS TOWN FROM US WITH ALL ITS ICE! WE DIDN'T NOW IT WAS THERE AT ALL AND WE ARE SHOCKED TO DISCOVER IT!" *End caps excitement.

Anyway, is it just me, or does the BW 2 girl have Princess Laya's hair?  :o
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on April 13, 2012, 09:48:20 AM
It's two years LATER. A town could have been founded since then.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on April 13, 2012, 10:38:28 AM
I just think the picture is frozen over. I dont think that the region is fully frozen over... especially since the north would have the propensity to be frozen over (as Driftveil City gets flurries and Iccirus City gets all that snow, but Nacrene City isn't affected)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on April 13, 2012, 11:30:51 AM
I really hope the Battle Subway expanded into a huge underground battle frontier thing. Man, that'd be cool.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on April 13, 2012, 09:44:04 PM
Trailer:
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on April 13, 2012, 11:27:43 PM
dat trailer man

So much stuff... trainers are animated, the new areas are gorgeous, older pokemon, the rival, the bad team, soooo much...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Sir Dino on April 16, 2012, 11:43:47 AM
..This is one the reasons we should learn Japanese (forgive me if some already know Japanese).
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Olimar12345 on April 16, 2012, 11:46:07 AM
That is not a bump. The last post here was two days ago...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Alakazam on April 17, 2012, 06:10:16 PM
I may love Pokemon, but this one is not going to be one of the one's that I buy the day it comes out. I'm going to need to wait for the reviews. And it needs to be a lot different from Black and White 1.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: fingerz on April 17, 2012, 11:34:22 PM
I'd like a new soundtrack!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on April 18, 2012, 03:13:47 AM
I know the rival music is different, and with new towns/cities = new music!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on April 18, 2012, 05:04:25 AM
Quote from: fingerz on April 17, 2012, 11:34:22 PMI'd like a new soundtrack!

^THIS. And remix the older themes! (Even though they were damn near perfect already...)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DonValentino on April 18, 2012, 09:37:18 AM
I just hope they don't make it a lot similar to BW1, like Platinum with DP. The only new things Platinum had were Origin form Giratina, Looker, the useless Charon and not much more.  :-\
But anyways, I'll buy it as soon as I can. From what I've seen, looks like a 'new' Pokemon game instead of a BW copy :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on April 18, 2012, 11:52:53 AM
Guys, it's 2 years later with new gyms and towns. It's not a third game expy. Seriously, this is going to be FANTASTIC. :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on April 18, 2012, 01:43:19 PM
Quote from: WarioMan98 on April 18, 2012, 09:37:18 AMhe only new things Platinum had were Origin form Giratina, Looker, the useless Charon and not much more.  :-\

 - 5 new Rotom
 - Sky Forme Shaymin
 - BATTLE FRONTIER
 - Move tutors (the reason why Scizor kicks so much ass is the addition of Bullet Punch and Superpower)
 - Gym leader rebattles
 - And some minor changes.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on April 18, 2012, 02:02:28 PM
As far as the actual game goes, not really anything was changed.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on April 18, 2012, 08:17:14 PM
Where you find these things hm? Sources or gtfo!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on April 19, 2012, 03:13:36 AM
It's on ANY credible pokemon news site. Serebii, pokebeach, Bulbapedia....
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on April 19, 2012, 07:35:56 AM
Aw. That's disappointing.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DonValentino on April 19, 2012, 10:20:45 AM
Quote from: Cobraroll on April 18, 2012, 01:43:19 PM- 5 new Rotom
 - Sky Forme Shaymin

Well, those could have been Mystery Gifts...

Quote from: Cobraroll on April 18, 2012, 01:43:19 PM- BATTLE FRONTIER
 - Move tutors (the reason why Scizor kicks so much ass is the addition of Bullet Punch and Superpower)
 - Gym leader rebattles
...

Touché, monsieur!  :P
Ok, maybe it had more things than I thought, but still I want more for BW2, even if this
Quote from: SlowPokemon on April 18, 2012, 02:02:28 PMAs far as the actual game goes, not really anything was changed.
is quite dissapointing.  :(
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on April 19, 2012, 02:15:03 PM
Quote from: WarioMan98 on April 19, 2012, 10:20:45 AMWell, those could have been Mystery Gifts...

Touché, monsieur!  :P
Ok, maybe it had more things than I thought, but still I want more for BW2, even if thisis quite dissapointing.  :(

When I said that I was referring to platinum, just so y'all know...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on April 19, 2012, 02:15:52 PM
OH DERP

I was really confused for a second...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on April 19, 2012, 04:43:52 PM
Same. I was wondering how you already knew all this stuff
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on May 11, 2012, 02:54:07 PM
(Unconfirmed)Kami Trio to receive new formes, captured in AR Searcher
(Unconfirmed)"The original leaker of the magazine(CoroCoro) states that the magazine showcases Cheren, Bianca, Brock and Giovanni"
(Unconfirmed)Pokewood Replaces musical, is the movie theatre seen in trailer.
(Unconfirmed)Cheren said to be a gym leader.

http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Kami_Trio_receiving_new_formes_in_upcoming_games
http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on May 12, 2012, 06:05:46 AM
Aargh wanna make a new topic for this games' news updates?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on May 12, 2012, 07:34:40 AM
I SAW STEVEN STONE IN THOSE CORO CORO SCANS

EVERYTHING IS OKAY IN THE WORLD.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on May 12, 2012, 11:25:29 AM
GO HERE! (http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=4424.0)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Dude on May 13, 2012, 01:41:35 PM
Quote from: DrP on May 12, 2012, 11:25:29 AMurp=http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=4424.0]GO HERE![/url]
urp? v_v
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Winter on May 13, 2012, 02:50:18 PM
Fixed it
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on May 15, 2012, 08:51:47 PM
Does anyone have a Plume Fossil (or Archen I suppose) for trade?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on May 16, 2012, 11:33:23 AM
If you can wait till Friday night.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Sir Dino on May 16, 2012, 11:35:20 AM
question: is there a way to trade gb/c and gba pokemon through wifi?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on May 16, 2012, 11:52:08 AM
No
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Dude on May 16, 2012, 12:13:49 PM
Quote from: Maestro Aamir on May 16, 2012, 11:35:20 AMquestion: is there a way to trade gb/c and gba pokemon through wifi?
GBA, kinda yes. GB, no.

You'll have to import your gba pokemon to one of the DS Pokemon games and then trade.

...Meaning you need either a DS Phat or DS Lite, since none of the newer DS's have GBA slots.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Sir Dino on May 16, 2012, 12:37:25 PM
thanks.  :'( oh well!   ;D

you know what I really want then... ruby/saphire remakes. then I can trade with my pokemon again. hoenn was my favorite region. :(
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on May 16, 2012, 08:07:26 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on May 16, 2012, 11:33:23 AMIf you can wait till Friday night.

I got one. Thank you though.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on May 18, 2012, 12:07:00 PM
Just wanted to ask this to everyone:

Does anyone have any shiny Pokemon? I only have a yellowish Kricketune that I caught in Diamond and Pearl. :/
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on May 18, 2012, 12:20:36 PM
Quote from: blueflower999 on May 18, 2012, 12:07:00 PMJust wanted to ask this to everyone:

Does anyone have any shiny Pokemon? I only have a yellowish Kricketune that I caught in Diamond and Pearl. :/
I caught a shiny Magikarp in Pokemon Emerald while hunting for Feebas.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: the_last_sheikah on May 18, 2012, 01:22:51 PM
Not counting red gyrados form soul siver/crystal, I've only encountered 2.  The one I caught was a shiny Spinda in Emerald.  The other, in another play through of Emerald(god I love that game), was a shiny Poocheyena, but i found it BEFORE I HAD ANY POKEBALLS!!!!! RAGE!!!!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on May 18, 2012, 02:41:46 PM
I have a good handful of shinies, but to me, my most precious is my Giratina with I soft resetted to get.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on May 18, 2012, 04:22:58 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on May 18, 2012, 02:41:46 PMI have a good handful of shinies, but to me, my most precious is my Giratina with I soft resetted to get.
How many tries did it take?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on May 18, 2012, 04:37:17 PM
I never counted. Probably good I didn't - would've gone nuts.

Funktastic here is pro at RNGing, so she gets a lot of shinies for me. I still need to learn to do it myself, though.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on May 18, 2012, 05:28:11 PM
Hmm, on my own I've collected a shiny Tangela in the Great Swamp, a shiny Smeargle outside the Mansion, and a shiny Giratina in the Distortion World. The other shinies (electivire, ninetales, charizard, jirachi, manaphy, arceus, spiritomb, cyndaquil, oddish, totodile, scizor, chimchar, etc.) were traded to me.

And sheikah I had the same deal with Jigglypuff. No pokeballs. Had to just stare at it and sob :'(
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on May 18, 2012, 05:32:01 PM
Quote from: the_last_sheikah on May 18, 2012, 01:22:51 PMNot counting red gyrados form soul siver/crystal, I've only encountered 2.  The one I caught was a shiny Spinda in Emerald.  The other, in another play through of Emerald(god I love that game), was a shiny Poocheyena, but i found it BEFORE I HAD ANY POKEBALLS!!!!! RAGE!!!!

...interested in trading the spinda? That's my favorite Pokemon.

Also I have a green Teddiursa. I remember my brother found a gold Pidgey in HG before he got PokeBalls XD poor bro.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Sir Dino on May 18, 2012, 05:50:13 PM
...

maybe I should start playing pokemon again....
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on May 18, 2012, 06:24:39 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on May 18, 2012, 04:37:17 PMI never counted. Probably good I didn't - would've gone nuts.

Funktastic here is pro at RNGing, so she gets a lot of shinies for me. I still need to learn to do it myself, though.

Do it. It's really easy.

Also I have boxes full of shiny 'mons, if you guys want some just tell me.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on May 18, 2012, 06:35:48 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on May 18, 2012, 06:24:39 PMif you guys want some just tell me.

O_O
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on May 18, 2012, 06:52:33 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on May 18, 2012, 06:24:39 PMDo it. It's really easy.

Also I have boxes full of shiny 'mons, if you guys want some just tell me.
Did you use the action replay?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Zunawe on May 18, 2012, 06:56:21 PM
I, ahem, spent my entire life one summer and beyond getting a certain shiny in SoulSilver. It happens to be a shiny Lugia. I swear I could go through that dungeon part with my eyes closed. It took such. a. long. time. I love it though. Everybody accuses me of cheating though.

Did you know that there is about a 1 in 8000 chance of getting a shiny Pokemon? That means that you would (mathematically/theoretically) have to battle a certain Pokemon over 8000 times to get it in shiny. . . I'm so glad I wasn't counting tries.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Sir Dino on May 18, 2012, 07:07:28 PM
Quote from: Zunawe on May 18, 2012, 06:56:21 PMDid you know that there is about a 1 in 8000 chance of getting a shiny Pokemon? That means that you would (mathematically/theoretically) have to battle a certain Pokemon over 8000 times to get it in shiny. . . I'm so glad I wasn't counting tries.
Uh, yeah of course we know that.... but congrats on your shiny
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: fingerz on May 18, 2012, 07:10:49 PM
Quote from: blueflower999 on May 18, 2012, 12:07:00 PMJust wanted to ask this to everyone:

Does anyone have any shiny Pokemon? I only have a yellowish Kricketune that I caught in Diamond and Pearl. :/
LeafGreen: Caught 2 shiny Fearows in the same area at different times, caught a shiny Exeggcute in the Safari Zone, accidentally killed a shiny Spearow!!
Emerald: Found a shiny Wurmple when I couldn't get Pokeballs yet... XD
Black: Caught a shiny Deino!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Sir Dino on May 18, 2012, 07:12:30 PM
If someone caught a shiny cubone and traded it to me I would me in their utmost thanks.... :3
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on May 18, 2012, 07:27:05 PM
Quote from: spitllama on May 18, 2012, 06:35:48 PMO_O

That's what she said :3

Quote from: blueflower999 on May 18, 2012, 06:52:33 PMDid you use the action replay?

No. My shiny Pokémon are not hacked, they're legit.

Quote from: Maestro Aamir on May 18, 2012, 07:12:30 PMIf someone caught a shiny cubone and traded it to me I would me in their utmost thanks.... :3

Pretty sure I have one.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Sir Dino on May 18, 2012, 07:31:36 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on May 18, 2012, 07:27:05 PMThat's what she said :3

No. My shiny Pokémon are not hacked, they're legit.

Pretty sure I have one.

Would you like to trade? :3
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on May 18, 2012, 07:59:25 PM
^Yeah sure, no problem. If it's okay with you I'd like to trade tomorrow, I'm pretty tired and I'm going to bed.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Sir Dino on May 18, 2012, 08:17:47 PM
Yup! I need to find my heartgold anyways.. :)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on May 19, 2012, 12:24:31 AM
I remember getting my first shiny in LeafGreen, a Pidgeotto. Months later, I finally found another shiny... a Pidgey.

In Pearl, I've got a Kricketune, and I found a Lotad in Emerald.

In my opinion, the more shiny Pokémon you have, the less special they are. That's why I've never actively hunted for them.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on May 19, 2012, 07:10:34 AM
I've never considered shiny 'mons as special. To me it's just a palette swap.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Raymondbl on May 19, 2012, 10:29:14 AM
Doesn't matter how much pokemon I play, have never seen a shiny.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FluteNinja on May 19, 2012, 10:33:47 AM
The one shiny Pokemon that I have (shiny Golem) was because I used to not have a life and just spend time on the GTS and try to trade people for shiny Pokemon.  I got sooo close to trading this guy my Charizard for his shiny Spiritomb.  I was soo pissed off. 

And my best friends caught 3 shiny Pokemon IN A ROW!!!  (Spheal, Doduo, and Geodude I think) They did not use a gameshark1
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on May 19, 2012, 10:35:09 AM
I got a shiny Empoleon on the GTS once. I considered that pretty lucky.

I myself like shinies, but that's just me.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Dude on May 19, 2012, 01:29:11 PM
Quote from: Raymondbl on May 19, 2012, 10:29:14 AMDoesn't matter how much pokemon I play, have never seen a shiny.
Same. :<
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on May 19, 2012, 02:25:06 PM
Shinies on the GTS usually are hacked. Just saying.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on May 19, 2012, 02:26:25 PM
Eh, dang. It's just gonna rot in the PC, anyway.

Is it me, or do I always have trouble in Emerald against Tate + Liza and their hellish Claydol?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Sir Dino on May 19, 2012, 02:57:49 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on May 19, 2012, 02:26:25 PMIs it me, or do I always have trouble in Emerald against Tate + Liza and their hellish Claydol?
..might be just you, no offense.(please don't bother me if I spelled that wrong, too tired). Try using a water pokemon, level 40 or something

When are going to trade Roz? :3
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on May 19, 2012, 03:13:51 PM
That Claydol seems to murder my team with Earthquake. It's really annoying. >_> Then again, I'm underleveled by a bit...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on May 19, 2012, 04:30:59 PM
YOU AREN'T ALONE NEBBLES. SCREW TATE & LIZA!!!!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on May 19, 2012, 04:31:38 PM
YAY
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on May 19, 2012, 08:12:18 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on May 19, 2012, 02:26:25 PMEh, dang. It's just gonna rot in the PC, anyway.

Is it me, or do I always have trouble in Emerald against Tate + Liza and their hellish Claydol?

Forget the Claydol, their freaking Xatu ALWAYS is the most annoying for me.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on May 19, 2012, 08:13:36 PM
That too. Once I get past Claydol, at least, it's not that bad. but their claydol... just ugh...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FluteNinja on May 19, 2012, 08:26:49 PM
The first time that i fought Tate and Liza (Emerald was the first Pokemon game that I got) I had only trained my Blaziken (who was a level 100 juggernaut) and I used Dynamic Punch on all of their Pokmemon and won.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on May 19, 2012, 08:38:37 PM
Quote from: FluteNinja on May 19, 2012, 08:26:49 PMThe first time that i fought Tate and Liza (Emerald was the first Pokemon game that I got) I had only trained my Blaziken (who was a level 100 juggernaut) and I used Dynamic Punch on all of their Pokmemon and won.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmwqnqL3Hbg
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on June 25, 2012, 04:40:58 AM
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi49.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff278%2Fkatietiedrich%2Fcomic255.png&hash=620d3300d439cdd15f4b29e7ad13d7eaf2e79041)
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on August 14, 2012, 02:00:35 PM
Finished my stunfisk-only run. Overall it was easy because BW gives you a lot of trainers to battle for exp and a lot of monies if you equip an amulet coin. I think I ended up with like 200,000+ pokemonies. As for using stunfisk, being weak to grass, water, ice, and ground really really really sucks. Not being to hit grass types until you get bounce(lulz) or sludge bomb makes the early game suck. I have video of the final battle with dennis recorded but it needs a bit of editing.

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi113.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn208%2Fshadoninja%2FD659E029-E79E-4511-A598-C0577FCF1BC0-1502-00000087A95952C4.jpg&hash=25e5cc972c4499d23082b76d872a6c91d6cbea1e)
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi113.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn208%2Fshadoninja%2F9DA21BD0-0D01-4888-A85F-8A513CF21B65-1502-00000087C91469DB.jpg&hash=f4e068d686f0a310256bdf1ce3e42f5d378a15a4)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Zunawe on August 14, 2012, 02:43:11 PM
Quote from: Shadoninja on August 14, 2012, 02:00:35 PMFinished my stunfisk-only run. Overall it was easy because BW gives you a lot of trainers to battle for exp and a lot of monies if you equip an amulet coin. I think I ended up with like 200,000+ pokemonies. As for using stunfisk, being weak to grass, water, ice, and ground really really really sucks. Not being to hit grass types until you get bounce(lulz) or sludge bomb makes the early game suck. I have video of the final battle with dennis recorded but it needs a bit of editing.

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdb.tt%2FNWVyp1lH&hash=97f8b0069cb631aca8b51a5df4e666436f90f81c)
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdb.tt%2FHz2YzMmz&hash=03e0fb3da941c08ac0f7885e10a555c9530d824d)

Pics don't show. Might be because you put IMG instead of img, but idk.

I love the amulet coin. I always put one on my main pokemon if it's overleveled for the area.
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on August 14, 2012, 03:19:29 PM
Quote from: Zunawe on August 14, 2012, 02:43:11 PMPics don't show. Might be because you put IMG instead of img, but idk.

I love the amulet coin. I always put one on my main pokemon if it's overleveled for the area.

Fixed.

I don't use it often since I usually switch around pokemon so much.

I really want to do another single pokemon run. Maybe this time in the diamond pearl or platinum games. Any suggestions for Pokemon? I'll do any of them
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 14, 2012, 03:52:36 PM
Lol dennis
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Zunawe on August 14, 2012, 03:52:58 PM
. . . Magikarp.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 14, 2012, 03:56:07 PM
I plan on doing a solo run some other time... definitely open to suggestions as well. :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Zunawe on August 14, 2012, 04:00:54 PM
If you're looking for something good to use, steel is awesome. I don't use them to attack much, but I use Skarmony as a tank to heal and revive my other pokemon.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on August 14, 2012, 05:12:25 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on August 14, 2012, 03:56:07 PMI plan on doing a solo run some other time... definitely open to suggestions as well. :D

DRIFLOOOOOOON
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 14, 2012, 05:20:40 PM
It IS planned for Soul Silver, so there's the trading it over issue. So if Drifloon gets too strong and doesn't listen, it's not gonna be easy...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on August 14, 2012, 05:34:53 PM
Action Replay
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 14, 2012, 05:35:17 PM
:I But that's cheating... though I could, idk.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on August 14, 2012, 05:40:48 PM
You can just use the wild pokemon modifier and catch one asap, then never use it again :0
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 14, 2012, 05:58:23 PM
guys ahaha what if I did a Dunsparce one
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 14, 2012, 06:09:08 PM
Dunsparce is NOT a bad Pokemon. I don't know why everyone thinks that; it's a beast in competition and pretty much the most annoying Pokemon in the game--it can paralyze ground types with Glare, get an extra chance for flinch and the like with Serene Grace, the list goes on and on.

Shado once beat the shit out of me with a team of six Dunsparce @_@' The memories...the horrible memories....
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 14, 2012, 06:10:40 PM
omg that's great

I dunno, Heracross is a good option too... hmm...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 14, 2012, 06:11:41 PM
Ah yeah, Heracross is really good, just make sure you're faster than flying types >_<
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 14, 2012, 06:12:39 PM
Yeah, that's the only issue... it'd take some time to get one with a good nature, but hey, it'd be worth it.

If I did a Dunsparce only run I'd want to record that XD
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 14, 2012, 06:13:20 PM
^choice scarf + stone edge, though I guess it's not a good idea for a solo run like that.

Also yes, Dunsparce is good, but Togekiss is better.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 14, 2012, 06:14:08 PM
lol it would probably be REALLY difficult because of rock types and the like but it would be so rewarding XD

Quote from: Roz~ on August 14, 2012, 06:13:20 PMAlso yes, Dunsparce is good, but Togekiss is better.

Much better, but Dunsparce is something you'd never expect @_@
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 14, 2012, 06:15:11 PM
Yes, and beating Red with a Dunsparce is honestly something I'd love to be able to accomplish. xD
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on August 15, 2012, 02:22:15 PM
Luvdisc.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 15, 2012, 02:24:31 PM
Farfetch'd, Spinda, Skitty, all of those would be really difficult
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on August 15, 2012, 02:42:44 PM
So I had a thought- so yeah, they're making sequels to Black and White, but what if they are they replacement of the remakes,so instead of having one third version, they'd have two!

Also on that note, instead of remaking ruby and sapphire, they could just remake Emerald instead! That way they kind of switch in a way.

They normally remake two games of the original series, and have a singular third version, but what if this time they have two third versions and only one remake of a third version of an earlier Gen!? I think it's plausible.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 15, 2012, 03:06:07 PM
^They ARE taking the place of "remakes" which is good as BW are the best they can be, in my opinion.

And while it's a good suggestion, they'll never do it because with remaking Ruby AND Sapphire, they'll make a LOT more money than they would simply remaking Emerald. Say what you will, Game Freak does exist to make money.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on August 15, 2012, 03:19:09 PM
Dunsparce (http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-dp/206.shtml) has a very good level up moves and a wide TM movepool. It gets yawn and roost too which is badass.
Drifloon's (http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-dp/425.shtml) okay. It'll have problems with normals, especially normals with a high defense since the only level up moves that can hit normal, minus explosion which is stupid for a solo-run, will be running off of it's slightly lower attack stat.
Luvdisc (http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-dp/370.shtml) has a pretty barren movepool that doesn't have much in the way of coverage making it a perfect contender for a let's play-style run.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 15, 2012, 03:27:32 PM
I'm leaning towards Dunsparce, anyway, so I think it'll be a fun solo run.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on August 15, 2012, 03:52:38 PM
I think i'll do a spinda run.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 15, 2012, 03:55:24 PM
Sweet.

I'm now mulling over what starter to pick, thinking about the easiest one Dunsparce can fare against...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 15, 2012, 04:04:40 PM
Quote from: Shadoninja on August 15, 2012, 03:52:38 PMI think i'll do a spinda run.

YES! Which game? I wouldn't recommend Ruby or Sapphire...spinda is base 60 in every stat, making it nigh impossible to beat steven
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on August 15, 2012, 04:07:25 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on August 15, 2012, 03:55:24 PMSweet.

I'm now mulling over what starter to pick, thinking about the easiest one Dunsparce can fare against...
Fire-types would probably be easiest as it gets rollout early and ancientpower and dig later. It also learns water pulse by TM which is pretty cool.
Grass would be second easiest because of ice beam/blizzard and flamethrower/fire blast. I don't know how easy it is to get those TMs in the game you're playing in.

Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 15, 2012, 04:04:40 PMYES! Which game? I wouldn't recommend Ruby or Sapphire...spinda is base 60 in every stat, making it nigh impossible to beat steven
Diamond, Pearl, or Platinum.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 15, 2012, 04:24:03 PM
I think in SS it's not too bad. So all right, I'll let the rival get Cyndaquil.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 15, 2012, 04:26:24 PM
Ah, and you could even catch one at the beginning instead of trading
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on August 15, 2012, 04:51:49 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on August 15, 2012, 04:24:03 PMI think in SS it's not too bad. So all right, I'll let the rival get Cyndaquil.
Nice. In BW I chose Tepig. Thus my rivals had oshawott and snivy, both of which stunfisk could not handle easily.

Stunfisk Solo Run Choice of starter:
Tepig = Hard Mode
Snivy = Normal Mode
Oshawott = Normal Mode
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Dude on August 16, 2012, 11:53:30 AM
I wanna do a Gen 1 solo run now.

Who'sitgunnabe?

Edit: not magikarp.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on August 16, 2012, 12:03:43 PM
Can't decide to do solo run in Diamond with Smeargle, Ditto (even possible?), Castform, Spiritomb, Nincada (does this mean I get to have Shedinja and Ninjask? :D), or Riolu.

Bleh why do I like all the sucky Pokemon?

Also in solo runs can you evolve or is that frowned upon?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on August 16, 2012, 12:25:55 PM
I think Spiritomb. Eric and I have a special Spiritomb that you could use. You'll be invincible. ;)

It's shiny, and has "wonderguard" as the ability, making any attack that isn't super-effective against it uneffective. Which means you can't be touched. Except for some exceptions...

I had to beat his "Wondertomb" in order to be able to have it (I cloned it, so I gave it back), and so I used a six-man team against it. Unfortunately, he had just the one Spiritomb, so I pulled out a lv.100 Arceus with Perish Song. Hit the Spiritomb, and I just switched out every now and then until it was dead. Eric had to honor our agreement, so now I have an invincible Spiritomb. I think it'd be great to see a solo run with an invincible Spiritomb.

EDIT:...Shit, I just realized that it's at lv. 100. Damn it.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Dude on August 16, 2012, 12:28:20 PM
I'm kinda thinking Oddish... Yeah I'll do that.

Probably pkmn yellow so yay.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on August 16, 2012, 12:30:24 PM
Fire-fang, weather, perish song, mold breaker, reversal, stealth rock, spikes, worry seed, gastro acid, and status conditions = dead Wondertomb.

Nevertheless that has to be so much fun to play with :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 16, 2012, 01:32:05 PM
I think in solo runs, you generally don't evolve them. That's the purpose and adds to the challenge.

I saw a Hoppip only run once. When you see a Hoppip take down Red, you're just like daaaaaamn
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on August 16, 2012, 02:01:25 PM
I would say evolving is okay
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 16, 2012, 02:07:40 PM
I guess it depends on the person... I dunno, to me, evolving them would make things easier since they get stronger and potentially better movepools. But that's just me.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 16, 2012, 02:13:12 PM
I think evolving is fine, personally.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Dude on August 16, 2012, 03:37:08 PM
Quote from: Dude on August 16, 2012, 12:28:20 PMI'm kinda thinking Oddish... Yeah I'll do that.

Probably pkmn yellow so yay.
I'm dying a lot. D:
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on August 16, 2012, 03:41:47 PM
Quote from: Dude on August 16, 2012, 03:37:08 PMI'm dying a lot. D:
That's to be expected. How far are you?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Dude on August 16, 2012, 04:10:22 PM
got past brock and am now at mount moon.

wee.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on August 17, 2012, 07:49:00 AM
I'm gonna do a Bidoof run! :D

It's gonna be simple, I tell you... ;)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 17, 2012, 08:19:31 AM
I'm Unaware of how Simple it might be
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on August 17, 2012, 09:44:24 AM
Chaw-haw-haw
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on August 17, 2012, 11:23:19 AM
Quote from: spitllama on August 17, 2012, 09:44:24 AMChaw-haw-haw
I see wat u did there, and raise you with a whoa-ho-ho.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 17, 2012, 11:29:02 AM
Aw man, now I wanna play PMD again XD I should do that later...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on August 17, 2012, 11:34:42 AM
In a solo run, are you allowed to send out your hm slave to give you a turn to revive your fainted solo Pokemon or is that cheating?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 17, 2012, 11:35:49 AM
Nah, that's not cheating at all. XD
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on August 17, 2012, 11:39:44 AM
Are you sure? Its a solo run, so shouldn't other Pokemon be banned?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 17, 2012, 11:47:36 AM
Well, HM slaves are allowed in solo runs. You'd be a little screwed if you were using a pokemon that can't surf, and you NEED surf, so....

As long as you don't actually use them in battle, it's okay. They can be scapegoats while you heal your actual pokemon.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on August 17, 2012, 11:48:36 AM
Aaaaand that's why I'm gonna use Bidoof.
Just look at it:
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.bulbagarden.net%2Fupload%2Fthumb%2Ff%2Ff5%2F399Bidoof.png%2F200px-399Bidoof.png&hash=2c6529f1890e632ff5ce02201a4ae6954296d2e7)
IT'S FREAKING BOSS
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on August 17, 2012, 11:57:30 AM
I always thought Bidoof was kinda cute, despite it's derpiness. I also loved how the PMD game made him southern  ;D I my slo run right now, my Bidoof's name is "Golly Gee!"
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 17, 2012, 11:59:45 AM
I love PMD Bidoof so much omg

His special episode gave me all the feels
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on August 17, 2012, 12:01:13 PM
Lol, me too. Him and Sunflora totally made the game for me.  :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on August 17, 2012, 12:03:19 PM
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi631.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fuu35%2FPalindromemordnilap%2FPokemon%2520Comics%2Fcoolface.png&hash=b139f84a0f9a4d1de40d8db2f81644e4918cbaef)
Like a Bidoof
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on August 17, 2012, 12:03:41 PM
I love how his wish was to have someone to look up to him, or for him to mentor, something like that. But when it turned out to be you, you completely ignored him and saved the world instead
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bespinben on August 17, 2012, 12:09:37 PM
I have a theory. I believe Bidoof's Wish is how you became a Pokemon. Sure Darkrai attacked you mid-time travel, but that should've only wiped your memory, at worst (like Palkia did to Darkrai in the post-game). As such, I believe, along with Darkrai wiping your memory, Jirachi turned you into a Pokemon so that Bidoof could have a pal/mentor, since by no means could a human possibly be that, with the communication barrier and all.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on August 17, 2012, 12:17:18 PM
But darkrai wouldn't have wanted grovyle and you to stay together, and grovyle had no way of knowing who you were if you were a Pokemon. I think Bidoofs wish just either made you meet your partner or help you join the guild. Otherwise it makes Bidoof look like the bad guy
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on August 17, 2012, 12:28:48 PM
My theory is that Bidoof's wish made Primal Dialga. That's why the human had to come to the past to save the world.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 17, 2012, 12:34:32 PM
Well, Bidoof wished for a partner... and we know Darkrai messed up you and Grovyle's travel to the past, to prevent the world being saved. And at the present, time is already out of whack, so Primal Dialga is already there and getting worse. So Jirachi probably had something to do with the hero transforming into a pokemon, because there's a chance it knew about the world and what was going to happen.

So... probably, at the time when you were traveling and Darkrai got in the way, Jirachi probably saved your life by turning you into a pokemon. Because how would they react at a human? My guess is in the future, you were the only human left to survive the world's paralysis... because somehow, you were working with a Grovyle. So where are the other humans?

Man... I need an answer for that...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on August 17, 2012, 12:38:56 PM
Jirachi made Dialga to Primal Dialga and let things go by themselves.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 17, 2012, 12:40:38 PM
I don't think Jirachi would make an "Apocalypse Now" scenario to give Bidoof some friends...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on August 17, 2012, 12:42:22 PM
Yes, but Jirachi knew all along what's gonna happen.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 17, 2012, 01:01:42 PM
Is that canon? It's been a while since I've played it...

But if that's the case, Jirachi just probably had the human-to-pokemon part. If time was going out of whack, primal Dialga already would have been formed. I think the time issue was way before Bidoof's wish - just no one knew about it yet.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bespinben on August 17, 2012, 01:02:04 PM
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on August 17, 2012, 12:38:56 PMJirachi made Dialga to Primal Dialga and let things go by themselves.

Primal Dialga is a product of a collapsed Temporal Tower. Temporal Tower's collapse was caused over time by Darkrai. These two facts are canon.

To say that Jirachi made Dialga into Primal Dialga would be to say that Jirachi caused Darkrai to be evil in the first place to cause him to attack the Tower, which is not the case because one, I doubt Jirachi has the power to change a person's personality, and two, Darkrai had been evil long before Bidoof made the wish.

Quote from: FSM-Reapr on August 17, 2012, 12:42:22 PMYes, but Jirachi knew all along what's gonna happen.

...and Jirachi is a wish-granter, not a psychic. It's not Xatu.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on August 17, 2012, 01:14:12 PM
Quote from: Bespinben on August 17, 2012, 01:02:04 PMPrimal Dialga is a product of a collapsed Temporal Tower.

...and Jirachi is a wish-granter, not a psychic. It's not Xatu.
That I completely forgot.

C'mon, Jirachi can make wishes come true, and Jirachi can't see the future?! And Jirachi is Psychic type and can learn Future Sight. I rest my case.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 17, 2012, 01:19:07 PM
But what Bespinben makes sense.

Darkrai had a plan to destroy the world all along. He was the one who began the ruin of time, thus creating Primal Dialga, which was an issue even before Bidoof made the wish. When Bidoof wished for friends, you and Grovyle had their time travel ruined by Darkrai who knew they were going to change history. Thus, you turning into a pokemon completed the wish, you and your partner being Bidoof's friends.

Jirachi did not know about the destruction. It made your partner want to join the guild, and your partner found you and you both joined together.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on August 17, 2012, 01:24:37 PM
Yes it makes sense, but seriously, there is no right theory yet. *waiting for PMD3, stupid WiiWare doesn't count*
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 17, 2012, 01:26:41 PM
Yep... just gotta wait until we see more stuff, but I'm going with my headcanon for now.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on August 17, 2012, 03:51:50 PM
Is this Explorers of Sky stuff? Cause I'm straining to see how Jirachi sitting in Final Maze B23 instigates any of this :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 17, 2012, 03:56:10 PM
XD Yeah, it is. We got new side stories that let us have tons of more insight into the characters.

The last special episode made me tear up. ;_;
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on August 17, 2012, 06:06:59 PM
Even if it was a bajillion dungeons long


But yeah it was sweet
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Fleetstar The Flygon on August 17, 2012, 06:15:39 PM
I love the side adventures! The story of Wigglytuff's past was the one I loved the most, because the first dungeon has my favorite music from PMD blue/red, the bond between Armaldo and Wigglytuff, and the ending that nearly made me cry.
The PMD series is awesome because it's good at provoking much emotion..
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on August 17, 2012, 09:11:11 PM
Roark... fucking roark and his damn rock types. I'll admit, I used turtwig to get past him because I am not dealing with that and I'm not locking myself into using Rock Smash.

My thoughts on solo-spinda so far:

Spinda's not that bad. I ended up with an adamant (+Atk,-Sp.Atk) one with Own Tempo (Prevents confusion) that's "capable of taking hits" (lul). So far its Base 60 stats have not hampered me too much.
Thankfully, I got faint attack for ghost types and psybeam for fighting types.

How's everyone else's solo runs going?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 17, 2012, 09:12:42 PM
Haven't started mine yet... need to trade over my buggies to HG. Might do that Sunday.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on August 17, 2012, 09:42:53 PM
Your using spinda? Good luck at the veil stone city gym -.- I'm 20 levels ahead of the little minions in the beginning of the gym with my umbreon and they still kill me in two hits. I recently got psychic from the game corner so ima try that out now.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 17, 2012, 09:47:05 PM
Ugh, Veilstone Gym. Never any good memories from there...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on August 17, 2012, 09:50:24 PM
Back to one hit ko's with psychic   8)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 17, 2012, 10:26:04 PM
Niiiice!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on August 17, 2012, 10:54:50 PM
Hmm... Any reason why my rival has a lvl 25 starly? Shouldn't he have evolved it by now?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on August 17, 2012, 11:03:46 PM
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on August 17, 2012, 10:54:50 PMHmm... Any reason why my rival has a lvl 25 starly? Shouldn't he have evolved it by now?
For teh lulz.

Team Galactics Headquarters confuses me. The way you go up the building makes it seem like either there are rooms hidden from view on the left or it's a slanted building.

Also, Platinum has too many fucking roadblocks.
"you can ride down cycling road and end up in hearthome city"

How about you get out of my way and let me go where I fucking want.

"it seems you don't have an explorer's kit"

BECAUSE I DON'T WANT ONE.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on August 17, 2012, 11:17:20 PM
You mean the headquarters in eterna city? I think the stairs run along the back of the building, but I can't even remember that place now.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on August 19, 2012, 10:06:15 PM
There's a steel type gym. I think I'm going to cry.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on August 19, 2012, 10:27:40 PM
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on August 19, 2012, 10:06:15 PMThere's a steel type gym. I think I'm going to cry.

haha that'll be fun :P. Umbreon doesn't get anything that's super effective except Dig and Hidden Power.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on August 20, 2012, 04:55:30 AM
Simple Bibarel FTW. Seriously, epic sweeper.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 20, 2012, 05:47:48 AM
Moody pls
I guess it can work in-game, but Bibarel sucks because its stats are average and it's somewhat frail.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on August 20, 2012, 06:13:52 AM
He's Bold, if that's what you meant be moody, otherwise I didn't get that.
And when he learns Curse, it can dominate the shit out of everybody.
And Bibarel is just boss.

My Online Team's Bibarel:
Nature: Bold(not the best nature but works.
Item: Leftovers/Life Orb
Moveset:
Curse
Waterfall
Quick Attack
Strength

Once you've seen my beaver you've seen them all.
...
Wait what? :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 20, 2012, 06:29:41 AM
I didn't mean the nature, I meant the ability Moody. And I could wreck that Bibarel with Sacred Sword.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on August 20, 2012, 06:53:28 AM
Oh right, silly me. :P No, Simple all the way. Everybody could Sword Bibarel, but I would just switch out. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 20, 2012, 07:08:31 AM
Any good player would predict that switch, and you'd lose your boosts so yeah. It's a losing situation for you if it happens.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on August 20, 2012, 07:17:10 AM
Maybe, maybe not. When Bibarel comes back, it's Simple to get it's big boosts back. :P
But Bibarel is an epic sweeper. That nobody can deny.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 20, 2012, 07:45:40 AM
Uhm...I could deny that
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on August 20, 2012, 07:46:19 AM
NO U CAN'T >:(
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on August 20, 2012, 08:04:56 AM
Unaware quagsire. Bam
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 20, 2012, 08:15:39 AM
^literally any grass type move
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: the_last_sheikah on August 20, 2012, 08:23:28 AM
Electabuzz with ice punch.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 20, 2012, 08:33:54 AM
I said grass type MOVE :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 20, 2012, 09:24:12 AM
Bibarel might be able to sweep in PU/NU but there are better options.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on August 20, 2012, 09:31:30 AM
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on August 20, 2012, 06:13:52 AMHe's Bold, if that's what you meant be moody, otherwise I didn't get that.
And when he learns Curse, it can dominate the shit out of everybody.
And Bibarel is just boss.

My Online Team's Bibarel:
Nature: Bold(not the best nature but works.
Item: Leftovers/Life Orb
Moveset:
Curse
Waterfall
Quick Attack
Strength

Once you've seen my beaver you've seen them all.
...
Wait what? :P

Frillish/Jellicent says hi.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on August 20, 2012, 09:33:51 AM
lol you got me there bro
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 20, 2012, 10:22:10 AM
All righty, I'm gonna start my Dunsparce solo run today.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on August 20, 2012, 03:05:52 PM
In what game?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on August 20, 2012, 03:21:55 PM
I think she said HG or SS, one of the two.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 20, 2012, 03:53:11 PM
Soulsilver indeed! Here's my plans for it: Adamant Nature - Leftovers - - Serene Grace - EV Spread (due to Smogon's help...) 144 HP 252 Atk 36 Def 76 Spd

Moveset shall be Body Slam, Rock Slide, Zen Headbutt, Earthquake

I think that should work.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on August 20, 2012, 04:14:48 PM
Seems a good choice, for a dunsparce  :D But wouldnt it be hard to EV train a pokemon on a solo run?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 20, 2012, 04:23:30 PM
Mmm, a little, but there's the option of staying in one spot and just beating up Pokemon that give out those EVs. Which I can do with ease.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on August 20, 2012, 05:18:56 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on August 20, 2012, 03:53:11 PMSoulsilver indeed! Here's my plans for it: Adamant Nature - Leftovers - - Serene Grace - EV Spread (due to Smogon's help...) 144 HP 252 Atk 36 Def 76 Spd

Moveset shall be Body Slam, Rock Slide, Zen Headbutt, Earthquake

I think that should work.
Specific EV Training is a bit unnecessary for the main game.

It would seem that you'll have a bit of difficulty getting your ideal moveset.
The only way it learns Body Slam is by 3rd gen Move Tutor. Rock slide as an egg move or TM from the Pewter City Gym. Zen Headbutt from the Battle Frontier Move Tutors.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 20, 2012, 05:29:52 PM
...jesus shit
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on August 20, 2012, 05:34:18 PM
Yeah...sadly hes right. The only other moevs I can think of that wont completely suck are pursuit, take down, or ancient power from leveling up. Apparently Dunsparce can learn blizzard, flamethrower, and water pulse through tms, so you could try that if you're willing to find all of them
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 20, 2012, 05:38:11 PM
For now, I can use bite as a move until I can replace it... so Bite, headbutt... I could breed for Rock Slide, if I really wanted to.

But crap. I'll have to look at its level up moveset and use that until I can replace them..
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on August 20, 2012, 05:41:28 PM
http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-dp/206.shtml

Yeah. I could offer some suggestions for replacements.
If you want the paralysis from body slam, you could use glare or thunder wave. If you want a normal-type STAB Attack, try Return, Take Down, or Headbutt.

What's Rock Slide and Zen Headbutt for?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on August 20, 2012, 05:42:14 PM
Did you already start? I think Bite is an egg move, and if you restart the game youll need to trade the egg from another game
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 20, 2012, 05:43:06 PM
Flinching, I believe...

So Headbutt and Bite can work for that, I'll throw in Glare and think of another replacement move until I can get those ones.

And no, I haven't started.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on August 20, 2012, 05:44:30 PM
That serebii pokedex looks cluttered to me. I use this one
http://pokemon.marriland.com/hgss/pokedex/dunsparce/
Though I doubt theres much of a difference
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 20, 2012, 05:48:08 PM
Headbutt's an egg move too? Siiiigh...

Shado, what are your replacement ideas? =/
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on August 20, 2012, 06:02:40 PM
Hmm. have you considered using a speed lowering nature? that would allow you to use some special moves without a reduction in power. It has a really good special movepool.

I would strongly suggest you use Roost which it learns at level 33 or TM which you obtain early.

Quote from: Nebbles on August 20, 2012, 05:48:08 PMHeadbutt's an egg move too? Siiiigh...

Shado, what are your replacement ideas? =/
you can learn headbutt by move tutor at Ilex Forest.

How about:

Glare
Roost/Take Down/Return/Headbutt
Water Pulse/Thunder/Blizzard
Dig/Earthquake

You can also not use roost if for some reason you don't need the recovery.

Other Options:

Shock Wave
Charge Beam
Shadow Ball
Rock Tomb
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 20, 2012, 06:06:20 PM
Headbutt, Glare, Roost and Earthquake doesn't sound too terrible. But that's not a lot of coverage... I could replace Glare with Thunder, maybe...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on August 20, 2012, 06:15:32 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on August 20, 2012, 06:06:20 PMHeadbutt, Glare, Roost and Earthquake doesn't sound too terrible. But that's not a lot of coverage... I could replace Glare with Thunder, maybe...
Updated the set.
Normal/Ground/Water gives you good coverage that's only resisted by Giratina and Shedinja.
Normal/Ground/Electric resisted by those two and Rotom
Normal/Ground/Ghost resisted by Skarmory.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 20, 2012, 06:22:50 PM
Normal/Ground/Water sounds best to me... because in all reality when do I face a Giratina in SS? Or Shedinja? I should be fine with that set...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on August 20, 2012, 06:23:17 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on August 20, 2012, 06:22:50 PMNormal/Ground/Water sounds best to me... because in all reality when do I face a Giratina in SS? Or Shedinja? I should be fine with that set...
mkay. good luck :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 20, 2012, 06:24:19 PM
And as you said, a speed reducing nature? Any certain ones you recommend?

And thanks a ton for the help C:
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on August 20, 2012, 06:29:54 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on August 20, 2012, 06:24:19 PMAnd as you said, a speed reducing nature? Any certain ones you recommend?

And thanks a ton for the help C:
Either of them would be good. I would choose one of the attack-based ones though which are brave (+atk) or quiet (+sp. atk)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 20, 2012, 06:31:10 PM
A Brave little Dunsparce... I like the idea.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on August 20, 2012, 09:13:23 PM
Or cheatz
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 21, 2012, 08:56:20 PM
Got my Brave/Serene Grace moveset!! :D And I beat Falkner so far.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on August 21, 2012, 09:07:01 PM
Great! I looked up Falkner because I forgot what he looked like, and I didnt recognize anything from the screenshots of the game. I dont remember any of the gym leaders, but Im positive Ive played it completely because I remember the Pokeathlon and getting other generation pokemon after beating the game. But Im pretty sure I wouldve remembered Blue (who I see as Gary) as a gym leader. It kinda scaring me, since the game came out only a few years ago

On another note, I easily beat Canalave city's gym using Dig
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 21, 2012, 10:08:57 PM
Beat Bugsy as well. With Rollout. Dang, Dunsparce is a beast...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Clanker37 on August 22, 2012, 04:55:39 AM
Just wait until you verse Chuck and Jasmine :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 22, 2012, 11:38:52 AM
Dunsparce has dig, and Chuck's only fighting move is focus punch so I'll just headbutt spam.

Also, I knocked out Whitney's Miltank in one hit with my own Rollout. Revenge has never tasted so sweet.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 22, 2012, 12:20:36 PM
Whitney's a pushover, idk why everyone complains about her. I find Bugsy's Scyther more annoying, it doesn't take much strategy for Whitney.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 22, 2012, 12:22:56 PM
Clair's Kingdra is worse for me. I'm better at dealing with Whitney now, anyway.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 24, 2012, 01:43:56 PM
Yeah I guess Whitney's hard to beat if you don't know what you're doing at all. And I agree, I think Clair is more annoying than Whitney.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 24, 2012, 05:37:29 PM
On way to Cianwood, Parfait is continuing to sweep throughout Johto. Haven't really lost a battle yet, proud to say that! I've been training her well.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on August 26, 2012, 06:24:49 PM
My Umbreon just beat the 7th gym, and moving onto the eighth. Though I feel kinda guilty for skipping every trainer on the way to Snowpoint city, so I might go back and beat them, even though Im 25 levels above them. Its surprisingly easy to level up when you literally give every experience point to only one pokemon
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 26, 2012, 06:26:57 PM
Yeah, Dunsparce is around level 40 and I'm about to infiltrate the Team Rocket Mahogany hide out. XD It's funny, seeing everyone being tanked by a Dunspace of all things.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on August 26, 2012, 06:29:40 PM
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on August 26, 2012, 06:24:49 PMMy Umbreon just beat the 7th gym, and moving onto the eighth. Though I feel kinda guilty for skipping every trainer on the way to Snowpoint city, so I might go back and beat them, even though Im 25 levels above them. Its surprisingly easy to level up when you literally give every experience point to only one pokemon
'tis true. Solo runs seem to be difficult only in the early-game. What limitations could be applied to make them more difficult?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on August 26, 2012, 06:31:13 PM
Possibly no healing items? But that would pretty much screw you against someone your weak against or a party of 6. Idk, because thats really the only easy part so far. Im dreading the Elite four, even though the only type disadvantage for me isnt that bad
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on August 26, 2012, 06:33:27 PM
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on August 26, 2012, 06:31:13 PMPossibly no healing items? But that would pretty much screw you against someone your weak against or a party of 6. Idk, because thats really the only easy part so far. Im dreading the Elite four, even though the only type disadvantage for me isnt that bad
Limiting the number of healing items used per battle? Possibly based on it's potency.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on August 26, 2012, 06:34:04 PM
Either no healing items during battle or outside of battle, but not both. Or amaybe just status healers, but I dont really use those anyway
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 26, 2012, 06:35:28 PM
Solo runs aren't too hard after a while, which ruins the point of it being a challenge. Once you get insanely over leveled, you just sweep everywhere.

And for nuzlockes, I have a "5 item limit", which means that I can get 5 of one type of potion and like, full heals or something. In reality, later on in the game, that can screw you over...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on September 03, 2012, 06:39:10 PM
Double posting, but...

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_m9sxt3QM9f1qd6hv3o1_400.jpg&hash=75befb881cabd7417b6e87673f48a010f93d2251) Guess who became a champion today.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on September 03, 2012, 07:15:43 PM
Congrats, Nebu!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 07, 2012, 05:58:48 AM
Quote from: Nebbles on August 26, 2012, 06:35:28 PMSolo runs aren't too hard after a while, which ruins the point of it being a challenge. Once you get insanely over leveled, you just sweep everywhere.

And for nuzlockes, I have a "5 item limit", which means that I can get 5 of one type of potion and like, full heals or something. In reality, later on in the game, that can screw you over...

I do the same thing and yes, it can really bite you in the ass x)
Still, it makes the nuzlocke more interesting I think.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on September 07, 2012, 12:46:05 PM
It does indeed, which adds the fun to it!

I also got Keldeo today. Whoot!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on September 07, 2012, 12:56:44 PM
That reminds me, A POKEMON EVENT WILL COME SOON AND I CAN DOWNLOAD KELDEO(S)!!!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on September 07, 2012, 03:09:05 PM
I think Y'all should check this (http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=4830.msg167708#msg167708) out.

A kind-of Spin-Off/Sequel to K-NiGhT's Pokemon Story (http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=4285.0).

30 and 31 are the sections I wrote of the story which I am basing the sequel on. (http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=4285.msg159665#msg159665)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: MoboMoga on September 11, 2012, 08:46:31 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on September 03, 2012, 06:39:10 PMDouble posting, but...

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_m9sxt3QM9f1qd6hv3o1_400.jpg&hash=75befb881cabd7417b6e87673f48a010f93d2251) Guess who became a champion today.

LOL. Love how you named your Dunsparce "Parfait", Nebbles!!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on September 11, 2012, 08:50:09 PM
her colors reminded me of one :3
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 12, 2012, 11:13:05 AM
And your Dunsparce is perfect indeed ;)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on September 12, 2012, 11:28:09 AM
Quote from: Roz~ on September 12, 2012, 11:13:05 AMAnd your Dunsparce is perfect indeed ;)

Every generation, I always hope for a Dunsparce evolution that has stats to blow away even legendaries. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on September 12, 2012, 02:47:48 PM
I want gen 6 to have tons of evolutions. Some good Evolutions, give one to Dunsparce/other "weak" pokemon...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 12, 2012, 03:14:28 PM
I don't want tons of evolutions, otherwise it's gonna be like gen 4 again, and gen 4 kinda sucked because there were so many new evolutions.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on September 12, 2012, 03:16:41 PM
Yeaah, that's true too...

I just want Eevolutions, really. That's it.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on September 12, 2012, 03:27:58 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on September 12, 2012, 03:16:41 PMYeaah, that's true too...

I just want Eevolutions, really. That's it.
Speaking of evolutions... have you heard the theory that Kangashkan was possibly going to be the evolution of Cubone? Just a theory, but it's very interesting...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: MoboMoga on September 12, 2012, 03:32:37 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on September 12, 2012, 03:14:28 PMI don't want tons of evolutions, otherwise it's gonna be like gen 4 again, and gen 4 kinda sucked because there were so many new evolutions.

Gen 4. It's really my first Pokemon game (although I loved Pokemon before then). Yeah, it really had a lot of evo's, but the music was splendid. Really Gen 4 has my fav pokemon music because everything's almpst based off of jazz (which is my fav type of piano music)  ;)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on September 12, 2012, 03:33:57 PM
The music is great, indeed, but... aergh, gen 4 had a lot of problems....
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on September 12, 2012, 03:54:53 PM
Gen 4 is great. Diamond/Pearl/Platinum was the worst main series game in my opinion.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on September 12, 2012, 04:02:42 PM
Well, I was more referring to the games themselves.

Like, god - D/P was so SLOW. The battles, the surfing.... and then the issue of barely any fire types...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on September 12, 2012, 10:07:58 PM
OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG Mystery Dungeon

http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on September 12, 2012, 10:29:35 PM
Quote from: spitllama on September 12, 2012, 10:07:58 PMOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG Mystery Dungeon

http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml
Full 3D...
Heh, oftentimes, I check Serebii daily; when I last checked, they hadn't yet updated it.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on September 12, 2012, 10:40:33 PM
I'M SO EXCITED I'M GONNA CRY SOMEONE HOLD ME
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: EFitTrainr on September 12, 2012, 10:43:33 PM
AJNFWAUOIENFG;OIWFGKJGNEJKRSNGJNZDSKJGNZSPGONZ;ELKFMOIWZENFGSZD NGEUN109EOINAJFNLKSANFEJKWFN SJNESLKJNFJNSFNSAJFNJSNFJZNSJFNSLKJNISDNJFNSJDZNJSNFJKSNDZKJNSZDGJNKJSVNOWAJIMNFJSANKFE

That actively conveys my emotions.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on September 12, 2012, 10:55:57 PM
Quote from: shadowkirby on September 12, 2012, 10:43:33 PMAJNFWAUOIENFG;OIWFGKJGNEJKRSNGJNZDSKJGNZSPGONZ;ELKFMOIWZENFGSZD NGEUN109EOINAJFNLKSANFEJKWFN SJNESLKJNFJNSFNSAJFNJSNFJZNSJFNSLKJNISDNJFNSJDZNJSNFJKSNDZKJNSZDGJNKJSVNOWAJIMNFJSANKFE

That actively conveys my emotions.
Quite a poetic response, do you not agree? It is what we all feel inside, at one point or another.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on September 12, 2012, 11:05:33 PM
 I need more info NOW omdsfksndfsd AHH

Like it's one game, apparently? Is it a full-blown PMD game? What is this???
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on September 12, 2012, 11:06:13 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on September 12, 2012, 11:05:33 PMI need more info NOW omdsfksndfsd AHH

Like it's one game, apparently? Is it a full-blown PMD game? What is this???
Seems to be a different variation of PMD?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on September 12, 2012, 11:15:06 PM
Yes but I'm so curious to see what they're doing with it! It looks like a side thing to PMD?

Because I do want another PMD game like the first two, though... and man the plot... what would they do?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on September 12, 2012, 11:35:32 PM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on September 12, 2012, 10:29:35 PMFull 3D...
Heh, oftentimes, I check Serebii daily; when I last checked, they hadn't yet updated it.
Quote from: shadowkirby on September 12, 2012, 10:43:33 PMAJNFWAUOIENFG;OIWFGKJGNEJKRSNGJNZDSKJGNZSPGONZ;ELKFMOIWZENFGSZD NGEUN109EOINAJFNLKSANFEJKWFN SJNESLKJNFJNSFNSAJFNJSNFJZNSJFNSLKJNISDNJFNSJDZNJSNFJKSNDZKJNSZDGJNKJSVNOWAJIMNFJSANKFE

That actively conveys my emotions.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on September 13, 2012, 07:57:15 AM
Because the map art looks very similar to that of the previous two, I'd like to believe it's a third entry in the series. Which makes me very happy.

Oh god I can't wait. I love the 3D models, and PMD is just amazing. Goddd I am so excited.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on September 13, 2012, 08:00:53 AM
Dude get over here to translate the text in those pictures!!! :P

Also, somebody change the poll to something about PMD!!! >:(
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on September 13, 2012, 08:01:47 AM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on September 13, 2012, 07:57:15 AMBecause the map art looks very similar to that of the previous two, I'd like to believe it's a third entry in the series. Which makes me very happy.

Oh god I can't wait. I love the 3D models, and PMD is just amazing. Goddd I am so excited.

same omg
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Dude on September 13, 2012, 10:48:57 AM
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on September 13, 2012, 08:00:53 AMDude get over here to translate the text in those pictures!!! :P
Nooooo. I'm not that good.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on September 13, 2012, 11:05:43 AM
Quote from: Dude on September 13, 2012, 10:48:57 AMNooooo. I'm not that good.
Pokemon games make me want to learn Japanese.  ::)
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on September 13, 2012, 11:48:22 AM
This will be the only good reason for me to get a 3DS
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on September 13, 2012, 02:02:59 PM
Im legit crying this is so amazing. And only in a few months!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: fabbemannen on September 23, 2012, 07:05:43 AM
Might as well post it here since I don't feel like searching for that Pokemon battles-topic.

I'm currently playing through Pokemon Diamond, but I don't feel like changing my wifi-settings to WEP, seeing as it's much more insecure.
How did you guys solve that problem?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on September 23, 2012, 09:10:48 AM
I don't remind what I exactly did, because my wi-fi just automatically collects to my DS...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on September 23, 2012, 09:36:13 AM
Unfortunately, Pokemon Diamond, Pearl, Platinum, HeartGold and SoulSilver do not support WPA connection, only WEP. It's the reason I could never use that wifi. Only Black and White (and other DSi enhanced games) can use WPA (and that's only playing on a DSi or 3DS).
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on September 23, 2012, 09:40:49 AM
Also, 2 weeks until Black 2/White 2!!!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on September 23, 2012, 09:43:14 AM
Yep! I reserved Black 2 at Target, they had a deal where when you reserve one (costs $1) you get a $5 gift card when you pick up your copy.

So excited. And my brother is excited too which is a nice surprise.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on September 23, 2012, 09:46:35 AM
I have to confess something.
I've never played Black or White.
There, I said it. It sounds unbelievable.

But I'll be getting White 2. You can download Genesect and Keldeo. 8)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on September 23, 2012, 09:58:57 AM
You should really play Black or White before the sequel...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on September 23, 2012, 10:14:37 AM
I've seen lots of LPs. :/
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on September 23, 2012, 10:19:35 AM
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on September 23, 2012, 10:14:37 AMI've seen lots of LPs. :/
If you have Black/White, I think you can sort of "transfer" some of the details of your game, right? Like references to your previous trainer, etc. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on September 23, 2012, 10:42:14 AM
Nope, it's entirely new. But you could still trade to BW, I'm sure.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on September 23, 2012, 10:48:48 AM
The reason that I haven't played B/W is that when Pokemon Crystal came I was like "Are kidding me?". Since then, I've only bought Emerald, Platinum and SoulSilver. And now White 2. I'm not such a Pokemon fan that I'd buy every game when released.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on September 23, 2012, 11:06:05 AM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on September 23, 2012, 10:42:14 AMNope, it's entirely new. But you could still trade to BW, I'm sure.
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Memory_Link (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Memory_Link)
That's what I meant.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on September 23, 2012, 03:47:44 PM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on September 23, 2012, 11:06:05 AMhttp://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Memory_Link (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Memory_Link)
That's what I meant.
That looks really cool.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on September 23, 2012, 06:48:40 PM
So for my tumblr I'm doing this pre BW2 vlog thing where I talk about tons of feelings about Pokemon, my experiences, etc

Would you guys be interested in it too? If I posted 'em here?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on September 23, 2012, 07:02:54 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on September 23, 2012, 06:48:40 PMSo for my tumblr I'm doing this pre BW2 vlog thing where I talk about tons of feelings about Pokemon, my experiences, etc

Would you guys be interested in it too? If I posted 'em here?
Possibly? It's always nice to hear different opinions.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on September 28, 2012, 06:09:20 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on September 23, 2012, 06:48:40 PMSo for my tumblr I'm doing this pre BW2 vlog thing where I talk about tons of feelings about Pokemon, my experiences, etc

Would you guys be interested in it too? If I posted 'em here?
Go for it.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on September 28, 2012, 06:18:53 PM
http://thebattlefrontier.tumblr.com/tagged/pre-bw2-vlog-thing

Here's all of them so far.
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on October 03, 2012, 02:26:46 PM
What would be a good Pokemon for a solo run in Pokemon Blue? I've never played RBY before, but after playing LeafGreen it's kind of boring :X That and my roommate says a solo run would be "impossible."
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on October 03, 2012, 03:04:54 PM
Pidgey.

I dare you.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on October 03, 2012, 03:18:03 PM
Bulbasaur or Squirtle steamrolls most of the game. Especially with Venusaur's infamous Toxic/Leech Seed combo, where both moves rack up a lot of residual damage due to being calculated by the same counter (Toxic's damage doubles every turn. When Leech Seed is used alongside it, that damage will also double every turn, and healing accordingly). Also, Leech Seed heals 100% of the damage inflicted in gen. I.

In a solo run, you have all the TMs at the disposal of one Pokémon, and you can teach it moves suited to fight the next gym leader. This makes Pokémon like Nidoran or Rhyhorn, with their vast movepools, very efficient.


EDIT: A true solo run of Pokémon Blue can only be done with one of these three Pokémon: Krabby/Kingler, Lickitung or Mew. No other Pokémon can learn all three of Cut, Surf and Strength, which are required to proceed through the entire game (Note that there are more Gen. I Pokémon capable of learning all three in later generations, such as Nidoking, Rhydon and Kangaskhan). Either way, you'd have to trade to obtain any of them from the get-go, and then you'd have an unfair advantage because of the EXP boost (and in the case of Krabby and Lickitung, high start level unless you traded from G/S/C where newly hatched Pokémon are at the acceptable level 5).
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on October 03, 2012, 03:29:59 PM
K so far I've beaten the first gym leader with just Squirtle. I don't really know how this works in Gen 1, but do I need to EV train or worry about natures? I'm pretty sure they're not in this gen. Is there any equivalent that would make it wise to start over the game?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on October 03, 2012, 03:33:36 PM
Quote from: spitllama on October 03, 2012, 03:29:59 PMK so far I've beaten the first gym leader with just Squirtle. I don't really know how this works in Gen 1, but do I need to EV train or worry about natures? I'm pretty sure they're not in this gen. Is there any equivalent that would make it wise to start over the game?

Nope, no EVs and Natures before Gen. III, if memory serves me correctly.

There is, however, another, similar mechanic, where you gain stat points by beating Pokémon that excel in that stat. However, they can all be maxed out, and likely will be by the time you finish the game, seeing as you run solo.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on October 03, 2012, 03:42:45 PM
K great I'll just continue as is. Last question: what's the best HM slave besides Mew?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on October 03, 2012, 03:51:04 PM
Quote from: spitllama on October 03, 2012, 03:42:45 PMK great I'll just continue as is. Last question: what's the best HM slave besides Mew?
Ratatata
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on October 03, 2012, 03:51:25 PM
Are you gonna evolve Squirtle? Most solo runs keep evo-line pokemon at the first stage.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on October 03, 2012, 04:04:30 PM
I'm following these rules:

1) no evolving
2) you can have as many pokes as you want, so long as they don't ever enter battle
3) you can use as many items as you'd like

Sound right?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on October 03, 2012, 04:10:20 PM
What I learned from my solo run is that its extremely hard to keep an HM slave from entering a battle when your actual solo-run Pokemon dies. I either didnt fight with them at all (I used an attack that was either non-effective or some other meaningless action) or I used them as a placeholder while I recovered my battling pokemon. Idk if that considered cheating or not, but oh well :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on October 03, 2012, 04:18:40 PM
I'm pretty sure that if your soloist dies, you must reset.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on October 03, 2012, 05:25:57 PM
Nah, not really. I think that's nuzlocke rules only.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on October 03, 2012, 06:48:40 PM
Quote from: SocialFox on October 03, 2012, 03:51:04 PMRatatata
In Crystal, I used Tauros. :P
Not exactly the best, but it can learn a variety of HMs (and Rock Smash).
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on October 04, 2012, 12:35:34 AM
I'd use Krabby as a HM slave. Can learn both Surf, Strength and Cut, and that's all you need, really.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on October 04, 2012, 11:30:40 AM
Quote from: Cobraroll on October 04, 2012, 12:35:34 AMI'd use Krabby as a HM slave. Can learn both Surf, Strength and Cut, and that's all you need, really.
I just love travelling through Rock Tunnel in the dark. :P It provides such a disorienting challenge. :P

Unless, of course, you intend to get another Pokemon to learn Flash? :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on October 04, 2012, 12:02:06 PM
Pfta, I don't use flash in RBY at all. I can get through rock tunnel in the dark perfectly.

which is kind of sad.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on October 04, 2012, 12:20:13 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on October 04, 2012, 12:02:06 PMPfta, I don't use flash in RBY at all. I can get through rock tunnel in the dark perfectly.

which is kind of sad.
I did it, once. But my Pokemon were at least level 60 (my starter, I believe)...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on October 04, 2012, 12:31:22 PM
Nah, I literally never used flash in gen 1. XD I can power through rock tunnel pretty easily...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on October 04, 2012, 01:01:22 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on October 04, 2012, 12:31:22 PMNah, I literally never used flash in gen 1. XD I can power through rock tunnel pretty easily...
With a Charmeleon it's pretty hard... :P
Most of the times, my older brother and I evolved our starters the moment we left Rock Tunnel, right before we got into Lavender Town (shudder)... but there was one time when he power trained his Charmeleon before Lt. Surge... :P

The game gets a lot easier when you finally get Fly.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: dahans on October 09, 2012, 02:07:04 AM
Quote from: Nebbles on October 04, 2012, 12:02:06 PMPfta, I don't use flash in RBY at all. I can get through rock tunnel in the dark perfectly.

which is kind of sad.

wow... I did that once, when I played it for the first time. I got stuck there for about 5 days haha. You really don't need flash even though you don't see a single thing? respect! I see I have to play much more xD
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on October 09, 2012, 07:10:36 AM
Quote from: Nebbles on October 04, 2012, 12:31:22 PMNah, I literally never used flash in gen 1. XD I can power through rock tunnel pretty easily...

I do the exact same thing =P I never go get the HM Flash because I'm lazy, and I always end up going through the Rock Tunnel in the dark.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: fabbemannen on October 10, 2012, 07:35:32 AM
I never use HMs like flash or defog. Almost funnier to go around in the dark in the older games. I once got stuck in one of the first gen 2-caves (forgot what it's called). Good memories
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Dude on October 10, 2012, 12:58:26 PM
Quote from: fabbemannen on October 10, 2012, 07:35:32 AMI never use HMs like flash or defog. Almost funnier to go around in the dark in the older games. I once got stuck in one of the first gen 2-caves (forgot what it's called). Good memories
"Dark Cave" lol.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Clanker37 on October 13, 2012, 07:34:21 AM
Only real Pokemon Trainers grope around in the dark.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on October 13, 2012, 11:49:39 AM
Quote from: Clanker37 on October 13, 2012, 07:34:21 AMOnly real Pokemon Trainers grope around in the dark.
...only the real Pokemon Trainers know how to forage for food in a dark, empty cave... :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on October 13, 2012, 11:50:43 AM
Filled to the brim with Zubat...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on October 13, 2012, 11:54:42 AM
Quote from: Nebbles on October 13, 2012, 11:50:43 AMFilled to the brim with Zubat...
...too bad they can't evolve into Crobat until Generation 2...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Dude on October 13, 2012, 02:42:21 PM
Quote from: Clanker37 on October 13, 2012, 07:34:21 AMOnly real Pokemon Trainers grope around in the dark.
...

I'm such a perv. :-[
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on October 13, 2012, 07:43:40 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on October 13, 2012, 11:50:43 AMFilled to the brim with Zubat...
Eat the Zubat.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Olimar12345 on October 13, 2012, 11:46:23 PM
Virbank city get! :/
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: EFitTrainr on October 14, 2012, 11:13:34 AM
Welp.
I got the new game. :I
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Zunawe on October 14, 2012, 01:52:05 PM
I still need the time/money to get and play the first b/w. It's odd because I have a full Pokedex 3D and I have nothing to use it for.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on October 14, 2012, 03:16:09 PM
I'm putting the finishing touches on my newest sprite fusion: Ronkrai (Darkrai + Hydreigon)...
It has two forms (Phantom Nightmare and Morbid Nightmare)...

I'll post it here when I've fully completed it.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on October 14, 2012, 05:28:21 PM
What are everyone's thoughts on the new game? Worth getting?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on October 14, 2012, 05:29:48 PM
Quote from: spitllama on October 14, 2012, 05:28:21 PMWhat are everyone's thoughts on the new game? Worth getting?
I STILL HAVENT PLAYED IT AJDKCJRYSNFJSK
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on October 14, 2012, 05:39:28 PM
I'M SORRY AJDKCJRYSNFJSK

I had to do the same thing with White when I got it, if that makes you feel any better. Went a week while it just sat on my desk, staring.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on October 14, 2012, 05:53:19 PM
Quote from: spitllama on October 14, 2012, 05:28:21 PMWhat are everyone's thoughts on the new game? Worth getting?

YES YES YES IT'S GREAT YES
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on October 14, 2012, 06:31:21 PM
Nintendo needs to start working on their names for new games. Black 2? White 2? When before we had Yellow, Crystal, Emerald, and Platinum? What was wrong with those kind of names? And then there's "New Super Mario Bros. 2" and "New Super Mario Bros. U". This may seem a little nit-picky, but the names are the first thing that consumers hear and see when considering a new game, and if I didn't know better, they would turn me off.  :-\
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on October 14, 2012, 07:21:48 PM
Quote from: blueflower999 on October 14, 2012, 06:31:21 PMNintendo needs to start working on their names for new games. Black 2? White 2? When before we had Yellow, Crystal, Emerald, and Platinum? What was wrong with those kind of names?
Because those games were modified versions of the games that were released. Black/White 2 are sequels.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 15, 2012, 07:06:37 AM
the games are something of a mixed bag. I think the biggest issue is that building a team is annoying because you've probably already played BW enough that you've used all the decent mons, and I didn't really care for most of the older mons included.

Also, I completed the Unova Pokedex in BW, and don't feel like doing it again. :P

Overall, it's different but it's largely the same game. The beginning is phenomenal because of the new areas, after the second gym, you're back in the same old unova region, with largely the same Pokemon in each area. It's a step in the right direction, but if you've played the hell out of Black and White (like I have) it'll feel like more of the same.

Keep in mind that those are the complaints. There's a lot that's great about the game. I give it an 8/10.

Honestly though, you already know if you want the game.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on October 15, 2012, 01:15:17 PM
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.wikia.com%2Fsnivypedia%2Fimages%2Ff%2Ffa%2FRonkrai_Sprite.png&hash=d2c7df58b0e4d1108c11cddfbe44d2799dbd48e5)

My newest sprite fusion, completed. What do you think?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on October 15, 2012, 03:41:56 PM
Quote from: Shadoninja on October 14, 2012, 07:21:48 PMBecause those games were modified versions of the games that were released. Black/White 2 are sequels.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on October 15, 2012, 07:06:37 AMOverall, it's different but it's largely the same game. The beginning is phenomenal because of the new areas, after the second gym, you're back in the same old unova region, with largely the same Pokemon in each area. It's a step in the right direction, but if you've played the hell out of Black and White (like I have) it'll feel like more of the same.
???
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on October 15, 2012, 03:55:33 PM
They are sequels, but a lot of the middle game has the old gym leaders back. Of course, after Opelucid, we get new stuff back... but they are true to their name of being sequels.
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on October 16, 2012, 12:22:34 PM
Didn't get much of a response on this before so I'll reword it: which version did you buy and why? Was that decision based upon which version of B/W you have?

Really can't decide which to buy right now.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on October 16, 2012, 02:25:26 PM
Well I got both because I always get both games hurr

but it depends on version exclusives really.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: November on October 16, 2012, 02:59:33 PM
Quote from: spitllama on October 16, 2012, 12:22:34 PMDidn't get much of a response on this before so I'll reword it: which version did you buy and why? Was that decision based upon which version of B/W you have?

Really can't decide which to buy right now.

I bought White originally, because I a) liked the exclusives much better (Zekrom, Braviary, Reuniclus, etc.), and b) I enjoy the rustic, natural feeling compared to the futuristic Black.
I got White 2, mainly because of the same reasons (with exception of Reshiram, but hey, that's what trading's for!)
In the end, it really doesn't matter which one you get - just pick the one with the version exclusives and the feel you like the most. Also, playing one game or the other doesn't really matter (only thing is that N would have just gotten the legendary you caught back in BW). Of course, Challenge and Assist Key are exclusive, but it doesn't really matter as you would only be able to play with Challenge Key from the beginning if you had a friend with B2.


Anyway, I was incredibly impressed with BW2. I think I enjoyed it far more than BW (with exception of the odd-paced plot and the lower difficulty). All the cities and towns have changed in one way or another for the better, and the new places are great (and the new music is heavenly). And the characters (in particular, Colress) are amazing.

Quoteafter the second gym, you're back in the same old unova region, with largely the same Pokemon in each area
Just as a side note, while there is Nimbassa, Driftveil (with Poke Tournament), Castelia, and Mistralton, the right side of Unova (pre-E4, at least) is all new or majorly updated. Humilau City, Rebirth Mountain (and surrounding areas), Lentimas Town, new routes and caves, and completely revamped Victory Road. Even then, you get access to areas such as Clay's Tunnel post-E4 (granted, I haven't played much of post-game. Iccirus city seemed to be the same, and I haven't seem anything below Castelia yet).


QuoteAlso, I completed the Unova Pokedex in BW, and don't feel like doing it again. 
But... but... you get a badge! :P
Some of them are ridiculous, though. Completely fill your boxes? Meet 1000 people in Join Avenue? Ak.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on October 16, 2012, 03:57:56 PM
And yes, oh goodness the new music... it's beyond gorgeous...
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on October 16, 2012, 04:05:36 PM
Thank you November. That helped tremendously.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Taser9090 on October 16, 2012, 04:54:09 PM
Quote from: November on October 16, 2012, 02:59:33 PMBut... but... you get a badge! :P
Some of them are ridiculous, though. Completely fill your boxes? Meet 1000 people in Join Avenue? Ak.
I used to trade a lot online and visit houses in the DW, so getting a thousand people would have been a fun objective in the BW days. Also, the game expects you to live in urban areas where you can get passes easily :|
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 16, 2012, 05:08:09 PM
Opelucid City music is much better in Black.

Really they're the same game. Get whichever one your friends don't have.

Also yes, Colress is the best new character easily.

The elite four and champion were far too easy in my opinion.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on October 16, 2012, 05:14:23 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on October 16, 2012, 05:08:09 PMOpelucid City music is much better in Black.

Really they're the same game. Get whichever one your friends don't have.

Also yes, Colress is the best new character easily.

The elite four and champion were far too easy in my opinion.
I know youre talking about Black and White 2, but are they the same songs from Opelucid city that they are in the original games? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmqpoJzT6gU). And the elite four were extremely hard for me in Black :|
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: November on October 16, 2012, 05:21:03 PM
Ah, really? I find that they are both equal - the almost sad tone of OpelucidW is beautiful, and the more upbeat tune of OpelucidB is quite fun. But still, I didn't really like the aesthetics of OB. It was too out-of-place.

Bubbles - Yes, Opelucid's music is the same in BW2 as in BW (with exception of one point of time in BW2).

I found Iris to be very easy this time (Colress was much more difficult, partly because I had no Fighting, Ground, or Fire attacks). Then again, Leech Seed + Burn + Power Split may have had something to do with it.

I (not-so) secretly harbour a vain hope that Colress will reappear in the later games.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 16, 2012, 05:57:56 PM
I feel like they're both very sad and beautiful. I just think the Black version is better (for me personally).

Also that new Pokemon Reorchestrated soundtrack on iTunes is AMAZING. Go spend $10 on it, it'll be some of the best money you spend.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on October 16, 2012, 05:58:45 PM
I love Colress a lot more than I should >_>

I like Black's version of Opelucid better. It's a really really good song wow
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 16, 2012, 06:05:46 PM
That solo synthesizer part that kicks in after the intro is just WOW.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on October 16, 2012, 07:15:42 PM
I know fffshjksfc

it's one of my favorite songs from Unova, big time...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on October 19, 2012, 08:09:11 PM
Vulpix/Ninetales have such cruddy movepools in Leafgreen.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on October 19, 2012, 08:12:16 PM
ugh they do they truly do it's so awful
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 19, 2012, 08:16:36 PM
iirc Flamethrower is really its only good move -_o I mean I suppose Will-o-wisp is a viable option but...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on October 19, 2012, 08:19:49 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on October 19, 2012, 08:16:36 PMiirc Flamethrower is really its only good move -_o I mean I suppose Will-o-wisp is a viable option but...
Yeah and it doesn't help that it learns flamethrower at level 29 and its first moves it has are quick attack, will-o-wisp, roar, and tail whip. I actually spent time gambling for the 4000 coins necessary to get the TM.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on October 19, 2012, 08:27:41 PM
Geez. You have more patience that I... I'd grind it to level 29 before getting broke at the slots.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on October 19, 2012, 08:29:51 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on October 19, 2012, 08:27:41 PMGeez. You have more patience that I... I'd grind it to level 29 before getting broke at the slots.
I found the magic slot machine. I've gotten three 7s quite a lot on that machine.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on October 19, 2012, 08:38:13 PM
Quote from: Shadoninja on October 19, 2012, 08:29:51 PMI found the magic slot machine. I've gotten three 7s quite a lot on that machine.
wut.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on October 19, 2012, 08:43:29 PM
Is it different for each game, or...?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on October 19, 2012, 08:44:28 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on October 19, 2012, 08:43:29 PMIs it different for each game, or...?
maybe. It's the machine above the guy in the second column from the left.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on October 19, 2012, 08:44:50 PM
Quote from: K-NiGhT on October 19, 2012, 08:38:13 PMwut.
A slot machine that gives you the greatest chance of winning.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on October 20, 2012, 01:14:17 AM
Pokémon World

-Where kids can gamble tens of thousands of coins legally
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on October 20, 2012, 01:28:48 AM
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on October 20, 2012, 01:14:17 AMPokémon World

-Where kids can gamble tens of thousands of coins legally
...and why aren't the games rate T for "Simulated Gambling," may I ask? :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 20, 2012, 07:09:20 AM
Because that's absolutely ridiculous.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on October 20, 2012, 12:16:26 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on October 20, 2012, 07:09:20 AMBecause that's absolutely ridiculous.
Other games are... the ESRB plays favorites...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on October 20, 2012, 02:36:58 PM
Finally started Black 2 today! :D My character's name is LinZ, my rival is Otto (who ironically has an Oshawott, though I didnt plan that) and my Tepig's name is Timmy. I got the Genesect, but is there any way to rename it? Its kinda the odd one out in my party since its the only one without a nickname
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on October 20, 2012, 02:41:08 PM
I started Black too(pun intended). I named all my Pokeymon after NSM members. XD

...Somehow DrP the Oshawott always faints... lol
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on October 20, 2012, 02:41:47 PM
Ooooh who am I???
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on October 20, 2012, 02:44:08 PM
Trubbish

I haven't caught a Nebbles yet, sowwy.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on October 20, 2012, 02:44:57 PM
rude >:U
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on October 20, 2012, 02:46:05 PM
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on October 20, 2012, 02:41:08 PMI started Black too(pun intended). I named all my Pokeymon after NSM members. XD

...Somehow DrP the Oshawott always faints... lol
Haha you should make a list of all the names and what Pokemon they are. Are they what Pokemon you see the person as or just whatever member pops into your head first?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bespinben on October 20, 2012, 03:09:50 PM
Jamaha = Arceus

 ::)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on October 20, 2012, 03:12:37 PM
Just got a female Mareep.
Named her Nebbles.
Flaaffy is my fav Pokémon ;)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on October 20, 2012, 03:14:07 PM
Quote from: Bespinben on October 20, 2012, 03:09:50 PMJamaha = Arceus

 ::)
Shiny Charizard = BlackDragonSlayer :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on October 20, 2012, 03:14:43 PM
Hurrah! I love Ampharos :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on October 20, 2012, 03:15:58 PM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on October 20, 2012, 03:14:07 PMShiny Charizard = BlackDragonSlayer :P
So you decided to kill yourself? idk
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on October 20, 2012, 03:23:46 PM
Shiny Ninetales= Socialfox.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bespinben on October 20, 2012, 03:24:11 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on October 20, 2012, 03:14:43 PMHurrah! I love Ampharos :D

Tell me if you still do now:

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1111.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fh475%2FBespinben%2Frealistic_ampharos_by_twarda8-d54btam.jpg&hash=cfc57f2ef5f4b0eb970b7a145dd0f056a289eafa)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on October 20, 2012, 03:27:24 PM
holy shit Nebbles dominates the shit out of everybody!!! :O

edit: Now she's a Flaaffy
<3 u Nebu

^epic electrosaurus
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on October 20, 2012, 03:46:21 PM
yeaaaah I am the best
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: EFitTrainr on October 20, 2012, 05:07:00 PM
FSM who am I!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 20, 2012, 05:28:33 PM
FSM will you name a Minccino after me
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on October 20, 2012, 05:56:29 PM
"This is our boss, Mr. Stu Deeoh!"

Pokemon games are so clever. Also I've deemed Azurill completely useless now that mine is level 12 with a special attack of 9.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on October 20, 2012, 06:08:22 PM
...I don't know where else to put this, sooooo...
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.wikia.com%2Fsnivypedia%2Fimages%2F0%2F0d%2FLauual_V2.0.png&hash=ee58e47ea1a90b86a68c0044e6172f7bad4083ae)
Backstory: Lauual was one of my first sprites, back when I made all the sprites bigger before I edited them. :P The original ones are the bigger ones, and the normal sized ones are the new ones, a tribute to how far I've come with Pokemon sprite editing. I literally did the whole thing over: the original ones are really messed up and hard to work with.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on October 20, 2012, 11:47:24 PM
Sorry Slow...
...I already did that!

I better start catching lots of pokemanz. XD
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on October 21, 2012, 12:35:24 AM
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on October 20, 2012, 11:47:24 PMSorry Slow...
...I already did that!

I better start catching lots of pokemanz. XD
...on another note, I'm taking sprite fusion requests in my spare time...

Just post a few names, the type(s) you want it to be, and leave the rest to me! It's totally free, so no refunds! :P :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on October 21, 2012, 12:47:58 AM
Why did you quote me? ???
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on October 21, 2012, 01:23:19 AM
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on October 21, 2012, 12:47:58 AMWhy did you quote me? ???
Because it sounded lonely and didn't exactly seem complete (and like I was talking to myself :P).
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: davy on October 21, 2012, 05:50:55 AM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on October 21, 2012, 12:35:24 AM...on another note, I'm taking sprite fusion requests in my spare time...

Just post a few names, the type(s) you want it to be, and leave the rest to me! It's totally free, so no refunds! :P :P

So I started looking at pokémon/trainer sprites I'd like to be fused, and this was the result:

Wailord+Camerupt (Poison)

Tympole+Magneton (Water/Electricity)

Wally+Kirlia (Psychic)

Dome Ace Tukker+Palkia (Dragon/Psychic)

Subway Boss Ingo+Subway Boss Emmet+Snorunt (Ice/Darkness) (Snorunt should be as big as Ingo and Emmet together)

Iris+Gothorita (Darkness)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 21, 2012, 06:17:12 AM
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on October 20, 2012, 05:56:29 PM"This is our boss, Mr. Stu Deeoh!"

Pokemon games are so clever. Also I've deemed Azurill completely useless now that mine is level 12 with a special attack of 9.

It's really good as a Marill/Azumarill, assuming you have the ability huge power. And you could also be looking at a negative effect of your nature.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Clanker37 on October 21, 2012, 08:22:22 AM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on October 21, 2012, 06:17:12 AMIt's really good as a Marill/Azumarill, assuming you have the ability huge power. And you could also be looking at a negative effect of your nature.
I love Azumarill! It's so adorable and cute, but it can also massacre everything it meets! (Well, nearly everything)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on October 21, 2012, 11:20:34 AM
Quote from: davy on October 21, 2012, 05:50:55 AMSo I started looking at pokémon/trainer sprites I'd like to be fused, and this was the result:

Wailord+Camerupt (Poison)

Tympole+Magneton (Water/Electricity)

Wally+Kirlia (Psychic)

Dome Ace Tukker+Palkia (Dragon/Psychic)

Subway Boss Ingo+Subway Boss Emmet+Snorunt (Ice/Darkness) (Snorunt should be as big as Ingo and Emmet together)

Iris+Gothorita (Darkness)
Well, I'm not sure if I can do the trainer sprites (I've never worked with them before), but I'll gladly attempt the other ones! :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on October 21, 2012, 11:47:03 AM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on October 21, 2012, 12:35:24 AM...on another note, I'm taking sprite fusion requests in my spare time...

Just post a few names, the type(s) you want it to be, and leave the rest to me! It's totally free, so no refunds! :P :P
*Uses random number generator to make number between 1 and 649*
Charmeleon and Mightyena

This'll be interesting.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on October 21, 2012, 11:52:26 AM
Okay now me!

Metang and Purugly

Now this shall be interesting.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on October 21, 2012, 01:14:51 PM
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.wikia.com%2Fsnivypedia%2Fimages%2F4%2F46%2FPokemon_Gray.png&hash=c06b224aef6eb30b92006c5425e332f212a3a7f0)
Backstory: This was an older sprite that I never finished (but recently completed). This was like my third sprite or something... it actually came out quite well...

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.wikia.com%2Fsnivypedia%2Fimages%2F0%2F0a%2FWailord_Camerupt.png&hash=7dde7d3d17004002d5198f45050f2a1ae725b017)
This was really fun, actually! The blue one was going to be shiny originally, but I decided to swap them...

Next up, in order:
"Charmeleon and Mightyena (possibly Fire/Dark?)" blueflower999
"Tympole+Magneton (Water/Electricity)" davy
"Metang and Purugly (Steel ???)" FSM-Reapr
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Zunawe on October 21, 2012, 01:36:26 PM
You should make a pokemon game where you can breed different species of pokemon.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on October 21, 2012, 01:39:41 PM
Quote from: Zunawe on October 21, 2012, 01:36:26 PMYou should make a pokemon game where you can breed different species of pokemon.
...I was thinking more a mad-scientist style game... :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on October 21, 2012, 04:54:41 PM
Mad scientist, breeder, same thing.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: the_last_sheikah on October 21, 2012, 05:22:35 PM
Except breeder involves more coitus.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on October 21, 2012, 05:51:48 PM
Quote from: the_last_sheikah on October 21, 2012, 05:22:35 PMExcept breeder involves more coitus.
:3 I see what you did there ;)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: davy on October 22, 2012, 12:31:37 AM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on October 21, 2012, 01:14:51 PM(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.wikia.com%2Fsnivypedia%2Fimages%2F0%2F0a%2FWailord_Camerupt.png&hash=7dde7d3d17004002d5198f45050f2a1ae725b017)

They look great! I especially like the eye of camerupt. Without eyelids its facial expression becomes something like: WTF, why is there a volcano on my head?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on October 22, 2012, 07:53:08 PM
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.wikia.com%2Fsnivypedia%2Fimages%2F6%2F65%2FCharmeleon_Mightyena.png&hash=2c32a0d7f2fe6150a97590503d933926d5d2b113)
One-headed and two-headed variety of Charhounds (Hellhounds :P) for your viewing pleasure (I couldn't decide which was better).

Next up:
"Tympole+Magneton (Water/Electricity)" davy
"Metang and Purugly (Steel )" FSM-Reapr

REQUESTS ARE CURRENTLY CLOSED
Until I finish these two above.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: MoboMoga on October 22, 2012, 09:37:20 PM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on October 22, 2012, 07:53:08 PM"Metang and Purugly (Steel )" FSM-Reapr

Wow, I'm actually excited to see Metang and Purugly combine. I think it's going to be quite hilarious.  ;D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on October 23, 2012, 01:52:23 PM
Hey, BDS, how about you make your own thread for this?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on October 23, 2012, 02:12:43 PM
Quote from: blueflower999 on October 23, 2012, 01:52:23 PMHey, BDS, how about you make your own thread for this?
What forum would it be in?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on October 23, 2012, 02:13:30 PM
Art.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on October 23, 2012, 02:15:19 PM
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on October 23, 2012, 02:13:30 PMArt.
One new thread, coming right up.

EDIT: http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=4923.0
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on October 27, 2012, 08:00:36 PM
White 2 is so awesome so far
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Dude on October 27, 2012, 08:03:40 PM
Quote from: Shadoninja on October 27, 2012, 08:00:36 PMWhite 2 is so awesome so far
*HIGHFIVE*
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 27, 2012, 08:05:16 PM
Ah yeah, I'm up to six badges in my newly restarted Black 2.

I have completed the Habitat List in every area so far besides the one I'm currently in, Undella Bay (I had to trade for Cubchoo since it's only found in Winter). It's taken a LONG time. Don't even get me started on Lostlorn Forest. Look at the amount of Pokemon available. And so many of them are only in the rustling grass. /shudders
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on October 27, 2012, 08:10:47 PM
Slow, what pokemon are on your team? Right now I have 4 badges and a 4 man team, simply because I cant find a pokemon strong enough
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on October 27, 2012, 08:16:50 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on October 27, 2012, 08:05:16 PMAh yeah, I'm up to six badges in my newly restarted Black 2.

I have completed the Habitat List in every area so far besides the one I'm currently in, Undella Bay (I had to trade for Cubchoo since it's only found in Winter). It's taken a LONG time. Don't even get me started on Lostlorn Forest. Look at the amount of Pokemon available. And so many of them are only in the rustling grass. /shudders
The habitat list is a cool feature.

I'm currently at victory road with serperior, electabuzz, scrafty, reuniclus, cincinno, and pelipper.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 27, 2012, 08:24:37 PM
Quote from: Shadoninja on October 27, 2012, 08:16:50 PMThe habitat list is a cool feature.

I'm currently at victory road with serperior, electabuzz, scrafty, reuniclus, cincinno, and pelipper.

Yes, it's making me want to complete the Unova Pokedex AGAIN XD Also, excellent team. I love everyone on it. Are you using the awesome Skill Link Minccino Bianca shows you?

Quote from: Bubbles7689 on October 27, 2012, 08:10:47 PMSlow, what pokemon are on your team? Right now I have 4 badges and a 4 man team, simply because I cant find a pokemon strong enough

My current game I have Samurott, Liepard, Stoutland, Arcanine, Maractus and Swanna, all Lv39-40.
My first game I had Serperior, Ampharos, Haxorus, Flygon, Zoroark and random other mons filled the last spot, including I think Cobalion at one point :/ hm.

I'm really enjoying my current game; besides Samurott, I've never used any of these monsters before. Swanna and Maractus are especially surprising me with how much I enjoy raising them.
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on October 27, 2012, 08:29:00 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on October 27, 2012, 08:24:37 PMYes, it's making me want to complete the Unova Pokedex AGAIN XD Also, excellent team. I love everyone on it. Are you using the awesome Skill Link Minccino Bianca shows you?

My current game I have Samurott, Liepard, Stoutland, Arcanine, Maractus and Swanna, all Lv39-40.
My first game I had Serperior, Ampharos, Haxorus, Flygon, Zoroark and random other mons filled the last spot, including I think Cobalion at one point :/ hm.

I'm really enjoying my current game; besides Samurott, I've never used any of these monsters before. Swanna and Maractus are especially surprising me with how much I enjoy raising them.
Fuck yes. Skill link m/cincinno is so deadly.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 27, 2012, 08:34:50 PM
I'm going to raise mine post-game. I have been waiting for a Skill Link Cinccino since BW. Now at last everyone will know the power of the Chinchillas!!!!!!!!

Seriously. Tail Slap. Rock Blast. Bullet Seed. All 25 power per hit. All hit 5 times, resulting in a total of 125 power per attack, which is already powerful.

And with Tail Slap, that's actually 37.5 power per hit due to STAB, giving it an amazing 187.5 power per attack.

And if Rock Blast or Bullet Seed is super effective, that's 50 power per hit, making for a whopping 250 power per attack.

And if Rock Blast or Bullet Seed is DOUBLE super effective, that's 100 power per hit, making for a RIDICULOUS 500 power per attack.

Yes, it's been possible for a while to achieve even higher powers with Cinccino's Technician Ability, but to have a consistently reliable movepool with that sort of power? I can only imagine what sort of havoc Dream World Cinccino will wreak in online play, with that Speed and Attack.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on October 27, 2012, 08:35:40 PM
...so Tepig wasnt the best starter choice? Currently I have Pignite, Lucario, Genesect, and Krokorok as my main team, and the other two spots have a Psyduck that will eventually learn surf and a Ducklett that Im training. I probably should be trining it at the moment, but the Magnemites are distracting me. I keep getting one named Oliver and its such an adorable name for a Magnemite that Im thinking about keeping it :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 27, 2012, 08:39:17 PM
Yeahhh I used Genesect my first game. It was really boring to train because it was so good. :/ It was way better than my other mons, which I don't love.

If you like strong mons like that, you could transfer Keldeo from Black and White, assuming you downloaded it from Gamestop. Its alternate form (you can change its form behind Alder's house) is really cool! And it's at Lv15, meaning you wouldn't have to train it much. It grows fast like Genesect because of its OT.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on October 27, 2012, 08:42:26 PM
Im not usually for strong Pokemon, and I pick my team based on what Pokemon I like. I never EV train or anything either. Genesect helps me out of situations where I'd basically die, so hes helpful. And I didnt get Keldeo, and I dont really like it that much
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 27, 2012, 08:44:11 PM
Hmm....you could get a Sewaddle. Leavanny is pretty strong. idk.

I do like Swanna, but Ducklett's not that great until it evolves so be ready for some time when it's a bit tough to use. XP
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on October 27, 2012, 08:51:11 PM
Agh so jealous! The game's been sitting in my room for a week now and I haven't been able to play it.

Can you satisfy the habitat list by just trading pokes from B/W over to B2/W2?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on October 27, 2012, 08:57:10 PM
Im pretty sure it would. I battled a trainer with a pokemon and it showed up in my habitat list even though I havent seen it in the wild. I think as long as its in your Pokedex its in the habitat list.

I got a magnemite with Pokerus 8) ..anyone know how it works? I heard it expires at midnight, so that not very useful then. It might already be gone but idk how to tell

EDIT: I battled and now 4 of my team are infected :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Zunawe on October 27, 2012, 09:42:31 PM
If you box them it preserves the disease, I think.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on October 27, 2012, 09:44:14 PM
It indeed does.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 27, 2012, 09:52:29 PM
Quote from: spitllama on October 27, 2012, 08:51:11 PMAgh so jealous! The game's been sitting in my room for a week now and I haven't been able to play it.

Can you satisfy the habitat list by just trading pokes from B/W over to B2/W2?

Yes. If it's in your Pokedex, it's in the Habitat List. i.e. rather than finding rippling water a billion times to find a rare starmie, I just used a water stone on my Staryu to fill the Habitat List.

You get one sticker for just seeing everything in an area; catching gives you another.
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on October 27, 2012, 11:31:12 PM
Bubbles I found Pokerus on a Magikarp in Platinum!

Keep the poke in the PC, and it won't expire at midnight. To spread the virus, simply keep that poke in your party and all other pokes will eventually catch it as well. When the virus "expires," all it does is lose its contagious nature. The smiley face says that double EVs are still received, but pokerus cant be spread.

Idk if I'm preaching to the choir but yah.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on October 28, 2012, 01:14:10 AM
lol I have a story.
My friend breeded a Swinub that had Pokerus in Platinum. He didn't know what it meant. I said: It's a virus program in the game that infects all of your Pokemon. After that they can run away in the middle of battle and never come back.
So he traded it to me. ;D I'm so mean...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on October 28, 2012, 08:16:40 AM
Wait.. I thought Pokerus doubled the Exp intake, but its only for EVs? Ive infected literally every pokemon I have, but I dont wanna EV train them :(
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on October 28, 2012, 10:39:07 AM
No it doesn't affect exp at all
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on October 28, 2012, 10:40:06 AM
Ughh then why did I do that XD Does it double the EV intake or the overall EVs the pokemon can hold?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on October 28, 2012, 10:42:12 AM
Intake
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on October 28, 2012, 10:45:49 AM
So it just speeds up EV training?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Zunawe on October 28, 2012, 11:07:52 AM
Yes, but when you get into the number of pokemon you need to battle to get up to max it makes a pretty big difference. Especially if you don't have the power items or 100,000 money to waste.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on October 28, 2012, 11:09:12 AM
I might as well then. Would it make a difference that my Pokemon are already lvl 30+ with no EV training? And does wearing a Macho brace quadruple the effects?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Zunawe on October 28, 2012, 11:11:16 AM
If they're already level 30+ I would suspect you already put enough EVs into them that what you do doesn't matter. And yes, they would quadruple. All EV modifiers stack, and multiplication always goes after addition.
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on October 28, 2012, 07:22:17 PM
Beat white 2 today. Such a great game
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: the_last_sheikah on October 28, 2012, 07:26:35 PM
Quote from: Shadoninja on October 28, 2012, 07:22:17 PMBeat white 2 today. Such a great game
Please tell me the hand-holding stops after the third gym, it's starting to piss me off.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on October 28, 2012, 07:29:26 PM
It does, I'm pretty sure.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on October 28, 2012, 07:59:29 PM
Quote from: the_last_sheikah on October 28, 2012, 07:26:35 PMPlease tell me the hand-holding stops after the third gym, it's starting to piss me off.
I think so.

Anyone else enjoying that pokestar studio thing? I may or may not have spent an hour or two creating movies.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on October 28, 2012, 08:01:54 PM
Finally had time to play again, and I just got th 8th badge.

Quote from: Shadoninja on October 28, 2012, 07:59:29 PMI think so.

Anyone else enjoying that pokestar studio thing? I may or may not have spent an hour or two creating movies.

Pokestar is pretty cool. Much better than Musicals anyway. And the special animation you can get from those is really sweet.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 29, 2012, 05:28:03 AM
Shado--Wasn't the final act with White Kyurem awesome?!?!?!?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: MoboMoga on October 29, 2012, 06:44:41 PM
SPOILER, HIGHLIGHT TEXT IF WANTING TO SEE.
Didn't get BW2, but do you catch White/Black Kyurem? I do know something about Ghestis having Kyruem and combining BW mascots with Kyurem, but does the player catch it later on?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: MoboMoga on October 29, 2012, 06:46:03 PM
DOUBLE POST And what is this Pokerus thingy, I don't remember the feature when playing Platinum.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on October 29, 2012, 06:48:52 PM
Thats because its rarer than shiny Pokemon (according to the internet). As said above, it basically doubles EV intakes
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on October 29, 2012, 06:50:15 PM
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on October 29, 2012, 06:48:52 PMThats because its rarer than shiny Pokemon (according to the internet). As said above, it basically doubles EV intakes
In Platinum, I got Pokerus on, I believe, Diagla. ;)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 29, 2012, 07:18:41 PM
MoboMoga, EDIT OR DELETE YOUR POST as it contains spoilers.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: MoboMoga on October 29, 2012, 08:47:59 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on October 29, 2012, 07:18:41 PMMoboMoga, EDIT OR DELETE YOUR POST as it contains spoilers.

Sorry, I edited it. Tell me if it's still visible.

Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on October 29, 2012, 06:50:15 PMIn Platinum, I got Pokerus on, I believe, Diagla. ;)

Did the game tell you that you had Pokerus? Or is it sort of a transfer process thing from Gen IV to V?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on October 29, 2012, 09:02:53 PM
Quote from: MoboMoga on October 29, 2012, 08:47:59 PMSorry, I edited it. Tell me if it's still visible.

Did the game tell you that you had Pokerus? Or is it sort of a transfer process thing from Gen IV to V?
1: It's still visible, although it hurts my eyes without highlighting it. :P

2: No, I found out later.  You have to check the status menu on the Pokemon, I believe.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 30, 2012, 04:01:25 AM
Nurse at a Pokemon Center will tell you after you heal a Pokemon with Pokerus. I got it in Diamond, I believe. And I still have some in Platinum.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on October 30, 2012, 10:50:12 AM
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on October 29, 2012, 06:48:52 PMThats because its rarer than shiny Pokemon (according to the internet). As said above, it basically doubles EV intakes

It's not. You have 1/3000something chance of finding the Pokerus, whereas you have 1/8192 chance of finding a shiny Pokémon.

Also I finally finished White 2 yesterday. I can finally start breeding stuff :3
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on October 30, 2012, 11:37:51 AM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on October 30, 2012, 04:01:25 AMNurse at a Pokemon Center will tell you after you heal a Pokemon with Pokerus. I got it in Diamond, I believe. And I still have some in Platinum.
I spread it to my SoulSilver game through the event Pichu. :P
And then, I believe I spread it to White...? I'll have to check again...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: fingerz on October 30, 2012, 01:48:39 PM
Yeah, I remember all my Pokemon in Emerald version got it but I didn't even know what it was! I was like: "Why arent they healing from that weird status!?!?" XD
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on October 30, 2012, 02:42:53 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on October 30, 2012, 10:50:12 AMIt's not. You have 1/3000something chance of finding the Pokerus, whereas you have 1/8192 chance of finding a shiny Pokémon.

Also I finally finished White 2 yesterday. I can finally start breeding stuff :3
I should really look at more than one website then :P Serebii says its a 1 in 21,178.6 chance, but that does seem kinda ridiculous.

And you cant breed until the game is over?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on October 30, 2012, 05:34:24 PM
When youre training in a cave and half the Pokemon have the "Sturdy" ability  (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on October 30, 2012, 05:49:06 PM
oh god sturdy

bad memories of my first time playing black

SO MANY BOLDORE
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on October 30, 2012, 06:10:34 PM
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on October 30, 2012, 02:42:53 PMI should really look at more than one website then :P Serebii says its a 1 in 21,178.6 chance, but that does seem kinda ridiculous.

And you cant breed until the game is over?
Serebii's the worst pokemon website there is.

And I could, but if I did I wouldn't play the game at all so I wanted to finish it first.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on October 30, 2012, 06:11:43 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on October 30, 2012, 06:10:34 PMSerebii's the worst pokemon website there is.

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Farumi.crims0n.us%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F02%2Fall-your-base-300x190.jpg&hash=9dad2ae9efb1c87fadeb85f5e1d16c5a13080b68)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on October 30, 2012, 06:12:29 PM
They're great for updates or new news stories (ex/ events, new releases, etc.) but I don't ever use them for actual gameplay.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 30, 2012, 06:13:15 PM
@bds its the truth, it's definitely the worst for information.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on October 30, 2012, 06:20:18 PM
Does anyone know why Gamefreak stopped having Pokemon follow your character during overworld gameplay? I thought it was really popular in HG/SS but we never saw it again.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on October 30, 2012, 06:24:13 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on October 30, 2012, 06:13:15 PM@bds its the truth, it's definitely the worst for information.

Exactly. Bulbapedia >>>>>>>>>> Serebii.

Quote from: spitllama on October 30, 2012, 06:20:18 PMDoes anyone know why Gamefreak stopped having Pokemon follow your character during overworld gameplay? I thought it was really popular in HG/SS but we never saw it again.

I don't know either. I loved the feature, it was cool to see you Pokémon follow you, and it was nice that the sprite could be shiny as well.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on October 30, 2012, 06:44:27 PM
Quote from: MoboMoga on October 29, 2012, 06:46:03 PMDOUBLE POST And what is this Pokerus thingy, I don't remember the feature when playing Platinum.
Shoulda taught your pokemanz safe sex.

Quote from: SlowPokemon on October 29, 2012, 05:28:03 AMShado--Wasn't the final act with White Kyurem awesome?!?!?!?
Yeah it was awesome.

Quote from: Bubbles7689 on October 30, 2012, 05:34:24 PMWhen youre training in a cave and half the Pokemon have the "Sturdy" ability  (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
That's why you don't train in caves unless you fight pokemon from dust clouds.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on October 30, 2012, 06:59:37 PM
Quote from: Shadoninja on October 30, 2012, 06:44:27 PMThat's why you don't train in caves unless you fight pokemon from dust clouds.
Giant Chasm, and nearly every Victory Road would like to debate that...

But then again, Sturdy's new function was only introduced in Generation 5, so only only Giant Chasm really counts...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on October 31, 2012, 09:15:43 AM
Who's available for some Pokemon Showdown 8 PM EST? I made a team that has lots of Pokemon I like.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on October 31, 2012, 09:34:17 AM
Is it in Diamond? I would but Im in the midddle on an unfinished solo run on that game and I dont think Im ready to restart it or break the run.

EDIT: Wait, nvm. Trick-or-treating 8)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on October 31, 2012, 09:42:13 AM
No, it's this website/program you use to battle. You can make any kind of Pokemon team, meaning you don't have to train your Pokemon. And too bad :(
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on October 31, 2012, 10:01:58 AM
Finished my Squirtle solo run in Blue version!!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on October 31, 2012, 10:25:52 AM
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on October 31, 2012, 09:42:13 AMNo, it's this website/program you use to battle. You can make any kind of Pokemon team, meaning you don't have to train your Pokemon. And too bad :(
Really? Whats the website? I thought I was going tonight but theres been so many reschedulings i dont even know anymore

Quote from: spitllama on October 31, 2012, 10:01:58 AMFinished my Squirtle solo run in Blue version!!
I wish I had Blue  :(
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on October 31, 2012, 10:59:31 AM
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on October 31, 2012, 10:25:52 AMReally? Whats the website?

http://pokemonshowdown.com/
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on October 31, 2012, 11:05:13 AM
KABOOM (http://pokemonshowdown.com) After you've made a team, let's battle! :D

ninja'd :(

hey spit wanna battle
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on October 31, 2012, 11:11:02 AM
Ok Im making it now. I have no idea what Im filling in so this should be interesting :D (dont tell me what they are I wanna try it)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on October 31, 2012, 11:15:41 AM
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on October 31, 2012, 11:05:13 AMKABOOM (http://pokemonshowdown.com) After you've made a team, let's battle! :D

ninja'd :(

hey spit wanna battle
Building a team... I will battle once. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on October 31, 2012, 11:17:06 AM
Please do not make illegal teams.(= all EVs 252)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on October 31, 2012, 11:32:32 AM
You mean that even though it gives you 508 evs you only use 252?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on October 31, 2012, 11:35:05 AM
I mean use only the 508, not more. 252 is the maximum for one stat.

Please contact me when you wanna fight. Nickname: FSM-Reapr
Tell me your nicknames so I can identify you! :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on October 31, 2012, 11:57:08 AM
How do I contact you? And Im Bubbles7689 (surprise)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on October 31, 2012, 11:58:27 AM
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on October 31, 2012, 11:17:06 AMPlease do not make illegal teams.(= all EVs 252)

You can't make illegal teams on Pokemon Showdown, so there's nothing to worry about. And I might make a team if I ever feel like it =P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on October 31, 2012, 12:04:19 PM
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on October 31, 2012, 11:35:05 AMI mean use only the 508, not more. 252 is the maximum for one stat.

Please contact me when you wanna fight. Nickname: FSM-Reapr
Tell me your nicknames so I can identify you! :D
BlackDragonSlayer; I'm very lazy. :P

I didn't go into too much depth with my team, but...


...Ok, I'm ready. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Dude on October 31, 2012, 12:22:41 PM
So I'm breeding a Frillish in BW2

Frillish - #592 (Hardy)
Female (♀) Cursed Body
HP: 31
Att: 29
Def: 30
SpA: 29
SpD: 31
Speed: 10

YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH except for the speed, nature, and ability. But since it's not hacked, I'm happy with it. :D

Now, how to train it...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on October 31, 2012, 12:28:32 PM
Quote from: Dude on October 31, 2012, 12:22:41 PMSo I'm breeding a Frillish in BW2

Frillish - #592 (Hardy)
Female (♀) Cursed Body
HP: 31
Att: 29
Def: 30
SpA: 29
SpD: 31
Speed: 10

YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH except for the speed, nature, and ability. But since it's not cheated, I'm happy with it. :D
Speed is a very important skill; paired with Attack/Special Attack, you can quickly take out the opponent before they have much chance to deal heavy damage.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on October 31, 2012, 12:30:41 PM
^Except it doesn't matter too much since it's a Jellicent and Jellicent usually are used as tanks, and therefore don't really need any speed investment.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on October 31, 2012, 12:37:57 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on October 31, 2012, 12:30:41 PM^Except it doesn't matter too much since it's a Jellicent and Jellicent usually are used as tanks, and therefore don't really need any speed investment.
I love tanks; they can be great to drain HP from. :P Jellicent makes a good one since it has a 2x vulnerability to grass... ghost vulnerability opens up a whole new doorway...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Zunawe on October 31, 2012, 02:34:15 PM
Quote from: Dude on October 31, 2012, 12:22:41 PMSo I'm breeding a Frillish in BW2

Frillish - #592 (Hardy)
Female (♀) Cursed Body
HP: 31
Att: 29
Def: 30
SpA: 29
SpD: 31
Speed: 10

YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH except for the speed, nature, and ability. But since it's not hacked, I'm happy with it. :D

Now, how to train it...
Do want. Also, how did you find the IVs without leveling it up? The calculators I've seen require a reasonable difference in skills to be accurate.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on October 31, 2012, 02:43:19 PM
You can talk to someone (I really don't remember who and I don't feel like looking it up) and said person can tell you the IVs of your Pokemon.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Zunawe on October 31, 2012, 02:48:36 PM
Ah. I'm guessing that was introduced in B/W or B/W 2.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on October 31, 2012, 03:00:37 PM
Hmm no, I think it was there even in Emerald. I'm not sure, but I remember it being in Plat at least.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Zunawe on October 31, 2012, 05:43:35 PM
I haven't come across one in SS/HG. It could be that it wasn't included because it's a remake of a game before Emerald, but they've been pretty good about improving upon remakes and adding those sorts of features. I guess I'll search for it later.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on October 31, 2012, 05:58:02 PM
It's in the Battle Tower/Battle Frontier I think.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on November 01, 2012, 04:15:48 PM
Do I want a hasty or naive Genesect? I really feel like it doesn't matter, since Def and Sp. Def are the same. I'm mostly trying to decide if I'll encounter flamethrower or physical fighting moves more...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on November 01, 2012, 06:51:36 PM
Fighting moves won't give you much problem. Go with a Hasty, I have a feeling you'll have a tougher time with Fire types than with Fighting types, though with a 4x weakness it might not even be worth it. :/ idk
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on November 01, 2012, 06:59:37 PM
Hmmmmm okay. Hasty it is. Thanks.


Oh and side-note the title screen music (adaptation from B/W title screen music) is FANTASTIC
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on November 01, 2012, 07:25:27 PM
Yes. Yes it is.

The blaring brass theme at the beginning also plays during the Black Kyurem/White Kyurem battle theme :O
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on November 01, 2012, 07:26:11 PM
I've been playing Platinum again, and wow, Sinnoh music is really underrated... the route themes are so good!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on November 01, 2012, 07:31:27 PM
Sinnoh's music is amazing. Listen to the Galactic Boss music (Cyrus's battle theme, not Mars, etc.). Also Dialga/Palkia battle is badass.

Route themes are good too. I really like the music on routes 205, 206, 209, 217 and 225.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on November 01, 2012, 07:33:52 PM
:D Agreed, and 228 is amazing as well! I also really loved the Champion theme, wowie. And the credits music! And Giratina's battle theme.

And one of the best, the goddamn Frontier Brain music.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on November 01, 2012, 07:42:07 PM
That one is really catchy (and popular). All of the battle facilities in Platinum have great music. I love the casle music the best, but factory, arcade and hall are also great.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on November 01, 2012, 07:51:10 PM
Sinnoh's music was mostly meh.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on November 01, 2012, 07:55:17 PM
I really liked Sinnoh's music, but it's given a terrible representation within the game. You end up hearing the same annoying themes a bajillion times towards the beginning.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on November 01, 2012, 08:00:27 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on November 01, 2012, 07:55:17 PMI really liked Sinnoh's music, but it's given a terrible representation within the game. You end up hearing the same annoying themes a bajillion times towards the beginning.

I didn't like the DiPpaPit games. There were a few good pieces but the rest are just boring.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on November 01, 2012, 08:01:33 PM
I prefered the Orchestral peices in Gen III
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on November 01, 2012, 08:21:17 PM
Quote from: SocialFox on November 01, 2012, 08:01:33 PMI prefered the Orchestral peices in Gen III
Aressee probably had the best music of all the games.

Anyone else in love with the music of Aspertia City and that route theme before victory road (route 23?)?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on November 01, 2012, 10:48:38 PM
Aspertia City has beautiful music! Though I like route 22 over route 23, but both are great.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on November 02, 2012, 05:11:02 AM
Sinnoh games were my least favorite, for sure. I did like the music though. And the problem with the music in Ruby and Sapphire is that while the route/city themes were mostly great, the battle music was definitely lacking.

Route 23 really grows on you.

Also Lentimas Town is so catchy it shouldn't be legal.

Also, even though it's hard to stomach at first, I really like the Reversal Mountain theme in Black 2.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on November 02, 2012, 06:43:19 AM
Only better region soundtrack than Sinnoh is Johto. Sinnoh is awesome as hell(I love Champion theme, Gym Leader battle, Cyrus battle, etc.) but Johto was the best. Nothing can even compete with that.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on November 02, 2012, 08:56:43 AM
All the main Pokemon soundtracks are phenomenal, I will disagree with anyone who says otherwise.

I think I'd rate them like this...

1. Unova
2. Sinnoh
3. Johto
4. Hoenn
5. Kanto
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on November 02, 2012, 09:00:48 AM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on November 02, 2012, 08:56:43 AMAll the main Pokemon soundtracks are phenomenal, I will disagree with anyone who says otherwise.

I think I'd rate them like this...

1. Unova
2. Sinnoh
3. Johto
4. Hoenn
5. Kanto
Kidding? Sinnoh rocks!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on November 02, 2012, 11:02:18 AM
I have it as number 2 of 5! That's really good :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on November 02, 2012, 12:55:34 PM
Hard to stomach? Why so? I fell in love with the music instantly.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on November 02, 2012, 03:27:56 PM
Slow, I think I might've misunderstood - I thought 1 was the lowest, since you had Unova there.. :)

I see them like this:
5. Unova - MOSTLY techno(especially BW2), but has a lot of good ones, like Route 10, Nimbasa City, Driftveil City, and the battle themes
4. Johto - MOSTLY music that you don't really remember (sorry, this is very personal - I didn't play much Johto)
3. Hoenn - trumpets!! (there isn't one theme that could be better!)
2. Kanto - So original it deserves it's own genre
1. Sinnoh - Jazz Jazz Jazz, and they're all masterpieces!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on November 02, 2012, 03:43:29 PM
I see them like this:
1. Unova - Awesome
1. Johto - IT WON'T COME OUT OF MY HEAD
1. Hoenn - Wait do I actually know any hoenn music
1. Kanto - Yeah, it's pretty amazing
1. Sinnoh - Because it really gives the towns atmosphere. Veilstone would not be the same without the music, along with some other places.

but yeah, they're all number 1.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on November 02, 2012, 04:15:30 PM
Rating music by regions, now?

1. Kanto - Memorable music and catchy tunes all over. Full of atmosphere, even though there is only one instrument playing. Easily the most melodic music of the series. Who can forget the go-happy Route 1, the epic Route 11, the awesome Trainer Battle theme, or the cozyness of Celadon City?
2. Hoenn - Melodic, atmospheric and with instruments. Route 103 gives you this "You're doing great!" feeling. The Battle Frontier tune shouts out that this is the gathering place for the best of the best. The PokéMart tune makes me want to shop my arms off. Pokémon Contest sets you right in the mood. And so on.
3. Orre - Pyrite Town. The Under. Gateon Port. Krabby Club. The Trainer Battles. Battle Mode menu. So many great and atmospheric tunes, all vividly orchestrated. They really worked with the setting of the game too. Rogues are fighting rogues to survive in this harsh region, and the music reflects the roughness of everything.
4. Unova - Many good pieces here, and dynamic music. Village Bridge and Accumula town are good in their own right, but become stunning when all instruments are applied. There are some downers (*coughNimbasa*), but overall a solid soundtrack.
5. Johto - Don't get me wrong, I really like the Johto music, but overall it's slightly less memorable than the others. The Top 5 is very tight. By all means, Johto music is very close to the Kanto music, which is my favourite. Sort of more like the same, and there are many great pieces, but I prefer the others over this, overall. Perhaps 4 and 5 can be swapped around some, or even share a spot. There are many great songs to be heard in Johto.


6. Sinnoh - LOOK HOW MANY INSTRUMENTS WE HAVE!! AND WE CAN HAVE THEM ALL PLAY AT THE SAME TIME!!!!1. Seriously, though, the music of Sinnoh is, with a few excellent exceptions, flat out forgettable. The Route and town music is too flat, a cacaphony of instruments spewing out mediocrity. Route 201 is fine, 209 is beautiful, the rest are forgettable. Where are the melodies? Where are the themes? The battle music is all right, but hardly worth paying attention to (apart from the battle music of certain legendaries). There is no middle ground in Sinnoh, the songs are either great or forgettable. Sinnoh Underground is epic, Pokémon Center (night) is lovely, but on the other hand you have stuff like Route 216 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpdKxBoF-ko), which goes from calm and soothing to jumbling cacophony around the 50 second mark and never turns back. Or Route 225 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsB8etSqZBw), which has a serious identidy crisis. What is this, a game corner? What landscape is conveyed in this song? Where are we supposed to be? The songs that work best in this game are the ones where the instruments work together to produce a good theme, and stick to that theme throughout the song, rather than rambling around on their own as they seem to do in most of the tracks.

Sorry for the overly long Sinnoh section, but seeing as everybody seems to like it for some reason, I felt like I had to explain why I slate it so much.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: MoboMoga on November 02, 2012, 04:48:33 PM
Quote from: Cobraroll on November 02, 2012, 04:15:30 PM6. Sinnoh - LOOK HOW MANY INSTRUMENTS WE HAVE!! AND WE CAN HAVE THEM ALL PLAY AT THE SAME TIME!!!!1. Seriously, though, the music of Sinnoh is, with a few excellent exceptions, flat out forgettable. The Route and town music is too flat, a cacaphony of instruments spewing out mediocrity. Route 201 is fine, 209 is beautiful, the rest are forgettable. Where are the melodies? Where are the themes? The battle music is all right, but hardly worth paying attention to (apart from the battle music of certain legendaries). There is no middle ground in Sinnoh, the songs are either great or forgettable. Sinnoh Underground is epic, Pokémon Center (night) is lovely, but on the other hand you have stuff like Route 216 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpdKxBoF-ko), which goes from calm and soothing to jumbling cacophony around the 50 second mark and never turns back. Or Route 225 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsB8etSqZBw), which has a serious identidy crisis. What is this, a game corner? What landscape is conveyed in this song? Where are we supposed to be? The songs that work best in this game are the ones where the instruments work together to produce a good theme, and stick to that theme throughout the song, rather than rambling around on their own as they seem to do in most of the tracks.

Sorry for the overly long Sinnoh section, but seeing as everybody seems to like it for some reason, I felt like I had to explain why I slate it so much.

Sinnoh is something you have to be used to. Because a lot of the stuff was related to jazz, it had intricate rhythms which MAKE it seem like as if it's cacophony, but as you start to identify each instrument's role in the music, you start to realize that every instrument is curcial. Route 226's bells contribute greatly to the atmosphere, and the other instruments in the background help contribute to the vivacity of the piece. 225 isn't one of my favorite pieces, but let's say you took out a melody in the background. All that's left would be the main melody and drums, much like previous generations. Which is why it's extremely hard to create a solo sheet for Sinnosh soundtracks without losing its feel. Here (http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=4406.msg170220#msg170220) is the link for Amity Square. In my perspective, the solo loses much of it's liveliness, and it's not that the arranger is bad. There are just so many crucial stuff in the music that help contribute to the feel. The duet is just amazing. Also take Mt. Coronet. You can feel the vigor and energy in the music as it continues during the music.

I didn't mean to offend you, if it did. I know that it was your opinion, but I just thought I would post why I don't belive in that.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on November 02, 2012, 05:27:58 PM
Sinnoh was a VERY iffy region in many people's minds, but in all honesty, I still love its soundtrack. So much.

I don't know if I can rate the music by regions but I'll try...

1. Hoenn. Just. God. Hoenn. Hoenn's music was gorgeous. Each new song was a breath of fresh air, the surfing music was like a waltz on the ocean, the bike music felt like an exhilarating chase down a slope. The legendary battle music was perfect, just ALL of the music was perfect I don't know what else to say
1. Unova. Wowie, Unova blew me away! I was impressed with a lot of the music, especially with both Opelucid City songs. And the elite 4 theme! Iris' theme in BW2! The new towns and places! The soundtrack was just so GOOD that it really deserves more credit. How else can you craft a perfect theme for Castelia, or the pulse-pounding E4 theme?
1. Johto. Man, Johto... the most memorable tunes. And in the remakes, the music was even better. Johto is really just out there with its music. Everyone loves it. Everyone knows it. It's catchy, upbeat - the flowy surf theme, the upbeat bike, the amazing champion theme... 
1. Sinnoh! Man, Sinnoh music is something neat. It's different, lots of instruments and sounds everywhere... but it's really really good. We have the upbeat tune of route 201, the chilling Mt. Coronet, the jazzy route themes... the friggin Battle Frontier Brain theme, Giratina's battle theme, ALL legendary battle themes... Sinnoh was so different, but that's why I like it.
1. oops kanto is last?? well... not really, since all numbers here are one. Don't get me wrong, I love Kanto's music a lot. We have all those lovely originals, but the remixes did NOT do them justice in the remakes in my opinion. The original 8-bit tunes are near and dear to my heart, but for my preferences, it doesn't rank super high with the others.

and that's just my two cents!
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on November 02, 2012, 06:21:54 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on November 02, 2012, 05:27:58 PMSinnoh was a VERY iffy region in many people's minds, but in all honesty, I still love its soundtrack. So much.

I don't know if I can rate the music by regions but I'll try...

1. Hoenn. Just. God. Hoenn. Hoenn's music was gorgeous. Each new song was a breath of fresh air, the surfing music was like a waltz on the ocean, the bike music felt like an exhilarating chase down a slope. The legendary battle music was perfect, just ALL of the music was perfect I don't know what else to say
1. Unova. Wowie, Unova blew me away! I was impressed with a lot of the music, especially with both Opelucid City songs. And the elite 4 theme! Iris' theme in BW2! The new towns and places! The soundtrack was just so GOOD that it really deserves more credit. How else can you craft a perfect theme for Castelia, or the pulse-pounding E4 theme?
1. Johto. Man, Johto... the most memorable tunes. And in the remakes, the music was even better. Johto is really just out there with its music. Everyone loves it. Everyone knows it. It's catchy, upbeat - the flowy surf theme, the upbeat bike, the amazing champion theme... 
1. Sinnoh! Man, Sinnoh music is something neat. It's different, lots of instruments and sounds everywhere... but it's really really good. We have the upbeat tune of route 201, the chilling Mt. Coronet, the jazzy route themes... the friggin Battle Frontier Brain theme, Giratina's battle theme, ALL legendary battle themes... Sinnoh was so different, but that's why I like it.
1. oops kanto is last?? well... not really, since all numbers here are one. Don't get me wrong, I love Kanto's music a lot. We have all those lovely originals, but the remixes did NOT do them justice in the remakes in my opinion. The original 8-bit tunes are near and dear to my heart, but for my preferences, it doesn't rank super high with the others.

and that's just my two cents!
Quote from: Jub3r7 on November 02, 2012, 03:43:29 PMI see them like this:
1. Unova - Awesome
1. Johto - IT WON'T COME OUT OF MY HEAD
1. Hoenn - Wait do I actually know any hoenn music
1. Kanto - Yeah, it's pretty amazing
1. Sinnoh - Because it really gives the towns atmosphere. Veilstone would not be the same without the music, along with some other places.

but yeah, they're all number 1.
this^

And in response to this hubbub of pokémon music, I've posted a soundtrack to my new story:
http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=4669.msg175401#msg175401
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on November 02, 2012, 08:54:31 PM
Just started playing Soulsilver.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on November 03, 2012, 05:18:25 AM
Quote from: Jub3r7 on November 02, 2012, 03:43:29 PMI see them like this:
1. Unova - Awesome
1. Johto - IT WON'T COME OUT OF MY HEAD
1. Hoenn - Wait do I actually know any hoenn music
1. Kanto - Yeah, it's pretty amazing
1. Sinnoh - Because it really gives the towns atmosphere. Veilstone would not be the same without the music, along with some other places.

but yeah, they're all number 1.
I pretty much agree with this, besides Kanto.

I said main series games, obviously excluding Orre. But other than that, I really disagree with almost everything cobra said about Sinnoh, and agree with most of what he said about the others. (FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE WHO HATES NIMBASA CITY)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: MoboMoga on November 03, 2012, 04:20:21 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on November 03, 2012, 05:18:25 AMI pretty much agree with this, besides Kanto.

I said main series games, obviously excluding Orre. But other than that, I really disagree with almost everything cobra said about Sinnoh, and agree with most of what he said about the others. (FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE WHO HATES NIMBASA CITY)

I thought I was the only one who HATED Nimbasa..it just doesn't appeal to me. I hated it, and I still do, and I still will.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on November 03, 2012, 06:43:04 PM
Aw, I liked Nimbasa.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on November 03, 2012, 06:52:00 PM
I'm indifferent. It definitely gets that 'big city Broadway' feel and so it's fitting to the environment, but it was meh as a tune.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on November 03, 2012, 07:02:02 PM
My favorite town themes... Driftviel, Opelucid City (Black), Aspertia...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: MoboMoga on November 03, 2012, 07:37:43 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on November 03, 2012, 07:02:02 PMMy favorite town themes... Driftviel, Opelucid City (Black), Aspertia...

I can't think of much towns right now, but for me it's Valor Lakefront. So peaceful.  :)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on November 03, 2012, 08:33:23 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on November 02, 2012, 05:11:02 AMSinnoh games were my least favorite, for sure. I did like the music though. And the problem with the music in Ruby and Sapphire is that while the route/city themes were mostly great, the battle music was definitely lacking.
The battle music was great in Aresee >: (
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on November 03, 2012, 09:20:34 PM
Maybe it's overexposure, but I don't really like the Wild Pokemon Battle at all, and I'm not crazy about the Ancient Pokemon Battle either. The Frontier Brain music isn't as good as the one in Platinum/HGSS.

I love the Aqua and Magma themes as well as a lot of the other battle music, but you have some that are just kind of too chaotic to really be enjoyable (besides building tension). Like the Regis theme is good, but it'll never be something I look forward to listening to.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on November 04, 2012, 01:17:31 AM
Eterna Forest is beautiful! .. y'know, Sinnoh...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: MoboMoga on November 04, 2012, 09:24:38 AM
Quote from: Jompa on November 04, 2012, 01:17:31 AMEterna Forest is beautiful! .. y'know, Sinnoh...

That stuff is great, so peaceful, esp. with the rays of sunlight in the forest.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on November 04, 2012, 10:23:26 AM
brb, I'll arrange it
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on November 04, 2012, 10:38:22 AM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on November 03, 2012, 09:20:34 PMLike the Regis theme is good, but it'll never be something I look forward to listening to.
I read that as "Regis" from Regis and Kelly. Can you imagine that being his theme song? :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on November 04, 2012, 10:39:15 AM
Battle! Regirock - Regice - Registeel

Battle! Regis and Kelly

I think we know which one is better.

*cough*
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on November 04, 2012, 10:57:21 AM
done - this is a pretty confusing song - I was an eight behind in my head, when I listened to it - but i realized when arranging it what was intentional with the song
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/75726060/Eterna%20Forest%20piano%20duet.mus
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on November 04, 2012, 11:02:04 AM
Did you really just arrange that in a half hour? XD
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on November 04, 2012, 11:04:57 AM
Okay, I began 11:00 ish - so it's been like 9 hours XD you got me
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on November 04, 2012, 07:34:35 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on November 03, 2012, 09:20:34 PMMaybe it's overexposure, but I don't really like the Wild Pokemon Battle at all, and I'm not crazy about the Ancient Pokemon Battle either. The Frontier Brain music isn't as good as the one in Platinum/HGSS.

I love the Aqua and Magma themes as well as a lot of the other battle music, but you have some that are just kind of too chaotic to really be enjoyable (besides building tension). Like the Regis theme is good, but it'll never be something I look forward to listening to.
I can see what you mean on Battle! Ancient Pokemon. It's pretty epic but feels like it's missing something.

Quote from: Bubbles7689 on November 04, 2012, 10:38:22 AMI read that as "Regis" from Regis and Kelly. Can you imagine that being his theme song? :D

Regis used $1000 question

Contestant used Phone a Friend
...but it failed.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on November 04, 2012, 08:28:08 PM
All right dumb question so bear with me:

Is there any way to get pokes from R/B/Y to Gen III and onward? Maybe through FR/LG?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on November 04, 2012, 08:30:06 PM
I don't see a super possible way of doing that, no :/
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on November 04, 2012, 08:32:55 PM
Quote from: spitllama on November 04, 2012, 08:28:08 PMAll right dumb question so bear with me:

Is there any way to get pokes from R/B/Y to Gen III and onward? Maybe through FR/LG?
R/B/Y and Gen III are incompatible. You'd have to transfer from FireRed/LeafGreen.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: dahans on November 05, 2012, 05:37:14 AM
Quote from: Shadoninja on November 04, 2012, 08:32:55 PMR/B/Y and Gen III are incompatible. You'd have to transfer from FireRed/LeafGreen.

Ahhhhhh FireRed... I really should buy that game...!
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on November 05, 2012, 06:13:35 AM
Darn :( wanted my Squirtle
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on November 06, 2012, 12:17:16 PM
Does Destiny Knot expire after use?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on November 06, 2012, 12:25:06 PM
Nop
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on November 06, 2012, 07:33:45 PM
Quote from: dahans on November 05, 2012, 05:37:14 AMAhhhhhh FireRed... I really should buy that game...!
Yeah FireRed's pretty cool. I lost mine a long time ago.
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on November 08, 2012, 06:30:20 PM
I don't know if someone's already done this, but those moviemons should be added into one of the battle simulators with custom movesets.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on November 09, 2012, 04:43:49 AM
I think there was a project on Smogon about it once...

Though, seeing as we only see a select few moves used by every movie-mon, it's impossible to give it a "canonical" movepool without restraining it to moves seen in movies only.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on November 09, 2012, 06:25:37 AM
Pokedex 3D Pro looks really cool, but that price tag....yeeeeesh.....
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on November 09, 2012, 02:31:25 PM
Yeah. The price tag ;A;
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on November 10, 2012, 07:21:35 AM
I don't really understand why it's so expensive.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on November 10, 2012, 07:25:27 AM
15 euros?! wtf :( It's like 22 USD!!! D:<
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BonusPwnage on November 10, 2012, 07:27:38 AM
What do you mean? Euros aren't worth the same amount of U.S. dollars. !5 euros is about 19 U.S. dollars, so it's actually a little cheaper in the U.S. ;)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on November 10, 2012, 07:35:55 AM
Quote from: BonusPwnage on November 10, 2012, 07:27:38 AMWhat do you mean? Euros aren't worth the same amount of U.S. dollars. !5 euros is about 19 U.S. dollars, so it's actually a little cheaper in the U.S. ;)
-.- I know.

...*looks euro-dollar*
HOLY SHIT

But if you exchange money from dollar to euro it would have to be more than 19 dollars(because we have humongous taxes) ;)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BonusPwnage on November 10, 2012, 07:38:03 AM
But it's really not that big of a deal. You may get ripped off a little, but it's not like a difference of $100 or anything.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on November 10, 2012, 07:43:07 AM
You're getting ripped off just by buying the damn thing.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on November 10, 2012, 07:44:13 AM
The 3D models may be nice but god damn it's not worth it at all.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BonusPwnage on November 10, 2012, 07:47:30 AM
Well, that's one of the reasons why I don't have it.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on November 10, 2012, 01:58:16 PM
Ok, world, answer me this: How is a Pokemon region governed? What's their government like? For instance, if it weren't the Elite 4/Champion, would there be like a governor/president or something?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on November 10, 2012, 01:59:51 PM
Quote from: Kman96 on November 10, 2012, 01:58:16 PMOk, world, answer me this: How is a Pokemon region governed? What's their government like? For instance, if it weren't the Elite 4/Champion, would there be like a governor/president or something?
I'd think that the towns and cities would be loosely bonded together, almost not even a "region."
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on November 10, 2012, 03:09:58 PM
There probably is a governing body, but it's not shown in the animé because it's irrelevant, and the games do not show the world to scale and thus omit the unnecessary parts.

After all, somebody must be employing the police (at least in Kanto, which is shown to have several police departments) and greenlighting infrastructure projects.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on November 10, 2012, 03:21:28 PM
The Pokémon anime is just Ash's coma anyways, so it wouldn't really matter what's shown after episode 1..
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on November 10, 2012, 10:23:24 PM
Quote from: Kman96 on November 10, 2012, 01:58:16 PMOk, world, answer me this: How is a Pokemon region governed? What's their government like? For instance, if it weren't the Elite 4/Champion, would there be like a governor/president or something?
I could say:
IT'S JUST A GAME!!! EVERYTHING DOESN'T HAVE TO MAKE SENSE!!!

What I will say:
idk, I think the Champion is in charge of the entire nation and Gym Leaders are mayors.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on November 10, 2012, 10:35:55 PM
and towns/cities that don't have mayors?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on November 10, 2012, 10:39:54 PM
They are like small villages in our world; they have no one.
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on November 10, 2012, 10:47:26 PM
Well...if there's nothing official, I'm going to make it up myself. Sound good?

...it's for my story.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on November 10, 2012, 10:50:07 PM
I personally think the champion/elite four/gym leaders have nothing to do with the government of a region/city/town. They definitely have heavy political influence (ex/ Brock likes this so our town has this!) but not "control" as far as I can tell. I think there's a governing body behind the scenes that the franchise just hasn't found important to note.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on November 10, 2012, 10:51:39 PM
Oh right, like that secret agent in Platinum!
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on November 10, 2012, 10:52:18 PM
Quote from: spitllama on November 10, 2012, 10:50:07 PMI personally think the champion/elite four/gym leaders have nothing to do with the government of a region/city/town. They definitely have heavy political influence (ex/ Brock likes this so our town has this!) but not "control" as far as I can tell. I think there's a governing body behind the scenes that the franchise just hasn't found important to note.
^^^^This is what I'm going for/talking about.

My question is, who would it be? A president? A governor? Is it a legislature? Anarchy? Monarchy?

EDIT:
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on November 10, 2012, 10:51:39 PMOh right, like that secret agent in Platinum!
Yes, he(Looker) was part of the International Police!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on November 10, 2012, 10:53:30 PM
A President, imo.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on November 10, 2012, 10:57:01 PM
I feel like its oligarchical and socialist. I imagine a "board" of figures in each region who use public funds to make goods like pokemon health care, bridges, etc available to your average 10 yr old adventurer.

Of course I have no backing for that, it's my hypothetical "what if"
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on November 10, 2012, 11:00:22 PM
Quote from: spitllama on November 10, 2012, 10:57:01 PMI feel like its oligarchical and socialist. I imagine a "board" of figures in each region who use public funds to make goods like pokemon health care, bridges, etc available to your average 10 yr old adventurer.

Of course I have no backing for that, it's my hypothetical "what if"
OMG.
Spitllama I am loving every word you are saying. I'm going to PM you something right now, that your governmentally-fit brain might be able to help me with.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on November 11, 2012, 03:11:53 AM
I think the Pokémon Centers and Marts are funded by fees and taxing.

A Poké Dollar is worth next to nothing. You need a million of them just to buy a bicycle. Just the wage for the nurses and Poké Mart clerks must be in the hundreds of millions per year, way more money than you will ever see in the games.

So, who pays this kind of money so trainers can have their adventure? My guess, the trainers themselves. And, of course, sponsors. At the beginning of the journey, I guess your mother and the regional Pokémon professor shell out a bit for registration, insurance, such things. After all, it's your tenth birthday, you've shown interest in Pokémon for years, and have expressed a desire for being a Trainer since you learned to speak. They see potential in you.

You leave your home town and fight trainers. The losing trainer in a battle has to pay a certain amount of money to the winner. However, as you'll see throughout the games, you end up giving out way more money when you lose, than you get when you win. Isn't that unfair? No, the opposing trainers lose as much too. However, most of it goes into funding your adventure. Somebody have to pay for Poké Center usage and subsidized items. As you're a registered Adventurer, you get these services for free or dirt cheap, but you still have to pay a small tax whenever money is transferred to you. And as you notice, you won't see much to the money you're paid for things you sell, either. Nuggets, for instance, are probably worth way more than p5000, but the remaining sum goes to the governing body.

Later on, you're shown to beat Gym Leaders. You appear on TV. You're fighting crime, participating in Contests or Musicals, or even in movies. You never notice it in-game, but sponsors donate quite a bit to fund your adventuring after a while. There's a reason why your mother doesn't have to leave the house, you know. As long as you continue being a public figure, nice to the people you meet and dutiful to the mission given to you by the Pokémon Professor, they will pay the monthly fees for your unlimited Poké Center usage, and you will still pay Adventurer's prices in the shops. At the point of your challenge of the Elite Four, even the insurance company will probably pay you more than you ever pay them. Your mom and the professor take care of the paperwork, and perhaps you'll end up quite rich later on. After all, all the time of your adventure, you're underage. You're allowed to keep a maximum amount of Poké Dollars on your person. There is big money in your adventure, but at the moment, it shouldn't be your primary concern. The games omit all that because they show the world through the eyes of a kid. Of course he wouldn't pay much attention to the economy.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on November 11, 2012, 03:16:45 AM
lol I think that bicycle guy was trying to rip you off.

I would say a Poke Dollar nowadays is 0.10 USD.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on November 11, 2012, 03:21:43 AM
Quote from: Cobraroll on November 11, 2012, 03:11:53 AMI think the Pokémon Centers and Marts are funded by fees and taxing.

A Poké Dollar is worth next to nothing. You need a million of them just to buy a bicycle. Just the wage for the nurses and Poké Mart clerks must be in the hundreds of millions per year, way more money than you will ever see in the games.

So, who pays this kind of money so trainers can have their adventure? My guess, the trainers themselves. And, of course, sponsors. At the beginning of the journey, I guess your mother and the regional Pokémon professor shell out a bit for registration, insurance, such things. After all, it's your tenth birthday, you've shown interest in Pokémon for years, and have expressed a desire for being a Trainer since you learned to speak. They see potential in you.

You leave your home town and fight trainers. The losing trainer in a battle has to pay a certain amount of money to the winner. However, as you'll see throughout the games, you end up giving out way more money when you lose, than you get when you win. Isn't that unfair? No, the opposing trainers lose as much too. However, most of it goes into funding your adventure. Somebody have to pay for Poké Center usage and subsidized items. As you're a registered Adventurer, you get these services for free or dirt cheap, but you still have to pay a small tax whenever money is transferred to you. And as you notice, you won't see much to the money you're paid for things you sell, either. Nuggets, for instance, are probably worth way more than p5000, but the remaining sum goes to the governing body.

Later on, you're shown to beat Gym Leaders. You appear on TV. You're fighting crime, participating in Contests or Musicals, or even in movies. You never notice it in-game, but sponsors donate quite a bit to fund your adventuring after a while. There's a reason why your mother doesn't have to leave the house, you know. As long as you continue being a public figure, nice to the people you meet and dutiful to the mission given to you by the Pokémon Professor, they will pay the monthly fees for your unlimited Poké Center usage, and you will still pay Adventurer's prices in the shops. At the point of your challenge of the Elite Four, even the insurance company will probably pay you more than you ever pay them. Your mom and the professor take care of the paperwork, and perhaps you'll end up quite rich later on. After all, all the time of your adventure, you're underage. You're allowed to keep a maximum amount of Poké Dollars on your person. There is big money in your adventure, but at the moment, it shouldn't be your primary concern. The games omit all that because they show the world through the eyes of a kid. Of course he wouldn't pay much attention to the economy.
Cobra, I love you! You are the smartest person ever, and we should all be your slaves.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: fabbemannen on November 11, 2012, 07:51:17 AM
Quote from: Cobraroll on November 11, 2012, 03:11:53 AMI think the Pokémon Centers and Marts are funded by fees and taxing.

A Poké Dollar is worth next to nothing. You need a million of them just to buy a bicycle. Just the wage for the nurses and Poké Mart clerks must be in the hundreds of millions per year, way more money than you will ever see in the games.

So, who pays this kind of money so trainers can have their adventure? My guess, the trainers themselves. And, of course, sponsors. At the beginning of the journey, I guess your mother and the regional Pokémon professor shell out a bit for registration, insurance, such things. After all, it's your tenth birthday, you've shown interest in Pokémon for years, and have expressed a desire for being a Trainer since you learned to speak. They see potential in you.

You leave your home town and fight trainers. The losing trainer in a battle has to pay a certain amount of money to the winner. However, as you'll see throughout the games, you end up giving out way more money when you lose, than you get when you win. Isn't that unfair? No, the opposing trainers lose as much too. However, most of it goes into funding your adventure. Somebody have to pay for Poké Center usage and subsidized items. As you're a registered Adventurer, you get these services for free or dirt cheap, but you still have to pay a small tax whenever money is transferred to you. And as you notice, you won't see much to the money you're paid for things you sell, either. Nuggets, for instance, are probably worth way more than p5000, but the remaining sum goes to the governing body.

Later on, you're shown to beat Gym Leaders. You appear on TV. You're fighting crime, participating in Contests or Musicals, or even in movies. You never notice it in-game, but sponsors donate quite a bit to fund your adventuring after a while. There's a reason why your mother doesn't have to leave the house, you know. As long as you continue being a public figure, nice to the people you meet and dutiful to the mission given to you by the Pokémon Professor, they will pay the monthly fees for your unlimited Poké Center usage, and you will still pay Adventurer's prices in the shops. At the point of your challenge of the Elite Four, even the insurance company will probably pay you more than you ever pay them. Your mom and the professor take care of the paperwork, and perhaps you'll end up quite rich later on. After all, all the time of your adventure, you're underage. You're allowed to keep a maximum amount of Poké Dollars on your person. There is big money in your adventure, but at the moment, it shouldn't be your primary concern. The games omit all that because they show the world through the eyes of a kid. Of course he wouldn't pay much attention to the economy.
I watched The Truman Show yesterday and this reminds me way too much of it
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BonusPwnage on November 11, 2012, 01:42:35 PM
Good for you, Cobra! Reading between the lines...or pixels...or playing between the pixels...you get what I mean!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on November 16, 2012, 08:34:31 PM
Facing the Elite Four and Champion with a team composed of a single type.
Using four since I'm lazy and because I can't use challenge mode. All level 70.

here's the plan for Fire

Volcarona (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Flame Body
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Flamethrower
- Bug Buzz
- Quiver Dance
- Roost/Psychic

Chandelure (F) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Flame Body
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Flamethrower
- Energy Ball
- Shadow Ball
- Psychic

Arcanine (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Close Combat
- ExtremeSpeed
- Outrage/Wild Charge
- Crunch

Charizard (M) @ Muscle Band
Trait: Blaze
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Flare Blitz
- Earthquake
- Aerial Ace
- Crunch/Dragon Claw/Outrage
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on November 16, 2012, 08:38:19 PM
Maybe replace Outrage with Wild Charge on Arcanine. But yeah, the team is Roz approved :3
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on November 16, 2012, 08:40:08 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on November 16, 2012, 08:38:19 PMMaybe replace Outrage with Wild Charge on Arcanine. But yeah, the team is Roz approved :3
Added as an option. I don't know if I'll be able to handle Iris. I'll change it if it ends up being useless.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on November 16, 2012, 08:48:25 PM
May not mean too much but Nebbles stamp of approval!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on November 16, 2012, 08:50:35 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on November 16, 2012, 08:48:25 PMMay not mean too much but Nebbles stamp of approval!
Means a lot to me :D.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on November 16, 2012, 09:21:33 PM
BDS approved. Just a third opinion. :)
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on November 17, 2012, 01:33:02 PM
*spoilers for B/W2*

I arrived at Driftveil City and spoke with Ex-Plasma Sage Rood. He offered me a Zorua and I didn't have an empty slot in my party. So I left, stuck a poke in the PC, and came back to a Zoroark that bumped into me and caused a flashback. Now there's no one in the building. How do I get N's Zorua now?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on November 17, 2012, 05:05:50 PM
Leave the room and re-enter.
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on November 17, 2012, 05:54:57 PM
I tried that. Nobody's there. :/
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on November 17, 2012, 06:12:53 PM
In the entire house? You left, then went back into the house and looked around?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on November 17, 2012, 06:28:24 PM
Correct. I went in, realized I needed a slot, left, came back, got the flashback, left the house again cause it was empty, walked back in, house was still empty.

Unfortunately I saved while I was in the house the first time. Sad day.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on November 17, 2012, 06:58:48 PM
Just continue with the story and come back later. You should be able to get it then.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on November 18, 2012, 08:27:42 AM
I quit playing easy mode in B2.

So I'm doing a nuzlocke run now on Challenge mode! :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BonusPwnage on November 18, 2012, 08:30:25 AM
They made different "modes" in BW2?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on November 18, 2012, 10:27:53 AM
Yeah, easy mode and challenge mode for each version. I plan on doing a challenge mode nuzlocke too in W2!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BonusPwnage on November 18, 2012, 10:28:39 AM
That sounds so cool!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on November 18, 2012, 01:10:23 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on November 18, 2012, 10:27:53 AMYeah, easy mode and challenge mode for each version. I plan on doing a challenge mode nuzlocke too in W2!
We should totally make nuzlocke LPs
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on November 18, 2012, 01:38:50 PM
But I have NO good way to record on my 3DS, and DS emulators lag a lot, so...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BonusPwnage on November 18, 2012, 01:39:43 PM
I don't know how, but a lot of LPers on YouTube have...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on November 18, 2012, 01:51:47 PM
Some use emulators, and there are possible capture cards for the DS... and Chuggaaconroy made up his own way to record from the system so he's like a fucking wizard or something I don't know
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BonusPwnage on November 18, 2012, 01:58:16 PM
Yeah, I was referring to Chuggaaconroy a little bit. I'm a huge fan. In fact, right now you're talking to one of the founders of his fan club.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on November 18, 2012, 02:03:39 PM
I have a huge fangirl crush on him so yeah :'D He's my all-time favorite LPer.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BonusPwnage on November 18, 2012, 02:04:39 PM
Do you have a Facebook? If you do, you can join!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on November 18, 2012, 02:05:52 PM
Yes, and I liked his official Facebook page ages ago. I kind of re-booted my Twitter in hopes of talking to him and it worked and he complimented my artwork once hehehe

ANYWAY

I would love to record my W2 Nuzlocke but I don't know how...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BonusPwnage on November 18, 2012, 02:08:32 PM
1. If you want to join, just come here: http://www.facebook.com/groups/173657002728322/?fref=ts
2. Wow! Maybe you should be, like, his "fan-art" person!
3. I can't help you there. I wasn't going to try to record let's plays until around May-ish.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on November 18, 2012, 02:15:21 PM
But other people always send him better art than mine :c

SuperSkarmory uses a camcorder for his DS Let's Plays, so I could try using a camera or something? If it's decent enough quality I'll do a test video, and if it's okay enough I'll just do that.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BonusPwnage on November 18, 2012, 02:19:24 PM
1. You never know, just try sending him something.
2. That sounds fine, but you're right; You should definitely do a test video first.
3. What does anything we're talking about have to do with "General Pokemon"?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on November 18, 2012, 02:31:00 PM
Well we are talking about Pokemon LPs now...

Nuzlocke challenge mode is my dream come true, yo. I'm tired of steamrolling through the games sometimes.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BonusPwnage on November 18, 2012, 02:40:22 PM
Oh my god, same. I feel like at times the games are way too easy.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on November 18, 2012, 02:51:34 PM
omg Nebbles we should combine our both LPs in one video and we could be talking in Skype while playing. Also I think a 3DS capture card is made, if I do recall, SullyPwnz uses one.

"Pokemon Black and White Nuzlocke Challenges feat. FSM-Reapr"
I like the sound of that :3
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BonusPwnage on November 18, 2012, 02:53:12 PM
*sniff sniff* Okay then, just leave me out of this. *Leaves the room, silently weeping*
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on November 18, 2012, 02:54:17 PM
Quote from: BonusPwnage on November 18, 2012, 02:53:12 PM*sniff sniff* Okay then, just leave me out of this. *Leaves the room, silently weeping*
We can be playing annoying background music every-so-often! :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on November 18, 2012, 03:01:13 PM
whoa whoa who said I was gonna have a co-op? XD Not yet, at least! Nuzlockes should be my own thing.

Though one day, I'd love to do a SMG co-op LP with a friend...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BonusPwnage on November 18, 2012, 03:05:34 PM
I'm friendly, right? :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on November 18, 2012, 03:07:07 PM
Graah why do you use cheap moves Brawley?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on November 18, 2012, 04:09:22 PM
Just beat the 3rd Gym.

Team:
Barbecue(guess) Lv. 25
Smog(useless, gonna replace)
Flame Charge
Ember
Arm Thrust

Tuff Stuff(Igglybuff) Lv. 21 (got it from Dream Radar. Allowed because Igglybuff was the only Pokemon I transferred into B2, meaning he was my first Pokemon from there.)

Sing
Sweet Kiss
Return
Pound
(trying to make him level up so he would evolve, Wigglytuff <3)

Nicholas(Zubat) Lv. 14

Gust
Leech Life
Supersonic
Astonish
(just captured)

Going back to the Relic place to capture mah Pokemon.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on November 18, 2012, 04:20:45 PM
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on November 18, 2012, 04:09:22 PM(trying to make him level up so he would evolve, Wigglytuff <3)

YOOM....TAH!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on November 18, 2012, 05:35:52 PM
Update:

Barbecue died. Because of a fucking Sandshrew and Magnitude 5 critical hit. :(
Tuff Stuff has now evolved into Wigglytuff! :D
I caught a Timburr(named: HurrDurr), Scraggy(no name yet) and the very same Sandshrew(gonna name him to something evil).
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on November 18, 2012, 05:45:37 PM
Does your Scraggy have Moxie?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on November 18, 2012, 05:48:45 PM
Been meaning to do an Emerald nuzlocke for a while now.

Any tips?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on November 18, 2012, 06:23:59 PM
Start with Mudkip... I think that'll do wonders, since it gains the ground subtype upon evolution and will help against Wattson. And Flannery, for sure. And Swampert is VERY bulky so you can wall Norman.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on November 18, 2012, 06:27:12 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on November 18, 2012, 05:45:37 PMDoes your Scraggy have Moxie?
Shed Skin. :(

Also now Zubat and Timburr are both dead. But I caught a Minccino and a Liepard. Damn any fightning type Pokemon could rape my team. :( It's not looking good

Social, start with Torchic. When it evolves it can rape both first and third gym with Double Kick.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on November 18, 2012, 06:34:46 PM
Erm... pardon, but can you NOT use the term rape? It's kind of rude? Offensive? Perhaps use "beat" because using the word rape like that is not good?

I still say Swampert. Bulky defenses are godsends for nuzlockes.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on November 18, 2012, 07:24:26 PM
Sorry, I have watched too much Haydunn xD

I'll stop.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on November 18, 2012, 08:21:07 PM
Okay, will start with Mudkip.

Also, because I'm bored, my Soulsilver team.

Cyan's team.

4 Gym badges

Rocky (Onix) lvl 23

Sandstorm
Tackle
Rock Throw
Rock Tomb

Magmar (Magmar) lvl 22

Fire Spin
Fire Blast
Smokescreen
Faint attack

Relm (Flaffy) lvl 22

Tackle
Growl
Thunder
Thunder Wave

Gau (Fearow) lvl 23

Aerial Ace
Pursuit
Roost
Mirror Move

Mog (Bayleaf) lvl 23

Cut
Synthesis
Magical Leaf
Poison Powder

Shiny Gyarados lvl 30

Bite
Dragon Rage
Surf
Twister
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BonusPwnage on November 19, 2012, 06:04:22 AM
Don't tell me you're gonna name your Sandshew something cliche, like Sandscrew...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on November 19, 2012, 07:44:12 AM
Damn that would have been a good one. Though it's now a Sandslash. I named her Amy(epic reference). Sandjobs would have been a good name too.

Anyways, Team now.
Just made it to Route 6

Tuff Stuff(Wigglytuff) Lv. 30

Thunder Wave(going to replace)
Bounce
ThunderPunch
Strength

Amy(Sandslash) Lv. 28

Slash
Dig
Magnitude
Crush Claw

Donald(Ducklett) Lv. 24(training)

Fly
Bubblebeam
FeatherDance
Aqua Ring

Damn I need more good Pokemon. :(
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BonusPwnage on November 19, 2012, 07:50:27 AM
You're move sets seem fine to me. Don't worry about getting better Pokemon, with time you'll get the ones you want. Besides, I think that almost every Pokemon can be used fully and efficiently.
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on November 19, 2012, 11:13:54 AM
Gosh dangit I got fly but no one in my party can learn it. 5 generations later you'd think I would plan for this xD
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on November 19, 2012, 11:20:01 AM
Swanna <3
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on November 20, 2012, 06:56:42 AM
Tuff Stuff died to a Wake-Up-Slap critical hit in PWT
D:
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on November 20, 2012, 07:05:51 AM
Don't release it. :(
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on November 20, 2012, 07:52:49 AM
I haz a deathbox. :( It has now 8 people in it. Amy died.  :'(

I now have Donald the Swanna(super awesome) and Monty the Drilbur. Also a Karrablast for back-up.

Edit: Caught a Boldore that I can't evolve. Eviolite 8)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on November 20, 2012, 10:17:44 AM
Boldore has FRIGHTENINGLY good Defense with Eviolite.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BonusPwnage on November 20, 2012, 10:18:52 AM
I've never heard of someone being frightened over a pokemon's stats before. It must be as good as you say.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on November 20, 2012, 11:52:50 AM
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on November 20, 2012, 07:52:49 AMI haz a deathbox. :( It has now 8 people in it. Amy died.  :'(

I now have Donald the Swanna(super awesome) and Monty the Drilbur. Also a Karrablast for back-up.

Edit: Caught a Boldore that I can't evolve. Eviolite 8)
Aaah! If you can't trade a Pokemon, eviolite it! :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on November 20, 2012, 03:00:22 PM
Damn Donald the Lv. 38 Swanna died against a Zebstrika. I use Surf during rain and it lives with like one negative HP and Sparks me out. :( Well, I caught a Deerling and a Litwick.

Damn I lost my Fly and Surf. :(
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on November 20, 2012, 03:09:40 PM
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on November 20, 2012, 03:00:22 PMDamn Donald the Lv. 38 Swanna died against a Zebstrika. I use Surf during rain and it lives with like one negative HP and Sparks me out. :( Well, I caught a Deerling and a Litwick.

Damn I lost my Fly and Surf. :(
Train train train!!
You can do it! :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on November 20, 2012, 03:46:25 PM
I will. 8) *epic training music go*

Nightlight is close to evolving now, about to challenge the Flying Gym. Undergrunt(renamed Monty because it's a she.) and Mr. Krabs will kick Skyla's ass!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on November 20, 2012, 04:59:14 PM
I had a really lowbrow comment about wanting to do other things to Skyla's ass, but I'm keeping it to myself.

...dammit.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on November 20, 2012, 05:30:59 PM
I found my notebook I'm using for EV training and loved that I put "get in loser, we're going EV training" on one of the first pages.

I amuse myself.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on November 20, 2012, 05:37:11 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on November 20, 2012, 04:59:14 PMI had a really lowbrow comment about wanting to do other things to Skyla's ass, but I'm keeping it to myself.

...dammit.
xD

hahahaha! oh slow... ::)
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on November 20, 2012, 06:05:42 PM
Quote from: spitllama on November 19, 2012, 11:13:54 AMGosh dangit I got fly but no one in my party can learn it. 5 generations later you'd think I would plan for this xD
They really need to make like a partner Pokemon system a la ash's pikachu. A 7th Pokemon that can be used for HMs
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: MoboMoga on November 20, 2012, 06:21:04 PM
Quote from: Shadoninja on November 20, 2012, 06:05:42 PMA 7th Pokemon that can be used for HMs

I always have to either: -make my pokemon waste one of its moves space with HM
                                    -catch an ugly pokemon to teach the HM. sad but truth.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on November 21, 2012, 07:35:49 AM
Another boring nuzlocke update:

Starbucks the Deerling died. I caught another Litwick and a Drifblim. Now in the Strange House.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on November 21, 2012, 08:02:52 AM
Quick, I need a pseudo-legendary or a legendary pokemon that would "unofficially" (unofficially as in, they don't really have the power except for this one thing) be able to travel through time, yet might live in a glacier.

Kyurem and Regice are OUT. Any other ideas? Once again, its for my story.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on November 21, 2012, 08:50:46 AM
Articuno/Rotom-Frost?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on November 21, 2012, 09:16:19 AM
No legendary, but Froslass?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on November 21, 2012, 12:03:03 PM
idk Lapras? Yeah there are no legendaries that are good for that
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: EFitTrainr on November 21, 2012, 01:09:45 PM
Quote from: Kman96 on November 21, 2012, 08:02:52 AMQuick, I need a pseudo-legendary or a legendary pokemon that would "unofficially" (unofficially as in, they don't really have the power except for this one thing) be able to travel through time, yet might live in a glacier.

Kyurem and Regice are OUT. Any other ideas? Once again, its for my story.
So during lunch, I suggest Dialga to Kman, and he's all like, "What is Dialga doing inside a GLACIER"

and I'm all like, "just chillin'."

I'm so witty.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on November 21, 2012, 01:13:19 PM
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on November 21, 2012, 09:16:19 AMNo legendary, but Froslass?
I looked at all the possibilities, and Reapr wins. Congrats, bro.

Froslass is now trapped inside a glacier and has time-travelling powers. Yay.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on November 22, 2012, 07:05:52 AM
(https://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/12/11/19/hqP2mgX4EEKGtcd9J-MW4w2.jpg)
Holy shit I must do this, although I'm gonna make few adjustments:

-Challenge Mode
-Starter Pokemon are only allowed if you choose the nation where it belongs.
-If your Pokemon faints, you can't use it anymore.
-The first Pokemon your nation approves you find from the location is catchable. You can't catch any other Pokemon from that location except the first one.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on November 22, 2012, 07:51:08 AM
So basically you're making a Nuzlocke + Avatar challenge.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on November 22, 2012, 08:02:44 AM
 ::) Yeah.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on November 22, 2012, 10:20:57 AM
well time to be an air nomad. ghost types!!
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on November 22, 2012, 11:19:49 AM
"I want to go there! You know... There!
*takes to place*
"this isn't what I was looking for...*
*leaves*

WELL FINE I DIDN'T WANT YOUR BUSINESS ANYWAY!
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on November 22, 2012, 11:50:28 AM
Quote from: Shadoninja on November 22, 2012, 11:19:49 AM"I want to go there! You know... There!
*takes to place*
"this isn't what I was looking for...*
*leaves*

WELL FINE I DIDN'T WANT YOUR BUSINESS ANYWAY!
What is this of?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on November 22, 2012, 12:01:13 PM
epic join avenue reference
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on November 22, 2012, 12:14:17 PM
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on November 22, 2012, 12:01:13 PMepic join avenue reference
that's what I figured, but I haven't played bw2 in ages...so much damn homework.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on November 22, 2012, 02:20:41 PM
update:

Mr. Krabs the Boldore died. I caught a Golduck(Gladstone), Mantine(no name yet) and Frillish(Vera, couldn't resist)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on November 22, 2012, 03:53:36 PM
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on November 22, 2012, 02:20:41 PMupdate:

Mr. Krabs the Boldore died. I caught a Golduck(Gladstone), Mantine(no name yet) and Frillish(Vera, couldn't resist)

Out of curiosity why did you pick the name Gladstone?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on November 22, 2012, 04:05:05 PM
idk how you spell it but, Gladstone Goose from Donald Duck? (I know, golduck can't be a goose)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on November 23, 2012, 03:42:07 AM
^His name is actually Gladstone Gander. He's half goose, though, so you'd stille be somewhat right on that.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on November 23, 2012, 05:05:36 PM
Started Pokemon Black, chose Tepig.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on November 23, 2012, 06:27:01 PM
The only Pokémon anime episode to take place in Alyos (http://www.myspace.com/video/bernard9782/pokemon-episode-65/62338567)...

Maybe I should put something about this in my story! Ideas?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on November 23, 2012, 08:46:52 PM
Quote from: SocialFox on November 23, 2012, 05:05:36 PMStarted Pokemon Black, chose Tepig.

whyyyy it becomes so ugly
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on November 23, 2012, 08:52:12 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on November 23, 2012, 08:46:52 PMwhyyyy it becomes so ugly
I normally pick the underrated pokemon.
*snip*
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on November 23, 2012, 08:57:01 PM
I picked Tepig too, even though I like Oshawott better, but Im not really sure why. I remember my friend complaining about her Samurott because it has a strong offense but low defense, and the opposite with Serperior. Emboar seemed around the middle for me

Social is your copy real or fake?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on November 23, 2012, 08:58:27 PM
*censored*
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on November 23, 2012, 10:51:37 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on November 23, 2012, 08:46:52 PMwhyyyy it becomes so ugly
He can get the best nicknames; Porkchops, BBQ, Barbecue, Bacon
;)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Zunawe on November 24, 2012, 12:22:07 AM
I chose tepig just because he starts fairly decently. High attack mixed with some agility booster item early on. I switch my pokemon out for ones that hit hard and fast as soon as I get the chance. I especially like Timburr right now.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on November 24, 2012, 01:35:47 AM
Am I the only one who ALLWAYS ditch my starter? I don't like wasting one of my 6 slots, on something one third of all the other players have.. Besides they're not thaat good.. There's allways a better grass type, or water type, or fire type, than the respective type of starter..
The only time I EVER used my starter, was when I played through Black - I used Samurott
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on November 24, 2012, 02:22:54 AM
Quote from: Jompa on November 24, 2012, 01:35:47 AMAm I the only one who ALLWAYS ditch my starter? I don't like wasting one of my 6 slots, on something one third of all the other players have.. Besides they're not thaat good.. There's allways a better grass type, or water type, or fire type, than the respective type of starter..
The only time I EVER used my starter, was when I played through Black - I used Samurott
My starters always die in nuzlockes, so that means I have to ditch them. :-\
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on November 24, 2012, 07:01:37 PM
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on November 22, 2012, 07:05:52 AM(https://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/12/11/19/hqP2mgX4EEKGtcd9J-MW4w2.jpg)
Battles with these type limitations would be cool. Water and Fire seem be powerhouses.


Someone should create a crossover of avatar and pokemanz. That would be interesting.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on November 24, 2012, 08:51:32 PM
Quote from: Shadoninja on November 16, 2012, 08:34:31 PMArcanine (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Close Combat/Wild Charge
- ExtremeSpeed
- Outrage
- Crunch
Probably going to replace close combat because it doesn't have enough PP.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on November 25, 2012, 08:57:01 PM
Hey!! What would you say about a Pokemon with these base stats?
HP: 120

Atk: 180

Defense: 80

Sp. Atk: 40

Sp. Def: 80

Speed: 100

Total: 600


Aside from the fact, of course, that a base Attack of 180 would put it on par with Deoxys (Attack form), making it tied for the highest attack; the Bug-type Pokemon with the highest attack and the Fighting-type Pokemon with the highest attack? :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on November 26, 2012, 11:18:18 AM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on November 25, 2012, 08:57:01 PMHey!! What would you say about a Pokemon with these base stats?
HP: 120

Atk: 180

Defense: 80

Sp. Atk: 40

Sp. Def: 80

Speed: 100

Total: 600


Aside from the fact, of course, that a base Attack of 180 would put it on par with Deoxys (Attack form), making it tied for the highest attack; the Bug-type Pokemon with the highest attack and the Fighting-type Pokemon with the highest attack? :P
Overpowered.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on November 26, 2012, 11:56:13 AM
It only has a base-stat total of 600, the same as a fully-evolved pseudo-legendary (which it's supposed to be :P).
Its Sp. Atk. is pretty much terrible (even below that of Beedrill, for example), meaning that, for the most part, it will use mainly Physical moves. Its Defense and Sp. Defense are about average, and its Speed isn't enough to move before Deoxys (Attack) without any boosts.
Being Bug-Fight gives it a 4x vulnerability to Flying types, 2x to Psychic (which, being a Bug-type, it can take care of, usually), and 2x to Fire (which can be negated with one of its abilities ;)).
If used properly, it could be very overpowered, but I'm trying to balance it out a little.

Essentially, if Thoxicon can hit, it hits hard, but if it misses (or, rather, is outspeeded by the opponent, one way or another), it's open to vicious attacks. Although I haven't made a moveset (by leveling up) yet, I'd imagine that the only priority move it would learn might be Mach Punch. The few special moves it would learn would probably be these:
Bug Buzz
Silver Wind
Final Gambit

However, these do not count ones learned by TMs and HMs.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on November 26, 2012, 01:17:23 PM
beware shiny charizards, bds is joining the game freak
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on November 26, 2012, 02:22:00 PM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on November 26, 2012, 01:17:23 PMbeware shiny charizards, bds is joining the game freak
...Hmmm...

Well, I just came up with the stats after taking a close look at all the pseudo-legendaries, and a few other Pokemon (including Beedrill, Heracross, Dexoys-Attack, and Rampardos).
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on November 27, 2012, 08:47:29 AM
Except the other pokemon you looked at have terrible base stats. Rampardos may have an atk stat of 165, the rest of its stats suck so if you're not a bad player you should be able to play around it. Your 'mon has 600 stats total, so even if it has a really bad sp. atk stat, it has 120 HP stat which is huge, and it has decent def/sp. Def and speed. So I agree with Shado, this thing is way too overpowered.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on November 27, 2012, 06:47:59 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on November 27, 2012, 08:47:29 AMExcept the other pokemon you looked at have terrible base stats. Rampardos may have an atk stat of 165, the rest of its stats suck so if you're not a bad player you should be able to play around it. Your 'mon has 600 stats total, so even if it has a really bad sp. atk stat, it has 120 HP stat which is huge, and it has decent def/sp. Def and speed. So I agree with Shado, this thing is way too overpowered.
That is one of the reasons I looked at them... to get an idea of the extremes and of somewhat-balance. Also notice "including"...

One thing I saw, upon further examination, is that the stats I chose are more like the statistical averages of Fighting-type Pokemon, except with slightly-more-extreme differences.
However, I think it might be better, in this case, to not say any more, lest I ignite another "fire of rage," so to say, and just end with:
Thank you for your advice, Roz and Shadoninja.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on November 29, 2012, 01:26:08 PM
So Im thinking about doing this, whether on tumblr or on here. Does anyone want to see? :P

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fnzx8G.png&hash=398ad11fda2f9c202165734db7999990ac7bb722)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on November 29, 2012, 01:52:37 PM
Yeah, that'd be cool :)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on November 29, 2012, 05:59:35 PM
:D sounds awesome! I need to find that on tumblr so I can reblog it and do it....
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on November 29, 2012, 06:07:50 PM
Yay! But I realized quickly that I dont have the patience to learn how to use my photoshop in 2 days, so they're all gonna be sketches :P

I kinda wish they had more of a variety for choices, because honestly I dont have a favorite fighting or favorite in-battle Pokemon. I really had to think hard for those

EDIT: And Im so skilled I found you :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on November 29, 2012, 06:18:07 PM
you did indeed!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on December 01, 2012, 02:02:11 PM
http://bubbles7689.tumblr.com/

I wont post them here to avoid clutter

advertising
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on December 01, 2012, 02:45:46 PM
It looks awesome.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 04, 2012, 02:23:23 PM
M'kay, see this:
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg34.imageshack.us%2Fimg34%2F1904%2Fwevebeenfedlies2.png&hash=87f8aa83cc94fa53c99d8fc34bfdca7e4ab16644)

I have a theory!!!
Metapod was originally intended to have a split evolution, one evolving into Butterfree (for purposes of making everything simple, I'm using the names we're familiar with), and another evolving into Venomoth.
However, the developers thought that Venonat should have an evolution, so, they intended to put Butterfree as the evolution (with a few minor changes to make them appear more similar). However, they accidentally put Venomoth as Venonat's evolution.

They realized their error, but there wasn't much time to change it before the game came out, lest they risk an entirely glitchy game (imagine, all the current glitches times 10 or more). They simply recolored the sprites and, in later generations, tried to hide the similarities as much as possible.

In conclusion, if it was an error, it might have been better to just admit it and fix it in Gen 2 (or not...).
I've also heard about other "errors," such as Remoraid and Octillery, but that's a different story.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on December 04, 2012, 02:25:05 PM
But... since when do cocoons from caterpillars turn into moths?

I mean Caterpie is supposed to follow the caterpillar -> cocoon -> butterfly thing and I really don't think there was any mix up?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 04, 2012, 02:30:10 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on December 04, 2012, 02:25:05 PMBut... since when do cocoons from caterpillars turn into moths?

I mean Caterpie is supposed to follow the caterpillar -> cocoon -> butterfly thing and I really don't think there was any mix up?
Venomoth could easily be a butterfly as well, especially given its Japanese name, Morphon, and similarity to butterflies. Butterfree actually looks more "compact" like a moth, similar to Dustox. Also, what we know as Venomoth could have easily been called "Butterfree," and visa-versa.

I don't recall fluffy gnats turning into moths either... :P In some cases, though, they have been seen to take "creative liberty."
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on December 04, 2012, 02:34:39 PM
it's Pokemon, it's FULL of creative liberty!

Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on December 04, 2012, 02:34:52 PM
Dustox and Venomoth have the same basic shape, as do Beautifly and Butterfree, so I think they were meant to be what they are. Personally I think this theory started because someone noticed that Venonat and Butterfree had the same eyes/hands, so they just assumed that Venomoth went with Metapod and Caterpie. Maybe the artist creating them didn't realize that he recycled a pattern?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on December 04, 2012, 02:35:20 PM
don't argue with pokemon logic
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 04, 2012, 02:47:46 PM
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on December 04, 2012, 02:34:52 PMDustox and Venomoth have the same basic shape, as do Beautifly and Butterfree, so I think they were meant to be what they are. Personally I think this theory started because someone noticed that Venonat and Butterfree had the same eyes/hands, so they just assumed that Venomoth went with Metapod and Caterpie. Maybe the artist creating them didn't realize that he recycled a pattern?
Ok, ignore colors for a moment. Look at Metapod. Look at Venomoth. Look at Caterpie. Look at Venomoth. See all the similarities (e.g. yellow spots in original artwork, the three-pronged head)? Venomoth is essentially an altered Metapod with wings.
Look at Venonat. Look at Butterfree. In the first game, Butterfree essentially IS a larger Venonat with wings.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on December 04, 2012, 02:58:57 PM
Butterfree's body is basically two joined circles, while Venomoth's is a long Metapod-shaped thing like you said. That reflects real-life butterflies in moths, at least how you tell the difference in cartoon images

Plus everyone knows butterflies are prettier than moths, which is why Butterfree is prettier than Venomoth

EDIT: Whoops got my names mixed up
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: the_last_sheikah on December 04, 2012, 03:05:54 PM
So by this logic, Magikarp was supposed to evolve into Dragonite because they are orange.  Also, Dratini's final form would have been Gyrados because they are all long and blue.
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQp1-UozaayCMQQeKxlnYTfxHzISjP4Gjd7GHU-iXbYR7FiR0Ci)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on December 04, 2012, 03:08:37 PM
Quote from: the_last_sheikah on December 04, 2012, 03:05:54 PMSo by this logic, Magikarp was supposed to evolve into Dragonite because they are orange.  Also, Dratini's final form would have been Gyrados because they are all long and blue.
Another mistake done by Nintendo!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on December 04, 2012, 03:11:26 PM
Quote from: the_last_sheikah on December 04, 2012, 03:05:54 PMSo by this logic, Magikarp was supposed to evolve into Dragonite because they are orange.  Also, Dratini's final form would have been Gyrados because they are all long and blue.
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQp1-UozaayCMQQeKxlnYTfxHzISjP4Gjd7GHU-iXbYR7FiR0Ci)

bahahah the image of a little fish evolving into a giant dragon is hilarious

Magikarp and Gyarados are based off mythology anyway I believe, so trying the "mistake" route is absolutely wrong.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on December 04, 2012, 03:12:56 PM
^But Magikarp already does evolve into a giant dragon :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on December 04, 2012, 03:13:34 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on December 04, 2012, 03:11:26 PMMagikarp and Gyarados are based off mythology anyway I believe
Yes, the legend of the waterfall.

edit:
(https://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/12/11/21/wE-1hoWON0K2jPa1uKIU5A2.png)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: the_last_sheikah on December 04, 2012, 03:13:46 PM
I know, I was just making fun of his theory cause he has no hard evidence.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on December 04, 2012, 03:15:40 PM
true true... there's nothing backing up the "mistake" idea.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 04, 2012, 03:22:49 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on December 04, 2012, 03:11:26 PMbahahah the image of a little fish evolving into a giant dragon is hilarious

Magikarp and Gyarados are based off mythology anyway I believe, so trying the "mistake" route is absolutely wrong.
Logic behind it, yes. Especially the tiny fish becoming a mighty beast.

Quote from: the_last_sheikah on December 04, 2012, 03:13:46 PMI know, I was just making fun of his theory cause he has no hard evidence.
Using THAT logic, the ony "hard evidence" would be a statement from Game Freak. I'm not the only one to propose the theory; I'm just thinking of the way it might make the most sense.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on December 04, 2012, 06:38:16 PM
The only reason people think the people at Gamefreak swapped Butterfree and Venomoth is that Venomoth is superior to Butterfree because of its stats and its movepool, and that it would've been too overpowered for a pokémon you can get at the start of the game. I guess the only way to know if it's real or not would be to ask the people from Gamefreak during the Pokémon World Championship since you can actually talk to them a little.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 04, 2012, 07:53:21 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on December 04, 2012, 06:38:16 PMThe only reason people think the people at Gamefreak swapped Butterfree and Venomoth is that Venomoth is superior to Butterfree because of its stats and its movepool, and that it would've been too overpowered for a pokémon you can get at the start of the game. I guess the only way to know if it's real or not would be to ask the people from Gamefreak during the Pokémon World Championship since you can actually talk to them a little.
There's one problem with that theory:
Only the sprites would be swapped if the theory is true.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on December 05, 2012, 09:56:09 AM
I'm not saying that it makes sense, I'm mentioning it because a lot of people think that. And there's also the possibility that Butterfree was considered for the Venonat evolution but scrapped for Venomoth, and then they brought the design back for Metapod. Also if you look at the List of Pokémon by index number, Venonat is on its own and Venomoth was made later. This could mean that they planned to use Butterfree as Venonat's evo, but they scrapped it, and when Caterpie/Metapod came around, they decided to use the Butterfree sprite after all.
I'm just stating some facts that could make sense, as I personally don't believe that anyone at Gamefreak messed up, though it's true that if you look at Venonat and Butterfree's sprites from Pokémon Green, the resemblance is uncanny.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 05, 2012, 11:11:52 AM
Quote from: Roz~ on December 05, 2012, 09:56:09 AMI'm not saying that it makes sense, I'm mentioning it because a lot of people think that. And there's also the possibility that Butterfree was considered for the Venonat evolution but scrapped for Venomoth, and then they brought the design back for Metapod. Also if you look at the List of Pokémon by index number, Venonat is on its own and Venomoth was made later. This could mean that they planned to use Butterfree as Venonat's evo, but they scrapped it, and when Caterpie/Metapod came around, they decided to use the Butterfree sprite after all.
I'm just stating some facts that could make sense, as I personally don't believe that anyone at Gamefreak messed up, though it's true that if you look at Venonat and Butterfree's sprites from Pokémon Green, the resemblance is uncanny.
You can see how such similarities have decreased over the years... especially the eyes, head/body, and wings.
However, in Generation 3, especially, it looks more like a moth than anything else...
Some people have stated that both could be based on butterflies...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on December 05, 2012, 12:20:42 PM
Venomoth's Japanese name: Morphon. Its name comes from the Morpho butterfly. Basically the American people who translated its name are the one who decided it was gonna be a moth. And yeah, the sprites are going to change over the years because the technology improves. No Gen 1 'mon look exactly the same now as it did back then. If you don't want to look at the sprites, then look at the concept art Sugimori drew. The resemblance still is uncanny. Also some caterpillars end up being moths so Caterpie evolving into Metapod and then Venomoth could make sense.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on December 05, 2012, 07:15:29 PM
Look what I found!

This is some sick shit right there.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on December 06, 2012, 04:54:45 AM
*finds Tynamo in nuzlocke challenge*

*catches it*

*Tynamo dies to a Pursuit*

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on December 06, 2012, 06:15:24 AM
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on December 06, 2012, 04:54:45 AM*finds Tynamo in nuzlocke challenge*

*catches it*

*Tynamo dies to a Pursuit*

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-
Oh, god - all the hours I lost to that Tynamo...
More importantly: HI FSM!!!!! WE MISS YOU!! SUP?! :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on December 06, 2012, 09:57:10 AM
Fine, here for one day(explained in another thread). Nice to see you too.

So.
In Celestial Tower, there is a young girl who owns a Litwick. After you have defeated that girl, she automaticly says this:
"Losing a battle is so draining.
I feel really burned out somehow."
As some of you may know, Litwick's Pokedex description says this:
" Its flame is usually out, but it starts shining when it absorbs life force from people or Pokémon. "
That might mean that after you have defeated that Litwick, it no longer has any energy of it's own, meaning the Litwick starts absorbing the little girl's life force to regain it's energy.
The girl has no idea that her best friend, Litwick, hurts her on purpose.

That is the saddest thing in the entire game in my opinion.

I'm going to ring that bell just for her.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 06, 2012, 10:18:59 AM
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on December 06, 2012, 09:57:10 AMFine, here for one day(explained in another thread). Nice to see you too.

So.
In Celestial Tower, there is a young girl who owns a Litwick. After you have defeated that girl, she automaticly says this:
"Losing a battle is so draining.
I feel really burned out somehow."
As some of you may know, Litwick's Pokedex description says this:
" Its flame is usually out, but it starts shining when it absorbs life force from people or Pokémon. "
That might mean that after you have defeated that Litwick, it no longer has any energy of it's own, meaning the Litwick starts absorbing the little girl's life force to regain it's energy.
The girl has no idea that her best friend, Litwick, hurts her on purpose.

That is the saddest thing in the entire game in my opinion.

I'm going to ring that bell just for her.
*eyetwitch*

I prefer to think of it as:
Since her Litwick was defeated, she feels such a strong connection that she feels "drained" as well... :P
Wishful thinking, though...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on December 06, 2012, 10:21:53 AM
Durant's a beast, holy crap. Why haven't I used one before?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on December 06, 2012, 10:28:22 AM
Also, after that battle against the girl, she leaves to the Pokemon Center and in there she says:
"After our Pokemon battle,
I felt a little burned out.
But, as long as my dear Litwick is
with me, I'll be OK anytime, anywhere!"

Imagine her living her entire life as a Pokemon Trainer. Every time she loses, she loses a ton energy. And she has no clue what is going on.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on December 06, 2012, 10:32:05 AM
that would make a really good creepypasta...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on December 06, 2012, 10:33:22 AM
Quote from: Nebbles on December 06, 2012, 10:32:05 AMthat would make a really good creepypasta...
I'M ALREADY WRITING IT!!!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on December 06, 2012, 10:48:49 AM
what I wanted to write it first
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 06, 2012, 11:06:08 AM
Quote from: Nebbles on December 06, 2012, 10:21:53 AMDurant's a beast, holy crap. Why haven't I used one before?
Hustle > Truant

Truant ruins Slaking (you can work around it in rare situations, though), but Durant has no reason to have that ability (aside from the fact that both have "Ant" in their names)!! :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on December 06, 2012, 11:23:30 AM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on December 06, 2012, 11:06:08 AMbut Durant has no reason to have that ability (aside from the fact that both have "Ant" in their names)!! :P
Unless you use a gimmicky Entrainment moveset.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 06, 2012, 11:31:57 AM
Quote from: Shadoninja on December 06, 2012, 11:23:30 AMUnless you use a gimmicky Entrainment moveset.
Hmm...
That wouldn't work very well, especially if you faint the opponent's Pokemon directly after, or if they switch out... Good concept, but not so good execution. Unless, that is, it's your opponent's last Pokemon, and you want to be mean. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on December 06, 2012, 11:33:19 AM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on December 06, 2012, 11:31:57 AMThat wouldn't work very well
Challenge Accepted
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on December 06, 2012, 11:35:45 AM
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on December 06, 2012, 10:33:22 AMI'M ALREADY WRITING IT!!!
Hahah, that's amazing! I get this kinda Lavender Town-feeling from it! Awesome ;)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 06, 2012, 11:52:34 AM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on December 06, 2012, 11:33:19 AMChallenge Accepted
Please note, before you step into the challenge, that not all opponents will "play along," and some may become extremely enraged... also note a possible lack of sufficient PP to keep the move going throughout the battle... :P
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on December 06, 2012, 09:56:23 PM
Does anyone want to trade their toxic orb for my flame orb in BW2?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on December 06, 2012, 10:00:03 PM
Another GREAT Pokemon I discovered is Sigilyph.

Hoo boy. Give it... Calm Nature I think, Magic Guard, Leftovers and have it learn Miracle Eye, Roost, Cosmic Power and Stored Power. It's deadly.
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on December 06, 2012, 10:06:29 PM
^^ I don't want to imagine it :l sounds like a 2 hour battle to me

Also that trainer at village bridge has a super obnoxious lilligant: teeter dance, quiver dance, mega drain, and synthesis? Bah.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 06, 2012, 10:14:21 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on December 06, 2012, 10:00:03 PMAnother GREAT Pokemon I discovered is Sigilyph.

Hoo boy. Give it... Calm Nature I think, Magic Guard, Leftovers and have it learn Miracle Eye, Roost, Cosmic Power and Stored Power. It's deadly.
I, personally, prefer Reuniclus (just more of a personal preference)... Sigilyph's Flying-type can help avoid ground-type moves, but it gives it more weaknesses. Pokemon that use stat-boosting moves usually need to be strong enough to endure multiple hits in the first place, for obvious reasons, because in some cases, the extra move is just a chance for opponents to decimate you; if their Pokemon is faster, as well, you're in trouble. :P Sigilyph usually doesn't have to worry about that as much...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on December 06, 2012, 10:17:19 PM
Reuniclus can easily be defeated before it even gets to do stuff. :-\
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on December 06, 2012, 10:33:17 PM
Not unless it's a Trick roomuniclus! And Cosmic Power builds up, especially with Leftovers.

The only Lilligant to run, really, is this: Own Tempo, Modest... unsure about item... Quiver Dance, Petal Dance, Sleep Powder or any status move, then a Hidden Power, either Rock or Fire.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on December 06, 2012, 10:35:25 PM
But Reuniclus is so slow that it has no time to recover after the Trick/Cosmic Power.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 06, 2012, 10:42:37 PM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on December 06, 2012, 10:17:19 PMReuniclus can easily be defeated before it even gets to do stuff. :-\
Not always, no, and when it uses Trick Room, especially if it has a really low speed stat, it can wreak havoc (super-effective Pokemon like Chandelure, for example, are a . It's HP base stat is good (at 110), and has average defenses (which can be fixed a little more, since either the Attack or, even better, Speed stat can be sacrified when EV training).

Quote from: Waddle Bro on December 06, 2012, 10:35:25 PMBut Reuniclus is so slow that it has no time to recover after the Trick/Cosmic Power.
Life Orb + Magic Guard.
It doesn't need to recover; Trick Room will essentially guarentee it moves first, and its stats (and Life Orb) do the rest.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on December 06, 2012, 10:47:13 PM
I usually 2HKO Reuniclus. It doesn't matter will it use Trick Room first. After that it usually uses Recover/Cosmic Power. And my next move defeats it. (Choice Bands ftw)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 06, 2012, 10:55:02 PM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on December 06, 2012, 10:47:13 PMI usually 2HKO Reuniclus. It doesn't matter will it use Trick Room first. After that it usually uses Recover/Cosmic Power. And my next move defeats it. (Choice Bands ftw)
If it uses Trick Room, Choice Band becomes nearly useless; you can't use it if you can't attack with it. :P After Trick Room, it usually uses Psychic (or any other move it has)... at least that's what I've done (again, Life Orb combined with Psychic, and its already high Sp. Atk.).
However, I'm sure you could find a way to use Trick Room to your advantage, although it might be in specialized cases...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on December 06, 2012, 11:08:38 PM
You're assuming that Reuniclus would be an OHKO Pokemon with Life Orb. Well it's not. After surviving from the Psychic/Psyshock, I just attack and game over.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 06, 2012, 11:27:06 PM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on December 06, 2012, 11:08:38 PMYou're assuming that Reuniclus would be an OHKO Pokemon with Life Orb. Well it's not. After surviving from the Psychic/Psyshock, I just attack and game over.
Unless the Pokemon you're talking about has super-high Sp. Defense, then, yes, it most likely would, especially if Reuniclus has 252 EVs in Sp. Atk (and, in some cases, a helpful nature). Psyshock might also be used in some cases... and, factoring in STAB...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on December 07, 2012, 12:32:00 AM
You don't need super epic defenses to avoid dying. Lots of HP and medium defenses are okay. For example, Gliscor could survive that. Pretty much any wall could.

http://pokemonshowdown.com/replay/ou5601515
http://pokemonshowdown.com/replay/ou5601626

Pretty much proves my point.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on December 07, 2012, 07:42:03 AM
Quote from: Nebbles on December 06, 2012, 10:00:03 PMAnother GREAT Pokemon I discovered is Sigilyph.

Hoo boy. Give it... Calm Nature I think, Magic Guard, Leftovers and have it learn Miracle Eye, Roost, Cosmic Power and Stored Power. It's deadly.

Haha yeah I saw someone use it in battle and omg it's hilariously good. That and Psycho Shift with Flame Orb.


Quote from: Waddle Bro on December 07, 2012, 12:32:00 AMYou don't need super epic defenses to avoid dying. Lots of HP and medium defenses are okay. For example, Gliscor could survive that. Pretty much any wall could.

http://pokemonshowdown.com/replay/ou5601515
http://pokemonshowdown.com/replay/ou5601626

Pretty much proves my point.

Exactly. I mean, there are Pokemon out there that can take a Dragon Gem boosted Draco Meteor from a max Sp. Atk Modest Latios, so really Reuniclus isn't going to OHKO everything out there.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 07, 2012, 10:15:06 AM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on December 07, 2012, 12:32:00 AMYou don't need super epic defenses to avoid dying. Lots of HP and medium defenses are okay. For example, Gliscor could survive that. Pretty much any wall could.

http://pokemonshowdown.com/replay/ou5601515
http://pokemonshowdown.com/replay/ou5601626

Pretty much proves my point.
1: BOTH of the moves that hit Reuniclus were super-effective, in the first example. Which goes against what I just said ("super-effective Pokemon like Chandelure, for example, are another example," although the quote seems to have been cut off).
2: The Dugtrio had a Focus Sash...
3: You can't just expect to go in their with Reuniclus as your only Pokemon and do anything near-effective; I never said that you could decimate all who stand before you (as in, whole teams)...
4: Also, to take into account, because of point 3, the opponent switching out, which gives Trick Room more of a chance to take effect (without Reuniclus being damaged beforehand).
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on December 07, 2012, 10:26:14 AM
I agree that if you don't have a Reuniclus counter on your team then yes, you can get swept by it. However, any good opponent you face will have a way of dealing with it, whether it's with a Sash Dugtrio or Super effective moves. Yes Reuniclus can do work, but you first have to play around your opponent's threats and that easier said than done. And even if you do, there's no guarantee you're going to sweep its whole team.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 07, 2012, 10:35:20 AM
Quote from: Roz~ on December 07, 2012, 10:26:14 AMI agree that if you don't have a Reuniclus counter on your team then yes, you can get swept by it. However, any good opponent you face will have a way of dealing with it, whether it's with a Sash Dugtrio or Super effective moves. Yes Reuniclus can do work, but you first have to play around your opponent's threats and that easier said than done. And even if you do, there's no guarantee you're going to sweep its whole team.
If you're going against a super-effective Pokemon, unless you know you can take it out (or Trick Room is already in effect, and switching to another Pokemon wouldn't be a smart idea), it's not a very good idea to go full-on-ahead with your plans. And, once again, I never claimed that it could sweep entire teams...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on December 07, 2012, 10:56:39 AM
I know, it was just an example. I've seen people get swept by Reuniclus before. =P And sometimes you think you can take out a threat with ease, but the opponent end up having something up its sleeve, whether it's a certain EV spread that lets you survive a super effective hit, or some kind of item that lets it KO you instead. You never know what can happen, it's Pokémon after all.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on December 07, 2012, 10:58:23 AM
Nobody designs a team like "omg i'll put a reuniclus here so i could super effective kill someone"

Reuniclus simply has nothing against a simple wall. Deal with it.

IT SUUUUUUUUUUCKSSSSSSSSS
in OUs
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on December 07, 2012, 11:54:42 AM
Most walls don't have anything to hit Reuniclus as well. I agree though, I personally don't like it, but it's viable.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 07, 2012, 01:13:48 PM
On a completely different note, though:
Do you think a type like this would be overpowered? :P
OFFENSIVE:
2x power: Dragon, Electric, Dark.
1/2x power: Fire, Water, Grass.
0x: Normal

DEFFENSIVE:
1/2x damage: Dragon, Dark.
2x damage: Fire, Water, Grass, Normal.
0x damage: Psychic

I'm thinking that the immunity to Psychic-types might be a little too much, and the 2x strength against Electric, which would mean that there would be no types currently without weaknesses...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on December 07, 2012, 01:15:29 PM
Sorry to chime in on this so late, but I just saw the "GameFreak did this by mistake, but it got too late to fix it..." thing. There is one far more substantial theory out there:

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.bulbagarden.net%2Fupload%2Fthumb%2F6%2F6b%2FMarsh_Badge.png%2F50px-Marsh_Badge.png&hash=613b051474b103a215e9f23d68903ac6c8775eab)

The awesome people around here may recognise this as the Marsh Badge. It's handed out in Saffron Gym, which specializes in Psychic Pokémon. Saffron City is a heavily urbanized area.

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.bulbagarden.net%2Fupload%2Fthumb%2F7%2F7d%2FSoul_Badge.png%2F50px-Soul_Badge.png&hash=dda6ba1b02ef6644ca0e90d60d3230cd66cc57d0)

This, on the other hand, is the Soul Badge. It's a reward for beating Fuchsia Gym, which specializes in Poison Pokémon. Fuchsia City is in a wetlands area.

You may choose in which order you challenge Saffron and Fuchsia gym. Going by level progression, Fuschia gym is the fifth in the game, while Saffron is the sixth. However, it's entirely possible to take on Saffron as the fifth gym and and Fuchsia as the sixth.

Psychic Pokémon have outstanding connections between mind and body. Spiritual guys. I'd say their powers are soul-related.
Poison Pokémon thrive in humid and dirty areas, like the marshes around Fuchsia City. Poisonous gas is sometimes found in marshes.

The names for the badges were probably swapped. A lot of official material swap the names of the two badges. Probably due to the immense popularity of the series, the names were never fixed in the games, as the change would be too confusing.

EDIT: Also, while looking up the pictures for this, I realized I had been spelling the name of Fuchsia City "Fuschia" for years without noticing. Embarrassing...  :-[
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on December 07, 2012, 01:27:58 PM
This I would agree with.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 07, 2012, 01:37:21 PM
Quote from: Cobraroll on December 07, 2012, 01:15:29 PMThe names for the badges were probably swapped. A lot of official material swap the names of the two badges. Probably due to the immense popularity of the series, the names were never fixed in the games, as the change would be too confusing.
I've heard that theory as well. If they had, in G2, fixed any previous errors, they could have "repaired the damage" before it spiraled out of control.

"Behold! It's Passion Pink!"
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on December 07, 2012, 01:50:03 PM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on December 07, 2012, 01:13:48 PMOn a completely different note, though:
Do you think a type like this would be overpowered? :P
OFFENSIVE:
2x power: Dragon, Electric, Dark.
1/2x power: Fire, Water, Grass.
0x: Normal

DEFFENSIVE:
1/2x damage: Dragon, Dark.
2x damage: Fire, Water, Grass, Normal.
0x damage: Psychic

I'm thinking that the immunity to Psychic-types might be a little too much, and the 2x strength against Electric, which would mean that there would be no types currently without weaknesses...
After you come up with a name, we can discuss about this.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 07, 2012, 02:09:15 PM
Light-type (I know, everybody wants to do a Light-type!! :P) + reasoning behind each.
OFFENSIVE:
2x Dragon; light, the good and pure, slay the evil dragons. :P
2x Electric; light can be associated with electricity, etc.
2x Dark; light triumphs over dark, etc.
1/2x Fire, Water, Grass; main elemental powers
0x Normal; Normal types are "pure."

DEFFENSIVE:
1/2x Dragon; provided in 2x statements.
1/2x Psychic
2x Fire, Water, Grass; main elemental powers
2x Normal; discusses in 0x statement above.
0x Dark; if you have a constant light source (if taken in a literal sense), then there's always going to be a little bubble of light around you. :P

I was considering adding ghost type somewhere in there, but I figured that not all ghosts are always evil. :P
I also have ideas for an "Artificial" type, but that's a different thing altogether...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on December 07, 2012, 05:25:29 PM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on December 07, 2012, 02:09:15 PMI was considering adding ghost type somewhere in there, but I figured that not all ghosts are always evil. :P

And all dragons and psychics are?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 07, 2012, 05:32:38 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on December 07, 2012, 05:25:29 PMAnd all dragons and psychics are?
Good point. :P
But if it didn't affect at least one of those types, I think it would be quite underpowered. :P

EDIT: http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?313689-If-new-pokemon-types-arise-what-do-you-think-that-they-will-be

Well look at that. :P Almost identical to what I'm thinking of. Except for Dragon, and it has more weaknesses...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on December 07, 2012, 05:40:53 PM
But psychics and dragons are some of my favorite types :( What about psychic makes you think its more evil than dark? I mean its dark, which is literally the opposite of light.

And if your aiming to be creating a new type I dont think it would be fair to make it that psychic pokemon have two types that it has no effect on. I feel that puts it at a disadvantage
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 07, 2012, 05:49:44 PM
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on December 07, 2012, 05:40:53 PMBut psychics and dragons are some of my favorite types :( What about psychic makes you think its more evil than dark? I mean its dark, which is literally the opposite of light.

And if your aiming to be creating a new type I dont think it would be fair to make it that psychic pokemon have two types that it has no effect on. I feel that puts it at a disadvantage
I only said partly...

...but Ghost Pokemon have two types that don't affect them, although that's different... And look at how many 1/2x types Steel has, although that still is different.

What type would you suggest the immunity to be? Or just cut it altogether?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on December 07, 2012, 06:01:16 PM
It's a bit of a stupid idea to have a Light-type, it just doesn't work as well. I don't think we need any more types currently.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on December 07, 2012, 06:05:21 PM
There's a rumor saying there's gonna be a new type in Gen 6. I wonder if it's true or not.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 07, 2012, 06:13:54 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on December 07, 2012, 06:05:21 PMThere's a rumor saying there's gonna be a new type in Gen 6. I wonder if it's true or not.
There were rumors about a new type in Generation 4. And especially Light-type in Generation 5, because of the White/Black, Yin/Yang theme.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on December 07, 2012, 06:29:46 PM
I know that. I read that rumor recently, and it was also saying that the new gen games would be released in 2014.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on December 07, 2012, 06:31:36 PM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on December 07, 2012, 05:49:44 PMI only said partly...

...but Ghost Pokemon have two types that don't affect them, although that's different... And look at how many 1/2x types Steel has, although that still is different.

What type would you suggest the immunity to be? Or just cut it altogether?

Bleh. I did alot of counting math using the types advantages/disadvantages and found out that type wise, Steel has the best advantage, while Grass is the worst. Im sure they made up for that by the stats and power of steel/grass pokemon and moves, since they were so far above and below the average that it would seem a little ridiculous if they werent. Your Light type was just about in the middle of everything XD

But slow is right. Light is a useless type unless you replace phychic's advantages, since the opposite of light is dark. I seriously doubt that after so long they would change things like dark's immunity to phychic, since it would make more sense if dark was immune to light (or light immune to dark)

If you really want to have a non-effective type for your light pokemon's defense I would suggest dark, since it would make the most sense without upsetting the psychic balance
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on December 07, 2012, 08:26:31 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on December 07, 2012, 06:05:21 PMThere's a rumor saying there's gonna be a new type in Gen 6. I wonder if it's true or not.

Oh? Where did you hear that, just out of curiosity?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on December 08, 2012, 12:26:05 AM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on December 07, 2012, 02:09:15 PMLight-type (I know, everybody wants to do a Light-type!! :P) + reasoning behind each.
OFFENSIVE:
2x Dragon; light, the good and pure, slay the evil dragons. :P
2x Electric; light can be associated with electricity, etc.
2x Dark; light triumphs over dark, etc.
1/2x Fire, Water, Grass; main elemental powers
0x Normal; Normal types are "pure."

DEFFENSIVE:
1/2x Dragon; provided in 2x statements.
1/2x Psychic
2x Fire, Water, Grass; main elemental powers
2x Normal; discusses in 0x statement above.
0x Dark; if you have a constant light source (if taken in a literal sense), then there's always going to be a little bubble of light around you. :P
Light type should be focused into these types:
Dark, Ghost, Bug, Steel, (Grass and Fire)
It does not make any sense whatsoever why Light is super-effective against Dragon and Electric.
Because this is basically a counterpart to the (weak) Dark-type, I think they should be evenly matched.

Here's what I think you should do:
Light and Dark are super-effective against each other.
Light is super-effective against Ghost and Bug.
Light has is not very effective against Steel, Fire, Grass, Electric and Light.

Light is weak to:
Dark, Ghost, Bug
Immune to Fighting (if the Pokemon are ghost-like creatures)

Quote from: SlowPokemon on December 07, 2012, 06:01:16 PMIt's a bit of a stupid idea to have a Light-type, it just doesn't work as well. I don't think we need any more types currently.
I agree, but I think this is for a game he's making or something. But there's no sense to add a new type this late.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: dahans on December 08, 2012, 01:54:08 AM
Quote from: Roz~ on December 07, 2012, 06:29:46 PMI know that. I read that rumor recently, and it was also saying that the new gen games would be released in 2014.

Wow there will be a 6th Gen? btw does anyone know the sales figures of Pokemon BW 2? Were they good? It's just interesting me.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on December 08, 2012, 03:37:55 AM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on December 08, 2012, 12:26:05 AMI agree, but I think this is for a game he's making or something. But there's no sense to add a new type this late.
Light-type would be kinda stupid, considering many pokemon, to date, would be pretty obvious light-types (like Lanturn and Chinchou, or the Litwick family) - If they introduced light-type, they would be kinda obligated to change these pokemon into partially light-types, like they did with Magnemite in gen 2 - and that would be a terrible terrible mess.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on December 08, 2012, 06:55:30 AM
Quote from: dahans on December 08, 2012, 01:54:08 AMWow there will be a 6th Gen? btw does anyone know the sales figures of Pokemon BW 2? Were they good? It's just interesting me.

according to Wikipedia (with a reference page)... As of September 2012, Pokémon Black 2 and White 2 have combined sales of 4.26 million copies worldwide.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on December 08, 2012, 07:43:17 AM
5th did gen immensely well despite the cries of the genwunners, "all these pokemon look lame they aren't like gen one WAHHHH!"

So, yes, a 6th gen is possible.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on December 08, 2012, 07:44:34 AM
I loved the 5th generation. They introduced so many cool looking Pokemon.

Also, I love it how we're already talking about Generation 6. It feels like only yesterday Generation 5 was released...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on December 08, 2012, 07:52:19 AM
5th is one my of favorites, along with gen 3.

And yeah, it's weird... I feel so old... ._.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on December 08, 2012, 08:19:33 AM
Gen 2 will always own a special place in my heart.

Quote from: Nebbles on December 08, 2012, 07:52:19 AMAnd yeah, it's weird... I feel so old... ._.
Me too. .-.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on December 08, 2012, 08:21:26 AM
They'd be foolish not to consider the series, it will make so much money.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on December 08, 2012, 08:40:26 AM
How many gens would it go to, though?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on December 08, 2012, 08:48:53 AM
So far, until Nintendo sells itself to another company.

aka the day when the world ends
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on December 08, 2012, 09:09:32 AM
Quote from: Jompa on December 08, 2012, 03:37:55 AMLight-type would be kinda stupid, considering many pokemon, to date, would be pretty obvious light-types (like Lanturn and Chinchou, or the Litwick family) - If they introduced light-type, they would be kinda obligated to change these pokemon into partially light-types, like they did with Magnemite in gen 2 - and that would be a terrible terrible mess.
You're right...it's almost too late to add in another type. It would confuse almost everyone except new players. I would even be kinda distraught over learning new playing mechanics.

Quote from: Nebbles on December 08, 2012, 07:43:17 AM5th did gen immensely well despite the cries of the genwunners, "all these pokemon look lame they aren't like gen one WAHHHH!"
lol 5th DID gen.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on December 08, 2012, 09:10:18 AM
...ahah woops. XD I must have still been very tired.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on December 08, 2012, 09:25:32 AM
I wouldn't mind a new type as long as it made sense. I'm more interested in new type combinations like Ground/Fighting
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on December 08, 2012, 09:26:45 AM
I don't want new types.... I rather have new type combos. I want more ghost type combos! And bug!

Ghost/steel? :o Bug/dragon? Bug/ice? We need 'em!!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on December 08, 2012, 09:38:49 AM
I was really surprised when Kyurem + Reshiram/Zekrom ended up both being Dragon/Ice

Was really looking forward to Ice/Electric and Ice/Fire
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on December 08, 2012, 09:40:27 AM
Quote from: spitllama on December 08, 2012, 09:38:49 AMIce/Fire
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi2.pinger.pl%2Fpgr280%2F16656c42001dd29350b60515%2Fgenius.jpg&hash=46b0349ce2617f3cb2c3ed9b14d89beccf7c576a)

couldn't resist
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on December 08, 2012, 09:42:04 AM
Ice/Fire would be cool though, but ground and rock types would murder them completely.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on December 08, 2012, 09:43:03 AM
omg

Ice/Fire = Water-type

*mindblown*
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on December 08, 2012, 10:35:38 AM
Yah they wouldn't exactly be good... but oh well new type combos are fun.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on December 08, 2012, 10:37:14 AM
it's pokemon, come on. If they can work water/ground and ice/grass I'm sure ice/fire or fire/water wouldn't be too bad...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 08, 2012, 11:50:40 AM
Quote from: Nebbles on December 08, 2012, 07:43:17 AM5th did gen immensely well despite the cries of the genwunners, "all these pokemon look lame they aren't like gen one WAHHHH!"
"Lame" looking Pokemon are nothing new... Muk is a pile of toxic sludge... Electrode is an inverted Pokeball with eyes... Beauty is in the eye of the beholder- trainer. :P
My favorite generations are 2 and 5: I felt as if GSC paved the way for what eventually became Black/White and BW2. Gen 3 felt a little... imcomplete... especially because of the lack of a proper Day/Night system, which only came back in later games.

Quote from: Nebbles on December 08, 2012, 09:26:45 AMI don't want new types.... I rather have new type combos. I want more ghost type combos! And bug!

Ghost/steel? :o Bug/dragon? Bug/ice? We need 'em!!
Smogon made a Bug/Ice Pokemon in their CAP project... givin' Game Freak ideas!! :)
A Ghost/Bug Pokemon would be neat...

Finally: I think you should be able to combine Reshiram, Zekrom, and Kyurem into the original dragon.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on December 08, 2012, 11:51:47 AM
If they're going to stick with FWG starters, they should totally have abilities that make them immune to their weakness. Fire gets Water Absorb or Storm Drain, Water gets Sap Sipper, Grass gets Flash Fire.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on December 08, 2012, 12:13:29 PM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on December 08, 2012, 11:50:40 AMA Ghost/Bug Pokemon would be neat...
Oh god. A ghost bug would be terrifying.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 08, 2012, 12:23:10 PM
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on December 08, 2012, 12:13:29 PMOh god. A ghost bug would be terrifying.
Can you think of a possible name for it? Quite maybe even a legendary, based on a Water Bear? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tardigrade) Or something more mystical?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on December 08, 2012, 12:25:20 PM
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on December 08, 2012, 12:13:29 PMOh god. A ghost bug would be terrifying.
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on December 08, 2012, 12:23:10 PMCan you think of a possible name for it? Quite maybe even a legendary, based on a Water Bear? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tardigrade) Or something more mystical?
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.chzbgr.com%2Fcompletestore%2F2011%2F7%2F22%2F70036b86-10c4-4c29-80a0-ddf95d3bc72c.jpg&hash=0896edceea25ecf6f130d206b6d98037db96fca7)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 08, 2012, 12:27:42 PM
Quote from: Shadoninja on December 08, 2012, 12:25:20 PM(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.fjcdn.com%2Fpictures%2FThe_23388f_1372944.jpg&hash=e5d4c0c00c633875d23e12dafa6ab7000498cf35)
Image does not work. But I assume you're talking about Shedinja? :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on December 08, 2012, 12:30:08 PM
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on December 08, 2012, 12:13:29 PMOh god. A ghost bug would be terrifying.
you're kidding, right?

Shedinja.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 08, 2012, 12:33:09 PM
Quote from: Kman96 on December 08, 2012, 12:30:08 PMyou're kidding, right?

Shedinja.
I just mentioned it above. But, we mean a Pokemon with... uh... better stats. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: the_last_sheikah on December 08, 2012, 12:37:01 PM
So I guess I started an impromptu Nuzlocke Challenge on an Emerald ROM.  I'll keep you guys posted if anything interesting happens.
Team so far:
Wormy (Wurmple)
Kyle (Poochyena)
Skipper (Mudkip)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on December 08, 2012, 12:41:30 PM
Quote from: Shadoninja on December 08, 2012, 11:51:47 AMIf they're going to stick with FWG starters, they should totally have abilities that make them immune to their weakness. Fire gets Water Absorb or Storm Drain, Water gets Sap Sipper, Grass gets Flash Fire.

The starters are meant to follow a simple rock-paper-scissors formula with easily distinguishable types. They won't change grass-fire-water in a main series game for a while. And I doubt they'll nullify the rock-paper-scissors concept either. It would be a little too confusing for beginner players. If anything, these abilities would pop up in a trio of legendaries or other 'mons such as the Elemental Monkeys.

That being said, I loved the take on a "two way" rock-paper-scissors they tried in Diamond/Pearl. Two of the fully evolved starters were able to hit super-effectively both ways. The last one got its weaknesses nulled out instead (taking normal damage from Grass, but it was able to deal normal damage in return as well thanks to Torterra's typing).


I recall reading an interview with some higher-ups at GameFreak a couple of years back. They stated that they'll keep making Pokémon "As long as it makes money". In other words, might as well prepare for Gen. VII while you're at it. I think most of the forumers here will experience their children asking for the newest Pokémon games. That would be Gen. IX or thereabouts for some of us, earlier or later for others.

Wonder how they'll handle having so many Pokémon in the franchise, though. Those of us who complained about Gen. V designs being "clones" of earlier designs better get used to it, I think.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on December 08, 2012, 12:44:53 PM
Quote from: Kman96 on December 08, 2012, 12:30:08 PMyou're kidding, right?

Shedinja.
Derp. Wow I cant believe I forgot that XD

Hes still terrifying
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 08, 2012, 12:46:19 PM
Quote from: Cobraroll on December 08, 2012, 12:41:30 PMI recall reading an interview with some higher-ups at GameFreak a couple of years back. They stated that they'll keep making Pokémon "As long as it makes money". In other words, might as well prepare for Gen. VII while you're at it. I think most of the forumers here will experience their children asking for the newest Pokémon games. That would be Gen. IX or thereabouts for some of us, earlier or later for others.

Wonder how they'll handle having so many Pokémon in the franchise, though. Those of us who complained about Gen. V designs being "clones" of earlier designs better get used to it, I think.
"...and now with over 1,000 Pokemon to catch!!"

Getting them all will be a feat... remakes of Black and White in the future... Virtual Reality technology...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on December 08, 2012, 04:43:27 PM
New Topic.

What do you think about HM slavery?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 08, 2012, 04:50:29 PM
Quote from: SocialFox on December 08, 2012, 04:43:27 PMNew Topic.

What do you think about HM slavery?
Obvious statement: Not always good for competitive battling... unless it's Flash + Surf. :P :P Not really...
Gameplay: There are reasons.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on December 08, 2012, 04:55:14 PM
nothing wrong with HM slaves, especially for solo runs.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on December 08, 2012, 05:15:50 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on December 08, 2012, 09:42:04 AMIce/Fire would be cool though, but ground and rock types would murder them completely.

Actually, just Rock. Ground is only 1x damage on Ice.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on December 08, 2012, 05:20:25 PM
right, I forget that a lot.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on December 08, 2012, 09:58:40 PM
So that new Pokémon movie was really kinda disappointing...All it was about was how Keldeo was a chicken and ran away from Kyurem in the middle of a battle, so it followed suit. After teaming up with Ash, they basically run around avoiding Kyurem so they can go back to where Keldeo ran away from. Keldeo vs. Kyurem: Keldeo still loses, but "Friendship is what matters in the end."

LAAAAAAAAAAAME. Not even a legit plot. Nothing. No ancient legend, nothing.

Oh, btw, I guess Kyurem is the strongest Dragon-type Pokémon in the world, just because it can "harness the power of Reshiram and Zekrom." That's about as ancient of a legend that's in it.

Still disappointed.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on December 08, 2012, 10:05:08 PM
Eh, it was better than what I expected.

some of the voice acting, though...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on December 08, 2012, 10:59:39 PM
Keldeo's voice...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on December 08, 2012, 11:12:59 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on December 08, 2012, 10:05:08 PMsome of the voice acting, though...
Quote from: spitllama on December 08, 2012, 10:59:39 PMKeldeo's voice...
What was wrong with the voice acting? I just didn't like the plot- voice acting is never reliable...How I wish (and I had to look this one up)Veronica Taylor was still the voice for Ash...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 09, 2012, 12:21:17 AM
Hey guys...
I took the Pokemon Green Blastoise sprite and "modernized" it; why didn't they just do that for Firered and Leafgreen... :P
I should be working on Bircrow... :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on December 09, 2012, 12:24:11 AM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on December 09, 2012, 12:21:17 AMBircrow
._. You do know that there is a Pokemon called Murkrow?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 09, 2012, 11:45:31 AM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on December 09, 2012, 12:24:11 AM._. You do know that there is a Pokemon called Murkrow?
Yes; you do know that they're both crow Pokemon. :P Except mine is a more "realistic" take on the Carrion Crow concept. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on December 09, 2012, 12:14:52 PM
Please do not make a Pokemon that has it's name copied from another Pokemon. Make something original!

I'm just trying to help, that's all.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on December 09, 2012, 12:26:07 PM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on December 09, 2012, 12:14:52 PMPlease do not make up your own Pokemon.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on December 09, 2012, 12:32:56 PM
Let the boy dream, Slow. At least he's putting his creativity in use.


but...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 09, 2012, 12:43:25 PM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on December 09, 2012, 12:32:56 PMLet the boy dream, Slow. At least he's putting his creativity in use.


but...
Big things have small beginnings, as I have heard. Learning how to sprite is another incentive. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on December 09, 2012, 12:50:41 PM
^It's so hard to ever take you seriously because you put that :P face on every one of your posts!
You're abusing that smiley.

Anyone else noticed this?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 09, 2012, 01:03:00 PM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on December 09, 2012, 12:50:41 PM^It's so hard to ever take you seriously because you put that :P face on every one of your posts!
You're abusing that smiley.

Anyone else noticed this?
Sorry... it's a bit of a habit I've picked up in my "travels" across the internet.

QuoteBirchomp...
...This is actually more morbid, as it references chomping on carrion...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: EFitTrainr on December 10, 2012, 09:09:25 AM
Guys did you know that if Kman was a Pokemon he would be a Slowpoke

It's true

We established this in 8th grade
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on December 12, 2012, 02:51:12 PM
On YouTube:

"Don't be hatin' on legendary pokemon. It's not "weak" to use them. In fact, it's the exact opposite. Using a legendary pokemon in battle is a testament to your prowess as a trainer in the fact that you had enough skill to track them down and capture them."

Maybe if you've EV trained them and actually SRed to get a decent IV and nature for use in competitive battles. Then it could be considered a testament to prowess.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Zunawe on December 12, 2012, 03:22:32 PM
Of course, is soft resetting for IVs and training their EVs any more difficult than eggs of normal Pokemon? The only difference is catching the legendary vs taking a few thousand steps.

Roaming legendaries, I could say that's true though.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on December 12, 2012, 03:38:37 PM
I'd say that eggs (egging?) require skill as well. It's the difference between "omg I caught a Pokemon" vs. "omg I caught a Pokemon that doesn't have a naughty nature and can actually do shit."
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Zunawe on December 12, 2012, 06:21:10 PM
That's what I was saying. Even the leeway you gave that YouTube statement could be questioned because hatching a hundred eggs is just as (if not more) time consuming than re-battling and catching legendaries.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on December 12, 2012, 06:33:14 PM
Yet also, we've got normal pokemon that have higher stats in legendaries... and also using legendaries automatically doesn't make you a fantastic trainer, which some people don't seem to realize.

There are non legendary pokemon, which yes they are pretty much in the OU or uber tier that can outclass legendaries. EV training those pokemon and defeating legendary pokemon are possible.

On the subject of hatching GOD IT TAKE A VERY LONG TIME. It depends what you want, and your luck. Like... with getting a female hasty Snorunt, that took some time. My Technician, Adamant Scyther? Not fun. Modest Venonat? 8 or so eggs.

Point is, legendaries don't make you some great trainer.   
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on December 12, 2012, 07:00:06 PM
When I used to play OU singles back when Heartgold/Soulsilver came out, I'd see a lot of noobs with ubers only teams. And I remember owning them. Having a bunch of "strong" 'mons doesn't mean anything if the team doesn't have any synergy.
As for the hatching taking a long time: Fast Hatch code huehuehue :3
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: the_last_sheikah on December 12, 2012, 07:06:05 PM
(https://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/12/10/13/fm13Xxz58E63RtI9ZmXN9A2.jpg)
or IVs, or natures, or any of that stuff?  I almost always just use pokemon I like, not necessarily the "best" ones.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on December 12, 2012, 07:11:20 PM
Eh, I got into the competitive scene after a while and ended up loving it. To each their own.

And yes, the teams have to work together! People don't understand that!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on December 12, 2012, 07:13:22 PM
I remember battling a team with 6 dragons on the GBU
Well hello I have Heatran and a couple guys with Ice moves

Quote from: the_last_sheikah on December 12, 2012, 07:06:05 PM(https://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/12/10/13/fm13Xxz58E63RtI9ZmXN9A2.jpg)
or IVs, or natures, or any of that stuff?  I almost always just use pokemon I like, not necessarily the "best" ones.

I don't care about it when I play in-game, but you have to care about that stuff if you play competitively.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on December 12, 2012, 07:17:42 PM
Graah vermillion gym is so annoying.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on December 12, 2012, 07:18:00 PM
God those trashcans

just

no
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: the_last_sheikah on December 12, 2012, 07:29:26 PM
SERIOUSLY!  WHO THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA FOR A PUZZLE?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on December 12, 2012, 07:46:24 PM
Oh please, they're bad, but not as bad as Professor Layton has been to my brain.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on December 12, 2012, 07:58:45 PM
Quote from: spitllama on December 12, 2012, 02:51:12 PMOn YouTube:

"Don't be hatin' on legendary pokemon. It's not "weak" to use them. In fact, it's the exact opposite. Using a legendary pokemon in battle is a testament to your prowess as a trainer in the fact that you had enough skill to track them down and capture them."

Maybe if you've EV trained them and actually SRed to get a decent IV and nature for use in competitive battles. Then it could be considered a testament to prowess.
I've never understood this blanket hate for legendaries. Sure there are some that are ungodly powerful and are annoying to face when I'm using UU- pokes. But then there are those with higher than average stats but are still easy to take out. And then there are nubers, Ubers with noobish movesets (Arceus with Tackle).

Quote from: the_last_sheikah on December 12, 2012, 07:06:05 PM(https://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/12/10/13/fm13Xxz58E63RtI9ZmXN9A2.jpg)
or IVs, or natures, or any of that stuff?  I almost always just use pokemon I like, not necessarily the "best" ones.
Quote from: Roz~ on December 12, 2012, 07:13:22 PMI don't care about it when I play in-game, but you have to care about that stuff if you play competitively.
I don't care either in-game, though I will use the items and wings when I can.
I build teams around pokemon I like. For example, I have a UU team with a Scrafty/Slowbro Core. Two pokemans I use to support them are Rotom and Zapdos.

Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 12, 2012, 08:03:11 PM
Quote from: Shadoninja on December 12, 2012, 07:58:45 PMI've never understood this blanket hate for legendaries. Sure there are some that are ungodly powerful and are annoying to face when I'm using UU- pokes. But then there are those with higher than average stats but are still easy to take out. And then there are nubers, Ubers with noobish movesets (Arceus with Tackle).
There are some people, though, who rely only on using ultra-strong legendaries (e.g. Arceus without Tackle :P) to win; without them, they can't figure out any significantly "exceptional" strategies.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on December 12, 2012, 08:20:12 PM
Well, those are people who are like "yeah I know how to battle" and just use them. It's not everyone, but hey, it happens.

Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on December 12, 2012, 08:52:12 PM
Oh don't get me wrong I love legendaries. They're comfy and easy to wear fun and really pull the games together. I just don't think that catching them constitutes being a sooper awsum trainer. Gotta put a wee bit more work into it before you can claim that.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on December 14, 2012, 06:25:29 PM
A lot of people hack them anyways =P

Anyone else playing in the Nintendo Wifi tournament? It's pretty fun.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on December 15, 2012, 08:04:40 AM
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6837391616/h334B881E/)

omg
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on December 15, 2012, 08:08:19 AM
Rumored.

I really don't take a lot of things for truth from "did you know" things. Yeah, rumored, so what? It was rumored Mew was behind the truck and that never came true??
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on December 15, 2012, 08:16:13 AM
I always get the feeling "Why have I never noticed this?!" when I see that kind of stuff.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on December 15, 2012, 07:39:52 PM
Quote from: SocialFox on December 12, 2012, 07:17:42 PMGraah vermillion gym is so annoying.
Quote from: Nebbles on December 12, 2012, 07:18:00 PMGod those trashcans

just

no
If I was the leader and I wanted to troll trainers, I would totally have a switch behind the gate so that they can't get both of them.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 15, 2012, 08:37:23 PM
Quote from: Shadoninja on December 15, 2012, 07:39:52 PMIf I was the leader and I wanted to troll trainers, I would totally have a switch behind the gate so that they can't get both of them.
I would have it where you had to run across a long strip, with one switch on each side (e.g. impossible to do unless you can run at twice the speed of a bicycle).
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on December 15, 2012, 08:51:20 PM
Quote from: Shadoninja on December 15, 2012, 07:39:52 PMIf I was the leader and I wanted to troll trainers, I would totally have a switch behind the gate so that they can't get both of them.

You'd definitely be my favorite gym leader ever. :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on December 15, 2012, 10:17:10 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on December 15, 2012, 08:08:19 AMRumored.
One doesn't come from the other, they both come from something else.

It's the motif of the trinity that doesn't just appear in Pokemon and Zelda but also everywhere?
Mind, Body, Spirit
Wisdom, Power, Courage
Knowledge, Willpower, Emotion

etc etc etc
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 16, 2012, 04:26:12 PM
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.ifcdn.com%2Fimages%2F79a7ffb13c9c1700d7538f44aefe975eb7952e71_1.jpg&hash=8a80e973d1bd08acb6ea66e14dd9c28aa7f038f5)

Well why not?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on December 16, 2012, 04:38:27 PM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on December 16, 2012, 04:26:12 PM*pic*

Well wynaut?
Fixed.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on December 20, 2012, 01:06:55 PM
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net%2Fhphotos-prn1%2F537509_276432325812052_1100568479_n.png&hash=3f27e358b7dc4a8995de6eec8d67e240c2aea457)

Yep.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on December 20, 2012, 01:08:36 PM
I am excite :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on December 20, 2012, 02:19:33 PM
Quote from: Jub3r7 on December 20, 2012, 01:06:55 PM(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net%2Fhphotos-prn1%2F537509_276432325812052_1100568479_n.png&hash=3f27e358b7dc4a8995de6eec8d67e240c2aea457)
Oh my god, that looks awesome.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on December 20, 2012, 02:20:28 PM
I can't wait for it.... I'm still a little bummed about the lack of variety in starters, but whatever.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 20, 2012, 04:26:47 PM
http://www.dragonflycave.com/newtypetool.asp

This IS the ultimate type tool. A little hard to use at first (and bland), but look at what it does! You can create an invincible type...! Or a really weak one... whatever use that would have (challenge modes come to mind :P).
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on December 20, 2012, 04:27:44 PM
Oooh, huh. That'd be useful for making some fakemon...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 24, 2012, 01:05:36 AM
Ok, this has always bothered me:
In G1 (or remakes), after you defeat Lance, he says that Blue became the champion, because he got there first, and defeated them, etc. You (Red) go on to defeat Blue, becoming the champion. In G2, Red, of course, is the champion (or, more properly, was, since Lance is the one you fight, because Red left to go train at Mt. Silver).
Who was the champion in G1, before Blue? Certainly Blue had to fight somebody else in order to become the champion (like Red)... or was there no champion prior to that point? (as in, nobody had been strong enough to defeat the Elite Four beforehand).
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on December 24, 2012, 01:24:30 AM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on December 24, 2012, 01:05:36 AMOk, this has always bothered me:
In G1 (or remakes), after you defeat Lance, he says that Blue became the champion, because he got there first, and defeated them, etc. You (Red) go on to defeat Blue, becoming the champion. In G2, Red, of course, is the champion (or, more properly, was, since Lance is the one you fight, because Red left to go train at Mt. Silver).
Who was the champion in G1, before Blue? Certainly Blue had to fight somebody else in order to become the champion (like Red)... or was there no champion prior to that point? (as in, nobody had been strong enough to defeat the Elite Four beforehand).
I think Lance.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 24, 2012, 01:31:52 AM
Quote from: SocialFox on December 24, 2012, 01:24:30 AMI think Lance.
Maybe? As in:
Lance was the champion, but was "bumped down" upon being defeated (meaning that the previous first member of the Elite Four, possibly Will or Karen, was "kicked off").
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on December 24, 2012, 02:11:39 AM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on December 24, 2012, 01:31:52 AMMaybe? As in:
Lance was the champion, but was "bumped down" upon being defeated (meaning that the previous first member of the Elite Four, possibly Will or Karen, was "kicked off").
Something like that.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 24, 2012, 03:47:53 AM
Well; that would mean that all the members of the Elite Four might fight amongst themselves for higher "rank." :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: MoboMoga on December 24, 2012, 08:57:40 AM
I think they just negotiated the topic of who becomes champ instead of battling each other for the place.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on December 24, 2012, 06:34:58 PM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on December 24, 2012, 01:05:36 AMOk, this has always bothered me:
In G1 (or remakes), after you defeat Lance, he says that Blue became the champion, because he got there first, and defeated them, etc. You (Red) go on to defeat Blue, becoming the champion. In G2, Red, of course, is the champion (or, more properly, was, since Lance is the one you fight, because Red left to go train at Mt. Silver).
Who was the champion in G1, before Blue? Certainly Blue had to fight somebody else in order to become the champion (like Red)... or was there no champion prior to that point? (as in, nobody had been strong enough to defeat the Elite Four beforehand).
Obviously it was Professor Oak.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 24, 2012, 06:43:29 PM
Quote from: Shadoninja on December 24, 2012, 06:34:58 PMObviously it was Professor Oak.
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_lthph6HaFU1qdmzwao1_500.jpg&hash=3b634ea229c4cbd917d1f8c642c036aaa2753ea5)

Why of course it does.

Another thing:
How did Oak get past the Elite Four so quickly; does he have some Pokemon he doesn't tell anybody about, or can he just walk right past them because he's a professor? :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: EFitTrainr on December 24, 2012, 06:49:55 PM
Actually according to the Pokemon Adventures Manga, it WAS Professor Oak
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on December 24, 2012, 06:55:16 PM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on December 24, 2012, 06:43:29 PMHow did Oak get past the Elite Four so quickly; does he have some Pokemon he doesn't tell anybody about, or can he just walk right past them because he's a professor? :P

He has a Tauros, Exeggutor, Arcanine, Gyarados, and one of the three fully evolved starters. And he doesn't need to "just walk past them" because he was already the champion.
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Professor_Oak#Unused_teams
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 24, 2012, 08:45:35 PM
Quote from: Shadoninja on December 24, 2012, 06:55:16 PMHe has a Tauros, Exeggutor, Arcanine, Gyarados, and one of the three fully evolved starters. And he doesn't need to "just walk past them" because he was already the champion.
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Professor_Oak#Unused_teams
...but Oak stopped battling a while ago...? :P

This explains it a little more:
"Agatha said that he became soft and started to regard him as a fool. However, Oak still affiliates with the Pokémon League as an adviser."
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on December 25, 2012, 07:35:57 PM
Trying to watch the Keldeo movie :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on December 25, 2012, 09:30:40 PM
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on December 25, 2012, 07:35:57 PMTrying to watch the Keldeo movie :D
I thought it was lame. :/
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on December 25, 2012, 10:38:33 PM
It seemed really short, like if they wanted to they could have shoved it into a 2 part episode or something
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on December 26, 2012, 09:21:40 PM
Can someone please explain how to successfully complete "brycen man strikes back 2" with rental Pokemon? I'm losing every time.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on December 26, 2012, 10:18:53 PM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on December 24, 2012, 01:05:36 AMOk, this has always bothered me:
In G1 (or remakes), after you defeat Lance, he says that Blue became the champion, because he got there first, and defeated them, etc. You (Red) go on to defeat Blue, becoming the champion. In G2, Red, of course, is the champion (or, more properly, was, since Lance is the one you fight, because Red left to go train at Mt. Silver).
Who was the champion in G1, before Blue? Certainly Blue had to fight somebody else in order to become the champion (like Red)... or was there no champion prior to that point? (as in, nobody had been strong enough to defeat the Elite Four beforehand).

Read this through to the end for a good idea. Apologies in advance for grammar/spelling errors, didn't proofread this (or write it)

Quote from: K-NiGhT on March 08, 2012, 09:38:31 PMIf you haven't heard of a Pokemon Creepypasta, you've obviously been living under a rock. For those of you who aren't enlightened, a Pokemon Creepypasta is just a scary story associated with Pokemon. But don't worry! They're always fake. Well, ALMOST always...
NOTE: these are reblogged from a tumblr page full of creepypastas. If you feel like adding to it, do so.

Strangled Red
      There are tons of stories out there about hacked pokemon games. Some of them really quite neat such as the one about a version where you get a ghost as a starter. Some are ridiculous as well, silly stories about people dying after playing a game, or the game talking to them. God, don't these writers know less is more when it comes to this stuff? Ah well, I digress.
       I grew interested in these hacked games that are apparently in any thrift store, on ebay, or handed out by homeless people to random passersby. I didn't have the pleasure of meeting these creepy people, I merely found this particular cartridge in a trash bin when the garbage truck backed into my neighbor's dumpster. I noticed the game and asked the trash man if I could take it, and he didn't seem to mind. It was thrown away after all. I of coarse checked with my neighbor to confirm if they actually didn't want it, though they seemed perplexed, as if they'd never seen it in their life. Their son made a grab for it, a little boy who saw the charizard on the cover, crying out "Pokemon! I want mommy!", but his mother told him no, seeing as I found it. He didn't even have a game boy anyway, he just liked pokemon.
       Thinking nothing more, I simply went home, looking at the cartridge's sticker on the way. Just a plain old Red Version, the sticker torn slightly across the Charizard's neck, but that was expected with such an old game. I had Blue Version as a kid, so I was a bit eager to see the, albeit minimal, differences Red Version had. I was rather disappointed by what I saw when the title screen showed up.
       "Pokemon: Strangled Red Version."


       Well damn it, it was a hack. Hacks were neat and all, but they had zero monetary value, the originals quite valuable by now, and I wanted to play Red anyway, not this crap. Oh well, it was free, might as well try it. The name was odd however, Strangled Red? That made no sense, not even in a morbid description of someone being asphyxiated, as people turn blue when chocking, not red. Who knows, maybe there was a pair of these hacks and I just got the red one.
       The more I thought about this though, the more interested I became. My initial disappointment turned into curiosity, I wanted to know what the creator had made, and I was going to note everything I saw. The first oddity I noticed was the start screen had a Charizard next to the trainer instead of a Charmander, also, the pokemon never cycled through like the original versions did, it just stayed Charizard, even after five minutes of waiting. Shrugging, I hit start, noticing there was no cry Charizard as I did like there was supposed to be.
       I saw there was a "Continue" option, so I figured I'd do what everyone did with used games and see what the previous owner had done.
       "...No..."
       I blinked in surprise. No? What do you mean no? The game wouldn't let me continue no matter what, though on the fourth attempt, I heard the Charizard cry, quiet and barely audible, but there. Shrugging it off, I decided to just hit New Game, like I would have done after checking the old file anyway.
       The screen cut to black for a while, no Prof. Oak, no starting theme, just nothing at all. Eventually, the screen came back, showing a bedroom, two beds, two TVs, and a computer in the corner. My trainer sprite was the usual one, consistent with the original Red Version. I was curious as to why it didn't ask my name, though that was answered as I opened the pause menu, noticing my Trainer was named "Steven". No, this isn't my real name or some stupid crap like that, this game isn't self-aware or haunted, at least not that I know of, it just had a name chosen already. Curious, I saw he had the starter amount of money, no badges. He didn't look like red though, his hair was longer, almost reaching halfway down his back, Red's usual smile replaced with a confident smirk. Honestly, I found this sprite much cooler than Red.
       Next I checked out his pokemon, a single Charmander, level five, named "Miki". Nothing was odd about it...or should I say her, with the name and all. She had beginning Charmander stats, only knew Scratch and Tail Whip, basic stuff. The game seemed relatively normal. Returning to the game, I walked about the room, noticing Steven's long-hair was present on the back of my trainer sprite when my back was turned to the camera. I didn't recognize the house, but I descended the stairs to see more. Downstairs was another trainer, who spoke to me the instant I came down.
     
       Mike: Ready yet?
       Steven: Yeah.
     
       I assumed this "Mike" was my rival, pre-decided for me, a replacement of Blue most likely, though I thought back to the bedroom having two beds, realizing they weren't just rivals, they were brothers. They talked back and forth, basic pokemon dialogue, become a pokemaster, catch em all, stuff like that, before having a little argument over which is better, Charmander or Squirtle, which of coarse led to the introduction battle, like the one vs. Blue in the lab. Simple enough, Scratch, Tackle, Scratch, Tackle, til I won purely for having the first turn. I took note of how much better Steven's sprite looked in combat than Red's, a different pose, his hair looking like it was blowing in the wind, a brief, minor upgrade, but still, much nicer. I left the house after some more banter with my "brother", stepping out to the Pallet Town theme. Going to the east, I found this was indeed Pallet Town, the house was simply on the outskirts to the west. I noted there was no mysterious grassy field like in normal Pallet Town. Wandering about, I decided to check in on Red's home. His mother was inside and when I talked to her, she commented on how handsome Steven looked, hoping her Son would look up to him as a role-model for when he became a trainer himself next year, which of coarse led me to realize this game took place a year before the original pokemon. Red was even upstairs, playing the SNES in his room, commenting "I'm gonna be the best too when its my turn!"
       I was starting to like this hack. It was interesting, a completely new adventure, a different character, hell, Steven even seemed to have a history with the people in his town, a reputation, a personality beyond a silent protagonist. The people in town talked to him as a person, making conversation, not just spouting tutorial crap. Even Blue's sister had new dialogue, they seemed to be in a relationship too, as the dialogue ended with a kiss and a heart over her head.
       Prof. Oak simply wished me well, giving me a Pokedex to aid my adventure. He wasn't giving it to me to be the reason behind the adventure like every other pokemon game out there, he gave it to me out of kindness, something to help me on my way, a gift. I was liking this more and more with each second, the game seemed to have an actual story now! I was somebody, not just a cookie-cutter protagonist anyone could be, not some blank sheet that could be replaced without notice.
       The story was different, though the actual game play remained unchanged. I went north like I was supposed to, went from town to town, collected badges, received the praise of the leaders. Steven's fame even seemed to spread, as some NPCs would talk like the knew him.
       I used Miki for every battle, and she was growing surprisingly fast. She handled Brock with ease, even pounded Misty with no trouble at all. She wasn't as adversely effected by super-effective attacks as others, did more damage than a regular Charmander, she was a veritable powerhouse! She even became a Charizard at the mere level of twenty-five, not bad at all I must say.
       Things started to get weird though as soon as I reached Lavender Town. I know, I know, Lavender Town is the focus behind every creepy story and the like, but it was the only place that was noticeably different. There was no Team Rocket invasion, which I found odd, though I did remember this was a year in the past, so the invasion wouldn't occur until Red's time. I tried to enter pokemon tower, aiming to get a Ghastly, but that's when it go odd.
     
       Steven: I have no reason to be here...
     
       Steven wouldn't go into Pokemon Tower no matter what I did. This was weird, I mean hell, there are a million places in Kanto you really have no need to be, little random houses with nothing but children NPCs for example. Why was it here that Steven wouldn't enter? With a shrug, I figured I wouldn't need a Ghastly, seeing as Miki could handle anything, so I simply went on my way, Lavender Town serving no purpose other than a passageway with a poke center.
       The game progressed normally from there, the remaining gyms fell and eventually I made my way to the Elite Four and defeated them. As with Blue, my "brother" Mike was there before me, initiating the championship battle, which Miki swept with ease. The aftermath of the battle was quite pleasant, none of the tension that was present between Red and Blue at the end of their match, the brothers congratulated each other on their progress and shook hands, before the screen went white, no Hall of Fame, nor any credits.
       When the screen came back, it was at the house again, the two brothers sitting at the computer, conversing with each other.
     
       Steven: I don't want too...
       Mike: Come on, I just gotta borrow her for a second to finish the Pokedex, the entry won't register unless she recognizes me as master for just a second.
       Steven: But she's my Miki...
       Mike: I promise I'll give her back, come on, please?
     
       ->Yes?
           No?
     
       I was a bit perplexed, so I hit No to be cautious.
       Mike: Come on, please?
     
       NO
     
       Mike: Come on, please?
     
       I realized this would simply continue to loop until I hit yes, so I did, just to see what would happen.
     
       Mike: Alright, this will just take a sec, then we'll both be pokemasters!
       Steven: ........
     
       The screen changed to the animation shown when two people trade pokemon, which I found a bit weird, seeing as I was solo, but whatever, this was what was apparently supposed to happen. Miki went first, I watched lazily as she began to travel down the trading tube.
     
       SNAP!
     
       That made me jump, the sudden noise resonating in my silent bedroom, loud due to the volume being way up. Looking at the screen, I noticed the game had seemed to freeze, Miki still in mid-trade, but the game wasn't doing anything. With a sigh, I just turned off the game, wondering when my last save was. When the game turned back on, I stared for a moment at the start screen, there was no Charizard next to the trainer. Upon pressing start, I saw the New Game option was absent, leaving only Continue. This was...strange to say the least, so I selected it, the game staring without even showing my stats as usual.
       My jaw dropped at what I was greeted with.
     
       ONE YEAR LATER
     
       The Lavender Town theme came first, playing its normal way, the screen slowly fading in from blackness. Steven was in the Pokemon Tower, which made the music even stranger, seeing as  the tower had its own theme. He was standing in front of a tombstone, not doing anything. Wondering what was going on, I pressed A.
     
       Steven: ...
       
       Confused, I tried walking, realizing I was indeed in control at the moment. I brought up the pause menu and checked my party. Miki was gone. Not just Miki, all pokemon. He had nothing, The Pokedex was absent from the menu, his bad was empty. Honestly concerned now, I checked his trainer card.
     
       He had no money. He had no badges. His play time was 8,795, which was impossible as I had only 30 logged in before. But that wasn't the strangest part.
       His picture, the picture of the handsome, confident young trainer was...different. His eyes were blank, his face turned slightly down, that smirk of his was gone, replaced by a lack of any expression at all, that long hair of his, before in a perfect perm, was now messy and unkempt. I couldn't look at him any more, closing the menu, I went to move out of the tower, but with every step I took away from the tombstone, the screen flickered, like it did when a pokemon was poisoned. Gulping, I brought up the trainer card again, his picture was getting worse. Every step I took, he hung his head more and more, his shoulder slumped, he bent over. By the time I had exited the tower, he was on his knees, hands to his face, hair draped across him.
       I had guessed already what was going on, but this clinched it. I began to put some things together in my mind. I had always wondered why there was no champion in the original games besides your rival. Why is it you, the protagonist, had to beat your rival, when he just waltzed in, no previous champion to challenge. Then, it struck me. The answer was right her.
       The previous champion gave up.
       His precious Miki was apparently dead, and with her, so died part of him. His Pokedex, the other pokemon, his badges, his fame, all of it, he threw it away. In that year, the year that I missed, the year where all those hours came from, I even did the math, there is 8765 hours in a year, add that to my 30 from before and it matched up.
       Even so, the game kept going, this should have been an ending I thought, I mean, what else was there to do? I had no Pokedex, no pokemon, not anything. What was I supposed to be doing? I talked to everyone in the town, but they all said similar things.
       
       "Are you ok?"
     
       "Still mourning I see..."
     
       "Everything will be alright..."
     
       "Please...Is there anything we can do?"
     
       Steven never replied to them, and they all simply said the same things over and over. I couldn't put the game down now, this was all so strange. Curious, I headed off into the tall grass, and eventually got into a battle with a Rattatta. No pokemon was sent out, just Steven's sprite. I was wondering how I'd battle.
     
       Wild RATTATTA left you be.
     
       The battle ended without anything happening. This was certainly interesting, and it happened with every pokemon I encountered.
     
       Wild PIDGEY ignored you.
     
       Wild PONYTA wandered off.
     
       The music never changed either. No matter where I went, Lavender Town came from the speakers, following me, sometimes slowed down slightly, sometimes not. I searched everywhere, every town, talked to every body, wondering just what the hell I needed to do. My frustration was mixing with the depressing atmosphere of all this, making the experience all together unnerving and uncomfortable, but I couldn't tear myself away. I was starting to get a bit angry though, nobody telling me anything besides giving me their condolences and trying to give me items like LEMONADE or COFFEE, each met with:
     
       Steven: ...No...
     
       I slapped myself for idiocy, suddenly realizing how the likely answer was right in front of me, Pallet Town of coarse! When I went there though, which took a long time, having to walk, no pokemon to fly with, no bicycle to ride, and Steven only seemed to move half the regular movement speed, it wasn't much different. I first tried talking to Prof. Oak.
     
       "These things happen...you were just unlucky."
     
       Next I tried Blue's sister.
     
       "Please...Don't leave home again..."
     
       Red's mom wouldn't even talk to me at all. With nowhere else in mind to go, I walked to the west, finding the house from the beginning, which I had never entered since leaving Pallet Town. Inside was Mike, but talking to him was just as useless.
     
       Mike: I'm so sorry...
     
       I pondered for a moment if this really was the ending, Steven doomed to do nothing but roam Kanto in misery, haunted by the memories, forced to listen to everyone's concerns about him. As a last ditch effort to do anything, I went to the bedroom and walked over to the bed.
     
       Steven: I'm going to sleep...
     
       The screen faded to black for a moment, but then slowly faded back in, the world having a black tint to it, the Mike's sprite laying in the other bed, I assumed this meant it was night.
     
       Steven: I'm going to do it...
     
       Do what? Again, I had no idea, tried inspecting everything in the room, nothing happened. As soon as I left the house, another dialogue.
     
       Steven: IT can bring her back...IT can do anything...
       What in the hell was IT? Something that could do anything, I couldn't for the life of me figure it out. Wandering about, I tried to leave Pallet Town the usual way.
     
       Steven: Not that way.
     
       He wouldn't go any further, I tried the homes.
       
       Steven: Screw them...
     
       I quirked my eyebrow at that, forgetting for a moment this was not a real pokemon game, the vulgarity just took me off guard. I continued to look around, but there was nowhere I could go, until I accidentally stepped on the ocean, and Steven walked right in, only the upper half of his sprite visible, like the swimmers you encounter in the Cerulean gym. I didn't know he could swim...
     
       Steven: The missing one...
     
       Missing one? I paused for a moment, no, he couldn't possibly mean...that, I hadn't tried the MissingNo trick on this hack yet, but it just fit too well, that had to be what he meant. I "surfed" all the way towards Cinnebar. I began to feel something was off, more so than this already was. Silence. The Lavender Town them had stopped, there was no noise at all, nor were there any pokemon. I just kept going, finding Cinnebar and surfing up and down the east coast, lo and behold.
     
       Wild MISSINGNO appeared!
     
       Steven: Mine...
     
       Wild MISSINGNO was caught!
     
       What the hell? Steven didn't do anything, he just commanded that atrocity of broken data to join him, no, become his possession, and it did. I was getting more and more disturbed by this all, checking the start menu, I saw MissingNo was not in my party, but instead an item, making things even stranger. I checked the trainer card as well. Steven has his back to me, his long hair draped behind him, his hands in his pockets, nothing else. Remembering what he said at the start of this night, I realized what I had to do...
       I surfed to land and made my way northeast to, where else, Lavender Town. Along the way, I noticed all the trainers, oddly still out at this hour, wouldn't look at Steven, all of them turning when he passed, even those that were normally static. I tried talking to one of the officers in the guard-house type buildings.
       
       "Just go..."
     
       They all said the same thing, though one sent chills down my spine.
     
       "Sometimes dead is best."
     
       My hands were sweating by this point, Steven was about to try the impossible, something some would see as a crime against nature, which many of these people shared that opinion. I steeled myself, its just a game, and I was going to complete it.
       It took an eternity to reach Pokemon Tower, but I got there eventually, taking a deep breath and heading toward the tombstone, I remembered which one, the image of Steven standing before it was burned into my mind after all. First, I tried inspecting it.
     
       Steven: Miki...
     
       Nothing happened. With a gulp, I opened the menu and selected MissingNo from the bag.
     
       OAK: Steven, don't use it!
     
       I was reminded of when Prof. Oak would magically tell you that you couldn't use a Key Item somewhere, like when using the bicycle in a building, though the message this time was different, even worse, Steven responded to it.
     
       Steven: In a world that cheated me, why should I play fair...
     
       Steven used IT!
     
       .............................
       .............................
       .............................
       .............................
     
       Steven obtained M@#$!
     
       What in God's name did I obtain? I couldn't tell you, because the game took away my control. Without my input, Steven began to leave the tower on his own, walking single step by single step. The Lavender Town theme started again as he left the tower and began his excruciatingly slow journey against my will. Every time he crossed one of the borders where the music would change, it got progressively slower, more and more disturbing, by the time he reached Cerulean City, it was a demonic rumbling. I just stared, watching him, trying to guess where he was going, but it was getting more and more obvious. He was heading to Pallet Town.
       The music had all but stopped when he got there, playing single note by single note. He went exactly where I had guessed, right to his own house, inside, and up the stairs. At this point, there was no music, Steven moved step by step, stopping at his brother's bed, turning to face him. At first, I though the game froze, he didn't do anything, simply stood there, and I couldn't move him. I did however, find out I could open the pause menu. I was terrified to look, but I couldn't stop myself. I selected his trainer card.
       There was a low growl noise, like a distorted pokemon cry. Steven was looking at me again, directly at the screen. He was hunched over, his bangs obscuring his face, his hair was wild and feathered out. Between his bangs, there wasn't even a face at all, just black, two red eyes looking straight forward, a white grin contrasting with the darkness. That wasn't all.
       His name was now S!3v3n.
       I couldn't look away, my eyes glued to his, not breaking contact for some time. My vision was getting blurry until I couldn't see very well, my face grew wet. I was crying, like a baby. There was nothing I could do to hold back the tears. I was with this boy from the start, I built him up to greatness, and was then forced to watch his decline after a tragic accident, and now...he was this. This thing, this abomination.
       I watched him go insane.
       Halting my tears, wiping my eyes, I closed out of the trainer card and tried to save the game, wanting to just quit. The game informed me this was impossible.
     
       "Nothing can be saved now."
     
       The pause menu wouldn't close no matter what I did, so with no other option, I checked the bag, nothing happened. I checked pokemon, and there was one. A single sprite met me, it had zero HP, it's status: DED, it's name M@#$. I selected it, and I was greeted with four options.
       
       ->STATUS
       "Its her..."
     
       ->SWITCH
       "Never"
     
       ->CLOSE
       "...No..."
     
       ->STRANGLE
       
       My fingers shaking, I selected STRANGLE, and the menu closed, showing Steven in the room again.
     
       S!3v3n: Goodbye...
     
       SNAP!
     
       The game shut itself off. I was more dumbfounded than frightened. In a bit of shock, I turned it back on, the title screen showing the manic S!3v3n and a horribly glitched Charizard. I pressed start, then Continue.
       All I saw was a zoomed out view of Pallet Town, showing Steven's home to the west, tall grass surrounding it, those unmovable stones blocking it from the rest of the town. The image was completely static, no music, no movement, before fading to white, going back to the title screen.
       It was as it had been when I first popped it in. A trainer and a Charizard. I attempted to hit continue.
     
       "...No..."

Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 26, 2012, 11:13:54 PM
Quote from: spitllama on December 26, 2012, 09:21:40 PMCan someone please explain how to successfully complete "brycen man strikes back 2" with rental Pokemon? I'm losing every time.
I'm not on that one yet. :P The filming sequences feel weird... :S
Also, I feel bad for Brycen: once a Gym leader, forced to become an actor... :P

Quote from: K-NiGhT on December 26, 2012, 10:18:53 PMRead this through to the end for a good idea. Apologies in advance for grammar/spelling errors, didn't proofread this (or write it)
...But then there would be SOMEONE who would take the title, wouldn't there be?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on December 26, 2012, 11:48:35 PM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on December 26, 2012, 11:13:54 PMAlso, I feel bad for Brycen: once a Gym leader, forced to become an actor... :P
Except he wasn't forced to become an actor, he was a former actor who became a gym leader. It was revealed in the memory links.
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Brycen
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 27, 2012, 11:51:14 AM
Quote from: Shadoninja on December 26, 2012, 11:48:35 PMExcept he wasn't forced to become an actor, he was a former actor who became a gym leader. It was revealed in the memory links.
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Brycen
Hmmmm, interesting to know; I haven't gotten that far yet.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on December 27, 2012, 01:51:10 PM
In BW1, someone in Icirrus City mentioned that he used to be an actor.
When I battled him, all of my Pokemon were level 50 and he had two 37's and one level 39. He didn't stand a chance. XD

(I haven't actually played BW2 yet.)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on December 27, 2012, 02:23:48 PM
PWT is crazy amounts of fun. But the Sinnoh leaders tournament is very hard.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on December 27, 2012, 02:43:32 PM
I started a new save file.
I found out that I can't get a Landorus-T again. D:

Anyways, this time I'm not playing ruzlockes or some shiz like dat. I'm making a badass competitive OU battle team without legendaries, because they're lame to battle with unless you.

So far I got a Regenerator Slowbro(from Dream Radar), Shed Skin Scrafty and Rotom(gonna be Wash) from Dream Radar. I'm going to get a Poison Heal Gliscor(Hidden Grotto), a Technician Breloom(Hidden Grotto) and a Skill Link Cloyster. I will replace Slowbro and Scrafty with a Wobbuffet and a Garchomp.

Guys, can you please help me get a Rough Skin Gible from Dream World when I'm gone! That would mean the world to me.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 27, 2012, 02:47:34 PM
If I get 10,000+ points in the Dream World, I'll try and help, FSM!!


Also, do you need to go to Driftveil first in BW2 (after memory link) to obtain N's Pokemon, or can you catch them before that?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on December 27, 2012, 02:54:00 PM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on December 27, 2012, 02:47:34 PMIf I get 10,000+ points in the Dream World, I'll try and help, FSM!!
BDS, if you do that, I promise I'll breed you a Jolly Gible and level it up to a lv. 100 Garchomp with max EVs on Attack and Speed and as much IVs as possible! Also I would love you forever.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 28, 2012, 12:56:33 PM
Aah; I caught N's Boldore and Joltik LITERALLY one right after another (consecutive battles), and then, shortly after, I caught his Ferroseed, and finally, Klink.
Are his Pokemon really THAT easy to get?? o_O
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on December 28, 2012, 01:32:49 PM
Just a question: Are anybody here paying attention to the Animé?

I don't, but as far as I know, Ash and co. have come to the Unova League as of the most recent episodes in Japan. After that, (spoiler alert) N and Ghetsis are set to appear. But... for how long?

Depending on the writers, they could stuff in between 5-20 episodes in an "N arc". And after that, what happens? The Animé has shown every aspect of Unova as shown in Black&White AND Black2/White2. As far as I know (and heard from a friend I questioned), they've been everywhere, done everything. Now they want a plot containing the main villains of the games, but I can't see that dragging on for more than a few months. After this arc, they'll run out of game content to base Animé episodes on.

This begs the question: What will follow? Keep in mind that there is no Battle Frontier in Unova, so they can't create a mini-saga based on that. The Orange Saga was made as a "filler" while they waited for Gold&Silver to be released. Since then, all they've done has been based on main series game content.

An obvious conclusion would be "More games". Another movie, starring Genesect, is to be released in 2013. There is a slight possibility that we'll catch the first glimpse of sixth generation Pokémon there. However, if GameFreak were to follow the current pattern of time intervals between generations, annoncements regarding Gen. VI would still be a year (and one movie, counting the Reshiram/Zekrom movies as one) away.

Perhaps we'll see the fabled RSE remakes soon? Or perhaps something entirely different? The rumours are circulating on the web, some speak of new Form(e)s, or even new Pokémon, but there are aqfully few Gen. V Legendaries with only one Forme still around, and GF have never introduced new Pokémon mid-Generation.

I think we're in for a new major announcement, but only time will tell what it will be...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 28, 2012, 01:40:34 PM
Quote from: Cobraroll on December 28, 2012, 01:32:49 PMThis begs the question: What will follow? Keep in mind that there is no Battle Frontier in Unova, so they can't create a mini-saga based on that. The Orange Saga was made as a "filler" while they waited for Gold&Silver to be released. Since then, all they've done has been based on main series game content.

An obvious conclusion would be "More games". Another movie, starring Genesect, is to be released in 2013. There is a slight possibility that we'll catch the first glimpse of sixth generation Pokémon there. However, if GameFreak were to follow the current pattern of time intervals between generations, annoncements regarding Gen. VI would still be a year (and one movie, counting the Reshiram/Zekrom movies as one) away.

Perhaps we'll see the fabled RSE remakes soon? Or perhaps something entirely different? The rumours are circulating on the web, some speak of new Form(e)s, or even new Pokémon, but there are aqfully few Gen. V Legendaries with only one Forme still around, and GF have never introduced new Pokémon mid-Generation.

I think we're in for a new major announcement, but only time will tell what it will be...
1: There's no Battle Frontier in Kanto either, yet...

2: More "filler"?

3: Finally an Orange Island-based game? :P

4: Back to the Hoenn region?
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on December 28, 2012, 02:43:20 PM
Is there anyway to get Therian form without Dream Radar?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on December 28, 2012, 02:44:33 PM
Quote from: Cobraroll on December 28, 2012, 01:32:49 PMJust a question: Are anybody here paying attention to the Animé?

I don't, but as far as I know, Ash and co. have come to the Unova League as of the most recent episodes in Japan. After that, (spoiler alert) N and Ghetsis are set to appear. But... for how long?

Depending on the writers, they could stuff in between 5-20 episodes in an "N arc". And after that, what happens? The Animé has shown every aspect of Unova as shown in Black&White AND Black2/White2. As far as I know (and heard from a friend I questioned), they've been everywhere, done everything. Now they want a plot containing the main villains of the games, but I can't see that dragging on for more than a few months. After this arc, they'll run out of game content to base Animé episodes on.

This begs the question: What will follow? Keep in mind that there is no Battle Frontier in Unova, so they can't create a mini-saga based on that. The Orange Saga was made as a "filler" while they waited for Gold&Silver to be released. Since then, all they've done has been based on main series game content.

An obvious conclusion would be "More games". Another movie, starring Genesect, is to be released in 2013. There is a slight possibility that we'll catch the first glimpse of sixth generation Pokémon there. However, if GameFreak were to follow the current pattern of time intervals between generations, annoncements regarding Gen. VI would still be a year (and one movie, counting the Reshiram/Zekrom movies as one) away.

Perhaps we'll see the fabled RSE remakes soon? Or perhaps something entirely different? The rumours are circulating on the web, some speak of new Form(e)s, or even new Pokémon, but there are aqfully few Gen. V Legendaries with only one Forme still around, and GF have never introduced new Pokémon mid-Generation.

I think we're in for a new major announcement, but only time will tell what it will be...
Maybe Ash will finally turn 11 and redo Kanto?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on December 28, 2012, 02:44:48 PM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on December 28, 2012, 01:40:34 PM1: There's no Battle Frontier in Kanto either, yet...
Actually --> the generation 3 Battle Frontier was located in Kanto :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on December 28, 2012, 02:53:04 PM
Quote from: Jompa on December 28, 2012, 02:44:48 PMActually --> the generation 3 Battle Frontier was located in Kanto :P

Really? Where's your proof?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 28, 2012, 02:53:42 PM
Quote from: Jompa on December 28, 2012, 02:44:48 PMActually --> the generation 3 Battle Frontier was located in Kanto :P
From Bulbapedia:
"Hoenn's Battle Frontier, which was introduced in Pokémon Emerald, and was the first Battle Frontier, located on an island in the southeast of the Hoenn region replacing the Battle Tower from Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire."

Unless Hoenn is north of Kanto, then the Battle Frontier was clearly in Hoenn. Look at the map, with the area in dark red. (http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/c/ca/Hoenn_Battle_Frontier_Map.png)

Ahh, ninja'd...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on December 28, 2012, 03:04:50 PM
Yeah, I was about to say it clearly labeled the battle frontier on the Hoenn map. Kanto doesn't have one. It has the sevii islands.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on December 28, 2012, 03:08:36 PM
For the Animé, they relocated the Battle Frontier to facilities all around Kanto. That way, they could excuse stretching it out to an entire story arc.
Still, they changed relatively little else. The facilities were cutpasted straight from the games, if only put in different places. However, there are no such things in the recent games, at least from the latest generation (which, it should be pretty clear to everybody, is the one they always will be focusing on. Previous generations will be regarded as "History", and they won't borrow content from them unless it's retained in the current generation).

So, repeating myself, with the inclusion of N there is nothing from the games they haven't touched upon in the Animé. Or, I guess there is White Forest and Black City. Wonder if that will go in the N arc, be completely unrelated, or be ignored. Still, I really doubt they have material for as much as a year without making some new game or animé-exclusive content.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on December 28, 2012, 03:11:57 PM
I think the word "anime" is spelled with a normal "e".
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on December 28, 2012, 03:52:44 PM
Serebii spells it with an é, but Wikipedia does without (though mentions the alternate spelling). Do somebody have any decent sources on this, so I can know what's correct?

EDIT: Upon reading the Wikipedia article further, I see that it's pronounced Animé, with stress on the E, but it's not required to spell it that way. Some cite the French term Dessin Animé as an origin for the word, though this is debated.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on December 28, 2012, 04:00:20 PM
the anime screws up game canon all the time, anyway. I mean, it's SUPPOSED to be in Hoenn. I refuse to believe it's in Kanto. What bull.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on December 28, 2012, 04:00:37 PM
I was just wondering, since I've never seen the word "anime" spelled with a é.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on December 28, 2012, 04:19:41 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on December 28, 2012, 04:00:20 PMthe anime screws up game canon all the time, anyway. I mean, it's SUPPOSED to be in Hoenn. I refuse to believe it's in Kanto. What bull.
But Nebbles, don't forget that this whole discussion is about the anime, not the canon games. :)
The proof you asked for is that I remember it from an episode; That guy in the blue shirt, Scott, introduced Ash to the Battle Frontier, and told him that it had recently opened up in Kanto, since Ash was heading home anyway. This was at the end of the 3. gen arc.

Anime isn't spelled with é.. Though I see where Cobra is coming from -->  Norwegian is a bit awkward. I can actually remember that I used to call it "aníme", because that is the logical way to pronounce it in Norwegian :3
So if a norwegian only would've heard the word, without ever reading it, he'd write "animé" :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on December 28, 2012, 04:31:50 PM
but the anime canon is so stupid sometimes D: Hoenn is also my favorite region, and I love the battle frontier (hence my blog named after it) and why I refuse to believe what the anime says.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 28, 2012, 04:32:33 PM
Quote from: Jompa on December 28, 2012, 04:19:41 PMBut Nebbles, don't forget that this whole discussion is about the anime, not the canon games. :)
The proof you asked for is that I remember it from an episode; That guy in the blue shirt, Scott, introduced Ash to the Battle Frontier, and told him that it had recently opened up in Kanto, since Ash was heading home anyway. This was at the end of the 3. gen arc.
No; I was talking about the games.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on December 28, 2012, 04:41:32 PM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on December 28, 2012, 04:32:33 PMNo; I was talking about the games.
Yeah yeah, but the whole discussion started when Cobra talked about the anime, so yeah...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on December 28, 2012, 05:09:31 PM
I don't think N is a villain. I'd be interested in a lot more N, he's the series's best character in my opinion.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 28, 2012, 05:22:54 PM
On a different note:
Team currently:
Wave (Female Samurott), level 44
Roy (Male Lucario), level 39
Marat (Male Watchog), level 36
Reill (Mall Azumarill), level 23
Totesabird (Male Sigilyph), level 19
Lilly (Female Lillipup), level 13

Ready to... uh... fight Skyla (I hope).
I really need to train Reill and the below party members... however, I'm doing much better than in my previous games, where I'd just train one Pokemon (until I got an experience share/all).

EDIT: Battle summary!
Wave owned Swoobat, but had trouble with Swanna, switching out with 22/152 HP left. Roy had a close encounter of the Skarmory-kind, defeating the opponent with 3/114 health left (Force Palm + Quick Attack combo).
Wave, Roy, and Marat came out one level higher, and now we know not to try and use Counter on Skarmory! :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on December 29, 2012, 05:25:19 AM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on December 28, 2012, 05:22:54 PMOn a different note:
Team currently:
Wave (Female Samurott), level 44
Roy (Male Lucario), level 39
Marat (Male Watchog), level 36
Reill (Mall Azumarill), level 23
Totesabird (Male Sigilyph), level 19
Lilly (Female Lillipup), level 13

Ready to... uh... fight Skyla (I hope).
I really need to train Reill and the below party members... however, I'm doing much better than in my previous games, where I'd just train one Pokemon (until I got an experience share/all).

EDIT: Battle summary!
Wave owned Swoobat, but had trouble with Swanna, switching out with 22/152 HP left. Roy had a close encounter of the Skarmory-kind, defeating the opponent with 3/114 health left (Force Palm + Quick Attack combo).
Wave, Roy, and Marat came out one level higher, and now we know not to try and use Counter on Skarmory! :P
Did you get the Sap Sipper Azumarill from the hidden grotto, or just a normal one? Cause Azumarill is pretty useless, unless it has Sap Sipper.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on December 29, 2012, 05:30:31 AM
Quote from: Jompa on December 29, 2012, 05:25:19 AMCause Azumarill is pretty useless, unless it has Sap Sipper.
You couldn't be more wrong. HUGE POWER (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Huge_Power_%28Ability%29) is the only effect it should ever have! Seriously, that is the only ability Azumarill should EVER have!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on December 29, 2012, 05:45:39 AM
Not worth it at all - it still has crappy stats
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on December 29, 2012, 05:57:48 AM
-.- Huge Power makes it's Attack from 50 base to 100 WHICH IS HUMONGOUS, it has 80 Defense and Special Defense which is good considering it has base 100 HP, 50 Special Attack but nobody uses Azumarill as a special attacker and it's low speed is fixed with a move like STAB Aqua Jet and its humongous Attack. I recommend moves like Waterfall, Superpower, Aqua Jet and Ice Punch.

Azumarill has proven that it deserves a spot in the UU tier.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on December 29, 2012, 08:13:29 AM
Ok FSM. I give up
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on December 29, 2012, 08:34:15 AM
aww yeah
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 29, 2012, 12:17:40 PM
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on December 29, 2012, 05:57:48 AM-.- Huge Power makes it's Attack from 50 base to 100 WHICH IS HUMONGOUS, it has 80 Defense and Special Defense which is good considering it has base 100 HP, 50 Special Attack but nobody uses Azumarill as a special attacker and it's low speed is fixed with a move like STAB Aqua Jet and its humongous Attack. I recommend moves like Waterfall, Superpower, Aqua Jet and Ice Punch.

Azumarill has proven that it deserves a spot in the UU tier.
Yep; I was lucky enough to catch one with Huge Power on my first try.

EDIT: Travels in Unova with Otis S. Star (completely fictional character; my player character, since I don't like to call all my characters "Mike"):
Riding on Route 13, and I ride past Cobalion...
"Hello Cobalion," and I keep going.
Wait... Cobalion!?!? :P

EDIT: I went back and, two Revenges and a few Pokeballs later, caught it.  8) Welcome Athos.

EDIT: Welcome Aramis.
I like how characters reference your previous character through Memory Link:
"Perhaps you can show me that future, the way Vincent and Iris have?"
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on December 30, 2012, 02:57:19 AM
After I've finished some FFVI arrangments and requests I might make a pokemon great battle medley, contaning snippets from all the great (read: overrated) battle songs in the series.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 30, 2012, 12:44:32 PM
Welcome Porthos.

Also, the cutscene before the battle with White Kyurem was epic; the battle was utterly anti-climactic. It went something like this:
Kyurem used Fusion Flare! It's not very effective...
Wave used Revenge! It's super effective! It's a critical hit! Kyurem fainted.

Too bad you can't capture it during that battle... I was expecting Wave and White Kyurem to duke it out. :P The battle with Ghetsis was mighty fine, but a majority of his Pokemon had a weakness to Fighting-type...

In other things, it seems as if Bulbapedia has gone berserk, because, now, Google warns me about it, and Norton blocks several attacks. :(
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on December 30, 2012, 12:46:40 PM
lolol Ghetsis Battle:

Zangroose(yes) uses Swords Dance two times = destruction begins
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 30, 2012, 01:05:05 PM
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on December 30, 2012, 12:46:40 PMlolol Ghetsis Battle:

Zangroose(yes) uses Swords Dance two times = destruction begins
After Cofagrigus was down, Roy could handle it.
But that Kyurem battle... I was expecting a bit more...  :-\ I guess I forgot that it was still Ice/Dragon.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on December 30, 2012, 02:55:59 PM
Yeah, Bulbapedia is "down". My money's on some dubious code in the advertising scripts (which are provided externally and have nothing to do with Bulbapedia. Use AdBlock and you'll probably be fine).

Also, Serebii is reporting news of some announcement to be made on January 8. This can be anything from announcement of a new game, to an event containing Volt Tacke Emolga or something equally silly. Considering the progression of the Anime, my bet is that it's game-related (see my post two pages back).
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 30, 2012, 06:24:51 PM
Team:
Wave, level 64.
Roy, level 61.
Marat, level 58.
Reill, level 55.
Lilly, level 21.
Totesabird, level 19.

I plan to train Reill to level 58, Lilly to about level 40, and Totesabird to about level 30-35. Otherwise, am I ready for the Elite Four yet??
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on December 30, 2012, 06:33:26 PM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on December 30, 2012, 06:24:51 PMTeam:
Wave, level 64.
Roy, level 61.
Marat, level 58.
Reill, level 55.
Lilly, level 21.
Totesabird, level 19.

I plan to train Reill to level 58, Lilly to about level 40, and Totesabird to about level 30-35. Otherwise, am I ready for the Elite Four yet??
What pokemons are these?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on December 30, 2012, 06:41:42 PM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on December 28, 2012, 05:22:54 PMWave (Female Samurott), level 44
Roy (Male Lucario), level 39
Marat (Male Watchog), level 36
Reill (Mall Azumarill), level 23
Totesabird (Male Sigilyph), level 19
Lilly (Female Lillipup), level 13
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Clanker37 on December 30, 2012, 11:17:26 PM
Quote from: Cobraroll on December 30, 2012, 02:55:59 PMYeah, Bulbapedia is "down". My money's on some dubious code in the advertising scripts (which are provided externally and have nothing to do with Bulbapedia. Use AdBlock and you'll probably be fine).

Also, Serebii is reporting news of some announcement to be made on January 8. This can be anything from announcement of a new game, to an event containing Volt Tacke Emolga or something equally silly. Considering the progression of the Anime, my bet is that it's game-related (see my post two pages back).
If it's a Volt Tackle Emolga, I will scream. But I'm sure Game Freak are going to announce something amazing. Maybe RSE remakes? Or perhaps another sequel to BW, BW3? They've been talking about how it's going to change the Pokemon Universe, so it maybe something completely groundbreaking. Maybe a Stadium or XD remake or sequel all baked in HD on the Wii U?

Also, I'm doing well with my aim to complete to National Dex! Here (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/57307902/Pokedex%20List.xlsx) is the list so far. Going to be playing through LeafGreen, SoulSilver, Ruby and Platinum to get the rest. Already over half way! :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on December 30, 2012, 11:22:35 PM
Ooh man, that Stadium remake sounds nifty...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on December 30, 2012, 11:59:57 PM
I'd love to see a Pokemon game on the Wii U styled similarly to the anime. You could have multiple trainers on your adventure which could either be AI or other players. Just imagine dungeon crawling with your friends. The only problem is 3+ local gamepad players, though a controller mechanic is possible too.

I'm imagining a battle system similar to Final Fantasy XII. You'll control the trainer and the Pokemon will move on its own. AI Trainers following the player will move on their own possibly with a gambit-like system or you can give them orders or take control of them directly. The gamepad has a built-in microphone right? imagine having an extra feature where you can use voice commands. "Stunfisk! Dodge!"

The gamepad would make an excellent in-game Pokedex.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on December 31, 2012, 01:32:38 AM
Quote from: Shadoninja on December 30, 2012, 11:59:57 PMI'm imagining a battle system similar to Final Fantasy XII. You'll control the trainer and the Pokemon will move on its own. AI Trainers following the player will move on their own possibly with a gambit-like system or you can give them orders or take control of them directly. The gamepad has a built-in microphone right? imagine having an extra feature where you can use voice commands. "Stunfisk! Dodge!"
So (for the people who haven't played FFXII) the battle system will be like this.

Next to a trainer/pokemon there will be a bar filling up, when it is full, the trainer/pokemon will do something depending on if you told it to do something or weather it will do something by default because of a gambit. 

Gambits are slots in the menu making a character do an attack if in a certain scenario. For example.

Enemy: Weak to fire: Fire Blast

Meaning, if there is an Enemy Poke that is weak to fire on the battlefield, Your player/pokemon will use Fire blast on it.

Questions?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 31, 2012, 08:57:43 PM
Team, According to the Hall of Fame (in order of "who's first"):
Lucario ♂ Lv. 63; Name: Roy
Samurott ♀ Lv. 69; Name: Wave
Watchog ♂ Lv. 61; Name: Marat
Azumarill ♂ Lv. 58; Name: Reill
Stoutland ♀ Lv. 40; Name: Lilly
Sigilyph ♂ Lv. 30; Name: Totesabird

Marshal was the hardest Elite Four member, for the sole fact that I did not have any moves super-effective against his Pokemon (Marat and Lilly have Crunch).
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on January 01, 2013, 08:07:51 PM
To keep or not to keep!?

Reshiram-- Timid
HP: 13
Def: 20
Spatk: 12
Spdef: 15
Spd: 31

I can't decide :( The Sp. Atk. really could be better.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on January 01, 2013, 08:08:34 PM
It sucks. You can get something better.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on January 01, 2013, 08:10:48 PM
K thx.

Wait why am I even investing time into the speed of this poke? -.- It's base is 90.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on January 03, 2013, 02:02:05 PM
I am most disturbed by the lack of Moose Pokémon. Borderline insulted, even.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on January 03, 2013, 02:11:07 PM
But there's already Stantler and Sawsbuck!

I say we need more horses!!!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on January 03, 2013, 02:15:23 PM
Ponyta, Rapidash, Blitzle, Zebstrika, and Girafarig


I dont think theres an actual lion Pokemon, unless you count Entei
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on January 03, 2013, 02:17:40 PM
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on January 03, 2013, 02:15:23 PMPonyta(pony, duh), Rapidash(unicorn), Blitzle(zebra), Zebstrika(fatter zebra), and Girafarig(giraffe)
Conclusion: no horses :(
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on January 03, 2013, 02:22:14 PM
Ponyta, the Fire Horse Pokemon (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Ponyta)
Rapidash, the Fire Horse Pokemon (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Ponyta)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on January 03, 2013, 02:33:47 PM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on January 03, 2013, 02:11:07 PMBut there's already Stantler and Sawsbuck!

I say we need more horses!!!
Those are deer/reindeer. You should know a moose when you see one.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on January 03, 2013, 02:39:05 PM
Wouldn't be norwegian of me to deny that we need a moose pokémon
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on January 03, 2013, 02:39:37 PM
A moose Pokemon would actually be really cool, especially if it was a fire or ghost type.

Or a Fire/Ghost? Could you imagine that XD

brb im drawing it
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on January 03, 2013, 02:47:08 PM
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on January 03, 2013, 02:22:14 PMPonyta, the Fire Horse Pokemon (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Ponyta)
Rapidash, the Fire Horse Pokemon (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Ponyta)
those japanese don't know a horse when they see make one
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on January 03, 2013, 03:05:27 PM
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fr9ONA.jpg&hash=0f0a421ea4338ea4292fa9eb859097c5b5fcce63)

I messed up its anatomy so bad XD And its antlers are fire if you cant tell

I cant think of a name for it...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on January 03, 2013, 03:11:34 PM
Sunsbuck
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on January 03, 2013, 04:01:03 PM
Moosinerator
Moosun
Arsonelk
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on January 03, 2013, 04:03:08 PM
Mooseinerator omg
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on January 03, 2013, 04:18:05 PM
Quote from: Jompa on January 03, 2013, 02:39:05 PMWouldn't be norwegian of me to deny that we need a moose pokémon
This is my point :)

Quote from: Bubbles7689 on January 03, 2013, 03:05:27 PM(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fr9ONA.jpg&hash=0f0a421ea4338ea4292fa9eb859097c5b5fcce63)

I messed up its anatomy so bad XD And its antlers are fire if you cant tell
Omg, Bubbles you made my day ;D this looks beautiful.

Quote from: Shadoninja on January 03, 2013, 04:01:03 PMArsonelk
I like this one. Granted, it's not an Elk, an an elk is more like a deer than a moose, I just like the name.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Zunawe on January 03, 2013, 05:11:27 PM
Quote from: Kman96 on January 03, 2013, 04:18:05 PMI like this one. Granted, it's not an Elk, an an elk is more like a deer than a moose, I just like the name.
It's already been established that Ponyta is a horse pokemon, so I don't think it's a big deal.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 03, 2013, 09:17:36 PM
Once more, on a different note, what would you say about a Pokemon with these base stats?
HP: 50
Atk: 80
Def: 90
Sp. Atk: 80
Sp. Def: 90
Speed: 60

Total: 450

While considering its 'ability': "...has a 'shield,' half of its HP, that activates at half health. It must be drained before doing any more damage. The shield cannot regenerate during battle, and cannot be Skill Swapped."
Since joining NSM, I have steadily become more interested in competitive Pokemon battling and 'what ifs...'
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on January 03, 2013, 10:16:25 PM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on January 03, 2013, 09:17:36 PMOnce more, on a different note, what would you say about a Pokemon with these base stats?
HP: 50
Atk: 80
Def: 90
Sp. Atk: 80
Sp. Def: 90
Speed: 60

Total: 450

While considering its 'ability': "...has a 'shield,' half of its HP, that activates at half health. It must be drained before doing any more damage. The shield cannot regenerate during battle, and cannot be Skill Swapped."
Since joining NSM, I have steadily become more interested in competitive Pokemon battling and 'what ifs...'
I'm confused.

An ability that would be cool is one that reverses all stat changes on the field. So a +1 becomes -1 and vice versa.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 03, 2013, 10:58:26 PM
Quote from: Shadoninja on January 03, 2013, 10:16:25 PMI'm confused.

An ability that would be cool is one that reverses all stat changes on the field. So a +1 becomes -1 and vice versa.
Ok, since it has a base stat of 50, let's say it has HP of 304:
When it gets down to 152 HP, a 'shield' activates, that is also 152 HP. Once the shield is "defeated", the remaining HP can be drained. During the time the shield is active, HP cannot be restored. After and during the time the shield is active, the shield cannot be restored.
This would, essentially, give it HP of 456, just a tiny bit above that of Kyurem's max.
I might assume that this ability would be one affected by Mold Breaker, Teravolt, and Turboblaze.

Also, about the ability you mentioned: That would totally mess up some of the opponents' strategies, but would be terrible if somebody used Superpower or Close Combat on you; however, in double battles, you'd greatly benefit from those moves and that ability.
Draco Meteor Reshiram (or Kyurem-W) + Choice Specs would be a force of (even more) destruction.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on January 03, 2013, 11:44:21 PM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on January 03, 2013, 10:58:26 PMAlso, about the ability you mentioned: That would totally mess up some of the opponents' strategies, but would be terrible if somebody used Superpower or Close Combat on you; however, in double battles, you'd greatly benefit from those moves and that ability.
Draco Meteor Reshiram (or Kyurem-W) + Choice Specs would be a force of (even more) destruction.
Exactly it would be force switches against stat boosters. It would be much too overpowered so I think the pokemon would have to have low HP and/or Defenses and/or a weak typing.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: garlicbananas on January 04, 2013, 09:27:20 AM
Contrary is similar to the ability Shadoninja is talking about, but it only applies for the user. It makes Serperior with Leaf Storm one hell of a sweeper.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on January 04, 2013, 09:44:12 AM
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on January 03, 2013, 03:05:27 PM(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fr9ONA.jpg&hash=0f0a421ea4338ea4292fa9eb859097c5b5fcce63)

I messed up its anatomy so bad XD And its antlers are fire if you cant tell

I cant think of a name for it...
Bubbles, that thing is cool!!! :)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on January 04, 2013, 06:20:56 PM
Different topic, relevant here:

Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on January 04, 2013, 05:45:03 PMSometimes, when I was really determined (yes, I've restarted my game in Red/Yellow more times than I can count), I'd just train it like crazy and evolve it before Lt. Surge.

I bet it was a lot of help against the gym leader
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 04, 2013, 06:25:59 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on January 04, 2013, 06:20:56 PMDifferent topic, relevant here:
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on January 04, 2013, 05:45:03 PM
Quote from: K-NiGhT on January 04, 2013, 05:42:30 PMNEBBLES IN THE NEXT EPISODE GO TALK TO THE MAGIKARP GUY IN THAT POKEMON CENTER.

I bet you could maybe get something good!
Sometimes, when I was really determined (yes, I've restarted my game in Red/Yellow more times than I can count), I'd just train it like crazy and evolve it before Lt. Surge.
I bet it was a lot of help against the gym leader
-_-
No, but it is against Erika, Blaine, and Giovanni, as well as Lance later on, especially if Charmander is your starter (not so much when it evolves into Charizard).
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on January 04, 2013, 06:37:11 PM
I was just teasing you haha. I just found it ironic you got Gyarados right before a gym battle where it would be knocked out before it could land a hit
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 04, 2013, 07:04:38 PM
M'kay, so!
I go to the Daycare Center in White 2 to breed the female Ralts I got from Yancy (to get a male in order to evolve into Gallade). I wait a little, and get the egg from the Daycare Man, then go directly inside and deposit it in the PC. I go to pick up Ralts... but the lady says that her husband is looking for me! Another Ralts egg, barely a minute after the first!!...
Twins, I guess...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on January 04, 2013, 07:11:20 PM
So... what do you think the big announcement is on the 8th, hm? :o
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 04, 2013, 07:21:17 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on January 04, 2013, 07:11:20 PMSo... what do you think the big announcement is on the 8th, hm? :o
Could be the R/S Remakes; could be anime-related; could be a spin-off game; a game like XD; a really special event...
That would be awesome if they somehow hid a Pokemon in the coding (like, hid it to where it would be nearly impossible to find unless you knew where and how to find it), and nobody else knew about it... although, I doubt it...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on January 04, 2013, 07:22:09 PM
I'm not getting my hopes up, but I'd love Ruby and Sapphire remakes or sequels.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on January 04, 2013, 07:23:07 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on January 04, 2013, 07:11:20 PMSo... what do you think the big announcement is on the 8th, hm? :o
Surfing Emolga available for download. GET YOURS BEFORE IT ENDS!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on January 04, 2013, 07:24:06 PM
ahahahaha
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 04, 2013, 07:24:21 PM
This is an odd question, but:
If you were a Ralts egg, where would you want to hatch in Unova... someplace that seems natural to a Ralts? :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on January 04, 2013, 07:26:57 PM
Quote from: Shadoninja on January 04, 2013, 07:23:07 PMSurfing Emolga available for download. GET YOURS BEFORE IT ENDS!
Who would want a surfing Emolga?

And I know that's Sarcasm.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on January 04, 2013, 07:27:08 PM
Maybe the Nature Preserve--seems like a nice place.

If not there, what about Nimbasa City or Pokestar Studios? Gardevoir seems like a good dancer in musicals and movies.
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on January 04, 2013, 07:28:10 PM
I actually went onto mystery gift to get the Emolga. Oops.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on January 04, 2013, 07:29:08 PM
XDDDDD
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on January 04, 2013, 07:29:15 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on January 04, 2013, 07:11:20 PMSo... what do you think the big announcement is on the 8th, hm? :o

I honestly dont think its going to be that big. I remember the Pokemon Facebook page made a huuuggeee deal about the Keldeo movie, and we know how that turned out. Im assuming that the twitter and facebook pages post the same things?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 04, 2013, 07:35:19 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on January 04, 2013, 07:27:08 PMMaybe the Nature Preserve--seems like a nice place.

If not there, what about Nimbasa City or Pokestar Studios? Gardevoir seems like a good dancer in musicals and movies.
Nimbasa City seems fitting, I believe.

Quote from: spitllama on January 04, 2013, 07:28:10 PMI actually went onto mystery gift to get the Emolga. Oops.
You seem very eager. :)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on January 04, 2013, 07:39:47 PM
Quote from: SocialFox on January 04, 2013, 07:26:57 PMWho would want a surfing Emolga?

And I know that's Sarcasm.
Surfing Emolga destroys everything.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on January 04, 2013, 07:46:48 PM
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on January 04, 2013, 07:29:15 PMI honestly dont think its going to be that big. I remember the Pokemon Facebook page made a huuuggeee deal about the Keldeo movie, and we know how that turned out. Im assuming that the twitter and facebook pages post the same things?

I think it might be game news, though?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on January 04, 2013, 07:49:34 PM
Wait, is it just for NA and japan or is it Europe too?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on January 04, 2013, 07:55:58 PM
It said it was a worldwide announcement.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on January 04, 2013, 08:26:17 PM
Have they ever done anything like this before?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 04, 2013, 08:35:29 PM
Egg #2 (the second one I got) hatched into a male Ralts, Rollie (not the slang term).
Egg #1 hatched into a female Ralts, Rolina.

Neither of their natures support EV training, but I won't worry about that for now.

EDIT: Now I will get a bunch of Eevee eggs and name them all Lutul. But first, why not Wynaut?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on January 04, 2013, 08:38:57 PM
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on January 04, 2013, 08:26:17 PMHave they ever done anything like this before?

I think so? but I dunno. I can't wait until Tuesday. DX
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Clanker37 on January 04, 2013, 09:03:19 PM
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on January 04, 2013, 08:26:17 PMHave they ever done anything like this before?
I think they do it with every new game announcement, at least. To get us all hyped up. I remember when they did for a nothing-speacial Mewtwo event a while back. So the realistic chances of a surfing Emolga is higher then you think xD
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on January 04, 2013, 09:17:41 PM
Yeah, that's why I'm only tentatively excited. It's probably the Meloetta event or something. It's too soon after B2/W2 and Mystery Dungeon is about to come out.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on January 04, 2013, 09:36:14 PM
oh true it probably is

that's still good though I want my damn Meloetta
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on January 05, 2013, 02:43:33 PM
May I quote a post I made on Smogon on the matter?

Quote from: Cobraroll;4527616...[T]he pattern might have been broken by B2/W2.

Generations 3 and 4 have had three releases of new main series games: Main series pair, main series third game, pair of remakes, adding up to five games in total, with two distinctly different storylines, the story of the fifth game being a slight change from the two first.

Generation five has only had two releases of main series games: Black/White, and Black2/White2. Four games, two different storylines (though not as distinctly as before).

If GameFreak decides not to remake any games for Gen. V, and stick to the two pairs of games, the duration of Gen. V may be cut drastically, whereas the amount of games in the generation only differs by one. The amount of storylines would be the same.

The current release pattern (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Generation) suggests we're in for another game in late 2013 or early 2014. The pattern goes that a game is usually released every other year, but often two games of the same generation are released in consecutive years ("Game" here obviously meaning "pair of games" where applicable). Seeing as B2/W2 were released fairly early in 2012 (In Japan, mind you), late 2013 wouldn't be too shabby of a guess for a new game release, with an international release early in 2014.

Question is: Will that new game belong to the fifth or the sixth generation?
An indication that the fifth generation is coming to an end can be seen in the Anime. Ash&co. are almost finished with Unova. An arc with N and Ghetsis remains, but after that, there isn't a whole lot more they can do there. Unless a pair of remakes feature a decent excuse to do a region over again (A la Battle Frontier), or the Anime breaks away from the games for the first time since the Orange Saga, they will need a new region to go to.

Zoroark was the first indication that a new Generation was in the works. It was announced in February 2010, and the games were released in Japan in mid-September that same year, seven months later (international release March 2011). If a new Pokémon is shown on January 8, the corresponding games would be released in Japan in late summer/early fall 2013, some fifteen months after B2/W2. It would fit into the current pattern, but it would mean a record-high frequency of game releases (Around thirty nanohertz for the past few years).

Conclusion: We're due for a new game release in a few months. There is little evidence to suggest if it is a remake or a new generation, but a game would be coming between now and next Christmas. The news on January 8 could very well be the first hinting towards those new games, it would be a nice fit time-wise.

Or, again, Volt Tackle Emolga. If we keep our expectations down, we won't be let down by anyhting.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on January 05, 2013, 03:10:08 PM
I don't know. I don't think we need gen 6 yet. It feels too early.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on January 05, 2013, 03:13:11 PM
It's the Ruby and Sapphire remakes. It must be. Anyone who disagrees, see that thing up there?

It's called the Logout button.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on January 05, 2013, 03:19:00 PM
It could be remakes or whatever because that does make some sense, giving something else to 5th gen?

In all honesty I don't believe we're getting a generation 6 this time around.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 05, 2013, 03:20:49 PM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on January 05, 2013, 03:13:11 PMIt's the Ruby and Sapphire remakes. It must be. Anyone who disagrees, see that thing up there?

It's called the Logout button.
I'm safe! :P

Quote from: Nebbles on January 05, 2013, 03:19:00 PMIt could be remakes or whatever because that does make some sense, giving something else to 5th gen?

In all honesty I don't believe we're getting a generation 6 this time around.
That would make sense, given that many people feel as if it would be way too early for G6 yet... maybe they should focus more on expanding G5 and the Dream World before they even consider that...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on January 05, 2013, 03:34:23 PM
which is why the RSE option makes sense, we have a 5th gen-esque battle frontier (my wish) and add ons to the Dream World. It's a good idea.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on January 05, 2013, 03:41:27 PM
I think that it will be a Emerald Remake, rather than a Ruby/Sapphire Remake, based on cobraroll's theory that there are 5 games in each Generation.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 05, 2013, 03:42:25 PM
Quote from: SocialFox on January 05, 2013, 03:41:27 PMI think that it will be a Emerald Remake, rather than a Ruby/Sapphire Remake, based on cobraroll's theory that there are 5 games in each Generation.
But Black 2/White 2 broke the normal pattern, so the number of remakes (2) wouldn't matter, would it? Although I'd prefer Emerald, they might just have Ruby/Sapphire with Emerald-like features.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on January 05, 2013, 03:54:14 PM
It'd be better for them to do Emerald anyway, just to get both features and whatnot

and I just want the Hoenn battle frontier back too >_>
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 05, 2013, 04:01:25 PM
Hmmm...
When I entered the Dream World, I had 6,670 points. When I left, I now have 6980, meaning that I gained 310 points. If I get about 300 points every time I enter the Dream World, three-or-so visits per dream (when you when the Pokemon up), then it should take around 10 more days to get to 10,000 points.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on January 05, 2013, 04:05:02 PM
On the other hand, the DS generation is at a close. Any new game will have to be for the 3DS and as such likely Gen. VI
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on January 05, 2013, 04:09:23 PM
Yeah, this is definitely 3DS exclusive, that much is obvious. I'm pretty sure BW2 are the last DS pokemon games, as PMD3 was for the 3DS. Wasn't it that way with the first PMD games (ignoring Dash, because that was awful) to really utilize the DS' features?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 05, 2013, 06:43:48 PM
If I'm going to fight Benga, would it be better to replace Water Pulse with Ice Beam or Blizzard (to take care of his Dragon-types)?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on January 05, 2013, 06:46:24 PM
Ice Beam. Don't risk the accuracy, and you have more PP.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 05, 2013, 06:53:05 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on January 05, 2013, 06:46:24 PMIce Beam. Don't risk the accuracy, and you have more PP.
Thanks! :D (now to find the TM and level up a bit more)

EDIT: Benga Battle!

Super Fang against Latias; not too long after, Marat fainted. Wave finished it up with Ice Beam after being hit by Thunderbolt.
Wave KO'd Dragonite with a single Ice Beam.
Wave used Razor Shell; it would've taken out Volcarona in one hit, but it had a Focus Sash. Wave was fainted by Bug Buzz. Roy (the last member of my "big three") finished the job with ExtremeSpeed; Roy was burned by Flame Body. :P

Time to get Dratini!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on January 05, 2013, 11:23:14 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on December 27, 2012, 02:23:48 PMPWT is crazy amounts of fun. But the Sinnoh leaders tournament is very hard.
Just wait until you get to the World Leaders or Champions tournaments.



Which team will win:

A team filled with Pokemon with double weaknesses Vs. A team filled with Pokemon with double resistances.


Also another scenario:

Team of 2 three-stage evolution (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_evolution_family) Pokemon families (Charmander, Charmeleon, Charizard, Bulbasaur, Ivysaur, Venusaur) leveled accordingly.

Team of 3 two-stage evolution (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_evolution_family) Pokemon families (Ekans, Arbok, Rattata, Raticate, Venonat, Venomoth) leveled accordingly.

Team of 6 no evolution (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_that_are_not_part_of_an_evolutionary_line) Pokemon (Kangaskhan, Miltank, Emolga, Rotom, Carnivine, Relicanth).

Basic = Lv100
Stage 1 = Lv80
Stage 2 = Lv60

Or whatever makes stats even. No evolutioners may need to be bumped down to Lv80.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 06, 2013, 01:11:21 AM
Quote from: Shadoninja on January 05, 2013, 11:23:14 PMJust wait until you get to the World Leaders or Champions tournaments.
I slammed through the Mix (or-whatever-it's-called) tournament... but I must have forgotten to save the game. X_X
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on January 07, 2013, 06:20:10 AM
Quote from: serebii.net/index2.shtmlIn The Games Department

Pokémon Direct

We have received the details of the timeframe for tomorrow's announcement. This announcement is to come via a special Nintendo Direct called "Pokémon Direct" and will be a worldwide viewing at 11am GMT, 8pm in Japan and 6am EST. This Nintendo Direct will be 10 minutes long and simulcast worldwide. We'll provide the news as and when it comes so check the site

It would have to be one heck of an event Pokémon to justify a PR circus like this. They schedule it so that most of the world can follow it. If they announce anything less than a main series game, it would be a PR disaster and damage their reputation badly for a long time to come.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on January 07, 2013, 06:31:01 AM
I'm really excited now. A Nintendo Direct is pretty big, too... what ARE they planning...
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on January 07, 2013, 06:40:37 AM
PokemonXDigimon

Oh no
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on January 07, 2013, 06:50:09 AM
har har. But I'm not sure what to make of this. There's so many possibilities...
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on January 07, 2013, 06:51:17 AM
It's probably a Gen 3 remake. Not sure if anyone already said that.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on January 07, 2013, 06:52:24 AM
People have been, and that's the general consensus. I'm throwing my two cents in that too, because this announcement seems pretty big and a remake of Hoenn seems to fit that...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on January 07, 2013, 06:57:06 AM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on January 05, 2013, 03:13:11 PMIt's the Ruby and Sapphire remakes. It must be. Anyone who disagrees, see that thing up there?

It's called the Logout button.
Also:
Quote from: SocialFox on January 05, 2013, 03:41:27 PMI think that it will be a Emerald Remake, rather than a Ruby/Sapphire Remake, based on cobraroll's theory that there are 5 games in each Generation.
I stand by Ruby and Sapphire remakes. I don't want to judge Nintendo, but two games make more money than one. We shouldn't forget that the remakes always come in pairs(I'm not sure if you can say that Crystal, Emerald and Platinum were remakes...).
also you disagreed with me gtfo
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on January 07, 2013, 07:05:45 AM
True, but Emerald would be nice since it had the battle frontier.

If you haven't guessed, I'd really like a 5th gen battle frontier.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on January 07, 2013, 07:41:42 AM
Quote from: Nebbles on January 07, 2013, 07:05:45 AMTrue, but Emerald would be nice since it had the battle frontier.

If you haven't guessed, I'd really like a 5th gen battle frontier.

It's totally obvious they're going to have the battle frontier web if its ruby and sapphire--HGSS were more like Crystal than anything else
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 07, 2013, 11:45:17 AM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on January 07, 2013, 07:41:42 AMIt's totally obvious they're going to have the battle frontier web if its ruby and sapphire--HGSS were more like Crystal than anything else
Yeah; that's what I said by taking qualities of the "third version."
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Music44 on January 07, 2013, 07:56:26 PM
Sounds awesome,  ;D
the 3rd gen is my second favorite, right next to the 2nd gen. (So it's almost as if it's my favorite. XD)
I also have been waiting for a 3DS pokemon game. (I am pretty sure this is going to be for the 3DS.)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on January 07, 2013, 08:02:23 PM
Guys, I have some speculation (https://twitter.com/Pokemon/status/287940481814523905) as to what may be announced tomorrow....And it's a mighty big one.


I mean, WHAAAAAAAT???
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 07, 2013, 08:05:01 PM
Quote from: Kman96 on January 07, 2013, 08:02:23 PMGuys, I have some speculation (https://twitter.com/Pokemon/status/287940481814523905) as to what may be announced tomorrow....And it's a mighty big one.


I mean, WHAAAAAAAT???
Uhhh... more Eeveelutions...??
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on January 07, 2013, 08:52:39 PM
^^ xD
Title: Re: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on January 07, 2013, 09:19:48 PM
Quote from: Kman96 on January 07, 2013, 08:02:23 PMGuys, I have some speculation (https://twitter.com/Pokemon/status/287940481814523905) as to what may be announced tomorrow....And it's a mighty big one.


I mean, WHAAAAAAAT???
17. 289 if they start playing with dual-type eeveelutions and
assuming my maths is correct.
Title: Re: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 07, 2013, 09:24:03 PM
Quote from: Shadoninja on January 07, 2013, 09:19:48 PM17. 289 if they start playing with dual-type eeveelutions and
assuming my maths is correct.
A whole region devoted to Eeveelutions... your goal: to catch 289 Eevee(s) and evolve them all.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on January 08, 2013, 02:55:38 AM
The Stream starts in five minutes, people! Don't forget to watch!

http://www.nintendo.co.uk/Misc-/Nintendo-Direct/Latest-Nintendo-Direct/Nintendo-Direct-698557.html

Also:
Quote from: NintendoPlease note: this presentation features video footage of software currently in production. As such, certain aspects of the footage shown (e.g. terminology) may differ slightly from the final retail product.

Is this a standard message, or a clear indication that we'll see a new game?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on January 08, 2013, 03:08:24 AM
Pokemon X and Pokemon Y look awesome.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on January 08, 2013, 03:12:55 AM
And so it dawns... the sixth generation.

And, I must say, it looks great!

EDIT: We got our elk!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on January 08, 2013, 03:21:32 AM
The 3D modelling and battles look fantastic. It's nice that this is supposedly getting a worldwide release so we don't have to wait longer than them japanese.

http://youtu.be/VzO6J981nAw
http://youtu.be/4bIrWryFc7A
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Clanker37 on January 08, 2013, 03:45:43 AM
The games look great! But I'm slightly disappointed that Gen 5 only lasted 2 years. It feels like it should have been longer to co-inside with previous gen's length. Black and White 2 are still, well as he says, "Fresh in our minds," so I'm a bit concerned about Game Freak just throwing in a new generation. It's like they've run out of ideas, so the just move on. Also, RSE needs a remake. It's been 10 years since we first played it, and it's high time we got a 3D version.

Actually, imagine Hoenn with 3D game play? AMAZING. Perhaps Game Freak intended for the 3rd gen to be remade in 3D, so as not to give us a stale game. In FRLG and HGSS, there were significant changes to the game play mechanics, even though most if not all (especially in FRLG) were introduced in 3rd gen. The game play just didn't change that much in 4th and hardly at all in 5th, so perhaps they need more new mechanics to make the RSE remakes still the same as the original, but different enough to not be accussed of just being a RSE Game Boy game with a 3DS logo.

Did just argue with myself in one post? I hope I'm not going insane
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on January 08, 2013, 04:16:29 AM
The only starter that looked okay to me was Fennekin. The grass one looked like a direct clone of Oshawott, and the water type just looked kinda funny.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Clanker37 on January 08, 2013, 04:32:00 AM
Quote from: K-NiGhT on January 08, 2013, 04:16:29 AMThe only starter that looked okay to me was Fennekin. The grass one looked like a direct clone of Oshawott, and the water type just looked kinda funny.
I think the water one looks cool. I like frogs and stuff so I'll probably get... Froakie? Like Croaky with an F? GENIUS But I love water-types a lot so, I'll probably get Froakie anyways. And also, I think it's really cute, but I guess I'll wait until evolution lines are shown.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on January 08, 2013, 04:44:07 AM
Well the starters are already looking way cooler than Gen IV or V. I like all three, but I'm not a fan of the water type's name. Lol.

Can't wait till October, I'm happy they're not stretching gen V out like the did the others--the new Pokemon are getting to feel a bit old.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on January 08, 2013, 04:46:13 AM
Quote from: K-NiGhT on January 08, 2013, 04:16:29 AMThe only starter that looked okay to me was Fennekin. The grass one looked like a direct clone of Oshawott, and the water type just looked kinda funny.

Fennekin:
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fserebii.net%2Ffire.png&hash=005c7d3b4fbfdb1283ffbaf835ad226726c6fac0)

Zorua:
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.bulbagarden.net%2Fupload%2Fthumb%2F2%2F2b%2F570Zorua.png%2F180px-570Zorua.png&hash=ca1ee51073474b5c881ad57c26ca55281641d66a)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on January 08, 2013, 04:51:09 AM
^they don't look that similar....
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on January 08, 2013, 05:40:47 AM
HOLY SHITWVFAYFGUAWLYVFALWFBVUFL;KBAWL

ME JELLY

So, anyone noticed that the MPC looks like the most human yet?(referencing the humongous heads)

Anyways

BESTGQWVKQETVFQLWVEFTLQWVF53QLWVFTLL
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on January 08, 2013, 06:08:41 AM
Aww we're already done with Gen 5? Didn't seem to get much time in the spotlight. Was hoping to see more N.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on January 08, 2013, 06:11:48 AM
I should have seen this coming. They only make one remake(two versions) every Gen. D:

But still 6 Gen remake omg
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on January 08, 2013, 06:48:41 AM
HOLY SHIT!!!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 08, 2013, 10:52:24 AM
Ehhhh. The water starter is the only good one. The others look too much like Fakemon that I designed in a hurry. :P
That "Y" legendary looks cool, though. "X" looks too much like Virizion.

EDIT: I would've rathered wait for G6; G5 has barely begun, when you take into account the possible expansion of content that's possible.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on January 08, 2013, 10:56:43 AM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on January 08, 2013, 10:52:24 AMEhhhh. The water starter is the only good one. The others look too much like Fakemon that I designed in a hurry. :P
D:

I DISAGREE
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 08, 2013, 10:59:46 AM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on January 08, 2013, 10:56:43 AMD:

I DISAGREE
Chespin is mediocre at best (comparable to an otter with a crumbling beehive on its head).
Hopefully its evolutions will redeem it.

Fennekin is a rehash of both Vulpix and Zorua.

Thus, Froakie is the best. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on January 08, 2013, 11:01:52 AM
They look nothing like your fakemons!!!
D: They all are awesome!!!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 08, 2013, 11:07:17 AM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on January 08, 2013, 11:01:52 AMThey look nothing like your fakemons!!!
D: They all are awesome!!!
::)
Difference of opinions, I guess... I was essentially trying to draw a comparison, saying that they look cheap, not that they look exactly like hastily-made designs of mine. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on January 08, 2013, 11:33:08 AM
Don't think they look cheap, just very weird.

Also the deer (which I think looks really cool) is the Y, isn't it? Maybe not. Either way I'll get the one with the deer
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 08, 2013, 11:41:26 AM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on January 08, 2013, 11:33:08 AMAlso the deer (which I think looks really cool) is the Y, isn't it? Maybe not. Either way I'll get the one with the deer
The deer (blue Virizion) is supposed to be "Y," as you can see from their colors.

On a different note: My GTS trade (Oshawott for a Snivy) went through; I now have a Japanese Snivy. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on January 08, 2013, 11:50:56 AM
Well early you said "X looks like Virizion" when Y is the deer
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 08, 2013, 12:04:16 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on January 08, 2013, 11:50:56 AMWell early you said "X looks like Virizion" when Y is the deer
Uhhh... ignore my above post; I was confused...

X is the blue one, and Y is the red one. :S
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on January 08, 2013, 12:26:19 PM
The grass one looks amazingly cute!! Can't wait to see it's evolved forms :D :D :D

And my reaction: HOLY FUCK SO AWESOME!!!i!!i!!!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on January 08, 2013, 12:32:54 PM
Just to make this clear:

Deer is the X(I'll bet you 10 bucks that it won't learn X-Scissor) and the epic dragon is the Y.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on January 08, 2013, 01:03:13 PM
Wow... Gen 6? Already? Dang, time sure flies.  :P

I do feel like Gen 5 was too short though.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 08, 2013, 01:06:52 PM
Quote from: Jompa on January 08, 2013, 12:26:19 PMThe grass one looks amazingly cute!! Can't wait to see it's evolved forms :D :D :D
To quote my older brother:
"It looks like... what's that water starter?... Oshawott... plus Slowking."

About Froakie:
"It's like Poliwhirl, or that green one... Politoed."

Quote from: blueflower999 on January 08, 2013, 01:03:13 PMWow... Gen 6? Already? Dang, time sure flies.  :P

I do feel like Gen 5 was too short though.
Yeah...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on January 08, 2013, 01:28:38 PM
wow, well... color me surprised! I'm very happy with all of this!

The graphics look great, I love the legendaries, and... FENNEC FOX STARTER!!!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on January 08, 2013, 01:38:19 PM
The most mysterious and notable power of the X Legendary is its ability to stand upright. I mean, Pokémon designs have been biologically bad before (Tyranitar logically shouldn't be able to walk, for instance), but never as off-balanced as this. It looks like a good fifty percent of the creature's mass is located in its antlers, which would make it topple over comically every time it turned its head.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on January 08, 2013, 01:39:24 PM
It's a legendary, let it slide. XD
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on January 08, 2013, 01:42:02 PM
Quote from: Cobraroll on January 08, 2013, 01:38:19 PMThe most mysterious and notable power of the X Legendary is its ability to stand upright. I mean, Pokémon designs have been biologically bad before (Tyranitar logically shouldn't be able to walk, for instance), but never as off-balanced as this. It looks like a good fifty percent of the creature's mass is located in its antlers, which would make it topple over comically every time it turned its head.
omg it must have some sort of mystical powers
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on January 08, 2013, 01:49:21 PM
http://serebii.net/index2.shtml (Click the image, as the large version isn't directly linkable)

Oh, I see it now. The power to generate invisible objects for it to lean against. Look at the position of its legs. There is nothing to suggest there is any form of support for it on our left side, yet that is also where most of its mass is located. Its centre of gravity (located somewhere in its head, by the look of things) does not project vertically onto the plane spanned by its points of support (feet). It should topple over, yet it doesn't...

...I've been to engineering school too long already, haven't I?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on January 08, 2013, 01:52:36 PM
No, you're just taking a fictional animal way too seriously
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on January 08, 2013, 01:53:05 PM
I'm in love with the other bird legendary thing though. God, it looks so cool.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 08, 2013, 01:54:50 PM
Quote from: Cobraroll on January 08, 2013, 01:38:19 PMThe most mysterious and notable power of the X Legendary is its ability to stand upright. I mean, Pokémon designs have been biologically bad before (Tyranitar logically shouldn't be able to walk, for instance), but never as off-balanced as this. It looks like a good fifty percent of the creature's mass is located in its antlers, which would make it topple over comically every time it turned its head.
Maybe its legs are designed with an internal structure unknown to humans, that allows it to hold up more weight. And its neck as well. :P

Quote from: Nebbles on January 08, 2013, 01:53:05 PMI'm in love with the other bird legendary thing though. God, it looks so cool.
Yep; I'd like to see sprites as well, even if they're not featured in the game.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on January 08, 2013, 02:09:28 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on January 08, 2013, 01:52:36 PMNo, you're just taking a fictional animal way too seriously

The simple concept of balance will come back to haunt GameFreak the day this guy features in merchandise. Mark. My. Words. ( OverlyObsessedEngineer.jpg )

Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on January 08, 2013, 01:54:50 PMMaybe its legs are designed with an internal structure unknown to humans, that allows it to hold up more weight. And its neck as well. :P

Its legs would have to be extremely heavy, then. Or rather, the bottom half of each leg save for its right foreleg. That would give it a chance of staying upright in that pose.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on January 08, 2013, 02:13:17 PM
What if the antlers are super-light like a feather that are made of unown material :O

problem solved
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on January 08, 2013, 02:18:44 PM
No, you would still have to account for the mass of the rest of the creature (in the stance on the picture, of course. In any other pose, it would be less of a problem). To prevent the damn thing from toppling over at sudden changes in velocity (like a short stop, a sharp turn or hitting anything while running), it would need to have the center of gravity located as close to the ground as possible, and within the trapezoid spanned out between its legs when looked at from above. Most animals (and to date, Pokémon) have their centre of gravity in the stomach region somewhere.

This same thing, inertia, also appears to apply to Fennekin. Notice how most of its mass is located in its head. If it manages to get up to running speed, how could it stop? It would be like a cycling man standing on his bike pedals, leaning forwards, and squeezing the front wheel brake. Bound to end with a noseplant.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 08, 2013, 02:20:56 PM
Quote from: Cobraroll on January 08, 2013, 02:09:28 PMIts legs would have to be extremely heavy, then. Or rather, the bottom half of each leg save for its right foreleg. That would give it a chance of staying upright in that pose.
Or the material the leg is made of (whether bone or not, which is stretching into extreme-fiction) allows for different distribution of weight (instead of the legs weighing about as much as the antlers).

If they have merchandise, they may have the legs at a diagonal angle, spread out a little more (for figurines).
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on January 08, 2013, 02:21:30 PM
Holy crap, Cobraroll. You're digging waaaaay too deep into it.  :P

I mean, since when do video game characters follow these guidelines? Look at a Bulborb from Pikmin. That thing could never stand up if it were real.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on January 08, 2013, 02:22:13 PM
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on January 08, 2013, 02:17:58 PMI thought it was a trading card announcement


I was horribly wrong


But I dont think theyre quite done with gen 5. From the trailer, it loooks like the new games are going to be a mix of the traditional games with something like Colosseum. I dont think this game is gen 6, but just another gen 5 game with these 5 gen 6 pokemon in it. Thats the same main character design from black, isnt it?

Also, almost all of them look like Fakemon. Actually Im waiting for another announcement saying that everyone is gullible and that theres no gen 6. Fenniken is the only one that looks like an actual pokemon, while the others look like what people created for Oshawott and the other unova starters when they only released their profiles

At first I thought Y (X?) was a moose and I started laughing XD That wouldve been great

laugh at my stupidity
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 08, 2013, 02:24:35 PM
Quote from: blueflower999 on January 08, 2013, 02:21:30 PMHoly crap, Cobraroll. You're digging waaaaay too deep into it.  :P

I mean, since when do video game characters follow these guidelines? Look at a Bulborb from Pikmin. That thing could never stand up if it were real.
O_o
Your picture was of a Bulborb when I was reading your post. Odd coincidence.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on January 08, 2013, 02:36:48 PM
We need a new poll xD
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on January 08, 2013, 02:37:38 PM
Haha indeed we do!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on January 08, 2013, 02:48:33 PM
guys, if you look at the logos of the games, it's clear:

The red dragon is Y

and the Blue deer thing is X.

The proof is in the pudding. At the edges of the Y are claw-like things that resemble those of the dragon, and the X's top edges resemble that of the deer's antlers.


...also, how did the desire for a moose pokemon turn into an elk? I dont give a crap about elks, they're too much like deer in my opinion. Moose are nothing like deer OR elk, so that's what I'm looking forward to most. omg, this might affect my story's list of available wild pokemon... >:(
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on January 08, 2013, 02:54:47 PM
Quote from: Kman96 on January 08, 2013, 02:48:33 PMguys, if you look at the logos of the games, it's clear:

The red dragon is Y

and the Blue deer thing is X.

The proof is in the pudding. At the edges of the Y are claw-like things that resemble those of the dragon, and the X's top edges resemble that of the deer's antlers.


...also, how did the desire for a moose pokemon turn into an elk? I dont give a crap about elks, they're too much like deer in my opinion. Moose are nothing like deer OR elk, so that's what I'm looking forward to most. omg, this might affect my story's list of available wild pokemon... >:(
Agreed Agreed Agreed Agreed



I wanna see the water starter's evolutions so much! I bet they look awesome!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on January 08, 2013, 03:06:39 PM
I want my fennec fox evoultions~ I'm so happy there's more fox pokemon :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on January 08, 2013, 03:23:49 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on January 08, 2013, 03:06:39 PMmore fox pokemon :D
Well if I ever get a 3DS.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SuperFireKirby on January 08, 2013, 05:49:03 PM
Is it me, or does Chespin look almost exactly like Oshawott with a plant hat?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 08, 2013, 05:50:50 PM
Quote from: SuperFireKirby on January 08, 2013, 05:49:03 PMIs it me, or does Chespin look almost exactly like Oshawott with a plant hat?
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on January 08, 2013, 01:06:52 PMTo quote my older brother:
"It looks like... what's that water starter?... Oshawott... plus Slowking."
Nope (I've had to quote that alot today). :P

And:
Quote from: spitllama on January 08, 2013, 05:35:55 PMThe grass starter looks like a Patrat with a hat.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on January 08, 2013, 05:55:04 PM
NO STOP IT, CHESPIN IS AMAZING
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 08, 2013, 06:19:53 PM
Quote from: Jub3r7 on January 08, 2013, 05:55:04 PMNO STOP IT, CHESPIN IS AMAZING
The design isn't. :P But then again, that's just my opinion; obviously, there are often divided opinions.

Usually, I love the grass starters (especially Treecko, Turtwig, and Snivy), but I'm not too sure about this one (I'll wait to give out a full judgement until I see the evolutions).
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on January 08, 2013, 06:57:35 PM
Chespin is so cute ;A;
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Zunawe on January 08, 2013, 07:10:00 PM
I feel like they need to start making the grass starters at least look cool. Of all the games I've played, the grass starter isn't really the coolest/cutest, and the stats and disadvantages at the start of the game really don't give many people a reason to get it.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on January 08, 2013, 07:14:46 PM
I thought Snivy looked really cool. And Turtwig evolved into a part ground type, so that gave it some advantage against fire types.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on January 08, 2013, 07:15:58 PM
Yet gave it a 4x damage to ice...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on January 08, 2013, 07:58:00 PM
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on January 08, 2013, 02:22:13 PMlaugh at my stupidity
When I was looking through the current TWG, I came across your post and was confused.

You shouldn't have deleted that post.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on January 09, 2013, 04:18:25 AM
Quote from: Jub3r7 on January 08, 2013, 05:55:04 PMNO STOP IT, CHESPIN IS AMAZING
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: garlicbananas on January 09, 2013, 01:10:49 PM
Change the Poll to which starter you want.  I'd like to see those results.

Mine's Chespin, probably because I don't know what he's based off of (if anything) so I don't feel held to worldly ideas by him.  Even though it is Pokemon, so anything goes.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 09, 2013, 01:12:58 PM
Quote from: garlicbananas on January 09, 2013, 01:10:49 PMMine's Chespin, probably because I don't know what he's based off of (if anything) so I don't feel held to worldly ideas by him.  Even though it is Pokemon, so anything goes.
Grass otter. :P Bit of a beaver, you might say. Trying to disguise it with some sort of weird Slowking-looking hat. :P :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on January 09, 2013, 01:19:11 PM
^it's a chipmunk, and its head looks nothing like the Shellder on Slowking's head. No idea why you keep saying that.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 09, 2013, 01:31:34 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on January 09, 2013, 01:19:11 PM^it's a chipmunk, and its head looks nothing like the Shellder on Slowking's head. No idea why you keep saying that.
1: Two front "spikes."
2: The way it appears to fit on their heads (unless Chespin's is actually part of it).
3: Weird spiky formation on top.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on January 09, 2013, 02:10:31 PM
I actually didn't think it reminded me of anything. It looked pretty original to me, so I don't even know what y'all are talking about.
I like Chespin. It's definitely my choice, out of the starters. Though, I might change my mind after seeing the evolutions..
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on January 09, 2013, 03:19:57 PM
ALL OF YOU ARE WRONG.

Quote from: BulbapediaChespin is a combination of chestnut and pin. It may also be from chinkapin, the name of some species of chestnut.
Harimaron is a combination of 蝟 harinezumi (hedgehog), 針 hari (needle), and marron (French for chestnut).

So. Chestnut, Fox, and toad.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on January 10, 2013, 05:53:47 AM
CHESPIN!!! WATCH OUT!!! THE MANKEY GANG IS HERE!!!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on January 10, 2013, 07:12:10 AM
Guys, Fennekin's evolutions won't be a Fire/Psychic or that kinda shiz

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fennec_fox
They only live in the desert or close to it so Fennekin's evolutions will most likely become Fire/Rock or Fire/Ground.
It will suck ass with 4x weakness to Water, lolz
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Clanker37 on January 10, 2013, 08:27:35 AM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on January 10, 2013, 07:12:10 AMGuys, Fennekin's evolutions won't be a Fire/Psychic or that kinda shiz

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fennec_fox
They only live in the desert or close to it so Fennekin's evolutions will most likely become Fire/Rock or Fire/Ground.
It will suck ass with 4x weakness to Water, lolz
Since when has Game Freak gone by actual real animals for their typing? Empoleon's Water/Steel, for god's sake.

But a Fire/Rock/Ground Pokemon would be good, since Camerupt and Magcargo kinda suck ass.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on January 10, 2013, 08:42:18 AM
Quote from: Clanker37 on January 10, 2013, 08:27:35 AMSince when has Game Freak gone by actual real animals for their typing? Empoleon's Water/Steel, for god's sake.
Empoleon is based on emperor penguin. :P They gave him Steel typing because if you give a crown, it wouldn't make any sense to keep it as a pure Water(and the other starters had also a secondary type) so Steel because that's the closest type to a crown.

edit: Check out this shiz :P
http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Column:On_the_Origin_of_Species
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Clanker37 on January 10, 2013, 10:44:48 AM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on January 10, 2013, 08:42:18 AMEmpoleon is based on emperor penguin. :P They gave him Steel typing because if you give a crown, it wouldn't make any sense to keep it as a pure Water(and the other starters had also a secondary type) so Steel because that's the closest type to a crown.

edit: Check out this shiz :P
http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Column:On_the_Origin_of_Species
I was noting to the fact that a penguin would most likely to be Water/Ice due to it's icy habitat. But if you want more examples then:

Nidoking/Queen: Two Poison/Ground types. I get that it has Posion barbs, but Ground? The only way I can see them being Ground is because they're so fat :P

Slugma/Magcargo: A fire type slug/snail with no likeness to the Bug type at all. In fact, Magcargo is basically anti-Bug as you can get because of both it's STAB being super effective towards Bug.

Altaria: Dragon/Flying. DRAGON? Why on earth would you give Altaria Dragon? It makes no sense. Dragons are supposed to be epic looking, fear inducing Pokemon with a university degree in badassery. Altaria looks like it want to hug you. In fact, Swablu has a habit of cleaning things. THE SPAWN OF ALTARIA IS A CLEANING LADY. Not Dragon worthy.

Azurill: A Normal type. This is the spawn of Marill, one of the first 2nd gen Pokemon shown, who is a Water type, which begs the question. Why was Azurill made a Normal type, when it's preexisting family is already Water? According to its Pokedex, it lives in water. And it's tail is used as a flotation device, like Buizel's scarf. So why Normal?

Clefairy Family: Normal. These are the fairy Pokemon. FAIRY POKEMON. They are known for using Metronome to use any move. They live in Mt. Moon, a place where mostly rugged Rock types, or nocturnal Zubats hang out. It has wings. Why on earth Game Freak didn't make this Pokemon Psychic or even Flying, is beyond me. But no, instead we're given another generic Normal type which is basically Jigglypuff with a moon fetish.

Porygon Family: These are among the most creative of Pokemon. They're computer made Pokemon. They're pretty darn awesome. But, why has Game Freak once again shunned a unique Pokemon with a great back story, into the Normal corner? God knows why Porygon was made Normal over Electric, Psychic or in the case of Porygon2 and Z, Steel. But no, once again a great Pokemon family has been ruined by the fact that it can't hit anything Super-effectively.

End Rant.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on January 10, 2013, 10:55:17 AM
Nidoking can tap into the earth power. Slugma/Magcargo is NOT Bug, Magcargo is Fire/Rock due to its shell. Altaria is definitely a cool Dragon 'mon. Azurill can't swim. Clefairy can FLOAT, not fly, and does not seem like a Psychic. Polygon doesn't seem like an electric or steel at all.

On the other hand, yes typically a penguin would be ice-type.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on January 10, 2013, 11:00:28 AM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on January 10, 2013, 10:55:17 AMNidoking can tap into the earth power. Slugma/Magcargo is NOT Bug, Magcargo is Fire/Rock due to its shell. Altaria is definitely a cool Dragon 'mon. Azurill can't swim. Clefairy can FLOAT, not fly, and does not seem like a Psychic. Polygon doesn't seem like an electric or steel at all.

On the other hand, yes typically a penguin would be ice-type.
I was about to type something similar when I saw you had already done it.
In other words; my thoughts exactly
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on January 10, 2013, 12:47:01 PM
Should I go Timid or Modest for this Kyurem?

Kyurem-W @ Life Orb

Draco Meteor
Ice Beam
Fusion Flare
Roost
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on January 10, 2013, 12:49:33 PM
Timid, I think.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on January 10, 2013, 01:00:39 PM
Ok. At first I was thinking modest might be good since I'm not running choice specs. Then I've got life orb, +sp. atk. nature and can still change moves (I would really hate to get stuck on draco meteor).

What will I be outspeeding with timid?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on January 10, 2013, 01:58:12 PM
Oooh... double checking, Kyurem's got 95 base speed. So not too much, but at least give its speed a boost anyway to help it out.
Title: Re: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on January 10, 2013, 03:33:11 PM
Quote from: spitllama on January 10, 2013, 01:00:39 PMThen I've got life orb, +sp. atk. nature and can still change moves (I would really hate to get stuck on draco meteor).
That's why you switch out after using draco meteor.
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on January 10, 2013, 03:39:36 PM
So you would say timid with specs Shado?
Title: Re: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on January 10, 2013, 03:51:05 PM
Quote from: spitllama on January 10, 2013, 03:39:36 PMSo you would say timid with specs Shado?
Sure if you want it to be a hit and runner.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on January 11, 2013, 06:09:39 AM
Quote from: Shadoninja on January 10, 2013, 03:51:05 PMSure if you want it to be a hit and runner.
I do not recommend this that much because of it's weakness to Stealth Rocks. It's easy to kill it from 50% range.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on January 11, 2013, 08:49:24 AM
I FOUND MY BLACK 2 <3
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on January 11, 2013, 09:45:05 AM
I hate to do this again.... but I'm so torn...

Kyurem (Timid)
HP: 23
Atk: 20
Def: 10
Sp. Atk: 30
Sp. Def: 16
Spd: 29


Soooooooo clooooooose. Can't decide if I should try again or not.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on January 11, 2013, 10:15:08 AM
I guess it's decent. Since you're not going for a Scarf variant 29 is okay, and 30 is good too if you run Choice Specs.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on January 11, 2013, 10:16:50 AM
Woohoo thanks Roz ;D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on January 11, 2013, 10:30:31 AM
Well its defenses suck but eh if you're not RNG'ing it you can't have everything
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on January 11, 2013, 11:58:49 AM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on January 11, 2013, 06:09:39 AMI do not recommend this that much because of it's weakness to Stealth Rocks. It's easy to kill it from 50% range.
That's why you use a rapid spinner.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on January 11, 2013, 12:25:56 PM
Quote from: Shadoninja on January 11, 2013, 11:58:49 AMThat's why you use a rapid spinner.
Yes, but still. Rapid Spinners can't always get rid of all the rocks set up on the field in one game and they give the opponent a good chance to predict a switch to the spinner and counter it.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 11, 2013, 12:30:33 PM
Quote from: Shadoninja on January 11, 2013, 11:58:49 AMThat's why you use a rapid spinner.
Hmmm... that gives me an idea...
Baton Pass-ing a White Herb Shell Smash + Ingrain (and maybe even a Calm Mind, if possible) into a Magic Bounce Espeon (that also has Baton Pass itself, to counter any super-effective types coming in).

The Espeon (Timid nature) might look something like this:
Reflect
Baton Pass
Psychic
Psyshock

252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Item: Leftovers/Light Clay
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on January 11, 2013, 12:35:42 PM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on January 11, 2013, 12:30:33 PMHmmm... that gives me an idea...
Baton Pass-ing a White Herb Shell Smash + Ingrain (and maybe even a Calm Mind, if possible) into a Magic Bounce Espeon (that also has Baton Pass itself, to counter any super-effective types coming in).
What about Skill Link Cloyster?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 11, 2013, 12:41:04 PM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on January 11, 2013, 12:35:42 PMWhat about Skill Link Cloyster?
Magic Bounce on Espeon reflects any of those hazards and stuff. I was just considering it for a team of my own (especially because I'm training an Magic Bounce Espeon in White 2), although Cloyster might be a good backup in some situations.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on January 11, 2013, 01:04:20 PM
Yes but you get walled by a single Dark-Type.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 11, 2013, 01:17:57 PM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on January 11, 2013, 01:04:20 PMYes but you get walled by a single Dark-Type.
That's what Baton Pass is for; I thought I pointed that out... :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on January 11, 2013, 01:47:22 PM
Basically a Hydreigon would mess that up. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 11, 2013, 01:57:40 PM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on January 11, 2013, 01:47:22 PMBasically a Hydreigon would mess that up. :P
You could easily Baton Pass out to Cloyster or Lucario (with Aura Sphere/Close Combat and Choice Scarf, to outspeed and destroy it :P). If Hydreigon uses Dark Pulse to try and defeat Espeon, then Lucario might be a better choice.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on January 11, 2013, 01:59:13 PM
The point is that it will Dark Pulse before you even get to use Baton Pass. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 11, 2013, 02:19:46 PM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on January 11, 2013, 01:59:13 PMThe point is that it will Dark Pulse before you even get to use Baton Pass. :P
Calm Mind should be required, I guess, to avoid any Special Sweepers.

EDIT: DERP. Espeon with Shell Smash and Timid won't have any trouble out-speeding Hydreigon.
Espeon has base speed of 110; Hydreigon has 98.
If Lucario has Steadfast or Justified, it could easily take out Hydreigon with a Close Combat. If Hydreigon is "locked" with Choice Specs, the opponent will have to switch out (or not :P).
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on January 12, 2013, 12:58:47 AM
forgot to post this:

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/36661985/Pictars/IMG_0541.JPG)
Pokemon and it's stupid Roadblocking/Railroading
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 12, 2013, 01:05:45 AM
What, where, and how did this happen?? O_o
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on January 12, 2013, 01:11:51 AM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on January 11, 2013, 02:19:46 PMEDIT: DERP. Espeon with Shell Smash and Timid won't have any trouble out-speeding Hydreigon.
Espeon has base speed of 110; Hydreigon has 98.
If Lucario has Steadfast or Justified, it could easily take out Hydreigon with a Close Combat. If Hydreigon is "locked" with Choice Specs, the opponent will have to switch out (or not :P).
*blushes*
Sowwy, I somehow forgot Shell Smash's Speed boost. :-[
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on January 12, 2013, 01:13:01 AM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on January 12, 2013, 01:05:45 AMWhat, where, and how did this happen?? O_o
It's the route south of Undella. They're there before you beat the League.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Clanker37 on January 12, 2013, 10:02:27 AM
Quote from: Shadoninja on January 12, 2013, 12:58:47 AMPokemon and it's stupid Roadblocking/Railroading
xD I found that hilarious. Game Freak really is really creative with it's roadblockings. Like the RageCandyBar guy and the Psyduck.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on January 12, 2013, 10:18:08 AM
I liked that one because they were making fun of themselves.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 13, 2013, 01:57:30 AM
I've taken an interest in Pokemon-type quizzes.

The first, merely a chart based on birthdays, said I was Fire/Dark.
The second said I was Ground (Cave of Dragonflies quiz, rather lackluster...).
The third said I was Flying (exact opposite of the results, apparently :P).
The fourth said that I was Steel (probably because I said something to the effect that I had a hard shell).
The most recent said I was Dragon.

Ah, varied results... I suppose, if I could have three types, I might be Steel/Dragon/Dark (epic).
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Clanker37 on January 13, 2013, 08:16:38 AM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on January 13, 2013, 01:57:30 AMAh, varied results... I suppose, if I could have three types, I might be Steel/Dragon/Dark (epic).
And be OHKO'd by a Mach Punch :P

On that note, I cannot believe that we haven't got a Dark/Dragon Pokemon yet. Or Psychic/Dragon. That would be epic. Most types need to be mixed with Dragon :P
Title: Re: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on January 13, 2013, 08:24:08 AM
Quote from: Clanker37 on January 13, 2013, 08:16:38 AMAnd be OHKO'd by a Mach Punch :P

On that note, I cannot believe that we haven't got a Dark/Dragon Pokemon yet. Or Psychic/Dragon. That would be epic. Most types need to be mixed with Dragon :P
Deino/zweilous(?)/Hydreigon
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on January 13, 2013, 08:58:10 AM
and Latios/Latias...?

We need more Dragon/Steel pokémon!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Clanker37 on January 13, 2013, 09:09:28 AM
Quote from: Jompa on January 13, 2013, 08:58:10 AMand Latios/Latias...?
Quote from: Shadoninja on January 13, 2013, 08:24:08 AMDeino/zweilous(?)/Hydreigon
Shh... :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on January 13, 2013, 12:06:53 PM
I think Hydreigon was really cool; I doubt they could make a cooler Pokemon with that type. I really want a Giratina-like Pokemon. That was one of the coolest Legendary designs ever, and I'd like to see a Dragon- and Ghost-type that's more easily obtainable and not banned from tournaments.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 13, 2013, 12:09:37 PM
Quote from: Clanker37 on January 13, 2013, 08:16:38 AMAnd be OHKO'd by a Mach Punch :P
Prankster ability. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Clanker37 on January 13, 2013, 12:15:09 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on January 13, 2013, 12:06:53 PMI think Hydreigon was really cool; I doubt they could make a cooler Pokemon with that type. I really want a Giratina-like Pokemon. That was one of the coolest Legendary designs ever, and I'd like to see a Dragon- and Ghost-type that's more easily obtainable and not banned from tournaments.

Agreed. Also another/more Ice/Dragon's. Kyurem's just...eww.

Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on January 13, 2013, 12:09:37 PMPrankster ability. :P
Fine. Close Combat with a Lum Berry. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 13, 2013, 12:22:59 PM
Quote from: Clanker37 on January 13, 2013, 12:15:09 PMFine. Close Combat with a Lum Berry. :P
How about Roar, then? ;)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Clanker37 on January 13, 2013, 12:27:32 PM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on January 13, 2013, 12:22:59 PMHow about Roar, then? ;)
OK, Octillery with Suction Cups and Focus Blast while holding a Lum Berry. ;D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 13, 2013, 12:38:05 PM
Quote from: Clanker37 on January 13, 2013, 12:27:32 PMOK, Octillery with Suction Cups and Focus Blast while holding a Lum Berry. ;D
Then Thunder with Choice Specs. >:D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Clanker37 on January 13, 2013, 12:52:14 PM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on January 13, 2013, 12:38:05 PMThen Thunder with Choice Specs. >:D
Oh, oh, oh! Did I say Octillery? I meant Hidden Power Fighting, Soundproof Electrode, with Lum Berry. Which survives your silly Thunder/outspeeds you. :3
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 13, 2013, 01:19:37 PM
Quote from: Clanker37 on January 13, 2013, 12:52:14 PMOh, oh, oh! Did I say Octillery? I meant Hidden Power Fighting, Soundproof Electrode, with Lum Berry. Which survives your silly Thunder/outspeeds you. :3
Earth Power, which is also covered by Choice Specs. ;) 150 Base Speed. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on January 13, 2013, 02:32:06 PM
*Fight! Fight! Fight!*
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on January 13, 2013, 02:34:19 PM
No Guard Sheer Cold with Focus Sash

Boom.

I won.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 13, 2013, 02:45:07 PM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on January 13, 2013, 02:34:19 PMNo Guard Sheer Cold with Focus Sash

Boom.

I won.
Destiny Bond. :P

Or Pressure + Protect/Detect (though that would take longer).
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on January 13, 2013, 02:51:52 PM
Destiny Bond means you won't win. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 13, 2013, 02:55:51 PM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on January 13, 2013, 02:51:52 PMDestiny Bond means you won't win. :P
But you wouldn't either? :P Because both of us fainted, in the end??
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on January 13, 2013, 03:01:07 PM
But I would win because then I wouldn't have to continue this (pointless) discussion!

gg
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on January 13, 2013, 03:02:29 PM
I'm replaying Emerald again, and oh man, I can't get over how beautiful Hoenn's music is...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 13, 2013, 03:03:38 PM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on January 13, 2013, 03:01:07 PMBut I would win because then I wouldn't have to continue this (pointless) discussion!

gg
gg

I wonder if three-typed Pokemon would ever become a reality... Combo moves and triple battles were my idea. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on January 13, 2013, 03:10:37 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on January 13, 2013, 03:02:29 PMI'm replaying Emerald again, and oh man, I can't get over how beautiful Hoenn's music is...
ahh, the trumpets.. I miss the 3. Gen
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on January 13, 2013, 03:12:22 PM
Quote from: Jompa on January 13, 2013, 03:10:37 PMahh, the trumpets..
Gotta love 'em all, they were so awesome.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on January 13, 2013, 03:21:58 PM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on January 13, 2013, 03:03:38 PMgg

I wonder if three-typed Pokemon would ever become a reality... Combo moves and triple battles were my idea. :P

Really doubt it, on both of your comments.

I really have grown fond of Hoenn's battle themes, my favorites in no particular order are:
Trainer
Aqua / Magma Team
Gym Leader
Brendan / May
Aqua / Magma Team Leader
Elite Four

The Brendan / May theme, especially, is really impressive. Also, Route 119 may be the best route theme in existence.

Yeah I really love that soundtrack. Hmm, I haven't reviewed it yet.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on January 13, 2013, 03:23:27 PM
The surfing music is still my favorite... and biking... and Rustboro... and all of them pretty much.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on January 13, 2013, 03:26:06 PM
God I have an arrangement of the surfing theme that's half finished...I would really like to finish it, the beginning half is beautiful on piano. It's becoming quite hard though. Hopefully I'll finish it soon.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on January 13, 2013, 03:37:34 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on January 13, 2013, 03:21:58 PMYeah I really love that soundtrack. Hmm, I haven't reviewed it yet.
gogogo

Some of my favorites are

Lilycove City (btw one of the best VGM pieces in video game history)
Surfing theme
Underwater theme
Champion Battle
Meteor Falls
Magma/Aqua Hideout
Drizzle
Regi Battle
VICTORY ROAD <3
Route 113 (one of the best Route themes ever)
and Mt. Pyre (Animal Crossing ftw xD)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on January 13, 2013, 03:38:26 PM
I like the surfing theme in Black and White, mainly because it's in clear reference to this song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFFNzipmvoY)
 ::)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on January 13, 2013, 03:44:27 PM
They just happen to have similar chord progressions in the intro, they're not that much alike actually. Just because a song sounds similar to another doesn't mean it's a remix or reference. I once had manio try to tell me that Ghostly Galaxy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6auJBLVeIb4) was a remix of Ricco Harbor (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5iSWG8RHAs). Of course, that WAS manio. ::)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on January 13, 2013, 03:47:56 PM
May be true, but it makes it a whole lot more likely when you compare this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzKRuwKyJmY) to this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idULzIIF950).  :P Even both the top comments acknowledge this similarity.

And even then, there's Route 10's similarity to Run, My Dog, Run.

Besides, Creatures Inc worked on EarthBound, so this really isn't that farfetch'd.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on January 13, 2013, 03:48:51 PM
Again, it's only the opening notes. The pieces themselves are structured differently, with different chord progressions.

Also nice pun.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Dudeman on January 13, 2013, 04:12:16 PM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on January 13, 2013, 03:37:34 PMVICTORY ROAD <3
The SSBB version is really what got me interested in Pokemon again. I heard it and was like, "OMG I LOVE THIS SONG" and went back and listened to the original again (though I still prefer the Brawl version...).
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on January 13, 2013, 04:13:58 PM
Brawl was pretty good about the Pokemon arrangements, but I really have trouble loving what they did with the Dialga/Palkia theme, it just wasn't as good as the original.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on January 13, 2013, 04:29:34 PM
Really? I love the Dialga/Palkia theme in Brawl! I put it on my MP3.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on January 14, 2013, 11:34:07 AM
There is a limit to what chord patterns the brain recognizes as "nice to listen to". Therefore chord progression isn't enough to identify a song, and therefore isn't copyrighted or anything.
Just because the first four measures of that Mother song had the same chord progression as the surfing theme, doesn't make it a reference. Of course, it COULD be inspired by it, because of the "every idea we'll ever have is something we've heard of before"-law. However it is actually not so likely that it is inspired by THIS particular song - the chord progression has probably been used before, in other songs.
Also, there's is a good chance that the composer just found that progression by chance, and though it sounded good.. because it does, it does sound good. This is the ideal chord progression he had in mind, because the human brain likes it. The same thing happened to the other composer and bam, the first four measures have similar chord progression.

So no, Blueflower - Most likely not a reference.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on January 14, 2013, 02:50:22 PM
I don't get why people call out pokemonand final fantasy for making their sequels exactly the same as the predeccesor when other series (like mario) do it too.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on January 14, 2013, 02:58:56 PM
Quote from: SocialFox on January 14, 2013, 02:50:22 PMI don't get why people call out pokemonand final fantasy for making their sequels exactly the same as the predeccesor when other series (like mario) do it too.
omg, mario is like the worst...How many different platformers can you MAKE?? At least other games switch up the locations and other things.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on January 14, 2013, 03:04:07 PM
But that's the funny thing. The last 2D Mario platformer that they made before the NSMB series was Super Mario World on the Super Nintendo, and that came out in 1991, I believe. So why did it take so long for them to get back to the 2D style?

They make Mario games because they're fun. They were fun in 1985, and they're still fun today. That, and they sell well.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 15, 2013, 12:32:44 PM
Oh yeah; exactly 10,000 dream points!! I have a Vanilluxe tucked in, so time to venture to Icy Cave and find a Gible!

EDIT: Gible are rarer than I thought... I might have to come back tomorrow...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Dudeman on January 15, 2013, 01:29:47 PM
Just thought this was worth noting. (http://didyouknowgaming.com/post/40624400805/pokemon)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on January 15, 2013, 01:31:36 PM
"Fennekin - Dog"

wtf it's a fox
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 15, 2013, 01:34:41 PM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on January 15, 2013, 01:31:36 PM"Fennekin - Dog"

wtf it's a fox
Typhlosion... rat!? Lolololol. I always thought it was based on some sort of mutated weasel-bear.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on January 15, 2013, 01:41:59 PM
Nope. Cyndaquil is classified as a mouse.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 15, 2013, 01:43:08 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on January 15, 2013, 01:41:59 PMNope. Cyndaquil is classified as a mouse.
"Its appearance is based on the echidna, but it also has traits of shrews, such as its long snout."
It looks nothing like a mouse. :S
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on January 15, 2013, 01:44:02 PM
QuoteSpecies
Fire Mouse Pokémon
:P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on January 15, 2013, 01:44:48 PM
Have you ever even read the Pokedex? It's classified as a mouse.

Ninja'd.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on January 15, 2013, 01:45:35 PM
I didn't think Pikachu looked much like a mouse either. But now I kinda see it.

However, I know some people who don't like Pokemon, but somehow love Pikachu to the point that they'll question me, who actually play Pokemon, on the fact that Pikachu is the ELECTRIC MOUSE POKEMON. It's a mouse. Look it up.

EDIT: Wait, it's only the Mouse Pokemon? Huh. I thought I remember reading somewhere it was the Electric Mouse Pokemon. Whatever. It's still a mouse though.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on January 15, 2013, 02:03:04 PM
Regenerator Slowpoke Get! Now I can work on my Regenerator team.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on January 15, 2013, 02:06:47 PM
Quote from: Shadoninja on January 15, 2013, 02:03:04 PMRegenerator Slowpoke Get! Now I can work on my Regenerator team.
You're welcome. ;)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on January 15, 2013, 02:08:25 PM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on January 15, 2013, 02:06:47 PMYou're welcome. ;)
Thanks, WB.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on January 15, 2013, 06:36:54 PM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on January 15, 2013, 01:31:36 PM"Fennekin - Dog"

wtf it's a fox
*fennec FOX, distant cousin of the dog:

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F24.media.tumblr.com%2Faa09d14814bdd88c53a443840bdcf7e3%2Ftumblr_mgorm6fO9o1qgs84wo1_500.jpg&hash=5c0c7f0c37cee547ffcdc06c80060e61f1603898)

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2F65db5e6eaee3524a7112a512d5ea3b6f%2Ftumblr_mgnwvtlOxg1ql0fhmo1_500.jpg&hash=f2e2a5c582691403f067b1c28dec6aecd4821541)

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2Ff661765f46f6730352501a88471f1b7d%2Ftumblr_mgdg74zF6f1s2a07so1_400.gif&hash=675286166780f3cb6c5e4f61c4acd8c3563ccd15)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on January 15, 2013, 06:38:56 PM
/dies from the cuteness
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on January 15, 2013, 06:39:14 PM
ahhhhh

precious fennec foxes ahhh
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Dudeman on January 15, 2013, 06:45:14 PM
Daawwwwwwwwwwwww...
That just made my day.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 15, 2013, 07:53:18 PM
Quote from: Jub3r7 on January 15, 2013, 06:36:54 PM(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2F65db5e6eaee3524a7112a512d5ea3b6f%2Ftumblr_mgnwvtlOxg1ql0fhmo1_500.jpg&hash=f2e2a5c582691403f067b1c28dec6aecd4821541)
Hey! That's my dog Leia!! Except she doesn't have that color fur... :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on January 15, 2013, 08:24:35 PM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on January 15, 2013, 07:53:18 PMHey! That's my dog Leia!! Except she doesn't have that color fur... :P
are you sure its a dog?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on January 15, 2013, 11:02:03 PM
Quote from: Jub3r7 on January 15, 2013, 06:36:54 PM*fennec FOX, distant cousin of the dog:
Humans are distant cousins of monkeys, it's all part of the evolution, man
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 16, 2013, 10:15:02 AM
Quote from: SocialFox on January 15, 2013, 08:24:35 PMare you sure its a dog?
There are theories that the Chihuahua is somehow related to foxes (specifically Fennec Foxes??)... which is ironic, because Jack Russell Terriers (she and her brother Luke are probably a mix of those two breeds) were bred to hunt foxes. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on January 16, 2013, 11:06:26 AM
How the hell can you know about dog breeding history?! :O

It's not possible to be 14 and know that. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 16, 2013, 11:13:59 AM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on January 16, 2013, 11:06:26 AMHow the hell can you know about dog breeding history?! :O

It's not possible to be 14 and know that. :P
It's possible, just not easy.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on January 16, 2013, 11:30:24 AM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on January 16, 2013, 11:13:59 AMIt's possible, just not easy.
I am now worried about you since I didn't see the :P smiley in your post!!! D:
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 16, 2013, 11:50:59 AM
I'm not always non-serious...

And also, I finally have gotten a Rough Skin Gible for FSM (see page 169), but it's male (I'm not sure if he wants to breed it to get a different nature).
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on January 16, 2013, 11:58:01 AM
Roz also offers him one XD

The gender doesn't matter at all. But he hopes that none of the EVs have been used in them!!! idk why...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 16, 2013, 12:00:26 PM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on January 16, 2013, 11:58:01 AMRoz also offers him one XD

The gender doesn't matter at all. But he hopes that none of the EVs have been used in them!!! idk why...
Hehehe.

It's freshly-picked from the Dream World. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on January 20, 2013, 02:18:01 PM
Holy crap this has become dead.

Would it be considered OP if a pokemon used a completly custom move?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 20, 2013, 02:31:40 PM
Quote from: SocialFox on January 20, 2013, 02:18:01 PMHoly crap this has become dead.

Would it be considered OP if a pokemon used a completly custom move?
Only if you somehow managed to hack a really powerful move into the game itself. :P

But not if for "personal" or Fakemon purposes. Example:
TM 28
Tombstoner; type: Steel; special.
PP: 1 (Max 3)
Base power: 480
Accuracy: 100%

Not affected by Protect or similar moves; ignores stat modifiers, STAB, and other modifiers.
Takes a turn to charge.
Only Pulviban, Mew, and Arceus can learn it.

EDIT: I think we need a "General Pokemon Battle Club" for things like this; battle suggestions and move/Pokemon "potential," since the Pokemon Showdown topic seems to be geared more toward Showdown-battles...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Clanker37 on January 21, 2013, 08:31:10 AM
I always thought of Tombstony of a kind of Beta Rock Tomb. I mean they both have Tomb and Stone is lock Rock. But I first experienced Tombstony in Gen 3, when they had Rock Tomb, they didn't have Rock Tomb in Gen 1.

This theory is flawed :/
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: jxjxjx on January 22, 2013, 01:23:37 AM
I just got a heavy metal male aron from the dream world! :D Maybe I would just get a F.E.A.R aron out of it!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Wolf on January 22, 2013, 03:24:53 AM
I can't choose anything from the poll. Because i don't even have the console or portable console to play it.
Title: Re: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on January 22, 2013, 05:53:22 AM
Quote from: jxjxjx on January 22, 2013, 01:23:37 AMI just got a heavy metal male aron from the dream world! :D Maybe I would just get a F.E.A.R aron out of it!
FEARons usually use sturdy not heavy metal.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on January 22, 2013, 06:04:54 AM
Quote from: Shadoninja on January 22, 2013, 05:53:22 AMFEARons usually use sturdy not heavy metal.
He meant that he would breed one with a Sturdy.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Clanker37 on January 22, 2013, 07:16:03 AM
FEARons are so cheap. Seriously, if I see an Aron on someones team I forfeit straight away. Not even going to waste my time.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on January 22, 2013, 07:32:16 AM
Did I miss something? What the heck is a F.E.A.R. pokémon?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on January 22, 2013, 07:35:51 AM
To counter it, all you need is to own a Ghost Type, or anybody that resists sand storm.  :P

@JDMEK5 A FEAR Ratata (usually level 1) has a focus sash to survive the first hit, endeavor to take you down to 1 hp, and quick attack to finish you off in the next turn.
A FEAR Aron has the ability sturdy to survive the hit, endeavor to take you to 1 hp, and sandstorm to kill you in the same turn. Usually holds a shell bell so it can do this over and over again. :(
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on January 22, 2013, 08:14:38 AM
I remember I thought I had invented a super-original-and-cool tactic, by using a Taillow, but it turned out to be the well-know "FEAR tactic" :P
Title: Re: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on January 22, 2013, 08:53:20 AM
Quote from: Jompa on January 22, 2013, 08:14:38 AMI remember I thought I had invented a super-original-and-cool tactic, by using a Taillow, but it turned out to be the well-know "FEAR tactic" :P
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdl.dropbox.com%2Fu%2F36661985%2FPictars%2FSlowpoke%2520FEAR.jpg&hash=b3e4b186cbf39a0c6da8bc5d3b30da83180b845d)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on January 22, 2013, 10:57:32 AM
Oh. That's actually pretty brilliant.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on January 22, 2013, 11:01:02 AM
to be honest, I've never heard of the name "FEAR" until just yesterday when you guys brought it up...

I'd heard of the focus sash-endeavor-quick attack manuever before, but I've never used it/seen it used before....I also had no idea that there were other, similar tactics that performed similar results.

So, I guess i'm that Slowpoke :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on January 22, 2013, 11:05:55 AM
I was against this one random guy on Pokémon Online and he basically took me out completely with his Darkrai.

It was probably holding a quick claw.
He put me to sleep right away with some move like hypnosis.
I was constantly getting hurt because of his ability.
I was stuck getting hurt and sleeping while he used double team about 800 times.
So when I finally woke up, he just put me to sleep again and used dream eater till I died.
(And even if his sleeping move were to miss, I wouldn't be able to hit him anyways because of his huge evasiveness)
Repeat with the rest of my team.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 22, 2013, 11:25:08 AM
Quote from: Clanker37 on January 22, 2013, 07:16:03 AMFEARons are so cheap. Seriously, if I see an Aron on someones team I forfeit straight away. Not even going to waste my time.
Better to fight and have a chance of winning... :P Will-o-Wisp is a good move to have sometimes...

Quote from: JDMEK5 on January 22, 2013, 11:05:55 AMI was against this one random guy on Pokémon Online and he basically took me out completely with his Darkrai.

It was probably holding a quick claw.
He put me to sleep right away with some move like hypnosis.
I was constantly getting hurt because of his ability.
I was stuck getting hurt and sleeping while he used double team about 800 times.
So when I finally woke up, he just put me to sleep again and used dream eater till I died.
(And even if his sleeping move were to miss, I wouldn't be able to hit him anyways because of his huge evasiveness)
Repeat with the rest of my team.
Vital Spirit, Lum Berry, or a faster counter... :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on January 22, 2013, 11:50:20 AM
lol Shado.

But I actually used counter instead of endeavor..
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 22, 2013, 11:53:11 AM
Also, new event soon:
"For those of you with the English Black 2 & White 2 games, a new WiFi event has been announced. This WiFi event gives you a Level 50 Keldeo with the moves Sacred Sword, Aqua Jet, Hydro Pump and Swords Dance. It will run from January 25th 2013 until February 12th 2013 so get it while you can. We'll post any details about any further releases of this event." (serebii.net)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on January 22, 2013, 11:56:09 AM
Quote from: JDMEK5 on January 22, 2013, 11:05:55 AMI was against this one random guy on Pokémon Online and he basically took me out completely with his Darkrai.

It was probably holding a quick claw.
He put me to sleep right away with some move like hypnosis.
I was constantly getting hurt because of his ability.
I was stuck getting hurt and sleeping while he used double team about 800 times.
So when I finally woke up, he just put me to sleep again and used dream eater till I died.
(And even if his sleeping move were to miss, I wouldn't be able to hit him anyways because of his huge evasiveness)
Repeat with the rest of my team.
Darkrai has base 125 speed meaning it's max is 383. It probably used Dark Void (http://www.smogon.com/bw/moves/dark_void)
Just switch out if you're playing under sleep clause(which is very unlikely for assholes leading with Darkrai). If not, I usually switch between a sleeping pokemon and an awake one because they'll try to spam Dark Void/Hypnosis.
You should almost always switch out when your pokemon gets put to sleep anyway.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on January 23, 2013, 12:11:41 AM
By using Double Team, that guy violated all known competitive clauses anyway. I doubt that Sleep Clause was in effect if Evasion Clause wasn't.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on January 23, 2013, 02:49:10 AM
Quote from: Cobraroll on January 23, 2013, 12:11:41 AMBy using Double Team, that guy violated all known competitive clauses anyway. I doubt that Sleep Clause was in effect if Evasion Clause wasn't.
??? This is pokémon online terminology right? 'Cause it's greek to me. (The clause stuff)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 23, 2013, 03:03:00 AM
Quote from: JDMEK5 on January 23, 2013, 02:49:10 AM??? This is pokémon online terminology right? 'Cause it's greek to me. (The clause stuff)
Clauses are often a part of competitive battling (not just "duke it out until somebody wins" :P); Sleep Clause means that you can only cause the Sleep status on one of your opponent's Pokemon (not including Rest used by the opponent), something the opponent can very easily take advantage of.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on January 23, 2013, 09:38:47 AM
And Evasion Clause would be..?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on January 23, 2013, 09:48:58 AM
Double Team, Minimize, Sand Veil, Snow Cloak and that kinda stuff is banned.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on January 23, 2013, 09:51:36 AM
Evasion Clause is pretty much a staple of any competition.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on January 23, 2013, 10:54:19 AM
Quote from: JDMEK5 on January 23, 2013, 09:38:47 AMAnd Evasion Clause would be..?
Evasion Clause - A Pokemon may not have the moves Double Team or Minimize in its moveset.

http://www.smogon.com/bw/banlist/
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on January 23, 2013, 12:51:19 PM
Quote from: Bespinben on September 15, 2012, 08:16:24 PM(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1111.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fh475%2FBespinben%2Fa960958eb1016698280474ccdbc69f47.jpg&hash=2d671c5181739d70dc0c0fe80f01fd4dbb9e18ec)
So clauses are basically additional rules.
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on January 23, 2013, 01:14:31 PM
Yes, for use at the players' discretion
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on January 23, 2013, 01:30:07 PM
Ahhhhh... So I've got one remaining question: The Sleep Clause allows you to only put one opponent pokémon to sleep for the entire battle? Or only one sleeping pokémon allowed at a time? Or until that sleeping pokémon faints? (At which point you can sleepify another)
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on January 23, 2013, 01:32:33 PM
Only one at a time. So if Shado wants to switch out his asleep poke, you can't put another one of his to sleep until that one faints or it wakes up.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on January 23, 2013, 01:40:47 PM
Ah. K. Thanks.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on January 23, 2013, 09:41:28 PM
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6979983872/h67ECA4F8/)

...Whoops. Good one.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on January 23, 2013, 09:45:51 PM
It was a bit obvious the remakes were gonna be on a new console, but it is true other people probably didn't think of that...

Dunno WHEN we'll get 'em. But we will.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 23, 2013, 09:52:44 PM
Quote from: Kman96 on January 23, 2013, 09:41:28 PM(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6979983872/h67ECA4F8/)

...Whoops. Good one.
Yes, but we thought they would be part of G5. I doubt that they will be released as part of G6, for multiple reason (two I can think of right now :P):
1: Having to convert everything in Hoenn to 3D.
2: Discrepancy with future remakes/games.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on January 23, 2013, 09:53:09 PM
Hoenn in 3D would be awesome so who cares
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on January 23, 2013, 10:02:24 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on January 23, 2013, 09:53:09 PMHoenn in 3D would be awesome so who cares
It would be the best Pokémon game man would never even know. Nothing could surpass it...unless, of course, there was like a virtual-reality type thing...idk, you get the picture.

There's no reason WHY it won't happen. Did you catch all the gen 5 hints towards it? They wouldn't be in there if Game Freak didn't want to clue us in?

lets see...
  • The reinclusion of Dive.
  • The mention of Go-Go goggles in the desert
  • umm...I forgot some. I haven't played much of gen 5 lately.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 23, 2013, 10:13:42 PM
Quote from: Kman96 on January 23, 2013, 10:02:24 PMIt would be the best Pokémon game man would never even know. Nothing could surpass it...unless, of course, there was like a virtual-reality type thing...idk, you get the picture.

There's no reason WHY it won't happen. Did you catch all the gen 5 hints towards it? They wouldn't be in there if Game Freak didn't want to clue us in?

lets see...
  • The reinclusion of Dive.
  • The mention of Go-Go goggles in the desert
  • umm...I forgot some. I haven't played much of gen 5 lately.
...using that logic, it should've been in G5! :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Clanker37 on January 24, 2013, 02:50:32 AM
Quote from: Kman96 on January 23, 2013, 10:02:24 PMIt would be the best Pokémon game man would never even know. Nothing could surpass it...unless, of course, there was like a virtual-reality type thing...idk, you get the picture.

There's no reason WHY it won't happen. Did you catch all the gen 5 hints towards it? They wouldn't be in there if Game Freak didn't want to clue us in?

lets see...
  • The reinclusion of Dive.
  • The mention of Go-Go goggles in the desert
  • umm...I forgot some. I haven't played much of gen 5 lately.
There was so many! I made a lists some where on NSM. CBF finding it.

They might not remake RSE just based on the fact that we have access to the Pokes on it. Like, when 3rd gen switch came around, you couldn't migrate or trade between RSE and RBY or GSC. So I think they remade Gen 1 and 2 so that we would have access to the Pokemon and be able to complete the Pokedex. So, unless Gen 6 completely ignores the first 5 gens and makes Migrating impossible, then they might not do it based on the fact that it's still compatible with the current games, you just need to go through Gen 4 and 5 first.

However, going by that logic, it's been 10 or so years since RSE. The new, young Pokemon fans (The people Pokemon is aimed at :P) have no idea about Treeko or Mudkip. And they might not know about Bulbasaur or Charmander either considering FRLG was released during Gen 3. Though, Kanto was available in HGSS, so they probably know something. But they must also sit there looking at their Pokedex going "What the hell are the Pokemon 252 - 386?" So Game Freak may be nice to us and bless us with a  3D Hoenn game (GOD PLEASE) or they might be mean and say ,"Stuff it. They can migrate through DPP/HGSS >:D"
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on January 24, 2013, 12:36:41 PM
In my dreams, the music for the 3DS pokemon games is all orchestrated similar to the anime.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on January 24, 2013, 02:20:23 PM
^their original arrangements are better though. The orchestrations are just to give them new styles to score the show. The electronic orchestra sound works perfectly with the games.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on January 24, 2013, 02:26:13 PM
Arrangement challenge: Give the Hoenn music a "3 years later" treatment a la Kanto. Bonus points if you can provide a story of major events that happened in the 3 years.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on January 24, 2013, 02:33:25 PM
Quote from: Shadoninja on January 24, 2013, 02:26:13 PMArrangement challenge: Give the Hoenn music a "3 years later" treatment a la Kanto. Bonus points if you can provide a story of major events that happened in the 3 years.
I like the sound of that. (Pardon the pun!)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on January 24, 2013, 07:29:54 PM
Quote from: Kman96 on January 23, 2013, 10:02:24 PMIt would be the best Pokémon game man would never even know. Nothing could surpass it...unless, of course, there was like a virtual-reality type thing...idk, you get the picture.

There's no reason WHY it won't happen. Did you catch all the gen 5 hints towards it? They wouldn't be in there if Game Freak didn't want to clue us in?

lets see...
  • The reinclusion of Dive.
  • The mention of Go-Go goggles in the desert
  • umm...I forgot some. I haven't played much of gen 5 lately.
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6979983872/h67ECA4F8/)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on January 24, 2013, 08:01:06 PM
Quote from: Kman96 on January 23, 2013, 09:41:28 PM*same image*
...Whoops. Good one.

Waddle, it appears that someone hasn't been reading the thread ::)

Slowpoke.jpg
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on January 24, 2013, 08:58:25 PM
Whoops.

I meant to post it earlier but I was on 3DS and when I remembered it, I posted it and apparently missed that.

hooray for unnecessary posts
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on January 26, 2013, 02:53:35 AM
omg Zeroth Law XD.

The law that makes pokemon only use moves of types that are super effective in pokemon R/B/Y

commence trolling of Lance's dragonite with Tenticool.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on January 30, 2013, 07:19:58 AM
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6998105856/h3E56948B/)

/best
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on January 30, 2013, 11:26:54 AM
Hahahaha that's great
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on January 30, 2013, 11:49:35 AM
I laughed myself to tears! X'D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 30, 2013, 01:13:52 PM
Except from the fact that their eyes are different, and this (http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/b/b0/Bandai_Cubone_card.jpg), I believe it. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on January 30, 2013, 01:16:49 PM
Why do you have to come ruin a good joke? :(
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on January 30, 2013, 01:19:10 PM
Wow... it does look a lot like Kangaskhan...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Clanker37 on January 30, 2013, 09:44:49 PM
xD That's great! I like Dr. 'Wattson' in the background.

Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on January 30, 2013, 01:13:52 PMExcept from the fact that their eyes are different, and this (http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/b/b0/Bandai_Cubone_card.jpg), I believe it. :P
You know. I hate people like you. To engrossed with your own 'intelligence' to let a incorrect fact pass you by, especially when it's part of a joke. Well, you know what. You're not that smart. In fact you're pretty dumb. If you can't look past wrong facts in a joke, then you obviously fail at life. Go ruin jokes else where.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: EFitTrainr on January 30, 2013, 10:10:45 PM
You're gonna need a burn heal for that one ;)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on January 30, 2013, 10:14:23 PM
Quote from: shadowkirby on January 30, 2013, 10:10:45 PMYou're gonna need a burn heal for that one ;)
Wouldn't you need an Ice beam?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 31, 2013, 01:03:47 AM
Quote from: Clanker37 on January 30, 2013, 09:44:49 PMYou know. I hate people like you. To engrossed with your own 'intelligence' to let a incorrect fact pass you by, especially when it's part of a joke. Well, you know what. You're not that smart. In fact you're pretty dumb. If you can't look past wrong facts in a joke, then you obviously fail at life. Go ruin jokes else where.
And you are merely trying to demean me by implying I have no sense of humor. In fact, I was once criticised for having too much of a sense of humor (though the people who said it were quite rude themelves...).
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on January 31, 2013, 04:09:34 AM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on January 31, 2013, 01:03:47 AMAnd you are merely trying to demean me by implying I have no sense of humor. In fact, I was once criticised for having too much of a sense of humor (though the people who said it were quite rude themelves...).

I legit don't believe you XDDDD
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on January 31, 2013, 05:37:44 AM
Quote from: shadowkirby on January 30, 2013, 10:10:45 PM*A+++*
lol
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Clanker37 on January 31, 2013, 06:51:09 AM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on January 31, 2013, 01:03:47 AMAnd you are merely trying to demean me by implying I have no sense of humor. In fact, I was once criticised for having too much of a sense of humor (though the people who said it were quite rude themelves...).
Wut. -.-

I'm not demeaning because I hate you. What sort of a human being would that make me? No, I'm ranting because I hate people that insist on ruining a good joke, just so they may the spotlight on them, which you did and have done a lot of in the past. I apologize if I offended you, but it's what I think. Plus, this is the internet. People aren't nice on the internet.
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on January 31, 2013, 07:52:38 AM
Let's take a look at this post for a second:

Quote from: Clanker37 on January 31, 2013, 06:51:09 AMI'm not demeaning because I hate you.

Riight. I'm pretty sure hating someone is degrading.

QuotePlus, this is the internet. People aren't nice on the internet.

If this is justification for you being an ass, then I don't want to live on this planet anymore. You should really consider at what point you actually "hate" someone. It's a pretty strong word.



From the other side of the aisle though, BDS, you are being pretty obnoxious. Obviously no one really thinks that Diglett and Cubone are the same thing. You posting evidence to throw off the joke makes all of us just roll our eyes. Just run with it and be quiet.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on January 31, 2013, 08:32:44 AM
Pokémon Trainer Red stripped of all Pokemon League titles; evidence of Rare Candy use.

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/36661985/Pictars/Red%20Armstrong.png)

The Pokémon League has officially announced that they will be revoking Red's Champion title following a report from the Kanto Region Anti-rare candy Presidium (KRAP) that his Pokémon were fed Rare Candies prior to his league challenge. As a result, his Hall of Fame records from 1995 to 2004 have been erased.

"Pokémon Trainer Red has no place in Pokémon battling and deserves to be forgotten." said Professor Yew, president of the governing body.

"..." said Trainer Red as he confessed to Interviewer Gabby on Hoenn TV last Thursday.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on January 31, 2013, 08:37:18 AM
best
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on January 31, 2013, 08:41:17 AM
Quote from: Shadoninja on January 31, 2013, 08:32:44 AM
Pokémon Trainer Red stripped of all Pokemon League titles; evidence of Rare Candy use.

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/36661985/Pictars/Red%20Armstrong.png)

The Pokémon League has officially announced that they will be revoking Red's Champion title following a report from the Kanto Region Anti-rare candy Presidium (KRAP) that his Pokémon were fed Rare Candies prior to his league challenge. As a result, his Hall of Fame records from 1995 to 2004 have been erased.

"Pokémon Trainer Red has no place in Pokémon battling and deserves to be forgotten." said Professor Yew, president of the governing body.

"..." said Trainer Red as he confessed to Interviewer Gabby on Hoenn TV last Thursday.

XDDDDDDDDD
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: the_last_sheikah on January 31, 2013, 12:16:29 PM
Heheheh, that's awesome.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 31, 2013, 12:18:39 PM
Red can't even train his Pokemon to level 100 in two years on Mt. Silver... I guess that means that Red did the Missingno. glitch a lot? :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on January 31, 2013, 12:23:55 PM
^Wasn't funny. Sorry.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on January 31, 2013, 12:31:31 PM
Still not seeing that apparent sense of humor
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on January 31, 2013, 12:42:56 PM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on January 31, 2013, 12:18:39 PMRed can't even train his Pokemon to level 100 in two years on Mt. Silver... I guess that means that Red did the Missingno. glitch a lot? :P
(totally forgot I was going to reference missingno in some way. I can't remember what my original idea was but here's one I just came up with)
Suspect Wanted for Drug Duplication and Distributing
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdl.dropbox.com%2Fu%2F36661985%2FPictars%2Fmissingno.png&hash=7072ed10cf4bb612d16a3c8a9cd13935a9a570e6)
Artist's Rendering

Kanto police are seeking a scientist, known on the street as "Ms. Ingno", accused of duplicating and distributing the illegal substance known as "Rare Candy". Ms. Ingno is a researcher at the Pokémon Lab on Cinnabar Island and has been working there for 10 years. She was previously an understudy of Professor Oak.

"I'm quite ashamed of my pupil. I can't believe she would do something like this" Professor Oak said when asked to comment.

Police are offering a 100,000 Pokédollar reward leading to the arrest of Ms. Ingno.


BREAKING NEWS: Kanto police seized a large shipment of Rare Candy on the coast of Cinnabar Island and have arrested 20 Trainers. Stay tuned as we follow this story for you.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on January 31, 2013, 01:08:07 PM
Guys, stop being mean. If someone does something minor to annoy you, it's best to just ignore it and not comment, unless it was offensive or something on a major scale.

In a perfect world, no one should hate each other on this forum. So let's try to be nice. K?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on February 01, 2013, 10:54:38 AM
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7023050752/hE2A4FC57/)
xD
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on February 02, 2013, 11:30:59 AM
I think we need a new poll.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on February 02, 2013, 12:02:10 PM
So do I
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on February 02, 2013, 12:30:17 PM
I can agree, but what should it be about?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on February 02, 2013, 12:44:06 PM
.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on February 02, 2013, 12:53:14 PM
OMG did u guise see the new starters

smugleaf is so stupid snakes dont gave arms
wotter is ugly as hell i bet bidoof nd jinx had a baby rofl
tehpig has the stupidest name ive ever heard
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on February 04, 2013, 10:56:16 AM
I prefer the japanese names Mijumaru, Pokabu and Tsutarja. I'll get used to the English names eventually, though
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on February 04, 2013, 11:23:25 AM
Quote from: Jub3r7 on February 04, 2013, 10:56:16 AMI prefer the japanese names Mijumaru, Pokabu and Tsutarja. I'll get used to the English names eventually, though
(I still sometimes call Volcarona "Ulgamoth" and Benga "Banjirō." :P)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on February 04, 2013, 01:24:31 PM
I've always called Samurott "Daikenki", and I still do :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on February 04, 2013, 01:58:16 PM
I call Audino "Tabunne" at times.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on February 04, 2013, 02:12:17 PM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on February 04, 2013, 11:23:25 AMBenga "Banjirō." :P)
Benga isnt an English pokemon :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on February 04, 2013, 02:34:06 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on February 04, 2013, 01:58:16 PMI call Audino "Tabunne" at times.
Yep.

Quote from: Bubbles7689 on February 04, 2013, 02:12:17 PMBenga isnt an English pokemon :P
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.bulbagarden.net%2Fupload%2Ff%2Ff1%2FBlack_2_White_2_Benga.png&hash=6ff582223a0f68fbf219c69e123ffd2657ebcc87)
He is Benga.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on February 04, 2013, 02:37:39 PM
Sometimes, I call Pikachu "Pikachu".
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on February 04, 2013, 02:38:15 PM
you should go see a doctor, that's pretty messed up
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on February 04, 2013, 03:00:22 PM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on February 04, 2013, 02:34:06 PM*pic*
He is Benga.
I dont know who that is XD I dont really know many names of the people, but I think thats Alder's son?
Title: Re: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on February 04, 2013, 03:04:32 PM
.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on February 04, 2013, 03:39:46 PM
Where in the game is he featured? 'Cause I've never seen him.

(This isn't Black/White 2 is it?)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on February 04, 2013, 03:44:14 PM
.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on February 04, 2013, 03:44:46 PM
I still need to finish up Black Tower...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on February 04, 2013, 03:45:12 PM
Quote from: Shadoninja on February 04, 2013, 03:44:14 PMBlack/White 2. He appears in the post-game after you beat Alder. Benga's the final trainer you face in Area 10 in Black Tower/White Treehollow.
That would explain why I haven't seen him yet.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on February 04, 2013, 03:45:30 PM
.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on February 04, 2013, 03:45:34 PM
Quote from: JDMEK5 on February 04, 2013, 03:39:46 PMWhere in the game is he featured? 'Cause I've never seen him.

(This isn't Black/White 2 is it?)
He's the final "boss trainer" of the Black Tower/White Treehollow in Black 2/White 2. After you beat him, you get a shiny Gible/Dratini.

Ninja'd
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on February 04, 2013, 03:48:38 PM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on February 04, 2013, 03:45:34 PMHe's the final "boss trainer" of the Black Tower/White Treehollow in Black 2/White 2. After you beat him, you get a shiny Gible/Dratini.
Seriously?! I'd better pick up my DS again!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on February 04, 2013, 03:48:59 PM
Quote from: Shadoninja on February 04, 2013, 03:45:30 PMGreat place for leveling up.

I think I'm a little underleveled at this point, but I might as well go back since my team mostly wrecks shit.
Title: Re: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on February 04, 2013, 03:58:04 PM
.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on February 04, 2013, 03:59:02 PM
I can't remember, but I'm in the low 60's and I've gone through 5 or so levels.
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on February 04, 2013, 05:14:01 PM
It's really hard to be underleveled in the Black Tower / White Treehollow. You only fight as many trainers as you'd like since you can encounter a trainer then soft reset if it's not the gate trainer. Plus if you're struggling to beat them, you can just go back one area and the trainers there are the perfect levels to grind with.

I actually ended up fighting every trainer in every area so I was way over-leveled. It was kind of a waste of time looking back...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on February 05, 2013, 09:16:00 AM
[Redacted]
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on February 05, 2013, 09:28:05 AM
You Americans are such lucky-ass bitches. :(

Damn I want a Meloetta.
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on February 05, 2013, 01:43:30 PM
Only 3 attacks. Huh.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on February 06, 2013, 02:29:55 PM
Aaaahhh!! My Zekrom disappeared!!! My level 100 Zekrom, Kyurem, Cobalion, among others just flat out disappeared off my white version!
What happened?!
 :'(
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on February 06, 2013, 02:31:20 PM
Quote from: JDMEK5 on February 06, 2013, 02:29:55 PMAaaahhh!! My Zekrom disappeared!!! My level 100 Zekrom, Kyurem, Cobalion, among others just flat out disappeared off my white version!
What happened?!
 :'(
If you've been using a cheating device, then that's probably what happened (I had it happen in Emerald...). If not, then I don't know. O_O
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on February 06, 2013, 02:33:27 PM
[Redacted]
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on February 06, 2013, 02:41:07 PM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on February 06, 2013, 02:31:20 PMIf you've been using a cheating device, then that's probably what happened (I had it happen in Emerald...). If not, then I don't know. O_O
No cheating devices. So that can't be it.
Quote from: Shadoninja on February 06, 2013, 02:33:27 PMHey guys I just found a level 100 Zekrom, Kyurem, and Cobalion on my game weeeeee.
Pleeze can I hazzem back?

But seriously, has this happened to any of you before? Any idea as to what caused it?
(As far as I know, it's impossible to leave 3+ pokémon at the daycare)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on February 06, 2013, 02:55:26 PM
[Redacted]
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on February 06, 2013, 03:02:44 PM
Quote from: Shadoninja on February 06, 2013, 02:55:26 PMUnless you're playing Firered/Leafgreen.
Shado, can I ask you a question? Am I referring to FireRed/LeafGreen?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on February 06, 2013, 03:04:16 PM
Yes
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on February 06, 2013, 03:08:15 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on February 06, 2013, 03:04:16 PMYes
*Ahem* Shado, am I referring to FireRed/LeafGreen?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: EFitTrainr on February 06, 2013, 03:09:37 PM
Yes
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on February 06, 2013, 03:13:53 PM
*Slaps forehead*

Mutters to self: "I'm trapped in a world full of idiots.."
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on February 06, 2013, 03:17:57 PM
I love all the idiots here
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on February 06, 2013, 03:51:52 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on February 06, 2013, 03:17:57 PMI love all the idiots here
;D that's why i love this community.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on February 06, 2013, 07:59:13 PM
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Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on February 08, 2013, 03:30:32 PM
I came up with a great idea for a new move:
Cosmic Destruction
Cosmic Destruction

Generates the Apocalypse Shower "weather condition" for three turns. Any other weather conditions will be cleared when this move is used. All Pokemon that are not of the Dragon, Psychic, or Dark type or have the abilities Magic Guard, Overcoat, or "Crash Course" will lose 1/8 of their health at the end of every turn. All Dragon-type moves will have their power increased by 1.5x.
Pokemon with the ability "Crash Course" are guarenteed a KO hit on any attacking move, at the cost of 100% health recoil.
[close]

Seems a bit overpowered, but still... it would be fun, wouldn't it!? :P
:D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on February 08, 2013, 03:33:24 PM
the ability seems WAY too overpowered... the weather condition is interesting, though.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on February 08, 2013, 03:36:12 PM
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Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on February 08, 2013, 03:41:55 PM
I never saw the point of the Choice Scarf.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on February 08, 2013, 03:53:00 PM
Quote from: Yugi on February 08, 2013, 03:41:55 PMI never saw the point of the Choice Scarf.
and thus is y ur a n00b
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on February 10, 2013, 10:53:35 PM
When I start playing Black/White 2. This might be my team.

Oshawatt line
Riolu line
Magnemite line
Volcarona line
Sewaddle line
Sandile line

Good/bad?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on February 10, 2013, 11:16:45 PM
I like it.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on February 11, 2013, 04:02:22 AM
Quote from: Yugi on February 10, 2013, 10:53:35 PMWhen I start playing Black/White 2. This might be my team.

Oshawatt line
Riolu line
Magnemite line
Volcarona line
Sewaddle line
Sandile line

Good/bad?

Doesn't cover a ton of weaknesses. It's okay I guess, fairly typical.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on February 11, 2013, 04:51:30 AM
So here was my team when I played through Black 2.

Rotom-W
Scrafty
Slowbro
and
Hoothoot(fly slave)

Kicked ass and still does
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on February 11, 2013, 12:15:18 PM
Quote from: Yugi on February 10, 2013, 10:53:35 PMWhen I start playing Black/White 2. This might be my team.

Oshawatt line
Riolu line
Magnemite line
Volcarona line
Sewaddle line
Sandile line

Good/bad?
The Riolu and Oshawatt, when used together, should be able to wipe the entirety of Team Plasma away. Lucario to take care of the Steel or Dark types, and Samurott to take care of everything else!! :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on February 11, 2013, 01:54:10 PM
Quote from: Yugi on February 10, 2013, 10:53:35 PMWhen I start playing Black/White 2. This might be my team.

Oshawatt line
Riolu line
Magnemite line
Volcarona line
Sewaddle line
Sandile line

Good/bad?

Can't say it's good. It's... alright at best. Anyways it's an in-game team so it really doesn't matter.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on February 11, 2013, 01:56:46 PM
I'd said it's good just because it has Magnemite in it and I freaking love Magnemite  :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on February 11, 2013, 02:11:03 PM
that's exactly why I said I like it :3 Magnemite is badass
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DonValentino on February 11, 2013, 02:23:45 PM
Me has a Magnezone! Me wants cookiez!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on February 13, 2013, 02:19:26 AM
I was browsing through a Fakemon collection at 2 AM, because I am a partially crazy person, and I found this:
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2F354e2c33f9fe2ed1afc783bbdf0bade8%2Ftumblr_mf8frxkJWP1rw7u8ro1_500.jpg&hash=37c9f8641c9ace670207d050e9ab26df64b7bf0f)
I cannot sleep tonight. Though it is rather cool, and it inspires me!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DonValentino on February 13, 2013, 04:00:51 AM
I prefer that 100 times more than Ninfia... :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on February 13, 2013, 04:02:18 AM
It's cool but....it's a little scary for Pokemon... O_o
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on February 13, 2013, 05:30:23 AM
4x weak to ground, slow looking fakemon= fail
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on February 13, 2013, 06:15:21 AM
[Redacted]
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on February 13, 2013, 06:38:49 AM
Is it really worth it? I'm lazy and I don't feel like getting it, but if you say it's awesome then I guess I could try it out.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on February 13, 2013, 06:40:45 AM
Yeah it's cool.

Limited though.
Title: Re: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Shadoninja on February 13, 2013, 06:42:13 AM
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Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on February 13, 2013, 06:45:12 AM
You're right, why not. I'll get it when I get back home then.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on February 15, 2013, 05:11:30 PM
Ok, so I have an interesting idea for a Pokemon...
Taloraptor
Taloraptor: Dark/Ice - Frozen Raptor Pokemon
Base Stats:
HP: 100
Atk: 100
Def: 100
SpA: 100
SpD: 100
Spe: 100
(standard fare for Pokemon of its category)

Ability: Bide Rush; for every opponent it moves after, its attack is raised one stage.
Signature Move: Claw Charge (Dark type-special); if it moves before the opponent, it adds the move's power to this attack's power.
[close]

As you can see, its ability and signature move completely contradict; if one activates, the other cannot be used, and visa-versa. Thus, I imagine two possible competitive strategies for Taloraptor. For both, at best, it would like to have some sort of hail support from Abomasnow, although it is in a lower tier than OU/Uber, so it might not be helpful or smart to have aside from the purpose of adding hail to the battlefield.

Set 1; Ability "Leecher," Slow and Bulky
Item: Lagging Tail (??)
Ability: Bide Rush
Nature: Brave

EVs: 128 HP / 252 Atk / 128 Def (or SpD)

Moves:
~ Night Slash
~ Crunch
~ Dragon Tail
~ Close Combat

If Taloraptor survives an attack, it can turn around and decimate its opponent with Night Slash or Crunch; a rather destructive attack, in combination with the ability, would be Dragon Tail. Due to this relatively wide range, anything not strong enough to OHKO it will pay the price.
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Set 2; Fast and Hard Special Striker
Item: ??
Ability: Speed Boost (would this be a good idea ._.)
Nature: Jolly or Adamant

EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

Moves:
~ Claw Charge
~ Dragon Pulse
~ Ice Beam
~ Protect

This provides a counter for Latios/Latios, Dragon-types, and even Psychic types. If Claw Charge is used on a Terrakion using Close Combat, after a speed boost, it would, despite the resistance, reach 200 base power (assuming Claw Charge's base power was 80).
[close]

I am terribly sorry if you feel as if I am intruding on this thread, but I am interested in the limits and possibilities of competitive battling...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on February 15, 2013, 05:18:09 PM
YESI FINALLY HAVE BLACK/WHITE WITHOUT THE ANTI PIRACY MEASURES.

YESYEYS
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on February 16, 2013, 02:43:55 AM
Please, somebody hit me with a wet noodle. I can't stop coming up with new Fakemon ideas.

A rubber hose might be better
Here's the current new lineup:
  • Alternate "la brea" Grimer evolution (based on the concept I found on the Internet and posted here); trade when holding Fossil Bit
  • Alternate "tribal" Koffing evolution; trade when holding Fossil Bit
  • Single staged Steel/Dragon "wire dragon"
  • Single staged Ghost/Dragon "coffin snake"
  • Single staged Grass/Ice (or Grass/Fire??) Potpourri Pokemon called Potpounin
  • Unown-like Dark/Psychic symbol Pokemon, Symbolen
[close]

Uruuughhh...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on February 16, 2013, 03:48:09 AM
Quote from: Shadoninja on February 13, 2013, 06:15:21 AMFake Marowak evolution.
I found a really cool one:
Skeldon
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffc01.deviantart.net%2Ffs70%2Fi%2F2010%2F256%2F8%2F8%2Fskeldon_evolution_of_marowak_by_lanceofdragon-d2yoloo.png&hash=c836617d82497da31e09577b970e1ba798b58f19)
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Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on February 16, 2013, 12:21:33 PM
Quote from: Jompa on February 16, 2013, 03:48:09 AMI found a really cool one:
Skeldon
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffc01.deviantart.net%2Ffs70%2Fi%2F2010%2F256%2F8%2F8%2Fskeldon_evolution_of_marowak_by_lanceofdragon-d2yoloo.png&hash=c836617d82497da31e09577b970e1ba798b58f19)
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Oh ho ho ho; I get it. -_o
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on February 16, 2013, 01:40:16 PM
I have just evolved my Timburr into Gurdurr in Pokemon Black and White 1.

Should I evolve it into Conkeldurr now? Or wait a bit.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on February 16, 2013, 02:25:18 PM
Put it this way: Do you really have any reasons not to?

Gurdurr and Conkeldurr grow just as fast (experience-wise). They learn the same moves at the same levels. All of Conkeldurr's stats are higher than Gurdurr's. Unless you really, really need a bulky Fight-type (Gurdurr holding Eviolite), you have no reason not to evolve it.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on February 16, 2013, 03:27:54 PM
Eh sometimes with those I keep it at stage 2 for a while just so it blends better with my other "teenage" Pokemon.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on February 17, 2013, 12:00:02 AM
Okay so when I was gone, I beat

TheFlamingSpade in a Pokemon match!!! :D

I really hope he would upload that game into YouTube.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on February 17, 2013, 12:33:55 AM
Omg. I love that guy.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on February 17, 2013, 11:02:17 AM
I hope he does, I'd live to watch it! :)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on February 17, 2013, 11:05:35 AM
You wouldn't live otherwise? D:
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on February 17, 2013, 11:38:09 AM
Exactly :3
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on February 21, 2013, 08:17:05 PM
I suddenly have an idea for an ability (Smogon format, just because :P).

Spoiler
Crasher
Description
Cancels out all abilities of Pokemon currently on the field (minus Crasher itself, for fear of a paradox); maintains effect until affected Pokemon switch out.
Effects already "finalized" by abilities (such as weather or stat boosts brought on by abilities) are not cancelled, however.

Competitive Use
In singles, this ability could be used to negate the ability of Pokemon such as Politoed, Breloom, Gliscor, and Shedinja, as well as other abilities such as Prankster and Moxie; the uses are nearly endless.
In Ubers, this ability could be used to prevent weather before it occurs, or in some cases, prevent Rayquaza from negating its effects, etc.
In doubles, however, its effect is not limited to merely opposing Pokemon: it can be used on Pokemon such as Slaking and Regigigas in order to provide their full bulk and power, un-hindered by their abilities, while still crippling an unprepared opponent. A sudden switch-in can cause the opponent to damage themselves (such as when Politoed uses Surf while Gastrodon is out).

Found Normally
Symbolen - Dark/Psychic

Found in Dream World
Unown - Psychic
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It seems like something that could easily be banned within a short time... :P Yet, the potential!!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on February 23, 2013, 01:09:22 PM
Umm... Mold Breaker?

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Mold_Breaker

As far as I can understand, it does exactly what you're describing.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on February 23, 2013, 02:42:48 PM
Quote from: Cobraroll on February 23, 2013, 01:09:22 PMUmm... Mold Breaker?

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Mold_Breaker

As far as I can understand, it does exactly what you're describing.
Mold Breaker only stops certain abilities, such as Volt Absorb, Heatproof, and other abilities that hinder moves used by the Mold Breaker user.
My idea gets rid of ALL abilities and cancels out their effect (unless, for example, the weather has been previously placed before the Pokemon is sent out) regardless of whether it affects the Pokemon with the ability or not.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on February 23, 2013, 03:35:58 PM
Solution: gen II
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on February 23, 2013, 03:38:55 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on February 23, 2013, 03:35:58 PMSolution: gen II
Ah ha ha. That's not what I'm talking about though... :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on February 23, 2013, 03:46:48 PM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on February 23, 2013, 02:42:48 PMMold Breaker only stops certain abilities, such as Volt Absorb, Heatproof, and other abilities that hinder moves used by the Mold Breaker user.
My idea gets rid of ALL abilities and cancels out their effect (unless, for example, the weather has been previously placed before the Pokemon is sent out) regardless of whether it affects the Pokemon with the ability or not.

Practically, what would the difference be? Mold Breaker nullifies all relevant in-battle abilities anyway, apart from those activating on the switch-in (Intimidate, for instance). I don't really see Volbeat crying over losing Illuminate, or Blissey's Natural Cure not working while it's in battle (after all, the ability only takes effect after you switch out).

Or, well, perhaps nullfying Truant or Slow Start in Doubles could have some interesting effects. And it appears that Mold Breaker doesn't stop Prankster, Pressure or Guts.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on February 23, 2013, 04:28:51 PM
Quote from: Cobraroll on February 23, 2013, 03:46:48 PMPractically, what would the difference be? Mold Breaker nullifies all relevant in-battle abilities anyway, apart from those activating on the switch-in (Intimidate, for instance). I don't really see Volbeat crying over losing Illuminate, or Blissey's Natural Cure not working while it's in battle (after all, the ability only takes effect after you switch out).

Or, well, perhaps nullfying Truant or Slow Start in Doubles could have some interesting effects. And it appears that Mold Breaker doesn't stop Prankster, Pressure or Guts.
As I mentioned, Shedinja would become very useless if the opponent used a Pokemon with Crasher (thinking of a new name for it :P); Pokemon like Gliscor and Breloom that use Toxic Heal (or Pokemon with Guts) would be damaged by their held items instead of healed (or boosted, in the case of Guts), and, if sent as a lead, might be able to stop weather by Politoed/Ninetales/Kyogre/Groundon/Tyranitar.
Pokemon with Moxie would be less dangerous; Arceus would be unable to use Multitype, which would automatically revert it to normal form.

In Hackmons (always thinking outside of the box, I am ;)), the ability might be put on something like Deoxys-S or a wall (with a Lum Berry, obviously) to get the upper hand over opponents early in the battle and surprise them.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on March 01, 2013, 03:19:57 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but with Genesect's appearance in this (http://www.serebii.net/movies/genesect/), I think that means that every Generation 5 Pokemon has FINALLY appeared in the anime. Yay!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on March 02, 2013, 07:52:40 AM
I was really disappointed with the Keldeo movie...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on March 02, 2013, 08:39:32 AM
Quote from: JDMEK5 on March 02, 2013, 07:52:40 AMI was really disappointed with the Keldeo movie...
ME TOOOOOO OMFG.

All it was was Keldeo being a little bitch and Kyurem playing tag with it. Then he doesn't even beat him at the end, he just damages him "enough." I hope the next movie is better than just this and actually has a decent plot....
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on March 02, 2013, 12:29:40 PM
I'm getting sick of this friendship overcomes everything shit.

Actually, I already have.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on March 02, 2013, 12:57:14 PM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on March 02, 2013, 12:29:40 PMI'm getting sick of this friendship overcomes everything shit.
No. Kidding. I hear waaayyy too much of that kind of stuff these days.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: EFitTrainr on March 02, 2013, 09:24:23 PM
But... but... Friendship is Magic!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on March 02, 2013, 09:25:23 PM
Yeah come on! It is Magic!
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on March 02, 2013, 09:43:45 PM
It's a show aimed at kids. It's not going to change anytime soon.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on March 02, 2013, 09:54:57 PM
But back to Pokemon, I finally picked up Black 2 again and am tackling Black Tower.

Man, my Flygon's a beast.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: EFitTrainr on March 02, 2013, 10:45:06 PM
You know which movie is kind of dark? The first one.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on March 02, 2013, 10:46:08 PM
Considering Ash pretty much dies and pokemon almost kill each other, yeah.

In the Japanese version, Mew wants the clones gone. Like, gone gone. Mew doesn't like the clones because they aren't real and wants to kill them off.

Cute and scary. Damn.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: EFitTrainr on March 02, 2013, 10:47:27 PM
I'm watching it right now.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on March 03, 2013, 02:23:02 AM
found something
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BEZvpY8CYAAnCFi.jpg:large)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on March 03, 2013, 02:36:52 AM
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on March 03, 2013, 02:23:02 AMfound something
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BEZvpY8CYAAnCFi.jpg:large)
If that's fake, FSM, I'll... hmmm... I shouldn't blame you.

A lot of these sound a lot like my Fakemon (Bug/Dark, Bug/Dragon, Psychic/Rock, Ice/Dark, to be specific, as well as Tyrroi :P), as well as some more "typical" sounding ones (even a few whose types resemble those from Smogon's CAP project). If this is true, though, the Dark/Electric might be the pseudo-legendary, which would be rather epic.

Of course, though, although we're excited, we should wait for further confirmed information to fully believe this.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on March 03, 2013, 06:55:35 AM
Will you please stop saying they "sound like your fakemon."

This seems...fairly in-depth for something that's fake. Maybe it's real, we'll have to see if those Pokemon are announced at March 15. I like the ego, id, and superego references toward the end of the list.

Hmm assuming it is real, there are some interesting things hinting at new evolutions:
"Eyedol" is most likely a Claydol evolution; there's its name as well as its Ground/Psychic typing.
"Sabullion" might be Sableye's evolution? Same typing and similar name.
"Throhem" and "Sawkem?" Really?
"Snomanitan," hmm.
"Fantalis" is Psychic/Ice like Jynx, and she hasn't received a third evolution like her counterparts Electabuzz and Magmar.
"Mirrong" ends in "ong" and is Steel/Psychic like Bronzor and Bronzong.
"Koalossus"... Torkoal, anyone?
It would appear that in addition to "Bugglish" Pinsir receives "Scimincer" as an evolution or pre-evolution.
"Houndoomed"....wow.
"Lumscient" may be an evolution of Lumineon.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on March 03, 2013, 06:56:28 AM
It's obviously fake.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on March 03, 2013, 06:59:17 AM
Yeah that was my original assumption, but some things about it definitely make sense. Every other even-numbered region seems to include about 100 Pokemon. And who would go to the trouble of making up all these ridiculous names @_@. But yeah I agree, it's most likely fake. Still fun to speculate though, and one of these was leaked before BW's release that turned out to be real.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on March 03, 2013, 08:47:16 AM
"A coworker managed to get these for me..."

Really?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on March 03, 2013, 09:00:36 AM
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on March 03, 2013, 08:47:16 AM"A coworker managed to get these for me..."

Really?

Yeah, that's the red flag there. Flybyn'yte? REALLY? THAT'S A RUSH SONG COME ON THAT'S SO OBVIOUS IT'S FAKE
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on March 03, 2013, 09:06:18 AM
^that was an expression long before it was a song? Lol
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on March 03, 2013, 09:37:35 AM
....I didn't know that >_>
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on March 03, 2013, 12:48:53 PM
Eyedol is the final boss of Killer Instinct. Clearly either reference or fake.

And I think fake. Pokemon has been known for some bad puns, but some in those list just seem too terrible to be real.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on March 03, 2013, 12:55:49 PM
Not to mention the majority seems to be pre-evolutions or evolutions of previous generations, and also that Xerneas is Rock?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Dudeman on March 03, 2013, 12:57:21 PM
I think it's important to note that Sylveon is listed here as Normal type. I'm pretty sure Gamefreak wouldn't throw away that cool design as a Normal type. I say it's fake.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on March 03, 2013, 12:59:25 PM
That, and only 93 new Pokemon? That would seriously disappoint me if this gen had less than 100.  :(
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on March 03, 2013, 01:05:02 PM
I'm pretty sure gen 6 is supposed to bring 100+ new pokemon, anyway.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on March 03, 2013, 01:19:15 PM
I'M NOT MAKING ANY ACCUSATIONS BECAUSE I HAVE TOO MUCH FAITH IN EVERYTHING.

Anything's possible ::)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on March 03, 2013, 01:43:14 PM
'dogsnout'

nope
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on March 03, 2013, 01:46:16 PM
LOL

Some of these names are terrible. I hope they're made up.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on March 03, 2013, 01:49:48 PM
I'm pretty sure the whole list is fake...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: fabbemannen on March 03, 2013, 02:07:09 PM
It's 4chan, randomness is to be expected
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on March 04, 2013, 05:54:10 PM
Evil Plans
  • Team Rocket - Capture all the powerful Pokémon and dominate the world
  • Team Magma - Capture Groudon to expand the continents and dominate the world
  • Team Aqua - Capture Kyogre to expand the oceans and dominate the world
  • Team Galactic - Create a new dimension to dominate this one
  • Team Plasma - FREE ALL THE POKEMON!!!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on March 04, 2013, 06:43:56 PM
...well, Ghetsis then was like "lol that was fake i wanted to rule the world anyway" so
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on March 04, 2013, 06:45:16 PM
I love Ghetsis so much
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on March 04, 2013, 06:59:03 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on March 04, 2013, 06:43:56 PM...well, Ghetsis then was like "lol that was fake i wanted to rule the world anyway" so
Yeah, but how does "freeing all the pokémon" help them him rule the world?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on March 04, 2013, 07:01:09 PM
...so he still has HIS pokemon, and the trainers don't, so he can rule over everyone?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on March 04, 2013, 07:28:28 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on March 04, 2013, 06:45:16 PMI love Ghetsis so much
Cyrus was insane in his own way (esentially wanting to destroy the world and build another one just for himself), but Ghetsis was so utterly twisted and sadistic (N alone is proof of this).
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on March 04, 2013, 07:32:11 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on March 04, 2013, 07:01:09 PM...so he still has HIS pokemon, and the trainers don't, so he can rule over everyone?
Maybe.... But do you think Ghetsis' pokémon would win against the world? (I'm talking the world's militia here)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on March 04, 2013, 07:35:24 PM
Quote from: JDMEK5 on March 04, 2013, 07:32:11 PMMaybe.... But do you think Ghetsis' pokémon would win against the world? (I'm talking the world's militia here)
With Reshiram/Zekrom/Kyurem on his side, yes. :P

Unless the Creation and Weather trios teamed up.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on March 04, 2013, 07:36:50 PM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on March 04, 2013, 07:35:24 PMWith Reshiram/Zekrom/Kyurem on his side, yes. :P

Unless the Creation and Weather trios teamed up.
Good point. Yeah, who knows? Maybe the legendary pokémon of all the other regions might team up against him and his legendary pokémon of Unova...
That would make one sick movie.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on March 04, 2013, 07:43:31 PM
Quote from: JDMEK5 on March 04, 2013, 07:36:50 PMGood point. Yeah, who knows? Maybe the legendary pokémon of all the other regions might team up against him and his legendary pokémon of Unova...
That would make one sick movie.
Maybe Ghetsis would somehow be able to fuse Reshiram, Zekrom, and Kyurem... I can see the movie-potential!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on March 04, 2013, 07:56:06 PM
...that would be one good pokemon movie. But to be pulled off well, it'd have to be pretty dark since it'd be a "take over the world scheme"

But then again, I'm a sucker for grimdark in the pokeverse. Whoops.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on March 05, 2013, 08:04:51 AM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on March 04, 2013, 07:43:31 PMMaybe Ghetsis would somehow be able to fuse Reshiram, Zekrom, and Kyurem... I can see the movie-potential!
that sounds like black and white 2 to me
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on March 05, 2013, 10:29:46 AM
I don't know about fusing all three... I mean, just fusing two seemed like it was pushing the limits of overdoing a pokémon...
But if the three were under Ghetsis' control and he was trying to take over the world, and all the legendary pokémon of all the other regions joined forces against him....
That's what I want to see.
And not just a squat little 2-hour movie, I'm talking at least a trilogy.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on March 11, 2013, 08:36:58 PM
I've had a revelation!!

They need to make a book about Pokémon in the fashion of Hyrule Historia: a book detailing the entire Pokémon World, the history of the Pokemon universe, and idk...what else might go in there? A pokedex alone would be bigger than Hyrule Historia...there is so much information to be given on pokemon, they might have to release numerous volumes!

Would you buy something like that??
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on March 11, 2013, 08:38:06 PM
Probably not numerous volumes, but if they make it into a $20 book then YES

The problem is it would quickly become outdated since theyre constantly expanding, while Zelda releases a new game every 2-4 years
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on March 11, 2013, 08:41:51 PM
Quote from: Kman96 on March 11, 2013, 08:36:58 PMI've had a revelation!!

They need to make a book about Pokémon in the fashion of Hyrule Historia: a book detailing the entire Pokémon World, the history of the Pokemon universe, and idk...what else might go in there? A pokedex alone would be bigger than Hyrule Historia...there is so much information to be given on pokemon, they might have to release numerous volumes!

Would you buy something like that??

I was talking about this a while ago! I think a Pokemon encyclopedia might work! There's probably a lot of beta art and concept stuff we never saw, and we can see their inspirations for areas, thoughts, the myths... it'd work well if they pulled it off right.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on March 11, 2013, 08:57:21 PM
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on March 11, 2013, 08:38:06 PMThe problem is it would quickly become outdated since theyre constantly expanding, while Zelda releases a new game every 2-4 years
I thought about this, but I also thought that perhaps they might do something alike this if perhaps (and I hope it never happens) they end the series...That way, there wouldn't be any information to leave out!

The process of making it would take an extremely long time, and yes, just like Hyrule Historia, the book will become outdated, but the fanbase is so huge, I think Game Freak/Nintendo owes it to themselves to make such a thing!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on March 11, 2013, 10:32:03 PM
Solution: Make a book about each region, and the Pokemon in it.

If they release a new game, make a new book! :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on March 11, 2013, 10:40:43 PM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on March 11, 2013, 10:32:03 PMSolution: Make a book about each region, and the Pokemon in it.

If they release a new game, make a new book! :P
That's called a strategy guide, my friend.

I'm talking about one that encompasses the whole SERIES!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on March 12, 2013, 07:47:58 AM
1. Print all da pages in bulbapedia
2. Make a book out of them
3. ???
4. Profit
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on March 12, 2013, 02:42:05 PM
Oh come on... A book on the history of pokemon would be awesome if pulled off well.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on March 12, 2013, 04:10:54 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on March 12, 2013, 02:42:05 PMOh come on... A book on the history of pokemon would be awesome if pulled off well.
Hyrule Historia of Pokémon.

Speaking of guides...

I was making a pokédex on Wordpad a long time ago that had it all.
A complete listing of all possible moves, all possible stats, all possible abilities, types, forms, sprites, general information, japanese name, evolution chain, species, height (metric and imperial), weight (metric and imperial), pokédex number for all regions, catch rate, steps to hatch, base happiness, exp at level 100, egg group(s), gender ratio, effort values for K.O., everything.
An average of 12.5 pages per entry.
I completed the first 5 entries. (Bulbasaur to Charmeleon)
A total file size of 45.3MB.
Here it is if you want to see it. (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/93589150/National%20Pok%C3%A9dex.rtf)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on March 12, 2013, 05:23:46 PM
Fun Fact:
Joey's Rattata is actually top percentage. It's IV's, EV's and stats are far higher than normal Rattata.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on March 12, 2013, 05:25:07 PM
Is it nerdy if I knew that already?

._.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on March 12, 2013, 06:43:41 PM
I knew that already too.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on March 12, 2013, 11:01:11 PM
I caught N's Boldore in Black 2 tonight!

Also, the other night I caught Volcarona, and last week I found myself a nice Therian forme Tornadus! I think he'll be my main flying type for this version.

Yay, Pokémon! :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on March 13, 2013, 02:45:32 AM
N's Pokemon are like God's gift to breeding, because they have 30 IVs in each stat.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on March 13, 2013, 01:20:10 PM
Quote from: Kman96 on March 12, 2013, 11:01:11 PMlast week I found myself a nice Therian forme Tornadus!

Is there a way to get that without the Dream Radar?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on March 13, 2013, 01:24:18 PM
Quote from: spitllama on March 13, 2013, 01:20:10 PMIs there a way to get that without the Dream Radar?
You can't capture Therian Formes from anywhere but Dream Radar.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on March 13, 2013, 01:29:45 PM
dat's so dum
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on March 13, 2013, 01:32:45 PM
But you can trade a Therian Forme Landorus and go get the Reveal Glass and use it to transform your regular Kamis to their respective Therian Forme.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on March 13, 2013, 03:45:12 PM
Quote from: Yugi on March 12, 2013, 05:23:46 PMFun Fact:
Joey's Rattata is actually top percentage. It's IV's, EV's and stats are far higher than normal Rattata.

Quote from: FSM-Reapr on March 12, 2013, 05:25:07 PMIs it nerdy if I knew that already?

._.

FALSE. It was disproved as a rumour.
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Joey

Unfortunately, there is nothing special about Joey's Rattata as far as the datas are concerned.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on March 13, 2013, 03:47:32 PM
Aw. Darn.

It's top percentage in his heart...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on March 13, 2013, 03:53:15 PM
I remember reading something from somewhere

-FSM, 2013
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on March 14, 2013, 12:33:00 PM
O_O

I think I've made a terrible mistake.

Last night (at 2:00 AM, mind you), I was creating a page for Betledye - Thoraxun, because I *obviously* had nothing better to do. ::)
I had given them, as part of their movesets, Swords Dance. That's a completely logical decision, seeing as the evolved form has 120 base attack, and many other Pokemon in this stat range have it.
Since it also has 120 base special attack, I decided to give it a Sp. Atk. boosting move. Tail Glow.

I gave it Tail Glow. A base 120 special attacker that does not need to use Baton Pass to pass it out to a stronger Pokemon.
WHAT HAVE I DONE!?!? :'(
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on March 14, 2013, 02:44:46 PM
Um. I'm pretty sure you made a fakemon uber. But since it's a fakemon you're overreacting.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on March 14, 2013, 03:27:08 PM
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on March 14, 2013, 02:44:46 PMUm. I'm pretty sure you made a fakemon uber. But since it's a fakemon you're overreacting.
I forgot all about Nasty Plot... '_- I suppose it is fine, though still a bit disturbing to think of at least for me... ._.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on March 14, 2013, 03:32:21 PM
Happy 3 year anniversary of HG/SS, guys!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on March 14, 2013, 03:47:22 PM
YAAAAYYY!! I love HG/SS!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on March 14, 2013, 04:52:53 PM
I got that on my birthday because it came out on my birthday~

Wow seems longer than three years.... Oh the nostalgia. I got the Lugia figure that came with it.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on March 14, 2013, 04:55:59 PM
I brought this game for my roommate to play. He just started about 3 days ago. There were just exclamations about all the nostalgia and "omg pokemon other than Pikachu follow you I have to catch them all now" and "I'm going to take the stairs instead of the elevator, for my pokewalker!" etc.

He might as well be 8 yrs. old again :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: EFitTrainr on March 15, 2013, 01:07:57 PM
I had so much fun when this game came out <3
I remember playing on my Pokewalker during standardized testing.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on March 15, 2013, 01:11:44 PM
Omg Pokewalker was an amazing invention. I hated that they left it out of Gen V.

When I was running, I always took longer breaks to play the rustling grass game.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on March 15, 2013, 01:18:24 PM
Quote from: shadowkirby on March 15, 2013, 01:07:57 PMI had so much fun when this game came out <3
I remember playing on my Pokewalker during standardized testing.
memories <3

Me and sk weren't as much friends back then as we are now, but we still got along pretty well when it came to Pokemon and such... ::)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Sir Dino on March 15, 2013, 02:48:38 PM
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on March 15, 2013, 01:11:44 PMOmg Pokewalker was an amazing invention. I hated that they left it out of Gen V.
true v.v
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on March 15, 2013, 03:10:22 PM
The Pokewalker was fantastic because I could walk around school and level up my pokemon...

HG/SS had so many amazing aesthetics added to it - hearing your footsteps on leaves/ground/stone, the sound of rushing water that drowned out the music as you got closer, your pokemon following you...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on March 15, 2013, 04:12:22 PM
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on March 03, 2013, 02:23:02 AMfound something
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BEZvpY8CYAAnCFi.jpg:large)
*cough*

I never believed it but I just want to rub it in :P

EDIT: Whoops, it says "around March 15th". Oh well
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on March 15, 2013, 04:15:54 PM
Coro Coro didn't give us any XY news anyway...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on March 15, 2013, 04:47:51 PM
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F2smpdQ9h.png&hash=e53691ed40b4c404f6f136d88251fb4d8d6146bd)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on March 15, 2013, 05:24:45 PM
I found this.

(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7140625408/hCCA144E1/)

wut.

pinsir and heracross pre-evolutions.

...still doesn't confirm anything, though...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on March 15, 2013, 05:30:20 PM
NO WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE PRE EVOS
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on March 16, 2013, 02:30:44 AM
Don't worry, it's a confirmed fake. Originally posted on Serebii forums, and got debunked there.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on March 17, 2013, 01:32:20 AM
Look at this:
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2F1fc460964e30eed2fda51066107fff2a%2Ftumblr_mjhcz1qTuc1s5h198o1_500.gif&hash=8f10355827a75645610b15be739156ccb127a7d2)

This is wonderful. @_@
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on March 17, 2013, 01:39:10 AM
It's just two dragon sprites on a mountainous background.

I don't see the wonderfulness.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on March 17, 2013, 07:33:51 AM
Yeah.... Not overtly special.
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on March 17, 2013, 11:37:37 AM
What's a good nature for a Meloetta-P? Ironically everyone on the internet says this form is superior, yet I haven't found any sets that utilize it. They're all aria.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on March 17, 2013, 12:11:03 PM
Actually I'd say the Aria Form would be better competitively than it's Pirouette form.

As always, it depends what set you're using. Mixed set would be the best imo.

Let me make a set that I'd use if I wanted to use Meloetta-P:

EVs: 252 Speed and the rest divided between Attack and Special Attack.
Nature: Naive
Item: Life Orb
-Relic Song
-Close Combat
-Psychic
-U-Turn

Basically a Hit&Run set. After a Pokemon who resists Close Combat comes out, I use U-Turn or Relic Song.

But here's Smogon's stuff:
Spoiler
Other Options

Thanks to Meloetta's diverse movepool, it has many options at its disposal. Relic Song is a very cool move that provides a lot of surprise factor, the ability to switch into its Pirouette forme, which is strong and speedy as well as sporting a Fighting-type, is very interesting. This allows Meloetta to utilize Close Combat to hurt its normal counters otherwise. With this, a mixed set of Relic Song, Close Combat, Psychic, and Thunderbolt, is very possible and can build up pressure with Spikes support, but this is generally inferior to Meloetta's other sets. However, if you really love keeping up offensive pressure, this set can perform well. That aside, Meloetta also has other offensive options such as Energy Ball, which can be used to hurt Swampert but is generally inferior to Grass Knot and Thunderbolt. It also has Thunder if you're running manual rain, but it's horribly inaccurate and is inferior to Thunderbolt in general. Return could be used if you're brave enough to use Pirouette forme Meloetta, but it doesn't provides decent coverage. Meloetta also has a decent physical movepool consisting of Zen Headbutt, Stone Edge, the elemental punches, and Shadow Claw, but you're better off using special sets. A specially defensive set with options such as Toxic, Thunder Wave, and Perish Song is possible, but it's outclassed by Snorlax, which has Whirlwind to phaze and recovery in Rest. Finally, Charge Beam is an option for troll factor, with Serene Grace raising its Special Attack boosting chance to 100%, but you're better off running Calm Mind for boosting.
[close]
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on March 17, 2013, 01:13:07 PM
Like FSM said, Meloetta-P isn't that great competitively. In fact, I'd never use it myself. I'd want a Timid or Modest Meloetta. Those two Natures are the ones you should go after for.

If you really, really want to use Meloetta-P, use a mixed set. Anything else is doomed to fail.

I'd probs use FSM's Meloetta-P set, but I'd replace U-Turn with T-bolt(/Thunder in rain teams for the 60% chance to paralyze) for the coverage.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on March 17, 2013, 06:31:21 PM
I've seen someone using a Meloetta-P with only Relic Song and Last Resort, and when used correctly you can actually sweep with it. =P But yeah, I agree with FSM and Waddle, Mixed Aria is probably better.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on March 17, 2013, 06:34:08 PM
Plus it is 20349823049238594740932480923849032x cuter than the Pirouette form
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on March 17, 2013, 07:38:09 PM
Hrm. That's too bad. Pirouette is kind of cool.

I just got a Timid one with 31 in speed, so I guess for the other one I'll go for FSM's set.


Thank you!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on March 17, 2013, 07:44:51 PM
Quote from: spitllama on March 17, 2013, 07:38:09 PMI just got a Timid one with 31 in speed
Holy crap that's a good Meloetta! You should try Specs set with that!

Also no problem.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on March 17, 2013, 11:07:04 PM
Why is everyone freaking out when they see a 31 IV 'mon
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on March 18, 2013, 05:12:21 AM
because i never get any
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on March 18, 2013, 07:43:47 AM
Well I'm not RNGing (not sure if that even works on gift pokes) and you can't use synchronize for event pokes... so it's a pretty big coincidence.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on March 18, 2013, 08:44:08 AM
You can RNG them, and you don't need Synchronize to get the nature you want.
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on March 18, 2013, 09:10:24 AM
Ok... Well I was just soft-resetting. So that's why it was exciting.

Do you pick the nature using rng as well?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on March 18, 2013, 10:23:58 AM
Haha yeah, it is a really good soft reset. I'm not saying you have a bad 'mon, it's just weird to me when people get all excited for a 31 IV stat. =P

And yeah, you can. Back in Gen IV I wanted a Timid Jirachi, so I RNG'd a Timid flawless one. You can pretty much get everything you want, and the fun part is that they're legit. I mean the only reason I do it is because I play in official tournaments, and you need those good IVs. Otherwise I wouldn't bother RNG'ing my 'mons.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on March 18, 2013, 01:17:22 PM
lol wth is RNGing?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on March 18, 2013, 01:25:50 PM
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on March 18, 2013, 01:17:22 PMlol wth is RNGing?
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pseudorandom_number_generation_in_Pok%C3%A9mon (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pseudorandom_number_generation_in_Pok%C3%A9mon)
D:
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on March 18, 2013, 01:51:56 PM
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on March 18, 2013, 01:17:22 PMlol wth is RNGing?

I'll answer your question with a simpler answer: RNG'ing is a legal way of obtaining flawless and shiny Pokemon ingame.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on March 18, 2013, 03:23:43 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on March 18, 2013, 01:51:56 PMI'll answer your question with a simpler answer: RNG'ing is a legal way of obtaining flawless and shiny Pokemon ingame.
Quote from: BulbapediaIn the Pokémon fandom, RNG abuse is slightly controversial. Proponents note that RNG abuse does not require a third-party device and that the Pokémon obtained through RNG abuse can be obtained through normal gameplay. In addition, Pokémon obtained through RNG abuse have been used at the Video Game Championships, an official tournament. However, some players believe that RNG abuse is cheating, as the action of picking a Pokémon's characteristics is similar to using a cheating device.

I say: "If you can do it, fine. You're just using your (legit) resources." :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on March 18, 2013, 07:53:23 PM
I sorta get it but not really... I mean, how does this help you manipulate anything?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on March 18, 2013, 08:47:19 PM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on March 18, 2013, 03:23:43 PMI say: "If you can do it, fine. You're just using your (legit) resources." :P

Haha yeah basically. The problem with competitive battling is that you're /forced/ to do it, otherwise you'll definitely lose against other players who do RNG.

Quote from: JDMEK5 on March 18, 2013, 07:53:23 PMI sorta get it but not really... I mean, how does this help you manipulate anything?

Hmm... it's kinda hard to explain, but I'll do my best.
Let's say you want to breed a Lucario. You want it to be Adamant with very good IVs, if possible you want all of its IVs to be 31. What do you do? You could soft reset, but it'd take forever. That's why you RNG.
To be able to RNG, you need to download the RNG Reporter, which you can find on Smogon.
The two concepts you need to understand when you RNG are these: Seeds and Frames.

To put it simply, every time you load your game, you load a certain seed. If you load your game at 12:04:10 am on July 4th 2013, you'll load a certain seed (Let's call it Seed 1). If you load your game at 12:04:11 am on July 4th 2013, you'll load a different seed (Let's call it Seed 2). RNG manipulation requires you to change your DS's date and time, because you have to hit your seed in order to get your desired Pokémon spread (like Adamant flawless Lucario). What about the frames then? The frames range from 1 to... whatever number you want to think about. Every frame set is different, and no seed has the same frame set.
So, basically: Seed 1 Frame 1 can be Jolly 2/14/31/28/4/29, while Seed 2 Frame 1 will be Sassy 5/19/27/19/31/30
What the RNG does is that it tells you what Seed you need to hit in order to get your desired spread, and on which frame it's located. If your desired spread is on Seed 4 Frame 13, then you need to make sure you load your game on Seed 4, and you need to hit your Frame. You need to make Frame advancements but that's another story.

So that's basically how it works. RNG'ing lets you hit your desired Seed and Frame so you can get flawless Pokémon with a good nature. You can also RNG the shininess of the Pokémon too. For example, when I breed a Scizor, I always decide not to get it shiny because green Scizor sucks. =P I know it sounds complicated, but RNG'ing isn't hard at all once you get the hang of it. There are a bunch of guides on Smogon if you guys ever want to learn how to RNG too.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on March 18, 2013, 09:08:39 PM
No offense to anyone, but I could really give a shit about these natures and IV's and shit.

Good lord, whatever happened to "LVL 100 CHARIZARD OMG BEAAAST!!!" that's how I play Pokemon. Level with experience and all that stuff. Is it really that much of a difference just to have one stupid number define how "good" or "strong" your Pokemon is??

I don't think so. Let's prevent pokeprejudice by standing against these dividing forces.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on March 18, 2013, 09:13:56 PM
Well if you're a casual player, natures don't mean anything to you... but to people who like competitive battling, yeah, it means a lot. It's not pokeprejudice. It's a preference in game play.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on March 18, 2013, 09:23:10 PM
^this.
I play the game casually. I couldn't care less about natures/IVs/EVs when I train my team so they can take on the Elite 4. I do care about all that stuff when I could potentially win money in a sanctioned Pokémon tournament. Both play styles are really different, but they're both really fun.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: November on March 19, 2013, 05:45:20 AM
Quote from: Kman96 on March 18, 2013, 09:08:39 PMNo offense to anyone, but I could really give a shit about these natures and IV's and shit.

Good lord, whatever happened to "LVL 100 CHARIZARD OMG BEAAAST!!!" that's how I play Pokemon. Level with experience and all that stuff. Is it really that much of a difference just to have one stupid number define how "good" or "strong" your Pokemon is??

I don't think so. Let's prevent pokeprejudice by standing against these dividing forces.

You can basically win in-game with any pokemon - they make it so that EVs and IVs don't matter at all. You can use your level 100 Charizard in casual play in general.

Competitive play is a different matter. They do make a big difference, and when you're going up against strategies and other EV and IV pokemon (that involve the strategies), you're gonna die if you don't level out the playing field ;p
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on March 21, 2013, 08:54:02 AM
So uh the last time I played OU competitively was back when HGSS just came out. I decided to make a team yesterday and holy crap, I'm rusty =P It's really different from VGC... and yeah, I still prefer the VGC metagame/playstyle although I guess singles are kinda fun.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on March 21, 2013, 08:55:50 AM
Roz we should totes play together someday

I so wish Showdown would have Multi Battles!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on March 21, 2013, 08:57:13 AM
Yeah we def should! I guess we can battle on Showdown someday
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on March 30, 2013, 04:55:08 PM
A new pokemon is gonna be revealed next week! Finally!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on March 30, 2013, 04:57:16 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on March 30, 2013, 04:55:08 PMA new pokemon is gonna be revealed next week! Finally!
And this time, it's official! :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on March 30, 2013, 08:38:12 PM
Yes can't wait!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: MoboMoga on March 31, 2013, 12:21:52 AM
I just want to hear a theme (preferably a city or town) from XY. :)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on March 31, 2013, 05:50:07 AM
No way. I'm not spoiling the music this time.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on March 31, 2013, 05:51:51 AM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on March 31, 2013, 05:50:07 AMNo way. I'm not spoiling the music this time.
The trailer music is the only music I'll listen until the game's out this time too.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on March 31, 2013, 10:55:34 AM
I dunno, I really want to hear how the music is, but I don't wanna spoil it either...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on March 31, 2013, 11:08:51 AM
The only thing I don't want to spoil is the Champion battle theme/Champion battle. Last year when I went to Canadian Nats some guy told me the entire story of B2W2 and... yeah that sucked.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on March 31, 2013, 11:33:02 AM
I hate having something spoiled for me, but when it comes to the music, I don't think I can hold myself back.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on April 03, 2013, 03:23:09 AM
Ooh, interesting news!!
Spoiler
RUMORED Mewtwo form, shown on Serebii:
Spoiler
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.serebii.net%2Fmewtwoform2th.jpg&hash=b11ef5619bfd3eff2962f099fcdaba4a646eb0fa)

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.serebii.net%2Fmewtwoformth.jpg&hash=a4766f51f154d3ec70a0a58d55caf6d343ca4b28)
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If it's real, I hope it's Mewthree. 8) If not, we can consider it a late April Fool's Joke. :P
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Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Clanker37 on April 03, 2013, 05:47:26 AM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on April 03, 2013, 03:23:09 AMOoh, interesting news!!
Spoiler
RUMORED Mewtwo form, shown on Serebii:
Spoiler
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.serebii.net%2Fmewtwoform2th.jpg&hash=b11ef5619bfd3eff2962f099fcdaba4a646eb0fa)

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.serebii.net%2Fmewtwoformth.jpg&hash=a4766f51f154d3ec70a0a58d55caf6d343ca4b28)
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If it's real, I hope it's Mewthree. 8) If not, we can consider it a late April Fool's Joke. :P
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Spoiler
Coolios
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Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on April 03, 2013, 05:49:52 AM
omfg
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on April 03, 2013, 01:23:11 PM
...I kinda hope that's fake.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on April 03, 2013, 01:27:50 PM
I know :/ I liked how they had episodes where they flashbacked to the original seasons but you can't just add another form like that. Not to mention it looks like a mix of someone from Dragonball Z and that cat thing from Madoka Magica
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on April 03, 2013, 01:41:24 PM
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on April 03, 2013, 01:27:50 PMI know :/ I liked how they had episodes where they flashbacked to the original seasons but you can't just add another form like that. Not to mention it looks like a mix of someone from Dragonball Z and that cat thing from Madoka Magica
Spoiler
That's why I hoped that it was Mewthree and not merely another form.
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Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on April 03, 2013, 04:12:13 PM
Is that the new Pokemon that was going to be revealed this week?
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on April 03, 2013, 04:28:07 PM
Gen 1 elitists will have a fit if there's a new form to the first ultimate pokemon.

Plus it looks dumb.
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on April 03, 2013, 09:05:01 PM
First of all, there's this.
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.tapatalk.com%2Fd%2F13%2F04%2F04%2Fy3egy6u3.jpg&hash=3d8204ca65d04c5ee243a46c55710d307ec9e9c3)
DROWZEE PREVO. I KNOW. WHAT.

AND THEN THERE'S THIS, WHICH IS EVEN WORSE:
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.tapatalk.com%2Fd%2F13%2F04%2F04%2F8anuzage.jpg&hash=de119a6f758a4b9c50e1dc1c240c3c057118948b)
THEY STOLE MY IDEA. JERKS.
/justkiddingitlooksnothinglikethatwhatsoever


Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: EFitTrainr on April 03, 2013, 09:05:47 PM
Oh my god
brb
dying
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on April 03, 2013, 09:36:38 PM
oh god that better be fake i don't want any new baby pokemon either! i want original pokemon for gen 6... minus a dunsparce evo...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on April 04, 2013, 05:38:30 AM
It's the cutest thing ever <333333333

No seriously, I'm not joking. I love it. Whether it's fake or not.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on April 04, 2013, 05:55:33 AM
I think it's disgusting. /prepares4hatemail

But more LC Pokemon coming and I'm happy because of that! :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on April 04, 2013, 06:55:35 AM
I think it is amazingly cute, but I don't get why they want to bring inn a baby Drowzee, seems stupid.
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on April 04, 2013, 08:24:26 AM
I don't understand the point of making more pre-evos. The only reason they exist is to be evolved. Nobody battles with them.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on April 04, 2013, 08:45:23 AM
Little Cup.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Clanker37 on April 04, 2013, 08:47:01 AM
Quote from: spitllama on April 04, 2013, 08:24:26 AMI don't understand the point of making more pre-evos. The only reason they exist is to be evolved. Nobody battles with them.
To take up space? To make super awesome Pokemon Cute? IDK.

I think it's a bit weird. :/ I don't like how they make baby Pokemon for Pokemon that already evolve at a low level. Like for Electivire and stuff it's cool because you have to trade them and Chansey's happiness, so that stuff makes sense. But relying evolution on something like happiness and then evolving two levels later is just stupid. Like Azurill, it evolves with happiness, but Marill evolves at level 18 and by the time it's happy enough to evolve, it's like level 16 + so Marill only has a short life of only 1 - 2 levels, and it's kinda pointless. :/

But then again, nobody who uses Azumarill really starts off with an Azurill. And I guess they lean more to the "Gotta Catch 'Em All!" part of the series rather than battles.

EDIT: Ninja'd
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on April 04, 2013, 11:41:37 AM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on April 04, 2013, 08:45:23 AMLittle Cup.

This is true
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on April 04, 2013, 11:50:59 AM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on April 04, 2013, 08:45:23 AMLittle Cup.
Drowzee is already in Little Cup??
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Cobraroll on April 05, 2013, 03:39:20 PM
That Drowzee pic is a confirmed fake. The in-game picture is the Pikachu from the trailer, with a new head badly 'shopped onto it.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on April 05, 2013, 03:59:24 PM
Who confirmed it?
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on April 15, 2013, 05:45:08 PM
Bah. Not a fan of Iris' champion battle theme. It keeps showing up on shuffle and never gets any less awful.

Will find on iTunes and delete later on.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on April 15, 2013, 05:54:29 PM
Except it's one of the best battle themes in Pokemon. That's okay you don't like it, but it's quite good and fitting for the character.
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on April 15, 2013, 05:57:42 PM
I think part of the reason I don't like it is it's very different from past champion themes. Didn't really evoke any excitement imo.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on April 15, 2013, 06:02:04 PM
I think it's just a different style. I like Alder's theme better overall.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on April 15, 2013, 06:06:01 PM
Iris' champion song is my favorite theme... it's so good.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on April 15, 2013, 06:14:23 PM
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on April 15, 2013, 06:18:58 PM
^The B2W2 remix is better.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on April 15, 2013, 08:46:26 PM
Spoiler
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.ifcdn.com%2Fimages%2F44686908bfce7b73bbf70f7694cdadb68b2ea30b_1.jpg&hash=a9ff7cd2426b30c33be448e4f0ef09e1bcdf0f20)
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Watch out for silly fish.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on April 15, 2013, 09:48:33 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on April 15, 2013, 06:18:58 PM^The B2W2 remix is better.
Agreed.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on April 17, 2013, 02:27:04 AM
Wait, I just realized something.

Charmander, according to the pokedex, will die if the flame on its tail goes out, yet it can battle underwater with no problems at all?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on April 17, 2013, 02:36:02 AM
Quote from: Yugi on April 17, 2013, 02:27:04 AMWait, I just realized something.

Charmander, according to the pokedex, will die if the flame on its tail goes out, yet it can battle underwater with no problems at all?
The fact that ANY Pokemon can battle underwater is weird: you'd assume that some wouldn't be able to breathe underwater, and Electric-types (maybe even Water/Electric types?) as well... not mentioning the trainer themselves...

I just took creative liberty and assumed that the Pokemon diving underwater creates a giant air bubble of sorts.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on April 17, 2013, 02:41:18 AM
So Willing suspension of Disbelief?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on April 17, 2013, 12:28:37 PM
Quote from: Yugi on April 17, 2013, 02:41:18 AMSo Willing suspension of Disbelief?
Not really: more like, amending the situation to make it slightly more believable (although we don't have such technology on earth, one might assume that diving Pokemon have the ability to manipulate the water in such a way).
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on April 17, 2013, 12:58:08 PM
Guys -_-

They're video games. They don't have to be logical. Not everything has to have an explanation.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on April 17, 2013, 01:54:00 PM
....are you guys arguing video game "logic"? Really?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on April 17, 2013, 01:57:05 PM
another one: how can charmander even breathe fire, let alone have a constant burning flame on its tail? jeez
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on April 17, 2013, 01:59:32 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on April 17, 2013, 01:54:00 PM....are you guys arguing video game "logic"? Really?
I believe the words is "discussing." :P

Quote from: Waddle Bro on April 17, 2013, 12:58:08 PMGuys -_-

They're video games. They don't have to be logical. Not everything has to have an explanation.
Wynaut?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on April 17, 2013, 02:09:34 PM
One of my biggest pet peeves in the entire universe is people overanalyzing any aspect of Pokemon.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on April 19, 2013, 01:41:44 AM
Spoiler
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Spoiler
The way the Genesect convert into the high-speed-things reminds me, for some reason, of the Rahkshi in the old BIONICLE commercials (what I'm talking about can be seen at the beginning)...
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Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on April 19, 2013, 01:49:49 AM
I love how there's a happy song when Genesect are Wrecking havoc on Castelia city.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on April 19, 2013, 03:52:27 AM
I was reminded of the music dissonance from NGE.... not a good thing... -shudder-
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on April 19, 2013, 07:00:51 AM
That trailer actually looked pretty awesome! Mewtwo's entrance was so cool!
It might just be that my standards for the anime are very low right now, but that actually looks epic! Of course, that song in the middle ruined a lot :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: fabbemannen on April 19, 2013, 08:31:52 AM
So, after all these years of main, spin-off and modded Pokemon-games, I finally traded a Pokemon with someone yesterday! ;D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on April 19, 2013, 10:54:20 AM
So apparently there was a Meloetta download the day before yesterday. That I missed.

The thing that bothers me is that you could have mailed you game card to them and they'd download it to you and mail it back.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on April 19, 2013, 12:49:35 PM
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on April 19, 2013, 10:54:20 AMSo apparently there was a Meloetta download the day before yesterday. That I missed.

The thing that bothers me is that you could have mailed you game card to them and they'd download it to you and mail it back.
I missed the event here too, but it was entirely my fault. I_I
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on April 19, 2013, 01:14:13 PM
Funny. I missed it too.

Does ANYONE have Meloetta?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on April 19, 2013, 02:12:55 PM
I do.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on April 19, 2013, 03:13:24 PM
Yup, I got mine.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on April 20, 2013, 05:40:03 AM
For some reason SO MANY PEOPLE name their Cryogonals "Bittercold". I have no idea of the reference. ???
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on April 20, 2013, 07:18:03 AM
BEST REFERENCE EVER
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on April 20, 2013, 09:30:49 AM
Just won a Pokemon tournament in Showdown. 'Twas fun
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on April 20, 2013, 10:35:43 AM
Aren't these fake-mons just awesome? :D
Pippolo (http://24.media.tumblr.com/c2c365201d692a9a7d7b6b93a82b95b5/tumblr_mjbbgm5Tmh1rw7u8ro1_1280.jpg) ~ Pelocarina (http://25.media.tumblr.com/0c0c94a20031851d3721ee75ea98b2c9/tumblr_mjbbgm5Tmh1rw7u8ro2_1280.jpg) ~ Cradenza (http://25.media.tumblr.com/e2edbb16f4e158d514f8997dc0064e60/tumblr_mjbbgm5Tmh1rw7u8ro3_1280.jpg)
I'd sooo play with a Cradenza, if only it was real..
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on April 20, 2013, 10:47:07 PM
So I totally did not just spend 3 hours trying to recruit Kecleon in my PMD Blue.

:(
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on April 21, 2013, 09:49:28 AM
Did you have the success?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on April 21, 2013, 09:56:47 AM
Judging by the frowny face, I'm guessing not.... I would never have that kind of patience.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on April 21, 2013, 01:40:12 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on April 21, 2013, 09:56:47 AMJudging by the frowny face, I'm guessing not.... I would never have that kind of patience.
Or, maybe he did, but is sad that he spent so long??
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on April 21, 2013, 01:40:45 PM
Hm... or that.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on April 21, 2013, 04:38:02 PM
WHICH IS IT
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: TheZeldaPianist275 on April 21, 2013, 06:42:35 PM
Let us conduct an in-depth study of FSM's motives.  Mashi and Maestro, we need you over here.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on April 21, 2013, 06:45:35 PM
FSM

INSTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on April 22, 2013, 02:19:29 PM
Large Image D:
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.ifcdn.com%2Fimages%2Fceebf7fc04a4334b30d915760eda843d2f21752adc38eb83dfa9dac595a9d810_1.jpg&hash=821c202e88db4eee2814f14d2b0033fad44d5f8c)
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Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Zunawe on April 23, 2013, 06:01:34 PM
A tool I need testers for. (http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=5546.new#new)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on April 23, 2013, 06:10:06 PM
So I've been thinking of making a romhack for Pokemon Black/White.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on May 02, 2013, 06:13:01 AM
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on May 02, 2013, 07:12:23 AM
Already heard it  8)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on May 03, 2013, 06:34:41 AM
Oh my goodness that is pro!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on May 04, 2013, 09:25:46 AM

Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on May 10, 2013, 05:37:44 PM
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7443831296/hC281822F/)
LOLOLOL
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on May 10, 2013, 05:47:52 PM
Charizard?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on May 10, 2013, 05:52:54 PM
So we've got some big news heading our way. Corocoro should leak soon, AND the 19th pokemon smash is having a huge x/y special!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on May 11, 2013, 04:45:02 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on May 10, 2013, 05:52:54 PMSo we've got some big news heading our way. Corocoro should leak soon, AND the 19th pokemon smash is having a huge x/y special!
You lost me at Corocoro onwards...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on May 12, 2013, 06:26:39 PM
Pokemon Move Idea

Excalipoor: 40 PP
100% accuracy
19 out of 20 times, it only does one damage.

However, if you get lucky, it will instantly KO the opponents pokemon, regardless of abilities.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on May 13, 2013, 05:37:10 PM
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7446633984/h3D7D90F3/)
Oh my gosh.

Pokémon or Emma Watson?

Pokémon would benefit all people, depending on how long they exist in the world...everyone would have fun being with their pokémon and training them...

but Emma Watson, guys. Damn. I guess, she would only benefit you, because you're with her, and nobody else...

hard decision.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on May 13, 2013, 05:39:19 PM
Are you stupid??? I'll decide for you: Pokemon. Seriously, Emma Watson is a female and not only that, there are plenty of other attractive ones out there. Besides it's not like if you pick Pokemon she'll stop existing. What would Emma want you to do? Come on man.

Now comes the REALLY hard question, which Pokemon would you want?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on May 13, 2013, 05:45:53 PM
Slow makes a pretty good point.

And... guh. I dunno. It'd really be hard to pick just one.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on May 13, 2013, 05:46:52 PM
Now I'm picturing Emma Watson with an Espeon.

I think I'd pick...this is hard D: one of the Grass-type starters, or maybe Minccino
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on May 13, 2013, 05:48:05 PM
Drifloon? Dunsparce? Furret??? Who would I choose urgh
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on May 13, 2013, 06:33:25 PM
Mew obviously :P "Ancestor of all Pokemon", plus it can transform into anything. Plus its a PINK CAT
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on May 13, 2013, 08:28:32 PM
More like pink fetus~
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on May 13, 2013, 08:42:16 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on May 13, 2013, 08:28:32 PMMore like pink fetus~
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.bulbagarden.net%2Fupload%2F3%2F38%2FSpr_1g_151.png&hash=d25cfcc4175d3bc35f233d5e5e4d6f2125b9a601)

I thought that they've tried to distance it from that look? :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on May 25, 2013, 11:47:00 AM
This made me laugh:

(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7485713408/hF39D2445/)


And this makes me very nostalgic, as well as anxious:
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7472649728/hCD567C8C/)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on June 03, 2013, 09:05:58 PM
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.ifcdn.com%2Fimages%2F0164969194628f092db25bd7cf1b9bb4bf7f5ad3ebb7d1cbc35fffd18923f612_1.jpg&hash=3ad7341c75f111c37fd39b226d96d353b92831fa)

New move: White Flag.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on June 03, 2013, 09:07:43 PM
I'm crossing my fingers for a French revolution joke in the game.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on June 03, 2013, 11:18:20 PM
I'm looking for French nuances.

You guys don't know how excited I am for it.

Once I figure out my living situation (meaning permanent place I'm living in October), then I will preorder/order it!!!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on June 04, 2013, 02:21:03 AM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on June 03, 2013, 09:05:58 PM(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.ifcdn.com%2Fimages%2F0164969194628f092db25bd7cf1b9bb4bf7f5ad3ebb7d1cbc35fffd18923f612_1.jpg&hash=3ad7341c75f111c37fd39b226d96d353b92831fa)

New move: White Flag.
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.tvtropes.org%2Fpmwiki%2Fpub%2Fimages%2Ffrenchmilitarydefeats.jpg&hash=a89526fc69b27b85bf6789630b61f6abba551763)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on June 04, 2013, 02:05:50 PM
THOSE BOOTS

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/941700_580956721925915_113653025_n.jpg)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Zunawe on June 04, 2013, 02:09:03 PM
And that is why I don't do Wi-Fi battles.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on June 04, 2013, 06:11:13 PM
Wi-Fi battles are pretty chillz. You can still run your favorite Pokémon in a competitive team and have fun with it. That's what I do most of the time anyways. Yes there are predictions involved, but Pokémon is a game and the goal of playing competitively or not is to have fun. I'm planning on making a team with Poliwhirl and see if I can make it work. Yes I'm probably gonna get destroyed but at least it'll be a nice experience. =P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Zunawe on June 04, 2013, 07:39:58 PM
I'm way less serious about it than anybody I've battled. I don't even think up a different team, so I end up using the same tactics as I do in the story. They end up winning really quickly and make a bigger deal out of winning than battling. That's just a few of my experiences, and I suppose it may have ruined it for me. I'm also too lazy to rethink how I play just to battle friends.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on June 04, 2013, 08:03:05 PM
Yeah, you find those players everywhere, especially on battle simulators like PS or PO. Some take the game way too seriously (like people insulting you when you get a crit on a battle simulator, or when people straight dc when you ko their last Pokémon on Wi-Fi), and imho those players are morons but that's not the point. Maybe thinking up a different team would help, just because you get to try a lot of different 'mons out and it makes the game more interesting. If playing competitively isn't fun for you I can understand though =P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on June 04, 2013, 08:27:30 PM
Quote from: spitllama on June 04, 2013, 02:05:50 PM(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/941700_580956721925915_113653025_n.jpg)
Energy Ball instead of Giga Drain on a Celebi?!?

That's just silly.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on June 04, 2013, 10:36:56 PM
YOU'RE ALL IGNORING THE BOOTS


YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on June 04, 2013, 11:58:10 PM
Tyranitar with booties and an umbrella is too cute though.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on June 05, 2013, 12:09:00 AM
Why Nebbles what good taste you have. I'd have to agree.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on June 11, 2013, 04:04:36 AM
Pokemon Plot twist: N was doing a nuzlocke.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on June 11, 2013, 02:05:39 PM
Fairy type... yeah, I guess? ???
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on June 11, 2013, 02:34:43 PM
I'm down for it. Something else good against dragon, thank god.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on June 11, 2013, 02:35:37 PM
I'm hoping that Poison will be super effective against it so it'll actually be a practical type.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on June 11, 2013, 02:56:47 PM
I think it should be? Poison needs a nice buff.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on June 11, 2013, 11:38:41 PM
So, yeah, I started a Pomemon Emerald nuzlocke today, nothing interesting, just the standard rules.

Current team
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsprites.pokecheck.org%2Fi%2F258.gif&hash=7745b18def97d3a4ed6ecf59c374b45e66913684)
Darkhorse (Mudkip) lvl 8
-Tackle
-Growl
-Mud Slap
-

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsprites.pokecheck.org%2Fi%2F268.gif&hash=d7b62ee7f13d4490d80458c82e0b5072aa947c92)
Butterful (Cascoon) lvl 8
-Tackle
-String Shot
-Poison Sting
-Harden

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsprites.pokecheck.org%2Fi%2F261.gif&hash=50d41b8548e92cb632e211e9a47c5f79c78975a5)
GODHATES (Poocheyena) lvl 8
-Tackle
-Howl
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(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsprites.pokecheck.org%2Fi%2F276.gif&hash=24d02d5b29b6bd112b899a18419e4ff55d395fd4)
Fatty (Tailow) lvl 8
-Peck
-Growl
-Focus Energy
-Quick Attack

Benched Pokemon
Null.

Dead Pokemon.
Null.


Good so far? I'm at Petalberg city.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on June 19, 2013, 05:29:54 PM
After a few centuries I finally uploaded 5th generation?

http://a.random-image.net/jub/pokemon.jpg
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fa.random-image.net%2Fjub%2Fpokemon.jpg&hash=699d14de0bae80bd26bd006bff5982bb219f3014)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on June 19, 2013, 05:42:09 PM
I was going to suggest we all change our avatars to that but then I realized Chad York is coming and if we all had a randomized Pokemon for our avatar he would get immensely confused
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on June 19, 2013, 05:45:37 PM
If the link is loaded on the same page, it shows the same pokemon. The way to get around that is by copying the randomizer multiple times???

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fa.random-image.net%2Fjub%2Fpokemon.jpg&hash=699d14de0bae80bd26bd006bff5982bb219f3014)(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fa.random-image.net%2Fjub%2Fpokemon2.jpg&hash=30e56ca8248cf9ab5ff7dbe1c96c211c072ecbd5)(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fa.random-image.net%2Fjub%2Fpokemon3.jpg&hash=394481c0da4a029580ae16e8a377456bd1991672)

edit: (instructions on how to copy my randomizer)

Spoiler
To make your own copy, go to www.random-image.net, (with an account) create a new randomizer and click "modify images" under actions on the right side.
Click on the 'here' where it says "To use the old-fashioned textbox, click here."
Inside the blank text box, paste this:
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Title: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on June 19, 2013, 10:40:28 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on June 19, 2013, 05:42:09 PMChad York

??
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on June 19, 2013, 10:46:32 PM
http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=5672.0;topicseen
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on June 19, 2013, 11:10:03 PM
Ah thanks
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Clanker37 on June 27, 2013, 04:45:20 AM
http://www.vooks.net/nintendo-australia-hosting-pokemon-australian-national-championships-at-pax-aus/

OH MY GOD
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on June 27, 2013, 08:34:26 AM
WIN A TRIP AND COME MEET ME IN VANCOUVER Y/Y
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Clanker37 on June 28, 2013, 12:37:09 AM
Quote from: Roz~ on June 27, 2013, 08:34:26 AMWIN A TRIP AND COME MEET ME IN VANCOUVER Y/Y
YEAH!

But I haven't played Pokemanz competitively in 6 months :/. And I still suck.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on June 28, 2013, 07:50:40 AM
nuggetbridge.com
Gogogo
I can also try to help you out if you want, before I leave or after I come back from US Nats =P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Clanker37 on June 30, 2013, 05:51:53 AM
I got into the quarter finals! :D Then I lost... :/

But it was fun! There's always next year!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on June 30, 2013, 03:37:46 PM
*sigh*

I wouldn't call it "World Championships" when they prevent young Pokemon talents such as myself from participating. The thing that really hurts my feelings is that I'll never even get a chance to show to the world how good I am.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on June 30, 2013, 04:18:42 PM
Yeah, it sucks. =/
It's like for Canada, they announced our Nats championship last year, but 3 days later decided to cancel it, and some higher up posted on Pokegym that if you lived in Canada or Mexico you were screwed 'cause they don't feel like organizing events for small playerbase. =/
I think you'll have to do like me and travel abroad to Nats if you ever want to compete... which sucks. Also Japan only have 2 players in each divisions this year @ Worlds, and Korea only has 1 player for each divisions. Wtf. You could always try to grind in the Worlds LCQ as well. I'm probably gonna do that, and if I don't make it in welp at least I'll have a couple of days to visit Vancouver.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on June 30, 2013, 04:38:19 PM
It shouldn't be so hard to arrange goddamn semifinals and decide who gets to go to Vancouver. Just rent a big hall where everyone fits and the countries could recycle the video projectors, screens and other shiz and the local Nintendo distributor pays the flight tickets. Advertisement would pay back EVERYTHING.
People at the VGC have to let their hands go from their dicks and suggest this.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on June 30, 2013, 04:49:42 PM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on June 30, 2013, 04:38:19 PMPeople at the VGC have to let their hands go from their dicks and suggest this.

xDDD can we just agree this is the best way of saying "we need other tournaments"
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on June 30, 2013, 04:55:08 PM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on June 30, 2013, 04:38:19 PMIt shouldn't be so hard to arrange goddamn semifinals and decide who gets to go to Vancouver. Just rent a big hall where everyone fits and the countries could recycle the video projectors, screens and other shiz and the local Nintendo distributor pays the flight tickets. Advertisement would pay back EVERYTHING.
People at the VGC have to let their hands go from their dicks and suggest this.

Oh my god you made my day XD
But I think the thing we need to keep in mind is that apparently (and I say that because of what happened this year at UK Nats) TPCi has a set budget and they need to pay for the venue/prizes/etc without spending more than what they have. They even cut 2 of the 5 European Nats this year, so yeah... I dunno. I guess your best bet would be to try and attend German VGC next year? =/
I know it sucks, but it's TPCi we're talking about... and the organizers are dicks (kind of... the guy in charge of VGC said that no X-2 should be allowed to cut because they suck too much. In a game with luck like Pokémon, where a crit/freeze/para/etc can change the flow of a game entirely? Really? =___= )
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Clanker37 on July 01, 2013, 03:21:57 AM
Also, the Australian one was poorly done. We were only told on Thursday, which was three days before my Regionals. :/ It was the first ever and it sucked ass. Surely, they could've just put up a poster or two around. And only the top person gets to go to Aus Nats. Really? 1 person from every capital city would mean a tournament of 8 at Aus Nats. It's sooo stupid.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on July 01, 2013, 11:26:35 AM
It is. What's dumb is they're hosting Regs/Nats in Australia, but not in Canada. Hello? There's less people living in Australia, but you host Nats there even though you refused to host Nats in Canada because there isn't enough people here? TPCi's logic is flawless =___=
And yeah, you guys learning about it not even a week before the events sucks. Hopefully it'll be better next year!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on July 02, 2013, 01:21:57 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on July 02, 2013, 12:55:35 PMMINCCINO IS MY FAVORITE POKEMON <333333
I tried using Cinccino on one of my Pokémon Showdown teams once. Needless to say, although it was fun, Jirachi served the role better.

(posting this here so that the AC thread doesn't become too off-topic)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on July 02, 2013, 01:45:28 PM
omg i care so much
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 02, 2013, 01:53:13 PM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on July 02, 2013, 01:45:28 PMomg i care so much

This, plus Skill Link Cinccino is very usable
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on July 02, 2013, 03:51:15 PM
Dude, Skill Link Cinccino is the best. Skill Link ANYTHING is the best.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on July 02, 2013, 03:56:35 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on July 02, 2013, 03:51:15 PMDude, Skill Link Cinccino is the best. Skill Link ANYTHING is the best.
Serene Grace Jirachi served the role better of flinch haxer. In OU.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on July 02, 2013, 04:11:07 PM
I actually use a Scarfed Cinccino quite a lot in my OU teams.
Mostly because it's a powerhouse and it has a good movepool. And for the lolz factor.

Also Cinccino isn't even meant to hax da shiz outta you in OU, you fucking genius. Scarf is the only option for OU.
Basically anything faster will literary demolish Cinccino in OU, since it's so fragile.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on July 02, 2013, 04:41:26 PM
^this
there's a reason Cincinno isn't OU. And who the hell would think about using Cincinno as a flinch haxxer lol
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on July 02, 2013, 04:50:08 PM
^this
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on July 02, 2013, 04:52:23 PM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on July 02, 2013, 04:11:07 PMAlso Cinccino isn't even meant to hax da shiz outta you in OU, you fucking genius.
I'm pretty sure I already said that...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on July 02, 2013, 04:57:33 PM
THEN WHY THE HELL DID YOU EVEN TRY IT AS A FLINCHAXER.

My head is hurting from your logic, man, my head is hurtin'.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on July 02, 2013, 05:08:12 PM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on July 02, 2013, 04:57:33 PMTHEN WHY THE HELL DID YOU EVEN TRY IT AS A FLINCHAXER.

My head is hurting from your logic, man, my head is hurtin'.
Do I really need to state it directly?
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F24.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_m2wwdz4Tum1r95m39o1_400.gif&hash=05d1f03dad0e4155808b61abe821ca23c3907e94)
1: As a gimmicky strategy (as you said, "for the lolz factor").
2: To see if it actually worked or not, which I stated earlier, after testing it, it DID NOT WORK, or did not work well enough to warrant using it.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on July 02, 2013, 05:13:52 PM
oh no you didnt just facewall me brah OH NO U DIDNT

So basically you could't think beforehand that "hey, this idea is gonna suck". It was so obvious that it would, like c'mon.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on July 02, 2013, 05:35:53 PM
I agree, it's obvious it's gonna suck, but I guess you can use it on a troll team... One of the best items for it is Silk Scarf methinks.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on July 02, 2013, 06:26:07 PM
I'm starting to enjoy OU, even though I suck and I'm still learning good strategies.

My Shell Smash + Skill Link Cloyster actually works pretty well in certain circumstances.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on July 02, 2013, 07:03:25 PM
Lightning Bruiser Drapion is best Drapion.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on July 03, 2013, 03:10:15 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on July 02, 2013, 05:35:53 PMOne of the best items for it is Silk Scarf methinks.
Life Orb > Silk Scarf

Although I'd stick with the Choice items on Cinccino.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on July 03, 2013, 08:13:31 PM
Oh right in Singles you can use the same items more than once. Still I think boosting Tail Slap without losing health every turn is decent. I guess it makes more sense in the VGC metagame though.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on July 04, 2013, 02:04:13 AM
The thing is that Life Orb boosts moves like Bullet Seed and Rock Blast too.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on July 04, 2013, 02:13:21 AM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on January 05, 2013, 03:13:11 PMIt's the Ruby and Sapphire remakes. It must be. Anyone who disagrees, see that thing up there?

It's called the Logout button.
lol
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on July 05, 2013, 08:19:48 PM
POKEMON EMERALD FIRST UPDATE:

Progress:
Talked to Dad for the first time.

Team:
Darkhorse (Lvl 8 ♂ Mudkip)
Magpie (Lvl 9 ♀ Tailow)

Names:
Mudkip > Ensemble Darkhorse (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EnsembleDarkhorse)
Tailow > Sparrow > Magpie




NOTES:
-   My previous save got corrupted 
-   Coming back to this after Pokemon Black is a rather odd experience, and knowing that this game could never be good as it makes me sad.
-   Am I the only one who thought that sending a kid through a moving truck was child abuse?
-   I did the normal "take potion out of computer" thing that appears in every Pokemon game.
-   Chose Mudkip, as it has more advantages than the other two.
-   The Music so far is phenominal, in particular Rival Battle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKknWySxmmI), and the Title Theme. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYtaoZsFb3I)
-   Almost lost to May, but luckily I had two potions!
-   OH YES RUNNING SHOES
-   I delebrately skipped some trainers on route 102, so I could fight them later with a Tailow.
-   I would have found it hilarious if wally hadn't caught that Ralts with his Pokeball .
-   Skipping trainers until I got Tailow paid off, It reached Lvl 9 in no time.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 05, 2013, 08:43:36 PM
"Battle! Brendan / May" is one of the best pieces in the Ruby and Sapphire generations--I really love it :D

Quote from: Yugi on July 05, 2013, 08:19:48 PMI would have found it hilarious if wally hadn't caught that Ralts with his Pokeball .

I find it more hilarious that now he has to train it when at Lv. 5 Ralts's only move is Growl, and he has no other Pokemon to switch with. Good luck Wally xD
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Clanker37 on July 05, 2013, 08:59:27 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on July 05, 2013, 08:43:36 PMI find it more hilarious that now he has to train it when at Lv. 5 Ralts's only move is Growl, and he has no other Pokemon to switch with. Good luck Wally xD
I always assumed that his mum gave him a rare candy. Since he does say that his mum wanted to give hims something. If it's a rare candy it's learn Confusion and would be able to attack.

I guess I've just Englished to much :/
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Echo on July 05, 2013, 10:41:43 PM
Quote from: Yugi on July 05, 2013, 08:19:48 PMAm I the only one who thought that sending a kid through a moving truck was child abuse?

Check your house layout. It's a fair deal, considering that you get a whole room to yourself when you won't even be using it for most of the game, while your mom has to sleep in the kitchen/living room, and your dad stays in another building in a different city.

QuoteChose Mudkip

So I herd u liek... >_>
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 05, 2013, 10:48:21 PM
Quote from: Echo on July 05, 2013, 10:41:43 PMSo I herd u liek... >_>

no
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Echo on July 05, 2013, 10:51:17 PM
:(
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on July 06, 2013, 06:40:49 PM
POKEMON EMERALD SECOND UPDATE:

Progress: Just Got the Stone Badge

Pokemon:
Darkhorse (Lvl 14 ♂ Mudkip)
Magpie (Lvl 10 ♀ Tailow)
Badger (Lvl 12 ♀ Shroomish)

Nicknames:
Mudkip > Ensemble Darkhorse (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EnsembleDarkhorse)
Tailow > Sparrow > Magpie
Shroomish > Shroom > Mushroom > Badger

NOTES:
-   Shroomish will become a big help in the future huehuehue
-   Why need tackle, when you can use absorb?
-   Wait, why does footprint guy's footprints disappear a second after he leaves them there?
-   I love how the Magikarp Fisherman on Route 104 says that his Magikarp looks top quality.
-   holy shit shroomish went up two levels after killing one zigzagoon
-   Wurmple Trainers = Free exp for Mudkip
-   Okay I can't take the name of Devon Corp Seriously as Devon is a type of meat here.
-   The Aqua Grunt was a pretty easy battle, and yay for level 10 Darkhorse
-   I didn't know that Nincada was Water/Ground, oh well, at least Water Gun OHKO's it.
-   Got Bullet Seed, meh, Absorb is a far better move.
-   Wait why do ordinary trainers have full restores at this point in the game?
-   Went into the Gym, Hello Clyde! Are you going to stalk me for the Whole Game?
-   GODDAMMIT HOW MANY POTIONS DO YOU HAVE ROXANNE!?
-   Anyway, I curb-stomped Roxxane with Darkhorse and Water Gun. Yay for first Badge!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on July 06, 2013, 07:28:25 PM
Quote from: Yugi on July 06, 2013, 06:40:49 PMShroomish > Shroom > Mushroom > Badger
Absolutely... wonderful. :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 06, 2013, 08:02:07 PM
Ordinary trainers don't have full restores. The only ones that do are Rich Boy and Lady
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on July 07, 2013, 12:35:34 AM
EMON EMERALD THIRD UPDATE:
Progress: Got the Knuckle Badge.

Pokemon:
Darkhorse (Lvl 16♂ Marshstomp)
Magpie (Lvl 16 ♀ Tailow)
Badger (Lvl 15 ♀ Shroomish)

Nicknames:
Mudkip > Ensemble Darkhorse (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EnsembleDarkhorse)
Tailow > Sparrow > Magpie
Shroomish > Shroom > Mushroom > Badger

NOTES:
-   Why can't I use the running shoes in Roxanne's Gym? 
-   "DON'T TAKE MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOODDDDDSSSSSSSSSSS" is possibly the best line ever.
-   Uh which pokemon should I put the quick claw on?
-   No youngster joey your pokemon do not rule.
-   Rustboro City's Music is so peaceful.
-   Tailow learned Wing Attack Just in time for Brawly's Gym.
-   Do I get to meet the Lone Team Aqua Grunt Again after the cave?
-   Caught a Nincada as a HM Slave.
-   Got the Pokenav, and now I can reeeeeeeeeeeeematttttttchhhhhhhhhhhh.
-   Got HM01 from the old guy
-   I just realised that Darkhorse is the only Male Pokemon in my party huehuehue
-   Battled May, Magpie Curb-stomped her team though.
-   Yep experts totally use a team of 6 magikarp.
-   I wonder what the miracle seed lady would have said if I didn't have the Stone Badge?
-   I'm pretty sure that on everyone's first playthrough we went between Peeko and Mr. Briney to block his way.
-   Detect is possibly the most annoyingly cheap move I've ever seen.
-   Mudkip Evolved after taking down a Meditite.
-   And as predicted Brawley is a musclehead.
-   The Battle Against him didn't go as planned however, with Vital throw knocking out over half my team, at least I finished him off with Mud Shot!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Dude on July 17, 2013, 01:40:13 PM
http://www.mediafire.com/?9h1tn316gb91c9k

*Was bored*
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on July 17, 2013, 02:45:53 PM
Oh, I started a White 2 challenge mode nuzlocke the other day!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on July 20, 2013, 05:13:19 PM
I found a dvd at Target with 4 of the Pokemon movies on it, and it was only $5 :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 20, 2013, 06:22:28 PM
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on July 20, 2013, 05:13:19 PMI found a dvd at Target with 4 of the Pokemon movies on it, and it was only $5 :D

Oh yeah I bought that last summer there :) my brother and I marathoned them.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on August 16, 2013, 07:25:13 PM
Pokemon: The Origin announced (http://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=210089), what looks like either a TV special or anime series to run alongside the normal anime going back to the Kanto storyline starring Red and Green.

Is your body ready?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Echo on August 16, 2013, 08:26:05 PM
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 16, 2013, 08:57:21 PM
this looks too good to be true omfg
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 16, 2013, 11:50:48 PM
HELL YEAH RED AND GREEN ANIME
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on August 17, 2013, 01:18:10 AM
omfg

This is the official turning point of the Pokemon anime. It starts being good for the first time in years.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: InsigTurtle on August 17, 2013, 01:46:31 AM
Imagine. For the first time in history, we'll be able to hear Red's voice.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DonValentino on August 17, 2013, 02:46:05 AM
Pokemon: The Origins FTW!

Also... These pictures appeared after the Pokemon X and Y demo at the Pokemon Game Show. I don't want to get my hopes high, they could be random pictures, but... Pokemon Wii U?!? :o
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on August 17, 2013, 02:51:09 AM
NO HOTLINKING DONVALENTINO
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DonValentino on August 17, 2013, 06:09:57 AM
http://nintendoeverything.com/what-is-this-pokemon-screenshot/

Sorry.

EDIT: Never mind. Just a promo video. But still, those last seconds of the video are suspicious...

Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 17, 2013, 08:20:48 AM
Quote from: rosabellis on August 17, 2013, 01:46:31 AMImagine. For the first time in history, we'll be able to hear Red's voice.

oh my god i don't think i'm ready
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on August 17, 2013, 09:29:12 AM
I can't wait to hear the soundtrack too!

"JDMEK5's anticipation made it shudder!"
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on August 17, 2013, 10:40:21 AM
i have excite

edit: it's rumored that Origin will be a one time special :/ i was hoping it'd be a running series.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on August 17, 2013, 05:19:12 PM
Wait...omfg what happened? I watched the vid, and I heard whispers of this but...why are they doing this when we have all of season 1? I'm confused...but it looks awesome.

Is it a movie?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Zunawe on August 17, 2013, 08:20:15 PM
Season 1 basically had the start right and a few gym leaders. This will probably cover the path of the game more with actual sidequests possibly.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on August 18, 2013, 02:33:40 AM
Quote from: Kman96 on August 17, 2013, 05:19:12 PMIs it a movie?
It'll be a "special", so basically it could be everything from one five min-long episode to 40 twenty min-long episodes.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FSM-Reapr on August 19, 2013, 08:23:18 AM
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on August 19, 2013, 10:10:41 AM
Dammit Nintendo. Now you're offering all of the 4th gen dragons SHINY through Gamestop?

There goes the value of mine and Nebbles' hard-earned SRed shiny Giratinas.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 19, 2013, 11:51:58 AM
True, but who cares, more shiny Giratina's for me!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on August 19, 2013, 10:24:02 PM
Roz

the VGC 2014 will be in Washington

:'(
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 20, 2013, 08:14:47 AM
I know D:
I'm not gonna complain 'cause I can actually travel there by car... even though it's kind of a long ride.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on August 20, 2013, 05:49:49 PM
Quote from: spitllama on August 19, 2013, 10:10:41 AMThere goes the value of mine and Nebbles' hard-earned SRed shiny Giratinas.
I was gonna soft-restart till I got a shiny Giratina, but I didn't, and I'm happy. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on August 30, 2013, 05:39:43 PM
Pokémon...?

Spoiler
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Spoiler
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Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on September 10, 2013, 06:04:49 PM
^I laughed at every single one. :P

But I'm here cuz I have two questions regarding EVs:
1) Can gained EVs still result in stat changes after hitting level 100, thereby losing the ability to level up ever again?
2) How can one find out how many EVs a give pokémon has at a given point in each category?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on September 10, 2013, 08:08:17 PM
1) Any training on EVs is to be made before hitting level 100, so no.
2) You have to keep a count, but I recall seeing some EV calculators in the Interwebz. I prefer counting the EVs on paper when training my Pokemon.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on September 10, 2013, 09:51:42 PM
Yeah, keep a notebook. It's what I do, and honestly, it's really handy. Make it a small notebook that isn't cumbersome to bring everywhere.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: InsigTurtle on September 10, 2013, 11:03:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBsOTO5p2tw
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 11, 2013, 06:04:52 AM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on September 10, 2013, 08:08:17 PM1) Any training on EVs is to be made before hitting level 100, so no.
2) You have to keep a count, but I recall seeing some EV calculators in the Interwebz. I prefer counting the EVs on paper when training my Pokemon.

You can EV train your 'mons even when they're lvl 100 now.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on September 11, 2013, 06:58:50 AM
:O

I still prefer Pokesav
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 11, 2013, 07:25:48 AM
Yeah I use items to EV train my 'mons, it's much faster than battling the same Pokémon over and over again. But yeah now if you battle using let's say a lvl 100 event Arceus, it won't gain any xp but it'll gain EVs. Which is pretty nice.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on September 11, 2013, 07:37:04 AM
Yeah, Macho Brace/the Bracelets are the thing to have.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 11, 2013, 07:49:02 AM
Even with the Power Anklet/etc and the Pokérus, you still need to ko 25 'mons to boost one stat (if you want to run 252 Evs)
Items = faster since you can just spam them.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Echo on September 11, 2013, 11:20:02 AM
Don't forget about Join Avenue. Such a breeze for hatching/raising Pokemon now.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on September 11, 2013, 05:43:48 PM
Anyone know of a good way to get EV-lowering berries in 4th Gen (Johto) or 5th Gen?

Quote from: Echo on September 11, 2013, 11:20:02 AMDon't forget about Join Avenue. Such a breeze for hatching/raising Pokemon now.
How so? Join Avenue confused me so I kinda just forgot it existed and pretended I would never need it..
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 11, 2013, 06:21:23 PM
Join Avenue sucks.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on September 11, 2013, 06:48:47 PM
But what could it possibly be good for?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 11, 2013, 07:01:01 PM
Nothing. It sucks.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on September 11, 2013, 07:12:56 PM
K good cuz when I played through White again, I remember paying clear attention when they were explaining it and I couldn't find a single, productive reason to bother with it at all. I was right I guess..?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on September 11, 2013, 07:58:55 PM
I personally loved Join Avenue. Got to upgrade every store, and by the end of it all, you're rewarded with a lot of Max Revives, rare candies, easy ways to level up (gym), easy ways to hatch eggs (nursery), etc. Plus the lottery was fun to check every day. Idk, it was mindless but it was cool to invite people like gym leaders and elite four.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on September 11, 2013, 08:02:17 PM
Quote from: spitllama on September 11, 2013, 07:58:55 PMyou're rewarded with a lot of Max Revives, rare candies, easy ways to level up (gym), easy ways to hatch eggs (nursery), etc.
Join Avenue actually does something?! :o

If what you say is true, tell me how to achieve the same thing.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Echo on September 11, 2013, 09:16:15 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on September 11, 2013, 06:21:23 PMJoin Avenue sucks.

Join Avenue is the best feature from B2W2, arguably the best feature of all time.

Quote from: JDMEK5 on September 11, 2013, 06:48:47 PMBut what could it possibly be good for?

- Great theme song
- The Dojo can raise EVs from 4-64 points each stat, making it more precise than Vitamins, and is unaffected by the EV cap. Can also raise Levels, if you're too lazy to grind.
- The Cafe does similar things as the Dojo.
- The Nursery hatches eggs instantly.
- The Beauty Salon can be used to decrease EVs if you want to allocate them to different stats.
- The Market gives PP Ups, Max Repels, and Vitamins (among other things) for cheaper costs by buying in bulk.
- The Flower and Antique Shops might give you the odd important Berry or Gem, but those are only needed like once. Otherwise they can be moneymakers for the above shops, such as by selling their rare goods to Maniacs. Heart Scale's cool too for the Move Relearner.
- The Raffle's just free stuff a day, most notably for PP Max or Master Ball.
- Plus you get free Stardust from it over time, so it almost pays for itself.

Anyways, yeah, easiest way to get a big Join Avenue is to trade/battle a lot to get other people to come to your Avenue. Trading Magnemite for Magnemite on the GTS is the trick people use before for quick Join Avenue growth.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 12, 2013, 05:17:09 AM
Berries + Wings and Vitamins
'nuff said
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on September 12, 2013, 06:07:21 AM
^this
sissies take their pokemon to cafes to train them
real (wo)men battle

Quote from: Echo on September 11, 2013, 09:16:15 PMJoin Avenue is the best feature from B2W2, arguably the best feature of all time.
PWT was the greatest addition to Pokemon ever.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 12, 2013, 06:41:30 AM
Yup, PWT definitely was the best addition to Pokemon. But the AI is so dumb It's fun to battle the World Champs in each age divisions.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on September 12, 2013, 08:03:44 AM
Quote from: Echo on September 11, 2013, 09:16:15 PMAnyways, yeah, easiest way to get a big Join Avenue is to trade/battle a lot to get other people to come to your Avenue. Trading Magnemite for Magnemite on the GTS is the trick people use before for quick Join Avenue growth.
What if my White for some reason can't use Wi-Fi? Am I screwed at that point?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 12, 2013, 08:07:57 AM
Well you can't meet new people so you can't recruit them so your avenue won't grow. So yeah you could say you are screwed
Unless you can meet trainers irl.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on September 12, 2013, 08:39:29 AM
Quote from: Roz~ on September 12, 2013, 08:07:57 AMUnless you can meet trainers irl.
Good luck with that.. I only have 3 friends who have B/W and I hardly ever see 2 of them. Forget happen to have our games on us as well.. :(
(Gotta get Black before the Shiny Dialga's over)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on September 12, 2013, 08:53:07 AM
Apparently I'd need to preorder the game to get the shiny Creation trio.

I call bull-ass-shit.
Title: General Pokémon
Post by: spitllama on September 12, 2013, 09:27:30 AM
JDMEK, I only communicated with one irl person for Join Avenue, and even that wasn't necessary.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on September 12, 2013, 09:29:17 AM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on September 12, 2013, 08:53:07 AMApparently I'd need to preorder the game to get the shiny Creation trio.
Seriously? Preorder X and/or Y? I'm going to anyways but that's stupid to make it mandatory..

Quote from: spitllama on September 12, 2013, 09:27:30 AMJDMEK, I only communicated with one irl person for Join Avenue, and even that wasn't necessary.
? So you don't need to communicate with other real players at all?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on September 12, 2013, 09:29:28 AM
Yeah Join Avenue can develop without contact with any IRL trainers
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on September 12, 2013, 09:30:10 AM
How is it done? Just talk to random ppl or what?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on September 12, 2013, 09:33:05 AM
There will be NPCs on the Avenue every day and when you talk to them they might ask you a permission to open up a shop or you have to recommend a shop for them to go to.

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Join_Avenue
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 12, 2013, 09:53:18 AM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on September 12, 2013, 08:53:07 AMApparently I'd need to preorder the game to get the shiny Creation trio.

I call bull-ass-shit.

I remember the guy at EB Games asking for my name when I wanted to download Keldeo, to make sure I had pre-ordered Black2. Bullshit indeed. Can't you just pre-order and then cancel your pre-order though? I'd do that.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on September 12, 2013, 10:06:16 AM
Idc about the shinies. Not that important.

I'll be taking my money to another store as a protest.

Also, do want:
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.bulbagarden.net%2Fupload%2F1%2F1b%2FXY_Pre-order.png&hash=b6859c49d478d93d20bbb3a6189868531b5f6610)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on September 12, 2013, 10:13:04 AM
Quote from: Roz~ on September 12, 2013, 09:53:18 AMI remember the guy at EB Games asking for my name when I wanted to download Keldeo, to make sure I had pre-ordered Black2.
When I got the Shiny Raikou and Entei (I missed Suicune), I went to an EB games in a mall (coincidence), and instead of going in at all, I sat just outside the shop with my back to the wall and worked my DS downloading from there. I felt like an idiot just sitting right across from an eating spot (not a food court), but it sounds like it was worth it. ?

But what you do if they cheat you out of an event like that, is cheat them by doing your business just outside. ;)

Quote from: Waddle Bro on September 12, 2013, 10:06:16 AMI'll be taking my money to another store as a protest.
Too bad they don't know that.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Echo on September 12, 2013, 11:19:43 AM
Quote from: Roz~ on September 12, 2013, 05:17:09 AMBerries + Wings and Vitamins
'nuff said

You get Berries and Vitamins at Join Avenue for cheaper though. >_>

Quote from: Waddle Bro on September 12, 2013, 06:07:21 AMPWT was the greatest addition to Pokemon ever.

PWT's cool, I just wish all the Download Tournaments were released internationally.


Quote from: JDMEK5 on September 12, 2013, 08:39:29 AMGood luck with that.. I only have 3 friends who have B/W and I hardly ever see 2 of them. Forget happen to have our games on us as well.. :(
(Gotta get Black before the Shiny Dialga's over)

If you miss it but the worker there's nice enough, they can change the clock back on the DS to give you Dialga. Works the other way too, to get Palkia and Giratina early.

Quote from: Waddle Bro on September 12, 2013, 08:53:07 AMApparently I'd need to preorder the game to get the shiny Creation trio.

I call bull-ass-shit.

Call them out on their bs.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on September 12, 2013, 11:34:42 AM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on September 12, 2013, 08:53:07 AMApparently I'd need to preorder the game to get the shiny Creation trio.

I call bull-ass-shit.
They're much more lenient here at Gamestop, I suppose. Although they constantly ask you if you want to pre-order, it's rather easy to sneak in unnoticed with a crowd of people, and get out before they notice. :P We used to be able to do the events while standing outside, but I think they realized that people were doing that instead of coming in!!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on September 12, 2013, 12:30:45 PM
But that's morally wrong though.

Considering they have all the rights to the event and to get you pre-order, downloading Pokemon that they have the rights to distribute with their own choices, is considered as stealing.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Echo on September 12, 2013, 12:51:29 PM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on September 12, 2013, 12:30:45 PMBut that's morally wrong though.

Considering they have all the rights to the event and to get you pre-order, downloading Pokemon that they have the rights to distribute with their own choices, is considered as stealing.

Your store's the one that's morally wrong, because the pre-order's not supposed to be mandatory for the download. It's not a pre-order bonus, just a promotional event.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on September 12, 2013, 12:53:53 PM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on September 12, 2013, 12:30:45 PMBut that's morally wrong though.

Considering they have all the rights to the event and to get you pre-order, downloading Pokemon that they have the rights to distribute with their own choices, is considered as stealing.
Like Echo said, in this case, pre-ordering is not mandatory for the events. It's just a way to lure more customers in.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on September 12, 2013, 03:00:14 PM
Quote from: JDMEK5 on September 12, 2013, 10:13:04 AMWhen I got the Shiny Raikou and Entei (I missed Suicune), I went to an EB games in a mall (coincidence), and instead of going in at all, I sat just outside the shop with my back to the wall and worked my DS downloading from there. I felt like an idiot just sitting right across from an eating spot (not a food court), but it sounds like it was worth it. ?

But what you do if they cheat you out of an event like that, is cheat them by doing your business just outside. ;)
Too bad they don't know that.

Eh, well here they'd turn off their DS to make sure no one could download them outside the store. >_>

Quote from: Echo on September 12, 2013, 11:19:43 AMYou get Berries and Vitamins at Join Avenue for cheaper though. >_>

I don't need the Avenue to get as many berries/vitamins I need, so I don't care.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on September 12, 2013, 04:48:27 PM
Quote from: Roz~ on September 12, 2013, 03:00:14 PMEh, well here they'd turn off their DS to make sure no one could download them outside the store. >_>
You mean their router or whatever's broadcasting the event?
Fortunately I don't think the EB games in Winnipeg have gotten to that point yet, so I plan to just sit in the car right in front of the shop and do it there. There's no way they can see me from the desk. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Echo on September 12, 2013, 04:56:24 PM
Quote from: JDMEK5 on September 12, 2013, 04:48:27 PMYou mean their router or whatever's broadcasting the event?

The broadcasting device is literally just a DS with a special game card.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on September 12, 2013, 05:16:04 PM
Quote from: Echo on September 12, 2013, 04:56:24 PMThe broadcasting device is literally just a DS with a special game card.
Interesting; I never knew that...

EDIT: Mmmmm... I wonder how much you'd have to pay to bribe them... Although I meant that as a joke, I seriously wonder how somebody would get their hands on one (since there appear to be people on Ebay who have sold them)... really, really, I wouldn't try it... but... I'm just curious... :K
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on September 12, 2013, 06:16:49 PM
No kidding. That's intriguing.. Now I'm really impressed my DS could reach all the way from outside.. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on September 12, 2013, 08:59:55 PM
Quote from: Echo on September 12, 2013, 12:51:29 PMYour store's the one that's morally wrong, because the pre-order's not supposed to be mandatory for the download. It's not a pre-order bonus, just a promotional event.
They still have the rights to do that so it's considered legal. It sucks, but they can do what they want.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on September 25, 2013, 03:12:10 AM
Oh boy, 3 AM! Pokepun time!

Spoiler
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Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on September 25, 2013, 11:53:44 AM
Bahahaha!! The abomasnow one was the best! XD (I'm known around my friend group for being able to pick out every pun anyone accidentally says, and come up with my own on a regular basis ;))
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on October 03, 2013, 03:47:00 AM
Has nobody else noticed this poll? Everybody vote!!!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on October 03, 2013, 05:35:30 AM
Ummm... my option isn't up there.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on October 03, 2013, 06:34:15 AM
Pokémon: The Origin is out, guys!
http://www.animefreak.tv/watch/pokemon-origin-episode-1-online
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on October 03, 2013, 06:36:22 AM
All hail Jompa for all da awesomeness
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on October 03, 2013, 02:24:02 PM
Episode 2 came out just now too  ;D
It says on MAL that there'll be four of them - idk when though.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on October 04, 2013, 03:37:47 PM
Aaaaand they just came out ^.^
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on October 04, 2013, 04:37:21 PM
I have all 4 episodes, and they're subbed. Can't wait to watch them :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bubbles on October 11, 2013, 03:57:19 PM
My cat walked by me earlier and made this small little chirp that sounded so familiar, and after a little searching I found it!


my cat is an actual absol
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on October 11, 2013, 04:05:15 PM
omfg does it mega evolve and get wings too
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on October 11, 2013, 04:06:52 PM
QuoteIt appears from deep in the mountains to warn people about upcoming disasters it has sensed with its horn.

run
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on October 11, 2013, 04:19:44 PM
So I'm planning on making an OU team in X/Y.

Assuming the tiers don't change a whole lot with the new generation, does anyone have any pointers?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on October 11, 2013, 05:06:02 PM
Ferrothorn
He's OP
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on October 11, 2013, 05:08:01 PM
Quote from: K-NiGhT on October 11, 2013, 04:19:44 PMSo I'm planning on making an OU team in X/Y.

Assuming the tiers don't change a whole lot with the new generation, does anyone have any pointers?
Spoiler
Aegislash.

Goodra. :P

Choose your Mega Evolution wisely, assuming there are some in OU... but really, there's a lot that hasn't been revealed yet, so aside from general assumptions, I can't really give you anything.
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Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on October 11, 2013, 05:58:20 PM
Quote from: K-NiGhT on October 11, 2013, 04:19:44 PMSo I'm planning on making an OU team in X/Y.

Assuming the tiers don't change a whole lot with the new generation, does anyone have any pointers?
Volcarona can be incredibly effective on a sun team, as I have recently found out. Fiery Dance/Quiver Dance/Roost/Bug Buzz.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on October 15, 2013, 12:50:23 PM
So as of this very moment I have:

•Hawlucha
•Jolteon
•Ralts
•Honedge
•Axew

Not sure what to do as far as my last spot.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on October 15, 2013, 09:01:30 PM
LAWL

Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on October 16, 2013, 11:32:23 AM
Quote from: K-NiGhT on October 11, 2013, 04:19:44 PMSo I'm planning on making an OU team in X/Y.

Assuming the tiers don't change a whole lot with the new generation, does anyone have any pointers?
K-N, I don't even know would you even find legit opponents, but if you want, when Smogon is done with updating the new Pokemon, I could possibly help you build a truly awsm team.

When it comes to Pokemon, you should come straight to the best~
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on October 16, 2013, 11:36:48 AM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on October 16, 2013, 11:32:23 AMK-N, I don't even know would you even find legit opponents, but if you want, when Smogon is done with updating the new Pokemon, I could possibly help you build a truly awsm team.

When it comes to Pokemon, you should come straight to the best~

HELLO :3
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on October 16, 2013, 11:40:03 AM
Roz, you want help in OU?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on October 16, 2013, 11:49:44 AM
Everyone knows BL is where it's at.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on October 16, 2013, 03:23:56 PM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on October 16, 2013, 11:32:23 AMK-N, I don't even know would you even find legit opponents, but if you want, when Smogon is done with updating the new Pokemon, I could possibly help you build a truly awsm team.

When it comes to Pokemon, you should come straight to the best~
turns out a lot of people at my school actually got the game. Also I want to have a chance when I fight you and Roz.

That being said, any help i could get from you or roz would be awesome. I'm still trying to figure out natures >.<
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on October 16, 2013, 04:06:19 PM
Pro tip: When you use a Special Attacker with a good IV spread, make sure it has 0 IVs in Attack. That way your Pokemon won't hit itself as hard when confused, or when Foul Play is used against you.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on October 16, 2013, 04:23:34 PM
FUCKING SWAGGER Dx
And well tbh I haven't played singles in over a year (because doubles >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> singles) so you should ask Waddle for advice.
Maybe I'll get back into singles, now that the meta won't be full of rain/sand teams.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on October 17, 2013, 02:35:26 PM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on October 16, 2013, 04:06:19 PMPro tip: When you use a Special Attacker with a good IV spread, make sure it has 0 IVs in Attack. That way your Pokemon won't hit itself as hard when confused, or when Foul Play is used against you.
What if you're using HP? :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on October 17, 2013, 02:52:08 PM
Then just don't. Simple as that.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on October 17, 2013, 03:39:57 PM
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on October 17, 2013, 02:35:26 PMWhat if you're using HP? :P

Usually you can get the HP you want with 2 Atk IVs instead of 0. It's feasible!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on October 19, 2013, 04:51:07 PM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on January 05, 2013, 03:13:11 PMIt's the Ruby and Sapphire remakes. It must be. Anyone who disagrees, see that thing up there?

It's called the Logout button.
lol
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 19, 2013, 05:01:33 PM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on January 08, 2013, 11:41:26 AMThe deer (blue Virizion) is supposed to be "Y," as you can see from their colors.

lol
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on October 19, 2013, 05:50:05 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on October 19, 2013, 05:01:33 PMlol
xD
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on October 19, 2013, 08:19:19 PM
Right below that...
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on January 08, 2013, 12:04:16 PMUhhh... ignore my above post; I was confused...

X is the blue one, and Y is the red one. :S
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on October 25, 2013, 01:56:37 AM
QuoteAmaura
Careful Nature
Likes to Fight

HP: 12
Defense: 6
Special Attack: 5
Special Defense: 6
Speed: 6

So If I'm attempting to IV this pokemon, is this a good place to start?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on October 25, 2013, 05:32:06 AM
Are you guys all like pro competitive trainers?  ???
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on October 25, 2013, 06:42:02 AM
I think out of our bunch, I'd classify only me and Roz(and Cobraroll, but he's not that active anymore!) as "pro competitive trainers", since I'd say we know the most about Pokémon, teambuilding, etc. and we battle daily/literally aim to be the best in the world. Maybe Echo too, but I don't know about him that much!!!

The rest of these guys try to improve their skills/try to beat their friends or something.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on October 25, 2013, 08:22:23 AM
Quote from: Yugi on October 25, 2013, 01:56:37 AMSo If I'm attempting to IV this pokemon, is this a good place to start?

Honestly this is hard to tell since stats at lvl 1 means nothing. Your IVs could be anything really. Go ask the IV checker guy and he'll tell you if you have decent IVs or not.

Quote from: Waddle Bro on October 25, 2013, 06:42:02 AMI think out of our bunch, I'd classify only me and Roz(and Cobraroll, but he's not that active anymore!) as "pro competitive trainers", since I'd say we know the most about Pokémon, teambuilding, etc. and we battle daily/literally aim to be the best in the world. Maybe Echo too, but I don't know about him that much!!!

The rest of these guys try to improve their skills/try to beat their friends or something.

We totes need to teambuild together! :D I'm getting back into Singles with Gen 6. I'm so rusty haha
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on October 25, 2013, 01:29:48 PM
Hmmmm  maybe I should find my old flash drive with PO on it...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on October 25, 2013, 03:52:38 PM
So the guy told me that my IVs were "decent" and that my greatest potential was in my speed stat.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on October 25, 2013, 04:02:54 PM
Quote from: Yugi on October 25, 2013, 03:52:38 PMSo the guy told me that my IVs were "decent" and that my greatest potential was in my speed stat.
If you want to see its IVs, level it up in the daycare, make sure it doesn't have any EVs, and input the stats and other relevant information into this IV Calculator (http://www.metalkid.info/Pokemon/Calculators/IV.aspx).
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on October 25, 2013, 04:46:58 PM
So I got a max special attack Amaura.

Should I try to get something better? Or is this good enough.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on October 25, 2013, 06:57:10 PM
Honestly only having one stat with 31 IVs isn't good enough if you want to play competitively.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on October 25, 2013, 11:47:05 PM
^especially consider the weaknesses it has, it needs bulk
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on October 25, 2013, 11:59:57 PM
Glass Cannon?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on October 26, 2013, 08:20:50 AM
It doesn't have enough Speed to be a good glass canon imho. And this thing has base 150 special defence. You should take advantage of that.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on October 29, 2013, 01:07:54 PM
http://espurr.net/
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FireArrow on October 29, 2013, 04:55:05 PM
I'm not even gonna try to watch that.  :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on October 31, 2013, 02:03:00 PM
Got my hands on a legit shiny Milotic with awesome stats on my SoulSilver file.

good day
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on November 01, 2013, 05:36:16 PM
Would a Relaxed Xerneas be usable in the metagame?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on November 01, 2013, 07:26:44 PM
So I want to build a team with:

Mightyena
Sawsbuck
Dragonite
Pyroar
Roserade
Solrock

Any ideas where I got the idea?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on November 02, 2013, 11:03:49 AM
Got nothin.  Unless Mightyena and pyroar are roaring at the Solrock to make the Roserade grow.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on November 02, 2013, 11:16:24 AM
I have to say there should be 7 Pokémon, but I had to leave out one to fit into the 6 threshold.

The 7th Pokémon would've been Tentacreul.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on November 02, 2013, 11:20:58 AM
I have my money on it being a French thing.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on November 02, 2013, 11:27:50 AM
Nope!!

It's Game of Thrones

Mightyena (House Stark)
Sawsbuck (House Baratheon)
Dragonite (House Targaryen)
Pyroar (House Lannister)
Roserade (House Tyrell)
Solrock (House Martell)

Tentacruel (House Greyjoy)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on November 09, 2013, 08:53:44 PM
Spoiler
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi56.servimg.com%2Fu%2Ff56%2F17%2F58%2F66%2F01%2Fmy_fav10.jpg&hash=bf67c7fd26dc67f2431a18074a129c17dbbb78ea) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=290&u=17586601)
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btw fairy is sylveon
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on November 10, 2013, 11:30:02 AM
Yugi I love you
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FireArrow on November 10, 2013, 11:58:25 AM
Quote from: blueflower999 on November 10, 2013, 11:30:02 AMYugi I love you
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on November 11, 2013, 10:36:39 AM
Who's the new Magikarp?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on November 11, 2013, 11:02:20 AM
swirlix
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on November 11, 2013, 11:06:06 AM
Slurpuff is going to dominate the metagame:

Unburden + Sitrus Berry + Belly Drum
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on November 11, 2013, 11:41:00 AM
Quote from: blueflower999 on November 11, 2013, 11:06:06 AMSlurpuff is going to dominate the metagame:

Unburden + Sitrus Berry + Belly Drum
Does it even learn Belly Drum?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on November 11, 2013, 12:57:12 PM
Egg Move from Azumarill.

Yeah, this set definitely gives Slurpuff a nice boost it needed, but all the priority in OU screws it over. Fairy is awesome coverage, but it needs Thief to hit all the Steel roaming around. Possibly an ok late-game sweeper.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on November 15, 2013, 02:06:31 AM
http://sandbox.yoyogames.com/games/158891-pokemon-rpg-rainbow-legends-unite

better than all you're pokemon weboo shit
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on November 15, 2013, 07:18:12 PM
New Poll:

Mewtwo unincluded because of legendary/highest stats

It's the instant winner.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on November 15, 2013, 07:41:34 PM
I would say Gengar, but... (https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7871338240/hF8BB387B/) After using Mega Aerodactyl so much in Y, I have a personal connection to it (:P), but I'm still not sure of its design...

Eh, why not Arm Cannons!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on November 15, 2013, 11:46:59 PM
Gengar all the way.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on November 16, 2013, 08:05:15 AM
Where's Kangaskhan
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DrP on November 16, 2013, 07:08:00 PM
Shit

What are you talking about?? It's always been there!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on November 19, 2013, 11:55:35 PM
run.

Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on November 20, 2013, 06:07:26 AM
DAMN, POKEMON! YOU SCARY!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on November 21, 2013, 11:46:52 AM
So I'm nearly done making a Battle Tower team in Platinum and I need a tank to complement Lead Raikou with Dragon Dance sweeper Gyarados.  All you people with mad skillz please help :)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on November 21, 2013, 12:36:58 PM
omg 4th gen

idk Tyranitar? Or Cresselia, I love that thing.

I won my way through 100 wins with my physically defensive Cresselia, Milotic and Banded Garchomp.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on November 21, 2013, 02:28:06 PM
So in the battle factory they've got this epic win stall Milotic is that the kind you use?
I guess I don't really know how a team comp should work for the battle tower, but so far my Raikou is sweeping everything pretty easily under a Substitute... I only need Gyara to revenge kill if he dies, I'm finding.  So you had a physical tank a special tank and a sweeper?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on December 08, 2013, 01:02:34 PM
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7938307584/h1EB58A57/)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on December 10, 2013, 08:48:54 AM
The Pokémon FireRed and Pokémon LeafGreen soundtrack has just been released on iTunes!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on December 10, 2013, 10:15:04 AM
Spoiler
Quote from: Kman96 on December 08, 2013, 01:02:34 PM(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7938307584/h1EB58A57/)
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Nope.  Mind not blown.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FierceDeity on December 13, 2013, 10:52:20 PM
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on December 10, 2013, 10:15:04 AMNope.  Mind not blown.

Care to elaborate on that, or...?
Because honestly, I found it pretty cool.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on December 14, 2013, 07:09:32 AM
The only thing I understood of that was "Mr. Fuji" because he gives you the poke flute.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on December 14, 2013, 08:49:05 AM
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on December 14, 2013, 07:09:32 AMThe only thing I understood of that was "Mr. Fuji" because he gives you the poke flute.
have you played the 6th gen games yet
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on December 16, 2013, 07:51:32 AM
First 10 episodes of the XY anime just came out dubbed (like literally less than a minute ago an ATV). I'm not too fond of the anime, but just if anyone cares:)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on December 16, 2013, 03:29:06 PM
Quote from: Jompa on December 16, 2013, 07:51:32 AMFirst 10 episodes of the XY anime just came out dubbed (like literally less than a minute ago an ATV). I'm not too fond of the anime, but just if anyone cares:)
i saw the first few. it wasn't that bad, but it's no Origins for sure.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on December 16, 2013, 03:52:20 PM
Can't be as bad as Best Wishes.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on December 16, 2013, 10:24:44 PM
I couldn't finish the first episode even, but it's better than best wishes
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Olimar12345 on December 23, 2013, 04:13:02 PM
I have a PMD question:

Is it called "Pokémon Mystery Dungeon Explorers of Time/Darkness/Sky" or "Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2:Explorers of Time/Darkness/Sky"?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on December 23, 2013, 04:55:56 PM
Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time/Darkness/Sky
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Olimar12345 on December 23, 2013, 05:34:52 PM
Thanks. Now you all may commence with the pokemon chatting.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on December 23, 2013, 05:58:58 PM
Stunfisk is the best pokemon

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.bulbagarden.net%2Fupload%2Fthumb%2Fd%2Fd2%2F618Stunfisk.png%2F250px-618Stunfisk.png&hash=1150cd6c05b0b48bc3fd4ab6b899ada74c3cd578)

I mean, look at that derpy expression, It just screams awesome.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on December 23, 2013, 06:18:40 PM
I've been looking for a shiny Phantump for like, the past 2-3 hours. For a friend.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on December 23, 2013, 07:43:35 PM
Quote from: Yugi on December 23, 2013, 05:58:58 PMStunfisk is the best pokemon

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.bulbagarden.net%2Fupload%2Fthumb%2Fd%2Fd2%2F618Stunfisk.png%2F250px-618Stunfisk.png&hash=1150cd6c05b0b48bc3fd4ab6b899ada74c3cd578)

I mean, look at that derpy expression, It just screams awesome.
*Bows down and worships*
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on December 23, 2013, 07:59:53 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on December 23, 2013, 06:18:40 PMI've been looking for a shiny Phantump for like, the past 2-3 hours. For a friend.

I have 2. Huehuehue
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on December 23, 2013, 08:16:09 PM
rub it in why don't you
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on December 23, 2013, 08:24:46 PM
Could've gave you one but you obviously don't want it so I'll keep it I guess
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on December 23, 2013, 08:39:46 PM
wait wait no i'm sorry

would you actually though? I'd super appreciate it... well my friend would since it'll be his but yeah
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on December 26, 2013, 10:06:41 AM
Genesect+Rotom-W is such an amazing core.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Echo on December 27, 2013, 04:04:27 AM
^ Dat VoltTurn. Don't forget to throw in Landorus-T for VoltTurn Intimidates. ^^
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on December 27, 2013, 01:27:32 PM
Bred my second 5 IV pokemon last night, whoohoo!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on December 29, 2013, 02:36:45 PM
huzzah!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on December 29, 2013, 08:16:31 PM
I decided to get into VGC tier. :3
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on December 30, 2013, 09:04:38 AM
^Yessssssss :3
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on December 30, 2013, 10:46:58 AM
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/vgc2014-73565936

my awesome battle against roz where i got extremely lucky!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on December 30, 2013, 11:52:10 AM
Quote from: Roz~ on December 23, 2013, 07:59:53 PMHuehuehue
Huehuehuehue (http://huehuehuehue.com/)

Please excuse my off-topicness. I couldn't help myself.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on December 30, 2013, 05:32:02 PM
Quote from: K-NiGhT on December 30, 2013, 10:46:58 AMhttp://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/vgc2014-73565936

my awesome battle against roz where i got extremely lucky!

Yeah, ps sucks
I really was gonna protect with Trevenant instead of ttar but the cancel button said nope.jpg
I guess that's what's so bad with ps. They have a cancel button that never works.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Echo on January 04, 2014, 12:04:22 AM
Found some neat old-school alternate Sugimori artwork:
http://imgur.com/a/usM2N

Some are pretty interesting, like Pinsir.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on January 04, 2014, 12:09:27 AM
Quote from: Echo on January 04, 2014, 12:04:22 AMFound some neat old-school alternate Sugimori artwork:
http://imgur.com/a/usM2N

Some are pretty interesting, like Pinsir.
the cubone picture definitely supports the whole Kangaskhan evo theory. Just looking at the bottom of the head, I could tell they were extremely similar.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 04, 2014, 12:16:02 AM
Quote from: K-NiGhT on January 04, 2014, 12:09:27 AMthe cubone picture definitely supports the whole Kangaskhan evo theory. Just looking at the bottom of the head, I could tell they were extremely similar.
Perhaps they originally intended that to be true, but as time went on, tried to distance themselves from that? :P

Also:
Caterpie be trippin (and Metapod/Butterfree are feeling the effects of it).
Weedle be trippin (and Kakuna/Beedrill still are).

...on second though, most of those look like they're trippin (both definitions :P). Some of their poses are really cool, though.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FierceDeity on January 04, 2014, 12:26:39 AM
Ponyta's is, like, infinitely cooler than rapidash's.
Also, jesus christ, why do Arbok, Nidorina, Wigglytuff, Parasect, Kadabra, Tentacruel (i've seen enough hentai...), Dewgong, Krabby, Exeggutor, Tangela, and Tauros gotta be such dicks to everyone? Especially to psyduck, I mean, shit.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on January 04, 2014, 02:20:14 PM
Quote from: K-NiGhT on January 04, 2014, 12:09:27 AMthe cubone picture definitely supports the whole Kangaskhan evo theory. Just looking at the bottom of the head, I could tell they were extremely similar.
cubone is jesus in purgatory
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on January 04, 2014, 02:36:05 PM
Quote from: FierceDeity on January 04, 2014, 12:26:39 AMEspecially to psyduck, I mean, shit.
Yeah and diglet! He even got stepped on
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FireArrow on January 04, 2014, 05:48:30 PM
lol weepinbell
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on January 07, 2014, 05:16:56 AM
rumors* begin to circulate for plus and minus versions, based on Southeast Asia, theme is old tradition vs new exploration
villains and your friend
The new "Team" villains are described as a bunch of "Sohei Zelots"-types who have discovered the player's best friend as a reincarnation of a special type of person who only is alive every 100 years. They believe the old system where people were given a Pokemon egg and they stick to that Pokemon until they die and who's function in society dictate what role that person is. They are against the "modern" trend of Pokemon Trainers and capturing multiple Pokemon and are making a holy pilgrimage to evoke the old Legendaries to turn everything back to normal. They keep the player away from their friend, saying the special one (who can do amazing things like mega evolve Pokemon without the use of a mega ring) only love is that of Pokemon and not people. It is planned to be reveal later that for the special one to fulfill their role in society they must be mortally sacrificed to awaken the legendaries.
[close]
starter and legendary typings
water/steel, fire/fairy, grass/electric, plus=psychic/ground, minus=ghost/fairy
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*"A source that Dual Pixels has taken information from in the past, Geno, has claimed to have received information on the next Pokemon games.... This comes from the same guy who leaked Castlevania: Mirrors of Fate being console bound, the Kingdom Hearts HD Remix, and countless information on E3. Not all of his rumors have come true. Despite this, a large amount of key ones have such as our leak about first and third party titles for E3 2013...."
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on January 07, 2014, 05:26:04 AM
Spoiler
Grass/Electric damn
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I don't believe this to be true tho
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on January 07, 2014, 10:45:53 AM
I'm taking this with the biggest grain of salt possible.

I also don't believe a word of it, but eh.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 07, 2014, 12:54:55 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on January 07, 2014, 10:45:53 AMI'm taking this with the biggest grain of salt possible.

I also don't believe a word of it, but eh.
It does seem a bit early to even have that many details of the next generation planned out... sad, though: that plot does seem rather interesting.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on January 07, 2014, 01:16:55 PM
Yeah, as of tomorrow it will have been 1 year since X and Y were even announced...

This sounds like a major hoax.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on January 07, 2014, 01:29:37 PM
The plot sounds way too dark for a Pokemon game. I'm not buying it.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on January 07, 2014, 01:32:58 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on January 07, 2014, 01:29:37 PMThe plot sounds way too dark for a Pokemon game. I'm not buying it.
qft
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Echo on January 07, 2014, 04:26:03 PM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on January 07, 2014, 12:54:55 PMIt does seem a bit early to even have that many details of the next generation planned out... sad, though: that plot does seem rather interesting.

If any of this is true, I was thinking it'd be the same generation, just the "second half" of it. Like, X/Y is the first half of the new generation, and the new versions would be an expansion of it. Only reason I'm thinking this is because of that Hitchhiker who gives you the Strange Souvenir, and his stories of another region and stuff.

Quote from: Nebbles on January 07, 2014, 01:29:37 PMThe plot sounds way too dark for a Pokemon game. I'm not buying it.

X/Y spoilers
X/Y was all about a mass genocide with Pokemon sacrifices. >_>
[close]

Quote from: Waddle Bro on January 07, 2014, 05:26:04 AM
Spoiler
Grass/Electric damn
[close]
I don't believe this to be true tho

Spoiler
The Lawn Mower's enough for me.
[close]
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on January 07, 2014, 04:48:42 PM
...even so, I still don't believe it.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on January 07, 2014, 05:29:51 PM
Eh what the hell. I'll buy it. It seems realistic enough.

Imagine if Plusle was exclusive to Minus and Minun was exclusive to Plus.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Olimar12345 on January 07, 2014, 06:26:18 PM
Apparently Kageyama Shota is leaving GameFreak. (http://www.destructoid.com/pokemon-x-y-s-composer-leaves-game-freak-268552.phtml)

In before Slow, surprisingly. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on January 07, 2014, 06:34:11 PM
Huh. Good for him, he's a really hardworking guy with a lot of talent. I find him to be the weakest composer of Pokemon games though.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on January 07, 2014, 09:21:52 PM
Quote from: Echo on January 07, 2014, 04:26:03 PM
Spoiler
The Lawn Mower's enough for me.
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Considering it only gets Leaf Storm as a Grass STAB, no, it isn't.
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Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Echo on January 08, 2014, 08:04:18 AM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on January 07, 2014, 09:21:52 PM
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Considering it only gets Leaf Storm as a Grass STAB, no, it isn't.
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Eh, I just use Mow-tom as a Volt Switcher who can nuke Ground-types anyway (especially those annoying Water/Ground types), so Leaf Storm's fine for me. Rather than better STAB moves, I'd be more interested in combining Volt Switch with supporting moves like Leech Seed/Sleep Powder, so that you could force switches with Seed/Powder and then take advantage of that with a Volt Switch.

I guess Petal Blizzard/Discharge could be cool for doubles since you could cover either Ground or Flying resists with the other move, and Wood Hammer/Wild Charge would be funny on a Reckless Pokemon, but I don't really care for Electric/Grass offensively just because it's kinda redundant.
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Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on January 08, 2014, 10:17:47 AM
I'm honestly fine with any types, as long as the starters have cute or cool designs. Chespin, Quilladin, and Chesnaught was my favorite line in Gen VI since all three had good designs, and Froakie looked cool after it evolved, but in my opinion Fennekin's evolutions were sort of a miss. I think it was a very unique way to go with the Fire starter, and I love that they did something different, but I think ultimately it's a pretty disappointing starter. I'll never be using Delphox in-game.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on January 08, 2014, 01:42:07 PM
Quote from: Echo on January 08, 2014, 08:04:18 AM
Spoiler
Eh, I just use Mow-tom as a Volt Switcher who can nuke Ground-types anyway (especially those annoying Water/Ground types), so Leaf Storm's fine for me. Rather than better STAB moves, I'd be more interested in combining Volt Switch with supporting moves like Leech Seed/Sleep Powder, so that you could force switches with Seed/Powder and then take advantage of that with a Volt Switch.

I guess Petal Blizzard/Discharge could be cool for doubles since you could cover either Ground or Flying resists with the other move, and Wood Hammer/Wild Charge would be funny on a Reckless Pokemon, but I don't really care for Electric/Grass offensively just because it's kinda redundant.
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I'd just like a Grass-move that doesn't make you a set-up fodder after a wrong prediction. Like Energy Ball.
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Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 08, 2014, 01:48:51 PM
Quote from: Echo on January 07, 2014, 04:26:03 PMIf any of this is true, I was thinking it'd be the same generation, just the "second half" of it. Like, X/Y is the first half of the new generation, and the new versions would be an expansion of it. Only reason I'm thinking this is because of that Hitchhiker who gives you the Strange Souvenir, and his stories of another region and stuff.
If they're introducing new Pokémon and new starters, it likely wouldn't be the same gen. Unless they'd want to really change the formula. :o
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on January 08, 2014, 01:51:19 PM
It's been one year since Pokemon X/Y was announced!!!! :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Wrydryn on January 11, 2014, 01:22:57 PM
So guys, I have an entire box full of Chikoritas! Let me know if you want one.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Dude on January 11, 2014, 01:25:37 PM
whirrrrrrrrr!!!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on February 04, 2014, 11:31:51 PM
So I got my Celebi before the rest of you.

Am I not superior?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on February 05, 2014, 12:39:21 PM
I can finally transfer over my gen 5 mons... I'm so happy.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on February 15, 2014, 04:42:07 PM
http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Trailer_of_Diancie_in_Pok%C3%A9mon_X_and_Y_released

So Carbink has a point now?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on February 15, 2014, 05:22:12 PM
Hurrah, it's about time.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on February 19, 2014, 07:01:25 PM
http://pokemon.alexonsager.net/104/88

Yeah, I don't know.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on February 19, 2014, 08:00:16 PM
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi56.servimg.com%2Fu%2Ff56%2F17%2F58%2F66%2F01%2Ffaeto10.png&hash=dc30d862767f9155dc45dd95a0eefce93c517c25) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=316&u=17586601)

Can someone change my nickname to Farto?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on February 19, 2014, 08:19:55 PM
NO YUGI NO.

Also:
http://pokemon.alexonsager.net/140/150
http://pokemon.alexonsager.net/124/150
http://pokemon.alexonsager.net/122/151
http://pokemon.alexonsager.net/81/150
http://pokemon.alexonsager.net/71/150
http://pokemon.alexonsager.net/142/68
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on February 20, 2014, 10:43:56 AM
try putting Shellder's face on stuff (http://pokemon.alexonsager.net/90/141)

EDIT: or Vileplume's... (http://pokemon.alexonsager.net/45/125)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Dude on February 20, 2014, 11:58:47 AM
http://pokemon.alexonsager.net/140/124

This is absolutely terrifying.

http://pokemon.alexonsager.net/94/7

HOW IS THIS GENTLE
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on February 20, 2014, 12:59:46 PM
QuoteCan someone change my nickname to Farto?
I'm serious about this.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on February 20, 2014, 02:13:09 PM
Quote from: Dude on February 20, 2014, 11:58:47 AMhttp://pokemon.alexonsager.net/94/7

HOW IS THIS GENTLE
O_O
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on February 20, 2014, 02:24:30 PM
Quote from: Dude on February 20, 2014, 11:58:47 AMhttp://pokemon.alexonsager.net/140/124

This is absolutely terrifying.

http://pokemon.alexonsager.net/94/7

HOW IS THIS GENTLE

Even better http://pokemon.alexonsager.net/94/92
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on February 20, 2014, 02:44:49 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on February 20, 2014, 02:24:30 PMEven better http://pokemon.alexonsager.net/94/92
It looks like a gastly from gen 1 or 2...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on February 20, 2014, 02:57:49 PM
http://pokemon.alexonsager.net/100/133

this is terrifying
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on February 20, 2014, 03:12:25 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on February 20, 2014, 02:57:49 PMhttp://pokemon.alexonsager.net/100/133

this is terrifying
turns a light into a smile
yikes
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on February 20, 2014, 03:17:55 PM
http://pokemon.alexonsager.net/49/113

putting Venomoth's face on anything makes it super-scary
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on February 20, 2014, 03:27:40 PM
http://pokemon.alexonsager.net/103/65

I CAN'T STOP LAUGHING FUCK
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: fingerz on February 20, 2014, 05:31:41 PM
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F0-media-cdn.foolz.us%2Fffuuka%2Fboard%2Fvp%2Fimage%2F1384%2F23%2F1384230726698.gif&hash=4e5e4955944c56597824a9145985c5960bfffd41)

I couldn't stop laughing when I evolved my Tyrogue into this... When did Hitmontop learn to dance? XDDD
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on February 20, 2014, 06:42:56 PM
Completed the National Pokedex and got the Shiny Charm!!! :D

Thanks to Nebbles, Fingerz, and Echo for trading me the legendaries that I didn't have! You guys are awesome!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on February 20, 2014, 06:44:29 PM
Quote from: blueflower999 on February 20, 2014, 06:42:56 PMCompleted the National Pokedex and got the Shiny Charm!!! :D

Thanks to Fingerz and Echo for trading me the legendaries that I didn't have! You guys are awesome!

Congrats!!! I know you've been working hard on that haha.

It's actually a pretty astounding feat when you think about it xD
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on February 20, 2014, 06:45:06 PM
Now I just need a shiny Stunfisk and my life will be complete
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: fingerz on February 20, 2014, 07:00:00 PM
You're welcome, Blue! Now we just have to wait 'til #719, #720 and #721 to come out and we've literally got 'em all. ;)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on February 23, 2014, 12:04:12 PM
I've been thinking about breaking down and just completing the Pokedex, but I feel like it'd take forever.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on February 23, 2014, 01:45:29 PM
It does take a while, but you have us to help you out! Pokebank + GTS trades help out a bit too.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on February 24, 2014, 06:55:53 AM
Verlisify is a fucking idiot who doesn't know how to play well.

"Evasion is just a superior strategy", "Slurpuff walls Mega Kangaskhan", "don't let anything set up(that's the counter)", "Tiers limit creativity", "Sash Talonflame"

That is all. Smogon is there for a reason.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on February 24, 2014, 11:50:56 AM
Never heard of him

I don't like Smogon because what they have doesn't make sense to me (especially natures).
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Dude on February 24, 2014, 12:04:13 PM
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on February 24, 2014, 11:50:56 AMI don't like Smogon because what they have doesn't make sense to me (especially natures).
lol
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on February 24, 2014, 12:45:57 PM
"doesn't make sense"??? it's not too difficult to understand

Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on February 24, 2014, 01:06:00 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on February 24, 2014, 12:45:57 PM"doesn't make sense"??? it's not too difficult to understand
Well like why would you use a jolly nature when they need special attack?  Like on their Raikou builds.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Dude on February 24, 2014, 01:49:00 PM
where the hell are you getting that?

I only see timid in their sets.

http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/raikou
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on February 24, 2014, 02:01:36 PM
Yeah I was thinking "why the hell would they do that" anyone who does that doesn't know how to raise a Raikou.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on February 24, 2014, 02:02:44 PM
There are too many natures :/
I think all I've got down then are modest and adamant.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on February 24, 2014, 02:04:47 PM
It's not that hard to learn them. If you catch a pokemon, look closely at its status. The raised nature is in red, and the lowered one in blue. If nothing's highlighted, it's neutral.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on February 24, 2014, 02:11:56 PM
Um I'm 100% sure it doesn't do that.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Dude on February 24, 2014, 02:15:06 PM
B2W2 and Gen VI have it for sure, I'm not sure about BW or earlier though.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on February 24, 2014, 02:18:08 PM
They've done that in every game starting with HeartGold/SoulSilver.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on February 24, 2014, 02:31:05 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on February 24, 2014, 02:18:08 PMThey've done that in every game starting with HeartGold/SoulSilver.
That would explain a lot.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on February 25, 2014, 02:56:26 PM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on February 24, 2014, 06:55:53 AMVerlisify is a fucking idiot who doesn't know how to play well.

"Evasion is just a superior strategy", "Slurpuff walls Mega Kangaskhan", "don't let anything set up(that's the counter)", "Tiers limit creativity", "Sash Talonflame"

That is all. Smogon is there for a reason.

Amen. I sure enjoyed watching all the drama unfold
Did you see the video where he claims he won/went undefeated to a regionals tournament with a Minimize/Stockpile/Baton Pass team, when in fact he did poorly and he lost a couple of games to the timer? Also Cybertron's video on Verlisify was pretty good. And yeah, I lol'd hard @ Slurpuff and Sash Talonflame. This guy is just a casual player looking for attention.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on February 25, 2014, 08:16:47 PM
i assume that by verlisify you mean darksydephil
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on February 25, 2014, 09:26:40 PM
I just watched Spade's interview, since I didn't bother wasting my time to finish listening the other videos =P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on February 25, 2014, 10:34:28 PM
I'd watch it, but it's an hour+ long and listening to Verlisify's "arguments" for over an hour... no thanks =P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: fingerz on February 27, 2014, 04:37:52 PM
...Don't kill me, but I don't even see how people can even enjoy a Pokemon battle that requires brain strategy. Seriously, where's the fun in attempting to take someone down in an hour because you've set up some super-complicated trap? Personally, I just create the strongest possible team with a fabulously creative moveset and destroy everyone before they have a chance to even set anything up. That's fun. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on February 27, 2014, 06:06:14 PM
It's the difference between playing a game of chess with normal setup and pieces and playing a game of chess where every piece moves like a Queen.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: fingerz on February 27, 2014, 06:12:19 PM
See, I never got into chess. But moving every piece like a Queen would be so much fun! :D

Well, whatever works! It just bores me, though. Why on earth would you put that much time into making something that's not always gonna work. At least you'll die quickly if your powerhouse team isn't very effective. ;)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on February 27, 2014, 06:30:07 PM
Well hey, competitive battling isn't everyone's cup of tea. No biggie, you like what you like.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on February 27, 2014, 09:47:26 PM
Quote from: fingerz on February 27, 2014, 06:12:19 PMSee, I never got into chess. But moving every piece like a Queen would be so much fun! :D

Well, whatever works! It just bores me, though. Why on earth would you put that much time into making something that's not always gonna work. At least you'll die quickly if your powerhouse team isn't very effective. ;)

To me, what's fun is all the mindgames that come with competitive battling. Then again I play doubles, where predictions are much more important than they are in singles. It's just pretty fun to try and outplay your opponent with a team you've worked so hard to make work.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on February 27, 2014, 10:16:57 PM
Agreed. Managing to out-predict your opponent is really fun.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on February 28, 2014, 05:31:49 AM
When you make a legitimate over-over-overprediction, you can feel yourself alive.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on March 03, 2014, 02:35:24 PM
All I need to know can we use the Eviolite

(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/8087813376/h5BA65B21/)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on March 03, 2014, 02:44:57 PM
Woah. If that's true, that will be very interesting.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on March 03, 2014, 02:55:08 PM
It is true.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on March 03, 2014, 04:39:35 PM
I'm bored in Pokemon Y at the moment and I'm not sure what Pokemon I want to breed next...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on March 03, 2014, 05:29:11 PM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on March 03, 2014, 02:55:08 PMIt is true.

I think it's gonna be like the Spiky-Eared Pichu and it won't be able to evolve, so I'm pretty sure you can't slap an eviolite on it.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Echo on March 03, 2014, 10:12:18 PM
It can't use Eviolite. Which is dumb, since you can still use Eviolite on stuff like Male Combee and Level 100 Pidgey.

Still looks sweet though. Here's what Light of Ruin looks like btw:
http://youtu.be/HA1CZsm2--s?t=1m14s
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on March 04, 2014, 01:04:25 PM
...you can use Eviolite on Male Combee? Why? It doesn't evolve...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on March 04, 2014, 01:32:33 PM
Doesn't male combee evolve into Mothim?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on March 04, 2014, 01:36:10 PM
Nooooo... that's Burmy.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on March 04, 2014, 01:39:31 PM
Oh right.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: braix on March 04, 2014, 01:40:34 PM
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on March 04, 2014, 01:32:33 PMDoesn't male combee evolve into Mothim?
Only female Combees can evolve into Vespiqueens.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on March 04, 2014, 01:52:14 PM
Quote from: zoroark1264 on March 04, 2014, 01:40:34 PMOnly female Combees can evolve into Vespiqueens.
There are also female Mr. Mimes.

I think it's just to reflect real-life bees, but then again, I much would have preferred that it just be an all-female species. :P The frustrating of catching a female Combee...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on March 04, 2014, 02:09:59 PM
Okay so I don't know much about 4th gen and beyond
but anything earlier and you can AMA
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on March 04, 2014, 02:29:22 PM
I'm sorry, but I greatly lack respect for people that try to talk about Pokemon but don't know Pokemon.  :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FierceDeity on March 04, 2014, 02:39:37 PM
Quote from: blueflower999 on March 04, 2014, 02:29:22 PMI'm sorry, but I greatly lack respect for people that try to talk about Pokemon but don't know Pokemon.  :P

omg guys i got a shiny gyarados, so rare
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Dude on March 04, 2014, 02:41:04 PM
AMA? wuzzat?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on March 04, 2014, 02:42:29 PM
Quote from: FierceDeity on March 04, 2014, 02:39:37 PMomg guys i got a shiny gyarados, so rare
lolz my level 76 Charizard will sweep your whole team!!1!1!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on March 04, 2014, 03:01:59 PM
Quote from: Dude on March 04, 2014, 02:41:04 PMAMA? wuzzat?
ask me anything
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: braix on March 04, 2014, 04:00:41 PM
Lol its funny all I know is Gen.3, Gen.4(favorite omg), and Gen.5.
Any other games, I've not had the chance to play.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on March 04, 2014, 05:27:28 PM
Quote from: zoroark1264 on March 04, 2014, 04:00:41 PMLol its funny all I know is Gen.3, Gen.4(favorite omg), and Gen.5.
Any other games, I've not had the chance to play.
Gen 3 > Gen 4+2
Gen 3 > Gen 1
Gen 3 >>>>>>>> Gen 5xGen 6
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on March 04, 2014, 05:28:24 PM
My personal favorites are 3, 4, and 5.

Kalos was massively underwhelming for me. I expected more.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on March 04, 2014, 06:26:59 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on March 04, 2014, 05:28:24 PMMy personal favorites are 3, 4, and 5.

Kalos was massively underwhelming for me. I expected more.
The names Black and White were underwhelming for me.
No gemstone no deal.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: braix on March 04, 2014, 06:41:58 PM
I loveddd 4
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on March 04, 2014, 06:54:48 PM
2 > 5 > 4 > 6 > 1 > 3

I guess this is how I'd rank the games. I'm not too sure about the last three rankings, though.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on March 04, 2014, 07:03:58 PM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on March 04, 2014, 06:54:48 PM2 > 5 > 4 > 6 > 1 > 3

I guess this is how I'd rank the games. I'm not too sure about the last three rankings, though.
You've been blacklisted.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on March 04, 2014, 07:06:26 PM
All Gens are fantastic.

But my favorite is 5.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on March 04, 2014, 07:28:49 PM
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on March 04, 2014, 07:03:58 PMYou've been blacklisted.
I dunno... I mean, I enjoyed Gen 3 (and have the most hours played on Emerald), but whenever I look back on it, it (along with Gen 1) seem to have aged the worst somehow.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on March 04, 2014, 08:18:12 PM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on March 04, 2014, 07:28:49 PMI dunno... I mean, I enjoyed Gen 3 (and have the most hours played on Emerald), but whenever I look back on it, it (along with Gen 1) seem to have aged the worst somehow.
How is Emerald not the most enjoyable Pokémon game you've ever played?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on March 04, 2014, 08:26:34 PM
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on March 04, 2014, 08:18:12 PMHow is Emerald not the most enjoyable Pokémon game you've ever played?
Other generations I've played have kind of overshadowed it in terms of enjoyability.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on March 04, 2014, 08:34:12 PM
Oh, no! People have different opinions than me! How dare they!

Like dude, Hoenn's my favorite, but I respect your opinion. As long as you don't go around bashing it blindly, why should I care?

I plan to replay gen 5 soon, since I'm almost finished this Platinum run... even if I'm going to waste tons of time in the battle frontier.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FierceDeity on March 04, 2014, 08:43:15 PM
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on March 04, 2014, 05:27:28 PMGen 3 >>>>>>>> Gen 5xGen 6

why are you saying this, you literally just said you don't know much about them

Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on March 04, 2014, 06:26:59 PMThe names Black and White were underwhelming for me.
No gemstone no deal.

this is a very interesting rating system... especially seeing as it alienates all but two generations...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on March 04, 2014, 09:43:01 PM
Quote from: blueflower999 on March 04, 2014, 02:42:29 PMlolz my level 76 Charizard will sweep your whole team!!1!1!
But Charizard is actually useful in compeditive play now?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on March 04, 2014, 10:11:40 PM
Even so, people swear on Charizard as the best Pokemon ever.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Clanker37 on March 05, 2014, 01:29:33 AM
Quote from: Nebbles on March 04, 2014, 08:34:12 PMOh, no! People have different opinions than me! How dare they!
This so much.

Gen 3 is the best imo. I guess I might be a bit blinded by nostalgia since it was my first gen.

I guess I'm silly Gen Thweeier
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on March 05, 2014, 08:02:52 AM
Quote from: Clanker37 on March 05, 2014, 01:29:33 AMThis so much.

Gen 3 is the best imo. I guess I might be a bit blinded by nostalgia since it was my first gen.

I guess I'm silly Gen Thweeier
:)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on March 05, 2014, 10:34:12 AM
I absolutely love X and Y for all the improvements they made to competitive battling. Best generation in that sense.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Dude on March 05, 2014, 11:01:41 AM
I personally think 2 and 6 are the best generations.

Well, more 2 than 6 because there was a ton more exploration.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on March 05, 2014, 12:54:54 PM
I like gens 3 and 4 a lot because there's an actual post game (in Emerald and Platinum at least) that isn't boring/doesn't suck.

Gen 6 made competitive battling a dream, yeah, but lol what's a post game
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: braix on March 05, 2014, 01:53:19 PM
I haven't played X or Y yet, but I hope I'm not the only person that misses the old 'lil chibi sprites...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on March 05, 2014, 01:55:41 PM
The moving sprites from Gen 5 were very much needed and the 3D models from Gen 6 are fantastic.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Echo on March 05, 2014, 04:48:05 PM
My fave gens:
Single-player - Gen 5
Competitive Singles - Gen 3 for most balanced, Gen 1 for most broken
Competitive Doubles - Tied between Gen 6 and Gen 5 (miss the weather and gems)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: fingerz on March 05, 2014, 05:00:56 PM
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on March 04, 2014, 08:18:12 PMHow is Emerald not the most enjoyable Pokémon game you've ever played?
I agree. There is no other Pokemon game I have received the same amount of satisfaction from. There is NO other Pokemon game that requires you to infiltrate TWO different Team Bases in order to save the world. Seriously, that game was godly. I hope that when they do a remake, it's an Emerald remake, not Ruby/Sapphire. :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: EFitTrainr on March 05, 2014, 06:27:10 PM
Leave it to a smogoning-jerk to take all the fun out of battling.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on March 05, 2014, 06:44:43 PM
Quote from: fingerz on March 05, 2014, 05:00:56 PMI hope that when they do a remake, it's an Emerald remake, not Ruby/Sapphire. :D
That, I can agree with. The third version is (usually) always the best; or, as with HeartGold and SoulSilver, they could adapt certain elements of Emerald into Ruby/Sapphire.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FierceDeity on March 05, 2014, 07:21:46 PM
Idk whether or not they're doing a remake (have they announced it yet?), but it definitely won't have as much incentive as fire red/leaf green or heart gold/soul silver, seeing as you can already transfer your pokemon from third gen games. Sure, there are definitely some major improvements made with the remakes, but the main incentive for most people, other than being able to transfer pokemon from that gen, is nostalgia, and for that I can just go play my old games...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on March 05, 2014, 07:37:52 PM
No word on an RSE remake of any such, but we'll see. It's possible to transfer Pokemon, but it's time consuming a bit... but thing is, people would buy it. And the younger generation never played them, so it'd offer them to experience gen 3 as well.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on March 05, 2014, 08:10:36 PM
Quote from: shadowkirby on March 05, 2014, 06:27:10 PMLeave it to a smogoning-jerk to take all the fun out of battling.
is SMOGON ruining the METAGAME???
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on March 05, 2014, 08:17:03 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on March 05, 2014, 07:37:52 PMNo word on an RSE remake of any such, but we'll see. It's possible to transfer Pokemon, but it's time consuming a bit... but thing is, people would buy it. And the younger generation never played them, so it'd offer them to experience gen 3 as well.
Aren't we the younger generation?
I thought the older generation was the people who played R/B and were done
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FierceDeity on March 05, 2014, 08:21:31 PM
Let's be cautious with the word "we" here haha, I grew up with RBY and kept playing...

But yeah, people would definitely buy the remake, I'm just saying there's less incentive than there was with the other ones.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on March 05, 2014, 08:30:37 PM
Erm, newer. hurr i can tell time

I mean, I'm a sucker for Hoenn, I'd buy it. But I think they'd have to do sequels? If they did that instead, it'd creative heavy incentive because it's different.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on March 06, 2014, 06:16:50 AM
3D HOENN GIMME
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on March 06, 2014, 06:20:13 AM
I'd sell my soul for a 3D Hoenn. And remastered Hoenn music.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on March 06, 2014, 06:20:49 AM
I don't have a 3DS
could they sell it for NDS? >.>
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on March 06, 2014, 06:42:35 AM
Never gonna happen, they'll encourage you to buy a 3DS
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on March 06, 2014, 12:29:46 PM
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on March 06, 2014, 06:20:49 AMI don't have a 3DS
could they sell it for NDS? >.>
How about we start being a bit realistic here :P

The 3DS has been out for almost three years now.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Dude on March 06, 2014, 01:08:08 PM
Plus the WFC is going away, so yeah, get a 3ds.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on March 06, 2014, 01:57:10 PM
Quote from: blueflower999 on March 06, 2014, 12:29:46 PMHow about we start being a bit realistic here :P

The 3DS has been out for almost three years now.
Has it really been that long... O_O

Getting a 3DS is a great thing to do; aside from Pokémon games, you have numerous other wonderful games!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on March 06, 2014, 02:05:35 PM
Yeah, they're getting rid of the NDS wifi come May 20th. So it's really in your best interest to get a 3DS. If the 3DS is too pricey for you, the 2DS is an option.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on March 06, 2014, 08:48:53 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on March 04, 2014, 05:28:24 PMKalos was massively underwhelming for me. I expected more.

It's not often that I get to say this, but I totally agree with Nebbles.

Don't get me wrong here--Pokemon is Pokemon is Pokemon, and Pokemon is fantastic. So I didn't dislike Pokemon X and Y. But I didn't get very much lasting satisfaction from it, either.

I'm gonna have to rant a bit here; I apologize. I don't know about anyone else, but playing through Pokemon Black and White, and Pokemon Black 2 and White 2, really invoked memories of why I started to love Pokemon in the first place. Everything felt magical and beautiful again.

Pokemon X just didn't do that for me. I can't argue that it isn't the best-looking Pokemon to date. But I can argue that its charm feels shallow and doesn't really resonate with me personally. The graphics are of a technical quality that's above and beyond Pokemon Black and White, but they don't feel quite as immersing to me.

And I could go on about all the nitpicky problems I have with Pokemon X. The game feels saturated with older Pokemon. The newer Pokemon that are there are something of a mixed bag--I love some of them and I hate some of them, but more offensive than the ones I hate are the ones that are just sort of there, forgettable and awkward. And I mean it's not like I'm hellbent on not liking new Pokemon; no one was more eager to rush out to the store and buy Pokemon X than I was.

Don't bash me for this, please. Pokemon X and Y seems to have hit all the right chords with just about everyone, and that's great--seriously, I'm really happy that Game Freak is making a comeback with the masses after a lot of folks skipped out on the fifth generation. It just felt almost like a knockoff Pokemon game to me--it was almost a chore to play, and that's something that I never thought I would say about any Pokemon game.

In other breaking news, it actually makes no sense to bash games you haven't played, so I'd recommend not doing that from now on Nocturne
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on March 06, 2014, 09:59:14 PM
Heck, I agree with you too! Adding too many old Pokemon made it felt weird - they kinda shoehorned in the Kalos Pokemon and was like "yeah look we added new ones see". With a small Pokedex, less than 100, it didn't feel very new. Which, you know, they'd think to do for a brand new game.

I hope the next installments are better...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on March 07, 2014, 06:03:53 AM
Slow, there are certain games I won't play because of their terrible appeal.
When my friend started telling me about the new pokemon games back in 8th grade I said that was kinda dumb and I wouldn't play it.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on March 07, 2014, 06:06:33 AM
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on March 07, 2014, 06:03:53 AMSlow, there are certain games I won't play because of their terrible appeal.

I understand this statement but I don't see what it has to do with new Pokémon games???
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on March 07, 2014, 06:14:45 AM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on March 07, 2014, 06:06:33 AMI understand this statement but I don't see what it has to do with new Pokémon games???
The thing that irked me about black and white was it seemed Nintendo just wanted to spit out 150 new pokemon to say "hey we've got a ton more cool ones for you" when to be honest most of them didn't seem to have any effort put in them at all.  There was also the fact that you couldn't find any pokemon NOT just created.  I know this was alleviated in B2W2 but by then I was already biased against it. (mandibuzz, sounds like a bug type, nope!  It's a bird!)

As for X and Y they seem more like My Sims games at first glance.  They added one of the stupidest types ever, right near the Dark type.  They gave eevee ANOTHER evolution because he totally needed one.  Yeah.  Because 3 weren't unique enough.  And they still didn't try on the new pokemon.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on March 07, 2014, 06:28:12 AM
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on March 07, 2014, 06:14:45 AMThe thing that irked me about black and white was it seemed Nintendo just wanted to spit out 150 new pokemon to say "hey we've got a ton more cool ones for you" when to be honest most of them didn't seem to have any effort put in them at all.  There was also the fact that you couldn't find any pokemon NOT just created.  I know this was alleviated in B2W2 but by then I was already biased against it. (mandibuzz, sounds like a bug type, nope!  It's a bird!)

As for X and Y they seem more like My Sims games at first glance.  They added one of the stupidest types ever, right near the Dark type.  They gave eevee ANOTHER evolution because he totally needed one.  Yeah.  Because 3 weren't unique enough.  And they still didn't try on the new pokemon.

There is so much ridiculousness here that I really can't bring myself respond to it, except to tell you that it's Game Freak who develops Pokemon games, not Nintendo.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on March 07, 2014, 06:35:44 AM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on March 07, 2014, 06:28:12 AMThere is so much ridiculousness here that I really can't bring myself respond to it, except to tell you that it's Game Freak who develops Pokemon games, not Nintendo.
k then
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Dude on March 07, 2014, 07:16:40 AM
Mandible+Buzzard=mandibuzz

way to go genius
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on March 07, 2014, 07:35:44 AM
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on March 07, 2014, 06:14:45 AMThe thing that irked me about black and white was it seemed Nintendo just wanted to spit out 150 new pokemon to say "hey we've got a ton more cool ones for you" when to be honest most of them didn't seem to have any effort put in them at all.  There was also the fact that you couldn't find any pokemon NOT just created.  I know this was alleviated in B2W2 but by then I was already biased against it. (mandibuzz, sounds like a bug type, nope!  It's a bird!)

As for X and Y they seem more like My Sims games at first glance.  They added one of the stupidest types ever, right near the Dark type.  They gave eevee ANOTHER evolution because he totally needed one.  Yeah.  Because 3 weren't unique enough.  And they still didn't try on the new pokemon.
except for the madibuzz statement, I agree pretty hard with this.
But all you're talking about is the "first glance", and I who've played them, know that there's more to the games than the appeal of the front cover.



My opinion about the generations: 3rd is the best. I like to think that the rest could might as well not even exist and I would still love pokémon equally as much. You could say my love for Pokémon is solely generation 3's work.
After that it's 1>6>5>2>4. The generation I didn't play too much off was gen 2, so I'm just not as into it.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on March 07, 2014, 07:44:25 AM
For me, it was 3>2>6>1>5>4

Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on March 07, 2014, 06:14:45 AMThe thing that irked me about black and white was it seemed Nintendo just wanted to spit out 150 new pokemon to say "hey we've got a ton more cool ones for you" when to be honest most of them didn't seem to have any effort put in them at all.  There was also the fact that you couldn't find any pokemon NOT just created.  I know this was alleviated in B2W2 but by then I was already biased against it. (mandibuzz, sounds like a bug type, nope!  It's a bird!)

As for X and Y they seem more like My Sims games at first glance.  They added one of the stupidest types ever, right near the Dark type.  They gave eevee ANOTHER evolution because he totally needed one.  Yeah.  Because 3 weren't unique enough.  And they still didn't try on the new pokemon.

wow, way to make completely unfounded statements on games you've never played. you, sir, are the literal definition of a genwunner.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on March 07, 2014, 08:26:22 AM
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on March 07, 2014, 06:14:45 AMThe thing that irked me about black and white was it seemed Nintendo just wanted to spit out 150 new pokemon to say "hey we've got a ton more cool ones for you" when to be honest most of them didn't seem to have any effort put in them at all.  There was also the fact that you couldn't find any pokemon NOT just created.  I know this was alleviated in B2W2 but by then I was already biased against it. (mandibuzz, sounds like a bug type, nope!  It's a bird!)
They probably should have saved a few designs for later, yes, but BW was essentially "starting over from the beginning," so I can understand where their decision was coming from.

QuoteThey gave eevee ANOTHER evolution because he totally needed one.  Yeah.  Because 3 weren't unique enough.
Am I the only one who wants an Eevee for every type?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on March 07, 2014, 08:30:49 AM
Hmm if I had to rank the games...

1. Hoenn
2. Unova
3. Kanto / Johto (tied)
5. Sinnoh
6. Kalos

But if I were to make an inequality based on that like you guys did, it would look like this:

III > V > I = II > IV >>>>>>>>>> VI

Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on March 07, 2014, 08:26:22 AMThey probably should have saved a few designs for later, yes

Really? I don't think so. What designs do you think they should have "saved for later?"
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on March 07, 2014, 08:33:18 AM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on March 07, 2014, 08:30:49 AMReally? I don't think so. What designs do you think they should have "saved for later?"
I wasn't really referring to any in specific, just mentioning the general lack of Pokémon in Gen 6 (as was brought up earlier).
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on March 07, 2014, 08:33:51 AM
Quote from: Dude on March 07, 2014, 07:16:40 AMMandible+Buzzard=mandibuzz

way to go genius
since when do birds have mandibles
you know the pincer things that bugs have?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on March 07, 2014, 08:35:40 AM
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on March 07, 2014, 08:33:51 AMsince when do birds have mandibles
you know the pincer things that bugs have?
To be extremely technical... :P

QuoteMandible
the jaw or a jawbone, esp. the lower jawbone in mammals and fishes.

either of the upper and lower parts of a bird's beak.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on March 07, 2014, 08:36:31 AM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on March 07, 2014, 08:35:40 AMTo be extremely technical... :P
Interesting.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on March 07, 2014, 09:17:10 AM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on March 07, 2014, 08:30:49 AMHmm if I had to rank the games...

1. Hoenn
2. Unova
3. Kanto / Johto (tied)
5. Sinnoh
6. Kalos

But if I were to make an inequality based on that like you guys did, it would look like this:

III > V > I = II > IV >>>>>>>>>> VI
I feel like it's kinda hard for me to rank the games, since they all have their unique charms. I definitely have favorites in 2 and 3, but after that they're almost all kinda tied for me. Each game had at least one thing that kept me coming back to it.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Dude on March 07, 2014, 09:49:11 AM
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on March 07, 2014, 08:36:31 AMInteresting.
uncultured swine. ::)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FierceDeity on March 07, 2014, 10:27:55 AM
Quote from: K-NiGhT on March 07, 2014, 07:44:25 AMwow, way to make completely unfounded statements on games you've never played. you, sir, are the literal definition of a genwunner.

This so much. Nocturne, normally I'm joking around, but I'm actually kinda frustrated with you right now :/
Although technically he'd be called a genthree-er, or something to that effect.

Quote from: K-NiGhT on March 07, 2014, 09:17:10 AMI feel like it's kinda hard for me to rank the games, since they all have their unique charms. I definitely have favorites in 2 and 3, but after that they're almost all kinda tied for me. Each game had at least one thing that kept me coming back to it.

I agree, ranking them is difficult. On the one hand, there are clear improvements that are made from generation to generation. On the other hand, technical achievement in a game is far from the only thing that makes it enjoyable for the player.

I've always had a soft spot for gen III. Then again, I've always had a soft spot for pretty much every generation. While I'm not very nostalgic for gen VI on account of the fact that it came out so recently, I do think I'd definitely consider it one of my favorites. I personally enjoyed how they integrated pokemon from older generations; I thought it was a nice break in the formula, as if it's their way of saying "people still love these pokemon, so why just toss them out and create an entirely new batch each time?". I also freaking loved lumiose city so much more than every other city in every other pokemon game ever. Even if I wasn't as excited about the somewhat kiddy customization aspects, it still created an amazing sense that you're in an actual city, rather than some random assortment of things the developers thought would be good to include at one particular point in the game. The 3D animation definitely helps with that, as well as the sheer variety of shit to do.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on March 07, 2014, 12:06:23 PM
Is it bad if the 5th and 6th generations didn't appeal to me like the third (and to a lesser extent fourth)?
That's what I said originally.  The things they offered compared to the other games didn't seem to merit buying them.  That's why I won't play them, and while X and Y may have made competitive battling perfect (according to waddle bro lol) it doesn't seem like pokemon used to be.  It's fine if I'm missing out, because with my attitude I wouldn't even enjoy playing it. (by the way the grass starter is stupid.  His ability is soooo annoying D: )

Fostering new discussion I gotta say Archie is my favorite villain in the games.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FierceDeity on March 07, 2014, 12:43:52 PM
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on March 07, 2014, 12:06:23 PMIs it bad if the 5th and 6th generations didn't appeal to me like the third (and to a lesser extent fourth)?

It is bad if you don't give them an actual chance before you talk shit about them. Emerald came out when you were six years old, it's only natural that it appeal more to you then regardless of advertised qualities of the game. It really is appropriate that K-night call you a genwunner, seeing as you are doing the same exact thing with another generation: glorifying something from your childhood while diminishing its successors despite not actually having experienced them. "Fairy type is dumb" "they're running out of ideas for pokemon, the generation I grew up with has the best ones"; these are the types of complaints that have been made throughout the entire goddamn series. Guess what? A shitload of people hate generation III for similar reasons. Kids get a Pokemon game when they're young and love it, but suddenly they grow up, and realize that random combinations of animals/objects and arbitrary elements might not be the most creative thing in the universe. Except the ones that they were exposed to during their most impressionable state are!

TL;DR please play through the goddamn games before you judge them.

Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on March 07, 2014, 12:06:23 PMIt's fine if I'm missing out, because with my attitude I wouldn't even enjoy playing it.

Well, that's certainly a great model for self-growth. "I acknowledge that my attitude is what's stopping me from giving proper consideration to these games, and there's absolutely nothing I can do to change that."
That should go up on the pedestal with the other great axioms, such as "If you feel like giving up, go ahead, I mean, it's too late anyways if you do." and "People with racist, homophobic, or other malicious types of attitudes can't be blamed, because it's their attitude that's holding them back, so I mean, what are you gonna do?"

...before that last part gets misinterpreted, I'm not calling you racist or homophobic, nor am I saying that not giving newer Pokemon games a chance is on the same level as either. I'm just saying that by the same progression of logic, those statements could be considered to make sense.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on March 07, 2014, 01:02:32 PM
I never said emerald had the best pokemon.
Red and Blue did.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on March 07, 2014, 01:04:50 PM
Nocturne: There is absolutely nothing wrong with saying "I'd rather not play Pokemon Black and White." There is a difference between doing that and saying that Pokemon Black and White is a terrible game with terrible Pokemon when you haven't even played the game. If you're going to bash a game, at least bother to play it first! Otherwise it just makes you look stupid.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on March 07, 2014, 01:59:57 PM
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on March 07, 2014, 01:02:32 PMI never said emerald had the best pokemon.
Red and Blue did.
oh yeah wow a Poke Ball with a face on it, 2 blobs, and a few hundred other generic animal ripoffs. SUCH REVOLUTIONARY
Quote from: SlowPokemon on March 07, 2014, 01:04:50 PMNocturne: There is absolutely nothing wrong with saying "I'd rather not play Pokemon Black and White." There is a difference between doing that and saying that Pokemon Black and White is a terrible game with terrible Pokemon when you haven't even played the game. If you're going to bash a game, at least bother to play it first! Otherwise it just makes you look stupid.
QFFT
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on March 07, 2014, 02:56:37 PM
I'm all for respecting opinions but people saying the original 151 were the most creative makes me laugh. Suuuure. I'm with K-NiGhT here.

Like, each gen has their good Pokemon and bad Pokemon, but it's all subjective. I love Vanillite, and some people think an ice cream Pokemon is silly. If they can say that without bashing, I'm fine. But it's stupid to just blindly bash Pokemon because they aren't the original 151.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on March 07, 2014, 03:02:23 PM
Quote from: K-NiGhT on March 07, 2014, 01:59:57 PMoh yeah wow a Poke Ball with a face on it, 2 blobs, and a few hundred other generic animal ripoffs. SUCH REVOLUTIONARY

I don't like this either. Don't bash gen I in response to bashing of the new Pokemon! All the regions have awesome Pokemon, and anyone who can't admit that is just embarrassing themselves. That's all there is to it.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on March 07, 2014, 03:03:58 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on March 07, 2014, 02:56:37 PMI'm all for respecting opinions but people saying the original 151 were the most creative makes me laugh.=
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.pokemondb.net%2Fartwork%2Fpidgey.jpg&hash=03e0b7e69d2c391791243e711db3d3ea6d1c2d47)

bird
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on March 07, 2014, 03:06:09 PM
Solution: Every Gen is good. Gen 1 wasn't the most creative by any means but it started it all, and so you have to respect that. Gens 2-4 added lots of cool new Pokemon, Gen 5 is my personal favorite, and then Gen 6 made competitive battling amazing.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on March 07, 2014, 03:13:40 PM
Quote from: blueflower999 on March 07, 2014, 03:06:09 PMSolution: Every Gen is good. Gen 1 wasn't the most creative by any means but it started it all, and so you have to respect that. Gens 2-4 added lots of cool new Pokemon, Gen 5 is my personal favorite, and then Gen 6 made competitive battling amazing.

Right, every gen is good in its own way. It's hard to compare them all, since each of them are really different in their own ways. Each gen has its pros and cons,

Like what Slow said, bashing older gens doesn't help at all. It's not going to make your argument look any better... in reality, whatever your favorite gen is is just based on you personally. I love gen 4, some people don't. I love all the gens in different ways, if that makes sense.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on March 07, 2014, 03:38:09 PM
I mean, sure he was a "villain", but he wasn't actually doing anything he thought was wrong.
They worded his script perfectly...  He's just so nice and willing to talk, while at the same time doing what he believes is right.  Even maxie, his opposite, was pretty mean to you in the game.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on March 07, 2014, 03:53:01 PM
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on March 07, 2014, 03:38:09 PMI mean, sure he was a "villain", but he wasn't actually doing anything he thought was wrong.
They worded his script perfectly...  He's just so nice and willing to talk, while at the same time doing what he believes is right.  Even maxie, his opposite, was pretty mean to you in the game.
um

That's not a villain, that's an anti hero.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on March 07, 2014, 04:00:40 PM
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on March 07, 2014, 03:38:09 PMI mean, sure he was a "villain", but he wasn't actually doing anything he thought was wrong.
They worded his script perfectly...  He's just so nice and willing to talk, while at the same time doing what he believes is right.  Even maxie, his opposite, was pretty mean to you in the game.

...I'm guessing you never played Pokemon Sapphire, in which Maxie is more of an ally and Archie is the main villain who's hellbent on destroying humanity. Because their lines are basically swapped for the two games, substituting "Groudon" for "Kyogre" and such.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on March 07, 2014, 04:17:27 PM
And in Emerald, both of them are the villains.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on March 07, 2014, 05:03:26 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on March 07, 2014, 04:00:40 PM...I'm guessing you never played Pokemon Sapphire, in which Maxie is more of an ally and Archie is the main villain who's hellbent on destroying humanity. Because their lines are basically swapped for the two games, substituting "Groudon" for "Kyogre" and such.
I was talking about emerald
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FierceDeity on March 07, 2014, 05:10:33 PM
"I like Archie as a villain because he's just doing what he thinks is right, creating a moral gray area, yet am unwilling to give generation V a chance, even though the gray area is significantly larger and more ambiguous with N than with any other pokemon villain to date"
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on March 07, 2014, 05:22:20 PM
Archie and Maxie arn't even villains, they're antiheros.

Also, for the person who corrected me when I said that Joey's Ratatta had perfect IVS, thank you for proving me wrong.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on March 07, 2014, 05:44:57 PM
Quote from: Yugi on March 07, 2014, 05:22:20 PMArchie and Maxie arn't even villains, they're antiheros.
I'm just curious-what makes an anti hero vs a villain?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on March 07, 2014, 05:56:08 PM
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on March 07, 2014, 05:44:57 PMI'm just curious-what makes an anti hero vs a villain?

An anti-hero is a hero without the main features as one, while a villain essentially has bad motives that benefit no-one but themselves.

Archie and Maxie both wanted to make the world a better place by making it all water/all land, but had bad ways of doing so (taking the red/blue orb from Mt Pyre, taking people's goods). Cyrus, on the other hand, wanted to make a universe that benefitted him, and had generally evil ways of doing so.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on March 07, 2014, 06:03:36 PM
gotcha.
I can still call him an antagonist right?
 ::)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: hjm978 on March 07, 2014, 06:09:43 PM
I HATE IVS....
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on March 07, 2014, 06:19:14 PM
Quote from: hjm978 on March 07, 2014, 06:09:43 PMI HATE IVS....
Eh I really don't think they're necessary
of course everyone else here does for some reason
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: hjm978 on March 07, 2014, 06:23:24 PM
It's more of that I'm trying competitive, and it's really dumb.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on March 08, 2014, 05:44:37 AM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on March 07, 2014, 03:02:23 PMI don't like this either. Don't bash gen I in response to bashing of the new Pokemon! All the regions have awesome Pokemon, and anyone who can't admit that is just embarrassing themselves. That's all there is to it.
i wasn't intending to totally bash gen I, though it did come across like that I suppose. I was just giving examples of designs in said gen that were a bit subpar. I do agree that each gen has some great Pokemon, but I'm also just reminding Nocturne that not everything was perfect about RBY
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Clanker37 on March 08, 2014, 07:09:54 AM
I doubt we'll ever get a 'perfect' gen. Indeed, the idea of perfection is preposterous. What remains clear though, is the positives and negatives about each gen which do it for some, but not for others. It's like picking a significant other. Some like gen 3's huge ass, while others like gen 6's hipster approach, while some will always be captivated by gen 1's grey hair and wrinkles.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: hjm978 on March 08, 2014, 07:47:15 AM
We could have a game for like Wii U or something that combines every region... That'd be cool...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on March 08, 2014, 08:31:19 AM
I swear to god every time I hear someone say that I lose a few brain cells.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on March 08, 2014, 08:53:30 AM
Quote from: hjm978 on March 08, 2014, 07:47:15 AMWe could have a game for like Wii U or something that combines every region... That'd be cool...
Unfortunately, Game Freak have officially stated that there will never be a game including all of the regions because it would be "an unplayable mess."

Don't argue with that, people. I don't care how many theories you have of how it could work- the pokégods have spoken.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on March 08, 2014, 08:55:35 AM
What would make it unplayable?
Go to one region, then the next, then the other, then another.  Done.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on March 08, 2014, 09:49:58 AM
Because Wii U discs don't have infinite storage capabilities. 721 Pokemon is already pushing it, but six regions, each packed with thousands of trainers, cities, items, and routes?

Personally, I'll take quality over quantity.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on March 08, 2014, 10:41:28 AM
A multi region game would never work. Do you remember how half-assed Kanto was in Johto? And Johto wasn't as flourished as it could have been because Kanto was there?

Stuffing 6 regions into a game just sounds bad.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on March 08, 2014, 10:46:52 AM
It just doesn't make any sense--Kanto in the Johto games worked because they're connected and the post game is basically the second half of the story.

But a game with every region? Not only is that just a stupid idea, that game would lack an identity. You always associate Pokemon games with their regions.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on March 08, 2014, 10:50:25 AM
Oh I know, but both regions felt underwhelming, but that's just my opinion.

And how would it work? You'd finish one region, deposit all your old Pokemon, get new ones? That takes away any personal bonds with your Pokemon as well.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on March 08, 2014, 01:05:42 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on March 08, 2014, 10:41:28 AMA multi region game would never work. Do you remember how half-assed Kanto was in Johto? And Johto wasn't as flourished as it could have been because Kanto was there?

Stuffing 6 regions into a game just sounds bad.
I never even made it into the dragon gym in those games.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on March 08, 2014, 01:08:45 PM
...you never made it to Claire's gym? Really?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on March 08, 2014, 01:15:10 PM
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on March 08, 2014, 01:05:42 PMI never even made it into the dragon gym in those games.

it's official gen III is nocturne's favorite becAUSE IT'S THE ONLY ONE HE ACTUALLY FINISHED
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on March 08, 2014, 02:16:44 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on March 08, 2014, 01:15:10 PMit's official gen III is nocturne's favorite becAUSE IT'S THE ONLY ONE HE ACTUALLY FINISHED
You got me  ::)
nah I've finished Diamond, Platinum, Emerald, Sapphire, and Yellow (because glitches)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on March 08, 2014, 02:38:11 PM
the only reason you finished yellow was because of glitches

what
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on March 08, 2014, 02:45:29 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on March 08, 2014, 08:31:19 AMI swear to god every time I hear someone say that I lose a few brain cells.
I think there should be a game where all 6 regions are explored.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on March 08, 2014, 02:50:45 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on March 08, 2014, 02:38:11 PMthe only reason you finished yellow was because of glitches

what
Yo lance was hard...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on March 08, 2014, 03:06:20 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on March 08, 2014, 08:31:19 AMI swear to god every time I hear someone say that I lose a few brain cells.
THAT EXPLAINS EVERYTHING

I think what people are talking about is a "MMO-type" Pokémon, which would certainly be doable (as MMOs obviously exist); but then again, it's a question of whether or not they'd be willing to do so, the answer to which is likely no (especially since MMOs are always tricky business, although I assume that, due to all the requests for such a game, it would be wildly successful).
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FierceDeity on March 08, 2014, 04:05:36 PM
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on March 08, 2014, 02:50:45 PMYo lance was hard...

if twitch plays pokemon can beat the elite four the normal way, so can you

Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on March 08, 2014, 03:06:20 PMI think what people are talking about is a "MMO-type" Pokémon, which would certainly be doable (as MMOs obviously exist); but then again, it's a question of whether or not they'd be willing to do so, the answer to which is likely no (especially since MMOs are always tricky business, although I assume that, due to all the requests for such a game, it would be wildly successful).

I would be so down for a pokemon MMO. The online interaction part, though, would be tricky (as it always is with Nintendo) seeing as they still want to maintain their child-friendly image, and interactions on an MMO are generally...not that
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Zunawe on March 10, 2014, 06:39:42 PM
Compromise? (http://pokemmo.eu/)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on March 10, 2014, 06:54:23 PM
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on March 08, 2014, 02:50:45 PMYo lance was hard...

i beat lance with a level 33 dragonair on my last run of red

no excuses
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on March 10, 2014, 07:06:50 PM
Just get yourself a Venomoth and Lance is a piece of cake
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Dude on March 10, 2014, 07:08:04 PM
Quote from: Zunawe on March 10, 2014, 06:39:42 PMCompromise? (http://pokemmo.eu/)
I was going to say something about this, but I thought everyone knew about this already so that's why I kept my mouth shut.

EDIT: Well, that and some people don't like to click links I post for some bizarre reason.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on March 10, 2014, 07:17:32 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on March 10, 2014, 06:54:23 PMi beat lance with a level 33 dragonair on my last run of red

no excuses
Quote from: blueflower999 on March 10, 2014, 07:06:50 PMJust get yourself a Venomoth and Lance is a piece of cake
I always just beat Lance with my (usually overleveled) starter... :P And the whole Elite Four, to boot.

For more recent games, though, I've gotten more "diverse," usually leveling up two or three Pokémon to the same, or very similar, levels.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on March 10, 2014, 07:19:07 PM
I always have a balanced team of six. It's more effort, but very worthwhile imo
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Zunawe on March 10, 2014, 07:26:52 PM
Quote from: Dude on March 10, 2014, 07:08:04 PMI was going to say something about this, but I thought everyone knew about this already so that's why I kept my mouth shut.

EDIT: Well, that and some people don't like to click links I post for some bizarre reason.
I partly recall finding out about it from this community, but I wasn't sure, and I figured nobody cares about one more post.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on March 10, 2014, 07:27:06 PM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on March 10, 2014, 07:17:32 PMI always just beat Lance with my (usually overleveled) starter... :P And the whole Elite Four, to boot.

For more recent games, though, I've gotten more "diverse," usually leveling up two or three Pokémon to the same, or very similar, levels.

pokemon master in the house
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FierceDeity on March 10, 2014, 07:39:23 PM
Quote from: blueflower999 on March 10, 2014, 07:06:50 PMJust get yourself a Venomoth and Lance is a piece of cake

It has to be suitable for all terrain, though.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on March 10, 2014, 07:48:06 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on March 10, 2014, 07:27:06 PMpokemon master in the house
UnComically missing the point.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on March 10, 2014, 11:57:52 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on March 10, 2014, 07:19:07 PMI always have a balanced team of six. It's more effort, but very worthwhile imo
*more fun
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on March 11, 2014, 03:43:21 AM
The only game where I actually used my starter to the very end was Soul Silver. Most of the time I end up ditching it for one reason or another.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on March 11, 2014, 06:20:01 AM
You ditch your starter?? D: For shame!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on March 11, 2014, 07:24:54 AM
I always end up ditching my starter unless I'm playing Gen 1 or Gen 2 games. The starter aren't that kewl anymore.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on March 11, 2014, 08:18:56 AM
I'd definitely agree that the first two gens have the coolest starters.

But I love all of the Grass starters.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on March 11, 2014, 08:35:37 AM
I don't know, chikorita and squirtle was kinda meh.  And mudkip is awesome.

DISCLAIMER: THIS IS MY OPINION BECAUSE YOU PROBABLY DON'T REALIZE THAT
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on March 11, 2014, 08:40:58 AM
:P idk if you realize that Gen III is my favorite too? I don't have any issues with your opinions, I have issues when you start insulting things you know nothing about. But let's not have this conversation again, I don't think it did us any good the first time.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on March 11, 2014, 08:56:35 AM
From what I've seen it seems like literally everyone has generation 3 as their favorite, is that right? Just asking out of curiosity.

Quote from: blueflower999 on March 11, 2014, 03:43:21 AMThe only game where I actually used my starter to the very end was Soul Silver. Most of the time I end up ditching it for one reason or another.
Quote from: Nebbles on March 11, 2014, 06:20:01 AMYou ditch your starter?? D: For shame!
I always ditch the starter as soon as possible.. I have a weird principle about not using good pokémon in playthroughs.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on March 11, 2014, 08:58:33 AM
My favorite gen is Gen 2. It has the coolest pokemon designs imho.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on March 11, 2014, 01:00:00 PM
I like all the starters... ah well, to each their own.

Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on March 11, 2014, 02:15:09 PM
I like all of the starters :D but I hate what some of them evolve into. Emboar is probably my least favorite fifth gen mon, I think its design is just terrible. Imo Delphox is pretty lame too. But we're all entitled to like whatever we want.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on March 11, 2014, 02:31:53 PM
Emboar and Delphox could have been so much more.

Torterra's one of my favorites, though.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Echo on March 11, 2014, 02:43:16 PM
Quote from: Jompa on March 11, 2014, 08:56:35 AMFrom what I've seen it seems like literally everyone has generation 3 as their favorite, is that right? Just asking out of curiosity.

Gen 5 for me. Gen 3's probably my second, but more because of FR/LG, and kinda Emerald.

But that's talking about the actual games. Couldn't really say for the Pokemon. Like, I don't care for like 90% of Gen 2 and Gen 4 Pokemon, but the ones that I do like (like Raikou) are some of my favourites.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on March 11, 2014, 02:46:37 PM
For the actual games, Black 2 and White 2 win out for me. For the Pokemon, I actually would go with Gen I or Gen II. Even though Pokemon Ruby was the first game I played, I'm a really big fan of the original 151.

I don't really like the Pokemon being grouped into gens, though it's sort of unavoidable.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on March 11, 2014, 04:01:29 PM
Oh and top five reasons for gen III remakes

1. orchestrated hoenn music
2. Orchestrated Hoenn music
3. Orchestrated Hoenn music
4. OrchesTRATED HOENN MUSIC
5. ORCHESTRATED HOENN MUSIC SERIOUSLY GUYS CAN YOU IMAGINE
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on March 11, 2014, 05:39:09 PM
Now that I think about it, Cyndaquil is probably my favorite fire-type starter...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on March 11, 2014, 06:15:11 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on March 11, 2014, 04:01:29 PMOh and top five reasons for gen III remakes

1. orchestrated hoenn music
2. Orchestrated Hoenn music
3. Orchestrated Hoenn music
4. OrchesTRATED HOENN MUSIC
5. ORCHESTRATED HOENN MUSIC SERIOUSLY GUYS CAN YOU IMAGINE

i'd cry enough tears of joy to fill the oceans of hoenn
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on March 11, 2014, 06:37:14 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on March 11, 2014, 06:15:11 PMi'd cry enough tears of joy to fill the oceans of hoenn
The irony here is that Hoenn is an island.

#CaptainObvious
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on March 11, 2014, 06:42:40 PM
Quote from: Kman96 on March 11, 2014, 06:37:14 PMThe irony here is that Hoenn is an island.

#CaptainObvious
That's a lot of tears.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on March 11, 2014, 06:46:15 PM
Quote from: Kman96 on March 11, 2014, 06:37:14 PMThe irony here is that Hoenn is an island.

#CaptainObvious

that was the joke
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Kman96 on March 11, 2014, 06:47:29 PM

Quote from: Nebbles on March 11, 2014, 06:46:15 PMthat was the joke
I know xD

Part of me wondered if you realized that, but I put the captain obvious thing just in case.


@BDS the tears would be NEVER ENDING
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on March 12, 2014, 01:19:06 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on March 11, 2014, 04:01:29 PMOh and top five reasons for gen III remakes

1. orchestrated hoenn music
2. Orchestrated Hoenn music
3. Orchestrated Hoenn music
4. OrchesTRATED HOENN MUSIC
5. ORCHESTRATED HOENN MUSIC SERIOUSLY GUYS CAN YOU IMAGINE
THE TRUMPETS MY ASS IS READY LOCK AND LOAD
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on March 12, 2014, 03:59:00 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on March 11, 2014, 04:01:29 PMOh and top five reasons for gen III remakes

1. orchestrated hoenn music
2. Orchestrated Hoenn music
3. Orchestrated Hoenn music
4. OrchesTRATED HOENN MUSIC
5. ORCHESTRATED HOENN MUSIC SERIOUSLY GUYS CAN YOU IMAGINE
dem trumpets doe

EDIT:
Quote from: Waddle Bro on March 12, 2014, 01:19:06 PMTHE TRUMPETS MY ASS IS READY LOCK AND LOAD
Quote from: Waddle Bro on March 12, 2014, 01:19:06 PMTHE TRUMPETS MY ASS IS READY LOCK AND LOAD
Quote from: Waddle Bro on March 12, 2014, 01:19:06 PMTHE TRUMPETS MY ASS IS READY LOCK AND LOAD
oh that too i guess i missed that xD
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on March 12, 2014, 04:14:28 PM
wow how funny and original making fun of trumpets while talking about hoenn music
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on March 12, 2014, 05:45:48 PM
I wasn't making fun of anything.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: hjm978 on March 14, 2014, 07:40:25 PM
I like Gen 3... but my fav. game is black 2. Just because of the PWT
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on March 18, 2014, 07:28:03 AM
Anyone has a female telepathy Gardevoir I can borrow? My trial for Pokebank is over and my fairy safaris suck
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on March 18, 2014, 12:39:15 PM
Buy the PB, worth every cent.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on March 18, 2014, 03:12:47 PM
Yeah I was planning on doing that, but I don't have enough stuff to transfer. I'm gonna have to mass download stuff from Pokebank to make it worth it
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on June 11, 2014, 11:32:12 PM
Oh and just for random future reference: if you're in a double battle with two Mewtwos on your side at once, each Mega-evolved into an X and Y form, it's known as the "Dynamic Mewuo". My friend and I developed the term when we were teaming a double battle against my brothers; I had X and he had Y so it worked out perfectly. And yes, I'm fully aware that this is only possible in a 2V2 link double battle.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on July 03, 2014, 03:10:02 PM
Keep your eyes peeled everyone! This is front page stuff! (http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-news/pokemon-orchestral-concert-tour-announced/)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on July 04, 2014, 07:01:21 AM
IT'S TIME FOR THE VGC 2014 WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on August 02, 2014, 09:23:30 AM
Is flareon any good?  I got one in the battle factory and physical sweeper flareon seemed to wreck face with shadow ball.  It also had overheat for those pesky high defense steel types or something idk
Although I did end up getting swept by a gardevoir... switched in to whiscash when I should have switched to exeggutor.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on August 02, 2014, 11:29:17 AM
Flareon used to be absolute garbage competitively speaking because it never got Flare Blitz and therefore couldn't take advantage of its high physical attack with any STAB moves. But now that it gets Flare Blitz, a Guts Flareon holding a Toxic Orb or something could be viable I suppose.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on August 02, 2014, 12:32:33 PM
Darmanitan is a way better counterpart to Flareon
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 02, 2014, 12:50:43 PM
Yeah for real, if you're going with a physical fire type, use Darmanitan over Flareon. Flareon still kinda sucks anyway.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 02, 2014, 01:09:55 PM
But Darmanitan is hella ugly. Also I'm pretty sure nocturne is playing a gen III game based on the fact that Shadow Ball is physical.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on August 02, 2014, 01:24:53 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on August 02, 2014, 12:50:43 PMYeah for real, if you're going with a physical fire type, use Darmanitan over Flareon.
Or ZardX or Victini. Victini is majorly overlooked in the OU metagame imho.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 02, 2014, 01:47:52 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 02, 2014, 01:09:55 PMBut Darmanitan is hella ugly. Also I'm pretty sure nocturne is playing a gen III game based on the fact that Shadow Ball is physical.

So? It's still a good Pokemon.

And oh right, ghost was physical back then. That made Flareon a little more useful since it could have Shadow Ball... I just feel bad for Flareon though. It really deserves a better movepool.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on August 02, 2014, 02:32:41 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 02, 2014, 01:09:55 PMBut Darmanitan is hella ugly. Also I'm pretty sure nocturne is playing a gen III game based on the fact that Shadow Ball is physical.
but slow

how can you say this thing (http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/4/40/555Darmanitan.png) is ugly

so cute
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: braix on August 02, 2014, 03:15:09 PM
I have a team of 6 Zoroarks on Pkmn White. It obviously didn't work out.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Echo on August 02, 2014, 03:28:40 PM
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on August 02, 2014, 09:23:30 AMIs flareon any good?  I got one in the battle factory and physical sweeper flareon seemed to wreck face with shadow ball.  It also had overheat for those pesky high defense steel types or something idk
Although I did end up getting swept by a gardevoir... switched in to whiscash when I should have switched to exeggutor.

Anything works in-game. Good points are its high attacking stats and Special Defense, and it can't get walled by stuff like Skarmory and Forretress which usually wall other physical attackers. Gonna have to rely on Baton Pass'd Speed from something like Ninjask or Jolteon since there's no Trick Room in Gen 3.

If you move on to Gen 6, it's still outclassed or faces competition from pretty much every other physical Fire attacker, but it's one of the best Pokemon in Eevee Cup at least.

Quote from: zoroark1264 on August 02, 2014, 03:15:09 PMI have a team of 6 Zoroarks on Pkmn White. It obviously didn't work out.

those mindgames
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on August 02, 2014, 09:20:28 PM
Quote from: Echo on August 02, 2014, 03:28:40 PMAnything works in-game. Good points are its high attacking stats and Special Defense, and it can't get walled by stuff like Skarmory and Forretress which usually wall other physical attackers. Gonna have to rely on Baton Pass'd Speed from something like Ninjask or Jolteon since there's no Trick Room in Gen 3.

eeeh it was holding a quick claw.  Seemed to work out with priority overheat one shotting steelix and skarmory, shadow ball pretty much 2 shotted any thing else.  I was just wondering if it was something I could take to other battle areas
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: UnknownKirbyMan on August 04, 2014, 03:31:55 AM
Well...
It's been quite a while since I've been here.
I'm needing a Metagross with trick, stealth rock, and adamant nature.
No way to get those moves without B2/W2.
Any willing to trade for that?
I only have a copy of X right now.

I mean pokemon,  not games...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on August 04, 2014, 04:33:16 AM
Idk why you'd want to run Trick with Rocks, because it's generally used with the Choice items to break stall, I think they're the only viable items to go with Trick. Trick+three attacking moves is a better set imo.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on August 04, 2014, 05:41:22 AM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on August 04, 2014, 04:33:16 AMIdk why you'd want to run Trick with Rocks, because it's generally used with the Choice items to break stall, I think they're the only viable items to go with Trick. Trick+three attacking moves is a better set imo.
Trick an Iron Ball to the foe (or, alternatively, a Choice item), then set up Stealth Rock (assuming they switch, you have a free opportunity to do so).
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on August 04, 2014, 06:28:11 AM
Who the fuck would run Iron Ball Metagross, it's just bad and gimmicky as hell. If you don't believe me, just go to Showdown chat to argue. Besides, Lagging Tail is superior to Iron Ball.
Wasting two turns on just getting simple Rocks up isn't worth it, especially when there are way better options.

Tl;dr You'd be better off running Thunder Wave, but Metagross likes that Meteor Mash+Earthquake+Bullet Punch combo. Take one of those three moves away and it's viability decreases a lot(especially with Iron Ball).

I personally run the Assault Vest set with those three moves and Zen Headbutt.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on August 04, 2014, 09:44:01 AM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on August 04, 2014, 06:28:11 AMWho the fuck would run Iron Ball Metagross, it's just bad and gimmicky as hell. If you don't believe me, just go to Showdown chat to argue. Besides, Lagging Tail is superior to Iron Ball.
Wasting two turns on just getting simple Rocks up isn't worth it, especially when there are way better options.

Tl;dr You'd be better off running Thunder Wave, but Metagross likes that Meteor Mash+Earthquake+Bullet Punch combo. Take one of those three moves away and it's viability decreases a lot(especially with Iron Ball).

I personally run the Assault Vest set with those three moves and Zen Headbutt.
Your tldr is nearly as long as your first thing anyway
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on August 04, 2014, 08:16:01 PM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on August 04, 2014, 06:28:11 AMWho the fuck would run Iron Ball Metagross, it's just bad and gimmicky as hell. If you don't believe me, just go to Showdown chat to argue. Besides, Lagging Tail is superior to Iron Ball.
Wasting two turns on just getting simple Rocks up isn't worth it, especially when there are way better options.

Tl;dr You'd be better off running Thunder Wave, but Metagross likes that Meteor Mash+Earthquake+Bullet Punch combo. Take one of those three moves away and it's viability decreases a lot(especially with Iron Ball).

I personally run the Assault Vest set with those three moves and Zen Headbutt.
Iron Ball also has the added effect of negating Levitate and making Flying types vulnerable to Earthquake, while essentially having the same effect as Lagging Tail (except that the holder isn't guaranteed to move last- but with a 50% speed reduction, they're most likely going to). Also, Stealth Rock is commonly used with Trick/Iron Ball as part of a Utility set.

Although an Assault Vest set is probably better overall, you don't know how it fits in with UnknownKirbyMan's planned team.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on August 04, 2014, 09:26:59 PM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on August 04, 2014, 08:16:01 PMIron Ball also has the added effect of negating Levitate and making Flying types vulnerable to Earthquake, while essentially having the same effect as Lagging Tail (except that the holder isn't guaranteed to move last- but with a 50% speed reduction, they're most likely going to).

Also, Stealth Rock is commonly used with Trick/Iron Ball as part of a Utility set.
You're better off with going for two Meteor Mashes, instead of having to Trick and then Earthquake. Trick is a waste of a moveslot that cripples you until you use it.

And "commonly used" my fucking ass. Ladder up to 1500 and then tell me how many Iron Balls you see.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on August 04, 2014, 09:41:14 PM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on August 04, 2014, 09:26:59 PMYou're better off with going for two Meteor Mashes, instead of having to Trick and then Earthquake. Trick is a waste of a moveslot that cripples you until you use it.
The whole point is to cripple whatever you Trick the Iron Ball to (especially something that would threaten Metagross without it). Since Metagross is already so slow, Iron Ball doesn't hinder it very much in the first place.

QuoteAnd "commonly used" my fucking ass. Ladder up to 1500 and then tell me how many Iron Balls you see.
I said "commonly used as part of a Utility set" not just "commonly used" (e.g. people who use a Utility set might use Trick/Iron Ball).

Additionally, I'm currently at 1476 (trying out a variety of different teams, currently one centered around Mega Heracross) and I haven't seen very many Metagross in general, Assault Vest or otherwise (most likely because of the Knock Off buff and Steel nerf).
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Olimar12345 on August 04, 2014, 10:58:31 PM
Off topic here, but does anyone happen to have a pokemon with the ability analytic they would spare? I'm breeding and could really use the help :/
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on August 04, 2014, 11:22:13 PM
Again, Thunder Wave is a much superior option to Trick/Iron Ball(although that seems like a waste of a moveslot with Rocks to me!) and I'm not going to argue about it any further. Also Metagross is UU, so it's more seen in that metagame.

What Pokemon are you trying to breed, Olimar? btw you're not off-topic one bit
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Echo on August 05, 2014, 12:02:52 AM
Okay, Iron Ball + Trick Metagross is a thing, but it really shouldn't be.

Like, the things you would swap an Iron Ball on, either still threaten Metagross regardless so you have to do it on the switch, or you would get similar or better results using other moves. Rotom-W's probably the best thing you could use the anti-Levitate gimmick for, but it can still pack Will-o-Wisp, so you lose. Metagross doesn't do more than 50% to Skarmory with Earthquake, so it still laughs at you with Roost. Stuff like Thundurus, you could just Rock Slide/Ice Punch or even Zen Headbutt for a lot of damage anyway. And so on and so forth, until you get to stuff like Air Balloon Excadrill/Heatran where it could be useful, but it's too situational, and you could just break the Balloon on the switch anyway since you have to rely on getting them on the switch with Trick. And that's not even mentioning Pokemon that don't worry too much about losing Ground immunity anyway and still threaten Metagross, like Landorus or Gyarados (who could even be Mega and not be able to be Tricked).

Just looking at Metagross w/Trick overall, Scarf is probably a better option, since unlike Iron Ball which ignores Metagross's poor Speed, Choice Scarf mitigates that disadvantage instead, while being even more useful in crippling utility Pokemon like Skarmory.

Quote from: UnknownKirbyMan on August 04, 2014, 03:31:55 AMWell...
It's been quite a while since I've been here.
I'm needing a Metagross with trick, stealth rock, and adamant nature.
No way to get those moves without B2/W2.
Any willing to trade for that?
I only have a copy of X right now.

I mean pokemon,  not games...

I could help you, just send me a PM or something so we can discuss when to trade. Although, I would consider the above discussion depending on what kind of Metagross moveset you want to use.

Quote from: Olimar12345 on August 04, 2014, 10:58:31 PMOff topic here, but does anyone happen to have a pokemon with the ability analytic they would spare? I'm breeding and could really use the help :/

I could probably help you too, but yeah, it'd help to know which Pokemon in particular you're breeding.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on August 05, 2014, 12:11:04 AM
Echo my main man over here serving like no end :]

You forgot Zapdos, but it's uncommon and carries Heat Wave.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on August 05, 2014, 12:52:41 AM
Quote from: Echo on August 05, 2014, 12:02:52 AMRotom-W's probably the best thing you could use the anti-Levitate gimmick for, but it can still pack Will-o-Wisp, so you lose.
252+ Atk Metagross Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Rotom-W: 234-276 (76.9 - 90.7%)

252+ Atk burned Metagross Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Rotom-W: 117-138 (38.4 - 45.3%)

Even with a burn, it still 2HKO's Rotom-W (assuming the first attack was without a burn). Afterwards, you can get rid of the burn with Chansey's Heal Bell/Aromatherapy so Metagross isn't complete dead weight.

QuoteMetagross doesn't do more than 50% to Skarmory with Earthquake, so it still laughs at you with Roost.
True, but using a physical attacker against a physical wall generally isn't a good idea in the first place. :P

QuoteStuff like Thundurus, you could just Rock Slide/Ice Punch or even Zen Headbutt for a lot of damage anyway.
252+ Atk Metagross Earthquake vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Thundurus: 330-390 (110 - 130%)

252+ Atk Metagross Ice Punch vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Thundurus: 248-292 (82.6 - 97.3%)
252+ Atk Metagross Rock Slide vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Thundurus: 248-292 (82.6 - 97.3%)

QuoteAnd so on and so forth, until you get to stuff like Air Balloon Excadrill/Heatran where it could be useful, but it's too situational, and you could just break the Balloon on the switch anyway since you have to rely on getting them on the switch with Trick.
If you Trick Iron Ball to Excadrill on the switch, you don't take the heavy damage that Excadrill will do to you, and can OHKO it (and you get an Air Balloon :3). Heatran, as well, can potentially burn Metagross.

QuoteAnd that's not even mentioning Pokemon that don't worry too much about losing Ground immunity anyway and still threaten Metagross, like Landorus or Gyarados (who could even be Mega and not be able to be Tricked).
Even so, it allows other Pokemon (that would otherwise be outsped) to handle the threat; this also includes Pokemon which aren't specifically a threat to Metagross, but to other teammates.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on August 05, 2014, 03:58:22 AM
Actually like 70% of the Rotom-Ws are physically defensive to counter in this metagame to wall threats like Talonflame.
252+ Atk Metagross Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-W: 170-200 (55.9 - 65.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
After burn, the Metagross would be rendered useless and easy setup fodder for half the metagame and wouldn't give a shit if you got rocks up. Besides, no good player would leave their Iron Balled Rotom on an incoming EQ if they knew it'd kill.
 
And if I were to run Metagross as a support Mon, I wouldn't give it max Attack anyways. I recommend noting how common Knock Off is nowadays. Thunder Wave is far more reliable.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Olimar12345 on August 05, 2014, 06:25:39 AM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on August 04, 2014, 11:22:13 PMWhat Pokemon are you trying to breed, Olimar? btw you're not off-topic one bit

A female Elgyem/Beheeyem if possible.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on August 05, 2014, 09:02:47 AM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on August 04, 2014, 11:22:13 PMAlso Metagross is UU
wat
how
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on August 05, 2014, 09:28:57 AM
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on August 05, 2014, 09:02:47 AMwat
how
The Gen VI Steel resistance nerf gave it two new weaknesses.

And Olimar, I recommend checking GTS for easy Elgyem trades, if you get lucky, someone might be offering an Analytic one they got as a leftover from IV breeding.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FireArrow on August 05, 2014, 10:37:01 AM
Cummon people, Iron Ball/Trick Klefki is where it's at.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 05, 2014, 10:39:45 AM
Nah, Iron Defense Klefki all the way. Physical attacks don't do jack shit.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FireArrow on August 05, 2014, 10:43:40 AM
Wynaut both.

Klefki @ Iron Ball
EVs: 252 Hp, 252 SpD, 4 Def
-Trick
-Iron Defense
-Light Screen
-Moonblast or some shit

Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 05, 2014, 11:02:23 AM
Nah, mine's purely for Prankster purposes only in Doubles.

Klefki @ Leftovers, Bold Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Def, 4 SpD
-Thunder Wave
-Foul Play
-Swagger
-Iron Defense
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on August 05, 2014, 11:20:04 AM
Nebbles you're such a cunt for running that set
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 05, 2014, 11:22:27 AM
I know c:
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on August 05, 2014, 01:42:19 PM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on August 05, 2014, 11:20:04 AMNebbles you're such a cunt for running that set
Smogon is for banning Swagger D:
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on August 05, 2014, 02:07:30 PM
They already banned it.

They're also thinking about banning Gengarite from Ubers. Hella frivolous.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Echo on August 05, 2014, 02:13:19 PM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on August 05, 2014, 12:52:41 AM252+ Atk Metagross Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Rotom-W: 234-276 (76.9 - 90.7%)

252+ Atk burned Metagross Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Rotom-W: 117-138 (38.4 - 45.3%)

Even with a burn, it still 2HKO's Rotom-W (assuming the first attack was without a burn). Afterwards, you can get rid of the burn with Chansey's Heal Bell/Aromatherapy so Metagross isn't complete dead weight.

Waddle pretty much covered the main thing, in that physically defensive Rotom is by far the most common. So you need to face a non-defensive Rotom and get it on the switch, otherwise you're gonna get Burned and then Pain Split/Rest'd on and look like a fool.

QuoteTrue, but using a physical attacker against a physical wall generally isn't a good idea in the first place. :P

One of the key values of Trick is that it can let Pokemon stay in on and deal with other Pokemon that would otherwise be a problem. That's uh, kinda what your original argument was for using Iron Ball. If Metagross has to use up both an item slot and a move slot for a gimmick that doesn't even handle one of its main counters, then I honestly can't see how the strategy's worth it.

You could argue that Tricking Iron Ball could allow the rest of the team to handle Skarmory better, but TrickScarf is even more effective, by making Skarmory have a harder time with setup moves and the like.

Quote252+ Atk Metagross Earthquake vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Thundurus: 330-390 (110 - 130%)

I think you made a mistake in your calculations. Here:
Turn 1: 252+ Atk Metagross Trick vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Thundurus: 0-0 (0 - 0%)
Turn 2: 252+ Atk Metagross Earthquake vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Thundurus: 330-390 (110 - 130%)
-- guaranteed 2HKO

You're not accounting for the turn that Trick is used here. You need to use Trick before Earthquake, so it's still a 2HKO like Ice Punch/Rock Slide.

Ice Punch/Rock Slide is better in more situations too, since it can KO on the switch if Stealth Rock/weather damage is taken into account, while Trick can't.

QuoteIf you Trick Iron Ball to Excadrill on the switch, you don't take the heavy damage that Excadrill will do to you, and can OHKO it (and you get an Air Balloon :3). Heatran, as well, can potentially burn Metagross.

So it's only helpful against a couple of Pokemon, and only if they're switching in, and only if they have a specific item. This pretty much says that Iron Ball + Trick Metagross is only helpful in an ideal scenario. Strategies that can get you out of unfavourable situations are much more valuable.

If you're gonna predict the switch, then you might as well just pop the Balloon anyway. Against Heatran, you can pop the Balloon and outspeed it with some Speed investment for a KO. Against Excadrill, you could just have a Balloon to begin with and still have the advantage by popping the Balloon on the switch, and you can even switch in on Excadrill's Earthquake too. Not like Balloon Excadrill/Heatran's all that common anyway, I think they're mainly wearing Scarves nowadays.

QuoteEven so, it allows other Pokemon (that would otherwise be outsped) to handle the threat; this also includes Pokemon which aren't specifically a threat to Metagross, but to other teammates.

Eh... This is true, but it can also be flipped around. You could gimp the opponent with Iron Ball and then use a teammate to deal with it, but on the other hand you could just use a generally better Metagross set and then use a teammate that beats Metagross's threats even without the Iron Ball. You only get one shot for a TrickBall, so it's not as reliable as just using a good partner that can switch in multiple times regardless.

tl;dr, if you're gonna defend Trick + Iron Ball, don't try to nitpick my arguments, just make one or two really good points that shows that it has merit.


Quote from: FireArrow on August 05, 2014, 10:37:01 AMCummon people, Iron Ball/Trick Klefki is where it's at.

Assault Vest Klefki is best Klefki

Like Waddle said before, if you're gonna do (Prankster) Trick shenanigans, just use a Choice item, or even a Lagging Tail. Klefki doesn't pack Earthquake or anything, so it can't really take advantage of the Iron Ball thing.

If you want to weigh down Flying/Levitate Pokemon, just use Gravity. And if you want to use Iron Ball, use it with Fling on something like Tyranitar so you can at least get a clean KO.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FireArrow on August 05, 2014, 02:52:01 PM
The point was more so that Klefki can viably pull it off unlike Metagross, being outclassed by every other trick item or not. I agree that's it's terribly gimmicky though trick assault vest sound hilarious.

EDIT: Lopunny could actually do that. .-.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on August 05, 2014, 03:08:45 PM
I actually had a lot of fun recently fucking around in the higher portion of UU ladder with a Switcheroo Klutz AV Lopunny because UU is so stally. It was so fun when I managed to mess Blisseys and Suicunes up, but it's still a horrible set. Stallbreaker Mew is by far a better option.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 05, 2014, 03:11:01 PM
Assault Vest is also fun on Florges or Goodra. Suck up special attacks like a champ.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on August 05, 2014, 03:25:46 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on August 05, 2014, 03:11:01 PMGoodra
is that like seadra or what
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on August 05, 2014, 03:35:57 PM
Pro tip: You actually shouldn't use Assault Vest to make your Mon a special tank(with the exception of Goodra because of it's lack of support moves, although you should invest in HP and SpAtk instead of Special Defense). It's best used to boost your already existing bulk to allow you live hits without having to invest in your Special Defense.

If I could get a dollar for every Hydro Pump my Conkeldurr or Earth Power my Metagross has been able to live thanks to AV and retaliate back~

But AV Florges is as frivolous as AV Blissey imo. Wish+Aromatherapy is great support.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 05, 2014, 03:42:33 PM
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on August 05, 2014, 03:25:46 PMis that like seadra or what

you're joking right
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on August 05, 2014, 03:56:13 PM
So I managed to land me a Piplup natured to Sp Atk, and a characteristic boosting Sp Atk at the expense of Atk. You'd better believe I maxed its EVs in Sp Atk. (Afterwards I split the of the EVs rest half and half between Def and Sp Def) Currently it's a Lv 100 Empoleon.

And right now I have its moves as follows:
-Ice Beam
-Hydro Pump
-Flash Cannon
-Toxic

I'm not sure what item to give it. Any suggestions as to what moveset/items I should be using to make the most of it? For reasons more extensive to list here, I basically need it to have Flash Cannon. So that's the only thing that has to stay the same.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on August 05, 2014, 04:03:13 PM
Give it thunder wave
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on August 05, 2014, 04:09:12 PM
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on August 05, 2014, 04:03:13 PMGive it thunder wave
Reason? Right now I think with the super-Sp Atk it's more geared up for immediate OHKOs as opposed to just slowing the opponent down with paralysis. My original intent was to use a wide variety of moves so that it could get STAB on as many different types as possible.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on August 05, 2014, 04:12:17 PM
Not a spread I'd run, but replace Toxic with either Grass Knot or Scald(in case you don't want to miss with Hydro Pump. And slap a Life Orb, Air Balloon or Assault Vest on it. I'd prefer the latter, but AVs are more harder to get.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Echo on August 05, 2014, 04:17:39 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on August 05, 2014, 03:11:01 PMAssault Vest is also fun on Florges or Goodra. Suck up special attacks like a champ.

I'm in love with Assault Vest Goodra in Doubles right now. Shrugs off Special Attacks, most physical Attacks just trigger Gooey, and Goodra opens up any defensive plays like Protect/Wide Guard with Feint.

I don't recommend AV Florges though, for reasons already mentioned.

Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on August 05, 2014, 03:25:46 PMis that like seadra or what

Think more like Barney, or a slimy Dragonite.

Quote from: JDMEK5 on August 05, 2014, 03:56:13 PMSo I managed to land me a Piplup natured to Sp Atk, and a characteristic boosting Sp Atk at the expense of Atk. You'd better believe I maxed its EVs in Sp Atk. (Afterwards I split the of the EVs rest half and half between Def and Sp Def) Currently it's a Lv 100 Empoleon.

And right now I have its moves as follows:
-Ice Beam
-Hydro Pump
-Flash Cannon
-Toxic

I'm not sure what item to give it. Any suggestions as to what moveset/items I should be using to make the most of it? For reasons more extensive to list here, I basically need it to have Flash Cannon. So that's the only thing that has to stay the same.

Assuming Battle Spot Singles, give it an Air Balloon and either Scald or Grass Knot over Toxic. Air Balloon's useful so that it can come in on Ground-types like Garchomp. Toxic's not bad, I just prefer other utility moves like Scald/Aqua Jet/Yawn/Stealth Rock or coverage like Grass Knot over it. But if Empoleon's not from an earlier game with Move Tutors, or doesn't have certain Egg Moves, then your other options are limited.

If you're doing Doubles, consider a Trick Room team to make up for its low Speed.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on August 05, 2014, 04:18:28 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on August 05, 2014, 03:42:33 PMyou're joking right
nah it sounds like seadra
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 05, 2014, 04:20:15 PM
Air Balloon would be good in like, doubles since Earthquake. Granted the Pokemon using Earthquake is fast enough to get a hit in, though...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on August 05, 2014, 04:30:46 PM
I will not allow Goodra to be made fun of Goodra is one of my favorite gen VI Pokémon
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on August 05, 2014, 04:37:56 PM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on August 05, 2014, 04:12:17 PMNot a spread I'd run, but replace Toxic with either Grass Knot or Scald(in case you don't want to miss with Hydro Pump. And slap a Life Orb, Air Balloon or Assault Vest on it. I'd prefer the latter, but AVs are more harder to get.
I can get an AV. But actually its Sp Def right now isn't bad at all. It takes Sp Attacks really nicely actually. Maybe I'll go with the Air Balloon.
Air Balloon simply because this is part of a thing I'm doing with my friends where we are doing our own sort of "Elite 4" thing. Basically the 4 of us form an Elite 4 of our own but we each get to choose our own types and make it as difficult as we can muster. I chose Steel (hence Empoleon) and thus, people are likely going to be coming at me with lots of Ground moves in hand.

So with all being said, the moveset will be:
-Ice beam
-Scald
-Flash Cannon
-Grass Knot

But I'll play with both Air Balloon and Life Orb to see which does more damage in practicality. Thanks fellas.

As I said, I'm building a Steel team but I've only got Empoleon set so far. I'm thinking of using the following:
-Empoleon
-Metagross
-Ferrothorn
-Magnezone (with Air Balloon)
-Aggron
-Bisharp

Thoughts on that?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on August 05, 2014, 05:02:40 PM
I actually laddered quite high with my Steel Bulky Offense OU Monotype team with a 9-1 win ratio I think. It had trouble against Electric and Bulky Water teams.

When teambuilding, I had to create switch-ins to Fighting, Fire and Ground moves. Weakness Policy Mixed Aegislash, Flash Fire Air Balloon Heatran and standard.jpg Skarmory handled the weaknesses respectively and well. I also ran a Frivolous Mega Scizor set(SD+Roost+U-Turn+Bullet Punch), an original Weakness Policy Endure Lucario(although since you're not using Smogon rules, I'd go with a MegaLuke, and finally a Choice Scarf Analytic Magnezone.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on August 05, 2014, 06:01:29 PM
Quote from: JDMEK5 on August 05, 2014, 04:37:56 PMI can get an AV. But actually its Sp Def right now isn't bad at all. It takes Sp Attacks really nicely actually. Maybe I'll go with the Air Balloon.
Air Balloon simply because this is part of a thing I'm doing with my friends where we are doing our own sort of "Elite 4" thing. Basically the 4 of us form an Elite 4 of our own but we each get to choose our own types and make it as difficult as we can muster. I chose Steel (hence Empoleon) and thus, people are likely going to be coming at me with lots of Ground moves in hand.

So with all being said, the moveset will be:
-Ice beam
-Scald
-Flash Cannon
-Grass Knot

But I'll play with both Air Balloon and Life Orb to see which does more damage in practicality. Thanks fellas.

As I said, I'm building a Steel team but I've only got Empoleon set so far. I'm thinking of using the following:
-Empoleon
-Metagross
-Ferrothorn
-Magnezone (with Air Balloon)
-Aggron
-Bisharp

Thoughts on that?
You should use sandstorm
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Dude on August 05, 2014, 06:05:07 PM
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Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 05, 2014, 06:33:03 PM
Sandstorm would be ideal... if weather wasn't completely nerfed in gen 6. All though you can get 5-8 turns from the Sand Rock or whatever it's called, you only have that many turns on your side unless you keep switching out a Pokemon Sand Stream.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on August 05, 2014, 06:35:02 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on August 05, 2014, 06:33:03 PMSandstorm would be ideal... if weather wasn't completely nerfed in gen 6. All though you can get 5-8 turns from the Sand Rock or whatever it's called, you only have that many turns on your side unless you keep switching out a Pokemon Sand Stream.
Yeah doesn't sandstorm increase their defenses by 50%?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on August 05, 2014, 06:36:36 PM
Quote from: Echo on August 05, 2014, 02:13:19 PMWaddle pretty much covered the main thing, in that physically defensive Rotom is by far the most common. So you need to face a non-defensive Rotom and get it on the switch, otherwise you're gonna get Burned and then Pain Split/Rest'd on and look like a fool.
According to the Pokemon Showdown usage stats, 252 HP/4 Sp. Atk/252 Sp. Def is the most commonly used EV spread (not sure where Waddle's getting 70% for physically defensive Rotom-W). Even with 252 HP/252 Def, Metagross still has a chance to 2HKO (minimum damage is 91.6%).

QuoteOne of the key values of Trick is that it can let Pokemon stay in on and deal with other Pokemon that would otherwise be a problem. That's uh, kinda what your original argument was for using Iron Ball. If Metagross has to use up both an item slot and a move slot for a gimmick that doesn't even handle one of its main counters, then I honestly can't see how the strategy's worth it.

You could argue that Tricking Iron Ball could allow the rest of the team to handle Skarmory better, but TrickScarf is even more effective, by making Skarmory have a harder time with setup moves and the like.
If you Trick it to a threat that's switching in, you don't have to worry about that. If you Trick it to a non-threat to Metagross (but something that is a threat to another team member), then you could potentially stay in.

If you run Choice Scarf Trick, you risk Tricking it to a sweeper/Pokemon that can use a Scarf.

QuoteI think you made a mistake in your calculations. Here:
Turn 1: 252+ Atk Metagross Trick vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Thundurus: 0-0 (0 - 0%)
Turn 2: 252+ Atk Metagross Earthquake vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Thundurus: 330-390 (110 - 130%)
-- guaranteed 2HKO

You're not accounting for the turn that Trick is used here. You need to use Trick before Earthquake, so it's still a 2HKO like Ice Punch/Rock Slide.

Ice Punch/Rock Slide is better in more situations too, since it can KO on the switch if Stealth Rock/weather damage is taken into account, while Trick can't. Even if you hit it with Ice Punch/Rock Slide on the switch, you'd most likely still end up with the same result.
This is assuming that Metagross and Thundurus switch in at the same time, so Metagross has to use Trick before it has any chance to attack.

With Ice Punch/Rock Slide, if Thundurus switches in on an Earthquake, you're not doing any damage, so you still have to attack again before you're doing any damage.

QuoteSo it's only helpful against a couple of Pokemon, and only if they're switching in, and only if they have a specific item. This pretty much says that Iron Ball + Trick Metagross is only helpful in an ideal scenario. Strategies that can get you out of unfavourable situations are much more valuable.
As I said earlier, it's even useful against Pokemon that don't threaten Metagross specifically, but threaten other teammates (or Pokemon that can threaten both).

EXAMPLES:
Garchomp uses Earthquake, doing 71.4 - 84.6%. Metagross Tricks Iron Ball to Garchomp. Metagross switches to Kyurem-B, which is normally outsped by Garchomp. Garchomp uses Earthquake again, doing 41.6 - 49.3%. Kyurem-B can now KO without being outsped.

Greninja uses Dark Pulse. Metagross Tricks Iron Ball to Greninja. Metagross uses (other move). Greninja uses Dark Pulse, KO'ing. This allows a number of other safe switches (e.g. Landorus, among others), now that Greninja cannot outspeed.

QuoteIf you're gonna predict the switch, then you might as well just pop the Balloon anyway. Against Heatran, you can pop the Balloon and outspeed it with some Speed investment for a KO. Against Excadrill, you could just have a Balloon to begin with and still have the advantage by popping the Balloon on the switch, and you can even switch in on Excadrill's Earthquake too. Not like Balloon Excadrill/Heatran's all that common anyway, I think they're mainly wearing Scarves nowadays.
In order to outspeed Heatran, you have to have speed investment (assuming you're using an Assault Vest set, you most likely wouldn't), and the opposing Heatran has to have no speed investment. And, yes, Excadrill/Heatran commonly use Air Balloons (though Choice Scarf is the next most common thing for both of them).

QuoteEh... This is true, but it can also be flipped around. You could gimp the opponent with Iron Ball and then use a teammate to deal with it, but on the other hand you could just use a generally better Metagross set and then use a teammate that beats Metagross's threats even without the Iron Ball. You only get one shot for a TrickBall, so it's not as reliable as just using a good partner that can switch in multiple times regardless.
Trick + Iron Ball offers better support for other teammates, especially slower ones (or ones that are somewhat fast but aren't fast enough to outspeed potentially major threats); additionally, I assume that this Metagross would serve as a supplement to the team rather than what it's built around (e.g. needed a support Mon so added Utility Metagross)- in this case, a "better" Metagross wouldn't work in the same scenarios. It's like asking why you'd use Sticky Web when you can just use faster Pokemon. :P

Quotetl;dr, if you're gonna defend Trick + Iron Ball, don't try to nitpick my arguments, just make one or two really good points that shows that it has merit.
Nitpicking: looking for small or unimportant errors or faults, especially in order to criticize unnecessarily.

ಠ_ಠ


Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on August 05, 2014, 06:35:02 PMYeah doesn't sandstorm increase their defenses by 50%?
Special defense of Rock-types.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 05, 2014, 06:38:00 PM
So Steel and Ground don't get that same coverage, or Pokemon that have abilities such as Magic Guard. So eh, even so, weather's nowhere near as good as it used to be.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FireArrow on August 05, 2014, 08:47:55 PM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on August 05, 2014, 03:08:45 PMI actually had a lot of fun recently fucking around in the higher portion of UU ladder with a Switcheroo Klutz AV Lopunny because UU is so stally. It was so fun when I managed to mess Blisseys and Suicunes up, but it's still a horrible set. Stallbreaker Mew is by far a better option.

Stallbreaker mew is god. I use a set of WoW, Softboiled, Taunt, and Infestation around 1600 on the OU latter. It fucks up so much stuff.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on August 06, 2014, 03:42:36 AM
I based the 70% on my experience on the higher portion of the tier. I wouldn't base my words on the Usage button on Smogon Damage Calc, a month back it suggested a Flame Plate Victini to me. The noobs usually just click the "suggested ev spread". The majority of Smogon Forums also agrees and explains why Physically Defensive Rotom-W is the best Rotom-W set. It checks Talonflame, Mega Pinsir and Azumarill who all run rampant in the OU tier. It also walls the annoying physical Jirachi, and FSM's Snatch set who I like to run counters Calm Mind.

Also, it wasn't a 2HKO after Lefties. Even with two max rolls.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on August 06, 2014, 04:54:44 AM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on August 06, 2014, 03:42:36 AMI based the 70% on my experience on the higher portion of the tier. I wouldn't base my words on the Usage button on Smogon Damage Calc, a month back it suggested a Flame Plate Victini to me. The noobs usually just click the "suggested ev spread". The majority of Smogon Forums also agrees and explains why Physically Defensive Rotom-W is the best Rotom-W set. It checks Talonflame, Mega Pinsir and Azumarill who all run rampant in the OU tier. It also walls the annoying physical Jirachi, and FSM's Snatch set who I like to run counters Calm Mind.
Usage stats. (http://sweepercalc.com/stats/) That show what a majority of people are using. What you're more likely to encounter.

QuoteAlso, it wasn't a 2HKO after Lefties. Even with two max rolls.
Rotom-W can't use Leftovers if it has been Tricked an Iron Ball.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on August 06, 2014, 05:27:01 AM
You're ignoring the fact that OU and Ubers are filled with noobs who suck ass at teambuilding and can't get above even 1500 for a reason. Even the folk at Smogon agree that physically defensive is superior.

Also Sand Veil Garchomp has 13% usage in OU, seems legit.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on August 17, 2014, 09:22:50 AM
ROZ PROGRESS UPDATE ON VGC

ARE YOU WINNING GURL CUZ YOU BETTER BE
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on August 17, 2014, 03:12:57 PM
MANECTRIC'S
ATTACK
MISSEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD



idc if I'm overreacting that makes me so mad
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on August 18, 2014, 11:02:40 PM
Chain Fishing Question:
Do I have to find the same pokemon multiple times in a row for the chain to count, or can I just get any pokemon and it'll count?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 19, 2014, 01:06:48 AM
For chain fishing, just don't break the chain and you'll be good. Do you have a Pokemon with Suction Cups in the front of your team to make sure the chain doesn't break?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on August 19, 2014, 08:22:54 AM
Quote from: Yugi on August 18, 2014, 11:02:40 PMChain Fishing Question:
Do I have to find the same pokemon multiple times in a row for the chain to count, or can I just get any pokemon and it'll count?
A different pokemon indicates a broken chain. If you encounter something new, you've already lost. Try again.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 19, 2014, 10:48:06 AM
No, not for chain fishing. For Poke Radar chaining a new Pokemon means the chain has been broken.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on August 19, 2014, 11:16:19 AM
Oh right. Yeah, haven't done any chain-anything myself since 4th gen.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on August 19, 2014, 05:24:44 PM
Through the power of chain fishing, I have caught... shiny Magikarp...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on August 19, 2014, 06:50:45 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on August 19, 2014, 01:06:48 AMDo you have a Pokemon with Suction Cups in the front of your team to make sure the chain doesn't break?
I didn't but I literally got 17 Luvdiscs in a row before I got bored.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on August 19, 2014, 10:13:25 PM
Ah, just as a reminder, Suction Cups is still important to chain fishing.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 20, 2014, 06:21:59 AM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on August 17, 2014, 09:22:50 AMROZ PROGRESS UPDATE ON VGC

ARE YOU WINNING GURL CUZ YOU BETTER BE

I ended up deliberately losing to my good friend in Round 4 of LCQ. It was almost 7 pm, and I had bought a ticket to the Symphonic Evolutions concert which started at 8... and I didn't want to miss it :(
My friend ended up not qualifiying and missing the Symphony >__<
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on August 20, 2014, 06:46:02 AM
I am disappoint. :(

I'm sure Se Jun Park would have that Pachirisu deep up his ass right now if you wouldn't have given up!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on August 20, 2014, 08:19:45 AM
Sejun is definitely the best Pokemon player in the world right now. Not only does he play every format, he's always first on every ladder on the GBU. This guy is amazing! Also when I saw him Sunday morning he was playtesting with 6 3DS's rofl
But yeah I can always kick his butt next year! :D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DonValentino on August 26, 2014, 06:17:20 AM
Well isn't it great? Turns out that Pokkén Fighters, now Pokkén Tournament, is for arcade only. Freaking great. Here's hoping for a Wii U version eventually, but I won't hold my breath though
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Echo on August 26, 2014, 06:22:57 AM
Quote from: DonValentino on August 26, 2014, 06:17:20 AMWell isn't it great? Turns out that Pokkén Fighters, now Pokkén Tournament, is for arcade only. Freaking great. Here's hoping for a Wii U version eventually, but I won't hold my breath though

Pretty much every fighting game in Japan starts out that way, then gets ported to consoles with more features and gets set for international release. I wouldn't worry about a Wii U port eventually.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on August 26, 2014, 06:36:07 AM
"Pokkén"

can I get an amen for that name
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DonValentino on August 26, 2014, 12:29:20 PM
Quote from: Echo on August 26, 2014, 06:22:57 AMPretty much every fighting game in Japan starts out that way, then gets ported to consoles with more features and gets set for international release. I wouldn't worry about a Wii U port eventually.

I really hope that this will also be the case. It looks too awesome to be only a Japan exclusive.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on August 26, 2014, 08:46:47 PM
I don't think it would have gotten an English trailer if it was Japanese exclusive tbh
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on August 26, 2014, 09:12:25 PM
They are testing the Japanese markets to see if it wouldn't be a flop and if it's not, they release it internationally.

They've done it often, most recent case I think is Professor Layton VS. Ace Attorney.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Echo on August 26, 2014, 10:00:58 PM
Pokken was always slated for an international release, this is just how fighting games are usually released in Japan. They release it on arcades for early cash and word of mouth hype, and then sell it on consoles for more money and for international sales since arcades are dead in the West. A lot of Tekken games were released this way.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bankai4life on October 17, 2014, 08:30:53 PM
Gamefreak is taking suggestions for combining all regions into one game!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on October 17, 2014, 08:39:12 PM
no
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 17, 2014, 08:39:20 PM
I have no idea who you are but I'm 600% sure that can't be accurate
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on October 18, 2014, 03:23:08 AM
Spoiler
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Now as a phone background
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Spoiler
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Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FierceDeity on October 19, 2014, 11:20:18 PM
Hahahaha, holy shit that works WAY too well as a background.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bespinben on November 11, 2014, 09:53:10 PM
What glorious thing have I unearthed today in my forum stalking???

Quote from: Olimar12345 on May 24, 2014, 04:39:28 PMI've never played a PMD game before, and I'm thinking about getting Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Gates to Infinity, is this the best game to start with?
Quote from: Olimar12345 on May 24, 2014, 06:11:27 PMThanks for the recommendations, guys. I found a cheap Red Rescue Team that I'll get tomorrow. :J
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on January 19, 2015, 10:23:33 AM
Whenever somebody uses scald it always comes with a burn.  Am I really just that unlucky or does 30% just mean all the time :/
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on January 19, 2015, 10:33:32 AM
did you honestly just write that post
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on January 19, 2015, 10:55:46 AM
no I typed it
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on January 19, 2015, 12:15:37 PM
Going to change around your post just for fun:

Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on January 19, 2015, 10:23:33 AMWhenever somebody paralyzes me I can never move.  Am I really just that unlucky or does 25% just mean all the time :/

Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on January 19, 2015, 10:23:33 AMWhenever somebody confuses me I always attack myself. Am I really just that unlucky or does 50% just mean all the time :/

Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on January 19, 2015, 10:23:33 AMWhenever I use Focus Blast it always misses.  Am I really just that unlucky or does 30% just mean all the time :/

Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on January 19, 2015, 10:23:33 AMWhenever somebody uses Air Slash it always comes with a flinch.  Am I really just that unlucky or does 30% just mean all the time :/

Luck is part of Pokemon. Just accept it, it's not going anywhere.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on January 19, 2015, 12:43:49 PM
2 of those are true
and I'm not even kidding around.  The 4 times someone's used scald on me it's burned
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FierceDeity on January 19, 2015, 01:25:55 PM
4 TIMES OMG SUCH A LARGE SAMPLE
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on January 19, 2015, 01:26:54 PM
Hey, I've also used scald on other people too
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Roz~ on January 19, 2015, 01:30:18 PM
If you don't wanna get burned run Lum/Rawst
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on January 19, 2015, 02:37:06 PM
I ran lum berry on my gardevoire and blue laughed at me when it paralyzed his ferrothorn for some reason
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on April 10, 2015, 05:41:37 PM
http://www.polygon.com/2015/4/10/8339935/pokemon-new-york-tokyo-paris

Incredible article for those of you fairy well-versed in Pokémon. Wasn't sure how much of this stuff was in my head.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bespinben on April 10, 2015, 06:41:05 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on April 10, 2015, 05:41:37 PMhttp://www.polygon.com/2015/4/10/8339935/pokemon-new-york-tokyo-paris
Victini = nuclear bomb
My eyes have been opened.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on April 10, 2015, 07:01:08 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on April 10, 2015, 05:41:37 PMhttp://www.polygon.com/2015/4/10/8339935/pokemon-new-york-tokyo-paris
QuoteThere's a fire-psychic Pokemon named Victini that is described as a man-made weapon
I don't ever recall them saying that Victini was man-made?

Overall, a few inaccuracies, but still pretty good; I especially liked the included maps.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on April 10, 2015, 07:38:52 PM
I've been playing a ton of Pokemon Shuffle and it's so much fun. No idea why some people are upset with this game, it's honestly just as good as Battle Trozei but in a different way.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: AwesomeYears on April 10, 2015, 07:42:04 PM
It's funny that I like Shuffle but not Trozei, probably because Shuffle is similar to P&D
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on April 10, 2015, 07:43:56 PM
Trozei is a lot of quick reflexes and endurance, whereas Shuffle is more strategy and luck. It's really interesting to contrast the two seeing as how they're basically the same engine.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: AwesomeYears on April 10, 2015, 07:47:07 PM
Oh, I'm talking about the original Pokemon Trozei released in 2005/2006.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on April 22, 2015, 08:32:35 PM
Eight years ago today, Pokémon Diamond and Pokémon Pearl were released in the United States. ...wow.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on April 22, 2015, 08:50:12 PM
...I feel old. ._.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on April 22, 2015, 08:51:24 PM
That was the first game I ever pre-ordered ;_;
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: braix on April 22, 2015, 09:07:01 PM
Great game tho
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on April 23, 2015, 12:53:17 PM
What the crap I thought I was older when that came our
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on April 23, 2015, 02:12:49 PM
u can't be that old u just said "what the crap"
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on April 23, 2015, 03:17:20 PM
I don't swear, swearing is unrefined and coarse
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on April 23, 2015, 03:18:16 PM
"What the crap" makes no sense tho it should be "what the heck" at least

idk anyone who would say "what the shit"
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on April 23, 2015, 03:33:28 PM
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on April 23, 2015, 03:17:20 PMI don't swear, swearing is unrefined and coarse
don't tell me my goddamn business
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on April 23, 2015, 03:35:29 PM
I wanna replay Platinum now soon... Sinnoh really was a great region.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Olimar12345 on April 23, 2015, 06:59:41 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on April 23, 2015, 03:18:16 PM"What the crap" makes no sense tho it should be "what the heck" at least

idk anyone who would say "what the shit"

What the shit are you taking about?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on April 23, 2015, 08:47:26 PM
The f word doesn't make any sense either but nobody seems to have told it that
Besides I'm not saying crap to replace a cuss word
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bespinben on April 23, 2015, 09:09:10 PM
what the fishpaste
Spoiler
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Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on April 23, 2015, 09:12:09 PM
Don't you mean what the *dolphin noise*
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on April 23, 2015, 11:05:38 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on April 23, 2015, 09:12:09 PMDon't you mean what the *dolphin noise*
I'm telling Mr. Krabbs.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on April 23, 2015, 11:15:24 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on April 23, 2015, 03:18:16 PMidk anyone who would say "what the shit"
shit up slowpokemon
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on April 23, 2015, 11:58:50 PM
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on April 23, 2015, 03:17:20 PMI don't swear, swearing is unrefined and coarse
Can't you say the same about the bible, if you want to go that way

I think restricting what you want to say because of other people don't like the aesthetic of the word is frivolous. Swears represent pure emotion and I think that's beauty.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on April 24, 2015, 01:26:20 AM
Quote from: Yugi on April 23, 2015, 11:15:24 PMshit up slowpokemon

shitpokemon*
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on April 24, 2015, 02:26:16 AM
shit the shit up
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: fingerz on April 26, 2015, 03:36:27 PM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on April 23, 2015, 11:58:50 PMCan't you say the same about the bible, if you want to go that way
Logic approved. ^^
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Zunawe on May 13, 2015, 12:07:48 AM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on April 23, 2015, 11:58:50 PMSwears represent pure emotion and I think that's beauty.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on April 24, 2015, 01:26:20 AMshitpokemon*
I appreciate that this was how that played out.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on May 13, 2015, 08:45:50 PM
I'm almost halfway through a new playthrough of Pokémon X and I think it's finally starting to sink in: this game is incredible, people. I was one of those who didn't like it the first time I played it (or the second or third) but I'm realizing it's actually a stroke of genius. I'm so glad I finally was able to come around.

BLUE YOU WERE RIGHT ALL ALONG AND IM A DUMB PERSON

Honestly how anyone can call any Pokémon game besides the Gen VI titles the best is so beyond me.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on May 13, 2015, 08:49:18 PM
Uh, I don't think they're the best, but that's my personal opinion.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on May 13, 2015, 09:06:32 PM
clearly gen III is the best and that's not my personal opinion
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on May 13, 2015, 09:15:12 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on May 13, 2015, 08:49:18 PMUh, I don't think they're the best, but that's my personal opinion.

fair
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on May 14, 2015, 12:06:49 AM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on May 13, 2015, 08:45:50 PMI'm almost halfway through a new playthrough of Pokémon X and I think it's finally starting to sink in: this game is incredible, people. I was one of those who didn't like it the first time I played it (or the second or third) but I'm realizing it's actually a stroke of genius. I'm so glad I finally was able to come around.

BLUE YOU WERE RIGHT ALL ALONG AND IM A DUMB PERSON

Honestly how anyone can call any Pokémon game besides the Gen VI titles the best is so beyond me.
what makes you say that? I enjoyed the games, but I'm not sure I'd go as far as calling them the best in the series.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on May 14, 2015, 02:51:08 AM
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on May 13, 2015, 09:06:32 PMclearly gen III is the best and that's not my personal opinion
fair
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on May 14, 2015, 04:35:24 AM
Quote from: K-NiGhT on May 14, 2015, 12:06:49 AMwhat makes you say that? I enjoyed the games, but I'm not sure I'd go as far as calling them the best in the series.

XY & ORAS have more polish and care and thought put into them than the rest of the series combined. That much is clear to me atm. Black and White would probably be my next favorite games after those.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on May 14, 2015, 08:42:02 AM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on May 14, 2015, 04:35:24 AMXY & ORAS have more polish and care and thought put into them than the rest of the series combined. That much is clear to me atm. Black and White would probably be my next favorite games after those.
I see what you're saying, I think. But imo the best games in the series for me were Heartgold and Soulsilver. They still stick out as the best remakes for me. The graphics are incredible for the DS, and it housed so much content just like its originals. Plus when you add all the stuff it added post-Red, you have an insane amount of postgame content that a lot of games before and after them just didn't have imo. I'm playing them again right now and have sunk almost 20 hours into the game, and I only now beat the 8th gym, whereas I could beat most other games in half that time.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on May 14, 2015, 10:19:49 AM
That's fair. I'm about 20 hours into X though and I just beat gym 4. There's more content here than people realize I think. Also I'm going to go ahead and claim that the Trainer customization features in XY are the single greatest features in any Pokémon game.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Latios212 on May 14, 2015, 11:15:03 AM
X and Y were great, but I agree with K-NiGhT, HGSS was the best with a ton of content and my favorite graphics.

Also I think the GB sounds is the single greatest feature in any Pokémon game. My whole childhood, in one tiny key item...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on May 14, 2015, 11:23:59 AM
This is kind of unrelated, but it turns out if you play X without the Exp. Share, it's actually one of the more difficult titles xD everything is fine up until about Geosenge Town and then it gets really difficult. I had made a vow not to grind at all but I had to break it just so I could beat Korrina in the Geosenge Town fight.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: KefkaticFanatic on May 14, 2015, 11:26:46 AM
I actually found it to still be too easy without exp share :x all of the levels are just scaled too low.  The only thing that saves it is that the AI for the stronger trainers/leaders is much better than previous games.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on May 14, 2015, 12:03:47 PM
Eh maybe I'm using weak Pokémon or something but my entire team of six has been wiped out at least five or six times so far and that never happens to me in the older games when I play with the no grinding rule, except at the very beginning of the game.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on May 14, 2015, 12:06:44 PM
Double post, but about the levels thing, it is scaled too low up until about that Geosenge Town part. And even after grinding up to Trainer level at that point, I just finished the Power Plant area, which capped at Lv. 38, while my Pokémon are Lv. 33-34. That's with battling every Trainer on every route, too. So idk
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Hero of Trains on May 14, 2015, 12:17:39 PM
Am I the only person who never uses the exp share? I'm fine with levels in every game. Maybe I'm just used to grinding?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DonValentino on May 14, 2015, 12:31:06 PM
I wanna replay Pokemon. Please convince me which one I should! I have all of 'em except Red and Gold (had Gold but lost it, and now I have two Silvers, heh). Only ones I wouldn't replay are ORAS , because of recency, and RSE, because of ORAS. :J
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: braix on May 14, 2015, 12:50:38 PM
DPP
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on May 14, 2015, 12:51:23 PM
Quote from: Hero of Trains on May 14, 2015, 12:17:39 PMAm I the only person who never uses the exp share? I'm fine with levels in every game. Maybe I'm just used to grinding?
actually pretty much everyone here thinks the exp share is for scrubs.  I use it though because why not


Zorro is right
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on May 14, 2015, 01:06:26 PM
My next Pokemon game I plan to replay will probably be Platinum.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on May 14, 2015, 01:26:03 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on May 13, 2015, 08:45:50 PMBLUE YOU WERE RIGHT ALL ALONG AND IM A DUMB PERSON
slow haven't you learned yet that when one of us has an opinion about how great a game is the other one always seems to come around to that viewpoint sooner or later
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on May 14, 2015, 01:37:03 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on May 14, 2015, 04:35:24 AMXY & ORAS have more polish and care and thought put into them than the rest of the series combined. That much is clear to me atm. Black and White would probably be my next favorite games after those.
Weird, I think the opposite.
rant
I feel like Red & Blue and Ruby, Sapphrie & Emerald, and to some extent Diamond & Pearl are the only games in the entire Pokémon series that have an impressive level of care put into them. For the newer games after BW2, it seems to me like they weren't thinking abobut the players even a little bit, and have completely excluded all the elements to capture the player that they've used earlier in the series.
For me, the one big difference between RSE and ORAS is how RSE throughout the entire game pushes and motivates the player to go on playing, and even play the game several times, while ORAS is a (slow,) boring, easy and monotone way to pass time when you don't have anything else to do. The only good qualities ORAS has (imo) are the ones it has from copying RSE (that weren't destroyed in the adaption process).
^This is all just my opinion though. Maybe I've just aged, but I think the newer games lack soul.

THEY ARE GOOD GAMES THOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THEY REALLY ARE!!!!! I'm just comparing them to my elitist taste in GBA games...
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Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on May 14, 2015, 01:44:56 PM
I kinda agree with Jompa.... gen 6 felt so rushed and not polished to me, they really could've been way better in terms of many things and kind of weren't.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on May 14, 2015, 02:46:50 PM
Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on May 14, 2015, 11:26:46 AMI actually found it to still be too easy without exp share :x all of the levels are just scaled too low.  The only thing that saves it is that the AI for the stronger trainers/leaders is much better than previous games.
yeah screw the new battle ai it's too good
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Hero of Trains on May 14, 2015, 02:51:33 PM
Platinum is my favorite (also my first main series game).
I have a thing against 3D graphics in the new Pokemon games, but I still really like the games themselves (well, it's a Pokemon game, so there's not really another option).
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on May 14, 2015, 03:35:01 PM
Weirdly, I don't think I could disagree more with Jompa's rant. The games certainly don't feel "rushed" to me. As far as Omega Ruby, I have 145-ish hours on my file, and that's the longest I've spent on a single game since Black (170-ish). So I don't think it's monotonous or boring at all. The best features imo were the way they made the original Ruby & Sapphire feel modern, and made the experience overall more enjoyable. Not to mention the new story--Team Magma was so amusing throughout the entire campaign that I was tempted to get Alpha Sapphire too just to experience the Team Aqua story.

I went back and played the first three hours or so of Pokémon Platinum a few weeks ago and it was so dated and so unnecessarily bogged down with things that I had to play one of the newer ones. So I went to Black 2, and I got through six gyms or so before I called it quits, and that was because I realized it was basically like the sixth gen games, except without the modern aspect of the gameplay and graphics. I'm not sure what it is I missed my first time through X (or my two failed attempts to replay it) but suddenly it's there for me. I hope the rest of you can have the same experience too eventually haha
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on May 14, 2015, 03:54:29 PM
I doubt I really will ever like gen 6 in the same way you do, so don't get your hopes up for me.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bespinben on May 14, 2015, 04:24:21 PM
I seem to have knack for liking unliked games (ex: Gates to Infinity), so once I get my hands on a copy of Y version I wouldn't be surprised if I ended up feeling the same way as Slow. Also, just in general observation, I haven't really ever seen Gen VI get the "these Pokémon designs suck" rant that Black/White got, and for understandably good reasons (man is Noivern epic).
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on May 14, 2015, 04:33:08 PM
Gen 6 did have a good pokedex, I'll give it that.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on May 14, 2015, 05:25:33 PM
Never played x or y, don't plan to.  As far as I'm concerned I'm done with Pokemon.  I only got alpha sapphire because it was a remake of the greatest generation.  Pokemon isn't even that great of a game in general


Mystery dungeon isn't that good either
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on May 14, 2015, 05:47:45 PM
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on May 14, 2015, 05:25:33 PMMystery dungeon isn't that good either
you take that back you dirty whore
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Hero of Trains on May 14, 2015, 05:51:55 PM
I have to say, the mystery dungeon mechanics were pretty generic. But it was never about that! It was about the story! The characters! The adventure!
I also love all of the Pokemon games. But that's all just my personal opinion, and you can have yours as well. Even if I don't agree with it. Seriously, why.  >:(
K-Night, you might be overreacting a little bit.  ;)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: braix on May 14, 2015, 06:10:16 PM
Quote from: Hero of Trains on May 14, 2015, 05:51:55 PMK-Night, you might be under reacting a little bit.  ;)
ftfy

Spoiler
NoS take that back, you motherfucking dick suckin fuck knuckled twat greasy haired cuntbag piece of shit go die in a hole
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Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on May 14, 2015, 06:39:20 PM
PMD had sort of flat mechanics, but the story and characters make it worthwhile every time.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Hero of Trains on May 14, 2015, 06:53:41 PM
Yeah, I always get super over attached to my partner. My biggest problem with PMD Let's Plays (like yours) is that it isn't my team.  :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Latios212 on May 14, 2015, 07:01:45 PM
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on May 14, 2015, 05:25:33 PMMystery dungeon isn't that good either
Quote from: Hero of Trains on May 14, 2015, 05:51:55 PMI have to say, the mystery dungeon mechanics were pretty generic.
Quote from: Nebbles on May 14, 2015, 06:39:20 PMPMD had sort of flat mechanics
Really...? I actually enjoy leisurely doing missions in PMD quite a bit more than the main series games... I enjoy dungeon crawling way more than just straight up battling... In my eyes there's more things to do than just select one or four moves and the randomness keeps me on my toes.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on May 14, 2015, 07:14:26 PM
PMD is pretty flat gameplay, but it's the sort of monotony that's almost comforting if that makes sense. There's not as much strategy as there is in Pokémon battles, but it's kind of pleasant to just spend a few hours dungeon crawling.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Hero of Trains on May 14, 2015, 07:14:38 PM
Not like that! I mean generic for the genre of dungeon crawlers. It didn't bring anything very revolutionary to the table, while Pokemon is, well, Pokemon. The game mechanic is very fun, and I really like it.  :)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on May 14, 2015, 07:48:13 PM
I usually name my PMD partners after my friends. Makes the ending more emotional.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on May 14, 2015, 07:49:43 PM
In all the Mystery Dungeon games I've played I picked my partner to be weak against the type of the Pokemon I was given. I anticipated a plot twist where I'd have to fight my partner and I wanted the advantage, but it never happened and I ended up accidentally killing him a ton of times with misplaced attacks.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on May 14, 2015, 08:09:57 PM
ORAS > XY
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yug_Guy on May 14, 2015, 08:11:01 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on May 14, 2015, 04:33:08 PMGen 6 did have a good pokedex, I'll give it that.
Really? (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Barbaracle_(Pok%C3%A9mon))
...okay, that was an extreme example. Gen 6 was actually pretty solid

Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on May 14, 2015, 05:25:33 PMMystery dungeon isn't that good either
Dungeon crawlers tend to be more of a niche genre. Either you like it or you don't. As a kid, I wasn't phased by the first PMD game, so I guess that means I thought it was good.
Man, I need to play that game again...

Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on May 14, 2015, 08:09:57 PMORAS > XY
YUS I never want to experience anything like Lumiose City ever again...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on May 14, 2015, 08:14:43 PM
Despite how much I like gen 4, its Pokedex was definitely not the best. Too many evolutions of older Pokemon... there's a few I liked, but that was it. The extra baby Pokemon were unneeded.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on May 14, 2015, 08:21:18 PM
I liked the gen 4 evolutions, they were really needed
mega evolutions get points for being an unimaginative solution
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yug_Guy on May 14, 2015, 08:24:43 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on May 14, 2015, 08:14:43 PMDespite how much I like gen 4, its Pokedex was definitely not the best. Too many evolutions of older Pokemon... there's a few I liked, but that was it. The extra baby Pokemon were unneeded.
I thought Gen 4 was awesome! The thing that really gets me about the baby Pokemon though is the fact that you can't obtain them naturally through breeding. Really?! Isn't that why they're call BABY Pokemon?! It makes no sense! /rant
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on May 14, 2015, 08:25:34 PM
I love gen 4 too! I just thought some of the Pokemon were a bit silly. But Gen 4 was really, really great and I do adore it.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on May 14, 2015, 08:41:22 PM
Oh gawd in general XY Pokédex was fine but Binacle/Barbaracle give me gross feelings whenever I see them
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DonValentino on May 15, 2015, 04:35:09 AM
Quote from: braixen1264 on May 14, 2015, 12:50:38 PMDPP

Nuff said then. I'll replay Platinum. Thanks :J
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on May 15, 2015, 09:26:52 AM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on May 14, 2015, 08:41:22 PMOh gawd in general XY Pokédex was fine but Binacle/Barbaracle give me gross feelings whenever I see them
this. Also, Klefki was kinda silly.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on May 15, 2015, 11:07:01 AM
Actually I like Klefki for some reason xD the only designs that I'm iffy about from XY besides Binacle and Barbaracle are Diggersby and Aromatisse, especially Diggersby. I didn't much care for Gourgeist or Avalugg either but idk
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on May 15, 2015, 11:13:19 AM
hey don't you talk smack about my boo-boo keys
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on May 15, 2015, 12:27:25 PM
anyone notice we're on the 255th page
pretty sure that's an important number for you competitive types
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jompa on May 15, 2015, 12:51:59 PM
I don't like Aromatisse either, but that's just because in Norwegian "tisse" means "to pee".
Not the best combination of words...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on May 15, 2015, 04:19:07 PM
aroma pee

even better aroma piss
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on May 15, 2015, 04:30:50 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on May 15, 2015, 11:13:19 AMhey don't you talk smack about my boo-boo keys
qft
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bespinben on May 15, 2015, 06:24:16 PM
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on May 14, 2015, 05:25:33 PMMystery dungeon isn't that good either
......blasphemy!

Spoiler
Sick 'em boys

Spoiler
Quote from: K-NiGhT on May 14, 2015, 05:47:45 PMyou take that back you !@#$@#$%^%^*&*()
Quote from: braixen1264 on May 14, 2015, 06:10:16 PMNoS take that back, you !$@#$@#$%^%^*&*(&*)$%^&@#$%!@#$!@#$@#^[/size]
Spoiler
Good boys
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The underground in Gen IV was so much fun. Had so much fun stealing flags from my bro's base.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: braix on May 15, 2015, 06:30:47 PM
My base was awesome
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Hero of Trains on May 15, 2015, 07:52:17 PM
My neighbor and I had so much fun with that! I was always a better trainer, but it was more even in the underground.  :)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DonValentino on May 17, 2015, 07:32:20 AM
So, I restarted Pokemon Pearl. Just realized how much I missed it!

Location: Floaroma Town
Badges: 1

Team:
- Piplup Lv. 14
- Starly Lv. 10
- Shinx Lv. 10
- Zubat Lv. 10
- Onix Lv. 10

Notes: I already have a Lv. 76 Luxray on Diamond, so I'll probably drop Shinx in favor of Pachirisu. Anyways, it's a good Pokemon to have so far. Caught Zubat and Onix because I plan on getting a Crobat and a Steelix later on, but I'm not very sure if I'll keep them on my team... On the other hand, I really think I'll keep Starly.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on May 17, 2015, 11:07:45 AM
if we're doing that I got my emerald emulator going again and I'm in oldale town with
Marshtomp Lv. 22
Linoone Lv. 20
Ralts Lv. 18
Lombre Lv. 14
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on May 17, 2015, 11:40:33 AM
*casually jumps on bandwagon*
I'm in the Snowbelle City Gym in X, and since I haven't been using Exp. Share my levels are kind of low.

Chippy / Chesnaught Lv. 53 (M)
Flora / Florges Lv. 50 (F)
Nala / Pyroar Lv. 50 (F)
Bartleby / Blastoise Lv. 50 (M)
Twinkay / Malamar Lv. 50 (M)
Sparkles / Raichu Lv. 50 (M)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: TheDreamingHawk on May 17, 2015, 02:23:43 PM
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on May 14, 2015, 05:25:33 PMNever played x or y, don't plan to.  As far as I'm concerned I'm done with Pokemon.  I only got alpha sapphire because it was a remake of the greatest generation.  Pokemon isn't even that great of a game in general


Mystery dungeon isn't that good either

While I do have the unpopular opinion of not liking ORAS at all, (which I cannot stand due to the lack of challenge, no battle Battle Frontier, and not many extra things to do which makes me incredibly furious at Game Freak since HGSS was a remake done right.) I'll politely state that PMD is a fantastic series that deserves more attention. Radio drama, CD drama, Anime, Manga, SOMETHING.

Hopefully those final two Gen VI games redeem this generation... Though since they haven't been announced yet, I'm kinda hoping it means we won't get a main series game this year so they can have more time to work on it and make it as great as HGSS/BW2.

Speaking of which, I'm attending VGC regionals in two weeks! Hopefully my team will do decently at least, since I'm not the most competitive person around. Who knows, if I get super lucky I may get to go to worlds so I can tell Masuda to help release Pokemon Mystery Dungeon on the Wii U Virtual Console.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on May 17, 2015, 02:29:35 PM
Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on May 17, 2015, 02:23:43 PMWhile I do have the unpopular opinion of not liking ORAS at all, (which I cannot stand due to the lack of challenge, no battle Battle Frontier, and not many extra things to do which makes me incredibly furious at Game Freak since HGSS was a remake done right.) I'll politely state that PMD is a fantastic series that deserves more attention. Radio drama, CD drama, Anime, Manga, SOMETHING.

Hopefully those final two Gen VI games redeem this generation... Though since they haven't been announced yet, I'm kinda hoping it means we won't get a main series game this year so they can have more time to work on it and make it as great as HGSS/BW2.

Speaking of which, I'm attending regionals in two weeks! Hopefully my team will do decently at least, since I'm not the most competitive person around.
Mystery dungeon has no boring post game and no replayability.  The only redeeming quality is the great storylines that they usually cook up, I'll admit I like the story, maybe they should write a book
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Maelstrom on May 17, 2015, 02:51:10 PM
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on May 17, 2015, 02:29:35 PMMystery dungeon has no boring post game and no replayability.  The only redeeming quality is the great storylines that they usually cook up, I'll admit I like the story, maybe they should write a book
Well, it's a Chunsoft (Now Spike Chunsoft) game so, what do you expect?
Play 999
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on May 17, 2015, 03:39:38 PM
Never heard of them.  Anyone else find Pickup invaluable during the early part of the game?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yug_Guy on May 17, 2015, 04:35:15 PM
Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on May 17, 2015, 02:23:43 PMI'll politely state that PMD is a fantastic series that deserves more attention. Radio drama, CD drama, Anime, Manga, SOMETHING.
The first PMD games did get a one-episode anime special before their release. I want to say that the others did as well, but I don't know for sure.

But yes, PMD for sure needs some other adaption. The whole "suddenly I'm a Pokemon" idea is just fascinating.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on May 17, 2015, 04:48:17 PM
I'm playing Heartgold

Badges- 8

Team
Feraligatr
Noctowl
Jolteon
Nidoking
Arcanine
Dragonair

Levels between 45-50
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DonValentino on May 18, 2015, 06:11:18 AM
Update.

Location: Road to Hearthome - From Eterna
Badges: 2

Team:
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.pokemondb.net%2Fsprites%2Fblack-white%2Fanim%2Fnormal%2Fcombee-f.gif&hash=52d43653f3b2fb7a6cd330e7232e866698b247f8) ♀ Lv. 18
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.pokemondb.net%2Fsprites%2Fblack-white%2Fanim%2Fnormal%2Fzubat.gif&hash=611db1e98c6f3461e156cce7fb6a7f3256e8c9b5) ♂ Lv. 18
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.pokemondb.net%2Fsprites%2Fblack-white%2Fanim%2Fnormal%2Fstaravia.gif&hash=db132d455273feb7e38676ff4acc7119498cb2b9) ♂ Lv. 19
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.pokemondb.net%2Fsprites%2Fblack-white%2Fanim%2Fnormal%2Fpachirisu.gif&hash=882f37b024d6846749d30d2456d3dc06e3c22ad8) ♂ Lv. 18
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.pokemondb.net%2Fsprites%2Fblack-white%2Fanim%2Fnormal%2Fonix.gif&hash=c66565bc081003da6f42c798e619cee2ab635036) ♀ Lv. 18
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.pokemondb.net%2Fsprites%2Fblack-white%2Fanim%2Fnormal%2Fmisdreavus.gif&hash=92359e3062ec6a492719639e9d42e5a00d84431f) ♀ Lv. 18


Currently out of the team:
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.pokemondb.net%2Fsprites%2Fblack-white%2Fanim%2Fnormal%2Fshinx.gif&hash=0ca8a40a7aa5a851403995e691c2d6f805af3ad3) ♂ Lv. 13
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.pokemondb.net%2Fsprites%2Fblack-white%2Fanim%2Fnormal%2Fpiplup.gif&hash=513d185345f8c2e88ca943ade3d86cb4be6b9461) ♂ Lv. 15


Notes: Replacing Shinx with Pachirisu was kinda planned, but Combee really messed up my team, since now I really want to have a Vespiquen.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DonValentino on May 20, 2015, 02:47:55 PM
Update 2!

Location: Pastoria City
Badges: 3 (Crasher's instead of Maylene's)

Team:
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.pokemondb.net%2Fsprites%2Fblack-white%2Fanim%2Fnormal%2Fvespiquen.gif&hash=9698e878e3833d4722fc4686cb63ed752eca07b8) ♀ Lv. 23
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.pokemondb.net%2Fsprites%2Fblack-white%2Fanim%2Fnormal%2Fcrobat.gif&hash=fd8f35e5e82aed662a3e28e02583f3e4f8a9def6) ♂ Lv. 25 (Training a Lvl. 4 Zubat is worth it!! Yay for early Crobats)
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.pokemondb.net%2Fsprites%2Fblack-white%2Fanim%2Fnormal%2Fstaravia.gif&hash=db132d455273feb7e38676ff4acc7119498cb2b9) ♂ Lv. 24
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.pokemondb.net%2Fsprites%2Fblack-white%2Fanim%2Fnormal%2Fpachirisu.gif&hash=882f37b024d6846749d30d2456d3dc06e3c22ad8) ♂ Lv. 26
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.pokemondb.net%2Fsprites%2Fblack-white%2Fanim%2Fnormal%2Fonix.gif&hash=c66565bc081003da6f42c798e619cee2ab635036) ♀ Lv. 25
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.pokemondb.net%2Fsprites%2Fblack-white%2Fanim%2Fnormal%2Fmisdreavus.gif&hash=92359e3062ec6a492719639e9d42e5a00d84431f) ♀ Lv. 25


Notes: Well thanks to the insane amount of trainers from Routes 210, 211, 212, 213 and 214, this escalated pretty quickly. And I still haven't even tackled Route 215 yet!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on May 20, 2015, 03:21:05 PM
oh dang that crobat
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on May 20, 2015, 07:27:01 PM
I think I'm officially ready to declare Malamar and Inkay my favorite gen VI Pokémon. They're just so cute and so awesome. And using a Superpower + Contrary combo my recent X playthrough was so much fun.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on May 20, 2015, 07:34:08 PM
Superpower + Contrary is so damn good.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on May 21, 2015, 02:08:10 AM
it's not that good on any of the mons you can run that on :/
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DonValentino on May 21, 2015, 02:47:49 AM
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on May 20, 2015, 03:21:05 PMoh dang that crobat

Yup. I love it already xD
Totally gonna transfer it to X/Y or ORAS.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on May 21, 2015, 06:52:17 AM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on May 21, 2015, 02:08:10 AMit's not that good on any of the mons you can run that on :/

I really like using it on Malamar! Because it gets Psycho Cut and Night Slash which become pretty powerful after a couple Attack boosts, and its Attack and Defense are pretty good in the first place.

Also unrelated, I love the Topsy-Turvy move those two get. It's so tricky.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Hero of Trains on May 21, 2015, 06:56:16 AM
I like Inkay way too much because of chain fishing.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on May 21, 2015, 07:25:35 AM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on May 21, 2015, 06:52:17 AMI really like using it on Malamar! Because it gets Psycho Cut and Night Slash which become pretty powerful after a couple Attack boosts, and its Attack and Defense are pretty good in the first place.
It's fun in the main story, but it only has 5-8 PP which kinda gets annoying when they run out!

But Nebbles seemed to overestimate how great it actually is in like battles against human players
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: blueflower999 on May 21, 2015, 07:58:17 AM
It's obviously the best when you get a n00b in NU that you can sweep with Contrary Spinda
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: TheDreamingHawk on May 21, 2015, 08:19:57 AM
Quote from: Yug_Guy on May 17, 2015, 04:35:15 PMThe first PMD games did get a one-episode anime special before their release. I want to say that the others did as well, but I don't know for sure.

But yes, PMD for sure needs some other adaption. The whole "suddenly I'm a Pokemon" idea is just fascinating.

The first three did get anime specials, though they were lackluster compared to Pokemon Chronicles and (More recently) Origins because in the case of the first and second ones they didn't cover much of a story, but in the third special it did cover the penultimate boss battle extremely well, though I still am incredibly upset that they skipped through 75% of the main story, just throwing the viewers into the action without any summary. If Ys could shorten it's entire second game into a full length made for TV movie then you'd think PMD should be able to do it easily.

GTI kinda had an anime special, but it was more or less an animated highlight reel and it was super short, making it incredibly disappointing. It also had no manga to go along with it like the first two games did.

Speaking of which am I the only one excited for SPMD? It seems on other sites people are incredibly upset it isn't X2/Y2 because of the bitterness towards GTI (Which I still blame on nostalgia for EOT/EOD ).
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on May 21, 2015, 08:36:46 AM
Quote from: Waddle Bro on May 21, 2015, 07:25:35 AMIt's fun in the main story, but it only has 5-8 PP which kinda gets annoying when they run out!

But Nebbles seemed to overestimate how great it actually is in like battles against human players

I love using it against others too! Idk I really like it :> I'm glad I decided to train Inkay

And yeah, Hawk, I loved GTI too. It took me a while to get there with it but it is a really great game and my personal favorite Mystery Dungeon now.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on May 21, 2015, 08:40:00 AM
Speaking of Mystery Dungeon... (http://www.marriland.com/news/5432-pokemon-super-mystery-dungeon-announced-for-winter)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Hero of Trains on May 21, 2015, 08:47:02 AM
If there was an actual PMD anime that was all of the scenes from the game stitched together, I would love it to death. The most amazing (and completely impractical) thing they could do would be to make it so that you could choose which Pokemon were the hero and partner. I always get startled when it's not my team, and if they did make it my team I would just cry.

I am so incredibly hyped for SPMD. I already told all of my friends, even if they don't play Pokemon. When I first read about it, I squealed in the middle of English. I am very excited for this game.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Latios212 on May 21, 2015, 08:55:16 AM
Quote from: Hero of Trains on May 21, 2015, 08:47:02 AMI am so incredibly hyped for SPMD. I already told all of my friends, even if they don't play Pokemon. When I first read about it, I squealed in the middle of English. I am very excited for this game.
It's been like three hours and I'm still freaking out inside
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on May 21, 2015, 12:03:37 PM
Oh I REALLY hope it's good since I didn't like Gates to Infinity all too much...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DonValentino on May 21, 2015, 12:10:23 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on May 21, 2015, 12:03:37 PMOh I REALLY hope it's good since I didn't like Gates to Infinity all too much...

Hmm, I was about to post the same thing
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: TheDreamingHawk on May 21, 2015, 12:28:49 PM
Quote from: Hero of Trains on May 21, 2015, 08:47:02 AMIf there was an actual PMD anime that was all of the scenes from the game stitched together, I would love it to death. The most amazing (and completely impractical) thing they could do would be to make it so that you could choose which Pokemon were the hero and partner. I always get startled when it's not my team, and if they did make it my team I would just cry.

I agree. Someone should make an OVA of one of the PMD games that covers the whole story, like Pokemon Origins. I think they can get around the issue of the player and partner by giving them both unique names, so that attachment would go to the character instead of the species. I wish I could animate...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Hero of Trains on May 21, 2015, 01:42:02 PM
Yeah, that could work. They'd better give them good names though. Actually, you know what would crack me up? If they chose names of other Nintendo characters. Imagine seeing Zelda and Link, or Mario and Luigi.
I think everyone wishes that they could animate.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on May 21, 2015, 02:48:19 PM
I CAME HERE TO SHOUT ABOUT
http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-video-games/pokemon-super-mystery-dungeon/

but you guys already know about it lol
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: TheDreamingHawk on May 21, 2015, 03:05:36 PM
Quote from: Hero of Trains on May 21, 2015, 01:42:02 PMYeah, that could work. They'd better give them good names though. Actually, you know what would crack me up? If they chose names of other Nintendo characters. Imagine seeing Zelda and Link, or Mario and Luigi.
I think everyone wishes that they could animate.

I always thought Grovyle and Celebi from Explorers had a lot in similarity with Link and Zelda to be honest. Heck, Grovyle being a "hero of time" with a green leaf that looks like Link's hat makes me think Spike Chunsoft chose a Grovyle to fit the role for that very reason!

Speaking of characters I wonder what SPMD's characters will be... Hopefully there won't be any forgettable ones like Team Tasty, Officer Magnezone and Team Skull from Explorers, Slowking & Everybody from Wiiware PMD, and Scraggy and Quaqsire from GTI.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Hero of Trains on May 21, 2015, 03:23:07 PM
Wow, I never noticed that. That's actually really cool!

I just want my Charmander back. I would loooove having Charmander. I want to be a Charmander again. Also, is it a problem that I know all of the characters that you mentioned(except for the ones from the wiiware game, I didn't play that one)? :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on May 21, 2015, 11:22:22 PM
So many Pokémon fans here
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DonValentino on May 22, 2015, 05:18:12 AM
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpds21.egloos.com%2Fpds%2F201311%2F01%2F17%2Fc0056717_527312352a7e9.jpg&hash=700d8040a3c96ac1ebd02fae887d1f930496f036)

Completely off topic picture I just found, but it's hilarious xD
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DonValentino on May 24, 2015, 05:46:31 AM
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Funrealitymag.bcmediagroup.netdna-cdn.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F01%2Fpokemon-x-animal-crossing-2-500x755.jpg&hash=2617f221394b8f5a2246294d4a2a0d6a67a06f7e)

Pokemon x AC? Simply brilliant.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on May 24, 2015, 07:34:07 AM
Is that supposed to be a honchrow

Looks like a bird with a fedora

Agent B
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on May 24, 2015, 06:45:25 PM
Pokémon Emerald!
Location: Petalburg Woods
Badges: 0

Lombre Lv20
Marshtomp Lv22
Kirlia Lv20
Linoone Lv20
Shroomish? Lv6  (I might drop him)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Hero of Trains on May 24, 2015, 09:03:10 PM
No, get a Breloom. Brelooms are the best.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on May 24, 2015, 09:12:36 PM
Breloom is fantastic. And totally adorable.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on May 24, 2015, 09:21:33 PM
yeah but I've done that shtick before and he's pretty weak to status effects, I'd subpunch him but others do that so much better

plus it'd take so much work to get him up to level and I'm lazy
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on May 31, 2015, 09:54:29 PM
Anyone have a hidden ability (Multiscale) Dratini I could get an egg from?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DonValentino on June 04, 2015, 02:00:51 PM
Final Update!!

Location: Pokemon League
Badges: 8

Team:

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.pokemondb.net%2Fsprites%2Fblack-white%2Fanim%2Fnormal%2Fvespiquen.gif&hash=9698e878e3833d4722fc4686cb63ed752eca07b8) ♀ Lv. 44
- Vespiquen is a beast with Toxic, Heal Order, Attack Order and Power Gem, and even if it doesn't have good speed, I'm very happy with it!


(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.pokemondb.net%2Fsprites%2Fblack-white%2Fanim%2Fnormal%2Fcrobat.gif&hash=fd8f35e5e82aed662a3e28e02583f3e4f8a9def6) ♂ Lv. 45
- What can I say? You can't go wrong with one 8)


(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.pokemondb.net%2Fsprites%2Fblack-white%2Fanim%2Fnormal%2Fgastrodon-east.gif&hash=164198fa830ac7f318b4746ac7e473620254e945) ♂ Lv. 46
- Late addition, originally a Shellos, since I didn't have any Surf-capable Pokemon before. My choices were Floatzel or Gastrodon, but I picked Gastrodon because of electric immunity. It replaced Staravia. Nice stats


(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.pokemondb.net%2Fsprites%2Fblack-white%2Fanim%2Fnormal%2Frapidash.gif&hash=1bcdd67a874723560d92a8a42e0c21241d140e6d) ♀ Lv. 44
- UGH RAPIDASH! It's good, but goddamn it, it doesn't learn any physical Fire type move in Gen IV aside from Flare Blitz at level 58 ASFNKJEFNKEJAKJE!! Replaced Pachirisu because I felt it was too weak (dropped at lvl. 33). Totally gonna transfer it so it can have Flame Wheel at least, geez, now I can only rely on Stomp for flinching and Fire Blast...


(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.pokemondb.net%2Fsprites%2Fblack-white%2Fanim%2Fnormal%2Fsteelix-f.gif&hash=2e243f47efb6d84c44eee275216faf272dae4909) ♀ Lv. 45
- Another beast of my team, godlike defense and impressive attack.  It's the first time I train an Onix from lvl 10 and keep it on my team all the way to a Steelix. Totally worth it, I'm very proud of this girl!


(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.pokemondb.net%2Fsprites%2Fblack-white%2Fanim%2Fnormal%2Fmismagius.gif&hash=aeaf8df5167bbe72c2117df019347d45099fd018) ♀ Lv. 45
- And Mismagius closes the team. Well, not much to say, I always like a Ghost poke in my team 'cause Ghost is my favorite type! I was about to get a Drifblim, but in the end I kept Misdreavus.


Closing words: What a fun journey... Now I like Team Galactic a little more (and Barry a little less, man, what a hyperactive brat, he battles you in the worst and most unexpected moments). I'm not going to bother beating the Elite Four because I'm not really interested in the post-game right now and I'd like to play other games. Now it's just toughening up the team, but I'd rather transfer it and do that in ORAS or XY. So most probably I'll drop Pearl and start Black or Black 2 anew like I did with it.

Mainly because now I have a terrible need to have a Krookodile called... K. Rookodile!
*badum-tss* No? Nobody? Ok, I'll leave now...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on June 04, 2015, 03:53:54 PM
Quote from: DonValentino on June 04, 2015, 02:00:51 PMMainly because now I have a terrible need to have a Krookodile called... K. Rookodile!
*badum-tss* No? Nobody? Ok, I'll leave now...
*falls to the floor, groaning in pain*
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on June 04, 2015, 05:59:51 PM
But you have to do the post game
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DonValentino on June 05, 2015, 02:01:11 AM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on June 04, 2015, 03:53:54 PM*falls to the floor, groaning in pain*

*giggle*

Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on June 04, 2015, 05:59:51 PMBut you have to do the post game

Is it necessary to transfer pokes? I can't remember right now... Well if I have to I'll just trade my team from Diamond for the Elite, which is around 70-80 I think.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: AwesomeYears on June 06, 2015, 01:09:50 AM
Being trying to beat Mega Mawile, couldn't get past half health with my current team, so gonna fetch Charizard and Moltres. Got Charizard currently, but Moltres is suprisingly hard.

Edit: Nevermind, beat her with LV5 Lopunny, LV5 Lucario, LV4 Charizard & LV5 Charmeleon
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on June 06, 2015, 03:15:14 PM
I feel like doing some sort of challenge/different Pokemon run... like either a romhack of sorts, or a nuzlocke, idk. Was debating either Platinum, Crystal (doing a randomizer nuzlocke for either) or a romhack of a gen 1 game.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on June 07, 2015, 04:25:06 PM
When doing a nuzlocke do I have to catch the first poke in an area or can I skip it
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on June 07, 2015, 04:36:45 PM
You have to catch the first Pokemon in the area.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on June 07, 2015, 04:49:00 PM
What happens if I fail to catch it

And can I get rid of it
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Maelstrom on June 07, 2015, 04:55:10 PM
Yes, but you can't catch another in the same area.

You don't NEED to catch it, but you can't catch a different one in the same area.

And there is the duplicate clause, which states you can not count a pokemon as the first if you have already caught one of that type.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on June 07, 2015, 05:00:55 PM
Ok I don't NEED to catch it, that's what I wanted to know
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on June 07, 2015, 05:01:49 PM
You shouldn't be picky in a Nuzlocke though. That's what gets you killed.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on June 07, 2015, 05:02:51 PM
Son I ain't about to train no caterpie for my team
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on June 07, 2015, 05:49:17 PM
But butterfree is actually okay in the early game, you should at least keep it around for then.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on June 07, 2015, 07:13:43 PM
Butter free doesn't do anything tbh
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on June 07, 2015, 07:29:52 PM
Sometimes I'm reminded of how dense you can be.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FierceDeity on June 07, 2015, 08:47:43 PM
roughly 985kg/m3, for future reference
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Maelstrom on June 07, 2015, 08:53:08 PM
Quote from: FierceDeity on June 07, 2015, 08:47:43 PMroughly 985kg/m3, for future reference
*googles*
Well played.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on June 07, 2015, 08:55:55 PM
Quote from: FierceDeity on June 07, 2015, 08:47:43 PMroughly 985kg/m3, for future reference
Good job. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbzyQQrZe8U)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: AwesomeYears on June 07, 2015, 09:05:21 PM
Speaking of nuzlockes, I should get Pokemon Insurgence and do an Egglocke, could be so much fun :D

Oh yeah, and fuck Mega Glalie ;(
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on June 07, 2015, 09:32:11 PM
What would the butter free even be for
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yug_Guy on June 07, 2015, 09:36:39 PM
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on June 07, 2015, 09:32:11 PMWhat would the butter free even be for
Butterfree can learn Poisonpowder, Sleep Powder, and Stun Spore all at once, meaning that it is an unparalleled status-inflicter. Couple that with Confusion and you can easily catch and defeat most other Pokemon in the early game. 
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on June 07, 2015, 10:11:50 PM
Except it's a nuzlocke so I don't need to catch Pokemon, and it's not like defeating them was hard to begin with
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yugi on June 07, 2015, 10:31:04 PM
Quote from: AwesomeYears on June 07, 2015, 09:05:21 PMOh yeah, and fuck Mega Glalie ;(
hahahahaha oh man yeah fuck mega glalie

(grind up on money and get every item you can get for that stage, it becomes much easier)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on June 07, 2015, 10:35:42 PM
You underestimate how easily a Nuzlocke can fuck you over, though.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: AwesomeYears on June 08, 2015, 05:10:17 AM
Quote from: Yugi on June 07, 2015, 10:31:04 PMhahahahaha oh man yeah fuck mega glalie
Don't worry, I've completed that stage with some help of one of my two free Complexity -1. Also, beat caught Giratina on Stage 5! (5% chance)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Hero of Trains on June 08, 2015, 05:47:29 AM
I've played way too much of that game. I already finished all the levels and am now working on catching everything. :P
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: JDMEK5 on June 08, 2015, 07:29:42 AM
Quote from: Hero of Trains on June 08, 2015, 05:47:29 AMI've played way too much of that game. I already finished all the levels and am now working on catching everything. :P
Hey yeah does anyone here (besides us I guess) actually go for completing the pokedex?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on June 08, 2015, 09:59:38 AM
I try to in emerald but I can't do it without hax
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Yug_Guy on June 08, 2015, 01:06:41 PM
Quote from: JDMEK5 on June 08, 2015, 07:29:42 AMHey yeah does anyone here (besides us I guess) actually go for completing the pokedex?
Nope. I don't like to go through any of the trouble.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on June 08, 2015, 01:12:27 PM
I completed it in Pokemon Y, and... not worth the effort. At all.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Bespinben on June 08, 2015, 02:15:36 PM
Worth a read -- "I caught every Pokémon and it only took most of my life"

http://www.polygon.com/2014/8/21/6052553/how-to-catch-every-pokemon
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Latios212 on June 08, 2015, 02:32:32 PM
I completed it in Black and then again in Y. I proceeded to organize one of everything in 24 boxes of Pokébank.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Jub3r7 on June 08, 2015, 11:15:53 PM
I completed all the regional dex in Y and now I can't find my Y game. I'm trying not to think too hard about the pokemon trapped inside, and the memories we had together.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: AwesomeYears on June 08, 2015, 11:47:54 PM
Quote from: Jub3r7 on June 08, 2015, 11:15:53 PMI completed all the regional dex in Y and now I can't find my Y game. I'm trying not to think too hard about the pokemon trapped inside, and the memories we had together.
Same with me and my Platnium game (it was my first Pokemon game as well :'(
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: FierceDeity on June 09, 2015, 05:28:36 PM
I'd damn near finished my national dex in Pearl a couple years ago (the most recent addition having been porygon-Z which I'd just spent a shitload of time in leaf green farming the casino for the porygon), then some fucker in band borrowed my DS on the bus and lost my game. ON A BUS. IT WAS NOWHERE TO BE FOUND.

To this day I've never again felt compelled to complete a pokedex.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: DonValentino on June 10, 2015, 03:20:36 AM
Quote from: FierceDeity on June 09, 2015, 05:28:36 PMI'd damn near finished my national dex in Pearl a couple years ago (the most recent addition having been porygon-Z which I'd just spent a shitload of time in leaf green farming the casino for the porygon), then some fucker in band borrowed my DS on the bus and lost my game. ON A BUS. IT WAS NOWHERE TO BE FOUND.

To this day I've never again felt compelled to complete a pokedex.

Ouch, that hurts.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on June 10, 2015, 07:37:16 PM
My wartortle died so I quit the nuzlocke because I spent way too much time grinding it for it to die to a crit Thrash from a gyara 10 levels below it
I mean I still had other pokemon but they were only like level 25 or 26 and it would have taken way too much time to find another good one to replace it
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: WillieZinn on June 10, 2015, 10:07:06 PM
From then seen It was quite good.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: TheDreamingHawk on July 02, 2015, 08:53:29 PM
So recently I picked up a Dragonite code during my trip to the nearby city, and today I was about to redeem it before suddenly remembering why I can't stand ORAS due to many reasons, but I won't go into them here since it always seems I'm the only one with that opinion regarding ORAS.

I'm honestly not sure if I want to redeem the code or not, since I probably won't do anything with it anyway since there's nothing to do after the Delta Episode. I went to regionals a while ago and lost horribly, and I'm still furious about how there won't be any more Video Game events that I can attend for at least a year.

It seems that my time at regionals was the best time I had playing ORAS period, which I'm not sure is a good thing since I spent about 80 hours getting bored before then. In RS I'd always go to the Game Corner, Battle Tower or the contests, but the Game Corner and the Battle Tower are gone and the contests are incredibly easy, so I'm just really, really bored. This ia coming from a long time fan that completed the National Dex in X, so if I'm unable to be entertained by a main series game I don't know what to do. I really, really want to sell it but the exclusive mega evolutions and the fact that it's the only game allowed in Play Pokemon for this year and next year make me unable to.

...So I guess what I'm saying is, what should I do in ORAS to keep me entertained, give me a good challenge and keep me occupied for the summer? Everything I had fun with in Emerald and RS was either removed for no reason or made incredibly easy. Please tell me you can rematch trainers at level 80 or something like that in a place besides the Elite Four (And I'm not even sure if they are level 80.), as I'm unsure what to do until the next tournament rolls around...
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Echo on July 02, 2015, 09:04:28 PM
^ I'll take that code if you don't want it. But yeah, for Gen 6 pretty much the only reason I pick up any of the games is when I wanna do multiplayer. I completed X/Y at least, but in Omega Ruby, after I got the Mega Bracelet I just stopped going through the main game after that lol.

I dunno, since you can't go to regionals/locals or something iirc, then maybe just try joining some online community for some battles? Like NuggetBridge, Smogon, GameFAQs, etc.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 02, 2015, 10:23:47 PM
Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on July 02, 2015, 08:53:29 PMSo recently I picked up a Dragonite code during my trip to the nearby city, and today I was about to redeem it before suddenly remembering why I can't stand ORAS due to many reasons, but I won't go into them here since it always seems I'm the only one with that opinion regarding ORAS.

I'm honestly not sure if I want to redeem the code or not, since I probably won't do anything with it anyway since there's nothing to do after the Delta Episode. I went to regionals a while ago and lost horribly, and I'm still furious about how there won't be any more Video Game events that I can attend for at least a year.

It seems that my time at regionals was the best time I had playing ORAS period, which I'm not sure is a good thing since I spent about 80 hours getting bored before then. In RS I'd always go to the Game Corner, Battle Tower or the contests, but the Game Corner and the Battle Tower are gone and the contests are incredibly easy, so I'm just really, really bored. This ia coming from a long time fan that completed the National Dex in X, so if I'm unable to be entertained by a main series game I don't know what to do. I really, really want to sell it but the exclusive mega evolutions and the fact that it's the only game allowed in Play Pokemon for this year and next year make me unable to.

...So I guess what I'm saying is, what should I do in ORAS to keep me entertained, give me a good challenge and keep me occupied for the summer? Everything I had fun with in Emerald and RS was either removed for no reason or made incredibly easy. Please tell me you can rematch trainers at level 80 or something like that in a place besides the Elite Four (And I'm not even sure if they are level 80.), as I'm unsure what to do until the next tournament rolls around...

I've put more hours on Omega Ruby than anything since Black, I'm at about 150 hours or so. Completing the DexNav is really fun, because post game adds a ton of newer Pokémon. You could try your hand at EV training too, though be warned that its very addictive.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: AwesomeYears on July 03, 2015, 12:22:54 AM

Perfect.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Altissimo on July 03, 2015, 04:32:25 AM
I'm on a Quest to complete the Omega Ruby Pokédex using only Pokémon obtained in my copies of Omega Ruby, Alpha Sapphire, and X. So no Pokébank transfers and no getting starters or legends through GTS or anything (with the exception of Yveltal and other Y-exclusives).

I shouldn't really call it a Quest though because it's almost done. It's a living Pokédex, and I'm only missing the following Pokémon:
Fennekin/Braixen/Delphox
Squirtle/Wartortle/Blastoise
Zapdos
Mew
Jirachi
Shaymin
Darkrai
Phione/Manaphy
Arceus
Keldeo
Victini
Genesect
Meloetta
Hoopa
Volcanion

... except I'm currently replaying X to get the Squirtle and Fennekin lines and Zapdos, and I have all the event legends except for Hoopa and Volcanion somewhere in my games (I completed the 'dex back in Platinum and managed to actually obtain all the event legends through legitimate events that occurred in the gen 4 days) so I'm almost done with the non-event-legend part, and I'll be able to transfer the events if I want, but I'm hoping for more gen 6 events because I want all the Pokémon I get to be from gen 6 originally.

Platinum and OR are the only Pokédexes I've (almost) completed in main series games, but I also have all the Pokémon in Mystery Dungeon Blue and the three Ranger games. I used to have all the mons in Sky but I've since deleted that file.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: TheDreamingHawk on July 03, 2015, 01:01:49 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on July 02, 2015, 10:23:47 PMI've put more hours on Omega Ruby than anything since Black, I'm at about 150 hours or so. Completing the DexNav is really fun, because post game adds a ton of newer Pokémon. You could try your hand at EV training too, though be warned that its very addictive.

Dex Nav was only useful in getting me the Lucky Egg for Regionals grinding. I did try EV training a Salamence but it took ages, I got incredibly bored and while it IS a super powerful Pokemon I also have a Clefable that I didn't EV Train that is just as good due to Follow Me. I also trained a Noivern without EVs and it's super strong due to that Special Attack choice item you get. I'm honestly not sure if there are any CPUs I can face besides the E4 though that provides a legitimate challenge. (Battle Test/Resort are not legitimate to me, due to the crazy luck that the randomly generated CPUs get that lead to cheap losses. Critical hit Rock Blast on all hits is one example... Plus you can't get experience there anyway.)
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 03, 2015, 01:15:09 PM
Well you're probably SOL then!! I love all of those things that you don't. You could try Pokémon Contests, I haven't done that yet.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Pianist Da Sootopolis on July 03, 2015, 01:53:52 PM
Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on July 03, 2015, 01:01:49 PMDex Nav was only useful in getting me the Lucky Egg for Regionals grinding. I did try EV training a Salamence but it took ages, I got incredibly bored and while it IS a super powerful Pokemon I also have a Clefable that I didn't EV Train that is just as good due to Follow Me. I also trained a Noivern without EVs and it's super strong due to that Special Attack choice item you get. I'm honestly not sure if there are any CPUs I can face besides the E4 though that provides a legitimate challenge. (Battle Test/Resort are not legitimate to me, due to the crazy luck that the randomly generated CPUs get that lead to cheap losses. Critical hit Rock Blast on all hits is one example... Plus you can't get experience there anyway.)
EV training is practically mandatory to win any serious pokemon competition nowadays. Plus, X and Y and ORAS made it ridiculously easy with horde battles and super training.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on July 04, 2015, 10:28:05 AM
Quote from: Pianist Da Sootopolis on July 03, 2015, 01:53:52 PMEV training is practically mandatory to win any serious pokemon competition nowadays. Plus, X and Y and ORAS made it ridiculously easy with horde battles and super training.
what makes it incredibly easy is the macho items


Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on July 03, 2015, 01:01:49 PMDex Nav was only useful in getting me the Lucky Egg for Regionals grinding. I did try EV training a Salamence but it took ages, I got incredibly bored and while it IS a super powerful Pokemon I also have a Clefable that I didn't EV Train that is just as good due to Follow Me. I also trained a Noivern without EVs and it's super strong due to that Special Attack choice item you get. I'm honestly not sure if there are any CPUs I can face besides the E4 though that provides a legitimate challenge. (Battle Test/Resort are not legitimate to me, due to the crazy luck that the randomly generated CPUs get that lead to cheap losses. Critical hit Rock Blast on all hits is one example... Plus you can't get experience there anyway.)
if you want to avoid "AI hax" just lead with substitute.  Blocks all the haxy moves then you can sweep.  I use Raikou for that.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on July 04, 2015, 11:57:31 AM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on July 03, 2015, 01:15:09 PMWell you're probably SOL then!! I love all of those things that you don't. You could try Pokémon Contests, I haven't done that yet.
contests are a lot easier than they used to be imo, but they're still hella fun and you get a mega stone for doing them all iirc
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Altissimo on July 04, 2015, 12:41:41 PM
Quote from: K-NiGhT on July 04, 2015, 11:57:31 AMcontests are a lot easier than they used to be imo, but they're still hella fun and you get a mega stone for doing them all iirc

Lucarionite, I believe. And yes, they are hella easier, not least because you don't need "good" Pokéblocks in order for your Pokémon to get high contest stats. But the expanded repertory of moves means there's a lot to do!
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on July 04, 2015, 05:23:55 PM
Quote from: K-NiGhT on July 04, 2015, 11:57:31 AMcontests are a lot easier than they used to be imo
Can confirm. Did all them with the same Pokemon.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on July 04, 2015, 05:27:40 PM
I had no idea they made contests easier. Geez.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: TheDreamingHawk on July 04, 2015, 05:39:05 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on July 04, 2015, 05:27:40 PMI had no idea they made contests easier. Geez.

They did, which is what I mentioned earlier, since I entered contests very frequently in RSE. Very upset with Game Freak on how they pretty much made everything horribly easy and removed the battle frontier. You don't even have the Pokeblock cap anymore meaning you can max out the contest stats in all five categories easily, and Master Rank contests can't be lost once you do that.

Heck, even the Pokeblock minigame is gone, which means you select berries and you get a Pokeblock instead of having to work hard for a good one. I remember feeling accomplished when I got a Master Rank Cute ribbon back in the day, but now I feel like Game Freak treats the hardcore players like they don't want a challenge anymore, and thinks a cheap AI leftover from X and Y will replace what Hoenn was pretty much known for. Downright insulting especially with that Battle Tower model in the Battle Resort. I really, really hope the year off means that Game Freak will actually make a good Gen VI game for once when the final two games come out. They redeemed Gen V with B2/W2, so I hope they can do so with the next two games.

...Though if it's another Kanto remake I give up on the main series. I'm dead serious, I need to be blown away again like I was with Gen IV and BW2. PMD still can do it, so Game Freak should be able to as well.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on July 04, 2015, 05:41:14 PM
I was really upset to find out the Pokeblock minigame was gone... I really enjoyed it. I really agree with you in all your points though, it's not the same at all and I miss the Battle Frontier a lot, and the challenges it offered... having the Battle Frontier teased in the Resort was just salt in the wound.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on July 04, 2015, 07:22:45 PM
whenever I played that minigame I inevitably went cross eyed
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Pianist Da Sootopolis on July 05, 2015, 08:08:02 PM
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on July 04, 2015, 07:22:45 PMwhenever I played that minigame I inevitably went cross eyed
Isn't that part of the beauty of it?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: mikey on July 05, 2015, 08:30:57 PM
Actually yes, yes it is
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on July 06, 2015, 03:56:03 PM
I just enjoy the simpler contests for some reason. The old ones were so frustrating because the AI always knew how to screw you over. Also, Spectacular Talents are always fun.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Pianist Da Sootopolis on July 07, 2015, 11:58:45 AM
Quote from: K-NiGhT on July 06, 2015, 03:56:03 PMI just enjoy the simpler contests for some reason. The old ones were so frustrating because the AI always knew how to screw you over. Also, Spectacular Talents are always fun.
The ones in D/P/P always annoyed me for some reason. R/S/E's contests were way better IMO
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Nebbles on July 07, 2015, 02:11:19 PM
D/P/P's were nice, but I like R/S/E ones way more.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on July 11, 2015, 07:27:15 PM
So, I'm trying to get every single Mega Evolution in Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire right now. I'm close to having all the stones, but there's a couple Pokémon that I still haven't managed to acquire. These Pokémon are:

  • One Mewtwo (already have one for the X stone)
  • Tyranitar
  • Diancie (rip lmao)
If anyone is able to help me out at all with this let me know! I'm so close ;_;
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 11, 2015, 07:37:58 PM
I'm 99% sure I have a Garchomp you can have. In return though, would you mind trading me either Kyogre or Jirachi if you have them, purely for Pokédex reasons? Annoyingly, those are the only two of the Hoenn Dex I'm missing in my Omega Ruby and I'd really like to complete it.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on July 11, 2015, 07:42:19 PM
I'm actually looking for a Jirachi myself, but I have a Kyogre I can loan you for the dex lol. Apparently, there's an event going on in Japan where they're giving away Jirachis for the Tanabata festival ;_; why can't we have Jirachi too?
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Waddle Bro on July 11, 2015, 07:53:45 PM
You could always try GTS or import from past gens
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Hero of Trains on July 11, 2015, 08:23:15 PM
I can give you an Abomasnow.
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: K-NiGhT on July 11, 2015, 11:40:44 PM
Managed to get just about all of the ones I need tonight. only hard part is triggering a mareep horde battle >.<
Title: Re: General Pokémon
Post by: Latios212 on July 12, 2015, 08:28:26 AM
    Quote from: K-NiGhT on July 11, 2015, 07:27:15 PM
    • Diancie (rip lmao)

    I thought I had an extra GameStop Diancie code lying around somewhere... but I can't find it and idk if you'd still be able to redeem it...
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on July 12, 2015, 06:45:36 PM
    K-NiGhT, will you be online on ORAS tonight to trade?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: K-NiGhT on July 13, 2015, 05:32:09 PM
    Sorry I didn't see your post Slow! I'll be ready to trade in a bit but I've got a Garchomp already. I can still trade you the Kyogre briefly for the Dec tho.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on July 13, 2015, 05:37:16 PM
    Oh, I guess I need to say that I finally have Y version and am on my way to the 8th gym. I'm planning to build a team to rek some scrubs eventually. Just have a ways to go first.

    I'd love to do online things with anyone who wants to.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: K-NiGhT on July 16, 2015, 01:48:47 PM
    So most of us have played just about every Pokemon game. So I just had a thought.

    Out of each main series title, which one is your strongest incarnation? I'm playing through all the games again to gather more data.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on July 16, 2015, 01:49:41 PM
    What exactly do you mean by strongest incarnation?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Echo on July 16, 2015, 02:20:46 PM
    Quote from: K-NiGhT on July 16, 2015, 01:48:47 PMSo most of us have played just about every Pokemon game. So I just had a thought.

    Out of each main series title, which one is your strongest incarnation? I'm playing through all the games again to gather more data.

    It's always the character from the latest game because they have access to more Pokemon.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on July 16, 2015, 03:04:03 PM
    Definitely Omega Ruby. I got into it more than I did Black even, as in sure I've stated way too many times (sorry). It's so good.

    SoulSilver and Black are probably the next runner-ups, but really I have at least one super strong game for every gen.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: K-NiGhT on July 16, 2015, 03:09:15 PM
    Quote from: Nebbles on July 16, 2015, 01:49:41 PMWhat exactly do you mean by strongest incarnation?
    out of all the games, which hall of fame team would win in a Round Robin?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on July 16, 2015, 03:13:27 PM
    Well, I've got two teams that made level 100 (Platinum and OR), so it's harder to say specifically which would win there. That being said, Platinum was Empoleon, Light Ball Pikachu, Scyther, Noctowl, Houndoom, and Leafeon, while OR was Blaziken, Gardevoir, Manectric, Swellow, Breloom, and Exploud, so I think the latter team has the upper hand. :p
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on July 16, 2015, 05:10:00 PM
    Diamond or platinum.  Grinded so hard in those
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on July 16, 2015, 05:38:55 PM
    My first team for Pokemon White was pretty legit.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Pianist Da Sootopolis on July 16, 2015, 05:41:20 PM
    Probably a tie between my AS team and my emerald team.
    God, those Pokemon have been in that dusty old cartridge for almost half a decade now.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: K-NiGhT on July 17, 2015, 07:23:04 AM
    I honestly have no idea which one would be my best D: I have to play through the games again to see.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: TheDreamingHawk on July 18, 2015, 11:55:36 AM
    Definitely my X team. Taught my team some strong moves before entering the E4 for the first time and afterwards I just kept defeating them.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: K-NiGhT on July 19, 2015, 09:52:19 AM
    So I just found out that my girlfriend's starter Torchic in ORAS has its hidden ability and she had no idea. .__.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Waddle Bro on July 19, 2015, 10:48:57 AM
    But starter mons can't have their hidden abilities?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on July 19, 2015, 11:28:25 AM
    Yeah, it's impossible to get a starter with a hidden ability unless it's an event Pokémon.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Waddle Bro on July 19, 2015, 03:24:19 PM
    ^Yea although technically you were able to get them through Dream World back in 5th gen, but it's impossible to get a Speed Boost Torchic as a starter in ORAS.

    Here are all the ways to get hidden ability mons:
    psa
    QuoteWhere possible, all Pokémon obtained from the Pokémon Global Link, either via the Pokémon Dream World or a Global Link promotion, will always have their Hidden Ability.
    Certain event Pokémon may have their Hidden Ability.
    Pokémon obtained from the Pokémon Dream Radar will have their respective Hidden Abilities.
    Two instances of Pokémon found in-game in Black and White (the five Darmanitan in the Desert Resort and the Musharna found every Friday in the Dreamyard) have their Hidden Ability.
    Pokémon found in Pokémon Black and White 2's Hidden Grottos will always have their Hidden Ability, as do certain other interactable Pokémon in the game.
    Horde Encounters may have a Pokémon with a Hidden Ability.
    Pokémon found in a Friend Safari have a small chance of having a Hidden Ability. That chance increases if the registered friend associated with the Safari is online.
    Pokémon found with the DexNav in Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire have a small chance of having its Hidden Ability. The chance increases as more of the same species are encountered.
    [close]
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: K-NiGhT on July 19, 2015, 09:45:37 PM
    Quote from: Waddle Bro on July 19, 2015, 10:48:57 AMBut starter mons can't have their hidden abilities?
    I assure you this is absolutely a Blaziken with Speed Boost that isn't Mega Evolved. Also, she's not one for breeding, nor does she have any Ditto to do that with.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on July 19, 2015, 10:19:16 PM
    There was a special event Torchic you got with Speed Boost.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Waddle Bro on July 20, 2015, 05:44:22 AM
    ^that or wondertrade or bullshit
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on July 20, 2015, 12:22:42 PM
    I'm crying look what happens when you enter Dugtrio in a Pokémon Musical in the Black and White generations

    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: JDMEK5 on July 20, 2015, 04:00:18 PM
    Quote from: Nebbles on July 19, 2015, 10:19:16 PMThere was a special event Torchic you got with Speed Boost.
    With Blazikenite in a cherish ball I believe. I still have one sitting in my game somewhere cuz I soft-restarted to get a whole bunch XD
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: K-NiGhT on July 20, 2015, 05:45:10 PM
    It's met on Route 101 at level 5 and she's the OT. I'll provide pictures next time she's over to prove it.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Waddle Bro on July 22, 2015, 02:32:16 AM
    hoopa is shit :/
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: K-NiGhT on July 22, 2015, 01:35:48 PM
    how did you get it?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Waddle Bro on July 22, 2015, 01:40:02 PM
    Showdown

    edit: also it's out in Japan, so that's why it's legal to use it
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on July 22, 2015, 01:41:23 PM
    Unrelated, but:

    Quote from: SerebiiFor those of you in North America and Europe, it has been announced that, for a short period between July 24th 2015 and July 27th 2015, you'll be able to receive the Mythical Pokémon Diancie to your Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire games through the internet via the Nintendo Network. This Diancie comes with the moves Diamond Storm, Moonblast, Dazzling Gleam and Protect
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on July 23, 2015, 07:59:40 AM
    why do we get Diancie again like seriously we need Hoopa and a bunch of other events over here!
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: K-NiGhT on July 23, 2015, 08:48:54 AM
    Quote from: Altissimo on July 23, 2015, 07:59:40 AMwhy do we get Diancie again like seriously we need Hoopa and a bunch of other events over here!
    but I never got Diancie before so this is perfect! Now I have a chance at getting every Mega Stone.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on July 23, 2015, 09:16:03 AM
    We'll get everything eventually, Game Freak isn't obligated to release everything at the same time. I didn't get Diancie the first time, but even if I did, I'd love the chance for two! I'm just happy because I couldn't get to a GameStop the first time.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Hero of Trains on July 23, 2015, 02:04:16 PM
    Hey guys! Maya was asking me what her first Pokemon game should be. We narrowed it down to either Soulsilver or PMD Explorers. I couldn't decide. Any thoughts?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Maelstrom on July 23, 2015, 02:12:27 PM
    Probably the main line game. (Soulsilver)
    It's just because pmd is so strongly based off the main series it might be wise to play one of those first.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on July 23, 2015, 02:32:30 PM
    Of the two, I'd recommend SoulSilver, but I think the Johto games rely too thoroughly on nostalgia from Kanto to be effective without one of those. If she has a DS as SoulSilver would indicate, I'd recommend Platinum.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Bespinben on July 23, 2015, 02:36:42 PM
    I've heard of many cases where people's first Pokémon game was PMD Explorers (source: lots of Youtube comments). I'd say make the choice based on what Maya values in a video game -- gameplay (Soulsilver) or story (PMD Explorers).
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Hero of Trains on July 23, 2015, 02:37:28 PM
    Yeah, Platinum is awesome! Why didn't I think of it?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on July 23, 2015, 02:41:28 PM
    Maybe you lost your...train of thought?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Jompa on July 23, 2015, 02:43:15 PM
    I'd definitely recommend Ruby/Sapphire or Emerald, but if only for DS, I'd say Diamond/Pearl.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Hero of Trains on July 23, 2015, 02:44:20 PM
    Out. Now.

    No, just kidding. :) That was actually an okay pun.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mayastarr041 on July 23, 2015, 02:46:18 PM
    I just want a Pokemon game that I could play forever and never get bored! Pokemon seems interesting, saw shows, but never actually played a game. I'm leaning more towards the gameplay side, the length, than the story. And thanks Trains!
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mayastarr041 on July 23, 2015, 02:48:38 PM
    :)
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: AwesomeYears on July 23, 2015, 02:53:51 PM
    Pokemon Dash

    Platinium was probably my most played Pokemon game + the battle tower thingy was the shit!
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on July 23, 2015, 03:38:17 PM
    The newer, the better imo. Black and White are excellent to start with, as are any of the 3DS games. It's up to you but my recommendation is Pokémon X or Y.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: JDMEK5 on July 23, 2015, 03:55:33 PM
    Quote from: mayastarr041 on July 23, 2015, 02:46:18 PMI just want a Pokemon game that I could play forever and never get bored! Pokemon seems interesting, saw shows, but never actually played a game. I'm leaning more towards the gameplay side, the length, than the story.
    Well if you're looking for gameplay above story then maybe OR/AS is the choice for you. I agree with Slow, the newer the better, but OR/AS are new enough that you'll still be able to grab some events before the next gen. (If you have questions about events, just ask) On top of that, personally I found the story in OR/AS kinda lacking a bit but the gameplay was unmatched imo. So I'm going to recommend either Omega Ruby or Alpha Sapphire.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on July 23, 2015, 04:10:41 PM
    I agree that ORAS are my favorite in the series and those are awesome too. I recommended X and Y because they seemed like they were designed for new players who were unfamiliar with Pokémon.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on July 23, 2015, 04:13:20 PM
    Black/White and/or ORAS are probably the best to start.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Jompa on July 23, 2015, 05:01:37 PM
    Actually, I change my mind: all games are great ofc (and great to start with too), but Black/White are probably the best to start with imo
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: K-NiGhT on July 23, 2015, 05:38:31 PM
    MODEST NATURE DIANCIE GOD BLESS
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on July 23, 2015, 06:05:08 PM
    IS DIANCIE ALREADY AVAILABLE OMG
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Latios212 on July 23, 2015, 06:12:43 PM
    Indeed. ^-^
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: JDMEK5 on July 23, 2015, 06:22:40 PM
    Quote from: SlowPokemon on July 23, 2015, 04:10:41 PMI agree that ORAS are my favorite in the series and those are awesome too. I recommended X and Y because they seemed like they were designed for new players who were unfamiliar with Pokémon.
    Tru dat but tbh I think we can fill in any gaps in pokemon understanding that may be lacking if you catch my drift.

    Quote from: SlowPokemon on July 23, 2015, 06:05:08 PMIS DIANCIE ALREADY AVAILABLE OMG
    Dude where u live I already has
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on July 23, 2015, 10:47:11 PM
    one with good postgame like platinum
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Hero of Trains on July 23, 2015, 10:53:53 PM
    She decided on Platinum.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on July 24, 2015, 12:38:38 AM
    Did Nocturne have any influence on this decision? :P
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Hero of Trains on July 24, 2015, 09:06:29 AM
    No,  actually. She had already decided earlier.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: DreamTheater123 on July 24, 2015, 05:35:21 PM
    Oh my God, Pokemon is my life. Good to know there is a separate Pokemon section. I literally own all the Pokemon games.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Hero of Trains on July 24, 2015, 05:41:41 PM
    Many of us here do, including me. ;D
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Waddle Bro on July 24, 2015, 06:31:18 PM
    Quote from: K-NiGhT on July 23, 2015, 05:38:31 PMMODEST NATURE DIANCIE GOD BLESS
    sorry to break it to you bro but modest on diancie isn't good on it, it just weakens your Diamond Storm, besides Timid>Modest even if you wouldn't run Diamond Storm because it allows you to outspeed a ton of stuff(or speedtie w/ latis).
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on July 25, 2015, 06:55:59 AM
    Huh I got a Timid one
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: K-NiGhT on July 25, 2015, 08:17:09 AM
    Quote from: Waddle Bro on July 24, 2015, 06:31:18 PMsorry to break it to you bro but modest on diancie isn't good on it, it just weakens your Diamond Storm, besides Timid>Modest even if you wouldn't run Diamond Storm because it allows you to outspeed a ton of stuff(or speedtie w/ latis).
    oh someone told me modest was good and that Diamond Storm was a special move ;_; rip in spaghetti never forgetti
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mayastarr041 on July 25, 2015, 10:12:01 PM
    A quick Pokemon question for Platinum: I just got the Coal Badge...a while back and I'm wondering what do all the badges do? Is there a specific thing that happens when I get them all? And how do I get the legendary Pokemon on the front of the cover?
    Remember that this is my first Pokemon game and yes, I know I could search it online, but I want to hear it from you guys, for no particular reason.  :-\
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: AwesomeYears on July 25, 2015, 10:17:31 PM
    You need the eight badges to challenge the Elite Four, 4 of the best Pokemon trainers in the game and then steal the Champion's title! The Giratina will appear towards the end of the game ;)
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mayastarr041 on July 25, 2015, 10:24:00 PM
    Quote from: AwesomeYears on July 25, 2015, 10:17:31 PMYou need the eight badges to challenge the Elite Four, 4 of the best Pokemon trainers in the game and then steal the Champion's title! The Giratina will appear towards the end of the game ;)
    Oh wow! I can't wait to steal the title! Though at this rate, I don't think I can because I lost to Roark like 5 times before I beat him....
    I feel ashamed
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: K-NiGhT on July 25, 2015, 10:24:58 PM
    Quote from: mayastarr041 on July 25, 2015, 10:24:00 PMOh wow! I can't wait to steal the title! Though at this rate, I don't think I can because I lost to Roark like 5 times before I beat him....
    I feel ashamed
    which starter are you using?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mayastarr041 on July 25, 2015, 10:26:26 PM
    Chimchar. That chimp is soo adorable.  :) :)
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: AwesomeYears on July 25, 2015, 10:42:06 PM
    Ayy, I was a Chimchar starter as well!

    Quote from: mayastarr041 on July 25, 2015, 10:24:00 PMI lost to Roark like 5 times before I beat him....
    I feel ashamed
    Don't feel ashamed, the Fire starter is the only starter that is weak to Rock, the other two are super effective :P

    Here is a chart to show what Pokemon moves are strong/weak against a typed Pokemon http://www.gamelogs.org/image/feature/Gamelogs_Pokemon_Type_Chart.png
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mayastarr041 on July 25, 2015, 10:56:04 PM
    High Five! Yeah! ;D
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Maelstrom on August 03, 2015, 07:52:29 PM
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8BEq1DHXyA
    Catch-em-all glitched run starts at 9:35.
    Blindfolded race starts at 2:22:48
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on August 03, 2015, 08:16:17 PM
    I caught both of those live, they were fantastic.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: FierceDeity on August 03, 2015, 08:57:34 PM
    oh my god the people running this are so awkward it's adorable

    *crowd claps after beating rival*

    "...yeah"
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: FierceDeity on August 03, 2015, 09:12:15 PM
    double post but wait what the fuck does this guy only know information about pokemon in relation to speed running?

    "Oh wait I forgot to teach it Psychic. Oh well, teleport is psychic type move so we should be fine" wait what the shit do you expect teleport to do in a trainer battle

    Wait was he literally just trying to pretend like he cared about winning

    Nvm that's gold
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on August 04, 2015, 07:40:04 AM
    Quote from: FierceDeity on August 03, 2015, 09:12:15 PMdouble post but wait what the fuck does this guy only know information about pokemon in relation to speed running?

    "Oh wait I forgot to teach it Psychic. Oh well, teleport is psychic type move so we should be fine" wait what the shit do you expect teleport to do in a trainer battle

    Wait was he literally just trying to pretend like he cared about winning

    Nvm that's gold

    Explain this?? I'm not following but like what happened
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: FierceDeity on August 04, 2015, 06:20:44 PM
    The runner pretended to be an idiot for a moment, and had done a glitch to get some Psychic TMs under the pretense of teaching it to his abra before a gym battle, and then started the battle like "Oh wait no I forgot to teach it! Oh well, teleport is still psychic type so it's fine" and then pretended to be shocked when it didn't work

    but then he went back to the pokemon center having accomplished what he intended in setting up a glitch
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on August 11, 2015, 04:05:52 PM
    why does a level 15 spinda outspeed a level 26 slugma
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Jub3r7 on August 11, 2015, 04:53:36 PM
    maybe because slugma is a slug!
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on August 11, 2015, 06:41:40 PM
    Because Spinda is the best Pokémon in existence probably?? idk just a thought
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on August 12, 2015, 11:52:15 AM
    http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-258520247 (http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-258520247)

    http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-258524064 (http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-258524064)

    I think I'm starting to get the hang of this.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on August 12, 2015, 12:25:21 PM
    From now until September 14, a Shiny Rayquaza with Dragon Ascent is available via Wi-fi distribution for Pokémon Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Pianist Da Sootopolis on August 12, 2015, 03:32:37 PM
    Quote from: Dudeman on August 12, 2015, 11:52:15 AMhttp://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-258520247 (http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-258520247)

    http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-258524064 (http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-258524064)

    I think I'm starting to get the hang of this.
    You and I should play sometime!
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on August 14, 2015, 08:28:59 AM
    So right now my team is raikou, gyarados, and blastoise, but it feels like gyarados doesn't fit very well, even though he's a very good gyarados
    Does anyone know a good sweeper that would fit better?  This is fourth Gen btw
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on August 14, 2015, 12:29:51 PM
    Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on August 14, 2015, 08:28:59 AMSo right now my team is raikou, gyarados, and blastoise, but it feels like gyarados doesn't fit very well, even though he's a very good gyarados
    Does anyone know a good sweeper that would fit better?  This is fourth Gen btw

    What is this for?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on August 14, 2015, 04:00:42 PM
    Battle frontier
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Hero of Trains on August 14, 2015, 04:04:07 PM
    If anyone international wants one of the Rayquazas, I have a limited number available for you guys. PM me if you want one (one per person).
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on August 15, 2015, 05:56:03 PM
    Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on August 14, 2015, 04:00:42 PMBattle frontier

    Tower, I take it? Or Frontier as a whole? Each of the facilities where you can use three Pokémon (of which there are only three) have a bit of a different playstyle. What kind of movesets, EVs/IVs, natures, etc are you running? What strategies are you using?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on August 15, 2015, 09:21:11 PM
    My raikou is rash, holding leftovers, with spa and spe ev's, with some health ev's Substitute, thunder wave, aura sphere, thunderbolt He pretty much sweeps everything to be honest

    Gyarados is adamant holding life orb, with speed and attack ivs Dragon dance, stone edge, eq, aqua tail

    Blastoise is lonely holding chesto berry, with some defensive evs and some attack evs Waterfall, skull bash, toxic, rest. I'm planning on replacing skull bash with a better coverage move but I'm not sure which it would be

    I have a weakness to sandstorm type teams and people who spam b ne rush
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on August 16, 2015, 08:13:39 AM
    It's been a while since I did Battle Frontier teambuilding, but I say check out this thread (http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/platinum-hg-ss-battle-frontier-and-dp-battle-tower-records.52858/) and some of the top teams. You'll probably find some helpful stuff there.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Bespinben on August 18, 2015, 08:35:00 PM
    Where's Waldo Pikachu?

    (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fyouoffendmeyouoffendmyfamily.com%2Fwordpress%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F06%2Fpikachu2.png&hash=e38a6ec5726b6fb343e5a06445ec3a868ef2b1ee)
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Hero of Trains on August 18, 2015, 08:36:55 PM
    Spoiler
    Bottom left corner next to Croagunk and Meowth.
    [close]
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on August 18, 2015, 09:52:21 PM
    That seems like it would make a nice (although confusing) phone background... though, I wouldn't know, as I am unable to try it out for myself. :P
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on August 21, 2015, 06:16:38 AM
    Pokken Tournament is officially getting a worldwide release for Wii U this spring!
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on August 21, 2015, 12:05:34 PM
    Nice!
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Maelstrom on August 23, 2015, 04:14:19 PM
    http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2015/08/potential_massacre_averted_at_pokemon_world_championships
    O.o
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mayastarr041 on August 25, 2015, 03:21:45 PM
    Been listening to Lavender town for around 1 hour. I think I'm going to go insane!!
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Latios212 on August 25, 2015, 07:54:39 PM
    Listen to the Gold/Silver or HeartGold/SoulSilver version for a change ;3
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: K-NiGhT on September 09, 2015, 11:22:02 PM

    HOLY SHIT
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on September 09, 2015, 11:39:28 PM
    pokecaching?

    seems legit
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Bespinben on September 10, 2015, 12:17:20 AM
    I know I shouldn't let marketing sway me, but gosh dangit, that got me all sorts of feelz.

    dat Junichi Masuda cameo @ 1:31 tho
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Jompa on September 10, 2015, 12:20:10 AM
    Quote from: Bespinben on September 10, 2015, 12:17:20 AMdat Junichi Masuda cameo @ 1:31 tho
    Hahaha fantastic!
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: K-NiGhT on September 10, 2015, 01:02:41 AM
    Quote from: Bespinben on September 10, 2015, 12:17:20 AMI know I shouldn't let marketing sway me, but gosh dangit, that got me all sorts of feelz.

    dat Junichi Masuda cameo @ 1:31 tho
    Yeah, I know it's just going to be a mobile game but it's such a fantastic concept that they should've been doing years ago and I can't wait for it.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Brawler4Ever on September 11, 2015, 10:07:59 AM
    I can't stop calling it Pokemon: Global Offensive.  :P

    Awesome concept though! I'm hoping that it turns out well.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Clanker37 on September 11, 2015, 08:29:35 PM
    Yea, but catching a Charizard with a great ball? Good luck you knobhead.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: K-NiGhT on September 11, 2015, 10:30:04 PM
    POKEMON Z CONFIRMED?!  (http://serebii.net/news/2015/12-September-2015.shtml)
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on September 11, 2015, 10:47:50 PM
    I'd prefer delta emerald with the same souped up storyline, just a little bit more artwork as ORAS
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on September 11, 2015, 10:52:38 PM
    @K-NiGhT - basically! I'm excited, this wasn't exactly unexpected but I'm always ready for a new Pokémon. I'm estimating an early-mid 2016 release?

    @NocturneOfShadow - the Delta Episode at the end of Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire was Game Freak's way of acknowledging the storyline from Emerald and allowing it to be integrated into the plot, so there's not really much that would be gained from a Delta Emerald game. I'm way more interested to see how they update the Kalos region.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on September 11, 2015, 10:55:45 PM
    Quote from: SlowPokemon on September 11, 2015, 10:52:38 PMI'm way more interested to see how they update the Kalos region.
    of course you are
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on September 11, 2015, 11:07:31 PM
    dog-zygarde hype
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on September 12, 2015, 06:27:40 AM
    I... feel indifferent? I need to see what they do with these new formes first. Will it improve X/Y's "story"? Will Kalos actually be somewhat interesting and have more to it? Let's hope so, I'd like to see impressed by Gen 6 for once.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on September 14, 2015, 11:56:51 PM
    We'll take a generic Water-type, give it crummy stats EVERYWHERE except for Speed, give him a trait that doubles his Speed in the rain and the option to use Agility and call it a day. Luvdisc is great if you're playing with Battle Timeout, because its mere presence should cause your opponent to laugh at it for so long that you win the match.
    Such a load of potential here. First off, use Rain Dance to double the only stat that Luvdisc doesn't need a boost in. 95 Base Power with the boost from STAB and Rain Dance sounds very powerful, and it would be on any other Pokemon. Ice Beam is for all these Grass-types that have way too much Special Defense to hurt anyway, but I suppose I just like the words "It's super effective" on your screen. Toxic shows off Luvdisc's amazing stalling power with 43 HP, 55 Defense and 65 Special Defense, but Hidden Power Electric is there if you're afraid of Pelipper or (God forbid) a hostile Luvdisc!
    Watch Luvdisc stall out his opponents with his amazing total of defenses not even topping 170. Confusion and attraction together equals a 75% chance your opponent has to wait one more turn before Luvdisc is turned into a pile of heart juice, Protect is another turn, which means that Toxic might inflict a little damage in the meantime. If you're lucky. Aqua Ring can be used on this set. Just kidding, of course.
    Get to 1 HP somehow and start Flailing. Your third move is here to add more Speed should you run into one of the three or so Pokemon Luvdisc should ever face that actually outspeed him. Safeguard prevents you from being statused (because such a tank as Luvdisc is obviously going to get Toxiced and all...), or you could use the Water moves and hope to make a use out of Rain Dance and actually hurt Rock-types like Sudowoodo. If by hurt you mean tickle.
    Charm turns Luvdisc into a very sturdy physical wall that can survive two Caterpie Tackles and force it to switch out.


    Instead of listing Luvdisc's counters, I'll list here what doesn't counter Luvdisc:
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on September 15, 2015, 05:31:39 AM
    ah yes the fantastic smogon write-ups on some mons. gotta love 'em
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on September 15, 2015, 01:19:03 PM
    I've never seen one better than that
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on September 29, 2015, 10:18:37 PM
    wow I forgot how great platinum's story is
    I reset my game and I'm playing through without saving just to experience the storyline again and so many of these characters are great
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: TheDreamingHawk on November 08, 2015, 09:22:11 AM
    Well in recent news Hoopa is heading to Mcdonalds of all places as a Wi-Fi event you can obtain from using the McDonalds Nintendo Zone at the end of this month, around the same time that the Pokemon ORAS Happy meals replace The Peanuts Movie. Thoughts? McDonalds is OK for me since one is very close to my home, but it makes me worry a little about looking silly standing in the corner of one in order to download Hoopa. Still better than last year's serial code event, though...
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: K-NiGhT on November 11, 2015, 11:45:30 AM
    The opening of the new anime season (http://streamable.com/33by) is pretty awesome.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on November 11, 2015, 05:54:03 PM
    Quote from: K-NiGhT on November 11, 2015, 11:45:30 AMThe opening of the new anime season (http://streamable.com/33by) is pretty awesome.
    That Zygarde...
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Olimar12345 on December 02, 2015, 01:17:27 PM
    So apparently they're not pants

    http://www.destructoid.com/machoke-and-machamp-don-t-have-pants-on-actually-323541.phtml
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on December 02, 2015, 02:28:11 PM
    I GUESS I CAN DIE HAPPY NOW
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Latios212 on January 12, 2016, 07:48:35 AM
    http://www.pokemon20.com/en-us/index.html

    THIS LOOKS PRETTY COOL
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BrainyLucario on January 12, 2016, 08:01:00 AM
    I haven't seen the new series yet... Is it any good?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on January 12, 2016, 08:23:43 AM
    do u mean the anime?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on January 12, 2016, 08:56:12 AM
    Special New Nintendo 3DS (the regular, not the XL) units have been announced that come pre-installed with Pokémon Red and Pokémon Blue and have face plates to match. They sound incredible.

    Also announced: a new mythical Pokémon distribution every month. I don't think that includes January, though.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BrainyLucario on January 12, 2016, 09:46:05 AM
    Quote from: Altissimo on January 12, 2016, 08:23:43 AMdo u mean the anime?
    Yes, i did
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on January 12, 2016, 11:49:51 AM
    Quote from: BrainyLucario on January 12, 2016, 09:46:05 AMYes, i did

    lol no one watches it
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on January 12, 2016, 03:07:29 PM
    Quote from: SlowPokemon on January 12, 2016, 08:56:12 AMSpecial New Nintendo 3DS (the regular, not the XL) units have been announced that come pre-installed with Pokémon Red and Pokémon Blue and have face plates to match. They sound incredible.

    Also announced: a new mythical Pokémon distribution every month. I don't think that includes January, though.

    Gamefreak is really giving out a lot of nice goodies for the 20th anniversary, goddamn.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BrainyLucario on January 12, 2016, 03:40:11 PM
    Quote from: Altissimo on January 12, 2016, 11:49:51 AMlol no one watches it
    I actually liked the first season TBH...
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on January 12, 2016, 04:34:18 PM
    Everyone did but no one watches anymore it seems
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BrainyLucario on January 12, 2016, 06:08:53 PM
    sadly...I'm surprised....It doesn't seem like it's gotten terrible
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on January 12, 2016, 06:12:27 PM
    Eh, after the voice actors all switched, I lost interest.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Yug_Guy on January 13, 2016, 10:06:02 PM
    GUYS. I JUST GOT THIS OVER WONDER TRADE. I'M NOT SURE HOW TO FEEL RIGHT NOW:
    http://imgur.com/lywflzw
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mastersuperfan on January 14, 2016, 04:55:51 AM
    Quote from: Yug_Guy on January 13, 2016, 10:06:02 PMGUYS. I JUST GOT THIS OVER WONDER TRADE. I'M NOT SURE HOW TO FEEL RIGHT NOW:
    http://imgur.com/lywflzw

    The guy probably cloned a ton of them and traded them all out. :P
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BrainyLucario on January 24, 2016, 11:52:35 PM
    I really want a shiny Lucario! Is there anyway I could get that really fast in Pokemon White Version?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mastersuperfan on January 25, 2016, 06:32:48 AM
    Quote from: BrainyLucario on January 24, 2016, 11:52:35 PMI really want a shiny Lucario! Is there anyway I could get that really fast in Pokemon White Version?

    You have two options.

    1) Hack (obviously fastest)

    2) Masuda Method (legitimate way)
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on January 25, 2016, 08:55:26 AM
    Or, if you know your stuff, RNG manipulation!
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on January 25, 2016, 09:14:45 AM
    Quote from: Nebbles on January 25, 2016, 08:55:26 AMOr, if you know your stuff, RNG manipulation!

    i managed to rng manip a certain nature/iv registeel that required 11 minutes after powering on the game on my 8th try in emerald once, that was one of the pinnacles of my gaming existence
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BrainyLucario on January 25, 2016, 03:53:56 PM
    Quote from: Nebbles on January 25, 2016, 08:55:26 AMOr, if you know your stuff, RNG manipulation!
    what's that? and shiny Lucario is gold, right?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on January 25, 2016, 03:55:25 PM
    Quote from: BrainyLucario on January 25, 2016, 03:53:56 PMwhat's that?

    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=pokemon+rng+manipulation

    Quote from: braixen1264 on January 25, 2016, 02:41:10 PMA lot of kids on NSM tend to do this thing where they ask what things are without first googling it. ???
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on January 25, 2016, 04:00:13 PM
    Red Nuzleaf Growth manipulation. It involves using a shiny Nuzleaf's stats after it uses Growth to determine which patches of nearby grass will contain a shiny. Normally the values are too high for any nearby patches to have any, but sometimes if you're lucky, one will be nearby.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on January 25, 2016, 04:13:21 PM
    Quote from: Dudeman on January 25, 2016, 04:00:13 PMRed Nuzleaf Growth manipulation. It involves using a shiny Nuzleaf's stats after it uses Growth to determine which patches of nearby grass will contain a shiny. Normally the values are too high for any nearby patches to have any, but sometimes if you're lucky, one will be nearby.

    the only problem is i dont have a shiny nuzleaf hrnnggggg i know all about this method and i totally want to try it but alas
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on January 25, 2016, 04:29:51 PM
    Really, the only problem is finding the grass in the first place. You have to divide the Nuzleaf's resulting attack stat by 6 (rounded up) and then go that many steps South before multiplying the Defense stat by 2 and moving that many steps East. Then, if your last party member is a Water-type but not over level 23, you have to use fly and go to the last town where you bought an X Attack. Otherwise, you have to use Dig and then talk to Nurse Joy at that Pokémon Center 7 times but refuse her offer each time. Then you have 150 seconds to run to the nearest trainer with a Normal-type and talk to them twice before fishing at a nearby pool. If it is a Magikarp, you have to Growl at it until its Attack can't go any lower and then capture it in a Nest Ball. Nickname it with an "x" in the fourth letter slot and walk into grass within the next 100 steps. Within five encounters, you should have a shiny. It's quite simple, really.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on January 25, 2016, 04:34:59 PM
    i know i know i just don't have the shiny nuzleaf yet :(
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: E. Gadd Industries on January 25, 2016, 04:40:25 PM
    Has anyone here heard about the Super Bowl Pokémon commercial?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: AwesomeYears on January 25, 2016, 04:54:54 PM
    I think I have, but I simply don't care for Superbowl for obvious reasons.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BrainyLucario on January 26, 2016, 05:31:32 AM
    Quote from: Dudeman on January 25, 2016, 04:29:51 PMReally, the only problem is finding the grass in the first place. You have to divide the Nuzleaf's resulting attack stat by 6 (rounded up) and then go that many steps South before multiplying the Defense stat by 2 and moving that many steps East. Then, if your last party member is a Water-type but not over level 23, you have to use fly and go to the last town where you bought an X Attack. Otherwise, you have to use Dig and then talk to Nurse Joy at that Pokémon Center 7 times but refuse her offer each time. Then you have 150 seconds to run to the nearest trainer with a Normal-type and talk to them twice before fishing at a nearby pool. If it is a Magikarp, you have to Growl at it until its Attack can't go any lower and then capture it in a Nest Ball. Nickname it with an "x" in the fourth letter slot and walk into grass within the next 100 steps. Within five encounters, you should have a shiny. It's quite simple, really.

    My Brain shut down in the middle of this.....
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on January 26, 2016, 06:00:17 AM
    That tends to happen, it's common for newcomers to not get it. You have to have studied Pokémon weirdness for a long time.

    My favorite is the RBY glitch where you can walk through walls by talking to the guy who takes you to Brock with a very specific Bulbasaur in your party
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Jub3r7 on January 26, 2016, 07:47:38 AM
    Quote from: Olimar12345 on December 02, 2015, 01:17:27 PMSo apparently they're not pants

    http://www.destructoid.com/machoke-and-machamp-don-t-have-pants-on-actually-323541.phtml
    late reply but, i've seen a lot of art that shows otherwise



     :-X
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: braix on January 26, 2016, 07:53:11 AM
    Quote from: BrainyLucario on January 26, 2016, 05:31:32 AMMy Brain shut down in the middle of this.....
    I thought you were supposed to be brainy smh
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BrainyLucario on January 26, 2016, 07:55:41 AM
    Quote from: braixen1264 on January 26, 2016, 07:53:11 AMI thought you were supposed to be brainy smh
    I have my off days like everyone else.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Yug_Guy on January 29, 2016, 05:24:36 PM
    I'm just going to leave this here...
    https://www.change.org/p/nintendo-nintendo-of-america-get-danny-devito-to-voice-the-english-version-of-detective-pikachu#petition-letter
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on January 29, 2016, 05:26:24 PM
    Quote from: Yug_Guy on January 29, 2016, 05:24:36 PMI'm just going to leave this here...
    https://www.change.org/p/nintendo-nintendo-of-america-get-danny-devito-to-voice-the-english-version-of-detective-pikachu#petition-letter
    I feel very conflicted about this.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on January 29, 2016, 05:55:30 PM
    I read that and it made me die laughing for about nine years it's the funniest thing I've seen in ages
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on January 29, 2016, 07:51:58 PM
    Please let this happen NoA
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BrainyLucario on February 01, 2016, 05:37:47 AM
    Does anyone know if the shiny encounter rate is higher when a pokemon outbreak is happening in Pokemon White Version?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Magic Mole on February 07, 2016, 05:42:55 PM
    Wow...I love the games and content that Nintendo has created, but sometimes the way they treat their fans really leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I'm sure his hunch is right and this whole thing is related to the 20th anniversary and the re-release of the original games :/
    Sorry if someone already posted about this
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: TheDreamingHawk on February 07, 2016, 07:46:19 PM
    Quote from: Magic Mole on February 07, 2016, 05:42:55 PM
    Wow...I love the games and content that Nintendo has created, but sometimes the way they treat their fans really leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I'm sure his hunch is right and this whole thing is related to the 20th anniversary and the re-release of the original games :/
    Sorry if someone already posted about this

    This really is sad. The fact that it was done by TPCI (and not NCL who just automates with removals and whatnot because they don't understand youtube as much as their western counterparts) is even worse since I'm sure they actually listened and heard the quality of his music. I don't think he asked for money, did he? If not, then they should at least work out a compromise.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: E. Gadd Industries on February 08, 2016, 08:21:11 AM
    :D I got a Mew from GameStop yesterday! Can't wait for the rest of the year to get the other mythical Pokemon! Also looking forward to go!
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on February 08, 2016, 10:07:12 AM
    ^if anyone happens to get an extra code, hook me up, would you? I don't have a car right now.

    Also the Pokémon dude was putting ads on his videos which means he did get payment from them. Doesn't really justify what TPCI did, but it's within their rights.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Waddle Bro on February 08, 2016, 10:16:30 AM
    ^if it's within their rights, it's completely justified, as the guy doesn't own the copyrighted content. It's just a bit frivolous. I'm guessing Nintendo didn't want people to confuse kanto symphony album with their own symphonic evolutions, but that's just my guess.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BrainyLucario on February 08, 2016, 11:14:44 AM
    Quote from: E. Gadd Industries on February 08, 2016, 08:21:11 AM:D I got a Mew from GameStop yesterday! Can't wait for the rest of the year to get the other mythical Pokemon! Also looking forward to go!
    And this is why I need Pokemon X or Y really badly.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Yug_Guy on February 08, 2016, 11:50:37 AM
    Quote from: SlowPokemon on February 08, 2016, 10:07:12 AMAlso the Pokémon dude was putting ads on his videos which means he did get payment from them. Doesn't really justify what TPCI did, but it's within their rights.
    He actually said in the video that he was licensing his tracks through TPCI, meaning that they were receiving a portion of the profits beforehand, which makes this sudden takedown all the more puzzling.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Magic Mole on February 08, 2016, 06:26:35 PM
    Welp, goodbye, no more listening to brilliant orchestrations of my favorite Pokemon music on YouTube.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on February 10, 2016, 07:25:00 AM
    Lol so now I'm officially asking, if anyone happens to go to Gamestop, could they pick up an extra Mew serial code for me? I'm so worried I won't be able to find a ride there in time to get Mew.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on February 10, 2016, 07:34:48 AM
    http://www.serebii.net/news/2016/10-February-2016.shtml

    Ummmmmmmmmmmmmm
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Olimar12345 on February 10, 2016, 11:56:22 AM
    Quote from: SlowPokemon on February 10, 2016, 07:25:00 AMLol so now I'm officially asking, if anyone happens to go to Gamestop, could they pick up an extra Mew serial code for me? I'm so worried I won't be able to find a ride there in time to get Mew.

    I asked at my local game stop and they were out. They did say that another one near me has tons of them, so I just have to find time to go there. (Actually, I might be headed out there later today)
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on February 10, 2016, 02:39:27 PM
    Oh that'd be awesome if you could get one for me! I'd really appreciate it
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on February 10, 2016, 03:26:34 PM
    Quote from: Dudeman on February 10, 2016, 07:34:48 AMhttp://www.serebii.net/news/2016/10-February-2016.shtml

    Ummmmmmmmmmmmmm
    Well... it kind of looks like a Diancie that somebody saw once then tried to recreate from memory.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on February 14, 2016, 09:07:18 PM
    That Pokémon has officially been revealed in America as Magearna and it's classified as the "artificial Pokémon." Its type is still unknown.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Zeila on February 14, 2016, 10:24:49 PM
    It looks like it could be a bug/steel type. I'd be pretty shocked if it wasn't at least steel
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on February 14, 2016, 10:28:23 PM
    I think it's far more likely to be a Steel/Fairy or a Steel/Psychic. If it was meant to be a Bug-type, I think its human creators would have made it look like more of a bug.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on February 14, 2016, 10:40:01 PM
    Quote from: SlowPokemon on February 14, 2016, 09:07:18 PMMagearna
    That sounds a bit... derpy. But punny, nonetheless.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: E. Gadd Industries on February 15, 2016, 01:58:44 PM
    I got a Bulbasaur lanyard and Eeveelution shirt today. I'm gearing up for the 27th!!

    Btw, what's your favorite Eeveelution? Mine's Leafeon!
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on February 15, 2016, 02:00:23 PM
    I got eshop funds, so I can get Blue on VC!
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on February 15, 2016, 02:02:24 PM
    Quote from: E. Gadd Industries on February 15, 2016, 01:58:44 PMI got a Bulbasaur lanyard and Eeveelution shirt today. I'm gearing up for the 27th!!

    Btw, what's your favorite Eeveelution? Mine's Leafeon!

    Same! Leafeon is my absolute favorite.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on February 15, 2016, 02:02:47 PM
    Umbreon walls hard in UU and is generally really annoying to fight if it's played right, but design-wise I think my favorite is Jolteon. Now, if there was a Ghost-type Eeveelution, it would instantly be my favorite. Get on it, GameFreak.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on February 15, 2016, 02:05:12 PM
    Same. I need my Ghost Eevolution!
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on February 15, 2016, 03:18:10 PM
    [snip]
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on February 15, 2016, 03:27:02 PM
    ...that is the cutest thing i've ever heard
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Olimar12345 on February 15, 2016, 03:27:39 PM
    ^^Right??
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dude on February 15, 2016, 03:31:10 PM
    Just remember if they had a yellow sharpie at the time, your favorite pokemon would have been a jolteon.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on February 15, 2016, 03:31:51 PM
    Espeon's my favorite, though. Love the design and always had it on my team in Johto.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on February 15, 2016, 03:35:04 PM
    Quote from: Dude on February 15, 2016, 03:31:10 PMJust remember if they had a yellow sharpie at the time, your favorite pokemon would have been a jolteon.

    Yup! I won't even deny that that's true lol
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on February 15, 2016, 03:52:39 PM
    I'd probably rank them:
    Espeon
    Jolteon
    Vaporeon
    Leafeon
    Umbreon
    Flareon
    Sylveon
    Glaceon

    I've always liked Espeon since I played Pokemon XD. My opinions of the other ones are mostly ranked by my preference for their appearance or my experiences with them in competitive battling.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on February 15, 2016, 04:05:45 PM
    After Flareon, my favorites are variable, but probably go in this order:
    (Flareon)
    Sylveon
    Umbreon
    Espeon
    Vaporeon
    Leafeon
    Jolteon
    Glaceon
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Oronoco on February 15, 2016, 04:41:05 PM
    When I was in marching band, I was assigned a Cubone because I looked gentle on the outside, but deep-down, everyone thought I had the potential to whop someone upside the head with a bone.

    Altissimo's story is much better. Flareon's my favorite, too.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: E. Gadd Industries on February 15, 2016, 05:36:39 PM
    I don't suppose I ever had a reason why Rotom was my favorite Pokémon. I just thought the appliance idea was cool. Heheh... But grass will always be my favorite type, and electric my 2nd favorite!
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on February 15, 2016, 05:50:51 PM
    My favorite Pokémon EVER is Cinccino. Minccino is my second favorite.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Oronoco on February 15, 2016, 06:11:49 PM
    ^^^Something about the way you said that is just comical. Guess I wasn't expecting Minccino to come right after Cinccino.

    Quote from: E. Gadd Industries on February 15, 2016, 05:36:39 PMI don't suppose I ever had a reason why Rotom was my favorite Pokémon. I just thought the appliance idea was cool. Heheh... But grass will always be my favorite type, and electric my 2nd favorite!
    So do you like Mow Rotom?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on February 15, 2016, 06:26:00 PM
    I think everyone should know my favorite - but for those who don't, it's Drifloon!
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on February 15, 2016, 06:44:35 PM
    Drifloon is the spawn of satan
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: E. Gadd Industries on February 16, 2016, 05:30:38 AM
    Quote from: Oronoco on February 15, 2016, 06:11:49 PMSo do you like Mow Rotom?
    Yup! :D
    If The Pokémon Company ever came out with a Grass-Electric type, though, chances are, it'd be my favorite.

    Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on February 15, 2016, 06:44:35 PMDrifloon is the spawn of satan
    Well, battling them is a pain at times, I will agree with that. XD
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: JDMEK5 on February 16, 2016, 07:31:25 AM
    Quote from: E. Gadd Industries on February 15, 2016, 05:36:39 PMI just thought the appliance idea was cool.
    #Chandelure #Garbodor #Klefki #Doublade #householditempokemonarelazyexcusesforcreativity
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on February 16, 2016, 08:16:05 AM
    Quote from: JDMEK5 on February 16, 2016, 07:31:25 AM#Chandelure #Garbodor #Klefki #Doublade #householditempokemonarelazyexcusesforcreativity

    #Magnemite #Grimer #Voltorb #thishasbeengoingonsincegen1 #pokémonaregettingmorecreativenotless
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BrainyLucario on February 16, 2016, 08:30:42 AM
    I just found Pokemon shuffle (mobile version), how long has it been out? I feel pike i missed out a lot.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on February 16, 2016, 09:01:11 AM
    Quote from: JDMEK5 on February 16, 2016, 07:31:25 AM#Chandelure #Garbodor #Klefki #Doublade #householditempokemonarelazyexcusesforcreativity

    If you talk like this and you're not being ironic, I WILL bitch you out. Make no mistake. Pokémon are as creative as they've ever been.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: E. Gadd Industries on February 16, 2016, 09:39:01 AM
    Quote from: JDMEK5 on February 16, 2016, 07:31:25 AM#Chandelure #Garbodor #Klefki #Doublade #householditempokemonarelazyexcusesforcreativity
    I'm discussing how it could change forms based on which appliance it was associated with.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on February 18, 2016, 01:07:38 PM
    Quote from: Altissimo on February 16, 2016, 08:16:05 AM#Magnemite #Grimer #Voltorb #thishasbeengoingonsincegen1 #pokémonaregettingmorecreativenotless
    Grimer is not a valid answer and isn't comparable to garbodor or trubbish which are literally living trash bags

    oh yeah also bergmite is just a zelda enemy
    copy pasted
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on February 18, 2016, 01:39:34 PM
    Trubbish and Garbodor were a commentary on the amount of pollution and trash in New York City (on which Unova is based). Grimer and Muk are a commentary on the amount of toxic waste produced by plants in Japan (on part of which Kanto is based). And if you seriously think the design artists at Game Freak are copying anything, let alone Zelda, you've got a screw loose.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on February 18, 2016, 02:29:22 PM
    (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fzeldawiki.org%2Fimages%2F9%2F9f%2FMiniFreezard_Large.png&hash=7c88fda350efcc1d47381ba2271dc6d7c34ebe28)

    (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.psypokes.com%2Fdex%2Fpicdex%2Fgloballink%2F300%2F712.png&hash=74136b0f88cc8977e96cd02fbe49585e08005d6b)

    more specifically the PSMD ingame model looks more like the first image than the second one


    but how exactly do trash bags and key rings and ice cream cones come alive is what I'd like to know
    at least rotom and chandelure are ghost types which makes sense
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on February 18, 2016, 02:30:37 PM
    Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on February 18, 2016, 02:29:22 PMbut how exactly do trash bags and key rings and ice cream cones come alive is what I'd like to know

    but how exactly do magnets and piles of sludge and whatever the hell koffing is come alive is what I'd like to know
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on February 18, 2016, 02:33:06 PM
    Quote from: Altissimo on February 18, 2016, 02:30:37 PMbut how exactly do magnets and piles of sludge and whatever the hell koffing is come alive is what I'd like to know
    my argument is only for grimer, they make sense.
    I'm pretty sure his pokedex entry states that the waste is so hazardous it actually mutated into a living thing creating grimer.  I don't care about magnet, 3 magnets, poke ball, and upside down poke ball and those are legitimate indicators of the overall suckiness of the first gen
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on February 18, 2016, 02:49:52 PM
    gen 1 is imo the worst of all the gens. Most of my favorite mons are in it but it is also terminally uncreative lmao
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on February 18, 2016, 02:51:32 PM
    Idk, I think designing pokemon that are just oversized animals was ok the first few times
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on February 18, 2016, 02:53:27 PM
    Quote from: Altissimo on February 18, 2016, 02:49:52 PMgen 1 is imo the worst of all the gens. Most of my favorite mons are in it but it is also terminally uncreative lmao

    I don't think that's true. Gen I is an incredibly solid foundation to set the standards for monster design. If you don't have Pokémon that resemble actual animals, the player isn't really going to know what's going on. When you look at genius designs like Bulbasaur or Ninetales, of course they tend to stand out over the more generic ones like Rattata or Kangaskhan, but I really think the original 151 is a very solid set with a lot of genuine creativity. I would say Gen IV is the least good, just because there are such a small number of Pokémon and only about half of them are to my taste. Not that I really dislike any Pokémon.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on February 18, 2016, 02:58:17 PM
    i mean i don't mind them resembling actual animals but some of them are just so damned boring like persian and pidgey like you can Do More!
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on February 18, 2016, 03:31:47 PM
    Aww, I thought Pidgey was cute. But I do get where you're coming from.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: E. Gadd Industries on February 18, 2016, 04:00:24 PM
    Imo, Gen 4 is the best generation, but that's probably because my first Pokémon game ever was Platinum (which is also why I'm biased to Sinnoh)
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on February 18, 2016, 04:51:44 PM
    I sort of played the first 4 generations all at once so I feel like I'm not biased in regards to the first 4 gens in a vacuum.  Pokémon games are just made so different now (if you try to argue that point you're a fool) and I think that's why I'm hesitant toward gens 5 and 6

    What would have been best is if they had only released say, 20-30 pokemon in each generation, but make each generation dependent on other regions to gather all pokemon (so like hoenn would have say pikachus and marills but johto wouldn't have pikachus and kanto wouldn't have marills)
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mastersuperfan on February 18, 2016, 04:56:10 PM
    Sure, Gen 1 has some pretty uncreative Pokémon... but it's not that bad (especially considering it was the first generation, after all). Plus, there are quite a few cool Pokémon there as well.

    I would say that, despite the good music and story, Gen 5 has the most uncreative Pokémon by far. Just look at the evolutionary of lines of Pokémon like Klink and Vanilluxe... It's easy to tell that they started running out of ideas.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on February 18, 2016, 05:23:37 PM
    Quote from: mastersuperfan on February 18, 2016, 04:56:10 PMI would say that, despite the good music and story, Gen 5 has the most uncreative Pokémon by far. Just look at the evolutionary of lines of Pokémon like Klink and Vanilluxe... It's easy to tell that they started running out of ideas.

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO this exact argument is what i've been trying to say Is Not Fucking True all damn dayyyyyyyyyy nobody listen to me :(
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Oronoco on February 18, 2016, 05:48:01 PM
    Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on February 18, 2016, 04:51:44 PMmake each generation dependent on other regions to gather all pokemon (so like hoenn would have say pikachus and marills but johto wouldn't have pikachus and kanto wouldn't have marills)

    All the Pokémon-sharing is my least favorite thing about Kalos. When Pokémon are used in more than one region, the original regions become less unique. I'm fine with a realistic amount of Pokémon-sharing between regions, but Kalos just went too far.

    On the other hand, the original Gen V games didn't borrow any Pokémon from other regions, and that's part of what gives Unova such a unique charm.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on February 18, 2016, 05:59:10 PM
    Deciding what Pokémon to put in a region is a balancing act. On the one hand, you have long-time fans of the series that want to see new Pokémon in a new region, but on the other hand you have first-time players who have never seen a Pokémon before. Use too many, or only, new creatures and newer fans won't be able to experience older Pokémon first hand. Use too few and veterans will get upset by the lack of new Pokémon, but recent fans will find each one new.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on February 18, 2016, 06:19:17 PM
    Quote from: SlowPokemon on February 16, 2016, 09:01:11 AMIf you talk like this and you're not being ironic, I WILL bitch you out. Make no mistake. Pokémon are as creative as they've ever been.

    This applies still.

    And Noc I have no idea what you're talking about, literally almost nothing about the core gameplay of Pokémon has changed other than minor tweaks to the type chart. If you like one Pokémon game, you like all of them. It's as simple as that, idk where some people get off saying the new ones are so drastically different
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on February 18, 2016, 06:25:05 PM
    Quote from: SlowPokemon on February 18, 2016, 06:19:17 PMIf you like one Pokémon game, you like all of them. It's as simple as that, idk where some people get off saying the new ones are so drastically different
    Not saying they're drastically different, just that they've taken different approaches in how they make pokemon games especially concerning the story
    Quote from: Oronoco on February 18, 2016, 05:48:01 PMOn the other hand, the original Gen V games didn't borrow any Pokémon from other regions, and that's part of what gives Unova such a unique charm.
    that was the main reason I didn't ever play it
    Quote from: SlowPokemon on February 16, 2016, 09:01:11 AMIf you talk like this and you're not being ironic, I WILL bitch you out. Make no mistake. Pokémon are as creative as they've ever been.
    I guess that means we reach the point where no pokemon has ever been creative.

    Overall I think the main problem here is a majority of people here are pokemon fanboys who think the series can do no wrong
    feel free to replace the word "pokemon" with "undertale"
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Olimar12345 on February 18, 2016, 06:34:33 PM
    gen 3 is not my favorite so it must be the worst

    this is how facts are made
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on February 18, 2016, 06:35:31 PM
    I'm not saying the Pokémon series can do no wrong, but I'd go so far as to say that the main series games HAVEN'T done anything wrong. I've loved every Pokémon game I've ever played, and XY/ORAS are my favorite of the entire bunch. What's wrong with the new games that make them so different? Is putting a more interesting plot line in the game enough to make it bad lmao

    Edit: lol ninja
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on February 18, 2016, 06:37:40 PM
    Quote from: Oronoco on February 18, 2016, 05:48:01 PMOn the other hand, the original Gen V games didn't borrow any Pokémon from other regions, and that's part of what gives Unova such a unique charm.
    I think that both worked in its favor and worked against it. On one hand, you have a lot of great Pokemon... but on the other hand, you have a lot of boring or ugly "filler" Pokemon (essentially, more great Pokemon, but more bad or unmemorable ones). Overall, though, I think the good outweighs the bad.

    Gen 6 sort of had the opposite of this- comparatively few Pokemon, but also fewer "filler" Pokemon (yes, I do like Klefki), so there are fewer absolutely terrible Pokemon (the only one I would consider bad is Aromatisse; so essentially, fewer great Pokemon, but fewer bad or unmemorable ones as well).
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on February 18, 2016, 06:39:36 PM
    off the top of my head, the pokemon I know and like from gen 5 and 6 are ferrothorn, jellicent, and chandelure.  Greninja would be better if his name didn't make me think of gorillas
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on February 18, 2016, 06:39:56 PM
    Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on February 18, 2016, 06:37:40 PM(the only one I would consider bad is Aromatisse)
    And Slurpuff, imo. How did the two version-exclusive Fairy-types end up so terrible?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on February 18, 2016, 06:51:05 PM
    Quote from: Dudeman on February 18, 2016, 06:39:56 PMAnd Slurpuff, imo. How did the two version-exclusive Fairy-types end up so terrible?

    Aromatisse and Slurpuff, along with the absolutely grotesque monstrosities that are Binacle and Barbaracle, are imo the worst Pokémon to have been created. But I love all of the other XY mons to death so I can overlook a few that aren't to my liking lol
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Oronoco on February 18, 2016, 06:52:49 PM
    Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on February 18, 2016, 06:37:40 PMI think that both worked in its favor and worked against it. On one hand, you have a lot of great Pokemon... but on the other hand, you have a lot of boring or ugly "filler" Pokemon (essentially, more great Pokemon, but more bad or unmemorable ones). Overall, though, I think the good outweighs the bad.
    I really agree with this.

    The first time I played Black, I remember seeing Pokémon like Klingklang and Stunfisk for the first time and worrying that Pokémon was going to pot. Now I can't believe I didn't like them. I love Unova Pokémon. Gates to Infinity really helped me fall in love with Gen V Pokémon, too.

    Maybe if Aromatisse and Slurpuff had cool roles is PSMD, I would like them more.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Olimar12345 on February 18, 2016, 06:55:13 PM
    Quote from: SlowPokemon on February 18, 2016, 06:51:05 PM...along with the absolutely grotesque monstrosities that are Binacle and Barbaracle, are imo the worst Pokémon to have been created.

    If you talk like this and you're not being ironic, I WILL bitch you out. Make no mistake. Binacle/Barbaracle are as creative as they've ever been.

    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on February 18, 2016, 06:56:18 PM
    is calling kefka a binacle a bannable offense
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on February 18, 2016, 06:57:49 PM
    Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on February 18, 2016, 06:56:18 PMis calling kefka a binacle a bannable offense
    Depends on his mood, I guess.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on February 18, 2016, 06:59:46 PM
    Quote from: Dudeman on February 18, 2016, 06:39:56 PMAnd Slurpuff, imo. How did the two version-exclusive Fairy-types end up so terrible?
    I like Slurpuff, personally; it reminds me a bit of Quina from Final Fantasy 9.

    EDIT: I also like Barbaracle more than others seems to. While looking for pictures of it, I also found this (https://40.media.tumblr.com/8a9e1fecac4f408adbf0b88b7c361969/tumblr_mvq1ca7I961qmvkevo1_500.png). :P
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on February 18, 2016, 07:08:57 PM
    Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on February 18, 2016, 06:59:46 PMI also found this (https://40.media.tumblr.com/8a9e1fecac4f408adbf0b88b7c361969/tumblr_mvq1ca7I961qmvkevo1_500.png). :P
    Beautiful.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on February 18, 2016, 07:09:39 PM
    Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on February 18, 2016, 06:25:05 PMOverall I think the main problem here is a majority of people here are pokemon fanboys who think the series can do no wrong
    feel free to replace the word "pokemon" with "undertale"

    I'm not one of those lmao, I have some sort of issue, often multiple, with literally every main-series game from Red/Blue to X/Y. But there are 2 things I don't think I'll ever dislike in Pokémon, and those are a) the region designs and b) the Pokémon themselves. Now, of course I have more favorite gens' mons than others (while gen 4 introduced Dialga, Giratina, Shaymin, Leafeon, Staraptor, LUCARIO, and Rotom, some of my favorite mons, I dislike most of the newly-introduced evolutions/pre-evolutions and overall rate the gen's mons low as a result), and more favorite Pokémon than others (as much as I bash on gen 1 Flareon, Pikachu and Dragonite are all on my top 5 list), but I overall heavily disagree with the idea that either of those things are getting any worse as the series progresses, and I will fight anyone who disagrees, just like Slow.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on February 18, 2016, 07:10:31 PM
    Quote from: Olimar12345 on February 18, 2016, 06:55:13 PMIf you talk like this and you're not being ironic, I WILL bitch you out. Make no mistake. Binacle/Barbaracle are as creative as they've ever been.

    Lmao I feel like you're trying to make a point but your logic doesn't hold up on so many levels. First of all, I didn't say they weren't creative, just that they were ugly. Secondly, the people I've been addressing haven't provided any legitimate reasons for their complaints. Nice try though pal 😂 I mean if you want to argue that they're cute go ahead but it's not gonna change the facts

    Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on February 18, 2016, 06:56:18 PMis calling kefka a binacle a bannable offense

    I kept posting about that after XY came out and calling him Binacle and Bin and finally he asked why and I said "because it's the ugliest Pokémon and also my least favorite" and I got banned

    it was worth it
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Olimar12345 on February 18, 2016, 07:13:38 PM
    Nah i was just being silly.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: JDMEK5 on February 18, 2016, 08:21:55 PM
    Interesting thoughts and reading them has helped me learn my own opinion. I have a fix to make.

    I was wrong when I said I thought certain Pokémon lacked creativity. That's not what I actually thought even though I thought I thought it. The reality is that deep down I seem to have a hard time swallowing the idea of living creatures based on non-living things. I discovered this when I realized that I get the same feelings toward Magnemite as I do towards Chandelure. Only thing is, my first game was Platinum. So I have a huge soft spot for I-IV gen Pokémon which, as I fully understand, is a huge lack in logic. That's why it's so easy for me to naturally bash on gen V and VI but so much harder for me to do the same for gens I-IV.

    So there.

    I must admit though that my reaction to the new Pokémon in gen VI as X/Y were being released was far more hopeful than my reaction to gen V was when Black/White were being released.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Bespinben on February 18, 2016, 08:35:25 PM
    (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35209091/O1gj6Ra.png)
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on February 18, 2016, 08:39:33 PM
    they're not smart enough to make titles that good
    next will be 1 and 2 and they'll copyright "3" but it won't be made into a game
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: E. Gadd Industries on February 19, 2016, 05:13:13 PM
    Quote from: Bespinben on February 18, 2016, 08:35:25 PM(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35209091/O1gj6Ra.png)
    ...Is it bad that the first thing I thought when I saw that was "Huh... Together, they spell 'P. U.'...Interesting."?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on February 24, 2016, 06:19:24 AM
    Pokemon Direct coming this Friday at 10 am EST! Hype!!
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on February 24, 2016, 07:35:54 AM
    Aaaaaaaand it's only five...minutes...long...?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on February 24, 2016, 07:43:52 AM
    Whatever they're doing, they're announcing it short and sweet and to the point.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: E. Gadd Industries on February 24, 2016, 09:34:36 AM
    I wonder when Go will be announced...?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on February 24, 2016, 10:03:00 AM
    You of course mean a release date, right? Because, you know...the game itself has been announced. I think they've been saying end of this year, but I hope there's a more solid answer soon.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: E. Gadd Industries on February 24, 2016, 12:28:18 PM
    XD I didn't think about that; yes, I meant release date. I've heard everything from April to mid 2017.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: DonValentino on February 25, 2016, 06:17:49 AM
    NEW POKEMON GAMES INCOMING! MASSIVE SPOILERS FOR THIS WEEK'S DIRECT - PROCEED AT YOUR OWN DISCRETION

    Spoiler
    http://nerdleaks.com/videogames/nintendo-will-announce-pokemon-sun-and-moon-tomorrow-157
    [close]
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on February 25, 2016, 06:29:40 AM
    YOOOOOOOO
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Oronoco on February 25, 2016, 06:35:52 AM
    AAAAAAAAAH
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Waddle Bro on February 25, 2016, 06:59:27 AM
    :]
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BrainyLucario on February 25, 2016, 08:16:24 AM
    Sun and Moon? Reminds me of Solrock and Lunatone... I get the feeling the two main legendary pokemon in this game might be similar to them, but hopefully that wont be the case.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on February 25, 2016, 08:28:59 AM
    I'm sure the logos will be reflected in the cover Pokémon designs, like with X and Y! Maybe.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BrainyLucario on February 25, 2016, 08:33:31 AM
    Quote from: SlowPokemon on February 25, 2016, 08:28:59 AMI'm sure the logos will be reflected in the cover Pokémon designs, like with X and Y! Maybe.
    Yeah.  The name makes me think the games somehow going to involve space. Thar would be a nice twist, we may  even get more alien-like pokemon....
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on February 25, 2016, 08:54:59 AM
    I'm going Moon based on the logo (also dark beats light probably)
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on February 25, 2016, 09:12:26 AM
    all the unused gemstones...
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on February 25, 2016, 09:45:47 AM
    Why do they have to be gemstones
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: E. Gadd Industries on February 25, 2016, 10:07:43 AM
    Maybe a Light type? Ima try to get both, though!
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on February 25, 2016, 10:08:58 AM
    I honestly don't want or see a need for a light type lol i mean it's the first thing everyone always jumps to when they think new types but nah

    (now sound type, on the other hand)
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on February 25, 2016, 10:14:56 AM
    Quote from: SlowPokemon on February 25, 2016, 09:45:47 AMWhy do they have to be gemstones
    the gemstones were a great idea
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on February 25, 2016, 10:21:55 AM
    I don't want this to be a Gen 7 announcement. I really, really don't want this to be a Gen 7 announcement. Gen 6 came out a little over two years ago. The gap between Gen 5 and Gen 6 was a solid three years (and then a little), and we still haven't gotten a third version for Gen 6. This feels too fast and too greedy for hype. Hey, maybe Sun and Moon are the sequel games to X and Y in the vein of Black 2 and White 2, but I really hope that this isn't a Gen 7 announcement. Not yet, anyway.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on February 25, 2016, 10:32:33 AM
    Perhaps they are sequels! Either way, I'm SUPER HYPE
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Latios212 on February 25, 2016, 10:46:30 AM
    Hope it's a Gen 6 game. Better be a Gen 6 game...
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on February 25, 2016, 11:24:17 AM
    I'm good with moving on to Gen VII personally. If these games are announced and come out in November, it'll be over three years since XY came out. That's exactly the length between Black and White and X and Y for Japan, and if you remember correctly a good bit longer than the same wait for US. Our Gen V only lasted from March 2011 to October 2013--basically two and a half years.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on February 25, 2016, 11:27:44 AM
    Quote from: SlowPokemon on February 25, 2016, 11:24:17 AMI'm good with moving on to Gen VII personally.
    of course you are
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: braix on February 25, 2016, 11:29:38 AM
    yay.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on February 25, 2016, 11:33:27 AM
    Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on February 25, 2016, 11:27:44 AMof course you are

    I don't see the point in wasting away in the same gen for more than a few years rather than thinking of ways to expand and improve. Gen IV is my least favorite simply because it went on for too long and all of the games in that gen were essentially the same in terms of gameplay.

    also, remember how much better Black and White were than Diamond and Pearl, now that they had tried some things and learned more about the DS hardware? Yeah, I'm guessing Moon and Sun will be that much better than X and Y if they are new generation games. Just saying new is not always bad and a series like Pokémon continuing to grow and provide new ideas is fine with me.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on February 25, 2016, 11:36:17 AM
    (https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xla1/v/t1.0-9/12572982_10153853468433764_3355883875734892664_n.jpg?oh=4763921c3f3674d688a5efb54a626de9&oe=576B5E5E)
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on February 25, 2016, 11:41:01 AM
    did u even read my post i'm expanding on my viewpoint you questioned not freaking out or being sensitive
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on February 25, 2016, 11:41:39 AM
    Nocturne, please cool it. Slow is sharing his speculation on Sun and Moon just like the rest of us, and it's not fair to single him out for it.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on February 25, 2016, 11:51:54 AM
    I am sorry if I came off as a dick tho it's very possible and has happened before. I really didn't mean to sound rude or angry I promise
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Latios212 on February 25, 2016, 12:13:56 PM
    Quote from: SlowPokemon on February 25, 2016, 11:33:27 AMalso, remember how much better Black and White were than Diamond and Pearl, now that they had tried some things and learned more about the DS hardware?
    I don't really agree with this. I liked D/P better as a whole. What things exactly are you referring to?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on February 25, 2016, 12:14:23 PM
    Another thought: The design of the logo (specifically, the solid border around the title) is rather similar to the design of X and Y's titles. Yet another reason why I think they're probably sequels.

    ninja'd by conversation carry on
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on February 25, 2016, 12:15:22 PM
    uh so the moon has a dark type symbol in it but the sun doesn't have a recognizable symbol in it (at least to me)
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on February 25, 2016, 12:37:53 PM
    Quote from: Latios212 on February 25, 2016, 12:13:56 PMI don't really agree with this. I liked D/P better as a whole. What things exactly are you referring to?

    In general, and this is I suppose a matter of opinion (though I had thought it was the popular opinion), I thought Diamond and Pearl felt incredibly clunky and weighed down with unnecessary slowness (whereas Black and White moved much faster and felt in general more polished). The story was fresh and better in Black and White, we got a lot more new Pokémon (and generally higher quality ones, in my opinion), and several old-fashioned things such as, off the top of my head, excessive field HM use or TM expiration were deemed obsolete or simply obtuse and done away with. In general, the Unova games felt much smoother and exciting than the Sinnoh games.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Latios212 on February 25, 2016, 01:06:39 PM
    Quote from: SlowPokemon on February 25, 2016, 12:37:53 PMIn general, and this is I suppose a matter of opinion (though I had thought it was the popular opinion), I thought Diamond and Pearl felt incredibly clunky and weighed down with unnecessary slowness (whereas Black and White moved much faster and felt in general more polished). The story was fresh and better in Black and White, we got a lot more new Pokémon (and generally higher quality ones, in my opinion), and several old-fashioned things such as, off the top of my head, excessive field HM use or TM expiration were deemed obsolete or simply obtuse and done away with. In general, the Unova games felt much smoother and exciting than the Sinnoh games.

    Better story and TM change, I'll give you that :P On the other hand, I kind of felt the game was a bit too saturated with new Pokémon. It's actually been a while since I played through B/W, so you may be right about the pacing.

    I think my main issue with B/W is the way it looks. The Skyarrow Bridge scene is amazing, but I feel overall the attempts made to increase depth perception made everything look really clunky and pixelated. I don't mind a full 3D look for Pokémon (X/Y looks awesome!) but when things constantly zoom in and out in Gen 5, it doesn't look good to me. Particularly the moving battle sprites. I prefer the overworld of D/P for that reason - it looks smoother. Another thing is that D/P to me seems more colorful and fun to explore. I never found any of the locations in B/W to be particularly memorable, but I love just wandering aimlessly through Sinnoh.

    (Oh, and both soundtracks are phenomenal, but I undoubtedly give the nod to D/P.)
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on February 25, 2016, 01:20:53 PM
    As great as sinnoh exploration is it's got nothing on all the sea exploration in hoenn
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Oronoco on February 25, 2016, 01:23:50 PM
    I've always been a bit disappointed in how "linear" Unova and Kalos are. It takes away some of that fun exploration feeling. I like Route overlap.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: braix on February 25, 2016, 02:05:10 PM
    I think at one point during the making of Gen V, they got lazy and just made Pokémon out of garbage and ice cream.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on February 25, 2016, 02:14:14 PM
    NO
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on February 25, 2016, 02:16:41 PM
    they did make pokemon out of garbage and ice cream though, that's hard to justify when you've been making these games for 15 years
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on February 25, 2016, 02:27:59 PM
    they did make pokemon out of magnets and poke balls though, that's hard to justify when you've been making these games for 0 years
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Olimar12345 on February 25, 2016, 02:44:37 PM
     Upside down balls and magnets are really creative though
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on February 25, 2016, 02:50:57 PM
    totes. totes
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on February 25, 2016, 02:55:04 PM
    Quote from: Altissimo on February 25, 2016, 02:27:59 PMthey did make pokemon out of magnets and poke balls though, that's hard to justify when you've been making these games for 0 years
    I'd say it's justifiable after 0 years
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: E. Gadd Industries on February 25, 2016, 03:36:05 PM
    My hope is that for Sun & Moon, you can trade w/ XY/ORAS.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on February 25, 2016, 03:56:41 PM
    Pretty sure you'll be able to, I don't see why not.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: E. Gadd Industries on February 25, 2016, 04:15:31 PM
    Yeah, but I know too well the inconvenience that is supposedly fixed by Pkmn Bank. Call it what you will. I just think of it as "bad experience"
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on February 25, 2016, 04:49:38 PM
    Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on February 25, 2016, 02:55:04 PMI'd say it's justifiable after 0 years

    I think your logic is backwards
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on February 25, 2016, 05:56:39 PM
    Quote from: Altissimo on February 25, 2016, 04:49:38 PMI think your logic is backwards
    I mean after 15 years they know what makes a good pokemon design or not right
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: E. Gadd Industries on February 25, 2016, 06:01:22 PM
    That makes sense to me.

    EDIT: Oh! I forgot to ask, what's everyone planning to do for the 20th Anniversary this Saturday?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Olimar12345 on February 25, 2016, 08:22:18 PM
    Oh my god. I just found my and my brother's old Pokemon red and blue nintendo players guide. From back in the day. Just in time for the rereleases. The cover is missing and it is bound with tape. The nostalgia is extraordinary. Saturday is going to be awesome.

    pics
    (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs13.postimg.org%2Fom0afhwcn%2Fimage.jpg&hash=895acabe0d6b8b06766125f3aa193802aff75fb4) (http://postimg.org/image/bum48zmkj/full/)

    (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs17.postimg.org%2F5avhj6wbj%2Fimage.jpg&hash=df45331004cd6d0da598871e40c5245f97aae7c0) (http://postimg.org/image/v6f82dy57/full/)

    (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs9.postimg.org%2Fr712a1p5r%2Fimage.jpg&hash=bc4b6c90f26c72ea4a24e16a8e0059b48c9b6617) (http://postimg.org/image/aj9k7jue3/full/)

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    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on February 25, 2016, 08:33:50 PM
    Oh, wow.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on February 25, 2016, 09:05:58 PM
    I can't wait to play Yellow for the first time! The Kanto games have such a lovely pure feel. The same goes for Johto, I guess. 8-bit Pokémon in general.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dude on February 26, 2016, 01:44:04 AM
    I don't know how I feel about sun and Moon for names because "Pokemon S&M"
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on February 26, 2016, 01:48:52 AM
    O_O

    Someone didn't think that through.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: TheDreamingHawk on February 26, 2016, 06:50:36 AM
    14 minutes until the direct. Trapped in school so I'll be using a live blog to get the news. Honestly, I really don't have any faith after the train wreck known as ORAS. No game has shattered my heart as much as those two did (Long story but others who didn't like them would figure out why). I'd hope for a PMDI remake, but I know that's not happening. Let's just hope that they reveal gen VI games (If Sun/Moon are said games) and not a new gen so soon. And I hope that it's fun.

    Looking at said logos for sun and moon though, I kinda have a feeling the mascot of Moon is going to be vampiric in a way, the reflection seems to show it. Sun's reflection just seems like a generic sun of sorts so I really can't guess.

    BTW, was I the only one who immediately thought of MMBN4 Red Sun/Blue Moon when the trademark leaked?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on February 26, 2016, 06:54:53 AM
    WHO'S READY FOR THE DIRECT
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on February 26, 2016, 06:58:47 AM
    Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on February 26, 2016, 06:50:36 AMBTW, was I the only one who immediately thought of MMBN4 Red Sun/Blue Moon when the trademark leaked?
    Aw, dang it, that slipped my mind. I'm ashamed to call myself a Mega Fan.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on February 26, 2016, 07:09:03 AM
    That was a cute little Direct. Excited for a new set of Pokémon games.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Olimar12345 on February 26, 2016, 07:19:03 AM
    Too bad moon and sun aren't happening until holiday 2016. A new Pokémon game would've been awesome during the summer.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Yug_Guy on February 26, 2016, 07:35:48 AM
    Don't worry guys, I got some fresh screencaps from the Sun & Moon portion of the direct. Take a look here:
    http://imgur.com/gallery/b8oen
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on February 26, 2016, 07:37:41 AM
    Those are cool! (And that is a Fletchling)
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on February 26, 2016, 07:44:24 AM
    I would've really liked a gameplay trailer...
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on February 26, 2016, 08:01:12 AM
    Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on February 26, 2016, 06:50:36 AMHonestly, I really don't have any faith after the train wreck known as ORAS. No game has shattered my heart as much as those two did (Long story but others who didn't like them would figure out why).

    holy shit you're like my polar opposite first you dislike explorers and then oras
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on February 26, 2016, 08:06:12 AM
    Quote from: Nebbles on February 26, 2016, 07:44:24 AMI would've really liked a gameplay trailer...

    This was my initial reaction, but then I realized they were announced for holiday 2016. So we do have plenty of time to get plenty of info :D

    Quote from: Altissimo on February 26, 2016, 08:01:12 AMholy shit you're like my polar opposite first you dislike explorers and then oras

    Actually yeah I am curious why you didn't like ORAS.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Waddle Bro on February 26, 2016, 08:09:01 AM
    people complaining they want more or "is that really all of it?" gtfo srsly, when do you get new 'mon games announced this is a day of joy. they b saving the beefcake trailers for e3 :]
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: E. Gadd Industries on February 26, 2016, 08:12:37 AM
    I just watched the Direct. I sped through my Geometry final, and did manage to clip the last 3 minutes of it. I just rewatched the entire thing in the Archives. I really need to start watching the Direct regularly, honestly. XD I'm excited! Not sure if I want an entirely new generation, but perhaps a few new mythicals/legendaries would be cool. I also didn't see anything wrong with ORAS (although I have yet to get Sapphire).
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: TheDreamingHawk on February 26, 2016, 08:17:30 AM
    Quote from: Altissimo on February 26, 2016, 08:01:12 AMholy shit you're like my polar opposite first you dislike explorers and then oras

    Explorers I only hate due to the characters. ORAS I hate due to the heartbreak. I'd go into more detail but ATM I'm going to take a test. I'll just come back later and explain why I really can't trust game freak any more. (Early TLDR: it was lazily made compared to the superior remake that HGSS provided)
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Latios212 on February 26, 2016, 08:24:36 AM
    Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on February 26, 2016, 08:17:30 AM(Early TLDR: it was lazily made compared to the superior remake that HGSS provided)
    I don't not trust Game Freak or anything but I do agree with this point. ORAS didn't really feel very fresh and didn't bring much new aside from the Delta Episode. They didn't even include the Battle Frontier. I easily have only a fraction of the hours logged on ORAS as I do on many of my other games.

    Oh, and the music. None of the remixes are particularly remarkable, especially when you compare them to how HG/SS had a great amount of wonderfully re-imagined tracks like Cianwood City, National Park, New Bark Town, Route 29, Pewter City....
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on February 26, 2016, 08:44:03 AM
    WOO NEW GAMES HYPE.

    Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on February 26, 2016, 08:17:30 AM(Early TLDR: it was lazily made compared to the superior remake that HGSS provided)
    Personally, I thought that ORAS did more justice to their original games than HGSS (though maybe I was expecting something more along the lines of what Black/White did later).
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on February 26, 2016, 08:45:15 AM
    @Latios and TDH
    I mean there's nothing I can do except disagree haha but I am pretty sad that some people feel that way. I constantly see "They didn't even include the Battle Frontier" in complaints about the remakes of Ruby and Sapphire and this argument just pisses me off to no end. I get it, you want the Battle Frontier and they opted for a straight remake of Ruby and Sapphire with only a couple elements of Emerald. Is that really enough to dislike an entire game over? The original elements of Ruby and Sapphire were enhanced immensely. Complaining about the music? They went for (in most cases) a straight revamping of the original instrumentation--not because they were lazy, but because the only reason they changed the GS music so much was because the GBC was so limited that they couldn't produce the type of atmosphere they really wanted. They'd have been foolish to make three line arrangements of all of the 8-bit stuff, but if they already accomplished the mood they were after in the GBA's midi files, it's their creative call to use them and update them.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on February 26, 2016, 08:57:50 AM
    I agree with Slow about the soundtrack. I'm a Gen 3 child, and hearing the tracks beautifully remastered, not rearranged, was probably the largest nostalgia overload I've had. Why should we get a completely new soundtrack? The old one is so good that all they had to do was update the soundfont.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Latios212 on February 26, 2016, 09:08:44 AM
    The lack of Battle Frontier isn't the reason I dislike the game :P I just don't feel that motivated to play it; I can't exactly place a finger on what it is, but I just enjoyed XY (if we're comparing gen 6 games) or HGSS (if we're comparing remakes) a whole lot more.

    In regards to the music, I gotta disagree there too haha. I wouldn't buy a remake just because they've assigned new soundfonts to the tracks. I'm not saying they should re-do every track, but I didn't feel like there was enough to keep it feeling fresh. Furthermore, I feel like the emphasis on melody and bass in the ORAS soundtrack even diminishes the appeal of these tracks - I agree that the soundtrack did a good job of setting the mood in RS, but I don't feel the same certain charm when listening to the new tracks. Take Route 101, for example. Where did the 16th-note runs (starting at around 0:17) go from the original? They're not even audible unless you're listening really closely. This sort of route (no pun intended) taken with many of the tracks leaves ORAS tracks all sounding sort of similar to each other, if that makes any sense. Even in terms of preservation I don't feel like the ORAS soundtrack did a great job. Of course, it's still good and that's why I bought it and have it on my phone to listen to :P

    No offense intended, just stating why I like one more than the other. I respect your valid opinions of course ^^

    ninja'd by Dudeman but same applies
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on February 26, 2016, 09:57:46 AM
    I dislike the inclusion of so much forced railroading but pretty much everything else was on point. HGSS i took issue with because while they did expand a lot of stuff it wasn't enough to fix the inherent issues I had with GSC. In general ORAS felt like a revamp of RSE and thar's what I prefer. FRLG are my least favorite main line games because they are too much like a point for point faithful remake (which resulted in psychic remaining a horribly broken type bc there werent any dark or steel mons available, among other things) whereas I prefer a little bit of new ingenuity. So i like ORAS best as remakes and as games. They felt fleshed out and I liked that.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on February 26, 2016, 10:00:48 AM
    but the islands D:
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on February 26, 2016, 10:05:12 AM
    I don't mind the sevii islands. My hatred of most of the rest of frlg outweighs that.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on February 26, 2016, 10:51:52 AM
    The Sevii Islands were kinda lackluster to me ngl
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Yug_Guy on February 26, 2016, 10:58:43 AM
    Quote from: Dudeman on February 26, 2016, 08:57:50 AMI agree with Slow about the soundtrack. I'm a Gen 3 child, and hearing the tracks beautifully remastered, not rearranged, was probably the largest nostalgia overload I've had. Why should we get a completely new soundtrack? The old one is so good that all they had to do was update the soundfont.
    Yeah, same here. Except for one piece of music: Fortree City. While it might not be a big deal to some people, Fortree City is quite possibly my favorite town in the entire series, so remixing it in a way that didn't jive with me was definitely a bit of a letdown. It's not bad, but I love the faster & upbeat track in the originals a lot more.

    Since I bring it up: What are your favorite towns/cities in the main games? I'd love to hear!
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BrainyLucario on February 26, 2016, 11:03:43 AM
    Opelucid City (White) was always my favorite. It's music is really soothing and the old design of it is really spectacular.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on February 26, 2016, 11:09:04 AM
    Kanto: Lavender Town. Yep, you heard me. I dig the spooky.
    Johto: Ecruteak City without a doubt. Best music and the atmosphere is so charming.
    Hoenn: Lilycove City, the music is beautiful and it's a beautiful city by the ocean.
    Sinnoh: Toss between Hearthome and Canalave. Both have great music, and Canalave has just a special feel to it.
    Unova: Drifveil City had the best music, favorite town wise uhh, not sure.
    Kalos: lol
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Latios212 on February 26, 2016, 12:00:47 PM
    Oh god so many to choose from. Picking from original versions here.
    Kanto: Idk, Celadon maybe? They're all around the same level of awesomeness.
    Johto: Nope just nope can't pick. I love New Bark, Cherrygrove, Violet, Azalea, Goldenrod, and Ecruteak to death. That's all of them.
    Hoenn: Verdanturf is a step above the rest.
    Sinnoh: There's a bunch of great ones but Canalave is my favorite.
    Unova: I'm with Brainy here. Opelucid White is fantastic. Anville's pretty good too.
    Kalos: Probably Lumiose. Coumarine is also great.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on February 26, 2016, 12:19:09 PM
    Kanto: Cinnabon Island
    Johto: Goldenrod (I don't know any of the cities really)
    Hoenn: Lilycove bro.  I'm SOOOO confused why they updated mauville when lilycove seemed to be the hub town of hoenn
    Sinnoh: ohhh... uh... Sunyshore
    Unova: ???
    Kalos: what is this place never heard of it
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: braix on February 26, 2016, 12:25:57 PM
    what if they make a gameboy pokemon

    also i really liked hearthome and jubilife city, cant decide which one i liked better
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on February 26, 2016, 12:33:44 PM
    Kanto: I love Lavender Town. It's got a great atmosphere and in general is just pretty relaxing to be in because of that sad music. (Didn't mean to steal yours Nebbles lol)

    Johto: I like most of the towns in Johto, and Ecruteak is tied for my favorite but since Nebbles already elaborated I'll talk about my other favorite, Violet City. The sign in town calls it "the city of nostalgic scents," but if that's not enough, just look at the relaxed, rustic textures (in HGSS) or that strange, haphazard city design. It just reeks of character and the old-timey melody of the music there never fails to induce nostalgia.

    Hoenn: Sootopolis City. I've heard complaints about this city because it's difficult to get to and awkward to navigate, with the cities' two halves separated by a big body of water. However, this is just such a strikingly fascinating city to me. The white, chilly textures and strange designs of the houses (not found anywhere else in the game) combined with that haunting, cool soundtrack (also not found anywhere else in the game) always gives me a very excited and pleasant feeling.

    Sinnoh: I really, really love Floaroma Town. It has basically my favorite music in the game and to put such a relaxed town immediately after the first gym had a very cool effect on me. I think it's just a beautiful little town.

    Unova: Definitely Castelia City. Unova is based on New York City, and Castelia is right where Manhattan is if you line up the map. It embodies all the positive reasons I've always dreamed of living in NYC, and if I could live in any Pokémon town, this would be my choice. I love how people are streaming by at all times of the day, and it takes almost an hour just to check out the whole city every time I get there for the first time. This is an odd choice, but my runner-up would be Anville Town. There's nothing to do here except look at the trains and listen to the girl play her flute, but it's such a lovely melody that I find myself going there whenever I get the chance in-game.

    Kalos: Lumiose City is really nice, imo, for the same reasons as Castelia in Unova. I understand the complaints about getting around, but in my opinion, it just adds to the charm and it makes me feel totally immersed in this charming version of France Game Freak has created. Also, Shalour City. Dear god, the music is unbelievably affecting, and when it's combined with the zoomed-out view of Tower of Mastery, it almost makes me want to cry. The music also gives Geosenge Town a great ambience, and the trek through the muck and creepy swamps makes the fairytale atmosphere of Laverre City even more vibrant and interesting to me. Idk Kalos had a mix of really memorable towns and more forgettable ones (same as Sinnoh imo)

    Sorry I wrote so much lmao
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on February 26, 2016, 12:41:20 PM
    kanto: vermilion city 100%
    johto: vermilion city 100% ok wait you're serious? uh... azelea or violet honestly i can't choose
    hoenn: i like littleroot a lot, and sootopolis, and lilycove! actually though ever grande city might be my fave...

    i don't remember the music of any of the other 3 enough to tell u my faves lmao
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Oronoco on February 26, 2016, 03:00:03 PM
    Quote from: Altissimo on February 26, 2016, 12:41:20 PMactually though ever grande city might be my fave...

    In something-or-other grade way back when, I was part of a project to "create" a restaurant menu. So we founded the Ever Grande Restaurant: The paradise of flowers, the sea, and delicious food

    On the back of the menu we made it's address at something-something Victory Rd. and we just felt so cool
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Latios212 on February 26, 2016, 03:17:11 PM
    Aw man, elementary school when all the time was just talking about Pokémon with people lol

    Hey, now that we know what themes people like, we should make them good for the site... I have a partial arrangement of Ever Grande but I haven't touched it in a couple months >_>
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: E. Gadd Industries on February 27, 2016, 07:55:19 PM
    Happy 20th Birthday, Pokémon!
    I tried to get the .jpg file, but I couldn't find one from my phone, so here's the link instead. (https://www.google.com/search?safe=active&site=webhp&tbm=isch&source=hp&ei=hG7SVr-UO8GVmQGl05agCA&q=pokemon+20th+anniversary+fan+art&oq=pokemon+20th+anniversary+fan+art&gs_l=mobile-gws-hp.3...2680.13546.0.13949.41.37.4.14.14.0.311.4959.9j24j3j1.37.0....0...1c.1.64.mobile-gws-hp..1.36.2741.3.Mq7uxdDmgd4#safe=active&tbm=isch&q=pokemon+20th+anniversary+happy+birthday&imgrc=YsTZm6Uxr82woM%3A>)
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Hero of Trains on February 28, 2016, 05:49:28 PM
    I really liked the Lavender Town theme from Gold and Silver, mostly because Lavender Town worried me as a child and I was happy to see it become a better place.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on February 28, 2016, 05:53:32 PM
    I love the GSC version of Lavender Tower, but I'm pissed the Pokemon Tower got torn down for a Radio Tower.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: E. Gadd Industries on March 05, 2016, 08:44:09 AM
    I saw this list of "leaked Sun & Moon Pokémon", and there are three of them that are the Time Species, and then there's a Quantum Species and Singularity species. The first Time says Ghost/Rock, and the other two are Ghost/Steel. Zeitgeists, I guess. Quantum is Normal/Ghost (tfw), and Singularity is Dark/Psychic. Oh, there's also a Thermodynamic species. Fire/Ice. Again, tfw. It's like Volcanion! XD Well, except the fact that Volcanion is Fire/Water
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on March 05, 2016, 08:58:16 AM
    p sure thats fake
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on March 05, 2016, 10:14:36 AM
    I saw that list, but I'm gonna assume it's fake until we see anything that makes it more believable.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on March 10, 2016, 07:37:09 AM
    So... I just defeated an UU (-ish) team with my PU team... in OU (http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-342474355) (didn't want to bump the Pokemon Showdown topic).
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on March 10, 2016, 09:56:25 AM
    ok what the karp that machoke was burned how did he do that
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: TheDreamingHawk on March 11, 2016, 12:10:07 PM
    FYI: The Sun/Moon leak spreading around social media with the starters and everything is fake. The Japanese is all screwy and doesn't make sense at all, and the "boxart" seems to be just a heavily edited version of the Mega Man Battle Network 6 Title screens. Be careful guys.

    That being said, they did confirm that Volcanion's distribution starts next month in JPN movie theaters, so that's when you should be able to go on a hunt for a legit Volcanion by looking for a trader

    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: E. Gadd Industries on March 12, 2016, 05:33:08 PM
    :D Finally!
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on March 13, 2016, 08:18:24 PM
    Also, we're to expect Sun and Moon info out of next month's Corocoro.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Latios212 on March 23, 2016, 09:51:17 AM
    WAUUUUGH POKÉMON RANGER IS TEN YEARS OLD
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: braix on March 23, 2016, 12:45:31 PM
    WHATTTT
    THATS LIKE EVEN OLDER THAN ME
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on March 23, 2016, 01:22:45 PM
    Black and White came out while we were still in middle school
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on March 23, 2016, 02:18:52 PM
    I was in... 11th grade when B/W came out, I think? oh god i feel old
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on March 23, 2016, 03:30:18 PM
    wtf noc so young
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on March 23, 2016, 03:36:36 PM
    I was in high school but my age group was in middle school
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: cashwarrior1 on March 23, 2016, 04:14:57 PM
    I was halfway through middle school when B/W came out.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: E. Gadd Industries on March 23, 2016, 04:56:41 PM
    ...I was in 5th grade when it came out.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on March 23, 2016, 04:57:41 PM
    young'un
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Olimar12345 on March 23, 2016, 05:46:50 PM
    you two are only 2 years apart .-.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on March 23, 2016, 05:49:46 PM
    Pretty sure it's 3 years not 2
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: cashwarrior1 on March 23, 2016, 06:04:59 PM
    Based off of your profiles, you (Noc) are 17, and E.Gadd is 15. 2 years.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on March 23, 2016, 06:21:57 PM
    I'm 18 in under a month
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Olimar12345 on March 23, 2016, 06:23:12 PM
    thats not three tho math u no
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: E. Gadd Industries on March 25, 2016, 06:10:18 AM
    I'll be 16 in August, so 2 years and approx. 3-4 months.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: TheDreamingHawk on April 01, 2016, 05:56:32 PM
    all hail our mastermind pokemon soon to be best in the main and pmd series

    (volume warning)

    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nitro Indigo on April 02, 2016, 01:16:09 AM
    Umm... what...? (And why is SnoopaVision still in the bottom-right corner?)

    Is using a Synthesia tutorial as a reference for a remix a good idea? Because chuggaaconroy's latest Platinum episode gave me inspiration...
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Ōkami~MD on April 02, 2016, 03:57:37 AM
    spewpa is definitely THE best pokemon ever
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on April 02, 2016, 06:12:41 AM
    snoopavision wasn't a prank, it's actually legit
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on April 02, 2016, 10:46:38 AM
    We're getting our Sun and Moon news tomorrow, woo!
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on April 02, 2016, 10:58:53 AM
    Uhhh can you post a link? I can't find anything about that.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Olimar12345 on April 02, 2016, 11:42:54 AM
    http://www.destructoid.com/our-first-look-at-pokemon-sun-and-moon-might-be-coming-on-april-3-351332.phtml
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on April 02, 2016, 11:47:05 AM
    Does anyone know if that show is streamed anywhere?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on April 13, 2016, 02:37:26 PM
    Quote from: SerebiiIn the movie section of CoroCoro, it has confirmed that the Mythical Pokémon, Magearna, is to be a Steel/Fairy-type Pokémon
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on April 13, 2016, 02:44:36 PM
    I was hoping for a funky showdown replay
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Olimar12345 on April 14, 2016, 06:40:51 AM
    So much for moon and sun news
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nitro Indigo on April 14, 2016, 07:53:05 AM
    Game Freak are being so sparse with Sun and Moon details that I'm already starting to wonder if this will be another Zelda U case. The said they'd reveal something on the 3rd... but all they did was show the reveal trailer on TV.

    I also want to remix something from Pokémon, but I'm not sure what. Everything I can find has either been done to death or looks complicated. I'm thinking about doing Lake from Diamond and Pearl, but the only sheet music of it I could find had notes that went way above the stave.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on April 14, 2016, 09:09:36 AM
    Quote from: Nitro Indigo on April 14, 2016, 07:53:05 AMI'm thinking about doing Lake from Diamond and Pearl, but the only sheet music of it I could find had notes that went way above the stave.

    How would that affect a remix? I'm curious lol
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nitro Indigo on April 14, 2016, 09:18:19 AM
    I'm not good at reading notes above the stave.

    I found Synthesia tutorial for Wrapped in a Light from Gates to Infinity, and it seems easy enough to make sheet music of.
    If I get Finale Notepad (better than nothing, right?), should I ask if it's okay to use the video as reference?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Zeila on April 14, 2016, 09:22:19 AM
    Quote from: Nitro Indigo on April 14, 2016, 07:53:05 AMGame Freak are being so sparse with Sun and Moon details that I'm already starting to wonder if this will be another Zelda U case. The said they'd reveal something on the 3rd... but all they did was show the reveal trailer on TV.
    I read somewhere (I'm not sure if it was from here actually) where it said that they are planning to reveal big/more news on the next issue. It seems like they said that last time though, and I could be wrong, so we'll just have to wait and see

    Quote from: Nitro Indigo on April 14, 2016, 07:53:05 AMI also want to remix something from Pokémon, but I'm not sure what. Everything I can find has either been done to death or looks complicated. I'm thinking about doing Lake from Diamond and Pearl, but the only sheet music of it I could find had notes that went way above the stave.
    If you're talking about mine, I can edit it for you by lowering it an octave (also there are parts that are raised an octave or just missing due to limitations so I can change that as well)

    Quote from: Altissimo on April 14, 2016, 09:09:36 AMHow would that affect a remix? I'm curious lol
    I'm guessing it would depend on the instrument used in the remix. Like for example, when people do air horn remixes or even temmie remixes, if the pedal is used then it sounds awful. Or if you use a flute to play the bass part for whatever reason, it would sound (even more) unnatural because a flute can't normally play that low

    Oops I got ninja'd. Well you might as well, but you should also ask if they want to be credited too, depending on how much of it you use and all. Also if you import a midi into a DAW, ledger lines shouldn't be a problem
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nitro Indigo on April 14, 2016, 09:27:33 AM
    No, someone else's, but could you please show me that Lake sheet music anyway? The one I was talking about only has the melody.

    I make my remixes by drawing notes onto the piano roll in FL Studio 12 because I can't afford a MIDI device, unless all electric keyboards in the world are compatible with it.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Latios212 on April 14, 2016, 09:32:12 AM
    Quote from: Nitro Indigo on April 14, 2016, 09:18:19 AMI'm not good at reading notes above the stave.

    I found Synthesia tutorial for Wrapped in a Light from Gates to Infinity, and it seems easy enough to make sheet music of.
    If I get Finale Notepad (better than nothing, right?), should I ask if it's okay to use the video as reference?
    His sheet's in the description.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nitro Indigo on April 14, 2016, 09:57:28 AM
    It's invalid, though.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Latios212 on April 14, 2016, 10:05:53 AM
    Oh. Oops.

    I might still be able to find the sheet on my other computer this weekend, I remember downloading it a long time ago.

    (But if you wait a few years, Bespinben will make a better version!)

    Edit: Try the channel desription (https://www.youtube.com/user/Somebodythatwritesmu/about)
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nitro Indigo on April 14, 2016, 10:11:48 AM
    The link in the description works! Now I know what my next remix will be.

    On an unrelated note...
    ...Are we just going to ignore the fact that they revealed what the Pokémon world looks like years ago?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Ōkami~MD on April 14, 2016, 11:46:46 AM
    Anyone getting the second chance Hoopa event (idk if it's in the us or not)?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Olimar12345 on April 14, 2016, 02:13:50 PM
    Quote from: Nitro Indigo on April 14, 2016, 07:53:05 AMGame Freak are being so sparse with Sun and Moon details that I'm already starting to wonder if this will be another Zelda U case. The said they'd reveal something on the 3rd... but all they did was show the reveal trailer on TV.

    They actually never said it was a moon and sun reveal thing, like at all (see the link I posted in the previous page).
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dude on April 14, 2016, 02:20:46 PM
    It sounds weird to say moon and sun.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on April 14, 2016, 02:33:08 PM
    It's like saying Blue and Red, Sapphire and Ruby, Y and X
    which is fine you know, putting the better games first
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dude on April 14, 2016, 02:44:18 PM
    Pretty sure the popular way to say it is the other way but ok
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on April 14, 2016, 02:49:54 PM
    ...that's the point I was making
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dude on April 14, 2016, 03:00:43 PM
    Still sounds weird though.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on April 14, 2016, 03:35:25 PM
    It's not that it sounds better or anything, it's just the games are always marketed with a specific one coming first for some reason or another.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BrainyLucario on April 15, 2016, 07:38:51 AM
    The commercials for the games cause this, as well. Nintendo's advertisements usually stick to a certain order, so that's basically how the community commonly orders them as well.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nitro Indigo on April 15, 2016, 02:20:18 PM
    Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on April 14, 2016, 02:33:08 PMIt's like saying Blue and Red, Sapphire and Ruby, Y and X
    which is fine you know, putting the better games first
    Those are all the versions I brought... except Red/Blue, never played those.

    If I made a remix of the DPPt lake theme, would anyone listen to it?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on April 15, 2016, 04:43:48 PM
    That should never be your motivation for creating music.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nitro Indigo on April 15, 2016, 11:47:57 PM
    The reason why I always ask people if they'll like my ideas is because once I had a Pokémon fanfic that I never got any input on no matter how many times I asked for it. I wanted to improve but I didn't know how, so eventually I cancelled it. Before I cancelled it, I made a contest to make a cover which has been going on for months because only one person so far has completed an entry. History repeats...
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Olimar12345 on April 16, 2016, 06:33:39 AM
    Tbh, that sounds like 90% of fanfics. The fact that ONE person made you a cover is pretty impressive, if they were sincere about it.

    But slow has a good point. If you want to do it, do it. Don't let other people's opinions stop you or dictate what you do. If you think that is a good idea or that it would be fun, then that should be all that really matters.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nitro Indigo on April 16, 2016, 10:12:37 AM
    I ended up abandoning my Lake remix, because some genius at Image-Line thought that not being able to reopen files in FL STudio demo was a good idea. I didn't know what to do with it, I couldn't have gone back and edited it, and I don't like leaving my laptop on for long periods of time.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on April 16, 2016, 12:46:38 PM
    yeah, Olimar's right.  If you asked me, for example, I'd always say that your fanfic is a terrible idea.  Don't let me ruin your fantasies.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nitro Indigo on April 16, 2016, 01:47:23 PM
    Eh, I know that you're not into fanfics anyway. The fanfic in question was a World of Civilized Pokémon thing trying too hard to be edgy called Eighteen Elements. Shame I stopped writing it, because the cover for it on FF.net (the contest is for the cover for FictionPad) is GORGEOUS.

    Anyhow... let's talk about the games. Should I get Pokkén when the price goes down?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BrainyLucario on April 17, 2016, 04:44:07 AM
    Yes....yes you should
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: cashwarrior1 on April 17, 2016, 06:01:19 AM
    I'm playing pokemon Y again, and I'm starting to notice some of these issues.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mMG096UqE0
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Ōkami~MD on April 17, 2016, 06:39:19 AM
    We need randomly genned rivals
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on April 17, 2016, 09:29:45 AM
    That's actually a really good idea
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Ōkami~MD on April 17, 2016, 12:10:41 PM
    Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on April 17, 2016, 09:29:45 AMThat's actually a really good idea

    so I'm not useless. I must be the messiah
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: E. Gadd Industries on April 18, 2016, 06:19:39 AM
    Quote from: BrainyLucario on April 17, 2016, 04:44:07 AMYes....yes you should
    And yet you still don't have a Wii U yourself? ???
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BrainyLucario on April 18, 2016, 06:46:22 AM
    Quote from: E. Gadd Industries on April 18, 2016, 06:19:39 AMAnd yet you still don't have a Wii U yourself? ???
    I still like the concept of the game.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nitro Indigo on April 19, 2016, 09:14:30 AM
    I've listened to the music from Pokkén, and it's great.

    I also made something recently!
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: cashwarrior1 on April 19, 2016, 12:47:07 PM
    What do you mean "We Didn't Forget!"? I'm pretty sure we did forget.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nitro Indigo on April 19, 2016, 01:31:58 PM
    Quote from: cashwarrior1 on April 19, 2016, 12:47:07 PMWhat do you mean "We Didn't Forget!"? I'm pretty sure we did forget.
    You didn't forget what?

    I've recently been thinking about having a mascot for my YouTube channel. Anyone know someone who can draw good Skitty and/or Yanma?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on April 19, 2016, 01:33:29 PM
    Quote from: Nitro Indigo on April 19, 2016, 01:31:58 PMYou didn't forget what?
    oh, dear, you've forgotten too.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: cashwarrior1 on April 19, 2016, 01:40:11 PM
    Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on April 19, 2016, 01:33:29 PMoh, dear, you've forgotten too.
    Do you even know what we forgot?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nitro Indigo on April 19, 2016, 01:40:59 PM
    Don't Ever Forget...
    (Now that I think about it, that title would be more fitting for something in GTI than EOX.)
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on April 19, 2016, 01:43:39 PM
    Quote from: cashwarrior1 on April 19, 2016, 01:40:11 PMDo you even know what we forgot?
    I... I... uh-oh.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on April 19, 2016, 04:05:47 PM
    the troubles of having a remembrall
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on April 19, 2016, 10:37:05 PM
    Game Freak just trademarked two names: Solgaleo and Lunaala. Looks like we've got our Sun & Moon legendaries.

    GET HYPE
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on April 19, 2016, 10:50:11 PM
    I feel gross trying to pronounce those names
    Why does the second one have 2 a's though
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on April 19, 2016, 11:19:54 PM
    Probably so that no one would say "loonayla"
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: JDMEK5 on April 20, 2016, 12:02:27 AM
    Quote from: Dudeman on April 19, 2016, 10:37:05 PMGame Freak just trademarked two names: Solgaleo and Lunaala. Looks like we've got our Sun & Moon legendaries.
    Honestly I really like Solgaleo. It's got a perfect ring to it for a Pokémon name.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: cashwarrior1 on April 20, 2016, 03:37:57 AM
    Keep in mind that these would be the Japanese version of the names and will most likely change in 'merica.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on April 20, 2016, 07:36:54 AM
    Quote from: cashwarrior1 on April 20, 2016, 03:37:57 AMKeep in mind that these would be the Japanese version of the names and will most likely change in 'merica.
    I'd agree if it wasn't for the fact that the trademark appears to be in both Japanese and English, and the transliterated versions of the names have L's in them. If they were straight-up Japanese, they'd be listed as Sorugareo and Runāra, respectively.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on April 20, 2016, 07:37:59 AM
    Quote from: cashwarrior1 on April 20, 2016, 03:37:57 AMKeep in mind that these would be the Japanese version of the names and will most likely change in 'merica.

    Actually, just about every single legendary Pokémon since Gen II has kept its original Japanese name.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on April 20, 2016, 07:40:05 AM
    Really? Huh, cool.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nitro Indigo on April 20, 2016, 07:53:33 AM
    Solgaleo sounds like the name of a (Viva) Piñata, but that's probably because I've been thinking about that a lot recently.

    Quote from: SlowPokemon on April 20, 2016, 07:37:59 AMActually, just about every single legendary Pokémon since Gen II has kept its original Japanese name.
    Not Uxie, Mesprit and Azelf. (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Lake_guardians)

    Speaking of Pokémon with the same name in every language, I don't understand why Yanma's name is more or less the same in every language except Korean. It means "big dragonfly" in Japanese, but to any non-Japanese speakers, it's meaningless. Its Japanese name is Yanyanma, by the way. And Yanmega is Megayanma.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on April 20, 2016, 07:57:37 AM
    Quote from: SlowPokemon on April 20, 2016, 07:37:59 AMjust about
    The Uxie, Mesprit, and Azelf trio and Tornadus, Thundurus, and Landorus trio are a few of the exceptions
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nitro Indigo on April 20, 2016, 08:00:25 AM
    Thunder, Fire and Freezer. =P
    (Now someone needs to draw Articuno as a freezer.)
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on April 20, 2016, 08:33:24 AM
    Quote from: SlowPokemon on April 20, 2016, 07:37:59 AMsince Gen II
    Gen 1 isn't famous for clever names, anyway.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nitro Indigo on April 20, 2016, 09:47:06 AM
    ^ Salamander, pond turtle.

    Apparently, the name leaks weren't even registered by any Pokémon-related companies.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on April 20, 2016, 09:57:33 AM
    Quote from: Dudeman on April 20, 2016, 08:33:24 AMGen 1 isn't famous for clever names, anyway.

    True. Even then, Mew and Mewtwo keep their Japanese names.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on April 20, 2016, 10:00:03 AM
    how is Ekans not a clever name
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nitro Indigo on April 20, 2016, 10:26:54 AM
    On Official Nintendo Magazine forums, there was a Pokémon trivia thread where people kept mentioning Ekans-being-snake-backwards over, and over, and over again, as if it was the most mind-blowing thing in the world.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Ōkami~MD on April 20, 2016, 12:03:24 PM
    not one mention of Arbok??


    (spoilerz kobra backwardz)
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on April 20, 2016, 12:32:31 PM
    same principle applies
    also the legendary birds with uno dos and tres come on
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on April 20, 2016, 12:39:20 PM
    Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on April 20, 2016, 12:32:31 PMalso the legendary birds with uno dos and tres come on
    The day I figured this out was a very good day.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BrainyLucario on April 21, 2016, 09:49:03 PM
    The last insult hurt me emotionally....I felt as if it was directed towards me even though it wasn't

    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Ōkami~MD on April 24, 2016, 08:10:30 AM
    ha!


    pupppyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on April 24, 2016, 10:46:29 AM
    Before we know it, it'll be May, and we should finally start getting Sun and Moon news!
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: cashwarrior1 on April 24, 2016, 11:44:26 AM
    I'm playing through Pokemon X and Y for the 7th time and I'm noticing way more little details that is making me enjoy the game. It's still not one of my favorites, but I like it a lot more now.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on April 24, 2016, 11:47:41 AM
    7 times? Jeez, I haven't even played it a second...
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on April 24, 2016, 11:58:45 AM
    Quote from: cashwarrior1 on April 24, 2016, 11:44:26 AMI'm playing through Pokemon X and Y for the 7th time and I'm noticing way more little details that is making me enjoy the game. It's still not one of my favorites, but I like it a lot more now.

    Same, it gets better and better the more you play it
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: cashwarrior1 on April 24, 2016, 12:23:22 PM
    I did realize a major problem with not just X and Y, but all the pokemon games (it was most present in X and Y). When your pokemon are small, it's fun to watch them grow and have challenges, but when they get bigger, less things happen and it's less challenging. Although the gyms and routes are still new and interesting, the journey becomes less appealing throughout.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BrainyLucario on April 27, 2016, 07:17:13 AM
    So pokemon shuffle added a system where you can share your friend code and help each other out. Does anyone want to share them?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: cashwarrior1 on April 27, 2016, 12:53:01 PM
    I haven't touched pokemon shuffle in like, decades.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on April 27, 2016, 01:46:27 PM
    same
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on April 27, 2016, 03:48:17 PM
    Steelix was what finally got me to wrench myself from that godforsaken game, it's nearly impossible to catch
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BrainyLucario on April 27, 2016, 06:13:18 PM
    I'm stuck on Mega Gengar.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: cashwarrior1 on April 27, 2016, 06:15:17 PM
    I stopped after my first 3DS broke, I then re-downloaded it and forgot I had it.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Ōkami~MD on April 28, 2016, 11:21:59 AM
    Quote from: cashwarrior1 on April 27, 2016, 06:15:17 PMI stopped after my first 3DS broke, I then re-downloaded it and forgot I had it.

    ech
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on April 28, 2016, 11:24:37 AM
    I don't even play Shuffle lol
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BrainyLucario on April 28, 2016, 11:51:01 AM
    Quote from: cashwarrior1 on April 27, 2016, 06:15:17 PMI stopped after my first 3DS broke, I then re-downloaded it and forgot I had it.
    They make it for mobile too. That's the one I have
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Ōkami~MD on April 28, 2016, 12:15:28 PM
    Quote from: Nebbles on April 28, 2016, 11:24:37 AMI don't even play Shuffle lol

    don't bother anymore
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: cashwarrior1 on May 01, 2016, 06:27:49 PM
    Why is it just now that I realize how good the music was in the first pokemon games? I've never played them and they already feel nostalgic O_o.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on May 01, 2016, 07:19:43 PM
    The first ones, really? imo the first ones (with a few exceptions, like Champion Battle and many of the Team Rocket-associated tracks) were kinda weak compared to later offerings.

    But I have a bias against gen1 so what do I know
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on May 01, 2016, 07:47:56 PM
    Haha yeah you do I think the first gen soundtracks are great
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on May 01, 2016, 07:53:05 PM
    I love the first gen's music, tbh
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Olimar12345 on May 01, 2016, 09:38:24 PM
    The music of gen1 was fantastic. I loved how a lot of it was more like three voice counterpoint, which is something that seems lost nowadays. Even the transition to gen2 music added a definitive "bass" voice to most tracks, being not only lower than all other voices, but incorporating an accompaniment that basically defines a homophonic texture. Just about everything after gen2 became less unique and seemed more like stereotypical soundtrack music.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on May 01, 2016, 09:42:55 PM
    Quote from: Olimar12345 on May 01, 2016, 09:38:24 PMa homophobic texture.
    You, uh, might wanna reread that. :P

    But I agree heartily. Although I think Gen 3 does more than be "stereotypical soundtrack music," I think Gen 2's soundtrack was amazing at using all three voices as both melodic and accompaniment lines at the same time.

    EDIT: ninja'd by edit oh well
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Olimar12345 on May 01, 2016, 09:43:50 PM
    Beat you to it (see the timestamps)

    Bad autocorrect!
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on May 01, 2016, 09:46:47 PM
    Quote from: Olimar12345 on May 01, 2016, 09:43:50 PMBeat you to it (see the timestamps)

    Bad autocorrect!
    Yeah, I was typing up my response as you edited it. I had a good feeling you'd notice before long but it was funny enough in context that I quoted it anyway.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Olimar12345 on May 01, 2016, 09:48:17 PM
    Quote from: Dudeman on May 01, 2016, 09:42:55 PMI think Gen 2's soundtrack was amazing at using all three voices as both melodic and accompaniment lines at the same time.

    It isn't too far from gen1, but there are major differences. Gen2 totally makes use of less melodic supporting lines, one way being what I said above by incorporating a bass line in a lower register.  Speaking of that, that was another great thing about Gen1 music: often times the bass voice was in the same register as the other two voices, which was something I thought was really cool I would love for them to try again in the future.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nitro Indigo on May 02, 2016, 12:06:06 AM
    On an unrelated note, here's something I've been thinking about for a while. A lack of Pokémon... unused music that probably would've gone into a plot-important scene... (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxpZtx-4H40) released right at the end of the 5th generation... was Gates to Infinity rushed?
    (It also has noticeably long load times [for a cartridge game], which a lot of rushed games also have, but that's probably just association fallacy. Christmas Rushed =/= Obvious Beta.)
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: cashwarrior1 on May 02, 2016, 04:18:20 AM
    Back on topic. XD
    I honestly feel that gen 1 and gen 2's music are really weird... on piano. I don't enjoy listening or looking at the songs on the piano, but in the actual games, it sounds way better.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nitro Indigo on May 02, 2016, 04:20:34 AM
    Shortly after making that post, I read a Tumblr post suggesting that GTI and Super were both developed under a time limit.

    I really like HGSS' music. They can somehow have electric guitars co-existing with relaxing instruments.

    I also watched a video about Gen 1 on Virtual Console yesterday. Why did people honestly believe they were going to be remakes...
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on May 02, 2016, 05:35:12 AM
    I still have a theory that original RSE had some cut content
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on May 02, 2016, 09:01:16 AM
    I mean the sprites for Shellos were found in the data of Ruby and Sapphire but I think that's it as far as anything Game Freak has said they cut from that game
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: JDMEK5 on May 02, 2016, 09:02:46 AM
    Quote from: Nitro Indigo on May 02, 2016, 04:20:34 AMI really like HGSS' music. They can somehow have electric guitars co-existing with relaxing instruments.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on May 02, 2016, 09:06:07 AM
    That's trashy and irrelevant
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Ōkami~MD on May 02, 2016, 09:35:12 AM
    Quote from: SlowPokemon on May 02, 2016, 09:06:07 AMThat's trashy and irrelevant

    and it aint... pokeymans
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nitro Indigo on May 02, 2016, 09:41:39 AM
    Anime Pokémon confirmed for Gen 7.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Ōkami~MD on May 02, 2016, 10:10:03 AM
    Quote from: Nitro Indigo on May 02, 2016, 09:41:39 AMAnime Pokémon confirmed for Gen 7.

    i am dying
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on May 02, 2016, 11:45:54 AM
    Quote from: SlowPokemon on May 02, 2016, 09:01:16 AMI mean the sprites for Shellos were found in the data of Ruby and Sapphire but I think that's it as far as anything Game Freak has said they cut from that game

    True! I'd forgotten about that. My theory mostly relied on in-game stuff though.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: cashwarrior1 on May 02, 2016, 06:20:40 PM
    And now I've re-discovered my love for gen 3's music... Wow, all of pokemon's music is great! I guess you can't love one over another, you have to love them all!!!!!
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on May 02, 2016, 09:06:05 PM
    meh
    first and third gen is miles better than the others and fourth and sixth gen are still way better than second
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on May 02, 2016, 09:10:39 PM
    I actually really like gen 2's music. I can't explain it, but there's something about it I really like.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: cashwarrior1 on May 03, 2016, 04:24:52 AM
    When I listen to gen 1 and gen 2's music I think "Wow, this is really good!" Then I listen to gen 3's and I think "This is defiantly the best!" Then I listen to gen 5's and I think "No, this is my favorite... I CAN'T DECIDED!!!!!!" And this happens everytime I listen to pokemon music.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nitro Indigo on May 03, 2016, 07:44:43 AM
    Theory time!
    Quote from: Corphish's Ruby PokéDex entryCorphish were originally foreign Pokémon that were imported as pets. They eventually turned up in the wild. This Pokémon is very hardy and has greatly increased its population.
    My theory is that they were once Shellos in Hoenn, but they went locally extinct due to competition with Corphish.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: K-NiGhT on May 03, 2016, 08:06:40 AM
    I think you're reading too much into it
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nitro Indigo on May 03, 2016, 08:29:10 AM
    If you think that theory was out-there, you should watch any Pokémon theory video on YouTube.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on May 03, 2016, 08:38:08 AM
    But you're still reading into it too much. :P
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nitro Indigo on May 03, 2016, 08:46:08 AM
    But theorizing is fun...
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on May 03, 2016, 09:40:06 AM
    IT'S NOT A THEORY
    WHERE'S YOUR DATA
    WHERE'S YOUR TESTING
    WHERE'S YOUR HYPOTHESIS
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nitro Indigo on May 03, 2016, 10:17:43 AM
    WHERE'S MY CLICKBAIT.

    (...Is it bad that I sort of like Game Theory? The "Pokémon world is Earth" theory on JWittz's channel was a bit out-there and unexplained, though.)

    I have half-baked ideas for a fanfic where humans entered the Pokémon world through Hoopa's rings, and is full of my headcanons, but I don't know what to do with it. I've lost interest in writing in the past few months. DX
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on May 03, 2016, 11:18:22 AM
    I generally dislike theories because they're overblown and way too out there. Very few theories I've read actually are believable.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nitro Indigo on May 03, 2016, 11:24:19 AM
    Not Pokémon, but ever heard of Vortexy? Her Zelda theories are pretty good.

    I dislike it when people make speculation videos where they act like they're reporting facts... DX
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: cashwarrior1 on May 03, 2016, 12:46:59 PM
    Quote from: Nitro Indigo on May 03, 2016, 11:24:19 AMI dislike it when people make speculation videos where they act like they're reporting facts... DX
    Same, especially when they say something in the title of the video and do not talk about it at all in the video.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nitro Indigo on May 03, 2016, 12:49:46 PM
    Recently, Bird Keeper Toby made a video where he "explained" the crystals in the Japanese logos for Sun and Moon (with someone else - seriously, has he ever made a non-collab video?), and Verlisfy was freaking out when he made his Ho-oh and Lugia mascot and Orange Islands theory videos like he just read The Pokémon Company's Twitter.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on May 03, 2016, 12:52:06 PM
    you say all these names that mean nothing to me
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nitro Indigo on May 03, 2016, 02:08:36 PM
    They're both PokéTubers.

    I want to make a video about a main series Pokémon game, but I don't know what. BW2 being underappreciated, maybe? Should I call my theoretical review-ish show Indigo Rambles or The Underdogs? Because most of the videos I have ideas for are games I think are overhated or unfairly forgotten, but I also have ideas for discussing how the plots of some things make no sense.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: TheDreamingHawk on May 03, 2016, 03:00:08 PM
    Quote from: Nitro Indigo on May 03, 2016, 02:08:36 PMThey're both PokéTubers.

    I want to make a video about a main series Pokémon game, but I don't know what. BW2 being underappreciated, maybe?

    Perhaps explaining why Pokemon Gen VI should be seen as a dark age as we look back on it years from now, using BW2 as an example of Pokemon practically showing its full potential only to get scaled back due to this stupid notion that "We must make our game absolutely 100% accessible to EVERYONE!".

    I swear, if Sun and Moon don't offer a challenge at all like any of the Gen I-V games, I'm done with the main series. Sheep would eat it up anyway so unless we have more people like Tamashiihiroka willing to fight for what's right it will only get worse. Therefore I fully support you making a video on BW2. By far those were the best new Pokemon Games since GS (HGSS were remakes so they don't completely count), and it practically had everything you could ask for, yet folks ignored it, because this was still in the era when Genwunners were very loud and because folks threw fits that it wasn't on the Nintendo 3DS (despite getting enhanced features which IMO still made it worth playing on the 3DS while also giving folks with a crusty old 2004 DS an excellent RPG). More people need to know about the greatness BW2 gave to the series before it was taken away, and I'll be happy to see more and more people raise their voices on the subject. I plan to as well when my Pokemon MD retrospective wraps up.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: cashwarrior1 on May 03, 2016, 03:15:49 PM
    BW2 are my most favorite to play. The post game was awesome! I would speak up but, ya know, I can't youtube.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on May 03, 2016, 06:01:20 PM
    my main issue with gen 5 is that instead of being accessible to everyone they are INaccessible now

    like they kept pushing C-Gear! GTS! Dream World! Online communications god damn it! and now, I can't use any of that. It's all worthless to me and it really pulls me out of my enjoyment of the game to like have to listen to the C-Gear spiel another damn time when I can't use it. Like, they didn't think about the longevity of gen 5 at all.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on May 03, 2016, 07:00:45 PM
    Quote from: Altissimo on May 03, 2016, 06:01:20 PMmy main issue with gen 5 is that instead of being accessible to everyone they are INaccessible now

    like they kept pushing C-Gear! GTS! Dream World! Online communications god damn it! and now, I can't use any of that. It's all worthless to me and it really pulls me out of my enjoyment of the game to like have to listen to the C-Gear spiel another damn time when I can't use it. Like, they didn't think about the longevity of gen 5 at all.
    Yeah, that's kind of disappointing; just when I was starting to get really successful in the Dream World, they announce that they're closing it...
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: TheDreamingHawk on May 03, 2016, 07:28:11 PM
    Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on May 03, 2016, 07:00:45 PMYeah, that's kind of disappointing; just when I was starting to get really successful in the Dream World, they announce that they're closing it...

    Don't forget the delay in the Americas for what happened overseas when BW1 launched. I'm just glad I bought the game a bit later after launch and didn't have to struggle with pointless waiting.

    (Yes, I'm fully aware of the tragedy that happened in Japan during BW1's NA launch. Still doesn't mean they couldn't have moved forward with a NA/EU launch though. Or made it open worldwide but with the funds from the advertising and whatnot go to the charity to rebuild)
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nitro Indigo on May 03, 2016, 11:08:23 PM
    BW2 were released so late into the DS' lifespan that they just felt kind of... there. Which is a shame, because Aspertia City music.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: E. Gadd Industries on May 04, 2016, 07:42:02 AM
    Am I the only one that enjoys Sinnoh music? Eterna Forest is GREAT!

    Also, I want to know others' thoughts: what about a main series on a home console? I've thought about it before, but I'm not sure how I would feel if Nintendo were to be like "Well, Pokémon Sun & Moon are going to be released on the Wii U."
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on May 04, 2016, 07:45:28 AM
    yes. you're the only one who likes an entire generation of music in pokémon, one of the best selling franchises of all time. congratulations.

    actually "am I the only one who X" is one of my pet peeves. But it's okay.

    To answer your question, main series Pokémon games belong on handhelds. That's my opinion. The entire point is to have them in your pocket, it's even in the name. And trading with friends is one of the reasons to carry around your 3DS.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on May 04, 2016, 07:46:59 AM
    I never finished Colosseum bc it was on console so no
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nitro Indigo on May 04, 2016, 07:47:20 AM
    I saw someone on Zelda Universe complain that there wasn't a main series Pokémon game on the Wii U. In an interview in Official Nintendo Magazine a few years ago, someone from Game Freak said that the reason main Pokémon games are on handhelds is so your Pokémon can always be with you.

    As for Sinnoh's music... even when I was a kid, I found most of DP's music lacklustre. And then I heard this.

    Is it just me, or have they been throwing legendaries around a lot recently? ORAS, PSMD and the Hoopa movie all seem to be marketed as "LEGENDARIES ARE COOL, BUY OUR STUFF!".
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: E. Gadd Industries on May 04, 2016, 07:50:00 AM
    20th Anniversary.
    And the whole trading thing was my thought for why it shouldn't be, but I didn't think about the whole "Pocket" aspect.
    (And sorry, Slow :P )
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: JDMEK5 on May 04, 2016, 07:52:28 AM
    Quote from: Nitro Indigo on May 04, 2016, 07:47:20 AMIs it just me, or have they been throwing legendaries around a lot recently? ORAS, PSMD and the Hoopa movie all seem to be marketed as "LEGENDARIES ARE COOL, BUY OUR STUFF!".
    Quote from: E. Gadd Industries on May 04, 2016, 07:50:00 AM20th Anniversary.
    Nope. (With the exception of the large number of legendary events taking place this year) Here's the correct answer:
    The Pokémon movies are always purposed to showcase one or two legendaries. They're the focus of the plot and often are even named in the title. I don't know about PSMD, but the deal with all the legendaries being obtainable in ORAS has to do with the icon that ends up on the Pokédex entry of obtained Pokémon in X/Y/OR/AS. Either it's a pokeball icon or a Kalos icon. The Pokeball icon means the only Pokemon that registered in the pokedex was obtained originally through earlier generations. That is, it wasn't originally caught in X/Y/OR/AS. A "complete" pokedex has all pokemon registered obtained with the Kalos icon, which is obtained through registering a pokemon native to one of the 3DS games. Thus, catching legends in OR/AS results in the complete Kalos icon, where any other (non-cheating) method would result in the "incomplete" pokeball icon. This is also why they're redoing all events for legendary pokemon this year. It's the only way to "complete" the pokedex.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nitro Indigo on May 04, 2016, 07:55:01 AM
    PSMD was marketed as having legendaries in it, and some people have said that the plot focused too much on "legendaries are cool" rather than the consequences of the disasters.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on May 04, 2016, 07:57:24 AM
    ^it definitely felt exactly like that

    "Oh the plot's not interesting enough? How about we have seventeen more legendaries show up"
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nitro Indigo on May 04, 2016, 08:00:35 AM
    While PMD1's plot wasn't the greatest, at least they didn't throw legendaries into EVERYTHING. If it'd been made today, Ninetales probably wouldn't be a Ninetales. It's like the writers see legendaries as gimmicks. (http://www.springhole.net/writing/whydragonstoriessuck.htm)
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on May 04, 2016, 08:03:06 AM
    Xerneas and Yveltal were very much a part of the plot in PSMD though I can't speak for like, the legendary beasts or anything

    one thing about PMD1 is that there were a shitton fewer legendaries ahaha
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on May 04, 2016, 08:42:51 AM
    I really, really didn't care for the plot of Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon at all. I didn't care about any of the characters. And I really, really wanted to--my partner was a cute little Froakie, after all! But at the end, he was the only one who really mattered to me

    Spoiler
    and even HE turned out to be a legendary.
    [close]

    Though the gameplay of all of the Mystery Dungeons is roughly the same, I think the others were more successful simply because of the sheer power of the writing--though it's all like a dorky after school action special, PSMD went too hard on "action" and forgot "special."

    I mean, come ON. Has anyone felt so moved in any game as when you and your partner in Explorers have to fight your way back from the future after being betrayed? Things look absolutely hopeless, but you two do your best to stay positive because you've been through so much and accomplished so much already. And in Rescue Team, how about when you're being forced to leave town because no one believes you, and your partner comes with you? Your partner sacrifices their home and everything else they hold dear because they believe in you so much that they would literally climb into an active volcano for you. How about the partner in Gates to Infinity, keeping everyone positive and giving everyone encouragement not to give in to despair? It's things like these that made the first few games something more than a boring dungeon-crawler.

    What's the equivalent in PSMD? The part where
    Spoiler
    you all get turned into stone? With the ragtag group you met literally a couple chapters ago? Why do I care about them? I definitely didn't, but the game was acting like I should. Then they disappear and lazily get saved at the end for no real reason? It definitely didn't work for me. Where's that raw element of friendship that made all the tedious dungeon-crawling so worthwhile? I ended up giving up trying to rescue my partner post game because I literally didn't care about him enough to do the necessary grinding to make it through the dungeons.
    [close]
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nitro Indigo on May 04, 2016, 08:46:43 AM
    In particular, the part where
    Spoiler
    the partner says Mew erased Protagonist's memories makes no sense because it renders the earlier scene with Nuzleaf in the undersea ruins completely pointless.
    [close]
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on May 04, 2016, 08:59:03 AM
    Yeah it wasn't my favorite. Loved the music though lmao
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on May 04, 2016, 10:06:34 AM
    it made plenty of sense.  Nuzleaf thought that the beheeyem had made Mudkip lose his memories
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nitro Indigo on May 04, 2016, 10:11:34 AM
    I also remembered that the main selling point of PSMD was that it has 720 Pokémon in it. Um...
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BrainyLucario on May 04, 2016, 10:27:43 AM
    I liked PMD: EoS ending the most. It threw a lot of plot twists in and  made it difficult to separate the fact from the fiction.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: braix on May 04, 2016, 10:31:49 AM
    PSMD was great cuz I could be a Fennekin adventuring with Bespinben.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Ōkami~MD on May 04, 2016, 12:00:42 PM
    Quote from: BrainyLucario on May 04, 2016, 10:27:43 AMI liked PMD: EoS ending the most. It threw a lot of plot twists in and  made it difficult to separate the fact from the fiction.

    I have spent ages thinking of continuations of this story with my team bcause there are so many characters that don't actually 'disappear' like the lake trio and dialga and stuff so you don't feel so bad when writing a fanfic because you aren't ruining someone elses idea off the game
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on May 10, 2016, 05:23:51 AM
    (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CiGC9KVVAAIfOy6.jpg)

    Quote from: SerebiiThe first details for Pokémon Sun & Moon have been revealed. These details come via the first footage of the game which showcases some new Pokémon including the starters and the legends. It will be released on November 18th 2016 in the US and Japan and November 23rd in Europe. The game takes place in the Alola Region and th three starters are the Grass/Flying Rowlet, the Fire-type Litten and the Water-type Popplio. The Japanese trailer also confirms that you can alter your skin pigment in the game, just like X & Y. Keep checking back as we get more details.
    Edit @ 13:19: New details have come via the official site. Rowlet knows a new move called Leafage

    WOO.

    Starters
    (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CiGB-52XIAIBQLT.jpg)
    Rowlet.

    (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CiGCCQIXIAErhbi.jpg)
    Litten.

    (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CiGCGA6WwAA0Yr4.jpg)
    Popplio.
    [close]
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Olimar12345 on May 10, 2016, 05:38:23 AM
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: TheDreamingHawk on May 10, 2016, 05:43:30 AM
    Oh joy, more of the same artstyle, visuals and battle system. Barely feels like a new generation. I have a bad feeling the dark age will continue with the casual-focused main story/post game that we've had since Gen VI. God damn you game freak, the first trailer gave me a glimmer of hope showing the series throughout the years. I could mention the glaring issues right away, from the ugly starters, hideous Sun legendary to the reuse of the same artstyle, but I think the puny region takes the cake for me.

     Seems like I'll be defending my first amendment rights of daring to say something different than "bestest game evar 100/10" for the next few months...
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: WaluigiTime64 on May 10, 2016, 06:03:54 AM
    Rowlet better be a sweeper otherwise it's screwed. Either way I'm picking Popplio.

    Right, actual gameplay.
    From what this shows, it's BEAUTIFUL. I also like how the overworld sprites aren't chibi, which just makes it feel better in the realistic landscape. The protagonists seem rather bland for the most part, but at least the legendaries are decent-looking. I think the starters are ok, but not that great. I just feel really sorry for Rowlet because of it's typing (and it gets insulted for its design). Sadly the water-type yet again ends up being my favourite, with there not being much to say about Litten.

    Still can't wait for the game's release. I'm choosing Sun.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on May 10, 2016, 06:49:20 AM
    Quote from: WaluigiTime64 on May 10, 2016, 06:03:54 AMRowlet better be a sweeper otherwise it's screwed. Either way I'm picking Popplio.
    Give it (rather, its final stage) at least 120 base speed, Harvest as a hidden ability (a bit of a stretch, but renewable Yache Berry would be nice), and it could be decent. Likewise, though, I think Popplio is my favorite so far- there isn't really a starter design that I dislike, although Litten looks more like an early-route Pokemon- but I'll wait to see their evolutions before I make a final decision.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Bespinben on May 10, 2016, 07:08:44 AM
    I'll wait for the spin-off games to be impressed.

    I'm hoping the starters' evolutions will resolve the ugly duckling phase.

    Kudos to Pokemon Co. for not having any leaks whatsoever prior to this.

    Needs moar dargons.



    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: E. Gadd Industries on May 10, 2016, 07:11:42 AM
    YES!!! ROWLET IS GRASS/FLYING!! THIS IS GREAT!! :D
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: WaluigiTime64 on May 10, 2016, 07:14:48 AM
    I need elaboration on why Grass Flying is good. I'm pretty sure it's a terrible type.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on May 10, 2016, 07:17:48 AM
    Oh competitively it's terrible. But it's definitely unique as a starter type at least.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nitro Indigo on May 10, 2016, 07:36:06 AM
    Cue endless "Fire starters are based on Chinese zodiac!" statements again...
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on May 10, 2016, 09:05:06 AM
    Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on May 10, 2016, 05:43:30 AMSeems like I'll be defending my first amendment rights of daring to say something different than "bestest game evar 100/10" for the next few months...

    Yeah probably :x Because:

    Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on May 10, 2016, 05:43:30 AMI could mention the glaring issues right away, from the ugly starters, hideous Sun legendary to the reuse of the same artstyle

    (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwp.production.patheos.com%2Fblogs%2Fmonkeymind%2Ffiles%2F2015%2F08%2FThats_just_your_opinion.jpg&hash=9a5e311bebd8a3ac8357195d12edb6a582c8b42e)
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dude on May 10, 2016, 09:11:54 AM
    Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on May 10, 2016, 05:43:30 AMOh joy, more of the same artstyle, visuals and battle system. Barely feels like a new generation. I have a bad feeling the dark age will continue with the casual-focused main story/post game that we've had since Gen VI. God damn you game freak, the first trailer gave me a glimmer of hope showing the series throughout the years. I could mention the glaring issues right away, from the ugly starters, hideous Sun legendary to the reuse of the same artstyle, but I think the puny region takes the cake for me.

     Seems like I'll be defending my first amendment rights of daring to say something different than "bestest game evar 100/10" for the next few months...
    https://youtu.be/yJxCdh1Ps48
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on May 10, 2016, 09:21:49 AM
    Quote from: Bespinben on May 10, 2016, 07:08:44 AMNeeds moar dargons.
    Popplio totally turns into a dragon.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: braix on May 10, 2016, 09:23:59 AM
    Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on May 10, 2016, 05:43:30 AMOh joy, more of the same artstyle, visuals and battle system. Barely feels like a new generation. I have a bad feeling the dark age will continue with the casual-focused main story/post game that we've had since Gen VI. God damn you game freak, the first trailer gave me a glimmer of hope showing the series throughout the years. I could mention the glaring issues right away, from the ugly starters, hideous Sun legendary to the reuse of the same artstyle, but I think the puny region takes the cake for me.

     Seems like I'll be defending my first amendment rights of daring to say something different than "bestest game evar 100/10" for the next few months...
    (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fuploads.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F20160510%2F12b1de46015db5c662c403c1c42960da.jpg&hash=f77ee72c33e8377a8dbbee07ba2646ad9f7bc8dc)
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nitro Indigo on May 10, 2016, 09:47:54 AM
    I personally think it's too early to judge Sun and Moon.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dude on May 10, 2016, 09:50:06 AM
    is that an original thought or did you read a guide on when to judge video games
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Ruto on May 10, 2016, 09:57:08 AM
    Quote from: Dude on May 10, 2016, 09:50:06 AMis that an original thought or did you read a guide on when to judge video games

    ;)

    I can't be the only one who likes the sun legendary? The moon is cool but the sun one is really something imo (in your face)

    There should be a pokemon game that takes place in the past so we can have all these viking dragon pokemon or something haha but the handheld can't possibly handle that.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on May 10, 2016, 10:04:04 AM
    Quote from: Dude on May 10, 2016, 09:50:06 AMis that an original thought or did you read a guide on when to judge video games

    I laughed so hard

    Also yeah @ haters please take a chill pill
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nitro Indigo on May 10, 2016, 10:14:07 AM
    We still don't know much about these games. At least we have something substantial now...
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on May 10, 2016, 10:37:39 AM
    Pokemon sure has come a long way from the top down perspective that we all know and love
    sun lion looks pretty cool and I can't tell what the moon thing is
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Ōkami~MD on May 10, 2016, 11:28:35 AM
    nnnnooooooooooo! my competitive team will be made redundant!

    must... delay.... sun moon....  whatever.... cost

    or just use action replay weheheheheheheheh
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: cashwarrior1 on May 10, 2016, 01:05:10 PM
    All I can think of is how horrifyingly accurate that fake leak of the grass starter was to the actual thing. Same exact color palate, almost same face, and the same kind of animal!
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on May 10, 2016, 01:10:02 PM
    Quote from: cashwarrior1 on May 10, 2016, 01:05:10 PMthat fake leak
    *implies there was only one*

    Spoiler
    Rowlet is too cute and I can't even. I can't help but feel that Popplio is going to turn out to be the most awesome-looking of all the starters, though. Who wants a fully-grown clown seal as a final evolution? I'm getting flashbacks of everyone dismissing Froakie when it was first revealed.
    [close]
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on May 10, 2016, 01:22:20 PM
    the freaking bird can die
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Ōkami~MD on May 10, 2016, 01:24:10 PM
    :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :O :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :O :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :O :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :O :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :O :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :O :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :O :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :O :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :O :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :O :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :O :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :O :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :O

    you have shocked the divine audience into a coma
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on May 10, 2016, 02:09:25 PM
    TEAM ROWLET FOR LIFE
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on May 10, 2016, 02:10:17 PM
    I hope the spheal redux can learn ice type moves
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on May 10, 2016, 02:11:34 PM
    Quote from: Dudeman on April 19, 2016, 10:37:05 PMSolgaleo and Lunaala
    Yooooooo I almost forgot we got those trademarked legendary-esque names three weeks ago, and the sun-based one has Leo in it. Huzzah! Names confirmed!
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: cashwarrior1 on May 10, 2016, 02:25:07 PM
    I'm probably going to pick Litten.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on May 10, 2016, 02:32:28 PM
    Quote from: Dudeman on May 10, 2016, 02:11:34 PMYooooooo I almost forgot we got those trademarked legendary-esque names three weeks ago, and the sun-based one has Leo in it. Huzzah! Names confirmed!
    would rather gargle nails than say those names out loud
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: InsigTurtle on May 10, 2016, 03:26:56 PM
    because of the internet, i saw r34 of the new starters before i saw the official announcement

    i can't help being in awe of the speed at which those people draw
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dude on May 10, 2016, 04:10:44 PM
    Speaking of r34, I need that assistant professor guy.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: E. Gadd Industries on May 11, 2016, 04:42:51 AM
    Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on May 10, 2016, 10:37:39 AMPokemon sure has come a long way from the top down perspective that we all know and love
    sun lion looks pretty cool and I can't tell what the moon thing is
    I'm pretty sure it's a dragon bat.
    And I wasn't talking about competitively; you see, I like to focus on uniqueness; I don't battle as much as most people.

    But anyhoo, I really need tickets to this:
    Spoiler
    (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fassets.pokemon.com%2Fassets%2Fcms2%2Fimg%2Fmisc%2F_tiles%2Fpokemon-symphony-169.jpg&hash=5dc43333e99914254c246869ade2e8a467356116)
    [close]
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on May 11, 2016, 10:15:25 AM
    Quote from: E. Gadd Industries on May 11, 2016, 04:42:51 AMI'm pretty sure it's a dragon bat.
    Personally, I'm hoping it's a Dark/Fairy type with Levitate (gotta get those immunities in!).
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on May 11, 2016, 10:23:19 AM
    Woah. Dark/Fairy. Now there's an idea. I've also heard thoughts on it being an Ice-type, to both contrast against Solgaleo probably being Fire-type and sort of represent the Moon. But since I just remembered that Moonblast is the most powerful Fairy-type move right now (excluding Light of Ruin), I don't think Fairy is out of the question.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BrainyLucario on May 11, 2016, 10:27:31 AM
    Is there even a fairy legendary?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on May 11, 2016, 10:31:37 AM
    ...Xerneas...
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BrainyLucario on May 11, 2016, 10:35:12 AM
    Quote from: Dudeman on May 11, 2016, 10:31:37 AM...Xerneas...
    I haven't played X or Y yet. I still don't know a lot of the gen 6 pokemon...
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on May 11, 2016, 10:36:07 AM
    In that case:
    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Fairy-type+legendary
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BrainyLucario on May 11, 2016, 10:39:00 AM
    Ughh.. I wasted so much time learning every single pokemon's types and now I have to re-learn them all. This is just great...
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on May 11, 2016, 11:07:57 AM
    Quote from: Dudeman on May 11, 2016, 10:23:19 AM(excluding Light of Ruin)
    I wonder when that event is going to show up...
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Olimar12345 on May 11, 2016, 11:08:27 AM
    Quote from: BrainyLucario on May 11, 2016, 10:39:00 AMUghh.. I wasted so much time learning every single pokemon's types and now I have to re-learn them all. This is just great...

    I mean, this isn't news lol.

    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BrainyLucario on May 11, 2016, 11:18:17 AM
    Quote from: Olimar12345 on May 11, 2016, 11:08:27 AMI mean, this isn't news lol.
    I know. I just haven't bothered to relearn them. so when I think of Fairy-type, Azumarill doesn't come to mind. I keep thinking of Azumarill as just Water-type.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on May 11, 2016, 11:24:09 AM
    I figured Dark or Fairy because as Dudeman hinted at, all moon-based moves were made Fairy-type in XY, including Moonlight whose typing is irrelevant, as well as Clefairy's line which is said to come from the moon.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on May 11, 2016, 12:18:27 PM
    crap now I might have to get sun cause the legendary in moon sucks
    but I'm contractually obligated to get moon
    what do
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: braix on May 11, 2016, 12:38:56 PM
    Wynaut both?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on May 11, 2016, 12:44:51 PM
    money
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on May 11, 2016, 12:51:16 PM
    What's wrong with Lunaala? It looks stupid™?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: cashwarrior1 on May 11, 2016, 01:13:39 PM
    Quote from: Dudeman on May 11, 2016, 12:51:16 PMWhat's wrong with Lunaala? It looks stupid™?
    Yes it does. But that doesn't mean it's not awesome!
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Hero of Trains on May 11, 2016, 02:19:13 PM
    I personally like both. I also have my qualms with both, seeing as how Sun's legendary will always be overshadowed by Entei, the best most amazing fire dog thing ever to be in Pokemon. The Moon legendary may seem weird at first, but it is literally a less colorful version of Marx from Kirby Super Star (as I've said before) which automatically makes it beautiful and I might be getting Moon just so I can name mine Marx. I promise I'm not a communist
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on May 11, 2016, 02:27:18 PM
    I'm here thinking Moon Bat is one of my favorite legendary designs I've ever seen.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on May 11, 2016, 02:32:46 PM
    I can't even really tell what it is
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on May 11, 2016, 02:33:11 PM
    It's a big, beautiful moon bat and I want 50 of them.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on May 11, 2016, 03:06:00 PM
    Quote from: Hero of Trains on May 11, 2016, 02:19:13 PMI promise I'm not a communist
    Just don't name your starter Lenin and you'll be fine.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on May 11, 2016, 03:38:54 PM
    Rowlenin
    Lenitten
    Poppleninio
    Solgalenin
    Leninaala
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on May 11, 2016, 08:39:31 PM
    Ah ha! You fell for it! Now we know that you are a communist!
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on May 11, 2016, 08:44:20 PM
    Проклятия! Я был обнаружен!

    wait wait I mean um


    MURICA
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Ōkami~MD on May 12, 2016, 08:49:27 AM
    Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on May 11, 2016, 08:39:31 PMAh ha! You fell for it! Now we know that you are a communist!

    :ooooooooooooo

    wait i thought this was a communist thread?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: E. Gadd Industries on May 12, 2016, 05:27:35 PM
    It was!
    ...
    ._. Ignore that.
    I want the moon bat, regardless of type! :P
    Also, bear in mind that Brainy doesn't have anything past Wii and a (correct me if I'm wrong) DSi.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on May 12, 2016, 05:30:22 PM
    But he does have the internet. I didn't have a DS when Black/White were coming out, let alone plans to get it. But I actively followed the information leading up to its release and the new Pokémon that were revealed. It's hard to passively live in a vacuum anymore.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on May 12, 2016, 05:47:38 PM
    Quote from: Dudeman on May 12, 2016, 05:30:22 PMIt's hard to passively live in a vacuum anymore.
    false
    I know nothing
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on May 12, 2016, 07:21:15 PM
    Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on May 12, 2016, 05:47:38 PMI know nothing
    Well, I can't really debate that. :P
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Ōkami~MD on May 13, 2016, 09:51:06 AM
    Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on May 12, 2016, 05:47:38 PMI know nothing

    is this a ploy to prevent us from knowing he is a spy from the anti capital letters group???
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on May 13, 2016, 09:51:49 AM
    A group you are apparently a part of.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on May 13, 2016, 10:51:05 AM
    Quote from: Dudeman on May 13, 2016, 09:51:49 AMA group you are apparently a part of.
    ^this I noticed that too
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Ōkami~MD on May 13, 2016, 11:44:05 AM
    Quote from: Ōkami~MD on May 13, 2016, 09:51:06 AMis this a ploy to prevent us from knowing he is a spy from the anti capital letters group???

    why yes i am good sir would u like tea with that?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: cashwarrior1 on May 13, 2016, 03:33:06 PM
    No.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Olimar12345 on May 13, 2016, 05:06:44 PM
    Did anyone pick up the free Darkrai from GS this month?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on May 13, 2016, 05:23:19 PM
    Yup.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Olimar12345 on May 13, 2016, 05:39:55 PM
    the guy at GS gave me two so someone pm me if you want one.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on May 13, 2016, 06:14:45 PM
    not yet but i gonna
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: E. Gadd Industries on May 14, 2016, 11:53:33 AM
    I got two as well, but one is for Brainy.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Ōkami~MD on May 14, 2016, 12:24:58 PM
    gon do it next sunday :)

    anyone get the second-chance hoopa?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: E. Gadd Industries on May 14, 2016, 12:31:14 PM
    Wait, when?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Ōkami~MD on May 16, 2016, 01:02:43 PM
    are you a european? it was in april for europeans
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: E. Gadd Industries on May 16, 2016, 04:49:44 PM
    No, I'm American.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Ōkami~MD on May 17, 2016, 09:37:27 AM
    oh right! sorry... yeah, I'm british
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: JDMEK5 on May 21, 2016, 01:27:52 AM
    You guys all grabbed your shiny Kalos legends, right?

    http://xy10.pokemontcgxy.com/en-us/legendary.php
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on May 21, 2016, 09:33:20 AM
    Hell yeah I did! Also, notice that if you register for the Johto Classic tournament this week and participate in at least three battles when the competition starts, you'll get Whitney's Miltank.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: JDMEK5 on May 21, 2016, 09:44:52 AM
    Quote from: SlowPokemon on May 21, 2016, 09:33:20 AMHell yeah I did! Also, notice that if you register for the Johto Classic tournament this week and participate in at least three battles when the competition starts, you'll get Whitney's Miltank.
    Why would I want the bane of my childhood?

    Also, incidentally, would you have an extra shiny Xerneas? I kinda sorta missed it XD
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on May 21, 2016, 09:59:59 AM
    The important question: Are all four of the Miltank's moves Rollout?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Latios212 on May 21, 2016, 10:23:19 AM
    Quote from: JDMEK5 on May 21, 2016, 09:44:52 AMAlso, incidentally, would you have an extra shiny Xerneas? I kinda sorta missed it XD
    If I can be bothered to actually pick one up from the Pokémon Center then sure :P
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on May 21, 2016, 11:24:31 AM
    Quote from: JDMEK5 on May 21, 2016, 09:44:52 AMAlso, incidentally, would you have an extra shiny Xerneas? I kinda sorta missed it XD
    Me too, sadly.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: JDMEK5 on May 21, 2016, 11:39:53 AM
    Quote from: Latios212 on May 21, 2016, 10:23:19 AMIf I can be bothered to actually pick one up from the Pokémon Center then sure :P
    Please? I'll be your best friend :P
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Latios212 on May 21, 2016, 12:01:24 PM
    Quote from: JDMEK5 on May 21, 2016, 11:39:53 AMPlease? I'll be your best friend :P
    I should have it ready tonight. Skype me later~

    Quote from: Dudeman on May 21, 2016, 11:24:31 AMMe too, sadly.
    wat no I only have 4 including my brother's
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on May 21, 2016, 12:09:06 PM
    Quote from: Latios212 on May 21, 2016, 12:01:24 PMwat no I only have 4 including my brother's
    Oh, I was just voicing my woes. Don't bother considering me if you're gonna run out of stock. :P
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: JDMEK5 on May 21, 2016, 02:08:53 PM
    Quote from: Latios212 on May 21, 2016, 12:01:24 PMI should have it ready tonight. Skype me later~
    Did I ever tell you you're the best? XD Anyways, thanks. We should have like a Black Market Pokémon Topic for things like these.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nitro Indigo on May 22, 2016, 12:34:28 PM
    I just remembered that according to the Pokédex, Ninetales lives for a thousand years, and now I'm imagining a Ninetales in Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: E. Gadd Industries on May 25, 2016, 04:59:39 AM
    Quote from: JDMEK5 on May 21, 2016, 01:27:52 AMYou guys all grabbed your shiny Kalos legends, right?

    http://xy10.pokemontcgxy.com/en-us/legendary.php
    I still have yet to get Shiny Yveltal, even though I already have one from elsewhere.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: E. Gadd Industries on May 27, 2016, 02:56:53 PM
    Pardon the double post, but :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
    http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-news/participate-in-the-pokemon-go-field-test/
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: TheDreamingHawk on May 31, 2016, 02:10:52 PM
    Quote from: E. Gadd Industries on May 27, 2016, 02:56:53 PMPardon the double post, but :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
    http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-news/participate-in-the-pokemon-go-field-test/

    I'm still iffy on that. Even more so than Sun/Moon. Early reports from the JPN/AUS field tests are not good at all, only recently did said feedback get used to make the game a bit better than it was before. Definitely a long ways from launch before it shows its true potential.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on May 31, 2016, 02:56:22 PM
    "even more so than sun and moon" as if any of your reasons for being dismissive of sun and moon are legitimate
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on May 31, 2016, 03:20:42 PM
    it's 2016 you don't need a reason to dismiss pokemon
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on May 31, 2016, 03:34:38 PM
    Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on May 31, 2016, 03:20:42 PMit's 2016 you don't need a reason to dismiss pokemon

    you know this is fair point, pokemon either sucks or it doesnt
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: TheDreamingHawk on June 01, 2016, 10:22:38 AM
    Quote from: SlowPokemon on May 31, 2016, 02:56:22 PM"even more so than sun and moon" as if any of your reasons for being dismissive of sun and moon are legitimate

    Honest opinions, no matter how brutal they may come across are definitely legitimate. I'll hold onto my caution until I play the games for myself or if tomorrow's trailer gets me excited (Though I have a very likely feeling it'll just be legendary names and moves with not much else). If I honestly feel that the $40 won't be worth it on the day of release, i'll just spend it towards another title like Ys VIII instead. My comment regarding GO though was in regards to the general negative reception from the earlier tests, where even the folks who defend pokemon to the death felt it was little to do with the initial trailer or Pokemon in general. It seems to be getting better, but I think people have every right to be cautious. This IS the 20th anniversary year after all, and they can't screw things up or else the brand will be damaged very badly.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on June 01, 2016, 10:33:19 AM
    i dont think nintendo/game freak is capable of alienating all their pokemon fans no matter how badly they fuck up
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: TheDreamingHawk on June 01, 2016, 10:58:46 AM
    Quote from: Altissimo on June 01, 2016, 10:33:19 AMi dont think nintendo/game freak is capable of alienating all their pokemon fans no matter how badly they fuck up

    Of course. The sheep follow the herd as they say. It just depends on what kind of sheep there are. For example in Gen V when angry genwunnners got mad about the game being too different (despite the whole point of it being a reboot), folks like me stayed to see how it could potentially change the formula, and folks were either really pleased or disappointed with a legitimate complaint in the end, but the loud folks who refused to let go of their charizards somehow convinced Gamefreak to ignore the ones who wanted to see the series grow, and instead listen to the group of folks by stuffing X/Y with Gen 1 throwbacks that made no sense plotwise.

    Then you have the (admittedly reasonable) group of people demanding a Hoenn remake for years after HGSS, and when we finally got one announced everyone was excited, only for those like myself who were the most hopeful to be crushed at how they made it, only for us to be swept under the rug as fans due to those who just blindly accepted them and were like "ok i guess i can handle this".

    It's really infuriating when for the past year and a half the only websites that show up when I goggle my usual complaints with the games are GameFAQS forums and 4Chan, two of the most toxic communities out there. I don't want to be associated with those places, but this depression I've gained from feeling like the only one wanting to be cautious at the series after a heartbreak makes me honestly feel that I may have gotten too old for the main series now. Seriously, I felt overjoyed when earlier I expressed my honest opinions on reddit and others actually agreed with me, folks from a non-toxic community for once.

    I'll still play the TCG no matter what, as one day I hope to go to worlds and tell Masuda in person my honest disappointment, and to fulfill the main goal of Pokemon, "to be the very best."

    That being said, I also don't want Pokemon to fall and die to something like Yokai Watch. If that ever happened (or if they made a crossover) I may just die inside.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nitro Indigo on June 01, 2016, 11:15:41 AM
    Speaking of Yokai Watch, I saw someone on Bulbagarden Forums say that Pokémon would die because of it. I swear, half of the people on that site hate Pokémon...

    As for my problems with the franchise, I don't like how recent Pokémon anythings try to cram as many legendaries into the plot as possible.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Maelstrom on June 01, 2016, 12:07:44 PM
    A guy just named a new species of bee found in Chile after Charizard (http://phys.org/news/2016-06-endemic-polyester-bees-chile-draconic.html)
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nitro Indigo on June 01, 2016, 12:46:34 PM
    The article should've mentioned that shiny Charizard is grey. Still cool, though.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on June 01, 2016, 01:15:24 PM
    Except shiny Charizard is black.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nitro Indigo on June 01, 2016, 01:24:56 PM
    Close enough?

    I made that post before I read the part that mentioned the yellow-to-orange thing.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on June 01, 2016, 01:33:33 PM
    Charizard? Not, like, any other Bug Pokemon?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Maelstrom on June 01, 2016, 01:34:19 PM
    Quote from: Dudeman on June 01, 2016, 01:15:24 PMExcept shiny Charizard is black.
    (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.bulbagarden.net%2Fupload%2Fe%2Fe6%2FSpr_5b_006_s.png&hash=8c1088d7deb7edd86dda89ff6370fd79dc5eb888)
    That's debatable.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on June 01, 2016, 01:35:44 PM
    looks kind of purplish to me
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: cashwarrior1 on June 01, 2016, 01:36:09 PM
    Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on June 01, 2016, 10:58:46 AM
    Stuff TheDreamingHawk said
    Of course. The sheep follow the herd as they say. It just depends on what kind of sheep there are. For example in Gen V when angry genwunnners got mad about the game being too different (despite the whole point of it being a reboot), folks like me stayed to see how it could potentially change the formula, and folks were either really pleased or disappointed with a legitimate complaint in the end, but the loud folks who refused to let go of their charizards somehow convinced Gamefreak to ignore the ones who wanted to see the series grow, and instead listen to the group of folks by stuffing X/Y with Gen 1 throwbacks that made no sense plotwise.

    Then you have the (admittedly reasonable) group of people demanding a Hoenn remake for years after HGSS, and when we finally got one announced everyone was excited, only for those like myself who were the most hopeful to be crushed at how they made it, only for us to be swept under the rug as fans due to those who just blindly accepted them and were like "ok i guess i can handle this".

    It's really infuriating when for the past year and a half the only websites that show up when I goggle my usual complaints with the games are GameFAQS forums and 4Chan, two of the most toxic communities out there. I don't want to be associated with those places, but this depression I've gained from feeling like the only one wanting to be cautious at the series after a heartbreak makes me honestly feel that I may have gotten too old for the main series now. Seriously, I felt overjoyed when earlier I expressed my honest opinions on reddit and others actually agreed with me, folks from a non-toxic community for once.

    I'll still play the TCG no matter what, as one day I hope to go to worlds and tell Masuda in person my honest disappointment, and to fulfill the main goal of Pokemon, "to be the very best."

    That being said, I also don't want Pokemon to fall and die to something like Yokai Watch. If that ever happened (or if they made a crossover) I may just die inside.
    [close]

    I agree with most of this and am especially disappointed at how easy pokemon is getting. I still enjoy pokemon, but it's getting really lack luster as of late and they really need to spend like 2 years studying what made each game great and learn from what makes it bad. Each game has its high points, but they also have lots of low points. Game developers are too afraid to make challenging games because kids will stop playing. Kids are going to stop playing challenging games if they keep playing easier and easier games. I want the next pokemon games to stump me and make me train, like in Gen 3 (my first game). I'm not much of a fan of reading story, but I'm going to actually read it in Sun/Moon and I hope to get something good and interesting, so I don't just spam-click "A".
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on June 01, 2016, 01:37:01 PM
    I like easy games though
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on June 01, 2016, 01:39:00 PM
    Games were harder when we were younger because we were younger and didn't know how to play them worth jack shit.

    I also love when people say pokemon in general is getting too easy as if Platinum wasn't one of the hardest main series games and Black and White (and BW2) weren't also incredibly rough. Like, two (2) games (X/Y and ORAS) come out and suddenly the series is "getting" easier. That's not how that works.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on June 01, 2016, 01:40:57 PM
    that's not true, I still can't beat RBYFRLG without cheating
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on June 01, 2016, 01:41:45 PM
    but is that a personal choice or not

    I can't beat SM64 without cheating but that's because i like cheating to beat it
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on June 01, 2016, 01:53:45 PM
    I've never beaten gary in FRLG and I've never beaten lance (fairly) in RBY
    yes, it's easier from when I was a kid because now I know how to get to viridian city (a big improvement from 5 year old me) but still too hard.  I've beaten RSE, DPPt, and ORAS.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on June 01, 2016, 01:55:33 PM
    plat is like 5 billion times harder
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on June 01, 2016, 01:59:47 PM
    Quote from: Altissimo on June 01, 2016, 01:39:00 PMGames were harder when we were younger because we were younger and didn't know how to play them worth jack shit.
    Eh, a lot of old games are still pretty difficult. There are also a lot of new games that are!

    QuoteI also love when people say pokemon in general is getting too easy as if Platinum wasn't one of the hardest main series games and Black and White (and BW2) weren't also incredibly rough. Like, two (2) games (X/Y and ORAS) come out and suddenly the series is "getting" easier. That's not how that works.
    I don't seem to ever remember Platinum being too difficult; what do people usually say made it difficult?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on June 01, 2016, 02:00:38 PM
    Cyrus and Cynthia primarily lmao. The level curve was on point but that meant you couldn't overlevel as easily.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Latios212 on June 01, 2016, 02:02:36 PM
    I remember being able to beat gen 4 games without much of a problem.

    I also remember only being able to beat the Elite Four in Silver with six Feraligatrs.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on June 01, 2016, 02:03:44 PM
    Quote from: Latios212 on June 01, 2016, 02:02:36 PMI remember being able to beat gen 4 games without much of a problem.

    I also remember only being able to beat the Elite Four in Silver with six Feraligatrs.

    how old were u in both cases

    seriously we all get better at games as we get older
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on June 01, 2016, 02:18:22 PM
    Quote from: Latios212 on June 01, 2016, 02:02:36 PMI remember being able to beat gen 4 games without much of a problem.

    I also remember only being able to beat the Elite Four in Silver with six Feraligatrs.

    why did you have six of them
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on June 01, 2016, 02:29:56 PM
    in platinum an action replay aided me through most of the game, but in diamond cynthia was a hard earned victory
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: TheDreamingHawk on June 01, 2016, 04:05:23 PM
    Quote from: Altissimo on June 01, 2016, 01:39:00 PMGames were harder when we were younger because we were younger and didn't know how to play them worth jack shit.

    Somewhat true in some ways, not true in others. Yes, when I was younger Gen I-II were moderately challenging while Gen III was through the roof, but when I replayed Gen I and III recently (not Gen II due to dead batteries), I still had a rough time getting to the end, mostly due to trainers that were usually pit at my level and were fun to challenge, with the gym leaders having the stronger pokemon that needed to be taken care of.

    Heck, I still think to this day that FRLG has the hardest main game ever and that Emerald had the hardest (but most rewarding) post game ever, which is why in the case of the latter seeing what ORAS gave instead really angered me. I don't want pokemon to become Ninja Gaiden III hard or anything, but I at least want the devs to not treat kids like they suddenly developed brain damage over the past decade.

    Oh, and don't even get me started on the stadium trilogy if you count those. The last two games (the ones we got) are so difficult even with transferred Pokemon that i STILL have never reached or beaten Round 2 in those titles to this very day. The first one is apparently even more difficult due to the CPU players being based off of real tournament players, so those games definitely prove pokemon can be pretty difficult even today
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on June 01, 2016, 04:19:36 PM
    Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on June 01, 2016, 04:05:23 PMHeck, I still think to this day that FRLG has the hardest main game ever and that Emerald had the hardest (but most rewarding) post game ever, which is why in the case of the latter seeing what ORAS gave instead really angered me.

    battle maison!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on June 01, 2016, 04:23:35 PM
    gen 3 was easier for me as a kid

    Quote from: Altissimo on June 01, 2016, 04:19:36 PMbattle maison!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I'd rather play in the battle pike
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on June 01, 2016, 04:25:18 PM
    I hate the Battle Maison because there's no creativity or challenge behind it. I rather have the Battle Frontier back where I can actually enjoy an engaging post game.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on June 01, 2016, 04:38:00 PM
    Quote from: Nebbles on June 01, 2016, 04:25:18 PMI hate the Battle Maison because there's no creativity or challenge behind it.

    that is Untrue (http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/battle-maison-discussion-records.3492706/)
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on June 01, 2016, 04:42:24 PM
    Even so, I just couldn't bring myself to care for it.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: cashwarrior1 on June 01, 2016, 04:44:55 PM
    The only reason I want Battle Frontier back is because I sucked at battling when I played Emerald and didn't play it. Now I want to get into competitive battling, and I think that Battle Frontier would be a fun way to get into it.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on June 01, 2016, 04:48:57 PM
    Okay honestly if you play the newer games without Exp. Share they're very difficult.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: cashwarrior1 on June 01, 2016, 04:50:50 PM
    I play them without exp. share to relive how I used to play pokemon. The only real problem when you do that is the difficulty spikes at random points (looking at you, pokemon X/Y).
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on June 01, 2016, 04:53:50 PM
    Quote from: cashwarrior1 on June 01, 2016, 04:50:50 PMI play them without exp. share to relive how I used to play pokemon. The only real problem when you do that is the difficulty spikes at random points (looking at you, pokemon X/Y).

    Exactly, but the people who complain about XY being too easy clearly play with the Exp. Share on at some point because if you don't you hit major, borderline unfair difficulty spikes (which is how I prefer my Pokémon games, so I have to actually strategize).
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on June 01, 2016, 04:58:07 PM
    Quote from: SlowPokemon on June 01, 2016, 04:53:50 PMExactly, but the people who complain about XY being too easy clearly play with the Exp. Share on at some point because if you don't you hit major, borderline unfair difficulty spikes (which is how I prefer my Pokémon games, so I have to actually strategize).

    No, they're complaining that the game gives you the option to make it easier. ://////
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on June 01, 2016, 05:00:01 PM
    no, really, easy is fine
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: cashwarrior1 on June 01, 2016, 05:09:20 PM
    Easy is fine, but too easy is not fine. It's especially not fine when they tell you you're the greatest when they were just holding your hand the entire time.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on June 01, 2016, 05:13:49 PM
    Quote from: cashwarrior1 on June 01, 2016, 05:09:20 PMEasy is fine, but too easy is not fine.

    But you have the option to make it harder. You're not forced to play it on "easy mode". There are plenty of ways to make it harder, and the easiest one is turning the Experience Share off.

    Plus, are you seriously complaining that a game for kids, in a series for kids, which has always been marketed and targeted to kids, and has always been a million times more forgiving than other JRPGs - especially other JRPGs from the era - is too easy for teens/adults?

    Not to mention! The EXP All did the same thing as the current experience share and it was in gen 1 and couldnt be turned off!
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on June 01, 2016, 05:20:32 PM
    Well, you had to earn that at least.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on June 01, 2016, 05:20:52 PM
    Well the Exp. All actually split up the Exp. yield among your party. In the Gen VI games, every Pokémon in your party gets half of what the Exp. yield would be for a solo Pokémon.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on June 01, 2016, 05:22:12 PM
    ok i forgot that that was true, fair point

    you can still turn the exp share off though

    it is not hard to do
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on June 01, 2016, 05:25:51 PM
    I just wish we had a challenge mode option again, like what gen 5 did, because I enjoyed having the option to up the difficulty.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on June 01, 2016, 05:29:35 PM
    I disliked the fact that you had to beat the game to activate that option but otherwise ye
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on June 01, 2016, 05:30:01 PM
    nobody here is really complaining about the difficulty level
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on June 01, 2016, 05:30:08 PM
    Oh yeah that was stupid, but it was a good idea nonetheless and I'd like to see that idea come back.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on June 01, 2016, 05:35:04 PM
    Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on June 01, 2016, 05:30:01 PMnobody here is really complaining about the difficulty level

    well, you're not, but the debate was "the games are too easy" at one point
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: cashwarrior1 on June 01, 2016, 05:48:21 PM
    Well, I do forgot that it's target toward kids, but technically, teenagers can be considered as kids. I'm not saying that they should target the games towards teenagers, but I feel that it's being too easy for both teens and kids. But then again, I neglected to ask any kids under 10 before coming to this conclusion, so I guess I shouldn't complain all that often and just enjoy. Although I'm making it sound like it's a huge problem to me, it's not all that big, I enjoy the games and they're fun, but when I think about certain difficulty stand points in the older generations I miss the quite obvious challenge there was in those games. I guess the newer games' challenges were just as hard, but way less obvious.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dude on June 01, 2016, 06:49:20 PM
    Quote from: tdh,cashwarriorWhy is this game tailored to me. If I want it harder it should be harder. Everything is about me!!!!!!😭😭😭😭
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on June 01, 2016, 07:46:40 PM
    Quote from: Altissimo on June 01, 2016, 04:19:36 PMbattle maison!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Well, now we have physical/special split, Mega Evolutions, more items, and more great Pokemon to choose from... though we can never get past the cheating AI!

    Quote from: Altissimo on June 01, 2016, 05:13:49 PMNot to mention! The EXP All did the same thing as the current experience share and it was in gen 1 and couldnt be turned off!
    *EXP. ALL flashbacks intensify*
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on June 01, 2016, 08:00:02 PM
    Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on June 01, 2016, 07:46:40 PMWell, now we have physical/special split, Mega Evolutions, more items, and more great Pokemon to choose from... though we can never get past the cheating AI!

    i have played upwards of like 600 matches in the battle maison and they don't cheat. They don't. They don't and I wish this misconception would go away because they do not
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on June 01, 2016, 08:14:20 PM
    I don't think the AI's ever cheated in any battle facility?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on June 01, 2016, 08:24:22 PM
    AI hax exists
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on June 01, 2016, 08:27:48 PM
    Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on June 01, 2016, 08:24:22 PMAI hax exists

    Nope
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on June 01, 2016, 08:36:23 PM
    The only AI thing I'm positive of is in gen 1, when the AI is tailored to be super effective against you no matter what and you could exploit it - such as a Dragonite spamming agility against a poison type, because the game thinks "psychic move of any type will help" and will use it as such.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Jub3r7 on June 01, 2016, 09:07:41 PM
    Quote from: Altissimo on June 01, 2016, 08:27:48 PM
    Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on June 01, 2016, 08:24:22 PMAI hax exists
    Nope

    well, hax in the metagame often means crits and AI's can get crits so technically "AI hax" is a thing that happens but it's not literally AI cheating it's just the AI getting lucky and ruining lives
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: TheDreamingHawk on June 01, 2016, 09:08:53 PM
    Quote from: SlowPokemon on June 01, 2016, 04:48:57 PMOkay honestly if you play the newer games without Exp. Share they're very difficult.

    X/Y? I can give you that (hence why X/Y isn't usually in my rants about the current state of Pokemon) ORAS however is still horribly easy even with the share turned off, at least compared to X/Y.


    Quote from: Altissimo on June 01, 2016, 04:38:00 PMthat is Untrue (http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/battle-maison-discussion-records.3492706/)

    OBJECTION! (http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=8238684)
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on June 01, 2016, 09:15:29 PM
    Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on June 01, 2016, 09:08:53 PMOBJECTION! (http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=8238684)

    i appreciate the reference but there isnt any cheating hax. unless you were agreeing with me lmao
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on June 01, 2016, 09:44:01 PM
    the only way to make the AI actually able to beat humans consistently is with hax
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on June 01, 2016, 09:45:43 PM
    Quote from: Altissimo on June 01, 2016, 09:15:29 PMi appreciate the reference but there isnt any cheating hax. unless you were agreeing with me lmao
    Anything that gives the AI an advantage that players don't normally get (which includes ridiculously high accuracy, "convenient" crits, or just generally taking advantage of RNG) would fall under the definition.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on June 01, 2016, 09:48:38 PM
    Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on June 01, 2016, 09:45:43 PMAnything that gives the AI an advantage that players don't normally get (which includes ridiculously high accuracy, "convenient" crits, or just generally taking advantage of RNG) would fall under the definition.

    That doesn't happen. It's a mix of confirmation bias and bad luck. Again, I've played upwards of 600 battles in the Maison and spent a lot of time around people who have clocked thousands in a row and seen NONE OF THIS.

    Actually, no. Let me use the thing they always tell me to use when people say shit like this. Produce a replay. Give me a Battle Video or a Youtube Video where there is literally no explanation except "the AI cheated". And I mean "literally no explanation": Quick Claw activating three times in a row is not likely but it is still possible.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on June 01, 2016, 09:53:17 PM
    that freaking mono-OHKO Dewgong in the Battle Factory
    not saying not missing is through cheats, just saying I've lost too many games to it for it to be a coincidence
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dude on June 01, 2016, 09:54:09 PM
    Where's the replay
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on June 01, 2016, 09:54:39 PM
    Okay, but you getting lucky and the AI lucky is the same thing. Same odds, same chances, etc. Alti's absolutely correct. Bad luck happens all the time in any game. I've had horrible luck in Pokemon, Fire Emblem, multiple turn-based RPGs and such. And it's not "hax". It's shitty luck from a bad RNG roll. It happens to anyone, but it's by no means the AI cheating. Would you be "cheating" if you got all the lucky stuff?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on June 01, 2016, 09:55:23 PM
    I fucking hate OHKO users and I won't deny that they suck
    But it really, truly is just straight up coincidence, i know we all want to believe the maison/frontier is out to get us so we can feel better about fighting it but shit happens. I literally just lost a 118-streak in Maison doubles right before making this post to a Gourgeist so it's not as though I'm above losing

    @Nebbles yes thanks
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on June 01, 2016, 09:56:20 PM
    it would be hacking if it happened to me because it doesn't
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dude on June 01, 2016, 09:57:57 PM
    Sounds more like people being sore losers to RNG
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on June 01, 2016, 09:58:55 PM
    confirmation bias. We miss the times we crit and get lucky with hits and not misses because they're "unspectacular" but the times THEY crit and the times THEY hit and not miss and WE miss are more meaningful.

    Actually, no, here, let me post my own replay.

    EZRW-WWWW-WWXT-JGZR

    I fucked up with Aegislash. I should have paid the price and died to Moltres. The AI should have punished me brutally for fucking up with Aegislash. Instead, it missed with Overheat. There is no reason that attack "should" have missed in a hax game because it would have lost me the battle against the Chatelaine if it had hit.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on June 01, 2016, 10:13:28 PM
    Let me bring up something from Fire Emblem to push my point.

    In games 6-12, there was this thing called "true hit". What was it, exactly? Well, when your unit went to go face another, the numbers displayed for the hit weren't entirely accurate. The way the games calculated the hit chances was basically a dice roll of two numbers together. I got hit by a ridiculously low chance once. I missed some really high hits. It's not hacks, it's just horrifically bad luck.

    And that's just shit that happens sometimes in games that rely on RNG based battle system.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nitro Indigo on June 01, 2016, 11:57:28 PM
    The AI gets affected by paralysis and confusion less than I do for some reason in multiple games. RNG indeed...
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on June 02, 2016, 12:13:58 AM
    1: Saying "it's not likely, but it's possible" is not an argument (though you could argue that, given a series of infinite battles, encountering hax is inevitable, mass hax of this variety is incredibly uncommon, saying this as someone who has faced a lot of RNG on Showdown). Judging by the commonly accepted guidelines for AI having an unfair advantage over the player (let's use this (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheComputerIsACheatingBastard) as an example, since it's a quick and easy reference; there's even a section dedicated to Pokemon. For a summary with slightly less jargon, see Wikipedia's section on Cheating AI (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_intelligence_(video_games)#Cheating_AI)), the AI does not need to be perfect in order to be considered as "cheating" ("This can be a quick-and-dirty method of achieving a 'level' playing field against a skilled human player, but can also create Fake Difficulty when the computer has access to moves that a human player clearly does not."). Thus, being repeatedly improbable would be good enough to fit the definition. If the AI were always perfect in terms of RNG and prediction, it would pretty much be completely unbeatable, which wouldn't be very fun or enticing for the player. This need for a slight imperfection is also the reason why it is sometimes possible to exploit the AI. On the other hand, if the AI didn't have any sort of enhancements, it would likely be way too easy or exploitable. The problem is finding the right types of enhancements so that the player doesn't feel cheated- getting a multitude of BrightPowder-related misses (which seems to be a common item in the Maison) would definitely make someone feel cheated, since it's incredibly rare that a normal player would get this (i.e. if someone gets one BrightPowder miss, it can be attributed simply to bad luck, but when it happens multiple times in a row with battle-changing results it can reasonably be seen as the computer trying to get a leg up, but since, as far as we can tell, the AI is not a sentient entity, it probably doesn't do this "intentionally," so to say, hence why it doesn't happen ALL the time or even with deliberate aim; I'm just speculating here since I don't know all the fine points of AI in video games, and I may not be wording everything right because it's getting late here and I've had a long day).

    There's also this, which would be a definite example of "the computer has access to moves that a human player clearly does not":
    Quote from: TV TropesThe AI of the battle facilities of Generation III onward (often either the 'Battle Tower' or the 'Battle Frontier') are designed to gain knowledge about your team as you accumulate winning streaks, despite the fact that you're facing new opponents over and over again and thus it wouldn't make sense for "Schoolgirl Jane" to know anything about the team that "Punk Sid" just battled. Specifically, you'll be forced to face teams that are increasingly designed to counter yours the higher your streak.

    While this may seem like a coincidence in many instances, the most damning evidence is that players that have used hacked Pokémon, Pokémon with special abilities and sets that literally do not exist anywhere in the game and thus the computer cannot possibly have had the knowledge to counter them beforehand, will still encounter teams that are tailor made to overcome the player's strategies.

    For evidence this still exists in the 6th generation's Battle Maison, try entering a Pokemon with Sand Stream as your lead plus an Aron with Sturdy and Endeavor. In the Battle Maison, you'll quickly start encountering a disproportionate number of Pokemon who are immune to sandstorms.

    2: The set of definitions you are using is asking for something that is rather unquantifiable (probably not completely so, but not something any one person could do easily): you would literally have to play tens of thousands of battles, find some sort of baseline to compare it to (which wouldn't be easy considering all the other factors that might influence results, and outliers, which will occur because RNG is, well, naturally unpredictable!), and even then, you can apparently dismiss everything by simply saying "lol rng." And even then, maybe I'm missing some sort of other complex steps you'd need to do in order to find instances where "there is literally no explanation except 'the AI cheated.'" Which is kind of pointless, because, as I said above, in length, the definition is stricter than necessary.

    But, regardless of whether or not this would answer your question, I found a bunch of funny/painful-to-watch replays (I'm not trying to use any of this as argument, and I don't necessarily advocate any of the opinions stated in these videos: I just thought these were some fun instances of such things happening). :P
    Spoiler
    [close]

    Bonus
    [close]
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: cashwarrior1 on June 02, 2016, 04:23:56 AM
    How about: Everyone just sucks, and Nintendo is smart.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on June 02, 2016, 09:05:08 AM
    thanks for that quote BDS
    what we're trying to say is that without AI hax there would be no possible way for an AI to be difficult to beat
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on June 02, 2016, 09:36:48 AM
    ok it's becoming increasingly clear to me that there is literally nothing i could ever say that would convince you it's not true and i dont want to waste any more of my time with this shit so w/e let's move the hell on

    favorite evil team go

    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on June 02, 2016, 10:19:31 AM
    Aqua, idk
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on June 02, 2016, 10:20:11 AM
    hell yea pirates

    i like magma more tho because they have badass hoodies
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on June 02, 2016, 10:28:33 AM
    I'll concede the hoodies. But I'd take Archie over Maxie any day.


    ...what? No! Not like that! Y-you dummy!
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: braix on June 02, 2016, 10:35:59 AM
    b-baka
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on June 02, 2016, 10:42:22 AM
    team aqua

    it's possible you're just wrong and being elitist though
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on June 02, 2016, 10:44:55 AM
    Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on June 02, 2016, 10:42:22 AMit's possible you're just wrong and being elitist though

    dunno if you are talking to me but if you are that's not true and i'd appreciate you actually going along with me changing the subject because i dont want to fight about it :^) thank you fam
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Olimar12345 on June 02, 2016, 10:48:31 AM
    hes right tho
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on June 02, 2016, 10:50:44 AM
    ok he's right. It's possible I'm wrong.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Olimar12345 on June 02, 2016, 10:57:10 AM
    i'm jk-ing
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on June 02, 2016, 10:58:30 AM
    Oh ok sorry!
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on June 02, 2016, 11:09:29 AM
    no about magma being better than aqua
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on June 02, 2016, 11:10:51 AM
    Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on June 02, 2016, 11:09:29 AMno about magma being better than aqua

    ok now that's a debate i can get behind

    fire is cooler than water
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on June 02, 2016, 11:30:37 AM
    see that simply isnt true
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on June 02, 2016, 11:38:02 AM
    thats what U think
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on June 02, 2016, 11:50:39 AM
    fire can't factually be cooler than water, it's fire
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on June 02, 2016, 11:51:47 AM
    ok this is a true point

    fire is more interesting and badass
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nitro Indigo on June 02, 2016, 11:56:29 AM
    What about Grass?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on June 02, 2016, 11:58:48 AM
    Team Plasma is the best evil team. You're ALL wrong.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on June 02, 2016, 12:06:48 PM
    I think in terms of the absolute scariest villainous team leaders, Ghetsis is firmly at the top of the list. I agree, though: for how absurd their original costumes look, Team Plasma in Black/White was actually fascinating, fresh, and well thought out (not that they weren't in B2/W2, especially with the split between the team).
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on June 02, 2016, 12:09:19 PM
    Oh come on, they had the best outfits.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on June 02, 2016, 02:06:11 PM
    Team Flare is the best evil team, followed by Plasma, but Magma is way way more awesome than Aqua. I hate Aqua, lmao they're all so stupid and Archie is annoying. I feel a spiritual connection to how logical and calculating Maxie is.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: WaluigiTime64 on June 02, 2016, 02:12:06 PM
    Maxie and Archie were both really incompetent regardless.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dude on June 02, 2016, 02:12:30 PM
    But Archie is so much cuter...
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on June 02, 2016, 02:14:13 PM
    I'm not a fan of muscles
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Bubbles on June 02, 2016, 02:18:00 PM
    but i love archie :-( he's my fav villain
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dude on June 02, 2016, 02:21:34 PM
    Quote from: SlowPokemon on June 02, 2016, 02:14:13 PMI'm not a fan of muscles
    whaaaat. But.... but...

    Oh yeah you like the bishounen kind of guys don't you
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on June 02, 2016, 03:34:21 PM
    Quote from: Dude on June 02, 2016, 02:21:34 PMwhaaaat. But.... but...

    Oh yeah you like the bishounen kind of guys don't you

    Hell yeah I do effeminate guys are great

    I mean effeminate girls are great too

    Yay for not being 100% homosexual
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Jub3r7 on June 02, 2016, 04:11:27 PM
    I'm gonna have to say Team Rocket. They are evil for profit and that extra realism makes them almost more threatening.
    They are the kind of people you meet at bars and you think she's cute so she asks you for your phone "to enter her number" but really she's trading all of your Pokémon Go team to her phone, keeping the strongest and selling the others.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: cashwarrior1 on June 02, 2016, 06:02:36 PM
    I think the best evil team is definitely those thugs who hung out in an abandoned hotel in X/Y.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: kondats on June 03, 2016, 10:50:39 AM
    The best evil team in my opinion is Team Galactic, which is also my favourite! They almost managed to destroy the whole universe! They had everything planned in detail and they knew how to deal with an unexpected situation, especially if you've watched the anime episodes. Plus, they have awesome music and hairstyles :3
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on June 03, 2016, 11:43:29 AM
    erm... I don't know if I'd consider a bowl cut "awesome"
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on June 03, 2016, 05:41:45 PM
    I mean, "awesome" in the ways of they look like giant nerds I'd shove into a locker.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: cashwarrior1 on June 03, 2016, 05:45:41 PM
    Team Galactic was annoying, just like any evil team should be. I wanted to stop them from doing their plans so I could stop fighting them. There was too many of them! Especially their admins. (At least there weren't an unnecessary amount of admins like Team Flare.)
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on June 03, 2016, 05:48:18 PM
    idk admins should be proportionate to the size of the group, perhaps team flare was just a lot bigger than galactic
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: cashwarrior1 on June 03, 2016, 06:01:46 PM
    I guess Galactic felt bigger then. Team Flare's admins felt like there was too many (pretty much all of them were at the end, about 10).
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on June 03, 2016, 06:27:34 PM
    ...weren't there only four admins to Team Flare? Or are the unique characters I'm thinking of (three gals and a guy) not admins?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: cashwarrior1 on June 03, 2016, 06:33:14 PM
    Those four characters were admins. I guess they were higher admins, because there were other members called Admins even though they didn't have a distinct look.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: KefkaticFanatic on June 04, 2016, 11:47:11 AM
    Honestly whether or not I had exp share I still ohko every single trainer, gym leader, e4 without any grinding in xy. Those games were pathetically easy if you could at minimum follow type advantage.

    ooOOOoops old topic
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on June 04, 2016, 12:32:02 PM
    Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on June 04, 2016, 11:47:11 AMHonestly whether or not I had exp share I still ohko every single trainer, gym leader, e4 without any grinding in xy. Those games were pathetically easy if you could at minimum follow type advantage.

    ooOOOoops old topic

    If you literally didn't use he Exp. Share at all, you can't OHKO much of anything after the difficulty spikes. Even keeping it on for a few Trainers makes a difference.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on June 18, 2016, 09:50:44 PM
    3DZW-WWWW-WW4A-5A8Q

    I fucking hate Pokémon
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: E. Gadd Industries on June 19, 2016, 03:04:02 AM
    I'm confused, what?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nitro Indigo on June 19, 2016, 03:38:02 AM
    It's a battle video code.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on June 19, 2016, 10:05:12 AM
    Quote from: Nitro Indigo on June 19, 2016, 03:38:02 AMIt's a battle video code.

    of a HORRIBLE BATTLE at battle 194 when i was trying to get 200 godddddddd
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on June 19, 2016, 10:07:27 AM
    AI hax :^)
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on June 19, 2016, 11:45:38 AM
    please dont bring that up again kthx :^)

    besides i won the battle lmao
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Jub3r7 on June 24, 2016, 03:24:32 AM
    8^y

    oh I believe today (Friday) is the last day for XY / ORAS mystery gift featuring Manaphy level 100 holding king's rock
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: E. Gadd Industries on June 24, 2016, 03:31:46 AM
    Can confirm
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: cashwarrior1 on June 24, 2016, 05:19:47 AM
    Quote from: Jub3r7 on June 24, 2016, 03:24:32 AM8^y

    oh I believe today (Friday) is the last day for XY / ORAS mystery gift featuring Manaphy level 100 holding king's rock
    Oh... That's why everyone I battle online always has a legendary! Makes sense.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on June 24, 2016, 08:30:23 AM
    lol nah its just cause people are scrubs
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nitro Indigo on June 24, 2016, 10:25:57 AM
    Please listen to this:
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on June 24, 2016, 10:39:04 AM
    http://www.siliconera.com/2016/06/24/new-pokmon-sun-moon-info-will-revealed-july-1-2016/
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nitro Indigo on June 24, 2016, 01:51:35 PM
    Will the European release date be pulled forward five days?
    (I can dream...)
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: E. Gadd Industries on June 24, 2016, 03:38:50 PM
    I finally found the original Pokémon Pinball today!
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on July 01, 2016, 08:34:58 AM
    Anyone remember the part where a bunch of people claimed Gen 6 was too easy? Experimental math suggests steps are being made to re-balance things for Gen 7. (http://antialiasis.tumblr.com/post/146749415515/umbrahighpriestofgiratina-corvusatrox-so#notes)

    So you can stop your bellyaching.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on July 01, 2016, 08:36:56 AM
    none of that makes any sense to me
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on July 01, 2016, 08:41:36 AM
    Short version: Trainer battles may no longer give boosted EXP. This may be to make up for EXP Share mechanics.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on July 01, 2016, 09:11:23 AM
    how is that good though
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on July 01, 2016, 09:15:38 AM
    i personally am not a fan but considering how many people were bitching about the exp share, this is to offset it so
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on July 01, 2016, 09:18:16 AM
    making the exp share more necessary doesn't seem like a solution
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on July 01, 2016, 09:20:15 AM
    that's not what i am getting at at all my god

    people complained that the exp share made the game too easy. now, without trainer exp bonuses, both turning the exp share off and using the exp share will still result in lower leveled pokemon on your part, meaning you dont get super overleveled super quick

    edit: actually wait I was wrong when I said it was just the trainer bonus that was different in the formula! It also looks like the game will use Gen 5's level-scaling mechanic, in addition to removing the trainer bonus.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on July 01, 2016, 02:15:00 PM
    Makes sense. If they're adamant about keeping the Exp. Share the way it is, then they'd need another way to decrease the inflow of experience. I think it's a good compromise.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nitro Indigo on July 09, 2016, 01:16:43 PM
    This remix is amazing. It has a lot of original parts, and bits of various PMD music, but it's still recognisable as a Dark Matter remix. Also, it's a collab between two of my favourite remixers.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on July 20, 2016, 04:56:49 PM
    So, does everyone remember how there've been reports going around about studios bidding for the rights to make a live-action Pokémon movie?

    Okay. Now, does anyone remember that Legendary seemed to be making the strongest push?

    Well, apparently they won. We're getting out live-action film, folks. Get your tickets, because the hype train is leaving the sta--

    ...hm? What's that? ...they're doing what? ...it's based on that?


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Th64L0VGA3I
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on July 20, 2016, 05:00:50 PM
    -_-'
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on July 20, 2016, 05:45:32 PM
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cR4ADXBkII

    only if this is the case
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on July 20, 2016, 05:47:21 PM
    I read somewhere a while back that he actually said no to this specifically. :'(
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Yug_Guy on July 20, 2016, 05:48:24 PM
    Quote from: Dudeman on July 20, 2016, 04:56:49 PMSo, does everyone remember how there've been reports going around about studios bidding for the rights to make a live-action Pokémon movie?
    Okay. Now, does anyone remember that Legendary seemed to be making the strongest push?
    Well, apparently they won. We're getting out live-action film, folks. Get your tickets, because the hype train is leaving the sta--
    Eh. To be perfectly honest, I don't really like the idea of a live-action Pokemon movie. Something about putting Pokemon in a realistic setting just seems off to me. I mean, I've seen fan "trailers" for realistic Pokemon movies, and I've never been super impressed by them. I really think they need to try something differen--

    Quote from: Dudeman on July 20, 2016, 04:56:49 PM...hm? What's that? ...they're doing what? ...it's based on that?
    Spoiler
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Th64L0VGA3I
    [close]
    Spoiler
    [close]

    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on August 04, 2016, 12:46:30 AM
    I think I'm gonna do a Nuzlocke of Y, no Exp. Share or Wonder Trading. It'll actually be the first time I've attempted one so hopefully it'll be fun!
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: E. Gadd Industries on August 04, 2016, 03:38:08 AM
    I still have yet to try one and still don't entirely get the concept.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: WaluigiTime64 on August 04, 2016, 03:59:00 AM
    Nuzlockes are pretty simple to understand. It's just a bunch of self-imposed rules to make the main-game actually challenging.

    1. You can only catch the first Pokemon that you find in a route. The start of the game (before you get pokeballs) ignores this rule.
    Example: I encounter a Pidgey on Route 1, but I have no Pokeballs, so it doesn't matter. I go back to Route 1, in the hopes of getting a Pidgey again, but I get a Rattata instead. I am forced to use either: a) Catch the Rattata, or: b) Leave the Rattata and not catch anything on Route 1 ever again.

    2. If a Pokemon faints, it must be put into the PC, never to be seen again. This makes items such as Revives useless.
    Example: My starter faints. I have to go to the Pokemon Centre, put it in the PC and never take it out ever again.

    3. Optional: Rename your Pokemon to something that'll make you actually care about it. Adds to the hurt and fear of losing it.
    Example: I rename my Kakuna as "ID#000". This is against the rule.

    I can't remember if this is everything or not, because I'm just writing this off the top of my head. People just do Nuzlockes because it adds a challenge to a fairly easy game, and makes you feel a bit more for your Pokemon.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: E. Gadd Industries on August 04, 2016, 06:09:59 AM
    Huh. I may have to give that a try sometime when I have spare time. And lots of it.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on August 04, 2016, 09:45:24 AM
    Okay, I went and moved all my 'mons into the Pokémon Bank and restarted my file. The Nuzlocke has begun!

    Current Progress: Just defeated Viola. That's a story right there.

    Current Team:
    Lv. 13 Steaklord (Fennekin, Male, Starter)
    The majority doesn't seem to care much for the Fennekin line and I think it's regarded as the worst of the starters competitively, so obviously I had to pick it. Also because Braixen (hence the nickname).
    Lv. 14 Birble (Pidgey, Male, met Route 2)
    I was really happy not to run into a Bunnelby or Fletchling as my first catch. Birble's proven to be a better choice than Steaklord in most situations so he's ended up leveled higher. Oops?
    Lv. 10 Filmore (Spewpa, Male, met Santalune Forest)
    Sad that I didn't get an elemental monkey out of the forest, and I thought Filmore would probably just end up being filler (hence the name) which I'll end up replacing. Luckily he's proven to be hardy and has Stun Spore and Protect.
    Lv. 10 Marbeline (Azurill, Female, met Route 3)
    Marbeline's way more frail than I was expecting and it can hardly do anything with the Water-type attacks it has, which kind of sucks. I've had Azumarills on teams in the past which I've loved so I'm holding out on her. Plus she's the only potential Water-type I have right now.
    Lv. 10 Palmer (Riolu, Male, met Route 22)
    F*** YEAH I RAN INTO A RIOLU FOR MY FIRST ENCOUNTER. He doesn't have a lot offensively at the moment, but I think Palmer will be a staple of the team, provided he doesn't die.

    Things went pretty smoothly until I fought Viola. Going into the gym, I forgot that it's impossible to get out without beating it first, but the trainers inside were little trouble. Viola though...kind of embarrassing, actually. I led with Steaklord to get the type advantage over Bug, but I forgot that Viola's first 'mon was a Surskit, which proceeded to use Water Sport on the first turn. So much for that. So I switched to Birble (who knows Gust) and beat it pretty quickly. Then Viola sends out her Vivillon, which shouldn't be a problem, except it knows Infestation, and Infestation prevents switching. Also I'd forgotten to level my 'mons decently beforehand 'cause I thought I'd be able to leave the gym between battles, so Birble and Steaklord were the only ones whose levels could match hers. And now I'm stuck with Birble taking residual damage from Infestation and decent damage from Tackle, of all things. I did beat her using only Birble, but I had to use 7 of my 10 potions and Birble probably would have died if the Vivillon ever got a crit. I really want to keep Birble.

    This is fun. Stressful, but fun.

    UPDATE: I should have known naming that Bulbasaur Cedric was a bad idea. Casualty count: 1. I hate Fufrous.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Shadoninja on August 15, 2016, 11:03:26 PM
    [Redacted]
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on August 16, 2016, 06:04:38 AM
    Quote from: Shadoninja on August 15, 2016, 11:03:26 PMAfter 3,000 years,
    I lol'd
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: cashwarrior1 on August 31, 2016, 05:56:46 PM
    What's the most "nostalgic" pokemon game to you?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on August 31, 2016, 05:58:38 PM
    Probably fourth gen
    But they all still suck
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on August 31, 2016, 06:23:10 PM
    Gen 2 and Gen 3 are tied for me, though if I had to pick, probably Gen 2 because the GBC graphics also remind me of the Oracle games, which are high in nostalgia value.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on August 31, 2016, 06:57:43 PM
    Gen 2, it's the one I have the most memories of.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: cashwarrior1 on August 31, 2016, 07:02:55 PM
    Mine is either Gen 3 or Gen 5, both come really close. Gen 3 has the most childhood memories, but Gen 5's atmosphere and music just makes me love it so much.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: E. Gadd Industries on September 01, 2016, 04:15:41 AM
    Gen 4, with Gen 2 in second place. The first two games I played were Platinum & SoulSilver <3
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: cashwarrior1 on September 01, 2016, 04:19:39 AM
    I can't wait for the Diamond/Pearl remake because I don't remember gen 4 at all  :'(
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: E. Gadd Industries on September 01, 2016, 04:26:14 AM
    I started playing the franchise back in 5th grade but became disinterested in it about a year later. So, I got rid of all the games I had (PKMN, of course). Over this past summer break, I managed to find another Platinum. I played it, and it was like reuniting with a long-lost friend :')

    EDIT: Yes, Gen 4 remake would be greatly appreciated. Let's hope for something in the Direct today
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nitro Indigo on September 01, 2016, 06:15:06 AM
    Before Sun and Moon are released?

    Does anyone know a let's player who'd be willing to let me use some PMD Explorers footage?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on September 01, 2016, 06:53:42 AM
    Ask Marriland, maybe?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nitro Indigo on September 01, 2016, 07:47:27 AM
    I'm not sure if he'll respond.

    Also, I finished the script for the video... but my printer decided it was offline.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on September 01, 2016, 07:54:05 AM
    Eh, give it a shot anyway. You never know.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nitro Indigo on September 01, 2016, 08:42:02 AM
    I also refer to parts of the game Marriland hasn't covered yet, though.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on September 01, 2016, 10:53:48 AM
    Oh. Hmm, I'm not sure then...
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nitro Indigo on September 01, 2016, 12:37:47 PM
    I've already recorded the video and used placeholder images, now I just need to find better images/actual footage, and wait for someone I asked if I could use one of their remixes to respond.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Latios212 on September 28, 2016, 06:40:57 AM
    DIAMOND AND PEARL ARE TEN YEARS OLD
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nitro Indigo on September 28, 2016, 07:56:49 AM
    My relationship with Diamond and Pearl is weird. I found Diamond really dull when I was little, yet I still feel nostalgia for it, and I've grown to like it more. It's not a guilty pleasure... is there a term for things that are flawed, but you like unironically?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on September 28, 2016, 08:50:31 AM
    ...problematic fave?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on September 28, 2016, 09:13:08 AM
    Actually, guilty pleasure describes that.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: braix on September 28, 2016, 11:40:23 AM
    I remember I was stuck where Dawn said to tell my mom that I was gonna go on a bIG ADVENCHER. I didn't know why I wasn't able to go past her, I used to just skip all the text because I had a Korean version and reading is slow.

    Then I got the U.S. version a couple years later and I was like oh that's so fucking simple
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on September 28, 2016, 11:58:33 AM
    Quote from: Latios212 on September 28, 2016, 06:40:57 AMDIAMOND AND PEARL ARE TEN YEARS OLD
    that's impossible, because I remember pre-ordering mine
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: JDMEK5 on September 28, 2016, 12:04:37 PM
    ^You're just an old coot. Then again so am I even though my first Pokémon adventure was Platinum shortly after it came out.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on September 28, 2016, 01:32:11 PM
    Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on September 28, 2016, 11:58:33 AMthat's impossible, because I remember pre-ordering mine

    Me too! But it's not entirely accurate for us, because the games didn't come out in the US until April 22, 2007.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: cashwarrior1 on September 28, 2016, 02:40:52 PM
    Diamond was my second pokemon game and I remember when we got our DS lites for Christmas, my brother said that the beginning was "too hard" for us to play and so he got to play diamond first. Shortly after he stopped playing and declared "pokemon is dumb".
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: E. Gadd Industries on September 28, 2016, 05:23:54 PM
    Quote from: JDMEK5 on September 28, 2016, 12:04:37 PMmy first Pokémon adventure was Platinum shortly after it came out.
    ^^^that's me, but I got it 2ish years after it came out.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Trainer Ave on September 29, 2016, 06:20:07 AM
    I got my first two pokemon games at the same time (Pokemon Pearl and Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Explorers of Time) I completed Pearl but lost time right when I got to the Temporal Spire. I completed it much later on an emulator, but still there were years before I finally had beaten that game.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Oronoco on September 29, 2016, 06:27:03 AM
    Wow, sorry. What a horrible time to lose a game. I would lose them all the time, but never in the middle of my first play-through.

    I had never touched a video game until I picked up Sapphire in fourth grade. And, of course, my life was changed forever.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Trainer Ave on September 29, 2016, 11:51:31 AM
    It was even worse though. Fortunately no one spoiled the ending for me but God that was hard to watch.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: WaluigiTime64 on October 01, 2016, 04:19:48 PM
    (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FDBDTFVN.png&hash=39022578ecc86746cf7bab9e10783470ace4778b)

    This makes me sad.
    For the record, I have never searched anything about Pokemon Go.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Latios212 on October 01, 2016, 04:24:15 PM
    Not as bad as this gem I found a while back.

    (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F2kWjsd9.png&hash=fccf05160adbe8e7a3f2cf44ad6cd7f441fec556)
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on October 01, 2016, 04:26:12 PM
    when little kids have access to the internet
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: JDMEK5 on October 07, 2016, 06:49:31 PM
    http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-news/circle-back-for-a-second-chance-to-get-hoopa/
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Zeila on October 11, 2016, 10:54:22 AM
    There's a (gamestop/game) volcanion event that started yesterday and lasts until the 31st

    http://serebii.net/games/currentevents.shtml
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: cashwarrior1 on October 11, 2016, 03:40:45 PM
    Yay a free legendary I can use on my team so I don't get obliterated by other people with cheap legendaries because I actually put time and effort into catching, planning, and training my pokemon to be perfect instead of ditching them for OP legendary pokemon with one-hit KO moves!
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: E. Gadd Industries on October 11, 2016, 04:42:58 PM
    ...what a description.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: TheDreamingHawk on October 11, 2016, 06:11:42 PM
    Event legendaries can't be used in official battles. Only free mode (Which is pointless) or the main story.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: cashwarrior1 on October 11, 2016, 06:24:06 PM
    Wait, really?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: E. Gadd Industries on October 11, 2016, 06:25:16 PM
    Yeah. You didn't know that? I just assumed you meant for free mode, else I would've said something (thanks, TDH!)
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nitro Indigo on October 12, 2016, 07:54:05 AM
    I haven't been keeping up with the event legendary downloads, to be honest. I kind of lost interest in playing video games, for now.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on October 12, 2016, 08:34:05 AM
    I've basically been checking in once a month to get the next event Pokémon.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: cashwarrior1 on October 12, 2016, 03:01:28 PM
    Quote from: Nitro Indigo on October 12, 2016, 07:54:05 AMI haven't been keeping up with the event legendary downloads, to be honest. I kind of lost interest in playing video games, for now.
    This is me with video games. I need a constant supply of free or cheap games to keep me busy.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Latios212 on October 15, 2016, 05:58:53 PM
    I just dug up my Pokémon Mini and boy am I having a blast from my childhood

    Spoiler
    (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FIoRIw1e.jpg&hash=47d3423facc02cbf4cac5888b1d5f3f326b2682b)
    [close]
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Olimar12345 on October 15, 2016, 06:38:48 PM
    /jelly. I had the pokemon pikachu 1&2, but not this D:
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: cashwarrior1 on October 16, 2016, 09:53:35 AM
    So I was just thinking about how much difficulty I have when fighting the champion or the elite four. People usually tend to say that the champion wasn't too hard after beating them, but I swear that the only time I ever yell at a video game is fighting a champion. I remember in B/W, it took me 4 days to reach the elite four, then it took me 4 months to beat the elite four. Even then, I had no revives, no potions, and one pokemon with 3 health. I just wanted to share my thoughts as I've been going down memory lane :)
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Olimar12345 on October 16, 2016, 10:05:01 AM
    I think if you strategically plan your team and train sufficiently it isn't supposed to be that hard D:
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on October 16, 2016, 10:09:13 AM
    It used to give me a really hard time when I was a kid, but if you level and train properly and evenly you should be fine.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: cashwarrior1 on October 16, 2016, 10:41:35 AM
    I dunno how it's a problem for me then. I fight EVERY trainer, I'm constantly switching out all my members so that they're all around the same level. I create a strategy for a lot of my pokemon, but I don't use drugs. I know my typings. The problem is: the elite four and champion can one-shot almost all my pokemon because they have a move I'm weak to. It's not a matter of strategy or being at a good level, it's a matter of surviving a single blow. I dunno, my pokemon seem to be murdered by moves that are way more powerful than I'm expecting.

    EDIT: I'm not trying to complain that I apparently suck at pokemon. I actually really like the fact that I struggle against the champion/elite four, it makes me feel WAY more accomplished when I do defeat them.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on October 16, 2016, 03:08:18 PM
    Buy 90 max revives
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: cashwarrior1 on October 16, 2016, 03:44:30 PM
    I spend all my money on full restores :P
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: E. Gadd Industries on October 16, 2016, 05:40:53 PM
    I got a Volcanion yesterday! :P Heads up for those who don't know: you can get it at GameStop until the 31st.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: TheDreamingHawk on October 17, 2016, 10:01:11 AM
    I got two last week. For the first time in a gen, I have all Pokemon, including events.

    ...But I feel empty inside. No joy, no relief, Just "oh good, its over." Was it because ORAS made my heart break for many reasons? (Hence why I never liked playing it outside of my time at VGC Regionals) Couldn't be, since I obtained all 718 Pokemon before ORAS launched in my X version and felt the same way. (which I had moderate enjoyment with due to berry mutations and wi-fi with friends.)

    Perhaps it's because the GTS can give you literally ANYTHING by searching the name of the Pokemon, unlike prior gens where you must see the pokemon first? I thought that for the longest time, since Gen IV was the closest I came to 100%ing a dex before Gen VI (the last ones I needed to catch being fossil pokemon that were too high of a level to evolve into) but looking back at it now, in Gen IV I tried to get the pokemon I've seen in my dex via the GTS and never had the same crazy luck I did in Gen VI.

    I don't know, but while I felt super happy and eager to finish my dex in Gen IV (or at least try before I got stuck), finishing the dex in Gen VI had zero effect on making me happy, even before ORAS came out. And this is in an era where you get a shiny charm for completing it (which TBH I can care less about as shinies are crap IMHO so I prefer the certificate)
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Maelstrom on October 17, 2016, 10:07:01 AM
    I think you're expecting too much fulfilment from video games.
    Might want to try elsewhere.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on October 17, 2016, 10:13:31 AM
    Set limits on yourself. Don't use the GTS so much.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: TheDreamingHawk on October 17, 2016, 10:19:18 AM
    Quote from: Maelstrom on October 17, 2016, 10:07:01 AMI think you're expecting too much fulfilment from video games.
    Might want to try elsewhere.

    I've beaten NES Ninja Gaiden II without cheats and many, many other games over the past few years and one thing in common is that in most cases, I feel happy and fulfilled when I beat/complete them. It's like a big hurdle I jumped over.

    But sometimes, there's that one game that's either too dull/shit/boring that makes it so I never want to touch it again (such as Kirby's Epic Yarn or Romance of the Three Kingdoms IV), or the rare game that's too frustrating that I'd rather not waste my time (like Kirby's Dream Course). But even those are rare as in most cases as there's usually one thing good that comes out of a game, whether its an in-game achievement  or seeing the credits, or at least having fun, even with the challenging games (I still love Castlevania titles despite me never being able to beat most of them without restore points/constant continuing for example)

    Heck, you could consider every other Pokemon game ever to be under that latter category, since I've never 100%ed the national dex in the other main games but I still enjoy beating trainers and collecting badges. Even the PMD games could fall under this since I've only 100%ed one (Gates) but love them all for their stories/the adventure.

    I guess what I'm saying is, if I can't get the motivation to collect all the collectibles in Gen VI (with the Pokedex feeling like a chore rather than being fun, when there's other things to hunt for like Berries and TMs), then something is off, either with the game or the way its presented.

    Though of course, the GTS is probably the main issue, since its easy to use and the one thing that limited it from being an instant-win tool is lifted. Still, its not like I started a new game and sat at my bed and GTS'd every pokemon from my bank to 100% the pokedex before the first gym, I still caught/traded/evolved hundreds on my own. I just used GTS for version exclusives or pokemon that were stupidly weak and hard to evolve (like nearly every fossil pokemon)
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on October 27, 2016, 09:18:34 AM
    Quote from: SlowPokemon on October 17, 2016, 10:13:31 AMSet limits on yourself. Don't use the GTS so much.

    I did this, I completed the OR pokedex and only ever used the GTS for vivillon forms

    and for the record i also limited other trades, i only traded for Y exclusives
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Ruto on October 27, 2016, 09:58:03 AM
    Things I do in ORAS:

    Breed lots of 5 IV pokemon
    Battle Maison
    QR codes
    Host giveaways of 5 IV pokemon for people who like my art page on facebook and 6 IV Dittos. Some suggestions on what people want? No legendaries...

    to do list:
    Breed pokemon that have certain hidden powers
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on October 27, 2016, 10:49:05 AM
    things I do in oras

    wish I could find my copy
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nitro Indigo on October 27, 2016, 10:54:33 AM
    I've actually been playing ORAS recently. Trying to get inspiration for a fanfic about Latios, Latias and a Minun.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Latios212 on October 30, 2016, 09:30:40 PM
    Ah, how time flies. On the left is a promotional card from the new TCG set, Evolutions, which is mostly comprised of (powered-up) reprints of Base Set cards (on the right, original Charmander).

    Spoiler
    (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FrYODOwn.jpg&hash=c4e9584fbf1c823e8f2fc99a28725fc32e3f4573)
    [close]
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Ruto on November 08, 2016, 09:54:32 AM
    So I went to the local Gamestop in a last ditch effort to get codes for Volcanion. The guy at the counter gave me FOUR.

    I walked outside holding the cards and this guy asks me about them, and I told him they were free at Gamestop and he runs inside. If he didn't take off so fast I would have just given him one :o I'm not sure if the clerk gave me everything that was left!

    Anyway, now I have three extra Volcanion codes...I don't think you can get more than one per game but I'll check. At most I'll keep only two for myself, and maybe I'll give the other two away for people who like lazy bears. Hehehe.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Latios212 on January 24, 2017, 09:29:10 AM
    Pokémon Duel??
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on January 24, 2017, 09:52:00 AM
    ??
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Latios212 on January 24, 2017, 10:05:19 AM
    Surprise mobile app release
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on January 24, 2017, 10:17:17 AM
    Hey, I recognize this! This is based on the failed trading figure game that Nintendo released several years ago, only now the figures are digital instead. Dunno if that'll be indicative of the app's success, too.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Latios212 on January 24, 2017, 10:18:13 AM
    Haha yeah I was gonna say that it looks and plays like the super dead TFG

    I mean now that it's free everyone will probably be playing it instead of dropping tons of money on bulky spinning figurines
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on May 08, 2017, 11:38:30 AM
    OKAY SINCE WHEN IS THE GSC BIKE THEME JUST THE GOLDENROD CITY THEME SPED UP AND HOW HAVE I NEVER NOTICED
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Olimar12345 on May 08, 2017, 11:47:16 AM
    wooooooooooooow ur 2 slo
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: AmpharosAndy on May 08, 2017, 11:57:11 AM
    R u bloody serious m9? That's 2005-time internet wowz!
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Latios212 on May 08, 2017, 11:57:39 AM
    I DISOWN YOU

    Even elementary school me figured that out
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: AmpharosAndy on May 08, 2017, 12:01:51 PM
    + Ampharos is winning the poll woop woop!
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Olimar12345 on May 08, 2017, 12:14:35 PM
    tbh it doesn't have much competition.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on May 08, 2017, 07:43:39 PM
    Tyranitar? Scizor?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Olimar12345 on May 08, 2017, 08:20:49 PM
    Those aren't mawile
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Trainer Ave on May 09, 2017, 08:08:19 AM
    Did anyone else notice that one of Mewtwod megas makes it taller while the other makes it shortor?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Sir Dino on June 06, 2017, 07:09:47 AM
    us, the fans: omg sinnoh remake?? pokemon on switch????

    pokemon direct: trololol nope

    (bump?)
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: cashwarrior1 on June 06, 2017, 12:31:42 PM
    *Ultrabump
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: AmpharosAndy on June 06, 2017, 12:37:07 PM
    It took me far too long to get that joke
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on June 06, 2017, 04:04:33 PM
    How underwhelming.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Trainer Ave on June 06, 2017, 08:48:52 PM
    Honestly I'm glad they didn't announce a sinnoh remake. I want them to take their time on it so it can be as good as it can possibly be. (And it must have the underground)
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on June 06, 2017, 08:54:45 PM
    Quote from: BoywithoutaFairy on June 06, 2017, 08:48:52 PMHonestly I'm glad they didn't announce a sinnoh remake. I want them to take their time on it so it can be as good as it can possibly be. (And it must have the underground)
    Implying they couldn't be/have been taking their time with them if they had announced them today?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on June 23, 2017, 03:02:21 AM
    Doublepost.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/64or2n/i_think_that_both_old_and_new_pokemon_all_look/?st=j49lrk1m&sh=27b1af99

    This seems rather interesting. Thoughts?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on June 23, 2017, 09:24:36 AM
    I've seen reference to this post before, but it really clicked with me when I looked at the collection of images someone posted in the comments with older eyes edited on some newer Pokémon. Suddenly they all looked way cooler.

    Except Bewear. Don't change Bewear.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Sir Dino on June 23, 2017, 09:30:48 AM
    Quote from: Dudeman on June 23, 2017, 09:24:36 AMExcept Bewear. Don't change Bewear.
    ^
    Even in the anime, Ash's eyes sort of dulled down to a child-like appearance, i'm guessing to attract a younger audience aka new generation who didn't grow up with pokemon like the 90s kids did?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on June 23, 2017, 10:05:21 AM
    Quote from: Dudeman on June 23, 2017, 09:24:36 AMI've seen reference to this post before, but it really clicked with me when I looked at the collection of images someone posted in the comments with older eyes edited on some newer Pokémon. Suddenly they all looked way cooler.

    Except Bewear. Don't change Bewear.
    Yeah, I saw that too. I never realized how much more awesome Greninja could look.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on June 23, 2017, 11:59:55 AM
    Quote from: Sir Dino on June 23, 2017, 09:30:48 AM^
    Even in the anime, Ash's eyes sort of dulled down to a child-like appearance, i'm guessing to attract a younger audience aka new generation who didn't grow up with pokemon like the 90s kids did?

    No, it's actually just an evolution of Ken Sugimori's art style. Over time he starts to favor rounder and more cartoonish designs, rather than the anime-esque and sharp angles of the original couple gens. We see him start to experiment with this in Ruby and Sapphire and then in Diamond and Pearl, but it becomes fully developed around Black and White. It's especially obvious when you compare the designs of ORAS to RS.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on June 23, 2017, 02:30:05 PM
    wouldn't ken sugimori be less and less responsible for the art the further the series progresses?
    Like I assume he did all the art in the beginning but now he's "lead art design" or something and doesn't hardly do any drawing

    edit: by jove reddit is on to something
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on June 23, 2017, 07:22:10 PM
    Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on June 23, 2017, 02:30:05 PMedit: by jove reddit is on to something
    Just to be clear, nobody's saying that the designs are bad just because the eyes changed; just that they become less like what older fans are used to Pokemon looking like, because of a simple, subtle change that then makes everything else seem "off" because you can't exactly pinpoint it easily. One reason for why this might be, in specific, is because it makes the evolved forms seem less intimidating and more "cutesy."
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on June 23, 2017, 08:12:53 PM
    Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on June 23, 2017, 02:30:05 PMwouldn't ken sugimori be less and less responsible for the art the further the series progresses?
    Like I assume he did all the art in the beginning but now he's "lead art design" or something and doesn't hardly do any drawing

    edit: by jove reddit is on to something

    Ken Sugimori does the final art of every character and monster in the games. He has the final say-so about design and ultimately gives each monster its official look.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on August 02, 2017, 08:54:17 AM
    A list without context or explanations ranking the Pokémon soundtracks:

    1. Sun / Moon
    2. Gold / Silver
    3. Diamond / Pearl
    4. Black / White
    5. Red / Blue
    6. Ruby / Sapphire
    7. X / Y

    Insert the remakes and sequels alongside their originals

    Any questions

    If your question is "are you hoping to cause a big discussion and argument" the answer is yes
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on August 02, 2017, 09:55:29 AM
    Is Ruby/Sapphire so low because the ORAS soundtrack was hot garbage?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on August 02, 2017, 10:04:01 AM
    Exactly what I was about to ask.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mastersuperfan on August 02, 2017, 10:09:48 AM
    The ORAS rival battle theme is one of my favorites and the RSE one is one of my least favorites

    Fite me
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on August 02, 2017, 10:13:16 AM
    I love the ORAS soundtrack actually (especially the rival theme like msf said), though the instrumentation choices are bland occasionally (I'm not going to rant about Shota Kageyama again but I am tempted). It's just that all of the soundtracks are so good that since RSE is shorter there's less material to love.

    Also I find it tough to gauge how good gen III is in general, since it was my first Pokémon game and I'm a bit blinded by my nostalgia. Rest assured I love all of the soundtracks on the list, even XY.

    XY is still by far the worst soundtrack though, can we all agree? It's so saccharine and bland besides the amazing team flare music and the occasional interesting route or town.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on August 02, 2017, 10:29:49 AM
    I'm actually really not a big fan of the Team Flare theme, it just comes off as a not-very-melodic mash of synths. I am a big fan of the Xerneas/Yveltal/Zygarde battle theme and the Elite 4 battle theme (and actually the Pokémon League theme as well). Oo, and the power plant/Pokéball plant music, that's really chill. But yeah other than that, X/Y's soundtrack is fairly meh.

    Gen 3 is way better than the list suggests, though, and certainly better than Red/Blue on track complexity alone. Gen 1 may be iconic but Gen 3 is epicly iconic.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Latios212 on August 02, 2017, 10:32:27 AM
    I'm surprisingly pretty okay with this list except for Sun and Moon being at the top and RSE being near the bottom

    And RSE's wasn't short though? At least not shorter than gens 1 and 2

    Once I get on my computer later... Expect a lot of typing
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on August 02, 2017, 10:35:41 AM
    To me, X/Y's ost isn't awful, it's just... there. It's boring. I can't really remember any of the tracks either. I'd have to force myself to play gen 6 again and lol @ that concept.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: AmpharosAndy on August 02, 2017, 10:47:27 AM
    I think my list would be the same except I haven't played Sun/Moon yet :P

    maybe swap gen 1 with 3
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mastersuperfan on August 02, 2017, 11:07:46 AM
    Just in case you were wondering (which you weren't, but just in case), this is how I'd rank 'em:

    1) Gen 5
    2) Gen 3
    3) Gen 7
    4) Gen 2 (HGSS only, since I haven't yet played GSC)
    5) Gen 4
    6) Gen 1
    7) Gen 6
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Olimar12345 on August 02, 2017, 11:32:22 AM
    I think I'd arrange it like this, personally:

    1) gen 2
    2) gen 1
    3) gen 4
    4) gen 3
    5) gen 7
    6) gen 6
    7) gen 5
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on August 02, 2017, 11:36:39 AM
    Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 02, 2017, 08:54:17 AMAny questions
    why is sun/moon so high
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Olimar12345 on August 02, 2017, 11:39:29 AM
    ^really. There's so much Hawaiian influence that makes it unappealing.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on August 02, 2017, 12:06:40 PM
    hmmm
    RSE
    <worst Zelda song ever goes here>
    RBY
    DPPt
    SM

    I haven't played the others
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mastersuperfan on August 02, 2017, 12:08:12 PM
    Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on August 02, 2017, 12:06:40 PMRSE
    Nocturne of Shadow
    RBY
    DPPt
    SM

    I gotchu fam

    EDIT: Also

    Quote from: Olimar12345 on August 02, 2017, 11:32:22 AM7) gen 5

    u WOT M8
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on August 02, 2017, 12:08:54 PM
    It's kinda hard for me to order them all, but I know my top three is at least GSC (and its remake), DPPt, and B/W (and counting its sequel)
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on August 02, 2017, 12:09:23 PM
    Quote from: Olimar12345 on August 02, 2017, 11:39:29 AM^really. There's so much Hawaiian influence that makes it unappealing.

    It's actually not the Hawaiian stuff I love, I really just like Minako Adachi's and Hitomi Sato's compositions and there are so many of them. The Team Skull and Aether Foundation tracks, especially Lusamine's battles, are probably my favorite. Read my soundtrack review if you want more reasons I love SM
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mastersuperfan on August 02, 2017, 12:09:56 PM
    Quote from: Nebbles on August 02, 2017, 12:08:54 PMB/W (and counting its sequel)

    <3
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Olimar12345 on August 02, 2017, 12:11:04 PM
    @slow just seems weird that it's your number 1.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on August 02, 2017, 12:12:06 PM
    Quote from: Dudeman on August 02, 2017, 10:29:49 AMI'm actually really not a big fan of the Team Flare theme, it just comes off as a not-very-melodic mash of synths. I am a big fan of the Xerneas/Yveltal/Zygarde battle theme and the Elite 4 battle theme (and actually the Pokémon League theme as well). Oo, and the power plant/Pokéball plant music, that's really chill. But yeah other than that, X/Y's soundtrack is fairly meh.

    Gen 3 is way better than the list suggests, though, and certainly better than Red/Blue on track complexity alone. Gen 1 may be iconic but Gen 3 is epicly iconic.

    Didn't reply to this, but Team Flare battle is imo the best track from XY. The melody is really surprising and kind of crazy for Pokémon music, and I absolutely hated it when I first heard it, but it's really grown on me over time. The harmonies (or lack thereof) just kind of consume you, it's awesome. Worth noting that I don't like the Xerneas/Yvletal track or the elite four track, so our tastes might not line up. I love the champion theme from XY, how about that one?

    Quote from: Olimar12345 on August 02, 2017, 12:11:04 PM@slow just seems weird that it's your number 1.

    Might be because it's new, but idk it's been nine months and it's still really captured me in a way that I really love. It's a bit on the quirky side, so maybe I just like that it's different.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on August 02, 2017, 12:29:28 PM
    Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 02, 2017, 12:12:06 PMI love the champion theme from XY, how about that one?
    It's pretty good, though I think the bells/chimes towards the beginning of the track and sporadically throughout mess with the tone. Doesn't mix very well with the bass-heavy electronics of the rest of the track imo.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on August 02, 2017, 12:52:44 PM
    HAHAHA the bells are the reason I love the track, I think they're perfect for diantha
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Trainer Ave on August 02, 2017, 01:05:31 PM
    if i had to pick my favorite soundtrack it would have to be Sinnoh. But several tracks from other regions manage to get my attention more often. For instance, I hate Black and White (I don't hate the sequel as much) but the rival battle theme is just amazing.
    When it comes to Johto i absolutely love Goldenrod City's theme (both GSC and HGSS) as well as New Bark Town (GSC only) and Lance/Red's battle theme (both versions again).
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Trasdegi on August 02, 2017, 02:38:47 PM
    Quote from: BoywithoutaFairy on August 02, 2017, 01:05:31 PMif i had to pick my favorite soundtrack it would have to be Sinnoh

    Totally agree. I think this ost has great instruments (gen 4 pianos > gen 3 trumpets) and the routes musics are the best of the serie. Some cities have great music (sunnyshore city, canalave city...) and the buildings too (Pokémon lab, veilstone game corner,  galaxy eterna building...)
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Latios212 on August 02, 2017, 02:39:53 PM
    Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 02, 2017, 12:09:23 PMIt's actually not the Hawaiian stuff I love, I really just like Minako Adachi's and Hitomi Sato's compositions and there are so many of them. The Team Skull and Aether Foundation tracks, especially Lusamine's battles, are probably my favorite. Read my soundtrack review if you want more reasons I love SM
    It does have some really great tracks, but I feel like as a whole soundtrack it's not as strong as the others. For all the great tracks there are, there's a fair amount I don't really care for. I especially think SM dropped the ball on route themes, for example.

    Compared to gens 1-4 in which I consider nearly every track to be a masterpiece.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Yug_Guy on August 02, 2017, 03:59:55 PM
    This probably isn't 100% accurate, since I'm doing this off the top of my head, but I'd probably rank the Pokemon soundtracks thusly:

    1. Gen IV
    2. Gen VII
    3. Gen III
    4. Gen V
    5. Gen II
    6. Gen I
    7. Gen VI
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on August 02, 2017, 04:23:13 PM
    from best to least
    3
    2
    5
    6
    4
    1
    7 (mostly because i dont remember ANY OF IT)
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: DocDoom2 on August 02, 2017, 05:15:57 PM
    Dang, I never really considered what my favorite soundtracks are...
    I guess I'd have to go with this order:

    1. 5
    2. 7
    3. 4
    4. 2
    5. 3
    6. 1
    7. 6

    Granted I don't particularly dislike any of them (except most of gen 6, 'cause reasons...)
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mastersuperfan on August 02, 2017, 05:17:19 PM
    Quote from: DocDoom2 on August 02, 2017, 05:15:57 PM1. 5
    2. 7
    3. 4
    4. 2
    5. 3
    6. 1
    7. 6

    You are a good man. I respect you.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on August 02, 2017, 05:33:39 PM
    Quote from: DocDoom2 on August 02, 2017, 05:15:57 PMDang, I never really considered what my favorite soundtracks are...
    I guess I'd have to go with this order:

    1. 5
    2. 7
    3. 4
    4. 2
    5. 3
    6. 1
    7. 6

    Granted I don't particularly dislike any of them (except most of gen 6, 'cause reasons...)

    See pretty much this is a good list. 2, 4, 5, and 7 are god-tier, 1 and 3 are middle tier, and 6 is meh tier.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Latios212 on August 02, 2017, 06:59:56 PM
    this is a little rushed because I'm busy :x

    It's really difficult to rank entire soundtracks; I don't particularly like doing so because of you can't just quantify the vast expanse of music that encompasses a whole soundtrack. But thoughts, anyway, since I do have them split into tiers similar to how Slow does:

    The god tier: Gold/Silver and Diamond/Pearl. Just about every single piece of music from these two soundtracks is truly amazing. Both games have a huge number of especially fantastic tracks and amazing melodies. Gold and Silver have such classic tracks all around the board that are a blast to listen to, and the constraints of 3 pitch channels doesn't hinder the beauty at all. Diamond and Pearl have so many intricate pieces, often with a jazz feel, which are truly an experience to listen to. Love the instrumentation all around, and there are just too many tracks to name that really just blow me away.

    The really, really, good tier: Red/Blue and Ruby/Sapphire. These soundtracks are all around fantastic. I don't have too much to say, other than that the music is of the top quality, but there aren't quite as many downright amazing classic pieces as there are from gens 2 or 4. (In my view, of course :P)

    The okay tier: Black/White, Sun/Moon, and X/Y. I was overall pretty disappointed that soundtrack quality took a hit after gen 4 ended. Don't get me wrong, there are a ton of pieces I love from all these games. But it just feels like there's a lot more "filler", tracks that just exist that don't really strike me as memorable. That's the case with these three gens. The best tracks are on a competing level with the other gens` music for sure, but these soundtracks are just diluted with a non-negligible of other (relatively) underwhelming tracks.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Olimar12345 on August 02, 2017, 07:13:35 PM
    ^gud post. I r8 10/10
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mastersuperfan on August 02, 2017, 07:14:46 PM
    Quote from: Latios212 on August 02, 2017, 06:59:56 PMThe okay tier: Black/White

    *winces*
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on August 02, 2017, 07:18:56 PM
    msf and i are gonna cry alone in our "gen 5 was great" corner
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on August 02, 2017, 07:30:51 PM
    Gen 5
    Strengths: Best story, best character development, decently challenging, lots of side content
    Weaknesses: Painful graphics, middling soundtrack (the godly tracks are diamonds in the rough), Dragon-type master race, Unova-only monsters including vanilluxe and klinklang
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on August 02, 2017, 07:31:17 PM
    it is my belief that gen 5 is the best gen. it is not my favorite but it is the best imo
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Olimar12345 on August 02, 2017, 07:35:08 PM
    So why do you think it's the best?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mastersuperfan on August 02, 2017, 07:35:44 PM
    Quote from: Dudeman on August 02, 2017, 07:30:51 PMGen 5
    Strengths: Best story, best character development, decently challenging, lots of side content
    Weaknesses: Painful graphics, middling soundtrack (the godly tracks are diamonds in the rough), Dragon-type master race, Unova-only monsters including vanilluxe and klinklang

    Haven't you said that you've never even played the game tho
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on August 02, 2017, 07:37:42 PM
    Yes, and the post is a result of hear-say. If I'm wrong feel free to correct me; I believe Gen 5 is fantastic on the whole but a lot of that comes from a well-built world and story.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dekkadeci on August 02, 2017, 07:45:52 PM
    I don't think I can properly rate any other generation's music because I haven't listened to enough of it, but I thought Pokemon Diamond had thoroughly average music. I probably played it with the sound on about half the time, and the only songs that stuck to my head were the Team Galactic Grunt theme (not Admin--on later listens of the latter, the polytonality of A flat minor and F minor is turning me off--IMO, only Giratina and Ultra Beasts can get away with polytonality in Pokemon music, and I don't think the Ultra Beasts theme is polytonal) and the Trainer battle theme. 2 songs out of the entire soundtrack is right in the ballpark of the average number of songs I remember per soundtrack. (Among other games I've played pretty thoroughly with the sound on, I remember 2 songs out of the Mushroom Wars OST and 1 song out of the Bust-a-Move DS OST, and let's just say that those games have much smaller OSTs.)

    On later listens, I remember the Pokemon Center song and its healing jingle, and the Wild battle theme is starting to come back to me. Unfortunately, 4 songs is around Paper Mario playthrough-only range (the regular battle theme, the Toad Town theme, the first chapter overworld theme ("Marching Along"), the Crystal Palace Crawl, and General Guy's theme are what I definitely remember from playthroughs--if you want songs that are sticking in later listens, there's the mini-boss theme, the Crystal King theme, Tubba Blubba's theme, and the Master's battle theme).

    I rate soundtracks above average when I start hitting the 7-song range, including later listens (e.g. Kirby Super Star--Gourmet Race, Halberd On Deck theme, Halberd Interior theme, Meta Knight's theme, Revenge of Meta Knight ending theme, Megaton Punch theme, Arena theme, Milky Way Wishes credits theme--I guess King Dedede theme extensions count?).
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on August 02, 2017, 07:48:52 PM
    Quote from: Latios212 on August 02, 2017, 06:59:56 PMIt's really difficult to rank entire soundtracks
    But:
    TOP TIER:
    1. Diamond/Pearl
    2. Black/White (and BW2)
    3. Gold/Silver (not HGSS)

    GOOD TIER:
    4. Ruby/Sapphire (and ORAS)
    5. Red/Blue

    MEH TIER:
    6. Sun/Moon
    7. X/Y
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on August 02, 2017, 07:50:55 PM
    Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on August 02, 2017, 07:48:52 PMMEH TIER:
    6. Sun/Moon
    okay no as long as team skull hau'oli city the aether foundation and kahunas exist SuMo factually cannot be in the meh tier

    other tracks that are good: malie city, nanu's theme, po town, lillie's theme, gladion's battle theme, the elite four battle theme
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mastersuperfan on August 02, 2017, 07:51:44 PM
    Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 02, 2017, 08:54:17 AMIf your question is "are you hoping to cause a big discussion and argument" the answer is yes

    God, he knew exactly what he was doing with this
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: DocDoom2 on August 02, 2017, 08:01:26 PM
    Quote from: Nebbles on August 02, 2017, 07:18:56 PMmsf and i are gonna cry alone in our "gen 5 was great" corner

    I'll join you in that corner if you have room
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on August 02, 2017, 08:01:44 PM
    Quote from: Dudeman on August 02, 2017, 07:50:55 PMokay no as long as team skull hau'oli city the aether foundation and kahunas exist SuMo factually cannot be in the meh tier

    other tracks that are good: malie city, nanu's theme, po town, lillie's theme, gladion's battle theme, the elite four battle theme
    Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on February 12, 2017, 02:40:54 PMHaving beaten the main story, I can say that I felt rather lukewarm toward most of the game's music; perhaps a little more positive than X/Y, but still not the same way as most of the older games in the series. One of the few town themes that really stood out to me, though, was Seafolk Village. Likewise, I wasn't really a fan of most of the battle themes (it says something when I like the kazoo version of Guzma's battle theme more than the original—it's a fine composition by itself, but the instruments used, IMO, don't do it much justice, as they don't bring out the parts that have the most "OOMPH" for what should be an intense battle? Or something like that), with the exception of the Elite Four battle theme and the Ultra Beast battle theme (Kahuna, Totem, and Tapu battles are second favorites, I'd say). I completely agree about the Solgaleo/Lunala battle theme though: it starts out with SO MUCH POTENTIAL, but past the 30 second mark, it just kinda fizzles and goes nowhere.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on August 02, 2017, 08:02:33 PM
    ;o; we have another gen 5 fan here folks
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dekkadeci on August 02, 2017, 08:03:25 PM
    Quote from: Dudeman on August 02, 2017, 07:50:55 PMokay no as long as team skull hau'oli city the aether foundation and kahunas exist SuMo factually cannot be in the meh tier

    other tracks that are good: malie city, nanu's theme, po town, lillie's theme, gladion's battle theme, the elite four battle theme
    From the point of view of someone who's only ever played Pokemon Diamond (and Pokemon Showdown), I find the Team Skull theme grating, the Kahuna theme too positive, and the Aether Foundation themes unmemorable.

    I mainly find Gladion's battle theme hilarious because it sounds like a jazz ballad if you remove the accompaniment. I have to admit that I'm singing that jazz ballad melody more often, though, and with more rubato than the original.

    I can't really comment on the others--in fact, I'm still trying to find that bluegrass hoedown BGM song I liked in those SuMo leak YouTube videos.

    The SuMo Elite Four theme is among the best of the Elite Four themes, I'll grant you that. I like it more than BW's, and it's definitely better than DPPt's (which I still don't remember, despite beating them and Cynthia several times).
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mastersuperfan on August 02, 2017, 08:05:07 PM
    I'll just leave this here then, I suppose:

    GOD TIER - Generations with amazing soundtracks that are memorable as a whole, with quite a few tracks that stand out as being particularly awesome:
    1) Gen 5
    2) Gen 3
    3) Gen 7

    DECENT TIER - Generations with good soundtracks with a sufficient number of good tracks, but other city/route/battle themes are forgettable, fall short, and don't make much of an impression:
    4) Gen 2
    5) Gen 4
    6) Gen 1

    CRAP TIER - Generations with entirely forgettable soundtracks and few memorable tracks:
    7) Gen 6

    I hope we can all agree with Gen 6's placement, at least.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: DocDoom2 on August 02, 2017, 08:08:50 PM
    Quote from: Nebbles on August 02, 2017, 08:02:33 PM;o; we have another gen 5 fan here folks
    I mean, I might be blinded by 'nostalgia' (if you can call it that since it was only 4 years ago or so) because Black 2 was my first game. Plus I got a pig that ended up evolving into a giant fiery boar
    But honestly there's no way to rank the different gens since they all have things going for them and things going against them as well as the fact that everyone has their own experiences and opinions on the games.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on August 02, 2017, 08:15:40 PM
    Quote from: Dekkadeci on August 02, 2017, 08:03:25 PMI can't really comment on the others--in fact, I'm still trying to find that bluegrass hoedown BGM song I liked in those SuMo leak YouTube videos.
    Possibly Paniola Town? That's the only place I can think of with a bluegrass vibe, but both the Paniola day and night themes are pretty meh for me.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mastersuperfan on August 02, 2017, 08:19:24 PM
    Quote from: Dudeman on August 02, 2017, 08:15:40 PMPossibly Paniola Town? That's the only place I can think of with a bluegrass vibe, but both the Paniola day and night themes are pretty meh for me.

    Love the day theme, don't like the night theme.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on August 02, 2017, 08:26:15 PM
    Wait I thought we all adored gen 5 here? When did it become cool to hate gen 5 again :(
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on August 02, 2017, 08:30:28 PM
    I don't hate gen 5, I just think it has flaws

    like every other game
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on August 02, 2017, 08:31:45 PM
    This is unrelated but another SM track I love is Heahea City. Both versions are great, I guess the night one is a little more my favorite.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on August 02, 2017, 08:35:17 PM
    Quote from: Nebbles on August 02, 2017, 08:02:33 PM;o; we have another gen 5 fan here folks
    Personally, I think Gen 5 is the best gen (especially the sprites; almost makes me sad they moved to models), though it's not my favorite.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on August 02, 2017, 08:37:47 PM
    Instant memorability plays a big factor in game music for some people. I guess I haven't judged any music by that standard in a long time

    Oh another track I fucking love: Floaroma Town. Both versions again, probably the day version a bit more
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on August 02, 2017, 08:39:25 PM
    Quote from: Dudeman on August 02, 2017, 08:30:28 PMlike every other game
    except for one
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on August 02, 2017, 08:41:18 PM
    Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on August 02, 2017, 08:39:25 PMexcept for one

    the legend of zelda majora's mask
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Olimar12345 on August 02, 2017, 09:00:09 PM
    I can literally only remember the bike theme from gen 5. Its music was about as unmemorable as 6 and 7 (i.e. only having a few memorable tracks). Gen 1 and 2 have like complete ost's worth of music that everyone will continue to remember. Gen 4 is the hipster with many cool tracks like Jubilife, twin leaf, route 205, 206, 209, etc. (to name a few). Gen 3 is similar to this too, methinks.

    Also, gen 7 didn't have a bike so it was the first game to have no bike music, which is a huge blow because there isn't a bike theme that isn't insanely memorable to date.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on August 02, 2017, 09:05:47 PM
    Quote from: Olimar12345 on August 02, 2017, 09:00:09 PMI can literally only remember the bike theme to gen 5.
    skyarrow bridge though

    why not skyarrow bridge
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mastersuperfan on August 02, 2017, 09:06:23 PM
    SKYARROW BRIIIIIIIIIIIIIDGE
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Olimar12345 on August 02, 2017, 09:08:40 PM
    I would literally have to look it up.

    I beat black twice, too.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on August 02, 2017, 09:10:33 PM
    yeah but olimar that's nothing new with you

    you can't even apparently remember any skyward sword songs either
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Olimar12345 on August 02, 2017, 09:10:58 PM
    Also can we take a moment to admire gen 4's Pokémon Legue music? Like holy shit what a change of pace from all previous games.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Olimar12345 on August 02, 2017, 09:11:37 PM
    Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on August 02, 2017, 09:10:33 PMyeah but olimar that's nothing new with you

    you can't even apparently remember any skyward sword songs either

    Not true, I've arranged like four.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on August 02, 2017, 09:15:14 PM
    Skyarrow Bridge is where Gen 5 really starts to pick up (and makes you hate HGSS even more for what they aren't)! How do you not remember that wonderful music!? :'(
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Olimar12345 on August 02, 2017, 09:17:50 PM
    Probably because I was on my bike.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mastersuperfan on August 02, 2017, 09:18:51 PM
    I'm pretty sure the bike music doesn't trigger if you get on your bike on Skyarrow Bridge. Just sayin'.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Olimar12345 on August 02, 2017, 09:20:00 PM
    I was referencing my post from the previous page.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on August 02, 2017, 09:31:19 PM
    Why does immediate memorability matter so much lol I'd rather have music that sounds fresh every time you hear it
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dekkadeci on August 02, 2017, 09:42:03 PM
    Quote from: Dudeman on August 02, 2017, 08:15:40 PMPossibly Paniola Town? That's the only place I can think of with a bluegrass vibe, but both the Paniola day and night themes are pretty meh for me.
    Listened to it. Neither theme is it. Listened to a bunch more themes trying to find my elusive "bluegrass hoedown" theme.

    The closest I'm getting to the music I remember is Hau's battle theme, but I thought I heard a banjo in the "bluegrass hoedown" theme. Hau's battle theme's first key sounds about right, though.

    Well, frick, if it was Hau's battle theme I remembered, and I'm mistaking it for a lively town/route theme, either Hau really treats every battle like it's fun instead of pivotal or his battle theme is really inappropriate...

    EDIT: Trying to skip hard through the entire Pokemon Sun and Moon OST right now--Island Festival and Festival Plaza music were sort of close, but the closest matches I'm getting right now might actually be the Trial Start! theme or the Poke Ride theme.

    And the Mixing Ingredients theme is the first one so far to bring an immediate smile to my face and make me not skip through it, even though it's definitely not a "bluegrass hoedown" theme! I'm probably putting a like on this theme (for once).

    For some reason, the Victory Road theme was giving me huge William Joseph (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Joseph_(musician)) vibes. Aha, I think it was specifically the G minor march-like section and its piano-heavy passage, which would fit...

    ...Ah, the Festival Plaza Event Day theme is pretty good and enthusiastic, too.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on August 02, 2017, 09:49:35 PM
    hau really treats every battle like it's fun
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on August 02, 2017, 09:52:43 PM
    Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on August 02, 2017, 09:49:35 PMhau
    Old, tired joke
    (https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/bionicle/images/b/bb/Hau3.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20081217211642)
    [close]
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on August 02, 2017, 09:53:51 PM
    @Dekkadeci -- almost positive it'll be "Ride Pokémon (Land)"
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on August 02, 2017, 10:10:32 PM
    Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on August 02, 2017, 09:52:43 PM
    Old, tired joke
    (https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/bionicle/images/b/bb/Hau3.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20081217211642)
    [close]
    Newer, but still tired joke
    Bionicle G2
    [close]
    Quote from: Dekkadeci on August 02, 2017, 09:42:03 PMWell, frick, if it was Hau's battle theme I remembered, and I'm mistaking it for a lively town/route theme, either Hau really treats every battle like it's fun
    there you have it
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on August 02, 2017, 10:15:00 PM
    Quote from: Dudeman on August 02, 2017, 10:10:32 PM
    Newer, but still tired joke
    Bionicle G2
    [close]
    it hurts
    the pain is still fresh
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Echo on August 02, 2017, 10:17:24 PM
    My tier list:
    - Gen 1/2/4/5/6 (amazing bike themes)
    - Gen 3 (meh bike theme)
    - Gen 7 (no bike theme)
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Olimar12345 on August 02, 2017, 10:20:45 PM
    Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 02, 2017, 09:31:19 PMWhy does immediate memorability matter so much lol I'd rather have music that sounds fresh every time you hear it

    What does this even mean? Leaving someone with a lasting impression is kind of important when having a discussion about favorite things. Why would something being forgettable be a positive thing?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mastersuperfan on August 02, 2017, 10:23:39 PM
    Let's rank bike themes:

    1) Gen 5

    (insert big gap here)

    2) Gen 6
    3) Gen 4
    4) Gen 3
    5) Gen 2
    6) Gen 1
    7) Gen 7 (if you count that... "thing"... as a bike, the music still sucks tho)
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on August 02, 2017, 10:25:42 PM
    Quote from: mastersuperfan on August 02, 2017, 10:23:39 PM(if you count that... "thing"... as a bike
    IT HAS A NAME, DAMMIT
    [sobs uncontrollably]
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Olimar12345 on August 02, 2017, 10:31:52 PM
    Shiiiit bike themes... let's see:

    1) gen 6
    2) gen 4 (daht B section)
    3) gen 1
    4) gen 2
    5) gen 5
    6) gen 3

    These are all super narrow though I love them all.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Echo on August 02, 2017, 10:38:38 PM
    When it comes to bike themes:
    - Gen 5 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmndQzpHg1I) (god-tier music, but I'm biased because I'd say that almost anything Gen 5 related is the best)
    - Gen 4 (I've never played the Sinnoh games, but this is probably the, I dunno, most sophisticated and appreciable bike music to me)
    - Gen 6 (catchy as shit)
    - Gen 1 (always makes me smile)
    - Gen 2 (it's cool that it's a remix of Goldenrod, but that's about it)
    - Gen 3 (I just don't like it, doesn't seem fitting for either bike. wish they made different bike themes for each bike)
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on August 02, 2017, 11:07:54 PM
    Ahhh I think gen III is my favorite bike theme along with IV

    Also I don't believe I ever said "forgettable," I meant an entirely different connotation
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on August 02, 2017, 11:08:44 PM
    Oooh, hm...

    -Gen 3
    -Gen 4
    -Gen 5
    -Gen 1
    -Gen 2
    -Gen 6 (lol i don't even recall it)
    -Gen 7 (not a bike)
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: AmpharosAndy on August 03, 2017, 01:01:05 AM
    It at least seems we've agreed on

    1-5. The others

    6. Gen 1
    7. Gen 6

    Dreamyard from BW is my top track in any game. Gen 5 is ma fav
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on August 03, 2017, 09:26:20 AM
    this thread got too big but my belief as to why gen 5 is the best is because i think it represented the perfect balance of decent gameplay options relative to how late in the series was.

    lemme explain: it's been suggested, and if you pay attention you'll prolly see how this is true, that game freak intentionally removes positive qualities from games when they further a gen in order to be able to re-introduce those qualities to much acclaim. for instance, hgss had an amazing assortment of touch screen options. gen 5 removed those. gen 6 reintroduced a lot of touch screen functionality. gen 7 removed it.

    or: hgss and gen 5 had amazing postgames. xy didnt have much. oras had a decent amount. gen 7 had very little.

    ... stuff like that. not to mention, the games in general tend to have gimmicks that they hock which inevitably are shafted for the next game. gen 4 had gender differences and the underground. gen 5 had hidden abilities. gen 6 had mega evos.

    it is my belief that gen 5 has overall the best assortment of positive functionality (e.g. the things removed from hgss to go into gen 5 were less painful compared with other gen switches) and therefore is the superior gen.

    of course that doesnt mean i dont have problems with it, mostly the way it wont shut the fuck up about internet functionality when i cant use that anymore, which is why its not my FAVORITE game/gen. (My favorite game is HGSS prolly.) But it is superior in most gameplay elements to HGSS imo
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Olimar12345 on August 03, 2017, 10:01:09 AM
    Some of those seem more coincidental than intentional, as well as circumstantial. Also, just in general these things seem more like the icing and sprinkles on the cake rather than the cake itself if you know what I mean.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dekkadeci on August 03, 2017, 10:28:56 AM
    Quote from: Olimar12345 on August 03, 2017, 10:01:09 AMSome of those seem more coincidental than intentional, as well as circumstantial. Also, just in general these things seem more like the icing and sprinkles on the cake rather than the cake itself if you know what I mean.
    I think I've read that Gen 7 has skipped Triple Battles (so far) due to game lag issues (that didn't get entirely fixed, FWIW).

    Gen 5's Hidden Abilities haven't been shafted, IMO. All generations since needed to put them on Pokemon, and they didn't keep pulling the-hidden-ability-matches-a-default-one in the newer generations, so props to them. (Though where is my Telepathy Tapu Fini and my Long Reach Decidueye...distributing 'mons with Hidden Abilities is another matter...)

    Gen 6's Megas definitely got shafted, though. I thought I read somewhere that, as much as the fans love Mega Evolution, Game Freak thought it unbalanced combat and made the Mega 'mons too powerful. Thus the switch to (over?-)emphasizing Z-Moves in Gen 7. In fact, Gen 7 is shafting Megas so hard that it's put insults in Mega Evolutions' Pokedex entries (calling some of them "bloodthirsty" and "heartless"), seemingly bringing up an Alolan prejudice against the morality of Mega Evolution.

    I have a feeling that Z-Moves will be shafted a la Megas in Gen 8. I'm reading debates in Other Metas that some of them are trying to get Z-Moves banned within them, citing their ability to break games. Game Freak actually seems to test their Pokemon Balanced Hackmons (http://www.smogon.com/dex/sm/formats/bh/)-style (thus Komala the Comatose with Sleep Talk getting no phazing moves and Pyukumuku the Innards Out having low base HP, and Balanced Hackmons and Almost Any Ability (http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/almost-any-ability.3587901/) banning Innards Out and Comatose-Sleep Talk after finding those aspects really problematic on better Pokemon with better movepools), so I suspect they're listening to those complaints.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on August 03, 2017, 11:47:27 AM
    Quote from: Olimar12345 on August 03, 2017, 10:01:09 AMSome of those seem more coincidental than intentional, as well as circumstantial. Also, just in general these things seem more like the icing and sprinkles on the cake rather than the cake itself if you know what I mean.

    Still I believe the cake itself is good, I was just explaining why I feel gen 5 has the best balance of things
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Olimar12345 on August 03, 2017, 12:02:21 PM
    But my point was that small technical things =/= greatest game evar. Hence the icing analogy. My question was why you think that this cake is better than the other cakes.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on August 03, 2017, 12:56:34 PM
    >pretty much every pokemon it offers is usable to some degree, more so than other gens. This applies to both bw and bw2
    >extremely sizable and relevant postgame that offers a lot to do
    >personal opinion but I liked the fact that they did what they did with only unova pokemon in bw, it really forced you to pay attention to what new mons were instead of reusing old favorites
    >triple and rotation battles were good
    >lots of side areas to explore that were unnecessary for beating the game but had nice rewards if you found and explored them. This is a trait that I felt dpp lacked and gen 6 had a fair bit less of
    >i quite enjoyed the soundtrack
    >you didn't need a single HM to beat the game except for Cut one time to get into the Dreamyard which is easy enough to put on some rando early game pokemon
    >challenging E4 + final boss
    >the experience mechanic was an excellent innovation that forced challenge on the game
    >i genuinely enjoyed and admired the graphics tbh lol
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on August 03, 2017, 01:39:39 PM
    Quote from: Altissimo on August 03, 2017, 12:56:34 PM>pretty much every pokemon it offers is usable to some degree, more so than other gens. This applies to both bw and bw2
    >extremely sizable and relevant postgame that offers a lot to do
    >personal opinion but I liked the fact that they did what they did with only unova pokemon in bw, it really forced you to pay attention to what new mons were instead of reusing old favorites
    >triple and rotation battles were good
    >lots of side areas to explore that were unnecessary for beating the game but had nice rewards if you found and explored them. This is a trait that I felt dpp lacked and gen 6 had a fair bit less of
    >i quite enjoyed the soundtrack
    >you didn't need a single HM to beat the game except for Cut one time to get into the Dreamyard which is easy enough to put on some rando early game pokemon
    >challenging E4 + final boss
    >the experience mechanic was an excellent innovation that forced challenge on the game
    >i genuinely enjoyed and admired the graphics tbh lol

    bless you
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Trainer Ave on August 03, 2017, 04:33:20 PM
    I don't hate the entirety of gen 5, just most of the newer Pokemon, the first Black and White, and the fact that there are no good ways to shiny hunt other than Masuda breeding.
    When it comes to the games gen 3 is the worst (RSE).
    Reasons: Day night cycle is removed.
    Nearly Impossible to complete national dex (which is caused by the next reason. i say nearly because 3rd party software makes it possible)
    No backwards comparability for gen 2 games.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on August 03, 2017, 04:34:58 PM
    Oddly enough, Gen 3 is where I came closest to completing the National Dex.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on August 03, 2017, 04:54:21 PM
    Quote from: BoywithoutaFairy on August 03, 2017, 04:33:20 PMReasons: Day night cycle is removed.
    This is a big problem because...why?
    QuoteNearly Impossible to complete national dex
    No backwards comparability for gen 2 games.
    I will agree this is a problem, BUT that's got nothing to do with how Gen 3's games actually play. Also:
    Quote(i say nearly because 3rd party software makes it possible)
    lol 3rd party software makes anything possible in any game
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on August 03, 2017, 04:59:34 PM
    Quote from: Dudeman on August 03, 2017, 04:54:21 PMThis is a big problem because...why?
    It makes the game a lot more dull, that's for sure.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on August 03, 2017, 05:02:18 PM
    Well sure, but Gen 1 lacked a day/night cycle and I doubt anyone considers them inherently lesser games for that reason alone. it's all the other stuff really
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on August 03, 2017, 05:04:46 PM
    There's kind of a big difference between Gen 1 and Gen 3 graphics-wise...

    Plus, it was taking a pretty big step backwards from Gen 2.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on August 03, 2017, 05:06:03 PM
    Well, aside from a day/night cycle being "cool," what does it really contribute? I don't think Gen 3 actually suffers just because it doesn't have it. It's like the icing vs. cake thing Olimar brought up earlier.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on August 03, 2017, 05:08:55 PM
    how was the day/night cycle removed from RSE?

    There were multiple pokemon that evolved depending on day or night
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on August 03, 2017, 05:10:19 PM
    That's only based on the system clock though; there was no graphical difference in the overworld appearance.
    Here's Bulbapedia's section on Gen 3's time stuff. (https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Time#Generation_III)
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on August 03, 2017, 05:12:56 PM
    Quote from: Dudeman on August 03, 2017, 05:06:03 PMWell, aside from a day/night cycle being "cool," what does it really contribute? I don't think Gen 3 actually suffers just because it doesn't have it. It's like the icing vs. cake thing Olimar brought up earlier.
    Aside from visual indication of the time and graphical improvement, it's also much more immersive and contributes to certain mechanics, like being able to find certain Pokemon at certain times. It's one of those things that makes you question why the felt a need to remove it.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mastersuperfan on August 03, 2017, 05:36:42 PM
    I just realized it was missing now that you've mentioned it O.o

    Case in point, it didn't make much of a difference. The only thing that mattered was that time-based evolutions still worked...
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on August 03, 2017, 05:40:43 PM
    Of course, if you were like young me and didn't yet understand the effects of the time system and the repercussions of just randomly setting the clock...
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on August 03, 2017, 05:50:27 PM
    Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on August 03, 2017, 05:12:56 PMAside from visual indication of the time and graphical improvement, it's also much more immersive and contributes to certain mechanics, like being able to find certain Pokemon at certain times. It's one of those things that makes you question why the felt a need to remove it.

    except the only gens that really bothered with time of day as a factor in pokemon encountering were 2 and 4
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on August 03, 2017, 05:59:46 PM
    Quote from: Altissimo on August 03, 2017, 05:50:27 PMexcept the only gens that really bothered with time of day as a factor in pokemon encountering were 2 and 4
    that was an example

    Also, this page (https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Time#Time-specific_events) goes more into depth about stuff affected by time, in all generations. Plus, in terms of Pokemon availability, Gen 5 concerned itself much more with seasonal Pokemon changes.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on August 03, 2017, 06:33:59 PM
    just my 2 cents, I really dislike time based stuff

    "I HAVE TO STAY UP TILL 3 AM TO CATCH THIS ROTOM" nah
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on August 03, 2017, 07:03:21 PM
    Quote from: Altissimo on August 03, 2017, 05:50:27 PMexcept the only gens that really bothered with time of day as a factor in pokemon encountering were 2 and 4

    Also 7, but I liked when it varied based on morning, day, and night, rather than just simple day and night.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Trainer Ave on August 03, 2017, 07:06:46 PM
    Quote from: Altissimo on August 03, 2017, 05:50:27 PMexcept the only gens that really bothered with time of day as a factor in pokemon encountering were 2 and 4
    And these are easily the best 2 generations.
    Reasons:
    Gen 4 brought us the first female champion. Not only was she a boss but she is considered by many to be one of the hardest fights in the entire franchise. Not only that but she was constantly involved in the story as well, going so far as to travel into another dimension with the protagonist.
    These games easily have the best soundtracks.
    The rival in Gen II is probably the best rival in any Pokemon game and isn't just some flat character GameFreak created just so there would be a rival in the game.
    Gen II introduced day night cycle
    Gen II introduced shiny Pokemon
    Gen II introduced the dark and steel Pokemon types
    Gen II introduced breeding
    Gen II introduced Lugia (my favorite legendary)
    Gen IV refined breeding and made it better
    Gen IV introduced WiFi multiplayer to the Pokemon series which not only made it easier to actually battle other players but also made trade evolutions more accessible.
    Gen IV introduced the physical/special split.
    Gen IV gave us background information on how the Pokemon universe came into being
    The TCG in Gen IV got a massive improvement
    Lucario and the Mystery of Mew is the best Pokemon movie ever. (Fight me)
    Pokemon Mystery Dungeon 2 are unquestionably the best PMD games.
    I think (and im probably wrong on this one) Gen IV introduced storing Pokemon outside of the game cartridge itself.
    There are a lot of other pros to the gen II and gen IV games but these were the only ones i could think of off the top of my head.

    I ripped on gen 3 a bit so ill amend it by giving some positives.
    Abilities were introduced
    Natures were introduced
    Event Pokemon became more accessible
    First remakes were introduced
    There's probably more but this is all i can think of right now.


    Anyway my tier list for Pokemon gens
    1. Gen IV
    2. Gen II
    3. Gen VI
    4. Gen I
    5. Gen VII
    6. Gen V
    7. Gen III
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on August 03, 2017, 07:17:17 PM
    there's a difference between being involved in the story and being shoehorned into the story

    steven was involved in the story, Cynthia was there for no reason
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mastersuperfan on August 03, 2017, 07:19:45 PM
    Quote from: BoywithoutaFairy on August 03, 2017, 07:06:46 PMGen 4 brought us the first female champion. Not only was she a boss but she is considered by many to be one of the hardest fights in the entire franchise.

    Iris > Cynthia, fite me m8

    For the record, I one-/two-shot all of Cynthia's 'mons with an overleveled Torterra in my solo run when I was 6 years old and had no idea how the game worked. But Iris puts up a good challenge every time I play B2W2, even now.

    Oh, Iris also has the best champion theme too YES I SAID THAT I SAID THAT COME AT ME BRO actually wait let's rank Champion themes now because I'm bored:

    1) B2W2
    2) FRLG (this is the only remix with a big enough improvement that I'm bothering to separate it from the original)
    3) GSC/HGSS
    4) DPPt
    5) SM
    6) XY
    7) RBY (the FRLG remix made it sooo much better IMO, this version feels kind of empty to me)
    8} RSE/ORAS
    9) BW
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on August 03, 2017, 07:32:02 PM
    RBY is the only good one everything else was bad
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on August 03, 2017, 07:40:08 PM
    Ohhh champion themes nice

    1. B2W2
    2. XY
    3. RB
    4. DP
    5. GS
    6. BW
    7. RS
    8. SM
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on August 03, 2017, 08:25:42 PM
    ...actually, my list is pretty much on par with Slow's.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on August 03, 2017, 08:31:36 PM
    1. RBY
    2. Everything else I don't remember any of them
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on August 03, 2017, 08:33:40 PM
    Quote from: Altissimo on August 03, 2017, 08:31:36 PM1. RBY
    2. Everything else I don't remember any of them
    high five
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on August 03, 2017, 08:41:29 PM
    Quote from: Nebbles on August 03, 2017, 08:25:42 PM...actually, my list is pretty much on par with Slow's.

    this made my heart soar LOL

    Also MSF, any reason BW is your least favorite? It's not as tuneful or spunky as some of the others, but I always love the fun 6/8 feel. Also the intro bars are killer and that low brass theme that kind of takes command at 0:28 is so much fun. I feel like it's a good fit for Alder.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on August 03, 2017, 08:43:42 PM
    Unrelated, but I was thinking about Silvally, and how it's literally PU tier right now (lol), and then, I was thinking about how to possibly make it better.
    1. This would be a first for the Pokemon series, but add a certain location where you can alter Silvally's base stats, allowing you to increase or decrease each of its stats by up to 25 each, the only stipulation being that its BST has to be 570 by the time you're done.
    2. Buff Multi-Attack to 100 base power, and have it change to Physical/Special based on which is Silvally's highest attacking stat. This would give Silvally a bit more "OOMPH" and give you a reason to use Multi-Attack instead of a similar move of the same type.
    3. Make the Memories actually do something except be items to hold to change type (e.g. Electric Memory gives Multi-Attack a 15% chance to paralyze, Ghost Memory gives Multi-Attack a 15% chance to flinch, and so on).

    Silvally is such a versatile and fascinating Pokemon; shame that right now, it's not exactly the best, or even very good. :<
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on August 03, 2017, 08:45:12 PM
    I think I'd rank G/S a little higher imo but yeah

    ...Silvally makes me sad. I kinda wish it was more relevant instead of it being like, a discount Arceus.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on August 03, 2017, 08:48:49 PM
    Quote from: Nebbles on August 03, 2017, 08:45:12 PM...Silvally makes me sad. I kinda wish it was more relevant instead of it being like, a discount Arceus.
    It seems like every time they try to make a "discount" Pokemon, it ends up being terrible (coughphionecough).
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mastersuperfan on August 03, 2017, 08:49:06 PM
    I like them all, but my lack of love for BW's champion theme mainly stems from the lack of an interesting melody. I like the feel of the track itself, but it's just not so memorable with a captivating melody, especially since some of it is just dotted quarters one after another.

    Although, upon further thought, I may be inclined to move it ahead of RSE/ORAS. That one just felt bland to me, honestly--it feels too much like the Gym Leader theme (which I'm not a big fan of), just faster and with the notes switched around. A lot of RSE battle themes actually sound very similar to me, so the ones that are distinct are the ones that are memorable, such as the Rival, Elite Four, or Archie/Maxie battle themes. IMO, the Champion theme wasn't one of them.

    EDIT: Woah I just got triple-ninja'd
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on August 03, 2017, 08:56:29 PM
    best rival themes let's go

    RSE

    everything else
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on August 03, 2017, 08:59:12 PM
    I'm really fond of RSE and the Gen 5 rival themes the most.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Latios212 on August 03, 2017, 09:17:53 PM
    Gen 7 with Hau and Gladion!

    Then Gen 2.

    Then all the rest.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: DocDoom2 on August 03, 2017, 09:23:45 PM
    Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on August 03, 2017, 08:56:29 PMbest rival themes let's go

    RSE

    everything else
    Rival themes...
    I'm assuming you mean battle themes and not encounter themes so I'd say

    1. May/Brendan's
    2. Gladion's
    3. Hugh's
    4. Silver's
    5. Barry's
    6. Hau's
    7. Kalos rivals whose names I can't remember...
    8. Cheren/Bianca (Yes, Gen 6 isn't last for once)

    On a separate note, I don't think this thread has ever gotten this much attention in such a short timespan (At least as long as I've been here)



    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on August 03, 2017, 09:25:22 PM
    http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=9540.0

    go wild people \o/
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on August 03, 2017, 11:17:41 PM
    @MSF the trainer, gym leader, and champion battle tracks in RS all use variations on a similar theme intentionally. Still, doesn't help them stand out from one another, though I like how intense the ORAS version of Steven's battle is.

    @rival battle tracks

    1. Hau
    2. May/Brendan
    3. Cheren/Bianca
    4. Hugh
    5. Friend (XY)
    6. Rival (DP)
    7. Rival (GS)

    Guess it's clear from this that I generally like the more playful rival themes better
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: AmpharosAndy on August 04, 2017, 12:24:55 AM
    Silver and Hugh surely m8

    I hated the rivals in XY but the music was catchy
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: WaluigiTime64 on August 04, 2017, 01:47:59 AM
    Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 02, 2017, 08:54:17 AMIf your question is "are you hoping to cause a big discussion and argument" the answer is yes
    Considering I struggled to even find this post (especially considering I didn't even know it existed) you succeeded.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Echo on August 04, 2017, 02:20:32 AM
    Quote from: Olimar12345 on August 03, 2017, 12:02:21 PMBut my point was that small technical things =/= greatest game evar. Hence the icing analogy. My question was why you think that this cake is better than the other cakes.

    Number 1 reason Gen 5 was the best:
    - Itemfinder on the bottom screen

    Second reason here (very tl;dr, Team Plasma was the best villain team)
    Spoiler
    My reason for liking Gen 5 the most is because of the premise and the antagonists. The main thing that captivates me in most stories is the antagonist, and I think Team Plasma was handled the best so far (not counting Sinnoh games because I never finished them, like I said). They're cheesy for sure, but you could actually see them progress as a threat to be on par with the protagonist.

    Compare to the previous gens for example. In Gen 1, Team Rocket and Blue were built up throughout the story, but you couldn't take them too seriously at the end because, well, you already took down Blue and the Boss plenty of times by the time you got to their "endgame" fights. Gen 2's even worse, because your Rival never amounted to anything the whole time, and Team Rocket was just a bunch of babies crying back for Giovanni. In Gen 3, the problem was that it didn't feel like Team Aqua/Magma was really doing anything because you stopped them by yourself almost every time they tried anything, and their plan's stupidity bites them back by the end of it. In a nutshell, the status quo was that the villains were always a joke that you curbstomped.

    With Team Plasma though, you might've been able to stop them handily and beat N easily at the start of the game, but throughout the rest of your encounters, they actually come close to causing meaningful harm like stealing your friend's Pokemon, and you do actually need the help of your friends and the Gym Leaders to chase them away at times.

    N's interesting compared to the other Team Leaders because he's more of a rival, so you see him actively getting stronger to challenge and surpass you. He goes from being a random stranger that you take down like anyone else, to someone who sweeps up a legendary Pokemon, and then even crushes the Champion right in front of your face. Team Plasma as a whole end up coming close in their goal of actually convincing people to question whether they should keep their Pokemon, making them much more successful than most other teams, and they show that they're a real threat when they take over the League itself. Like I said, you see progression in how competent they are, since they require all your friends and top-level trainers like the Gym Leaders to help stop, unlike the other teams that actually get solo'd by some random 11-year old. They do things right with Ghetsis too, since there's still buildup with numerous encounters with him, but unlike the other big bads, he's not a joke to take down since you never actually fight him before (also that darn Hydreigon).

    Similar points hold true for Black 2/White 2, only replace N with Colress pretty much. There are actually a couple of times you actually fail against Team Plasma, and you straight up would've died at one point if it weren't for N.

    Overall, they're the only team I took seriously, and it's really refreshing with the theme of your rivals and enemies getting stronger alongside you. Most of the other games were about being guided by a mentor like Lance/Steven/Cynthia/Kukui, and there still is a figure like that in Alder, but what kept it fresh was that the end game was about facing ambitious, up and coming trainers seeking to prove themselves just like you (N and Iris).
    [close]

    Other reasons here:
    - This is probably not a popular opinion, but the seasons gimmick was one of the best features. Really added to the longevity of the game because it created more meaningful changes to the environment, unlike just the Day/Night system. You could take a long break from the game, come back, and then find tons of new things to discover and explore.
    - Aesthetically, the animated sprites gave the Pokemon the most character
    - In general, all the humans got more character, like with the Gym Leaders being more involved in scenarios. The protagonists actually seem to get more personality to them, what with stuff like the Ferris Wheel dates or PokeStar Studios.
    - Pokemon World Tournament is the best post-game facility, making hype for both casual fans and competitive players at once. You've got all the nostalgic characters returning, as well as cool stuff like being able to play against teams from real-life champions. The Tournament Finals is one of the best battle music tracks too

    All these things made Gen 5 stand out as the most "alive" to me.

    Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on August 03, 2017, 08:43:42 PMSilvally is such a versatile and fascinating Pokemon; shame that right now, it's not exactly the best, or even very good. :<

    I actually don't think Silvally's not viable, the whole Parting Shot/Thunder Wave + any coverage you want isn't anything to write off. Not to mention the move tutors the Ultra games might bring. The only thing that I really wish was different would be that Silvally's ability should've worked off of Z-Crystals instead, so that Silvally's type and Multi-Attack changes based on the Z-Crystal held so that you can use any Z-Move you want effectively.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on August 04, 2017, 05:02:40 AM
    Quote from: Echo on August 04, 2017, 02:20:32 AMI actually don't think Silvally's not viable, the whole Parting Shot/Thunder Wave + any coverage you want isn't anything to write off. Not to mention the move tutors the Ultra games might bring. The only thing that I really wish was different would be that Silvally's ability should've worked off of Z-Crystals instead, so that Silvally's type and Multi-Attack changes based on the Z-Crystal held so that you can use any Z-Move you want effectively.
    Except it's solidly in PU right now, the lowest tier. While Parting Shot is pretty nice, overall, due to its "balanced-but-not-quite-good-enough" stats, there's usually a lot of other stuff that can take care of the roles it tries to fulfill, except better. I think the Silvally that people are tossing around right now is Silvally-Fairy, which I suppose does its role pretty well because Multi-Attack can become the most reliable physical Fairy-type move (and apparently because Malamar is good in PU). :P Or regular old Silvally, because you don't have to waste an item slot.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on August 04, 2017, 07:03:10 AM
    silvally isnt bad in battle tree so
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mastersuperfan on August 04, 2017, 08:05:06 AM
    Rival battle themes... let's see...

    GREAT TIER:
    1) May/Brendan (ORAS) (those DRUMS)
    2) Silver (HGSS)
    3) Hugh (B2W2)
    4) Hau (SM)

    GOOD TIER:
    5) Gladion (SM) (I love the intro but I do wish the middle part was a little more interesting)
    6) Cheren/Bianca (BW)
    7) Too many goddamn friends (XY)
    8} May/Brendan (RSE) (lol no drums)

    MEH TIER:
    9) Barry (DPPt)
    10) Silver (GSC) (ngl I can't get myself to like this version at all when compared to HGSS)
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Echo on August 04, 2017, 01:24:08 PM
    RSE Rival Battle > ORAS Rival Battle because of that jingle near the start
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on August 04, 2017, 01:27:33 PM
    Ooh, that really high 8-bit really fast C-D-E-F-G-G-F-E-F-E-D figure just before the main melody kicks in?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Echo on August 04, 2017, 01:43:17 PM
    ^ Yup. No way can I accept the ORAS version being the best when it doesn't even have the best part of the piece. :P

    Also, do you guys not count N and Wally as rivals or something?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on August 04, 2017, 03:02:22 PM
    Wally isn't a rival he's too wimpy
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on August 04, 2017, 03:03:53 PM
    everyone says that and you all forget the fucking ending of the game
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on August 04, 2017, 03:05:15 PM
    You mean like the end of victory road where he's easier than the ace trainers?
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mastersuperfan on August 04, 2017, 03:20:13 PM
    I would like Wally's battle theme but it loops in only like 35 seconds

    I count N more as an evil team leader than as a rival, tbh.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on August 04, 2017, 03:38:30 PM
    Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on August 04, 2017, 03:05:15 PMYou mean like the end of victory road where he's easier than the ace trainers?

    thats not the point but ok
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Nebbles on August 04, 2017, 04:08:42 PM
    Quote from: Altissimo on August 04, 2017, 03:03:53 PMeveryone says that and you all forget the fucking ending of the game

    wally defense squad let's go
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: mikey on August 04, 2017, 04:39:39 PM
    then what's the point
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Altissimo on August 04, 2017, 05:15:22 PM
    character development
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: DocDoom2 on August 04, 2017, 05:48:14 PM
    Quote from: Echo on August 04, 2017, 01:43:17 PMAlso, do you guys not count N and Wally as rivals or something?

    I honestly forgot about Wally, plus isn't his battle theme also considered his victory road encounter theme?
    And I always considered N more of an antagonist, perhaps a minor rival in B2W2.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: SlowPokemon on August 04, 2017, 07:44:17 PM
    Wally's battle music in ORAS is literally officially titled "Rival's Theme" I just didn't count it because I don't like the track much at all

    N I'd count with the evil teams category. His themes are really neat.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Trasdegi on August 06, 2017, 06:48:05 AM
    Did you saw the new lycanroc dusk form?
    (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fnintendoeverything.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Flycanroc-form.jpg&hash=66329ba04febc449589e3365ebeeac86bb06e65f)
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on May 31, 2018, 04:19:48 AM
    HOLY ARCEUS

    https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/8ngme5/the_spaceworld_1997_demo_for_pokemon_gold_was/

    https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/8ngme5/the_spaceworld_1997_demo_for_pokemon_gold_was/dzvc9sp/

    https://i.imgur.com/WPI3Udm.png

    https://i.imgur.com/yp1tcql.png

    https://i.imgur.com/F39y3x6.png

    https://i.redd.it/wos3q429lg111.png

    https://i.imgur.com/PGOUu5t.png

    https://tcrf.net/File:Pokemon_Silver_-_Spaceworld_1997_Demo_(Debug)_(Header_Fixed2).png

    THIS

    THIS IS HEAVY
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Olimar12345 on May 31, 2018, 07:02:39 AM
    Wow
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: Dudeman on May 31, 2018, 10:24:51 AM
    I'm dying Remoraid actually looks like a fucking gun
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: DocDoom2 on June 01, 2018, 09:18:54 AM
    I wish that beta Heracross/Pinsir evolution made it into the games, it's awesome!
    I suppose that could've been the inspiration behind Heracross' mega evolution.
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: AmpharosAndy on June 02, 2018, 10:32:26 AM
    why isn't quilfish's evolution real? I want it noawaowa    It looks life quilfish crossed with stunfisk :D
    Title: Re: General Pokémon
    Post by: E. Gadd Industries on June 02, 2018, 08:00:52 PM
    Okay but Octillery with a helmet, why is this not a th— WAIT IS THAT LEAFEON?!?!?!