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Title: Nintendo's realy going down the drain >__> and with VC too.
Post by: MetroidHunter26 on August 15, 2008, 07:27:33 PM
There has been no good games out in VC some in the WiiWare though so who agree's?
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Post by: kotorfanboy on August 15, 2008, 07:30:26 PM
When super mario rpg comes out then it will get better.
But the truth remains, the virtual console is eventually going to run out of good classic nintendo games to put on VC (I mean, there are only so many games), and at that point the VC will go down the drain. That time may be now because how many good games aren't on VC (that nintendo has no strings attached for, unlike rare games, ff IV and chrono)?
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Post by: acropol on August 15, 2008, 10:14:31 PM
I'm really disappointed in my Wii ever since I bought it on launch.. I only have 3 games, and there's none coming out that interest me either... maybe I'll get AC.. but I doubt it.. anyway.
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Post by: blah54 on August 16, 2008, 07:55:41 AM
well the wii's only real purpose unless you're just a wii sports addict... is for the nintendo first-party games, which there admittedly aren't that MANY of... if you bought a WII for third-party games, you clearly have no knowledge of the gaming industry lol...

that's the way it's been with nintendo consoles since the GCN, the only reason for the GCN and/or WII is for the first-party games... also the third-parties all generally ignore the nintendo consoles, or just put out games with little effort... recently nintendo's been encouraging more third-parties and maybe that will help it, but i'm inclined to think that it might not change the situation that much...

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Post by: Super Zombie on August 16, 2008, 09:31:13 AM
Yeah, my Wii's collecting dust. I'm going to get Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People and maybe Defend your Castle, but nothing else really interests me.
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Post by: The-Real-Link on August 16, 2008, 11:12:17 AM
There are going to be a few landmarks, but until then I'm not seeing anything amazing.

Super Mario RPG
Earthbound
Fire Emblem Imports
Tales of Symphonia 2
Final Fantasy:Crystal Bearers.

Those will be amazing releases. (Especially #1!!)
Title: Re: Nintendo's realy going down the drain >__> and with VC too.
Post by: Super Zombie on August 16, 2008, 11:37:39 AM
But who cares about VC much anyway, since it's just games you already have access to?
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Post by: Purple1222119 on August 16, 2008, 02:05:39 PM
Quote from: blah54 on August 16, 2008, 07:55:41 AMalso the third-parties all generally ignore the nintendo consoles,
or just put out games with little effort...



But the Guitar Hero 4 guys have really been putting in a lot of effort for DLC for the Wii and having better graphics... and stuff.
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Post by: Gooch on August 16, 2008, 02:38:43 PM
The Wii has failed my expectations. I had almost figured that by the time i had gotten bored of Brawl, a new game would be out the spend my time on. Sadly, that isn't so. The next thing that i know of coming out that might call my attention is Ghostbusters and Force Unleased. After that, i only have Animal Crossing that i know of. There's also Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles. There might be something, but im truly disappointed in my Wii thus far.
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Post by: pumpy_heart on August 16, 2008, 03:16:42 PM
And you guys forgot Prime 3. What a shame.
Honestly, I bought my Wii specifically for Prime 3. And I was not dissapointed. Brawl was pretty good as well.
Was it worth the 350 bucks combined? I think so actually.
Animal Crossing, a first party game, is coming. And it will not dissapoint.
And 3rd party games are coming. You nintendo fanboys forgot about The Counduit. Its a first person shooter built from the ground up for the wii. It rivals graphics of a 360 (mwhaha), effictively uses the wii mote, and has fully customizable controls.  It's going to be great.
Also, Guitar Hero 4 is not letting me down. With DLC coming, as well as the music maker, why would you have to buy guitar hero on another system anymore?
Pikmin 3 is on the way for all you guys wanting that...
As well as new Mario and Zelda games.
And I've only talked about E3 announcements. Think about the future Wii holds still.
Yes, I believe there should be more hardcore games, but I think if companies truly wanted to make a great hardcore game for wii and not just port one over, that game would be amazing.
Title: Re: Nintendo's realy going down the drain >__> and with VC too.
Post by: Gooch on August 16, 2008, 03:37:46 PM
yeah, there have been some good games, just not enough that make me want to play my Wii more often. If they were original Nintendo Games, well, they were up to par with what I expect. Sadly, there aren't that many true-blue Nintendo games and they games that aren't Pure-Nintendo just don't make the cut.
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Post by: Dekudude on August 16, 2008, 06:17:43 PM
I love Nintendo, but they've been doing a lot of stupid things.

Donkey Kong Jungle Beat? Seriously...


The Wii has potential, but they aren't making good use of it... oh well.
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Post by: Palagerini on August 17, 2008, 02:43:21 PM
yea my ps2 is getting more usage time than my wii.. and i have 3 games for it! metroid prime 3 was good... brawl was good (not that good though). mario galaxy was meh... (it felt more like super mario sunshine *expanded* edition..) . i have Loz TP for gamecube so i can't rate that.. (but it was real good). wario ware is fun.. cooking mama nevermind  :P. mario and sonic at the olypmic games sucked.. but yea.. there's not too many real good games for the wii... i'm waiting for Call of Duty: World at War (cause i'm a HUGE call of duty fan..) and Star Wars: The Force Unleashed (the star wars games are always cool to play..). honestly i play my ds more than both of them... the ds is really really cool. and compared to the wii.. the games make use of the wii more... the wii has alot of potential with internet and the unique controller... and their bringing back dumb games that everyone hates (atari sports..) and they havne't put some of their better ones yet... and that their really not focusing on their online or their core gamers at all... take for instance  MOH: Heroes 2. it is a great game but it's online sucks... there's alot of problems with it and isn't that fun... for instance u can't boot anyone... so team killers thrive... and how that some weapons either

1. don't act anything like how the real world war 2 weapons shot (mp40 was faster than the tommy..WTF?)
2. or that their just wayyy overpowered...(anti tank has HUGE blast radius..... shotgun can headshot a person across half the field..... they picked up the gewher 43 over the scoped kar98k when the americans got the springfield... seriously... that doesn't make sense at all...)

and what's sad is that nintendo has the ability to update their games with teh message board but doesn't... what stinks is that their still making money from the people who basically never play video games by making games that appeals to them (which is fine and all but lately that's all their doing..). i just hope Call of Duty: World at War is still M and just like the xbox 360 and ps3 versions and not just a rundown ps2 version.. otherwise...
Title: Re: Nintendo's realy going down the drain >__> and with VC too.
Post by: The-Real-Link on August 17, 2008, 02:47:08 PM
Quote from: pumpy_heart on August 16, 2008, 03:16:42 PMAnd you guys forgot Prime 3. What a shame.
Honestly, I bought my Wii specifically for Prime 3. And I was not dissapointed. Brawl was pretty good as well.
Was it worth the 350 bucks combined? I think so actually.
Animal Crossing, a first party game, is coming. And it will not dissapoint.
And 3rd party games are coming. You nintendo fanboys forgot about The Counduit. Its a first person shooter built from the ground up for the wii. It rivals graphics of a 360 (mwhaha), effictively uses the wii mote, and has fully customizable controls.  It's going to be great.
Also, Guitar Hero 4 is not letting me down. With DLC coming, as well as the music maker, why would you have to buy guitar hero on another system anymore?
Pikmin 3 is on the way for all you guys wanting that...
As well as new Mario and Zelda games.
And I've only talked about E3 announcements. Think about the future Wii holds still.
Yes, I believe there should be more hardcore games, but I think if companies truly wanted to make a great hardcore game for wii and not just port one over, that game would be amazing.
How could I forget Prime 3!!!! I have had it since release, and still have not 100% it! It's a massively amazing game!!!!! And of course Nintendo has plenty in the works. I can't wait to see how the new Zelda game will play out. (They announced that they were going to start working on one, but that's all they have said about, beside the fact that the sword control will be better than TP)
Title: Re: Nintendo's realy going down the drain >__> and with VC too.
Post by: UpperHand on August 18, 2008, 02:14:32 PM
I still need to pick up No More Heroes.

Otherwise -- it's mostly been Brawl/Guitar Hero at friend's houses and Metal Slug on my PSP. I'm just waiting for The Conduit, Animal Crossing, and Mega Man 9.

Oh, and maybe Red Steel 2, if Ubisoft is actually working on it.
Title: Re: Nintendo's realy going down the drain >__> and with VC too.
Post by: Gooch on August 18, 2008, 02:32:57 PM
why are they making 2? the first one sucked really badly!!!
Title: Re: Nintendo's realy going down the drain >__> and with VC too.
Post by: UpperHand on August 18, 2008, 02:56:42 PM
Quote from: Gooch on August 18, 2008, 02:32:57 PMwhy are they making 2? the first one sucked really badly!!!

Actually, I thought it was pretty cool.
Title: Re: Nintendo's realy going down the drain >__> and with VC too.
Post by: KefkaticFanatic on August 18, 2008, 07:01:07 PM
Quote from: pumpy_heart on August 16, 2008, 03:16:42 PMAnd you guys forgot Prime 3. What a shame.   Only 1st party that WASN'T a letdown other than Galaxy, which was only meh.
Honestly, I bought my Wii specifically for Prime 3. And I was not dissapointed. Brawl was pretty good as well.  Brawl isn't even as good as Melee.
Was it worth the 350 bucks combined? I think so actually.
Animal Crossing, a first party game, is coming. And it will not dissapoint.  Animal Crossing is too gimmicky, it gets old quick.
And 3rd party games are coming. You nintendo fanboys forgot about The Counduit. Its a first person shooter built from the ground up for the wii. It rivals graphics of a 360 (mwhaha), effictively uses the wii mote, and has fully customizable controls.  It's going to be great.  Rivals?  Yeah fucking right.  You probably don't even know what it means for a game to have amazing graphics
Also, Guitar Hero 4 is not letting me down. With DLC coming, as well as the music maker, why would you have to buy guitar hero on another system anymore?  Have fun with shitty online, NO DLC BECAUSE THERE ISN'T A HARD DRIVE, limited music making capabilities because of no hard drive, lower quality frame rate and graphics, and cut features like they did with Rock Band
Pikmin 3 is on the way for all you guys wanting that...  Yeah in 5 years, hasn't even been truly announced.
As well as new Mario and Zelda games.  That aren't even announced yet and will probably just be given gimmicky waggle controls again.
And I've only talked about E3 announcements. Think about the future Wii holds still.  Nintendo's E3 was shit and they decided not to go to any other conventions like Leipzig.  I don't see any potential at all
Yes, I believe there should be more hardcore games, but I think if companies truly wanted to make a great hardcore game for wii and not just port one over, that game would be amazing.  As long as a company can make a shitty port with waggle controls or a bunch of gimmicky minigames and make loads of cash, you'll never see near the quality of games that you see on other consoles.

[/end rant]
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Post by: Purple1222119 on August 18, 2008, 07:08:24 PM
Quote from: Gamer4250 on August 18, 2008, 07:01:07 PM
Quote from: pumpy_heart on August 16, 2008, 03:16:42 PMAlso, Guitar Hero 4 is not letting me down. With DLC coming, as well as the music maker, why would you have to buy guitar hero on another system anymore?  Have fun with shitty online, NO DLC BECAUSE THERE ISN'T A HARD DRIVE, limited music making capabilities because of no hard drive, lower quality frame rate and graphics, and cut features like they did with Rock Band


[/end rant]

IT'S CALLED AN SD CARD, SMART ONE
Title: Re: Nintendo's realy going down the drain >__> and with VC too.
Post by: KefkaticFanatic on August 18, 2008, 07:12:05 PM
Have fun with 50 SD cards just for 1 game.
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Post by: Purple1222119 on August 18, 2008, 07:13:57 PM
Oh ya and wut about brawl....
It worked fine with 1 sd card



BTW I have 50 sd cards so yes I will have fun :)
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Post by: KefkaticFanatic on August 18, 2008, 07:27:15 PM
That's probably because the brawl files are tiny.  You'll find that songs in guitar hero are not the same.
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Post by: B-Kpianist on August 18, 2008, 07:36:07 PM
the only games i really liked on the wii were Super Paper Mario (which is the best wii game imo), and... um...
well that's it. Brawl got me bored really quick, MK Wii was just ok, and SMG was also ok

And ever since Rare Ltd. stopped making Donkey Kong games back on the N64, the franchise died... I miss those days, at least i'm getting banjo back again, but that's for the 360.
Title: Re: Nintendo's realy going down the drain >__> and with VC too.
Post by: MetroidHunter26 on August 18, 2008, 08:45:28 PM
Quote from: B-Kpianist on August 18, 2008, 07:36:07 PMthe only games i really liked on the wii were Super Paper Mario (which is the best wii game imo), and... um...
well that's it. Brawl got me bored really quick, MK Wii was just ok, and SMG was also ok

And ever since Rare Ltd. stopped making Donkey Kong games back on the N64, the franchise died... I miss those days, at least i'm getting banjo back again, but that's for the 360.
>__>

Well I have all the good first party games and that's it and this comic basicly sums it all up
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vgcats.com%2Fcomics%2Fimages%2F080722.jpg&hash=33818e33c46778740446203695180cac02ee71d5)
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Post by: kotorfanboy on August 18, 2008, 08:49:50 PM
startlingly accurate. I like the major first party games, but that's about it.
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Post by: Nakah on August 21, 2008, 04:57:10 AM
Quote from: Dekudude on August 16, 2008, 06:17:43 PMI love Nintendo, but they've been doing a lot of stupid things.

Donkey Kong Jungle Beat? Seriously...


The Wii has potential, but they aren't making good use of it... oh well.


   We make game where you bang BIG GIANT BONGO DRUMS har har har.
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Post by: Jedesyus on August 28, 2008, 02:18:59 AM
Ima wait for Crystal Chronicles Wii  ;D
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Post by: B-Kpianist on August 28, 2008, 02:17:29 PM
I think they should remake DK64 for the wii. Thatd bring the DK series back for sure!
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Post by: Mike on August 28, 2008, 03:31:19 PM
Quote from: Gamer4250 on August 18, 2008, 07:27:15 PMThat's probably because the brawl files are tiny.  You'll find that songs in guitar hero are not the same.

Downloaded content yes, but custom made using the game's music creator no. All the notes and stuff are already on the disk. All it needs to do is create a text file with the note pattern. Which would be a maximum of 500kb per song.
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Post by: Wrydryn on August 28, 2008, 04:05:06 PM
My brother(playgame38) was able to use the twilight hack and the homebrew channel to get SSB from the N64 and other games for free! Also the Wii just uses an emulator to run VC!

Wii also is only going for little kids with the new games with few exceptions so nintendo is lost.

But other that hacks the wii is not going down, but in the sewer lets hope nintendo can get to the treatment center and back in the system.

(bad metaphor but...)
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Post by: The-Real-Link on August 30, 2008, 11:41:11 AM
I think the many gamers are often looking for too much in a game, and forget to enjoy what's there. Twilight Princess was a VERY good game. No, it's not the best game ever made, it's not even the best Zelda game, but it's a GOOD game. I think people are often looking for the PERFECT game, and forget to enjoy themselves. Nintendo, as well as other companies, make really good games on a pretty frequent basis. Every once in a while we will get an amazing gem like Ocarina of Time, Final Fantasy IV, Mario RPG, Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn, Smash Bros. Brawl, and so much more. It's just that we are looking for it too hard, and then we get disappointed when a game is not as good as those are. If we can learn to get over that, and just enjoy what is there to enjoy then we will see that a lot of games deserve more credit than they are generally given.
Same thing with graphics. People often criticize the Wii's graphics. True, they do not have the capabilities of the PS3, but they are still very clean and pretty. Take Twilight Princess for example. TP looks AMAZING. Is it realistic, no. Graphics don't have to look real to be a beautiful work of art. I dare anyone here to watch one of the Eternal Sonata trailers and tell me the graphics look bad. We need to start appreciating the hard work that game makers put into the games that they give us. I'm not saying that every game is good. I've played a lot of terrible games. But at the same time, there are a lot of good games out there. People just need to stop looking for perfect games, because you won't find it. Just like Ocarina of Time, or Final Fantasy IV, they are going to come when you least expect it.
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Post by: KefkaticFanatic on August 30, 2008, 12:08:28 PM
TRL:  It may be a good game, but when you have far superior games on other consoles, and even on the last gen, it sure is a turnoff.
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Post by: The-Real-Link on August 30, 2008, 01:31:44 PM
Quote from: Gamer4250 on August 30, 2008, 12:08:28 PMTRL:  It may be a good game, but when you have far superior games on other consoles, and even on the last gen, it sure is a turnoff.
I'm not putting down other games, I'm just saying that it IS worth playing. There are far superior games on other consoles from this gen, last gen, and gens past. Shoot, one of my all-time favorite games in for the SNES and I still have it, and still play it! I just saying you shouldn't pass up a chance to play it just because it isn't perfect.
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Post by: KefkaticFanatic on August 31, 2008, 10:29:11 AM
But why waste my precious time with a game that is far inferior to so many other things?

That is my point.
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Post by: The-Real-Link on August 31, 2008, 10:48:43 AM
Quote from: Gamer4250 on August 31, 2008, 10:29:11 AMBut why waste my precious time with a game that is far inferior to so many other things?

That is my point.
I'm not saying everybody is going to like it. I, personally, enjoyed the game very much. I'm just saying that people who have never played it should at least give it a chance.
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Post by: Tranzlater on August 31, 2008, 11:33:49 AM
360= Really repetetive FPSes that get boring quick
PS3= S*** expensive, and no good games that are worth buying the console for
Wii= Not so good graphics, not so powerful, but a really cool way of working and some pretty awesome games. Its really those bloody 3rd partyers that make things so irritating.
And complaining doesn't really make things better 'cept infuriate everybody. I'd like to wonder about the future though.
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Post by: KefkaticFanatic on August 31, 2008, 01:18:20 PM
Lawl fanboy.
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Post by: MetroidHunter26 on August 31, 2008, 01:58:04 PM
Well either way I'm happy I got a 360 8) but the Wii will get something....eventually >__>
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Post by: B-Kpianist on August 31, 2008, 03:01:01 PM
I'm so glad banjo is coming soon, and Trouble in Paradise Next week! ;D
I hope something good for the wii will come, Super Paper Mario is the best game for Wii (imo), and the only that i don't get sick of (hard to find a game you wanna play over and over now-a-days). It's the only game that's close to being as good as a good ol' N64 platformer  :)
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Post by: Mike on September 01, 2008, 10:24:19 AM
Super Mario RPG on the VC today. So that just gave it a few points right there. Now waiting for Mega Man 9.
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Post by: The-Real-Link on September 02, 2008, 07:39:32 AM
Quote from: Mike on September 01, 2008, 10:24:19 AMSuper Mario RPG on the VC today. So that just gave it a few points right there. Now waiting for Mega Man 9.
NUH UH!!!!! ARE YOU SERIOUS!!!!! ONE OF MY ALL TIME FAVORITE GAMES EVER ON VC!!!! I'VE BEEN WAITING SINCE DAY 1 FOR THIS!!!!!! *runs to check out shop channel*
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Post by: Wrydryn on September 02, 2008, 11:54:20 AM
lol that game came out when my brother hacked my friends wii and put it on there! :D
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Post by: Shervin on September 08, 2008, 09:32:47 AM
everyones expectations are just way to high

*coughgamercough*

and some people are just microsoft fan boys

*coughgamercough*


wii has a lot of good games, legend of zelda twilight princess, super mario galaxy, super smash bros brawl, guitar hero, and more. only problem i see with them is that they where way to easy for me. but hey, that not that bad lol.... i hope they make a good mario party game. and get the originals on VC. then ill be happy.

and no i am not a nintendo fan boy. because i have a 360 and i do play it. but i agree with whoever posted that its just a bunch of fps's. and they do get old, fast. lol

halo 3 and stuff is still kinda fun though. i've been playing that new geometry wars though, its fucking awesome XD



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Post by: KefkaticFanatic on September 09, 2008, 05:24:08 PM
Shervin: the fact that you are calling me a Microsoft fanboy and saying that the 360 only has boring FPS games automatically makes you a Nintendo fanboy, sorry.
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Post by: jake3343 on September 09, 2008, 06:07:03 PM
Quote from: Gamer4250 on September 09, 2008, 05:24:08 PMShervin: the fact that you are calling me a Microsoft fanboy and saying that the 360 only has boring FPS games automatically makes you a Nintendo fanboy, sorry.

Quoted for truth
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Post by: Shervin on September 14, 2008, 10:11:53 AM
really? that i would like you to tell me how that makes me a fanboy.

because you are completely and totally wrong XD

but i guess you are able to have your uneducated accusations about me thats okay :D
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Post by: blah54 on September 14, 2008, 12:25:36 PM
well the truth is... aside from the good games on 360, shooters or not, there are in honesty a lot of pretty crappy generic shooters, just like the wii has some good games, but also has millions of random crappy games about ponies etc.

the 360 is the better system in every way except for marketing in which the wii frankly dominates... even nintendo's first-party franchises aren't enough to keep the ship afloat to hardcore gamers, and because of other reasons such as general lack of multiplayer... but assuming the generation population of the world still remains in love with the wii, it will be nintendo who will continue to bring in the cash, which is every companies true goal, to make money...

on a side note, the newer generation of gamers, tend to be kids who think that they're incredible, crazy hardcore gamers just because they're busy shooting something...  and because of this, the 'new' definition for hardcore has become almost synonymous with the fps genre, or more specifically blood, gore and shooting... which is kind of sad... but i'm not sure if the nintendo fanboys who cling desperately to nintendo despite nintendo vehemently ignoring their pleas are sadder or not...

anyways, that was off-topic but nintendo may (and has already) lose/lost credibility among the 'hardcore' gamers, both new and old, but it's still on top of the gaming market in terms of cash...
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Post by: KefkaticFanatic on September 14, 2008, 03:52:05 PM
Which is why they're sucking cock right now, the Wii has become a novelty toy that everyone HAS to buy right now.  Nintendo doesn't have to make any effort to sell anything, people will just buy the products.
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Post by: PseudoMario16 on September 14, 2008, 07:31:07 PM
Quote from: Gamer4250 on September 14, 2008, 03:52:05 PMWhich is why they're sucking cock right now, the Wii has become a novelty toy that everyone HAS to buy right now.  Nintendo doesn't have to make any effort to sell anything, people will just buy the products.
cuz people are dumb. the wii at this point has been gimmiked to death, and because the wii is all about those gimmiks, theres very few real games for the wii, so thats why their sucking
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Post by: Tranzlater on September 15, 2008, 08:10:38 AM
There's the Wii zapper, which is awesome, yet no good FPS'! Maybe the conduit, but is that it? I don't see why Microsoft don't just release a zapper thing for the 360!
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Post by: The-Real-Link on September 15, 2008, 06:27:23 PM
I agree with Blah. The "Hardcore" game has become a generic, bloody, gory, f-bomb filled, FPS. I miss the days when a hardcore game was Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy IV, Ocarina of Time, or Soul Caliber. If we could just convince everybody to go buy Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn (Wii) or Eternal Sonata (360) then maybe there could be some hope yet.  (Although Final Fantasy XIII shows some major promise....as does Infinate Undiscovery.)
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Post by: Palagerini on September 16, 2008, 04:38:28 AM
        on a side note... how is fire emblem radiant dawn? it looked pretty good and i was thinking about getting it...

        But anyways yea i agree with blah. Gorey FPS are the new hardcore... which really stinks because some kids are too ignorant to play the old games that use to be hardcore... and alot of times even when they do they continue to say like... oh cod 4 is the best game evur... which it isn't (but still good none the less). and yea gamer is right too.. the wii is basically a novelty item... there aren't a whole lotta good gamer games.. (barring metroid prime 3 though... and probaly fire emblem...maybe super mario galaxy.... maybe..)..

        There's a few games where they have potentail to be good multiplayer games but instead they ruin it... MoH: H 2... the online looked fun in the reviews and the controls were really good... and there is barely any lag.. (well for me atleast).. but everyone on them are basically noobs just doing suicides with grenades or just sitting on a ledge with a bazooka or panzershreck and just camping.. u also can't really boot because no one sees it... i would say talking but i kinda understand why they have that wierd quickchat thing... oh and that the german weapons are kinda overpowered... the kar98k does more damage than the m1 garand and it usually takes a full clip of the m1 garand to kill somone... oddly.. mp40 has more ammo and is faster than the thompson (lol?).. stg44 and B.A.R. shoot the same yet the stg44 has more ammo.. making it better.. shotguns are same luckily.. gewher 43 far out performs the springfield... it shoots faster and with more ammo... zooka and shreck are the same...

           oh and try metroid prime 3 with the wii zapper... it's pretty fun =P. if only samus could use her 5 ton right arm to pimp smack someone... =P
Title: Re: Nintendo's realy going down the drain >__> and with VC too.
Post by: Tranzlater on September 16, 2008, 09:39:06 AM
Quote from: Palagerini on September 16, 2008, 04:38:28 AMon a side note... how is fire emblem radiant dawn? it looked pretty good and i was thinking about getting it...

but anyways yea i agree with blah. Gorey FPS are the new hardcore... which really stinks because some kids are too ignorant to play the old games that use to be hardcore... and alot of times even when they do they continue to say like... oh cod 4 is the best game evur... which it isn't (but still good none the less). and yea gamer is right too.. the wii is basically a novelty item... there aren't a whole lotta good gamer games.. (barring metroid prime 3 though... and probaly fire emblem...maybe super mario galaxy.... maybe..).. and tehre's a few games where they have potentail to be good multiplayer games but instead they ruin it... MoH: H 2... the online looked fun in the reviews and the controls were really good... and there is barely any lag.. (well for me atleast).. but everyone on them are basically noobs just doing suicides with grenades or just sitting on a ledge with a bazooka or panzershreck and just camping.. u also can't really boot because no one sees it... i would say talking but i kinda understand why they have that wierd quickchat thing... oh and that the german weapons are kinda overpowered... the kar98k does more damage than the m1 garand and it usually takes a full clip of the m1 garand to kill somone... oddly.. mp40 has more ammo and is faster than the thompson (lol?).. stg44 and B.A.R. shoot the same yet the stg44 has more ammo.. making it better.. shotguns are same luckily.. gewher 43 far out performs the springfield... it shoots faster and with more ammo... zooka and shreck are the same...

oh and try metroid prime 3 with the wii zapper... it's pretty fun =P. if only samus could use her 5 ton right arm to pimp smack someone... =P

Ouch I could only be bothered to read the bit at the end which was relevant to me. Could you paragraph it, please?
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Post by: random_goldfish on September 16, 2008, 09:56:24 AM
I really want Radiant Dawn because the first one pwned. Only...I am currently at college and my Wii is a couple hundred miles away at my house with my brother that won't cough it up...he doesn't even play it.
Title: Re: Nintendo's realy going down the drain >__> and with VC too.
Post by: KefkaticFanatic on September 16, 2008, 06:20:47 PM
A hardcore game is a game that isn't gimmicky controls and is actually fun to play with enjoyable gameplay for long periods of time.  It's a game that is MEANT to be enjoyed, not sell millions of copies.  Although that usually happens if it's a good game.
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Post by: blah54 on September 16, 2008, 07:35:54 PM
Quote from: Palagerini on September 16, 2008, 04:38:28 AMon a side note... how is fire emblem radiant dawn? it looked pretty good and i was thinking about getting it...

radiant dawn is more difficult than FE9 or FE8 (lol) for example, but that's a good thing... but only the first parts, which i might compare to hector hard mode from FE7 (which really isn't that hard)... and when you're in trouble, turtling never fails...

but radiant dawn has a horribly told story... but if you liked any other fire emblem, then you should like this one...
Title: Re: Nintendo's realy going down the drain >__> and with VC too.
Post by: Palagerini on September 17, 2008, 07:56:28 PM
hm... ok... probaly gonna save up for ps3 then =P.

better? i suck at language arts... i hate language arts and it hates me....  :P although i'm better at writing than reading and grammer =P..
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Post by: Wrydryn on September 18, 2008, 12:26:49 PM
i'm not sure if this has been stated but the wii is selling for $250 and it has about 256MB as far as i've seen a bad graphics card. Also if I want cheap games I could just buy them from e-bay or amazon used for their original console.
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Post by: The-Real-Link on November 16, 2008, 03:13:08 PM
Quote from: Gamer4250 on September 16, 2008, 06:20:47 PMA hardcore game is a game that isn't gimmicky controls and is actually fun to play with enjoyable gameplay for long periods of time.  It's a game that is MEANT to be enjoyed, not sell millions of copies.  Although that usually happens if it's a good game.
Well said!
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Post by: razer84 on November 28, 2008, 10:30:50 AM
i used to like Nintendo. You might say i was even a fanboy for a few years. When the Wii came out, i enjoyed it, there were some good games. then there stopped being good games. I feel that Nintendo has forgotten about gamers and i've given up on them as a result. I haven't played my Wii for months.

it really is too bad...
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Post by: The-Real-Link on November 30, 2008, 07:41:46 PM
I love it when a nobody studio up and makes an out-of-nowhere game, and it's awsome. I just went to Gamestop's Black Friday sale, and bought a Golden Sun game. It rules! I wonder what else camelot has done.
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Post by: pumpy_heart on December 01, 2008, 03:49:50 PM
Camelot made Golden Sun 2 as well XD XD
They are more commonly known for their golf and tennis games.
They used to be called Star Legend or something. Created great RPGs on the Genesis. Shining Force 1 and 2 are out on the Virtual Console...and what great games they were
Title: Re: Nintendo's realy going down the drain >__> and with VC too.
Post by: The-Real-Link on December 01, 2008, 07:07:59 PM
Quote from: pumpy_heart on December 01, 2008, 03:49:50 PMCamelot made Golden Sun 2 as well XD XD
They are more commonly known for their golf and tennis games.
They used to be called Star Legend or something. Created great RPGs on the Genesis. Shining Force 1 and 2 are out on the Virtual Console...and what great games they were
You mean they did shining force! I have the first one. Golden Sun 2 is what I have. I don't have the first one. Story is a bit confusing because of that, but I think I get the gist of it.
Title: Re: Nintendo's realy going down the drain >__> and with VC too.
Post by: dahans on December 08, 2008, 05:33:29 AM
well on the one hand i have to agree, on the other hand there are a lot of games which are really good.moreover, only the games of nintendo are good, the other games are mostly disappointing. i think when Mario tennis finally releases (or mario golf) it will be great fun. otherwise nintendo is going down the drain. anyway the sound is great ^^ as fex in SMG: it's the first game with orchestral music, thats a big improvement. however im looking forward to playing mario golf and mario tennis
Title: Re: Nintendo's realy going down the drain >__> and with VC too.
Post by: The-Real-Link on December 08, 2008, 05:37:56 PM
The 2009 Wii lineup looks pretty good. I've especially got my eyes on Arc Rise Fantasia and Fragile.
Title: Re: Nintendo's realy going down the drain >__> and with VC too.
Post by: B-Kpianist on December 10, 2008, 03:41:07 PM
Quote from: dahans on December 08, 2008, 05:33:29 AMwell on the one hand i have to agree, on the other hand there are a lot of games which are really good.moreover, only the games of nintendo are good, the other games are mostly disappointing. i think when Mario tennis finally releases (or mario golf) it will be great fun. otherwise nintendo is going down the drain. anyway the sound is great ^^ as fex in SMG: it's the first game with orchestral music, thats a big improvement. however im looking forward to playing mario golf and mario tennis

Galaxy was too easy though. Great soundtrack, pretty graphics (for a wii), but easy and linear.
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Post by: KefkaticFanatic on December 10, 2008, 06:14:10 PM
...why does the name dahans make me think of G-Han.
Title: Re: Nintendo's realy going down the drain >__> and with VC too.
Post by: musicguy360 on December 14, 2008, 03:44:41 PM
Quote from: Gamer4250 on December 10, 2008, 06:14:10 PM...why does the name dahans make me think of G-Han.

dahans

i guess...