TWG CXIII: Screw Strategy, We Have Money!1. Wolf
2. Wolf
Wolves know eachother. The wolf team share their money.
Each wolf has a wolfing of his own, meaning that as long as both wolves wolf, two lives will be lost each night phase.
3. Banker - Is told the amount of money all wolf players combined have as well as the amount of money all humans have combined at the end of each night phase.
4. Businessman - Earns NSM$150 at the end of each day phase rather than NSM$100
5. Human
6. Human
7. Human
8. Human
Each player starts with 3 lives. Wolfings and lynchings each take away one life.
The wolf team starts with NSM$300. Each Human starts with NSM$200. At the end of each day phase each Human earns NSM$100 (except the Businessman who earns NSM$150 instead).
Whenever a player dies(=loses all lives) by lynching or wolfing, the wolves will steal all of the killed player's money. If the kill was an item kill, the player responsible for the killing will steal all of the killed players money (if the killed player was the first wolf player to die, only half of the wolf team's money will go to the player responsable).
During the night phase, players can buy items with their money. Passive items will only last for the next day phase and the next night phase. Active items can only be used during the next night phase unless stated otherwise.
In any case all items will be useless after one day phase and one night phase after they have been bought.list of items
Poison Dart (poisons the player shot, causing that player to lose a life at the end of the next night unless that player buys an antidote during that night. Poisoned players will be told that they are poisoned) – NSM$75
Gun (takes one life away from the player shot) – NSM$100
Bulletproof Vest (protects the player from guns and snipers, but not from wolfings and poison darts) – NSM$100
Silent Sniper (takes one lives away from the player shot, can be fired in the middle of any phase. Unless this kills that player, this loss of life will not be mentioned until the end of the next night phase (thereby blending in with other kind of life loss)) – NSM$150
Silver (protects the owner from wolfings) - NSM$150
Antidote (when bought, the player will not lose a life due to poisoning that night) – NSM$150
Bribery (Your vote counts for 2 during the next day phase) – NSM$150
Steal-an-item item (target a player upon buying the item. If that player also buys an item during the same phase, you get that item instead) – NSM$175
Guardian Angel (protects from guns, snipers, poison darts, and wolfing attempts.) – NSM$200
Potion (Restores 1 life at the end of the next day phase. Doesn't work if the player has 3 lives remaining) – NSM$200
Duct Tape (Target a player during the night phase. That player will be unable to perform any action during the next night phase. Actions include wolfing, buying an item, using an item (except duct tape) and painting. Also prevents passive items from working and if the banker is targeted it prevents him from learning the amount of money each team has and if the businessman is targeted he will only receive NSM$100 during that night phase.) – NSM$300
Super Bribery (Your vote counts for 4 during the next day phase) – NSM$300
Reflector (when targeted by a gun, a sniper or a poison dart, the shot is reflected to the user) – NSM$300
Tank (Target a player, that player will lose 3 lives. Also protects the owner from guns, snipers, poison darts, other tanks, wolfing attempts, but not from duct tape. Also prevents the owner from being lynched, in which case the player with the second most votes is lynched instead. Cannot be stolen) – NSM$500, each player can only buy one tank per game.
Wolves win when all humans are dead.
Humans win when all wolves are dead.
If there is one human alive and one wolf alive with both having one life at the start of the day phase and there is no vote manipulation, the game ends in a tie.
1. BlackDragonSlayer
2. hoggers
3. mikey
4. ShyYoshiGuy
5. E. Gadd Industries
6. Funnygurl555
7. EveningSun720
8. MadDemon
All PM's have been sent. It's now night 1. Night one ends 11:00AM PST, 12:00PM MST, 1:00PM CST, 2:00PM EST, 8:00PM CET.
First
https://discord.gg/XvEtkUK
This game features ootc. The above discord channel will be used.
There's probably some stupid synchronization we can do to out the wolves since they have less money than a human would, but I'm too lazy to figure it out exactly
Probably involves buying two snipers per person or something
hype
Quote from: mikey on July 08, 2019, 12:06:52 PMThere's probably some stupid synchronization we can do to out the wolves since they have less money than a human would, but I'm too lazy to figure it out exactly
Probably involves buying two snipers per person or something
Gosh darnit noct, why can't you tell me the weak points of the game before they start?
Sniper (now called Silent Sniper) now doesn't announce itself and the life loss caused by it is only announced at the end of the next night phase.
Woooo let's go, I'm back in action!
Also woooo money! Heck, that's more than I get in a paycheck
Hm
Nope can't think of anything else
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Someone post
Bds is already wolfy were off to a great start
Right now, I'm going to say we shouldn't talk about item purchases, because that just paints a target on you for the wolves.
Quote from: mikey on July 08, 2019, 05:32:22 PMBds is already wolfy were off to a great start
if it makes you feel good i will not object to your opinion
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on July 08, 2019, 05:58:25 PMif it makes you feel good i will not object to your opinion
it does make me feel good thanks
Quote from: mikey on July 08, 2019, 06:05:20 PMit does make me feel good thanks
glad to contribute to your sense of self-fulfillment
what do i do with $150
Wait a minute, are wolfings announced if they only take away lives and don't kill anybody?
didnt even read the rules before i signed, this shits dope
I can't remember how many times I've signed up for a game and only read the details once the game's started lol. Tends to happen more on my home sites (rip LLFTWG) than whenever I jump over to another site to play.
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on July 08, 2019, 07:27:49 PMWait a minute, are wolfings announced if they only take away lives and don't kill anybody?
Life loss is announced (how the life was lost is not announced).
the point of game is simple revealing. we must all shoot ourselves until everyone has one life, and then true game begin. it show coward from man, and man always good guy. good guy having no fear prove game is broken. es merde tu your death, i not. who is coward here? let the games begin.
run little pepperoni babies
/vote hoggers
Hello,
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on July 08, 2019, 05:57:48 PMRight now, I'm going to say we shouldn't talk about item purchases, because that just paints a target on you for the wolves.
and yeah, I agree
Phase should have ended an hour ago, but it will be extended by 12 hours, since no one really seems to realise that the phase was so short. Please do make good use of this extra time that I'm giving you.
Quote from: hoggers on July 09, 2019, 12:20:50 AMthe point of game is simple revealing. we must all shoot ourselves until everyone has one life, and then true game begin. it show coward from man, and man always good guy. good guy having no fear prove game is broken. es merde tu your death, i not. who is coward here? let the games begin.
lmao this would be fun
where are you cowards
come fight me
i am here
i am waiting.
r u stoldi
i am truth
Quote from: hoggers on July 09, 2019, 12:35:50 AM/vote hoggers
but it is night
And also, you just need to bold the name. No "/vote" shenanigans necessary.
Phase pls
TWG CXIII: Screw Strategy, We Have Money!1. Wolf
2. Wolf
Wolves know eachother. The wolf team share their money.
Each wolf has a wolfing of his own, meaning that as long as both wolves wolf, two lives will be lost each night phase.
3. Banker - Is told the amount of money all wolf players combined have as well as the amount of money all humans have combined at the end of each night phase.
4. Businessman - Earns NSM$150 at the end of each day phase rather than NSM$100
5. Human
6. Human
7. Human
8. Human
Each player starts with 3 lives. Wolfings and lynchings each take away one life.
The wolf team starts with NSM$300. Each Human starts with NSM$200. At the end of each day phase each Human earns NSM$100 (except the Businessman who earns NSM$150 instead).
Whenever a player dies(=loses all lives) by lynching or wolfing, the wolves will steal all of the killed player's money. If the kill was an item kill, the player responsible for the killing will steal all of the killed players money (if the killed player was the first wolf player to die, only half of the wolf team's money will go to the player responsable).
During the night phase, players can buy items with their money. Passive items will only last for the next day phase and the next night phase. Active items can only be used during the next night phase unless stated otherwise.
In any case all items will be useless after one day phase and one night phase after they have been bought.list of items
Poison Dart (poisons the player shot, causing that player to lose a life at the end of the next night unless that player buys an antidote during that night. Poisoned players will be told that they are poisoned) – NSM$75
Gun (takes one life away from the player shot) – NSM$100
Bulletproof Vest (protects the player from guns and snipers, but not from wolfings and poison darts) – NSM$100
Silent Sniper (takes one lives away from the player shot, can be fired in the middle of any phase. Unless this kills that player, this loss of life will not be mentioned until the end of the next night phase (thereby blending in with other kind of life loss)) – NSM$150
Silver (protects the owner from wolfings) - NSM$150
Antidote (when bought, the player will not lose a life due to poisoning that night) – NSM$150
Bribery (Your vote counts for 2 during the next day phase) – NSM$150
Steal-an-item item (target a player upon buying the item. If that player also buys an item during the same phase, you get that item instead) – NSM$175
Guardian Angel (protects from guns, snipers, poison darts, and wolfing attempts.) – NSM$200
Potion (Restores 1 life at the end of the next day phase. Doesn't work if the player has 3 lives remaining) – NSM$200
Duct Tape (Target a player during the night phase. That player will be unable to perform any action during the next night phase. Actions include wolfing, buying an item, using an item (except duct tape) and painting. Also prevents passive items from working and if the banker is targeted it prevents him from learning the amount of money each team has and if the businessman is targeted he will only receive NSM$100 during that night phase.) – NSM$300
Super Bribery (Your vote counts for 4 during the next day phase) – NSM$300
Reflector (when targeted by a gun, a sniper or a poison dart, the shot is reflected to the user) – NSM$300
Tank (Target a player, that player will lose 3 lives. Also protects the owner from guns, snipers, poison darts, other tanks, wolfing attempts, but not from duct tape. Also prevents the owner from being lynched, in which case the player with the second most votes is lynched instead. Cannot be stolen) – NSM$500, each player can only buy one tank per game.
Wolves win when all humans are dead.
Humans win when all wolves are dead.
If there is one human alive and one wolf alive with both having one life at the start of the day phase and there is no vote manipulation, the game ends in a tie.
1. BlackDragonSlayer
2. hoggers
3. mikey
4. ShyYoshiGuy
5. E. Gadd Industries
6. Funnygurl555
7. EveningSun720
8. MadDemon
Funnygurl555 lost a life. It's now day 1. Day 1 ends July 12th 1:00AM PST, 2:00AM MST, 3:00AM CST, 4:00AM EST, 10:00AM CET.
Hm
So either one wolf is inactive, or Funnygurl lost two lives. Or Funny's a wolf who they decided to do the ol' switcheroo on and only have her lose one life.
Funnygurl said she had $150, right?
Can you confirm this Funnyman?
The post in question.
Quote from: Funnygurl555 on July 08, 2019, 07:13:49 PMwhat do i do with $150
Hm, this is confusing. She didn't explicitly say she
had $150, she just asked what she could do with $150, then again, it could be a genuine slip. Good catch.
1. BlackDragonSlayer: posted (duh) a fair amount
2. hoggers: posted, albeit all in a relatively short span
3. mikey: posted a fair amount
4. ShyYoshiGuy: posted once (but I know he's been active elsewhere)
5. E. Gadd Industries: posted once (but I know he's been active elsewhere)
6. Funnygurl555: posted a fair amount
7. EveningSun720: didn't post in the thread but posted in the sign-ups thread after the game had started (lol)
8. MadDemon: posted once
To get a general gauge of activity so far.
Quote from: EveningSun720 on July 10, 2019, 07:20:49 PMFunnygurl said she had $150, right?
Can you confirm this Funnyman?
I was wondering what that $150 post meant myself, but I wasn't sure if the wolves were each given half the amount of the sum or if it's up to them to split it how they see fit? The way I understand it, it's a pool, and if one buys an item, the other can use it. If that's the case, and for Funnygurl555 to be wolf (and this post being a slip-up), the duo would have to agree to split it or set some sort of weird "budget" thing. Alternatively, it's just an arbitrary value, which sort of also raises the question of why they would ask something like that (since we all start with $200 and there's nothing for sale that's less than $75) in the first place. Question that may or may not be relevant, but confuses me regardless: who is Funnyman?
Despite all that being said, especially when combined with the results of last night, I'm still on the fence about a lot of suspicions because I haven't played with at least half this group (I can't remember if I've played a game with Shy). So uh, that's all for now. I'll be thinking things over and I'll likely try to formulate a suspicions list from what we have now and will also gain tomorrow (er, today, I guess. After I've slept and woken up again). (So here's hoping for more activity before then!)
Yeah it's just a weird post for her to make, I really hope it's not a slip
Then consider that she lost a life night one
I'm going to vote eveningsun . It's a bit of a stretch, but it's the best iv e got right now
Oh, I figured it out. I'm able to log in if I sign in on Private Browsing Mode. Sorry, guys.
My vote is Funnygurl555. I explained on Discord:
"Combining that slip-up and the fact that possibly the wolves hurt themselves in order to seem innocent, I would vote **Funnygurl555** (but I can't get on the forums). It's not really enough though, so I guess fg should explain herself."
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on July 10, 2019, 03:53:06 PMor Funnygurl lost two lives.
I asked davy on Discord. Fg lost
exactly one life.
i was being sarcastic with the $150 thing LOL ik town's got 200
anyway i lost a life. gonna double check but i think maybe maybe this could help clear me
right, so no one can use an item until day time guys
i was targeted by a wolf, so unless you think that a wolf targets themselves here, im clear
so not hard cleared, but townier than most of you folks
unfortunately i'll only be here for another half hour
Vote: eveningsun
i don't think you'd actually be suspicious of me for a post like that
mann im gonna hope and pray i get internet back home soon so i can be around for eods. this sucks
damn i guess im leaving my vote here
sorry for my inactivity, im here for a good while now though
what the hell
who would only shoot themselves as mafia, especially only once
hopefully nobody is dumb enough to do just that but you never know
funnygurl took the brave man pledge. rest of you are COWARDS. you may try to hide color of your soul, but never hide the extent of your heart.
i challenge BlockDongDragon to a duel!
Quote from: Funnygurl555 on July 11, 2019, 01:43:03 PMi was being sarcastic with the $150 thing LOL ik town's got 200
uh huh
sure
Quoteanyway i lost a life. gonna double check but i think maybe maybe this could help clear me
If wolves can't wolf themselves, then yeah, it could clear you, but that's the only way.
Quote from: Funnygurl555 on July 11, 2019, 01:47:00 PMunfortunately i'll only be here for another half hour
Vote: eveningsun
i don't think you'd actually be suspicious of me for a post like that
FUNNY how you vote for someone who already has a vote on them. That seems odd, especially after the person called you out on a possible slip-up. Pursuing possible slip-ups is always a worthwhile endeavor, and you shouldn't criticize anybody for that.
Quote from: hoggers on July 11, 2019, 03:18:21 PMfunnygurl took the brave man pledge. rest of you are COWARDS. you may try to hide color of your soul, but never hide the extent of your heart.
i challenge BlockDongDragon to a duel!
excusez-moi
who is blockdongdragon
Also, voting for
MadDemon because in the case of an inactive wolf (which is likely at this point, IMO; I see no other reason why the wolves would have foregone their second shot), they're probably the most likely to have been the inactive wolf.
Quote from: MadDemon on July 11, 2019, 03:06:54 PMwhat the hell
who would only shoot themselves as mafia, especially only once
hopefully nobody is dumb enough to do just that but you never know
If Funnygurl is a wolf, and her partner was inactive, she would only be able to shoot herself once.
In a game with multiple lives, shooting oneself once is a valid strategy, because players with prior TWG experience tend to automatically associate night kills with innocence, and you still have two lives left, so you can't be taken out so easily by someone acting individually.
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on July 11, 2019, 03:35:05 PMexcusez-moi
who is blockdongdragon
Also, voting for MadDemon because in the case of an inactive wolf (which is likely at this point, IMO; I see no other reason why the wolves would have foregone their second shot), they're probably the most likely to have been the inactive wolf.
you have eyes? you are you, and you are ignoring maddemon post. how he inactive if he posting?
this guy gotta die. we need to punish excellence
Quote from: hoggers on July 11, 2019, 04:13:13 PMyou have eyes? you are you, and you are ignoring maddemon post. how he inactive if he posting?
this guy gotta die. we need to punish excellence
please talk normally
Also, since you don't seem to have eyes, I'd like to point out that I was referring to night phase activity, not current activity, since night phase activity is what mattered in determining whether a wolf was online to submit a wolfing or not.
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on July 11, 2019, 04:23:26 PMplease talk normally
Also, since you don't seem to have eyes, I'd like to point out that I was referring to night phase activity, not current activity, since night phase activity is what mattered in determining whether a wolf was online to submit a wolfing or not.
typical american make fun of people have to learn their dumb language. you lucky i speak to you with these words instead of in home tongue.
how you know when he was on? are you cheating?
Quote from: hoggers on July 11, 2019, 04:30:48 PMtypical american make fun of people have to learn their dumb language. you lucky i speak to you with these words instead of in home tongue.
how you know when he was on? are you cheating?
I'm judging based on what times MadDemon has posted, which is, of course, visible to everyone. MadDemon even admitted to being inactive recently.
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on July 11, 2019, 04:36:27 PMI'm judging based on what times MadDemon has posted, which is, of course, visible to everyone. MadDemon even admitted to being inactive recently.
i look facts and facts are you look evil. you no even shoot yourself and you scared to fight. you think i no notice your shifty eyes and scaredy tactics?
Quote from: hoggers on July 11, 2019, 05:08:07 PMi look facts and facts are you look evil. you no even shoot yourself and you scared to fight. you think i no notice your shifty eyes and scaredy tactics?
Please explain how I've been "scared to fight." I wouldn't say I have either "shifty eyes" nor "scaredy tactics." I've been deliberate and analytical so far up to the present, which is more than a lot of other people can say about their performance.
Quote from: mikey on July 11, 2019, 08:20:04 AMYeah it's just a weird post for her to make, I really hope it's not a slip
Then consider that she lost a life night one
I'm going to vote eveningsun . It's a bit of a stretch, but it's the best iv e got right now
Lol, it's a huge stretch. Are you going to ignore the fact that Funnygurl said she had $150?
Only wolves can have that amount. Why would she say that?
Quote from: Funnygurl555 on July 11, 2019, 02:00:33 PMdamn i guess im leaving my vote here
Praise your eyes for a minute, then look at my posts.
I am putting my Vote on
MadDemon This man is acting way too defensive. If MadDemon was town, he would be in this thread eating me alive right now.
He's a coward wolf, running from every fight he's supposed to take.
The BlackDragon is my top town.
As previously stated, I dislike MadDemon. I know this man... he would not be scared as Town in this scenario.
As for my friend, hoggers. I'll be keeping an eye on him, but I think he's clearly town. He wanted to draw someone into a duel, in order to begin sorting. Pure towny play, I saw it.
Funnygurl and the other fraud voting me are nulls for now.
Vote Rundown so far:
ES- 2 (mikey, FG)
FG- 1 (SYG)
BDS- 1 (hoggers)
MD- 2 (BDS, ES)
No vote- 2 (MD, EGI)
I really don't agree with anyone else here. Both things going for MD revolve around him being inactive, I don't know why ES is wolfy, and the argument against BDS is, let's say, not compelling. I might not check this thread until tomorrow, so let's see what happens.
Quote from: EveningSun720 on July 11, 2019, 06:42:08 PMPraise your eyes for a minute, then look at my posts.
I am putting my Vote on MadDemon This man is acting way too defensive. If MadDemon was town, he would be in this thread eating me alive right now.
He's a coward wolf, running from every fight he's supposed to take.
listen woman
you havbe made two different statements here
lemme fix that for the blind
QuoteI am putting my Vote on MadDemon This man is acting way too defensive. If MadDemon was town, he would be in this thread eating me alive right now.
Vote: mikey
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on July 11, 2019, 03:32:31 PMuh huh
sure
If wolves can't wolf themselves, then yeah, it could clear you, but that's the only way.
FUNNY how you vote for someone who already has a vote on them. That seems odd, especially after the person called you out on a possible slip-up. Pursuing possible slip-ups is always a worthwhile endeavor, and you shouldn't criticize anybody for that.
sounds like you've already got your mind made up bds
not a fan of that, but first i must kill mikey
i will save up for a tank to kill mikey
Quote from: MadDemon on July 11, 2019, 07:55:48 PMlemme fix that for the blind
That's a little odd at first, but I'm not sure if those statements are 100% exclusive.
Quote from: Funnygurl555 on July 11, 2019, 08:21:29 PMi will save up for a tank to kill mikey
why tho
Like, I get he's always a wildcard, but why? I don't think he's acting any out of the ordinary, which right now means there's not any reason to vote for him one way or the other.
i can't trust him anymore
i just can't
we had this thing going
and he broke it
and now im broken
he must die
i would vote for you bds if not for mikey
but he must go
ok
so you're basically voting for him because you don't like him as a person
i don't get why you'd vote for me either tho and it might actually help to explain
I dunno, this is only confirming my vote. Now you're just accusing mikey for just being mikey. Care to explain yourself, or nah?
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on July 11, 2019, 08:27:23 PMok
so you're basically voting for him because you don't like him as a person
i don't get why you'd vote for me either tho and it might actually help to explain
it sounds like you're pushing an agenda by believing i slipped with the $150 and i shot myself
and yes that's exactly why mikey must go
Quote from: ShyYoshiGuy on July 11, 2019, 08:27:48 PMI dunno, this is only confirming my vote. Now you're just accusing mikey for just being mikey. Care to explain yourself, or nah?
if you were in my shoes you'd want him dead too
Quote from: Funnygurl555 on July 11, 2019, 08:31:31 PMif you were in my shoes you'd want him dead too
But what did he do to you? What, in your shoes, makes you want him dead?
Quote from: Funnygurl555 on July 11, 2019, 08:31:13 PMit sounds like you're pushing an agenda by believing i slipped with the $150 and i shot myself
And it seems more and more like you're trying to cover up a slip. I'm not the only person to have called you out for it.
Quoteand yes that's exactly why mikey must go
And you talk about pushing an agenda, really?
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on July 11, 2019, 08:24:23 PMThat's a little odd at first, but I'm not sure if those statements are 100% exclusive.
why tho
Like, I get he's always a wildcard, but why? I don't think he's acting any out of the ordinary, which right now means there's not any reason to vote for him one way or the other.
perhaps
but its still something to look at
Quote from: ShyYoshiGuy on July 11, 2019, 08:33:23 PMBut what did he do to you? What, in your shoes, makes you want him dead?
he hurt me
what you people doing? the dingdongdragon boy should be dead already.
hey eveningbum guy, who you doing? where you come from? i know no eveningbum, i no see you anywhere. you cheating?
i'm sorry i mean BlackDragonMan
i say i stop messing name up
What did I dooooo
Okay cool, a lot has happened! So I'm first going to make a current vote tally
bc I really need that for myselfMikey - EveningSun720
ShyYoshiGuy - Funnygurl555
Funnygurl555 - mikey
hoggers - BlackDragonSlayer
BlackDragonSlayer - MadDemon*
EveningSun720 - MadDemon
MadDemon - ???
E. Gadd -
So
MadDemon- 2
EveningSun720- 1
Funnygurl555- 1
BlackDragonSlayer- 1
mikey- 1
Wow, we're really all over the board, sheesh. So before I get to my thoughts on everyone, I want to officially cast my vote for
Funnygurl555.
So now onto the part where I analyze everyone.
Suspicions List, in no particular order (that won't come until later)
1. BlackDragonSlayer-
The only flag he's raised for me so far is his starting vote on an inactive player. Sure, the reasoning is valid, but also, it could very well be a setup. I've learned from TWG games in the past that voting for an inactive in the day generally looks sketchy. But I'm willing to waive these suspicions for now in favor of a Funnygurl vote.
2. hoggers-
...uh. I'm... not really sure what to say here. This person strikes me as town, which is really weird considering I'm normally suspicious of people as aggressive as they are playing. I'm not sure, this is mostly a gut feeling here, but after what happened with me getting the master wolf in the 100th game here, I've learned to trust my gut instinct a bit more. That doesn't mean I'm gonna just stop analyzing your posts, though. Also, you seem to be trying to stir activity. Good.
3. mikey-
I never can tell with you, and I don't think I ever will be able to. Your vote for EveningSun720 was never explained, and I still don't understand where that came from.
4. ShyYoshiGuy-
You've been generally inquisitive and trying to take active steps toward deducing wolfish plays, even if some of your theories have been deduced as flawed. You strike me as human. Probably the most of anyone currently.
5. E. Gadd Industries-
hecka sketch
6. Funnygurl555-
I still don't understand your $150 post, because if it had little purpose, why put it in the thread and not in the Discord? That would've been fine and I would've put my vote elsewhere, but then you started pushing hard for a mikey lynch, even changing your vote seemingly randomly from the same person mikey had voted for. I'm not sure what happened between the two of you, I'm guessing some sort of epic betrayal or other from another forum, but even so, if you're gonna be acting in the town's interest, you need to push that aside and at least give some sort of reasoning why mikey seems wolfish, reasoning that isn't based on past occurrences. Also self-wolfing seems to be perfectly reasonable as an opening move in a game like this where everyone starts with 3 lives. (Which I believe BDS also mentioned somewhere else)
7. EveningSun720-
I still don't understand the vote on you, or your advice in the Discord about not "going full clown" (although the clown emoji was used). You strike me as very disconcerting, especially for the post you made shortly thereafter claiming to have "a lot in store for the 'players' of this 'game.'" I also feel like the lack of explaining things isn't helping my views of anyone, and while it's been a while since I played TWG, it hasn't been so long that I shouldn't be completely in the dark about the vote placed on you. Not saying that adds to my suspicion of you, and if anything, makes you less suspicious in my eyes.I suppose I'll get a better read on you as you interact (hopefully with more clarity to your posts).
8. MadDemon-
Your relative inactivity during the first night phase, coupled with the fact that only one wolfing occurred, really doesn't help your case, but I'm still hesitant to say that correlation = causation here. You need to post some in the Discord chat, because that real-time interaction will help me develop my read on you. That said, your posts here seem to be mostly logical, or at least town leaning.
Okay, that was more than I was expecting. I think that if BDS were to be a wolf, his most logical pairing would be EveningSun, although this is almost solely based on brief interactions and the fact that they voted the same. And have been the only group so far to vote that way, with BDS' reasoning being based on inactivity. At this moment, I'm uncertain who a wolf pair with Funnygurl555 would be.
Plot twist and it's actually them and mikey as wolves.So there are all of my thoughts wrapped up in one. I know I haven't been the most contributive in the game thread, but I try to stay around on Discord and am willing to talk with anyone there about anything.
Oh, just so people are aware, I had pre-typed that list at the top of my previous post, and so the asterisk next to BDS' vote served as a reminder to myself to bring up the point about the inactivity vote. I forgot to delete it, sorry
k
even though ive found no use for it but k
Good, I like the analysis.
Also, keep in mind that because of the life system, lynching someone isn't a permanent goodbye, unless the wolves really hate someone, or unless some wacky life shenanigans go on. We still need to be careful, but at this point in the game, a mislynch isn't catastrophic.
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on July 11, 2019, 09:37:37 PMGood, I like the analysis.
Also, keep in mind that because of the life system, lynching someone isn't a permanent goodbye, unless the wolves really hate someone, or unless some wacky life shenanigans go on. We still need to be careful, but at this point in the game, a mislynch isn't catastrophic.
you plan for failure for town to fail. you no helpful, you seek catastrophe hoping disaster, but only disaster will be for wolf team. you better run, pppepperoni, or you suffer big loss today. i give you head start.
Quote from: MadDemon on July 11, 2019, 07:55:48 PMlemme fix that for the blind
You are the scum, yes?
Quote from: hoggers on July 11, 2019, 09:02:13 PMwhat you people doing? the dingdongdragon boy should be dead already.
hey eveningbum guy, who you doing? where you come from? i know no eveningbum, i no see you anywhere. you cheating?
Let me just say this. I don't know who you are, but call me by my name. It's EveningSun720. I expect you to remember that, hoggers.
If you ever call me EveningBum again, I will not only reign on your parade with the help of the moderators, but I will destroy you with my two hands.
The BlackDragon Man is clearly town, hoggers.
You and I both know it, so stop trying to take him donw 2 levels.
Quote from: hoggers on July 11, 2019, 09:40:44 PMyou plan for failure for town to fail. you no helpful, you seek catastrophe hoping disaster, but only disaster will be for wolf team. you better run, pppepperoni, or you suffer big loss today. i give you head start.
Saying "town is probably gonna mess up a bunch along the way" is
not the same as wanting town to fail.
I am just documenting this here in case anyone missed it, because I feel like this is important.
Chat log from Discord
EveningSun720ayer a las 23:47
hoggers is a clown.
Just follow me.
I'm a power role.
mikeyayer a las 23:48
Oh? What are you claiming
EveningSun720ayer a las 23:48
I can't claim yet.
You don't know my alignment.
BlackDragonSlayerayer a las 23:48
uh
mikeyayer a las 23:48
Vote stays tbh
BlackDragonSlayerayer a las 23:49
"I'm a power role but I can't claim which one" is kind of suspicious.
EveningSun720ayer a las 23:49
Do you have a problem, BlackDragon?
BlackDragonSlayerayer a las 23:49
Like, if you're ACTUALLY claiming, the wolves don't really care which one you are, so you better get that info out there/
EveningSun720ayer a las 23:49
Lol.
I'm the Banker.
BlackDragonSlayerayer a las 23:50
why would you claim though
EveningSun720ayer a las 23:50
Wolves got 300
BlackDragonSlayerayer a las 23:50
it's much too early for claims
EveningSun720ayer a las 23:50
You just asked me to
Okay
you're definitely scum for that.
BlackDragonSlayerayer a las 23:50
You started it.
EveningSun720ayer a las 23:50
You just told me to claim and now you're burying me for it.
BlackDragonSlayerayer a las 23:50
You're the one who said you're a power role.
ShyYoshiGuyayer a las 23:50
Why did you claim power rule in the first place?
EveningSun720ayer a las 23:50
Yea duh.
But you said
mikeyayer a las 23:50
This is fine
EveningSun720ayer a las 23:50
"Scum doesn't care which one you are, so just say it"
Can nobody see what he was trying to pull?
mikeyayer a las 23:50
Just buy wolfsbane every night
BlackDragonSlayerayer a las 23:50
Yeah, because you already claimed.
EveningSun720ayer a las 23:50
He's trying to shade me for something he asked me to do.
Loil
BlackDragonSlayerayer a las 23:51
I'm shading you for claiming power role in the first place.
You should have kept that quiet.
EveningSun720ayer a las 23:51
A town would never shade
you're a clown.
BlackDragonSlayerayer a las 23:51
What I said is that, now that you had already claimed, you might as well give town any help you can by claiming you're specific role.
mikeyayer a las 23:51
Alrighty then
...please ignore the fact that my Discord is in Spanish. Ayer means "Yesterday," in case you weren't aware.
So the biggest thing to get from this:
EveningSun720 claimed banker. Are there any counterclaims?
Quote from: EveningSun720 on July 11, 2019, 09:46:36 PMYou are the scum, yes?
Let me just say this. I don't know who you are, but call me by my name. It's EveningSun720. I expect you to remember that, hoggers.
If you ever call me EveningBum again, I will not only reign on your parade with the help of the moderators, but I will destroy you with my two hands.
i sorry, i really bad with nicknames. if this what make you so mad in chat i mean no disrespect. you can be friend yes?
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on July 11, 2019, 09:47:52 PMSaying "town is probably gonna mess up a bunch along the way" is not the same as wanting town to fail.
you are hurting morale so your team can sweep in and take us from behind when we feel low
no think i see not your play villain
Quote from: E. Gadd Industries on July 11, 2019, 10:04:21 PMEveningSun720 claimed banker. Are there any counterclaims?
Is this a vote?
Oh, no it isn't. My vote is still Funnygurl555.
I was just bolding the whole statement so people read it.
Quote from: hoggers on July 11, 2019, 10:04:36 PMi sorry, i really bad with nicknames. if this what make you so mad in chat i mean no disrespect. you can be friend yes?
We'll see, sir.
shyyoshiguy
Incidentally I'm starting to wonder if it's actually a good idea for our PRs to claim?
Quote from: EveningSun720 on July 11, 2019, 10:07:18 PMWe'll see, sir.
i play mafia to make friends who understand what it mean to be a true hero. much fun along way, winning not as important as long as learn something.
are you true hero or are you wolf trying make me feel bad?
Quote from: hoggers on July 11, 2019, 10:13:27 PMflyyoshiman
I refuse to believe you're just "bad with names". That's just, urg, not important. Why are you voting me though? Neither of you have explained. I'm keeping my vote with FG, even though hoggers bandwagoning with mikey doesn't quite make sense to me.
Quote from: ShyYoshiGuy on July 11, 2019, 10:17:47 PMI refuse to believe you're just "bad with names". That's just, urg, not important. Why are you voting me though? Neither of you have explained. I'm keeping my vote with FG, even though hoggers bandwagoning with mikey doesn't quite make sense to me.
those who say why me and not why not them dedicate self centered mindset as wolf
Quote from: hoggers on July 11, 2019, 10:20:03 PMthose who say why me and not why not them dedicate self centered mindset as wolf
I've been asking why people are voting the way they are the whole time, not just when he voted me. It makes the game easier to understand when people actually explain their votes and not just put them out there.
Quote from: hoggers on July 11, 2019, 10:05:24 PMyou are hurting morale so your team can sweep in and take us from behind when we feel low
no think i see not your play villain
No, I'm just being realistic. Besides, if people think they have to get everything perfect, then everyone's gonna be stressed, hence poorer performance.
Quote from: mikey on July 11, 2019, 10:08:46 PMshyyoshiguy
Incidentally I'm starting to wonder if it's actually a good idea for our PRs to claim?
I'm actually really impressed with Shy so far this game. He could be a wolf who's trying hard because he wants to win, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt so far.
Quote from: ShyYoshiGuy on July 11, 2019, 10:24:00 PMI've been asking why people are voting the way they are the whole time, not just when he voted me. It makes the game easier to understand when people actually explain their votes and not just put them out there.
Exactly this. Unless you're just voting to stimulate activity or get something out there (as in a lot of super active TWGs), you've got to explain your reasoning so that people can understand you and potentially follow your vote along, and make arguments for or against your vote.
did the phase end
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on July 11, 2019, 10:30:47 PMI'm actually really impressed with Shy so far this game.
I don't know if you're just saying this, but thank you, heh. This game is hard.
I'm going to bed. Interested to see how the rest of this phase plays out in the morning.
Quote from: hoggers on July 11, 2019, 10:09:11 PMi play mafia to make friends who understand what it mean to be a true hero. much fun along way, winning not as important as long as learn something.
are you true hero or are you wolf trying make me feel bad?
Can I place my trust in you?
mikey (ugh) brought up that bds had a dumbtell and i always take dumbtells so i have to *sniffle* town-read him for now
i don't believe eveningsun's claim but i don't believe the claim makes him scummy or anything
*her
TWG CXIII: Screw Strategy, We Have Money!1. Wolf
2. Wolf
Wolves know eachother. The wolf team share their money.
Each wolf has a wolfing of his own, meaning that as long as both wolves wolf, two lives will be lost each night phase.
3. Banker - Is told the amount of money all wolf players combined have as well as the amount of money all humans have combined at the end of each night phase.
4. Businessman - Earns NSM$150 at the end of each day phase rather than NSM$100
5. Human
6. Human
7. Human
8. Human
Each player starts with 3 lives. Wolfings and lynchings each take away one life.
The wolf team starts with NSM$300. Each Human starts with NSM$200. At the end of each day phase each Human earns NSM$100 (except the Businessman who earns NSM$150 instead).
Whenever a player dies(=loses all lives) by lynching or wolfing, the wolves will steal all of the killed player's money. If the kill was an item kill, the player responsible for the killing will steal all of the killed players money (if the killed player was the first wolf player to die, only half of the wolf team's money will go to the player responsable).
During the night phase, players can buy items with their money. Passive items will only last for the next day phase and the next night phase. Active items can only be used during the next night phase unless stated otherwise.
In any case all items will be useless after one day phase and one night phase after they have been bought.list of items
Poison Dart (poisons the player shot, causing that player to lose a life at the end of the next night unless that player buys an antidote during that night. Poisoned players will be told that they are poisoned) – NSM$75
Gun (takes one life away from the player shot) – NSM$100
Bulletproof Vest (protects the player from guns and snipers, but not from wolfings and poison darts) – NSM$100
Silent Sniper (takes one lives away from the player shot, can be fired in the middle of any phase. Unless this kills that player, this loss of life will not be mentioned until the end of the next night phase (thereby blending in with other kind of life loss)) – NSM$150
Silver (protects the owner from wolfings) - NSM$150
Antidote (when bought, the player will not lose a life due to poisoning that night) – NSM$150
Bribery (Your vote counts for 2 during the next day phase) – NSM$150
Steal-an-item item (target a player upon buying the item. If that player also buys an item during the same phase, you get that item instead) – NSM$175
Guardian Angel (protects from guns, snipers, poison darts, and wolfing attempts.) – NSM$200
Potion (Restores 1 life at the end of the next day phase. Doesn't work if the player has 3 lives remaining) – NSM$200
Duct Tape (Target a player during the night phase. That player will be unable to perform any action during the next night phase. Actions include wolfing, buying an item, using an item (except duct tape) and painting. Also prevents passive items from working and if the banker is targeted it prevents him from learning the amount of money each team has and if the businessman is targeted he will only receive NSM$100 during that night phase.) – NSM$300
Super Bribery (Your vote counts for 4 during the next day phase) – NSM$300
Reflector (when targeted by a gun, a sniper or a poison dart, the shot is reflected to the user) – NSM$300
Tank (Target a player, that player will lose 3 lives. Also protects the owner from guns, snipers, poison darts, other tanks, wolfing attempts, but not from duct tape. Also prevents the owner from being lynched, in which case the player with the second most votes is lynched instead. Cannot be stolen) – NSM$500, each player can only buy one tank per game.
Wolves win when all humans are dead.
Humans win when all wolves are dead.
If there is one human alive and one wolf alive with both having one life at the start of the day phase and there is no vote manipulation, the game ends in a tie.
1. BlackDragonSlayer
2. hoggers
3. mikey
4. ShyYoshiGuy
5. E. Gadd Industries
6. Funnygurl555
7. EveningSun720
8. MadDemon
KitB! ShyYoshiGuy lost a life. It's now night 2. Night 2 ends July 13th 2:00AM PST, 3:00AM MST, 4:00AM CST, 5:00AM EST, 11:00AM CET.
Quote from: ShyYoshiGuy on July 11, 2019, 10:39:04 PMInterested to see how the rest of this phase plays out in the morning.
Which was apparently nothing. Also, mikey, daheq? How did that work? When I'm more awake, I'm gonna figure this out.
Quote from: ShyYoshiGuy on July 12, 2019, 02:57:27 AMWhich was apparently nothing. Also, mikey, daheq? How did that work? When I'm more awake, I'm gonna figure this out.
And yes, I know I slept four hours
mikey: Alrighty then
mikey: I'm going to vote syg
ShyYoshiGuy: Oof, why?
hoggers: i vote him, too
mikey: Because you rolled wolf :(
My message is timestamped 12:52:03. hoggers' is 12:52:12. I guess that's for you to decide if 9 seconds is enough time to make a value judgement for asking why they'll be voted, decide to vote for them, type it out on Discord, and send it. Because according to hoggers, his reason for voting me is my self-centered thinking, but he had already said in the Discord 19 seconds (mikey's second one listed here was 12:51:53) after mikey did that he was gonna vote me.
Votes:
mikey - SYG
ShyYoshiGuy - Funnygurl555
Funnygurl555 - mikey
hoggers - SYG
BlackDragonSlayer - MadDemon
EveningSun720 - MadDemon
MadDemon - ???
E. Gadd - FG
SYG- 2 (mikey, hoggers)
MD- 2 (BDS, ES)
FG- 2 (SYG, EGI)
mikey- 1 (FG)
No vote- (MD)
Oh, I see, MD and FG were both at 2. It could be either mikey x MD or mikey x FG, I was thinking there was only one person at 2.
Quote from: ShyYoshiGuy on July 12, 2019, 03:34:32 AMVotes:
mikey - SYG
ShyYoshiGuy - Funnygurl555
Funnygurl555 - mikey
hoggers - SYG
BlackDragonSlayer - MadDemon
EveningSun720 - MadDemon
MadDemon - ???
E. Gadd - FG
SYG- 2 (mikey, hoggers)
MD- 2 (BDS, ES)
FG- 2 (SYG, EGI)
mikey- 1 (FG)
No vote- (MD)
Oh, I see, MD and FG were both at 2. It could be either mikey x MD or mikey x FG, I was thinking there was only one person at 2.
I used your numbers btw, Gadd, thank you
I'm taking a nap. I'm'a give you a reads list later on in this phase, most likely. Gotta see how much time it'll take to unload the truck. I hope everybody else sees this the same way, this is utter crap, right? Gotta figure out which of FG or MD is more likely based on how they respond to this. I already thought wolf was FG, so it's not looking good for her. Ok, bye.
Quote from: ShyYoshiGuy on July 12, 2019, 03:26:06 AMmikey: Alrighty then
mikey: I'm going to vote syg
ShyYoshiGuy: Oof, why?
hoggers: i vote him, too
mikey: Because you rolled wolf :(
My message is timestamped 12:52:03. hoggers' is 12:52:12. I guess that's for you to decide if 9 seconds is enough time to make a value judgement for asking why they'll be voted, decide to vote for them, type it out on Discord, and send it. Because according to hoggers, his reason for voting me is my self-centered thinking, but he had already said in the Discord 19 seconds (mikey's second one listed here was 12:51:53) after mikey did that he was gonna vote me.
if you take 30 seconds to think about response that not my fault. train your brain to be better, do not disrespect my reaction time
Ok, so I explained myself on Discord. Although mikey's vote is weird, it only makes sense if hoggers is his partner. hoggers x mikey, FG, MD are the most likely for me. If the wolves get me (we have cardflips on, right?), my prime wolfread is hoggers.
hoggers deserves mvp
Quote from: ShyYoshiGuy on July 12, 2019, 08:30:21 AMOk, so I explained myself on Discord. Although mikey's vote is weird, it only makes sense if hoggers is his partner. hoggers x mikey, FG, MD are the most likely for me. If the wolves get me (we have cardflips on, right?), my prime wolfread is hoggers.
Cardflips are off
Reads list-
1. BlackDragonSlayer - town
Uses logic that makes sense from my perspective, makes sensible votes
2. hoggers - main wolfread
Makes weird votes I can only see from the perspective trying to save his partner, but not being too obvious. Also suspect for inactive wolf, not knowing what phase we started at
3. mikey - wolf
Makes weird votes too, but his second vote only makes sense if hoggers is also a wolf
5. E. Gadd Industries - town
Uses logic, explains himself, makes respectable votes
6. Funnygurl555 - wolf
So, we got: trying to shift blame on mikey for a grudge in a different game, having two votes before hoggers voted, and that slip
7. EveningSun720 - neutral
Doesn't post as much of her thoughts, but still makes respectable votes and isn't associated with hoggers' weird vote
8. MadDemon - wolf
Suspect for inactive wolf. It's still possible hoggers is the inactive wolf but it's at least less likely. And also having two votes before hoggers voted.
Quote from: davy on July 12, 2019, 08:45:04 AMCardflips are off
Aw man. Welp, here's to hoping I don't get ambushed by the wolves.
preflip association are house of cards. one small mistakeo, and blow over it will. you play dangerous game here, and not look like it work for you.
you get one more chance
What the hell? Why did you vote for Shy?
I did. I saw no worthwhile explanation.
So let me get this straight...
Hoggers voted ShyYoshiGuy after offering the explanation that Shy was too self-centered in thinking. But the post that warranted this (correct me if I'm wrong) was simply Shy questioning mikey why mikey accused Shy of being a wolf. I strongly believe that that's a natural response to being accused of being a wolf, asking why you're being accused, so I would like to post the question to you specifically, Hoggers:
If someone accused you of being a wolf similarly to the way mikey accused Shy (in a somewhat joking and/or unexplained way), how would you respond? I would assume it wouldn't be "Why do you accuse me?", because that's "too self-centered." Also, you might want to know that you won't get far in a game like this by, when asked for reasoning, you simply say "Read" and nothing more. Everyone worth their salt in this game reads, so if we're not understanding to the point of asking questions, it might be worthwhile to explain it.
Sadly, though, it seems this game is plagued with a lack of explanation and that leaves people like me who are still not all that familiar with the intricacies of more advanced playing (although I'm not so sure I'd call this game "advanced playing") in the dark. If people would actually take the time to explain their votes, they might be able to actually persuade me to support their cause.
I didn't intend on making a rant post, but do try to explain your actions when playing. If at the very least, it makes it easier for town to cooperate and makes you look less wolfish (unless you are a wolf, in which case it might reveal your colors).
this not a cause to support. this a decision you come to when you view both player word and find truth. i no vote to kill, i vote to be informed.
why me mean person evil. instead of why me, i attack person argument and offer people who are wolfy or say person attacking me is wolf. town focus less on defense and more offense because they know they good. no need to defend when they feel they should be townread already.
How can someone defend against an argument they don't know the reasoning to!!??
Also, I disagree that town is always offensive. An accused town often has to be defensive, or else they're going to end up on the lynching plate.
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on July 12, 2019, 11:04:26 AMHow can someone defend against an argument they don't know the reasoning to!!??
reasoning clear
self centered. how not be self centered? just think of word. self. centered. focus on others and not self. make read that involve not who pushing you but who shying away. he no do this
Quote from: hoggers on July 12, 2019, 10:52:46 AMi attack person argument and offer people who are wolfy or say person attacking me is wolf.
That's what I did. I said the person attacking me, you, is wolf. I can't attack your argument if you don't have one.
Quote from: ShyYoshiGuy on July 12, 2019, 11:40:32 AMThat's what I did. I said the person attacking me, you, is wolf. I can't attack your argument if you don't have one.
yes but you reason suck. independantly that also make you wolfy, but it not the starting basis of vote which was question. you no attack mikey or engage and only say why me. then i vote for this and again why me come up but when you think my argument is weak is when you strike. cowardly and wolfy action. only to when you understood argument strong did you enlist help of wolf friend
You accuse Shy of his reasoning being off, and yet when you are directly asked for reasoning, all you say is
Quote from: hoggers on July 12, 2019, 11:06:21 AMreasoning clear
When obviously it is not bc multiple people have asked you to explain further.
But on another note, so had mikey accused you, you wouldn't have asked "Why are you accusing me?" and instead would have just started accusing him? From your perspective, that works because you know your role, whatever that may be. But think about it from ours. We don't know you're human, even if I had town-read you in an earlier post. So if you, instead of trying to figure out why, immediately start pointing fingers back,
that looks more defensive than anything else.
let me explain in way you american understand
Quote from: E. Gadd Industries on July 12, 2019, 11:52:33 AMYou accuse Shy of his reasoning being off, and yet when you are directly asked for reasoning, all you say isWhen obviously it is not bc multiple people have asked you to explain further.
But on another note, so had mikey accused you, you wouldn't have asked "Why are you accusing me?" and instead would have just started accusing him? From your perspective, that works because you know your role, whatever that may be. But think about it from ours. We don't know you're human, even if I had town-read you in an earlier post. So if you, instead of trying to figure out why, immediately start pointing fingers back, that looks more defensive than anything else.
you no listen i no speak
We can lynch Hoggers the bully tomorrow/
TWG CXIII: Screw Strategy, We Have Money!1. Wolf
2. Wolf
Wolves know eachother. The wolf team share their money.
Each wolf has a wolfing of his own, meaning that as long as both wolves wolf, two lives will be lost each night phase.
3. Banker - Is told the amount of money all wolf players combined have as well as the amount of money all humans have combined at the end of each night phase.
4. Businessman - Earns NSM$150 at the end of each day phase rather than NSM$100
5. Human
6. Human
7. Human
8. Human
Each player starts with 3 lives. Wolfings and lynchings each take away one life.
The wolf team starts with NSM$300. Each Human starts with NSM$200. At the end of each day phase each Human earns NSM$100 (except the Businessman who earns NSM$150 instead).
Whenever a player dies(=loses all lives) by lynching or wolfing, the wolves will steal all of the killed player's money. If the kill was an item kill, the player responsible for the killing will steal all of the killed players money (if the killed player was the first wolf player to die, only half of the wolf team's money will go to the player responsable).
During the night phase, players can buy items with their money. Passive items will only last for the next day phase and the next night phase. Active items can only be used during the next night phase unless stated otherwise.
In any case all items will be useless after one day phase and one night phase after they have been bought.list of items
Poison Dart (poisons the player shot, causing that player to lose a life at the end of the next night unless that player buys an antidote during that night. Poisoned players will be told that they are poisoned) – NSM$75
Gun (takes one life away from the player shot) – NSM$100
Bulletproof Vest (protects the player from guns and snipers, but not from wolfings and poison darts) – NSM$100
Silent Sniper (takes one lives away from the player shot, can be fired in the middle of any phase. Unless this kills that player, this loss of life will not be mentioned until the end of the next night phase (thereby blending in with other kind of life loss)) – NSM$150
Silver (protects the owner from wolfings) - NSM$150
Antidote (when bought, the player will not lose a life due to poisoning that night) – NSM$150
Bribery (Your vote counts for 2 during the next day phase) – NSM$150
Steal-an-item item (target a player upon buying the item. If that player also buys an item during the same phase, you get that item instead) – NSM$175
Guardian Angel (protects from guns, snipers, poison darts, and wolfing attempts.) – NSM$200
Potion (Restores 1 life at the end of the next day phase. Doesn't work if the player has 3 lives remaining) – NSM$200
Duct Tape (Target a player during the night phase. That player will be unable to perform any action during the next night phase. Actions include wolfing, buying an item, using an item (except duct tape) and painting. Also prevents passive items from working and if the banker is targeted it prevents him from learning the amount of money each team has and if the businessman is targeted he will only receive NSM$100 during that night phase.) – NSM$300
Super Bribery (Your vote counts for 4 during the next day phase) – NSM$300
Reflector (when targeted by a gun, a sniper or a poison dart, the shot is reflected to the user) – NSM$300
Tank (Target a player, that player will lose 3 lives. Also protects the owner from guns, snipers, poison darts, other tanks, wolfing attempts, but not from duct tape. Also prevents the owner from being lynched, in which case the player with the second most votes is lynched instead. Cannot be stolen) – NSM$500, each player can only buy one tank per game.
Wolves win when all humans are dead.
Humans win when all wolves are dead.
If there is one human alive and one wolf alive with both having one life at the start of the day phase and there is no vote manipulation, the game ends in a tie.
1. BlackDragonSlayer
2. hoggers
3. mikey
4. ShyYoshiGuy
5. E. Gadd Industries
6. Funnygurl555
7. EveningSun720
8. MadDemon
E. Gadd Industries lost two lives. It's now day 2. Day 2 ends July 15th 2:00AM PST, 3:00AM MST, 4:00AM CST, 5:00AM EST, 11:00AM CET.
Ok, fine, I'm just gonna ignore mikey and hoggers' votes, whatever. They were testing me, I guess. (If only mikey had actually ever said that.) There's no possible way the votes were to save their wolf partner, they would have just voted for the other one of MD and FG. If we say Gadd (Ambushed), mikey (Sniper), and ES (No counterclaim) are town, that leaves hoggers, BDS, FG, and MD. That's six possible pairings, here goes ruling them out.
hoggers x BDS - Made a case against him and voted him. Also arguing about votes and stuff, nah. Off the table.
hoggers x FG, MD - Would have actually saved them instead of voting me. Off the table.
BDS x MD - Voted him for being inactive because of the inactive wolf. Off the table.
That leaves FG x BDS, MD. I already thought FG was wolf last day phase, so this isn't looking good for her. We could go a step further and say MD is the only inactive of those three so it's FG x MD, but that's not really a sure thing. Unless someone like really played me here, it's definitely FG and either BDS or MD. My vote returns to Funnygirl555.
Quote from: ShyYoshiGuy on July 13, 2019, 05:23:23 AMOk, fine, I'm just gonna ignore mikey and hoggers' votes, whatever. They were testing me, I guess. (If only mikey had actually ever said that.) There's no possible way the votes were to save their wolf partner, they would have just voted for the other one of MD and FG. If we say Gadd (Ambushed), mikey (Sniper), and ES (No counterclaim) are town, that leaves hoggers, BDS, FG, and MD. That's six possible pairings, here goes ruling them out.
hoggers x BDS - Made a case against him and voted him. Also arguing about votes and stuff, nah. Off the table.
hoggers x FG, MD - Would have actually saved them instead of voting me. Off the table.
BDS x MD - Voted him for being inactive because of the inactive wolf. Off the table.
That leaves FG x BDS, MD. I already thought FG was wolf last day phase, so this isn't looking good for her. We could go a step further and say MD is the only inactive of those three so it's FG x MD, but that's not really a sure thing. Unless someone like really played me here, it's definitely FG and either BDS or MD. My vote returns to Funnygirl555.
something that fucked me over in the last zd game was trying to make associations like this when people were alive. so i had t/t "wolf pairings" i caught 0 wolves o god o god o god
you're assuming that i'm a wolf here, and unfortunately your read is erroneous. that's gonna fuck with how you view the game.
shyyoshiguy i haven't liked the things you've posted so far. i think you've been prodding in the wrong directions, with reasoning that should appear sound. i overlooked this and dropped a wolf read in the last twg i played 'cause i chalked it up to "n00b play" nOt ToDaY
you're a much more confident player than the first game i played with you.
that's good keep it up
I just realized I spelled Funnygurl555 wrong, oof.
Quote from: Funnygurl555 on July 13, 2019, 05:45:17 AMsomething that fucked me over in the last zd game was trying to make associations like this when people were alive. so i had t/t "wolf pairings" i caught 0 wolves o god o god o god
Sorry, would please explain further what this means? What's a t/t "wolf pairing"? And also, what exactly went wrong? What in particular in your pairing strategy didn't work, so I can see if this applies here.
Quote from: Funnygurl555 on July 13, 2019, 05:45:17 AMyou're assuming that i'm a wolf here, and unfortunately your read is erroneous. that's gonna fuck with how you view the game.
shyyoshiguy i haven't liked the things you've posted so far. i think you've been prodding in the wrong directions, with reasoning that should appear sound. i overlooked this and dropped a wolf read in the last twg i played 'cause i chalked it up to "n00b play" nOt ToDaY
I totally expected that. My conclusion is wrong because obviously you're town so obviously I'm wolf. Valid thing to say, it's fine. That's a vote that actually makes sense,
looks at mikey and hoggers.
Quote from: Funnygurl555 on July 13, 2019, 05:47:38 AMyou're a much more confident player than the first game i played with you.
that's good keep it up
Hehe, ok, ty.
one wrong assumption snowballed into all of my associations being wack. as in, i town read the godfather, and that lead me to wolf read a town.
the strategy works when you happen to have really good reads, but all too often we scum read a town and vice versa.
Quote from: Funnygurl555 on July 13, 2019, 06:00:18 AMone wrong assumption snowballed into all of my associations being wack. as in, i town read the godfather, and that lead me to wolf read a town.
the strategy works when you happen to have really good reads, but all too often we scum read a town and vice versa.
Yeah, yeah, ok, sure. I guess that makes sense. It's just the best I got, so I'm going with it. Though the possibility of, as I put it, "someone like
really playing here" is probably actually higher than I think. The best wolf strategies are the ones that leave you surprised, right? (I made that up, those might actually be the worst strategies, I dunno, don't ask me.) I'm sticking with this for now, the problem is getting everyone else to agree.
Quote from: Funnygurl555 on July 13, 2019, 05:47:38 AMyou're a much more confident player than the first game i played with you.
that's good keep it up
It's cause he's w and already knows his narrative
Everyone please claim your item purchases and shots from y yesterday
Quote from: mikey on July 13, 2019, 07:50:11 AMIt's cause he's w and already knows his narrative
honestly that's what i think it is
nsm people, how does shyyoshiguy normally play? i like meta; gimme ur meta
Item claims so far:
Mikey- guardian angel (200)
Funnygurl- guardian angel (200)
SYG- nothing
E Gadd- nothing
Hoggers- gun (100)
Need bds, evening sun, and mad demon to claim buys
Why are we claiming items publicly when Duct Tape is a thing? This is pretty much just painting a target on who is the best one to block!
Also, right now I'm most suspicious of Hoggers and (still) MadDemon. I'll explain more about all my suspicions when I'm not on mobile
IN ADDITION, I'd like to ask why the people who bought Guardian Angels bought Guardian Angels instead of just saving money and buying Silver. Are you really that worried about people shooting you that you thought it would be a good idea to spend the extra money?
Yes
A majority of the deaths in this game ought to be from guns, not wolfings
Just to hammer in a final point, if the wolves bought snipers, now they know who's safe to target because they can avoid people they know have Guardian Angels. It would've been better to keep this quiet just in case the wolves bought snipers so they could potentially waste them.
Quote from: mikey on July 13, 2019, 01:04:24 PMYes
A majority of the deaths in this game ought to be from guns, not wolfings
Think of this from someone else's perspective... you think you're suspicious enough to get shot by another human?
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on July 13, 2019, 01:05:39 PMJust to hammer in a final point, if the wolves bought snipers, now they know who's safe to target because they can avoid people they know have Guardian Angels. It would've been better to keep this quiet just in case the wolves bought snipers so they could potentially waste them.
guardian angels are no longer active
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on July 13, 2019, 01:08:09 PMThink of this from someone else's perspective... you think you're suspicious enough to get shot by another human?
I'm not going to waste time letting you put it together
Wolves can buy guns too
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on July 13, 2019, 01:01:42 PMIN ADDITION, I'd like to ask why the people who bought Guardian Angels bought Guardian Angels instead of just saving money and buying Silver. Are you really that worried about people shooting you that you thought it would be a good idea to spend the extra money?
did you see the attention on me last phase?
Quote from: mikey on July 13, 2019, 01:15:25 PMguardian angels are no longer active
I'm not going to waste time letting you put it together
Wolves can buy guns too
iirc next day and night phase
oh well i bought it n2 not n1 y'all saw what went on w/ me n1
didn't buy anything then was thinking of rly saving up for that tank
Quote from: mikey on July 13, 2019, 01:15:25 PMguardian angels are no longer active
Quote from: davy on July 08, 2019, 10:55:33 AMPassive items will only last for the next day phase and the next night phase.
I feel the need to point out that if anyone bought a Guardian Angel last night phase, they would not be active last night phase and instead would be active this day phase and next night phase.
Quote from: mikey on July 13, 2019, 01:15:25 PMguardian angels are no longer active
I'm not going to waste time letting you put it together
Wolves can buy guns too
Humans both outnumber and out-cash wolves; most of the shooting will likely be done by humans, not wolves. Besides, wolves are probably gonna buy snipers, and now that you've announced that you're safe from those, you're obviously not going to be a target... not that you would be anyway, which still makes you wonder why you bought the Guardian Angels instead.
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on July 13, 2019, 04:40:34 PMyou're obviously not going to be a target... not that you would be anyway
To clarify, this is because you're such a wildcard and still a pretty decent lynch target.
im not claiming anything
somebody brought up the point that massclaiming is an issue and duct tape can mess everything up here
people i see benefiting off this massclaim are wolves, and wolves alone
mikey has tried to ease into the idea that our prs should claim as well
Quote from: mikey on July 11, 2019, 10:08:46 PMshyyoshiguy
Incidentally I'm starting to wonder if it's actually a good idea for our PRs to claim?
hes fishing for information which is wolfy as all hell
and for a partner id have to say funnygurl, she made a fake ass push on mikey and dropped it like it was nothing
mikeythis whole inactive argument is dumb as hell
i made one post during night 1, which means i was there for a time
mikey
Vote breakdown so far:
mikey- 2 (MD, FG)
FG- 1 (SYG)
(The vote breakdown helps me, don't judge.)
First FG votes me when I accuse him, and then this:
Quote from: MadDemon on July 13, 2019, 05:24:20 PMand for a partner id have to say funnygurl, she made a fake ass push on mikey and dropped it like it was nothing
Quote from: Funnygurl555 on July 13, 2019, 06:29:28 PMmikey
Ok, I'm seeing FG x mikey a possibility as well, maybe that partially explains mikey's vote for me... somehow. Haven't worked it out yet. I dunno, I still think FG is wolf.
girl is in the name lol
Quote from: MadDemon on July 13, 2019, 06:59:20 PMgirl is in the name lol
Did I use the wrong pronoun again? Man, I'm bad at that. Sorry, FG.
Quote from: ShyYoshiGuy on July 13, 2019, 07:00:29 PMDid I use the wrong pronoun again? Man, I'm bad at that. Sorry, FG.
ha
im sure its fine
im not sure if i really see fg and mikey anymore however
she was very willing to jump on the wagon
whether shes serious or not idk she might unvote
but currently i feel its unlikely as there was no hesitation
im a strong independent african american female
Quote from: MadDemon on July 13, 2019, 07:03:09 PMha
im sure its fine
im not sure if i really see fg and mikey anymore however
she was very willing to jump on the wagon
whether shes serious or not idk she might unvote
but currently i feel its unlikely as there was no hesitation
If not FG as partner, then who do you think it is? Or are you no longer sure?
Quote from: ShyYoshiGuy on July 13, 2019, 08:07:32 PMIf not FG as partner, then who do you think it is? Or are you no longer sure?
i mean it could be an attempt to dissuade me
if anybody else then eveningsun, somethings always been off about her
me as in everybody who has an eye on them
Wolves has $0 what happened.
Quote from: hoggers on July 12, 2019, 11:56:37 AMlet me explain in way you american understand
uh wai-
uh
in the mine im mining diamonds (buh buh buh buh!)
watch me craft a fuckin sword Bit (bit!)
All the creepers love this shit.
Mess with me and u get hit.
Diamond armor on my dick (dick!)
Watch out cuz I got that stick (stick!)
If Hoggers doesn't shoot by tomorrow he is the wolf, no joke.
Quote from: EveningSun720 on July 13, 2019, 09:29:36 PMWolves has $0 what happened.
How much did they have beforehand?
Most suspicious at the top, least suspicious at the bottom.
WOLF ALARM
1. MadDemon: Of all the people who posted Night 1, he posted the least. The most likely candidate for an inactive wolf scenario who couldn't get online enough to discuss with his partner who to wolf.
2. Hoggers: The way Hoggers has been acting is very bizarre, the not the least of which is his Shy vote last Day and strange explanation surrounding it. If he's a human, he's like Mikey and being what I like to call a "wildcard" (someone who acts completely nonsensical regardless of their role) but I'd rather not discard my suspicion of him based on that.
SUS SAUCE
3. mikey: Was originally below FG, but now above because of recent events. He's always a wildcard, and that alone is no reason to suspect him, but he's definitely been fishing for claims, and making a noob mistake like not specifying which night he was referring to seems bizarre unless it was intentional.
4. Funnygurl555: She's been suspicious ever since "the slip," and she really hasn't done anything to convince me otherwise, especially after her weird, seeming out-of-game-motivated push on Mikey last day.
LESS SUSPICIOUS
5. ShyYoshiGuy: Has shown genuine intent and improvement from previous games, even if I don't believe he's always on the mark.
6. E. Gadd Industries: Just got hit twice. Not a smart move to make yourself so vulnerable by taking two shots as a wolf. Not only that, it's clear why he got hit too: he's been super helpful and good at analysis.
PROBABLY NOT WOLF
7. EveningSun720: Uncounterclaimed. Either the real Banker is playing it safe and doesn't want to die, or they're the real deal. If you ignore the claim they're pretty neutral.
Mikey x MadDemon is less likely unless they're doing some crazy distancing tactic, though could be possible. I could see MadDemon x Hoggers or MadDemon x Funnygurl. I do like how MadDemon called out Mikey today, although I still can't get the idea of the inactive wolf out of my head. Mikey x Hoggers is a possibility, although I don't know how likely they would be to vote Shy together last phase. Hoggers x Funny is a possibility, though less likely.
This took me like 5 hours to do lol
the entire inactivity argument is bs
i made a post, which signified i was on, and i could shoot someone regardless of contact or not
Quote from: MadDemon on July 13, 2019, 09:56:11 PMthe entire inactivity argument is bs
i made a post, which signified i was on, and i could shoot someone regardless of contact or not
wolf partners usually like to discuss with each other before they shoot
especially in a game like this where they
need to coordinate their kills
and honestly it's not surprising that you could just get on, post once, and forget about the rest of the phase
If you have any suggestions who would make a better inactive wolf, please feel free to make suggestions.
what if
just think about this for a sec
there isnt an inactive wolf
If that's your best response to being suspected, that's a pretty poor one.
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on July 13, 2019, 10:32:35 PMIf that's your best response to being suspected, that's a pretty poor one.
listen man idfk
i just know im not the wolf, and the only other relatively inactive dude was eveningsun, who is almost a confirmed pr
thats the only thought that comes to mind
person, my b
anyone could be it, especially since i believe everyone made atleast one post
in my case, you say:
"wolf partners usually like to discuss with each other before they shoot
especially in a game like this where they need to coordinate their kills"
taking a shot is still better than nothing
Quote from: MadDemon on July 13, 2019, 10:56:26 PMlisten man idfk
i just know im not the wolf, and the only other relatively inactive dude was eveningsun, who is almost a confirmed pr
thats the only thought that comes to mind
I'm not that convinced, and I'm not that convinced of other reasons why the wolves might forgo a kill.
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on July 13, 2019, 11:09:47 PMI'm not that convinced, and I'm not that convinced of other reasons why the wolves might forgo a kill.
not convinced of eveningsun being a pr?
Quote from: MadDemon on July 13, 2019, 10:31:12 PMwhat if
just think about this for a sec
there isnt an inactive wolf
I thought this over, and there might be some validity here. If mikey is a wolf, I could see him trying to pull some crazy weird tactic that involves having him or a partner not vote in order to throw suspicion onto a less active person. Sure, it might not be a
smart strategy, but if MadDemon is town, then it seems to be working well on BDS.
Also to note, based on what's happened up to now (although I haven't read the Discord since around 14 hours ago), my suspicions have shifted a little bit. I'll think them over, finalize them, and then post my thoughts on the game as a whole tomorrow.
I'm down to Lynch MafiaDemon today.
Then if Elijah shoots, hopefully the wolf, game over or 1 more.
If Elijah doesn't shoot anything, then he is the wolf based on money and his claim of buying gun.
Everyone good with this?
Quote from: EveningSun720 on July 14, 2019, 02:17:00 AMI'm down to Lynch MafiaDemon today.
Then if Elijah shoots, hopefully the wolf, game over or 1 more.
If Elijah doesn't shoot anything, then he is the wolf based on money and his claim of buying gun.
Everyone good with this?
Elijah being hoggers?
Yes I think the game is just bds&syg
If one of you two are a pr you should claim because I will be sinking as many shots into these slots as possible and anyone who thinks I'm town ought to do the same
shyyoshiguy
Quote from: mikey on July 14, 2019, 10:14:51 AMYes I think the game is just bds&syg
I see how you see that. You're wrong, but I see how you see that.
Quote from: MadDemon on July 13, 2019, 11:16:20 PMnot convinced of eveningsun being a pr?
Not that convinced that there wasn't an inactive wolf Night 1.
Quote from: mikey on July 14, 2019, 10:14:51 AMYes I think the game is just bds&syg
If one of you two are a pr you should claim because I will be sinking as many shots into these slots as possible and anyone who thinks I'm town ought to do the same
shyyoshiguy
can you stop being a drain on the human team pls
I honestly want to vote Mikey because he's being so counterproductive to the human team, and because he's already in the lead with votes as far as I can tell. But for now I'll stick with my guns and vote MadDemon.
mikey- 2 (MD, FG)
FG- 1 (SYG)
SYG- 1 (mikey)
MD- 1 (BDS)
Correct?
Ok, this is us agreeing on a vote. mikey's pretty sus even though he's not my prime suspect.
mikey
If nobody else voted for MD by midnight my time I'll probably change my vote to Mikey just to hammer it in.
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on July 14, 2019, 02:31:35 PMIf nobody else voted for MD by midnight my time I'll probably change my vote to Mikey just to hammer it in.
Ok
Quote from: ShyYoshiGuy on July 14, 2019, 12:51:25 PMI see how you see that. You're wrong, but I see how you see that.
if it's not bds then who is your partner?
I'm pretty sure it's bds. He's town reading you for no reason, making a mountain out of a molehill just to be able to vote me (even when his language implies he knows I'm town "stop being a drain on the human team" which besides that is actually rude when iv e probably solved the game) and he was shading me in the discord earlier though to be fair he never actually turned the shade into a scum read
So yeah
I'm not wrong
Quote from: mikey on July 14, 2019, 03:13:55 PMHe's town reading you for no reason
Not true, besides, you're wolf reading him for even less of a reason.
Quotemaking a mountain out of a molehill just to be able to vote me (even when his language implies he knows I'm town "stop being a drain on the human team"
See, the thing is, I don't know you're town, especially with how you're acting. Besides, you can be a drain on the human team as a wolf too, just means you're being a bit "on the nose." Also watchu mean "making a mountain out of a molehill." You've digging your own hole with ever step you make dude. It's not just one thing, it's an accumulating of a bunch of things which add together.
Quotewhich besides that is actually rude when iv e probably solved the game)
uh huh
sure you have
i serious doubt that even if you are a human
Quoteand he was shading me in the discord earlier though to be fair he never actually turned the shade into a scum read
excuse me what
did you even read my suspicion list
Quote from: mikey on July 14, 2019, 03:13:55 PMif it's not bds then who is your partner?
I'm pretty sure it's bds. He's town reading you for no reason, making a mountain out of a molehill just to be able to vote me (even when his language implies he knows I'm town "stop being a drain on the human team" which besides that is actually rude when iv e probably solved the game) and he was shading me in the discord earlier though to be fair he never actually turned the shade into a scum read
So yeah
I'm not wrong
Well, wrong because I'm not wolf.
Quote from: ShyYoshiGuy on July 14, 2019, 04:20:07 PMWell, wrong because I'm not wolf.
Just saying, that's not a good argument. MadDemon used that argument too. "Well I know there's no inactive wolf because I'm not a wolf."
Also, curious, Noc, if I'm not a wolf, who's Shy's partner?
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on July 14, 2019, 04:21:53 PMJust saying, that's not a good argument. MadDemon used that argument too. "Well I know there's no inactive wolf because I'm not a wolf."
The point of my original message was that BDS and I seem like a sus pairing, I mostly agree, except for the fact that I have to deny it because what's the game if you admit you're wolf? I don't know if BDS agreeing with what I'm saying, reading me town and basically saying there's no reason to suspect me ("i just don't get your shy suspicion / it's random / it's like you don't know who else to suspect so you just go to him by default") is part of a wolfy plan to win me over to his side or what. I'm becoming less and less confident in my FG suspicion as this phase comes to a close. As I said before, BDS' actions seem off to me. I dunno, I think I should redo my pairing analysis.
Quote from: ShyYoshiGuy on July 14, 2019, 04:33:07 PMI dunno, I think I should redo my pairing analysis.
Nope, the same thing happened again. Instead, here's a reads list. Least to most sus:
1. ES - confirmed town
No counterclaim. Not much else to say.
2. EGI - town
Really haven't said all that much, but I know you've been busy. Getting ambushed by the wolves helps you too.
3. hoggers - town
Ok, fine, you're not a troll. Your speech is consistent with itself. Just because I don't understand you doesn't mean your arguments are invalid and it seems you make enough sense to enough people.
4. mikey - neutral
Ok, so there's the sniper thing, but then there's the claim thing. I really don't think the way you worded it should matter, foresight to write a message that'd be misinterpreted I'd assume is difficult. You still strike me in the wrong way, are you saying you voted me the first time because I sounded scripted?
5. MD - neutral
I'm not gonna take your n1 inactivity to the extreme of you being 100% wolf, but it's still an important thing. Your arguments are pretty sound and don't seem wolfy to me.
6. FG - wolf
What I've already said. You know the deal. The slip, (I no longer think you being bit first night makes you wolfy, but I'm not saying it makes you look any more town.), my pairing analysis, and voting me after being accused for no other reason than "You're wrong because I'm town". Also being about the only possible partner for BDS as far as I can tell certainly doesn't help your case.
7.
BDS - wolf
I think you're putting too much importance on the inactive thing. I see it entirely possible you didn't lynch anyone n1 so that you'd be able to use this strategy to target the most inactive. It was the first thing you went to once d1 started and you haven't let go of it. And admitting there're other candidates for inactive wolf weakens your case against MD, so you've failed to mention them. Finally, uh, see what I said in my latest message.
Sorry, BDS, changing my vote. The more I thought about it, the less I realized mikey was a good vote.
1: Where is Hoggers? He showed up earlier in Discord but seems to have mostly disappeared past that.
2: How am I the best partner for FG? Remember, a lot of people called me out earlier for "making a big deal out of" her slip(s).
Quote from: ShyYoshiGuy on July 14, 2019, 05:37:57 PM7. BDS - wolf
I think you're putting too much importance on the inactive thing. I see it entirely possible you didn't lynch anyone n1 so that you'd be able to use this strategy to target the most inactive. It was the first thing you went to once d1 started and you haven't let go of it. And admitting there're other candidates for inactive wolf weakens your case against MD, so you've failed to mention them. Finally, uh, see what I said in my latest message.
The "inactive thing" is literally the most solid lead we have right now. Also, you claim there are other candidates, but you fail to mention them, because, guess what, there are none. I already took a look at all the activity Night 1 and determined who was the most likely to be the inactive wolf. You can look back at my post (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/index.php?topic=10827.msg413244#msg413244) if you disagree with me.
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on July 14, 2019, 05:57:16 PM1: Where is Hoggers? He showed up earlier in Discord but seems to have mostly disappeared past that.
I was wondering the same thing.
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on July 14, 2019, 05:57:16 PM2: How am I the best partner for FG? Remember, a lot of people called me out earlier for "making a big deal out of" her slip(s).
Eh, about everybody had something to say about the slips. Just that you've "had arguments" with everybody else except ES and EGI, but those two are ranked most towny on my list.
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on July 14, 2019, 06:01:11 PMThe "inactive thing" is literally the most solid lead we have right now. Also, you claim there are other candidates, but you fail to mention them, because, guess what, there are none. I already took a look at all the activity Night 1 and determined who was the most likely to be the inactive wolf. You can look back at my post (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/index.php?topic=10827.msg413244#msg413244) if you disagree with me.
Like literally, why would the wolves choose not to wolf someone when the literally don't know if people will be inactive Night 1 or not? Even if they thought that was a good idea, the benefits of taking both shots highly outweighs it.
Quote from: ShyYoshiGuy on July 14, 2019, 06:01:34 PMEh, about everybody had something to say about the slips. Just that you've "had arguments" with everybody else except ES and EGI, but those two are ranked most towny on my list.
Really? Cause people sure singled me out (probably even more than EveningSun) for pushing them.
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on July 14, 2019, 06:01:11 PMThe "inactive thing" is literally the most solid lead we have right now. Also, you claim there are other candidates, but you fail to mention them, because, guess what, there are none. I already took a look at all the activity Night 1 and determined who was the most likely to be the inactive wolf. You can look back at my post (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/index.php?topic=10827.msg413244#msg413244) if you disagree with me.
Your own post says (you,) mikey and FG are the only ones who posted a fair amount.
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on July 14, 2019, 06:03:38 PMLike literally, why would the wolves choose not to wolf someone when the literally don't know if people will be inactive Night 1 or not? Even if they thought that was a good idea, the benefits of taking both shots highly outweighs it.
My only response is exactly what I said. To have something to target people for.
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on July 14, 2019, 06:06:06 PMReally? Cause people sure singled me out (probably even more than EveningSun) for pushing them.
Ok, I'll need to look back at that.
Quote from: ShyYoshiGuy on July 14, 2019, 06:08:24 PMYour own post says (you,) mikey and FG are the only ones who posted a fair amount.
Now come on, you're twisting my words. My posts says that the only people who weren't active were EveningSun and MD. Hoggers was active but posted all within a relatively short time period.
Quote from: ShyYoshiGuy on July 14, 2019, 06:10:34 PMMy only response is exactly what I said. To have something to target people for.
Then that's not a very good argument.
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on July 14, 2019, 06:06:06 PMReally? Cause people sure singled me out (probably even more than EveningSun) for pushing them.
Sorry, yes, ES got on to her about it too.
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on July 14, 2019, 06:13:21 PMNow come on, you're twisting my words. My posts says that the only people who weren't active were EveningSun and MD. Hoggers was active but posted all within a relatively short time period.
Well, I'd say the only thing against
being the inactive is posting a fair amount. hoggers only being on for a short time period does matter because that may not have been enough time to discuss it and choose someone. And while it doesn't make sense to vote her anymore, you didn't push for ES
being the inactive before she pr claimed.
remember bds had a dumbtell fam
syg
mikey you gotta get off ur pedestal rn. you prolly didn't solve the game or else u'd be a twg god
syg you're misunderstanding my case on you
mikey i'm starting to think syg's a hit
Quote from: Funnygurl555 on July 14, 2019, 06:47:06 PMremember bds had a dumbtell fam
syg
When?
Quote from: Funnygurl555 on July 14, 2019, 06:51:39 PMsyg you're misunderstanding my case on you
I was gonna ask in the post if you had more reasoning I forgot about, but I deleted it. Sure, what was your case again?
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on July 10, 2019, 03:53:06 PMSo either one wolf is inactive, or Funnygurl lost two lives. Or Funny's a wolf who they decided to do the ol' switcheroo on and only have her lose one life.
here we go
this guy didn't know what happened n1
your reads don't look organic. that's it. as mikey says it's like you already have a narrative
Quote from: Funnygurl555 on July 14, 2019, 06:59:13 PMhere we go
this guy didn't know what happened n1
Oh yeah, you're right. Ok.
Quote from: Funnygurl555 on July 14, 2019, 07:00:20 PMyour reads don't look organic. that's it. as mikey says it's like you already have a narrative
Can you bring up specific examples, because I'm not seeing it. Remember that being
wrong is not the same as being inorganic.
my post proves i was here during the night
your reasons to counter it, which you have used:
- i forgot
- i didnt have communication
anybody can forget
anybody might not have communication
i dont see how this applies to me
im not ignoring the fact that wolves didnt kill
im telling you its not me, and you are way to stubborn to see the dent in your shit
Quote from: MadDemon on July 14, 2019, 07:45:41 PMmy post proves i was here during the night
Dude, that proves nothing. Everyone posted at least once during the duration of the night phase.
If your best argument to being accused of being an inactive wolf is "well there wasn't an inactive wolf lol" then that's not exactly a convincing argument. You've gotta come up with alternatives: either people who were just as inactive as you, or reasons why the wolves wouldn't have taken a shot.
Like if someone shows up for like two minutes to make a post and figures they can get on later to submit a wolfing, then just forgets/isn't able to. That's a fairly common thing; it just matter more now that the wolves have a kill each instead of just one shared kill.
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on July 14, 2019, 07:53:18 PMDude, that proves nothing. Everyone posted at least once during the duration of the night phase.
If your best argument to being accused of being an inactive wolf is "well there wasn't an inactive wolf lol" then that's not exactly a convincing argument. You've gotta come up with alternatives: either people who were just as inactive as you, or reasons why the wolves wouldn't have taken a shot.
bruh
thats not at all what im saying
but my posts proves plenty
it proves i was here long enough to take a shot
your counter arguments were that i either forgot or my "teammate" wasnt on for me to discuss with
anybody couldve forgot, and anybody couldve has no access to their partner
thats what im trying to say
its either that or they were trying to cause mass confusion and it just so happens i wasnt here too often
why would i sign my own death warrant by choosing to be inactive as well as not take a kill?
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on July 14, 2019, 08:00:00 PMLike if someone shows up for like two minutes to make a post and figures they can get on later to submit a wolfing, then just forgets/isn't able to. That's a fairly common thing; it just matter more now that the wolves have a kill each instead of just one shared kill.
im sure youd be allowed to choose the missing persons kill
forgetting is the most bullshit claim ever
"oh so you were active? you mustve forgot then"
fuck off
Quote from: Funnygurl555 on July 14, 2019, 07:00:20 PMyour reads don't look organic. that's it. as mikey says it's like you already have a narrative
Lmao!
The classic. "Your reads don't look organic" = "I don't have a good reason to scumread you, but I am to exert pressure."
Funnygurl is null leaning town for me right now based off this. Very bunny lol.
MafDemon is still the lynch and my vote.
Quote from: MadDemon on July 14, 2019, 08:00:57 PMbruh
thats not at all what im saying
but my posts proves plenty
it proves i was here long enough to take a shot
your counter arguments were that i either forgot or my "teammate" wasnt on for me to discuss with
anybody couldve forgot, and anybody couldve has no access to their partner
thats what im trying to say
its either that or they were trying to cause mass confusion and it just so happens i wasnt here too often
why would i sign my own death warrant by choosing to be inactive as well as not take a kill?
You wrote a lot without saying much... you're a clown I've caught you and now you can't escape. WOLF.
Read this post and ask yourself 'What is he trying to say here? Why is he saying this?"
So this is the current vote count:
Mikey - 1 (MadDemon)
BDS - 1 (ShyYoshiGuy)
MadDemon - 1 (BlackDragonSlayer)
ShyYoshiGuy - 2 (mikey, Funnygurl)
I think this game suffers from the fact that there are a lot of people here who have never played with a lot of the others. Playstyles, skill levels... everything is clashing and as a result, everyone is suspicious of everyone. I'm honestly in disbelief that the banker didn't get a counter, but I'm willing to chalk that up to the fact that I've never played a game with ES that made me sus of them in the first place. So here we are now, D2 is nearing a close and the current leader is winning by 1 because 2 people agreed on something.
I'm going to think for a small time more and then vote
Since I am confirmed town (uncc'd Banker) that means I am to be followed.
If I mess up, it's on me, so don't worry about your pride and vote with me.
The fact I am uncc'd makes me even more suspicious of hoggers and the potentially AFK people, I haven't check. Knowing MafiaDemon, I wouldn't expect him to not cc in this scenario as wolf. Hoggers I can totally see now cc'ing and instead buying a gun. He may even try and shoot me tonight since I am confirmed.
What he hasn't accounted for though is the fact that every time he shoots me dead, my ideas will soak into other's mind's and we will win regardless. In the post-game, I, although dead, will be more alive than Hoggers, everyone reading this has my word.
I care more about winning the game than credit so I'll follow you so long as you ought to be
Hoggers isn't w because you claimed a frickin long time ago and he didn't use the gun on you
That is, a night where you were unccd passed without you losing any lives
How does that affect your reads
Strange... nothings changed.
Vote: ShyYoshiBoy
This is a sheep-read off of Funnygurl.
I trust her and The Dragon Man.
Quote from: MadDemon on July 14, 2019, 08:00:57 PMbruh
thats not at all what im saying
but my posts proves plenty
it proves i was here long enough to take a shot
Again, SO WAS EVERYBODY ELSE. Taking a shot is more than just showing up for like, maybe 2 minutes to make a post.
Quoteyour counter arguments were that i either forgot or my "teammate" wasnt on for me to discuss with
anybody couldve forgot, and anybody couldve has no access to their partner
thats what im trying to say
You don't get it. Sure, anybody else could have, but you were the most likely to fall victim to either of those characteristics because, as far as I can tell, you were on the least out of anybody else in the game.
Quotewhy would i sign my own death warrant by choosing to be inactive as well as not take a kill?
Inactivity isn't always intentional.
Quote from: MadDemon on July 14, 2019, 08:02:28 PMim sure youd be allowed to choose the missing persons kill
forgetting is the most bullshit claim ever
"oh so you were active? you mustve forgot then"
fuck off
The wording of the first post is "Each wolf has a wolfing of his own, meaning that as long as both wolves wolf, two lives will be lost each night phase." That heavily implies that each wolf controls their own wolfing, and ONLY their own wolfing. Otherwise, the wording would be something like "the wolves collectively have one wolfing per wolf alive."
Honestly, the way you're replying makes me think you know you messed up and are desperately trying to dig yourself out of a hole.
Quote from: EveningSun720 on July 14, 2019, 10:29:45 PMVote: ShyYoshiBoy
This is a sheep-read off of Funnygurl.
I trust her and The Dragon Man.
I, on the other hand, do not really trust Funnygurl. Especially because she went from "lol mikey needs to die" to "lol mikey may have a point." You even said that her reasoning for Shy is not very well founded. She's definitely picking on the most vulnerable person right now, and that concerns me.
Quote from: E. Gadd Industries on July 14, 2019, 09:05:43 PMI'm going to think for a small time more and then vote
rip e gadd
Because I don't want to lose a life:
mikey
Sorry, trying to not get lynched here.
Oh wait, 4 AM is phase change? Ooferuni. Welp, I've got one more life. I def should go to bed tho, staying up late's not good for Shy. G'nite.
TWG CXIII: Screw Strategy, We Have Money!1. Wolf
2. Wolf
Wolves know eachother. The wolf team share their money.
Each wolf has a wolfing of his own, meaning that as long as both wolves wolf, two lives will be lost each night phase.
3. Banker - Is told the amount of money all wolf players combined have as well as the amount of money all humans have combined at the end of each night phase.
4. Businessman - Earns NSM$150 at the end of each day phase rather than NSM$100
5. Human
6. Human
7. Human
8. Human
Each player starts with 3 lives. Wolfings and lynchings each take away one life.
The wolf team starts with NSM$300. Each Human starts with NSM$200. At the end of each day phase each Human earns NSM$100 (except the Businessman who earns NSM$150 instead).
Whenever a player dies(=loses all lives) by lynching or wolfing, the wolves will steal all of the killed player's money. If the kill was an item kill, the player responsible for the killing will steal all of the killed players money (if the killed player was the first wolf player to die, only half of the wolf team's money will go to the player responsable).
During the night phase, players can buy items with their money. Passive items will only last for the next day phase and the next night phase. Active items can only be used during the next night phase unless stated otherwise.
In any case all items will be useless after one day phase and one night phase after they have been bought.list of items
Poison Dart (poisons the player shot, causing that player to lose a life at the end of the next night unless that player buys an antidote during that night. Poisoned players will be told that they are poisoned) – NSM$75
Gun (takes one life away from the player shot) – NSM$100
Bulletproof Vest (protects the player from guns and snipers, but not from wolfings and poison darts) – NSM$100
Silent Sniper (takes one lives away from the player shot, can be fired in the middle of any phase. Unless this kills that player, this loss of life will not be mentioned until the end of the next night phase (thereby blending in with other kind of life loss)) – NSM$150
Silver (protects the owner from wolfings) - NSM$150
Antidote (when bought, the player will not lose a life due to poisoning that night) – NSM$150
Bribery (Your vote counts for 2 during the next day phase) – NSM$150
Steal-an-item item (target a player upon buying the item. If that player also buys an item during the same phase, you get that item instead) – NSM$175
Guardian Angel (protects from guns, snipers, poison darts, and wolfing attempts.) – NSM$200
Potion (Restores 1 life at the end of the next day phase. Doesn't work if the player has 3 lives remaining) – NSM$200
Duct Tape (Target a player during the night phase. That player will be unable to perform any action during the next night phase. Actions include wolfing, buying an item, using an item (except duct tape) and painting. Also prevents passive items from working and if the banker is targeted it prevents him from learning the amount of money each team has and if the businessman is targeted he will only receive NSM$100 during that night phase.) – NSM$300
Super Bribery (Your vote counts for 4 during the next day phase) – NSM$300
Reflector (when targeted by a gun, a sniper or a poison dart, the shot is reflected to the user) – NSM$300
Tank (Target a player, that player will lose 3 lives. Also protects the owner from guns, snipers, poison darts, other tanks, wolfing attempts, but not from duct tape. Also prevents the owner from being lynched, in which case the player with the second most votes is lynched instead. Cannot be stolen) – NSM$500, each player can only buy one tank per game.
Wolves win when all humans are dead.
Humans win when all wolves are dead.
If there is one human alive and one wolf alive with both having one life at the start of the day phase and there is no vote manipulation, the game ends in a tie.
1. BlackDragonSlayer
2. hoggers
3. mikey
4. ShyYoshiGuy
5. E. Gadd Industries
6. Funnygurl555
7. EveningSun720
8. MadDemon
ShyYoshiGuy lost a life. Then he gained a life. It's now night 3. Night 3 ends July 16th 8:00AM PST, 9:00AM MST, 10:00AM CST, 11:00AM EST, 5:00PM CET.
Syg outed wolf
Wait I misread the potion never mind
Interesting.
TWG CXIII: Screw Strategy, We Have Money!1. Wolf
2. Wolf
Wolves know eachother. The wolf team share their money.
Each wolf has a wolfing of his own, meaning that as long as both wolves wolf, two lives will be lost each night phase.
3. Banker - Is told the amount of money all wolf players combined have as well as the amount of money all humans have combined at the end of each night phase.
4. Businessman - Earns NSM$150 at the end of each day phase rather than NSM$100
5. Human
6. Human
7. Human
8. Human
Each player starts with 3 lives. Wolfings and lynchings each take away one life.
The wolf team starts with NSM$300. Each Human starts with NSM$200. At the end of each day phase each Human earns NSM$100 (except the Businessman who earns NSM$150 instead).
Whenever a player dies(=loses all lives) by lynching or wolfing, the wolves will steal all of the killed player's money. If the kill was an item kill, the player responsible for the killing will steal all of the killed players money (if the killed player was the first wolf player to die, only half of the wolf team's money will go to the player responsable).
During the night phase, players can buy items with their money. Passive items will only last for the next day phase and the next night phase. Active items can only be used during the next night phase unless stated otherwise.
In any case all items will be useless after one day phase and one night phase after they have been bought.list of items
Poison Dart (poisons the player shot, causing that player to lose a life at the end of the next night unless that player buys an antidote during that night. Poisoned players will be told that they are poisoned) – NSM$75
Gun (takes one life away from the player shot) – NSM$100
Bulletproof Vest (protects the player from guns and snipers, but not from wolfings and poison darts) – NSM$100
Silent Sniper (takes one lives away from the player shot, can be fired in the middle of any phase. Unless this kills that player, this loss of life will not be mentioned until the end of the next night phase (thereby blending in with other kind of life loss)) – NSM$150
Silver (protects the owner from wolfings) - NSM$150
Antidote (when bought, the player will not lose a life due to poisoning that night) – NSM$150
Bribery (Your vote counts for 2 during the next day phase) – NSM$150
Steal-an-item item (target a player upon buying the item. If that player also buys an item during the same phase, you get that item instead) – NSM$175
Guardian Angel (protects from guns, snipers, poison darts, and wolfing attempts.) – NSM$200
Potion (Restores 1 life at the end of the next day phase. Doesn't work if the player has 3 lives remaining) – NSM$200
Duct Tape (Target a player during the night phase. That player will be unable to perform any action during the next night phase. Actions include wolfing, buying an item, using an item (except duct tape) and painting. Also prevents passive items from working and if the banker is targeted it prevents him from learning the amount of money each team has and if the businessman is targeted he will only receive NSM$100 during that night phase.) – NSM$300
Super Bribery (Your vote counts for 4 during the next day phase) – NSM$300
Reflector (when targeted by a gun, a sniper or a poison dart, the shot is reflected to the user) – NSM$300
Tank (Target a player, that player will lose 3 lives. Also protects the owner from guns, snipers, poison darts, other tanks, wolfing attempts, but not from duct tape. Also prevents the owner from being lynched, in which case the player with the second most votes is lynched instead. Cannot be stolen) – NSM$500, each player can only buy one tank per game.
Wolves win when all humans are dead.
Humans win when all wolves are dead.
If there is one human alive and one wolf alive with both having one life at the start of the day phase and there is no vote manipulation, the game ends in a tie.
1. BlackDragonSlayer
2. hoggers
3. mikey
4. ShyYoshiGuy
5. E. Gadd Industries6. Funnygurl555
7. EveningSun720
8. MadDemon
BlackDragonSlayer, mikey, E.Gadd Industries and EveningSun720 each lost a life. E. Gadd Industries died. It's now day 3. Day 3 ends July 16th 11:00AM PST, 12:00AM MST, 1:00PM CST, 2:00PM EST, 8:00PM CET.Also I apologize for being such a bad host and ending all of the phases late this game.
I shot Mikey and MadDemon last night. Obviously, MadDemon was protected. More later.
All right, I already claimed to EveningSun, but I have little trust in their "human circle."
I'm publicly claiming Businessman. As mentioned above, I bought two guns Night 2 and used one on Mikey and one on MadDemon. Only one went through. Whoever shot me needs to fess up because you're a big dummo. >:(
GG you shot a towny you're the worst pr
that claim unfortunately doesn't widen my town circle
syg
let's keep it going
Quote from: mikey on July 16, 2019, 02:16:08 PMGG you shot a towny you're the worst pr
boi
If you're town you deserved to get shot. You're the one who went on about sinking as many shots you could into me. So once again, I ask you, now that you know Shy and I aren't partner, who makes the most likely partner for Shy?
So the wolf team starts with $300. The first post seems to suggest that wolves don't earn money like humans, unless a human dies. Night 2 they used up all their money according to EveningSun. If Shy is a wolf, and nobody ends up owning up to shooting me, then that means that the wolves could have bought a potion and a gun. However, if Shy is a wolf, he cannot be wolves with MadDemon, because wolves could not have had enough money to buy a Potion for Shy and a Guardian Angel for MadDemon. I think MadDemon is much more likely the wolf between the two, because MadDemon would have had no reason to buy a Guardian Angel vs. a Silver unless he was a wolf who knew he was in danger of being shot by someone (most likely me, for how hard I've gone after him).
MadDemon
Hoggers maybe, but I don't see funnygurl being bussed by syg in this scenario after shooting them first thing
Also saying "if I'm town I deserve to be shot" is stupid cause we're supposed to shoot wolves and iv e been acting very towny
Additionally, if Shy were a wolf, why would the wolf team spend so much money on a Potion when Shy being lynched a second time in a row was far from a guarantee?
Quote from: mikey on July 16, 2019, 03:14:15 PMAlso saying "if I'm town I deserve to be shot" is stupid cause we're supposed to shoot wolves and iv e been acting very towny
You've been acting the exact opposite of town. You've been a huge drain on the human team, and it's unfortunate to say you haven't been the only one.
What have I been doing that's "draining" the human team besides forgetting about my gun shot
And if I'm acting the exact opposite of town why are you the only town who's wolf reading me?
Maddemon is also wolf reading me but he's probably w at this point so
Stop tunneling
You've been extremely overconfident and unhelpful.
You've been more concerned about taking me down a peg than solving the game
Quote from: mikey on July 16, 2019, 03:20:02 PMYou've been more concerned about taking me down a peg than solving the game
It's not like you've been doing any solving.
My friends, I come to you today, with some very tragic news.
Our Town Circle member, BlackDragonSlayer, is in fact.... a wolf.
He just 'claimed businessman "officially"'... lol.
Your time is up, kid. Mikey and Funnyboy were right, you are a wolf and you are causing chaos. EZ Dunk.
Vote: BlackDragonSlayer
The wolves have NSM$400.
Humans have a total of NSM$800.
I can see all.
My two left eyes are wired, to spot all evil-hearted ones.
Follow behind me. The fact I went uncc'd means it's my time to lead Town to victory, just me versus the wolves, nobody else.
I already have the support of Funnygurl, Mikey, Hoggers, even DragonSlayer, though thats probs gonna change lol.
It's over for you wolves. MafMen has been slain by Fate himself.
Quote from: EveningSun720 on July 16, 2019, 06:22:54 PMMy friends, I come to you today, with some very tragic news.
Our Town Circle member, BlackDragonSlayer, is in fact.... a wolf.
He just 'claimed businessman "officially"'... lol.
Your time is up, kid. Mikey and Funnyboy were right, you are a wolf and you are causing chaos. EZ Dunk.
Vote: BlackDragonSlayer
The wolves have NSM$400.
Humans have a total of NSM$800.
Are you drunk or are you insane? I claimed Businessman to you
during the last Day phase. I decided to come public with it partly because I don't trust you to run a good ship, and partly just so it's out there in the open.
Actually, correction, I'm pretty sure it was during last Night phase.
Prove to me you are Town.
IF you cannot, right here and now, you will go, so far gone.
Quote from: EveningSun720 on July 16, 2019, 07:36:48 PMProve to me you are Town.
IF you cannot, right here and now, you will go, so far gone.
If he doesn't have a counterclaim, is that not enough?
Quote from: EveningSun720 on July 16, 2019, 07:36:48 PMProve to me you are Town.
IF you cannot, right here and now, you will go, so far gone.
I claimed a special role and have currently received no counterclaims, much like you claimed and received no counterclaims.
Something seems off, as if this is staged.
Really. Really? That's the best you've got?
Gadd and I's DM's (Probably not proper grammar, whatever.)
E. Gadd IndustriesLast Friday at 12:52 AM
Hey
ShyYoshiGuyLast Friday at 12:52 AM
Hey
I have no clue what's going on
E. Gadd IndustriesLast Friday at 12:53 AM
I'm coming to you bc you're about the only one I trust, but don't you find it the slightest bit odd that immediately after I made my post calling BDS and eveningsun out for voting together, they do this?
ShyYoshiGuyLast Friday at 12:54 AM
They make an argument with each other over claiming, you mean?
E. Gadd IndustriesLast Friday at 12:54 AM
Yes
ShyYoshiGuyLast Friday at 12:54 AM
Now that you say that, yeah that's sus
E. Gadd IndustriesLast Friday at 12:54 AM
Idk, that just seems too... convenient
ShyYoshiGuyLast Friday at 12:55 AM
Got no clue what hoggers is talking about, heh
E. Gadd IndustriesLast Friday at 12:56 AM
I'm really trying to piece together what he's saying, and I think I'm doing a decent job, but still
They scare me
Not in the way of like "o no they could find me out," but just like, I've never played with someone that uhhhhhhh aggressive???
ShyYoshiGuyLast Friday at 12:56 AM
Anyways, you're right, that's a little convenient, as you said
E. Gadd IndustriesLast Friday at 12:57 AM
Even Toby wasn't that bad...
But yeah, I think I'm going to be looking more into that dynamic, bc all of it seems to be lining up all too well
And so help me if you're a wolf, Shy
ShyYoshiGuyLast Friday at 12:58 AM
I'm not, lol. But that's also what a wolf would say, so
E. Gadd IndustriesLast Friday at 12:58 AM
Yeah. As of now, you and hoggers are my only two town reads
ShyYoshiGuyLast Friday at 12:59 AM
I think I townread mikey too because of the sniper thing, not sure
E. Gadd IndustriesLast Friday at 12:59 AM
Yeah, that's something worth keeping in mind
The only thing that will really change my mind on this whole thing is if there's no Banker counterclaim
ShyYoshiGuyLast Friday at 1:02 AM
Yeah, we'll have to see if anyone else claims Banker
E. Gadd IndustriesLast Friday at 1:05 AM
I just posted the chat log in the thread, hopefully that will allow everyone to see it. I know that might not be a skilled play if ES is indeed the banker, but they also said it themselves, so if people are gonna see it, may as well make it everyone
(Esp bc we can't be too certain that the wolves weren't there reading it all)
Thanks for pointing out the vote thing
ShyYoshiGuyLast Friday at 1:07 AM
Lol, yeah
E. Gadd IndustriesLast Friday at 3:05 PM
I believe Hoggers thinks he's ascended past our simpler TWG logic
ShyYoshiGuyLast Friday at 3:06 PM
I have no clue what hoggers thinks, I'm so confused
E. Gadd IndustriesLast Friday at 3:07 PM
Yeahhhhhh
ShyYoshiGuyLast Friday at 3:31 PM
"i like yoshi didn't interrupt or attack when i was speaking"
Wait, did I pass the not a reaction test test, or what?
E. Gadd IndustriesLast Friday at 3:32 PM
I think you're both humans with two drastically different levels of experience
ShyYoshiGuyLast Friday at 3:33 PM
Is he gonna vote me next phase?
E. Gadd IndustriesLast Friday at 3:33 PM
And the fact that he's been playing so long, he's expecting the humans to act altruistic for the human cause, which while that makes sense, that's not the immediate mindset of newer players like us
...it's hard to say. He seems very trigger happy, so who knows?
ShyYoshiGuyLast Friday at 3:35 PM
Well, I'm probably still gonna vote him. If he's extra experienced like that, that means it's just as easy for him to be wolf
E. Gadd IndustriesLast Friday at 3:35 PM
I still think it's eveningsun and BDS
But now I'm less convinced on BDS
ShyYoshiGuyLast Friday at 3:36 PM
You're like the only one I'm sure about, lol
E. Gadd IndustriesLast Friday at 3:37 PM
I have a gut feeling on Hoggers, and you just strike me as human
Also the disconnect makes sense in the views of two humans not lining up in stategy
ShyYoshiGuyLast Friday at 3:38 PM
I guess so
I am really bad tho, heh
E. Gadd IndustriesLast Friday at 3:39 PM
Hmmmmm... not necessarily. You're learning, as we all are
ShyYoshiGuyLast Friday at 3:40 PM
Ok, so should I not vote hoggers?
E. Gadd IndustriesLast Friday at 3:40 PM
I don't think it's best in early game
But just be wary about everyone moving forward
ShyYoshiGuyLast Friday at 3:43 PM
But I am gonna continue accusing him for the rest of the night to see what happens to me
E. Gadd IndustriesLast Friday at 3:43 PM
Only reason I spoke to you is because I had to speak to someone about the whole situation last night between BDS and Eveningsun
Interesting strategy
ShyYoshiGuyLast Friday at 3:43 PM
Ah, ok
E. Gadd IndustriesLast Friday at 3:43 PM
Any reason why?
ShyYoshiGuyLast Friday at 3:45 PM
Well, I'm not 100% sure what to do with that information, but it's still interesting to know. The wolves might want me dead, I might be on the right track with mikey, I dunno.
E. Gadd IndustriesLast Friday at 3:45 PM
I'm really interested to see what eveningsun does
ShyYoshiGuyLast Friday at 3:45 PM
Sure, whatever, hoggers had whatever but I don't know why mikey voted me
E. Gadd IndustriesLast Friday at 3:46 PM
Bc they claimed banker, so it'd make sense that they would be wolfed, right?
ShyYoshiGuyLast Friday at 3:46 PM
Yeah, probably
There's no counterclaim yet, so
E. Gadd IndustriesLast Friday at 3:54 PM
I have a plan
ShyYoshiGuyLast Friday at 3:54 PM
What?
E. Gadd IndustriesLast Friday at 3:55 PM
If the banker isn't es, they're being awfully quiet
So
I'm going to buy a steal an item and use it on es
Even if they get doubly wolved, they're still alive. If I get silver, that'll clear them
ShyYoshiGuyLast Friday at 3:56 PM
I bought a potion, heh
E. Gadd IndustriesLast Friday at 3:56 PM
Makes sense
What're your thoughts on my plan?
ShyYoshiGuyLast Friday at 3:57 PM
I think that should work, yeah
E. Gadd IndustriesLast Friday at 3:57 PM
And then we can focus on protecting them and looking elsewhere
Wait
Items don't take effect until the following night. I'll get es's item this night phase, but if they're the banker and they know that about the items, why would they buy silver?
I'm not sure... is it still worth it to go through with that idea?
ShyYoshiGuyLast Friday at 4:02 PM
Sry gtg
E. Gadd IndustriesLast Friday at 4:02 PM
...all good
ShyYoshiGuyLast Friday at 4:14 PM
I had to help move boxes, sorry
I'd think you'd get the item tomorrow night
Oh, nvm
I'm pretty sure your plan should work, yeah. There's no reason for wolves to buy silver.
I replied to davy's Forum PM saying I'd buy it, did I do it right? He didn't respond.
Oh, I have to go again
E. Gadd IndustriesLast Friday at 4:54 PM
Yes, that's all you do
ShyYoshiGuyLast Friday at 4:55 PM
He said he waits 'til the end of the phase to confirm
E. Gadd IndustriesLast Friday at 4:55 PM
...ah
I'm going to wait a bit longer for making my purchase, but I'll make it before the change
ShyYoshiGuyLast Saturday at 7:15 AM
Oh boy
Does that mean you're onto them, or maybe just that you're the most confirmed town?
E. Gadd IndustriesLast Saturday at 2:13 PM
Wait what
ShyYoshiGuyLast Saturday at 2:13 PM
You finally wake up?
E. Gadd IndustriesLast Saturday at 2:15 PM
The power flickered last night and my alarm clock reset itself
ShyYoshiGuyLast Saturday at 2:15 PM
Oh
The wolves got you
E. Gadd IndustriesLast Saturday at 2:15 PM
I'm highkey ticked off about it bc I had a plan, but anyway
Oh they did?
ShyYoshiGuyLast Saturday at 2:16 PM
Well, what item did you get?
E. Gadd IndustriesLast Saturday at 2:16 PM
...
ShyYoshiGuyLast Saturday at 2:16 PM
You're saying you didn't get to buy the item?
E. Gadd IndustriesLast Saturday at 2:16 PM
Welp, that's another thing to add to my ticked offness :)
I didn't hhhhhhhhhhhhh
ShyYoshiGuyLast Saturday at 2:16 PM
Both the wolves bit you, heh
E. Gadd IndustriesLast Saturday at 2:17 PM
It slipped my mind
Welp
They really don't like me
Strange given the banker claim
ShyYoshiGuyLast Saturday at 2:17 PM
Yeah
One sec, hold on
Anyways, my vote is back to FG
E. Gadd IndustriesLast Saturday at 2:23 PM
I'm so convinced that it's es, and it bugs me that there's been no counter, bc then I have no idea why both wolves went for me
ShyYoshiGuyLast Saturday at 2:24 PM
Well, no one has wolfread you yet. About everyone else has been
E. Gadd IndustriesLast Saturday at 2:25 PM
H
ShyYoshiGuyLast Saturday at 2:26 PM
You should probably buy a potion and silver
To get a life back and to keep the wolves away
E. Gadd IndustriesLast Saturday at 2:27 PM
Won't do any good
ShyYoshiGuyLast Saturday at 2:28 PM
If they kill you tonight, no. But if you last, it will
E. Gadd IndustriesLast Saturday at 2:28 PM
But who's to say they won't kill me and get the money?
ShyYoshiGuyLast Saturday at 2:29 PM
Nothing, just hope they don't
E. Gadd IndustriesLast Saturday at 2:29 PM
Hmmmmmm
ShyYoshiGuyLast Saturday at 2:29 PM
And also buying silver's good anyways because that's a wasted item for them and they'll get less money
E. Gadd IndustriesLast Saturday at 2:30 PM
Wait, they get items too?
ShyYoshiGuyLast Saturday at 2:30 PM
Yrav
E. Gadd IndustriesLast Saturday at 2:30 PM
>:(
ShyYoshiGuyLast Saturday at 2:30 PM
Autocorrect, wha?
Yeah
No clue how autocorrect came up with that
E. Gadd IndustriesLast Saturday at 2:31 PM
(Applause) quite creative
ShyYoshiGuyLast Saturday at 2:32 PM
Oh wait, they don't get items, nevermind
E. Gadd IndustriesLast Saturday at 2:32 PM
phew okay
ShyYoshiGuyLast Saturday at 2:32 PM
Items only transfer hands through the steal and item item, I see now
In hindsight, BDS and ES arguing over pr claims makes sense now because BDS was one too.
(Geez, finding all those DM's was difficult.)
So wait
Wolves have 400 dollars, meaning all they've bought this far is a gun, which they used to shoot one of e gadd, bds, or eveningsun
Which means syg can't be a wolf? Due to buying a potion? Wait
No the wolves would get e gadd money
Wolves spent all their money, got the 400 from e gadd
shyyoshiguy
ShyYoshiGuyToday at 3:17 PM
I'm making sure before I make it public. Is it safe for me to say I bought another potion or is there something the wolves could do to counteract it? Because it's possible that'll help my case, I dunno
Golden SilverToday at 3:19 PM
I'd shy away from (BAH DUM TSS) from making it public, but I can always mention it if people are insistent on lynching you again.
aaaand i used from twice
ShyYoshiGuyToday at 3:20 PM
Yes please
Because I feel like that can help me with money balances and stuff. I dunno if wolves had enough money for that
I told Gadd to buy things, but I don't know what he bought
DO NOT VOTE FOR SHY
I REPEAT
DO NOT VOTE FOR SHY
HE IS HUMAN
Quote from: EveningSun720 on July 16, 2019, 06:22:54 PMThe wolves have NSM$400.
Humans have a total of NSM$800.
What was it all the other nights?
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on July 16, 2019, 11:42:34 PMShyYoshiGuyToday at 3:17 PM
I'm making sure before I make it public. Is it safe for me to say I bought another potion or is there something the wolves could do to counteract it? Because it's possible that'll help my case, I dunno
Golden SilverToday at 3:19 PM
I'd shy away from (BAH DUM TSS) from making it public, but I can always mention it if people are insistent on lynching you again.
aaaand i used from twice
ShyYoshiGuyToday at 3:20 PM
Yes please
Because I feel like that can help me with money balances and stuff. I dunno if wolves had enough money for that
I told Gadd to buy things, but I don't know what he bought
DO NOT VOTE FOR SHY
I REPEAT
DO NOT VOTE FOR SHY
HE IS HUMAN
I can't find the place where he told e gadd to buy items in his log
I see a place where e gadd says what he's going to buy and syg says it's a good idea
Log quote
Quote from: ShyYoshiGuy on July 16, 2019, 09:37:40 PMShyYoshiGuyLast Saturday at 2:26 PM
You should probably buy a potion and silver
To get a life back and to keep the wolves away
E. Gadd IndustriesLast Saturday at 2:27 PM
Won't do any good
ShyYoshiGuyLast Saturday at 2:28 PM
If they kill you tonight, no. But if you last, it will
E. Gadd IndustriesLast Saturday at 2:28 PM
But who's to say they won't kill me and get the money?
ShyYoshiGuyLast Saturday at 2:29 PM
Nothing, just hope they don't
E. Gadd IndustriesLast Saturday at 2:29 PM
Hmmmmmm
ShyYoshiGuyLast Saturday at 2:29 PM
And also buying silver's good anyways because that's a wasted item for them and they'll get less money
E. Gadd IndustriesLast Saturday at 2:30 PM
Wait, they get items too?
ShyYoshiGuyLast Saturday at 2:30 PM
Yrav
E. Gadd IndustriesLast Saturday at 2:30 PM
>:(
ShyYoshiGuyLast Saturday at 2:30 PM
Autocorrect, wha?
Yeah
No clue how autocorrect came up with that
E. Gadd IndustriesLast Saturday at 2:31 PM
(Applause) quite creative
ShyYoshiGuyLast Saturday at 2:32 PM
Oh wait, they don't get items, nevermind
E. Gadd IndustriesLast Saturday at 2:32 PM
phew okay
ShyYoshiGuyLast Saturday at 2:32 PM
Items only transfer hands through the steal and item item, I see now
It's at the end
unvote
mikey
mikey
mikey
unvote
mikey
unvote
hoggers
Mikey
whats with all the vote changing people
its just me
EveningSun unvoted.
I'm town
He didn't change the date in the post. Still says the 16th. I'm assuming it ended this morning?
Votes:
mikey- 2 (BDS, SYG)
SYG- 1 (mikey)
hoggers- 1 (FG)
Unvote- 1 (ES)
No vote- 2 (MD, hoggers)
Well, o boi does that look sus, hoggers.
Phase when. I wanna be confirmed already.
Quote from: ShyYoshiGuy on July 18, 2019, 06:13:28 AMHe didn't change the date in the post. Still says the 16th. I'm assuming it ended this morning?
Votes:
mikey- 2 (BDS, SYG)
SYG- 1 (mikey)
hoggers- 1 (FG)
Unvote- 1 (ES)
No vote- 2 (MD, hoggers)
Well, o boi does that look sus, hoggers.
Phase when. I wanna be confirmed already.
Oh wait, I just saw. It says PM instead of AM. When did that happen? Ok, whatever, we still got time.
Quote from: davy on July 16, 2019, 11:19:04 AMBlackDragonSlayer, mikey, E.Gadd Industries and EveningSun720 each lost a life. E. Gadd Industries died. It's now day 3. Day 3 ends July 16th 11:00AM PST, 12:00AM MST, 1:00PM CST, 2:00PM EST, 8:00PM CET.
11 AM PST, 12 AM MST, 1 PM CST. Lol wat. Whatever, ok. Still have four hours, I guess. Cool.
TWG CXIII: Screw Strategy, We Have Money!1. Wolf
2. Wolf
Wolves know eachother. The wolf team share their money.
Each wolf has a wolfing of his own, meaning that as long as both wolves wolf, two lives will be lost each night phase.
3. Banker - Is told the amount of money all wolf players combined have as well as the amount of money all humans have combined at the end of each night phase.
4. Businessman - Earns NSM$150 at the end of each day phase rather than NSM$100
5. Human
6. Human
7. Human
8. Human
Each player starts with 3 lives. Wolfings and lynchings each take away one life.
The wolf team starts with NSM$300. Each Human starts with NSM$200. At the end of each day phase each Human earns NSM$100 (except the Businessman who earns NSM$150 instead).
Whenever a player dies(=loses all lives) by lynching or wolfing, the wolves will steal all of the killed player's money. If the kill was an item kill, the player responsible for the killing will steal all of the killed players money (if the killed player was the first wolf player to die, only half of the wolf team's money will go to the player responsable).
During the night phase, players can buy items with their money. Passive items will only last for the next day phase and the next night phase. Active items can only be used during the next night phase unless stated otherwise.
In any case all items will be useless after one day phase and one night phase after they have been bought.list of items
Poison Dart (poisons the player shot, causing that player to lose a life at the end of the next night unless that player buys an antidote during that night. Poisoned players will be told that they are poisoned) – NSM$75
Gun (takes one life away from the player shot) – NSM$100
Bulletproof Vest (protects the player from guns and snipers, but not from wolfings and poison darts) – NSM$100
Silent Sniper (takes one lives away from the player shot, can be fired in the middle of any phase. Unless this kills that player, this loss of life will not be mentioned until the end of the next night phase (thereby blending in with other kind of life loss)) – NSM$150
Silver (protects the owner from wolfings) - NSM$150
Antidote (when bought, the player will not lose a life due to poisoning that night) – NSM$150
Bribery (Your vote counts for 2 during the next day phase) – NSM$150
Steal-an-item item (target a player upon buying the item. If that player also buys an item during the same phase, you get that item instead) – NSM$175
Guardian Angel (protects from guns, snipers, poison darts, and wolfing attempts.) – NSM$200
Potion (Restores 1 life at the end of the next day phase. Doesn't work if the player has 3 lives remaining) – NSM$200
Duct Tape (Target a player during the night phase. That player will be unable to perform any action during the next night phase. Actions include wolfing, buying an item, using an item (except duct tape) and painting. Also prevents passive items from working and if the banker is targeted it prevents him from learning the amount of money each team has and if the businessman is targeted he will only receive NSM$100 during that night phase.) – NSM$300
Super Bribery (Your vote counts for 4 during the next day phase) – NSM$300
Reflector (when targeted by a gun, a sniper or a poison dart, the shot is reflected to the user) – NSM$300
Tank (Target a player, that player will lose 3 lives. Also protects the owner from guns, snipers, poison darts, other tanks, wolfing attempts, but not from duct tape. Also prevents the owner from being lynched, in which case the player with the second most votes is lynched instead. Cannot be stolen) – NSM$500, each player can only buy one tank per game.
Wolves win when all humans are dead.
Humans win when all wolves are dead.
If there is one human alive and one wolf alive with both having one life at the start of the day phase and there is no vote manipulation, the game ends in a tie.
1. BlackDragonSlayer
2. hoggers
3. mikey
4. ShyYoshiGuy
5. E. Gadd Industries6. Funnygurl555
7. EveningSun720
8. MadDemon
mikey lost a life. ShyYoshiGuy gained a life. It's now night 4. Night 4 ends July 19th 11:00AM PST, 12:00AM MST, 1:00PM CST, 2:00PM EST, 8:00PM CET. Phase update will probably be late.
Vote: MafiaDemon
TWG CXIII: Screw Strategy, We Have Money!1. Wolf
2. Wolf
Wolves know eachother. The wolf team share their money.
Each wolf has a wolfing of his own, meaning that as long as both wolves wolf, two lives will be lost each night phase.
3. Banker - Is told the amount of money all wolf players combined have as well as the amount of money all humans have combined at the end of each night phase.
4. Businessman - Earns NSM$150 at the end of each day phase rather than NSM$100
5. Human
6. Human
7. Human
8. Human
Each player starts with 3 lives. Wolfings and lynchings each take away one life.
The wolf team starts with NSM$300. Each Human starts with NSM$200. At the end of each day phase each Human earns NSM$100 (except the Businessman who earns NSM$150 instead).
Whenever a player dies(=loses all lives) by lynching or wolfing, the wolves will steal all of the killed player's money. If the kill was an item kill, the player responsible for the killing will steal all of the killed players money (if the killed player was the first wolf player to die, only half of the wolf team's money will go to the player responsable).
During the night phase, players can buy items with their money. Passive items will only last for the next day phase and the next night phase. Active items can only be used during the next night phase unless stated otherwise.
In any case all items will be useless after one day phase and one night phase after they have been bought.list of items
Poison Dart (poisons the player shot, causing that player to lose a life at the end of the next night unless that player buys an antidote during that night. Poisoned players will be told that they are poisoned) – NSM$75
Gun (takes one life away from the player shot) – NSM$100
Bulletproof Vest (protects the player from guns and snipers, but not from wolfings and poison darts) – NSM$100
Silent Sniper (takes one lives away from the player shot, can be fired in the middle of any phase. Unless this kills that player, this loss of life will not be mentioned until the end of the next night phase (thereby blending in with other kind of life loss)) – NSM$150
Silver (protects the owner from wolfings) - NSM$150
Antidote (when bought, the player will not lose a life due to poisoning that night) – NSM$150
Bribery (Your vote counts for 2 during the next day phase) – NSM$150
Steal-an-item item (target a player upon buying the item. If that player also buys an item during the same phase, you get that item instead) – NSM$175
Guardian Angel (protects from guns, snipers, poison darts, and wolfing attempts.) – NSM$200
Potion (Restores 1 life at the end of the next day phase. Doesn't work if the player has 3 lives remaining) – NSM$200
Duct Tape (Target a player during the night phase. That player will be unable to perform any action during the next night phase. Actions include wolfing, buying an item, using an item (except duct tape) and painting. Also prevents passive items from working and if the banker is targeted it prevents him from learning the amount of money each team has and if the businessman is targeted he will only receive NSM$100 during that night phase.) – NSM$300
Super Bribery (Your vote counts for 4 during the next day phase) – NSM$300
Reflector (when targeted by a gun, a sniper or a poison dart, the shot is reflected to the user) – NSM$300
Tank (Target a player, that player will lose 3 lives. Also protects the owner from guns, snipers, poison darts, other tanks, wolfing attempts, but not from duct tape. Also prevents the owner from being lynched, in which case the player with the second most votes is lynched instead. Cannot be stolen) – NSM$500, each player can only buy one tank per game.
Wolves win when all humans are dead.
Humans win when all wolves are dead.
If there is one human alive and one wolf alive with both having one life at the start of the day phase and there is no vote manipulation, the game ends in a tie.
1. BlackDragonSlayer
2. hoggers
3. mikey
4. ShyYoshiGuy
5. E. Gadd Industries6. Funnygurl555
7. EveningSun7208. MadDemon
EveningSun720 lost 2 lives. She died. It's now day 4. Day 4 ends July 21st 11:00AM PST, 12:00AM MST, 1:00PM CST, 2:00PM EST, 8:00PM CET.
Quote from: EveningSun720 on July 18, 2019, 11:38:22 PMVote: MafiaDemon
am I interpreting this right or did es say something else privately
MD quit and no one replaced him, so that means either the remaining wolf bought a gun or MD is not a wolf, correct?
Quote from: ShyYoshiGuy on July 19, 2019, 11:43:53 AMMD quit and no one replaced him, so that means either the remaining wolf bought a gun or MD is not a wolf, correct?
no
Stop angleshooting
lol @ eveningsun not buying protection
Unless the wolves predicted a vest and shot three times
Protection isn't a one shot, and you already knew that.
Actually I didn't already know that because I wasn't notified of any shots when I bought my guardian angel
Vests are typically 1x consumable items
MadDemon and hoggers is mostly where I'm at
I still for some reason can't let go of the thought that bds got a lucky fake claim. Really hard to put him with a functional partner though.
We should bring maddemon down to 0 asap
Funnygurl sometimes shoots herself n1 but I really don't think she cares enough to consider it
So it is always just maddemon/hoggers if you give bds the free claim
Please do not lynch funnygurl until both of them have died already imo
If you sheep bds and kill me you should feel bad but whatever a wins a win
I think it's mikey x hoggers based on how you've interacted with each other. Also you two both voting me for no reason d1 certainly doesn't help.
mikey
Quote from: ShyYoshiGuy on July 12, 2019, 03:26:06 AMmikey: Alrighty then
mikey: I'm going to vote syg
ShyYoshiGuy: Oof, why?
hoggers: i vote him, too
mikey: Because you rolled wolf :(
I kind of want to vote Hoggers just in case it's Funny/Hoggers, but honestly if it is we're probably screwed anyway. Mikey.
maddemon
TWG CXIII: Screw Strategy, We Have Money!1. Wolf
2. Wolf
Wolves know eachother. The wolf team share their money.
Each wolf has a wolfing of his own, meaning that as long as both wolves wolf, two lives will be lost each night phase.
3. Banker - Is told the amount of money all wolf players combined have as well as the amount of money all humans have combined at the end of each night phase.
4. Businessman - Earns NSM$150 at the end of each day phase rather than NSM$100
5. Human
6. Human
7. Human
8. Human
Each player starts with 3 lives. Wolfings and lynchings each take away one life.
The wolf team starts with NSM$300. Each Human starts with NSM$200. At the end of each day phase each Human earns NSM$100 (except the Businessman who earns NSM$150 instead).
Whenever a player dies(=loses all lives) by lynching or wolfing, the wolves will steal all of the killed player's money. If the kill was an item kill, the player responsible for the killing will steal all of the killed players money (if the killed player was the first wolf player to die, only half of the wolf team's money will go to the player responsable).
During the night phase, players can buy items with their money. Passive items will only last for the next day phase and the next night phase. Active items can only be used during the next night phase unless stated otherwise.
In any case all items will be useless after one day phase and one night phase after they have been bought.list of items
Poison Dart (poisons the player shot, causing that player to lose a life at the end of the next night unless that player buys an antidote during that night. Poisoned players will be told that they are poisoned) – NSM$75
Gun (takes one life away from the player shot) – NSM$100
Bulletproof Vest (protects the player from guns and snipers, but not from wolfings and poison darts) – NSM$100
Silent Sniper (takes one lives away from the player shot, can be fired in the middle of any phase. Unless this kills that player, this loss of life will not be mentioned until the end of the next night phase (thereby blending in with other kind of life loss)) – NSM$150
Silver (protects the owner from wolfings) - NSM$150
Antidote (when bought, the player will not lose a life due to poisoning that night) – NSM$150
Bribery (Your vote counts for 2 during the next day phase) – NSM$150
Steal-an-item item (target a player upon buying the item. If that player also buys an item during the same phase, you get that item instead) – NSM$175
Guardian Angel (protects from guns, snipers, poison darts, and wolfing attempts.) – NSM$200
Potion (Restores 1 life at the end of the next day phase. Doesn't work if the player has 3 lives remaining) – NSM$200
Duct Tape (Target a player during the night phase. That player will be unable to perform any action during the next night phase. Actions include wolfing, buying an item, using an item (except duct tape) and painting. Also prevents passive items from working and if the banker is targeted it prevents him from learning the amount of money each team has and if the businessman is targeted he will only receive NSM$100 during that night phase.) – NSM$300
Super Bribery (Your vote counts for 4 during the next day phase) – NSM$300
Reflector (when targeted by a gun, a sniper or a poison dart, the shot is reflected to the user) – NSM$300
Tank (Target a player, that player will lose 3 lives. Also protects the owner from guns, snipers, poison darts, other tanks, wolfing attempts, but not from duct tape. Also prevents the owner from being lynched, in which case the player with the second most votes is lynched instead. Cannot be stolen) – NSM$500, each player can only buy one tank per game.
Wolves win when all humans are dead.
Humans win when all wolves are dead.
If there is one human alive and one wolf alive with both having one life at the start of the day phase and there is no vote manipulation, the game ends in a tie.
1. BlackDragonSlayer
2. hoggers
3. mikey4. ShyYoshiGuy
5. E. Gadd Industries6. Funnygurl555
7. EveningSun7208. MadDemon
mikey lost a life. He died. It's now Night 5. Night 5 ends July 22nd 11:00AM PST, 11:59AM MST, 1:00PM CST, 2:00PM EST, 8:00PM CET. It ends one minute earlier in MST so SYG will stop talking about my inability to tell time.
Quote from: davy on July 21, 2019, 11:40:25 AMIt's now Night 5. Night 5 ends July 22nd 11:00AM PST, 11:59AM MST, 1:00PM CST, 2:00PM EST, 8:00PM CET. It ends one minute earlier in MST so SYG will stop talking about my inability to tell time.
I laughed so hard when I read that.
TWG CXIII: Screw Strategy, We Have Money!1. Wolf
2. Wolf
Wolves know eachother. The wolf team share their money.
Each wolf has a wolfing of his own, meaning that as long as both wolves wolf, two lives will be lost each night phase.
3. Banker - Is told the amount of money all wolf players combined have as well as the amount of money all humans have combined at the end of each night phase.
4. Businessman - Earns NSM$150 at the end of each day phase rather than NSM$100
5. Human
6. Human
7. Human
8. Human
Each player starts with 3 lives. Wolfings and lynchings each take away one life.
The wolf team starts with NSM$300. Each Human starts with NSM$200. At the end of each day phase each Human earns NSM$100 (except the Businessman who earns NSM$150 instead).
Whenever a player dies(=loses all lives) by lynching or wolfing, the wolves will steal all of the killed player's money. If the kill was an item kill, the player responsible for the killing will steal all of the killed players money (if the killed player was the first wolf player to die, only half of the wolf team's money will go to the player responsable).
During the night phase, players can buy items with their money. Passive items will only last for the next day phase and the next night phase. Active items can only be used during the next night phase unless stated otherwise.
In any case all items will be useless after one day phase and one night phase after they have been bought.list of items
Poison Dart (poisons the player shot, causing that player to lose a life at the end of the next night unless that player buys an antidote during that night. Poisoned players will be told that they are poisoned) – NSM$75
Gun (takes one life away from the player shot) – NSM$100
Bulletproof Vest (protects the player from guns and snipers, but not from wolfings and poison darts) – NSM$100
Silent Sniper (takes one lives away from the player shot, can be fired in the middle of any phase. Unless this kills that player, this loss of life will not be mentioned until the end of the next night phase (thereby blending in with other kind of life loss)) – NSM$150
Silver (protects the owner from wolfings) - NSM$150
Antidote (when bought, the player will not lose a life due to poisoning that night) – NSM$150
Bribery (Your vote counts for 2 during the next day phase) – NSM$150
Steal-an-item item (target a player upon buying the item. If that player also buys an item during the same phase, you get that item instead) – NSM$175
Guardian Angel (protects from guns, snipers, poison darts, and wolfing attempts.) – NSM$200
Potion (Restores 1 life at the end of the next day phase. Doesn't work if the player has 3 lives remaining) – NSM$200
Duct Tape (Target a player during the night phase. That player will be unable to perform any action during the next night phase. Actions include wolfing, buying an item, using an item (except duct tape) and painting. Also prevents passive items from working and if the banker is targeted it prevents him from learning the amount of money each team has and if the businessman is targeted he will only receive NSM$100 during that night phase.) – NSM$300
Super Bribery (Your vote counts for 4 during the next day phase) – NSM$300
Reflector (when targeted by a gun, a sniper or a poison dart, the shot is reflected to the user) – NSM$300
Tank (Target a player, that player will lose 3 lives. Also protects the owner from guns, snipers, poison darts, other tanks, wolfing attempts, but not from duct tape. Also prevents the owner from being lynched, in which case the player with the second most votes is lynched instead. Cannot be stolen) – NSM$500, each player can only buy one tank per game.
Wolves win when all humans are dead.
Humans win when all wolves are dead.
If there is one human alive and one wolf alive with both having one life at the start of the day phase and there is no vote manipulation, the game ends in a tie.
1. BlackDragonSlayer
2. hoggers
3. mikey4. ShyYoshiGuy
5. E. Gadd Industries6. Funnygurl555
7. EveningSun7208. MadDemon
Funnygurl555 lost two lives. She died. It's now day 5. Day 5 ends July 24th 11:00AM PST, 11:59AM MST, 1:00PM CST, 2:00PM EST, 8:00PM CET.
I think it's mikey x hoggers still.
hoggers
Hoggers
maddemon vote Yoshi
hoggers vote Yoshi
Wait a minute, if MD and Hoggers are both wolves, then the game should have ended already. Parity was reached.
Quote from: davy on July 21, 2019, 11:40:25 AMWolves win when all humans are dead.
Humans win when all wolves are dead.
If there is one human alive and one wolf alive with both having one life at the start of the day phase and there is no vote manipulation, the game ends in a tie.
oh rip
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on July 22, 2019, 03:44:47 PMWait a minute, if MD and Hoggers are both wolves, then the game should have ended already. Parity was reached.
that what i been trying to say.
I HAD A WHOLE DOOFENSHMIRTZ SPEECH ON MY MASTER PLAN
TWG CXIII: Screw Strategy, We Have Money!1. Wolf
2. Wolf
Wolves know eachother. The wolf team share their money.
Each wolf has a wolfing of his own, meaning that as long as both wolves wolf, two lives will be lost each night phase.
3. Banker - Is told the amount of money all wolf players combined have as well as the amount of money all humans have combined at the end of each night phase.
4. Businessman - Earns NSM$150 at the end of each day phase rather than NSM$100
5. Human
6. Human
7. Human
8. Human
Each player starts with 3 lives. Wolfings and lynchings each take away one life.
The wolf team starts with NSM$300. Each Human starts with NSM$200. At the end of each day phase each Human earns NSM$100 (except the Businessman who earns NSM$150 instead).
Whenever a player dies(=loses all lives) by lynching or wolfing, the wolves will steal all of the killed player's money. If the kill was an item kill, the player responsible for the killing will steal all of the killed players money (if the killed player was the first wolf player to die, only half of the wolf team's money will go to the player responsable).
During the night phase, players can buy items with their money. Passive items will only last for the next day phase and the next night phase. Active items can only be used during the next night phase unless stated otherwise.
In any case all items will be useless after one day phase and one night phase after they have been bought.list of items
Poison Dart (poisons the player shot, causing that player to lose a life at the end of the next night unless that player buys an antidote during that night. Poisoned players will be told that they are poisoned) – NSM$75
Gun (takes one life away from the player shot) – NSM$100
Bulletproof Vest (protects the player from guns and snipers, but not from wolfings and poison darts) – NSM$100
Silent Sniper (takes one lives away from the player shot, can be fired in the middle of any phase. Unless this kills that player, this loss of life will not be mentioned until the end of the next night phase (thereby blending in with other kind of life loss)) – NSM$150
Silver (protects the owner from wolfings) - NSM$150
Antidote (when bought, the player will not lose a life due to poisoning that night) – NSM$150
Bribery (Your vote counts for 2 during the next day phase) – NSM$150
Steal-an-item item (target a player upon buying the item. If that player also buys an item during the same phase, you get that item instead) – NSM$175
Guardian Angel (protects from guns, snipers, poison darts, and wolfing attempts.) – NSM$200
Potion (Restores 1 life at the end of the next day phase. Doesn't work if the player has 3 lives remaining) – NSM$200
Duct Tape (Target a player during the night phase. That player will be unable to perform any action during the next night phase. Actions include wolfing, buying an item, using an item (except duct tape) and painting. Also prevents passive items from working and if the banker is targeted it prevents him from learning the amount of money each team has and if the businessman is targeted he will only receive NSM$100 during that night phase.) – NSM$300
Super Bribery (Your vote counts for 4 during the next day phase) – NSM$300
Reflector (when targeted by a gun, a sniper or a poison dart, the shot is reflected to the user) – NSM$300
Tank (Target a player, that player will lose 3 lives. Also protects the owner from guns, snipers, poison darts, other tanks, wolfing attempts, but not from duct tape. Also prevents the owner from being lynched, in which case the player with the second most votes is lynched instead. Cannot be stolen) – NSM$500, each player can only buy one tank per game.
Wolves win when all humans are dead.
Humans win when all wolves are dead.
If there is one human alive and one wolf alive with both having one life at the start of the day phase and there is no vote manipulation, the game ends in a tie.
1. BlackDragonSlayer
2. hoggers
3. mikey4. ShyYoshiGuy
5. E. Gadd Industries6. Funnygurl555
7. EveningSun7208. MadDemon
ShyYoshiGuy lost a life. It's now Night 6. Night ends July 25th 1:00PM PST, 2:00PM MST, 3:00PM CST, 4:00PM EST, 10:00PM CET.
Ending night early because it's autowin for the wolves from here.
TWG CXIII: Screw Strategy, We Have Money!1. Wolf
2. Wolf
Wolves know eachother. The wolf team share their money.
Each wolf has a wolfing of his own, meaning that as long as both wolves wolf, two lives will be lost each night phase.
3. Banker - Is told the amount of money all wolf players combined have as well as the amount of money all humans have combined at the end of each night phase.
4. Businessman - Earns NSM$150 at the end of each day phase rather than NSM$100
5. Human
6. Human
7. Human
8. Human
Each player starts with 3 lives. Wolfings and lynchings each take away one life.
The wolf team starts with NSM$300. Each Human starts with NSM$200. At the end of each day phase each Human earns NSM$100 (except the Businessman who earns NSM$150 instead).
Whenever a player dies(=loses all lives) by lynching or wolfing, the wolves will steal all of the killed player's money. If the kill was an item kill, the player responsible for the killing will steal all of the killed players money (if the killed player was the first wolf player to die, only half of the wolf team's money will go to the player responsable).
During the night phase, players can buy items with their money. Passive items will only last for the next day phase and the next night phase. Active items can only be used during the next night phase unless stated otherwise.
In any case all items will be useless after one day phase and one night phase after they have been bought.list of items
Poison Dart (poisons the player shot, causing that player to lose a life at the end of the next night unless that player buys an antidote during that night. Poisoned players will be told that they are poisoned) – NSM$75
Gun (takes one life away from the player shot) – NSM$100
Bulletproof Vest (protects the player from guns and snipers, but not from wolfings and poison darts) – NSM$100
Silent Sniper (takes one lives away from the player shot, can be fired in the middle of any phase. Unless this kills that player, this loss of life will not be mentioned until the end of the next night phase (thereby blending in with other kind of life loss)) – NSM$150
Silver (protects the owner from wolfings) - NSM$150
Antidote (when bought, the player will not lose a life due to poisoning that night) – NSM$150
Bribery (Your vote counts for 2 during the next day phase) – NSM$150
Steal-an-item item (target a player upon buying the item. If that player also buys an item during the same phase, you get that item instead) – NSM$175
Guardian Angel (protects from guns, snipers, poison darts, and wolfing attempts.) – NSM$200
Potion (Restores 1 life at the end of the next day phase. Doesn't work if the player has 3 lives remaining) – NSM$200
Duct Tape (Target a player during the night phase. That player will be unable to perform any action during the next night phase. Actions include wolfing, buying an item, using an item (except duct tape) and painting. Also prevents passive items from working and if the banker is targeted it prevents him from learning the amount of money each team has and if the businessman is targeted he will only receive NSM$100 during that night phase.) – NSM$300
Super Bribery (Your vote counts for 4 during the next day phase) – NSM$300
Reflector (when targeted by a gun, a sniper or a poison dart, the shot is reflected to the user) – NSM$300
Tank (Target a player, that player will lose 3 lives. Also protects the owner from guns, snipers, poison darts, other tanks, wolfing attempts, but not from duct tape. Also prevents the owner from being lynched, in which case the player with the second most votes is lynched instead. Cannot be stolen) – NSM$500, each player can only buy one tank per game.
Wolves win when all humans are dead.
Humans win when all wolves are dead.
If there is one human alive and one wolf alive with both having one life at the start of the day phase and there is no vote manipulation, the game ends in a tie.
1. BlackDragonSlayer2. hoggers
3. mikey4. ShyYoshiGuy
5. E. Gadd Industries6. Funnygurl5557. EveningSun7208. MadDemon
ShyYoshiGuy lost two lives. BDS lost three lives. He died. There is no way left for humans to win, therefore:
Wolves Win