TWG CIII: Seerious Moonlight
The year is 200_. Famed musician David Bowie is reminiscing about the Serious Moonlight Tour, which, while not as good as the Isolar II Tour, was still a pretty good tour. Meanwhile, a group of obsessive superfans are plotting to kidnap David Bowie and... well, they don't actually know what they'll do once they have him.
Wolves:
1. David Bowie: Famous musician who is unknowingly at the center of a kidnapping plot. Each night, he may paint one player of his choosing either blue, red, or orange, and seer another player of his choosing.
2. Duncan Jones: Director of Moon and son of David Bowie. While the superfans aren't looking for him particularly, he's still an obstacle to their mission. Can seer one player of his choosing each night.
Humans:
3. David Bowie Fan: Each night, they can choose to seer one player.
4. David Bowie Fan
5. David Bowie Fan
6. David Bowie Fan
7. Newbie: While they're still an obsessive fan of David Bowie, they don't own a copy of Santa Monica '72, so they're looked down upon by the other fans. Is told they're a David Bowie Fan.
8. Addict: Takes inspiration from David Bowie a bit too seriously. When they seer a player, they get a random color result. Is told they're a normal David Bowie Fan.
Third Party:
9. The Ghost of Andy Warhol: Can paint up to three players each night either blue, red, or orange. If they forgo one painting, they get an extra lynching vote. If they forgo another one, they get another vote. If they do not paint anyone, then they are immune to the wolfing for that night. Wins, non-overriding, when all players alive at the end of the game have been painted at least once. Can win when dead.
Cardflips show apparent color.
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Players
1. BrainyLucario
2. Maelstrom
3. ThatHiddenCharacter
4. Dudeman
5. Trasdegi
6. Mikey
7. Davy
8. Toby
9. Olimar12345
Sub
1. Blueflower
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It is now Night 1. Night 1 ends in two days, on Thursday, April 5 at 6:00 PM Pacific Time (9:00 PM Eastern Time).
Role PMs (if you have not received one but feel you should have, please leave a message after the beep):
Wolves
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTB6bACVQAAKiWD.jpg:large)
(PLAYER) is David Bowie.
(PLAYER) is Duncan Jones.
Humans
You are a David Bowie Fan, though you may be the Newbie or the Addict.
The Ghost of Andy Warhol
You are The Ghost of Andy Warhol.
Chatroom Link (https://discord.gg/nYptpxk)
Night 1 (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=9961.msg397218#msg397218)
Day 1 (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=9961.msg397372#msg397372)
Night 2 (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=9961.msg397459#msg397459)
Day 2 (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=9961.msg397497#msg397497)
Night 1 Story
One fine (INSERT SEASON HERE) day in the year 200_, David Bowie and his son Duncan Jones were walking along the streets of New York City, which were surprisingly empty for that time of day. Duncan was in a stroller, despite being a thirty-something year old man. All was going well, when suddenly the pair was approached by a ghost! It was the ghost of legendary guitarist
Stevie Ray Vaughan!!!!!
(https://i.scdn.co/image/1de60c936683320769a1bfb6fba7f75902859085)
Ghost of Stevie Ray Vaughan: Mr. Bowie, I hope you remember me. We worked together on several songs for your hit 1983 album,
Let's Dance.
The pair stared pensively, confused but somewhat amused just the same.
Ghost of Stevie Ray Vaughan: I am here to tell you that you are in grave danger. A group of obsessive superfans is hunting you down and plans to kidnap you. What they plan to do to you once they have you, I am not certain—and I don't even think they themselves know what to do once they've snagged you—but you must be aware of the grave danger you are in! Also the ghost of Andy Warhol is going around painting people because idk.
David Bowie: All right, thank you. Have a nice day.
Ghost of Stevie Ray Vaughan: Heed my words. Also,
Never Let Me Down sucked.
With those harsh words, the ghost vanished without a trace. Suddenly, the streets were filled with people.
David Bowie: I wonder what that was all about. Anyway, I feel like reminiscing about the past. Who wants to listen to old cassette tapes of my past tours? I haven't been on a tour since 2003's
A Reality Tour!
Duncan Jones eagerly raised his hands and squealed with excitement.
**********
Meanwhile, the superfans plotted.
Dudeman:
FUG DAVE BOWE!The rest of the superfans looked at him quizzically.
Toby: Yes, we're here to talk about David Bowie.
Davy: Anyway, that's the plan.
Trasdegi: ? ? ?
Olimar12345: ? ? ?
THC: ? ? ?
Maelstrom entered the room.
Maelstrom: Hey guys, sorry I'm late! I'm <redacted>
Brainy: Wow, really?
Mikey: We're hopeless, guys.
Mikey: I don't know where I was going with that.
**********
Night 1 Theme Song:
Day 1 Story
Having returned home, Bowie and his son immediately began to dig through the pile of cassettes that had conveniently been piled up in the living room over the years. Lucky for them, they found a
video cassette of the
Serious Moonlight Tour, which David Bowie insisted on watching, to Duncan's objection.
Duncan Jones: I thought the Isolar II tour was better. That tour started in 1978, when I was 7 years old.
David Bowie: Very good my son! You're starting to get the grip of basic math! Pretty soon you'll be directing your own movies!
Duncan Jones: But dad, I
am directing my own movies.
David Bowie: Tehehehe, very good! I'm so proud of you, son!
With that, they began to watch. But, just then, they were interrupted by a knock at the door!
David Bowie: I'll get it!
But as he stood up from his seat, there was suddenly a giant commotion outside! When it began to settle down, Bowie and Duncan both ran to the door and flung it open! Outside was the body of Mikey, laying on the doorstep, dead!
David Bowie: Ooohhh nooooooo! There's been a murrrrderrrrr! I wonder who could have done this?
Just then, another ghost appeared!
(https://i2.wp.com/davidbowienews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/IMG_7118.jpg?resize=650%2C250&ssl=1)
It was the ghost of Mick Ronson!
Ghost of Mick Ronson: David, my old friend, you are in trouble. This chap here was trying to snag you. So I killed 'em. I killed 'em good and dead.
David Bowie: So I've heard. Anyway, thank you for killing this man in front of my house. It looks really good and certainly won't attract any attention at all. I miss you.
Ghost of Mick Ronson: I miss you too man.
And with that, the ghost of Mick Ronson began floating away into the heavens.
Ghost of Mick Ronson: I love you man. Peace out and be safe.
David Bowie blew a kiss after his beloved band mate. Duncan blew a kiss as well for good measure.
**********
Meanwhile, the superfans continued to plot.
Toby: I think we try searching in the mirrors. We should all look at ourselves in the mirror to make sure we're not David Bowie.
Dudeman: ? ? ?
Maelstrom: ? ? ?
Davy: Everyone should try inspecting the person below their own name on this here arbitrary list I just made.
Toby: No, that's a terrible idea. Everyone should try inspecting the person below their own name on this here arbitrary list
I just made.
Olimar12345: After looking at myself in the mirror, I have figured out that I am indeed a David Bowie Fan and not David Bowie himself.
Toby: Good, so it's a plan, yeah?
Maelstrom, Olimar, Dudeman: NO!
Toby: Ok LOL
Brainy: Hey, where did Mikey go?
Maelstrom: Wait, did I miss something?
THC: idk
Trasdegi: idc
**********
Day 1 Theme Song:
Night 2 Story
Hoping not to be disturbed any more, David and Duncan were watching clips from the
Serious Moonlight Tour, while David was cackling voraciously off and on, and Duncan was not very entertained.
(https://postmediaedmontonjournal2.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/david-bowie-performs-during-his-serious-moonlight-tour-at-ed1.jpeg)
David Bowie: Bwoohoohoohoohoo! Look at my
HAIR! Look at how
80's it was! Kahahahahahaha hahahaaaa!
Duncan Jones: dad stop pls
David Bowie:
Ahahahahahaha! Ah ha hahaaaaaaaaaaaa!Duncan Jones: dad staaaaaaahp
Things would go on like this for the rest of the evening.
**********
Meanwhile, the plotters were beginning to take action.
THC: Mikey's dead guys. He isn't coming back.
Trasdegi: Serves him right.
Olimar popped in to disrupt their conversation.
Olimar12345: Are you a... a real kidnapper?
BrainyLucario: Well, uh, technically, a... Nah?
Olimar12345: Have you ever actually captured someone before, like, a real big superstar?
Everyone else shook their heads.
Toby: Well, then, we're going to teach you guys how to be kidnappers!
Dudeman: Look at these nets that I just found!
Davy: Cool let's practice using those.
Maelstrom: Hey, let's practice using Brainy as a target!
Brainy: Hey!
Everyone Else: Sounds great!
They all greedily grabbed at the nets, eager to get into the swing of things and hopefully get another step closer to capturing their idol.
Dudeman: When I say "go," get ready to throw!
There was a definite pause; the smell of anticipation strongly pervaded the air around them.
Dudeman: G...
Everyone threw their nets at Brainy. Out of nowhere, more nets kept appearing, and the superfans kept throwing. They kept throwing and throwing nets, even as Brainy started screaming and crying out for help. Dudeman and Toby had looks of horror on their faces, until they realized that they could do nothing to stop what was about to happen, then they started throwing more nets on top of Brainy for fun. So many nets.
Pretty soon, there was a giant pile of nets where Brainy had once stood. Nobody had seen that many nets in their life! So many nets. Everyone looked happy and excited, except for Dudeman and Toby.
Toby: Well, everybody, I think you killed him.
Everyone looked kind of ashamed, but simultaneously invigorated by the rampant bloodlust they never really knew they had.
Trasdegi: How do you know? Are you gonna dig him out from that mound of nets??
Dudeman: Nah, we're pretty sure he's dead. Besides, I don't want to find out what's left under there, and I don't think any of you guys do either!
Everyone agreed and left it at that.
**********
Night 2 Theme Song:
Day 2 Story
Duncan Jones: dad staaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahp
Suddenly, there was a loud noise, like the shattering of glass! David Bowie and Duncan Jones got up and started running around the room, screaming! They were about to get kidnapped because they had not heeded the warnings, and had sat here all day watching old videos from the
Serious Moonlight Tour.
Maelstrom turned around the corner, a crazed look in his eyes!
Maelstrom: IMMA GEETTCH YAAA.
He started creeping toward the pair, who had huddled together in the corner.
Maelstrom: OOF! *whump*
Duncan peeked out from the corner.
Duncan Jones: Look!
It was... it was...
(https://sterling-sound.com/wp-content/uploads/Tony-Visconti-180x180.jpg)
It was the Ghost of Tony Visconti!
David Bowie: Wait a minute, you're not dead!
Ghost of Tony Visconti: Don't think about it too much David, don't think about it too much.
David Bowie: Mmmm. Anyway, what happened to that creepy chap who just broke into our house?
Ghost of Tony Visconti: I did away with him. He won't be bothering you any more. Don't think about it too much, David.
He got closer and closer and whispered in his ear.
Ghost of Tony Visconti:
Don't think about it too much.And like that, he was gone. Bowie suddenly decided he had to go next door to check up on his old friend.
**********
THC: ...
Dudeman: ...
Trasdegi: ...
Davy: ...
Toby: Are we actually going to do anything?
Olimar12345: Maybe.
**********
Day 2 Theme Song:
Beeeep.
this post isn't reserved
I don't think there's much in terms of plans that we can make, other than we shouldn't give any indication of who we will seer tonight, but we should all obviously use our actions. We just don't want the wolves to know who they should be painting, perhaps more discussion of that can be brought up later, but I would say wait for day, unless people think everyone seering themselves might be a good idea :? , seerings are mostly useless anyway though so I don't think I'm too interested in trying to do anything with them though lol.
Also third party shouldn't claim
Also, as a clarification, the Newbie does receive seering results; the only difference between them and the normal seer role is that their default seering is red.
do paintings go through before the seering? EG we can't trust our seering results tonight?
Yeah, otherwise painting would do nothing.
That's literally the point of seerings. They only last the night/day phase, though.
^^^
Yeah, that.
oh I figured paintings were permanent
since like the ghost of andy warhol requires all living players to be painted
my bad okay I got it now
Isn't this like TWG Seeriously?
in that seerings are more or less pointless yes
Oh, it says have been painted at least once. I misread it, too. Well, at least it's not permanent, but doing the math, there can be up to four paintings in a night, which is not a good thing. While everyone, except for the ghost of Andy Warhol, can seer, it seems that it would be pointless for David and Duncan to seer because they know each other and Andy doesn't really give them a benefit if they figure him out, as far as I can tell. So, assuming all four paintings happen tonight, there's a 5 out of 9 chance that our seerings will be accurate. While this isn't ideal, it does go to show that the odds are currently in our favor. It would probably be best not to share our seering results on the day phase, though. At least not on day 1. Ooh, I actually contributed, yay! I should probably start using a more visually pleasing format instead of just a long paragraph, though.
red wolf will probably paint himself blue
it's what I'd do anyway
Checking in to say I'm alive. I am a David Bowie Fan.
...though, I may be the Newbie or the Addict...
I declare intent to seer THC tonight; nobody else do so
Quote from: mikey on April 03, 2018, 08:10:50 PMI declare intent to seer THC tonight; nobody else do so
I literally just said not to discuss who you'll seer. Now thc will probably be painted gj
yeah; which means a red check on anyone else is more likely to be a wolf?
this is also better than a ton of people wasting a seer check on thc and him getting painted anyway for a post full of wifom
not really
5 people will be painted tonight and there are 9 players
6 of the seerings are human, 5 of them aren't random results, are seerings are pretty useless. If thc is a wolf he will be painted tonight guaranteed now, if you are using your post to pretend you're going to seer him when you are in fact not, that's a little silly considering you believe you have some traction on him. It would have been better to seer him and not tell anyone, and seer him again the next night, and keep doing so until you build up a few results that could maybe be of some use to you. but then again you could do whatever because you'll die early enough as usual that your seerings will never matter much
(lol) (ilyrrly)
also i dont mind multiple people seering the same person, it will help identify who is the random seer
something maelstrom brought up in the discord- we don't know for sure that andy warhol will be using paintings tonight. There's a good incentive to not go paint-happy.
Also @BDS will we be notified of kitb
Can't we just, like, decide that everyone seers the player below them on the player list? That way, we have some information about every player and once andy claims (claiming during endgame is a good strat for andy since andy can win together with either the wolves or the humans), we can be sure that only one player aside from the one that andy painted is a wolf.
I thought about something like that, but for some reason I decided it wasn't very beneficial. Don't remember that reason just yet
Doesn't doing this only amplify the problem of David and Andy knowing who's going to be seer'd and thus who to paint?
Then again, that also means everybody gets seer'd, and thus actually eliminates the problem. I guess it's an okay plan, but only if we do it again Night 2, otherwise tonight's results can't really be interpreted in any direction.
Quote from: Dudeman on April 04, 2018, 10:33:41 AMDoesn't doing this only amplify the problem of David and Andy knowing who's going to be seer'd and thus who to paint?
Then again, that also means everybody gets seer'd, and thus actually eliminates the problem. I guess it's an okay plan, but only if we do it again Night 2, otherwise tonight's results can't really be interpreted in any direction.
Doing this is probably the only way this'll work. But When we do this, it should almost confirm players as town or suspicious, making the seer ability not entirely useless
okay right so like I was thinking it forces the wolves to paint a specific player but the wolf painter gets a seering too
there's only one false seer in this game so making sure everyone seers a different target is more or less beneficial to town
doing so incentivizes third party to paint at least one target which allows him to be wolf killed
I would be against any sort of plan that gives the wolves more options/information. I suggest that everyone pick someone and be ready to explain why you picked them or something next phase. The duplicates will tell us who to vote for.
There has been some good discussion in the discord chat. You should all read it.
I bet everyone is either secretly town or secretly a wolf
Quote from: mikey on April 04, 2018, 05:18:26 PMI bet everyone is either secretly town or secretly a wolf
THIS USER HAS BEEN MODKILLED FOR INAPPROPRIATE LEVELS OF SASS
mhmm that's right
wow my PoE is coming along very nicely already hopefully the wolves don't kill me before I've shared all my thoughts during the day phase!
i think there has been a general consensus to seer the player beneath you on the player list:
1. BrainyLucario
2. Maelstrom
3. ThatHiddenCharacter
4. Dudeman
5. Trasdegi
6. Mikey
7. Davy
8. Toby
9. Olimar12345
if anyone is against this speak now or forever hold your piece. if not...
make sure to seer the player below you on the player list
I can't speak for everyone but I'm pretty sure the general consensus is not seering the person below. I know Maelstrom, Olimar, and myself at the very least were more comfortable with random seerings tonight.
Wait, did I miss something? Last time I was in the chat I disagreed and convinced most of the players. I have stuff to do so I can't do a massive post, but this whole thing made it easier to use paintings and faked seerings to gimp it. If everyone else is for it, I guess I can go with it, but I'd like to hear more opinions besides you just stating this as fact.
Posting to say that I have already shown and continue to show opposition to this idea of making our seer claims public on the grounds that it is basically letting the wolves set up a plan of action. I will not be participating in it.
Ok LOL
Well looks like that's not happening
Unless you guys can do a better job convincing us that it wouldn't just be giving the wolves our seering targets :P
I've read the thread, still catching up with the discord (450 messages left...)
I see multiple seers plans possible:
1. Everyone seers the same person: while it can allow the random seer to find out who he is, it's not a good plan because it tells us nothing for tomorrow's lynch.
2. Everyone seers the person below: while we would have 2 seerings on each person on d2, we still have nothing for d1. And 2 seerings isn't even enough, because if you count the random seer, the paintings and potential fake check claims, we still haven't any reliable information.
3. Everyone seer whoever they want: This option is the best IMO because it tells the wolves nothing to help them build a strategy, and we might get multiple checks on the same person without the wolves knowing who that person is and thus not being able to paint it. And it's the only option that might get us valuable info for d2.
So I'm against that seer-the-person-below thing, and I don't see that "general consensus" davy is speaking of either.
How does seering whoever we want give us any information for the next day phase?
Quote from: davy on April 05, 2018, 01:06:52 PMHow does seering whoever we want give us any information for the next day phase?
I'd argue that everybody seering the person below doesn't give us any information for the next day phase either. Like I said before, doing this is only meaningful if we do it again night 2. Otherwise we've just got a group of seering results that mean nothing because nobody was looked at by more than one person. If we all pick someone at random, the wolves and Andy don't have as much of an opportunity to paint strategically, and we might get two people to seer the same person, which is a lot more reliable than everybody getting a single result on everybody.
Quote from: Dudeman on April 05, 2018, 01:17:43 PMLike I said before, doing this is only meaningful if we do it again night 2. Otherwise we've just got a group of seering results that mean nothing because nobody was looked at by more than one person.
This is exactly what I am proposing. Seering the person below this phase and seering the person above next phase.
Quote from: Dudeman on April 05, 2018, 01:17:43 PMIf we all pick someone at random, the wolves and Andy don't have as much of an opportunity to paint strategically, and we might get two people to seer the same person, which is a lot more reliable than everybody getting a single result on everybody.
Paintings only last for one day phase. If we cover our bases and seer everyone, we'll know who was painted based on what players changed colors between the night phases. And the only thing that makes two players seering the same player is more reliable is if one of the seers is the random seers or if players are lying. The miller will still be red, painted players will still be painted and the blue wolf will still be blue no matter how many players seer them during the same phase.
I'm not saying that seering everyone does not have it's disadvantages, but I literally see no benifit to seer whoever we want. Our seering results are going to mean nothing if we can't deduce what players have been painted and the only way we can deduce that is by seering everyone.
Quote from: davy on April 05, 2018, 01:41:42 PMIf we cover our bases and seer everyone, we'll know who was painted based on what players changed colors between the night phases.
Then the wolf and andy re-paint the same players both nights. Bam, nobody has changed color and we lost two nights for nothing.
Quote from: Trasdegi on April 05, 2018, 01:54:11 PMThen the wolf and andy re-paint the same players both nights. Bam, nobody has changed color and we lost two nights for nothing.
andy wants to paint everyone though so he wont do that.
the wolf might paint the same player but that is just 1 player and there's 2 humans with identifiable colours we can sort of be searching for, and 1 red wolf who we can identify.
also something i've put in chat. But third party, in order for you to stay hidden as best as you can, and to not piss us off and make us lynch you (we might because you can act as a threat to us lol), can you only paint people orange and not use any other colour
TWG CIII: Seerious MoonlightSpoiler
The year is 200_. Famed musician David Bowie is reminiscing about the Serious Moonlight Tour, which, while not as good as the Isolar II Tour, was still a pretty good tour. Meanwhile, a group of obsessive superfans are plotting to kidnap David Bowie and... well, they don't actually know what they'll do once they have him.
Wolves:
1. David Bowie: Famous musician who is unknowingly at the center of a kidnapping plot. Each night, he may paint one player of his choosing either blue, red, or orange, and seer another player of his choosing.
2. Duncan Jones: Director of Moon and son of David Bowie. While the superfans aren't looking for him particularly, he's still an obstacle to their mission. Can seer one player of his choosing each night.
Humans:
3. David Bowie Fan: Each night, they can choose to seer one player.
4. David Bowie Fan
5. David Bowie Fan
6. David Bowie Fan
7. Newbie: While they're still an obsessive fan of David Bowie, they don't own a copy of Santa Monica '72, so they're looked down upon by the other fans. Is told they're a David Bowie Fan.
8. Addict: Takes inspiration from David Bowie a bit too seriously. When they seer a player, they get a random color result. Is told they're a normal David Bowie Fan.
Third Party:
9. The Ghost of Andy Warhol: Can paint up to three players each night either blue, red, or orange. If they forgo one painting, they get an extra lynching vote. If they forgo another one, they get another vote. If they do not paint anyone, then they are immune to the wolfing for that night. Wins, non-overriding, when all players alive at the end of the game have been painted at least once. Can win when dead.
Cardflips show apparent color.
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Players
1. BrainyLucario
2. Maelstrom
3. ThatHiddenCharacter
4. Dudeman
5. Trasdegi
6. Mikey7. Davy
8. Toby
9. Olimar12345
Sub
1. Blueflower
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Mikey got into a scuffle with an incorporeal figure and somehow lost! He was Blue!It is now Day 1. Day 1 ends in two days, on Saturday, April 7 at 6:00 PM Pacific Time (9:00 PM Eastern Time).
NIGHT IN THE WOODS IS WORTH IT
I seer'd brainy blue btw.
I seer'd mikey blue
I seer'd Maelstrom blue.
I seer'd mikey blue
brainy
With all that happened (Brainy claiming Andy when he was put under pressure and then claiming town when we found a plan to check which Andy claim was true), I agree with this one.
brainy
Probably won't have any other time today to post a vote, so BrainyLucario.
Good luck everyone BrainyLucario
no more votes, we dont want to insta maelstrom has some info to reveal
also i have a bunch of logs to post
thc and brainy
Pearl - Yesterday at 9:47 PM
This is Noc we're talking about
his logic is weird
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 9:48 PM
You didn't have to follow it, though
Pearl - Yesterday at 9:48 PM
but it was either that or set in the dark alone
with you three on my back
This is why i wanted those logs
for me and Toby to go through
It would shed some light on some of Noc's suspicions between you three
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 9:51 PM
Whaddaya mean?
Besides, I'm on mobile. Can't give logs now anyway.
Pearl - Yesterday at 9:51 PM
He thought one of you was a wolf
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 9:52 PM
My gut says Mael if you're telling the truth
Pearl - Yesterday at 9:53 PM
Well, neither Mael nor Dudeman has contacted me about an Andy wolf team sooo
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 9:53 PM
Obviously if you are Andy, the wolves want you lynched
Pearl - Yesterday at 9:53 PM
either i'm dead or just too suspicious or none of you are wolves
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 9:53 PM
Otherwise you wouldn't be painted red
Pearl - Yesterday at 9:54 PM
but this would mean there was another red check at most
wolves are too smart
they would have used it on themselves
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 9:54 PM
Toby could be a wolf. There was something he said near the beginning of the game that didn't sit right with ms
*me
If a wolf didn't paint you, then you would have to actually be red
Or not be Andy
Pearl - Yesterday at 9:55 PM
or you could be the Newbie like i said
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 9:56 PM
I'm pretty sure that meant that he was seered as red, not that he sees everyone red.
Cause he is seered as red
Pearl - Yesterday at 9:56 PM
let me check again
oops i meant Addict
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 9:57 PM
Possible
But I don't want to take chances
I have a plan already
To see if you're true or lying
Pearl - Yesterday at 9:58 PM
Good!
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 9:59 PM
Gonna take a couple phases though
So as long as I'm not lynched or wolfkilled
And if you're wolf, I obviously will be wolfkilled tonight
Pearl - Yesterday at 10:01 PM
Good luck with not getting lynched with Toby on your back
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 10:01 PM
I'm sending him the examples
And it seems that half his stuff was said jokingly
Pearl - Yesterday at 10:02 PM
Yeah, that's Toby for you
Alright so i might have painted myself blue
but thats the only paint i promise
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 10:23 PM
I'm starting to trust you less
Cause that's a bit of crucial info you left out
Pearl - Yesterday at 10:23 PM
Don't blame you there
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 10:23 PM
I'm claiming my seering to Discord
Pearl - Yesterday at 10:23 PM
okay
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 10:24 PM
Gonna keep digging yourself further down, aren'tcha?
Pearl - Yesterday at 10:25 PM
I dont need to, This is helping confirm your humanity to me
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 10:28 PM
Way I see it, you're confirming your wolfanity to me.
Pearl - Yesterday at 10:30 PM
I'm almost ready to invite you to mine and Toby's convo
Yeah, i'm adding you in the morning
sleep tight
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 10:32 PM
I still don't trust you
Pearl - Yesterday at 10:33 PM
Which is why you're a likely human
good humans are always suspicious
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 10:34 PM
Right now, the only person I know is human is me and Noc.
Dudeman didn't seer you
Pearl - Yesterday at 10:42 PM
Who did he seer?
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 10:42 PM
Don't remember. Also, not going to share even if I did remember.
Pearl - Yesterday at 10:42 PM
alright
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 10:43 PM
I need someone to trust, so I'm willing to tell you he didn't seer you, but you're too suspicious to trust with his actual seering.
Pearl - Yesterday at 10:43 PM
Good reasoning is good! More human points for you
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 10:44 PM
The more you talk about confirming my humanity, the less I believe you. Especially since each time it's more flamboyant than the last.
Pearl - Yesterday at 10:45 PM
I'm just proud of how far you've come
really good improvement from your older games
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 10:46 PM
Flattery will get you nowhere
Pearl - Yesterday at 10:47 PM
But it shows you're going somewhere!
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 10:47 PM
Just because I'm cautious doesn't mean I'm not falling for a wolf trap
Pearl - Yesterday at 10:48 PM
True, but it helps avoid them
which is a start
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 10:48 PM
Cause last time I ignored my gut feeling and we lost quickly.
Now my gut feeling is you and Toby
But I'm willing to ride this one out
Make sure first
Pearl - Yesterday at 10:50 PM
That's not always a good idea
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 10:50 PM
I know
But I don't want to jump the gun
Pearl - Yesterday at 10:50 PM
which is an even worse idea
look at what that cost me in TWG 100
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 10:51 PM
I find it ironic that I'm the addict
Pearl - Yesterday at 10:51 PM
?
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 10:51 PM
Sincenthe only reason I know Bowie is the Labyrinth
*Since the
Also, my main suspicion on you is because Andy would have no reason to paint himself blue. He doesn't hurt or help either side and wouldn't really have to worry about someone seeing his true color.
Especially since addict shares it
Pearl - Yesterday at 10:53 PM
it does if I'm playing for the humans
wolves'll try and kill me
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 10:54 PM
Not necessarily
And they have no way of knowing you're for humans unless they have a spy
Pearl - Yesterday at 10:54 PM
i.e. the group chat with you Noc Dudeman and Maestro was the reason i painted
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 10:55 PM
Or Toby, Toby could be wolf
Pearl - Yesterday at 10:55 PM
god i hope not
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 10:55 PM
There was still that thing he said that bothered me
I wish I could remember what
Pearl - Yesterday at 10:55 PM
discord search bar
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 10:56 PM
Don't bring logic into this
Pearl - Yesterday at 10:56 PM
in TWG? Never
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 11:02 PM
I can't find it. I just remember it rubbing me the wrong way.
Pearl - Yesterday at 11:02 PM
Well i
'm going to sleep
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 11:02 PM
Me too
Pearl - Yesterday at 11:02 PM
stupid enter key
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 11:03 PM
G'night
Pearl - Yesterday at 11:03 PM
nighty night
April 6, 2018
ThatHiddenCharacter - Today at 11:43 AM
Mael's claiming Andy, and while I don't trust you, I trust him less.
So you're in my better grace's for now.
Pearl - Today at 2:40 PM
Alright I'm not Andy....
I'm town
ThatHiddenCharacter - Today at 2:40 PM
Either this is Minnesota State Fair all over again or you're wolf
Pearl - Today at 2:40 PM
You still salty about that cookie?
ThatHiddenCharacter - Today at 2:41 PM
Who isn't?
Gonna give me reasoning, or should I post this log so people in now you're a wolf?
*know
Pearl - Today at 2:41 PM
I don't want you guys to mess up by lynching Andy
Post this if you want, I just don't want Andy to die. I panicked with y claim there
Mostly because I had like 3 people angry at me
Heck, I haven't even told Toby about this since I don't trust him as much anymore
ThatHiddenCharacter - Today at 2:44 PM
...
Why would you fake claim to someone who for all you knew was the actual Andy?
Pearl - Today at 2:46 PM
Like I said, I tend to panic in these games
ThatHiddenCharacter - Today at 2:50 PM
I tend to panic, but you don't see me fake claiming
Ever
Pearl - Today at 2:50 PM
You see me fake claiming a lot
ThatHiddenCharacter - Today at 2:50 PM
Yes
Many many many many many many many many many many times
Pearl - Today at 2:51 PM
I don't think that's a good idea anymore
ThatHiddenCharacter - Today at 2:51 PM
It never is
I haven't even seen anyone against you until you were proven a fake claim
Before people even knew you claimed, you weren't even close to main suspicion
Pearl - Today at 2:53 PM
Well at least we got the fact that your the Addict out of it
ThatHiddenCharacter - Today at 2:53 PM
True
Unless you're a persistent wolf
Pearl - Today at 2:53 PM
and my death....probably
I'm a broken man at this point, i would've thrown in the towel if i was a wolf
ThatHiddenCharacter - Today at 2:54 PM
Like when I wolfed myself
Pearl - Today at 2:54 PM
yeah, only i would've just claimed or something
ThatHiddenCharacter - Today at 2:54 PM
Doubt that
A wolf would hold it out til the end
Pearl - Today at 2:55 PM
Well it's never happened before so i wouldn't know
ThatHiddenCharacter - Today at 2:55 PM
Regardless of being broken and obvious
You've never been lynched as a wolf?
Pearl - Today at 2:55 PM
Toby wants this chat log for some reason
ThatHiddenCharacter - Today at 2:55 PM
I know he does
Pearl - Today at 2:55 PM
i was once at like the first day phase
ThatHiddenCharacter - Today at 2:56 PM
This is the first day phase
Pearl - Today at 2:56 PM
oh yeah, that night phase messed with me
ThatHiddenCharacter - Today at 2:57 PM
Give him the logs. Right now, he thinks you're a wolf and the only chance you have of changing his mind, even if it's an extremely small chance, is by sending the logs
If you don't, I will, but it will look better coming from you
Because a wolf wouldn't do that willingly
Pearl - Today at 2:57 PM
Alright
brainy and noc
NocturneOfShadow - Yesterday at 3:34 PM
Okay fine, you're persistent enough
I'm town
Pearl - Yesterday at 3:35 PM
Frick...
I was hopeful
NocturneOfShadow - Yesterday at 3:35 PM
I created a group chat with mael dudeman and thc
Pearl - Yesterday at 3:35 PM
Bad idea
NocturneOfShadow - Yesterday at 3:35 PM
But here's the thing
Since you're Andy that group is no longer mechanically clear
If you agree not to paint anyone in the night I'll help you achieve your win
If I do die by that group then Toby is probably not scum
Pearl - Yesterday at 3:39 PM
So you want me to side with town? I like a good challenge
i'm down
Also noted about the Toby thing
NocturneOfShadow - Yesterday at 3:40 PM
This game is actually super easy for town to win if you don't paint
Pearl - Yesterday at 3:48 PM
So your seering on....THC? I think. Should be right unless he was wolf painted
NocturneOfShadow - Yesterday at 3:49 PM
Man you being a wolf would've been too easy I guess
If you totally got me though, you're still stuck
Since a real Andy Warhol claim means you're a wolf
Pearl - Yesterday at 3:50 PM
You mean a counterclaim?
NocturneOfShadow - Yesterday at 3:51 PM
Did you claim publicly or something
Pearl - Yesterday at 3:51 PM
No
NocturneOfShadow - Yesterday at 3:51 PM
Then it's not a counterclaim
Pearl - Yesterday at 3:51 PM
i was referring to Mael, THC and Dudeman. Did he claim or something?
NocturneOfShadow - Yesterday at 3:52 PM
No
Pearl - Yesterday at 3:52 PM
cuz if we get a claim i can probably try and get them to admit that they're a wolf
NocturneOfShadow - Yesterday at 3:53 PM
Maybe I should claim Andy
If someone else claims we gottem
I can also act as Andy on your behalf
So if the wolves try to stop you from winning they whiff
Pearl - Yesterday at 3:55 PM
I like that idea
NocturneOfShadow - Yesterday at 3:56 PM
It guarantee a you a win
Since I claim no paint tonight wolves won't dare hit me
Then I paint 3 tomorrow and say who I'm painting
Wolves try to kill me
You live long enough to paint 3 more players
And win
Pearl - Yesterday at 3:58 PM
Noc you are a genius
NocturneOfShadow - Yesterday at 3:59 PM
If there's no kill in the night we've outed one of the wolves
Since the only people who know you're Andy are me mael dudeman and thc
Pearl - Yesterday at 4:00 PM
and if i die?
NocturneOfShadow - Yesterday at 4:00 PM
You can't die tonight
Because you're not painting anyone
Pearl - Yesterday at 4:01 PM
This might actually work then
NocturneOfShadow - Yesterday at 4:01 PM
Tomorrow night you paint the players we have determined are town and if you die there we ensure an endgame where there are enough living painted players for you to win
That's where the alliance comes in
Pearl - Yesterday at 5:56 PM
Hey Noc, Olimar doesn't want to do the player below thing
What are we going to do about that?
NocturneOfShadow - Yesterday at 5:57 PM
I think we just can't do anything
Is olimar
Pearl - Yesterday at 5:58 PM
Also were you planning on claiming tonight or tomorrow? Tonight could be risky but it would give us results faster. Also you should realize that if the wolf is in that group, wouldn't it be easier to wolf you?
Since they could risk me not painting anyone
NocturneOfShadow - Yesterday at 5:59 PM
There's at least one human in the group
They're aware
Pearl - Yesterday at 6:01 PM
We could actually pinpoint this without you claiming is what I'm saying
But the claiming has the benefit of outing a wolf
If no night kill happens then Either Maelstrom THC or Dudeman is a wolf
Plus we gain the added benefit of not risking your life
On the other hand, if the wolf is not in the group, then we get zero evidence against them
And if their was a wolf in that group, none of them have contacted me so either they don't believe you, they don't believe me, or none of them are wolves
NocturneOfShadow - Yesterday at 6:05 PM
That's good to know actually
Pearl - Yesterday at 6:07 PM
I figured it would be
I could try and talk to Olimar about changing his mind
But that would expose me to someone else
And increase the pool of people
NocturneOfShadow - Yesterday at 6:08 PM
Let's just not do anything tonight
Paint nobody stay alive
Pearl - Yesterday at 6:09 PM
Profit
me and brainy
Toby - Yesterday at 2:06 AM
Pearl - Today at 2:01 AM
Well this stinks
I think I may have a lead on the wolves now though
Toby - Today at 2:02 AM
oh?
Pearl - Today at 2:03 AM
Noc and Me were in an alliance. He claimed Andy to me, but I knew it was a fake claim, since I was Andy
Hint hint
Toby - Today at 2:04 AM
oh
im guessing you maybe weren't the only person to receive that
and maybe a wolf wolfed him for it :?
Pearl - Today at 2:04 AM
Probably
Toby - Today at 2:04 AM
but who do you think the wolves are then
Pearl - Today at 2:05 AM
I have a suspicion on THC
But I need more proof for him, Dudeman also comes off as a particular based on his responses in a group chat Noc created with Dudeman Maelstrom and THC
might as well add bds and spam his inbox :>
Pearl - Yesterday at 2:07 AM
Noc said you seemed the most human and to trust you if he died
So congrats I guess
Toby - Yesterday at 2:08 AM
why would noc create a group chat him him dudeman maelstorm and thc
i disagree with reading me human as i believe my play could be read as disinterested and unfocused but ok
Pearl - Yesterday at 2:09 AM
I'm guessing for reaction tests
He likes those
Toby - Yesterday at 2:09 AM
were you in this group chat?
i dont get why i wouldnt be
Pearl - Yesterday at 2:09 AM
No
Toby - Yesterday at 2:09 AM
i dont think you can collect much from a 4 person group chat
Pearl - Yesterday at 2:10 AM
This is Noc we're talking about
Toby - Yesterday at 2:10 AM
any more than you could collect from the public one
yea
do you have a log of the chat by any chance
Pearl - Yesterday at 2:10 AM
He never sent one
Toby - Yesterday at 2:10 AM
at least to reference the parts on thc you found odd
oh
oh sorry you said dudeman
not thc
Pearl - Yesterday at 2:10 AM
But we did have a plan. I'll log that
Toby - Yesterday at 2:10 AM
please :>
im guessing you want to help humans?
Pearl - Yesterday at 2:11 AM
Correct. I'm no scum
Toby - Yesterday at 2:11 AM
but you want to remain anonymous?
Pearl - Yesterday at 2:11 AM
Exactly, because the wolves'll kill me if I ally with you guys
Toby - Yesterday at 2:12 AM
ok
what was your action last night ?
Pearl - Yesterday at 2:12 AM
No painting
Toby - Yesterday at 2:12 AM
ok
so what was the plan noc had with you :?
or whoever it was with
does anyone else know you're third party:?
Pearl - Yesterday at 2:14 AM
NocturneOfShadow - Today at 3:53 PM
Maybe I should claim Andy
If someone else claims we gottem
I can also act as Andy on your behalf
So if the wolves try to stop you from winning they whiff
Pearl - Today at 3:55 PM
I like that idea
NocturneOfShadow - Today at 3:56 PM
It guarantee a you a win
Since I claim no paint tonight wolves won't dare hit me
Then I paint 3 tomorrow and say who I'm painting
Wolves try to kill me
You live long enough to paint 3 more players
And win
Pearl - Today at 3:58 PM
Noc you are a genius
NocturneOfShadow - Today at 3:59 PM
If there's no kill in the night we've outed one of the wolves
Since the only people who know you're Andy are me mael dudeman and thc
Pearl - Today at 4:00 PM
and if i die?
NocturneOfShadow - Today at 4:00 PM
You can't die tonight
Because you're not painting anyone
Pearl - Today at 4:01 PM
This might actually work then
NocturneOfShadow - Today at 4:01 PM
Tomorrow night you paint the players we have determined are town and if you die there we ensure an endgame where there are enough living painted players for you to win
That's where the alliance comes in
Pearl - Today at 5:56 PM
Hey Noc, Olimar doesn't want to do the player below thing
What are we going to do about that?
NocturneOfShadow - Today at 5:57 PM
I think we just can't do anything
Is olimar
Pearl - Today at 5:58 PM
Also were you planning on claiming tonight or tomorrow? Tonight could be risky but it would give us results faster. Also you should realize that if the wolf is in that group, wouldn't it be easier to wolf you?
Since they could risk me not painting anyone
NocturneOfShadow - Today at 5:59 PM
There's at least one human in the group
They're aware
Toby - Yesterday at 2:15 AM
also you mentioned dudeman came off as particular based on a response, what was that ?
Pearl - Yesterday at 2:16 AM
Noc was more suspicious than me, i never got the chance to ask him about it. But Noc said it was a gut feeling. Not super solid but meh
They're aware
Pearl - Today at 6:01 PM
We could actually pinpoint this without you claiming is what I'm saying
But the claiming has the benefit of outing a wolf
If no night kill happens then Either Maelstrom THC or Dudeman is a wolf
Plus we gain the added benefit of not risking your life
On the other hand, if the wolf is not in the group, then we get zero evidence against them
And if their was a wolf in that group, none of them have contacted me so either they don't believe you, they don't believe me, or none of them are wolves
NocturneOfShadow - Today at 6:05 PM
That's good to know actually
Pearl - Today at 6:07 PM
I figured it would be
I could try and talk to Olimar about changing his mind
But that would expose me to someone else
And increase the pool of people
NocturneOfShadow - Today at 6:08 PM
Let's just not do anything tonight
Paint nobody stay alive
Pearl - Today at 6:09 PM
Profit
Toby - Yesterday at 2:18 AM
i dont get why noc died
noc is easy lynch
Pearl - Yesterday at 2:18 AM
Neither do i
Toby - Yesterday at 2:18 AM
but dudeman could do it in an attempt to use the 'i would never wolf noc' card
which makes me interested in finding out what that point was
so mael thc and dudeman all know you're the third party
Pearl - Yesterday at 2:19 AM
What did your seering come back as?
and yeah
Toby - Yesterday at 2:19 AM
i seered mikey
lol
blue
Pearl - Yesterday at 2:19 AM
rip
Toby - Yesterday at 2:19 AM
i had a big post on how i found him suspicious
if u think im lying
So I don't want to take my thoughts to the grave:
I'm feeling suspicious of mikey, there was a public chat I had with him on discord where he reacted strangely:
Toby - Yesterday at 2:06 AM
Pearl - Today at 2:01 AM
Well this stinks
I think I may have a lead on the wolves now though
Toby - Today at 2:02 AM
oh?
Pearl - Today at 2:03 AM
Noc and Me were in an alliance. He claimed Andy to me, but I knew it was a fake claim, since I was Andy
Hint hint
Toby - Today at 2:04 AM
oh
im guessing you maybe weren't the only person to receive that
and maybe a wolf wolfed him for it :?
Pearl - Today at 2:04 AM
Probably
Toby - Today at 2:04 AM
but who do you think the wolves are then
Pearl - Today at 2:05 AM
I have a suspicion on THC
But I need more proof for him, Dudeman also comes off as a particular based on his responses in a group chat Noc created with Dudeman Maelstrom and THC
might as well add bds and spam his inbox :>
Pearl - Yesterday at 2:07 AM
Noc said you seemed the most human and to trust you if he died
So congrats I guess
Toby - Yesterday at 2:08 AM
why would noc create a group chat him him dudeman maelstorm and thc
i disagree with reading me human as i believe my play could be read as disinterested and unfocused but ok
Pearl - Yesterday at 2:09 AM
I'm guessing for reaction tests
He likes those
Toby - Yesterday at 2:09 AM
were you in this group chat?
i dont get why i wouldnt be
Pearl - Yesterday at 2:09 AM
No
Toby - Yesterday at 2:09 AM
i dont think you can collect much from a 4 person group chat
Pearl - Yesterday at 2:10 AM
This is Noc we're talking about
Toby - Yesterday at 2:10 AM
any more than you could collect from the public one
yea
do you have a log of the chat by any chance
Pearl - Yesterday at 2:10 AM
He never sent one
Toby - Yesterday at 2:10 AM
at least to reference the parts on thc you found odd
oh
oh sorry you said dudeman
not thc
Pearl - Yesterday at 2:10 AM
But we did have a plan. I'll log that
Toby - Yesterday at 2:10 AM
please :>
im guessing you want to help humans?
Pearl - Yesterday at 2:11 AM
Correct. I'm no scum
Toby - Yesterday at 2:11 AM
but you want to remain anonymous?
Pearl - Yesterday at 2:11 AM
Exactly, because the wolves'll kill me if I ally with you guys
Toby - Yesterday at 2:12 AM
ok
what was your action last night ?
Pearl - Yesterday at 2:12 AM
No painting
Toby - Yesterday at 2:12 AM
ok
so what was the plan noc had with you :?
or whoever it was with
does anyone else know you're third party:?
Pearl - Yesterday at 2:14 AM
NocturneOfShadow - Today at 3:53 PM
Maybe I should claim Andy
If someone else claims we gottem
I can also act as Andy on your behalf
So if the wolves try to stop you from winning they whiff
Pearl - Today at 3:55 PM
I like that idea
NocturneOfShadow - Today at 3:56 PM
It guarantee a you a win
Since I claim no paint tonight wolves won't dare hit me
Then I paint 3 tomorrow and say who I'm painting
Wolves try to kill me
You live long enough to paint 3 more players
And win
Pearl - Today at 3:58 PM
Noc you are a genius
NocturneOfShadow - Today at 3:59 PM
If there's no kill in the night we've outed one of the wolves
Since the only people who know you're Andy are me mael dudeman and thc
Pearl - Today at 4:00 PM
and if i die?
NocturneOfShadow - Today at 4:00 PM
You can't die tonight
Because you're not painting anyone
Pearl - Today at 4:01 PM
This might actually work then
NocturneOfShadow - Today at 4:01 PM
Tomorrow night you paint the players we have determined are town and if you die there we ensure an endgame where there are enough living painted players for you to win
That's where the alliance comes in
Pearl - Today at 5:56 PM
Hey Noc, Olimar doesn't want to do the player below thing
What are we going to do about that?
NocturneOfShadow - Today at 5:57 PM
I think we just can't do anything
Is olimar
Pearl - Today at 5:58 PM
Also were you planning on claiming tonight or tomorrow? Tonight could be risky but it would give us results faster. Also you should realize that if the wolf is in that group, wouldn't it be easier to wolf you?
Since they could risk me not painting anyone
NocturneOfShadow - Today at 5:59 PM
There's at least one human in the group
They're aware
Toby - Yesterday at 2:15 AM
also you mentioned dudeman came off as particular based on a response, what was that ?
Pearl - Yesterday at 2:16 AM
Noc was more suspicious than me, i never got the chance to ask him about it. But Noc said it was a gut feeling. Not super solid but meh
They're aware
Pearl - Today at 6:01 PM
We could actually pinpoint this without you claiming is what I'm saying
But the claiming has the benefit of outing a wolf
If no night kill happens then Either Maelstrom THC or Dudeman is a wolf
Plus we gain the added benefit of not risking your life
On the other hand, if the wolf is not in the group, then we get zero evidence against them
And if their was a wolf in that group, none of them have contacted me so either they don't believe you, they don't believe me, or none of them are wolves
NocturneOfShadow - Today at 6:05 PM
That's good to know actually
Pearl - Today at 6:07 PM
I figured it would be
I could try and talk to Olimar about changing his mind
But that would expose me to someone else
And increase the pool of people
NocturneOfShadow - Today at 6:08 PM
Let's just not do anything tonight
Paint nobody stay alive
Pearl - Today at 6:09 PM
Profit
Toby - Yesterday at 2:18 AM
i dont get why noc died
noc is easy lynch
Pearl - Yesterday at 2:18 AM
Neither do i
Toby - Yesterday at 2:18 AM
but dudeman could do it in an attempt to use the 'i would never wolf noc' card
which makes me interested in finding out what that point was
so mael thc and dudeman all know you're the third party
Pearl - Yesterday at 2:19 AM
What did your seering come back as?
and yeah
Toby - Yesterday at 2:19 AM
i seered mikey
lol
blue
Pearl - Yesterday at 2:19 AM
rip
Toby - Yesterday at 2:19 AM
i had a big post on how i found him suspicious
if u think im lying
So I don't want to take my thoughts to the grave:
I'm feeling suspicious of mikey, there was a public chat I had with him on discord where he reacted strangely:
Toby - Last Wednesday at 8:58 PM
tbh if the wolves are smart sending in a night action isnt even a priority
our seers will really only help us identify the third party
Toby - Last Wednesday at 9:00 PM
which i have no interest in lynching
or revealing
Mikey - Last Wednesday at 9:00 PM
I'm not interested in lynching third party either
Dudeman - Last Wednesday at 9:01 PM
Lynching him's definitely off the table
I'm not sold on not revealing him
Toby - Last Wednesday at 9:02 PM
i feel like my opinion on that was a common one, and sort of implied as so, i find it weird you wanted to chime in to agree as if your opinion on the third party would have been different, mikey
Mikey - Last Wednesday at 9:03 PM
oh I think I was going to have a but after that
but I'm not sure what I was gonna say
Dudeman - Last Wednesday at 9:03 PM
if you don't know what to say, don't say anything until you do
Toby - Last Wednesday at 9:03 PM
why do i think of hydradoodle just now
Dudeman - Last Wednesday at 9:03 PM
:thonk:
Toby - Last Wednesday at 9:03 PM
when i called out olimar and you wanted to fix what he said with an excuse
and now you bring up this
Mikey - Last Wednesday at 9:04 PM
idk, why do you think of hydradoodle
thats part of it
but character limit and im lazy
but if you want to see it all (its useless now but in case you dont believe i was suspicious of noc and im faking that i seered him)
i could pm you it
but i very well could have typed it up as a wolf and post it in attempts to look good for being suspicious of my wolfing target
Pearl - Yesterday at 2:22 AM
Mmmmm... i believe you
Toby - Yesterday at 2:22 AM
good cause im lazy
and i understand you believing me doesnt mean you believe im human
lol
ok so since mael thc and dudeman know you're third party
i think you should ask 2 of them for the logs they had with nocturne
actually ask all of them, in case they give you 1 on 1s with noc too
but only ask the next person once the first person gives you what they got
because if you ask them at the same time and 2 of them are wolves then they can discuss what they want to send, knowing that you asked all of them for logs
i would suggest saying something like this 'nocturne told me he had numerous conversations with you, im in contact with a human player who would like to see them if you could send them to me'
that way if they have any 1 on 1s with nocturne, you're sort of giving the impression you know about it
and if they're human and have nothing to hide they'll be happy to post them anyway
Pearl - Yesterday at 2:28 AM
THC wont share them with me
Toby - Yesterday at 2:28 AM
:OOO
Pearl - Yesterday at 2:28 AM
nocturne told me he had numerous conversations with you, im in contact with a human player who would like to see them if you could send them to me
ThatHiddenCharacter - Today at 8:27 PM
I don't trust you enough. I have my reasons.
Pearl - Today at 8:27 PM
Well, you have my respect for standing firm on your decision.
Toby - Yesterday at 2:30 AM
thc is new so its possible that he believes he has something to fear by not trusting you
when in fact as a human he doesnt
Pearl - Yesterday at 2:30 AM
Oh yeah, i need to tell you something important
I originally claimed to Noc as a wolf, to get a reaction from him
Toby - Yesterday at 2:31 AM
lol good move
Pearl - Yesterday at 2:31 AM
that's probably what the group chat was for
Toby - Yesterday at 2:31 AM
though im surprised he didnt call you out in chat
Pearl - Yesterday at 2:31 AM
so THC is kind of in the right for being suspicious.
Toby - Yesterday at 2:31 AM
maybe thc doesnt trust you because noc didnt trust you :?
and noc put that in chat
Pearl - Yesterday at 2:32 AM
Noc left the group once i claimed though
Toby - Yesterday at 2:32 AM
or at least pretended to not trust you
oh
Pearl - Yesterday at 2:33 AM
We should probably just keep a close eye on them two to be safe though
Toby - Yesterday at 2:33 AM
could you say to thc that as a human he doesnt have anything to fear by revealing his chats with another human to a wolf
so he shouldnt be reluctant to send logs to you
i dont want to do it myself because there's not much point if i can be anonymous
and if noc was wolfed because people knew he was chatting to you, then id rather not be next
Pearl - Yesterday at 2:36 AM
I understand that much
Yeah no he's a hard shell to crack
THC isn't gonna give in
Toby - Yesterday at 2:39 AM
lol
as a human he should send it
but im not sure he knows that
Pearl - Yesterday at 2:39 AM
He does
I blatantly told him
Toby - Yesterday at 2:40 AM
true but in some world he might think as a wolf he shouldnt believe you
Pearl - Yesterday at 2:40 AM
Let's keep an eye on him
Toby - Yesterday at 2:40 AM
yeah
if this was any other player id be a lot more suspicious
but im more forgiving on thc because i dont think he is very experienced
Pearl - Yesterday at 2:41 AM
Mhm. Makes sense
Toby - Yesterday at 2:41 AM
but if he is a wolf im sure it will unravel easily by keeping a close eye on his posts now
Pearl - Yesterday at 2:43 AM
Dudeman's response is human like in theory
Toby - Yesterday at 2:43 AM
yes
if he was a wolf i would expect him to say not nocturne because thats an easy lynch
Pearl - Yesterday at 2:43 AM
It's truthful in every way
based on what i saw of his wolf metta in Hydra
I know his style pretty well
Toby - Yesterday at 2:48 AM
yeah, he was very careful and calculated
i noticed he was continuing to type after he made his response, but then he didnt post anything
he was possibly going to add how he wouldnt wolf nocturne
but we'll never know
Pearl - Yesterday at 2:49 AM
That's a little too much there
Toby - Yesterday at 2:49 AM
we do know he reconsidered something though
Pearl - Yesterday at 2:50 AM
lol Mael
Toby - Yesterday at 2:50 AM
but cant really put anything together on it lol
Pearl - Yesterday at 2:50 AM
He could be pondering something
Toby - Yesterday at 2:51 AM
maybe
also
Pearl - Today at 2:49 AM
That's a little too much there
did you mean what i said in the public chat
or this chat
lol
Pearl - Yesterday at 2:52 AM
this chat
Toby - Yesterday at 2:52 AM
ok
i agree
Pearl - Yesterday at 3:02 AM
Woah dude you're burying him
this is really impressive
Toby - Yesterday at 3:04 AM
LOL
Pearl - Yesterday at 3:17 AM
I think Noc was right in trusting you jeez
Toby - Yesterday at 3:18 AM
lol
boi you dont know my wolf play
ill give you a clue
Pearl - Yesterday at 3:19 AM
I'm scared of it
Toby - Yesterday at 3:19 AM
its exactly like this
but so is my human play
Pearl - Yesterday at 3:19 AM
make that TERRIFIED
Toby - Yesterday at 3:19 AM
whats the difference
Pearl - Yesterday at 3:20 AM
Severity levels
THC is Newbie
or semi confirmed human
he seered me red
oops i meant Addict. Misread that
Toby - Yesterday at 4:01 AM
He told you in private ?
Pearl - Yesterday at 4:02 AM
no, i got it out of him
we're talking atm'
Toby - Yesterday at 4:02 AM
Might be reaction test
I'm rlly going to sleep now though
Pearl - Yesterday at 4:02 AM
Gud night
alright s i miiight have painted myself blue
but thats it
Toby - Yesterday at 12:33 PM
Yeah you're not third party
Pearl - Yesterday at 5:57 PM
Yes, I am
Toby - Yesterday at 5:57 PM
so what was your actions last night
Pearl - Yesterday at 5:58 PM
I painted myself and stopped there to avoid painting anyone else
Noc wanted the seer results to be clear
Toby - Yesterday at 5:59 PM
but you need to paint people to win
Pearl - Yesterday at 6:00 PM
And Noc and I planned to do that after this.
He wanted to get confirmed blues first
Toby - Yesterday at 6:00 PM
you lied to me, you said you didn't use any action
if it was your original plan to paint yourself you would have told me
Pearl - Yesterday at 6:01 PM
Yes, I did
I didn't find it necessary to tell you
Are you seriously going to believe Maelstrom over me
Toby - Yesterday at 6:02 PM
maybe
you didnt need to lie though
that wasnt necessary
Pearl - Yesterday at 6:02 PM
I have trust issues since last TWG.....
E. Gadd messed me up big time
Toby - Yesterday at 6:03 PM
lying for no good reason seems like i should be having trust issues
so what you're saying is your vote counts for 2
we can test that
or did you paint anyone else
Pearl - Yesterday at 6:03 PM
I'm not blaming you for not me and no
*trusting me
Toby - Yesterday at 6:04 PM
ok
i dont care much anymore because we're lynching a wolf today
can i see all your logs with other plays pls
other plahers
players
Pearl - Yesterday at 6:16 PM
You mean THC?
Cuz I showed you Noc's log
Toby - Yesterday at 6:18 PM
well idk if you had anything else
but yes thc
also theres more to nocs log that you didnt show, because i dont see anything about him talking about how you should trust me
there's a character limit to your posts so maybe it got cut out idk
Pearl - Yesterday at 6:20 PM
Ok
Toby - Yesterday at 8:44 PM
Do you have the logs
Pearl - Yesterday at 8:46 PM
I'm not Andy
Maelstrom is the real andy
Toby - Yesterday at 8:47 PM
Yeah you're a wolf then
Pearl - Yesterday at 8:47 PM
I'm not a wolf
Toby - Yesterday at 8:47 PM
Show me all the logs you have with other people
Then
Pm me them on nsm
Pearl - Yesterday at 8:47 PM
Alrighty
I seered Maelstrom blue btw
So he's not lying about that
Toby - Yesterday at 8:54 PM
I'm driving now I'll be back in thirty minutes
Pearl - Yesterday at 8:54 PM
ok
Pearl - Yesterday at 9:02 PM
sent you them
Toby - Yesterday at 9:25 PM
Ok I'll have a look in a few mins when I get home
ok i read them
i dont like how you've said this
Pearl - Yesterday at 3:52 PM
cuz if we get a claim i can probably try and get them to admit that they're a wolf
but now we have a claim and you've done nothing to get them to say they're a wolf, in fact you're not even andy so i dont know why you would have said that
Pearl - Yesterday at 10:35 PM
Lynch me then
Toby - Yesterday at 10:38 PM
:<
Pearl - Yesterday at 10:40 PM
I'm not Andy. Maelstrom is the real one. I'm a town that flew too close to the sun.
Toby - Yesterday at 10:43 PM
what benefit does that give anyone
Pearl - Yesterday at 10:48 PM
It confirmed THC as the Addict
Toby - Yesterday at 10:56 PM
did it though
or would we have found out anyway
Pearl - Yesterday at 10:56 PM
Probably not
You and THC are in a convo right now so at least I helped a little before probably dying
I assume at least
me and thc
Toby - Yesterday at 2:36 AM
if u saw that message i sent you, then you can ignore it i guess because i didnt die
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 2:36 AM
I saw
Toby - Yesterday at 2:37 AM
also im in an awkward position because noc is dead and it was all on noc LOL
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 2:37 AM
But only read the beginning cause it was after phase end
Toby - Yesterday at 2:37 AM
yeah its mostly useless now
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 2:37 AM
Well, that's not good
Toby - Yesterday at 2:37 AM
just letting you know i probably wont post it, and you shouldnt be suspicious for whatever reason
because you know, its mostly useless since noc died
which i did not expect
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 2:38 AM
I'm not suspicious yet
But I don't trust you enough to share information quite yet
Toby - Yesterday at 2:39 AM
yeah obviously
i dont expect you to share information to me
did you think i wanted that
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 2:39 AM
No
But I was just making sure
Gotta plan for everything
Toby - Yesterday at 2:39 AM
ok
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 3:50 AM
Here's my first game. This is probably the worst of them. It's already on the page. I think the page before it had stuff too. http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=9588.75
twg xcv: nothing special
twg xcv: nothing special
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 4:04 AM
This page and the next couple. http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=9644.150
TWG XCVI: The Great Minnesota Get-Together
TWG XCVI: The Great Minnesota Get-Together
I'm just gonna flat up say I went bat-shit crazy in TWG C. And I lived much longer than I should have. And it was my first and only wolf game.
And I did surprisingly well in hydradoodle. No really bad plays there at all. Was also carrying my entire account, Davy did nothing.
Was the seer then
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 5:49 PM
Brainy's telling me to trust you, and while I don't trust you or Brainy, I think Mael is lying. So right now, I'm choosing to trust you two over Dudeman and Maelstrom. Way I see it, the wolf combo is either Toby/Brainy or Dudeman/Mael.
Toby - Yesterday at 5:50 PM
why would it be dudeman and maelstrom
and why do you think mael is lying
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 5:50 PM
Dudeman has the same information I have that makes Mael supicious, but he hasn't called him out and he also gave a blue check and insisted on seering Mael.
Private convos between Noc, Dudeman, Mael, and I.
Toby - Yesterday at 5:51 PM
can i see those
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 5:51 PM
I'm on mobile right now, so later
Toby - Yesterday at 5:51 PM
ok
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 5:51 PM
I'll give a summary for now
Mael never once mentioned being Andy when Noc was fake-claiming to Brainy and when Noc said Brainy called him out for being fake. Brainy said that Noc told him to trust you as well, and I trust Noc in this game.
But it seems like Dudeman and Mael are in kahoots
Toby - Yesterday at 5:55 PM
so why were you chatting to brainy
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 5:56 PM
He messaged me
Said he was trying to confirm my humanity
Because I was being suspicious of him or something
That makes me town in his eyes
Also, I'm still in a convo with Dudeman and Mael, so I can play dumb and be a spy for you
Toby - Yesterday at 5:59 PM
why would you do that for me
you dont trust me
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 5:59 PM
I trust you the most out of everyone
But I don't trust anyone
Toby - Yesterday at 5:59 PM
but you think there's a possibility that me and brainy could be wolves
Toby - Yesterday at 6:00 PM
why arent you messaging this stuff to davy, tras, olimar
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 6:00 PM
Davy and Tras are inactive for the most part, and I still trust you more than anyone else
I believe it's more likely that Dud and Mael are wolves
And if that's the case, you and Brainy are my best allies
If you guys are wolves, I'm screwed anyway
Okay, that plan you laid out has basically confirmed your humanity to me. If you and Brainy were wolf partners, you wouldn't bring that plan up in the first place. If you were a wolf with a different partner, then there would be no benefit from that plan for you.
Toby - Yesterday at 6:11 PM
:>
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 6:12 PM
You've officially gained my trust. That's not easy to earn.
Because I have a paranoia problem
Toby - Yesterday at 6:13 PM
you havent gained mine :heart:
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 6:13 PM
I know
I need to earn it
Toby - Yesterday at 6:14 PM
what are your thoughts on the other players
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 6:15 PM
Well, nothing for Davy or Tras because they haven't said enough at all. Davy did say some stuff that seemed to be town aligned, but there wasn't enough to get a good read. Unless I missed stuff.
Olimar seems to be playing for town benefit, but I haven't had the time to read into his stuff too much
Is there anyone else?
Toby - Yesterday at 6:17 PM
brainy?
mael?
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 6:18 PM
I already said my thoughts on them
Toby - Yesterday at 6:18 PM
ok
i guess its not too relevant now anyway
so what made you seer brainy over anyone else
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 6:19 PM
He was messaging me asking for the logs between Noc, Mael, Dudeman, and me saying it was for a human he was ok contact with. Struck me as suspicious in combination with him claiming Andy to Noc.
Toby - Yesterday at 6:20 PM
ok
yeah i was the human and i told him to ask you
i wanted those logs lool
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 6:20 PM
He eventually told me
He seems to trust me completely
Toby - Yesterday at 6:20 PM
i dont get why he did that
because i asked to be anonymous
and he said ofc
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 6:20 PM
I agree, it's a bit unfounded
I think he was trying to convince me to give the logs
I didn't, though
Wait, do you still want the convo logs you asked for? Not sure how they'll help with the Mael and Brainy vote thing.
Toby - Yesterday at 6:22 PM
yeah
well we still need to find the 2nd wolf
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 6:22 PM
Fair enough
Toby - Yesterday at 6:22 PM
and noc was there and he got wolfed
so it might help
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 6:23 PM
So it's likely at least one person in the group was a wolf
Toby - Yesterday at 6:23 PM
maybe
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 6:23 PM
Possibly
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 7:03 PM
I just realized, what if Oli and Brainy are wolf partners? If Mael is actually Andy, then that could explain why I seer'd Brainy red. If he was Bowie and being stupid, he might've forgotten to paint or painted someone else and when Oli found out, he claimed blue. Or I'm addict. Kinda hoping it's the former cause that means we have more info.
He claimed Brainy as blue, I mean
Toby - Yesterday at 7:33 PM
I don't think olimar and brainy are wolves because maelstrom painted olimar and maelstrom knows who the two wolves are and i think maelstrom was planning to backstab the wolves and it wouldn't make sense if his plan involved killing off one of his paintings
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 7:34 PM
But what if Mael is lying to you?
Has he told you who the wolves are? Don't need to tell me who, that's your biz.
I'll read your response later, I gotta go clean the bathroom. *Shivers
Toby - Yesterday at 7:36 PM
It wouldn't make sense to lie about your painting targets
Because someone could have seered them and cal you out on lying
No who hasn't told me who the wolves are but he said he would reveal 1 tonight
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 8:34 PM
Well, that's a start at least
Brainy just claimed Town to me. I think he's lying
I wanna see what he says first
He's claiming that he's telling me cause he doesn't want Andy to be lynched.
Toby - Yesterday at 8:44 PM
LOL
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 8:45 PM
Saying he doesn't trust you anymore and that's why je's not telling you. I didn't ask him about you, he just mentioned.
Toby - Yesterday at 8:47 PM
Lol
I'll be back in like 30 mins
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 8:50 PM
Kk
I think Brainy is innocent. This wouldn't be the first time he's made a play like this as town.
He's sending you out logs as on the small chance it will change your mind about him
*our
When you get them, send them to me so I can corroborate if they're right
Toby - Yesterday at 9:26 PM
Or you could also send your logs to me
And I can check myself :>
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 9:27 PM
I'm on mobile
Toby - Yesterday at 9:27 PM
:frowning:
When will u be on pc
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 9:28 PM
Not until at least a few hours. At most, tomorrow. You're like GM time, right?
Toby - Yesterday at 9:28 PM
Ye
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 9:29 PM
England/Scotland/Ireland or Continental?
Or not
Apparently
I'll just go then
Toby - Yesterday at 9:31 PM
Scotland
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 9:31 PM
Ooh
Toby - Yesterday at 9:31 PM
Srry I'm walking home
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 9:31 PM
Ew, walking
Toby - Yesterday at 9:32 PM
Lol
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 9:32 PM
Anyway, I can send logs, but it will be awhile
Why don't you tell me the first and last sentences of what he sent so I know what section of the convo he sent
Toby - Yesterday at 9:41 PM
You tell me the first few words and last few words of your convo lol
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 9:41 PM
I don't know what section he sent. We've had like three separate convos but only one is relevant
The most recent convo stated with him saying he's not Andy
Toby - Yesterday at 9:43 PM
He started with 'this is noc we're talking about
But I'm guessing there is stuff before that
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 9:43 PM
Let me look for that
That's gotta be a really long log
Assuming he went up until what happened most recently
And the thing before that was him telling me Noc told him to trust you and I said Noc didn't have enough reasoning for him to do that.
And that it was a poor decision
To listen to him
Toby - Yesterday at 9:47 PM
Yeah
I'm reading it and pearl looks so bad
But this is actually kinda useless because I know pearl is a wilf
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 9:48 PM
How do ya know?
Toby - Yesterday at 9:48 PM
Too many lies and contradictions
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 9:48 PM
Have you seen his play in Minnesota State Fair?
Read that before you judge him on that
Toby - Yesterday at 9:48 PM
No but if we lose because pearl was human I'm ok with that because it'd be his own fault for our loss
But ok I'll take a look anyway
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 9:50 PM
Yeah. Gist is, he was a human with the cookie, made himself seem like a wolf so he would get lynched so the wolves couldn't have the cookie. The cookie let the person holding it not die, then the cookie disappears into the void never to be seen again.
Toby - Yesterday at 9:54 PM
I mean that plan actually kind of isn't terrible
But wastes a human lynch
His behaviour here has no help for humans
Or anyone
ThatHiddenCharacter - Yesterday at 9:55 PM
Good point
First of all, Brainy, don't get all fussy. This is what happens when you play risky, and you should have known that shit would happen, especially after twg100.
Now to quickly recap the actual events. Firstly, here are the list of seer results:
Thread:
Olimar seer'd Brainy blue.
Toby seer'd mikey blue.
Dudeman seer'd Maelstrom blue.
Trasdegi seer'd mikey blue.
Discord Server:
THC seer'd Brainy red.
Davy seer'd Toby blue.
posts:
[10:13 AM] TyrantNeptune "davy": Blue result on toby.
[10:23 PM] ThatHiddenCephalopod: I seered Brainy red
Someone please post if I am missing someone's seer result.
Later, Maelstrom claimed The Ghost of Andy Warhol:
[11:30 AM] Maelstrom: I'm andy
which conflicted with Bainy's previous claim of the same role. At this point Toby proposed this plan which I agreed with:
[12:06 PM] Toby: we can have like 3 people vote brainy (including mael), and 2 vote mael (including brainy), if brainy is telling the truth then mael will actually have 4 votes on him and he'll be lynched, if mael is telling the truth then brainy will die
It was after this that Brainy claimed not Andy, and then claimed to be Human. This is obvious bad playing, but what people aren't seeing (or talking about) is that Brainy is our only seer result with multiple conflicting colors. Sure, you can add that to the list of things that also could make him suspicious, but what this really allows us to do is find out which of those seer results was correct and which was not, i.e. we can confirm the addict (most likely) or a wolf.
I think voting Brainy right now would cause an insta, so I will probably hold off voting for this phase (unless someone else would be so kind to remove their vote on Brainy for the time being).
Right. We don't need to insta him, he's just the most logical choice right now.
I'm not fussy. I'm just sorta glad my death will help the humans
Shoulda posted this sooner, but haven't been on comp.
Group Log between Mikey, Mael, Dudeman, and me
[3:06 PM] NocturneOfShadow: Viola
[3:06 PM] NocturneOfShadow: Yeah, I know, it's a small violin. It's just what people say.
[3:06 PM] Dudeman: ...it's a large violin
[3:06 PM] NocturneOfShadow: I'm quoting
[3:07 PM] ThatHiddenCharacter: Quoting what?
[3:07 PM] NocturneOfShadow: Doofenshmirtz
[3:07 PM] ThatHiddenCharacter: That redeems you
[3:07 PM] Dudeman: Gentlemen, you're probably wondering why I have gathered you here today.
[3:07 PM] NocturneOfShadow: Anyway, maelstrom
[3:07 PM] NocturneOfShadow: Can you explain why you're clear hwre
[3:09 PM] NocturneOfShadow: ...okay I'll explain
[3:09 PM] NocturneOfShadow: I was backing up my logs to mael and immediately claimed not third party to him
[3:10 PM] NocturneOfShadow: If he was partners with brainy brainy wouldn't have claimed wolf to me
[3:10 PM] Maelstrom: Btw I'm in lab
[3:10 PM] NocturneOfShadow: So let's figure out seering targets, I told mael to seer dudeman and I would seer thc
[3:11 PM] ThatHiddenCharacter: Oh, I was seering Dudeman, should I change it?
[3:11 PM] NocturneOfShadow: We can figure out paintings if we all seer one another
[3:11 PM] NocturneOfShadow: Or we can seer olimar Toby Davy and trasdegi
[3:11 PM] NocturneOfShadow: And clear anyone who isn't blue
[3:12 PM] NocturneOfShadow: (More or less)
[3:12 PM] Dudeman: I was already seering davy
[3:12 PM] ThatHiddenCharacter: Who should I seer then?
[3:12 PM] ThatHiddenCharacter: Tras?
[3:13 PM] Dudeman: seer yourself
[3:13 PM] ThatHiddenCharacter: That was my plan before the plan to seer below us
[3:13 PM] ThatHiddenCharacter: And now that plan is a bust as well
[3:14 PM] NocturneOfShadow: This plan works better anyway tbh
[3:14 PM] Dudeman: Well, if Noc is seering THC and Mael is seering me
[3:14 PM] Dudeman: Perhaps we should keep it within this group of four
[3:14 PM] ThatHiddenCharacter: Alright, I'll seer Noc
[3:14 PM] Dudeman: Though what exactly does that accomplish? Figuring out who got painted?
[3:14 PM] NocturneOfShadow: Yeah
[3:14 PM] Dudeman: Okay
[3:14 PM] NocturneOfShadow: It also helps me keep my cover with brainy
[3:15 PM] NocturneOfShadow: Since I'm supposed to be painting you and thc
[3:15 PM] ThatHiddenCharacter: Brainy thinks Dudeman and I are being painted by Noc, so we're probably safe
[3:15 PM] ThatHiddenCharacter: Oh ninja'd
[3:15 PM] Dudeman: So then I seer Mael
[3:16 PM] NocturneOfShadow: Actually it'll suddenly look super suspicious if we seer each other
[3:16 PM] NocturneOfShadow: To brainy
[3:16 PM] NocturneOfShadow: I'll lose cover either way
[3:16 PM] Dudeman: Do we have to publicly say that we all seer'd each other?
[3:16 PM] NocturneOfShadow: If you don't you'll gain suspicion
[3:17 PM] NocturneOfShadow: From town
[3:17 PM] Dudeman: Well I'm not saying we don't post a seering result
[3:17 PM] ThatHiddenCharacter: Well, if four people don't claim, at least one has to be human
[3:17 PM] NocturneOfShadow: Man if only the actual Andy Warhol was in here
[3:17 PM] ThatHiddenCharacter: So it wouldn't be as suspicious if we all did it
[3:17 PM] Dudeman: But if this little four-way seering deal is to help us figure out who's being painted, might help if at least one person posts a dummy result
[3:17 PM] Dudeman: Publicly
[3:17 PM] NocturneOfShadow: Then we could blow the wolves apart
[3:17 PM] NocturneOfShadow: Then we could blow the wolves apart
[3:17 PM] Dudeman: Although that is risky and not an inherently good idea
[3:18 PM] Dudeman: is that your mantra
[3:18 PM] NocturneOfShadow: No, lag
[3:18 PM] ThatHiddenCharacter: I'm willing to sacrifice myself
[3:18 PM] ThatHiddenCharacter: By posting a false seering
[3:18 PM] NocturneOfShadow: Actually we know brainy will be paiinted blue
[3:19 PM] Dudeman: Hey, that's true
[3:19 PM] ThatHiddenCharacter: So I could say that. Wouldn't bring suspicion from him.
[3:19 PM] NocturneOfShadow: None at all
[3:19 PM] NocturneOfShadow: Also someone like Toby is likely to drop a seering right at phase change
[3:19 PM] NocturneOfShadow: So you can double up as well
[3:20 PM] NocturneOfShadow: Seering within us four should be fine
[3:20 PM] ThatHiddenCharacter: I already sent in for Noc
[3:20 PM] Dudeman: I'll go change mine to Mael
[3:20 PM] NocturneOfShadow: Aight
[3:20 PM] NocturneOfShadow: We doin it boiiz
[3:21 PM] NocturneOfShadow: I'm a wolf and I faked the log with brainy to gain trust
[3:22 PM] Dudeman: o shti
[3:22 PM] Dudeman: we been boombazzled
[3:22 PM] Maelstrom: Lol
[3:22 PM] ThatHiddenCharacter: Isn't this just a fustercluck
[3:22 PM] Dudeman: Language!
[3:23 PM] ThatHiddenCharacter: I am strongly resisting the urge to bring Cap into this.
[3:23 PM] NocturneOfShadow: Honestly Toby was being kind of ridiculous with that though
[3:23 PM] Dudeman: The whole "looks like we're all in agreement" thing?
[3:23 PM] Dudeman: when discord indicated exactly the opposite
[3:23 PM] NocturneOfShadow: No, the accusation that I faked the 1v1
[3:24 PM] Dudeman: oh
[3:24 PM] Dudeman: ...the thing with you and THC beginning of night 1
[3:24 PM] Dudeman: ?
[3:24 PM] NocturneOfShadow: Yeah
[3:24 PM] Dudeman: The thing that wasn't actually a thing?
[3:24 PM] Dudeman: if that was faked, it was a very self-aware fake
[3:24 PM] ThatHiddenCharacter: Hey, I grew as player with that ordeal
[3:24 PM] ThatHiddenCharacter: It was a thing
[3:24 PM] NocturneOfShadow: Lol
[3:25 PM] Dudeman: It was an exercise in self-analysis, but I don't see what Noc gets from it
[3:25 PM] Dudeman: But that's normal
[3:25 PM] NocturneOfShadow: A town read on thc
[3:25 PM] NocturneOfShadow: Highly valuable
[3:25 PM] Dudeman: Well yeah
[3:25 PM] Dudeman: I don't see why
[3:25 PM] Dudeman: But w/e
[3:25 PM] ThatHiddenCharacter: I'm still here, man
[3:25 PM] ThatHiddenCharacter: Ouch
[3:25 PM] Dudeman: I'm not saying you're a wolf THC :stuck_out_tongue:
[3:26 PM] NocturneOfShadow: Yeah in the end it was pointless lol
[3:26 PM] ThatHiddenCharacter: Not what I meant
[3:26 PM] Dudeman: Just that Noc town reads people for reasons that I don't understand
[3:26 PM] NocturneOfShadow: Since thc is here
[3:26 PM] ThatHiddenCharacter: Hiya
[3:26 PM] NocturneOfShadow: I kind of explained my entire thought process for breaking down posts in that
[3:27 PM] ThatHiddenCharacter: Wait, what if Tras is third party, becomes active, reads the stuff about claiming, and then claims?
[3:27 PM] NocturneOfShadow: Then I lose my cover and we lynch brainy
[3:27 PM] Dudeman: Does that even make sense?
[3:27 PM] NocturneOfShadow: A little bit
[3:27 PM] NocturneOfShadow: Tras hasn't been active at all
[3:28 PM] NocturneOfShadow: He could be third party
[3:28 PM] ThatHiddenCharacter: Gotta be prepared for any scenario
[3:30 PM] ThatHiddenCharacter: Shouldn't BDS be in this group chat so we don't have to bother sending him the logs?
[3:30 PM] NocturneOfShadow: Not friends with him yet
[3:31 PM] NocturneOfShadow: But I sent it
[3:31 PM] ThatHiddenCharacter: Yeah, but anyone in the chat can add
[3:31 PM] ThatHiddenCharacter: So if anyone here is friends with him
[3:31 PM] ThatHiddenCharacter: They can add
[3:31 PM] ThatHiddenCharacter: What bout you Dud?
Dudeman added Golden Silver to the group.Last Thursday at 3:32 PM
[3:32 PM] Dudeman: Donezo
[3:32 PM] ThatHiddenCharacter: Wop woop
[3:41 PM] ThatHiddenCharacter: What should we say to Davy in the Discord chat?
[3:43 PM] NocturneOfShadow: Good luck getting olimar to agrwe
[4:19 PM] NocturneOfShadow: Talking to brainy
[4:19 PM] NocturneOfShadow: Told him to consider killing mael since I claimed to him
[4:20 PM] NocturneOfShadow: This way if mael or me dies it confirms brainy as a wolf
[4:20 PM] ThatHiddenCharacter: Smart
[4:20 PM] NocturneOfShadow: His previous wolfing target was Toby apparently
[4:20 PM] NocturneOfShadow: Not sure if we can believe that 100%
[4:20 PM] NocturneOfShadow: Since it could be an attempt to failsafe his partner
[4:21 PM] Dudeman: Come again?
[4:21 PM] NocturneOfShadow: Oh uh
[4:21 PM] NocturneOfShadow: So like brainy won't tell me who his partner is
[4:21 PM] NocturneOfShadow: If his partner is Toby they could tell me they were going to wolf toby
[4:21 PM] Dudeman: Ah, I see now
[4:22 PM] NocturneOfShadow: So that if I end up flipping sides I accidentally town read toby
[4:22 PM] NocturneOfShadow: It's unlikely but it's not as strong of a claim as you two
[4:22 PM] NocturneOfShadow: Since you two are both getting painted
[4:25 PM] NocturneOfShadow: So Noc, how long are you gonna keep pretending to be me friendo
[4:25 PM] NocturneOfShadow: -Brainy
[4:25 PM] NocturneOfShadow: Aw dang it
[4:26 PM] ThatHiddenCharacter: I suspected
[4:26 PM] Dudeman: Wait what?
[4:26 PM] ThatHiddenCharacter: Brainy's claiming third party
[4:27 PM] NocturneOfShadow: Yep
[4:27 PM] Dudeman: ohhh I read that as "pretending to be my friendo"
[4:28 PM] Dudeman: Does that claim make sense after the things he's said?
[4:28 PM] Dudeman: And especially after deleting the messages about him being a wolf.
[4:28 PM] ThatHiddenCharacter: If he thought Noc was a wolf
[4:28 PM] ThatHiddenCharacter: Then he'd play along
[4:30 PM] NocturneOfShadow: If brainy really is third party this group is no longer clear unfortunately
[4:30 PM] ThatHiddenCharacter: Aw man
[4:30 PM] Dudeman: Well let's see
[4:30 PM] Dudeman: If Brainy's Andy, he asks you (thinking you're a wolf) to paint me and THC
[4:31 PM] Dudeman: Perhaps intending to do that himself but playing along with the claim since it's still an alliance either way
[4:31 PM] Dudeman: I might have to reread your log with him and see if his responses make sense as Andy Warhol
[4:31 PM] Dudeman: or somebody else can rn
[4:31 PM] Dudeman: I'm busy
[4:32 PM] ThatHiddenCharacter: I don't have the log
[4:32 PM] NocturneOfShadow: Only maelstrom has the unedited log
[4:33 PM] Dudeman: Only link can defeat ganon
[4:33 PM] ThatHiddenCharacter: Only meta knight can be the strongest in the galaxy
[4:33 PM] Dudeman: Only you can prevent wildfires
[4:34 PM] NocturneOfShadow: I don't think he's telling the truth, but just to be safe this chat is not mechanically clear
[4:37 PM] NocturneOfShadow: Sorry guys it was fun
[4:38 PM] Dudeman: aw man
[4:38 PM] NocturneOfShadow: For the record now that you aren't mechanically clear dudeman is most likely to be a wolf out of you three
[4:38 PM] Dudeman: did you drop the ruse
[4:38 PM] NocturneOfShadow: Ciao
[4:38 PM] Dudeman: D:
[4:39 PM] Maelstrom: wait what
[4:39 PM] Maelstrom: what did I miss
[4:39 PM] NocturneOfShadow: Brainy is Andy apparently
[4:40 PM] Maelstrom: what
[4:40 PM] NocturneOfShadow: Yep
[4:40 PM] Maelstrom: but
[4:40 PM] Maelstrom: why
[4:41 PM] Maelstrom: what arguement could be put forth
[4:41 PM] Maelstrom: that would make him claim to you as a wolf when he's the 3rd party
[4:41 PM] Maelstrom: and you claimed to him as the 3rd party
[4:41 PM] Dudeman: I've got the same question
[4:41 PM] NocturneOfShadow: He was hoping I was a wolf
[4:41 PM] Dudeman: Okay, why as a wolf would you be going around claiming third party
[4:41 PM] Maelstrom: why would a wolf claim then
[4:41 PM] Maelstrom: like wtf
[4:42 PM] Maelstrom: wolves know each other
[4:42 PM] NocturneOfShadow: Since claiming Andy to random people as a wolf is actually pretty good strategy
[4:42 PM] Dudeman: ...then again, Brainy's a hasty enough player to do something like that
[4:42 PM] Maelstrom: my question is
[4:42 PM] NocturneOfShadow: Here's the thing though
[4:42 PM] NocturneOfShadow: If he's not andy
[4:42 PM] Maelstrom: Why claim a wolf to someone you think is a wolf?
[4:42 PM] NocturneOfShadow: We still have him trapped
[4:42 PM] Maelstrom: They'd know you aren't one????
[4:43 PM] NocturneOfShadow: I can tell him to publicly claim Andy warhol
[4:43 PM] NocturneOfShadow: And if there are no counterclaims it's legit
[4:43 PM] Maelstrom: ........
[4:43 PM] Dudeman: Wait yeah, Maelstrom has a point
[4:43 PM] Maelstrom: idk man something feels off
[4:43 PM] Dudeman: Wolves know each other, so
[4:44 PM] Dudeman: If you think one guy's a wolf pretending to be Andy why do you say you're a wolf
[4:44 PM] Dudeman: Why is the person claiming to be Andy claiming to you
[4:44 PM] NocturneOfShadow: To figure out if they're a wolf
[4:45 PM] NocturneOfShadow: So this is no longer a clear humans chat, but have you guys played night in the woods
[4:45 PM] ThatHiddenCharacter: No, but Jacksepticeye says he loves it.
[4:46 PM] Maelstrom: u should play umineko(edited)
[4:47 PM] NocturneOfShadow: The good news is if I die there's still one human in this group
[4:47 PM] NocturneOfShadow: So nobody can pull anything fancy
[4:48 PM] NocturneOfShadow: As of right now we no longer synchronize seering targets
[4:48 PM] NocturneOfShadow: Too risky
[4:50 PM] ThatHiddenCharacter: How is anyone here a confirmed human?
[4:50 PM] Dudeman: because noc says so
[4:50 PM] NocturneOfShadow: There are only two wolves
[4:50 PM] ThatHiddenCharacter: Oh, yeah
[4:50 PM] NocturneOfShadow: At least one of you three is human
[4:51 PM] ThatHiddenCharacter: Dudemael, Wolf Partners 2018
[4:51 PM] NocturneOfShadow: Yeah lol
[4:52 PM] Maelstrom: what if
[4:52 PM] ThatHiddenCharacter: As of right now, I have no reason to suspect any of you, though, so I won't assume you're wolf or human until I can get more info
[4:52 PM] Maelstrom: all of us are andy and the wolves and noc is the only human
[4:52 PM] NocturneOfShadow: Tough gane
[4:52 PM] Dudeman: Hey, I think Mael's on to something here
[4:52 PM] NocturneOfShadow: But I have a chance
[4:52 PM] Dudeman: Let's all seer BDS tonight
[4:53 PM] NocturneOfShadow: Thc, I think dudeman Toby is t/w
[4:53 PM] ThatHiddenCharacter: In seriousness, I think one of us should definitely seer Brainy. If he's Andy, he'll come out orange cause I doubt he'll be painted
[4:54 PM] NocturneOfShadow: Yep good call
[4:54 PM] NocturneOfShadow: I'll leave that to you thc
[4:54 PM] ThatHiddenCharacter: I'll do it
[4:54 PM] ThatHiddenCharacter: Alright
Dudeman why haven't you spoke about this before
TWG CIII: Seerious MoonlightSpoiler
The year is 200_. Famed musician David Bowie is reminiscing about the Serious Moonlight Tour, which, while not as good as the Isolar II Tour, was still a pretty good tour. Meanwhile, a group of obsessive superfans are plotting to kidnap David Bowie and... well, they don't actually know what they'll do once they have him.
Wolves:
1. David Bowie: Famous musician who is unknowingly at the center of a kidnapping plot. Each night, he may paint one player of his choosing either blue, red, or orange, and seer another player of his choosing.
2. Duncan Jones: Director of Moon and son of David Bowie. While the superfans aren't looking for him particularly, he's still an obstacle to their mission. Can seer one player of his choosing each night.
Humans:
3. David Bowie Fan: Each night, they can choose to seer one player.
4. David Bowie Fan
5. David Bowie Fan
6. David Bowie Fan
7. Newbie: While they're still an obsessive fan of David Bowie, they don't own a copy of Santa Monica '72, so they're looked down upon by the other fans. Is told they're a David Bowie Fan.
8. Addict: Takes inspiration from David Bowie a bit too seriously. When they seer a player, they get a random color result. Is told they're a normal David Bowie Fan.
Third Party:
9. The Ghost of Andy Warhol: Can paint up to three players each night either blue, red, or orange. If they forgo one painting, they get an extra lynching vote. If they forgo another one, they get another vote. If they do not paint anyone, then they are immune to the wolfing for that night. Wins, non-overriding, when all players alive at the end of the game have been painted at least once. Can win when dead.
Cardflips show apparent color.
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Players
1. BrainyLucario2. Maelstrom
3. ThatHiddenCharacter
4. Dudeman
5. Trasdegi
6. Mikey7. Davy
8. Toby
9. Olimar12345
Sub
1. Blueflower
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Brainy got used as a kidnapping demonstration! They went a little too hard on him. He was Blue!It is now Night 2. Night 2 ends in one day, on Sunday, April 8 at 6:00 PM Pacific Time (9:00 PM Eastern Time).
Okay, for those of you not checking the discord chat, here's the plan:
I'll send everyone the name of a player to seer, both via Discord DM and NSM PM. Nobody share who I told you to seer until Day 2. I'll secretly pair you up with another player so that all seer targets get two hits. The players I'll use for targets will be me, Toby, and Maelstrom, since these are the three targets Mael (Who claims Andy) claims he painted last night. If Mael's claim is true then the colors should be different, since Andy wouldn't want to paint the same players more than once.
If I'm wolfd, share the Discord log between us containing the messages telling you who to seer. I'll contain a secret message containing something that cannot be faked.
TWG CIII: Seerious MoonlightSpoiler
The year is 200_. Famed musician David Bowie is reminiscing about the Serious Moonlight Tour, which, while not as good as the Isolar II Tour, was still a pretty good tour. Meanwhile, a group of obsessive superfans are plotting to kidnap David Bowie and... well, they don't actually know what they'll do once they have him.
Wolves:
1. David Bowie: Famous musician who is unknowingly at the center of a kidnapping plot. Each night, he may paint one player of his choosing either blue, red, or orange, and seer another player of his choosing.
2. Duncan Jones: Director of Moon and son of David Bowie. While the superfans aren't looking for him particularly, he's still an obstacle to their mission. Can seer one player of his choosing each night.
Humans:
3. David Bowie Fan: Each night, they can choose to seer one player.
4. David Bowie Fan
5. David Bowie Fan
6. David Bowie Fan
7. Newbie: While they're still an obsessive fan of David Bowie, they don't own a copy of Santa Monica '72, so they're looked down upon by the other fans. Is told they're a David Bowie Fan.
8. Addict: Takes inspiration from David Bowie a bit too seriously. When they seer a player, they get a random color result. Is told they're a normal David Bowie Fan.
Third Party:
9. The Ghost of Andy Warhol: Can paint up to three players each night either blue, red, or orange. If they forgo one painting, they get an extra lynching vote. If they forgo another one, they get another vote. If they do not paint anyone, then they are immune to the wolfing for that night. Wins, non-overriding, when all players alive at the end of the game have been painted at least once. Can win when dead.
Cardflips show apparent color.
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Players
1. BrainyLucario2. Maelstrom3. ThatHiddenCharacter
4. Dudeman
5. Trasdegi
6. Mikey7. Davy
8. Toby
9. Olimar12345
Sub
1. Blueflower
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Nobody really knows how Maelstrom died. He was Orange!It is now Day 2. Day 2 ends in two days, on Tuesday, April 10 at 6:00 PM Pacific Time (9:00 PM Eastern Time).
LOLOLOLOL
NOBODY POST YOUR SEER RESULTS IN THE THREAD. PM THEM TO ME.
dudeman see discord
Dudeman I've been coasting this whole game and I really can't find the heart to figure the game out at this point
GAME OVER. HUMANS WIN. The Ghost of Andy Warhol also wins!