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Title: [GCN] Tales of Symphonia - "Lloyd" (Replacement) by Zeila
Post by: Zeta on July 21, 2023, 11:48:49 AM
Submission Information:

Series: Tales
Game: Tales of Symphonia
Console: Nintendo GameCube
Title: Lloyd
Instrumentation Solo Piano
Arranger: Zeila (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=4766)


Replacement Information:

Links to Existing Sheet: MUS (http://www.ninsheetmusic.org/download/mus/53) | MIDI (http://www.ninsheetmusic.org/download/mid/53) | PDF (http://www.ninsheetmusic.org/download/pdf/53)
Replacement Type: Challenge (new arranger)

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Title: Re: [GCN] Tales of Symphonia - "Lloyd's Theme" (Replacement) by Zeila
Post by: Zeila on July 21, 2023, 11:51:25 AM
- The title should be changed to just "Lloyd" as per multiple soundtrack releases (2003 (https://vgmdb.net/album/35) | 2023 (https://open.spotify.com/album/3Ww0UclZziAyyPLE5SBrcB)). Based off of the notes in the 2003 version, Motoi Sakuraba did the character themes
- m. 15 I opted to just use octaves because I thought it would be a bit awkward to hear the A a bit earlier on beat 4. I feel like the original doesn't translate as well to piano
Title: Re: [GCN] Tales of Symphonia - "Lloyd's Theme" (Replacement) by Zeila
Post by: Bloop on August 15, 2023, 03:29:48 AM
-m1: I don't think it's impossible to add the C# on beat 1.5, but maybe if you kept out the A instead of the C# it'd be a bit easier to play
-m23: Maybe you could add a note on beat 4.5 (probably the D)? I see you left out the low strings rhythm for the horns here, but it might work as a little transition point back to m1.

I don't really have anything else to mention here, nice job! I changed the title for you too!
Title: Re: [GCN] Tales of Symphonia - "Lloyd" (Replacement) by Zeila
Post by: Zeila on August 18, 2023, 04:29:03 PM
Yeah I guess I was being a bit conservative with the exclusion of the C#. It also wasn't very consistent with the last measure, so I just added the C# in measures 1/9 without removing the A. Adding a D on beat 4.5 of the last measure was a good suggestion too, thanks! The files should be updated, and thanks for fixing the name as well :3
Title: Re: [GCN] Tales of Symphonia - "Lloyd" (Replacement) by Zeila
Post by: Bloop on August 19, 2023, 04:37:30 AM
Awesome, I'll approve!
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/895351643024015360/906174785795522560/BloopActuallyApproves.png
Title: Re: [GCN] Tales of Symphonia - "Lloyd" (Replacement) by Zeila
Post by: Latios212 on September 03, 2023, 02:03:58 PM
Looking good, just a few small things to comment on!
- The high A in the bass on beat 1 of m. 7 and 15 feels a bit out of place. Thoughts about lowering it an octave (and adjusting the offbeat chords accordingly, similar to m. 1)?
- Have you considered writing in the lower layer E (perhaps as an overlapping hollow notehead) in m. 10 beat 3? It's odd to visually see the lower layer drop out here but nowhere else.
- m. 15 last two beats should be flipped downwards since there's nothing under it
- I'm hearing this at the end:
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/401094846107877377/1148000156495650906/image.png?width=487&height=188
I'm not sure if anything is playing distinctly on beat 2.25 at all, but beat 2 definitely sounds like a C to me.

Also, I actually think it's nicer without the final D in the left hand at the end, but no issues if you'd prefer to keep it.
Title: Re: [GCN] Tales of Symphonia - "Lloyd" (Replacement) by Zeila
Post by: Zeila on September 17, 2023, 04:44:39 PM
Quote from: Latios212 on September 03, 2023, 02:03:58 PMLooking good, just a few small things to comment on!
- The high A in the bass on beat 1 of m. 7 and 15 feels a bit out of place. Thoughts about lowering it an octave (and adjusting the offbeat chords accordingly, similar to m. 1)?
Thanks for the suggestion! I changed those portions to be just like the first chord group of measure 1

Quote from: Latios212 on September 03, 2023, 02:03:58 PM- Have you considered writing in the lower layer E (perhaps as an overlapping hollow notehead) in m. 10 beat 3? It's odd to visually see the lower layer drop out here but nowhere else.
Sure

Quote from: Latios212 on September 03, 2023, 02:03:58 PM- m. 15 last two beats should be flipped downwards since there's nothing under it
Good catch, I flipped the upper tie as well

Quote from: Latios212 on September 03, 2023, 02:03:58 PM- I'm hearing this at the end:
[snip~]
I'm not sure if anything is playing distinctly on beat 2.25 at all, but beat 2 definitely sounds like a C to me.
I changed beat 2 to an eighth note C since I don't really hear anything from the flute voice on beat 2.25 anymore. I also put a staccato on the notehead side rather than stem side

Quote from: Latios212 on September 03, 2023, 02:03:58 PMAlso, I actually think it's nicer without the final D in the left hand at the end, but no issues if you'd prefer to keep it.
I think I'll just leave it in at this point

Thanks for the feedback! Hopefully that's everything
Title: Re: [GCN] Tales of Symphonia - "Lloyd" (Replacement) by Zeila
Post by: Latios212 on September 17, 2023, 04:51:00 PM
All looks good to me, let's get this replacement in! Thanks for doing it :D

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401094846107877377/1093726541533413376/image.png
Title: Re: [GCN] Tales of Symphonia - "Lloyd" (Replacement) by Zeila
Post by: Zeta on September 17, 2023, 04:51:08 PM
This submission has been accepted by Latios212 (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=4344).

~Zeta, your friendly NSM-Bot