Submission Information:
Series: Other
Game: DuckTales
Console: Nintendo Entertainment System
Title: Himalayas
Instrumentation Solo Piano
Arranger: Fullmetalgrudo (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=8502)
Replacement Information:
Links to Existing Sheet: MUS (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/download/mus/1798) | MIDI (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/download/mid/1798) | PDF (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/download/pdf/1798)
Replacement Type: Challenge (new arranger)
Hello, and welcome to NinSheetMusic! When submitting a sheet, it's helpful to provide a link to what you arranged, like so:
It seems like you based your arrangement off the existing one, for which youll need permission to replace from the original arranger.
Do you think you could either:
1) get that permission (might not be possible)
2) make an arrangement on your own?
Sorry for any previous confusion, would be great to get this sheet up to scratch!
As for some more general advice:
- Double-check all the rhythms in your sheet with this guide (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/index.php?topic=10492), to make sure they are written correctly
- Same goes for accidentals, for which this guide (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/index.php?topic=10495) might help
If you have any questions or would appreciate more detailed feedback, let me know!
Quote from: XiaoMigros on September 18, 2023, 12:39:57 PMHello, and welcome to NinSheetMusic! When submitting a sheet, it's helpful to provide a link to what you arranged
Sorry, I just used the NSM panel, as explained in the submission guide... I had to create a post in this topic?
Quote from: XiaoMigros on September 18, 2023, 02:33:08 PMAs for some more general advice:
- Double-check all the rhythms in your sheet with this guide (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/index.php?topic=10492), to make sure they are written correctly
- Same goes for accidentals, for which this guide (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/index.php?topic=10495) might help
If you have any questions or would appreciate more detailed feedback, let me know!
Thanks but I think I'm ok. Please let me know if there is any issue with my sheet :)
Quote from: Fullmetalgrudo on September 19, 2023, 08:55:17 AMSorry, I just used the NSM panel, as explained in the submission guide... I had to create a post in this topic?
No problem! The submission guide is only an instruction on how to navigate the submission interface,
not about anything else that's required. Now you'll know for next time!
Quote from: Fullmetalgrudo on September 19, 2023, 08:55:17 AMThanks but I think I'm ok. Please let me know if there is any issue with my sheet :)
The reason I ask is because there are numerous issues of this sort that should be fixed :) Could you please read through the guides and check your sheet?
Just red it. Nothing to check since I already knew everything that was explained there :)
Please do check the sheet (at least the rhythms). As I said, some of the stuff mentioned in the guides applies here
For (dotted eighth)-(dotted eighth)-(eigth) rhythms, the middle note should be split into a 16th note and 8th note, to show the middle beat
Okay it's done! Thanks for your help :)
So what was different about this sub when you submitted it? I am comparing back and forth between Thomas Wilson's original and your sheet and beyond the things Xiao already had you correct, I'm not seeing what you've done differently. Making a challenge arrangement is different from making edits.
Beyond that, the accidentals need another look over. There are a number of items that are still wrong (m2 for example the grace note An on beat 1.5 works better as a Gx, G double sharp, as well as beat 2), but I am still struggling to identify if this has any merit being called a "replacement" beyond the adding of some grace notes and some additional notes here and there.
There are genuine aspects of the original sheet that make it worthy of replacement such as where the repeat falls, and a few other rhythms throughout that are missing notes. Not sure what your level of experience is, but this is a tough key to work with as well, so I would suggest if this sounds like a lot of work to redo going with a simpler song to start.
There are also guides on this forum on making MuseScore sheets look more like the current NinSheet files. https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/index.php?topic=11860.msg425277#new
Hello,
I just wanted the sheet music to be closer than the original piece and still playable off course. I cannot submit this kind of proposition? It's my first submission, so I'm sorry if I'm not quite aware of all the rules!
So here are the differences between my version and Thomas Wilson's one:
- Measure 1, beat 3.5 : The G is a F sharp
- Measure 3, beat 2.25 : The G sharp is a G or, as written, a F double sharp since there is a chromatic mouvement from F sharp to G sharp
- Measure 3, beat 3.5 and 4.25 : There are notes that double the melody above it
- Measure 5, beat 3 : The A sharp is hold
- Measure 6, beat 2 : The rhythm on the left hand was wrong compared to the original
- Measure 6, beat 4 : The A sharp is a A natural
- Measure 7, beat 3 : Once again, the A sharp is hold
- Measure 8, beat 4.25 : The low A is natural (blue note)
- Measure 13 : On the left hand, the D's and A's are natural (bVI and bVII degrees)
- Measure 15, beat 2 : The rhythm is ternary (swing)
- Measure 17, beat 3 : Idem
+ several appoggiaturas added and shorter articulations (staccatos, quavers).
And once again, despite I've red Thomas Wilson's sheet, I started over by using the .nsf files and FamiTracker to read it. So it's my work. But, yes, it's close to the previous one!
About measure 2, I agree on beat 1.5 but to me, on beat 2, since the melody goes down, the A natural is just fine here. By the way, following the same logic, I should change several appoggiaturas... I made them simpler to read although they aren't written the "normal" way...
About the repeat, I know it's wierd but since measures 18 and 2 are different, what do you suggest?
I moved the repeat from the end to the beginning of the piece, in a box 2 bar:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/539251373787709441/1160889781681659965/image.png?ex=65364ddc&is=6523d8dc&hm=5c6eef870c608e17ffca542d80860fe7b927cfb487cee446c2a575651f07ddc8&
Does it seem right to you guys?
PS: accidentals corrected
:-*Oh no, sorry for the confusion I may have caused but this is not what I had in mind. I think the best approach might actually be to leave the repeats as they were (I'll admit I didn't quite realize beat 1 is silent or to have the repeat start at m2, but add a note like this indicating that the beat 1 notes should be first time through only
(https://i.imgur.com/llCyM6T.png)
For clarity's sake I'm going to refer to measure numbers as they are in the current submitted files, not the screenshot
There is also a nifty formatting guide for MuseScore to Finale files, it will help make this look a bit more like other sheets on site (fonts for titels are currently different, and the page numbers, measure numbers and second page header is missing) visually https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/index.php?topic=11860.msg425277#new
I do appreciate you indicated also the different aspects of this arrangement from the one you are replacing. However there is still some work to be done
•One thing you will want to be consistent about is when you have staccatos in one hand but both notes are playing the same rhythm, is to have staccatos in both hands. This would apply to current m3 and m4
• m1 it sounds like the first grace notes on the first notes are not actually grace notes, but are 16th notes on beat 1.25. Listen a little closer, there's a slight difference in note length between these notes and the other grace notes and how they fall on the beats.
•It is a fairly common visual practice to include a slur on grace notes. We do suggest including that for every grace note as a result.
Thanks for your answer :)
Okay then I'll probably change the repeat and I'll change some aspects to make it look more like the other sheets on the site (including slurs).
However, about staccatos, if I understand, you think that both hands should have staccatos if one have it and both hands play the same rhythm? But the way I see it is that the two hands play two independant voices...
About the grace notes in measure 1, in the original, according to the .nsf file, they actually fall on beat 1.5 and are about the lenght of 32th notes. The other ones are the same lenght and fall the same way. But I decided to write them as ornaments to make it simpler to read and to play.
I've changed the repeat and I added slurs. So that is my finale version :
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/539251373787709441/1165432573292458044/image.png?ex=6546d4aa&is=65345faa&hm=bc8e97edc13dad77ccbb0516d0c906263735dc3d2013d4d44eb284b86d539f2c&
I can send you the MuseScore file if you want to modify things for consistency's sake but I won't go any further in the procedure because I find it way too complicated. Sorry. I've tried my best but I'm sick and tired of it...
However, there was some aspects in the writing that needed to be modify (like grouping rhythms and modify some alterations) and I'm glad you helped me with that. Thank you :)
The repeat and added slurs look good in your screenshot.
As for the files, if it's going to be a challenge, I don't mind if you forgo having to update them; I can make the necessary update if you at least link the XML file that you can export from MuseScore, and your MuseScore file.
Let me know if that sounds too tedious, but it worked well in the below submission's case. Feel free to link the files through Dropbox or Google Drive. The reason I ask for those files is while your screenshots are helpful, I do like to be able to hear the playback of how the sheet sounds, and to be able to fully see how the sheet looks in either Finale or MuseScore. At minimum, I would request your latest MuseScore file for each update you make.
https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/index.php?topic=12700.0
Quote from: Kricketune54 on October 21, 2023, 08:28:11 PMThe repeat and added slurs look good in your screenshot.
As for the files, if it's going to be a challenge, I don't mind if you forgo having to update them; I can make the necessary update if you at least link the XML file that you can export from MuseScore, and your MuseScore file.
Let me know if that sounds too tedious, but it worked well in the below submission's case. Feel free to link the files through Dropbox or Google Drive. The reason I ask for those files is while your screenshots are helpful, I do like to be able to hear the playback of how the sheet sounds, and to be able to fully see how the sheet looks in either Finale or MuseScore. At minimum, I would request your latest MuseScore file for each update you make.
https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/index.php?topic=12700.0
It's fine for me! If there is nothing to modify but things like margins, fonts and things like that and nothing related to the music itself, I can send you all the files (xml, mscz, mp3, pdf) with Google Drive. :)
Here it is: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1UIxcKZoVs-gEiqzMxiVz6UK3SA614dXg?usp=share_link
Thank you for you help!
Really sorry for the wait on my reply, typed something up back in October and just realized never posted it.
Following notes are short enough length that they could also have staccatos:
• m1 LH beat 3.0
• m3 LH beat 1 and 1.5
• m4 LH 3.25
• m10 LH all 8th note length notes, I would remove tie between beat 3.75 and 4.0, and make 4.0 an 8th rest. Sounds much shorter.
• m11 once again, all LH 8th note length notes, but I also want to include an image because I disagree with current groupings:
Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/0B3klA6.png)
I'm hearing m14-16 the same way as far as staccatos and rhythm placement, so make the same edits for them as well.
• m12 LH all 8th note length notes, and entire beat 2 should be same length as how m10's beat 2 is. Also, I think the tie between beat 3.75 and beat 4.0 makes the note too long, maybe make beat 4.0 a 16th note, followed by a 16th rest?
• m17 first 2 8th notes sound like they could use staccatos, and beat 2.25 and 3.25 (dotted 8th's) sound short enough to write as 16th notes, followed by 8th rests for rest of the beats.
Additional feedback
• m5 beat 4.0 16th rest should be normal height.
• m6 RH as opposed to writing a staccato dotted 8th (which is not a common way of writing, you could make it a staccato 8th, followed by a 16th rest.
• m8 LH 4.5 should be an En
• m15 and m17 hearing the triplets a little differently (still An in m15 and C# in m17 tho), both this same way (current m15 pictured with what I hear for beat 2 RH). I'm hearing a middle note that goes up an octave and then returns to the original pitch for a 3rd 8th triplet note.
Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/zfucJYY.png)
Thank you for your answer!
Based on your comments and after checking the .nsf file, these are the modifications I've made (they are in blue in the screenshot below):
Staccatos added on LH:
- m1 beat 3.0
- m3 beat 1 and 1.5
- m4 3.25
- m10 all 8th (+ tie removed between beat 3.75 and 4.0) EDIT: maybe I should do it on RH too, I'll have to check that later!
- m11 all 8th (+ tie removed between beat 2.75 and 3.0), and m14 to m16 modified the same way! But I can't group notes on beat 2 (underlined in red in the screenshot)... I let you do it if you don't mind.
- m12 all 8th (+ beat 2 shortened and tie between beat 3.75 and beat 4.0 removed), same thing as m10 actually!
- m17 first two 8th (+ notes on beat 2.25 and 3.25 shortened)
Additionnal feedback:
- You mean in the LH? I've checked, the A# lasts an 8th, so there is a 16th rest next to it!
- m6 RH beat 2, dot and staccato removed (and maybe you can group notes like m11)
- m8 LH beat 4.5, tbh I know there is an En but my guess was that this En was a mistake just forgotten by the composer because it's kind of wierd! ^^' But maybe it's not... Maybe a ♮ bewteen parentheses ?
- m15 and m17, after checking, I'm pretty sure there is no note an octave higher, but the two pulse channels are playing the same thing but out of sync to make this echo feeling like we were in a cave. Maybe it is this effect that make you hear it this way?
After checking the whole LH part, there are other measures that are different than the way I wrote them... But if I write them to sound like they should sound, it's pretty ugly (the ugliest things imo are underlined in red in the screenshot below)... With a lot of 16th rests and 16th notes... Maybe by making groups, it could be better but still...
Work in progress:
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1170406399486992434/1191099736292331662/Capture_decran_2023-12-31_200703.png?ex=661c2d92&is=6609b892&hm=27d660477816d6090ac509573fbe62eff04d68ee276c7ea9b3a508e5848f3250&)
Previous version:
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/539251373787709441/1165432573292458044/image.png?ex=6546d4aa&is=65345faa&hm=bc8e97edc13dad77ccbb0516d0c906263735dc3d2013d4d44eb284b86d539f2c&)
I didn't check the whole RH so far but anyway, I think that maybe some articulations (whether the note should be maintained in time or not) should be left to the pianist for clarity's sake...
From your red highlights though, you can beam together a beat 1.0 8th note to a beat 1.75 16th note, for example. The note beam will just be above 16th rest between the notes. Same goes for a 3.25 note and a 3.75 note, as seen at m13.
This article might be of assistance if you have further questions on beaming, it doesn't quite cover rests but the same principles apply. https://www.musicnotes.com/blog/note-beaming-and-grouping-in-music-theory/
Quote- You mean in the LH? I've checked, the A# lasts an 8th, so there is a 16th rest next to it!
My apologies I have no idea what I was referring to here lol
Quote- m8 LH beat 4.5, tbh I know there is an En but my guess was that this En was a mistake just forgotten by the composer because it's kind of wierd! ^^' But maybe it's not... Maybe a ♮ bewteen parentheses ?
I don't think it is a mistake - it's a good progression note leading into the next chord, F# minor. And no parentheses, as that implies that En was a part of the key signature to begin with.
Quotem15 and m17, after checking, I'm pretty sure there is no note an octave higher, but the two pulse channels are playing the same thing but out of sync to make this echo feeling like we were in a cave. Maybe it is this effect that make you hear it this way?
That certainly could be the case - I'm not one to typically check channels usually, but if that's the effect you are picking up from them, I guess that's the reason it sounds that way to me.
Let me know when your latest file is up or if other clarifications are needed! Especially for those note beams
Bump for arranger, are you still around to work on this? I think from your previous message I was looking to see your updated files
Hi, sorry for letting that work not updated that long! I've just made these beams for every parts underlined in red and I made several modifications for the right hand in order to be more accurate with the original piece:
- m2 beat 4.0 note shortened
- m3 beat 2.75 note extended
- m4 beat 1.5 notes unbeamed
- m4 beat 4.0 note shortened
- m6 beat 2.0 beam made
- m10 beats 1.0, 2.0 and 3.75 notes shortened
- m12 beat 2.25 stacatto added
- m12 beat 3.5 note shortened
- m13 beat 4.5 note shortened
- m16 beat 3.0 stacatto added
- m16 beats 3.75 and 4.25 notes shortened
Ah, and I've put the E natural on LH at the end of the measure 8 (although it's quite unexpected compared to an E sharp).
I've also updated the midi, pdf and mus files. But since I struggle using Finale NotePad, there are some glitches I've didn't managed to change (stacattos on beat 1 measures 5 and 7 and also the sixteenth rest which is too high) and for that reason, the pdf is directly made from Musescore (which is free and way better than Finale NotePad, just saying...).
PS: I've find out how to use the style file to make the sheet look like the NSM standard, I'll make those modifications soon!
Okay I updated the files after I made some adjustements :
- Applied the NSM [MU4] v2.3.A4 style file (and it did some unwanted changes that's why I made the following things)
- Added a system break every 2 measures
- Adjusted the width of the last measure to the value of 2
- Re-added composer and arranger in the right place
- Deleted the "Pia." in front of each system
As usual, the .mus file is not good so the pdf is from Musescore and by the way I had the following message when importing the XML:
"Attribute "type" with value "grace-cue" must have a value from the list "cue grace large "."
Edit: Oh gosh... I see some beams missing on the left hand -_- I should have checked!...
- Added beams on the LH on beat 2 for m14, m15 and m16 (and reuploaded the files ^^")
Sorry for the wait on my response (a bit beyond what I was hoping to take), I don't have too much more to say though from looking over the files. Anything off you are seeing with the file conversion, I can make edits to upon approving this sheet if that's okay with you (would use the MuseScore/MuseScore PDF for visual reference)
• Looks like there's still some LH beaming missing on beat 4 in a few places - m2, m4-6. As well as m13 LH beat 3 the 16th's on 3.5 and 3.75 should beam together.
• In the RH I think you could also beam m3 3.25 to 3.5, m5 1.5 to 2.0, m9 1.5 and 2.5 together, and in m14 RH, 1.5 and 2.5 together, and 3.5 to 4.0.
• A suggestion, but m1 and m6 RH the grace notes are going to be a bit hard to play at speed and then smoothly play the next notes - I would suggest omitting the lower grace note on these beats on playability grounds.
• I'm still hearing RH m15 beat 2 and m17 beat 2 the way I mentioned in my Jan. 17 2024 post - I know it's been a while since this was brought up but we can see what the next updater thinks on this one.
Hi!
I agree for the beaming on LH. I don't though for those on RH.
m3 3.25 to 3.5: I disagree because on 3.5 it's another idea that starts (a new "rythmic cell" I would say).
m5 1.5 to 2.0: You mean on m6? Maybe I could beam those notes but may be confusing since it's on different beats...
m9 1.5 and 2.5 together: You mean on m10 maybe? I don't see anything that is worth beaming imo.
m14 1.5 and 2.5 together: I disagree because I think there is no need to do so... The way they are now shows clearly they are upbeats. Beaming them would just be confusing imo.
m14 3.5 to 4.0: Same thought than m5 (or 6)...
And I'm willing to keep all grace notes ^^'
About m15 and m17, I show you on the nsf file I used (the beats are highlighted in blue):
Measure 15, beats 1 to 3:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-p3cdGsk2qY24ds2CLPb_LI7aZ0rXjya/view?usp=drive_link
Beat 2 and 1/3 is on row 2C and it's the same octave as beat 2 on row 21 (the row numbers are in hexadecimal). You also hear a third note which would be on row 36 but even if I isolate the square channels, I don't hear anything except a continous sound. But I see what could be noted as a stacatto for beat 3 on RH (I add it).
Measure 17 beats 2 to 4:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-p3cdGsk2qY24ds2CLPb_LI7aZ0rXjya/view?usp=drive_link
Beat 3 and 1/3 is on row 4C, and the 3rd 1/3 is on row 56, but same thing here (no octaviation or 3rd note heard).
A little tuto for reading it:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DAlqpZV95Zqc2LepJkFjPJ-ehDjr_8Cg/view?usp=drive_link
Update:
- Staccato added on RH m15 beat 3
- Beaming done for LH m2, 4, 5 and 6 on beat 4 as well as m13 on beat 3.25
Quote from: Fullmetalgrudo on May 05, 2024, 06:04:02 AMm3 3.25 to 3.5: I disagree because on 3.5 it's another idea that starts (a new "rythmic cell" I would say).
That's fine and makes sense after reviewing the sheet again.
Quote from: Fullmetalgrudo on May 05, 2024, 06:04:02 AMm5 1.5 to 2.0: You mean on m6? Maybe I could beam those notes but may be confusing since it's on different beats...
Yeah this was probably supposed to be m6. But I think for reason above for m3 it's good to leave as is.
Quotem9 1.5 and 2.5 together: You mean on m10 maybe? I don't see anything that is worth beaming imo.
m14 1.5 and 2.5 together: I disagree because I think there is no need to do so... The way they are now shows clearly they are upbeats. Beaming them would just be confusing imo.
m14 3.5 to 4.0: Same thought than m5 (or 6)...
Yeah sorry not sure why I miswrote two separate measures in a row. But After reviewing the rest of the sheet's beaming I'll agree that m10 and m14 those 8th notes are fine as is.
Quote from: Fullmetalgrudo on May 05, 2024, 06:04:02 AMAbout m15 and m17, I show you on the nsf file I used (the beats are highlighted in blue):
Measure 15, beats 1 to 3:
Spoiler
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1170406399486992434/1236659662288326656/Ducktales_Himalayas_m15_b1_2_3.jpg?ex=6638d08f&is=66377f0f&hm=c2837af59b151f2587240bef24ba8785583867d56f557c997d7d1935318beaf8&)
Beat 2 and 1/3 is on row 2C and it's the same octave as beat 2 on row 21 (the row numbers are in hexadecimal). You also hear a third note which would be on row 36 but even if I isolate the square channels, I don't hear anything except a continous sound. But I see what could be noted as a stacatto for beat 3 on RH (I add it).
Measure 17 beats 2 to 4:
Spoiler
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1170406399486992434/1236659662821261312/Ducktales_Himalayas_m17_b2_3_4.jpg?ex=6638d08f&is=66377f0f&hm=cf6b71213c886016acc599119fb4669217561349d3bd887a33278fe69455b697&)
Beat 3 and 1/3 is on row 4C, and the 3rd 1/3 is on row 56, but same thing here (no octaviation or 3rd note heard).
A little tuto for reading it:
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1170406399486992434/1236661556113182741/Capture_decran_2024-04-10_144546.png?ex=6638d253&is=663780d3&hm=ccd644de4a876c2bbe00dad2c0256721dc9e65a058a0f3bb72b6ca2aa110328d&)
Your screenshots are not appearing for me. As far as the nsf files/what is there I'd like someone else to give us a check if we can't agree, but I won't let it hold up my
approval. With your permission I will copy your musescore file and reupload Finale source files to this submission so that the next updater can review.
Quote from: Kricketune54 on May 09, 2024, 01:13:17 PMYour screenshots are not appearing for me. As far as the nsf files/what is there I'd like someone else to give us a check if we can't agree, but I won't let it hold up my approval. With your permission I will copy your musescore file and reupload Finale source files to this submission so that the next updater can review.
I changed the screenshots for links instead, maybe it works now?
I send you the Musescore file on Discord!
Thanks!
Files were updated on this sheet by Fullmetalgrudo and are formatted in Finale
This can be up for debate by the updaters, but I think the title should be changed from "Himalayas" to "The Himalayas" instead, since that's how it'd be referred to in reality. It's also how it is titled in the soundtrack for the remake (https://vgmdb.net/album/45310). This could be a bigger discussion for other songs, like "The Amazon" for example, but that can be saved for later date.
I don't mind! I'm ok with both! :)
This is looking pretty good! Just a few tiny things:
-You could rewrite the grace notes in m1 as Fx and B# (similar to the Fx and B# in m3)
-m12: You could write the R.H. D# in beat 3.5 as a staccato 8th note instead of a 16th
-m13: The L.H. E in beat 3.25 should be a staccato 8th (to be consistent with the rest of the sheet)
-m17: The Gn's in beat 3 in the L.H. could be Fx's too
Thanks for your feedback!
I agree for m1 and m13 but I prefer m12 and m17 the way they are. On m12, I like the idea of three 16th, like four with a missing one, where all three notes have the same articulation and with a short rest before beat 4. On m17, I consider the third beat as a C# diminished so Gn is fine in this case and more straightforward to read.
I will do the changes on m1 and m13 soon!
Quote from: Fullmetalgrudo on July 11, 2024, 04:28:16 AMI agree for m1 and m13 but I prefer m12 and m17 the way they are. On m12, I like the idea of three 16th, like four with a missing one, where all three notes have the same articulation and with a short rest before beat 4.
I see your reasoning yeah, but I'm just wondering how it'd differ compared to the other places in the R.H. where you did use a staccato 16th? Because the original is an 8-bit song, it's hard to really discern any articulation between them other than long or short.
Obviously the original 8-bit song doesn't help but when it comes to play it... It's really hard to explain how I feel but for that measure, I don't see any reason why the second D# should be different than the first one on beat 3... Sometimes, using a 8th with a staccato makes it easier to read, like on measure 1 or on measure 2 beat 3 (the rhythm that I call "syncopette" but I don't know the english word, may be the same?). Sometimes it might also depends on the melody, like in measure 8, where the 8th notes with staccatos are parts of the same melodic line (which starts on measure 8 beat 1 and ends on measure 9 beat 1) whereas 16th notes would look more like rhythmic elements making the melody less clear. It may also be about the interpretation, where a 16th followed by a rest is a bit too mechanical whereas a 8th with a staccato on it sounds more lively although it's a bit subjective. But on measure 12, to me any of those reasons apply here and the 16th seems to be the best choice imo.
By the way, we could also use slurs for the phrasing but it's like staccatos, it's not clearly written in the original, it's more about how we hear the music and how we understand it. And that's why it's not that easy to all agree with each other.
I did the modification mentionned above about measure 1 and 13 and *rolldrum* I finally installed java and the xml cleaner program *applauses* ! And I'm taking time to watch closely the imported file on Finale NotePad. Firstable, I still have the following message when importing the .musicxml file:
"Attribute "type" with value "grace-cue" must have a value from the list "cue grace large "."
About what the sheet looks like, good news is that measure numbers are there, mini-title and page number are there on page 2, copyright is just on the first page as it's supposed to be, but there are several things that change from the original :
1. Title and subtitle are now horizontally centered on the page (whereas they were a bit shifted to the right on Musescore because I think Musescore leave a bigger margin on the left of the page maybe for binding purposes) but I don't know if it's an issue or not. I'm ok with both.
2. Subtitle is too close from the title.
3. Tempo marking is too far from the first staff.
4. The "1x only" is too close from the stem above.
5. There isn't enough space for the grace note on measure 5.
6. Staccatos measure 5 and 7 on beat 1 moved.
7. Some slurs could be adjusted, like on LH on measure 4, but it's not a big deal.
8. Ottavas are too shifted to the right and too long.
And it may be more... :'(
EDIT: found a new one! 9. Parentheses on the notes in measure 2 beat 1 disapeared.
NB: I've just remembered that Kricketune54 had made some formatting on Finale for the last upload fixing the ottavas (and adding a dynamic which I didn't put on Musescore). But since I modified my Musescore file, I should redo those modifications too.
Well... I progress, but now I have to try to fix all of those problems... I leave this post but I'm looking for help on Discord. See you later for more update ^^'
- Fixed issues n° 2, 3 and 4 by adding more space on the Musescore sheet before exporting the XML.
- Fixed issues n° 6, 8 and 9 by using the tools on NotePad (oh and I moved the ottava line a little bit upper).
About the other issues:
1. Title and subtitle are now horizontally centered on the page
5. There isn't enough space for the grace note on measure 5
7. Some slurs could be adjusted, like on LH on measure 4
I just decided these were not really worth the trouble ^^
And I uploaded mus, mid and pdf from NotePad !
I fixed the grace note issue for you, the title/subtitle being centered is fine (that's what the formatting guidelines say), and the slurs look good to me too. So I'll accept!
This submission has been accepted by Bloop (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1023).
~Zeta, your friendly NSM-Bot