Paper Mario: The Origami King - Toad Town Port
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This seems like it'll be really fun to play! Just a small thing, in m26 the mandolin melody plays three quarter notes, C#-B-E
What JasCas has pointed out as well as this:
• m42 RH beat three sounds like a 16th note figure: F#-G#-F#-E#
• m62 LH beat 2-3 sounds like the En's should be F#'s
• m63-m68 RH these plucked string 8th notes could be staccatoed
Files updated, thanks!
• I think for the entirety of m1-10 every RH 8th note could be staccatoed.
• m11 Segno (return point symbol) - we typically look to have these centered over the barline (can raise it a bit), and the mp could also be moved to the left more, so the symbol's middle aligns with the noteheads above and below it
• m26 RH b3 hearing Dn
• m36 RH b3 hearing C# up an octave
• m43 RH the F# sounds like it's dotted quarter length, followed by a C# 8th length, and a C# on b3 that ties to an 8th length C# on m44 b1.
• m61 RH the Bn sounds to me like it starts on beat 2?
• m86 RH 3.5 hearing En above current An
• m94 LH Bb doesn't really fit on top of this C major chord, you could instead replace and add a Cn on top of current notes.
Quote from: Kricketune54 on August 21, 2024, 07:52:44 PM• m11 Segno (return point symbol) - we typically look to have these centered over the barline (can raise it a bit), and the mp could also be moved to the left more, so the symbol's middle aligns with the noteheads above and below it
I can't move the Segno symbol in Notepad. Please help me to move it later
Quote from: Kricketune54 on August 21, 2024, 07:52:44 PM• m26 RH b3 hearing Dn
• m36 RH b3 hearing C# up an octave
I'm not hearing these two, so I kept them as is for now
Quote from: Kricketune54 on August 21, 2024, 07:52:44 PM• m61 RH the Bn sounds to me like it starts on beat 2?
I hear it starts at beat 1 with a crescendo
Quote from: Kricketune54 on August 21, 2024, 07:52:44 PM• I think for the entirety of m1-10 every RH 8th note could be staccatoed.
• m43 RH the F# sounds like it's dotted quarter length, followed by a C# 8th length, and a C# on b3 that ties to an 8th length C# on m44 b1.
• m86 RH 3.5 hearing En above current An
• m94 LH Bb doesn't really fit on top of this C major chord, you could instead replace and add a Cn on top of current notes.
Fixed
Quote from: Rubikium on August 30, 2024, 03:38:37 AMI can't move the Segno symbol in Notepad. Please help me to move it later
will do!
Quote from: Rubikium on August 30, 2024, 03:38:37 AMI'm not hearing these two, so I kept them as is for now
I'm hearing the Dn in m26 as part of the melody line, up an octave from top Dn in LH. As for m36 it sounds like the accordion goes up an octave.
Quote from: Rubikium on August 30, 2024, 03:38:37 AMI hear it starts at beat 1 with a crescendo
Oh yep, you're correct
Quote from: Rubikium on August 30, 2024, 03:38:37 AM• m43 RH the F# sounds like it's dotted quarter length, followed by a C# 8th length, and a C# on b3 that ties to an 8th length C# on m44 b1.
The C# is only an 8th note currently
• m16 LH beat 2-3 I heard G# and C# instead of Bn and D#
• m33 RH beat 2 sounds staccatoed
• m46 RH beat 1 I hear an An as well
• m46 LH I think the LH has a bit more pitches than necessary, maybe just Gn on beat and An on 2.5? Honestly they aren't really audible to me though so I'd be fine with just having the RH pitches here
• m63 and m67 LH I hear an An between the D's
• m77 RH not hearing these notes, I think the Bn and Bb on top in the LH are the top pitches.
• m78 RH beat 1 hearing top to bottom: Gn-Dn-Bn, and beat 2 An-En-C#.
Quote from: Kricketune54 on September 10, 2024, 02:38:41 PMI'm hearing the Dn in m26 as part of the melody line, up an octave from top Dn in LH. As for m36 it sounds like the accordion goes up an octave.
I see. Updated both
Quote from: Kricketune54 on September 10, 2024, 02:38:41 PMThe C# is only an 8th note currently
Oops. Fixed
Quote from: Kricketune54 on September 10, 2024, 02:38:41 PM• m16 LH beat 2-3 I heard G# and C# instead of Bn and D#
• m33 RH beat 2 sounds staccatoed
• m46 RH beat 1 I hear an An as well
• m46 LH I think the LH has a bit more pitches than necessary, maybe just Gn on beat and An on 2.5? Honestly they aren't really audible to me though so I'd be fine with just having the RH pitches here
• m63 and m67 LH I hear an An between the D's
• m77 RH not hearing these notes, I think the Bn and Bb on top in the LH are the top pitches.
• m78 RH beat 1 hearing top to bottom: Gn-Dn-Bn, and beat 2 An-En-C#.
All changed. Thanks!
Sorry for a bit of a gap, still a bit to go on this one, picked apart the LH a bit more
• m14 and m22 LH beats 2-3 this is a little too heavy with this many notes. I hear top to bottom, Bn-D# and F#-D# on the respective beats
• m23-24 LH can drop the Bn's on beat 2-3 not hearing them
• m25 LH beat 2-3 hearing An-F# and then Dn-F# (no An's on bottom)
• m26 LH beat 2-3 hearing Bn-G# but you could do G#-En, and then beat 3 hearing En-Bn-En (replace Dn on top)
• m45 LH it's hard to hear but the accordion does play the same type of pattern of the previous 4 measures. And you could then shift the LH part to its original octave in the RH?
• m49 and m52 LH hearing the held note restrike on beat 3
• m55 LH this beat is not entirely held, hearing movement/restrikes on beat 3
• m59-62 LH beats 2-3 not hearing the middle notes of these note groups, hearing top and bottom
• m81 RH since it's not really going to be possible to hold you could write beat 1.0 into the current second layer but just as an 8th note
Updated the file with the changes, thanks!
Aesthetics
m10-m11 could center the Segno above the double bar, or above m11 first note.
Notes
RH
m40 there's a weird thing. A# Bn C# is the harmony originally, but it's A#^, F#, C#. Last note is only in original octave. Hearing an ascending rhythm though instead of descending, though inner part almost sounds like it's descending.
m69 not hearing the C#'s
m81 Dn 1.0 you could add a tenuto given the original holds out through the measure, also showing this note isn't a part of the same line as 1.5-3.5.
m85 RH A little conflicted here, but since this measure is a G major chord, I think the following middle notes work a little better per beat: Bn, An, Gn
m91 2.0 hearing F# instead of An
LH
m16 2.0 it sounds like the accordion plays a C# above the G# here.
m36 3.0 hearing a C# above current notes
m39 3.0 G# instead of En
m52 1.0 you could add a tenuto given the original holds out through the measure
Quote from: Kricketune54 on April 03, 2025, 09:07:05 AMm40 there's a weird thing. A# Bn C# is the harmony originally, but it's A#^, F#, C#. Last note is only in original octave. Hearing an ascending rhythm though instead of descending, though inner part almost sounds like it's descending.
I kept it as is since I'm not hearing that. Also the F#-A# tenth interval on b1 would be hard to play if A# Bn C# is used
Quote from: Kricketune54 on April 03, 2025, 09:07:05 AMRH m81 Dn 1.0 you could add a tenuto given the original holds out through the measure, also showing this note isn't a part of the same line as 1.5-3.5.
LH m52 1.0 you could add a tenuto given the original holds out through the measure
I change these two to match m93-94
Quote from: Kricketune54 on April 03, 2025, 09:07:05 AMm91 2.0 hearing F# instead of An
I'd keep it as An since other pieces with the same motif has the same note there
Quote from: Kricketune54 on April 03, 2025, 09:07:05 AMm36 3.0 hearing a C# above current notes
After hearing this section again, I decide to only add C#4 and not C#5 for b2-3 to follow the descending melody in other pieces
Quote from: Kricketune54 on April 03, 2025, 09:07:05 AMRH
m69 not hearing the C#'s
m85 RH A little conflicted here, but since this measure is a G major chord, I think the following middle notes work a little better per beat: Bn, An, Gn
LH
m16 2.0 it sounds like the accordion plays a C# above the G# here.
m39 3.0 G# instead of En
Updated
Quote from: Rubikium on June 03, 2025, 03:20:53 AMI kept it as is since I'm not hearing that. Also the F#-A# tenth interval on b1 would be hard to play if A# Bn C# is used
After relistening here I agree with you.
Quote from: Rubikium on June 03, 2025, 03:20:53 AMI change these two to match m93-94
Works for me
Quote from: Rubikium on June 03, 2025, 03:20:53 AMI'd keep it as An since other pieces with the same motif has the same note there
Alright. I am not too familiar with the game's music but I can hear a Dn within this measure so it's fine by me.
Quote from: Rubikium on June 03, 2025, 03:20:53 AMAfter hearing this section again, I decide to only add C#4 and not C#5 for b2-3 to follow the descending melody in other pieces
Okay, same sentiment from me as above. I am still hearing the C#5 but I'll check it off/if another updater wants to raise it they can.
Two last things and then I think that's all I got.
- At m11 this is more what I was intending for the segno to be positioned like (before and after pictured just move the segno left a bit)
Spoiler
m11 DS.png
- Somewhere along the line this was lost, m26 RH 3.0 is supposed to be a Dn
Quote from: Kricketune54 on June 03, 2025, 12:31:26 PMAt m11 this is more what I was intending for the segno to be positioned like (before and after pictured just move the segno left a bit)
I'd center the Segno above the double bar, but I'm unable to move it using Finale Notepad. Please help me on this later
Quote from: Kricketune54 on June 03, 2025, 12:31:26 PMSomewhere along the line this was lost, m26 RH 3.0 is supposed to be a Dn
Oops. Fixed that now
Quote from: Rubikium on June 05, 2025, 06:12:06 AMI'd center the Segno above the double bar, but I'm unable to move it using Finale Notepad. Please help me on this later
Sure thing, can update this. I have no more comments, Toad Town Port
approved.
EDIT: I have updated the Segno on the file in the project folder.