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what's ur favourite pokémon? due to the topic i posted the day before about pokémon, I'm really interested what pokémon u liked best. And u only have to vote if you find it kiddy and u are not able to admit that u actually like it. :) anyway i voted for silver/gold because the game was really really good.

This was also a topic recently on the other forum I'm a member of, CoasterForce. This was what I wrote then.

Quote from: meGeneration I was the far superior in terms of originality. However, the battle system was pretty skewed (any Pokémon with Double Team, Sand-attack, Rest and Wrap/Clamp/Bind/Fire Spin was an invinsible unhittable douchebag. Flareon, for example), though the story mode rocked.

Generation II brought a lot of goodyness, and personally, I think Gold/Silver/Crystal are the best of the series, game-wise. The thing of going back to Kanto was really good, though the programmers had to cut a lot out of the region, either to keep the game from being too long, or because of technical limitations. As most awake players can see, none of the large dungeons from Gen I are there in Gen II. And all the trainers in the game downright sucked, the only one to provide a mild resistance was Red, who of course could only be battled once a day. Even the Pokémon League had their Pokémon lobotomized, the best of them having one single Pokémon at lvl. 50.

Gen III was only average, though the battle system was vastly improved, and the amount of moves available was really good. The inclusions of contests and the graphical/sound update also made the game a lot fresher. However, the new Pokémon were mostly hideous, and many of them were really unnecessary. The Gen I remakes were good too.

Gen IV was a downright epic disappointment. The story was just a copy of the previous generations, there was a ton of (bad) legendaries, and only a dozen or so of the new Pokémon were in the spirit of the previous generations. The legends now include "creation myths", and the villainous team now will destroy the universe, instead of just taking control of the region (gen I and II) or change the world (Gen. III).
The music was not good at all (two exceptions), and the contests were just gimmicky and overly complicated. The only thing I liked was the battle system update (Yay! Split attack/sp. attack for all type moves!), and the larger numbers of TMs.
Rumours has it that the Gen. II games are to be remade for the DS. I really hope they do it.

Gen. II for me. I really hope there never will be a gen. V, just a few new Pokémon and a for once different story. A less ambigous villainous team and no more legendaries (Honestly. What more can they base legends on?) would be much appreciated. Start using the old material in new ways instead of adding a ton more of declining quality.

nice article really and i completely share ur opinion. Gen IV was really disappointing, although i must say i enjoyed the music very much. The point is that there are too much Pokémon. Instead of producing millions of pokémon for each gen, they could do a remake of gen II as well. But obviously it won't change anyway. However, let's hope that the next edition will be much better than the last one.

i think diamond/pearl won't get any vote :)

Gold and Silver take the cake here It was a great experiance when you just finished red version (or Yellow in my case) and had a new adventure all over again. Had 100 more pokemon but you could live with it not with 493 pokemon to capture just a simple 251 was all. and it was great.

I remember the hours of gettin' to know the Pokémon so well, that I'll always be in love with Gen I. Gen I had a great storyline, the gym leaders and E4 were one of the hardest in the series, the Pokémon were original (not very strange though), the music was so sweet and the game was fairly simple. One disadvantage: after you had conquered the E4, you could only battle wild Pokémon and battle the E4, so it was really hard to re-match with trainers.

Gen II was, as many agree, one of the best games. The trainers in Johto were horribly easy, including the E4, and in my opinion Kanto was heavily underrated. Nothing was left, just Snorlaxes, gym leaders, E4 and some minor trainers. The music was lovely, the graphics had improved and as Metroid said before, it was always better to live with 251 then with 493. The legendaries were cool, but quite weak.

Gen III was, next to Gen II, my favorite. The new Pokémon were cool and the fact that the number of legendaries had increased so much, didn't disturb me, because they were strong. Kyogre could beat the E4 on his one the first time at level 49. The music was really great, Team Aqua (in my case) started to become less villainous (which I didn't like), but the adventure lasted all game long.

Gen IV was a complete disappointment, the music was bad, the newly added Pokémon were just plain stupid and useless, Team Galactic was like a minor in the huge game and the storyline ended when you had caught/beaten the Pokémon at Sky Pillar. There was a nausiating high number of legendaries and they were so bad. Heatran (how stupid can you be to give a legendary a 4x weakness against earthquake?!), Cresselia (annoying to catch and not better than a good trained Alakazam), the Legendary Trio (not original, just three the same Pokémon), Rotom (why the hell did they invent this useless thing?) etc. Only Darkrai and Arceus were good (and also the unobtainable ones along with Shaymin and Manaphy/Phione), so that was like plain stupid. One little point of light: the graphics were incredible. They should also never have invented the Pokéradar and the VS. Seeker. Horrible to walk so much for one beep.

You guys totally forgot about Colosseum and XD. Colosseum was the best game in my opinion when it comes to music, as you can see in my arrangements thread. They have some lovely piano/rock organ motives and the quality is far better. XD has some great techno-like music, like Battle SIM Challenge, Cipher's Theme and the stunning the Hexagon Bros. The storyline of both however is complicated and the lack of routes to train one is a huge minor. The admins were really cool and the idea of Shadow Pokémon was great, although the purifying was a hell of a job.

So in my opinion:
Best music: Colosseum/XD
Best storyline: Gold/Silver/Crystal
Best graphics: Diamond/Pearl/Platinum
Best villains: Red/Blue/Yellow
Best legendaries: Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald
Best disappointment: Diamond/Pearl/Platinum :P

And I do know I can't write as well as Cobra ;)

First of all I think you write pretty well :). Secondly I think that you are right, I totally agree with you. But in my opinion Gen III wasn't as good as the Gen II. It was hilarious. I got the game when I was 8 years old and I played it with my friends all day long. One thing I must complain about Pokemon: The games are getting easier every Generation. As you said GreekGeek Kyogre could beat the E4 on his one the first time at level 49. And Diamond and Pearl might had a great story after the E4, but in my opinion far too boring.

...O_o

I've played all the main Pokemon games and apparently no one likes the newer generations? Why? I think they're good. Maybe I just have different tastes. I also like movie sequels also unlike most people. Sorry to say I like the Pokemon D/P/Pt better. Sorry

Quote from: Purple1222119 on May 24, 2009, 10:51:43 PM...O_o

I've played all the main Pokemon games and apparently no one likes the newer generations? Why? I think they're good. Maybe I just have different tastes. I also like movie sequels also unlike most people. Sorry to say I like the Pokemon D/P/Pt better. Sorry

That's okay, I just hope they don't do a remake of D/P/Pt (but I guess they will).

I thought the gen I pokémon were good, gen II alright (starters and legendaries sucked) gen III had a few good pokémon however it did start to get a bit stupid now, and gen IV introduced some pretty cool things however the pokémon were downright stupid. Soon we're going to have 'Dotmon' and 'Polka-dotmon', it's fifteenth-gen evolution.

^^^I think the reason is that, after all, the newer games follow the exact same formula as all the previous ones, and each generation adds more useless legendary Pokémons. It's great to start in that remote rural village and roam the land to be a great trainer, but after four games, it's starting to wear.
Also, look at:
 - The starter trios, always the same types.
 - The villainous team, who gets more ambigous each time.
 - You can find a normal- and a flying- type on the route going from Town 1 to Town 2
 - Always 8 gyms
 - http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Future_generations_of_Pok%C3%A9mon in general. Read this, and realise how predictable the games have become.

And the music from D/P is just generally worse than music in previous games. No feeling or atmosphere anywhere. With one exception...

What I'd like to see is something new. Using the same legendaries in new legends, not have a villainous team in the same way, more Gyms or semi-gyms, places you don't need to visit, more side-quests, and more ways to complete the game. Be creative, GameFreak!

Oh, look, they are re-releasing gold and silver.

HeartGold and SoulSilver. It fits, right?

Quote from: Tranzlater on May 25, 2009, 06:27:03 AMOh, look, they are re-releasing gold and silver.

HeartGold and SoulSilver. It fits, right?

Good morning my friend.

Quote from: Cobraroll on May 25, 2009, 01:01:45 AM^^^I think the reason is that, after all, the newer games follow the exact same formula as all the previous ones, and each generation adds more useless legendary Pokémons. It's great to start in that remote rural village and roam the land to be a great trainer, but after four games, it's starting to wear.
Also, look at:
 - The starter trios, always the same types.
 - The villainous team, who gets more ambigous each time.
 - You can find a normal- and a flying- type on the route going from Town 1 to Town 2
 - Always 8 gyms
 - http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Future_generations_of_Pok%C3%A9mon in general. Read this, and realise how predictable the games have become.

And the music from D/P is just generally worse than music in previous games. No feeling or atmosphere anywhere. With one exception...

What I'd like to see is something new. Using the same legendaries in new legends, not have a villainous team in the same way, more Gyms or semi-gyms, places you don't need to visit, more side-quests, and more ways to complete the game. Be creative, GameFreak!

Totally agree, as usual.
And the E4 should be made harder...

There should be an E3, just to take the piss.

R/B/G FTW

Quote from: Tranzlater on May 25, 2009, 12:54:43 AMI thought the gen I pokémon were good, gen II alright (starters and legendaries sucked)

You have something against Cyndaquil?  >:(

Why does everybody hate on Gen IV! D:
I thought it had great music, and being a pokemon game, of course it's going to have a similar plot to the other games. That is, train pokemon to be a great trainer, fight evil organization ____. The pokemon really weren't any more unoriginal than previous generations.

With that being said, Silver/Gold version FTW!

Yeah, cyndaquil... is kinda... y'know...


And I didn't think the music in IV was too bad, actually. Not as memorable, but let's face it, Gen I music got irritating after a while.

Cyndaquil would beat your penguin in a fight any day!

That being said, I like Gen III best, as the world seems so much more variable and vast, the routes aren't repetitive, and because the bad-guy/rival situations were actually fun (the weather building). I also just happen to like the 3rd set of Pokemon. Plus, the addition of Secret Bases and the Battle Frontier was cool  8).

Gen III was pretty good but Gen I will always have that special place in my heart.

Their in the process of a remake of Gold/Silver. Its called Heart Gold and Soul Silver and they have not specified a release date for it yet. It will be for DS

Quote from: Tranzlater on May 25, 2009, 06:27:03 AMOh, look, they are re-releasing gold and silver.

HeartGold and SoulSilver. It fits, right?

We know. 8)

Yep let's hope that it won't be an epic disappointment like DP.

You should win an award if you're able to screw up Gold and Silver.
After the award, a public execution

^^I like that idea.

We should execute a lot of people for atrocious games.

There surely are a lot...

Well, our planet is rather overpopulated...

I like the new avy, Greek.

Thanks Ingus =), so do I.
The next one will be a Salamence, but it resembled the one (the Meta) before too much so I was in for a change.

Hah, I remembered, a few christmases ago I mainly wanted to stock up my short-term savings account, so I only got one game- the Pokémon battle game for Wii (forgot what it is called, too lazy to go downstairs and find out).
It was alright for a while, but online SUCKED so bad, and it got sooooo dull...

^I think it's Pokemon Battle Revolution.
My fav game is pokemon crystal, mainly because the pokémon were "moving when entering a fight",and because I was finally able to play as a girl. The fact that you could go back to Kanto was awesome too. Hated Gen III, the pokémon were just not as charismatic as the ones in Gen I and Gen II, and the music sucked imo. Gen IV is not so bad, although I don't really like the Pokémons.
Oh, and Cyndaquil ftw.

Quote from: Tranzlater on July 28, 2009, 02:09:51 PMHah, I remembered, a few christmases ago I mainly wanted to stock up my short-term savings account, so I only got one game- the Pokémon battle game for Wii (forgot what it is called, too lazy to go downstairs and find out).
It was alright for a while, but online SUCKED so bad, and it got sooooo dull...

the only good 3D games were the stadiums, colosseum went downhill (it was TOOOOOOO SLOOOOOOW.)

IMO, GenII was the best, with FRGL coming in second for me.

I really liked the wifi addition to diamond and pearl, but thats about it.

I really loved the second and third generation pokemons. But probably second generation most because it was so much fun chasing the legendary dogs and playing linked battles with my friends back in the day.   ;D

I completely agree with you. GenII was really funny. Unfortunately I think the games are getting easier to beat.

Quote from: dahans on July 29, 2009, 02:44:27 AMI completely agree with you. GenII was really funny. Unfortunately I think the games are getting easier to beat.

Hell yeah. They aren't really getting longer at least either because they are adding too many crap Pokémon.
They should really make a console proper RPG pokémon game that really breaks the mould.

True. Or they just should stop inventing new Pokemon. IT'S ENOUGH!

I read somewhere that they want to do 6 generations of Pokemon, and I just hope it's not true. I mean, they already lack inspiration to create new pokémon! Gen IV was mainly evolutions of older pokemon... it really sucks. Oh, and am I the only one who think that there're too many legendary Pokemon?

Quote from: Roz~ on July 29, 2009, 09:21:01 AMI read somewhere that they want to do 6 generations of Pokemon, and I just hope it's not true. I mean, they already lack inspiration to create new pokémon! Gen IV was mainly evolutions of older pokemon... it really sucks. Oh, and am I the only one who think that there're too many legendary Pokemon?

NO, you are not the only one. I mean, the three birds and mewtwo and 1 by regular means unotainable, (5)

ok, three dogs, two birds gotta-catch-one and gotta-trade-one and 1 unobtainable by regular means ok. (6)


NOW, 2 gotta trade 1 dragons, 2 gotta trade mosnter thingies, 1 unobtainable, 3 rock things, and 1 in both versions. (9 D:)

and NOW, 2 gotta trade, 1 in both versions, 3 brain things, 1 moon thing, 1 garden thing, 1 lava thing, 1 fusioned rock thing, 1 dark ghost thing, 2 sea things (with its baby) and god damn you arceus. (14, 13 if you don't count phione D: D: D:)

I think what Gamefreak wants  to avoid is: If you can only catch  the same Pokemon, the games get a bit boring. Of course the more Pokemon there are, the more confusing it is. Let's wait. We cannot influence the decision of Gamefreak. (Unfortunately, since it would be much better if the opinions of the gamers would be respected)

Agreed.

Silver was  teh besst!

By far ;)

I preferred Ruby, but it was close.

This is pretty interesting. I thought Red/Blue would get much more votes and Diamond/Perl get much more votes than expected.

Quote from: dahans on October 04, 2009, 08:35:40 AMThis is pretty interesting. I thought Red/Blue would get much more votes and Diamond/Perl get much more votes than expected.

The only reason that diamond and pearl got more votes was because the new features, like wifi, graphics, etc. are pretty cool.
(it's just the pokemon sucked)

That's true, but the game was horrible.

The only thing that's good in these games = graphics are nice. Everything else sucks imo.

^Nah, the metagame required the physical/special split of moves that the fourth generation brought. It's just that it doesn't pay to play defensive any more, because there are so many hard-hitters around.

But I really hope the next generation (believe me, there will be at least one more) will change the storyline a little. As in, change many of the storyline parts that the games have in common (encountering something else than the generation equivalent of Pidgey/Rattata once you get out of the first town would be nice, for instance).

^Ofc there'll be more generations, I read that Nintendo planned to do 6 generations of Pokémon. And yeah, it would be nice to encounter something else than normal type and bird type Pokémon, but it's probably not gonna happen, because as you said, we're right at the beginning of the game, so we're going to battle those weak Pokémon. Plus I don't think they'll change the storyline. I mean, why would they change it if it's still that popular? Although I agree, something new would be awesome.

Quote from: Roz~ on October 17, 2009, 12:31:39 PM^Ofc there'll be more generations, I read that Nintendo planned to do 6 generations of Pokémon.

Nintendo will continue making Pokemon games until they stop making money from them, which will likely be never.

Sad but true, now they're just ruining the serie.

Quote from: SirIngusBingus on October 17, 2009, 03:58:15 PM

Quote from: Roz~ on October 17, 2009, 12:31:39 PM^Ofc there'll be more generations, I read that Nintendo planned to do 6 generations of Pokémon.

Nintendo will continue making Pokemon games until they stop making money from them, which will likely be never.

FORTUNATELY! I LOVE POKEMON! I CAN'T WAIT ANY LONGER! I NEED POKEMON IMMEDIATELY! When will be the next gen released?

First gen : ~1996
Second gen : ~2000
Third gen : ~2004
Fourth gen : ~2008
We can guess somewhere around 2012. And I love Pokémon too, but I'd be happy if they'd stop inventing new Pokémon.

Actually, the Japanese release dates go:
Red/Green - February 1996
Gold/Silver - November 1999
Ruby/Sapphire - November 2002
Diamond/Pearl - September 2006

So a new generation may actually be less than half a year away.

Then we have the first appearance of the Pokémon of the next generation:
Gen II: Ho-oh - April 1997 (First Pokémon episode), Togepi - June 1998
Gen III: Kecleon - July 2001 (Episode 205)
Gen IV: Munchlax - July 2004 (Movie 7)

So actually, sightings of a Generation V Pokémon is already long overdue. It's been over five years, or almost precicely the time it took from Generation I debuted to Generation III debuted, since we last saw the signs of a new generation.

Keep your eyes open.

I will definitely.