So first of all, I've been coming to this site for about 2 or so years, and I am very thankful for all the amazing user-uploaded sheets, and i enjoy playing very many of them!! in case you were wondering, http://www.youtube.com/user/steve07269...
I'm really not one to complain... and like... although i'm not really intending for this to be a complain but i guess it can be one.
so this user's "virtuoso" pieces... i've seen him "remix" the original mario song, the zelda theme, and the lost woods theme... and a few more i think. i can play these "non-virtuoso" pieces that were submitted to this site... but i was just wondering if anyone can actually play the virtuoso ones. i mean, it seems like in order to be talented enough to actually be able to play the virtuoso songs, you would have to be a concert player, and past the "video game" stage of music playing.
don't get me wrong, i love the sound of these pieces... but... it just seems like a HUGE kick in the pants when you can play the song, and then out of nowhere comes another version of the song that only adds hundreds of more notes, just so that the song is harder, and sounds "better". i put better in quotes because sometimes i think it makes the song just sound crowded, and not at all like it does originally. am i the only one thinking this? just makes me feel so amateur because i'm unable to play an insanely tough version of the song. you don't need 3-fingered chords for every quarter-note! BLAH
just realized i said his username wrong. which makes me look 100x cooler.
also if you're reading this, no hard feelings bro. you do an amazing job with the arrangments :o
This has basically been discussed in his submission topic. Just know that if it has been submitted, it has for good reason. There are many songs on site that aren't "Virtuoso" that many of us (including myself) cannot play, so, don't feel alone when you cannot play something. As for note crowding, also refer to his submission topic. Trust me, 6 or 7 pages of basically what you are stating now, and most all of it gets covered.
And then you go look at Rachmaninoff and are all sad because his music rapes you in the fingers.
Man, I seem to be appearing everywhere on this forum...and no hard feelings.
I find it hilarious that this topic is basically saying that your arrangements being hard lowers this person's fragile and already low self esteem because they can't play them.
Or that the music is pointless because nobody can play them.
Sure you can. It's not harder than some Rachmaninoff pieces I've seen.
And how many casual pianists can play those eh?
Anyway, in the first post, steve only says he's wondering if anybody can actually play them, because he, as a casual pianist, cannot.
You don't have to roam our forums and troll everybody who has an opinion, or worse yet,
has feelings.Quote from: steve182 on August 11, 2009, 12:13:20 AMi put better in quotes because sometimes i think it makes the song just sound crowded, and not at all like it does originally. am i the only one thinking this?
I quite agree. Sorry Maestro, I just don't see these as "virtuoso". To me, its just the original with overuse of chords, octaves, and grace notes. Sure it sounds good (sometimes), but honestly, I think anybody could produce a similar product using a decent midi and basic music theory.
I think that's a challenge...
You two. Flagpole. 3 o'clock.
Hugo: Well of course they could, but he did it first, so he gets the glory. End topic?
Haha but if anyone could, then what glory is there? :P
A pretty good amount, considering that he's getting special treatment and nobody else is making stuff like him.
Because nobody can play it. -_-
This is just going in circles...you either like my music or not.
Quote from: MaestroUGC on August 12, 2009, 06:40:36 PMThis is just going in circles...you either like my music or not.
Agreed.
I don't see anything wrong with having a few songs on the site there are only playable by the very, very, almost too skilled, especially when they have a special label. They're not ruining the site, they're not a blight on its image. So what's the problem?
Bitches be bitchin'
I never said there was a problem. I merely said I agreed with Steve in saying that the 'virtuoso' can sometimes be too much.
k? :)
Although his pieces are "technically" playable, the people who are capable of playing Rachmaninoff-caliber pieces are generally not going to search the internet for virtuoso level video game arrangements. Maybe some people can prove me wrong by posting recordings of people playing these arrangements, but until then... meh...
Although... There is no reason at all these songs should be removed from the site. Not only do they hurt nobody, but a large group of members (myself included) enjoy listening to some of them.
Also, in putting these sheets up, NSM has inadventantly taken a step away from accurate arrangements and one towards enjoyable arrangements. If "virtuoso" sheets can go up, wouldn't it only be fair to let "jazzy remixes" go up also? So yeah.
See: Squaresound
Quote from: Sir Awesomesauce on August 15, 2009, 12:45:41 PMAlso, in putting these sheets up, NSM has inadvertently taken a step away from accurate arrangements and one towards enjoyable arrangements. If "virtuoso" sheets can go up, wouldn't it only be fair to let "jazzy remixes" go up also? So yeah.
I don't see why not, as long as there is already an accurate version on the site.
I second that motion.
Though if we do start getting people making arrangements like the ones you see on Squaresound, we need to have a separate section for them. But only if people really catch on to the idea.
Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on August 15, 2009, 04:09:33 PMThough if we do start getting people making arrangements like the ones you see on Squaresound, we need to have a separate section for them. But only if people really catch on to the idea.
I concur.
Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on August 15, 2009, 04:09:33 PMThough if we do start getting people making arrangements like the ones you see on Squaresound, we need to have a separate section for them. But only if people really catch on to the idea.
I also agree.
Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on August 11, 2009, 10:38:20 PMI find it hilarious that this topic is basically saying that your arrangements being hard lowers this person's fragile and already low self esteem because they can't play them.
dude thats pretty low. "lowers this person's fragile and already low self esteem because they can't play them"...
not only do you know nothing about me, but at least i have enough respect to not fight on the internet.
i was merely stating my opinion and got shit on for it. this is why i find forums pointless.
That's true. I think this thread is rather pointless. We neither need a seperate section for them nor we do need them. They are a great amplification imo. It's really interesting the virtuoso with the normal sheets. If you think that the piece is too easy just have a look at the virtuoso piece and try to imitate this style. Why not? We do not have to argue about this.
I think this topic its pointless. We dont need to create a topic just to see if Maestro's arrangements are hard to play. An arrangement is an arrangement, hard or easy. Also, it depends from person to person. For example, they aren't hard for me. I dont think they are "virtuoso" either.
Im not trying to criticize Maestro's work. I think his arr. are pretty cool. But I think we shouldn't separate every arrangement from the others before knowing everyone's musical skills...
Quote from: universe-X on October 04, 2009, 07:51:16 PMif you find them so pointless then get out! we don't need u here anyway.
and another thing, if you decide to change your mind and stay, you really want to
STAY AWAY FROM POSTS THAT ARE OVER A month OLD!!!!
Don't be a dick. We have enough of those thank you very much.
If I had mod powers this would be locked, but alas....
Quote from: HugoMeister on October 05, 2009, 06:58:28 PMDon't be a dick. We have enough of those thank you very much.
::)
But he had a point, the guy that posted was just whining about how his self esteem was indeed damaged and that I'm very insensitive. I would have replied "welcome to the internet, foo", but everyone else has kinda derailed that mini topic.
Quote from: ALPRAS on October 05, 2009, 06:30:55 AMI think this topic its pointless. We dont need to create a topic just to see if Maestro's arrangements are hard to play. An arrangement is an arrangement, hard or easy. Also, it depends from person to person. For example, they aren't hard for me. I dont think they are "virtuoso" either.
Im not trying to criticize Maestro's work. I think his arr. are pretty cool. But I think we shouldn't separate every arrangement from the others before knowing everyone's musical skills...
You tend to be a bit of a show off^^. I would have loads of difficulties playing his arrangments. One more thing: Everybody is able to make his arrangments a bit easier.
He merely wished to open discussion to find out if anybody agreed with his thoughts of "sometimes it can be too much."
Also, I never pointed at you. xD
But yeah.
END TOPIC?
Quote from: dahans on October 06, 2009, 06:44:37 AMYou tend to be a bit of a show off^^.
A bit ;D Sorry for that, I dont like to do it, but sometimes....
Quote from: HugoMeister on October 06, 2009, 01:14:18 PMEND TOPIC?
YEAH
This went from criticism to insulting. End it now.
Anyone want popcorn while we wait?
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Thank you.
xD xD I didn't want to be insulting anyway. Sry for that^^
This topic is so bipolar.
Like your family. ::)
PWND
Tis not a pwn if I'm the one who said it in the first place.
Lol we will never close this topic.^^ WHERE IS THE MIGHTY ONE?
Being a pirate.
I think that's enough of this...