Hey, I've been working on full concert band and concert orchestra arrangements of Freezeezy Peak and I was wondering if I could post it on the site, and maybe even expanding to full arrangements, and not just for piano? Thoughts?
-Saxodrum
Feel free to share the arrangements on the forums, but the actual site only accepts piano arrangements of songs.
I believe some "partners" of NSM accept full band arrangements, etc. Appolomix?
I recommend www.vgvirtuoso.net, Saxodrum.
Why don't we accept them? A "full" orchestrated version takes you much longer than a piano arrangment...
Yeah, unfortunately, as full arrangements are awesome, NSM doesn't accept them. Go to VGVirtuoso like Kotor said. You'll like it there. I guarentee it.
Well, if we want the people to stay at our forum, we must accept orchestrated arrangments as well. The name of the website is ninsheetmusic, not pianoninsheetmusic. Does this make more effort?
Quote from: dahans on January 17, 2010, 02:46:23 AMWell, if we want the people to stay at our forum, we must accept orchestrated arrangments as well. The name of the website is ninsheetmusic, not pianoninsheetmusic. Does this make more effort?
He does have a bit of a point..... but then again we dont need that, because there
is a picture of a piano in the background..
Ninsheetmusic has always been only piano sheet music. We're not going to lose a significant amount of members if we reject orchestrated versions. We always have anyway and you all are still here.
That's ok I guess, probably we should make an "orchestrated arrangments thread".
Ugh.
Honestly dahans, this is
exactly why we bother with it in the first place; because NSM doesn't do non-piano.
Quote from: Brassman388 on January 16, 2010, 10:18:46 PMYeah, unfortunately, as full arrangements are awesome, NSM doesn't accept them. Go to VGVirtuoso like Kotor said. You'll like it there. I guarentee it.
Quote from: kotorfanboy on January 16, 2010, 08:01:23 PMI recommend www.vgvirtuoso.net, Saxodrum.
Make sure you submit to a site that is actually visited like Squaresound too.
Just a question: Is it a specific reason why we reject full arrangements?
The way I see it, of course we shouldn't accept orchestral arrangements of songs that hasn't been arranged for piano yet, but I see no reason for completely rejecting them. We could have a separate section of the site, or something, or at least point more directly to affiliates that accept these.
Quote from: Cobraroll on January 18, 2010, 03:06:29 AMJust a question: Is it a specific reason why we reject full arrangements?
The way I see it, of course we shouldn't accept orchestral arrangements of songs that hasn't been arranged for piano yet, but I see no reason for completely rejecting them. We could have a separate section of the site, or something, or at least point more directly to affiliates that accept these.
I totally agree with you.
Because the people who have come here for a long time come here, expecting to find piano sheet music. Why is that? Because that's what Nintendo Sheet Music has done from the beginning and if they came here and suddenly found full orchestrations they might get confused and a little disgruntled over the change. The only way to fix that problem would be to make the submission dtuff even more complex by adding an area for instruments.
That is why.
I'm not about to screw with tradition.
Ganondorf lives!
and is correct.
Quote from: Nintendude73 on January 18, 2010, 07:36:36 PMI'm not about to screw with tradition.
Traditions change. ;)
lol, Indian is the new Black.
I don't see what you guys don't get about this.
NSM got to be where it is because it does what its good at; the majority of its members are in-fact pianists. Do you want to know why?
Because NSM was created to share Piano music.
Numerous other sites have been developed and designed to accommodate larger scale works. Plenty of them are successful, others aren't doing so well, because instead of putting those certain talents into helping them, you insist on trying to shove it up someone's ass who doesn't want it.
You're insisting on feeding one of the few fat people sitting by a larger number of skinny of hungry hobos.
I know NSM is renowned for its piano sheets, but when some of our members have made good full arrangements as well, why shouldn't we have them on site? Our primary focus is piano music, but when other sheets are available, why not just post them too?
Though, I see where you're coming from. Not only would there be few potential players, the sheets also take more server space, and the forums would be filled with requests none of us would have time to take unless we really wanted to.
So actually, I realise it's best to keep full arrangements a "back room" issue. People who are regular posters here know how and where to find full sheets if they are interested anyway. I guess, just with a little brainstorming, I've found an answer to my own question.
besides, isn't this why we have the Home-Made Compositions Thread. we already kind of use that thread for our full-band/orchestrated/composed arrangements? we dont need anything more... if people want to see non-piano work i suppose they could go there?
Quote from: Cobraroll on January 19, 2010, 01:54:30 AMI guess, just with a little brainstorming, I've found an answer to my own question.
Strange how that works, hm?
I would never submit my arrangments to another site...
^No, but there is a sub-forum. NSM's "back room" if you like. Established members know that one can find orchestrated arrangements there. Just a pity that the links expire. *coughNana1Popo2pleaseupdateyourlinkswereallyappreciateyourarrangementsbutitskindahardatthemomentasthelinksaredowncough*
Is there a possibility that we could upload these to the NSM server if they are really good, but not put the links anywhere than in their respective topis? That way, they're never an "official" part of the site, but still available even if they who arranged them leave the forums.
Quote from: dahans on January 19, 2010, 11:00:27 AMI would never submit my arrangments to another site...
Well have fun not having your full arrangements on the internet.
Quote from: Brassman388 on January 16, 2010, 10:18:46 PMGo to VGVirtuoso like Kotor said. You'll like it there. I guarentee it.
Listen to Joe Namath, Saxodrum.
^ ya... i know. ive been really busy (which is why i havent been arranging)... but i'll resupply my broken links as soon as i can; hopefully tonight.
and i can also see where Cobraroll is going, but perhaps it's too much, because it might just take up room, and it would be too much to keep up to date (say we decide to change the arrangement)... etc... so pretty much, i believe we drop the subject, cuz i dont think we are planning on having any form of this on the site, other than what is in the Off Topic section. :-\
Quote from: Nana1Popo2 on January 19, 2010, 04:30:16 PM...other than what is in the Creativity Corner section. :-\
Fixed.
^ right.
But the Creativity Corner is barely ever visited.
Why don't we make a submission topic for orchestral arrangements? All orchestral arrangements. It doesn't (won't) be accepted anyway, and at least this way, it's visited a little more.
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Quote from: universe-X on January 20, 2010, 02:44:10 PMWhy don't we make a submission topic for orchestral arrangements? All orchestral arrangements. It doesn't (won't) be accepted anyway, and at least this way, it's visited a little more.
How about no.
Just an (bad) idea.
I've always wanted to expand NSM to accept more arrangements from different instruments and other things, I'm not saying it's never going to happen; but now is not the right time.
hmmm, another website for user-generated orchestral arrangements of video games? It's already been done, butI don't wanna register too many accounts... it's how we lost half the members on this site... well that and a lack of an updating crew.
Updaters are like non-rechargable batteries, they work for a while and then run out of power leaving you no choice but to obtain new ones.
Or try to recharge them and watch them explode. Should've read the safety sticker.
I did that once with some 9 volt batteries. Got shrapnel and gunk all over the damn ceiling.
Quote from: Ganondorf on January 18, 2010, 04:37:05 PMBecause the people who have come here for a long time come here, expecting to find piano sheet music. Why is that? Because that's what Nintendo Sheet Music has done from the beginning and if they came here and suddenly found full orchestrations they might get confused and a little disgruntled over the change. The only way to fix that problem would be to make the submission dtuff even more complex by adding an area for instruments.
That is why.
Hi, my name is Jim, and I am looking for sheet music to play on piano. I know, I'll go to NSM!
*clicks bookmark*
*arrives at main page*
What the FUCK, they're making ORCHESTRATED MUSIC!? THIS DISGRUNTLES ME! Why, I'm so irritated, I think I'll just LEAVE!
Alternatively, he could be so darn confused, he would have no choice but to leave. But I think the point I'm making is pretty clear.
Quote from: Nintendude73 on January 17, 2010, 10:07:51 AMNinsheetmusic has always been only piano sheet music.
And why would we ever change that? Why, gaining more members and arrangements is just a silly idea, don't you agree?
Again, I think the point is pretty clear. It would not be that difficult to accept different instrumentation for arrangements. Just put all the arrangements on the same page, and add an additional column for which instrument it is. If you want to be extra fancy, you can even include a "sort by" button (which could even sort by arrangers, which would be an excellent function).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appealing_to_tradition (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appealing_to_tradition)
There is a reason that wikipedia lists appealing to tradition as a fallacy. Because it's stupid.
Quote from: dahans on January 19, 2010, 11:00:27 AMI would never submit my arrangments to another site...
This sickens me. This sort of ignorant loyalty is why the world sucks. To the man screaming "ALLAH!" running with a bomb strapped to his chest: I wonder what he would be screaming if he were born in Wyoming? Something quite different I assure you. Just because a certain site got to you first does not mean it deserves your undying affection - the site changes (from an active one to a stagnant one), so why can't you? There are plenty of other sites more than willing to accept your music. And these sites aren't competing, why not submit to multiple ones? Isn't the point of your arranging to allow as many people as possible to play these songs? Wouldn't submitting to multiple places aid that cause?
No. Of course not. That's too logical. Why don't you just keep submitting here. Even when they don't accept.
Well, I was thinking about submitting to VGVirtuoso (but first of all, that would just be another account I'm hiding from my parents), but I saw Squaresound first and thought "This is some BS..." Just because of the multiple sheets for 1 song. So, I didn't really bother with VGV because of that risk and i didn't wanna be confused with how the site's run.
SHAMELESS SELF PROMOTION.
Off the top of my head, I'm pretty sure the only doubles are orchestrations and piano solos of the same song. I think that qualifies as "ok".
Also:
Quote from: Sir Awesomesauce on April 10, 2010, 11:24:39 PMThere are plenty of other sites more than willing to accept your music. And these sites aren't competing, why not submit to multiple ones? Isn't the point of your arranging to allow as many people as possible to play these songs? Wouldn't submitting to multiple places aid that cause?
No. Of course not. That's too logical. Why don't you just keep submitting here. Even when they don't accept.
Sauce rules.
That's another question: What qualifies as an orchestration? What instruments do they usually use?
VGV is open to pretty much any ensemble you feel like arranging for. There are arrangements for full orchestras, string quartets, brass ensembles, whatever.
Quote from: universe-X on April 11, 2010, 09:38:53 AMWell, I was thinking about submitting to VGVirtuoso (but first of all, that would just be another account I'm hiding from my parents), but I saw Squaresound first and thought "This is some BS..." Just because of the multiple sheets for 1 song. So, I didn't really bother with VGV because of that risk and i didn't wanna be confused with how the site's run.
There are some differences, yes. Submissions are completely different (VGV has a user uploader). But it's not difficult at all to have accounts on both sites. I've been doing it for ages.
Does VGV still update?
Hard to update when people refuse to submit.
Than I shall submit. ;D
Quote from: universe-X on April 11, 2010, 10:29:15 AMThat's another question: What qualifies as an orchestration?
Anything that has instruments other than just piano would be an orchestration.