Ever been playing an instrument and had a breakthrough with music theory and wanted to share it? this is the place.
During my piano lessons yesterday, my teacher told me it would be good to learn Some music from Spirited Away. he showed me how they use this really relaxing chord that is just notes climbing up the circle of fifths.
I never thought they would sound good together... But it really works xD
Play in order ascending up the piano: D>A>E>F>C>G
Sounds amazing. :p
anyway.
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If you play a string instrument (besides bass), that's an evident truth :P I always pluck all my strings at once before I tune my cello. If it sounds good, I know I'll have an easier chance with the fine tuners. From lowest to highest, the strings are C>G>D>A... fifths :P
Circle of fifths...really guys? I thought you meant music theory as in the stuff beyond the first week of classes.
^Prick
Tbh, my theory knowledge is so poor, I don't even know this circle stuff. I should study it a bit, any suggestions for that? Unlike all you lucky sods I didn't have music classes starting at age 3, makes me feel so out of place :(
Neither did I, I didn't start with music until 5 years ago. I just took the time outside of high school to educate myself.
Um yeah I know my circle of fifths, sharps/flats/related keys, I get all that, but I never thought of using the notes together in chords, it was interesting, it gives you Suspended 2nd chords of of each of the notes as if they were all roots.
interesting.
Anyways I've only been studying theory for 2 years.
And Maestro, you make me feel like I /can't/ mention the Circle of Fifths. it's an integral part of music.
Slow, you may recognize that chord from the beginning of some Spirited away music?
Speaking of breakthroughs, I found that tone rows, when used in fugues, can allow the composer to jump voices and still retain the necessary elements that make the fugue unique. That means the subject can be introduced by one voice, but can be completed by another due to the nature of tone rows. Of course the actual material is fragmented, but if done using vocals, it can lead to some very trippy effects.
I like to write shit that sounds cool.
Hear, hear!
Yeah, I've been kinda lazy about the whole theory part of it. I got the gist of it so far and seems to work fine. I'll get around to it eventually.
....I, really, fail at theory when writing out the sounds on a sheet of paper.
When I mess around with chords on the piano it can sound cool and unique, but I can't tell you at all what kind of chord it is. :'(
You can be a good pianist just by learning music, just playing perfectly, picking up songs that everyone likes.
You can only be a GREAT pianist if you learn songs that you perhaps don't like. And even if you don't like them, you understand why they were written the way they were. You cannot be a great pianist unless you understand music theory, at least to a point.
I must be a great pianist then. But definitely no virtuoso... :-\ lol
Anyone know of a good site to study theory?
no websites-the internet sucks at that kind of thing... i use books.
http://www.musictheory.net/
That's a good start. The exercises work quite well. I was referred to it from my theory teacher in high school. I've advanced far past it now, but for all those who have no idea where to start, I'd start there.
Quote from: pumpy_heart on March 18, 2011, 09:32:25 AMhttp://www.musictheory.net/
That's a good start. The exercises work quite well. I was referred to it from my theory teacher in high school. I've advanced far past it now, but for all those who have no idea where to start, I'd start there.
Myeah I looked there before, but they sort of lost me somewhere near the part about thirds and fifths and stuff but I still went on clueless, maybe I just went too fast through it ^^
If you guys know any good books, plz let me know. I been reading "Muisc Theory For Dummies", but if you got anymore or advice it would be nice.
also not to jack in and take your post but if you guys have tips for composeing let me know, I been trying to make some stuff but its pretty hard.
At my dad's house I had a musical encyclopaedia. Despite not being structured as a treatise on harmony or whatever, it was really fun to look through. And if you needed something explained or discussed, you could look it up in the index. Everything from plagal cadences to Carmen. However, I'm sure an actual book on music would be more helpful. Something like what I mentioned is much more useful for reference, trivia, or fun if you're a music geek like me, ahahaha.
I find that the best way to study theory is to delve yourself into it if you enjoy. After some study and teaching yourself, find a teacher who's got a passion for teaching students about the science and mechanics of music. :) Honestly, some teachers noticeably don't enjoy doing it and overcharge. :P
The difficult thing about music theory is that there are so many different topics to look at. Song structure and form, chord theory and harmonization, dynamics and articulation, etc. Music history is also pretty important too.
I only really know about rhythms and chords and stuff, and even then it's not a whole lot of knowledge. If I had time for real lessons again (hopefully this summer!) then I'd really like to learn more as it helps a lot when arranging and composing (something I'd hopefully like to try someday).
Finding a good teacher probably is the best thing you can do, then it just takes some practice to learn.
Quote from: Offkey on March 05, 2011, 03:27:58 PMTbh, my theory knowledge is so poor, I don't even know this circle stuff. I should study it a bit, any suggestions for that? Unlike all you lucky sods I didn't have music classes starting at age 3, makes me feel so out of place :(
Same here!