Which Pokemon are you training right now, and in which game?
ME, in my Emerald I have to raise a Zubat for my team... UGH LEECH LIFE
But it's almost Lv11, and I think that's when it gets Bite, so that's not really horrible...
So yeah.
The rest of my team right now is Ralts Lv17 and Marshtomp Lv17.
I think I'm going to get maybe Cacturne/Cradily, Torkoal, Manectric, and maybe Salamence once I can find Bagon.
I haven't played in forever but I left off training a scrafty(duh) in white.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on July 18, 2011, 12:28:25 PMBut it's almost Lv11, and I think that's when it gets Bite, so that's not really horrible...
ASTONISH GRAAAAAAAAAAAH
I thought this said Pokemon Trading topic. Well, since I'm here, anyone want a keldeo?
Haven't played pokemon in a while; they bore me out.
Quote from: olimar12345 on July 18, 2011, 08:16:19 PMI thought this said Pokemon Trading topic. Well, since I'm here, anyone want a keldeo?
^We need one of those
Also should get back into training a new team. I put it down after I couldn't get an Adamant Scyther. Ah,the horrors of training.
Quote from: olimar12345 on July 18, 2011, 08:16:19 PMI thought this said Pokemon Trading topic. Well, since I'm here, anyone want a keldeo?
Please refrain from offering hacked 'mons to people.
Also I am currently training the Eeveelutions I bred a while ago.
I'm training my team in Crystal. I've got to face Red pretty soon, and one of them are at level 50 yet. >_> I need to get on that before I even try to beat him.
Training up a team for the Battle Tower. Any ideas anyone?
You should definitely get a Pokemon with spikes or some entry hazard, one to cause some status effects and one that hits hard and fast. Not sure what Pokemon will do, but those ideas should build up some ideas, hopefully.
When in doubt, use Crobat. That's my motto.
Quote from: Nebbles on July 19, 2011, 03:23:12 PMYou should definitely get a Pokemon with spikes or some entry hazard, one to cause some status effects and one that hits hard and fast. Not sure what Pokemon will do, but those ideas should build up some ideas, hopefully.
Spikes/entry hazards are meh in battle tower because you opponents rarely switch their 'mons. A wall would be nice though, something like Blissey/Skarmory/Milotic/Weezing/etc. They can pretty much all learn a status move.
^continuing on, use some sort of sweeper too, like Alakazam, etc.
Battle Tower is 3 'mons, yes? Then one mixed sweeper, one special wall and one physical wall could be good.
Hey what's a good example of a physical wall?
A great physical wall would be Skarmory. Pair that with Blissey (a special wall), and you got one heck-of-a combo.
The Skarmbliss combo used to be deadly, until everyone started using it/people trained 'mons to counter it. But yea, it'd be good in Battle Tower methinks. Also a good physical wall would be Weezing. It's awsm as a wall. Another good Special wall would be Tentacruel.
i wish i could hac mons... I WANTs ME uh MELOETTA! i already have a damn useless keldeo and genesect frum trading...they are free to whoever can offer a hacked meloetta.
Quote from: olimar12345 on July 19, 2011, 06:22:24 PMi wish i could hac mons... I WANTs ME uh MELOETTA! i already have a damn useless keldeo and genesect frum trading...they are free to whoever can offer a hacked meloetta.
No one on NSM is going to give you one. Go ask for one on Serebii, plenty of hackers lurking there.
Quote from: fingerz on July 19, 2011, 03:21:47 PMTraining up a team for the Battle Tower. Any ideas anyone?
Which game? I use full out power on the Battle Subway, but I'm always beaten :( Use stallers, Pokemon with Thunderwave and Will-o-Whisp 'cuz the Battle Tower Trainers just attack. They rarely stall
Except for that fucking Roserade! If that doesn't work just use fast, powerful Pokemon like Salamence, Flygon, Kingdra etc. but have the types spread out so you don't have heaps of weeaknesses and can hit the other trainer's weaknesses (This was my problem). And makes sure that you rarely switch, espeacialy when you get to the harder trainers. If you switch out it's most likely that your Pokemon is going to be OHKOd or severaly damaged. Good Luck!
probably want something to defeat shedinja whether that be a super effective move, damaging weather, or status effects.
Quote from: Clanker37 on July 19, 2011, 07:56:40 PMWhich game? I use full out power on the Battle Subway, but I'm always beaten :( Use stallers, Pokemon with Thunderwave and Will-o-Whisp 'cuz the Battle Tower Trainers just attack. They rarely stall Except for that fucking Roserade! If that doesn't work just use fast, powerful Pokemon like Salamence, Flygon, Kingdra etc. but have the types spread out so you don't have heaps of weeaknesses and can hit the other trainer's weaknesses (This was my problem). And makes sure that you rarely switch, espeacialy when you get to the harder trainers. If you switch out it's most likely that your Pokemon is going to be OHKOd or severaly damaged. Good Luck!
Diamond Version. I was doing so well until I found a Ludiculo. >:(
Bronzong, maybe. Maybe. Unless I have something mixed up.
Quote from: Roz~ on July 19, 2011, 06:23:52 PMNo one on NSM is going to give you one. Go ask for one on Serebii, plenty of hackers lurking there.
I don't know why you get so worked up over hacking pkmn, i beat the game months ago and its boring now... meloetta is the last pokemon i need to have all 649 and both serebii and pokebay arent givn them out...just wanted to see if anyone here could help me out...
Quote from: fingerz on July 19, 2011, 10:01:37 PMDiamond Version. I was doing so well until I found a Ludiculo. >:(
What Pokemon were you using?
Quote from: olimar12345 on July 19, 2011, 11:52:48 PMI don't know why you get so worked up over hacking pkmn, i beat the game months ago and its boring now... meloetta is the last pokemon i need to have all 649 and both serebii and pokebay arent givn them out...just wanted to see if anyone here could help me out...
Probably because you've been asking for one for a long time, and no one's ever gave you one. People, i.e not just me, think it's annoying. That's why I said that. If you want to hack 'mons fine, but don't bother others to get something when they clearly don't want to/can't give you the 'mon you're looking for.
Quote from: Jub3r7 on July 19, 2011, 10:15:23 PMBronzong, maybe. Maybe. Unless I have something mixed up.
Yep Bronzong is good. Can set up hazards, wall sweepers and deal decent damage to them. You can use it as Trick Room support/sweeper, Rain Dance support, Dual screener, etc.
Quote from: Shadoninja on July 19, 2011, 08:01:26 PMprobably want something to defeat shedinja
Impossible. Shedinja is invincible. Give up now.
And don't you pretty much have to have a 'chomp in there somewhere to do the battle tower/subway?
But I can offer legit pokemon for hacked ones, who wouldnt want that? i.e (used correctly) I could offer you a legit lvl 86 latios for a pokemon you took a minute to hack for. You'd be getting the better end of the deal-thats what I'm trying to get through.
I just said genesect and keldeo earlier because they are harder to get=more desirable.
Quote from: spitllama on July 20, 2011, 09:56:57 AMImpossible. Shedinja is invincible. Give up now.
And don't you pretty much have to have a 'chomp in there somewhere to do the battle tower/subway?
Actually Shedinja is one of the worst Pokemon out there. Worse than my favorite (Spinda). Almost worse than Delcatty.
Haha. Delcatty...
Quote from: SlowPokemon on July 20, 2011, 11:24:23 AMActually Shedinja is one of the worst Pokemon out there. Worse than my favorite (Spinda). Almost worse than Delcatty.
Nope, it can be pretty awsm when used correctly.
Quote from: olimar12345 on July 20, 2011, 10:21:25 AMBut I can offer legit pokemon for hacked ones, who wouldnt want that? i.e (used correctly) I could offer you a legit lvl 86 latios for a pokemon you took a minute to hack for. You'd be getting the better end of the deal-thats what I'm trying to get through.
I just said genesect and keldeo earlier because they are harder to get=more desirable.
Rofl. Your Latios probably have meh IVs, so no, receiving something you can't use is not that great. Plus every one can get one in SS. That deal would be good if you were some 10 y/o who wants strong 'mons cuz so amazing lolz
I'm currently grinding in Mt. Silver. My god, it's painful.
@Nebbles: is this Heartgold/SoulSilver, or the GBColor series of Johto?
Quote from: SlowPokemon on July 20, 2011, 11:24:23 AMActually Shedinja is one of the worst Pokemon out there. Worse than my favorite (Spinda). Almost worse than Delcatty.
shedinja is in between. he's got a good defence on some pokemon and not on others. but I wouldn't say he's the best. for Hoenn I say Ralts is tricky to train (needs a lot of EXP to level up), but I guess he would be good if you put some effort.
Quote from: Oritendo on July 20, 2011, 02:22:05 PM@Nebbles: is this Heartgold/SoulSilver, or the GBColor series of Johto?
GBColor. HG/SS, it would've been a bit easier...
Don't worry. R/B is much harder to train up in; no more trainers, no VS Seeker and even the Elite Four becomes worthless. XD
Yeah, true. XD I could always plow through the E4 if I wanted, though...
Quote from: Oritendo on July 20, 2011, 02:42:15 PMshedinja is in between. he's got a good defence on some pokemon and not on others. but I wouldn't say he's the best. for Hoenn I say Ralts is tricky to train (needs a lot of EXP to level up), but I guess he would be good if you put some effort.
Yes, I agree with that (all of it) now that I think about it. You know, I'm using a Gardevoir in Emerald right now (I always use it in Hoenn cause I love it), and it's not bad, but it's difficult to use because the beginning grinding is annoying (especially since you don't get a damaging move till Lv6); also, it doesn't get a non-Psychic damage move its entire moveset in 3rd gen, so you need to use TMs like Shadow Ball and Thunderbolt to make it somewhat useful. Its stats are pretty good though.
As for Shedinja, it's really only good when it's used properly. If the Trainer doesn't know what he's doing, or is kind of new to the competitive aspect, then Shedinja is better left alone.
Anyway, I'm about to face the 5th Gym in Emerald, here is my tentative current team:
Marshtomp Lv29
Torkoal Lv29
Gloom Lv29
Crobat Lv29
Gardevoir Lv30
Lileep Lv30 (I'm mainly using this cause I LOVE Cradily's typing and design)
I'm thinking about dropping one or two, particularly Lileep. It's not suited for a game playthrough. It's better suited for competitive battling, here's why (a bit of a rant will follow):
A) Its stats are not good, or even very decent, until it evolves. Cradily is better, if only a bit: Meh HP, decent Attack and Sp. Attack, pretty good Defense, very good Sp. Defense, and abysmal Speed.
B) Its movepool during 3rd gen was designed to make life unbelievably hard for it. With only the moves Astonish, Constrict, Acid, Ingrain, Confuse Ray, and Amnesia before it evolves, and no access to decent TMs at the time you can acquire it, Lileep is practically impossible to use effectively during gameplay. Even after it evolves, in 3rd gen it only gets Ancientpower and Stockpile/Swallow/Spit Up.
C) I already have Gloom, which is going to be a Bellossom, for a Grass-type (even though its defenses are decidedly lackluster).
I just don't know what I would get instead...meh I would figure it out. So should I drop it or keep it? Any advice guys?
WOAH sorry for wall of text.
I'd go for Bellossom. I've never been disappointed when using one.
Bellossom speed's not that great either. Cradily's awesome, especially w/ Stockpile. If you don't like its moves you can still use TMs.
Oh trust me I love Cradily. I just don't want to go to the trouble training one this game. I'll do it in BW.
I already dropped it for something worse: Spinda. :)
Btw did you read the whole thing or was it too tldr? I said that I was using Bellossom either way. ;)
I like my Bellossom because she's ~shiny~
Quote from: SlowPokemon on July 20, 2011, 06:43:23 PMOh trust me I love Cradily. I just don't want to go to the trouble training one this game. I'll do it in BW.
I already dropped it for something worse: Spinda. :)
Btw did you read the whole thing or was it too tldr? I said that I was using Bellossom either way. ;)
I did, but Bellossom just sucks. x)
Quote from: Nebbles on July 20, 2011, 06:58:07 PMI like my Bellossom because she's ~shiny~
I can have a shiny Bellossom in 15 minutes. Too lazy to do it though.
Plz do. Please transfer one to BW and trade me a shiny, perfect Bellossom. Or Spinda. Whatever you want.
Hmm fine then. Will do it. Don't know when though.
My friend gave me a buttload of shinies. Though she's gonna teach me how to RNG and get shinies easier. Hoo-rah~
Quote from: Roz~ on July 20, 2011, 07:23:36 PMHmm fine then. Will do it. Don't know when though.
omg you listened to me.
OR IT COULD BE AN EEVEE MEANT TO BE A LEAFEON
Any of the above would work
Quote from: SlowPokemon on July 20, 2011, 07:24:33 PMomg you listened to me.
OR IT COULD BE AN EEVEE MEANT TO BE A LEAFEON
Any of the above would work
If I'm reaaaally bored I could breed all 3. Methinks I already have a Leafeon.
Quote from: Nebbles on July 20, 2011, 07:24:16 PMMy friend gave me a buttload of shinies. Though she's gonna teach me how to RNG and get shinies easier. Hoo-rah~
RNGing is really easy.
I heard, but I rather her help me since she's sleeping over tomorrow and she'll be right there to help me if I get stuck. Then I shall have tons of shiny Pokemon!
Currently playing White, and trying to get a lvl. 100 team ready to kick some buttocks. It'll be a very specific pair of buttocks, though, as I only know one person with a 5th gen. game, and I can't play over the Net.
My two first Pokémon to achieve the lvl. 100 status is Hydreigon and Krookodile (Expert Belt + Moxie + Jolly nature = epicness). I'm considering to add Gyarados and Thundurus too, but no idea apart from that. Chandelure is cool, but rather slow, Conkeldurr needs all sorts of breeding to become decent, and I want to use some 'mons from the previous generations as well. I have access to a second DS and Pearl/SoulSilver, so transfers can be arranged. No trading opportunities with other games, though, as my friend and I will alternate being away for the rest of the summer, and after that, I'll be moving.
Suggestions? I want the team to be able to fight on the Subway too, so no Uber Legendaries. They're not fun to train anyway.
Last, a little piece of advice concerning the Battle Subway:
1. Get the weather on your side. A weather inducer can bring highly exploitable conditions to the battlefield. Pokémon with Drizzle/Drought/Snow Warning/Sand Stream are preferred, but you're really limited when it comes to choices (a grand total of five fully evolved Pokémon, two of which you'll have to get from the Dream World).
2. Get. A. Ninjask. Save up BP for the Focus Sash, and unleash the Swords Dance/Speed Boost/Baton Pass menace. The Focus Sash will allow you to survive whatever hits you, so that you're guaranteed to pull off a Swords Dance, and snag a Speed Boost at the end of the turn. You WILL outspeed your opponent at the next turn, unless they've got a priority move, so you can Baton Pass safely. Then bring out a Pokémon like Aggron or Tyranitar, anything with moderate Speed and good defences work, really, and watch it plow through the enemy team like a steamroller in a bowling alley. Doesn't work too well in doubles, though. Another strategy would be Passing an Agility and a Speed Boost to Rhyperior.
3. For doubles: Earthquake + anything that flies is a great combo. I use Moxie Krookodile and Intimidate Gyarados.
4. Another double battle strategy is using a Pokémon with Water Absorb alongside a Pokémon with Surf (or a Pokémon with Motor Drive/Volt Absorb alongside anything with Discharge). Attack your enemies while replenishing your own health. Two Water Absorb Pokémon with Surf sounds more effective, but is a crippling overspecialization.
Quote from: Cobraroll on July 21, 2011, 11:19:12 AMCurrently playing White, and trying to get a lvl. 100 team ready to kick some buttocks. It'll be a very specific pair of buttocks, though, as I only know one person with a 5th gen. game, and I can't play over the Net.
My two first Pokémon to achieve the lvl. 100 status is Hydreigon and Krookodile (Expert Belt + Moxie + Jolly nature = epicness). I'm considering to add Gyarados and Thundurus too, but no idea apart from that. Chandelure is cool, but rather slow, Conkeldurr needs all sorts of breeding to become decent, and I want to use some 'mons from the previous generations as well. I have access to a second DS and Pearl/SoulSilver, so transfers can be arranged. No trading opportunities with other games, though, as my friend and I will alternate being away for the rest of the summer, and after that, I'll be moving.
Suggestions? I want the team to be able to fight on the Subway too, so no Uber Legendaries. They're not fun to train anyway.
Last, a little piece of advice concerning the Battle Subway:
1. Get the weather on your side. A weather inducer can bring highly exploitable conditions to the battlefield. Pokémon with Drizzle/Drought/Snow Warning/Sand Stream are preferred, but you're really limited when it comes to choices (a grand total of five fully evolved Pokémon, two of which you'll have to get from the Dream World).
2. Get. A. Ninjask. Save up BP for the Focus Sash, and unleash the Swords Dance/Speed Boost/Baton Pass menace. The Focus Sash will allow you to survive whatever hits you, so that you're guaranteed to pull off a Swords Dance, and snag a Speed Boost at the end of the turn. You WILL outspeed your opponent at the next turn, unless they've got a priority move, so you can Baton Pass safely. Then bring out a Pokémon like Aggron or Tyranitar, anything with moderate Speed and good defences work, really, and watch it plow through the enemy team like a steamroller in a bowling alley. Doesn't work too well in doubles, though. Another strategy would be Passing an Agility and a Speed Boost to Rhyperior.
3. For doubles: Earthquake + anything that flies is a great combo. I use Moxie Krookodile and Intimidate Gyarados.
4. Another double battle strategy is using a Pokémon with Water Absorb alongside a Pokémon with Surf (or a Pokémon with Motor Drive/Volt Absorb alongside anything with Discharge). Attack your enemies while replenishing your own health. Two Water Absorb Pokémon with Surf sounds more effective, but is a crippling overspecialization.
Omg my Krookodile has Jolly and Moxie too. :D win plus I give it expert belt
Quote from: Cobraroll on July 21, 2011, 11:19:12 AMCurrently playing White, and trying to get a lvl. 100 team ready to kick some buttocks. It'll be a very specific pair of buttocks, though, as I only know one person with a 5th gen. game, and I can't play over the Net.
My two first Pokémon to achieve the lvl. 100 status is Hydreigon and Krookodile (Expert Belt + Moxie + Jolly nature = epicness). I'm considering to add Gyarados and Thundurus too, but no idea apart from that. Chandelure is cool, but rather slow, Conkeldurr needs all sorts of breeding to become decent, and I want to use some 'mons from the previous generations as well. I have access to a second DS and Pearl/SoulSilver, so transfers can be arranged. No trading opportunities with other games, though, as my friend and I will alternate being away for the rest of the summer, and after that, I'll be moving.
Suggestions? I want the team to be able to fight on the Subway too, so no Uber Legendaries. They're not fun to train anyway.
Last, a little piece of advice concerning the Battle Subway:
1. Get the weather on your side. A weather inducer can bring highly exploitable conditions to the battlefield. Pokémon with Drizzle/Drought/Snow Warning/Sand Stream are preferred, but you're really limited when it comes to choices (a grand total of five fully evolved Pokémon, two of which you'll have to get from the Dream World).
2. Get. A. Ninjask. Save up BP for the Focus Sash, and unleash the Swords Dance/Speed Boost/Baton Pass menace. The Focus Sash will allow you to survive whatever hits you, so that you're guaranteed to pull off a Swords Dance, and snag a Speed Boost at the end of the turn. You WILL outspeed your opponent at the next turn, unless they've got a priority move, so you can Baton Pass safely. Then bring out a Pokémon like Aggron or Tyranitar, anything with moderate Speed and good defences work, really, and watch it plow through the enemy team like a steamroller in a bowling alley. Doesn't work too well in doubles, though. Another strategy would be Passing an Agility and a Speed Boost to Rhyperior.
3. For doubles: Earthquake + anything that flies is a great combo. I use Moxie Krookodile and Intimidate Gyarados.
4. Another double battle strategy is using a Pokémon with Water Absorb alongside a Pokémon with Surf (or a Pokémon with Motor Drive/Volt Absorb alongside anything with Discharge). Attack your enemies while replenishing your own health. Two Water Absorb Pokémon with Surf sounds more effective, but is a crippling overspecialization.
Protect on Ninjask, so you can get 2 speed boosts before using Baton Pass.
Also Sazandora w/ surf + Jellicent (I think that's its name) w/ Water Spout = win.
Oh and weather is not that big of a deal in the Battle Subway iirc.
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Yeah, I dunno what the Battle Trains are made out of but they go through a lot. :P
Quote from: Cobraroll on July 21, 2011, 11:19:12 AMCurrently playing White, and trying to get a lvl. 100 team ready to kick some buttocks. It'll be a very specific pair of buttocks, though, as I only know one person with a 5th gen. game, and I can't play over the Net.
My two first Pokémon to achieve the lvl. 100 status is Hydreigon and Krookodile (Expert Belt + Moxie + Jolly nature = epicness). I'm considering to add Gyarados and Thundurus too, but no idea apart from that. Chandelure is cool, but rather slow, Conkeldurr needs all sorts of breeding to become decent, and I want to use some 'mons from the previous generations as well. I have access to a second DS and Pearl/SoulSilver, so transfers can be arranged. No trading opportunities with other games, though, as my friend and I will alternate being away for the rest of the summer, and after that, I'll be moving.
Suggestions? I want the team to be able to fight on the Subway too, so no Uber Legendaries. They're not fun to train anyway.
Well you have two dark types so you'd need to cover your Bug and Fighting Weakness so a Flying Pokemon would be ideal. Thundurus is a good choice and so is Gyarados, but I wouldn't use them in the same team. Dragon Dance Gyarados can be horrific and I'd get one that knows Bounce so you can cover the Bug and Fighting Weaknesses
Do you have an idea of a lead? Some battles are usualy decided when one side get's three layers of Spikes up. Ferrothorn and Forretress have access to Spikes and Stealth Rocks, but they're to predictable and would fall to easily to Drought Ninetails. Most Spikes and ST have a weakness to Fire or Fighting so perhaps Infernape? The only other OU is Emboar unless you really like Evolvite Monferno or Pignite.
A team should cover most of the weaknesses for the sweepers and setup Pokemon. All weaknesses that arn't covered will be easily exploited.
Does anyone have any suggestions for a good training place to buff up for Red? I've beaten almost every trainer to my knowledge and my team is around 50-52.
You can check a list online of what trainers you can call at what times for a guaranteed rematch. For example, right now you'd be checking I think Thursday night. And if you battle that trainer over and over they get stronger... if you didn't already know that.
At least that's how it works in HGSS. Haven't played the old games in a long time.
Quote from: Nebbles on July 21, 2011, 10:13:44 PMDoes anyone have any suggestions for a good training place to buff up for Red? I've beaten almost every trainer to my knowledge and my team is around 50-52.
Gym Leaders and Elite Four. Change the time so that you have
all of the Gym Leaders there at once
Nononono in GSC :C No HGSS.
Oh, then I can't help you; I've never played 2nd gen (And yet I've played the 1st)
Quote from: Clanker37 on July 22, 2011, 12:44:22 AMOh, then I can't help you; I've never played 2nd gen (And yet I've played the 1st)
What? D: Oh poop, I'm really out of places to train and I am bored of grinding in Mt. Silver.
^What about the Elite Four? They give you loads more exp. than wild Pokémon.
Also, if you catch enough wild Chansey (just get something powerful with False Swipe, Sneasel for instance), you'll eventually get a Lucky Egg (8% chance Chansey is holding one), which is great for grinding.
The E4 gets boring after a while u_u
Chansey are rare though, and I am the most impatient person ever.
Just lost my 71-streak win in the Battle Tower (Pokemon Diamond).
...Cradily.
Pokemon to train for my battle against Fingerz:
Ludicolo
Cradily
luditrollo.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on July 22, 2011, 08:31:05 PMPokemon to train for my battle against Fingerz:
Ludicolo
Cradily
I see how it is. XD
The Tyrannitar before the Cradily set it up beautifully... I hate Sandstorm. >:(
I'm now experimenting with Pokemon abilities now; checking out No Guard and seeing whether that could be an advantage in the Battle Tower.
Machamp w/ Dynamic Punch. Confusion hack is nice.
:o 71!!!! That's so betterah than me! I can't even get to Palmer the 2nd time. Actualy I never beat him the 1st time! :'( I'm so impatient.
Yah geeze 71's awesome. I always seem to get too bored/frusterated to keep working on the battle tower/subway. The mix battles with a friend are much more fun! ;D
If you want a good sweeper, Starmie with Thunderbolt, Surf, Psychic, and Ice Beam works pretty well.
Wait. Starmies can learn Thunderbolt?
Yep. They can also learn Thunder.
^With a TM.
Well, I gave myself a plan! I'm going to get Ice Beam and Thunderbolt from the Game Corner in Goldenrod before going to face Red. It means going to the E4, but I get experience that way too, so it's okay. I should be in perfect condition by the time I go to face him again.
If you're going to face Red, get a Graveler. Trust me. It'll help. (Pikachus can be deadly.)
My Sandslash does the job well enough. One Earthquake and it's down.
I had my trusted Feraligatr (lvl.100 ftw!) and my Raichu (somewhere around 80-85 I think)
They can take care of every single pokemon in the game. But I like to use a rock-pokemon against his pikachu. It doesn't need to be good, I beat it with a level 30 Rhydon
*on-topic
I'm not playing pokemon at all at the moment :/
JUST GOT 100-WIN STREAK IN BATTLE TOWER!! BLACK TRAINER CARD!! :D :D
:o
I mean.. but.. that's..
Quote from: Dudeman on July 23, 2011, 07:32:27 PMIf you're going to face Red, get a Graveler. Trust me. It'll help. (Pikachus can be deadly.)
lolololol, rock-type pokemon.
^Except some are actually amazing?
Quote from: SuperFireKirby on July 24, 2011, 05:59:14 PMlolololol, rock-type pokemon.
aerodactyl, kabutops (especially under rain), tyranitar, rhyperior, archeops.
^Cradily :<
Can you get a focus sash at any place other than the battle subway?
the only other methods would be trading with pokemon that has it or action replaying for it.
Dammit. Oh well.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on July 24, 2011, 06:05:18 PM^Except some are actually amazing?
LOLOLOLOLOL, GOOD ROCK POKEMON. BEST JOKE I'VE EVER HEARD IN MY LIFE.
EDIT: I'VE GOT A GOOD ONE. FIGHTING POKEMON DON'T SUCK. LOLOLOLOL
Quote from: SuperFireKirby on July 24, 2011, 07:25:53 PMLOLOLOLOLOL, GOOD ROCK POKEMON. BEST JOKE I'VE EVER HEARD IN MY LIFE.
EDIT: I'VE GOT A GOOD ONE. FIGHTING POKEMON DON'T SUCK. LOLOLOLOL
What the...who are you. I thought SFK was intelligent! D:
remember, he's a gen1fag.
Quote from: Shadoninja on July 24, 2011, 07:53:57 PMremember, he's a gen1fag. totally awesome.
thanks for the compliment
Quote from: Shadoninja on July 22, 2011, 08:32:39 PMluditrollo.
I'm sort of a noob at the battle tower, but why does everyone hate Ludicolo?
Cause he has amazing potential. Not to mention it's not that common for opponents to carry Bug, Poison, or Flying to counter it.
Great potential as what? A wall? A sweeper?
Both.
Ooh. The breeding starts now.
Crobat. Always Crobat.
^meh.
I love crobat.
Zubat: I like one only (that I always call Zubov (after the icehockeyplayer)), then they are seriously annoying
Golbat: Never liked him/her (or just him?)
Crobat: Epic. Ever since I found out that you could evolve him without trading, I have loved him. The first times against the E4 was annoying though, all the poison :/
Quote from: fabbemannen on July 25, 2011, 12:53:59 PMZubat: I like one only (that I always call Zubov (after the icehockeyplayer)), then they are seriously annoying
Golbat: Never liked him/her (or just him?)
Crobat: Epic. Ever since I found out that you could evolve him without trading, I have loved him. The first times against the E4 was annoying though, all the poison :/
Crobat evolves via happiness.
Does anyone know where to train for Defense EVs in Black and White?
Defense
Ferroseed / Chargestone Cave / +1 EV
Klink / Chargestone Cave / +1 EV
Onix / Relic Castle (post game) / +1 EV
Roggenrola / Wellspring Cave / +1 EV
Sewaddle / Pinwheel Forest / +1 EV
Venipede / Pinwheel Forest / +1 EV
Cofagrigus / Relic Castle B4 / +2 EVs
Durant / Victory Road / +2 EVs
Sandslash / Relic Castle B4 (post game) / +2 EVs
Wow. Thanks.
FINALY! After a grand total of 72 Scythers (Anyone want one?) I have an Adamant one with Technician! In celebration of this acheivment which some how survived 3 months and 5 rage quits I will be training a team! So far I have : Mienshao, Metagross, Scizor, Terakion, Blissey. I really need something for my 6th member
Quote from: Clanker37 on July 26, 2011, 02:09:29 AMFINALY! After a grand total of 72 Scythers (Anyone want one?) I have an Adamant one with Technician! In celebration of this acheivment which some how survived 3 months and 5 rage quits I will be training a team! So far I have : Mienshao, Metagross, Scizor, Terakion, Blissey. I really need something for my 6th member
Togetic
He/she isn't really good, but he/she is the funniest to play with :P
^that's why you use Togekiss for actual usability. Just use one with Serene Grace/King's Rock/Air Slash. <3
Quote from: winterkid09 on July 25, 2011, 11:33:30 PMBad bad bad bad bad .
X) sorry you know when you have those moments when your hands just type a comment without your permission...?
Quote from: Clanker37 on July 26, 2011, 02:09:29 AMFINALY! After a grand total of 72 Scythers (Anyone want one?) I have an Adamant one with Technician! In celebration of this acheivment which some how survived 3 months and 5 rage quits I will be training a team! So far I have : Mienshao, Metagross, Scizor, Terakion, Blissey. I really need something for my 6th member
Your team has no 'mons that resist water/electric/ground/fighting type moves. So you could go with Gengar â'¸ Levitate, that way you can deal with ground and fighting stuff. If you do that then you have 3 'mons with the same weakness though; psychic type stuff. So if you choose Gengar you should use another 'mon instead of either Terrakion and Mienshao. Haxorus could be nice, but since you don't really have any water type 'mon you could also go for Kingdra. Kingdra doesn't resist electric attacks but he's still pretty good.
Quote from: Roz~ on July 26, 2011, 07:36:44 AMYour team has no 'mons that resist water/electric/ground/fighting type moves. So you could go with Gengar â'¸ Levitate, that way you can deal with ground and fighting stuff. If you do that then you have 3 'mons with the same weakness though; psychic type stuff. So if you choose Gengar you should use another 'mon instead of either Terrakion and Mienshao. Haxorus could be nice, but since you don't really have any water type 'mon you could also go for Kingdra. Kingdra doesn't resist electric attacks but he's still pretty good.
If you feel a bit more daring, get a Grass-type somewhere; those resist Water, Electric, and Ground.
Quote from: Clanker37 on July 26, 2011, 02:09:29 AMFINALY! After a grand total of 72 Scythers (Anyone want one?) I have an Adamant one with Technician! In celebration of this acheivment which some how survived 3 months and 5 rage quits I will be training a team! So far I have : Mienshao, Metagross, Scizor, Terakion, Blissey. I really need something for my 6th member
too many physical hitting types. needs moar special hitters.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on July 26, 2011, 08:20:19 AMIf you feel a bit more daring, get a Grass-type somewhere; those resist Water, Electric, and Ground.
Yea I thought about that too, but he already has Scizor and Metagross, so adding a Grass type in there... not sure it's a good idea. Unless he adds a 'mon like Heatran or any 'mon with the Flash Fire ability then it would be meh. And I don't want him to change all of his team either. x)
Quote from: Shadoninja on July 26, 2011, 09:03:39 AMtoo many physical hitting types. needs moar special hitters.
^This. That's why Gengar would be nice.
I still can't beat Red wtf >:C I'm really really tired of training at the E4.
Which one of his pokemon are you stuck on?
Lol in the old games doesn't he have Espeon? In HGSS he has Pikachu, Venusaur, Blastoise, Charizard, Lapras, and Snorlax.
I can't get a freaking cofagrigus to appear Gaaaahh
I guess I'll just leave it alone?
You will learn if you stick around.
Alright then.
Quote from: Nebbles on July 26, 2011, 12:53:48 PMI still can't beat Red wtf >:C I'm really really tired of training at the E4.
1. Request lvl. 100s
2. Receive lvl. 100s
3. Stop monotonous training
4. Challenge Red
5. ??
6. PROFIT
zubat's hard to train >: (
Quote from: SlowPokemon on July 18, 2011, 12:28:25 PMME, in my Emerald I have to raise a Zubat for my team... UGH LEECH LIFE
IKR
yeah it doesn't help that this zubat's mild natured(+sp atk, -def)
Lol! Mine (now a Crobat Lv29) is just a plain Docile nature, and I actually like those kinds of natures considering you don't hurt any of your stats. :P
meh. if i'm not using a stat, I don't mind reducing it. the only time I've ever had a tough time deciding which stat to reduce is mixed attacking tyranitar.
Or Spinda. When all of its stats SUCK. :|
Seriously. Base 60 in every stat.
...
WHY DOES GAME FREAK HATE SPINDA.
At least it's not sunkern.
Or Metapod. When you only know Harden and String Shot.........
But Metapod has a pretty ok defense stat. Sunkern has 30 base stats for everything.
Quote from: triforced1 on July 26, 2011, 03:30:12 PMBut Metapod has a pretty ok defense stat. Sunkern has 30 base stats for everything.
Sunkern evolves into a decent Pokemon. Spinda has no evolution.
This is true.
Quote from: spitllama on July 26, 2011, 02:21:28 PM1. Request lvl. 100s
2. Receive lvl. 100s
3. Stop monotonous training
4. Challenge Red
5. ??
6. PROFIT
It's in Crystal, though! DX I can't do much here BUT train!
Or buy a gameshark
Yeah, but Red is not that hard, even if you only have lvl 5X 'mons.
Agh I forgot you're using GBA. I think you've posted that 6 times now ha lo siento.
:I I must have shitty luck then. I keep getting OHKO'd a lot.
What's your team?
Togetic, Scyther, Sandslash, Furret, Jynx and Typhlosion. All around mid 50's.
...Umm...just asking...WHY WOULD YOU USE FURRET
Jynx's defence = terrible.
Also this
Quote from: SlowPokemon on July 26, 2011, 05:07:04 PM...Umm...just asking...WHY WOULD YOU USE FURRET
Furret's been my favourite for years. I always use Furret. :| But go ahead judge me I don't mind!
It depends on how lucky I get in the battle. -shrug- I'm getting up to Snorlax, but his Espeon can be brutal, so I'm trying to get Jynx stronger or some stronger moves to knock it out. Blastoise is iffy, seeing as how I have no electric or grass types, but Typhlosion has thunder punch, and he's almost at level 60.
I know this team kinda bites, but... they're my babies ;_; I can't change them now...
If you don't want to change them, then just overlevel them. But going against a water pokemon with a fire one just doesn't work.
what're their movesets then?
Yeah, I know, but I do have other team members to deal with Blastoise. I am getting bored of E4 grinding xD The ending credits are just "oh boy these AGAIN". But I'll try my best here... I'll be able to do it eventually.
Uhm... movesets...
Scyther - Swords Dance, Wing Attack, Slash, Fury Cutter
Sandslash - Earthquake, Slash, Toxic, Cut
Furret - Strength, Surf, Mud-Slap, Iron Tail
Togetic - Shadow Ball, Fly, Metronome, Flash (BEFORE YOU SAY ANYTHING - this has pulled luck as an accuracy reducer with Espeon)
Jynx - Powder Snow, Psychic, Dizzy Punch, Perish Song
Typhlosion - Flamethrower, quick attack, thunderpunch and hidden power (fighting)
Ahhh gen 2 movepools kinda blow :I
Hmm, let's take a look.
Quote from: Nebbles on July 26, 2011, 04:55:36 PMTogetic, Scyther, Sandslash, Furret, Jynx and Typhlosion.
Togetic - meh in most aspects. Didn't get all that great until Gen IV with the introduction of Togekiss and the physical/special split.
Scyther - good speed, good attack, but meh in other places. Not bad but needs something to back it up.
Sandslash - good defense, decent attack, alright speed, and ok special attack and special defense. Actually Sandslash is pretty solid as a Pokemon (and as a ground-type it's incredibly solid [/bad pun])
Furret - Umm...decent...speed I guess...and alright attack...but...quite honestly I'm having trouble finding much else that's redeeming about it, other than it's adorable design and pre-evolution.
Jynx - Very good special attack, and gets STAB Ice Beam and Psychic...but its defenses are severely lacking, especially considering its "meh" speed stat. An interesting choice to use, I quite like it but it doesn't work in many situations.
Typhlosion - Great special attack and speed, horribly lackluster defenses. Same old story. :P Great especially with Thunderpunch but you can't rely on it.
EDIT:
Quote from: Nebbles on July 26, 2011, 06:35:47 PMYeah, I know, but I do have other team members to deal with Blastoise. I am getting bored of E4 grinding xD The ending credits are just "oh boy these AGAIN". But I'll try my best here... I'll be able to do it eventually.
Uhm... movesets...
Scyther - Swords Dance, Wing Attack, Slash, Fury Cutter
Sandslash - Earthquake, Slash, Toxic, Cut
Furret - Strength, Surf, Mud-Slap, Iron Tail
Togetic - Shadow Ball, Fly, Metronome, Flash (BEFORE YOU SAY ANYTHING - this has pulled luck as an accuracy reducer with Espeon)
Jynx - Powder Snow, Psychic, Dizzy Punch, Perish Song
Typhlosion - Flamethrower, quick attack, thunderpunch and hidden power (fighting)
Ahhh gen 2 movepools kinda blow :I
Scyther has a solid moveset, except Fury Cutter (I hate the lack of Bug type moves in Gen II)
Sandslash - Great, but...GET RID OF CUT. NOW. GIVE IT SOMETHING ELSE. ANYTHING ELSE.
Furret - as good as it's going to get. Not bad, but its stats and typing hinder it severely.
Togetic - Hmm, not that great but Togetic doesn't really have many good options anyway.
Jynx - good, get rid of Powder Snow for Ice Beam if you have it and consider getting rid of Perish Song.
Typhlosion - pretty good all around.
There you go. :P Kinda.
Perish song is nice because iirc Red doesn't switch his 'mons.
From the look of it, you need more special attack moves.
Triforced1 - I do, yeah. What do you recommend?
Roz - I think he did when I used Perish Song. I can try again, because that WAS my main strategy with it, have Jynx come in and kill all of his Pokemon. >3>
For Blastoise, you need a hard hitting electric move. Typhlosion may be strong, but it'll get destroyed by Blastoise. For Snorlax, well, pretty much the only thing you can do is hit it hard and fast. Shadow Ball will work pretty well for Espeon. If you could get a good rock type move for Charizard then that will take it out pretty quick. Give Jynx Ice Beam like Slow said, um, Sandslash is good for Pikachu, and for Venusaur you can use Flamethrower.
Edit: I don't remember if there's any good physical fire type moves in Crystal, but Venusaur's defense is quite a bit lower than it's special defense.
Well then get rid of Perish Song, spam Lovely Kiss and hope you don't miss.
Quote from: triforced1 on July 26, 2011, 07:12:37 PMFor Blastoise, you need a hard hitting electric move. Typhlosion may be strong, but it'll get destroyed by Blastoise. For Snorlax, well, pretty much the only thing you can do is hit it hard and fast. Shadow Ball will work pretty well for Espeon. If you could get a good rock type move for Charizard then that will take it out pretty quick. Give Jynx Ice Beam like Slow said, um, Sandslash is good for Pikachu, and for Venusaur you can use Flamethrower.
Edit: I don't remember if there's any good physical fire type moves in Crystal, but Venusaur's defense is quite a bit lower than it's special defense.
Gen 2 = Special moves and physical moves were separated by type, so every fire moves are special while every fighting moves are physical.
Quote from: Roz~ on July 26, 2011, 07:15:35 PMWell then get rid of Perish Song, spam Lovely Kiss and hope you don't miss.
Gen 2 = Special moves and physical moves were separated by type, so every fire moves are special while every fighting moves are physical.
Oh. Well, then try flying type moves.
Quote from: triforced1 on July 26, 2011, 07:12:37 PMFor Blastoise, you need a hard hitting electric move. Typhlosion may be strong, but it'll get destroyed by Blastoise. For Snorlax, well, pretty much the only thing you can do is hit it hard and fast. Shadow Ball will work pretty well for Espeon. If you could get a good rock type move for Charizard then that will take it out pretty quick. Give Jynx Ice Beam like Slow said, um, Sandslash is good for Pikachu, and for Venusaur you can use Flamethrower.
Edit: I don't remember if there's any good physical fire type moves in Crystal, but Venusaur's defense is quite a bit lower than it's special defense.
There were no physical fire moves until gen IV. Up till then, there were just types that were physical and types that were special.
Physical types:
Bug
Fighting
Flying
Ghost
Ground
Normal
Poison
Rock
Special types:
Dragon
Electric
Fire
Grass
Ice
Psychic
water
That's why Pokemon like Sneasel were virtually useless until gen IV. :P
Also yeah he does switch :P
^oh yeah steel was phys and dark was spec
Isn't there a guy who teaches Flamethower, Ice beam and Thunderbolt to your Pokemon in Goldenrod outside the Game Corner? When does he show? I need to get Ice Beam on Jynx, and Thunderbolt to someone who can stand to Blastoise.
And Lovely Kiss... uh, I don't think there's a move tutor or anything that'll let me. =/
You don't really have any walls, so I say teach Thunderbolt to your fastest Pokemon. That's not Typhlosion.
Here's the list for the move tutor: http://pokedream.com/games/crystal/m_tutor.php (http://pokedream.com/games/crystal/m_tutor.php)
Edit: Take that back. I don't think any of your Pokemon can learn Thunderbolt :/
All right, sounds good to me. I don't think Typhlosion can learn thunderbolt, any way....
Anyway, does anyone KNOW when that guy in Goldenrod teaches your Pokemon those moves? Anyone?
Wednesdays and Saturdays.
Okay, thanks! So tomorrow I can get on the ass-kicking.
Aww yea.
I just hope I can beat him soon. I am getting bored. Really really bored. I wanna move on to Ruby already.
RUBY! :D
Emerald is much better though.
Have you played RSE before? The Hoenn region games are my favorite.
Worst Pokémon games ever. 'Nuff said.
Quote from: Roz~ on July 26, 2011, 07:41:35 PMWorst Pokémon games ever. 'Nuff said.
-_-
You'd better have good reasons for that remark.
What? I love Hoenn! And yeah, Emerald is better. You get to tag team with Steven Stone.. =7=
Quote from: Roz~ on July 26, 2011, 07:41:35 PMWorst Pokémon games ever. 'Nuff said.
I still disagree. They're very fun. I would rather them make a remake of this than of Black and White. :P
They're not my favorite anymore but they're still crazy fun, especially since they were my first Pokemon games.
Why can't they just do both, and continue the same pattern?
A third game in the Black and White series, and then R/S remakes?
I'm not really excited about the RS remakes but if they don't make the third BW game, I'm going to be sad.
I can understand for you, cause you haven't played BW. But for me...RS remakes would be better.
All those legendaries... Must resist hacking...
Hacking to get what? Legendaries?
Definitely. There's so many awesome ones...
So far I've only really cared for Genesect (haven't used it though) and Terrakion..
Victini needs V-Create dangit >:(
Keldio looks tiny.
Why'd they have to make it a pony? So much lost respect...
I know! It's so un-legendary-like.
Quote from: fingerz on July 22, 2011, 08:14:25 PMJust lost my 71-streak win in the Battle Tower (Pokemon Diamond).
...Cradily.
:o71!!! your patience has no end.
You know, I've always had trouble thinking of a decent moveset for a Swampert. Suggestions? (Lax nature, btw)
What for? Like Elite Four, Battle Tower, etc?
You're going to want some STAB moves anyway, so Earthquake is a must. Dive is better than surf due to Swampert's low Sp. Atk, and probably a move to counterattack grass types.
Four different move sets that are highly suggested: cursepert, mixpert, countercoat, and restalk. (http://www.smogon.com/rs/pokemon/swampert)
If you move it to the fourth gen the suggestions change a little.
Quote from: triforced1 on July 30, 2011, 09:48:41 PMWhat for? Like Elite Four, Battle Tower, etc?
You're going to want some STAB moves anyway, so Earthquake is a must. Dive is better than surf due to Swampert's low Sp. Atk, and probably a move to counterattack grass types.
SHE'S PLAYING RUBY D:
Nebbles, therefore disregard the comment about dive as it's a special move in third gen...
Also I suggest mixpert
My Swampert is a Toxic-Stall XD Works a bit and it's NEVER expected. Everyone send their Grass user in and gets a face full of Toxic. Then they're all like 'WTF?' XD It's quite funny to see them freak out
Mixpert sounds good to me, though I might play around with the last moveslot and see if I find anything better to suit it.
Finally getting around to training a Zoroark. It's Lv54 or 55 atm, going to raise it a bit higher so it learns Night Daze.
It has a Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk) and is Quick to Flee, which is pretty good... I'm gonna go with a special sweeper set, I was thinking:
Night Daze
Nasty Plot
Focus Blast
Flamethrower
I think I heard that set somewhere and liked it a lot, but I don't know how effective it's going to be... hmm...
Any advice? Oh, and I'm going to be using it on the Battle Subway, so do you have any suggestions for the rest of the team? I kind of want a Ghost type for the last spot so that the opponent will be tempted to use Dark and Ghost moves on Zoroark, to help keep it in play long enough to use Nasty Plot. I already have a Modest Chandelure Lv70 that's part of my actual team and knows Shadow Ball, Energy Ball, Flamethrower, and Psychic; should I consider that?
Please give advice on moveset/partners!
Your set is here (http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80413).
I'm assuming to assume you know how to EV train.
And yes Chandelure would be good. Some people like to use Jellicent since it does pretty well in OU, but the general idea is yes, keep the ghost/*insert type* poke.