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Title: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Mashi on December 15, 2011, 04:19:42 PM
The game is courtesy of Savvy-Sauce, a friend of mine on another forum.

It was the year CCXXIXIXCIXIVXIXVXIXVICXVCIVI (He uses Roman Numerals because he likes them more than numbers.  He also changed the system and made it ridiculously intricate.  It's frivolous.  Totes.) in Saucetopia (Formerly known as Earth).

"Master Sauce, I there are Wolves." said a servant of his.

So Sauce killed them.

But then he decided to revive them with Physics because things would be boring otherwise.

So then Sauce threw a bunch of people into a giant Candy Land board and there were Wolves.  He didn't really pay attention to whom he picked though and broke the time-space continuum by accident, but it's okay.

The first person he abducted found was vermillionvermin.  He was a vermilion vermin that was worth vermillion dollars.
The second was some random Dude.
The third was SuperFireKirby, a Kirby from some really bad Kirby fan fiction.
He also promoted environmental issues because he took blueflower999 (of them) too.
Then he found another Kirby from a bad fan fiction named shadowkirby.
He also found a llama that liked to spit so he called it spitllama.
Then he found a professional Wolf hunter named Jub3r7 and payed him to play Candy Land.
He also coerced his XXIIIIVXCth (Yes, these are done in Roman Numerals too) cousin, gzgregory, to play.
There was also some random foreign guy named davy and he let him play too because he was coll too.
He also liked birds, so he let (Big) Bird play.
Speaking of things he liked, he became obsessed with LOST and then resurrected the philosopher, but then he was mad because it wasn't the real John Locke, so he called him Locke (Faux) and then forced him to play Candyland.

Brutal Wolf Painter - Has painting powers (Paintings are not permanent and only last the Night Phase). Elects one of his/her voters to die.
Brutal Wolf Shaman - Has seer powers. Elects one of his/her voters to die.
Traitor - Gains seer powers at the end of day 3.
Hunter - Has seer powers. Must catch the traitor by the end of day 3. At the end of each day he/she submits a name. If that person is the traitor, they die immediately. If he fails to send the correct name by the end of Day 3, he dies.
Guardian - Powers fail on blues.
Brutal Human - When lynched, chooses a Player that voted for him/her and kills him/her.
Millwright - Is told he/she is Human.
Human
Human
Human
Human

1. vermillionvermin
2. Dude
3. SuperFireKirby
4. blueflower999
5. shadowkirby
6. spitllama
7. Jub3r7
8. gzgregory
9. davy
10. Bird
11. Locke (Faux)

PMs will be out shortly.

PMs have all been sent.  Night 1 ends Saturday at 9PM EST/8 PM CST/7PM MST/6 PM PST.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Locke (Faux) on December 15, 2011, 04:33:46 PM
Mashi, don't listen to vermin and Bird. They are just a couple of ignorant animals. You should take as much time with these role PM's. It shocks me how rude other new players can be.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Locke (Faux) on December 15, 2011, 04:35:42 PM
*as much time with these role PM's as you need.

I had fixed some grammatical issues before posting and forgot to retype that part at the end.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 15, 2011, 04:37:53 PM
I do not have my role yet, but I still find spitllama's inactivity to be very suspicious.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 15, 2011, 04:38:39 PM
Be quiet John Locke
I am so gonna win this
TWG let's go
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Dude on December 15, 2011, 04:40:08 PM
...Am I the only one who thinks this is weird?
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 15, 2011, 04:40:51 PM
 8)
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Locke (Faux) on December 15, 2011, 04:41:35 PM
Quote from: Dude on December 15, 2011, 04:40:08 PM...Am I the only one who thinks this is weird?
I can definitely say there are a lot of weird persons in life, friend.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Dude on December 15, 2011, 04:43:33 PM
...No, I mean that you 3 are acting really weird. Almost like you're the same person. =/
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Dude on December 15, 2011, 04:43:58 PM
...Or know each other really well.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 15, 2011, 04:44:41 PM
It is probably because I do not use conjunctions.

PMs seem to be coming out now. Human here.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Locke (Faux) on December 15, 2011, 04:45:00 PM
I was simply objecting to vermin and Bird harassing our host. I received good intelligence that they were harassing Mashi for their role PM's.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 15, 2011, 04:45:38 PM
We are all the same
Kindred spirits, working for
werewolves on nooses
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Locke (Faux) on December 15, 2011, 04:48:01 PM
I suggest that Bird get an avatar because I'm having difficulty distinguishing his posts from the other players'.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Dude on December 15, 2011, 04:50:11 PM
Use this one:
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F26.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_lk8u5gIIho1qjv1edo1_500.jpg&hash=d0379994b85638dca9f05d3db13d20bdaff33932)

It's super adorable.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 15, 2011, 04:51:57 PM
I think I found one that everybody can agree on.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Locke (Faux) on December 15, 2011, 04:54:43 PM
I understand what you're going through.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 15, 2011, 04:55:42 PM
Don't know if this works
but if the brutal human
knows who he/she is

He/she should tell us
Then we could set up specials
working together
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 15, 2011, 05:05:46 PM
Never mind about
claiming because Mashi said
brutal human does

not know who he/she
happens to be.  What else can
we try now instead?
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 15, 2011, 05:10:06 PM
There is not a lot we can do. We do not have a way to establish an alliance. The specials should just keep their heads down until the day phase.

It would also be beneficial for the human team if the other humans would be more active. If every player is inactive, we will just be blindly guessing when we lynch players. If the humans are active when the wolves are not... we will have an edge over them.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Locke (Faux) on December 15, 2011, 05:15:59 PM
I was about to suggest that the Hunter claim so the Guardian could guard him, but then I saw that the Guardian can't protect blues. This game has got tricky mechanics.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: spitllama on December 15, 2011, 05:22:38 PM
Ok so it's night right now right ???
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Mashi on December 15, 2011, 05:23:01 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Locke (Faux) on December 15, 2011, 05:38:04 PM
So I just read over the role list again, and it occurred to me that it is in the traitor's best interest to claim publicly. This is so that for his sake and for the human's sake, we don't waste a lynching on him. I propose that the hunter agree not to guess his name until Day 3. So the traitor will have until then to figure out who the hunter and wolves are, and then get the wolves to wolf the hunter.

All in all, it's best if the traitor claims openly, and if you've read through my reasoning carefully, I think everyone will agree that it's for the best.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 15, 2011, 05:40:02 PM
I agree completely. It is in the humans' best interest NOT to kill the traitor quickly, as he counts for the humans. And the wolves are obviously not going to kill him either.

So the traitor should definitely claim.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 15, 2011, 05:41:40 PM
Righty-o then.

I'm the traitor.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 15, 2011, 05:43:22 PM
well that was easy
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Locke (Faux) on December 15, 2011, 05:43:58 PM
Well then, we're agreed to a truce.

Now that that's done and settled, I suggest everyone get some posts in so that we'll have material to work off of next phase.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Mashi on December 15, 2011, 05:46:37 PM
New favourite TWGers now.

Everyone should post more in this topic and join the NSM chat!

To those who don't know, go here:
http://cbe004.chat.mibbit.com/
Click Server and enter "irc.drshnaps.com" without the quotes.
Place your nickname next to Nick.
Type "#TWG" next to Channel.
Then press Go and you're set!
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Jub3r7 on December 15, 2011, 07:36:31 PM
D:

The aliens are invading!
btw dude they're the ones that abducted hugo, gzgregory, and some others, too.

Mashi might have been an alien but that's okay because he's super coll.

Anyways, Mulan (let's get down to business!).
I guess we'll go with your strategy, John Locke, seeing as the traitor already claimed.

I'd go on chat right now except for the fact that it doesn't work on a 3ds, and I have to sleep anyways for final exams tomorrow.

Also, bird, it's amusing to have the same avatar as someone else but right now you're just going to confuse people when they're trying to differentiate between posts! I don't mind so much but I don't want other players to mix you up. :p
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: spitllama on December 15, 2011, 07:37:46 PM
I'm also a human. And like Jub, I can't go on chat
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 15, 2011, 08:21:57 PM
I encourage more people to claim to me.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Locke (Faux) on December 15, 2011, 09:07:53 PM
It's nice to see you've changed your avatar to something more suitable to your personality, Bird.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Locke (Faux) on December 15, 2011, 09:17:40 PM
Hey everyone, if Bird's avatar still appears to be mine, you may need to clear your cache/cookies.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Locke (Faux) on December 15, 2011, 09:55:06 PM
It looks like Bird chickened out and changed his avatar to something more comfortable. I hope those of you who saw it enjoyed it!
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Locke (Faux) on December 15, 2011, 09:58:51 PM
Courtesy of vermilionvermin for taking this screenshot:

http://i42.tinypic.com/ezg484.jpg
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 15, 2011, 10:01:14 PM
I don't know why people have begun to forge screenshots this early in the game, but I would appreciate it if it ceased.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 15, 2011, 10:08:41 PM
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi42.tinypic.com%2Fiz29uc.jpg&hash=2bba60ce6937bfadceac19e8c94d8895c7349db8)

wat are you talking about
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Locke (Faux) on December 15, 2011, 10:11:55 PM
I don't know about you, but I say it's time we take out 1 bird with no stones.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 15, 2011, 10:28:00 PM
You don't have the stones or the facial hair to live up to those words.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Locke (Faux) on December 15, 2011, 10:56:51 PM
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi705.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww52%2Fmatt_1987%2F8xlshl.gif&hash=7e4e1e376a530446f97f6fbbfd359cb83c855f54)

Wanna bet?
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: davy on December 16, 2011, 02:40:54 AM
No one should clame to vermin except for the wolves, because since vermin is working with the wolves your role will be revealed to the wolves.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: davy on December 16, 2011, 02:45:43 AM
I'm going on holliday at december 24th, so from that moment on I won't be able to be online. So let's see how far we can come before that day
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 16, 2011, 02:55:10 AM
Quote from: Locke (Faux) on December 15, 2011, 10:56:51 PM(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi705.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww52%2Fmatt_1987%2F8xlshl.gif&hash=7e4e1e376a530446f97f6fbbfd359cb83c855f54)

Wanna bet?
spoilers: you end up dying anyway

davy: it's not really a big deal as long as the hunter doesn't claim
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: davy on December 16, 2011, 03:08:25 AM
Quote<Bird> :|
<davy> do you have any idea who you would lynch day one?
<Bird> nobody is talking except for dumb old locke
<Bird> and that guy who talks in haikus
<Bird> but i'm sure a good lynch target will pop up
<davy> why are you so sure?
<Bird> because i'm psychic duh
<davy> And spitlama dude jub and I are talking too
<davy> only not so much as you guys
<Bird> why
<Bird> what are you talking about
<Bird> tell me
<davy> but your activity is really high for night one
<davy> I meant to react on "nobody is talking"
<Bird> that's because i'm so excited about being a wolf!
<Bird> i can hardly contain myself
<Bird> who should i kill
<Bird> well
<Bird> i guess i have to kill you
<Bird> since i just told you my secret
<Bird> woops!
<davy> seriously
<Bird> nope
<davy> I have enough time to post this in thread before you can kill me
<Bird> what if i killed you REEALLY FAST
<Bird> like extremely fast
<Bird> *whoosh*
<davy> Then you have to wait 'till mashi says the day is over
<Bird> oh yeah
<davy> You were right about a good lynch target popping up
<Bird> told you

Bird is acting strange

It is a big deal because we don't want the guardian to die by wolfing (if he claims to vermin) and if all the humans claim the wolves know who aren't human, so you shoudn't claim you're human unless you're not.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Locke (Faux) on December 16, 2011, 03:50:20 AM
Quote from: davy on December 16, 2011, 02:40:54 AMNo one should clame to vermin except for the wolves, because since vermin is working with the wolves your role will be revealed to the wolves.
I highly recommend against the wolves claiming to the traitor.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: davy on December 16, 2011, 04:05:28 AM
Why would you?

Sure, it wouldn't help them, but I think it also doesn't work against them.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Locke (Faux) on December 16, 2011, 04:21:22 AM
That is the last thing we need, the wolf alliance fully assembling. But since you've let the cat out of the bag, I guess the wolves will have caught on and will claim to the traitor anyway.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Greg on December 16, 2011, 07:05:28 AM
Wow that's a lot of new players.

Anyways, there's also the possibility that the wolves have fake claimed a traitor. It's a risky move, but feasible.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: EFitTrainr on December 16, 2011, 08:56:56 AM
What the crap is going on here.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Jub3r7 on December 16, 2011, 09:32:34 AM
It's called The Werewolf Game, shadowkirby.

Where people must be active in order to help the human team find the wolves.

Got it?  >:(
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 16, 2011, 10:14:17 AM
People who aren't wolves:
Me
vermillionvermin
davy

People who could be wolves:
everybody else
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: SuperFireKirby on December 16, 2011, 11:28:15 AM
Man, why don't I ever get to be a special? I'm always just dumb human. Anyways, holy poops, 4 pages. Pretty impressive people.

Also, the title of this game could not be any more true. I'll be in chat from now til about 3:30. And then I'll probably be on this evening.

And welcome new TWG players! You guys are all super awesome and deserve a bunch of monies. I have no monies to give, so you'll just have to make due with my compliment.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Jub3r7 on December 16, 2011, 11:30:27 AM
(They aren't really new)
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Jub3r7 on December 16, 2011, 11:32:12 AM
Oh except spitllama, I believe.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: EFitTrainr on December 16, 2011, 11:32:54 AM
Right jub, hence my posting here.
Also, I'm at school ATM, So, I can't go on chat. I will as soon as I get home, I promise!
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Dude on December 16, 2011, 12:43:45 PM
Quote from: Jub3r7 on December 15, 2011, 07:36:31 PMbtw dude they're the ones that abducted hugo, gzgregory, and some others, too.
That makes me :(.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: davy on December 16, 2011, 12:44:30 PM
Quote from: Bird on December 16, 2011, 10:14:17 AMPeople who aren't wolves:
Me
vermillionvermin
davy

People who could be wolves:
everybody else

How come you be so sure I'm not a wolf?

Quote from: Jub3r7 on December 16, 2011, 11:30:27 AM(They aren't really new)

What do you mean? I think vermin, bird and locke are pretty new.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: SuperFireKirby on December 16, 2011, 12:52:46 PM
New to the forum but not to TWG methinks.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: davy on December 16, 2011, 12:53:49 PM
Quote from: SuperFireKirby on December 16, 2011, 12:52:46 PMNew to the forum but not to TWG methinks.

Got it.

I'm in chat ATM, so I would like to talk to someone
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 16, 2011, 12:59:54 PM
I'm in the chat but I think it's a different chat.  That might be why nobody's there.

Maaaaaaashi lied to me.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: blueflower999 on December 16, 2011, 01:28:53 PM
Vermilion is a wolf. I just sense it.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: davy on December 16, 2011, 01:30:25 PM
Vermilion is most likely a traitor
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: davy on December 16, 2011, 01:31:33 PM
and btw, you should enter the chat
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: blueflower999 on December 16, 2011, 01:32:33 PM
What's the code? I'm not sure how to get in.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: davy on December 16, 2011, 01:34:20 PM
if you go to ninsheetm.com and click chat, you don't need to enter a code
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: blueflower999 on December 16, 2011, 01:34:43 PM
OK! Thanks! Sorry for sounding noobish.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 16, 2011, 01:38:27 PM
Given that everyone but Dude has posted since I claimed traitor, I think the benefit of doing so is near-gone.

I am not the traitor.  This was a ploy to see if any wolves would claim to me or if the real traitor would counterclaim me.  Neither happened, and the benefit of having my claim out there is gone.

Bird and Locke were there with me when I decided to claim.  They can back me up on this.  In fact, they were the ones who encouraged me to do so. 
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: blueflower999 on December 16, 2011, 01:43:46 PM
Your avatar looks suspiciously wolf-like.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: davy on December 16, 2011, 01:45:31 PM
Blueflower, you still didn't appear in chat
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: blueflower999 on December 16, 2011, 01:45:59 PM
...Really? I think I'm on. I see everything...
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: davy on December 16, 2011, 01:48:56 PM
click channel, and than twg
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: blueflower999 on December 16, 2011, 01:49:37 PM
OK! Thanks again!
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: davy on December 16, 2011, 01:50:03 PM
My chat with vermin

Quote<davy> Anyway, if the wolfs didn't connect you because of inactivity, they're most likely Spitlama and Blueflower
<vermilion> I think it might be a little quick to peg them as wolves, but it's certainly a possibility!
<davy> The wolfs could also be afraid of PM'ing you because you could be a human claiming traitor to reveal the wolves to the thread
<davy> If that's true, I still have no clue who the wolves could be
<vermilion> Given the fact that, after checking the thread, all but like two people posted after I claimed, I think it's more likely that they don't trust me.
<davy> all but one, only blueflower has claimed
<vermilion> wait blueflower claimed?
<davy> I meant he hasn't posted
<davy> sorry wasn't thinking
<vermilion> oh right.
<davy> Anyway, bird was acting strange in the chat with me
<davy> he just told me he was a wolf
<vermilion> That's strange, but I'm not sure if a real wolf would have said that!
<davy> It would be really stupid, but not impossible
<davy> wry did it a number of times
<vermilion> That's interesting.
<davy> If you reveal you're a wolf, anyone would think you're joking and thus believe you're not a wolf.
<vermilion> It's an endless cycle of reverse psychology
<davy> it really is
<davy> LOL blueflower posted that he thinks you're a wolf
<vermilion> lolololol
<davy> although you still can be one
<davy> that you fake claimed so that we would lose our hunter and you could form the allience between the wolfs and the traitor
<vermilion> How would we lose the hunter?
<vermilion> and how would I contact the real traitor?
<davy> If the hunter waits with guessing you untill day 3 and than guesses you but is wrong, he dies
<davy> and since you claimed traitor, you're most likely traitor or wolf, and then the real traitor can PM you
<vermilion> But let's assume the real traitor thinks I'm a human fake-claiming traitor.
<vermilion> If he doesn't counterclaim me in the thread, then the wolves might claim to me.
<vermilion> I would say their names in the thread, and he'd lose.
<vermilion> So the real traitor wouldn't claim to me if I were a wolf!
<davy> and that might be the reason why no one has claimed to you
<davy> but you're quite right
<davy> but you could still be killing the hunter
<vermilion> All right.  I'm not the traitor.
<vermilion> I explained in the thread why I claimed.
<davy> I see
<davy> has anyone claimed you?
<vermilion> nope
<davy> then you shouldn't have revealed you're not the traitor
<davy> untill someone claimed you or the phase ended
<vermilion> I didn't want the hunter to waste his guess.
<davy> then you should have claimed in day one
<davy> not in night one
<vermilion> I think if the wolves were going to claim to me, they'd have done it already.
<davy> you're right
<vermilion> The only person who hasn't posted yet would be Dude, and he must have a partner.
<davy> but now you're a perfect wolf target because you can't be the traitor
<vermilion> But I'm in the spotlight, so I might be guarded.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: blueflower999 on December 16, 2011, 01:53:01 PM
Lawl. He's totally it.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 16, 2011, 02:07:30 PM
why is night 1 lasting forever cant we just end the phase now
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: blueflower999 on December 16, 2011, 02:08:14 PM
That's what I'm wondering, too. There's probably a reason, though. Mashi always has a reason.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Locke (Faux) on December 16, 2011, 02:23:23 PM
What if everything that happened here, happened for a reason?
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 16, 2011, 02:24:17 PM
mr. eko dying didn't happen for a reason teh actor just quit

also where's mashi
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 16, 2011, 02:25:26 PM
Quote from: blueflower999 on December 16, 2011, 01:53:01 PMLawl. He's totally it.

Totally what?
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Mashi on December 16, 2011, 02:50:24 PM
Everyone who wants the Phase to end early, vote for me!
If there are 6 votes before 9PM today, I'll end the Phase early!
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 16, 2011, 02:51:46 PM
Mashi is a wolf.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Locke (Faux) on December 16, 2011, 02:54:25 PM
Mashi.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 16, 2011, 03:00:02 PM
I feel like the deciding factor should be whether or not the specials have sent their pms but whatever mashi
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: spitllama on December 16, 2011, 03:17:20 PM
I'm kind of just following the crowd for no apparent reason but Mashi
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Greg on December 16, 2011, 03:27:24 PM
It's winter break here now, so Mashi.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: spitllama on December 16, 2011, 04:59:31 PM
Uno mas por favor
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: EFitTrainr on December 16, 2011, 05:01:23 PM
*** Topic is Not Host signups.
*** Channel mode is +ntr
*** NSMGuest91 is now known as shadowkirby
<shadowkirby> So.
<shadowkirby> TWG.
<shadowkirby> discuss.
<Bird> i think you're a wolf
<shadowkirby> Why would you think that, Bird?
<Bird> because you're inactive
<shadowkirby> Not right now, I'm not. Did you see my post in the TWG thread? I was at school earlier.
<Bird> ooooo a post
<Bird> wait
<Bird> did you really just say "what is going on?"
<Bird> :|
<Bird> Is this your first game?
<shadowkirby> I'm guessing Mashi made several accounts as another experiment. 
<shadowkirby> So.
<shadowkirby> Have I exposed your secret identity
<shadowkirby> ?
<Bird> no, i'm a real person
<Bird> but i made a fake account
<Bird> i have another account on nsm
<shadowkirby> Oh?
<shadowkirby> And are you using it to play TWG>
<shadowkirby> Please Answer. ]

Bird, Do you know that that's against the rules...
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 16, 2011, 05:04:49 PM
Shadowkirby, why don't you want the phase to end?
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: EFitTrainr on December 16, 2011, 05:16:49 PM
Mashi.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: blueflower999 on December 16, 2011, 05:39:35 PM
Mashi
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Mashi on December 16, 2011, 06:01:14 PM
Brutal Wolf Painter - Has painting powers (Paintings are not permanent and only last the Night Phase). Elects one of his/her voters to die.
Brutal Wolf Shaman - Has seer powers. Elects one of his/her voters to die.
Traitor - Gains seer powers at the end of day 3.
Hunter - Has seer powers. Must catch the traitor by the end of day 3. At the end of each day he/she submits a name. If that person is the traitor, they die immediately. If he fails to send the correct name by the end of Day 3, he dies.
Guardian - Powers fail on blues.
Brutal Human - When lynched, chooses a Player that voted for him/her and kills him/her.
Millwright - Is told he/she is Human.
Human
Human
Human
Human

SuperFireKirby was attacked, but he survived!

1. vermillionvermin
2. Dude
3. SuperFireKirby
4. blueflower999
5. shadowkirby
6. spitllama
7. Jub3r7
8. gzgregory
9. davey
10. Bird
11. Locke (Faux)

Night 1 has ended.  It is now Day 1.  Day 1 ends December 18th (Sunday) at 9PM EST/8 PM CST/7PM MST/6 PM PST.

EDIT: blueflower999 dies a million time for taking the 9:00:00PM post from me.
EDIT 2: Okay, maybe it was my fault for leaving this open for 21 minutes.  But still!
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 16, 2011, 06:02:09 PM
OK then, everyone claim to SFK!
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: blueflower999 on December 16, 2011, 06:11:52 PM
Oops. Sorry Mashi. Well, glad you survived SFK. This is about to get interesting.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 16, 2011, 06:12:59 PM
People should get in the chat.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 16, 2011, 06:16:57 PM
I already claimed to SFK, but there's a legitimate chance he's the traitor.  We should get in the chat and discuss.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 16, 2011, 06:19:41 PM
The chance of him being the traitor is pretty much zero. The wolves would have to have figured out that he was the traitor, and he would have to have given the guardian a reason to guard him. The traitor is unlikely to have figured this out in a game this active, and if SFK was the traitor, he was too inactive to have pulled a trick like that anyway.

SFK is human and you should claim to him, human or special. In the meantime, I think we should lynch (or begin to lynch) an inactive player, to get them to finally speak.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: blueflower999 on December 16, 2011, 06:22:14 PM
I think it's sort of ironic how the really big people on this forum, like Jub, SFK, and Dude, are the least active.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 16, 2011, 06:23:26 PM
Dude  has no reason to be as quiet as he's being. I'd like to hear some of his suspicions as well as reasons why we shouldn't lynch him.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: blueflower999 on December 16, 2011, 06:25:17 PM
Bird because he claimed in the chatroom with Davy that he was the wolf.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 16, 2011, 07:02:07 PM
For the people who didn't realize I was joking in that log with Davey, here's a pretty important part of the log I'm sure you must have overlooked.

Quote<Bird> :|
<davy> do you have any idea who you would lynch day one?
<Bird> nobody is talking except for dumb old locke
<Bird> and that guy who talks in haikus
<Bird> but i'm sure a good lynch target will pop up
<davy> why are you so sure?
<Bird> because i'm psychic duh
<davy> And spitlama dude jub and I are talking too
<davy> only not so much as you guys
<Bird> why
<Bird> what are you talking about
<Bird> tell me
<davy> but your activity is really high for night one
<davy> I meant to react on "nobody is talking"
<Bird> that's because i'm so excited about being a wolf!
<Bird> i can hardly contain myself
<Bird> who should i kill
<Bird> well
<Bird> i guess i have to kill you
<Bird> since i just told you my secret
<Bird> woops!
<davy> seriously
<Bird> nope
<davy> I have enough time to post this in thread before you can kill me
<Bird> what if i killed you REEALLY FAST
<Bird> like extremely fast
<Bird> *whoosh*
<davy> Then you have to wait 'till mashi says the day is over
<Bird> oh yeah
<davy> You were right about a good lynch target popping up
<Bird> told you

Everything else is sarcasm or me just being silly.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: blueflower999 on December 16, 2011, 07:10:08 PM
Something tells me that you posting that might make your situation even worse.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Locke (Faux) on December 16, 2011, 07:31:25 PM
22:30   Locke   I bet he's a wolf trying desperately to make others look suspicious by calling them out on things
22:30   Verm   stop stealin' my ideas

Verm, this is pretty suspicious
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 16, 2011, 07:56:40 PM
Quote from: blueflower999 on December 16, 2011, 07:10:08 PMSomething tells me that you posting that might make your situation even worse.

That's silly. Is joking about being a wolf like... something that is never allowed here? Is it like saying bomb in an airport? Is there no room for humor or sarcasm?

Here is a list of players in order from most to least suspicious.

Dude
Locke (Faux)
Jub3r7
shadowkirby
spitllama
gzgregory
blueflower999
davey
vermillionvermin
SuperFireKirby
Bird
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: blueflower999 on December 16, 2011, 07:58:07 PM
I like it how you put yourself at the bottom. There's room for humor.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 16, 2011, 08:00:22 PM
I can see how it would be funny, but it's where anybody would put themselves. Unless you are somehow more certain that another player is more trustworthy than your own role PM.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 16, 2011, 08:09:50 PM
Also if it was unclear, those were my thoughts on the game (the list, I mean), rather than a summary of who is suspicious and who isn't. Those are the people I personally think are most likely to be the wolves, and at the bottom, least likely.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 16, 2011, 11:16:48 PM
Suspicion list:

7. Jub3r7 – I was going to give Jub a pass on inactivity because I've heard that he sometimes has internet connecting issues, but I saw him online tonight and no post.  I've heard that Jub is supposed to be one of the more active TWGers, and his inactivity this game surprises me!

4. blueflower999 – The accusations he's making make me think that he might be a desperate wolf.  I just checked last game, and he didn't do anything similar to this then.  I know he was killed Night 1, but he's been making those accusations this game.

2. Dude – Was about to be #1, but then I saw Jub3r7 around a lot tonight and I'm wondering why he isn't here.  I've seen Dude online less, so Jub goes at number 1.  I've heard Dude was one of the more prominent TWG players, but he hasn't been that active.

8. Gzgregory – There's a significant drop off from Dude to Gz.  This is mainly for inactivity and my general lack of a read on him.

5. shadowkirby – I'd lean human on him because he doesn't seem to be making any sort of new wolf mistakes.

6. spitllama – Haven't seen a whole lot from him, but my guess is that he's human.  I'm not sure why, but I'm getting the human feeling from spit more than I'm getting it from shadow.

11. Locke (Faux) – He seems to know what's going on and could be pretty valuable if he's human.  I haven't been able to get a strong read on him either way, but I'd put him below others because he's been contributing more.

10. Bird – Talked to him more than most, and I haven't seen anything that he's done which is particularly wolfish.  He was one of the people who was all gung-ho for claiming to SFK, so I'm pretty sure he's human.  If he's a human, I think he'll be very helpful.

9. davy – Seemed human when I talked to him.

3. SuperFireKirby – Could be traitor, but at this point I think we can trust him more than anyone else.

1. vermillionvermin – (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi39.tinypic.com%2F6oztx3.gif&hash=6a43751a0a8bd8b181f2bd5b8bea7250745c6838)
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Jub3r7 on December 16, 2011, 11:27:26 PM
I had to go to work, remember? I said that in the chat. :I
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 16, 2011, 11:42:03 PM
I'm not sure if you were online at work, but the thing that concerned me was that you were online for a lot of the night and I saw you post in at least one other topic.  Then I mention your name and less than ten minutes later, you come back with a response that you were busy.  It's a little bit suspicious, but I think it's the best we've got on Day 1.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Locke (Faux) on December 17, 2011, 12:11:56 AM
1. gzgregory - He seems to be saying very little. I know that he can be active in the chat when he wants to be, and so far I have not seen him in the chat this game.

2. Dude - I haven't seen much from him, but if he supposedly one of the best players in this game as I've heard, he has got some explaining to do about this inactive streak!

3. shadowkirby - I haven't seen enough from him to be able to get a solid read. Post more, please!

4. Jub3r7 - He seems to be putting in a solid effort in contributing, in spite of his internet troubles/work. Still, this does little to tip off to humanity.

5. spitllama - He has not said very much, but sometimes newer players need to take time to get into the flow of things, so I shall give him the benefit of the doubt, for now.

6. davey - He strikes me as a very composed and thoughtful human, so I am inclined to think that he is. However, it seems plausible that he could feasibly be playing this part as a wolf, so I shall rank him here.

7. Bird - He has been putting his thoughts forward, and seems generally contributive towards the human cause. Some have accused him of being wolfy with his sarcasm and jokes, but I don't think he's behaving out of character as a human. I am still somewhat wary of him, however, as he has been known to play a highly convincing human even when he's a wolf!

8. blueflower999 - Although I said earlier that he might be a wolf trying to make Bird look more suspicious by calling him out on minor eccentricities, I meant this more as a half-joking suggestion and not a serious accusation. He strikes me as more of an inexperienced human than an inexperienced wolf. There are marks which help one to differentiate the two. Generally, inexperienced wolves try to lay low rather than vocally confront other players.

9. vermillionvermin - He has been active, helpful, and agreed to the fake traitor claim plan, something I doubt he would do as a wolf, as that would draw too much attention to himself.

10. SuperFireKirby - He might be the traitor, but I think we can all agree that it is highly unlikely that he is a wolf.

11. Locke (Faux)
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Locke (Faux) on December 17, 2011, 12:18:49 AM
Oh, and gzgregory.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Locke (Faux) on December 17, 2011, 12:24:30 AM
Vermin has just pointed out to me that Dude hasn't been on since a minute after his last post, so whatever's keeping him from the forum most likely has to do with real life issues and not his role. So a switch in my list between him and Shadowkirby, and possibly with Jub3r7 as well, may be in order.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 17, 2011, 12:28:39 AM
I had forgotten about Jub being in the chat!

Anyways, I'm going to go with Blueflower over Dude.  Blueflower's behavior strikes me as odd because he was an inactive in the last game, and that's the only thing we have as history for Blueflower.  I'd normally say that his inactivity last game was a byproduct of getting killed Night 1, but he was very active in Night 1 of this game.  While in general new wolf would probably be quieter than the new human, I think that Blueflower's history would suggest that he would be the opposite.  I'll admit that my considerations of myself as a confirmed human and Bird as a likely human come into play.  He's being a little bit too accusatory based on how little he has as evidence for my taste.

Also, I checked out Dude's profile and the last time he was on was one minute after his last TWG post.  That means that his inactivity is general forum inactivity rather than TWG inactivity.  I put the two on different levels of suspicion because TWG inactivity is a purposeful avoiding of TWG, but forum inactivity's more likely than not IRL stuff.  Dude's definitely still suspicious, and I'd put him at #2 right now, but I think Blueflower's probably the better vote.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 17, 2011, 12:33:45 AM
If what my doppleganger says is true, perhaps I should give Dude the pass today, and instead vote for Jub3r7. Same reasons as for Dude, but his behavior is less likely to be explained by real-world events.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: davy on December 17, 2011, 06:39:04 AM
If the hunter claims/claimed SFK he could tell him who he seer'd so that SFK can reveal a persons colour.

Vote count at this moment

Jub (bird)
Bird (blueflower)
blueflower (vermin)
gzgregory (locke)

I'm not going to vote untill later today/tomorrow
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: blueflower999 on December 17, 2011, 06:46:59 AM
Quote from: vermilionvermin on December 17, 2011, 12:28:39 AMI had forgotten about Jub being in the chat!

Anyways, I'm going to go with Blueflower over Dude.  Blueflower's behavior strikes me as odd because he was an inactive in the last game, and that's the only thing we have as history for Blueflower.  I'd normally say that his inactivity last game was a byproduct of getting killed Night 1, but he was very active in Night 1 of this game.  While in general new wolf would probably be quieter than the new human, I think that Blueflower's history would suggest that he would be the opposite.  I'll admit that my considerations of myself as a confirmed human and Bird as a likely human come into play.  He's being a little bit too accusatory based on how little he has as evidence for my taste.

Also, I checked out Dude's profile and the last time he was on was one minute after his last TWG post.  That means that his inactivity is general forum inactivity rather than TWG inactivity.  I put the two on different levels of suspicion because TWG inactivity is a purposeful avoiding of TWG, but forum inactivity's more likely than not IRL stuff.  Dude's definitely still suspicious, and I'd put him at #2 right now, but I think Blueflower's probably the better vote.

Yes, I was killed night one. And I'm "inexperienced" because this is my first real TWG when I didn't get killed right away.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: EFitTrainr on December 17, 2011, 08:01:09 AM
I'll be on the chat later, ok?
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: SuperFireKirby on December 17, 2011, 08:48:29 AM
YOU CAN"T TAKE SFK DOWN THAT EASILY MUTHAFUCKAS. Thanks for all the claims of being human from all you guys. I'm not sure how that helps but alright. So Hunter can claim to me and I can convey the seerings through him, as has been said by many others.

I'll be in chat from now til a bit later today if anyone wants to join up. Day doesn't end until tomorrow so I don't much of a reason as to casting a vote this early in the game. I haven't been very active, to which I apologize and I'll try to come up with a list by later today after I get a little more with whats going on.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: davy on December 17, 2011, 10:30:51 AM
I have some question about the brutal human.

He doesn't know that he is the brutal, right?

If so, when he dies, how and when does he get to know if he's the brutal?
If he doesn't chose a person to die, than no one dies?
If he does chose a person to die, when will that person die?
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Mashi on December 17, 2011, 10:51:25 AM
Brutal Human and Millwright are both told that they are normal Humans.  When the Brutal Human is lynched, he/she tells me the name of a Player that voted for him/her and that Player will die the same Phase as the Brutal Human is lynched.  Another person must die by the Brutal Human.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: davy on December 17, 2011, 11:17:33 AM
Quote from: Mashi on December 17, 2011, 10:51:25 AMBrutal Human and Millwright are both told that they are normal Humans.  When the Brutal Human is lynched, he/she tells me the name of a Player that voted for him/her and that Player will die the same Phase as the Brutal Human is lynched.  Another person must die by the Brutal Human.

How does the brutal human know he's the brutal human at the moment he's lynched?
If the brutal human don't tells the host the name of one of the voters, is the one killed by the Brutal Human dedided randomly?
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Jub3r7 on December 17, 2011, 11:45:20 AM
The brutal human IS told that he's human.
It's the Millwright that is told he's human when he'll actually just be seered orange, appearing to be the traitor.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 17, 2011, 12:09:07 PM
I think davy's concern is that, if the brutal human is inactive and doesn't choose one of his voters, that it will be chosen randomly.  That's a concern I share.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Jub3r7 on December 17, 2011, 12:19:30 PM
then don't just lynch people because of inactivity! If I were a wolf, I'd be more active than usual to make sure that nothing went wrong, although I'd do just the same if I had a lot of time on my hands.

SFK, has everyone made a claim to you yet? If so, and if there were no counterclaims for the hunter or the guardian, then you can relay the hunter's seering results.

Speaking of which, if the hunter were to seer someone green or something, could it still be a wolf given that a wolf painted himself green during that same night phase?
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 17, 2011, 12:36:02 PM
I think it's a bad idea to let out the seering results unless it's a red.  Telling the thread that someone's green only makes them a potential wolfing target, and that's no good.  Add that to the possibility that any result could just be that of a wolf who has been painted green and I'm not thinking that it's a good idea to announce any non-guilty seerings.

And even if inactivity's not the only reason to lynch someone, odds are that we lynch someone inactive at some point.  I'd rather know what's going to happen if we do that.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Mashi on December 17, 2011, 12:54:22 PM
Quote from: davy on December 17, 2011, 11:17:33 AMHow does the brutal human know he's the brutal human at the moment he's lynched?
If the brutal human don't tells the host the name of one of the voters, is the one killed by the Brutal Human dedided randomly?
The Brutal Human is alerted that he/she is the Brutal Human after he/she is lynched.
If the Brutal Human is not present when the Phase ends, I'll wait a while for him/her to log on and alert him/her that he/she must choose someone to kill.  If the Brutal Human doesn't show up within a few hours, then yes, I'll choose the person killed randomly.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: SuperFireKirby on December 17, 2011, 01:49:23 PM
Not everyone has made a claim but there have been no counter claims for wolf or guardian. Its mostly inactives that have yet to claim.

But someone has claimed seer, and I have been informed that Vermilionvermin has been seer'd Red.

Get him.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: SuperFireKirby on December 17, 2011, 01:51:21 PM
WAITWAITWAIT. DON'T VOTE FOR VERM UNTIL TOMORROW IN CASE THERE IS A COUNTER-CLAIM FOR SEER. WE DON'T WANT TO INSTA AN INNOCENT MAN.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 17, 2011, 01:57:48 PM
I don't think Verm is a wolf.

A guy who randomly claims traitor night 1 seems like a pretty obvious seer choice. If I were a wolf, I would have capitalized on that knowledge by painting him red. Even if you don't believe in that painting scenario, you could think that the wolves would paint one of themselves green each night phase. In this situation, there are only two reds in the entire game, a wolf and the brutal human, meaning that there is only a 50% likelihood he would be a wolf.

So uh... let's not kill him.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 17, 2011, 02:04:50 PM
I'm honestly not surprised I was seered red, regardless of whether or not this is the real hunter.  Think about it.

I was in the spotlight for a lot yesterday.  If I were a wolf and I were any other player in the game besides myself, I would paint vermilion red (and then I'd lay low).

Conversely, any wolf pair with me in it would obviously paint me green because of how much I was in the spotlight.  I was a pretty obvious seering and painting target.

I think people can attest to the fact that I've done things no wolf in their right mind would do.  I claimed traitor in order to get a counterclaim.  Had I been a wolf, that would have only risked letting someone counterclaim me.

There's also the possibility that I was the miller.

Basically, there's a 50/50 chance that I'm a wolf if you're looking at it objectively, even if this is the real hunter (which I'll address later).   I could be the miller or I could have been painted red.  I think we can all agree that the most likely scenario is that I was painted red, meaning that there's a good chance I'm not a wolf.

Anyone who's talked to me can attest to the fact that I've been helpful and active.  When the evidence points to the fact that I'm most likely not a wolf, I don't think we should waste our lynch on me.

There's also a strong possibility this isn't the real hunter.  SFK had already said that the hunter hadn't claimed to him, and then he suddenly gets a claim with a red seering?  That's the perfect place for a wolf (or the traitor) to counterclaim hunter. 
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Jub3r7 on December 17, 2011, 02:07:55 PM
I have to go to work, be back around 12 (7 hours from now for timezone reference.)

And bird, you don't need to defend him until everybody's claimed to SFK.
As in, if you haven't claimed to SFK, do it now.

He's proved human because the wolves tried to wolf him. The only way he could be a wolf is if the guardian said "oh btw I'm guarding you tonight just so you know" and a guardian doesn't claim to a random person.

The fact is, SFK isn't a random person anymore. Claim to him, tell him what you got in your role pm, and then we can proceed with the game.

Also ninja'd by verm and also I'm rushing in this post because mom is waiting at the door for me.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 17, 2011, 02:11:17 PM
Quote from: Jub3r7 on December 17, 2011, 02:07:55 PMAnd bird, you don't need to defend him until everybody's claimed to SFK.
what

The probability of the hunter claim being fake is incredibly small, so I think I'll go ahead and defend him now.

Also, keep quiet about whether or not you've claimed to SFK. Yes, you should claim to him, but we don't want the wolves to be able to figure out who the seer is based on who has and who hasn't claimed.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 17, 2011, 02:13:12 PM
Also, I'm in the chat right now.  If people want to interrogate me, they should come and talk.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 17, 2011, 02:26:58 PM
Safety on Spitllama because I don't think Blueflower's a wolf anymore and I don't have a strong enough suspicion on anyone else to give them a second vote.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Mashi on December 17, 2011, 02:28:45 PM
I almost forgot to mention that I want everyone to PM me every single PM or chatlog they have in this game so that I can accurately examine everyone's performance.  Thanks in advance, everyone!

Also, everyone should visit the chat more frequently because this game is A+++++++++.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: blueflower999 on December 17, 2011, 02:30:11 PM
I was proven to have false suspicions in the chat, so I am changing my vote to Dude for now.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 17, 2011, 02:39:26 PM
Let's assume for a moment that Vermillionvermin was actually painted. What wolves here would be clever enough to do so? I know that Locke (faux) would, but what about some other players here?
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Dude on December 17, 2011, 03:24:41 PM
Sorry, I was up in Toledo shopping today, and guys, I have work at like 4 in the morning on weekdays so I'm exhausted by 5PM and can't stay up long enough to be super active.

So, what are the votes so far?
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 17, 2011, 04:05:17 PM
Bird voted for Dude then changed to Jub3r7
blueflower999 voted for Bird then changed to dude
vermilionvermin voted for Jub3r7 then changed to blueflower999 then safetied on spitllama
Locke voted for gzgregory
SFK voted for vermilionvermin

So the tally is:
Jub3r7 - 1 Vote (Bird)
Dude - 1 Vote (blueflower999)
spitllama - 1 vote (Nighthawk (safety))
gzgregory - 1 vote (Locke (faux))
vermilionvermin - 1 vote (SuperFireKirby)
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: blueflower999 on December 17, 2011, 04:15:06 PM
It would be interesting if we had a 5-way tie. A knife in the box situation, I assume.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Dude on December 17, 2011, 04:33:34 PM
Safety on Locke then.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 17, 2011, 04:34:40 PM
That isn't a good idea.  All it takes is one person to "misread" the thread and lynch someone.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 17, 2011, 04:35:47 PM
Sorry I was talking to blueflower.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 17, 2011, 04:39:03 PM
Safeties aren't really a good idea in a game where everyone just has one vote on them. I'm going to take things into my own hands and vote Dude.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: spitllama on December 17, 2011, 05:50:27 PM
Hey guys sorry I was flying back home from college! And quite frankly I am a really slow learner with these kinds of things. I wouldn't waste a safety (I don't even know what that is since the manual didn't say anything about it -_-) on me since I don't know what the hell I'm doing :P I'm letting this be a learning experience.

That being said.... I agree with SFK especially given vermilionvermin's cockiness at the start that "he" would win instead of us (humans) and that he was the traitor right up front.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Greg on December 17, 2011, 05:58:25 PM
Had some connection issues earlier today, but they're fixed now!
Going to throw a vote on Jub3r7 for being unusually inactive, normally he's one of the most active players.

Also spitllama, vermilion was probably joking.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Greg on December 17, 2011, 05:58:40 PM
Also the traitor claim was false.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 17, 2011, 06:30:54 PM
@spitllama:  a safety is when you aren't sure who you want to lynch, so you vote for someone who doesn't already have a vote on them.

When I made the comment about me winning, I hadn't receivedmy role pm yet.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: spitllama on December 17, 2011, 07:26:21 PM
See I suck at this :P

Dude
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 17, 2011, 07:44:43 PM
It's close between Jub and Dude for me, but I'm going to go with Jub simply because I find his reaction to being called out a little bit more wolfish than Dude's.  After I pointed out that he hadn't been around much, it only took him 10 minutes to respond.  I tend to think that Dude's inactivity was more IRL stuff than Jub's.  This is liable to change if anything else jumps out at me, but nothing has.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 17, 2011, 09:05:04 PM
jub
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Locke (Faux) on December 17, 2011, 09:35:24 PM
Gzgregory didn't respond to my accusation so my vote is staying for now.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 17, 2011, 10:01:49 PM
I had a chat with Jub.  When I asked who he'd like to lynch, he said me, which was not something I'd expect a wolf to say.  A wolf would be looking for any and all ways to survive.  Thus, I'm going to put another safety on shadowkirby.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Jub3r7 on December 17, 2011, 11:39:35 PM
Quote from: gzgregory on December 17, 2011, 05:58:25 PMHad some connection issues earlier today, but they're fixed now!
Going to throw a vote on Jub3r7 for being unusually inactive, normally he's one of the most active players.

Also spitllama, vermilion was probably joking.
You're less active than I am. -.- If that's your reasoning, vote yourself.  :P

Also discussed a bunch of stuff in the log with vermillion (including how I suspect him, explanation of inactivity, youngster joey called me to say that he tried to catch another rattata but failed, bird's unexplained bandwagon vote, the fact that he needs to change his avatar a little bit more than just drawing on his previous one).
It'd be nice if you or Locke posted the important parts of that log, and maybe sent the whole thing to me so I can use it for reference? I forgot to save it. :(

Speaking of which, what is your explanation for the bandwagoning, Bird_Away? We were trying to interrogate you about that but you were away and left shortly after we asked that. :<
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 18, 2011, 12:04:01 AM
Some of the log got cut off, here's the entire log.  I'll shorten this later in another post.  I can't find a way to spoiler the conversation, so for now this post will be massive.


Quote22:23   Vermverm   What are your thoughts on gz?
22:23   Jub3r7_   And then we came back and I probably made another post in TWG.
22:23   Jub3r7_   Oh, gz?
22:23   Jub3r7_   He's a hippocrit. >
22:23   Jub3r7_   Ignore the misspelling but
22:23   Jub3r7_   He's saying how /I'm/ inactive.
22:24   Vermverm   What do you think about his humanity?
22:24   Jub3r7_   Hang on, let me go back and read some of these posts.
22:24   Jub3r7_   I never read the post above mine from right before I left for work.
22:26   Jub3r7_   Oh and verm, if you're the brutal human and people start lynching you it'd be nice to know if you were the brutal human.
22:26   Jub3r7_   Can it hurt us for the wolves to know the identity of the brutal human?
22:26   Vermverm   I'm pretty sure the brutal human doesn't know he's the brutal human.
22:26   Vermverm   I'll PM to Mashi but I'm pretty sure I asked him that earlier.
22:27   Jub3r7_   I think it's in the thread.
22:27   Locke   "Brutal Human and Millwright are both told that they are normal Humans.  When the Brutal Human is lynched, he/she tells me the name of a Player that voted for him/her and that Player will die the same Phase as the Brutal Human is lynched.  Another person must die by the Brutal Human."
22:27   Jub3r7_   Oh,
22:27   Jub3r7_   Yeah, I found that in the thread right when you pasted that.
22:28   Jub3r7_   Or, rather, a different explanation by him.
22:29   Jub3r7_   Wait, I'm confusing myself, did I realize this earlier then forget about it?
22:29   Jub3r7_   Unless I made a typo.
22:29   Jub3r7_   Also there's not much of a chance that you're a brutal human, although there's a slight possibility that you were painted red.
22:30   Jub3r7_   Also, I presume this discussion means that the painting is done before the seering?
22:30   Vermverm   Well, the combined odds that I'm one of the two are greater than the odds of me being a wolf!
22:30   Vermverm   That was my impression.
22:30   Jub3r7_   That's a matter of opinion.
22:30   Jub3r7_   Impression?
22:31   Vermverm   I thought that the painting happened before the seering.
22:31   Vermverm   But do you think that I was less likely than most to be painted?
22:32   Jub3r7_   If I start randomly saying accusing things later in this conversation, ignore it and send me a pm of the chatlog the next day so I can see how stupid I was.
22:32   Jub3r7_   I'm tired.
22:32   Jub3r7_   Or, don't ignore it, just keep in mind that I might have no idea what I'm talking about.
22:32   Jub3r7_   Like, IF IT'S AN IMPRESSION THEN THAT MEANS YOU WEREN'T REALLY SURE SO YOU HAVE TO BE A WOLF RIGHT?
22:33   Vermverm   lol
22:33   Vermverm   (actually, it'd be the other way around)
22:33   Jub3r7_   I know. XD
22:34   Jub3r7_   Also the version of locke except with the moustache
22:34   Jub3r7_   the flying guy
22:34   Jub3r7_   except not realyl a guy
22:34   Jub3r7_   He just bandwagoned you, and that's something you should generally avoid.
22:34   Vermverm   bird-away?
22:34   Jub3r7_   Yeah.
22:35   Jub3r7_   It implies that he's using your reasoning, but I make people only vote if they have their own reasoning.
22:35   Vermverm   I didn't make him vote for you!
22:35   Jub3r7_   I know!
22:35   Vermverm   I think he should be pressed for an explanation.
22:36   Jub3r7_   I didn't say that, just curious as to why he didn't present
22:36   Jub3r7_   The explanation.
22:36   Jub3r7_   Bird-Away ??
22:36   Vermverm   well if he doesn't have one, then he might be wolf partners with dude.
22:36   Jub3r7_   Did he say how long he was going to be gone?
22:36   Jub3r7_   And why dude?
22:37   Vermverm   Dude has the second-most votes I believe.
22:38   Jub3r7_   "Gzgregory didn't respond to my accusation so my vote is staying for now.
22:38   Jub3r7_   That's his reasoning.
22:38   Vermverm   that's locke, not bird
22:38   Jub3r7_   Because him not responding makes him less suspicious?
22:38   Jub3r7_   I know
22:38   Jub3r7_   Wait did I change people
22:38   Vermverm   lol
22:38   Jub3r7_   Oh nevermind
22:38   Jub3r7_   Avatars
22:39   Jub3r7_   -.-
22:39   Vermverm   21:58   Vermverm   That wasn't the answer I was expecting from a wolf Jubert. 22:33   Vermverm   Anyways, now that Jub and Dude have been picking up on their activity, whom should I vote? 22:35   Locke   gzgregory 22:35   Vermverm   why 22:37   Locke   for the reason I gave earlier 22:37   Locke   and also because he didn't respond to it 22:37   Vermverm   Why does not responding imply
22:39   Vermverm   22:37   Vermverm   Why does not responding imply wolfitude? 22:38   Locke   Because it's a serious accusation and it's weird that he would just try to ignore it, as if to avoid bringing it up again so people don't remember it 22:38   Vermverm   Hmm...
22:39   Locke   bird-away get a new avatar
22:39   Jub3r7_   Also, there's a slight chance, Locke, that he didn't see your accusation.
22:40   Vermverm    would be a solid avatar for bird-away
22:40   Locke   Well there's always a slight chance of anything
22:40   Jub3r7_   When people "ignore" stuff I send them pm's with quotes of my accusations and demand that they respond!
22:41   Jub3r7_   Also shadow_kirby's inactivity partially screwed me over last game, twas why I'm specifically angry at him.
22:41   Vermverm   He was pretty active in the chat today.
22:41   Vermverm   Or I at least was able to talk to him in one.
22:42   Vermverm   I sent it to mashi, let me see if I remembered to save it.
22:43   Vermverm   I'll send it to you guys, but there's one part I'm going to take out because people were being dumb.
22:43   Vermverm   wait, this is a different log.
22:43   Vermverm   fffs i only saved one of the two.
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22:44   Jub3r7__   Also to finish explaining inactivity, I came back and made another TWG post or two and then left for work and came back very tired and might have forgotten about twg until 1 oclock, then I made a post in twg and went in the chat for a minute but then went off so my brother could read homestuck without the internet disconnecting every five seconds!
22:45   Jub3r7__   And then this morning I overslept and woke up at 2:33, I checked TWG and I don't remember whether or not I posted anything right awahy.
22:45   Jub3r7__   I was still tired from the sleep overdose and didn't see anything extremely important to add (although there's always something to add, twas just too tired to think about it.)
22:46   Vermverm   ok, the log was sent.
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22:46      *** Jub3r7__ is now known as Jub3r7_
22:46   Jub3r7_   And then I saw an accusation and was like "fiiine I'll post"
22:46   Jub3r7_   And then I played more HeartGold and checked email
22:46   Jub3r7_   And other stuff and then made a rushed post for TWG before leaving for work.
22:46   Vermverm   which starter did you pick
22:46   Jub3r7_   Totodile, duh!
22:46   Vermverm   
22:46   Vermverm   2nd best
22:47   Jub3r7_   Joey just called me.
22:47   Jub3r7_   lol.
22:47   Vermverm   how's his rattata doing???
22:47   Jub3r7_   XD
22:47   Jub3r7_   He actually was trying to catch another rattata but failed.
22:48   Locke   Hey, I was reading this log you sent me, and I was confused about something
22:48   Locke   Who is "axem"
22:48   Locke   ?
22:48   Vermverm   idk bird likes to call you that
22:48   [Wry]   Hey guys
22:48   [Wry]   Was Mashi able to fix his problem?
22:49   Vermverm   mashi has lots of problems, which one?
22:49   Jub3r7_   OH
22:49   Jub3r7_   Wait
22:49   Jub3r7_   Aren't axem and Locke two different people?
22:49   Jub3r7_   Because I thought there was an account by the name of John Locke as well as Axem.
22:49   Vermverm   i think so, but i think he played some joke on bird and now bird thinks they're the same person
22:50   Jub3r7_   Also, I prefer Jub over jubert.
22:51   Vermverm   ok
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22:52   Locke   My internet disconnected
22:52   Locke   01:47   Vermverm   how's his rattata doing??? 01:47   Jub3r7_   XD 01:47   Jub3r7_   He actually was trying to catch another rattata but failed. 01:48   Locke   Hey, I was reading this log you sent me, and I was confused about something 01:48   Locke   Who is "axem" 01:48   Locke   ?
22:52   Locke   Last thing I got.
22:52   Jub3r7_   Vermverm>   idk bird likes to call you that
22:52   Jub3r7_      <[Wry]>   Hey guys
22:52   Jub3r7_      <[Wry]>   Was Mashi able to fix his problem?
22:52   Jub3r7_      <Vermverm>   mashi has lots of problems, which one?
22:52   Jub3r7_      <Jub3r7_>   OH
22:52   Jub3r7_      <Jub3r7_>   Wait
22:52   Jub3r7_      <Jub3r7_>   Aren't axem and Locke two different people?
22:52   Jub3r7_      <Jub3r7_>   Because I thought there was an account by the name of John Locke as well as Axem.
22:52   Jub3r7_      <Vermverm>   i think so, but i think he played some joke on bird and now bird thinks they're the same person
22:52   Jub3r7_      <Jub3r7_>   Also, I prefer Jub over jubert.
22:52   Jub3r7_      <Vermverm>   ok
22:52   Jub3r7_   And then I was reading the log.
22:53   Jub3r7_   |<--   Locke has left irc.drshnaps.com (Q:- http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
22:53   Jub3r7_      -->|   Locke (Mibbit@shacops-89348ACA.asm.bellsouth.net) has joined #twg
22:53   Vermverm   he forgot 22:48   Vermverm   idk bird likes to call you that
22:53   Jub3r7_      <Locke>   My internet disconnected
22:53   Vermverm   that was first
22:53   Locke   Thanks
22:53   Jub3r7_   No I didn't, that's there.
22:53   Jub3r7_   "Locke>   Last thing I got.
22:53   Jub3r7_      <Jub3r7_>   Vermverm> idk bird likes to call you that
22:53   Jub3r7_      <Jub3r7_>   <[Wry]> Hey guys
22:53   Jub3r7_   inflection??
22:53   Vermverm   what
22:54   Locke   Bird is so gullible, falling for my jokes
22:54   Locke   Don't tell him I said that
22:54   Jub3r7_   People like to say Inflection whenever something's inside a thing inside another thing inside another thing.
22:54   Jub3r7_   Like, that book with the king who married women then killed them the next day?
22:55   Jub3r7_   The women managed to survive by telling him a story every night and leaving a huge cliff hanger for the next day.
22:55   Jub3r7_   And this kept going on and on until the king realized that he actually fell in love.
22:55   Jub3r7_   And those stories were actually told to the reader;
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22:55   Jub3r7_   a fisherman found a genie and the fisherman was like "this is like the story of ____
22:56   Jub3r7_   and then he told the story to the genie. :III
22:56   Jub3r7_   A
22:56   Jub3r7_   And that story had a cliff hanger too.
22:56   Jub3r7_   INFLECTION.
22:56   Jub3r7_   Also, my chumHandle for pesterchum (the chat client from homestuck that has been made into a real thing by fans) is hystericalInflection.
22:56   Jub3r7_   Abbreviated, it's HI.
22:57   Jub3r7_   Okay, this is how I am when I'm tired.
22:57   Jub3r7_   Don't think this is normal, okay? XD
22:57   [Wry]   [01:48:59]   [Wry]   Was Mashi able to fix his problem?
22:57   [Wry]   [01:49:12]   Vermverm   mashi has lots of problems, which one?
22:57   Jub3r7_   I posted that already!!!!
22:57   [Wry]   I'm offended on his behalf
22:58   Jub3r7_   Oh
22:58   Vermverm   'twas a joke
22:58   Jub3r7_   We all have a lot of problems.
22:58   Jub3r7_   I am an egotistical depressed person.
22:58   [Wry]   So guys
22:58   [Wry]   Cave Story, great game or best game
22:58   Jub3r7_   I'm a hyperactive 15 year old that acts 12.
22:59   [Wry]   Everyone thinks I'm older than I really am
22:59   Locke   How old are you
22:59   Vermverm   i think he's 4
22:59   Vermverm   did i break the trend???
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23:00   Jub3r7__   Also, my concentration level.
23:00   [Wry]   Locke, I'll never tell
23:00   Jub3r7__   It used to be not very great, but I could concentrate enough to read something.
23:00   [Wry]   But guess anyways
23:00   Locke   14
23:00   [Wry]   lolno
23:00   Jub3r7__   *like, hundreds of pages at a time.
23:00   Vermverm   17
23:01   Jub3r7__   But my concentration is getting slowly worse.
23:01   [Wry]   closer
23:01   Locke   18
23:01   [Wry]   Guys, when posting stuff for twg and it's a wall of text, bold the important points
23:01      *** Jub3r7_ quit (Ping timeout)
23:02      *** Jub3r7__ is now known as Jub3r7_
23:02   Jub3r7_   Er
23:02   [Wry]   Especially for logs
23:02   Locke   If it's a wall of text then it's all important.
23:02   Vermverm   http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=401
23:02   Jub3r7_   The problem is, I've gotten really off topic.
23:02   [Wry]   The super important parts
23:02   Vermverm   16
23:02   Jub3r7_   I'm distracted enough and then it's even worse at 2:02 in the morning.
23:02   Jub3r7_   So.
23:03   Vermverm   what prompted you to say that wry
23:03   Vermverm   nobody posted any new logs
23:03   Jub3r7_   If any of you used this log for evidence.
23:03   Jub3r7_   Make sure to bold the part about joey calling me.
23:03   Jub3r7_   Because that's extremely important.
23:03   Vermverm   It's vry important.
23:03   Locke   Joey who
23:03   Vermverm   joey's rattata joey
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23:04   Vermverm   http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Joey
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23:06      *** Jub3r7__ is now known as Jub3r7_
23:06   Jub3r7_   My rattata is in the top percentage of rattata!
23:09   Vermverm   all the rattatas are in the top percentage of rattata
23:10   Vermverm   am i still here my internet is going all weird
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23:11      *** Jub3r7__ is now known as Jub3r7_
23:11   Jub3r7_   Ahhh, much better
23:11   Jub3r7_   Hey, verm, Locke
23:11   Jub3r7_   If you have anything to add about TWG, say it now.
23:11   Jub3r7_   Or question me about, or things I need to post.
23:11   Vermverm   I don't really have anything else to ask.
23:12   Jub3r7_   And yes you are still here.
23:12   Jub3r7_   Locke?
23:13   Locke   My internet disconnected am I back yet
23:13   Locke   ?
23:14   Locke   Everyone's got internet problems.
23:14   Vermverm   yes you're here locket
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23:15   Jub3r7__   Locke>   My internet disconnected am I back yet
23:15   Jub3r7__      <Jub3r7_>   Yes.
23:15   Jub3r7__   That's last thing I saw, anything after that before I go to sleep?
23:15   Vermverm   no
23:15   Jub3r7__   Oh, okay.
23:15   Jub3r7__   Anyways,
23:15   Jub3r7__   Good night.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 18, 2011, 02:04:10 AM
Updated vote count:

Jub3r7 - 2 Votes (Gz, Bird)
Dude - 2 Votes (blueflower999 , spit)
shadowkirby - 1 vote (vermilionvermin (safety))
gzgregory - 1 vote (Locke (faux))
vermilionvermin - 1 vote (SuperFireKirby)
Locke – 1 vote (Dude)

People who should vote:  Shadow, gz, davy
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: davy on December 18, 2011, 02:57:04 AM
locke

Quote from: vermilionvermin on December 16, 2011, 01:38:27 PMGiven that everyone but Dude has posted since I claimed traitor, I think the benefit of doing so is near-gone.

I am not the traitor.  This was a ploy to see if any wolves would claim to me or if the real traitor would counterclaim me.  Neither happened, and the benefit of having my claim out there is gone.

Bird and Locke were there with me when I decided to claim.  They can back me up on this.  In fact, they were the ones who encouraged me to do so.

It seemed like Locke and Bird were aware of the fact that Vermillion wasn't the traitor, and just wanted to reveal the wolves to the topic. If so, I wonder why locke posted this:

Quote from: Locke (Faux) on December 16, 2011, 03:50:20 AMI highly recommend against the wolves claiming to the traitor.
Quote from: Locke (Faux) on December 16, 2011, 04:21:22 AMThat is the last thing we need, the wolf alliance fully assembling. But since you've let the cat out of the bag, I guess the wolves will have caught on and will claim to the traitor anyway.

Knowing Vermin wasn't the traitor, ther is just no reason for telling the wolves not to connect vermin. He should only want the wolves to claim him.

I think he just did this to seem human, which is exactly the thing wolves would do.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Greg on December 18, 2011, 08:25:35 AM
Going to switch to Dude for now, because that log makes Jub seem human to me. Locke's posts could have been a reverse psychology ploy, although worth keeping an eye on.

As for Locke's accusation, shenanigans broke my internet yesterday, and then when it was fixed and I came on, nobody was there but Bird-Away (he might be able to back me up on this), so I left after several minutes.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: SuperFireKirby on December 18, 2011, 09:55:59 AM
ALL PLAYERS HAVE CLAIMED. THERE HAS BEEN NO COUNTER-CLAIM FOR HUNTER.

therefore I shall trust that the hunter is legit.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: blueflower999 on December 18, 2011, 11:06:52 AM
Quote from: Dude on December 18, 2011, 08:46:10 AMLeaving for Columbus for 2 days. Bye!
If Dude is leaving for 2 days... It sounds even more suspicious to me.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 18, 2011, 11:14:47 AM
I'm going to go with Locke because I believe that it is the most substantive vote out there.  Let's look at the cases made against all other players who are getting votes:

Dude:  Was inactive and started being active.  This sounds like a typical Dude performance from what I've seen in my skimming of past TWGs.

Jub:  Was inactive and now is active.  Given his internet troubles, I'm not surprised he was inactive.

Me:  Most who have talked to me can conclude that I'm likely a human, and when it's more likely than not that I was painted red or the brutal miller, I think I should get the benefit of the doubt.  Claiming traitor isn't something a wolf would do.  Calling out this lynch for being a bad one isn't something a wolf would do, especially when I'd be next on the chopping block.

Gz:  I think this is a vote for inactivity.  Meh.

Locke:  I'm pretty sure Bird was the one who came up with the idea to have me claim traitor in the first place.  Locke may have had the original idea to have the traitor claim, but, let's face it.  No traitor would have claimed had somebody actually claimed traitor first and had a legitimate chance of fooling the wolves into counterclaiming.  Locke then sabotages the plan by encouraging the wolves not to claim to me.  That decreases the likelihood that the traitor counterclaims and decreases the likelihood that the wolves claim to me.  Had the wolves claimed, we would have won already.

When given the choice to vote between inactivity and suspicious action, I think we should vote for suspicious action.  Jub, Dude, and Gzg haven't done anything suspicious.  Inactivity might be a good reason to lynch, but we saw that Jub's inactivity was largely healed, that Dude's inactivity was not having time to even go on the forum (and now that seems to be picking up), and Gz's picked up on his activity too.

I wouldn't be doing this if there were a better option.  But there is.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 18, 2011, 11:18:33 AM
I can't believe I wrote "were" instead of "weren't".   :( :( :( :( :(

Anyways, I'll be in the chat for the next few minutes and would like to talk to someone!
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 18, 2011, 11:22:27 AM
Quote from: vermilionvermin on December 18, 2011, 11:14:47 AMLocke:  I'm pretty sure Bird was the one who came up with the idea to have me claim traitor in the first place.  Locke may have had the original idea to have the traitor claim, but, let's face it.  No traitor would have claimed had somebody actually claimed traitor first and had a legitimate chance of fooling the wolves into counterclaiming.  Locke then sabotages the plan by encouraging the wolves not to claim to me.  That decreases the likelihood that the traitor counterclaims and decreases the likelihood that the wolves claim to me.  Had the wolves claimed, we would have won already.
I think you're misreading Locke's actions a bit. I think by saying things like "The last thing we need is the wolves and traitor assembling," he was pretty much goading the wolves into claiming to you. I don't know why I can't think of a better analogy than this, but it's sort of like an electric-proof person who is about to be tortured saying "No, ANYTHING but the cattle-prod!" knowing full-well that the cattle-prod will be the thing that hurts him the least. The torturer (analogous to the wolves) will say to himself "oh, if that's what's most effective against him, I'll use that".

That said, I've been suspicious of Locke this whole game for other reasons, and don't really have a problem with him being lynched.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 18, 2011, 11:26:09 AM
Locke since Jub3r7 is acting a lot more human lately.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 18, 2011, 11:29:14 AM
OK I missed the second Locke quote.

Safety on davy because I'm back to square one!
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: blueflower999 on December 18, 2011, 11:30:31 AM
I have never seen people in TWG changing their votes so much. Have fun tallying them up, Mashi.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 18, 2011, 11:38:44 AM
verm quit changing your vote after i vote for teh same person plz
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 18, 2011, 11:51:18 AM
everything vermilionvermin is about to say is a lie just so you know
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 18, 2011, 12:02:35 PM
10. Bird – Seems to be acting weirdly.  He's not normally a bandwagoner, so the fact that he's bandwagoning my votes raises my suspicion of him.  There's also the stuff with the traitor.  I remember in a previous game with him he did almost the same thing:  came up with a brilliant plan which would help the humans but make one person look really suspicious.  Instead of doing it himself, he made me do it!  Here's a comment from him in the postgame of that game:
"That is to say that, yes, I would have done all the Vermilionvermin/Kritter stuff if I were human. Perhaps I even would have been the one to claim seer. I used the "I'm always cautious as a wolf," defense a lot this game, and there's still a grain of truth in it. Whenever I'm on the wolf team I don't want to due anything risky."
nice typo bird
But anyways, he implies that he'd be more likely to do these whole shenanigans himself if he were a human.  He also seems to be more cautious as a wolf than as a human.  That's something I can see him doing this game.
Basically the scenario he's talking about above is that he wants the real seer to claim and suggests to me that I claim seer in order to get the seer out.  I do so, and then I get killed by the vigi overnight because I claimed seer and he didn't.  I wasn't a wolf, but he was!

6. spitllama – If bird isn't a wolf, spitllama's his top suspicion.  Spit's been pretty inactive, and I'm surprised he put a safety (or vote without a reason, which is suspicious enough) on Dude when blueflower already voted for him.

4. blueflower999 – Bird seems to think he's a human, but now that I think bird's a wolf, blueflower would be a good wolf partner for him!  Blueflower seems to be extremely dedicated to his votes, even when they don't make much sense.

8. Gzgregory – About the same as dude, but nobody launched a bandwagon on him!!!

2. Dude – Inactivity is a bad reason to suspect someone when there's other reasons to suspect other people!  I tend to think that people like Dude and Jub have a good reason for their inactivity because they're regarded as better players, and aren't inactive in fear of making a mistake.

5. shadowkirby – Pretty inactive, though seemed human enough when I talked to him.

7. Jub3r7 – Seemed human when I talked to him.  Inactivity's a kind of bad suspicion when IRL stuff and revamped activity fix it.  The bandwagon on him seems to indicate that he's a human.

11. Locke (Faux) – I missed the whole reverse-psychology stuff, but it makes sense now.

9. davy – Brought up that stuff on Locke.  He seemed human in teh chatz.

3. SuperFireKirby – could be traitor, but probs isn't.

1. vermillionvermin : :)

this is not a lie
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 18, 2011, 12:21:13 PM
I'm going to respond to these EVIL ACCUSATIONS even though they're a lie. Especially that typo.

Quote from: vermilionvermin on December 18, 2011, 12:02:35 PM10. Bird – Seems to be acting weirdly.  He's not normally a bandwagoner, so the fact that he's bandwagoning my votes raises my suspicion of him.
I'm bandwagoning votes (unabashedly, I might add by the fact that I legitimately pointed this out myself), because there's a lot of people in this game I wouldn't mind seeing dead. Like, if there's a few votes on Dude, GZG, or Spitllama at this point, I'm going to throw in my vote to show that I support any of those lynches.

Quote from: vermilionvermin on December 18, 2011, 12:02:35 PMThere's also the stuff with the traitor.  I remember in a previous game with him he did almost the same thing:  came up with a brilliant plan which would help the humans but make one person look really suspicious.  Instead of doing it himself, he made me do it!  Here's a comment from him in the postgame of that game:
"That is to say that, yes, I would have done all the Vermilionvermin/Kritter stuff if I were human. Perhaps I even would have been the one to claim seer. I used the "I'm always cautious as a wolf," defense a lot this game, and there's still a grain of truth in it. Whenever I'm on the wolf team I don't want to do anything risky."
nice typo bird
But anyways, he implies that he'd be more likely to do these whole shenanigans himself if he were a human.  He also seems to be more cautious as a wolf than as a human.  That's something I can see him doing this game.
How am I being cautious this game? I'm "admitting" that I'm a wolf to complete strangers (who may not understand humor), and I'm bandwagoning tons of stuff. This would be downright sloppy if I were a wolf. And on top of all of that, I defended tons of people, saying that they were human. A wolf wouldn't do that. Hell, I even defended you when you were seered red! And this is how you repay me. :(

I don't know precisely what happened when we had the idea for one of us to false claim traitor, but I probably would have done it if you'd asked nicely enough. I definitely don't recall "making you" claim. I think you just rose to the occasion since you're suicidal.

Quote from: vermilionvermin on December 18, 2011, 12:02:35 PMBasically the scenario he's talking about above is that he wants the real seer to claim and suggests to me that I claim seer in order to get the seer out.  I do so, and then I get killed by the vigi overnight because I claimed seer and he didn't.  I wasn't a wolf, but he was!
Good times... :)
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: davy on December 18, 2011, 12:32:42 PM
Update vote count:

Locke – 3 votes (Dude, davy, Bird)
Dude - 3 Votes (blueflower999 , spit, gz)
gzgregory - 1 vote (Locke (faux))
vermilionvermin - 1 vote (SuperFireKirby)
Bird - 1 vote (vermilionvermin)

People who haven't voted yet: shadowkirby (don't expect he will vote), Jub (do expect he will vote)
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 18, 2011, 12:56:11 PM
After a lot of deliberation, I think Davy and Bird have convinced me to shift my vote back to Locke.

Davy pointed out to me that Locke's original post could have been an endless reverse-psychology ploy, and there's not a whole lot which can be gathered from it.

Bird pointed out that Locke's been acting differently in this game than he has acted in games prior to this.  When he's a human, he's generally a bit more bold and a lot more trollish.

Locke's playing this game a lot safer than he normally does as a human.  Generally, he's making jokes like Bird is now.  He's been acting a little bit off this game, and I think he's a better lynch than Dude.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: SuperFireKirby on December 18, 2011, 02:28:05 PM
So then Hunter has Seer'd VermillionVermin Red. There were no counter-claims for Hunter. So should we not trust that this is, in fact, a legitimate seering and lynch VermillionVermin? Is that logic not sound?

You can take your chances with Locke or Dude, or you can actually vote for a CONFIRMED WOLF.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 18, 2011, 02:30:53 PM
The painter likely painted me.  If not, then I'm the brutal human.  Even from an objective standpoint, there are explanations.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 18, 2011, 02:54:24 PM
Yeah, even if the painter wolf just painted himself, vermilionvermin is far from a "confirmed wolf". I think that if he was a wolf (who for some reason claimed traitor), he would probably have himself painted green, since he was so likely to be seered. And I think that if he was human, the wolves would recognize that he was likely to be seered and would paint him red to take advantage of that fact. Either that, or he's a brutal human. Or both.

But I don't think he's a wolf, and I don't think we should lynch him.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Locke (Faux) on December 18, 2011, 03:43:33 PM
In response to the accusations that I was trying to keep the wolves with my comment that they shouldn't claim: The sole reason I said this was to give the wolves an idea, to "let the cat out of the bag", so that they would claim. I thought that if I commented that I didn't want them to assemble, they would get the idea to do it. I figured they would think to do it anyway, but wanted to make sure they would by pointing it out. And frankly, I don't see how this could be an "endless reverse psychology ploy". I don't see how saying the wolves should not to claim to the traitor would have done anything to help me if I were a wolf.

Quote from: BirdThat said, I've been suspicious of Locke this whole game for other reasons, and don't really have a problem with him being lynched.
The only reason I remember seeing you give was that I wasn't "doing anything" or something along those lines. That seemed pretty hypocritical to me, because you hadn't been doing much more than I had at the time.

Quote from: VermilionverminBird pointed out that Locke's been acting differently in this game than he has acted in games prior to this.  When he's a human, he's generally a bit more bold and a lot more trollish.
I have tried to be a bit less erratic in this game, yes. I've seen that this forum is apparently not used to a lot of activity and joking around; Bird's exotically erratic behavior has just been serving to confuse the players here. Since this is a crowd who is apparently not very familiar with this type of behavior, I've been trying to make my behavior and actions more clear and easily understood.

Regardless, I don't necessarily think it's true that I'm always as bold and trollish as Bird is. I certainly don't recall being as erratic as he is in my last human game. I distinctly recall almost getting lynched by him while I was human because he thought I was being more helpful than usual, in the pirate game.




Gzgregory has given a satisfactory explanation in defense of my accusation, so I am shifting my vote to Shadowkirby.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Locke (Faux) on December 18, 2011, 04:04:25 PM
Look, I'm going to be straightforward here, I haven't been as helpful as I could be. To start with I was already in one game on another site, and it got hard to keep track of the two. Also, it's the holiday season, and things have been keeping me from being really as active here as I should be. I joined mainly as a favor to Mashi. If you decide to lynch me, then you can go ahead and do it, I guess. There are still 7 other humans to figure out the wolves, and I trust you're all in good hands with Verm and Bird, who I think are human. It's not like I'd be able to be really helpful if you kept me alive anyway.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 18, 2011, 04:06:54 PM
locke sucks

changing my vote to jub3r7 again.

I really think that verm was painted, and the only two people i think that would be likely to do that are jub3r7 and locke. And locke sounded pretty human a second ago. Unless someone can convince me that Jub3r7 was not responsible for verm's red seer result, my vote will stay on him.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 18, 2011, 04:28:48 PM
Back to safety on Davy.  This will change by the time the phase ends, but here's a vote to convey that I'm not ready to lynch Locke right now.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 18, 2011, 04:32:57 PM
We're currently discussing the lynch http://cbe004.chat.mibbit.com/ here.  I'm not particularly convinced for any lynch at the moment, so any good ideas should be brought up here!  We've got about an hour and a half.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: spitllama on December 18, 2011, 04:45:12 PM
What's the channel
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: blueflower999 on December 18, 2011, 04:45:56 PM
TWG I believe
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: EFitTrainr on December 18, 2011, 04:54:58 PM
DUDE
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Greg on December 18, 2011, 04:57:28 PM
Okay, wtf.

Going to safety on blueflower to take votes off dude while we discuss stuff.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: blueflower999 on December 18, 2011, 04:58:40 PM
Quote from: davy on December 18, 2011, 12:32:42 PMshadowkirby (don't expect he will vote)
Proven wrong. Thanks for voting, Shadowkirby.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 18, 2011, 05:02:25 PM
It was supposed to end in an hour!
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 18, 2011, 05:03:10 PM
take it back take it back take it back

give us one more hour

nothing is ruined, since you probably would have mentioned who was brutal'd later if axem was actually a brutal something
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Mashi on December 18, 2011, 05:06:27 PM
what are you guys talking about day is still going
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 18, 2011, 05:15:07 PM
I think the most solid vote is against Jub.  When bird was interrogating him, he seemed really...off.  It was nothing like what I had seen in the earlier chat, and it was the only behavior from someone which I would outright say was wolfish.

Quote16:39   Verm   I think the lack of a bandwagon on spitllama speaks to the greater likelihood of him being a wolf than jub or dude
16:40   Jub3r7_   The main evidence against me is that I'm less active than usual????
16:40   Bird   i'm voting for you because you're smart enough to paint verm
16:40   Jub3r7_   Actually, quite the opposite, if I were a wolf the first person I would paint would be myself.
16:40      *** gzgregory joined #twg
16:41   Bird   even if you knew that verm was going to be seered?
16:41   Jub3r7_   How would I know that?
16:41   Verm   Excuse my narcissism, but a lot of people were talking about me as a potential wolf.
16:41   Bird   Well, it was kind of obvious.
16:42   Bird   Yeah, I was positive Verm was going to be seered. I know that if I was a wolf, I definitely would have painted him.
16:42   Jub3r7_   Bird>   Yeah, I was positive Verm was going to be seered. I know that if I was a wolf, I definitely would have painted him.
16:42   Bird   I just said that!
16:42   Jub3r7_   :I
16:42   Jub3r7_   I know but
16:43   Jub3r7_   I can use the same argument against you???
16:43   Bird   You can, but I'm not a wolf so who cares!
16:43   Jub3r7_   And plus I have evidence.
16:43   Bird   Evidence of what
16:43   Jub3r7_   For that specific argument against you.
16:43   Bird   you think i'm a wolf because i'd have painted verm?
16:43   Jub3r7_   Meh, to tell you the truth, I was sort of surprised that vermillion was seered.
16:44   Bird   well for starters, if i was a wolf i would have killed verm n1 because he's pretty good
16:44   Bird   idk why the wolves attacked sfk
16:44   Bird   but apparently that was predictable too
16:44   Bird   because he was guarded
16:44   Jub3r7_   Unless verm is a wolf????
16:44   Bird   verm isn't a wolf
16:44   Verm   How does that explain anything?
16:44   Jub3r7_   You can't prove it, you can only provide other possibilities.
16:45   Bird   i'm quite certain that verm isn't a wolf though
16:45   Verm   My being a wolf doesn't explain anything.
16:45   Bird   maybe he's implying we're wolves together
16:45   Bird   O: O: O:
16:45   Verm   
16:45   Jub3r7_   OO
16:45   Verm   Anyways, I can't think of anyone more likely to be seered than myself.
16:46   Jub3r7_   Players whose experience is more known on this forum, such as me, Dude, or SFK?
16:46   Jub3r7_   Or, finding information on a player that otherwise wouldn't reveal anything like shadowkirby?
16:46   gzgregory   The fact that he WAS seered reinforces his argument...
16:47   Jub3r7_   The point is, gz, was that I didn't entirely expect verm to be seered since he claimed traitor.
16:47   Verm   That might speak to the fact that the hunter is Locke or Bird, but I think my shenanigans put me near the top of the seering list.
16:47   Bird   and then changed his mind
16:47   Bird   which is very odd
16:47   Bird   worthy of a seering in my book (unless I was there when we agreed to false claim (which I was)).
16:48   Jub3r7_   I just thought of another funny possibility that's probably not true but
16:48   Bird   anyway this is besides the point
16:48   Bird   i said that my vote will stay on you unless you can explain why verm was seered red
16:48   Jub3r7_   What if he was a traitor claiming human pretending to be a traitor and then was painted red by the wolves??? O:::
16:48   Bird   is there another player who might have painted him?
16:49   Jub3r7_   You, for one thing.
16:49   Bird   besides me
16:49   Bird   i'm the person you're trying to convince
16:49   Jub3r7_   Anyone?
16:49   Jub3r7_   I mean, why pick me, specifically?
16:49   Verm   I thought you said nobody would paint me red.
16:49   Bird   because you're intelligent and thoughtful
16:49   Bird   i don't have a lot of experience with the other players
16:49   Jub3r7_   Actually, I can't hold my concentration for more than 5 seconds.
16:49   Jub3r7_   like
16:49   Jub3r7_   Verm>   I thought you said nobody would paint me red.
16:50   Jub3r7_   I don't remember where I said that!
16:50   Jub3r7_   I almost failed math!
16:50   Jub3r7_   Math is my best subject!
16:50   gzgregory   Dude and Davy would definitely be capable of thinking of that plan.
16:50   Bird   what about you gzg
16:50   Bird   also dude wasn't really around
16:51   Verm   You said I wasn't a likely seering target, but that I was a likely paint target?
16:51   Jub3r7_   Oh yeah
16:51   Jub3r7_   Dude is going to columbus
16:51   Jub3r7_   Oh
16:51   gzgregory   bird
16:51   gzgregory   probably not
16:51   Jub3r7_   No, I said that I was surprised that you were seered at all.
16:51   gzgregory   in all honesty
16:51   Jub3r7_   Hey, I need to read the thread, I'm a little bit behind, bird.
16:51   Bird   :|
16:52   Jub3r7_   *reread.
16:52   Bird   Uh.
16:52   Bird   Okay.
16:52   Jub3r7_   As in, check back at 8:00 and then I might actually figure out someone to vote.
16:52   Jub3r7_   That's the reason I haven't voted yet;
16:52   Jub3r7_   I'm not going to vote if I don't have a good reason for it.
16:53   Bird   alright well
16:53   Bird   to be honest
16:53   Bird   i feel like you're acting super dodgy right now
16:53   Jub3r7_   Dodgy?
16:53   Bird   you kind of seem to be avoiding the questions
16:53   Bird   i feel like we aren't seeing eye-to-eye
16:53   Bird   and on top of that
16:53   Jub3r7_   No, I'm actually forgetting about the questions.
16:53   Jub3r7_   What was the first question
16:53   Bird   who would paint verm
16:54   Bird   besides you or i
16:54   Jub3r7_   I have no idea, because I don't remember everyone's posts, which is why
16:54   Jub3r7_   I'm rereading them.
16:54   Jub3r7_   I was in the middle of rereading when you asked me that question.
16:54   Jub3r7_   Also
16:54   Jub3r7_   I don't remember you asking any other question, that's another problem.
16:55   Bird   well we would be led off-topic
16:55   Jub3r7_   Did you actually ask other questions?
16:55   Jub3r7_   If so, repeat them so I can consider them while I reread the thread.
16:56   Bird   [18:41:17]   Bird   even if you knew that verm was going to be seered?
16:56   Bird   [18:41:32]   Jub3r7_   How would I know that?
16:56   Bird   which led us to explain how it was obvious that verm would be seered
16:56   Jub3r7_   I answered that, I didn't avoid it.
16:56   Bird   then you started accusing me for a while
16:56   Jub3r7_   Not really, I just asked you the same argument?
16:56   Bird   well this conversation still feels really disjointed
16:56   Jub3r7_   Ikr
16:56   Jub3r7_   I'm sorry... I don't know what it is
16:57   Bird   Well. Whatever.
16:57   Bird   Let's ignore that for a while.
16:57   Jub3r7_   Ask mashi
16:57   Bird   In fact.
16:57   Jub3r7_   About me complaining
16:57      *** Bird is now known as Savvy-Sauce
16:57   Jub3r7_   about how my mind is degreading.
16:57   Jub3r7_   *Degrading.
16:57   Savvy-Sauce   Let's get serious.
16:57   Jub3r7_   You're him.
16:57   Verm   oh snap
16:57   Jub3r7_   Oh dear.
16:57   Savvy-Sauce   I've only played one other game with you.
16:57   Jub3r7_   I know. And
16:57   Savvy-Sauce   And when it was your time to shine.
16:57   Savvy-Sauce   You proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that you were human!
16:57   Savvy-Sauce   With just a post, you had everyone eating out of your hand.
16:57   Verm   We might as well take off all the guises.
16:58   Savvy-Sauce   Such beautiful honesty... I'm not seeing any of that this game!
16:58      *** Verm is now known as Nighthawk
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 18, 2011, 05:28:08 PM
Updated vote count:

Dude - 3 Votes (blueflower999, spit, shadow)

Locke – 2 votes (Dude, davy)

Jub – 2 votes (bird, verm)

vermilionvermin - 1 vote (SuperFireKirby)

Shadowkirby – 1 vote (Locke)

Blueflower - 1 vote (gz)

Updated vote count.  I'm not sure why a lot of people are voting the way they are.  Some of them are safeties, and I understand that.  Odds are if you just bolded a name and didn't say why, I'm talking to you.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 18, 2011, 05:32:10 PM
I think we should definitely keep in mind the possibility of both wolves being inactive.

If everybody you talk to seems human, the wolves must be the people you haven't talked to. It's risky, but I'm going to place my vote on Dude for the time being.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 18, 2011, 05:41:42 PM
I'm pretty sure Locke's human, so my vote goes to Dude because I'd rather see him lynched than Locke.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 18, 2011, 05:42:42 PM
Another vote for Dude will trigger an INSTA so let's talk this out before anyone does anything hasty!

Come to da chat!
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Jub3r7 on December 18, 2011, 05:53:03 PM
Safety on Bird because I don't want to get a phantom and because I STILL NEED TO FINISH READING POSTS BLAAAAH
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 18, 2011, 05:58:33 PM
the chat says Spitllama.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 18, 2011, 05:59:14 PM
we got like 5 minutes left!!!!

also i would rather spitllama
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Jub3r7 on December 18, 2011, 06:00:29 PM
spit
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Mashi on December 18, 2011, 06:04:48 PM
Brutal Wolf Painter - Has painting powers (Paintings are not permanent and only last the Night Phase). Elects one of his/her voters to die.
Brutal Wolf Shaman - Has seer powers. Elects one of his/her voters to die.
Traitor - Gains seer powers at the end of day 3.
Hunter - Has seer powers. Must catch the traitor by the end of day 3. At the end of each day he/she submits a name. If that person is the traitor, they die immediately. If he fails to send the correct name by the end of Day 3, he dies.
Guardian - Powers fail on blues.
Brutal Human - When lynched, chooses a Player that voted for him/her and kills him/her.
Millwright - Is told he/she is Human.
Human
Human
Human
Human

Day 1 has ended.  Dude has been lynched!   blueflower999 has also been killed!

1. vermillionvermin
2. Dude
3. SuperFireKirby
4. blueflower999
5. shadowkirby
6. spitllama
7. Jub3r7
8. gzgregory
9. davy
10. Bird
11. Locke (Faux)

It is now Night 2 ends Monday at 11PM EST/10 PM CST/9PM MST/8 PM PST.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: SuperFireKirby on December 18, 2011, 06:05:44 PM
Who has also been killed?
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 18, 2011, 06:06:13 PM
yay
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 18, 2011, 10:27:40 PM
The ending time of the phase is inaccurate.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 18, 2011, 11:36:09 PM
it just ends at different time for different people

eastern time gets two extra hours!
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 19, 2011, 12:04:22 AM
that just means that i get more time to figure out whom to vote  8)
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Locke (Faux) on December 19, 2011, 03:39:10 AM
Hopefully the wolves don't live in the Eastern Time Zone!
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Locke (Faux) on December 19, 2011, 03:42:37 AM
Actually, it might be better if they do. I was thinking if they didn't live in the Eastern Time Zone, they'd have less time to think over the wolfings. But then, I thought, maybe this would give them less time to influence the lynching. Does this site have the insta mechanic for its TWG's?
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: davy on December 19, 2011, 04:10:29 AM
The voting behavior of all players (I don't want to start anything, this is just to have a reference).

Bird: votes for Dude because of inactivity, removes vote because he's explained that Dude had real life issues and places it on Jub because of inactivity, votes Dude to avoid KiaB, bandwagons with vermin by voting for Jub, removes vote from Jub for acting more human and places it on Locke for being uncharacteristic, removes vote from Locke since he sounded human and votes Jub because he beleves Jub would be clever enough to paint vermin, removes vote to vote for Dude who is a more inactive person, votes Spitlama (without giving a reason).

Blueflower: votes for Bird because he made a suspecious joke, removes vote due to that he was proven to be wrong about bird, then votes Dude (probaly because of inactivity)

Vermin: votes for jub because he was online but inactive, removes vote from jub thanks to his chat activity and places it on
Blueflower for a behavior change (being far more active), removes vote from Blueflower without giving a real reason (but that's not strange behavior) and safetys Spitlama, votes for Jub for his reaction of being accused of being a wolf, removes vote because jub didn't seem wolfish anymore and safetys shadowkirby, votes for Locke because he sabotages his own plan, removes vote from Locke because he missed his seccond quote and safety's davy, votes Bird for bandwagoning and a reference to an earlier game, votes for Locke because of the reasons Bird and I came up with together, removes vote because he wants to wait with killing Locke and safety's davy again, votes Jub because he reacted odd, removes vote and votes Dude so that Locke survives, votes Spitlama because the chat says so.

Locke: votes for gzgregory because he is inactive, removes vote because gz defended himself and votes for Shadowkirby

SuperFireKirby: votes for Vermin for being seer'd red

Dude: safetys Locke

gzgregory: votes for Jub because of inactivity, removes vote because of Jub's chat with Vermin and than votes Dude (probaly because of inactivity), safetys blueflower

Spitlama: votes for Dude (probaly because of inactivity)

davy: votes for Locke for saying the wolfs shouldn't connect vermin while he knew about the idea of vermin claiming traitor.

Shadowkirby: votes for Dude (probaly because of inactivity) (YAY YOU DID VOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Jub: safeties Bird, votes Spit (without giving a reason) but he is 29 secconds to late.

I just wonder, what did the chat say so that Spit was almost KiaB't?
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: spitllama on December 19, 2011, 08:15:28 AM
Because I couldn't figure out how to get on the chat :P My inactivity is my downfall
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 19, 2011, 12:51:14 PM
@Davy:

We agreed that the active players were all pretty human-sounding, so we decided to go for Dude, who was inactive. Then we brought up the idea of lynching Spitllama, who was inactive, and would probably stay inactive (unlike Dude who would come back in the future). But we couldn't get enough votes on Spitllama to create a clean lynch, so Dude was KITB'd.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: davy on December 19, 2011, 01:45:14 PM
I think it's a good idea that the hunter tells us next phase who he had voted (through SFK, of course). Then we know who at least isn't the traitor, so that we can help him find the traitor.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 19, 2011, 01:47:59 PM
SFK said someone in particular in the chat but I'm not sure if he wants everyone to know.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: spitllama on December 19, 2011, 01:52:58 PM
WANT TO KNOW
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 19, 2011, 03:23:29 PM
I think it's best to wait for SFK.

On another subject, the place to go to chat is the following link: 
http://cbe004.chat.mibbit.com/?server=irc.drshnaps.com

Then type in whatever name you want and change the server to "irc.drshnaps.com".

After that, click on the tab that says "Biolizard".

Then, type "/join #twg".

None of the quotations should be used.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: spitllama on December 19, 2011, 04:05:08 PM
K I don't get what I'm doing wrong

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1192.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Faa326%2Fspitllama1%2FPrintScreen.png&hash=8aa0fcf7ed1126f3b826c5af70bb212621f63f0e)
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 19, 2011, 04:10:09 PM
The channel should be irc.drshnaps.com.  Don't change the server.

My bad.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 19, 2011, 04:11:37 PM
After you do that, click on the Biolizard tab and type "join #twg"
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: spitllama on December 19, 2011, 04:34:01 PM
Thank you. FInally got it.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Mashi on December 19, 2011, 08:00:01 PM
Brutal Wolf Painter - Has painting powers (Paintings are not permanent and only last the Night Phase). Elects one of his/her voters to die.
Brutal Wolf Shaman - Has seer powers. Elects one of his/her voters to die.
Traitor - Gains seer powers at the end of day 3.
Hunter - Has seer powers. Must catch the traitor by the end of day 3. At the end of each day he/she submits a name. If that person is the traitor, they die immediately. If he fails to send the correct name by the end of Day 3, he dies.
Guardian - Powers fail on blues.
Brutal Human - When lynched, chooses a Player that voted for him/her and kills him/her.
Millwright - Is told he/she is Human.
Human
Human
Human
Human

Night 2 has ended!  shadowkirby has been wolfed!

1. vermillionvermin
2. Dude
3. SuperFireKirby
4. blueflower999
5. shadowkirby
6. spitllama
7. Jub3r7
8. gzgregory
9. davy
10. Bird
11. Locke (Faux)

It is now Day 2.  Day 2 ends Wednesday (December 21st) at 11PM EST/10PM CST/9PM MST/8PM PST.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 19, 2011, 08:09:14 PM
Well that could have been worse.

Still suspicious of (in order):

Locke (yeah, sorry)
Spitllama
gzg
Jub3r7
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: spitllama on December 19, 2011, 08:14:44 PM
Well now that I can use chat let's remove this suspicion Bird
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: EFitTrainr on December 19, 2011, 08:33:36 PM
Well, at least I was semi-active. I'd like to thank the newer players for saving TWG.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Locke (Faux) on December 19, 2011, 09:44:51 PM
Gonna go ahead and vote for Jub3r7 because there's a chance I won't be able to get on tomorrow! Not a big one but a chance nonetheless. He and Spitlama are the only ones who don't seem particularly human to me, but there's not much to go on with spitlama except "he's new". As Bird (or was it Verm) noted earlier, Jub3r7 seems like a player who would have been smart enough to paint Verm red.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: spitllama on December 19, 2011, 09:45:38 PM
I'm ready to chat to get this suspicion off my back >:(
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: SuperFireKirby on December 19, 2011, 10:21:18 PM
Thankfully it was no one important. Question is: why would anyone bother wasting a wolfing on ShadowKirby?
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: SuperFireKirby on December 19, 2011, 10:23:33 PM
In more important matters: Bird was hunted but was Not the Traitor.

Also, Locke has been seer'd Orange.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 19, 2011, 10:34:11 PM
Okay, well I kind of think that gzg is a wolf. Locke is now confirmed not to be a wolf, so he's out, and spitllama is being active and trying to prove his humanity.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 19, 2011, 10:50:33 PM
My current suspicion list:

1.  Jub - He's been my number 1 suspect since late yesterday, and the events of last night have done nothing to change my mind.  There's something off about Jub.  I can't put my finger on it.  He didn't act so nervous in the game I played with him prior to this one.

2.  Davy - I used to think he was human for sure, but his lack of a presence in the chats might make this shadowkirby wolfing make sense.  In addition, he's kind of been under-the-radar for almost the entire game.

3.  Gz - I really can't get a read on gz and I don't like it when I can't read people.

4.  Spitllama - He could be the wolf, but he's taking a huge risk by trying to engage the rest of the players if this is his first game.

5.  Bird - He's been pretty contributive when I talked to him, and I haven't gotten the "THIS GUY IS A WOLF" sense from him at all.

6.  Locke - He likely didn't paint himself orange.

7.  SFK - Could be the traitor but I think that if that were the case, he'd have released the names of the specials by now.

8.   8)  I think you know who goes here.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: davy on December 20, 2011, 03:04:41 AM
My lack of presence in the chats was due to the fact it was night phase, and there wasn't much to say unlike the night phase before that because that day I could talk about Vermin claiming Traitor.

That being said, I'm almost convinced Locke is the Traitor. Think about it. He sugested the Traitor to claim, but doesn't claim himself before he's sure he won't be hunted (which means that everyone agrees with him) but at the moment Bird comes with the plan of Vermin claiming Traitor, he thinks that might be a good idea to protect himself. afterwards, he decides to tell the wolves not to claim to vermin so that they would be revealed and he would have lost.

So I would like to hear from SFK if the hunter is still alive, and if he is, he should hunt Locke.

If he isn't, we have to prevent the wolfs from gaining a seccond seer by voting for locke like this

Quote from: BirdREEALLY FAST
<Bird> like extremely fast
<Bird> *whoosh*
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Greg on December 20, 2011, 07:38:30 AM
WELP
MY DNS SERVER FAILS

So yeah, I got kicked off the chat two days ago and haven't been able to get back online since till now. Frequent occurrence on my connection but this one was particularly long. :/

That being said, my suspicion is on Jub right now. He's acted less confident than he normally does as a human this game.

Bird... why exactly am I wolfy?
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: spitllama on December 20, 2011, 09:13:08 AM
The chat sessions you guys have posted have made me most suspicious of Jub by far, but that's subject to change.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: davy on December 20, 2011, 09:24:54 AM
Everyone remove your votes from jub

He's one vote away from being insta'd
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: SuperFireKirby on December 20, 2011, 09:32:51 AM
I would recommend not bandwagoning on Jub. Bandwagons often lead to stupid lynchings that the humans come to regret.

Jub does seem a bit off, but less confident? I don't think so. The suspicions surrounding Jub are this:

-he seems smart enough to paint someone
-he's not confident
-he's a nervous fellow

Not sure, but these don't seem to be the best of reasons for lynching someone. I'm not even all that sure how someone conveys nervousness through text.

LISTY LISTY LIST:

1. vermillionvermin - I was suspicious of him before, but the lynching of Dude helped to remove it. Most likely was painted, though it would be in the best interest to keep an eye on him.

3. SuperFireKirby - Way too sexy to ever be a wolf.

6. spitllama - Suspicious of this one. Been kind of laying in the background, flying under the radar. Joining in a Jub's mini-bandwagoning.

7. Jub3r7 - A little strange. Most likely human though.

8. gzgregory - Not sure about you, sir. I analyze you a bit more in time.

9. davy - Been very helpful as of this far. Has shown no reasons, in my view, to be a wolf. Playing the same way as he did the last 2 games(in both of which he was human)

10. Bird - Not the traitor. Could still be a wolf though, though chances are less likely.

11. Locke (Faux) - Is the the Traitor or Millwright. No reason to lynch him as if he's the Traitor he'll be killed be the Hunter, most likely. If he's millwright, he's just a good old human.

Overall, Spitllama is my top suspicion at this point.

ALSO REMOVE YOUR VOTES FROM JUB.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Greg on December 20, 2011, 11:11:38 AM
Safety on verm, then.

Nobody can read me?  :P
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 20, 2011, 11:34:16 AM
Safety onBird
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Jub3r7 on December 20, 2011, 11:39:48 AM
The reason I haven't been helping much is because I've been lazy and not reading everyone's posts!
And right now I should be practicing piano but since it looks like I'm about to be insta'd, I need to postpone that, even though I'm about to have a group lesson in two hours and perform in front of people with a song I need three hours of practice on.

1. vermillionvermin
False claimed traitor in order to get wolves to claim to him. However, a wolf could have done that just as easily as a human could have; this act doesn't prove his humanity in any way.
Then, he was seered red, although there's a likely chance that he was painted red. Earlier it was stated that he could have been the brutal human, but that can't be true anymore.

You throw your votes everywhere at the beginning although Bird says that's your normal behavior. :I

2. Dude - Brutal human, lynched day one.

3. SuperFireKirby- Most likely human, and if he isn't, then we're screwed because he knows the identity of the seer and the guardian.

4. blueflower999 - Brutal'd by Dude.

5. shadowkirby - Wolfed night two. :(

6. spitllama - After reading most of his posts, I say he seems to be human. I think he'd be acting much more nervous if he were a wolf in his first game; his posts just seem willing to help or just does what everyone else is doing, i.e. voting Mashi (or in this situation, me.) I suggest, spitllama, that you remove your vote for now. I'm a perfectly ordinary human and there's going to be at least one wolf in the group of people voting for me. And if there's at least one wolf that's not already voting for me, they're going to finish the blow and insta me. I'm not going to let that happen!

7. Jub3r7 - Stop twg and practice your piano for the group lesson you have in two hours!

8. gzgregory - Your posts suggest ideas or state things that have occurred, and they sound like legitimate ideas rather than random possibilities being thrown out by a wolf. You suggest to spit that verm was probably joking, explain your inactivity to defend from lock's vote, removes vote from dude when it looks like he's going to be insta'd.
Ideas are coming from yourself and not bandwagoning onto others, nor are you throwing out random ideas at us. I'm fairly certain that you're human.

9. davy - Posts are similar to the last game and the one before, where you were human. Also, all your posts contribute to the game in some way, either providing suspicions or logs for us to work off of. You also have enough sense not to insta me long before I get the chance to do anything!

10. Bird - Behavior earlier in the game was to encourage activity, including most of your votes. You also defend Vermillion later after he's seered red, also explaining to me that this is his usual voting behavior.
You also randomly pick me and Locke as candidates for having painted vermillion red. You do this immediately without even considering the possibility of him being a wolf (unless I missed something? Point it out if I'm wrong, please).
Here (http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=4025.msg130726#msg130726), you say that safeties aren't a good idea but then place a vote without any stated reason???
Actually, I found the only part where he suspected you at all: http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=4025.msg130806#msg130806
I really really really have to practice now so I'm just going to finish analyzing later.

11. Locke (Faux) - Traitor, unless you're the millwright, which isn't too likely. Basically, ignore everything he says. XD
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Jub3r7 on December 20, 2011, 11:40:42 AM
I have to go and practice! I have to play Rachmaninoff and a Beethoven piece in front of other people and neither of them are ready!
Sorry if that post sounded rushed! D:
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: davy on December 20, 2011, 12:37:08 PM
Quote from: Jub3r7 on December 20, 2011, 11:39:48 AM1. vermillionvermin
False claimed traitor in order to get wolves to claim to him. However, a wolf could have done that just as easily as a human could have; this act doesn't prove his humanity in any way.
Then, he was seered red, although there's a likely chance that he was painted red. Earlier it was stated that he could have been the brutal human, but that can't be true anymore.

You throw your votes everywhere at the beginning although Bird says that's your normal behavior. :I

2. Dude - Brutal human, lynched day one.



Uhm, Mashi didn't explain very well, but all wolves are brutals. So Verm could still be a brutal human if we have killed a wolf.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: davy on December 20, 2011, 12:58:30 PM
Bird

The chat explains my reasoning.

Quote<davy> hi verm
<Verm> hi davy
<Verm> What are your thoughts on Jub?  I'm not sure what to think about him.
<Verm> At first, I thought he was human, and then he's been acting pretty wolfy recently.
<Verm> Then again, he's probably one of the more contributive people here!
<davy> What do you mean by pretty wolfy?
*** Dude has left #twg (k)
<Verm> Well, there's the log that he posted.
<Verm> And then his most recent post implies that he knew that dude wasn't a wolf!
<davy> That's because Mashi didn't explain things very well
<Verm> hm?
<davy> The way Mashi discribed the wolves was: Elects one of his/her voters to die
<davy> While the Brutal human is described as: When lynched, chooses a Player that voted for him/her and kills him/her
<Verm> Oh I can see how that'd be confusing.
<davy> Thanks to that, it seems like those are two different abilities
<Verm> That makes sense.
<davy> So if we don't count in SFK and Locke, the players who still can be a wolf are:
<davy> Verm
<davy> Spit
<davy> jub
<davy> gregory
<davy> Bird
<davy> and I
<davy> If Dude is a wolf, there's one wolf among them
<Verm> And if not, there's two.
<davy> indeed
<davy> I think bird is suspecious for constantly bandwagoning with you.
<Verm> I could see him being a wolf.  He's generally more of an individual than that.
<davy> Spit jub and gregory has just been inactive
<davy> So there's not much to tell about them
<Verm> I'd say spit and jub have been picking up their activity.
<Verm> I'd lean human on spit at the moment.  I don't think a first-time wolf would be as outgoing as he has been.
<Verm> Jub I'm still deciding on.
<Verm> If I had to vote right now, I'd say gzg.
<davy> I think it's almost impossible for Dude and one of those 3 being a wolf
<Verm> really?
<Verm> why?
<davy> Because they're so inactive, that it's really strange they actually wolfed twice
<davy> Although Spitlama was pretty active in night 2
<Verm> I'll have to double-check that on posts, but it makes sense.
<davy> So that's why I think an active player is a wolf.
<davy> And because you were probaly painted
<davy> I think I'll vote for Bird

<Verm> I would have to lean more towards gz than bird for a wolf.  bird's seemed pretty human when i've talked to him
<Verm> then again, i have a history of trusting bird even when he's a wolf!
<davy> I know, but you shouldn't assume to easy someone's not a wolf
<davy> It caused jub to lose a number of times
<Verm> it's caused me to lose a number of times :(
<Verm> bird's a really good wolf :(
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: SuperFireKirby on December 20, 2011, 01:35:00 PM
Quote from: davy on December 20, 2011, 12:37:08 PMUhm, Mashi didn't explain very well, but all wolves are brutals.
orly? didn't know that.

also, I'll be in chat for all you lonelies out there
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Jub3r7 on December 20, 2011, 06:29:19 PM
Whoops. Scratch that, then, Dude might've been a wolf, meaning that Vermillion could still be the Brutal human.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: spitllama on December 20, 2011, 08:55:30 PM
Safety on SFK
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 20, 2011, 11:38:27 PM
I'm going to vote gz because I think the change in activity from the last game I played with him and this one is odd.  In that last game, he was a human, and in this game, I'm not sure of his role.  I think he's the most wolfy of anyone here.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 21, 2011, 12:56:37 AM
I knew you'd come around. They always come around.

Also we should still watch out for Locke. A wolf painting himself orange would be VERY smart, and it's not something I doubt Locke would do.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 21, 2011, 01:16:11 AM
The more I think about it, the more sure I am that gzg (yeah, I'll rebold my vote if I want to!) has to be a wolf. First he bandwagoned dude (but took his vote off), and earlier he bandwagoned Jub3r7. Pretty much every other player has something human going on for them.

1. vermillionvermin - Has been consistently helpful this entire game, and was seered red on n1 (when, if he were a wolf, he would have been seered green most likely). Also he just doesn't seem like a wolf.
3. SuperFireKirby - Wolfed n1.
6. spitllama - I don't think a wolf would spend so much time trying to get into the IRC, especially not on his first game.
7. Jub3r7 - Definitely picked up the activity after a talk with him in the chat.
8. gzgregory - ????????????
9. davy - Stopped the Jub3r7 insta, and has been helpful pretty much all game.
10. Bird - me
11. Locke (Faux) - Likely not a wolf who painted himself orange. Most likely traitor or millwright.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: davy on December 21, 2011, 06:12:31 AM
You forgot yourself bird.

Of course, you have recieved the PM, but all other players do not know what it says. So I would like to know why you are not a wolf.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 21, 2011, 08:23:00 AM
Lots of reasons!

1) Didn't insta Jub3r7 when I had the chance.
2) I defended Verm, even though he was seered red.
3) I was the first person to vote for Dude, and given the fact that he was brutal, there's a 2/3 chance that he was a wolf.
4) The people who have played TWG with me before think that I'm acting human.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: davy on December 21, 2011, 08:55:30 AM
1) I'm not sure wether or not you were online when Jub was almost insta'd, but you didn't post anything at that moment. Plus, if you had insta'd Jub, with our knowledge of you being an exprienced player you would be very suspecious, and we would have probaly lynched you.

2) Verm could be a fellow wolf. Also, there's no reason for you to defend him. He can do that himself. In fact, I think you did that to seem human.

3) You didn't vote for him to lynch him. You just wanted to hear his reasoning of not being active (that's what you said). And you didn't keep your vote on him. I guess you probaly voted for him to seem human ones again.

4) Vermin voted for you in day one. Also, he says you're a very good wolf and that it has happened that you were a wolf while vermin thought you were a human.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 21, 2011, 09:16:22 AM
1) Could have just said "oops" after the fact.
2) If I think a person is human, it is my obligation as a human to defend them (or at least give my opinion on the subject). Otherwise a person who sucked at defending themselves would be lynched, even if they were human. Obviously, Verm is capable of defending himself, but I think everybody should still express whether or not they think each person is a human or a wolf. And we've had WAY too many private conversations (which we're willing to share!) to be partners. Just ask if you want the logs!
3) Regardless of my reasoning, its a bit strange for the first vote of an entire game to be from one wolf voting for his partner.
4) And Vermin has voted for like, every player in the game by this point. And apparently I'm not that good if sherlock davy caught me. :VVVVV
5) BONUS ARGUMENT: Wolves aren't usually this gung-ho. I came charging into this game, guns blazing because I didn't have a lot to lose. A wolf would probably be warier of making mistakes. I'm not (which is why I admitted to being a wolf in that chat with you, remember!??!?).
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 21, 2011, 09:21:20 AM
ALSO, why are you suspicious of me at all?
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: davy on December 21, 2011, 09:32:22 AM
1) And nobody would ever come with the idea that you did not made a mistake, but that you're a wolf (And wouldn't that be very gung-ho?)

2) Ok, that's your oppinion, but that doesn't mean you're not a wolf (once again, you could have done it to seem human).

3) Which is the easiest way to seem human

4) But you are one of the only two which he had a reason to vote for other than inactivity. And if I catch a player or not doesn't have anything to do with ability.

5) And because you want to seem human, you don't do the thing wolves want to do. Wydryn claimed to be wolf a number of times while he was a wolf. Also, if you're not a wolf, you shouldn't make such a big deal of being accused of being a wolf by your joke.

ALSO:

Quote<davy> I think it's almost impossible for Dude and one of those 3 being a wolf
<Verm> really?
<Verm> why?
<davy> Because they're so inactive, that it's really strange they actually wolfed twice
<davy> Although Spitlama was pretty active in night 2
<Verm> I'll have to double-check that on posts, but it makes sense.
<davy> So that's why I think an active player is a wolf.
<davy> And because you were probaly painted
<davy> I think I'll vote for Bird

There's another reason why I want to vote you, but I don't want to reveal that in topic.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: davy on December 21, 2011, 09:41:52 AM
Oh yes, your bandwagoning makes you pretty suspecious too
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 21, 2011, 09:47:38 AM
I think you're just being silly now. "Oh, he's not doing that BECAUSE he's a human, he's doing it TO LOOK LIKE he's a human" is basically your explanation for all my actions. But really, most things I've done are as easily explained by me being a human as they are by me being a supergenius wolf.

Also, I don't think it's fair for you to eliminate inactive players as wolves because people were attacked each night phase. Sending in a wolfing is super easy. As long as one of the wolves managed to make a post on night one, it's a good bet that they'll also have sent in the wolfing PM. Dude could have sent the n1 PM, and the other wolf (who could be anybody) could have sent in the n2 PM.

Regarding the bandwagoning, well... I'll have to explain that a bit, because it's a complicated issue (even though the reason is pretty simple). At most forums with TWG, there is this negative stigma surrounding the idea of bandwagoning - voting for somebody because other people are voting for that person. This is usually because the bandwagoner is not paying a lot of attention, and thinks that it's the right thing to do because "everyone is doing it". And obviously there is a great deal wrong with something like that, because a person could get insta'd for stupid reasoning if there were enough people bandwagoning. HOWEVER... that is different from what I am doing. The person whose vote I usually "bandwagon" is vermilionvermin, and I do that because I agree with what he has to say. As I mentioned earlier, we've been IMing each other a lot this game, so we discuss the players. After he makes a vote, I look at his reasoning, agree with it, and then make the same vote that he did. I don't think there is anything inherently suspicious with agreeing, especially since I bring so many of my own opinions to the table. I mentioned that the reason I bandwagon is pretty simple. Well, it is. I'm lazy.

As for your other reason, I'd guess it would have to do with the identity of the specials (because I really can't think of any other reason you would feel the need to hide evidence from the public). If I voted for one, well... can you really blame me? After all... *snrk* ...I'm only human.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: davy on December 21, 2011, 09:53:34 AM
ok no vote for now.

I really have to come up with something new now.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 21, 2011, 10:40:02 AM
Spitllama: All of your posts seem to be either:

a) One line posts with a vote (usually a safety or bandwagon).
b) Apologies about your inactivity.
c) Questions about how to get to the chat (you seem to have figured it out, but I never see you still).

In other words, your posts don't have a lot of original ideas or content about the TWG in them. I think that's pretty suspicious! So I was hoping you should tell us who you're suspicious of, and why we shouldn't lynch you.

The same goes for gzgregory as well. Who are you suspicious of and why shouldn't we lynch you?
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: spitllama on December 21, 2011, 10:47:26 AM
a) This is my first game. I'm learning and usually don't have much more reasoning behind votes besides what other users have presented as evidence

b) I don't live on ninsheet ;)

c) I was on the chat for about 2 hours last night, where were YOU? Just ask Verm, Jub, Locke, or SFK

I wouldn't expect origianlity from myself, since frankly I'm learning from everyone's reasoning, so suspicious or not, it's the truth.

I was suspicious of-

1) Locke

2) You

3) Jub

Except last night's chat led to-

1) You

2) gzg

3) Locke

Locke is probably a traitor, so I'm less concerned about him. Gzg on the other hand has been much more active as a human in past games (according to Verm), so I'd be suspicious of his inactivity.

You seem very concerned with protecting Verm, so either you are POSITIVE he's a human (which you can never be sure of), or you're both wolves. Either way, I get the vibe from you.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: davy on December 21, 2011, 10:49:10 AM
Bird and I are in chat ATM, so if you like you can join
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 21, 2011, 11:10:04 AM
Quote from: spitllama on December 21, 2011, 10:47:26 AMYou seem very concerned with protecting Verm, so either you are POSITIVE he's a human (which you can never be sure of), or you're both wolves. Either way, I get the vibe from you.
If you guys quite accusing verm, I'll quit protecting him! But don't expect me to sit idly while somebody I think is human takes a lot of heat from the rest of you.

And of course I'm not positive he's human, but I'm pretty darn sure. And since this "verm and bird" are partners rumor keeps popping up, I might as well post these:

http://pastebin.com/1YNSw5Q9 (http://pastebin.com/1YNSw5Q9)

I don't think any wolves are insane enough to fake that many hours of IM conversation!
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 21, 2011, 12:58:16 PM
[13:58:47]   -->|   spitllama (Mibbit@shacops-636970D9.bendbroadband.com) has joined #twg
[14:03:06]   |<--   davy has left irc.drshnaps.com (Q:- NSM Chatroom)
[14:09:20]   spitllama   Who are your suspicions Bird
[14:16:27]   <--|   spitllama has left #twg

18 minutes, come on, you can do better than that! I was in the shower!

Here are my suspicions in order from most likely to be a wolf to least likely to be a wolf.

1. spitllama
2. gzgregory
3. Jub3r7
4. davy
5. Locke (Faux)
6. vermilionvermin
7. SuperFireKirby
8. Bird

But this list is subject to change. I'm actually about to reread the thread.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 21, 2011, 01:34:51 PM
Hey guys, what if Dude was the brutal human and blueflower999 was a wolf! How crazy would that be!

And I reread the thread and still can't decide between gzg and spitllama. I think this quote makes Jub3r7 seem more human though.

Quote"if the hunter were to seer someone green or something, could it still be a wolf given that a wolf painted himself green during that same night phase?"

Unless its a super tricky move by the wolf-genius Jub3r7.

For now I'll stick with spitllama though, since he seems less likely to be a special than gzg.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 21, 2011, 01:35:12 PM
d'oh

spitllama
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: spitllama on December 21, 2011, 01:50:39 PM
I am definitely not a wolf. Why would I try to be active in the first place? I went to your chat, you weren't there. So d'oh is quite right. I gave you answers to your questions on the last page, what now?
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 21, 2011, 01:56:01 PM
[15:27:05]   -->|   spitllama (Mibbit@shacops-636970D9.bendbroadband.com) has joined #twg
[15:28:17]   Mr_Bird   hi
[15:28:53]   davy   hi spit
[15:29:50]   Mr_Bird   is jubert a good wolf?
[15:31:01]   davy   I dont know if he's been a wolf already
[15:31:10]   davy   I've never played against him as wolf
[15:31:26]   Mr_Bird   alright well
[15:31:29]   Mr_Bird   earlier, he asked:
[15:31:39]   Mr_Bird   "if the hunter were to seer someone green or something, could it still be a wolf given that a wolf painted himself green during that same night phase?"
[15:31:48]   Mr_Bird   isn't that like... a really obvious question
[15:31:54]   Mr_Bird   the entire point of the painter is to mess up seer results
[15:32:13]   Mr_Bird   and i was wondering if it was an attempt to look humna
[15:32:14]   Mr_Bird   human*
[15:32:34]   davy   I don't think we have played with a painter that often
[15:32:40]   davy   so I can understeand
[15:43:46]   |<--   spitllama has left irc.drshnaps.com (Q:- http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)

 :-\
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: davy on December 21, 2011, 01:59:18 PM
I don't have any idea who to vote.

So safety on davy
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 21, 2011, 02:00:40 PM
spitllama: If that last post wasn't clear, when you came back to the chat when davy and I were both active, you said nothing then left. Kinda suspect.

And even though you responded to my questions, you didn't respond to my response. I'm your top suspicion, you say? Still? Why? I already proved that Verm and I couldn't be wolves together. The only other explanation is that I'm a human trying to defend another player who I believe is human. (Or a wolf who is trying to look human by needlessly defending a human, which would be pretty counterproductive and unlikely.)

So who do you suspect now and why?
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 21, 2011, 02:45:59 PM
[16:04:24]   -->|   spitllama (Mibbit@shacops-636970D9.bendbroadband.com) has joined #twg
[16:04:44]   spitllama   You there
[16:04:56]   Mr_Bird   hi
[16:05:08]   Mr_Bird   why didn't you say anything last time!
[16:05:26]   spitllama   I left the computer. Sorry
[16:05:45]   spitllama   So, use your jedi mindtricks
[16:06:08]   spitllama   I intend to remove all suspicion of myself by answering your questions like the human I am
[16:06:41]   Mr_Bird   uh
[16:06:45]   Mr_Bird   okay
[16:06:48]   Mr_Bird   who are the wolves
[16:07:19]   spitllama   I think gzg is >.<
[16:07:40]   Mr_Bird   who else
[16:08:32]   spitllama   Hmm well either Locke is human or he's the traitor so not him, verm and yourself are one or the other as a pair
[16:08:41]   spitllama   I'm not sure about davy, he's kind of in and out
[16:09:19]   Mr_Bird   err... so you don't think dude was a wolf?
[16:09:53]   spitllama   Of course, but he's out so who cares
[16:11:27]   Mr_Bird   alright, i asked the question weirdly
[16:11:29]   Mr_Bird   let me rephrase
[16:11:43]   Mr_Bird   this game has two wolves who may be alive or dead: who are they (i just want two names!)
[16:12:13]   spitllama   Wait there are only two wolves? I thought it was 50/50
[16:12:59]   Mr_Bird   what do you mean 50/50
[16:13:28]   spitllama   Like half of the players are brutals and half of the players are human
[16:13:42]   Mr_Bird   um... not really
[16:13:50]   Mr_Bird   If you look at the first post in the game thread, you'll see a list of roles.
[16:13:58]   Mr_Bird   http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=4025.msg130460#msg130460
[16:14:13]   Mr_Bird   every person in the game gets one of those roles, so that all of the roles are taken by one of the players who signed up
[16:14:19]   Mr_Bird   that means that there will be two wolves
[16:14:29]   Mr_Bird   (who, when lynched, cause another player to die, since they're both brutal wolves)
[16:14:45]   Mr_Bird   and there's also a brutal human, who will cause a person to randomly die when they are lynched
[16:15:26]   spitllama   Ok. I see. Then I guess Dude and davy/gzg
[16:16:32]   Mr_Bird   What makes you think Dude was a wolf rather than the brutal human?
[16:18:58]   spitllama   Cause he posted a grand total of 2 things, and he's one of the most active of the regular users on ninsheet
[16:19:34]   Mr_Bird   You don't think he had real life activities preventing him from posting?
[16:19:57]   spitllama   No, because he was posting on the ninsheet main site >.<
[16:20:52]   Mr_Bird   Fair enough.
[16:20:54]   spitllama   Why what do you think
[16:20:57]   Mr_Bird   So why do you suspect Davy then>
[16:21:11]   spitllama   Just cause I don't know much about him
[16:21:21]   spitllama   I would probably apply a safety to him at most
[16:21:42]   Mr_Bird   okay, so you think that the most likely wolf pairing is gzg partnered with dude?
[16:22:52]   spitllama   Yes, because gzg is acting different than when he was a human in the past, and dude doesn't have any support for his case from previous posts, despite his activity on the site
[16:25:38]   spitllama   Now you Bird, who (besides me apparently) is the wolf?
[16:25:55]   Mr_Bird   um
[16:25:58]   Mr_Bird   well the problem is
[16:26:04]   Mr_Bird   i think gzg is the most suspicious person in the game right now
[16:26:05]   Mr_Bird   BUT
[16:26:12]   Mr_Bird   it's pretty unlikely that he'd be partnered with dude
[16:26:41]   Mr_Bird   because gzg voted for dude when dude had 3 votes on him
[16:27:16]   spitllama   What makes dude the wolf
[16:28:04]   Mr_Bird   well, it sort of makes me think that dude might not have been a wolf after all!
[16:29:00]   Mr_Bird   but that still leaves another wolf in this game
[16:29:07]   Mr_Bird   my guess would be locke if he isn't the traitor
[16:29:57]   Mr_Bird   ANYWAY
[16:30:02]   Mr_Bird   you've convinced me that you're not a wolf
[16:30:04]   Mr_Bird   so good job!

gzg
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: spitllama on December 21, 2011, 02:47:37 PM
Gzg for above reasons
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: spitllama on December 21, 2011, 02:47:52 PM
Oops. No editing sucks. Gzg
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 21, 2011, 03:04:39 PM
I'm like... 90% sure that gzg is a wolf now. I can make a really strong case for every player's humanity except for his. I'm not sure if Dude was his partner, or Blueflower999, but I feel like this game is just about wrapped up.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Greg on December 21, 2011, 03:36:37 PM
Well great.
Voting for davy, because of his safety on himself. The only person he's targeted this phase has been Bird. Once that fell through, he safetied, despite the fact that there are plenty of targets (namely me and spit, when he'd safetied). Also the other arguments that he's human could have been done by an experienced wolf.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: SuperFireKirby on December 21, 2011, 03:54:26 PM
^either this is just an awful excuse to try and sneak the lynch onto Davy or...wait ti is. Dumb human or slightly less dumb wolf move. I'll go with the latter for now.

Gzgreg(not voting for him at this second to help prevent an insta)

Also, Bird has become less suspicious to me because he didn't insta Jub. But he could have easily been away from his computer the entire time that little mess was going on. Still high on my list.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Jub3r7 on December 21, 2011, 05:35:22 PM
Bird was my top suspicion for a while as for reasons stated in the other post; however, I slightly started suspecting gzg after vermillion informed me of his multitude of activity in a different twg (especially via presence in that twg's chat) which corresponded with this one, which ended only about four days ago.

Then he suddenly comes out and votes davy. :I
Other than SFK, davy is close to the bottom of everyone's list for being a wolf. I'd vote gzg too but I'll go in the chat to discuss first and also to avoid an insta.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Jub3r7 on December 21, 2011, 05:38:45 PM
Nobody's in the chat! D:

(Go to the chat.)
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Locke (Faux) on December 21, 2011, 07:13:19 PM
Traitor here. Wolves claim to me.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: SuperFireKirby on December 21, 2011, 07:17:34 PM
Not this again. -_-
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Locke (Faux) on December 21, 2011, 07:20:13 PM
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi705.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww52%2Fmatt_1987%2FBirdClaimsWolf.png&hash=60ab9a740542befd55bfb4eac8e12851798bf694)

I lied. It occurred to me that claiming traitor would be a good way to trick the wolves into revealing themselves. But I'm not really the traitor, and when you see that I'm not dead from the hunter guessing me tonight, we'll have the last wolf.

Got you good, Bird.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: spitllama on December 21, 2011, 07:26:41 PM
Can we verify that the photo is real or is that unnecessary >.<
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 21, 2011, 07:32:41 PM
axem do you have to do this every game

No, that photo is fake. Locke here likes to make fake screenshots. He's obviously the traitor trying to make one last stab at the humans before he dies at the end of this phase (when he's hunted by the hunter). And who knows, maybe the wolve(s) have claimed to him, but if they did, Locke won't tell us (because he actually is the traitor).
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 21, 2011, 07:34:57 PM
Alternatively, he is a wolf trying to get me lynched for some reason. I don't know. But if he doesn't die today, I'll still be able to prove that that screenshot is fake, making him a liar and a wolf.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: spitllama on December 21, 2011, 07:37:27 PM
Time will tell. But Locke would have to be pretty ballsy to throw that out there this late in the game (as our supposed traitor).
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 21, 2011, 07:38:30 PM
He always does stuff like this.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Locke (Faux) on December 21, 2011, 07:45:14 PM
lol Sauce, you done goofed.

Bird severely exaggerates when he says I "always" do stuff like this in "every" game. Clearly a desperate attempt to make my screenshot look fake. I'm not sure why you even bother, Bird. ... What Bird is referring to are 3 joke screenshots that were made as very obvious jokes in 3 different games from 10 months to more than a year ago, and I can link you to those games and my screenshot posts to prove my point.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 21, 2011, 07:47:31 PM
I guess my point is axem has a history of faking things. So the fact that I say he's faking it means that he probably is.

I would not make a mistake like that.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Locke (Faux) on December 21, 2011, 07:51:23 PM
The fact that you say it's fake doesn't mean jack squat.

I have a very small history of faking things as jokes from like a very long time ago. I wouldn't bother faking a screencap as a serious tactic. Too much work, too many little details that could give its fakeness away to check for.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Jub3r7 on December 21, 2011, 07:54:12 PM
safety on locke in case there's an insta otherwise I'll change my vote before then.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Locke (Faux) on December 21, 2011, 07:58:22 PM
You played well Bird, but that last slip up was just too big. I admit I'm a little surprised you fell for my trick.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Locke (Faux) on December 21, 2011, 07:59:48 PM
You're too late.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Jub3r7 on December 21, 2011, 08:00:16 PM
I guess gzg then.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: spitllama on December 21, 2011, 08:00:58 PM
gzg cause I can't remember what I voted last time 8)
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Mashi on December 21, 2011, 08:02:09 PM
Brutal Wolf Painter - Has painting powers (Paintings are not permanent and only last the Night Phase). Elects one of his/her voters to die.
Brutal Wolf Shaman - Has seer powers. Elects one of his/her voters to die.
Traitor - Gains seer powers at the end of day 3.
Hunter - Has seer powers. Must catch the traitor by the end of day 3. At the end of each day he/she submits a name. If that person is the traitor, they die immediately. If he fails to send the correct name by the end of Day 3, he dies.
Guardian - Powers fail on blues.
Brutal Human - When lynched, chooses a Player that voted for him/her and kills him/her.
Millwright - Is told he/she is Human.
Human
Human
Human
Human

Day 2 has ended!  gzgregory has been lynched!  Locke (Faux) has been hunted!

1. vermillionvermin
2. Dude
3. SuperFireKirby
4. blueflower999
5. shadowkirby
6. spitllama
7. Jub3r7
8. gzgregory
9. davy
10. Bird
11. Locke (Faux)

It is now Night 3.  Night 3 ends Thursday (December 22nd) at 11PM EST/10PM CST/9PM MST/8PM PST.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Mashi on December 21, 2011, 08:02:52 PM
23:01   Charles   Anyone who takes away my 11PM post gets instant death.
23:02      *** Me is now known as Awesomesauce
23:02   Bird   i'm posting at 11PM
23:02   Bird   right on the dot
23:02   Awesomesauce   Me too
23:02   Awesomesauce   Sorry Mashi
23:02   Bird   yup
23:02   gzgregory   well fudge all of you
23:02   Awesomesauce   fank ou
23:02   Vera   NO
23:02   Vera   BIRD
23:02   Vera   THAT'S MY JOB
23:02   Bird   outsource it!
23:02   Vera   Also I'm not a homestuck fanatic
23:02   Bird   to me!
23:02   Locke   Bird wants to steal the spotlight because he's about to be proven to be a wolf
23:02   Locke   this is his last chance to shine
23:02   Bird   i love shining
23:02   Bird   but i'll pass
23:03   Awesomesauce   He's done just as much "shining" the whole game
23:03   Awesomesauce   Whatever that is
23:03      *** Awesomesauce is now known as spitllama
23:03   Bird   locke
23:03   Bird   say
23:03   Bird   "i'm very disappointed with all of you"
23:03   spitllama   it
23:03   Charles   axem died
23:03      *** spitllama quit (Q:- NSM Chatroom)
23:04   Charles   except he actually did
23:04   Locke   It's too late Bird I said a different flocke quote
23:04   Vera   Verm was brutal'd????
23:04   Vera   Oh dear.
23:04   Vera   wait
23:04   Vera   no
23:04   Vera   locke
23:04   Vera   OH jk
23:04   Vera   I was getting names mixed up.
23:04   Bird   wat
23:04   Locke   i'm so confused
23:05   Charles   JUB3R7.
23:05   Vera   Verm was not brutal'd I was just being not very smart for a second.
23:05   Charles   YOU NINJA'D ME TOO.
23:05   Vera   Who me? D:
23:05   Charles   Yes.
23:05   gzgregory   anyways
23:05      *** NSMGuest79 joined #twg
23:05      *** NSMGuest79 is now known as spitllama
23:05   Locke   Jubr and spitlama updated their votes past the time the phase ended!
23:05   Charles   oh my god
23:05   Charles   ninjad
23:05   spitllama   What happened to Mashi's post
23:05   Charles   again
23:05   Bird   i think it's kind of poetic how this game will end the same way it began
23:05   Vera   actually, locke, you're incorrect
23:05   Bird   with a traitor claim
23:05   spitllama   Eh I think I voted the same last time anyhow
23:05   Charles   All of you died.
23:05   Vera   spitllama had already voted gzg
23:05   Charles   All of you.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 21, 2011, 08:03:39 PM
I was sure the game would end!

I...

I no longer trust any of you.

Except Spitllama.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: spitllama on December 21, 2011, 08:05:07 PM
G** F****** D***** I THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE OVER. Bah.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: davy on December 21, 2011, 10:34:20 PM
Today (thursday) is my last night phase. Tomorrow (friday) is my last day I can play the game. I would like any players to PM me in which they say:


I cannot appear in chat for the rest of the game, so this is the easiest way to connect me.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: SuperFireKirby on December 22, 2011, 08:24:49 AM
Boom headshot! We didn't get a wolf but at least we got the Traitor.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 22, 2011, 12:33:07 PM
Shouldn't we be sending them to SFK?  I'll have mine done later tonight.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: davy on December 22, 2011, 01:19:47 PM
You could send it to SFK too. The point is, if you don't convince me now, you have no time to convince me anymore.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 22, 2011, 02:58:02 PM
I'll do mine in a bit as well, on the condition that you reveal what everyone has said come day phase. It's really just between two players at this point though.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 22, 2011, 02:58:50 PM
Also, at this point we should be assuming that Dude was a wolf. Because if he wasn't a wolf, then it will be impossible for us to win anyway.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 22, 2011, 03:29:15 PM
I sent mine to SFK because I know for a fact that he's human.  If there are some other members of the alliance still alive, he can send it to them too, but I'd feel most comfortable if I knew that it was in the alliance leader's hands.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 22, 2011, 03:38:58 PM
Edit: I guess blueflower999 OR Dude could be a wolf, but the fact is there's only one wolf left.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: davy on December 22, 2011, 03:48:43 PM
I just want to know verm, is your information so important that I may not know it? Otherwise you're making yourself unnessesairy suspecious.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 22, 2011, 05:35:15 PM
why do night phases end so late :(
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 22, 2011, 05:41:12 PM
If you're a wolf, I'd rather not have you handle the suspicion lists!

Given that we have a perfectly capable confirmed human, I think it would be in the best interest of the humans to have him handle the suspicion lists.

From my experience, when wolves collect suspicion lists, everyone seems to trust them.  Bird can confirm that, in a prior TWG we've played, he was never suspected because nobody questioned his leadership when he handled the suspicion lists.

It's not that I don't trust you, I think that we'd have the best results if a confirmed human does it.  Having anyone else do it introduces bias.

I think the best plan would be to send them all to SFK and then have him distribute them to whatever specials happen to remain.  That way, if he dies tonight, we can have a special be able to confirm his identity by publishing the suspicion lists.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 22, 2011, 06:06:43 PM
do you think davy is a wolf, verm
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Mashi on December 22, 2011, 06:12:45 PM
Quote from: Bird on December 22, 2011, 05:35:15 PMwhy do night phases end so late :(
omg bird why are you complaning  anout night phases dont you know there are childrenin africa starving and there are communists in north korea omg youre so spoiled
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 22, 2011, 06:15:03 PM
friends don't let friends host twg drunk

vera confirmed for NO FRIENDS
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Mashi on December 22, 2011, 06:18:46 PM
Bird confirmed for LVP.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 22, 2011, 06:20:17 PM
that's not how you make friends mashi!
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Mashi on December 22, 2011, 06:22:14 PM
its not but its fun
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 22, 2011, 08:23:58 PM
late!

this is what happens when you drink on the job!
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 22, 2011, 09:41:32 PM
i want to know who stole the 11:00 post from mashi because they did a really good job of it
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: davy on December 23, 2011, 05:27:35 AM
Ok, first of all I want to congratulate everyone, and especially Mashi.

TWG XXIV is now the longest TWG in posts on nsm.

That being said, I don't have anything to add to this game. And since I'm not really sure if it's day phase or not, I can't say so much about the game.

So, my voting will be:
Bird
Spit
Vermin
Jub
SFK
davy


That's the order of players I'll vote for. So if Bird is alive after this night I'll vote for him, and otherwise spit. Same goes for the day phase after it.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: davy on December 23, 2011, 05:31:29 AM
To make sure everyone and especially Mashi understands what I'm doing: in my last post I decided who to vote for. I'm not able to vote during the next days, so I'be voted now allready.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: spitllama on December 23, 2011, 11:05:42 AM
Did you not get my PM davy? >.<
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 23, 2011, 11:12:58 AM
davy show us the pms
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 23, 2011, 11:16:30 AM
Also i don't really understand how you could be suspicious of me. You're being slapped in the face with human behavior and still you vote for me.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 23, 2011, 11:18:37 AM
somebody get in the chat so i can yell at them!
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: davy on December 23, 2011, 11:30:04 AM
Ask SFK for the PM's. I only got one from bird and one from spit.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 23, 2011, 11:31:26 AM
Why are you voting for me!?
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 23, 2011, 01:32:53 PM
An hour ago, I checked the who is online thing, and it said that you were posting a message. Two hours later, no post.

If you're having trouble coming up with why I should be lynched, it's probably because I'm not a wolf!
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Mashi on December 23, 2011, 01:38:47 PM
Brutal Wolf Painter - Has painting powers (Paintings are not permanent and only last the Night Phase). Elects one of his/her voters to die.
Brutal Wolf Shaman - Has seer powers. Elects one of his/her voters to die.
Traitor - Gains seer powers at the end of day 3.
Hunter - Has seer powers. Must catch the traitor by the end of day 3. At the end of each day he/she submits a name. If that person is the traitor, they die immediately. If he fails to send the correct name by the end of Day 3, he dies.
Guardian - Powers fail on blues.
Brutal Human - When lynched, chooses a Player that voted for him/her and kills him/her.
Millwright - Is told he/she is Human.
Human
Human
Human
Human

I sincerely apologise for the late update; I ran into Internet problems and wasn't able to resolve them, so I just gave up yesterday.

Night 3 has ended!  davy has been wolfed!

1. vermillionvermin
2. Dude
3. SuperFireKirby
4. blueflower999
5. shadowkirby
6. spitllama
7. Jub3r7
8. gzgregory
9. davy
10. Bird
11. Locke (Faux)

It is now Day 3.  Day 3 ends Sunday (December 25th) at 11PM EST/10PM CST/9PM MST/8PM PST.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 23, 2011, 02:21:21 PM
If davy wasn't the seer (and he probably was), then seer results would be awesome.

I'm gonna vote for Jub3r7, since at this point he seems like the person most likely to be the last wolf. During day 1, everybody was changing their votes like crazy except for Jub3r7, who laid low. He never voted for Dude, and the only time he did vote was when the spitllama lynch was proposed at the last second. Gzg (a confirmed human) noted that Jub3r7 was being uncharacteristically inactive, and I agree. He also asked a question about paintings that seemed really obvious question about the seer which I think sounds a lot like an attempt to look human. ("if the hunter gets a green result, that person can still be a wolf because of the painter, right?") Finally, something about him seemed "off" in the chats, and he seemed to be dodging questions and giving weird answers.

On top of that, everybody else has a few human things going for them.

vermilionvermin - was seered red. I feel like he would have painted himself green if he was a wolf (of course, if Dude was his partner, he might have been too inactive to do so). Verm also seemed enthusiastic about the idea of lynching Dude or Blueflower, and those are his two possible wolf partners. In our many chats, nothing about him ever seemed odd, and I get the feeling he really wants to help the humans.
spitllama - In the log I had with him (which I posted) he shows a lot of confusion about how the game works, and didn't know that there were just two wolves. He could be playing dumb, but I don't think it's likely seeing as how he's been confused (misusing the term safety, etc.) the whole game.
SuperFireKirby - He was wolfed n1. It's possible that he found the guardian n1, then got himself guarded, then attacked himself, but that is extraordinarily unlikely.

I typed a really organized defense of myself in the PM to SFK and davy, but apparently NSM doesn't save sent messages. If SFK could post that, or at least send it back to me, that would be great. Also, my internet isn't working, so I'm using a different computer. I'll try to be online as much as I can.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: spitllama on December 23, 2011, 04:14:34 PM
If you click "My Messages" and then hover over the "Messages" tab below, you'll see "sent messages"
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 23, 2011, 04:19:17 PM
That only works if you checked off "Save copy to outbox", which is something I apparently forgot to do. So yeah, I'd like to see it still!
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 23, 2011, 04:20:37 PM
also wtf at phase ending at 11Pm on christmas eve :(
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Mashi on December 23, 2011, 04:54:29 PM
im sorry ill shorten the phase then
how does tomorrow sound?????????
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 23, 2011, 05:15:09 PM
It already ends tomorrow! Tomorrow is Christmas eve!

And how come nobody is posting. :(
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Mashi on December 23, 2011, 05:22:37 PM
okay guys since sauce is so querulous you all get an extra day
but only if you all post more!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 23, 2011, 06:09:17 PM
There aren't enough players anymore I've already talked to Bird about all of them and nobody else is in the chat but I still don't know who to vote!!!!
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 23, 2011, 06:21:52 PM
If and only if both specials are alive, they should reveal themselves to the thread.  At that point, we have two lynches left to find one wolf out of two possible suspects.  If that's the case, we win.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 23, 2011, 10:50:11 PM
NOBODY's talking and this is a pretty critical juncture in the game.  This is the PM I sent to SFK.  Talk about it if you'd like, or post your own!

This goes in Comic Sans because this is the best suspicion list ever:

1.   Bird:  5 reasons he's a wolf.

a.   He was the one who started the "let's lynch Spit instead of Dude" movement.  It's looking like Dude was probably a wolf, so that raises my suspicion.

b.   He generally doesn't bandwagon and he is bandwagoning.

c.   There's a situation I described earlier in which he did something similar to what happened on Night 1 with the traitor claiming.  In that game, a person named Fawful Koopa was the seer, but he refused to claim publicly.  In order to get him to do so, Bird suggested that I claim to be the seer publicly.  As a result, I did so, and I ended up getting vigi'd for it.  This is eerily reminiscent of that game because he came up with the idea but didn't implement it.  In the postgame of that game, he revealed that HAD HE BEEN A HUMAN, he would have gone through with that plan himself.  He didn't because he was a wolf.

d.   He's the only one left who fits the criteria of "smart enough to paint verm".

e.   He's a strong player who's STILL ALIVE.  There's really no reason he hasn't been wolfed yet.  People like Shadowkirby shouldn't have been wolfed instead of him.

2.   Jub:  Depends on whether or not he's a special.  I'm pretty sure he is one because SFK really didn't address the stuff against him but says he's human.  I'm going to keep him high on my suspicion list for now so as not to raise the wolf/wolves' suspicion.  He seemed off in that chat I keep on mentioning, and there's another one of his posts in which he hints at the fact that he knows that Dude is the brutal human.  He'd only know that if he were a wolf and Dude weren't his partner.  This could all be explained if he were in the alliance with SFK.

3.   Spitllama:  Probably responded worse than Jub to my reaction test.  Bird says that he doesn't seem to understand the whole thing with the roles, but, after reading that chatlog, I'm not so sure.  He very well could be feigning a lack of knowledge of the roles.  I mean, they're in the very first post of the game in bright and shiny colors!  Inactivity and lack of knowledge of the rules are probably the best way for a new wolf to survive.

4.   Davy:  I think he's probz human.  That's the sense I've been getting from most people too.

5.   SFK:  Given that the traitor's dead and he was wolfed night 1, he's almost a confirmed human.  Unless the wolves came up with some ridiculously risky plan of wolfing one of their own Night 1, I think he's human!

6.   Verm:  Aww yee.


Things have changed since when I sent this PM.  I wasn't planning on sharing the stuff with Jub but by now I think we need activity and this is the best way to generate it.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 24, 2011, 12:11:55 AM
Might as well respond. I'll use Trebuchet MS, the font to rule them all.

a. Yeah, I didn't really expect this to come back and bite me the way it did. It's definitely something that Dude's wolf partner would do. But it's definitely something that a logical human would do also. Think about it - we're lynching a player who is inactive. But he is going to start being active as soon as he comes back from his vacation. Wouldn't the reasonable thing to do be to lynch a different inactive player? Those were my thoughts anyway, and apparently everybody though it was a good idea at the time. It's really a pretty unfortunate coincidence for me.

b. I don't know why this is being used as evidence to why I'm a wolf. Whenever I'm a wolf or a human on the other forum, I never bandwagon. But when I do it here, I'm automatically a wolf? I think that if I were a wolf, I would be careful not to bandwagon, since it draws unnecessary suspicion to me. And the reasons why I was bandwagoning at all have already been explained (I agree with the previous voter's reasoning, laziness, silliness, etc.). Maybe some other wolves bandwagon all the time, but you know that I don't!

c. I don't remember what happened that clearly, but I feel like you volunteered for the job of claiming traitor. And one of us was going to have to be the person who didn't claim, and it seems like another unfortunate coincidence that it was me.

d. Says who? I think that there are still a lot of players left in this game who would paint you (at least 3). On top of that, you could just be the brutal human. Or a wolf.

e. This one is easy. Night one the wolf seers shadowkirby and wolfs SFK since SFK is considered to be a strong player, and most people won't be able to draw a lot of information from that kill. Shadowkirby ends up being blue, so night 2, Shadowkirby is killed and davy is seered. Davy is seered blue so he gets killed night 3. That's just one of many explanations as to why I haven't been killed. Another explanation is that, since people have been suspicious of me the entire game, there wasn't really a need to kill me. And your argument also applies to you and Jub3r7, so there's that.


So yeah. SFK hasn't sent me my defense of myself yet, so I'll probably do that tomorrow. I don't know if he's even going to show up, so hopefully the people who aren't Verm and I start talking.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 24, 2011, 11:48:56 AM
Safety on Spitllama because I don't know who to vote.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 24, 2011, 01:06:33 PM
Sent a PM to SFK asking him to post, but this is getting ridiculous.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: SuperFireKirby on December 24, 2011, 01:12:23 PM
Shit. Sorry guys, wasn't able to get to a computer yesterday. Anyways, Bird has been seer'd Red.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 24, 2011, 01:48:20 PM
I'm either the brutal human, or was painted by the last wolf. Either way, the game won't end if I'm lynched. And thanks for not messaging me back, SFK (or reading the thread, apparently). You're a real pal.

Anyway, the seer should reveal himself because he's dying next night phase no matter what. (Last night phase, Davy was wolfed, and somebody else was shaman'd, and it was obvious that neither Verm, SFK or I was the Hunter. That means that either spitllama or Jub3r7 was shaman'd. If one of them came back blue, he'll be wolfed, and if one came back green, the other will be wolfed.) Either that, or we'll win on this phase and it won't matter anyway. And if the guardian is alive, as vermilionvermin said, he should reveal himself as well. The humans won't have a good idea of who to lynch until that information is made public, and I don't trust SFK to make the decision on his own considering he doesn't even read the thread. And really, at this point there is no reason to hide it anymore.

Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 24, 2011, 02:46:14 PM
QuoteLast night phase, Davy was wolfed, and somebody else was shaman'd

The shaman is alive?  Then that means that

QuoteI'm either the brutal human, or was painted by the last wolf

the last wolf didn't paint you.

I'd say you're most likely to be the wolf regardless of the seering.  And hell, I'd trust you more than most to make the final decision if you are, in fact, the brutal human.  You've got a 50/50 shot and are probably the most experienced one here, Bird.

I suggest that the hunter claim only to Bird.  If he's the brutal human, he needs to know.  If he's the last wolf, the identity of the hunter is irrelevant.  If he has a partner, the game's over anyways.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 24, 2011, 10:16:38 PM
Well whatever. I'm confident I'll be able to prove my humanity anyway. I'll try and post pretty early tomorrow, so don't insta me by then.

It would really be nice to know who the specials are though, so if I die and the game doesn't end, my suspicions will be more reliable.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 25, 2011, 01:07:36 AM
Hey guys I thought of a better plan.  Lynch Spitllama or jub, whichever one isn't the hunter, today.  Then tomorrow, we lynch bird.  The only way this plan could possibly backfire is if the last wolf HAPPENS to be the painter and he painted bird red.  Even so, we've got a 50/50 chance of lynching the wolf today in the unlikely circumstance that Bird was a normal human painted red.

If Bird is the brutal, he will kill the wolf as opposed to the confirmed human when we lynch him tomorrow.

If he's the wolf then we will win when we lynch him.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Jub3r7 on December 25, 2011, 01:13:50 AM
bird because sfk is a confirmed human, spitllama is the seer, and I'm the guardian.

Confirm this, spit or SFK, and let's finish the game. XD


Also I was just ninja'd by verm and I think that's a terrible idea. (I haven't actually read your post yet.)
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 25, 2011, 01:28:23 AM
preparing post don't insta yet :(
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 25, 2011, 02:20:04 AM
Skimmers: Please Read
Apologies in advance for the wall of text, but this is likely to be my last post, so I want to make it count. Really, just read it.

SFK isn't a wolf, because he was wolfed night 1.
Jub3r7 isn't a wolf, because he's the Guardian.
spitllama isn't a wolf, because he's the Hunter.
I'm not a wolf, because my PM said so.

There are five players left. If I'm a painted human (and I suspect that I am), I'll die and there will be 3 humans and one wolf left. Then a player will be wolfed, leaving two humans and a wolf. It should be pretty obvious who the wolf is at that point. Alternatively, I am the brutal human, and I'll opt to kill verm, who in my eyes is the only possible wolf. Either way the humans win. So me dying is actually not that big of a deal. However... something seems amiss...

If all the claims are to be believed, the only person (in my eyes) who could possibly be the wolf is vermilionvermin. But that doesn't add up.

If he was the wolf shaman, how has he not killed a blue player by now, especially considering how he was going on about Jub3r7 acting like a special. And if he was the wolf painter, why did he not paint himself green after claiming traitor? And how are the guardian and seer still alive anyway? Do you know what the chances of that are? INCREDIBLY FREAKING SLIM. This math is pretty loose, but a rough estimation shows a 10% chance of that happening. And that's if the wolves aren't making educated guesses and are just shooting randomly. I'm worried something less-than-excellent is happening in the alliance. I would like to ask that the alliance members make absolutely sure that none of the other alliance members are wolves. Ensure that the claims are legitimate. If the guardian claimed to SFK before he was wolfed, that means that SFK could be a wolf. Things like that.

I'm going to set my "brutal" on verminvermilion, but I would still like not to be lynched. If the game doesn't end here, and you're all sure that nothing sinister is occurring in the alliance, you'll know who to lynch.

And as a fun last argument to my humanity... if I was a wolf at this point, it would be impossible for me to win. I'm about to be lynched, and even if I wasn't, there is only one other non-confirmed human who could be lynched. Even if they were, the game would continue and I would just be lynched in the following day phase! Essentially, if I am a wolf, there is no way for me to win. The game would basically be over. So why am I bothering with this. I'm not going to win no matter what, isn't all this arguing pointless for me?

Answer: yes. I have presented reasonable defenses for all my actions, and have been helpful this entire game. I've been requesting phase extensions and urging people to discuss their suspicions. I've been voting constantly, pressuring many people and then reconsidering my stance on them. If you don't believe that the big things I've done indicate that I'm human, look at the little things. If you guys lynch me because you truly believe I am a wolf, then I don't know what to say. That sounds like a problem with TWG on NSM rather than a problem with me, because I've done everything in my power to show that I really am human. If you still think otherwise, you should probably stop playing TWG with your eyes closed.

vermilionvermin
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 25, 2011, 02:29:49 AM
Just kidding. I really wish I could have ended with that dramatic note, but I had a way more important thought.

If I, presumably the brutal human, am lynched, and the wolf, presumably vermilionvermin, fails to vote for me, then the wolf wins (since a random human will be brutal'd and a wolfing will occur in the following night phase, bringing the ration to 1:1).

So what's it going to be verm? Are you going to put your money where your mouth is, or are we going to have to vote for you?
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 25, 2011, 09:06:07 AM
I'm hesitant to say that Jub and Spitllama are in an alliance given that Spitllama was one of the people who nearly insta'd Jub.  But if it's the case, then Bird must be the last wolf.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: spitllama on December 25, 2011, 01:10:11 PM
Yes I'll confirm I'm the seer. I've had my suspicions of Jub, but Bird has been seer'd red.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Bird on December 25, 2011, 02:31:52 PM
I guess you're all forgetting that verm was seered red as well, huh?

Anyway, that's an insta. My brutal has been set. If you truly believe that the integrity of the alliance has not been compromised, then you'll know who to lynch next day phase.

Have fun, verm.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Mashi on December 25, 2011, 05:03:24 PM
Brutal Wolf Painter - Has painting powers (Paintings are not permanent and only last the Night Phase). Elects one of his/her voters to die.
Brutal Wolf Shaman - Has seer powers. Elects one of his/her voters to die.
Traitor - Gains seer powers at the end of day 3.
Hunter - Has seer powers. Must catch the traitor by the end of day 3. At the end of each day he/she submits a name. If that person is the traitor, they die immediately. If he fails to send the correct name by the end of Day 3, he dies.
Guardian - Powers fail on blues.
Brutal Human - When lynched, chooses a Player that voted for him/her and kills him/her.
Millwright - Is told he/she is Human.
Human
Human
Human
Human

Day 3 has ended.  Bird has been Insta'd.

1. vermillionvermin
2. Dude
3. SuperFireKirby
4. blueflower999
5. shadowkirby
6. spitllama
7. Jub3r7
8. gzgregory
9. davy
10. Bird
11. Locke (Faux)

It is now Night 4.  Night 4 ends Monday (December 26th) at 11PM EST/10PM CST/9PM MST/8PM PST.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 25, 2011, 05:40:33 PM
Uh uh

I got nothing.  The alliance must have been infiltrated.  I know nobody probably believes me, but it is the truth.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: spitllama on December 25, 2011, 09:42:51 PM
Mashi can you please clarify that the brutal human's after-lynched kill would be instant?
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 25, 2011, 09:58:05 PM
Quote21:18      *** Verm joined #twg
21:28      *** NSMGuest14 joined #twg
21:28      *** NSMGuest14 is now known as spitllama
21:29   spitllama   Verm..
21:29   Verm   hi spit.
21:29   Verm   I'm not really sure who it is, but someone infiltrated the alliance.
21:30   spitllama   ... right
21:30   spitllama   I'm sure you know I'm suspicious of you and Jub right now
21:30   Verm   Wait
21:30   Verm   Jub never told you he was in the alliance?
21:30   spitllama   No. But he did send a collection of PMs to me to make us be in a fake alliance
21:31   Verm   what
21:31   spitllama   We decided to lie to get you and SFK to vote Bird off. I'm not sure of Jub's intentions now, but I did it cause I was sure Bird was the last wolf
21:32   spitllama   It was a way to skip the crap and just end the game
21:32   spitllama   Or so I thought
21:32   Verm   Well if Jub isn't a special and he went through with that, then I'm certainly alarmed!
21:33      *** Locke joined #twg
21:33   Locke   what did i miss
21:33   spitllama   He claimed to me to be the seer and seer Jub red
21:33   spitllama   We are discussing my PMs with Jub
21:33   Verm   wait who claimed to be the seer?
21:33   Verm   ok
21:33   Verm   so he said that you should claim to be the seer, and say that you seered Bird red?
21:33   spitllama   Sorry Jub claimed to be the seer and seer'd BIRD red, as SFK pronounced
21:34   spitllama   Correct
21:34   Verm   and he told you to claim to be the seer?
21:34   spitllama   Yes. He said that the real guardian was dead, so the plan could work
21:36   spitllama   So eithr Jub was telling the truth and Bird was the brutal human or he lied and is the wolf trying to save his @$$
21:36   Verm   Well bird can't have been the brutal human.  He died and took nobody with him.
21:37   spitllama   Is the Brutal's kill instant?
21:37   Verm   I think so.
21:37   Verm   He said his brutal kill was set to me.
21:39   spitllama   So how can he not be the Brutal human
21:39   Verm   Well if he were the brutal human, I would be dead.
21:39   Verm   If he were a wolf, I would be dead.
21:39   Verm   So he must have been a regular human either painted red or fake-seered red.
21:40   spitllama   That leaves Jub then. He wouldn't lie otherwise.
21:43   spitllama   What are your thoughts
21:43   Verm   Um
21:43   Verm   well I can't really decide between you and Jub
21:43   Verm   He obviously will have another side to the story
21:44   Verm   Though right now I'd have to say I suspect Jub for telling you to lie about who you were.
21:44   spitllama   I can of course provide the discussion via printscreen or some other method, but idk if that would affect you a whole ton
21:45   Verm   I'll have to talk to Jub as well, but right now I'd lean towards him being the wolf.
21:46   spitllama   What I don't understand is that Jub said to ask SFK for verification of Jub being the seer.
21:46   spitllama   I PMed SFK twice with no response
21:46   Verm   We'll certainly need verification from SFK.
21:46   spitllama   We know SFK is human, but he was online and could have answered those questions
21:46   Verm   Right.
21:46   spitllama   If he knew better he would have said something (and was human)
21:47   Verm   Right now I'm confused.
21:47   spitllama   K
21:47   spitllama   We know that SFK has to be human
21:48   spitllama   Assuming this, and the fact that he was online when I sent those PMs, he would have immediately said something if Jub wasn't the seer.
21:48   spitllama   If he had been speaking and planning with Jub earlier (as even Jub made it sound), he wouldn't have responded
21:49   spitllama   He didn't respond.
21:49   spitllama   So I myself am confused as well.
21:49   Verm   Hopefully SFK can clear this up for us.
21:49   spitllama   You should try to get a hold of him since he didn't acknowledge me last time
21:50   Verm   ok I'll send him a PM.
21:51   spitllama   I will follow up with a PM to him to clarify your discussions FYI

K.  Some really questionable stuff just happened and I want to know why.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Mashi on December 26, 2011, 08:00:01 PM
Brutal Wolf Painter - Has painting powers (Paintings are not permanent and only last the Night Phase). Elects one of his/her voters to die.
Brutal Wolf Shaman - Has seer powers. Elects one of his/her voters to die.
Traitor - Gains seer powers at the end of day 3.
Hunter - Has seer powers. Must catch the traitor by the end of day 3. At the end of each day he/she submits a name. If that person is the traitor, they die immediately. If he fails to send the correct name by the end of Day 3, he dies.
Guardian - Powers fail on blues.
Brutal Human - When lynched, chooses a Player that voted for him/her and kills him/her.
Millwright - Is told he/she is Human.
Human
Human
Human
Human

Night 3 has ended.  SuperFireKirby has been wolfed.

1. vermillionvermin
2. Dude
3. SuperFireKirby
4. blueflower999
5. shadowkirby
6. spitllama
7. Jub3r7
8. gzgregory
9. davy
10. Bird
11. Locke (Faux)

It is now Day 3.  Day 3 ends Tuesday (December 28th) at 11PM EST/10PM CST/9PM MST/8PM PST.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Jub3r7 on December 26, 2011, 08:21:52 PM
I've seered spitllama Orange.

vermillionvermin is the last wolf.

Give me one minute and I can screenshot all of the pm's between me and SFK, proving me to be the seer.
Also the ones between me and spitllama, if that'll help.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Jub3r7 on December 26, 2011, 08:24:48 PM
Oh yeah, I should mention that a lot of our conversation was in the chat, which is why some of it is missing.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 26, 2011, 08:33:54 PM
The wolf painter must be alive.  That's why nobody died with Bird.  The seering means nothing, even if you are the hunter, of which I'm not sure.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 26, 2011, 08:37:52 PM
Spitllama is a much better vote than me.  He was willing to lie about his role to get us to lynch an innocent human.  Then again, so did you, Jubert.  But I think it Is more likely Spitllama.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: spitllama on December 26, 2011, 08:44:41 PM
So you think I'm the painter because I came to you and told you about what happened? That makes no sense. If I was the wolf I wouldn't have said a thing. What changed since our convo Verm?

Jub still waiting on those PMs..
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 26, 2011, 08:45:42 PM
I will Retract my vote for now in case Jub is the wolf.

I need to talk to you.  I think I'm in the chat.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Jub3r7 on December 26, 2011, 08:46:01 PM
Okay, here go the private messages.

Whatever you do, spitllama, don't vote for me while I'm in the middle of uploading these screen shots.
If you do, verm will insta me and humans will lose!

If you wait one minute I can have a superfluous amount of proof of me being the seer.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: spitllama on December 26, 2011, 08:47:08 PM
I will wait
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: spitllama on December 26, 2011, 08:49:12 PM
Jub you fool. Get in the chat.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 26, 2011, 08:52:32 PM
I'm the only one here who's played the game straight.  One of you, and I'm not sure who, decided that it would be a good idea to have Spit lie about his role in order to get an innocent human lynched.

The seer results are irrelevant given that we know FOR A FACT that Bird should have been seered either green or orange.  If he were really red, then someone would have died.

Either Jub's lying about being the seer OR the results were painted.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 26, 2011, 08:57:43 PM
The seer results don't match up.  Jub knows his seer results should be invalid, but for some reason he's voting on them.  And now he's taking too long to find these PM's which would in theory clear him.  He's been suspicious outside of this.  He's also been avoiding the chat.  The only explanation is that he's the wolf.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Jub3r7 on December 26, 2011, 08:58:41 PM
Just saying that some of these might not be in order.
All of my pms to SFK and spitllama:

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi923.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad71%2FJub3r7%2Fjubone.png&hash=733da48b0986a693250600681c0e42aeebb0a894)



(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi923.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad71%2FJub3r7%2Fjubtwo.png&hash=2739c3ad1934b1eb7825cae73cbe13a554af2c9a)



(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi923.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad71%2FJub3r7%2Fjubthree.png&hash=170c07da4995944d8cee17a68b8c58fc6a35fb78)



(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi923.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad71%2FJub3r7%2Fjubfour.png&hash=ebc84cba82702c5fe47a9c2496d56bfa18d63fa1)



(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi923.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad71%2FJub3r7%2Fjubfive.png&hash=6a066477946c2aacfa531eea7c9e0c67c5ec26ca)


SFK/spit's pms to me (one of them is part of a chat log):
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi923.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad71%2FJub3r7%2Fsfkone.png&hash=9b718d6b3128eaba30f1dc9833eae788a8a7273a)



(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi923.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad71%2FJub3r7%2Fsfktwo.png&hash=2eafb5e66c09f27c622da651808b067960f361ef)



(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi923.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad71%2FJub3r7%2Fsfkthree.png&hash=5b1111bc2d9a81fed1ce6bf3af0f2180a84849cb)



(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi923.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad71%2FJub3r7%2Fspit.png&hash=2f40a7f59fa488479cec94bf8af6f52e1e77fe3b)

1. Pickles = SFK in chat
2. spit was supposed to claim but he didn't so I did. :<
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Jub3r7 on December 26, 2011, 08:59:30 PM
Taking too long? I had nine pictures to upload.

And if I was in the chat at the same time, my internet would have disconnected and that would have taken even longer.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: spitllama on December 26, 2011, 08:59:42 PM
I'll present everything I've got honestly. I agreed to this because I was so sure of Bird's wolf-ness.

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1192.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Faa326%2Fspitllama1%2FTWG.png&hash=7339a25889ea7188eb5a8d869d2d460968cfdbd6)
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: vermilionvermin on December 26, 2011, 09:00:25 PM
Retracting my vote then.  Something's up.  I'd like to chat with Jub.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Jub3r7 on December 26, 2011, 09:00:46 PM
Also, one more thing, if you weren't the wolf spitllama would have insta'd you already.

Heading to the chat now.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: spitllama on December 26, 2011, 09:01:32 PM
Looks like Jub already posted it.

I would have really liked for SFK to answer my PMs when I tried to verify your position Jub.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Jub3r7 on December 26, 2011, 09:30:14 PM
sfk's been inactive and wasn't responding to my pm's at the end of the game, either. (The ones where I was telling him about the plan about getting you to claim as the seer.)
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Jub3r7 on December 26, 2011, 10:10:22 PM
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#twg
   *NickServ*   Password accepted - you are now recognized.
   <Jub3r7>   If you were a legitimate hacker you could figure out my password through a program.
   <PICKLES>   Didn't know you could make password protected Nicknames
   <Jub3r7>   Well now you do! :D
   <PICKLES>   but anyways, I think it would be best to stay hidden, though I do think Verm is human
   <Jub3r7>   Unfortunately, me too.
   <Jub3r7>   You should remain ambiguous
   <Jub3r7>   but wait
   <PICKLES>   Also, you might want to try acting a bit more human
   <Jub3r7>   Saying yes or no to his question will not be ambiguous
   <Jub3r7>   :P
   <Jub3r7>   Sorry
   =-=   YOU are now known as Jub3r7_is_human
   <Jub3r7_is_human>   Believe it!
   <Jub3r7_is_human>   I was fine at the beginning of the game but then I tried to make myself un-seer like in the log and that was a mistake.
   <PICKLES>   I'm just not gonna answer him with a yes or no. his pm basically said "I think he's a special. You don't need to respond, I just wanted to let you know."
   <Jub3r7_is_human>   I guess you don't need to respond, then. XD
   <Jub3r7_is_human>   On the bright side, if he is human, he was smart enough to figure that out.
   <Jub3r7_is_human>   Let's say we lynch bird this phase, and the game doesn't end there, who would be your next target?
   <PICKLES>   alsoAs for play style, just act as if you where human and didn't know anything about the seer or who it might be
   <Jub3r7_is_human>   HMM MAYBE SFK IS THE SEER
   =-=   PICKLES is now known as SuperFireKirby
   <Jub3r7_is_human>   Hey, sfk, send me a pm
   <Jub3r7_is_human>   So I know it's you.
   <SuperFireKirby>   DARN YOU CAUGHT ME
   <Jub3r7_is_human>   D:
   <Jub3r7_is_human>   Oh deer
   <Jub3r7_is_human>   Oh antelope
   <Jub3r7_is_human>   Oh fawn
   <Jub3r7_is_human>   Also, physics just blew my mind
   <Jub3r7_is_human>   Neutrinos
   <Jub3r7_is_human>   Don't exist in a mirror-d alternate dimension
   =-=   SuperFireKirby is now known as SuperAnti-FireKirby
   =-=   YOU are now known as icanthack
   <icanthack>   It's an inside joke. :p
   <icanthack>   But, my chorus teacher thinks I can and doesn't want me to explain why I don't know how to hack because "ignorance is bliss"
   <icanthack>   Or
   <icanthack>   Because she doesn't want to be involved
   <icanthack>   If I ever get any trouble
   <icanthack>   Also, because of the word "yet"
   <icanthack>   :P
   <icanthack>   SFK, I have a Christmas present for you! :O
   <icanthack>   SuperAnti-FireKirby
   <icanthack>   Would you like a text to speech program?
   <SuperAnti-FireKirby>   YES
   <icanthack>   XD
   <SuperAnti-FireKirby>   That, and maybe a Bill Cosby sweater
   <icanthack>   Do you want a direct download or make it yourself?
   <icanthack>   i.e. copy and paste things into notepad, save it as "something.vbs"and done
   <icanthack>   I'll just make a direct download
   <icanthack>   http://www.mediafire.com/?n23n74838cmcp3c
   <SuperAnti-FireKirby>   It's BEAUTIFUL
   <icanthack>   XD
   <icanthack>   Does your computer have a robotic, feminine voice?
   <SuperAnti-FireKirby>   yes
   <SuperAnti-FireKirby>   I wish It was Microsoft Sam
   <icanthack>   I thought'd you enjoy this. :P
   <SuperAnti-FireKirby>   he has such a sexy voice
   <icanthack>   Anyways, I had a program that made my cd rom open and close every few seconds.
   <icanthack>   And this guy saw it and was like "TEACHER JERRY BROKE THE COMPUTER"
   <icanthack>   And she ran out of her office and made me get off. :(
   <icanthack>   Although she didn't even see what it was doing.
   <SuperAnti-FireKirby>   lol, my friends used to do stuff like that all the time
   <SuperAnti-FireKirby>   or make windows that would open, like, a billion command prompt windows
   <icanthack>   Oh, I can do that easy! XD
   <icanthack>   I once made a program that made two more appear if you tried to exit out of it.
   <icanthack>   You can imagine the not-so-smart people clicking a bunch of times
   <icanthack>   IT WON'T GO AWAY
   <icanthack>   Do I have you on facebook?
   =-=   YOU are now known as Jub3r7
   *NickServ*   This nickname is registered and protected. If it is your
   *NickServ*   nick, type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY password. Otherwise,
   *NickServ*   please choose a different nick.
   *NickServ*   If you do not change within one minute, I will change your nick.
   >NickServ<   IDENTIFY THISISTHEPARTWHEREIACCIDENTALLYGAVEMASHIMYPASSWORD
   =-=   User mode for Jub3r7 is now +r
   *NickServ*   Password accepted - you are now recognized.
   <SuperAnti-FireKirby>   I think so
   <Jub3r7>   I~~~don't remember your name. :<
   <Jub3r7>   What was it again????
   <SuperAnti-FireKirby>   yep, got you
   <SuperAnti-FireKirby>   I'm Peter btw
   <Jub3r7>   Oh yeah
   <Jub3r7>   OH YEAH
   <Jub3r7>   Your last name fits your personality, just saying.
   <SuperAnti-FireKirby>   wut
   <Jub3r7>   idk why but I think of the word "Spontaneous".
   |<--   [Wry] has left irc.drshnaps.com (Q:- Blarg)
   -->|   spitllama (Mibbit@shacops-636970D9.bendbroadband.com) has joined #twg
   -->|   Locke (Mibbit@shacops-725FD5B0.asm.bellsouth.net) has joined #twg
   <Locke>   This internet connection sucks so I might be unexpectedly disconnected at some point. Just a heads up!
   <Jub3r7>   Oh hello, traitor
   <Jub3r7>   :O
   <Locke>   I guess I'm the brutal human.
   <Locke>   So dude was a wolf.
   <Jub3r7>   The brutal human isn't seered orange. :p
   <Jub3r7>   Also
   <Jub3r7>   All wolves are brutal.
   <Locke>   Oh
   <Jub3r7>   lol nice try
   <Locke>   Well isn't there a human who is orange
   <spitllama>   *Jub suddenly jumps into the picture*
   <Locke>   I can't remember
   <Jub3r7>   There's one but
   <Jub3r7>   You're not the Millwright.
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: spitllama on December 26, 2011, 10:19:44 PM
Jub if you end up being the wolf then props to you for a good fight.

All my fellow humans who decided to not lynch me earlier made a bad decision. You left me to be the game-changer >.<





vermilionvermin
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Jub3r7 on December 26, 2011, 10:20:11 PM
YAY HUMANS WIN WHAT NOW VERM
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Jub3r7 on December 26, 2011, 10:23:00 PM
ohno don't brutal me
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Jub3r7 on December 26, 2011, 10:23:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vHRMeRszw4
Title: Re: TWG XXIV: Sauce Is Pretty Coll
Post by: Mashi on December 26, 2011, 10:25:45 PM
Brutal Wolf Painter - Has painting powers (Paintings are not permanent and only last the Night Phase). Elects one of his/her voters to die.
Brutal Wolf Shaman - Has seer powers. Elects one of his/her voters to die.
Traitor - Gains seer powers at the end of day 3.
Hunter - Has seer powers. Must catch the traitor by the end of day 3. At the end of each day he/she submits a name. If that person is the traitor, they die immediately. If he fails to send the correct name by the end of Day 3, he dies.
Guardian - Powers fail on blues.
Brutal Human - When lynched, chooses a Player that voted for him/her and kills him/her.
Millwright - Is told he/she is Human.
Human
Human
Human
Human

Day 4 has ended.  vermilionvermin was Insta'd and then was like "im worth vermillion dollars double you tee eff mates ^^" and Jub3r7 died too.

1. vermillionvermin
2. Dude
3. SuperFireKirby
4. blueflower999
5. shadowkirby
6. spitllama
7. Jub3r7
8. gzgregory
9. davy
10. Bird
11. Locke (Faux)

Human(s) Win!