Brutal Wolf Painter - Has painting powers (Paintings are not permanent and only last the Night Phase). Elects one of his/her voters to die.
Brutal Wolf Shaman - Has seer powers. Elects one of his/her voters to die.
Traitor - Gains seer powers at the end of day 3.
Hunter - Has seer powers. Must catch the traitor by the end of day 3. At the end of each day he/she submits a name. If that person is the traitor, they die immediately. If he fails to send the correct name by the end of Day 3, he dies.
Guardian - Powers fail on blues.
Brutal Human - When lynched, chooses a Player that voted for him/her and kills him/her.
Millwright - Is told he/she is Human.
Human
Human
Human
Human
1. vermillionvermin - Brutal Wolf Painter - LVP
2. Dude - Brutal Wolf Shaman - A+++++++++
3. SuperFireKirby - Brutal Human - A+++++++++
4. blueflower999 - Human - A+++++++++
5. shadowkirby - Guardian - A+++++++++
6. spitllama - Millwright - A+++++++++
7. Jub3r7 - Hunter - A+++++++++
8. gzgregory - Human - A+++++++++
9. davy - Human - A+++++++++
10. Bird - Human - A++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
11. Locke (Faux) - Traitor - A++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Analysis + Quotes Later.
Night 1:
SuperFireKirby is wolfed.
shadowkirby guards SuperFireKirby.
Dude paints himself Green.
vermilionvermin seers Bird Green.
Jub3r7 seers vermilionvermin Red.
Day 1:
Dude is lynched.
blueflower999 is Insta'd.
Jub3r7 hunts Bird (I think. He told me through chat and I don't want to waste time finding it because I'm super indolent. Sorry!).
Night 2:
shadowkirby is wolfed.
Jub3r7 seers Bird Green.
vermilionvermin paints Jub3r7 Red.
Day 2:
gzgregory is lynched.
Jub3r7 hunts Locke (Faux).
Locke (Faux) dies from being hunted.
Night 3:
davy is wolfed.
vermilionvermin paints Bird Red.
Day 3:
Bird is Insta'd.
Night 4:
SuperFireKirby is wolfed.
vermilionvermin paints himself Green.
Day 4:
vermilionvermin is lynched.
Jub3r7 is Brutal'd.
:(
the worst
I was orange!
Oooo
And hey look I was the seer who would've guessed
good night.
Lo siento
01:35 Mashi locke is now the host
I declare victory for vermillionvermin, Bird, Locke (Faux), and Mashi. Everyone else loses.
I sort of threw the roles of this game together (combining two ideas I'd had in the past), but it ended up working out pretty well. I had no idea how much trouble the Wolf Painter would cause though. I think it's definitely more fun than master wolves/millers and what not.
Regarding the actual game... well, the wolves probably should have won. They had tons of bad luck this entire game. Night one, they seered a green and attacked a human who would be guarded, causing an alliance to spring up. Day 1, they lose their shaman pretty much by accident. Night 2 they fail to take out a blue, so by night 3, half the game is confirmed to be human. And day 3 the humans made a stupid, reckless mistake that, in ordinary circumstances, should have cost them the game. But somehow it didn't. vermilionvermin had pretty much everybody fooled (sure, you may have been suspicious of him at a few points, but nobody ever followed up on these suspicions), and wouldn't have been found out if it weren't for process of elimination. That's pretty incredible considering he made like 1/4 of the posts in the game.
The humans on the other hand, were incredibly disorganized and inactive even though they were lucky enough to create an alliance on day 1. We got lucky with the day 1 lynch (well, some logic was involved, but it was still lucky that Dude went down rather than spitllama), and day 3 was probably the biggest disaster I've ever seen in my 50+ games of TWG. TWG is built on discussion, yet the all-knowing alliance decided to eliminate that aspect of the game entirely. Even though there were two players who had been seered red, they were so sure that one of them was a wolf that they decided to falsify evidence to make the lynching go more smoothly. Needless to say, that backfired completely and caused me to lose a lot of respect for the remaining players. I'd be lying if I said I hadn't been cheering for the wolves after that.
Really. I don't know what made them so sure I was a wolf anyway. The traitor tried to incriminate me, I'd asked for numerous phase extensions, I'd regularly listed suspicions, I'd started the lynch on Dude, defended a ton of people early in the game (all of whom I could prove I was not a wolf with), and I was frequently requesting that players be more active or would join the chat. But I guess that's wolfish behavior around these parts. At least I won't have to deal with it ever again. Probably.
Good game everyone. verm definitely did the best job this game, but I thought that Locke (near the end) and davy also did really well.
You guys sound like you're from LLF.
And good job on an active game..... some of you
As you can see from my 222 posts, I'm a regular member here.
Really.
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Mind blown that Sauce = Bird = Sir Awesomesauce (who I've seen in the ancient past of NSM threads)
Also
1000th post
Sauce is bird, eh?
I'm going to be honest, I'm a LITTLE frustrated by the fact that an irrelevant seering did me in.
:( :( :(
Quote from: vermilionvermin on December 26, 2011, 11:09:21 PMI'm going to be honest, I'm a LITTLE frustrated by the fact that an irrelevant seering did me in.
:( :( :(
Irrelevant?
At that point, we knew the painter was around. There was a 50/50 chance that you were the wolf and had painted yourself orange.
I'm surprised you didn't try to turn it on me.
Also I would have insta'd either of you
Actually, he probably would have, but in order to do that he'd have to go through the p'd off, non-negotiable headache that I had in the chat.
Part of me thought that was total BS
But of course I now know better
welp
sorry guys
:(
Definitely a weird conclusion to the game though ???
Great game, everybody, but why isn't my role listed?
One day, I will make a Host Post without any mistakes.
One day.
Sorry, blueflower999!
Thanks for hosting! Wow, I never would have expected SFK to be the Brutal Human...
I think I'll play the next game.
Quote from: BirdAlso i don't really understand how you could be suspicious of me. You're being slapped in the face with human behavior and still you vote for me.
I didn't have time to andswer this in game so I'll give the andswer now.
1 although all my suspecion against you led to "He's not doing it because he IS human, but because he wants to SEEM human", it's a fact that wolfs often seem more human than humans, because wolfs are really trying to seem human, and humans don't have anything to hide, so they just play.
2 Locke's post about you having PM'd him was WAY to cheap. I'll never forgive him for that. There wasn't anything good for that because everyone knew that PM was fake. At that moment I started thinking that you actually connected him saying you were the last wolf so that when he posted this everyone would knew it was fake and thus say you aren't the wolf which would enable you to win the game.
Then you sent me you PM, and that just did it.
First you say Jub is the wolf.
I don't know if I'm a genius, or else you just were not thinking enough. In the chat with blueflower and SFK, SFK said that Vermin, you and I have all claimed human. That means (unless he was lying) Verm, he, you and I are not blues. The hunter was still alive, so he could only be Spit, Jub or Gregory. SFK voted for Spit and Gregory, and he wouldn't have any reason to vote the hunter. So I knew jub was the Hunter. I PM'd that to SFK and I believe this was a kind of reaction to that (the chat thing):
http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=4025.msg131828#msg131828 (http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=4025.msg131828#msg131828) (allright, I was not so convincing towards SFK than I am now).
and later in you PM you say if jub is not the wolf, it has to be Verm. Then I want to know: Why not me? I think Verm played the game way more human than I. Your sole reason why I wouldn't be the wolf is because I'm putting a hell lot of effort into looking human, while Verm chatted way more with you and changed his opinion way more. The only difference is that he didn't stop the Jub insta directly, but that is because he wasn't online at the moment spit posted.
Finaly, I knew wether a player was human or not from everyone, except for you, verm and Spit. Both Verm and Spit had a better defence than you, so that's why I decided to make the order: Bird, Spit, Verm.
That's all, have a nice day.
Postgame plz
omg why did you remember vermilionvermin :(
8)
I finished the Post Game!
worst postgame ever
Post Game
Vermilionvermin
Before the 'traitor claim' you decided to paint dude green. Due to the fact that you didn't paint yourself green you managed to remove a lot of suspicion from you, which almost caused you to win the game. Also, you decided to wolf SFK, probably because of the manti rule. You decide to claim traitor (which could have helped you finding the true one). After a chat with me (in which I told you there was a chance of you being a wolf), you decided to be more safe if you told the topic that you aren't the traitor. You decides to switch your wolfing to me, because people seem to trust me (I don't really see why people seem to trust me, but that's not important). 40 minutes later, you decide to move the wolfing back on SFK mainly because you think that I might be guarded and SFK not (sadly, it was the other way around). Although you had no idea SFK would be guarded, and therefore you cannot be blamed, this brought the wolf team in trouble, and had you wolfed me, than the game would be entirely different. After that, you make a big post about who's suspicious, in which you don't defend dude, but also don't really attack him, which is a perfect move for a wolf (it doesn't make you suspicious and it lowers the chance of your partner being lynched). You switch your vote to Blueflower, because of Jub's defenses, using the accusing-partner-but-not-voting-for-him/her trick again. You defend yourself against the red seering by enumerating all different possibilities of you not being a wolf. The fact that you painted Dude and not yourself created a perfect opportunity of defending yourself. For the rest of the phase, you just keep changing your votes, and since you were not very well known to the forum yet, no one could really see that that was because you couldn't vote for your partner and thus had to vote for people you were less certain of being a wolf. Sadly for you, Dude was lynched in the end, making you the only wolf left for almost the entire game. You managed to find out that Jub was a special, but you couldn't find the guardian (which was pretty impossible since Shadowkirby wasn't doing really much, as usual) and despite that, you managed to kill him. After that you thought I was the guardian and thanks to that, Jub survived. Due to the Locke claiming traitor you were able to complete the wolf alliance. You also sent him a game strategy for the rest of the game which would probably make you win the game (if it wasn't for jub's brilliant fake claiming hunter and guardian idea).When hearing that Spit and Jub were both specials, the only way for you to win was lynching Bird and trying to convince that there was something wrong with the alliance. Lucky for you, Spitlama told you he wasn't the guardian which allowed you to lynch SFK, which had almost made you win the game after all, but Jub managed to convince Spit that he was the hunter so in the end you lost. Overall you've done a great job.
Dude
You have been inactive for almost the entire game. Even when you could do something, verm took over for you (he was the one who sent the seer PM (correct me if I'm wrong)). Due to your inactivity you got lynched and I think the brutal caused by your death was decided randomly. That's all I can say about you.
SuperFireKirby (brutal human)
You were lucky to be guarded and wolfed at the same time. That caused the humans to gain an alliance. I must say that you were pretty inactive this game. Aside from that, you've given the human team good information about the seerings (although it caused vermillion to survive longer than needed). Also you told Bird, Blueflower and me about the claims which could have enabled a wolf to know who the specials are. Your post saying Shadowkirby wasn't important was nice, because it made Vermin think I was the guardian. You also managed to avoid jub getting insta'd by telling everyone to remove their votes from him until he could post a defense. Your final post was in day 4. A whole phase before you were wolfed! You were the alliance leader! I was actually quite disappointed by that.
Blueflower999
You were a lot more involved than in manhunt, but as we all know now, you weren't at your best this game, which can be forgiven because it was just your second game. You were unlucky that you were randomly brutal'd
Shadowkirby
You were pretty active compared to your usual activity. A lucky guess (guarding SFK) caused the humans to gain an alliance. You voted for Dude which caused the wolves to lose one of theirs early in the game. For the rest of the game, you didn't post anything of high value.
Spitllama(millwright)
Although it was your first game, I think it was your best game up to now. Due to the fact that you were unable to get in the chat there was some suspicion on you which nearly caused that you were lynched. Due to you ignorance (sorry for the wording) you managed to remove the suspicion of you (by saying you thought that (the number of wolfs)/(the number of humans)=50/50). That was also the reason (probably) why jub included you in the fake alliance, which worked out pretty good. You made a little mistake by telling verm that the alliance was infiltrated, but jub convinced you that he was the hunter so it was all good (for the human team that is).
Jub3r7
You were pretty inactive for most of the game, which almost caused you to be Insta'd. I think you should post a little more defense the next time you play. Despite that, you managed to use your power each phase (except when it was irrelevant). At the moment you became active you had a brilliant plan about making spit fake claim as hunter and you as guardian, which caused you to win the game (after convincing Spitllama that you were the true hunter). You've done, despite your inactivity, a good job.
Gzgregory
You weren't really good this game. You were inactive for the largest part of the game, and the only time you came up with something was when you voted for me, which caused you to be lynched.
Davy(Yes, I'm analyzing myself too)
I have been fairly active this game but in contrast to the more active players I haven't been switching my votes so much. During each phase I only came up with one thing which was pretty much worked out and I think that that was the thing what made everyone think I was a human. I was the first to be really suspicious of bird which might have caused him to be lynched. A bad planned holiday to Austria cost me to be inactive for the last part of the game, but luckily I was wolfed at that moment. I think I can say it was one of my better games.
Bird
According to Verm, it was you who came up with the traitor fake claiming. Although it was a nice strategy, it could have gone very wrong. Had Verm found out that Locke was the traitor, then he would have had a huge benefit. Your chat with me in which you joked that you were a wolf didn't really work out for you because Wrydryn often jokes about being a wolf when he actually is one. You defended a lot of players which made you think that you proved your humanity by doing that, while actually, wolves often try to seem very human, so it didn't prove anything. Like verm you were switching your vote a lot. After I voted for you in day 2, you became a lynch target in day 3. As there were no players beside verm and Spit who were not 'confirmed' you were pretty much lynched by the process of elimination.
Locke (Faux)
You were fairly active in the beginning of the game. You came up with the idea of traitor claiming, although you didn't decide it to do it yourself. At the moment I told the wolves to claim to verm, you try to keep them from doing that by telling them not to claim. This causes a lynch against you but you gave a reason for that so that you survived a bit longer. An unlucky seering (unlucky for you that is) caused you to be hunted at the end of day 2. Despite that you managed to form an alliance with verm.
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I put that in to show you the difference between original text and your fake pm. If you are going to try to fool us, you should have done it better, like what I did in minesweeper.
Aside from that, you've played a decent game.
MVP goes to Verm for fooling everyone, and almost winning the game, if it wasn't for jub's clever plan.
gay
you're welcome
XD