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I noticed that nobody has made this yet, so I thought I would. E3 2012 is only 3 or 4 days away. What games do you guys want to see there? I sure hope that Nintendo will be able to make the Wii U look appealing with neat games for it.

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Pikmin 3

I found way too much entertainment in that Kefka.


It's also funny cause that's probably the most interesting thing that will come out of this E3- fan-made hype. Unless they can pull off an awesome SSB4 by some odd chance?

Quote from: Olimar12345 on June 02, 2012, 02:24:30 PMPikmin 3

That, and Animal Crossing 3D, Smash Bros 4, Super Mario Brothers Wii U, Luigi's Mansion 2, any anything else they might show or anything else I forgot.

Smash Bros and Luigi's Mansion are the only things I'm looking for right now. The Wii U just seems. . . desperate. They realized that people like controllers more, but didn't want to give up the motion control-like ideas. I might have to get it just to play the new games though.

This needs to be stickied like last year's.

Stickied in a barely active forum?

kefka's first post = pure epicness

on-topic:
idk, I want surprises. I'm already expecting Paper Mario and Luigi's Mansion and the other ones that was announced already to have more news.
Smash Bros just started development, so I don't really expect anything from that. Maybe some info on how the 3DS to Wii U will work perhaps

New games?
Earthbound, Spyro The Dragon 4 (a continuing on the PS1 classics, which is as good as the classics too), Sonic Heroes 2 (heck, I can dream, can't I?)
Actually I really have no idea about this year. I would want a new Lufia now since I've gotten into that franchise now, but I doubt it.
High odds on all of those games :/

Earthbound? I wish... but I doubt we're ever gonna get it.

I don't care about anything. I just want Pikmin 3, I've been waiting patiently for 8 years now, so I'd just like to see something from that game, even if it's just conceptual work.

Nintendo Direct Pre E3 2012  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AkPdAWfFjI&feature=g-u-)

Pro Controller, thank God.

It's funny because normally I would say something about Diablo III at E3 and cry on the inside, but now Diablo III has been released and since I can't run it I still cry on the inside.

I wonder if Super Mario Bros on the Wii U will be fun. It looks cool enough, but to be honest, I'm not sure how it will work with the new tablet controller.

Half Life 3!

heh.....



:(

Lol, I just started daydreaming about what life would be like if NAMCO was revived and began establishing a monopoly on video game consoles. . . Sorry, I meant daynightmare.

I came across this the other day. Relevant?

Can't wait for E3! Pikmin 3 please!

Saw the new Theatrythm Final Fantasy's trailer, I want that game omg Q_Q

So far I have only seen positive things from Nintendo. Miiverse actually looks really nice and the Pro Controller is probably a life-savior (even though I'm one of those who plays Brawl with the Remote/Nunchuck)

NSMBM looks like a game I'll pick up later on, I enjoyed playing NSMBW with my cousins a lot.

The new Tomb Raider looks nice, but I still haven't seen a single game yet from Microsoft's lineup that I'm interested in yet. Oh well, trailers are still popping up on youtube, I never watched the full stream

Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on June 03, 2012, 08:53:40 PMHalf Life 3!

heh.....



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Quote from: fabbemannen on June 04, 2012, 11:59:41 AMSo far I have only seen positive things from Nintendo.

http://www.viddler.com/v/7d40ebdc?secret=78568394
Nice try.

Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on June 04, 2012, 09:46:20 PMhttp://www.viddler.com/v/7d40ebdc?secret=78568394
Nice try.

"non-specific action figure" cracks me up everytime XD

What's the problem with that commercial/info-mercial?

Dishonored looks pretty sweet. Might actually buy it.

I missed it again?!

...anything good?

Still 3 days left bro. Unless your talking about one of the press conferences.

Nintendo is the last one, June 5, 9 PT, less than 9 hours from this post.

Gotta love Miyamoto. Lol.

No Olimar in Pikmin 3...?  :(

Nintendo presser was meh. Most interesting new content was Pikmin 3 and new Paper Mario. Otherwise, everything was just 3rd party games that have been on other consoles already and already announced titles without much more to show. (New Super Mario Bros, Luigis Mansion) Ubisoft zombie game is kind of interesting? But then they just went into all the gimmicky party games and stuff I was afraid they would have too much of with Wii U :\ Not even any new 3DS hardware and really there weren't any big game reveals.... hopefully there will be more later in the conference but eh.

No pricing or more specific launch details either ._. I guess news of 2 gamepad use is nice but it's just another "well we actually can't show you anything but it's potential..!" that I really don't like to see from them anymore

I'm hoping that the dedicated 3DS conference will have some new game reveals and possibly something about hardware, maybe enough to make me finally consider a purchase. The nintendoland deal is amusing but being that it's nothing but 11 minigames in one package makes me a bit annoyed that they spent so much time on it. Especially ending with it, didn't seem like a good move at all.

There still is the dev roundtable tonight however, so I would expect additional announcements at that point.


I wasn't able to watch the other two much, but the trailers from Sony's event plus wherever Watch Dogs came from were definitely the best of the conference.  Also, the new Splinter Cell game looks fantastic.

In case anyone missed it: PIKMIN 3

I just wanted Pikmin 3, so I'm happy.

Anyone else notice that there aren't any White or Purple Pikmin in the trainer?  ??? Sure hope they get put in the game...

Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon is a strange name (though it's FAR better than Paper Mario STICKER STAR which sounds retarded) but it looks promising.

I wasn't a HUGE fan of Nintendo's press conference because 75% of the stuff that looks mildly promising, we've already heard of or know about.

Scribblenauts Unlimited, hurrah! I'm glad there's another one of these games. It looks awesome.

also lol those names srsly

I hope tomorrow's conference, which I have to miss completely in lieu for studying for a huge test, is 3DS... we better get Animal Crossing info.

I found it to be just meh. A few of the games looked kinda fun like New Super Mario Bros. 2, but there wasn't the explosion of epic new games you would expect with a new system. Also, NintendoLand? What's up with that? From what I gathered it's serves the same purpose as Wii Sports for the Wii, but I didn't get any hints that it would come with the system (which it should). I'm looking forward to new 3DS features much more than the Wii U.

Quote from: blueflower999 on June 05, 2012, 01:02:14 PMAnyone else notice that there aren't any White or Purple Pikmin in the trainer?  ??? Sure hope they get put in the game...

When you see the intro, you can see flying Pikmin. They weren't introduced at all during the presentation, so you can be sure there are more Pikmin waiting to be introduced. Let's just hope the white and purple aren't forgotten in this game.

Quote from: blueflower999 on June 05, 2012, 09:24:59 AMNo Olimar in Pikmin 3...?  :(

They said they had a good reason for that. For now, I'm waiting for a good back story on these leaders.

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Reggi's flame eyes....I...I don't...even...Reggi's flame eyes...

E3 ended up being like Facebook stock.

Personally I liked the showcasing of the Wii U hardware and basic stuff in it, while the games for it just was meh.
I'll probably get the 2 NSMB-games and Paper Mario. Hopefully Luigi's Mansion later on too.

Oh well, I'm waiting the 3DS-conference

About the winner so far, Ubisoft. Rayman Legends will be one of my first games on the Wii U without a doubt

Hey, the 3DS show is still today, so I'll still keep my fingers crossed.

3DS Fire Emblem announced for US. Do want.
https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/210570017471864833

but yet

No Animal Crossing. -hangs head in depression-

Was awake to 4 in the night so I could watch the 3DS-conference. Big disappointment, not a single new game

At this point I'm pretty glad I didn't get a 3DS. Definitely a gimmick they're not going to grow with.

Nintendo why you suck this year??

Nintendo CEO:"So What do we do for a new Wii U game guys?"
 Game Desinger :"I know! *Takes Super Mario Bros*
 Nintendo Staff: "Wait...It's dangerous! You dont know what your doing!!!"
 Game designer: *Adds a U*
 Rest of the world:"IT WORKED!! A COMPLETELY NEW AND ORIGINAL GAME!!! TAKE ALL MY MONEY!!"

Eh I'm more worried about the Wii-U. There are plenty of promising 3DS games in the works.

I'm not worried about either of them, everyone should know by now that good games will come out eventually (some already have though).
Zelda 3DS have already been hinted enough to be announced in a near future btw

I'm starting to wonder how good Zelda is going to be. I see a decline. They already made their best game 4 different times (N64, GCN, Wii VC, 3DS), and I feel like their ultimate game was Skyward Sword because it had so many throwbacks and hints at previous games. Don't get me wrong, I love Zelda, but I can only see three options:

1. It slowly declines in originality, but is still popular because it's Zelda.
2. They decide to make a throwback game that looks like a restored A Link to the Past, but with a different story.
3. The Wii U, or some new aspect of the 3DS, gives them an escape that helps with a new idea for a theme, and the next one is a good installment to the series, but it must then go back to one of the first two.

^Miyamoto said in an interview that they want to please both the casual and the hardcore gamers with the next Zelda game. I honestly have no idea as to how they're going to be able to please both crowds. They should just focusing about said crowds and make awesome games, like they used to with the SNES and the N64. Also the WiiU Zelda game's in the R&D phase, so we may hear about it next year. Oh and I read in another interview that the WiiU launch price in Japan will be 20,000 ¥, which is ~250$.

I've been really busy this week and I finally had time to watch both Nintendo and Sony's conferences today and... omg the Nintendo one sucked. Ending the conference with Nintendo Land? Really? I am disappoint.

Just to be clear:

Quote from: Zunawe on June 07, 2012, 10:19:52 AMThey already made they're best game...

INCORRECT USE OF THEY'RE

Quote from: Roz~ on June 07, 2012, 02:12:13 PMI honestly have no idea as to how they're going to be able to please both crowds.

CORRECT USE OF THEY'RE

I'm sorry! I don't know why I do that! That's twice now. To be fair, the only language you are allowed to use all caps in is German. . . . I don't make these kinds of mistakes. . . not my fault. . . mistake. . .

Quote from: Olimar12345 on June 07, 2012, 04:50:43 PMJust to be clear:
INCORRECT USE OF THEY'RE
CORRECT USE OF THEY'RE

Bro, take a chill pill :P

Shado, I'd just like to clarify, is your avatar Iwata staring at bananas then staring at me fervently?

Quote from: SlowPokemon on June 07, 2012, 05:56:03 PMShado, I'd just like to clarify, is your avatar Iwata staring at bananas then staring at me fervently?

No. you're just seeing things :P

He's obviously holding plantains, not bananas.

These look fun.

Project P-100 (http://youtu.be/xiEel201nyo)
Game & Wario (http://youtu.be/I6_5LZiSNIA)

They should've shown those two games during their conference.

Now THEY look cool. Seeing that brings my hopes up for the Wii U. :D

I think the Wii U will do bettr than most people will assume after watching E3. It seems the overall reaction for Nintendo was polarizing this year, between the people who watched online and the people who got to experience the games. Most of the complaints I see revolve around a lack luster presentation (fair enough) and Nintendo Land, yet Nintendo Land has gotten high praise from the audience at E3. I think we'll see some more stuff from Nintendo in the coming months, though I doubt we'll see anything from Mario or Zelda before the Holidays.

Quote from: MaestroUGC on June 08, 2012, 01:32:17 AMI think the Wii U will do bettr than most people will assume after watching E3. It seems the overall reaction for Nintendo was polarizing this year, between the people who watched online and the people who got to experience the games. Most of the complaints I see revolve around a lack luster presentation (fair enough) and Nintendo Land, yet Nintendo Land has gotten high praise from the audience at E3. I think we'll see some more stuff from Nintendo in the coming months, though I doubt we'll see anything from Mario or Zelda before the Holidays.

Agree with everything in here.  Nintendo Land actually looks a LOT better than Wii Sports, and Pikmin 3 just looks amazing.  I guess NSMBU looks fun, but doesn't seem that different from the Wii title.

Quote from: Zunawe on June 07, 2012, 10:19:52 AM*Zelda-related quote*

I both hope and assume that it will be similar to Twilight Princess.
Actually it wouldn't surprise me if both the 3DS-Zelda and WiiU-Zelda will be similar to Twilight Princess (for 3DS, a mix between TP and OoT)

@maestro I have high hopes for the Wii U. Cheap price and it's a winner.
I see so many possibilities with the Gamepad (Mii Chase looked epic at last years E3)

Does anybody else always use Deku Sticks to beat Deadhand in the BotW?

You are REALLY good at topic derailing... lol :3

Is sorry. . . but E3 is basically over, and we can only say the same thing so many times.

Quote from: Zunawe on June 09, 2012, 02:59:33 PMIs sorry. . . but E3 is basically over, and we can only say the same thing so many times.

Isn't the Wii U fabulous? Isn't the Wii U fabulous? Isn't the Wii U fabulous? Isn't the Wii U fabulous? Isn't the Wii U fabulous? Isn't the Wii U fabulous? Isn't the Wii U fabulous? Isn't the Wii U fabulous? Isn't the Wii U fabulous? Isn't the Wii U fabulous? Isn't the Wii U fabulous? Isn't the Wii U fabulous? :P

Quote from: fingerz on June 12, 2012, 02:46:23 PMIsn't the Wii U fabulous? Isn't the Wii U fabulous? Isn't the Wii U fabulous? Isn't the Wii U fabulous? Isn't the Wii U fabulous? Isn't the Wii U fabulous? Isn't the Wii U fabulous? Isn't the Wii U fabulous? Isn't the Wii U fabulous? Isn't the Wii U fabulous? Isn't the Wii U fabulous? Isn't the Wii U fabulous? :P

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Well according to the poll, no one was really totally satisfied with this year's E3. I have to agree, I was sort of hoping for a little big more from the Big N. But at least I got Pikmin 3.

The only thing I was expecting from Nintendo was Pikmin 3, so I went home very happy.

One thing I've learned after watching E3 for years now, don't expect anything. Sure you can look for a game or two, but if you expect for a company to always produce A+ titles each year you will only leave disappointed. No expectations means no disappointment.

Also, I keep hearing how people are mad over the lack of Smash 4...I don't get it either.

Well they made an announcement saying it would come. Of course, that doesn't mean it would be right away. So idk either.

And I dunno Maestro, Pixar seems to make fantastic movies each year, always meeting their marks. It's definitely possible to be A+ every year.

Quote from: spitllama on June 12, 2012, 04:59:35 PMWell they made an announcement saying it would come. Of course, that doesn't mean it would be right away. So idk either.

And I dunno Maestro, Pixar seems to make fantastic movies each year, always meeting their marks. It's definitely possible to be A+ every year.

No, they don't. Cars was abysmal, as was the second. And Brave is getting some meh reviews from what I've seen. Most of the others are good, though, my favorite being Ratatouille.

*complete topic derail* Slow, how could you say that about Cars 2???

Eh it was sort of enjoyable, but not a masterpiece.

That I can understand.  I completely agree about the first one.

Quote from: MaestroUGC on June 12, 2012, 04:37:43 PMAlso, I keep hearing how people are mad over the lack of Smash 4...I don't get it either.

They really shouldn't be. The game's very early in development at this point.

The development for Smash 4 at this point is as such:

[All the primary developers sitting at a table]
...
...
...
..."Anybody have any ideas?"

Ummmm, there was quite a bit of coverage on the new Super Smash Bros. actually. I can't believe you guys didn't see it! They're adding all new characters like Sly Cooper, Kratos, the Big Daddy, and even Fat Princess! It's incredible!

Quote from: SlowPokemon on June 12, 2012, 06:13:38 PMNo, they don't. Cars was abysmal, as was the second. And Brave is getting some meh reviews from what I've seen. Most of the others are good, though, my favorite being Ratatouille.

But you get my point. Consistently, annually, they're successful. 2 sucky movies from different years ≠ full year of suckiness (like Nintendo)

Lol, we have two different conversations going on at once.

Quote from: SuperFireKirby on June 12, 2012, 07:31:18 PMUmmmm, there was quite a bit of coverage on the new Super Smash Bros. actually. I can't believe you guys didn't see it! They're adding all new characters like Sly Cooper, Kratos, the Big Daddy, and even Fat Princess! It's incredible!

Where did you see this? Show us!

Quote from: Zunawe on June 12, 2012, 07:53:59 PMLol, we have two different conversations going on at once.

Where did you see this? Show us!

Did you even read his post? :P

Quote from: SuperFireKirby on June 12, 2012, 07:31:18 PMUmmmm, there was quite a bit of coverage on the new Super Smash Bros. actually. I can't believe you guys didn't see it! They're adding all new characters like Sly Cooper, Kratos, the Big Daddy, and even Fat Princess! It's incredible!

OMG, I've never seen a reading on my troll-dar this high before!  I can't tell if you are just trying troll n00bs hard, or are just that ignorant!

Quote from: SlowPokemon on June 12, 2012, 08:11:13 PMDid you even read his post? :P

Let me rephrase that:

[sarcasm]Where did you see this? Show us![/sarcasm]

Is that better?

Quote from: the_last_sheikah on June 12, 2012, 08:16:42 PMOMG, I've never seen a reading on my troll-dar this high before!  I can't tell if you are just trying troll n00bs hard, or are just that ignorant!

Actually I was just making a joke at how similar Sony All-Stars Battle Royale is to Super Smash Bros.

^ Actually looked entertaining, surprisingly

Sure! It can be entertaining. But it's such a ripoff and everybody who plays video games knows it.

So, people will still buy it.

Overall, I thought that E3 2012 was pretty good, but it could have been a little better. In my opinion, either Nintendo or Sony (out of the "big three" companies) won the show; Nintendo covered both of its major systems, the 3DS and the upcoming Wii U, while Sony had an overall better lineup for its games. Don't get me started on Microsoft...
For Nintendo, I would have liked to see a little more games relating to the "major franchises": e.g. Metroid, Donkey Kong, Zelda, Pokemon, etc. Although they presented 'Nintendo Land', it could have been much more, or something that would make viewers REALLY be excited for the Wii U.
As I heard on IGN, Sony didn't really show off very many (or any at all :P) of its Vita games. E3 would have been an amazing chance to attempt to increase Vita sales.

Nintendo could have been ALOT stronger with the Wii U. SMBU, Nintendo Land, and game that were released on 360 and PS3 months ago? Not selling it for me.

Quote from: SuperFireKirby on June 14, 2012, 02:30:55 PMNintendo could have been ALOT stronger with the Wii U. SMBU, Nintendo Land, and game that were released on 360 and PS3 months ago? Not selling it for me.

It doesn't matter whether the games were released months ago, it just matters how good they are, and how good the Wii U's launch titles will be.
You're also forgetting games like Pikmin 3, and even the dreaded Wii Fit U.  :o

Hype sells games. Batman just won't seem as fun now because it's "Oh, they're re-releasing Arkham City," instead of "They're making Arkham City!"

Also, I feel like Wii Fit U just sounds awkward.

^freakin pikmin 3

I've gotten that. . . Multiple times. . .

Quote from: Zunawe on June 14, 2012, 03:12:18 PMAlso, I feel like Wii Fit U just sounds awkward.

XD XD XD

Just about all of the 3rd party launch titles are ports of games that have been out for months/years, so it's pretty awkward actually.

Quote from: Zunawe on June 14, 2012, 03:12:18 PMHype sells games. Batman just won't seem as fun now because it's "Oh, they're re-releasing Arkham City," instead of "They're making Arkham City!"

Also, I feel like Wii Fit U just sounds awkward.

Not all people own the consoles that those games originally came out on; people aren't going to buy a PS3 JUST for Arkham City. Dedicated Nintendo fans will have just another reason to buy the Wii U, and new customers (mostly coming from other systems) will be enticed to 'try' the Wii U out because they know Arkham City is such a good game, and 'stay' for the (hopefully) Nintendo exclusives.
Nintendo got a bit behind in the console race, especially with the Wii (mostly for the fact that it does not have as powerful processing power as, say, the PS3). I feel like the Wii U is, using the PS3 example, almost like a PS3.5, instead of like a PS4.

That's why I used the word "dreaded" in front of "Wii Fit U." :P

But if Nintendo wants to win over PS3 and Xbox players who look at Nintendo as the non-hardcore friendly company, they need games that those players have not played before. New games> Old games every time.

The problem is that there are hardly any first party Nintendo released in the first place, and recently fewer still haven't been gimmicked to hell.  All third party games are superior on other platforms (mostly PC)

Quote from: SuperFireKirby on June 14, 2012, 06:05:13 PMBut if Nintendo wants to win over PS3 and Xbox players who look at Nintendo as the non-hardcore friendly company, they need games that those players have not played before. New games> Old games every time.

Ah, not always true, especially with older, "classic" games. And, plus, as I mentioned, Nintendo has its own lineup of new, exclusive, games. Just because a game is new doesn't mean that everyone's going to play it; it has to be good as well.

Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on June 14, 2012, 06:15:59 PMThe problem is that there are hardly any first party Nintendo released in the first place, and recently fewer still haven't been gimmicked to hell.  All third party games are superior on other platforms (mostly PC)

Legend of Zelda Skyward Sword, is a relatively recent release on the Wii...
Upcoming: The Mario games (including Paper Mario and Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon), Pikmin 3; and that's just for the first few titles. Think of what's to come in the following months!

slowpoke.jpg

Quote from: SlowPokemon on June 14, 2012, 08:48:06 PMslowpoke.jpg

I most certainly hope that you are not referring to ME!?  >:(

Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on June 14, 2012, 09:14:09 PMI most certainly hope that you are not referring to ME!?  >:(

No, he's referring to himself, he IS slowpokemon, after all
(sarcasm)

Yes, hardly.  That's the one Wii game released in the last year that has been remotely interesting.  Kirby games were meh.  Maybe DKC was decent, though I never played it.

I wasn't speaking about 3DS, that's a different problem.  I don't recall if Pikmin was supposed to be a launch title, but still that's one game that I might care about.  The new mario games aren't anything interesting or different like Mario Galaxy was, but rather glorified expansion packs for New Super Mario Bros.

It's good that they're finally gotten some decent titles out on 3DS, but I'm still going to wait until the new hardware is out whether it's a remodel or next generation.

I suppose being stuck as a Nintendo fanboy makes you ignorant of how little the platform gets in terms of content.

Major games released on most every other platform in just the past 6 months:

Mass Effect 3
Max Payne 3
Diablo 3
Kingdom of Amalur: Reckoning
Soul Caliber V

And there were plenty more released in the holiday season of 2011 as well as a bunch I didn't list for 2012.

Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on June 15, 2012, 12:43:18 AMYes, hardly.  That's the one Wii game released in the last year that has been remotely interesting.  Kirby games were meh.  Maybe DKC was decent, though I never played it.

I wasn't speaking about 3DS, that's a different problem.  I don't recall if Pikmin was supposed to be a launch title, but still that's one game that I might care about.  The new mario games aren't anything interesting or different like Mario Galaxy was, but rather glorified expansion packs for New Super Mario Bros.

It's good that they're finally gotten some decent titles out on 3DS, but I'm still going to wait until the new hardware is out whether it's a remodel or next generation.

I suppose being stuck as a Nintendo fanboy makes you ignorant of how little the platform gets in terms of content.

Major games released on most every other platform in just the past 6 months:

Mass Effect 3
Max Payne 3
Diablo 3
Kingdom of Amalur: Reckoning
Soul Caliber V

And there were plenty more released in the holiday season of 2011 as well as a bunch I didn't list for 2012.

I am not merely a Nintendo fanboy.
The 3DS has plenty of good titles: Kid Icarus Uprising, Star Fox 64 3D, Ocarina of Time 3D, Pokemon Rumble Blast! :P In addition to those, they also have classics on the EShop and the DS-i Ware games.
Back on the subject of Mario games: Well, that's Mario games! For most of the games, it keeps the same basic formula,  but adds something a little different to each game.

Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on June 14, 2012, 06:00:37 PMNot all people own the consoles that those games originally came out on; people aren't going to buy a PS3 JUST for Arkham City. Dedicated Nintendo fans will have just another reason to buy the Wii U, and new customers (mostly coming from other systems) will be enticed to 'try' the Wii U out because they know Arkham City is such a good game, and 'stay' for the (hopefully) Nintendo

I don't get this portion of your post. If someone only had a wii and wanted to play games like  arkham city, why the hell would they wait for a release? They'd still have to buy another console to play it.

 My God, it's supposed to be about the games, not the consoles...

Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on June 15, 2012, 02:05:49 AMI am not merely a Nintendo fanboy.
The 3DS has plenty of good titles: Kid Icarus Uprising, Star Fox 64 3D, Ocarina of Time 3D, Pokemon Rumble Blast! :P In addition to those, they also have classics on the EShop and the DS-i Ware games.
Back on the subject of Mario games: Well, that's Mario games! For most of the games, it keeps the same basic formula,  but adds something a little different to each game.

Alright: of the four 3DS games you mentioned... two are remakes, and one is Pokemon Rumble Blast, which while somewhat fun for a brief time isn't really a great title. I don't own the game, but I have played it. Kid Icarus is good based on everything I've heard though, as is Super Mario 3D Land, Cave Story 3D (the original version of which is available on the eShop), and Mario Kart 7. And New Super Mario Bros. 2 does look promising. The problem is, so many remakes are being showcased and not enough new material. Even promising games like NSMB 2 are still using the same old formula (albeit in a new way).

Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on June 15, 2012, 12:43:18 AMKirby games were meh. 

Both Epic Yarn and Return to Dreamland were quite good, actually. But yeah pretty much everything else you said was completely accurate.

If Nintendo wants to win people over, they can have all the fancy, new gizmo's they like. But if they don't have exciting, new titles to back it up then it will just be a another disappointment in the eyes of Nintendo fans, hard-core gamers, and everyone else not in the family/casual gaming scope of consumers.

Zelda, DK, Kirby, Starfox, POKEMON STADIUM, EARTHBBOUND(how awesome would that be?). Where are the 1st party games that would really blow us away? They ain't there.

Cave Story doesn't really count either since it's an ancient PC game any reasonable person would have played multiple times before the 3DS was even announced.

Exactly my point, it wasn't anything new. It was good, like the other remakes, but nothing new.

Quote from: Olimar12345 on June 15, 2012, 02:20:11 AMI don't get this portion of your post. If someone only had a wii and wanted to play games like  arkham city, why the hell would they wait for a release? They'd still have to buy another console to play it.

 My God, it's supposed to be about the games, not the consoles...

Those are people who are going to buy a Wii U anyway (Nintendo's loyal customers, people newer to consoles, etc.); not just for one specific game... that's not even an exclusive.

Quote from: SuperFireKirby on June 15, 2012, 10:00:54 AMBoth Epic Yarn and Return to Dreamland were quite good, actually. But yeah pretty much everything else you said was completely accurate.

If Nintendo wants to win people over, they can have all the fancy, new gizmo's they like. But if they don't have exciting, new titles to back it up then it will just be a another disappointment in the eyes of Nintendo fans, hard-core gamers, and everyone else not in the family/casual gaming scope of consumers.

Zelda, DK, Kirby, Starfox, POKEMON STADIUM, EARTHBBOUND(how awesome would that be?). Where are the 1st party games that would really blow us away? They ain't there.

...I, personally, can do without Earthbound. :P
But a revival of a true Pokemon Stadium would tie in well with Black 2 and White 2.

Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on June 15, 2012, 11:11:40 AMCave Story doesn't really count either since it's an ancient PC game any reasonable person would have played multiple times before the 3DS was even announced.

Well, I guess I'm not a "reasonable person?" :P
I haven't even played it yet...  ::)

You're not a reasonable person for not wanting another EarthBound game. Also, triple post...?

Just put it all into one long one.

I've never played EarthBound, but it looks cool, and I'll have to try it somehow.

Quote from: blueflower999 on June 15, 2012, 12:07:21 PMYou're not a reasonable person for not wanting another EarthBound game. Also, triple post...?

I was responding to three different posts; I'm used to other forums, and I find it harder to respond to multiple people in one giant post on this forum.
I do not like Earthbound; it is quite weird (not only Giygas, both most of the whole thing :P), and doesn't really appeal to me overall. I despise playing as Ness and Lucas and Super Smash Brothers Brawl, being that they don't deal much damage, and don't take a lot of hits easily without just flying off the stage (that's why their stage is so huge: to give them an advantage :P). Their final smashes are a bit lackluster, as I see the games. :P

Lol, don't deal much damage? Have you ever tried Smash Up with Lucas? Also, how does how good of a game you think Earthbound is translate to how good the SSB characters are?

Quote from: Zunawe on June 15, 2012, 01:03:55 PMLol, don't deal much damage? Have you ever tried Smash Up with Lucas? Also, how does how good of a game you think Earthbound is translate to how good the SSB characters are?

^this, also their stage doesn't give them an advantage, nor does playing as them require you to choose that stage

Quote from: Zunawe on June 15, 2012, 01:03:55 PMLol, don't deal much damage? Have you ever tried Smash Up with Lucas? Also, how does how good of a game you think Earthbound is translate to how good the SSB characters are?

Yes, especially worthless when your opponent knocks you up in the air. :P

And, good sir, I do not believe that you actually read my post: I NEVER once said that I did not like the game because of their SSBB characters, nor any correlation between these two things; merely a fact I pointed out. We are on the topic of Nintendo, aren't we?

Quotethis, also their stage doesn't give them an advantage, nor does playing as them require you to choose that stage

Why does it seem that, everywhere I go, every single person insists on utterly misenterpreting my words, and taking their definition as truth, using them to generalize me? Is it a lack of communication and emotion that arises on the internet?  :o
While we're on the topic of Brawl, yes, their stage does give them quite an advantage: they can easily flee, and dash around the stage; if they are knocked back, they usually end up farther from the edge of the stage. The large distance makes it easier for them to use their PK Thunder attack to push themselves back up. As I have pointed out, I did not once say that you are "required" to choose their stage.

You said:

Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on June 15, 2012, 12:58:28 PMI do not like Earthbound; it is quite weird (not only Giygas, both most of the whole thing :P), and doesn't really appeal to me overall.

And immediately jumped to:

Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on June 15, 2012, 12:58:28 PMI despise playing as Ness and Lucas and Super Smash Brothers Brawl, being that they don't deal much damage, and don't take a lot of hits easily without just flying off the stage (that's why their stage is so huge: to give them an advantage :P). Their final smashes are a bit lackluster, as I see the games. :P

I didn't see any break in the flow of what you were saying, so I assumed that you were linking the ideas.

Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on June 15, 2012, 01:12:46 PMWhile we're on the topic of Brawl, yes, their stage does give them quite an advantage: they can easily flee, and dash around the stage; if they are knocked back, they usually end up farther from the edge of the stage. The large distance makes it easier for them to use their PK Thunder attack to push themselves back up.

Technically, don't most of those ideas apply to. . . any player. Excluding the PK attack of course.

Quote from: Zunawe on June 15, 2012, 01:23:24 PMTechnically, don't most of those ideas apply to. . . any player. Excluding the PK attack of course.

Let's take Ike, for example (one of my favorite characters to use): He doesn't move too fast, deals TONS of damage, can take some hits before he's knocked back, and has a "finisher" final smash, although it does miss sometimes. Almost like a slightly lighter Ganondorf or Bowser.
He's better on stages like Final Destination, where his opponents can't run from him; where he can smash them up, and knock them off with a powerful blow (his counterattack also comes in handy in such close quarters combat). On larger stages, characters like Pit can easily hide and attack him as he's trying to march toward them.

Meta Knight, often considered on of the best characters, although good, is quite overhyped...
He's very fast, and is good on most stages, but with speed comes inaccuracy. If he misses even once, it leaves him vulnerable to an attack from characters like Ike or Donkey Kong; and with one attack comes a full fury. A master player can slay opponents with him, but they must be careful against others of their skill. I'm still a little on-the-edge with Meta Knight, and haven't brought him to such full potential.

Ah, how we've strayed far from the original discussion... :P

What does Brawl have anything to do with franchises that might be brought over to the Wii U?

I doubt we will see anthing new from Earthbound anytime soon, quite possibly ever. As far as Nintendo other big franchises go, Zelda nor a 3D Mario were launch titles for the Wii, but they did come to great success. I'd rather wait for those few great games when the developers understand the fullest potential of this new system, rather than put out a lack luster product.

Sure, these few announced launch titles leave much to be desired, but keep in mind, there is still another five months for any meaningful announcements regarding games.

Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on June 15, 2012, 01:39:16 PMLotsa Brawl Stuff

What does that have anything to do with what I said?

(Does anybody want to say anything about my topic derailing skills anymore? ::))

I don't really want a breakthrough in new controls, because that means a bunch of gimmicky games that try to show off the uses. I want a good Zelda game (as an example) with a normal controller so that I can actually feel like Nintendo is trying to focus on pleasing their audience more than attracting a new audience.

Quote from: MaestroUGC on June 15, 2012, 01:51:34 PMWhat does Brawl have anything to do with franchises that might be brought over to the Wii U?

I doubt we will see anthing new from Earthbound anytime soon, quite possibly ever. As far as Nintendo other big franchises go, Zelda nor a 3D Mario were launch titles for the Wii, but they did come to great success. I'd rather wait for those few great games when the developers understand the fullest potential of this new system, rather than put out a lack luster product.

Sure, these few announced launch titles leave much to be desired, but keep in mind, there is still another five months for any meaningful announcements regarding games.

Well, first, we were talking about what we wanted to see on the Wii U, which lead to Earthbound, which lead to a discussion of SSBB. At least it's still Nintendo related...

As many have said, if these are the titles that will come out early on, imagine what will come out later? Many of the launch titles of the PS3 were rather mediocre, and yet look at the games now! Uncharted, LittleBigPlanet, Playstation All Stars Battle Royale (coming soon), Arkham Asylum and City (as were mentioned earlier), and even the download games like the Pixeljunk series, Comet Crash, and titles from previous games, including many Final Fantasy games.

Your basing your opinion of a game off of how much you like the characters in Super Smash Bros.? -_-

You know what? You don't deserve an opinion so I'm not even going to argue with you.

Quote from: SuperFireKirby on June 15, 2012, 03:06:26 PMYour basing your opinion of a game off of how much you like the characters in Super Smash Bros.? -_-

You know what? You don't deserve an opinion so I'm not even going to argue with you.

 >:( I NEVER SAID THAT. You seem to insist on misinterpretting every single word I say.
Certainly someone who can't even get another person's words right isn't able to argue?  :-\

No forums allow triple posting.  The proper way to do it is to have multiple quotes in a single post.

Also, "I NEVER SAID THAT" is not a valid rebuttal.

Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on June 15, 2012, 03:30:09 PMNo forums allow triple posting.  The proper way to do it is to have multiple quotes in a single post.

Also, "I NEVER SAID THAT" is not a valid rebuttal.

I'm used to quoting each person individually... I'm still new here, so I don't know too much about how the forum works.

"The act of refuting something by making a contrary argument, or presenting contrary evidence." Yes, it is a valid rebuttal, at least by the technical definition: it is stating that the person's source is inaccurate, and, by extension, what they said about me.
I am willing to show respect in a debate unless the person deliberately misquotes me with the intention of (in some cases, maliciously) furthering their arguement or discrediting me.

Guys, let's not turn this topic into a real Brawl.  BlackDragonSlayer, it did sort of seem that you were basing your opinion of a game on their characters in Super Smash Bros., but that's obviously not what you meant, so I believe you.  SFK, you misundersdtood him.  Not a huge deal.  Let's just move on.

Restart E3 topic:
Wii U looks okay, but it looks like Nintendo is trying too hard to be original with their console. Like I said before, I'd rather just have good games than games with cool-for-a-little-bit controls.

*Stuff in argument forgotten*

Zunawe uses his power of the topic derail for good!

True, but the Wii U will be far more flexible than the Wii was, since not every game can use motion controls to their greatest effect or just throw them in just to use them, far more developers will be able to use the Game Pad in a conventional sense, and at its most basic an items screen for quick and fluent action. The Game Pad is far more conventional of a controller than the Wii-mote ever was, plus you can switch it out with the Pro Controller for a standard gaming experience.

I see great potential for the Wii U, it's up to the developers to waste it.

Quote from: Olimar12345 on June 15, 2012, 07:14:14 PMZunawe uses his power of the topic derail for good!

I love you Olimar.

Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on June 15, 2012, 03:30:09 PMNo forums allow triple posting.

Unless it's me in the tinychat thread. Remember that, kids.

Quote from: MaestroUGC on June 15, 2012, 07:48:05 PMI see great potential for the Wii U, it's up to the developers to waste it.

That's, quite unfortunately, true.
The motion controls of the Wii were wasted on terrible third-party games that used motion controls in the most gimmicky ways imaginable. I don't think that they took the Wii very seriously; after all, the console's main form of control is motion (and we've seen what has happened with Kinect and even PS Move).
Hopefully, the potential of the Wii U isn't as 'exploitable' for the third-party developers.

Well the Wii U is basically a glorified Wii, so I don't see that getting much better.

Quote from: SlowPokemon on June 16, 2012, 12:47:20 PMWell the Wii U is basically a glorified Wii, so I don't see that getting much better.

It depends on how Nintendo approaches it... don't encourage games like that, instead, maybe make room for some good indie games? For example, have you seen that experimental game where you can shrink stuff and make it grow again, then make it larger, etc.?

Sounds like Alice in Wonderland, but no I haven't.

Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on June 16, 2012, 02:23:30 PMFor example, have you seen that experimental game where you can shrink stuff and make it grow again, then make it larger, etc.?

Does said game involve drinking potions and eating cake?

I doubt that the Wii U will make "hardcore" gamers (seriously, I don't see the hardcore) that uses the 360 and PS3 to buy the console, instead it's the other way around. The players that enjoy Nintendo firstparty games and more casual games might not want to buy the PS4/720 just to get those games that the Wii didn't have.
I got a Wii for Nintendo-games and a 360 for HD-games (racing and sports, the PC is for FPS and other actiongames), but now that the Wii U supports HD, those games I want might show up on the Wii U in the same quality and might even be better due to the gamepad (I seriously love the extra screen on the DS/3DS, OoT got so much better with it)

To sum it up: Current generation, you need a Wii and an HD-console. Next generation, you only need a Wii U if they get the third-party support they want.
Plus the free-to-play games the Wii U supports

Quote from: SlowPokemon on June 16, 2012, 07:06:01 PMSounds like Alice in Wonderland, but no I haven't.

http://www.ign.com/videos/2012/06/13/scale-developer-walkthrough-e3-2012

It looks quite interesting, although it's still in development.

btw, did anyone download the 3D trailers for LM2, PM:SS and NSMB2?
Luigi's Mansion's 3D was really impressive actually

If Slow hasn't seen this yet, he's about to go spend all his money on a PS3: 

http://kotaku.com/5915347/check-out-this-gorgeous-new-ni-no-kuni-trailer

Quote from: SuperFireKirby on June 19, 2012, 04:57:10 AMIf Slow hasn't seen this yet, he's about to go spend all his money on a PS3: 

http://kotaku.com/5915347/check-out-this-gorgeous-new-ni-no-kuni-trailer

I don't even want to be tormented XD and I'm already mad they aren't localizing the Nintendo DS version.... I have the soundtrack on my iPod though (courtesy of Hisaishi of course)

Hell, I might buy one now. It's combining my two favorite things to come from Japan. Studio Ghibli and FREAKING LEVEL-5.

Quote from: fabbemannen on June 19, 2012, 04:18:32 AMbtw, did anyone download the 3D trailers for LM2, PM:SS and NSMB2?
Luigi's Mansion's 3D was really impressive actually

Uh, yeah, my older brother and I downloaded all the trailers on our 3DS. The only problem with Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon is that the trailer looks a bit buggy- hopefully something they'll fix in the actual game.

Quote from: SuperFireKirby on June 19, 2012, 06:57:47 AMHell, I might buy one now. It's combining my two favorite things to come from Japan. Studio Ghibli and FREAKING LEVEL-5.

I've been considering buying one when I saw that Ni no Kuni was gonna be released on the PS3. I need more money TT_TT