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TWG XLIV: The Pokemon League
*Hosted by the_last_sheikah and Waddle Bro*

The game's universal effect: Items and Cardflip
Each player will be given 6 Balls, one for each set;
1 Master Ball
1 Ultra Ball
2 Great Balls
2 Poke Balls
Pokemon have special powers told in the description. EX: Smeragle, can paint a person once.
Each player will get a total of 6 Pokemon. You can catch your Pokemon Night 0, after the role PMs have been distributed. There will be no wolfing Night 0. In order to get the 6 Pokemon and a PM to the host with 6 Pokemon and the Balls you want to catch them. HOWEVER, if another player throws a Ball that has a better catch rate(Poke<Great<Ultra<Master) that player will get that Pokemon. Meaning the player's Ball will be wasted. If there are two same type of Balls on a Pokemon, the player who gets the Pokemon is chosen randomly. The loser wastes his/her Ball. All the Pokemon that get nobody chose, will randomly be given to people with 5 Pokemon or less so that every player has a total of 6 Pokemon. Players can trade their Pokemon with other players. In order to trade, both players have to approach the host by PM and tell what Pokemon they get, give and with who.

After all 12 players have signed in, the games begins and the roles and Pokemon will be given. You can use your Pokemon as items as many times as the Pokemon description tells. EX: "Smeragle, can paint a player once" After a Pokemon is no longer usable, it will faint.
A player can only use one Pokemon/phase.
A player can trade only one Pokemon in the entire game. You cannot trade fainted Pokemon.
Pokemon do not faint when a player dies.
Wolfings and starter powers happen by voting. EX: Players A, B and D are wolves. Player A and B vote for Player C. Player D votes for Player E. Player C=66% of the votes=Player C gets wolfed.

The Rivals(Wolves):

1. Rival
2. Rival
3. Rival

The wolves don't know eachother.

The Trainers(Humans):

4. Trainer
5. Trainer
6. Trainer
7. Trainer
8. Trainer
9. Trainer
10. Trainer
11. Trainer (will be told that (s)he's green)
12. Trainer (will be told that (s)he's green)

Starter Powers:
Grass:  Guardian (Night 1), Public Pokemon reveal(Night 2), Revive one Player (Night 3 until the end of the game)
Fire:  Stop the use of one Pokemon (Night 1), Give one player a Brutal power for the rest of the game (Night 2), Vigi (Night 3 until the end of the game)
Water:  Paint (Night 1), Psychic (Night 2, doesn't need a voting), Public Seering (Night 3 until the end of the game)

Starter Pokemon evolve every night.

SET 1:
STARTER, GRASS 1. Bulbasaur, if the player chooses the player with the Squirtle, the player will find out all of that player's Pokemon. One-time use.
STARTER, FIRE 2. Charmander, if the player chooses the player with the Bulbasaur, the player will find out all of that player's Pokemon. One-time use.
STARTER, WATER 3. Squirtle, if the player chooses the player with the Charmander, the player will find out all of that player's Pokemon. One-time use.
4. Rattata, the player can avoid a certain Pokemon's effect for one phase by PMing the host with the Pokemon's name. One-time use.
5. Pikachu, can make a player unable to use any Pokemon for one phase. One-time use.
6. Nidorina, if the player with this Pokemon is attacked by a Pokemon who's effect that is able to be used two times, that Pokemon will faint and nothing happens to the attacked player.
7. Clefable, the player can choose one player in the Night. After that Night is over, the player will be told what Pokemon did that player use that Night. Two-time use.
8. Jigglypuff, can make a player unable to use any Pokemon for one phase. One-time use.
9. Zubat, the player can choose two players during Night. The Pokemon of those two players will target each other this Night. One-time use.
10. Diglett, the player sends a PM during a phase. That player is immune to all effects for that phase. One-time use.
11. Alakazam, can seer a player during Night. One-time use.
12. Drowzee, the player can choose one player and a Pokemon that player has(must be correct, otherwise the power will be wasted). The chosen player will use that Pokemon. One-time use.

SET 2:
13. Electrode, when the player holding Electrode is lynched, he must choose one player(if not, the player will be chosen randomly). The person chosen will be announced publicly. That player is one vote away from an insta for the next Day Phase. Will happen automaticly.
14. Weezing, when the player holding Weezing is lynched, he must choose one player(if not, the player will be chosen randomly). The person chosen will not be announced publicly. That player is one vote away from an insta for the next Day Phase. Will happen automaticly.
15. Magikarp, nothing happens.
16. Ditto, the player chooses a player. Ditto will transform to one of that player's Pokemon for the next Night Phase. Cannot transform into a fainted Pokemon. One-time use.
STARTER, GRASS 17. Chikorita, if the player chooses the player with the Totodile, the player will find out all of that player's Pokemon. One-time use.
STARTER, FIRE 18. Cyndaquil, if the player chooses the player with the Chikorita, the player will find out all of that player's Pokemon. One-time use.
STARTER, WATER 19. Totodile, if the player chooses the player with the Cyndaquil, the player will find out all of that player's Pokemon. One-time use.
20. Xatu, can seer a player during Day. One-time use.
21. Azumarill, the player names a player. He/she will find out one randomly chosen Pokemon from that player. Two-time use.
22. Sudowoodo, the player can make a player immune to all effects this Phase. Two-time use.
23. Murkrow, When a player dies, the player can find out that player's team. One-time use.
24. Wobbuffet, the player can redirect a players' Pokemon targets. Can use this power more than once in a phase. Cannot redirect a power to the player(s) chosen. Three-time use.

SET 3:
25. Steelix, the player can steal a random Pokemon from a dead player. He/she will give this Pokemon to the dead player in exchange. One-time use.
26. Shuckle, can send a PM to a dead player and the dead player can answer it.(MUST BE SENT TO THE HOST, HE WILL SEND THAT PM TO THE OTHER PLAYER) The message is allowed to have max. 200 characters in it.
27. Delibird, May choose one Pokemon to trade to a specific player. The other person will have to chose a Pokemon to give to Delibird's owner. One-time use.
28. Smeragle, can paint a player. Three-time use.
29. Celebi, can go back or go forward in time a phase(no wolfings or lynchings will happen that phase) immediately after the PM has been sent, but two phases later you will skip/go back(opposite to the option chosen before one phase) one phase.(EX1: The player uses Celebi Day 1 to go back. No lynching happens. It's Night 1 again. BUT, Night 2 will be skipped, meaning after Day 1, there will be Day 2.  EX2: The player uses Celebi Night 2 to go forward in time to Day 2. No wolfing happens. BUT, after Day 2 ends, it'll be Night 2 again. One-time use.
STARTER, GRASS 30. Treecko, if the player chooses the player with the Mudkip, the player will find out all of that player's Pokemon. One-time use.
STARTER, FIRE 31. Torchic, if the player chooses the player with the Treecko, the player will find out all of that player's Pokemon. One-time use.
STARTER, WATER 32. Mudkip, if the player chooses the player with the Torchic, the player will find out all of that player's Pokemon. One-time use.
33. Ludicolo, the player can take one random wolfing vote and change it to a randomly chosen person. One-time use.
34. Shiftry, the player can choose a player. That player's Pokemon targets a randomly chosen person instead of the one it already targeted/targets. One-time use.
35. Gardevoir, can guard a player. Doesn't guard from Pokemon. One-time use.
36. Slakoth, the person holding this Pokemon can only use one Pokemon at Night. But that player can use his/her Pokemon twice every Night(making any "one-time uses" into "two-time uses and "two-time uses" into "four-time uses", but nothing will happen to "three-time uses"). Optional. The player must choose will (s)he use this option in Night 1.

SET 4:
37. Shedinja, the player holding Shedinja always wins in a KitB.
38. Loudred, in the beginning of Night 1, the player holding Loudred will be revealed. EX: Player A has Loudred!
39. Pluse, the player holding Pluse knows the color of the player holding Minun. Cannot be traded.
40. Minun, the player holding Minun knows the color of the player holding Pluse. Cannot be traded.
41. Milotic, the player can choose a Pokemon. He/She will be told who has that Pokemon. One-time use.
42. Kecleon, the player holding Kecleon is seered red if a wolf has voted for him/her in the lynchings or wolfings. Will happen automaticly.
43. Chimecho, the player can revive a player for the next Day Phase. However, when that player gets even one lynching or wolfing vote, he/she will die immediately. The revived person can't use any of his/her Pokemon. One-time use.
44. Salamence, the player can choose a Pokemon. He/She will be told who has that Pokemon. One-time use.
45. Metagross, the player can choose a Pokemon. He/She will be told who has that Pokemon. One-time use.
STARTER, GRASS 46. Turtwig, if the player chooses the player with the Piplup, the player will find out all of that player's Pokemon. One-time use.
STARTER, FIRE 47. Chimchar,  if the player chooses the player with the Turtwig, the player will find out all of that player's Pokemon. One-time use.
STARTER, WATER 48. Piplup,  if the player chooses the player with the Chimchar, the player will find out all of that player's Pokemon. One-time use.

SET 5:
49. Jirachi, the player's lynching and wolfing vote is always transferred 2 phases forward.
EX: Player votes for Player B in Day 1. The vote will count in the Day 2. Meaning the vote in Day 1=0.
50. Bidoof, the player can use Bidoof to make one extra use for one of his/her chosen Pokemon. Cannot be used on a fainted Pokemon. Two-time use.
51. Vespiquen, can vote in starter powers. Two-time use.
52. Drifiblim, when the Player holding Drifiblim dies, he/she must choose one player(if he/she doesn't, the player will be chosen randomly). The chosen player's starter power vote counts as 0.
53. Skuntank, when the Player holding Skuntank dies, he/she must choose one player(if he/she doesn't, the player will be chosen randomly). The chosen player's starter power vote counts as 0.
54. Bronzong, the player who's holding Bronzong, can get seering results from the last person who used their Pokemon. Two-time use. (EX: Player A uses a Bronzong. Player B uses a Pokemon 11.30 PM. Player C uses a Pokemon 11.57. The phase ends. Player A will get seering results from Player C.)
55. Lucario, can seer only for red players during Night. Two-time use.
56. Froslass, the player can choose one other player. He/she can't use any Pokemon for the next phase. One-time use.
STARTER, GRASS 57. Snivy, if the player chooses the player with the Oshawott, the player will find out all of that player's Pokemon. One-time use.
STARTER, FIRE 58. Tepig,  if the player chooses the player with the Snivy, the player will find out all of that player's Pokemon. One-time use.
STARTER, WATER 59. Oshawott,  if the player chooses the player with the Tepig, the player will find out all of that player's Pokemon. One-time use.
60. Audino, the player can choose a Pokemon. If it's dead, it can be revived(unless it's owner is dead). One-time use.

SET 6:
61. Darmanitan, the player can guard during Night. One-time use.
62. Scrafty, the player can choose a player during Day. If the chosen player dies, the player holding Scrafty will be told all of the fainted Pokemon of the chosen player. NOTICE: Pokemon do not faint when a player dies. Two-time use.
63. Sigilyph, the player will choose one player in Night 1. The player will get seering results from that person every Night.
64. Zoroark, the player can choose if the host would send him a PM with all the fainted Pokemon so far. The player can choose one fainted Pokemon and Zoroark will copycat it's power. One-time use.
65. Gothielle, the player can psychic(=will be told how many wolves are left). One-time use.
66. Ducklett, can protect the player from Pokemon for one phase. One-time use.
67. Klang, the player holding Klang knows the color of the players holding Minun and Pluse. Cannot be traded.
68. Beeheeyem, the player holding Beeheeyem will be immediately told if there is a seering on a player(s) during the phase this effect is activated. The player can change the seering target(s) at someone else. One-time use.
69. Chandelure, the player may vote for wolfings. If used by a wolf, the wolf has 2 wolfing votes. One-time use.
70. Golurk, can protect the player from Pokemon for one phase. One-time use.
71. Braviary, if the player who's holding Braviary founds out who has the Mandibuzz, he/she will find out that player's color. One-time use.
72. Mandibuzz, if the player who's holding Mandibuzz founds out who has the Braviary, he/she will find out that player's color. One-time use.

1. Youngster BlackDragonSlayer
2. Artist K-NiGhT
3. Beauty Bubbles7689
4. Aroma Lady/Guy blueflower999
5. PI shadowkirby
6. Veteran Dude
7. The Fisherman Who Cried Wolf
8. Black Belt gzgregory
9. Cooltrainer Mashi
10. Ace Trainer spitllama
11. Gentleman davy
12. PokéManiac Jub3r7


PMs will be distributed shortly.  Send Waddle your PM with the pokemon you want and in which ball.  Phase ends when all players have their pokemon (a.k.a., time differences suck).

Ok!! I am here!! >:D

So... the Pokemon thing is still confusing... :S

This might be obvious, but does night 0 count as a night for starters to evolve? Im assuming not, right?

Ok... so...

What are the sets? Do you have to choose one Pokemon per set, or can you get multiple from the same sets?
Do you choose all your Pokemon at once, or do you "gradually" get them?

Guys I'm using my Master Ball on Magikarp okay

We should have people claim the Grass pokemon, I think. Reviving will turn out to be extremely useful when the revival abilities are unlocked, and we can control the revivals if people say which grass pokemon they have.

No k-night I used my Master Ball on Magikarp!!

Please, before I do anything, could you explain how the captures work? (answer my questions, please ???)

Starters do not evolve Night 0.

You can only catch one Pokemon from each set.

Capturing: You choose six Pokemon from different sets and the Balls you want to catch them. If you are the only player to throw a Ball at the specific Pokemon, you automatically get that Pokemon. If there are two Balls thrown at the same Pokemon, the player who threw the Ball with a higher priority, gets the Pokemon. The loser gets one of the leftover Pokemon from the same set, randomly chosen. If two same type of Balls have been thrown at the same Pokemon, the winner will be chosen randomly and (s)he gets that Pokemon. Once again, the loser will get a leftover Pokemon from the same set, chosen randomly.

Can you explain the water grass and firepokemon?

i call drowzee, murkrow, gardevoir, chimeco, bidoof, and darmanitan
That was only through one read through though, I may make a couple changes the second skim through later today!!!
also gtetfo mai majicarpit

Quote from: Mashi on November 27, 2012, 02:30:56 AMi call drowzee, murkrow, gardevoir, chimeco, bidoof, and darmanitan
That was only through one read through though, I may make a couple changes the second skim through later today!!!
also gtetfo mai majicarpit

I would suggest not talking about potential teams untill night 0 has ended since it gives the wolves information, and it's better to keep information from the wolves as long as possible.

The people with Grass/Fire/Water starters can vote for a person(/Pokemon notice Fire Night 1) that the starters will use their power at.
EX: It's Night 1. Player A has Bulbasaur, Player B has Chikorita, Player C has Treecko, Player D has Turtwig and Snivy.
Players A and B vote for Player C to be guarded. Players C and D(Player D has two grass starters, so his starter vote counts as 2) vote for Player A. 2-3 Player A is guarded Night 1.

Quote from: the_last_sheikah on November 26, 2012, 06:36:17 PMA player can only use one Pokemon/phase.

36. Slakoth, the person holding this Pokemon can only use one Pokemon at Night. But that player can use his/her Pokemon twice every Night(making any "one-time uses" into "two-time uses and "two-time uses" into "four-time uses", but nothing will happen to "three-time uses"). Optional. The player must choose will (s)he use this option in Night 1.

If we can only use one pokemon per phase anyway, doesn't that mean that Slakoth has no drawback?

So you are told if you are a fire pokemon, water pokemon or grass pokemon?

If you choose to activate Slakoth's effect Night 1, that will mean you cannot use any Pokemon during Day Phases.
Slakoth doesn't count as an use of Pokemon, meaning even if you activate Slakoth's effect Night 1, you can still use a Pokemon that phase, but Slakoth's effect doesn't work on the Pokemon you use Night 1.

You can vote for starter powers if you have captured a starter Pokemon. Ex: If you catch Bulbasaur, you may vote for Grass starter powers.

Can anyone pick a fire, water or grass pokemon?

Yes.

Whats a KitB?

Quote from: The Rules9. In the event of a tie vote, a Knife in Box (KiB)[KitB] situation occurs. A KitB situation is defined by one of the two tied players randomly getting wolfed or lynched, as determined by random.org or other means.

My master ball's on Cyndaquil...

i sent my master ball on dunsparce

 Fire, grass and water.We should all go for 1 special pokemon, noone go for 2 special ones.

By special, I mean fire, water and grass pokemon

You'll never even guess what I used my Master Ball on... and I'm not going to even let slip anything.

I hope I get everything I wanted..

I'm still missing three lists, people!!! The game won't begin until I have all 12 lists!

Quote from: Waddle Bro on November 27, 2012, 07:36:46 PMI'm still missing three lists, people!!! The game won't begin until I have all 12 lists!

Hmmm... I wonder if all three people are...
Hm... well, maybe not. :P

I sent mine in!

Quote from: shadowkirby on November 27, 2012, 08:20:03 PMI sent mine in!

As did I. But, the way you said it, it made it seem as if you were "answering" my question. :P

You never asked a question. You just said I wonder if...
But no, I sent mine in as soon as I got my role PM.

Are starter pokémon also considered as 'one pokémon/day'?

Starter Pokemon is considered as "one pokemon/day" only if you decide to use its effect to name the player who has the Pokemon its description says. Starter powers do not count as an use of Pokemon.

The difference between a seer only for red players and a normal seer is that if you can seer only for red players, if the result is green or anything else the seering will fail.

I know it's wolfy to have a Smeargle but I want to paint myself a random color, such as pink or orange or something.

But I'll let you seer me before I do????

Quote from: Jub3r7 on November 28, 2012, 08:37:27 AMI know it's wolfy to have a Smeargle but I want to paint myself a random color, such as pink or orange or something.

But I'll let you seer me before I do????

If you wanted Smeargle to paint yourself, it isn't a good idea to announce it either way.

So basically you just want smeagle to mess around?

Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on November 28, 2012, 11:50:18 AMSo basically you just want smeagle to mess around?

If he got Smeargle, which is probably likely, unless someone else tried to catch it, then he'll be a prime target for the wolves, if he isn't one. :P

If wolves really wanted Smeargle that badly, they'll get it. I used either a regular pokeball or a great ball, I don't remember.

Quote from: Jub3r7 on November 28, 2012, 02:43:14 PMIf wolves really wanted Smeargle that badly, they'll get it. I used either a regular pokeball or a great ball, I don't remember.

I think that the wolves might go for Smeargle, the starters, and, quite possibly, Chandelure.

ポースト

Quote from: Dude on November 28, 2012, 03:11:18 PMポースト

In English: "Post" ??

Epic post

Quote from: SocialFox on November 28, 2012, 01:25:34 PMIf a person is lynched because he/she was revived by Chimecho and got a vote does that count as the lynching/wolfing or does that person die along the lynching/wolfing victim?

No, a person will be lynched/wolfed that same Phase.

Can you please make a dealine or some consequence for those who havent sent in their lists yet? Its really not that hard to pick 6 different Pokemon, and you certainly dont need three days to do it

I now have all the lists, I'm currently trying to find out who catches who.

EDIT: I have to wait, because some people tried to catch Pokemon from the same set. Waiting for them to send me fixed lists.

Quote from: Waddle Bro on November 28, 2012, 07:50:02 PMEDIT: I have to wait, because some people tried to catch Pokemon from the same set. Waiting for them to send me fixed lists.

Sorry, I can't read apparently. :(

ok sent now. :3

Still waiting for the another person.

edit: lol one more xD

OK, here's the skinny: If you don't send in your team to Waddle by 9 PM EST, you will be given a randomly generated team of the remaining pokemon, and your name will be posted on the first phase update.  If you have a problem with this, then either send in your team, or I say good day to you Sir/Madam.

Quote from: the_last_sheikah on November 29, 2012, 12:11:21 PMOK, here's the skinny: If you don't send in your team to Waddle by 9 PM EST, you will be given a randomly generated team of the remaining pokemon, and your name will be posted on the first phase update.  If you have a problem with this, then either send in your team, or I say good day to you Sir/Madam.

I sent in my team... so, unless there's a mistake... I hope it's not me. :P

This is like a preparation night is it not? Like let's say it's the huner games, we'd all be in the room where the tubes start? Waiting and getting prepared.. :O

Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on November 29, 2012, 12:42:32 PMThis is like a preparation night is it not? Like let's say it's the huner games, we'd all be in the room where the tubes start? Waiting and getting prepared.. :O

I see an axe in the cornucopia. And I'm a lot better with an axe than a sword. :P

Has there been a Hunger Games TWG yet?

Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on November 29, 2012, 01:13:06 PMI see an axe in the cornucopia. And I'm a lot better with an axe than a sword. :P

Has there been a Hunger Games TWG yet?

No there hasn't.

There hasn't?! On cfm I've tried to get one going a few times. I have a Hunger Games game that I'm getting ready but it's not werewolf. Could host it here in the forum games section if you guys would like but I doubt I'd get enough people. It'd be a map game if you know what they are, though I infented it but apparantly map games exist. :(

Sent. Waddle rejected my first one. D:

You can only have one pokemon from each set, that's probably why!

Yeah, know I know that.  ::)

*NOW I know that. Dangit.

Ok, we will no longer be accepting teams.  Waddle, please determine who has what pokemon and send me the list when you are done so we may, how you say, get this par-tay started.

Night 1 will start in 12 hours max. from this point. I have insane amount of work to do this evening.

Less than 6 hours remaining.

The Pokemon are now ready. Waiting for Sheikah to start the game.

REMINDER: Send all PMs and chat logs to Sheikah and me! Also, ALL Pokemon-related questions should be directed to me.

Quote from: Waddle Bro on November 30, 2012, 02:35:31 PMThe Pokemon are now ready. Waiting for Sheikah to start the game.

REMINDER: Send all PMs and chat logs to Sheikah and me! Also, ALL Pokemon-related questions should be directed to me.

Hmm... well... do we know which Pokemon we've caught?

You will be told what Pokemon you have caught right after Night 1 begins.

Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on November 30, 2012, 03:02:52 PMHmm... well... do we know which Pokemon we've caught?

Well I know, and Waddle knows...I suppose you'll just have to guess! MWAHAHAHA!
JK, I'll start sending out team PMs soon, then I'll get this started for realz.

Quote from: Waddle Bro on November 30, 2012, 03:06:31 PMYou will be told what Pokemon you have caught right after Night 1 begins.

NINJA'DAMN! Fine, I can't update right now, but expect me in about an hour.

Quote from: the_last_sheikah on November 30, 2012, 03:08:16 PMWell I know, and Waddle knows...I suppose you'll just have to guess! MWAHAHAHA!
JK, I'll start sending out team PMs soon, then I'll get this started for realz.NINJA'DAMN! Fine, I can't update right now, but expect me in about an hour.

Ohh can't wait

TWG XLIV: The Pokemon League
*Hosted by the_last_sheikah and Waddle Bro*

The game's universal effect: Items and Cardflip
Each player will be given 6 Balls, one for each set;
1 Master Ball
1 Ultra Ball
2 Great Balls
2 Poke Balls
Pokemon have special powers told in the description. EX: Smeragle, can paint a person once.
Each player will get a total of 6 Pokemon. You can catch your Pokemon Night 0, after the role PMs have been distributed. There will be no wolfing Night 0. In order to get the 6 Pokemon and a PM to the host with 6 Pokemon and the Balls you want to catch them. HOWEVER, if another player throws a Ball that has a better catch rate(Poke<Great<Ultra<Master) that player will get that Pokemon. Meaning the player's Ball will be wasted. If there are two same type of Balls on a Pokemon, the player who gets the Pokemon is chosen randomly. The loser wastes his/her Ball. All the Pokemon that get nobody chose, will randomly be given to people with 5 Pokemon or less so that every player has a total of 6 Pokemon. Players can trade their Pokemon with other players. In order to trade, both players have to approach the host by PM and tell what Pokemon they get, give and with who.

After all 12 players have signed in, the games begins and the roles and Pokemon will be given. You can use your Pokemon as items as many times as the Pokemon description tells. EX: "Smeragle, can paint a player once" After a Pokemon is no longer usable, it will faint.
A player can only use one Pokemon/phase.
A player can trade only one Pokemon in the entire game. You cannot trade fainted Pokemon.
Pokemon do not faint when a player dies.
Wolfings and starter powers happen by voting. EX: Players A, B and D are wolves. Player A and B vote for Player C. Player D votes for Player E. Player C=66% of the votes=Player C gets wolfed.

The Rivals(Wolves):

1. Rival
2. Rival
3. Rival

The wolves don't know eachother.

The Trainers(Humans):

4. Trainer
5. Trainer
6. Trainer
7. Trainer
8. Trainer
9. Trainer
10. Trainer
11. Trainer (will be told that (s)he's green)
12. Trainer (will be told that (s)he's green)

Starter Powers:
Grass:  Guardian (Night 1), Public Pokemon reveal(Night 2), Revive one Player (Night 3 until the end of the game)
Fire:  Stop the use of one Pokemon (Night 1), Give one player a Brutal power for the rest of the game (Night 2), Vigi (Night 3 until the end of the game)
Water:  Paint (Night 1), Psychic (Night 2, doesn't need a voting), Public Seering (Night 3 until the end of the game)

Starter Pokemon evolve every night.

1. Youngster BlackDragonSlayer
2. Artist K-NiGhT
3. Beauty Bubbles7689
4. Aroma Lady/Guy blueflower999
5. PI shadowkirby
6. Veteran Dude
7. The Fisherman Who Cried Wolf
8. Black Belt gzgregory
9. Cooltrainer Mashi
10. Ace Trainer spitllama
11. Gentleman davy
12. PokéManiac Jub3r7

Blueflower 999 has a Loudred!

It is now Night 1.  Night 1 ends Saturday, December 1 at 10 PM EST (use this http://www.timeanddate.com/time/map/ (http://www.timeanddate.com/time/map/) to convert)
Full teams will be distributed shortly.

Pokemon who's effect happen automatically:
Nidorina, Electrode, Weezing, Slakoth(optional), Shedinja, Loudred, Pluse, Minun, Kecleon, Jirachi, Drifiblim, Skuntank, Sigilyph(needs the name), Klang.

Pokemon that may vote for starter powers:
Grass: Guardian (Night 1), Public Pokemon reveal(Night 2), Revive one Player (Night 3 until the end of the game)
Bulbasaur, Chikorita, Treecko, Turtwig, Snivy, Vespiquen*
Fire: Stop the use of one Pokemon (Night 1), Give one player a Brutal power for the rest of the game (Night 2), Vigi (Night 3 until the end of the game)
Charmander, Cyndaquil, Torchic, Chimchar, Tepig, Vespiquen*
Water: Paint (Night 1), Psychic (Night 2, doesn't need a voting), Public Seering (Night 3 until the end of the game)
Squirtle, Totodile, Mudkip, Piplup, Oshawott, Vespiquen*

*Vespiquen can vote for starter powers with its power

A detailed explanation about starter powers:
The starter powers work like wolfings(also in the Night). People vote for the person/Pokemon to be affected(dunno the exact word) by the starter power of its type. The people can vote only for the starting power, their Pokemon allows to. Ex: Player holding Squirtle can vote only for Water starter powers. If the player has two different kind of starters(Ex: Squirtle and Bulbasaur), the player can vote for both Water and Grass starter powers. The player can also use Vespiquen to vote for starter powers.
Night 1: Grass starter holders vote for the player they want to be guarded. Fire starter holders vote for the Pokemon that can't be used this Night. Water starter holders vote for the player they want to be painted with the color they want. Night 2: Grass starter holders vote for Pokemon they want to be revealed in the beginning of Day 2. Fire starter holders vote for the player they need to give a Brutal power. Water holders do not vote this phase. Instead they get psychic results in the beginning of Day 2 by PM. Night 3-? Grass starter holders vote for the player they want to get revived permanently. Fire starter holders vote for the player that they want to get vigi'd. Water starter holders vote for the player that will be cardflipped in the beginning of the next Day. KitB situations apply to starter power votings.

ALL PMs HAVE BEEN SENT

Quote from: Waddle Bro on November 30, 2012, 04:11:46 PMPokemon who's effect happen automatically:
Nidorina, Electrode, Weezing, Slakoth(optional), Shedinja, Loudred, Pluse, Minun, Kecleon, Jirachi, Drifiblim, Skuntank, Sigilyph, Klang.

Thank you, I will send the necessary PMs for these now.

IMPORTANT

I'll take care of all Pokemon powers/starter votings, so be aware to send me all Pokemon related PMs.

Oh...

Hmm... well...

I think the wolves got Chandelure... Apparantly, somebody was desperate enough to use a Master Ball on it.

Who has Milotic, Salamence or Metagross? I'd like to look into something.

If you're not a wolf... who got Chandelure, and why? If, of course, we can reveal that information.
Can we reveal such information??

Well, I used a master ball on Chandelure to hopefully be able to screw up the wolves plan, but sadly I didn't get it. That proves that someone else used a master ball and got it.

Quote from: blueflower999 on November 30, 2012, 07:37:27 PMWell, I used a master ball on Chandelure to hopefully be able to screw up the wolves plan, but sadly I didn't get it. That proves that someone else used a master ball and got it.

I used a Master Ball on Chandelure as well. And. Didn't. Get. It. It did it to possibly gain influence over the wolfings later on.
So, there are at least three people who threw Master Balls at Chandelure, unless there is some mix-up, which I highly doubt.

BS, who else used their master ball on Lucario?

Noo, got everything I wanted but 2. Message me if you want to trade, I obviously won't let anyone know you have these. These pokemon arn't bad anyway. Just one's mainly for wolves. Darn you wolves not wanting the wolf pokemon!


52. Drifiblim


63. Sigilyph

Quote from: Jub3r7 on November 30, 2012, 09:47:16 PMBS, who else used their master ball on Lucario?

Wait what... did you just call me BS... o___o

jub you racist

Quote from: gzgregory on November 30, 2012, 06:28:39 PMWho has Milotic, Salamence or Metagross? I'd like to look into something.

No takers, you guys? D:

Quote from: Jub3r7 on November 30, 2012, 09:47:16 PMBS, who else used their master ball on Lucario?

i told you i used it on magikarp! geez

Quote from: gzgregory on December 01, 2012, 01:39:35 PMNo takers, you guys? D:

I got Pokemon that are... let's just say... better left... unused... :P As in, too risky to use, with not good enough effects to justify it... but they can be wildcards...
All except two.

No, I did not call you BS. I was calling BS on the fact that someone else also used a Master Ball on Lucario other than me and I didn't get it.

Quote from: Jub3r7 on December 01, 2012, 02:08:47 PMNo, I did not call you BS. I was calling BS on the fact that someone else also used a Master Ball on Lucario other than me and I didn't get it.

Omg I just read that XD That would've been horrible

Quote from: Jub3r7 on December 01, 2012, 02:08:47 PMNo, I did not call you BS. I was calling BS on the fact that someone else also used a Master Ball on Lucario other than me and I didn't get it.

It seems as if the wolves used their Master Balls on the "best" Pokemon, for the purposes of using them, and... preventing us from getting them.

If the person who has Chandelure doesn't come forth (unless we can't reveal such information?), then we can safely assume that that person is a wolf; which could mean that we could put Azumarill, Salamence, Metagross, and Milotic to good use, unless the wolves have THEM.

Like I've mentioned already, I have uses for those pokemon!
And nowhere is it mentioned that you cannot say what pokemon you have...?

BDS, Im 99% positive that you can reveal what Pokemon you have. It wouldnt be such a smart idea, but you could. I really doubt whoever has Chandelure would claim during a night phase, since they would then become a target. I also doubt that three people actually all used their masterballs on the same Pokemon, but thats just me

You are allowed to discuss about your Pokemon with other people.

I got Dialga you all lose

*posting for notifications 6 pages in*

Quote from: Bubbles7689 on December 01, 2012, 02:33:15 PMBDS, Im 99% positive that you can reveal what Pokemon you have. It wouldnt be such a smart idea, but you could. I really doubt whoever has Chandelure would claim during a night phase, since they would then become a target. I also doubt that three people actually all used their masterballs on the same Pokemon, but thats just me

I wouldn't be surprised, personally. Although I am surprised that it turned out to be CHANDELURE, Slakoth seems like a more likely candidate.

REMINDER: If you want to use your Pokemon, send a PM to me. Same thing applies to wolfings and starter powers.

Quote from: Bubbles7689 on December 01, 2012, 02:33:15 PMBDS, Im 99% positive that you can reveal what Pokemon you have. It wouldnt be such a smart idea, but you could. I really doubt whoever has Chandelure would claim during a night phase, since they would then become a target. I also doubt that three people actually all used their masterballs on the same Pokemon, but thats just me

Blueflower and I used our Master Balls on Chandelure, and neither of us have it, so, apparantly, there was AT LEAST one other person.

The person who has Chandelure can make the wolves' wolfing(s) a lot worse, especially if there is only one wolf left. Slakoth and Chandelure combined would be devastating...

Chandelure's effect grants you one extra vote in wolfings. It has no effect on the amount of people wolfed.

Quote from: Waddle Bro on December 01, 2012, 05:23:15 PMChandelure's effect grants you one extra vote in wolfings. It has no effect on the amount of people wolfed.

I meant, worse for the wolves...

Noone wants my pokemon? Seriously? :( I got a seering. I'd switch it for majikarp honestly, but would rather something else..

Can you trade anonymously? Like can someone say, 'I would like to trade A with B for player C' and then someone will receive a message saying, 'someone would like to traid A with B, accept?' ?? :o

Cause wolfs will want my pokemon, I tell ya. Don't know why they didn't try get it :o

Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on December 01, 2012, 05:18:40 PMBlueflower and I used our Master Balls on Chandelure, and neither of us have it, so, apparantly, there was AT LEAST one other person.

The person who has Chandelure can make the wolves' wolfing(s) a lot worse, especially if there is only one wolf left. Slakoth and Chandelure combined would be devastating...

Not really. I dont see why people would have used their masterball on Chandelure. It gives you a vote in a wolfing only once, then faints after that. Plus theres no guarantee that your vote will go through since its not the first/last pm sent in, its a ratio of who has the most votes (right?)

And boy are Sigilyph and Drifblim the ones you're trading or looking to trade for?

Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on December 01, 2012, 05:39:10 PMNoone wants my pokemon? Seriously? :( I got a seering. I'd switch it for majikarp honestly, but would rather something else..

Ah... so you were the one who prevented me from getting THOSE seerings! :P

Quote from: Bubbles7689 on December 01, 2012, 05:48:27 PMNot really. I dont see why people would have used their masterball on Chandelure. It gives you a vote in a wolfing only once, then faints after that. Plus theres no guarantee that your vote will go through since its not the first/last pm sent in, its a ratio of who has the most votes (right?)

Because it gives the wolves two votes... and, if there is only one wolf left, and a human has Chandelure, especially if that wolf is inactve, you can "sway" the wolfing.

Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on December 01, 2012, 05:46:20 PMCan you trade anonymously? Like can someone say, 'I would like to trade A with B for player C' and then someone will receive a message saying, 'someone would like to traid A with B, accept?' ?? :o

No.

Quote from: Bubbles7689 on December 01, 2012, 05:48:27 PMits a ratio of who has the most votes (right?)

Yes. In a tie, it's a KitB situation.

REMINDER: If you want to use Sigilyph(if you don't use Sigilyph this phase, it's useless for the rest of the game) and Slakoth, you have to PM me while there's still time. Same thing for starter powers.

Night 1 ends in 40 minutes.

You can vote for starter powers as once/every Night. The only way your starter will faint, is that you decide to activate it's effect:

Quoteif the player chooses the player with the ______, the player will find out all of that player's Pokemon. One-time use.

Ignore this post.

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Because Sheikah isn't online now, I guess I have to do this.

TWG XLIV: The Pokemon League
*Hosted by the_last_sheikah and Waddle Bro*

The Rivals(Wolves):

1. Rival
2. Rival
3. Rival

The wolves don't know eachother.

The Trainers(Humans):

4. Trainer
5. Trainer
6. Trainer
7. Trainer
8. Trainer
9. Trainer
10. Trainer
11. Trainer (will be told that (s)he's green)
12. Trainer (will be told that (s)he's green)

Starter Powers:
Grass:  Guardian (Night 1), Public Pokemon reveal(Night 2), Revive one Player (Night 3 until the end of the game)
Fire:  Stop the use of one Pokemon (Night 1), Give one player a Brutal power for the rest of the game (Night 2), Vigi (Night 3 until the end of the game)
Water:  Paint (Night 1), Psychic (Night 2, doesn't need a voting), Public Seering (Night 3 until the end of the game)

Starter Pokemon evolve every night.



Aroma Guy blueflower999 accidentally breathed some Stun Spore. Blueflower999 was wolfed!

1. Youngster BlackDragonSlayer
2. Artist K-NiGhT
3. Beauty Bubbles7689
4. Aroma Guy blueflower999
5. PI shadowkirby
6. Veteran Dude
7. The Fisherman Who Cried Wolf
8. Black Belt gzgregory
9. Cooltrainer Mashi
10. Ace Trainer spitllama
11. Gentleman davy
12. PokéManiac Jub3r7

It is now Day 1. Day 1 ends Monday, December 3rd at 10 PM EST (use this http://www.timeanddate.com/time/map/ (http://www.timeanddate.com/time/map/) to convert)

Quote from: Waddle Bro on December 01, 2012, 07:07:44 PM
Aroma Guy blueflower999 accidentally breathed some Stun Spore. Blueflower999 was wolfed!

It is now Day 1. Day 1 ends Monday, December 3rd at 10 PM EST (use this http://www.timeanddate.com/time/map/ (http://www.timeanddate.com/time/map/) to convert)

:'(

I doubt he was a wolf.

Uh... gee, great. I just love being wolfed first. Well, I guess that is kinda a good thing because I stink at complex games. I would have been more of a load for the human team to bear than an asset. Good luck to all of you.

Quote from: blueflower999 on December 01, 2012, 07:43:29 PMUh... gee, great. I just love being wolfed first. Well, I guess that is kinda a good thing because I stink at complex games. I would have been more of a load for the human team to bear than an asset. Good luck to all of you.

You can be a good logician (proper word?) at times... but now we have to figure out: Why you first?

Whoever has Smeargle should claim.
If he does, we can make sure no paintings occur through pokemon that track pokemon actions.
If he doesn't, he's probably a wolf and we can find him.

HOST INTERVENTION
Waddle, there are a size able amount of PMs sent to me that you need to take into account for the phase.  I'm sorry I didn't send them earlier, I'll explain in another thread.  DAY 1 WILL NOT OFFICIALLY START UNTIL THESE PMs ARE STRAIGHTENED OUT.

-love, the_last_sheikah

PS. Waddle, it's my job to update.  If I'm not exactly on time, don't freak out and do it yourself, I got this.

Quote from: gzgregory on December 01, 2012, 08:28:31 PMWhoever has Smeargle should claim.
If he does, we can make sure no paintings occur through pokemon that track pokemon actions.
If he doesn't, he's probably a wolf and we can find him.

The wolves don't know each other?

I think, in this case, the person who has Smeargle, if they're not a wolf, could use it to trick the other wolves??

Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on December 01, 2012, 07:48:49 PMYou can be a good logician (proper word?) at times... but now we have to figure out: Why you first?

I feel blue always gets wolfed night 1 :P

Quote from: the_last_sheikah on December 01, 2012, 08:32:34 PMHOST INTERVENTION
Waddle, there are a size able amount of PMs sent to me that you need to take into account for the phase.  I'm sorry I didn't send them earlier, I'll explain in another thread.  DAY 1 WILL NOT OFFICIALLY START UNTIL THESE PMs ARE STRAIGHTENED OUT.

-love, the_last_sheikah

PS. Waddle, it's my job to update.  If I'm not exactly on time, don't freak out and do it yourself, I got this.

I hope nothing huge gets messeed up :-\

Quote from: gzgregory on December 01, 2012, 08:28:31 PMWhoever has Smeargle should claim.
If he does, we can make sure no paintings occur through pokemon that track pokemon actions.
If he doesn't, he's probably a wolf and we can find him.

I actually got Smeargle? Except typoed and spelled "Smeragle."
I won't paint anybody tonight.

^^ Did you paint anyone last night? Or are you considering right now to still be Night 1 since the phase "technically" hasn't ended yet according to Sheikah?

I'm still considering it night 1. I have not used any of my pokemon at all yet!

Quote from: the_last_sheikah on December 01, 2012, 08:32:34 PMHOST INTERVENTION
Waddle, there are a size able amount of PMs sent to me that you need to take into account for the phase.  I'm sorry I didn't send them earlier, I'll explain in another thread.  DAY 1 WILL NOT OFFICIALLY START UNTIL THESE PMs ARE STRAIGHTENED OUT.

-love, the_last_sheikah

PS. Waddle, it's my job to update.  If I'm not exactly on time, don't freak out and do it yourself, I got this.

People, when sending PMs, send them to both Sheikah and me. I have now taken care of them, it's your move Sheikah.
Sorry for ending the phase. It was 5 AM here(I know, I put a lot of effort into hosting), so I didn't want that the phase update would be late possibly for 6 hours. I had no idea that Sheikah had PMs that I didn't get.

Also, I forgot the cardflip part from the update, so basically nothing extremely bad happened.

Oh no! I'm in the middle of a trade! :o

Anyone else want to trade? I'm giving away 2 pokemon!

52. Drifiblim
63. Sigilyph

They arn't rubbish, they just don't fit me

TWG XLIV: The Pokemon League
*Hosted by the_last_sheikah and Waddle Bro*

The game's universal effect: Items and Cardflip

The Rivals(Wolves):

1. Rival
2. Rival
3. Rival

The wolves don't know eachother.

The Trainers(Humans):

4. Trainer
5. Trainer
6. Trainer
7. Trainer
8. Trainer
9. Trainer
10. Trainer
11. Trainer (will be told that (s)he's green)
12. Trainer (will be told that (s)he's green)

1. Youngster BlackDragonSlayer
2. Artist K-NiGhT
3. Beauty Bubbles7689
4. Aroma Lady/Guy blueflower999
5. PI shadowkirby
6. Veteran Dude
7. The Fisherman Who Cried Wolf
8. Black Belt gzgregory
9. Cooltrainer Mashi
10. Ace Trainer spitllama
11. Gentleman davy
12. PokéManiac Jub3r7

Mashi was attacked. Mashi used protect.  The attack failed!  Both hosts hurt themselves in confusion.

It is now Day 1 (OFFICIALLY).  Day 1 ends Tuesday 10 PM EST.(use this http://www.timeanddate.com/time/map/ to convert)
Sorry, was just informed I had to say if a victim was guarded.

So...blueflower is still alive. Which means the wolves obviously didn't get the memo that the phase didn't actually end, or some other strange thing happened. In any case, it's day one and I have nothing to go on at this point, so safety on Mashi cuz he's totes wuff.

Quote from: K-NiGhT on December 02, 2012, 09:36:23 AMSo...blueflower is still alive. Which means the wolves obviously didn't get the memo that the phase didn't actually end, or some other strange thing happened. In any case, it's day one and I have nothing to go on at this point, so safety on Mashi cuz he's totes wuff.

I'm guessing that the grass starter power was used to guard Mashi??

Just because Jub said he has Smeargle, doesn't mean he's not a wolf! We should keep an eye on him: remember, Smeargle is highly coveted by the wolves, and they probably would have used Ultra or Master balls on him, and the fact that Jub most likely did so as well makes him a potential suspect. I think we should save one of the pokemon-owner-checking pokemon to watch this: Smeargle could end up being traded to somebody.

Thanks for claiming though!

Speaking of, we should be cautious about safeties due to the presence of Weezing. (well not for this phase since no one's been lynched yet but I thought it was worth mentioning).

Oh... so... I'm not dead! OK then. Good for me.

Well, I guess I'm too late to make my trade. Actually kinda glad though hehe

Quote from: gzgregory on December 02, 2012, 10:43:35 AMThanks for claiming though!

I'll check my sent pm, I know I didn't use my master ball or ultra ball on Smeargle to get him.

I used a regular pokeball. Apparently wolves didn't want it that much?

Also, boy who cried wolf pm'd me saying that I've been seered red and asked if I wanted to defend myself before he tells the thread.
Well, I hope it makes sense that if I were red, I probably would have painted myself not red last night?

*If I knew I was red as a wolf, I probably would have painted myself not red last night.

Quote from: Jub3r7 on December 02, 2012, 12:09:20 PMI used a regular pokeball. Apparently wolves didn't want it that much?

Really? That surprises me, I thought Smeargle would be highly coveted. I think this makes you look human though.

Ok, so I am the Minum holder.

A player that claims to hold Klang has told me that I was green (although that could have been a mass PM).

If what he says is true, than the plusle holder must have seen that I am green too.
Now it seems that I have become red (so unless jub's lying, a water starter has been used on my) because TBWCW has told me that I have been seer'd red (probably using Sigilyph) which should mean that, unless painting is permanent, I will be seer'd green next night phase (Sigilyph seers every night phase).

Now, aside from Minum, I also have Braviary. Which means that if both the Mandibuzz and the Plusle holders claim to me, I can set up a 4 player alliance, after having seer'd the Mandibuzz owner. The Mandibuzz owner should not seer me untill next night phase because by than, my color should have returned to green.

Obviously, for all you know there is a chance that I, or any of the other players seer'd is the Master Wolf, but even than, humans will still have an alliance of 4 players, from which at least 3 (assuming the Mandibuzz owner will be seer'd green) are humans, and it's not as if the Master Wolf can gain that much information in a game like this (not knowing his partners and with an enormously number of items).

Quote from: Jub3r7 on December 02, 2012, 12:09:20 PMAlso, boy who cried wolf pm'd me saying that I've been seered red and asked if I wanted to defend myself before he tells the thread.
Well, I hope it makes sense that if I were red, I probably would have painted myself not red last night?

Uhhhh... I got the same message. I think this is a ploy, but I'd like to consider the alternatives:

If it's true, I am a miller, which is a 50/50 chance assuming I'm actually red. So assuming TBWCW is telling the truth, what (if any) pokemon can seer two people at once?? Slakoth + a seer?

Of course, TBWCW could also be a wolf trying to find his partners?

Okay nvm looks like everyone got it

Quote from: spitllama on December 02, 2012, 12:24:33 PMOkay nvm looks like everyone got it

I did not. He instead sent me a personal PM asking to trade.

Ninja'd.

So, the above posts makes me belive that I'm not actually painted. This actually seems like a wolfish move of TBWCW trying to find his partners, as they will likely respond to his message first. Futhermore, as TBWCW said he used his Master Ball on Cyndaquil (a pokémon which is very usefull for the wolves) without further explanation (like what Jub did) I really think he's a wolf.

The Boy Who Cried Wolf

Also, if you can tell me if I was really red, you should definately tell me, because it would change my strategy involving the Mandibuzz owner.

I got the same pm from The Boy Who Cried Wolf. This can't just be a coincidence. What does everyone else think?

Quote from: Jub3r7 on December 02, 2012, 12:09:20 PMAlso, boy who cried wolf pm'd me saying that I've been seered red and asked if I wanted to defend myself before he tells the thread.
Well, I hope it makes sense that if I were red, I probably would have painted myself not red last night?

Yeah, I got the same thing. Not a very good trick to try, Boy.
But, seriously, there are three options:
1: Boy is trying to trick us.
2: I was painted.
3: I AM THE MILLER AGAIN!!

I'd like to make several assertions here.
1. Jub3r7 is probably human.
If Jub were a wolf, I highly doubt he would have said that he used a simple Pokeball on Smeargle. I think he would have simply said something along the lines of using the Master Ball so that the wolves wouldn't get it or something like that. I don't think he's lying about Smeargle, which indicates that he's probably human.
2. Spitllama is very likely human.
I have Klang. Spit used Ditto to mimic Klang (I know for a fact that this is true), and Waddle Bro accidentally sent him not just the colours, but also the IDENTITIES of the Plusle and Minun holders. He messaged me telling me that he thought that I was human, then sent me those identities before Davy's post revealing that he held Minun, which leads me to believe that he was genuinely looking to share information with me.
3. By extension I can confirm Davy's claim.
4. I got Boy's PM. There's no way all of us are red if Jub's telling the truth (see above for why I think he is), Boy was clearly just trying to psyche all of us out, and this is exactly the sort of thing he would do.

Now if Davy has Braviary, that's fantastic, because we now could have four quasi-confirmed humans (Spit, Davy, Plusle holder, probably the Mandibuzz holder).

Also, before I vote for Boy:
Do you want a chance to defend yourself? :P Explain your actions, and why you sent out mass-PMs like that? If you were trying to trick people into saying they were wolves, wouldn't you have only targeted like... one or two people?

Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on December 02, 2012, 12:48:08 PMAlso, before I vote for Boy:
Do you want a chance to defend yourself? :P Explain your actions, and why you sent out mass-PMs like that? If you were trying to trick people into saying they were wolves, wouldn't you have only targeted like... one or two people?

Like, did he not think that this would get out to the thread before he posted anything?

I'm going to place a vote on The Boy Who Cried Wolf.

Quote from: gzgregory on December 02, 2012, 12:45:19 PM2. Spitllama is very likely human.
I have Klang. Spit used Ditto to mimic Klang (I know for a fact that this is true), and Waddle Bro accidentally sent him not just the colours, but also the IDENTITIES of the Plusle and Minun holders.

I already have discussed about this with Sheikah and FSM. According to FSM, he didn't know you guys wouldn't get the identities because the Finnish translation in Pluse's/Minun's/Klang's description means that the identities should be involved in their effects. (Finnish is a very complex language) In English, that description only means the colours. The Finnish translation can mean a different thing than the English one.

Quote from: Waddle Bro on December 02, 2012, 12:56:07 PMI already have discussed about this with Sheikah and FSM. According to FSM, he didn't know you guys wouldn't get the identities because the Finnish translation in Pluse's/Minun's/Klang's description means that the identities should be involved in their effects. (Finnish is a very complex language) In English, that description only means the colours. The Finnish translation can mean a different thing than the English one.

Alright, thanks for the clarification.

Quote from: gzgregory on December 02, 2012, 12:45:19 PMgzgregory's mass of text

Well we're certainly not wasting any time in helping the wolves find their partners are we?

Oh and this topic needs to be stickied

Quote from: Jub3r7 on December 02, 2012, 12:09:20 PMI used a regular pokeball. Apparently wolves didn't want it that much?

Also, boy who cried wolf pm'd me saying that I've been seered red and asked if I wanted to defend myself before he tells the thread.
Well, I hope it makes sense that if I were red, I probably would have painted myself not red last night?

I got the same thing. Considering Im positive that jub was NOT red last night, I think its safe to vote The Boy Who Cried Wolf

Safety on spit for now because I'm going to sleep and I don't want to cause an insta while sleeping.

What are your reasons for voting me apart from the fact I sent you all a message? None.

What does sending a message show? I was trying to find wolf partners or I was trying to help town by outing the wolves.

Think now. You have evidence, but what does it prove?

...that you were acting weird.

Boy Who Cried Wolf

Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on December 02, 2012, 02:05:31 PMWhat are your reasons for voting me apart from the fact I sent you all a message? None.

What does sending a message show? I was trying to find wolf partners or I was trying to help town by outing the wolves.

Think now. You have evidence, but what does it prove?

Because, if you were trying to help the humans, you wouldn't have sent it to (nearly) everybody. You would have targeted a few suspicious people (like two, so that your "ruse" isn't quickly unconvered by all the people you sent messages to).
It seems as if you were trying to get our responses, so you could judge if we were wolves or not, but I doubt you were there to help the humans.

The Boy Who Cried Wolf
Unless you can convince us all otherwise...

Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on December 02, 2012, 02:05:31 PMWhat are your reasons for voting me apart from the fact I sent you all a message? None.

What does sending a message show? I was trying to find wolf partners or I was trying to help town by outing the wolves.

Think now. You have evidence, but what does it prove?

You were trying to find wolf partners? Im assuming you mean finding wolves, not wolf partners. Also how is
"Hi there Bubbles, it appears that last night I got a red result on you, before I say anything in the main thread would you like to defend yourself?"
saying you're a wolf and you want to create an alliance with me? You basically said "you're red, so Im gonna tell on you"

Quote from: Bubbles7689 on December 02, 2012, 02:14:52 PMYou were trying to find wolf partners? Im assuming you mean finding wolves, not wolf partners. Also how is
"Hi there Bubbles, it appears that last night I got a red result on you, before I say anything in the main thread would you like to defend yourself?"
saying you're a wolf and you want to create an alliance with me? You basically said "you're red, so Im gonna tell on you"

Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on December 02, 2012, 02:12:43 PMBecause, if you were trying to help the humans, you wouldn't have sent it to (nearly) everybody....

...It seems as if you were trying to get our responses, so you could judge if we were wolves or not, but I doubt you were there to help the humans....

Unless he made a foolish mistake, I doubt very many humans would try that... at least, not in the way he did.

No insta please. I need some time getting the alliance completed.

Anyway, how would falsly accusing someone of being red help the humans? I really dont see what you were trying to do. Everyone would have denied it, so if you were looking for reactions you should have tried something different

Quote from: Bubbles7689 on December 02, 2012, 02:19:49 PMAnyway, how would falsly accusing someone of being red help the humans? I really dont see what you were trying to do. Everyone would have denied it, so if you were looking for reactions you should have tried something different

Because he targeted (nearly) everybody; he didn't just accuse one or two people of being red. His goal(s) make some sense, but the way he did it makes almost none.
You don't know if everyone would have denied it; some people may have 'tested' Boy to find out whether he was a human or a wolf. Because so many people got the PM (and revealed it to the topic), there's very little chance of any response.

The Boy Who Cried Wolf

Can we stop with the votes now so I don't get an insta and can explain myself.

See I tried this in the game before and it didn't work, I was human then.

I was trying to trade a pokemon that would make peoples starter powers count for zero, wouldn't a wolf want that?

I should have sent them to a few suspicious people? That's what you do when you are a wolf as to not be brought suspicion upon and then crack down. I on the other hand though ah, to hell with it and sent it to almost everyone because as a human I can justify myself greatly.

You don't have anything you can use against me at the moment and in my opinion I think we should look into whoever started this lynch, it's based on something that didn't work out right. That is all.

I actually think if you guys would take time to look over my play and my actions you would see I infact look more human than wolf.


No more votes please, anyone finished me off I suggest you look into them.

Please unvote for the time being

Quote from: shadowkirby on December 02, 2012, 02:31:53 PMThe Boy Who Cried Wolf

This, no reasons just a vote.
 Doubt he has even read the thread.
He didn't even get sent a message.
Probably just insta'd me.

shadowkirby

Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on December 02, 2012, 02:32:21 PMI should have sent them to a few suspicious people? That's what you do when you are a wolf as to not be brought suspicion upon and then crack down. I on the other hand though ah, to hell with it and sent it to almost everyone because as a human I can justify myself greatly.

You don't have anything you can use against me at the moment and in my opinion I think we should look into whoever started this lynch, it's based on something that didn't work out right. That is all.

I actually think if you guys would take time to look over my play and my actions you would see I infact look more human than wolf.

1: Actually, if you would have done that, it would make you look more human; less suspicious... instead of sifting through the crowd...

2: And you don't have anything otherwise.

3: I have carefully inspected your actions, and they lean toward you being a wolf. Sorry if you're actually a human...

In addition, your reason for voting for Shadowkirby has even less reasoning behind it than us voting for you. Merely voting for someone, unless the circumstances behind it aren't exactly right (usually, though, you can tell :P), does not put suspicion on that person. Sometimes, you can detect the little "wolf idiosyncrasies."

^Pretty sure he did not. And I didn't get sent a message, and yet I voted for you.

TWG advice: Even if you're not a wolf, don't do weird crap to try to "help the human team". If you do weird crap, people are going to get suspicious, lynch you, and then you just hurt the human team instead of helping it. If your plan is so obscure and hard to defend in the thread, then don't do it!

My above post was directed at TBWCW, not BDS. Sorry, got ninja'd.

Right if you want to lynch me fair enough. Take my pokemon at least though.

Gz, was going to wait for later to see if I could trust you or not but hey ho, if your a wolf ah well. I have metagross, would you like to trade? I can't use him today because my slakoth is active so I can only use pokemon at night.

I'm in chat, ask me what you want.

http://client02.chat.mibbit.com/?server=irc.NFnet.org&channel=%23TWGNSM

Actually I did read the thread.

Quote from: shadowkirby on December 02, 2012, 03:20:57 PMActually I did read the thread.

that's tellin them, shadowkirby ;)

I don't understand why you guys are all beating on TBWCW. The technique he's just used has been done before.

I (surprisingly) agree with gzg. Jub has done this before... so has Mashi... and Verm. Before everyone freaked out I was actually figuring that it was a human plan to find wolves.

Really think you're all overreacting a little.

Graah i had something really well thought out to say, but then I realized that wolves don't know each other. Dang it.

Quote from: gzgregory on December 02, 2012, 04:10:38 PMI don't understand why you guys are all beating on TBWCW. The technique he's just used has been done before.

Then it's not a very clever technique. Because, if it fails, which it has a giant chance to do, especially in a case like this, it makes the one who tries it seem that much more like a wolf.

It definitely would have been wise for him to tell someone before he did it (ex/ Jub warned Mashi before he claimed wolf to the thread when he did it).

However, like davy said (with opposite logic ironically ::)), a wolf would be the first to reply to an accusation like that.

TBWCW, who DID reply to you?

Quote from: spitllama on December 02, 2012, 04:56:36 PMIt definitely would have been wise for him to tell someone before he did it (ex/ Jub warned Mashi before he claimed wolf to the thread when he did it).

However, like davy said (with opposite logic ironically ::)), a wolf would be the first to reply to an accusation like that.

TBWCW, who DID reply to you?

If I were a wolf, I wouldn't reply to it at all, unless I had a good cover up... such as the possibility of being a miller, or even turning the accusation on the PM sender, and saying that THEY are the ones who is the wolf, and trying to frame me.
But then again, isn't that quite similar to what you'd do if you were a human? :P

Boy pulled a Mashi trick on people, huh?

Safety on BDS.

Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on December 02, 2012, 05:12:09 PMBut then again, isn't that quite similar to what you'd do if you were a human? :P

Exactly.
While I don't agree with this lynch, I'm not going to really freak about it. It's pretty typical for us to lynch another human night 1, and it's always possible I'm wrong. For right now though, that's why I'm not voting for TBWCW. I'll vote for shadowkirby cause he's so quiet.

Safety on Mashi.

Quote from: spitllama on December 02, 2012, 05:49:29 PMI'll vote for shadowkirby cause he's so quiet.

The game has just started recently; some people prefer to sit back and observe. Me? I prefer to throw some stones in the pond, and then observe... unless sitting back would get more results.

Where the heck are Mashi and Bubbles, for that matter?

Quote from: gzgregory on December 02, 2012, 09:08:11 PMWhere the heck are Mashi and Bubbles, for that matter?

Bubbles: Last; page 10.

Mashi: ... .

Ok, I've gotten sufficient information. You can insta now.

I think it would be usefull if players holding starters would claim to me (and claim what starters they have).

I still don't see why I'll be lynched, why don't we let mashi decide? Eh?

Quote from: gzgregory on December 02, 2012, 09:08:11 PMWhere the heck are Mashi and Bubbles, for that matter?

Did you not see me ranting about boy :P

Quote from: Bubbles7689 on December 03, 2012, 09:47:04 AMDid you not see me ranting about boy :P

Yes, but I ranted too.

Mashi's been having internet troubles.

In my opinion, TBWCW could be a human or a wolf given that his trick was to find other wolves.
I'm worried that the people leading the lynch against him could be wolves, if not humans who aren't thinking too hard.

People I'm fairly certain aren't wolves are k-night and mashi for having confusion about the wolves not knowing each other later in the game, and Bubbles for sounding honest in her rant about theboywhocriedwolf.

Other than that, I don't really know. Also, note that I never said that TBWCW isn't a wolf; Mainly I think the insta that almost happened on him was a bit rushed, though.

And also if he posted something else that made him look suspicious within the last page or two, there's a slight chance I haven't read it yet.  :P

All I've done is send messages and that makes me a wolf. :P

Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on December 03, 2012, 12:28:56 PMAll I've done is send messages and that makes me a wolf. :P

Because of the way you did it.

 I'm not just rushing a lynch; I'm examining all the details. Unless you can give us a reason not to suspect Boy here, or give us another suspect, then he's currently the most likely candidate for wolf.

I can only use pokemon at night, and I have a pokemon to make me immune from 1 phase.

A wolf certainly wouldn't make himself immune to night phases, would he?

Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on December 03, 2012, 01:20:47 PMI can only use pokemon at night, and I have a pokemon to make me immune from 1 phase.

A wolf certainly wouldn't make himself immune to night phases, would he?

The wolves don't know each other; there's actually a chance the wolves could wolf another wolf by mistake.
If a wolf had a plan during the day, they'd want to keep themselves as safe as possible beforehand.

Cool, my seers on you tonight ;)

Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on December 03, 2012, 02:26:57 PMCool, my seers on you tonight ;)

But its the day phase...plus you're 90% dead

Also you said that a wolf wouldn't protect themselves from a night phase, and though BDS is correct about the wolves possibly wolfing themselves, we have no proof that you actually have slakoth anyway, unless someone else would like to speak up

Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on December 03, 2012, 02:26:57 PMCool, my seers on you tonight ;)

Thank you... for making no sense. :P Even if you weren't lynched, how can we even trust that you have a seer Pokemon? Or that you'd tell the truth, and not just pull another trick like earlier, to try and throw people into guilt, especially if you ARE a wolf?

Safety on Jub.
I don't agree with this lynch but I'm not particularly averse to it either.

Well this is rather frivolous.

Quote from: shadowkirby on December 03, 2012, 03:27:06 PMWell this is rather frivolous.

Not quite yet... but in time. :P

Safety on shadowkirby because I don't want a phantom but I'm not confident in this lynch either.

Haven't I already been saftied on?

Im pretty sure you've got 2 votes, not including jub's safty.

Same thing really

Sorry for my inactivity, everyone; laptop troubles.  The issues are resolved now though.
Anyhow, TheBoyWhoCriedWolf's message to me read:

TWG Pokemon
« Sent to: Mashi on: Today at 03:55:05 PM »
ReplyQuoteRemove
Hi there [username], it appears that last night I got a red result on you, before I say anything in the main thread would you like to defend yourself?

Also, ahahahaha, I was wolfed.  I used Darmanitan on myself that Phase; turned out to be a good decision on my part. (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fllforum.net%2Fimages%2Fsmilies%2Ftweeet.gif&hash=64ae1cbff0cc1f4351cb4104367671904617e5e9)

Anyhow, I agree that I don't really find TheBoyWhoCriedWolf suspicious; from the PM he sent me, his plan seemed impulsive and quick (he forgot to insert my name!), not how I would imagine a Wolf to behave.

I would like those who voted for TheBoyWhoCriedWolf to post in response their reasons for voting him so quickly.

Anyhow, I'll be in the chat, so come visit so we can have a chat party!!!

Quote from: shadowkirby on December 03, 2012, 04:20:09 PMHaven't I already been saftied on?

Sorry! D:
safety on gzgregory?

Quote from: Mashi on December 03, 2012, 04:32:13 PMSorry for my inactivity, everyone; laptop troubles.  The issues are resolved now though.
Anyhow, TheBoyWhoCriedWolf's message to me read:

TWG Pokemon
« Sent to: Mashi on: Today at 03:55:05 PM »
ReplyQuoteRemove
Hi there [username], it appears that last night I got a red result on you, before I say anything in the main thread would you like to defend yourself?

Also, ahahahaha, I was wolfed.  I used Darmanitan on myself that Phase; turned out to be a good decision on my part. (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fllforum.net%2Fimages%2Fsmilies%2Ftweeet.gif&hash=64ae1cbff0cc1f4351cb4104367671904617e5e9)

Anyhow, I agree that I don't really find TheBoyWhoCriedWolf suspicious; from the PM he sent me, his plan seemed impulsive and quick (he forgot to insert my name!), not how I would imagine a Wolf to behave.

I would like those who voted for TheBoyWhoCriedWolf to post in response their reasons for voting him so quickly.

Anyhow, I'll be in the chat, so come visit so we can have a chat party!!!

I have already posted my responses several, many times... again, I was not quick, nor impulsive; a good detective always looks over the facts.
The fact that he forgot your username makes it seem mechanical and, even more planned, because, apparently, he used some sort of copy and paste template. :P I it was impulsive, he would have only targeted a few people, lest he blow his cover... like he did anyway..

Quote from: Mashi on December 03, 2012, 04:32:13 PMI would like those who voted for TheBoyWhoCriedWolf to post in response their reasons for voting him so quickly.

The reason why I voted for him was because I wanted to force him to make a defence. He has clearly been acting the most suspicious of all players yet, so I thought it was right to see what his defence would be. However, I did remove my vote later on when he obtained a lot of votes, because, although I do prefer him to be lynched atm above any other player, I don't want to insta him, so that there might be a player acting even more suspicious than he.

That being said, I have recieved nearly no claims for starter pokémon. Please claim to me.

Everyone knows boy is going to be lynched, so idk why youre still avoiding an insta. It would just speed things up and end the phase faster. It would take something huge at this point to sway the vote before the phase ends

Unless davy is still sorting out the starter thing

Davy, I have one.

The top players haven't voted me so doesn't this show that maybe you guys are just a little paranoid? I have some of the best pokemon in this game. Someone please seer me tonight if I don't die, prove my innocence. Then I would like to trade some of my pokemon with ones that can seer (preferably lucario) and I can use it double the amount of times you guys can!

Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on December 04, 2012, 09:22:53 AMI have some of the best pokemon in this game.

Weren't you just trying to trade two of your pokemon earlier because you said they were worthless to you?

Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on December 04, 2012, 09:22:53 AMThen I would like to trade some of my pokemon with ones that can seer (preferably lucario)

Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on December 01, 2012, 05:39:10 PMNoone wants my pokemon? Seriously? :( I got a seering. I'd switch it for majikarp honestly, but would rather something else..

Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on December 03, 2012, 02:26:57 PMCool, my seers on you tonight ;)

Dont you already have a seer Pokemon? I dont see why you would need 4+ seerings, if what you're saying is true

Yes I did, if blue is still up for the trade I'll go with it.

and i just found out that my seer can't be used anymore. :(

Reminder:

When sending PMs, remember to send the PM to both me and Sheikah also.

Quote from: Waddle Bro on December 04, 2012, 10:43:26 AMReminder:

When sending PMs, remember to send the PM to both me and Sheikah also.

I've been good about it!... I hope. :P
Although, I'm certainly not sending as many as last game... :P

I haven't been able to interrogate people, so I don't know what to do. :(
I'll place a tentative vote on K-NiGhT for now for voting so quickly (and having some resolve in his vote), but I'll probably change my vote if I can reread the thread and form new conclusions in time.

TWG XLIV: The Pokemon League
*Hosted by the_last_sheikah and Waddle Bro*

The game's universal effect: Items and Cardflip

The Rivals(Wolves):

1. Rival
2. Rival
3. Rival

The wolves don't know eachother.

The Trainers(Humans):

4. Trainer
5. Trainer
6. Trainer
7. Trainer
8. Trainer
9. Trainer
10. Trainer
11. Trainer (will be told that (s)he's green)
12. Trainer (will be told that (s)he's green)

1. Youngster BlackDragonSlayer
2. Artist K-NiGhT
3. Beauty Bubbles7689
4. Aroma Lady/Guy blueflower999
5. PI shadowkirby
6. Veteran Dude
7. The Fisherman Who Cried Wolf
8. Black Belt gzgregory
9. Cooltrainer Mashi
10. Ace Trainer spitllama
11. Gentleman davy
12. PokéManiac Jub3r7

The Boy Who Cried Wolf was buffeted by a sandstorm!  The Boy Who Cried Wolf fainted!
It is now Night 2.  Night 2 ends Wednesday 10 PM EST.(use this http://www.timeanddate.com/time/map/ to convert)

Anyone up for a quick chat party? I may be inactive cuz I'm busy writing.

Death by sandstorm... the worst kind.

Quote from: spitllama on December 04, 2012, 07:59:35 PMDeath by sandstorm... the worst kind.

Looks like he...
*puts on Blackglasses*
Forgot to pack his Go-Goggles.

Yeeaaaah!

Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on December 04, 2012, 08:03:44 PMLooks like he...
*puts on Blackglasses*
Forgot to pack his Go-Goggles.

Yeeaaaah!

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages1.wikia.nocookie.net%2F__cb20120819201813%2Fcreepypasta%2Fimages%2F5%2F56%2FDisgusted-oh-god-why-text.png&hash=108a3c385d14786034e2d4aae1424393e34ec470)

i liked your joke, blackdragonslayer

Quote from: Mashi on December 04, 2012, 08:29:15 PMi liked your joke, blackdragonslayer

Uh oh... you're not talking in caps...

22:34      --- Vera is back
22:34   Vera   idk who to vote for
22:34   Vera   Everyone seemed Human.
22:35      *** BlackDragonSlayer joined #twgnsm
22:35   BlackDragonSlayer   Celebi
22:35   Vera   Yay.
22:35   BlackDragonSlayer   What would you say if I used Celebi
22:35   BlackDragonSlayer   Tonight
22:35   Vera   What Phase would it be then?
22:36   K-NiGhT   Wait what does Celebi do again?
22:36   BlackDragonSlayer   It would go foward to the next day, giving us more time before another wolfing takes place... but then it would go back...
22:36   BlackDragonSlayer   Celebi, can go back or go forward in time a phase(no wolfings or lynchings will happen that phase) immediately after the PM has been sent, but two phases later you will skip/go back(opposite to the option chosen before one phase) one phase.(EX1: The player uses Celebi Day 1 to go back. No lynching happens. It's Night 1 again. BUT, Night 2 will be skipped, mea
22:37   BlackDragonSlayer   meaning after Day 1, there will be Day 2.  EX2: The player uses Celebi Night 2 to go forward in time to Day 2. No wolfing happens. BUT, after Day 2 ends, it'll be Night 2 again. One-time use.
22:37   K-NiGhT   So then what happens after night 2?
22:38      *** smerft joined #twgnsm
22:38   BlackDragonSlayer   Time is distorted, essentially.
22:38   smerft   smerft would like to join your party
22:38   BlackDragonSlayer   Who are you, smerft??
22:38   K-NiGhT   Decline invite
22:38   smerft   
22:38   smerft   smerft will leave.
22:38   K-NiGhT   Identify yourself!
22:38   smerft   but he shall be
22:38   smerft   back
22:38   smerft   again someday
22:38   BlackDragonSlayer   Halt! Show your identification!
22:39   smerft   goodbye young fellows...
22:39   smerft   fare thee well...
22:39   BlackDragonSlayer   ...
22:39      *** smerft quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
22:39   BlackDragonSlayer   Please; who are you?
22:39   BlackDragonSlayer   Aaahh...
22:39      >>> smerft was Mibbit@NF-C22258DB.gci.net http://www.mibbit.com
22:39   Vera   Some random person, probably.
22:39   K-NiGhT   That was...interesting. Post that in the thread. Totes relevant.
22:40   BlackDragonSlayer   If the wolves know I have Celebi, they might have more incentive to wolf me.
22:40   BlackDragonSlayer   Which means that, if I don't use it, and one of you is a wolf, I might not get any chance to use it.
22:41   K-NiGhT   Yeah. You should definitely be careful and know who you're talking to. D:
22:41   Vera   To be honest, I think it's extraordinarily unlikely for me to be a Wolf based on the wolfing alone.
22:41   K-NiGhT   Why?
22:41   BlackDragonSlayer   Well, at least I want somebody to know my plans, so that I don't disrupt any human's possible plans.
22:41   Vera   I survived a wolfing because I guarded myself.
22:41   BlackDragonSlayer   And, I never mentioned anyone in particular, VERA.
22:42   Vera   You said one of you!!!
22:42   K-NiGhT   Oh. That's right I fogaut about this.
22:42   BlackDragonSlayer   ONE of you COULD be.
22:42   K-NiGhT   Are you implying that I am a wolf?
22:42   K-NiGhT   Lololololol
22:43   BlackDragonSlayer   All of you have a CHANCE to be... unlike last game, everybody seems to be more cautious about... well, talking and everything. Not Boy, though.......
22:43   Vera   Fair enough.
22:43   BlackDragonSlayer   There currently isn't much information to go by.
22:43   K-NiGhT   Btw I thought last game was SOOPER COLL
22:44   BlackDragonSlayer   I was amazingly active in the PM section... not so much now...
22:44   Vera   Was last game the one where the hurricane made me incapable of playing?
22:44   BlackDragonSlayer   Because I don't have much reason too...
22:44   K-NiGhT   I believe so
22:45   K-NiGhT   *yawn*
22:45   K-NiGhT   I'm gonna go write.
22:45   Vera   Waaait.
22:45   Vera   Before you do so.
22:45   K-NiGhT   Whaaat
22:45   Vera   Suspicions???
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22:45   Vera   Yaaay, Kman96.
22:45   Kman96   OMGOMGOMG
22:45   Kman96   I saw "Chat party" and I rushed over here.
22:45   BlackDragonSlayer   Bubbles seems somewhat suspicious; and not just for defending a suspected wolf.
22:46   BlackDragonSlayer   I know, because I've done that before.
22:46   K-NiGhT   Honestly, I feel like it's too early to have any big doubts on anyone.
22:46   BlackDragonSlayer   Chance of me being a Miller again?
22:46   K-NiGhT   You also must remember, BDS, that wolves don't know each other. I forgot about that as well. Otherwise I would've suspected Bubbles as well.
22:47   Kman96   omfg
22:47   BlackDragonSlayer   Bubbles could've thought Boy was a wolf, and tried to keep him alive.
22:47   Vera   Kman96, are you playing?
22:47   K-NiGhT   And I just used as well twice in two sentences wtf
22:47   Kman96   I thought of like the perfect twg
22:47   Kman96   no im not
22:47   Vera   Ah, okay.
22:47   Vera   And
22:47   BlackDragonSlayer   But then again, defending somebody doesn't automatically make you a wolf.
22:47   Kman96   I haven't played in months
22:47   BlackDragonSlayer   It just depends on HOW one goes about it.
22:47   K-NiGhT   OMG Kman play for me D: I want to write.
22:48   Kman96   noooo. I haz no time!
22:48   Vera   How are wolfings decided for the Wolves?
22:48   Kman96   btw me and mashi know who did it.
22:48   Vera   First person or randomised?
22:48   BlackDragonSlayer   What about davy?
22:48   K-NiGhT   I think they're up to a vote
22:48   Vera   I'm too lazy to look at the first post.
22:48   Vera   Or wherever.
22:48   Vera   So random?
22:48   K-NiGhT   Ya pree much
22:48   BlackDragonSlayer   What about davy? Is davy seeming more human?
22:49   K-NiGhT   Idunno
22:49   BlackDragonSlayer   Davy wants my starter.
22:49   K-NiGhT   Who should I use my seeing Pokemon on?
22:49   BlackDragonSlayer   I'm thinking that davy could be a wolf trying to get my starter, then wolf me. Or just a human who wants to be the very best trainer.
22:50   Vera   I didn't really get why davy suddenly decided to be an alliance leader.
22:50   BlackDragonSlayer   They need Light-type Pokemon...
22:50   Vera   Like, his reasoning for doing so.
22:53   BlackDragonSlayer   Davy still has Ha Des as an avatar.
22:53   BlackDragonSlayer   Unrelated to the game, off course! (or is it)
22:54   BlackDragonSlayer   Davy also implied that there was one other "Alliance member." Any thoughts???
22:55   BlackDragonSlayer   *only one
22:56   BlackDragonSlayer   Well... where has everybody gone?
22:56   Vera   Sorry.
22:56   Vera   Became preoccupied shortly with something else.
22:57   Vera   But I think he meant the Plusle-Minum thing.
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22:59   Kman96   Minun*
22:59   Vera   
22:59   Kman96   koooorrrrrrbiiiiiiiin
22:59   Vera   spitllamaaa.
22:59   spit   Hi
22:59   spit   Wat
22:59   Vera   Want to explain to us why davy decided his plan made him an alliance leader???
23:00   spit   I COMPLETELY AGREE
23:00   Kman96   lol
23:00   spit   He was like "gimme your good pokemon"
23:00   BlackDragonSlayer   He did the same thing to me, spit
23:00   spit   I'm like no if you're so human just tell me what to do
23:00   spit   Really?
23:00   BlackDragonSlayer   Aside from the fact you can only do one trade.
23:00   Kman96   guis i gtg baiiiiii
23:00   BlackDragonSlayer   YES.
23:00      *** Kman96 quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
23:01   spit   Well I think it's sketch
23:01   spit   Vera did you hear anything about the plan?
23:01   BlackDragonSlayer   Well, I must be going now...
23:01   K-NiGhT   Should I seer him?
23:02   BlackDragonSlayer   Quick vote: Celebi, yes or no?
23:02   spit   When did you get a seer
23:02   K-NiGhT   Davy, that is.
23:02   K-NiGhT   I have Lucario.
23:02   spit   Oh
23:02   spit   News to me
23:02   spit   No don't seer him
23:02   K-NiGhT   Was I supposed to claim or something
23:02   spit   I... already did that
23:03   K-NiGhT   Oh okay.
23:03   BlackDragonSlayer   Well, goodbye...
23:03      *** BlackDragonSlayer quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
23:03   K-NiGhT   Bye
23:03   spit   Also no don't feel obligated I already claimed whether or not I had starters and he pretty must just asked for my best one
23:03   K-NiGhT   That's so sketchy
23:03   Vera   No, to be honest, I hadn't been able to get to read the game since yesterday due to laptop problems.
23:04   spit   That's fine
23:04   Vera   Hmm.
23:04   K-NiGhT   I'm gonna write some more. This first round is a pain in my butt
23:05   spit   Kaaay
23:05   spit   You know Vera
23:05   spit   They say at any one time there's a wolf in the chatroom
23:05   Vera   Greens can choose a Pokemon reveal this Phase.
23:05   Vera   
23:05   K-NiGhT   Also K is TOTES NOT SHORT FOR KORBIN IDK WTF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
23:05   Vera   What if there's one person in the chat???
23:05   K-NiGhT   It's ETF isn't it.
23:06   spit   It's like a tree falling when no one's around
23:06   Vera   i new it
23:06   spit   It's the wolf but what does it matter
23:06   Vera   what if the tree causes an earthquake
23:06   Vera   you could hear the earthquake
23:06   K-NiGhT   That's a huge tree O.O
23:06   spit   But who would honestly attribute it to a tree?
23:06   Vera   what if the tree caused the extinction of the dinosaurs
23:06   Vera   ever think of that???
23:07   spit   I did but at the time I was high
23:07   spit   jkjk
23:07   Vera   lol
23:07   K-NiGhT   Oh my god you just blew my mind.
23:07   spit   @ the grass starter thing
23:07   K-NiGhT   Anyway. Writing. Brb.
23:07   spit   Did you have someone to propose or were you just saying that
23:08   Vera   Just saying that to start some conversation.
23:08   Vera   I'm curious to know who caught Lucario though, since Jub3r7 apparently wanted it badly.
23:08   spit   Oh. I've considered Smeargle but no one's counterclaimed possesion
23:08   Vera   And there was another Pokemon 3 people threw a Masterball too.
23:08   spit   You don't think it was K-Night
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23:08   Vera   K-NiGhT, you caught Lucario???
23:09   spit   23:02   K-NiGhT   I have Lucario.
23:09   Vera   lol
23:09   Fox   Hello.
23:09   Vera   As you can see, I'm not in my prime for TWG at the moment.
23:09   spit   Is whatevs
23:09   Vera   So that's one mystery solved, anyhow.
23:09   spit   Tbh after I signed up for this TWG I was like "why did I do this to myself there're so many words on the OP"
23:10   spit   I didn't even use any pokeballs
23:10   Vera   lol
23:10   Vera   spitllama for best Pokemon trainer.
23:10   Vera   Caught 6 Pokemons without Pokeballs!!!
23:11   spit   I willed them to obey
23:11   spit   Or I befriended them who knows
23:11   K-NiGhT   Just like Steven...
23:11   spit   Is all the same in pokemanz
23:12   spit   So anyhow I need to go cause I gots this essay on the silliness of Progressives and unfortunately it refused to write itself
23:12   Fox   whts your role?
23:12      *** spit quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
23:13   Vera   im ash ketchum
23:14   Fox   IM TOBIAS WITH HIS MOTHER******* UBERS.
23:14   Fox   Can you please Private Chat me your roles?
23:15   Vera   im trainer
23:15   Vera   the best trainer
23:15   Vera   aka
23:15   Vera   youngster joey
23:15   Fox   I HAVE LEDGENDERIES
23:17   Fox   It is allowed I think.
23:17   Fox   Bird asked me for my role in uprising madness.
23:18   Fox   Is it allowed to ask individual players their roles?
23:18   Vera   Yes.
23:18   Vera   brb
23:18   Fox   Uprising madness was my best game.
23:20   Fox   What's your role K-NiGHhT
23:23      *** K-NiGhT quit (Ping timeout)
23:27   Vera   Back.
23:27   Fox   Whats your role?
23:28   Fox   Privete chat me it.
23:28   Vera   I am the Host.
23:28   Fox   Are you Sosuke Aizen?
23:29   Fox   gtg
23:29      *** Fox quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
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Do not reveal any game information to people who are not playing.

If you do, you will be punished.

SocialFox, you say that you can behave, but your actions show different...

Welp, pew pew, kill the dragon slayer!

Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on December 05, 2012, 12:07:38 AMWelp, pew pew, kill the dragon slayer!

...I hope you don't hold grudges...

You are not allowed to make death posts if you get lynched.

Thank you.

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TIME WARP!
It is now Day 2.  Day 2 ends Thursday 10PM EST.(use this http://www.timeanddate.com/time/map/ to convert)

Why did we use Celebi? It would have been more useful if we at least had a good guess who a wolf was. This just seems like a missed opportunity to learn from a wolfing.

@spit I agree. Now all we have to go with as for finding wolves is the one failed wolfing

@BDS In the chat, you said I defended TBWCW? Explain (Because Im pretty sure Im the one who shoved him into his coffin)

Quote from: Mashi on December 04, 2012, 08:57:48 PM22:48   BlackDragonSlayer   What about davy? Is davy seeming more human?
22:49   K-NiGhT   Idunno
22:49   BlackDragonSlayer   Davy wants my starter.
22:49   K-NiGhT   Who should I use my seeing Pokemon on?
22:49   BlackDragonSlayer   I'm thinking that davy could be a wolf trying to get my starter, then wolf me. Or just a human who wants to be the very best trainer.

I did pretty much the same thing as jake did during TWG XXXIV. Asking normal humans to (or maybe even wolves) to give there items (or in this case, pokémon) to the alliance so that the alliance would become stronger.

Quote from: Mashi on December 04, 2012, 08:57:48 PM22:50   Vera   I didn't really get why davy suddenly decided to be an alliance leader.
22:50   BlackDragonSlayer   They need Light-type Pokemon...
22:50   Vera   Like, his reasoning for doing so.

I decided to be an alliance leader because as far as I know, humans have a better chance of winning the game if there is a human alliance than if there is no alliance. As I own two pokémon (Braviary and Minum) that can seer a player and both results were green, I now already know two other players that are green and therefore likely a human. Also, since I have Minum, a total of 3 players know that I'm green, which means that I could not have lied about my color.

Quote from: Mashi on December 04, 2012, 08:57:48 PM22:53   BlackDragonSlayer   Davy still has Ha Des as an avatar.
22:53   BlackDragonSlayer   Unrelated to the game, off course! (or is it)

Quote from: Mashi on December 04, 2012, 08:57:48 PMMy avatar is the artwork of the yugioh card 'A deal with Dark Ruler' which is obviously a reference to the last game (making deals with mephistopheles). It has nothing to do with the current game.

Quote from: Mashi on December 04, 2012, 08:57:48 PM22:54   BlackDragonSlayer   Davy also implied that there was one other "Alliance member." Any thoughts???
22:55   BlackDragonSlayer   *only one
22:56   BlackDragonSlayer   Well... where has everybody gone?
22:56   Vera   Sorry.
22:56   Vera   Became preoccupied shortly with something else.
22:57   Vera   But I think he meant the Plusle-Minum thing.

Yes that was the Plusle holder. At that moment, I hadn't recieved the seer result of the Mandibuzz holder yet, and I do not yet want to add gzg and spit to the alliance as long as there has not been a seer on them.

Quote from: Mashi on December 04, 2012, 08:57:48 PM23:00   spit   He was like "gimme your good pokemon"
23:00   BlackDragonSlayer   He did the same thing to me, spit
23:00   spit   I'm like no if you're so human just tell me what to do
23:00   spit   Really?
23:00   BlackDragonSlayer   Aside from the fact you can only do one trade.

As BDS didn't really wanted to cooperate with my trading idea, I thought it would be wise to ask multiple players for the trade at the same time so that the chance that a trade would actually go through would be bigger.

Quote from: Bubbles7689 on December 05, 2012, 07:41:52 AM@BDS In the chat, you said I defended TBWCW? Explain (Because Im pretty sure Im the one who shoved him into his coffin)

I thought you were DEFENDING him? :o

Quote from: Bubbles7689 on December 02, 2012, 02:14:52 PMYou were trying to find wolf partners? Im assuming you mean finding wolves, not wolf partners. Also how is
"Hi there Bubbles, it appears that last night I got a red result on you, before I say anything in the main thread would you like to defend yourself?"
saying you're a wolf and you want to create an alliance with me? You basically said "you're red, so Im gonna tell on you"

That post made it seem as if you were saying that he wasn't a wolf...

Quote from: davy on December 05, 2012, 08:10:10 AMI did pretty much the same thing as jake did during TWG XXXIV. Asking normal humans to (or maybe even wolves) to give there items (or in this case, pokémon) to the alliance so that the alliance would become stronger.

But you can only trade one Pokemon... and having multiple starters would not make you any stronger; it would just make you a bigger target. Especially, since there are a very limited number of guarding Pokemon (with Gardevoir being the only one left?).
And, how did you know I wouldn't cooperate with the trade...? :P Or did you send the other PMs AFTER I replied to you?

Quote from: davy on December 05, 2012, 08:10:10 AMMy avatar is the artwork of the yugioh card 'A deal with Dark Ruler' which is obviously a reference to the last game (making deals with mephistopheles). It has nothing to do with the current game.

I understand that. :P I was just making a joke. :P


On another note, I used Celebi, in part, to avoid a wolfing, so that eveyone's still alive (for example, like if Mashi was wolfed again... or if Davy was wolfed). Although it probably would have been better to active the power around the middle of the night, one of the only things we missed out on is the use of 2nd night starters powers, and use of other Pokemon.

Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on December 05, 2012, 11:02:01 AMBut you can only trade one Pokemon... and having multiple starters would not make you any stronger; it would just make you a bigger target. Especially, since there are a very limited number of guarding Pokemon (with Gardevoir being the only one left?).
And, how did you know I wouldn't cooperate with the trade...? :P Or did you send the other PMs AFTER I replied to you?
I understand that. :P I was just making a joke. :P


On another note, I used Celebi, in part, to avoid a wolfing, so that eveyone's still alive (for example, like if Mashi was wolfed again... or if Davy was wolfed). Although it probably would have been better to active the power around the middle of the night, one of the only things we missed out on is the use of 2nd night starters powers, and use of other Pokemon.

As I explained in my earlier post, I knew I could only trade once, and this seemed like my best option. I have currently no starters at all, so having a starter as alliance leader would be very benificial. I don't care about becomming a bigger target due to the number of revivals possible in this game. I sent the PM's to spitllama after you replied to me.

As Celebi's description says, it will be night 2 after this day phase, so the night 2 starter powers will still be activated. However, if I'm correct that does mean there will be 2 night phases after this day phase.

Quote from: davy on December 05, 2012, 11:55:20 AMAs I explained in my earlier post, I knew I could only trade once, and this seemed like my best option. I have currently no starters at all, so having a starter as alliance leader would be very benificial. I don't care about becomming a bigger target due to the number of revivals possible in this game. I sent the PM's to spitllama after you replied to me.

As Celebi's description says, it will be night 2 after this day phase, so the night 2 starter powers will still be activated. However, if I'm correct that does mean there will be 2 night phases after this day phase.

Wait a minute... you just said you didn't have any GRASS starters. :S But now you're saying you don't have any starters at all...

Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on December 05, 2012, 12:17:50 PMWait a minute... you just said you didn't have any GRASS starters. :S But now you're saying you don't have any starters at all...

I don't want to reveal much information unless necessairy. Having no starters at all also means that I have no grass starters. I didn't say anything about having other starters.

Davy, you aren't confirmed. No one should be willingly handing over Pokemon to you, since there's still a chance you're the Master Wolf.

Quote from: gzgregory on December 05, 2012, 02:32:47 PMDavy, you aren't confirmed. No one should be willingly handing over Pokemon to you, since there's still a chance you're the Master Wolf.

Three possibilities:
1: The Boy Who Cried Wolf was the Master Wolf, and Davy isn't.
2: Davy is the Master Wolf, and The Boy Who Cried Wolf wasn't.
3: Something happened with Smeargle...

Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on December 05, 2012, 11:02:01 AMI thought you were DEFENDING him? :o

Quote from: Bubbles7689 on December 02, 2012, 02:14:52 PMYou were trying to find wolf partners? Im assuming you mean finding wolves, not wolf partners. Also how is
"Hi there Bubbles, it appears that last night I got a red result on you, before I say anything in the main thread would you like to defend yourself?"
saying you're a wolf and you want to create an alliance with me? You basically said "you're red, so Im gonna tell on you"

That post made it seem as if you were saying that he wasn't a wolf...

In that post I was pointing out that TBWCW said he was trying to find wolf partners, which is a notebly odd thing for a human to say. One of his defences for sending everyone those pms was that he wanted to make a fake alliance with the wolves so he could find out who they were. In that post I said how thats a dumb excuse, since in his pm he told me that I should defend myself before he revealed my color to the thread, which is more of a "Im gonna tell on you" than "I know your a wolf and so am I so lets be friends"

Sorry if it was confusing

So I blinked and 4 pages happened, what did I miss? (I'll go back and read things)

Quote from: Jub3r7 on December 05, 2012, 04:27:50 PMSo I blinked and 4 pages happened, what did I miss? (I'll go back and read things)

I used Celebi and it's the Day now. We have to carefully plan, lest we accidentally lynch the wrong person.
Let's spark some discussion and see the results!! :P

Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on December 05, 2012, 02:38:57 PMThree possibilities:
1: The Boy Who Cried Wolf was the Master Wolf, and Davy isn't.
2: Davy is the Master Wolf, and The Boy Who Cried Wolf wasn't.
3: Something happened with Smeargle...

Fourth possibility: neither were wolves.
:P
In any case, although Davy's bargaining for a starter strikes me as odd, I don't think that necessarily means he's a wolf: the odds are against it due to colors. On the other hand, Mashi mentioned last night that nobody in this pseudo-alliance was actually confirmed, so we should take anything they say with a grain of salt!

Quote from: gzgregory on December 05, 2012, 05:16:13 PMFourth possibility: neither were wolves.
:P
In any case, although Davy's bargaining for a starter strikes me as odd, I don't think that necessarily means he's a wolf: the odds are against it due to colors. On the other hand, Mashi mentioned last night that nobody in this pseudo-alliance was actually confirmed, so we should take anything they say with a grain of salt!

That is a lot less likely, given both of their actions... either that, or most of the wolves aren't very active on the topic!!! Or are hiding well. :P

Day phase is going to end soon, and I don't want a phantom. So I'm going to placde my vote on Dude because he's not very active, which is the thing he usually does when he is a wolf (plus there's not much to go on anyway).

Safety on Gregory

Quote from: davy on December 06, 2012, 12:31:30 PMDay phase is going to end soon, and I don't want a phantom. So I'm going to placde my vote on Dude because he's not very active, which is the thing he usually does when he is a wolf (plus there's not much to go on anyway).

lolk Dude

This game is so insanely confusing I wouldn't do much for you guys anyway.

Sorry. I sucked this time. :-[

Safety on Bubbles7689...

I really hoped that there would be more discussion, but... unfortunately, not much has come except an escaped wolfing...

Don't give up hope Dude!! You can still help us!

Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on December 06, 2012, 12:50:41 PMDon't give up hope Dude!!

But I'm good at it! I was told to go with my strengths!

Quote from: Dude on December 06, 2012, 12:55:59 PMBut I'm good at it! I was told to go with my strengths!

Let's use our brains!! Try and find the wolves before the phase is over... before lots of phantoms are given out... :P
Hmm... I really didn't think that there would be this much confusion... I had hoped that everyone would work together...

Ok fine, safety on spit then.

Safety on Mashi.

We're quite divided...

Well, why not DISCUSS things... get some information... or is everybody too afraid that they'll be framed?

Requesting 24 hour phase extension.  Although 36 hours is still quite a bit of time, I feel that it's often more acceptable to allot more time to Players if an event like this happens (as in, continue with ~48 hour minimum for Day Phases and ~24 hour minimum for Night Phases).

With that aside, I'll be in the chat in the meantime.  I'll have to leave in about 45 minutes though (6:15PM EST), but will return at about 8PM EST.

Quote from: Mashi on December 06, 2012, 02:33:17 PMRequesting 24 hour phase extension.  Although 36 hours is still quite a bit of time, I feel that it's often more acceptable to allot more time to Players if an event like this happens (as in, continue with ~48 hour minimum for Day Phases and ~24 hour minimum for Night Phases).

With that aside, I'll be in the chat in the meantime.  I'll have to leave in about 45 minutes though (6:15PM EST), but will return at about 8PM EST.

Give people time for discussion (hint hint) and avoid a whole truck-full of phantoms...

I am consulting Waddle's opinion on the matter, but most likely I will extend the phase.  Carry on as normal though.

Bleh. Please extend it

Safety on BDS

Quote from: Bubbles7689 on December 06, 2012, 03:55:16 PMBleh. Please extend it

Safety on BDS

We're all going back and forth and back and forth...
I thought more would come of this. But nobody wanted to talk? :P

There's nothing to discuss until we see more Pokemon activity. That's why I said it was dumb to use Celebi.

I'll safety on blueflower999, though, I'm still advocating for a Phase extension!!!

Woops, yeah Phase Extension Granted
THIS PHASE NOW ENDS 11PM EST FRIDAY.

I suggest we actually use this phase extension, instead of just waiting for it to be over

Quote from: Bubbles7689 on December 06, 2012, 08:22:11 PMI suggest we actually use this phase extension, instead of just waiting for it to be over

Well, how should we start?

Come to the chatroom and ping me if I don't respond immediately!!!

Chat  :Dparty at 4pm so that I can actually join it.

Safety on Davy for now.

Shadowkirby because there's not a whole lot we can do, and a 10 person KiTB sucks.

Well, that was a fruitful use of a Phase extension.
Sorry that I wasn't here for most of it, school duties and I hadn't returned home until 9PM EST today.
Going to change my safety to shadowkirby, because I don't want to make a KitB and shadowkirby hasn't been so active (hypocritical of me to say, but oh well!).

22:36   Vera   idk what to do
22:36      *** K-NiGhT quit (Ping timeout)
22:46   Vera   gzgregory
22:46   Vera   what do we do
22:46   gzgregory   Hmm?
22:46   Vera   I don't want a KitB of 23530 Players.
22:46   gzgregory   I DON"T KNOW D:
22:49   Vera   should i vote for davy
22:50   Vera   Maybe shadowkirby.
22:50   gzgregory   I dunno, but you'll determine it.
22:50   gzgregory   I have to go.
22:50   gzgregory   I'd advise against voting Davy though.
22:51   gzgregory   He's green.
22:51   Vera   I think I'll vote for shadowkirby.
22:51   Vera   But that'll keep the KitB, I think.
22:51   gzgregory   Anyway bye.
22:51   Vera   Byeee.
22:51   gzgregory   I can toss a vote on him too before I leave I guess.
22:52   gzgregory   Done.
22:52   gzgregory   Kbye.
22:52   Vera   Thanks.
22:52   Vera   Byeeee.
22:52      *** gzgregory quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 18.0/20121205060959])

TWG XLIV: The Pokemon League
*Hosted by the_last_sheikah and Waddle Bro*

The game's universal effect: Items and Cardflip

The Rivals(Wolves):

1. Rival
2. Rival
3. Rival

The wolves don't know eachother.

The Trainers(Humans):

4. Trainer
5. Trainer
6. Trainer
7. Trainer
8. Trainer
9. Trainer
10. Trainer
11. Trainer (will be told that (s)he's green)
12. Trainer (will be told that (s)he's green)

1. Youngster BlackDragonSlayer
2. Artist K-NiGhT
3. Beauty Bubbles7689
4. Aroma Lady/Guy blueflower999
5. PI shadowkirby
6. Veteran Dude
7. The Fisherman Who Cried Wolf
8. Black Belt gzgregory
9. Cooltrainer Mashi
10. Ace Trainer spitllama P
11. Gentleman davy
12. PokéManiac Jub3r7 P

KitB! Shadowkirby was lost in a time vortex!  Shadowkirby was obliterated! fainted!
It is now Night 2.  Night 2 ends Saturday 10 PM EST.(use this http://www.timeanddate.com/time/map/ to convert)

God damnit.
So, according to Celebi rules, the phase after this one will be Night 3, right?

No, night 2 will be relived and someone else will die.  Shadow stays dead though.

Meaning 2 night phases in a row.


Woo

Oops sorry, I meant to say day 2 will be relived.

So progress goes:
Night 1
Day 1
Day 2
Night 2
Day 2
Night 3
continues as normal.

Oh. Apparently we were supposed to vote again cause it was a new day phase. Mah bad.

Quote from: the_last_sheikah on December 07, 2012, 08:29:47 PMOops sorry, I meant to say day 2 will be relived.

So progress goes:
Night 1
Day 1
Day 2
Night 2
Day 2
Night 3
continues as normal.

Very... interesting...

I would like to ask the guardevoir holder to guard me, because I'm a likely wolf target.

sorry, can't update, on 3DS, will get first thing tomorrow, phase is over though.

Quote from: Waddle Bro on November 30, 2012, 04:11:46 PMNight 2: Grass starter holders vote for Pokemon they want to be revealed in the beginning of Day 2. Fire starter holders vote for the player they need to give a Brutal power. Water holders do not vote this phase. Instead they get psychic results in the beginning of Day 2 by PM.

The phase is over, but I'm reminding about this to avoid any confusion.

TWG XLIV: The Pokemon League
*Hosted by the_last_sheikah and Waddle Bro*

The game's universal effect: Items and Cardflip

The Rivals(Wolves):

1. Rival
2. Rival
3. Rival

The wolves don't know eachother.

The Trainers(Humans):

4. Trainer
5. Trainer
6. Trainer
7. Trainer
8. Trainer
9. Trainer
10. Trainer
11. Trainer (will be told that (s)he's green)
12. Trainer (will be told that (s)he's green)

1. Youngster BlackDragonSlayer
2. Artist K-NiGhT
3. Beauty Bubbles7689
4. Aroma Lady/Guy blueflower999
5. PI shadowkirby
6. Veteran Dude
7. The Fisherman Who Cried Wolf
8. Black Belt gzgregory
9. Cooltrainer Mashi
10. Ace Trainer spitllama P
11. Gentleman davy
12. PokéManiac Jub3r7 P

K-NiGhT was trapped in a whirlpool!  K-NiGhT fainted!
It is now Day 2.  Day 2 ends Tuesday 10 PM EST.(use this http://www.timeanddate.com/time/map/ to convert)

Shadowkirby has an Electrode!
Electrode used explosion! Davy is one vote away from an insta!

Well, shit. Hey this is my first time getting wolfed! Need to make a great death post...uh...

Go on without me...!

Yeah. Awesome. Go get 'em, guys.

Obviously, don't vote for davy. Whoever does will be deemed a wolf.

So according to the starter's powers for night 2, whoever has the grass starters voted for electrode to be revealed. Might I ask, why?

Quote from: Bubbles7689 on December 09, 2012, 10:41:28 AMSo according to the starter's powers for night 2, whoever has the grass starters voted for electrode to be revealed. Might I ask, why?

I haven't voted ONCE for the starter powers yet. :P

^Neither have I

So, who shall we vote for?

So hosts, if no one votes for the starter powers does that mean that its a KitB situation or does it just not happen?

Quote from: Bubbles7689 on December 09, 2012, 12:35:55 PMSo hosts, if no one votes for the starter powers does that mean that its a KitB situation or does it just not happen?

In that case, a KitB would occur.

Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on December 09, 2012, 11:42:40 AMI haven't voted ONCE for the starter powers yet. :P

Quote from: blueflower999 on December 09, 2012, 11:45:37 AM^Neither have I

Do you both have grass starters? By looking at the powers I think Night 2 grass would be the only one that would be confirmed, since it would be revealed publicly. If you dont want to reveal it to the thread you could pm me.

Since Electrode was the one who was revealed, I think it could have been a wolf who voted for it. Electrode is revealed upon death, while Weezing is kept secret. The only reason I can see of someone voting innocently for Electrode would be that they didnt want to accidently lynch the holder and create a 1 away from insta. That still isnt a good argument since Electrode's effects are easily avoided, and as spit said, whoever votes for davy will be deemed a wolf.

^ Unless there was a 72 way KitB and it somehow landed on the least effective Pokemon to reveal, but I really doubt that

Wrong. Electrode is revealed automatically, by default. I don't think the Pokemon reveal power was even used, however that works.

Quote from: gzgregory on December 09, 2012, 02:41:23 PMWrong. Electrode is revealed automatically, by default. I don't think the Pokemon reveal power was even used, however that works.

Shadowkirby has Electrode. That was the public Pokemon reveal. Electrode's effect activated because it's holder died.

Oh. I kind of thought it would be clear who used Electrode due to the fact that they had to be lynched last phase. Ah well.

Apparently there are three wolves left.

^I got that too. No idea where it came from though.

Quote from: Waddle Bro on December 09, 2012, 03:09:46 PMShadowkirby has Electrode. That was the public Pokemon reveal. Electrode's effect activated because it's holder died.

Waddle, I just want to make sure so Im not confused anymore. By default, Electrode would be revealed since the owner was lynched. Electrode's power makes it revealed when the owner is lynched. The grass starters night 2 power is a public Pokemon reveal. Was Electrode the only Pokemon revealed because it overruled the grass starter (so theres only 1 public pokemon reveal) or was the grass starter reveal Electrode, making Electrode technically being revealed twice?

^thats a yes or no question, since I understand theres some info that you cannot give out

Quote from: blueflower999 on December 09, 2012, 06:16:29 PM^I got that too. No idea where it came from though.

That means you have a water starter, which was its night 2 power

Quote from: Jub3r7 on December 09, 2012, 04:32:39 PMApparently there are three wolves left.

Well that's not too good...

Quote from: Bubbles7689 on December 09, 2012, 07:36:25 PMWaddle, I just want to make sure so Im not confused anymore. By default, Electrode would be revealed since the owner was lynched. Electrode's power makes it revealed when the owner is lynched. The grass starters night 2 power is a public Pokemon reveal. Was Electrode the only Pokemon revealed because it overruled the grass starter (so theres only 1 public pokemon reveal) or was the grass starter reveal Electrode, making Electrode technically being revealed twice?

Yes.

Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on December 09, 2012, 07:49:22 PMWell that's not too good...

Actually, that is pretty good. It means that we can be sure that Shadowkirby, K-Night and TBWCW were humans, which makes them exelent revival targets. Also, on an earlier page you said that, unless something with painting happened, that would mean I would be the MW. Can you explain that?

I suggest that in this and all following day phases, we do not only vote for a player to be lynched, but also underline a vote for a player to be vigi'd, because if our vigi's work together, the wolves won't gain the upper hand.

Finaly, I suggest taht at the beginning of the night, I'll post a name of a player to be public seer'd. Once again to prevend the wolves from gaining the upper hand.

Quote from: davy on December 10, 2012, 08:50:54 AMActually, that is pretty good. It means that we can be sure that Shadowkirby, K-Night and TBWCW were humans, which makes them exelent revival targets. Also, on an earlier page you said that, unless something with painting happened, that would mean I would be the MW. Can you explain that?

If one of you was painted (you and any of the dead players), then it would disguise your wolf color. However, if Jub and blueflower are to be trusted, that means that none of those other players were wolves, as you said.

I'll corroborate what Jub and blueflower said.

Quote from: gzgregory on December 10, 2012, 02:39:17 PMI'll corroborate what Jub and blueflower said.

Good; anybody else wishing to give credence... or are the rest of the water-starter-holders not-really-here?

Quote from: Waddle Bro on December 09, 2012, 08:51:04 PMYes.

Well. Then whoever has a starter grass pokemon needs to speak up :/

And this might just be paranioa, but I really dont think you should be claiming starters to the thread. Personally, starters are one of the biggest powers and are a target for wolfings. If a wolf sees that so-and-so has a water starter and is going to seer them, they would probably choose to wolf them

Quote from: Bubbles7689 on December 10, 2012, 04:47:02 PMWell. Then whoever has a starter grass pokemon needs to speak up :/

And this might just be paranioa, but I really dont think you should be claiming starters to the thread. Personally, starters are one of the biggest powers and are a target for wolfings. If a wolf sees that so-and-so has a water starter and is going to seer them, they would probably choose to wolf them

Wait a minute... you just said that grass-starter-owners should speak up... but then you said not to claim...

Also:
Jub3r7

If Jub, blueflower, and gzgregory are the only three people left with water starters, then there's something suspicious going on (e.g. they killed off the other water-starter-people to make themselves the only ones with the power). I don't want to be making rash judgements, but right now, nobody else has a really obvious chance of being a wolf...
Except maybe Mashi. :P But then again, maybe not...

Haha I meant to speak up privately, since whoever was the only person to vote for the public reveal didnt actually want to help the humans

And like I said before, its not a good judgement to vote for the people who claimed water starters just because no one else did, since they could be in fear of being wolfed. Plus idk how they would even know how to kill off the other water starters since starters arent exactly a public thing

Plus Im 99% positive that myself, TBWCW, K-night, and shadowkirby are humans, so thats a pretty big chunk out of the Trainers. If you're going to rely on claiming starters for humaness, that literally leaves Dude, Mashi and Spit as wolves.

Quote from: Bubbles7689 on December 10, 2012, 07:36:28 PMPlus Im 99% positive that myself, TBWCW, K-night, and shadowkirby are humans, so thats a pretty big chunk out of the Trainers. If you're going to rely on claiming starters for humaness, that literally leaves Dude, Mashi and Spit as wolves.

Basing Humans on who claimed their Starters is frivolous and you know it, Bubbles. :P
I understand that I've been inactive, but there's reasonable evidence towards my humanity; namely that I was wolfed and guarded myself in fear of being wolfed.  Although Wolves have wolfed themselves before, the difference in this game is that I possess a one time guard (Darmanatine) and a chance wolfing, so there's no guarantee for the success of a wolfing for my guard to even be useful.

However, I suppose I can't blame you for making a drastic deduction, considering hardly anything has occurred in the game.  I still can't say I understand whatever davy has been talking about with his alliance plan, frankly, and would like to get that cleared up.  I'm having trouble frequenting the chatroom, but I'll try to be in there as much as possible to discuss the game and interrogate people.  We need to settle for a lynch by tomorrow.  I'll probably be home by 7 or 8PM tomorrow (hopefully earlier).  So be prepared to have a speedy discussion by then to try to get something done!!!

Quote from: Bubbles7689 on December 10, 2012, 07:32:40 PMAnd like I said before, its not a good judgement to vote for the people who claimed water starters just because no one else did, since they could be in fear of being wolfed. Plus idk how they would even know how to kill off the other water starters since starters arent exactly a public thing

Wait what; that contradicts itself.
If they control the seerings, things can get deadly... fast...

Quote from: Bubbles7689 on December 10, 2012, 07:36:28 PMIf you're going to rely on claiming starters for humaness, that literally leaves Dude, Mashi and Spit as wolves.

Contradicts what you said above, and what I said...

BDS, what you just said honestly doesn't make any sense. None of the starter people knew each other, and besides, the odds of three wolves getting three of the water starters is really low. On top of that at least one of the water starter holders was lynched, not wolfed.

I think what Davy's said makes sense, but we need some sort of failsafe in case he's a wolf (for the seering portion of his plan in particular). Why don't we just vote for public seerings as well?

Quote from: Mashi on December 10, 2012, 09:25:08 PMI'll probably be home by 7 or 8PM tomorrow (hopefully earlier).  So be prepared to have a speedy discussion by then to try to get something done!!!

Just confirming that I won't be on by that time.

Quote from: gzgregory on December 11, 2012, 07:34:49 AMI think what Davy's said makes sense, but we need some sort of failsafe in case he's a wolf (for the seering portion of his plan in particular). Why don't we just vote for public seerings as well?

The reason why I preferred that I would decide who to be seer'd instead of a voting is because I have more information than any other human. I prefer not having to take the risk of having an alliance member seer'd, as I know that player's color already, and I don't feel like revealing an alliance member just for the sake of missing a seering. Additionaly, I can discuss the target with the alliance and at most one alliance member is a wolf, which means humans are always better represented in the alliance than the wolves.
However, if more players prefer having a voting for seering, than it's okay with me.

Dude and Mashi are currently of the players who seem the least human the least active. I put Mashi for vigi'ing because I think he'll be better able to make a good defense than Dude.

Ok I'll be lazy and give up.

But before I do, Davy, because you're not one of my partners.

Are you claiming wolf again -_-

...again?
When did I do it before? ???

I wasn't even expecting to live this long tbh.

クックックック

Quote from: Dude on December 11, 2012, 11:40:30 AM...again?
When did I do it before? ???

...  :-\

I-I-I-INSTA!!!
TWG XLIV: The Pokemon League
*Hosted by the_last_sheikah and Waddle Bro*

The game's universal effect: Items and Cardflip

The Rivals(Wolves):

1. Rival
2. Rival
3. Rival

The wolves don't know eachother.

The Trainers(Humans):

4. Trainer
5. Trainer
6. Trainer
7. Trainer
8. Trainer
9. Trainer
10. Trainer
11. Trainer (will be told that (s)he's green)
12. Trainer (will be told that (s)he's green)

1. Youngster BlackDragonSlayer
2. Artist K-NiGhT
3. Beauty Bubbles7689
4. Aroma Lady/Guy blueflower999
5. PI shadowkirby
6. Veteran Dude
7. The Fisherman Who Cried Wolf
8. Black Belt gzgregory
9. Cooltrainer Mashi
10. Ace Trainer spitllama P
11. Gentleman davy
12. PokéManiac Jub3r7 P

davy was hit by Guillotine!  davy was OHKO'd!!!!!
It is now Night 3.  Night 3 ends Wednesday 11 PM EST.(use this http://www.timeanddate.com/time/map/ to convert)

Quote from: the_last_sheikah on December 11, 2012, 02:05:31 PMI-I-I-INSTA!!!
TWG XLIV: The Pokemon League
*Hosted by the_last_sheikah and Waddle Bro*

The game's universal effect: Items and Cardflip

The Rivals(Wolves):

1. Rival
2. Rival
3. Rival

The wolves don't know eachother.

The Trainers(Humans):

4. Trainer
5. Trainer
6. Trainer
7. Trainer
8. Trainer
9. Trainer
10. Trainer
11. Trainer (will be told that (s)he's green)
12. Trainer (will be told that (s)he's green)

1. Youngster BlackDragonSlayer
2. Artist K-NiGhT
3. Beauty Bubbles7689
4. Aroma Lady/Guy blueflower999
5. PI shadowkirby
6. Veteran Dude
7. The Fisherman Who Cried Wolf
8. Black Belt gzgregory
9. Cooltrainer Mashi
10. Ace Trainer spitllama P
11. Gentleman davy
12. PokéManiac Jub3r7 P

davy was hit by Guillotine!  davy was OHKO'd!!!!!
It is now Night 3.  Night 3 ends Wednesday 11 PM EST.(use this http://www.timeanddate.com/time/map/ to convert)

Oh Dude...

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaargh.
Viging Dude is obvious.

Quote from: Dude on December 11, 2012, 08:49:47 AMyou're not one of my partners.

This is extremely worrying. Boy probably wasn't lying about having Slakoth, and is certainly human. I'm not certain about a Davy revival due to what Dude said, but maybe I'm just overthinking this.
Any suggestions for seerings?

Quote from: gzgregory on December 11, 2012, 03:02:36 PMAaaaaaaaaaaaaargh.
Viging Dude is obvious.This is extremely worrying. Boy probably wasn't lying about having Slakoth, and is certainly human. I'm not certain about a Davy revival due to what Dude said, but maybe I'm just overthinking this.
Any suggestions for seerings?

Revive: K-NiGhT
Vigi: Dude
Seer: Blueflower

Seem good? :P

gzgregory, I think you are overthinking it.  For whatever reason, Doodle felt that davy was Human, so he OHKO'd him.  I don't think a Wolf would make such an audacious move at the risk of losing a potential partner.

It's Night 3, so Grass Starters, use your power to revive davy.  I think that what occurred last Phase is proof enough that he's Human (even though he's a jerk for suggesting to vigi me even though there's clear evidence towards my humanity!!!).  As gzgregory stated, vigi Doodle.  In regard to the seering, I agree with the voting idea.  However, since davy is dead, we can't really do that, since the Wolves may wolf whomever we plan to seer, so for now, Blue Starters, I suggest discussing among yourselves whom you would like to seer.  That way, even if one of the Blue Starter holders is a Wolf, he/she may not be inclined to wolf who's seered in fear of being found out among the 3 Water Starters that have claimed.

Mind you all, also, I would suggest not purely trying to find Wolves by eliminating people you think are Humans and focusing in on inactives; it never works.  The Wolves are supposed to act Human, so naturally they would possibly be among the Players you believe are most Human.  Could an inactive person be a Wolf?  Of course.  Is it likely for all 3 to be inactive, however?  No.

Anyhow, I'll be in the chatroom now, as I said yesterday, so come in and ping me to discuss the game!

Oh, thinking it over, I would also be okay with a TheBoyWhoCriedWolf revive too (since he was one of the dead Players confirmed Human by the Psychic results).

I have used my Xatu to Seer Spitllama Green

What Phase did this occur in?

The day before this night phase. Xatu Seers during the day.

Quote from: Mashi on December 10, 2012, 09:25:08 PMBasing Humans on who claimed their Starters is frivolous and you know it, Bubbles. :P

Thats what I said :P I was telling BDS that

And yeah. Wow. Didnt Dude claim wolf earlier in the thread but then kinda not but then we just ignored it?

Quote from: Dude on December 06, 2012, 12:48:11 PM

Quote from: davy on December 06, 2012, 12:31:30 PMDay phase is going to end soon, and I don't want a phantom. So I'm going to placde my vote on Dude because he's not very active, which is the thing he usually does when he is a wolf (plus there's not much to go on anyway).

lolk Dude

This game is so insanely confusing I wouldn't do much for you guys anyway.

Sorry. I sucked this time. :-[

Or was that just me reading it wrong again

Quote from: Bubbles7689 on December 11, 2012, 07:08:39 PMAnd yeah. Wow. Didnt Dude claim wolf earlier in the thread but then kinda not but then we just ignored it?

Or was that just me reading it wrong again

It didn't seem like he was claiming; in fact, it seemed like he was saying that he wouldn't help the humans much.

So...
I suggest reviving TheBoyWhoCriedWolf and vigi'ing Doodle.

So the phase is over, but Waddle has yet to send me the updates list, so I will update this once I get them, so expect it around 8:30-ish EST.  Until then, just chill, talk among yourselves, I'll update as soon as I can.

Quote from: the_last_sheikah on December 12, 2012, 08:00:47 PMSo the phase is over, but Waddle has yet to send me the updates list, so I will update this once I get them, so expect it around 8:30-ish EST.  Until then, just chill, talk among yourselves, I'll update as soon as I can.

O_o

Sorry for sending in my PM late... my older brother has been on the computer all day...

Sorry, it's hard to try and wake up like 5 AM. I'll send that list to you in 15 min.

TWG XLIV: The Pokemon League
*Hosted by the_last_sheikah and Waddle Bro*

The game's universal effect: Items and Cardflip

The Rivals(Wolves):

1. Rival
2. Rival
3. Rival

The wolves don't know eachother.

The Trainers(Humans):

4. Trainer
5. Trainer
6. Trainer
7. Trainer
8. Trainer
9. Trainer
10. Trainer
11. Trainer (will be told that (s)he's green)
12. Trainer (will be told that (s)he's green)

1. Youngster BlackDragonSlayer
2. Artist K-NiGhT
3. Beauty Bubbles7689
4. Aroma Lady/Guy blueflower999
5. PI shadowkirby
6. Veteran Dude
7. The Fisherman Who Cried Wolf
8. Black Belt gzgregory
9. Cooltrainer Mashi
10. Ace Trainer spitllama
11. Gentleman davy
12. PokéManiac Jub3r7 P

Blueflower999 was hit by poison sting!  Blueflower999 fainted!!!!!
The Grass starters used a revive on K-NiGhT!  K-NiGhT is ALIVE!
KitB!! The Fire starters used Fire Blast on spitllama!  Spitllama fainted!
KitB!! The Water starters used Foresight on BlackDragonSlayer!
It is now Day 3.  Day 3 ends Saturday 10 PM EST.(use this http://www.timeanddate.com/time/map/ to convert)

goddamnit
Dude.

Holy crap this was a revealing phase :o

As for the wolf(ves) with the grass starter, screw you. Blue I don't know why you made my color public.

Oops meant fire

Safety on BDS

Quote from: the_last_sheikah on December 13, 2012, 05:41:41 AM1. Youngster BlackDragonSlayer

The Grass starters used a revive on K-NiGhT!  K-NiGhT is ALIVE!

KitB!! The Fire starters used Fire Blast on spitllama!  Spitllama fainted!

KitB!! The Water starters used Foresight on BlackDragonSlayer!

1: I voted for k-NiGhT to be revived; unless the other starters agreed with me, then I was the only one to vote.

2: Why did the fire starters vote to vigi spitllama instead of Dude? So we could lynch him??

3: I'm the miller again. I was joking at first, but now I'm doomed to forever be the miller. -_- :P

Wow... uh... why did you guys not vigi Dude? -_-

Have a good rest of the game.

Quote from: blueflower999 on December 13, 2012, 03:28:24 PMWow... uh... why did you guys not vigi Dude? -_-

Have a good rest of the game.

If we don't lynch Dude (if he IS a wolf), then we won't survive to even see the next night.
The fire starter-holders:
1: Are wolves themselves.
2: Thought spitllama was a wolf, or likely to be one, and left Dude to be lynched.

Both the fire and water were KitB's... so... either nobody voted for them (???), or there was a divide of sorts.

Random.org (cough or the hosts cough) has a sense of humor, I see.

Dude.

If Dude is a wolf, during the night phase, we'll have a chance to revive another nearly-confirmed human, which will allow us to get a step ahead of the wolves. Though, the fire starters' vigi might not help us very much...

I'm a bit iffy on BlackDragonSlayer now, but Doodle, since obvious lynch is obvious.
Green Starters, I still recommend TheBoyWhoCriedWolf.
Fire Starters, I would suggest not vigi'ing for now.  Especially with the recent vigi.

Quote from: Mashi on December 14, 2012, 01:53:16 PMI'm a bit iffy on BlackDragonSlayer now, but Doodle, since obvious lynch is obvious.
Green Starters, I still recommend TheBoyWhoCriedWolf.
Fire Starters, I would suggest not vigi'ing for now.  Especially with the recent vigi.

...
I was thinking shadowkirby, but I don't believe he was very active?? It might not be too good to revive Davy, just in case...
If the fire-starter-holders are wolves, they may not listen to you.

...
Boy had Slakoth, he's much more useful a revival than Shadowkirby is.
Mashi, I think we're going to be forced to vigi, otherwise any wolves with fire starters control the kill. Any ideas?

Quote from: gzgregory on December 14, 2012, 02:06:21 PM...
Boy had Slakoth, he's much more useful a revival than Shadowkirby is.
Mashi, I think we're going to be forced to vigi, otherwise any wolves with fire starters control the kill. Any ideas?

Are you 100% sure he had Slakoth (e.g. a Pokemon seering)? And read what I also mentioned...

Thoughts about Jub3r7?? Do you think he's likely to be a wolf? We need to discuss before we act!

Honestly, I think at this point you're most likely to be a wolf. I don't think Jub's a wolf, since he said he caught Smeargle with a pokeball, something I doubt he would say were he a wolf. Reviving KN was also an inexplicable move, plus you're red.

If Boy was human, he had no reason to lie about it.

Quote from: gzgregory on December 14, 2012, 02:12:18 PMHonestly, I think at this point you're most likely to be a wolf. I don't think Jub's a wolf, since he said he caught Smeargle with a pokeball, something I doubt he would say were he a wolf. Reviving KN was also an inexplicable move, plus you're red.

If Boy was human, he had no reason to lie about it.

Me? I clearly stated, on page 20, that I had intentions to revive k-NiGhT, since he was one of the people confirmed by the water-starter-holders as not being a wolf (quite an explicable reason for a human, unless YOU are a wolf, but it's not good to go randomly pointing fingers); if I were a wolf, I would be more likely to revive someone like Davy, for example.
Also remember that, if I'm not the only grass-starter-holder still alive, more people agreed with me to revive k-NiGhT; if I am the only one left alive, and I'm lynched/wolfed, then we're in trouble. :P

You are the one who asked who the fire-starter-holders should vigi; I did not say that Jub should be (as in, guarenteed): I merely wanted to prompt a discussion to lead to a decision (that wouldn't be a foolish one), which everybody else seems to be partially afraid of...

I don't doubt that Boy was a human, but it doesn't entirely guarentee that every word he said was entirely honest; although saying that he had Slakoth would've been more likely to put him as a wolf target.

This was asked from me so I answer it in front of everyone because it contains information that players most likely don't know.

The player holding Chimecho is allowed to use Chimecho on an alive player(including him(/her)self). If it's used to an already alive player, and that player gets lynched on the Day or wolfed on Night, (s)he will be revived on the beginning of the next Day Phase. If it's used on an already alive player and that player won't die, Chimecho will be wasted and it will faint.

Will it be revealed that the person was revived through Chimecho, like how you identified the starters powers?

Yes.

Oops didnt mean to hit post

I think we should either revive Boy or shadowkirby, but not davy just yet. BDS you seem human, but we have no proof that you have a grass starter. Were positive that there were three wolves alive as of whenever it was revealed (too lazy to look back :P), so that means the three people that were dead then were confirmed human (unless theres some other power Im forgetting about).

As much as I trust davy I would like to get our humans back before potentially reviving a master wolf

Quote from: Bubbles7689 on December 14, 2012, 03:22:06 PMwhenever it was revealed (too lazy to look back :P)

Psychic results were told to the players holding water starters in the beginning of Day 3.

Quote from: Bubbles7689 on December 14, 2012, 03:22:06 PMOops didnt mean to hit post

I think we should either revive Boy or shadowkirby, but not davy just yet. BDS you seem human, but we have no proof that you have a grass starter. Were positive that there were three wolves alive as of whenever it was revealed (too lazy to look back :P), so that means the three people that were dead then were confirmed human (unless theres some other power Im forgetting about).

As much as I trust davy I would like to get our humans back before potentially reviving a master wolf

1: I claimed Turtwig to Davy (which, though, might not matter, because of your final statement).
2: I have made it at least somewhat clear previously, especially in chat, that I have a starter.
3: I was the one who suggested reviving k-NiGhT, which "came to pass." :P As I mentioned, it's possible that either I'm the only grass-starter-holder left, or the others agree with me. :P
4: I agreed that we should revive them; currently, it's just a matter of who to revive first.

Also, who should the water-starter-holders seer?

One of the people who havent been seered already :P Theres literally 4, one of which is me. Just a warning though, since there are 4 people who are un-seered and 4 roles that come up as red, the seer is probably going to be red. BDS, your the only one who is red so far, and unless Im the miller Mashi, gregory and Dude are red

Im really hoping that dude is the master wolf. If he is, the humans have basically won (unless we screw up big time)

Quote from: Bubbles7689 on December 14, 2012, 06:43:14 PMBDS, your the only one who is red so far, and unless Im the miller Mashi, gregory and Dude are red

Im really hoping that dude is the master wolf. If he is, the humans have basically won (unless we screw up big time)

Two choices to seer tonight:
1: Mashi
2: Bubbles :P

That would mean that gzgregory and Jub3r7 wouldn't be seered... and actually, the Mashi/Dude/Gz was one of the combinations I was thinking of (in addition to Jub/Gz/Dude or spitllama/someone else/ someone else)... :P

Go ahead and seer me, but it wont help :P

I suggest Mashi, since everyone's seems to be positive that gzgregory and jub are wolves

Quote from: Bubbles7689 on December 14, 2012, 07:04:20 PMGo ahead and seer me, but it wont help :P

I suggest Mashi, since everyone's seems to be positive that gzgregory and jub are wolves

I've said that about me all the time; I know I'll be the miller. :P Even if there is no miller. :P Unless Jub is a wolf and painted me red...

Don't discuss the seering; if the Wolves wolf who's being seered, the seering serves no purpose.  Blues, seer whomever you want, but don't be predictable.
And Bubbles, what are you talking about?  No one is positive about gzgregory or Jub3r7 being Wolves.

At the moment, I'm thinking Bubbles, BlackDragonSlayer, and Doodle are the Wolves.
Bubbles, because her suspicions are off point and she's expressing timidity towards being seered (passing it off as not helping, implying that two Players (one of whom appears quite human and another who is inactive) are agreed through consensus of being Wolves when no such thing exists whatsoever).
BlackDragonSlayer, because of his weariness towards false claiming to Doodle two days ago.  He insisted on not false claiming out of paranoia of Doodle outing him or something.  He had an uncharacteristic desire to stay alive (as in, he had more caution than he should have).  I originally thought that he was simply being himself, but I'm beginning to have doubts on that and feel that he's a Wolf instead.
Doodle is obvious.

Here's the log:

19:19      *** Vera joined #TWGNSM
19:36      *** ETFROXX joined #TWGNSM
19:47      *** Vera is now known as Vera|BRB
20:20      *** BlackDragonSlayer joined #TWGNSM
20:20   BlackDragonSlayer   Why do I always have such a hard time finding this chat...
20:20   BlackDragonSlayer   It never appears unless 2+ people join it... or if I always have a link...
20:21      *** ETFROXX quit (Ping timeout)
20:22   BlackDragonSlayer   Vera|BRB... I see you... oh... BRB...
20:31   Vera|BRB   Yaaay.
20:31      *** Vera|BRB is now known as Vera
20:31   Vera   Sorry for being so long.
20:32   Vera   So suspicions.
20:32   Vera   Discuss.
20:32   BlackDragonSlayer   Yaaay
20:35   BlackDragonSlayer   Revive whom?
20:35   BlackDragonSlayer   I think it might be a little risky to revive Davy, since there's still a chance he might be a wolf??
20:36   BlackDragonSlayer   Apparantly, shadowkirby must have thought Davy was a wolf... or Electrode was redirected...
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20:37   Vera   Hmm.
20:37   Vera   I'm still leaning that he's Human, but I understand why you would be a bit concerned.
20:37   Vera   If that's the case then, I would support a TheBoyWhoCriedWolf revival.
20:38   Vera   I feel that he was lynched unfairly anyway, to be honest.
20:38   Vera   Well, shadowkirby too, but he's always inactive, so...!
20:39   BlackDragonSlayer   Boy might be a little bitter, since I was one of the people who was "leading" the lynch... he might, in the worst possible case, want to get me lynched, or...
20:39   BlackDragonSlayer   ...use his Pokemon on me.
20:39   BlackDragonSlayer   Just a thought.
20:40   Vera   He's a confirmed Human, however, so you should take one for the team!!!
20:40   Vera   I doubt he'll lead a lynch against you though, anyhow.
20:41   Vera   But if we're leading a lynch on anyone, it would be after a long discussion.
20:41   BlackDragonSlayer   I have Froslass... so... who do you think will use a Pokemon tonight?
20:42   BlackDragonSlayer   He could easily say that the fact that I was so "passionately" leading a lynch against a nearly-confirmed human (at least in some opinions), but that's just speculation.
20:42   Vera   He wasn't really nearly confirmed at the time.
20:42   BlackDragonSlayer   Back to the discussion...
20:42   Vera   So I'm sure you're fine.
20:43   BlackDragonSlayer   Depending on what Pokemon he has, he might prove helpful...]
20:43   BlackDragonSlayer   But he could try something else similar to last time...
20:44   Vera   Hmm.
20:44   BlackDragonSlayer   The idea with the water starter holders you had was a good idea; I just fear that the wolves (if they have water starters) won't fall for it so easily.
20:45   Vera   I'm sure they'll oblige to it out of fear of being caught still.
20:45   Vera   I think we should all claim to Doodle now, anyhow.
20:45   BlackDragonSlayer   If all three wolves are still alive... then... only two more people need to be lynched/wolfed.
20:45   Vera   So he can't unite the Wolves.
20:46   BlackDragonSlayer   ...like I tried to do last game, except I wasn't a wolf...
20:46   BlackDragonSlayer   But the wolves may be the only ones NOT to claim, or may be the only ones who claim human.
20:46   BlackDragonSlayer   If he IS a wolf, he won't spill the beans so easily.
20:47   Vera   I feel that you're overthinking it, frankly.
20:47   BlackDragonSlayer   It would be ironic if both Davy and Dude are wolves... wouldn't it...
20:48   BlackDragonSlayer   I think it's always good to think of more than one possibility.
20:48   BlackDragonSlayer   Especially in a case like this.
20:48   Vera   lol
20:49   Vera   Ahhh, I suppose I understand, since you're that type of person.
20:49   BlackDragonSlayer   Despite the fact that the wolves don't know each other, there are still plenty of ways they could find each other...
20:49   BlackDragonSlayer   This isn't like examining a house or garden for evidence, soooo...
20:49   Vera   What ways?
20:49   Vera   
20:50   Vera   I still feel that there's evidence like that for me though!!!
20:50   BlackDragonSlayer   Seerings, Pokemon that identify the owner of the "opposite" Pokemon...
20:50   Vera   How does the latter help?
20:50   BlackDragonSlayer   Now; I wonder who has the Brutal Power, or if that effect was even activated.
20:51   BlackDragonSlayer   "if the player who's holding Braviary founds out who has the Mandibuzz, he/she will find out that player's color. One-time use."
20:51   Vera   I never understood this, but did davy know who had all the Starters?
20:51   Vera   Ohhh.
20:51   BlackDragonSlayer   For example.
20:51   Vera   All right then, my mistake.
20:51   Vera   As you can see, I've been slacking!!!
20:51   BlackDragonSlayer   Davy, I presume, only knew the people that claimed (me being one of them...).
20:52   BlackDragonSlayer   However, we don't know the other Pokemon he had, so we can't guarentee anything further than that.
20:52   BlackDragonSlayer   I wonder if anybody has traded; that could tell us more information.
20:53   BlackDragonSlayer   Such as what Pokemon they got, and WHY they might need it, etc...
20:54   BlackDragonSlayer   If the wolves have the fire starters, then the game will be over real soon.........
20:54   Vera   I claimed Rival to Doodle.
20:55   BlackDragonSlayer   blueflower: "I have used my Xatu to Seer Spitllama Green"
20:55   BlackDragonSlayer   Can we trust blueflower...
20:55   BlackDragonSlayer   I'll claim human... just to throw him off track.
20:55   Vera   Hmm?
20:56   BlackDragonSlayer   If I claim human to Dude, then it will only confuse him more, won't it?
20:56   Vera   He might think you're poking fun at him, if anything.
20:57   BlackDragonSlayer   :S Better not claim at all, then.
20:57   Vera   Claim Wolf to throw off other claims though!!!
20:58   BlackDragonSlayer   ...might not be too good of an idea; Dude might turn the tables and "reveal" that we're wolves.
20:59   Vera   You're too paranoid, I feel.
21:00   Vera   Even if he does, we have this conversation.
21:00   Vera   To prove that we were false claiming.
21:01   BlackDragonSlayer   It's better to be cautious and not regret anything later, than to throw caution to the wind and end up feeling the pain...
21:01   Vera   It's also better to not qualify everything, because you'll end up nowhere by doing so!!!
21:02   BlackDragonSlayer   But we wouldn't be getting any further...
21:02   Vera   Yes, we would.
21:02   Vera   Chances are that, if we're smart, we'll make more good decisions than bad ones.
21:02   Vera   And therefore make progress.
21:03   Vera   I realise that it's important to recognise possible errors that may be made.
21:03   BlackDragonSlayer   We wouldn't learn anything by just ME claiming...
21:03   Vera   But if those errors are improbable.
21:03   Vera   Then the good will override the bad.
21:04   Vera   And it's not about learning anything right now, it's about taking a precaution against uniting the Wolves.
21:04   BlackDragonSlayer   But that won't further our goal; it might detract. If only two people at the current moment are claiming (you and I), we risk being "exposed" by someone else...
21:05   BlackDragonSlayer   ...who has a greater chance of actually being a wolf.
21:05   BlackDragonSlayer   Which would lead to, essentially, a swift end.
21:05   Vera   We have this conversation.
21:05   Vera   To prove that we were false claiming.
21:05   Vera   You're being too paranoid.
21:06   Vera   It's not pivotal to do so, so forget it then, I suppose.
21:06   BlackDragonSlayer   But how would it get us any more information; it's...
21:06   BlackDragonSlayer   FRIVOLOUS
21:06   Vera   A+++++++++
21:06   Vera   Well, anyhow.
21:06   Vera   Suspicions???
21:07   BlackDragonSlayer   Aside from Dude, in this order:
21:07   BlackDragonSlayer   Most wolf-like to least:
21:07   BlackDragonSlayer   Uh, well... this is difficult...
21:07   Vera   lol
21:08   BlackDragonSlayer   Jub3r7
21:08   Vera   Why's that?
21:08   BlackDragonSlayer   gzgregory
21:08   BlackDragonSlayer   Stumped... nobody else has any significant reasons why they could be wolves, unless I was being paranoid.
21:09   BlackDragonSlayer   But alas... fruitless search...
21:09   Vera   
21:09   BlackDragonSlayer   I could say that blueflower and spitllama are the other two wolves...
21:09   Vera   I'm sort of suspicious of gzgregory.
21:10   BlackDragonSlayer   But, using that same logic, I could say that Jub and gzg are the wolves!!
21:10   Vera   Because of his playing style.
21:10   Vera   Though, it could be attributed to his playing of Mafia.
21:10   BlackDragonSlayer   Well, I must go now; dinner awaits.
21:10   BlackDragonSlayer   10... 9... 8...
21:10   BlackDragonSlayer   7... 6... 5...
21:10   Vera   
21:10   BlackDragonSlayer   4... 3... 2...
21:10   BlackDragonSlayer   1
21:10   Vera   Bye!
21:10      *** BlackDragonSlayer quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)

The thing I hate the most about TWG is defending myself when Im human, because I never know what to say. When Im a wolf Im always so cautious and look at every little detail, so I can find something to defend myself. :P

Ive been assuming that people thought that Jub and gzgregory were human, but thats probably because I've been checking this late at night and quickly skimming over since Ive been extremely busy this week, but that might've been just BDS saying it over and over.

I dont think Im being 'timid' towards being seered, I just said that it would be a waste of one. You can seer me if you want, but it wont help the humans

Oh and I forgot Dude

Bleh. Double post

Considering the end of the next night phase, there will be almost everyone seered. Dude will be lynched, showing his color. Someone will be wolfed, and unless its BDS (highly unlikely) or K-night, their color will be revealed. The vigi, again, will reveal another color, as well as the water seering. Since the water is the only one that is (almost) confirmed to be someone who hasnt been seered, this means that almost everyone will be seered.

I was going somewhere with that but I completely forgot where XD

And Mashi you cant prevent a vigi unless you coordinate it with a wolfing (which isnt going to happen), since if no one votes it acts like a KitB between every player

Quote from: Bubbles7689 on December 14, 2012, 07:04:20 PMsince everyone's seems to be positive that gzgregory and jub are wolves

Quote from: Bubbles7689 on December 14, 2012, 08:48:12 PMIve been assuming that people thought that Jub and gzgregory were human

???

This is what I mean by inconsistent.

Quote from: Bubbles7689 on December 14, 2012, 07:04:20 PMI suggest Mashi, since everyone's seems to be positive that gzgregory and jub are wolves

That wasnt me saying I was positive, that was me giving in to people thinking they were human, but apparently they werent. Its read like "everyone seems to be sooo positive" but I didnt want to be that snotty

Quote from: Mashi on December 14, 2012, 08:06:00 PMDon't discuss the seering; if the Wolves wolf who's being seered, the seering serves no purpose.  Blues, seer whomever you want, but don't be predictable.
And Bubbles, what are you talking about?  No one is positive about gzgregory or Jub3r7 being Wolves.

At the moment, I'm thinking Bubbles, BlackDragonSlayer, and Doodle are the Wolves.
Bubbles, because her suspicions are off point and she's expressing timidity towards being seered (passing it off as not helping, implying that two Players (one of whom appears quite human and another who is inactive) are agreed through consensus of being Wolves when no such thing exists whatsoever).
BlackDragonSlayer, because of his weariness towards false claiming to Doodle two days ago.  He insisted on not false claiming out of paranoia of Doodle outing him or something.  He had an uncharacteristic desire to stay alive (as in, he had more caution than he should have).  I originally thought that he was simply being himself, but I'm beginning to have doubts on that and feel that he's a Wolf instead.
Doodle is obvious.

Here's the log:
(long log)

...the "blue power" last night was a KitB: that could mean that there's a wolf with a water starter, or simply not enough discussion among the holders (via PM).

Being cautious is not the same as being paranoid, nor does being cautious automatically make somebody a wolf (unless circumstances change the situation). One of the reasons (one, not all) why I was being "careful" is because of a reason you may have read in one of my earlier posts: if I'm the only grass holder left, that would mean no revives for the humans if I were wolfed by Dude/lynched by the the humans. Throwing caution to the wind by claiming to a nearly-confirmed (or entirely?) wolf would not makes sense, lest he turn the tables on you, unless you were a wolf yourself.
It seems as if my most convoluted reasons aren't simple enough, and my simplest reasons are not complicated enough... :S


Bubbles has been "inconsistent," and I even have reasons to suspect her, but that could be a result of human (as in, error committed by all humans) error.

Graah Im not being inconsistant I just cant word sentences right

But isnt the point of TWG to constantly change your opinions to help you interpret the game correctly? (Im still not saying Im being inconsistant, but idk how being inconsistant makes you a wolf)

I-I-I-INSTA!!!

TWG XLIV: The Pokemon League
*Hosted by the_last_sheikah and Waddle Bro*

The game's universal effect: Items and Cardflip

The Rivals(Wolves):

1. Rival
2. Rival
3. Rival

The wolves don't know eachother.

The Trainers(Humans):

4. Trainer
5. Trainer
6. Trainer
7. Trainer
8. Trainer
9. Trainer
10. Trainer
11. Trainer (will be told that (s)he's green)
12. Trainer (will be told that (s)he's green)

1. Youngster BlackDragonSlayer
2. Artist K-NiGhT
3. Beauty Bubbles7689
4. Aroma Lady/Guy blueflower999
5. PI shadowkirby
6. Veteran Dude
7. The Fisherman Who Cried Wolf
8. Black Belt gzgregory
9. Cooltrainer Mashi
10. Ace Trainer spitllama
11. Gentleman davy
12. PokéManiac Jub3r7 P

Dude was struck by Fissure!  Dude fainted!!!!!
Dude used Destiny Bond!  Dude took K-NiGhT with him!  K-NiGhT fainted!
It is now Night 4.  Night 4 ends Sunday 10 PM EST.(use this http://www.timeanddate.com/time/map/ to convert)

Quote from: the_last_sheikah on December 15, 2012, 05:54:15 PMDude was struck by Fissure!  Dude fainted!!!!!
Dude used Destiny Bond!  Dude took K-NiGhT with him!  K-NiGhT fainted!
It is now Night 4.  Night 4 ends Sunday 10 PM EST.(use this http://www.timeanddate.com/time/map/ to convert)

T_T

Oh Dude...
k-NiGhT or Boy? :P Or can you not revive the same person over again?

I should've seen that coming -.-

Lets just revive Boy, though I do feel bad for K-night

I'll do it early this time, so I won't have to worry whether it's counted or not.

I'm confused.  What happened?

And yes, revive TheBoyWhoCriedWolf.

Quote from: Mashi on December 15, 2012, 07:32:14 PMI'm confused.  What happened?

And yes, revive TheBoyWhoCriedWolf.

"Dude was struck by Fissure!  Dude fainted!!!!!"
And apparantly, he took k-NiGhT with him.  :'(

Done: if all goes well, then he should be the one revived... if there's another grass-starter-holder, and he/she doesn't agree, then there might be a KitB. :P

I was more concerned with how. :P

God damn it. I was actually going to be active starting after I got home from work.

I just read the Pokemon through twice, and I dont see any Pokemon with a brutal power. Mashi's right, how?

*facepalm*

Ok so I guess Dude had a fire starter

Ohhh, riiight.  I completely forgot about that.  Whoops.

The Fire Starters will also have to vigi this Phase, so we'll need to decide on a vigi target as well.
I'm still going on BlackDragonSlayer, unless a better alternative comes up.

I didnt consider this when I sent in my pm for my team, but the wolves probably jumped all over the fire starters. Since Dude had one of them, its likely the others do too, so I doubt BDS is going to be vigi'd

Quote from: Bubbles7689 on December 15, 2012, 07:39:57 PMOk so I guess Dude had a fire starter

And gave himself brutal powers.

If you vigi me, whether you trust me or not, if I am a human like I say, then that will be enough to end the game. With a wolf victory. ...

Since I, for obvious reasons, trust myself (:P), that leaves four people, at most two of whom could be wolves.
...and it seems as if Mashi has a Murkrow... :P :P

That would be because I do.  Guess who I'm using it on!!!

Quote from: Mashi on December 15, 2012, 08:25:13 PMThat would be because I do.  Guess who I'm using it on!!!

Yes, I know; I used Azumarill (one use left! :o).

Quote from: Mashi on December 16, 2012, 11:29:43 AMSo the plan is vigi BlackDragonSlayer, wolf Bubbles7689.
Sound good???

Uh, what?

I sent this to Jub3r7 beforehand:

[2:29:57 PM] Daniel Bhatti: Going to send a fake PM to gzgregory.
[2:30:05 PM] Daniel Bhatti: Because I think he's a wuff.
[2:30:18 PM] Daniel Bhatti: "So the plan is vigi BlackDragonSlayer, wolf Bubbles7689.
Sound good???"
[2:30:22 PM] Daniel Bhatti: And see how he responds!!!

Reason being because of all of this:
This message has been removed.
[12:16:35 AM | Removed 12:20:43 AM] Jub: This message has been removed.
[12:16:51 AM | Removed 12:20:51 AM] Jub: This message has been removed.
[12:20:25 AM] Jub: oh wait am I alive
[12:21:29 AM] Jub: I think so
[12:21:39 AM] Jub: anyways deleted messages are about a dead guy asking if I was a wolf
[12:22:02 AM] Jub: And I was like "nup"
[12:22:10 AM] Jub: But I'm pretty sure that guy was a wolf
[12:45:24 AM] Daniel Bhatti: did you check the timing of the message
[12:45:53 AM] Daniel Bhatti: If it were before the Phase ended, you didn't need to delete it. :P
[12:45:53 AM] Jub: I'll do that now
[12:46:17 AM] Jub: (No subject)
« Sent to: Jub3r7 on: December 15, 2012, 08:49:53 PM »
[12:46:39 AM] Jub: Also, if it was after the phase, this never happened!!!
[12:46:45 AM] Jub: Because I don't want doodle to be in trouble
[12:46:50 AM] Daniel Bhatti: It was before.
[12:46:51 AM] Daniel Bhatti: :P
[12:47:12 AM] Daniel Bhatti: It was cute and responsible of you to pay attention to his being dead though.
[12:47:37 AM] Daniel Bhatti: But did you read the message!?!
[12:47:42 AM] Jub: Yes
[12:47:59 AM] Jub: I didn't know if he was dead or not when I received your message and started telling you that he messaged me
[12:48:20 AM | Edited 12:48:24 AM] Jub: b:
[12:48:51 AM] Daniel Bhatti: Ohhh, so you didn't delete it yet.
[12:49:45 AM] Jub: Oh
[12:49:52 AM] Jub: I meant deleted messages above
[12:49:55 AM] Jub: on skype chat just now
[12:50:02 AM] Daniel Bhatti: Oh, my mistake then!
[12:50:12 AM] Jub: "So I'm thinking you're the master wolf and BDS is one of the red rivals.

Am I close at all?"
[12:50:39 AM] Jub: I was thinking BDS too but I'm fairly certain that I'm not a wolf
[12:51:29 AM] Daniel Bhatti: :O
[12:51:33 AM] Daniel Bhatti: Yaaaaay.
[12:51:57 AM] Jub: hbu
[12:52:13 AM] Daniel Bhatti: I thought he was a Wolf as well.
[12:52:14 AM] Jub: I think you're human
[12:52:25 AM] Daniel Bhatti: :O
[12:52:28 AM] Daniel Bhatti: y???
[12:53:46 AM] Jub: because sometime during phase 2 you were like "wait wolves don't know each other?"
[12:54:10 AM] Daniel Bhatti: Oh yeah.
[12:54:19 AM] Daniel Bhatti: Too bad the other Players don't agree!!!
[12:55:35 AM] Jub: What
[12:55:40 AM] Jub: Do they think you are a wolf
[12:55:52 AM] Daniel Bhatti: They think I'm suspicious.
[12:55:58 AM] Daniel Bhatti: Or some of them, rather.
[12:56:38 AM] Jub: tell them that if they think you are a wolf, then they are obviously wolves because you are obviously human and they are trying to frame you
[12:56:50 AM] Jub: and be very serious about it
[12:57:01 AM] Daniel Bhatti: :O
[12:57:07 AM] Daniel Bhatti: I sort of did that, hahaha.
[12:58:34 AM] Jub: Anyways, I have five days to save the world
[12:58:47 AM] Jub: I am just waiting for a phone call. Until then, I will be preparing!!!!
[12:58:50 AM] Daniel Bhatti: :O
[12:58:56 AM] Daniel Bhatti: Phone call from whom???
[12:59:00 AM] Daniel Bhatti: Wait.
[12:59:03 AM] Daniel Bhatti: Let me log on.
[12:59:07 AM] Daniel Bhatti: Into my other Skype!!!
[12:59:10 AM] Jub: o ok
[2:29:57 PM] Daniel Bhatti: Going to send a fake PM to gzgregory.
[2:30:05 PM] Daniel Bhatti: Because I think he's a wuff.
[2:30:18 PM] Daniel Bhatti: "So the plan is vigi BlackDragonSlayer, wolf Bubbles7689.
Sound good???"
[2:30:22 PM] Daniel Bhatti: And see how he responds!!!

No wolfing please :D

But mashi why would you try to trick gzgregory into thinking you were wolf partners by saying to vigi BDS? Would'nt a wolf go for the unsuspected, someone who seems human?

Quote from: gzgregory on December 16, 2012, 01:25:30 PMUh, what?

Where did Mashi say that? :S (nevermind, ninja'd)

Since I know I'm not a wolf, I can more easily discern through facts; unless I'm that much of a threat, the wolves won't bother to wolf me (as demonstrated in previous games, when I was much more valuable as someone to frame as a wolf). Either way, unless there's only one wolf left by the phase's end, we might not have much chance otherwise.

I notice, Mashi, that you tend to be taking risks that could end up "exposing" (depending on whether you ARE a wolf or not) you as a wolf, both with Dude and gzgregory. I have a feeling that you didn't just claim to Dude...
If Dude had a fire starter, and one human still has a fire starter, then, if you plan doesn't work, which is/was not likely, then they might see you as the wolf, and (again, depending on circumstance of if/is) seek to vigi you.

Sorry if the above has been too confusing. :P

If Dude had a Fire Starter, I would have traded a random Pokemon with him to receive it.
And gzgregory had no reason to believe I was a Wolf as far as I was aware.  But since he's the only person with a Fire Starter left, I felt obligated to make sure he was Human so that he wouldn't be a Wolf and vigi a random Human and possibly win.
I said to vigi BlackDragonSlayer to lead him to believe that the 3 Wolves were me, him, and Doodle (under the presumption that he himself was a Wolf, meaning that BlackDragonSlayer was Human).  I had to name BlackDragonSlayer to give him a chance to prove his humanity, since it gives him a chance to evaluate what just happened and post in the thread quickly after receiving the PM.

And really, if you people are having doubts on my being Human, take notice to how I was wolfed Night 1, didn't realise the Wolves knew each other in the beginning of the game, and how I'm actually trying to help (albeit through complicated methods, but that's my style!).

Quote from: Mashi on December 16, 2012, 01:50:16 PMAnd really, if you people are having doubts on my being Human, take notice to how I was wolfed Night 1, didn't realise the Wolves knew each other in the beginning of the game, and how I'm actually trying to help (albeit through complicated methods, but that's my style!).

If I'm not a wolf, and gzgregory isn't a wolf, and you're not a wolf, then it means that Bubbles and Jub are wolves, unless davy was the Master Wolf.
But wouldn't that be what a wolf would want us to think?? :P You could be trying to confuse us (by making yourself seem innocent and pushing us off into another direction); catch us off track by wondering if the wolves know each other.

Use logic.
It's rather clear that I'm Human.  Instead of over-analysing my actions, accept them as aid to the Human Team.  If there's a 1/35893593489534th chance of something happening, you can usually presume it's not happening.

Actually it's 1/52393693439434th chance of something happening.

You're welcome.

Darn, my plan of reducing probability has been foiled!!!

Quote from: Mashi on December 16, 2012, 02:01:24 PMUse logic.
It's rather clear that I'm Human.  Instead of over-analysing my actions, accept them as aid to the Human Team.  If there's a 1/35893593489534th chance of something happening, you can usually presume it's not happening.

But that is not the chance, given that there are only four people, aside from myself, left. Blindly stumbling around is not an efficient mode of transportation, so to say.

If you want to follow most likely probability, we would be vigi/lynching you for your Red colour. :P

Bubbles, BlackDragonSlayer, come to the chat!!!

Quote from: Mashi on December 16, 2012, 02:09:09 PMIf you want to follow most likely probability, we would be vigi/lynching you for your Red colour. :P

Incorrect; as I have said, and backed up by numerous reasons, unless I was painted (making Jub a wolf?), then I'm the miller. :P

Milotic, Salamence and Metagross do not work on fainted Pokemon. If they're used on a fainted Pokemon, it will fail.

17:20      *** BlackDragonSlayer joined #TWGNSM
17:20   Vera   Yaaay.
17:20   BlackDragonSlayer   ...
17:20   waddle   Hello.
17:21   BlackDragonSlayer   Hey waddle.
17:21   BlackDragonSlayer   I wonder if Bubbles is coming...
17:21   waddle   Mashi can you give me an OP?
17:21      +++ Vera has given op to waddle
17:21   waddle   I'm bored.
17:21   waddle   yaay
17:21   Vera   So BlackDragonSlayer.
17:21   BlackDragonSlayer   Want me to write a basic creepypasta?
17:21   Vera   What evidence is there of your humanity!?!?!
17:21   Vera   Not now, time is of the essence!!!
17:21   BlackDragonSlayer   1: In every game but one, I have been the miller.
New rule: Mashi is going to win even if he loses
Topic set by waddle on Sun Dec 16 2012 17:22:00 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
17:22   waddle   
17:22   BlackDragonSlayer   2: I have a grass starter, and I'm willing to help the humans.
17:22   BlackDragonSlayer   3: I'm suspicious of people for logical reasons.
17:22   Vera   ilu2 waddle
17:22   Vera   Like your suspicion of me?
17:22   BlackDragonSlayer   As in, I don't just make up convoluted things with no basis in fact.
17:23   BlackDragonSlayer   Yes; one can learn much from chats...
17:23   BlackDragonSlayer   ...like how you released that chat log to try and frame me as a wolf...
17:23   BlackDragonSlayer   ...or how you claimed to Dude with no hesitation, or what you just did with gzgregory (the latter actually makes more sense)...
17:23   Vera   Huh.
17:24   Vera   Oh, that.
17:24   Vera   You're ignoring that I was sort of wolfed Night 1.
17:24   BlackDragonSlayer   Wolves don't know each other.
17:24   Vera   And that I didn't realise that the Wolves knew each other.
17:24   Vera   I realise that now!
17:24   Vera   And that I sort of just confirmed gzgregory to be Human!
17:25   BlackDragonSlayer   Although I'd agree with you, given the circumstance, you could be 'in cohorts' with him, if he's a wolf.
17:25   BlackDragonSlayer   There are reasons, currently, where anyone could be a wolf. O
17:26   BlackDragonSlayer   For example:
17:26   waddle   O?
17:26   BlackDragonSlayer   O is right next to P
17:26   waddle   ohhhhhhh
17:26   waddle   still don't get it
17:26   BlackDragonSlayer   Jub: Has Smeargle; could easily use it to paint wolves; has been a little suspicious.
17:26   Vera   He accidentally hit both keys.
17:27   BlackDragonSlayer   Mashi: *reasons above*
17:27   Vera   Your reasons are dumb!
17:27   Vera   There's more evidence pointing towards you being a Wolf.
17:27   BlackDragonSlayer   In your opinion...
17:27   BlackDragonSlayer   Not quite, unless you factor in bias.
17:27   Vera   If we took an objective approach.
17:27   Vera   We would focus on probability.
17:28   Vera   And it's not in your favour.
17:28   Vera   Whereas it's much in my favour.
17:28   BlackDragonSlayer   Since I was the first person revealed as red, there will be an obvious bias toward people thinking I'm a wolf.
17:28   waddle   duh
17:28   Vera   That's what I'm saying!
17:28   BlackDragonSlayer   If, let's say, Bubbles was the first person revealed as red, I might not be as suspicious.
17:28   Vera   Probability is higher.
17:28   Vera   I would be suspicious!
17:29   BlackDragonSlayer   Not in this case, given the circumstances deciding the factors.
17:29   Vera   You're really making me especially suspicious of you and Bubbles.
17:29   BlackDragonSlayer   I am suspicious of Bubbles as well... but the same with everyone else... ;|
17:29   BlackDragonSlayer   :|
17:30   waddle   best strategy evr
17:30   Vera   i no rite
17:30   Vera   totes gona win!!!
17:30   waddle   be suspicious of everyone
17:30   Vera   Make a decision, BlackDragonSlayer!
17:30   BlackDragonSlayer   And why did Dude pick k-NiGhT in particular.
17:30   Vera   Choose 2 Players whom you believe are the remaining Wolves.
17:31   Vera   Probably because he was confirmed and everyone else was suspicious in some way.
17:31   BlackDragonSlayer   If my life depended on a victory: Mashi and gzgregory... or Mashi and Jub3r7
17:31   BlackDragonSlayer   Or Mashi and Bubbles...
17:32   Vera   So you're set on me being a Wolf.
17:32   Vera   Despite the overwhelming evidence towards my humanity.
17:32   Vera   GJ.
17:32   BlackDragonSlayer   But mostly the first two; if I were to go with Bubbles as a wolf, I might find that it would be more likely that another person would be a wolf.
17:32   Vera   gzgregory may possibly vigi me, I think.
17:32   BlackDragonSlayer   "Overwhelming" is in the eye of the beholder (coughvera)
17:32   Vera   Since he hasn't seen my defence for my actions.
17:33   Vera   Overwhelming is in the eyes of the rational.
17:33   BlackDragonSlayer   Shady actions, and could possibly not reap enough reward.
17:33   Vera   What are you talking about.
17:33   BlackDragonSlayer   I am rational, and I do not see overwhelming.
17:33   Vera   Those shady actions did one of two things: Reveal a Wolf, confirm a Human.
17:33   Vera   I confirmed a Human.
17:33   BlackDragonSlayer   Shady actions that are ultra-risky.
17:34   Vera   That wasn't risky at all!
17:34   Vera   And besides, I do such things all the time.
17:34   BlackDragonSlayer   Whether or not gzgregory is a wolf, he probably would've done the same thing, in fear of himself.
17:34   Vera   No, he wouldn't.
17:34   BlackDragonSlayer   Since the wolves don't know each other, they're a lot less likely to trust each other.
17:34   BlackDragonSlayer   Yes, he might have.
17:34   Vera   No.
17:34   Vera   Because he wouldn't want to kill a fellow Wolf.
17:34   Vera   Don't try to make a possibility seem likely.
17:35   BlackDragonSlayer   He wouldn't kill a fellow wolf either way.
17:35   Vera   When it's probability of occurring is practically 0.
17:35   Vera   Yes, he would!
17:35   BlackDragonSlayer   You're doing the same thing
17:35   Vera   If I were a Wolf, his revealing me would most likely have me killed.
17:35   BlackDragonSlayer   A likely possibility is more than just a possiblity.
17:35   Vera   The possibility of my being a Wolf is ridiculously small.
17:35   BlackDragonSlayer   No; Dude didn't mention your claim.
17:36   BlackDragonSlayer   For example.
17:36   Vera   Yeah, I didn't really get that either.
17:36   BlackDragonSlayer   If he didn't have a reason to.
17:37   BlackDragonSlayer   At this point, a wolf might not care about finding his/her partners as long as he/she was alive.
17:37   Vera   No.
17:37   BlackDragonSlayer   Unless they already knew them previously.
17:37   Vera   An experienced Wolf would care.
17:37   BlackDragonSlayer   Why not; it would be foolish to accidentally reveal yourself to a human.
17:37   Vera   Because it's end game.
17:37   BlackDragonSlayer   Think of it.
17:37   BlackDragonSlayer   That's my point.
17:38   Vera   Following your logic, that makes me appear even more Human.
17:38   BlackDragonSlayer   Incorrect.
17:38   Vera   Since I committed such a risky action.
17:38   Vera   Since you love probability.
17:38   BlackDragonSlayer   You're going in an opposite direction.
17:38   Vera   Let me show you the probability of me being a Wolf from the wolfing alone.
17:38   Vera   There were 12 Players Night 1.
17:38   Vera   The chances of me being wolfed were 1/12.
17:39   Vera   Since Wolves don't know each other
17:39   Vera   .
17:39   Vera   I guarded myself, the chances of it being successful being 1/12.
17:39   BlackDragonSlayer   It would make sense that you would claim to Dude, who was already revealed as a wolf; he wouldn't have a problem telling that to you again.
17:39   Vera   1/12x1/12
17:39   Vera   1/144
17:39   Vera   There's less than 1% chance of me being a Wolf from an objective probability approach.
17:40   BlackDragonSlayer   No, that's not the chance of you being a wolf. Merely guarding yourself does not mean that you're not a wolf; it just means that you suspect that you'll be a target, for whatever reason.
17:40   waddle   Damn it's snowing hard in here
17:41   Vera   And I suspect of being a target because I'm Human and fear being wolfed.
17:41   Vera   But you refuse to accept that.
17:41   BlackDragonSlayer   Wolf and fearing wolfing.
17:41   Vera   In your Confirmation Bias and Belief Perseverance.
17:41   BlackDragonSlayer   Because there's no reason to accept it and only it.
17:41   Vera   Why would I waste a guard when I didn't know it would go through?
17:41   BlackDragonSlayer   Because if you didn't, you would've been wolfed.
17:41   Vera   I didn't know that.
17:41   BlackDragonSlayer   Whether or not you KNEW it.
17:41   Vera   No.
17:42   BlackDragonSlayer   You didn't think you were going to be wolfed, but you used your guard anyway... backwards...
17:42   Vera   Your logic is pretty ridiculous.
17:42      +++ waddle has given voice to waddle
17:43   BlackDragonSlayer   No more so than yours
17:43   Vera   No.
17:43   waddle   my christmas present
17:43   Vera   Because people agree with mine.
17:43   BlackDragonSlayer   Then that's your opinion.
17:43   waddle   I got a voice
17:43   Vera   There's no absolute objectivity.
17:43      *** ETFROXX joined #TWGNSM
17:43   BlackDragonSlayer   I can't hear it. :S
17:43   waddle   Hi ETFROXX!
17:43   Vera   To try to reach it is a chimera.
17:43   Vera   Hi, ETF!
17:43   Vera   And Waddle, I'll give you better gifts!!!
17:44   ETFROXX   hii
17:44   BlackDragonSlayer   Well, I simply must go and finish this 3-page science report.
17:44   Vera   How have you been, ETF???
17:44   Vera   
17:44   ETFROXX   ok
17:44   ETFROXX   tired
17:44   ETFROXX   you?
17:44   BlackDragonSlayer   Have fun releasing this chat log to make me seem like a wolf.
17:44   Vera   Busy.
17:44   Vera   Sure thing, BlackDragonSlayer!
17:44      *** BlackDragonSlayer quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)

I am surprised that you included the last part right before I left. :P I am also surprised how difficult it is to find sources openly supporting GM foods. :P

Oh, well then.
BDS I don't know why you're persisting in your suspicion of Mashi. You know very well nobody's going to agree with you, since you're not coming up with good arguments in favor of your theory.
And yeah, I'm still in favor of a BDS vigi.

Quote from: gzgregory on December 16, 2012, 04:47:47 PMOh, well then.
BDS I don't know why you're persisting in your suspicion of Mashi. You know very well nobody's going to agree with you, since you're not coming up with good arguments in favor of your theory.
And yeah, I'm still in favor of a BDS vigi.

I'm persisting in my suspicion because I have reasons to suspect him; the only significant reason you have to suspect me is because I was seered as red.
If, for example, as I said, if Bubbles (or you) was the one seered, and revealed as red, Bubbles (or you) would be the one under suspicion, now wouldn't it be? Solely fickle reasoning: if X is the first to be revealed as red, then X is a wolf... especially in a game with two millers.
Dude, for obvious reasons, we can tell, was not a miller (unless there was only one wolf left), but the same circumstances do not dictate that for me.

It does not matter whether anybody agrees with me or not (aside from the fact that "popular vote" is necessary for a lynching :P): what matters is my whether or not I am correct. As I recall, I was quite suspicious of SocialFox in Uprising Madness... yet that wasn't really the common opinion...

TWG XLIV: The Pokemon League
*Hosted by the_last_sheikah and Waddle Bro*

The game's universal effect: Items and Cardflip

The Rivals(Wolves):

1. Rival
2. Rival
3. Rival

The wolves don't know eachother.

The Trainers(Humans):

4. Trainer
5. Trainer
6. Trainer
7. Trainer
8. Trainer
9. Trainer
10. Trainer
11. Trainer (will be told that (s)he's green)
12. Trainer (will be told that (s)he's green)

1. Youngster BlackDragonSlayer
2. Artist K-NiGhT
3. Beauty Bubbles7689
4. Aroma Lady/Guy blueflower999
5. PI shadowkirby
6. Veteran Dude
7. The Fisherman Who Cried Wolf
8. Black Belt gzgregory
9. Cooltrainer Mashi
10. Ace Trainer spitllama
11. Gentleman davy
12. PokéManiac Jub3r7 P

Bubbles7689 was hit by razor leaf!  Bubbles7689 fainted!!!!!
Chimecho used recover!  Dude was revived!
The Grass starters used revive!  The Boy Who Cried Wolf was revived!
The Fire starters used Overheat!  BlackDragonSlayer was burnt to a crisp!
The Water starters used Foresight on gzgregory!
It is now Day 4.  Day 4 ends Tuesday 11 PM EST.(use this http://www.timeanddate.com/time/map/ to convert)

Well. This sucks. I hope the remaining humans make a good decision, or this will be the last phase :/

Come on guys, do it... there's still a chance!! *gasp*

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.wikia.com%2Fmightandmagic%2Fen%2Fimages%2F7%2F75%2FHoMM_2_Paladin.png&hash=3072eba56df3e11b8857045f27d04de6fdc3708e)

It's super effective!!

Dude.

Dude.

Dude

:<

Meanies.

He was risen from the deeeead!

Simon

TWG XLIV: The Pokemon League
*Hosted by the_last_sheikah and Waddle Bro*

The game's universal effect: Items and Cardflip

The Rivals(Wolves):

1. Rival
2. Rival
3. Rival

The wolves don't know eachother.

The Trainers(Humans):

4. Trainer
5. Trainer
6. Trainer
7. Trainer
8. Trainer
9. Trainer
10. Trainer
11. Trainer (will be told that (s)he's green)
12. Trainer (will be told that (s)he's green)

1. Youngster BlackDragonSlayer
2. Artist K-NiGhT
3. Beauty Bubbles7689
4. Aroma Lady/Guy blueflower999
5. PI shadowkirby
6. Veteran Dude
7. The Fisherman Who Cried Wolf
8. Black Belt gzgregory
9. Cooltrainer Mashi
10. Ace Trainer spitllama
11. Gentleman davy
12. PokéManiac Jub3r7 P

Dude was hit by Die Die Beam!  Dude shall taste OBLIVION!!!!!Which tastes exactly like red bull, which is disgusting.
Dude used Destiny Bond!  Dude took The Boy Who Cried Wolf with him!  Boy fainted!
THE PHASE CONTINUES!!
It is still Day 4.  Day 4 ends Tuesday 11 PM EST.(use this http://www.timeanddate.com/time/map/ to convert)

Okay, you have got to be kidding me.
I have to think about this.

...Well that escalated quickly





(I don't think that was technically a lynch so I suppose this post is okay?)

I'm 100% certain of my own humanity, and I think Mashi's human because earlier in the game he said something along the lines of "Wait, the wolves don't know each other?"
But that's really the only thing I have to go off of, and I don't want to rush this vote, so I won't place my vote just yet.

The last wolf is either gzgregory or Mashi. Also, I haven't really used any of my Pokemon at all this game.  :P

Quote from: the_last_sheikah on December 17, 2012, 05:32:22 AMDude was hit by Die Die Beam!

Haha Im sorry but I actually laughed out loud 4 realz about this. I forgot about it :P

*crawls back into grave*

At this point I think Mashi is more likely to be a wolf than Jub. Mashi's actions are more easily fakeable as a wolf than Jub's, and Jub's response to my questioning about Smeargle struck me as truthful: I still think that if Jub was a wolf he would have said he had caught Smeargle with a Master Ball.
Nevertheless, I'm going to read the entire game again, and probably post again tomorrow.

Jub3r7: No but seriously, if you're a wolf, go vote for yourself
otherwise, go vote for gzg
And I'll vote for him too
If you're not a wuff
ugh I don't know

Me: I find that incredibly suspicious.

Jub3r7: What I just said?

Me: Yes.

9:32pm
Jub3r7: See, I think you're human, but I'm not sure if you're human
I'm telling myself that I need more proof but I feel like I don't actually need more proof
That should explain me being weird
bleeehhhhh
Going to read the thread and see if that reaffirms my non-doubt in you?



Jub3r7 saying things like that makes me very weary of him.
And Jub3r7 has no actions to fake, gzgregory!  If anything, really, I'm the one who's deciding the lynch since I have the most evidence towards my humanity.  And I'm still leaning Jub3r7, surprisingly, because you were seered Red, gzgregory, which leads me to believe you're the Miller (and that comes as no surprise, seeing as no Reds have popped up until recently and I'm rather sure Doodle and BlackDragonSlayer were Wolves).

Also, neither of you vote, to avoid an Insta by a Wolf.

This is insanely entertaining.

6 hours and 19 minutes remaining.

Votes casted on players so far:

gzgregory: -
Mashi: -
Jub3r7: 0.01(Phantom)

Well because I'm home all night thanks to pep band being canceled, I'm moving the phase end up 1 hour.
Phase now ends 10 PM EST!!!!

TWC Post:  I'm going to step in here and say that you can't move up the end of the phase, especially not on such short notice .  If one of the players isn't aware of your change and was planning on voting some time in the last hour of the game, that change would drastically affect the outcome of the game.

time for me to ruin the game for the humans and have it all be my fault
gzgregory

wolves win

gzgregory

jk I'm human

yeah apparently wolves won

http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=5039.msg182822#msg182822

http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=5039.msg182823#msg182823

did humans lose now

yes
no
Are you actually a wolf
If not then we won!!!!

but jub3r7 didnt you read my post
i clearly said i was about to make the humans lose

stahp
dont be wuff
mashi
r u human
be human plz
b

sry

hoomin
plz
no
no sry
b hoominc


INSTAAA.

I wanted to actually have Jub3r7 lynched so that we could end the game with no one alive, but I wasn't entirely confident about gzgregory voting for him, so oh well.  Winning's good too.

*whoosh*

that is the sound of jub disappearing
bye

Quote from: vermilionvermin on December 18, 2012, 05:50:16 PMTWC Post:  I'm going to step in here and say that you can't move up the end of the phase, especially not on such short notice .  If one of the players isn't aware of your change and was planning on voting some time in the last hour of the game, that change would drastically affect the outcome of the game.

Sorry about that, you have a point, I'll not make that mistake again, but regardless...

I-I-I-INSTA!!!
WOLVES WIN!!!!!!!!!
Post game up shortly.