TWG: BOWSER'S BIG BLASTRules: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oOIqUz5b18
Every day phase, all players are forced to play BOWSER'S BIG BLAST. There will be [Number of Players] switches and two of them will cause BOWSER'S BIG HEAD to explode, killing those players at the end of the phase. Every player has to pick a switch during the day phase (by bolding the name of the switch), whoever picks a switch first gets that switch. They also have to lynch somebody. The wolf will be told what color the exploding switches are.
Anybody who fails to capitalize BOWSER or BOWSER'S BIG BLAST gets a phantom.
1. BOWSER
2. Human
3. Human
4. Human
5. Human
6. Human
7. Human
8. Human
9. Human
10. Human
11. Human
12. Human
13. Human
14. Human
15. Human
16. Human
17. HumanSo like, suppose there's 4 players left. At the update, it's revealed that the switches are RED, BLUE, GREEN, and YELLOW. First player to post can call GREEN, then GREEN is off-limits. Suppose the Wolf, knowing YELLOW is the exploding switch, picks RED, then the other players pick BLUE and YELLOW. Then they vote for the player who picked GREEN. At the end of the phase, the players who picked GREEN and YELLOW are killed. If the players vote off the person who picks the exploding switch, they DOUBLY DIE and I write a mean poem about them.
Human PM:
QuoteHuman.
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1. SocialFox
2. Dude
3. Bubbles789898879879879878
4. Kman96
5. vermilionvermin
6. shadowkirby
7. SlowPokemon
8. BlackDragonSlayer
9. Mashi
10. blueflower999
11. K-NiGhT
12. Thiannon
13. Waddle Bro
14. The Boy Who Cried Wolf
15. Hakan
16. the_last_sheikah
17. Jub3r7
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**READ THIS STUFF IT'S IMPORTANT**
By posting in this thread, you agree not to do any silly colluding with each other regarding which switches to pick. Don't create a system where you pick a certain switch each time, and everyone else also has to pick certain switches, blah blah blah. Violators will be murdered multiple times. Just pick the switch you like best!!!
Finally, the first four day phases have 2 exploding switches. That's right, DOUBLE BLASTING FOR THE FIRST FOUR DAYS.
It is now Night 1. Night 1 ends tomorrow at 7:00 PM CST! Good luck everyone!
Game on.
Just kidding, I'm adding the_last_sheikah!
The Boy Who Cried Wolf was the wolf. REROLL.
QuoteIt is now Night 1. Night 2 ends tomorrow....
8)
I KNEW IT! ::)
WHAT!? OMFG YOU HSAOFKJFD
Was an amazing pm..
YAAAAAAYYYYY!!!!!!!! Bird I love you, no homo. ;)
Okay, the roles are out. PM me if you're the wolf and didn't get a role PM.
Also TBWCW, horrible use of the 8) smiley. I'm talking to Mashi and vermilionvermin about a 3-game ban.
GUYS I'M A HUMAN, THERE'S NO REASON AT ALL FOR YOU TO THINK ANYTHING OTERWISE!!!!!!OMG. I was almost worried as to why I didn't get a pm. thank goodness.
Quote from: Bird on December 20, 2012, 06:39:28 PMCRY ABOUT IT.
okay... :'(
Quote from: Bird on December 20, 2012, 06:46:03 PMI'm talking to Mashi and vermilionvermin about a 3-game ban.
xD
Leggo.
Kman
BDS, I seered you red. Now would be the best time to defend yourself.
All right, as noted, I will be picking GREEN every day phase. Anyone who beats me to it will be summarily kneecapped.
I'm serious! Well, not about the kneecapping part, but I want green every day phase, because it's the Best Colour.
I baxy taxy Yelloww
Quote from: Waddle Bro on December 20, 2012, 06:52:52 PMBDS, I seered you red. Now would be the best time to defend yourself.
KWAHAHA! I didn't get a PM... so I'm not the wolf... :P
Quote from: Thiannon on December 20, 2012, 06:53:38 PMAll right, as noted, I will be picking GREEN every day phase. Anyone who beats me to it will be summarily kneecapped.
I'm serious! Well, not about the kneecapping part, but I want green every day phase, because it's the Best Colour.
Green is my favorite color. You will have to deal with my kneecap first. :P
Jub3r7 just sent me a PM asking to join. It would be dumb to arbitrarily deny him just 10 minutes after I let somebody else join. So in he goes!
I'm rerolling the game one final time. No more new entries! This time around, everybody gets a PM. Even humans!
After you get your roll PM, please reread the original post, and don't post again until you get your PM!
Also, Waddle Bro was the wolf.
Fu*k you Jub. :(
BLARGH.
Also call colour CYAN.
oops not allowed to post sowwy
I had a feeling it was waddle! *stalked who's online*
Quote from: Everyone between this post and my prior postHOW DO I READ
Roles are out. If you didn't get a role, send me a PM. Don't say "I DIDN'T GET A PM" in the thread.
Got PM.
Worst.
Got PM. No Miller. :(
I DIDNT GET A PM
just kidding
Here's my plan, whatever number you are in the player list, that's the switch you'll pick eg. Your number 4 on the player list, you'll always pick the fourth switch.
The wolf will disobey this. Whenever someone dies below you on the player list just subtract 1 to your number. To avoid confusion or excuses I'll make the list of Switches that correspond to our number.
Not an amazing plan but can work.
Quote from: Bird on December 20, 2012, 06:39:28 PMBy posting in this thread, you agree not to do any silly colluding with each other regarding which switches to pick. Don't create a system where you pick a certain switch each time, and everyone else also has to pick certain switches, blah blah blah. Violators will be murdered multiple times. Just pick the switch you like best!!!
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on December 20, 2012, 07:09:23 PMHere's my plan, whatever number you are in the player list, that's the switch you'll pick eg. Your number 4 on the player list, you'll always pick the fourth switch.
The wolf will disobey this. Whenever someone dies below you on the player list just subtract 1 to your number. To avoid confusion or excuses I'll make the list of Switches that correspond to our number.
Not an amazing plan but can work.
But if you are the wolf you can always make it so that good players like Mashi, vermverm and possibly Thiannon get the exploding switch.
Also bird how does the wolf know what the exploding switch is, does the wolf pick or does he recieve a PM.
Now I understand that...
The wolf will receive a PM containing the names of the exploding switch(es) at the beginning of each day phase.
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on December 20, 2012, 07:00:37 PMI had a feeling it was waddle! *stalked who's online*
I think we need to ban TCBY. He plays on like five other sites anyway!
Would make no sense either way; would only guarentee exploded humans.
To whoever the wolf is:
Feel free to email me your wolfing picks, if you don't want to bother with PMing and who is online stuff. My address is brianross13@gmail.com
My Plans still in effect, just don't tell Bird.
Quote from: Thiannon on December 20, 2012, 07:14:05 PMI think we need to ban TCBY. He plays on like five other sites anyway!
agreed
/totes not a wolf by saying this
jk
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on December 20, 2012, 07:15:06 PMWould make no sense either way; would only guarentee exploded humans.
What were you referring to?
Also chat.
Be there or be square.
And by square I mean fat.
Kidding!
And was also kidding about stalking who's online. :P
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on December 20, 2012, 07:17:02 PMKidding!
And was also kidding about stalking who's online. :P
Oh the lies
Social I'm here, your nowhere to be seen.
Quote from: SocialFox on December 20, 2012, 07:16:31 PMWhat were you referring to?
Also chat.
Be there or be square.
Boy.
Also I'm in the Pokemon Dream World. I'll be there soon.
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on December 20, 2012, 07:18:54 PMSocial I'm here, your nowhere to be seen.
14:19 waddle wtf is TBWCW talking about
14:19 waddle we are here in the chat
bahaha
Was on wrong server.
im bowser whats your name
Quote from: Hakan on December 20, 2012, 07:49:03 PMim bowser whats your name
Quote from: Bird on December 20, 2012, 06:39:28 PMAnybody who fails to capitalize BOWSER or BOWSER'S BIG BLAST gets a phantom.
Phantom #1.
bowser bowser bowser
Quote from: Waddle Bro on December 20, 2012, 07:58:34 PMbowser bowser bowser
That's 3 for you.
BIRD ARE YOU CATCHING ANY OF THIS?!?
bowser
BOWSER
This is my official rage face:
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BIRD IM KEEPING TRACK OF PHANTOMS AS OF RIGHRT NOW!!!!
Waddle- 3 (Isn't that a ban?)
Hakan- 2
Quote from: Kman96 on December 20, 2012, 08:16:41 PMThis is my official rage face:
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BIRD IM KEEPING TRACK OF PHANTOMS AS OF RIGHRT NOW!!!!
Waddle- 3 (Isn't that a ban?)
Hakan- 2
I almost read that as rape face.
Quote from: SocialFox on December 20, 2012, 08:19:58 PMI almost read that as rape face.
If you want rape face, then this one is for you... ;)
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Ah ha! You shall not catch me with the phantoms, BOWSER!
Guys look I am active
Quote from: shadowkirby on December 20, 2012, 08:57:08 PMGuys look I am active
Are you BOWSER?
Also, trying to catch the wolf by seeing who picks the switches first is a terrible idea: then everyone will be afraid to pick a switch. '_'
SO MUCH READING GRAAAAH.
But I actually did it. I still don't totally understand something, though:
During the day phase, we lynch someone AND pick a switch, there are two exploding ones per day phass at the beginning and later there will be only one. You pick an exploding switch, you die. Which switch do I pick, are they classified by number or color? Is there a switch 1, switch 2, etc. or a green switch, red switch, etc.? And how many are there?
I am not BOWSER. and @ Slow: It's by colours.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on December 20, 2012, 09:05:45 PMSO MUCH READING GRAAAAH.
But I actually did it. I still don't totally understand something, though:
During the day phase, we lynch someone AND pick a switch, there are two exploding ones per day phass at the beginning and later there will be only one. You pick an exploding switch, you die. Which switch do I pick, are they classified by number or color? Is there a switch 1, switch 2, etc. or a green switch, red switch, etc.? And how many are there?
There are enough switches to match with the number of players, and like shadow said, each deteremed by colour.
Which presents with a problem, as two people will pick a switch that gives you a ticket to Deadsville. that means that a
maximum of 4 people dying in a phase set. Meaning that we have 4 phases to catch the wolf. This is a problem, which can be fixed by a way I do not know of.
Just Random rambling. I know.
QuoteWhich presents with a problem, as two people will pick a switch that gives you a ticket to Deadsville. that means that a maximum of 4 people dying in a phase set. Meaning that we have 4 phases to catch the wolf. This is a problem, which can be fixed by a way I do not know of.
Double deaths my friend.
Quote@ Slow: It's by colours.
QuoteWhich switch do I pick, are they classified by number or color? Is there a switch 1, switch 2, etc. or a green switch, red switch, etc.? And how many are there?
They won't always be by colours, I have inside info. 8)
(is that good use of the 8) smiley Bird?)
Guys, I have found a potential wolf.
Quote from: Kman96 on December 20, 2012, 08:16:41 PMBIRD IM KEEPING TRACK OF PHANTOMS AS OF RIGHRT NOW!!!!
Waddle- 3 (Isn't that a ban?)
Hakan- 2
If he would be a human he would shut up instead of trying to get a player banned.
The BOWSER thing was a joke anyway. But it should always be capitalized. Be respectful to the dark lord of koopa!
TBWCW: Yes.
Quoteif he would be a human he would shut up instead of trying to get a player banned.
Be nice, be nice, we can lynch him next day if you like. The world shut up is a mean word. I'm sure he was only having a joke, this is a joke game afterall. :P
DOES THIS FACE LOOK LIKE A JOKE TO YOU???
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post, and I only got one PM from Bird on: December 20, 2012, 11:05:13 PM so idk if you sent out a more recent one or not.
Quote from: Kman96 on December 21, 2012, 07:42:05 AMDOES THIS FACE LOOK LIKE A JOKE TO YOU???
Quote from: Kman96 on December 20, 2012, 08:06:53 PMThat's 3 for you.
BIRD ARE YOU CATCHING ANY OF THIS?!?
This doesn't.
Present and accounted for.
Not much to discuss as of yet.
Quote from: Waddle Bro on December 21, 2012, 06:16:39 AMGuys, I have found a potential wolf. If he would be a human he would shut up instead of trying to get a player banned.
That fits with my theory of Kman being a wolf. :P
Better to lynch him and not risk anything.
How is Bird going to come up with 17 different unique colors? :P
So, if someone votes, but doesn't pick a switch, they get a phantom, right? What happens if they don't vote, and don't pick a switch? Do they get 2? Also, if they pick a switch, but don't vote, do they still get a phantom?
http://bit.ly/TdycV1
Ok, guys, I'm gonna be serious now. No more jokes, or faces, or anything like that from me.
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on December 21, 2012, 05:23:33 AMDouble deaths my friend.
babao.
Night 1 Wolfing.
Day 1 Lynching.
Exploding switch
Exploding switch.
Also I still call CYAN
Quote from: Kman96 on December 21, 2012, 01:34:06 PMOk, guys, I'm gonna be serious now. No more jokes, or faces, or anything like that from me.
Seriously, assuming you're not BOWSER, who should we lynch?
Also, what happens if somebody is lynched and chooses an exploding switch; does it count as both, or only one?
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on December 21, 2012, 01:53:40 PMSeriously, assuming you're not BOWSER, who should we lynch?
Also, what happens if somebody is lynched and chooses an exploding switch; does it count as both, or only one?
It counts as both and bird writes a mean poem about them.
Quote from: SocialFox on December 21, 2012, 01:55:53 PMIt counts as both and bird writes a mean poem about them.
Sorry, mind lapse.
Uh oh I think I'm going to explode for not remembering the rules of BOWSER'S BIG BLAST!
Quote from: Kman96 on December 20, 2012, 08:16:41 PMThis is my official rage face:
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BIRD IM KEEPING TRACK OF PHANTOMS AS OF RIGHRT NOW!!!!
Waddle- 3 (Isn't that a ban?)
Hakan- 2
Quote from: Kman96 on December 20, 2012, 08:23:02 PMIf you want rape face, then this one is for you... ;)
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Haha wait... those are in two different places. Do you have a picture of yourself for every emotion, including rape? XD
rape is now an emotion
I meant all emotions and also rape, but yeah its an emotion :P
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on December 21, 2012, 01:53:40 PMSeriously, assuming you're not BOWSER, who should we lynch?
Why are you so concerned with who we are going to lynch right now? People are still just showing up. I've got my eye on you.
Quote from: shadowkirby on December 21, 2012, 03:17:38 PMrape is now an emotion
BWAHAHAHAHAHA... I mean... that is not funny.
yes it is.
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on December 21, 2012, 03:07:03 PMHaha wait... those are in two different places. Do you have a picture of yourself for every emotion, including rape? XD
Haha, no, the one above it is a pic I had just taken, and then the one below is edited from an I'd Cap That pic that just so happened to be on my iPod.
Quote from: the_last_sheikah on December 21, 2012, 03:27:23 PMWhy are you so concerned with who we are going to lynch right now? People are still just showing up. I've got my eye on you.
I was thinking this, too.
Hey remember that part when we only have 4 days to catch the wolf I don't.
We better use our lynches wisely.
Quote from: the_last_sheikah on December 21, 2012, 03:27:23 PMWhy are you so concerned with who we are going to lynch right now? People are still just showing up. I've got my eye on you.
I like to see people repeat the same mistakes over and over again. :P Maybe not...
But, logicially, if we don't prepare, we'll only make it worse for ourselves. We can't all just vote for the player beneath us on the list!
Quote from: SocialFox on December 21, 2012, 03:35:34 PMHey remember that part when we only have 4 days to catch the wolf I don't.
We better use our lynches wisely.
Exactly.
As I said before, switches may not be named after colors.
Players who do not pick switches will be killed. I was going to have it so they would be randomly assigned to switches, but I don't trust that certain players wouldn't take advantage of that mechanic. So death it is.
Update postponed to 11:00 PM CST, since my family is opening Christmas presents tonight. Sorry folks!
Quote from: Bird on December 21, 2012, 03:39:32 PMPlayers who do not pick switches will be killed.
O_O
Good incentive to pick a switch.
hey lets all not pick switches to ruin everything for bird
Quote from: SocialFox on December 21, 2012, 03:44:33 PMhey lets all not pick switches to ruin everything for bird
Heheheh; if I were BOWSER, and I were mean, I'd choose the switch that explodes. :P
Quote from: Bird on December 21, 2012, 03:39:32 PMAs I said before, switches may not be named after colors.
Ok then what are the switches? I didn't get the memo.
Oh wait only during the day.
Ooookkkk I get it now.
hi dude 8)
Early update!
SocialFox was killed! Two people showed up to his funeral. Then they left after they found out there was no free food. It is now Day 1. Day 1 ends on December 23rd at 9:00 CST!
1. SocialFox
2. Dude
3. Bubbles789898879879879878
4. Kman96
5. vermilionvermin
6. shadowkirby
7. SlowPokemon
8. BlackDragonSlayer
9. Mashi
10. blueflower999
11. K-NiGhT
12. Thiannon
13. Waddle Bro
14. The Boy Who Cried Wolf
15. Hakan
16. the_last_sheikah
17. Jub3r7
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Switches:
Bitch Switch - The Boy Who Cried Wolf
Itch Switch - Jub3r7
Witch Switch - k-NiGhT
Ditch Switch - Bubbles23428342929
Fitch Switch - the_last_sheikah
Glitch Switch - blueflower999
Hitch Switch - Waddle Bro
Rich Switch -vermilionvermin
Lich Switch - Black Dragon Slayer
Which Switch - SlowPokemon
Kitsch Switch - Thiannon
Enrich Switch - Mashi
Bewitch Switch - Kman96
Stitch Switch - Hakan
Snitch Switch - Dude
Switch Switch - ShadowKirby
I'll update who has what switch as the phase progresses. Keep in mind that two of these switches are exploding. Talking and joking about plans to pick switches is fine, but if anybody comes close to acting on those plans, they'll be instantly killed. Just pick ones you like, jeeze!
Vote for switches and lynches by bolding the words in your post. Good luck!
Bitch Switch
BlackDragonSlayer
He seems a little different from usual.
Glitch Switch
I play some glitchy games. And I'll hold off on voting for now until more stuff happens.
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kman
Voting for Kman as safety, or what?
It's usually a good idea to say reasons before voting, or else people will get suspicious of you. :P
which switch
Also K-NiGhT for no reason P: too early to make solid judgments
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Kman, for reasons previously stated, if any. :P
If you think I'm acting different, your perception is mixed up. :P
Snitch Switch
idk who to vote for yet
Rich Switch
i want vermillion dollars
I'm most suspicious of Waddle, BDS, Kman and little bit of Shadowkirby, he's being active!!
Hey guys I want the Switch Switch!!
Enrich Switch
BOWSER
BOWSER
Guys if we insta BOWSER than we win!!
Heyyyyy....that's no fair! Why u guys want to lynch meeee...oh well.
Safety on Mashi.
...and I'll have the Bewitch Switch with a side of chili cheese fries.
Ditch Switch because you guys took all the good ones.
And stop voting so quickly unless its a safety. Why does Kman already have 2 votes -.- Did anyone even consider that the person who got wolfed was the one telling us to choose our lynching targets carefully?
The phase ends at 9:00 PM CST, correct? Thats Christmas eve for me :P Im saying this in advance, that I probably wont be playing much the 24th-26th due to family gatherings, but I guess thas expected
Safety on BDS because calm down
Quote from: Kman96 on December 21, 2012, 08:19:02 PMHeyyyyy....that's no fair! Why u guys want to lynch meeee...oh well.
Correction of above:
Fox shadowkirby.
Star Fox reference; I just forgot to put the slash on "Fox." :P
And, back of the topic:
Because, if we go flailing about like a Magikarp, BOWSER will have even more of an advantage in this game, BOWSER'S BIG BLAST.
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on December 21, 2012, 09:05:41 PMSafety on BDS because calm down
*facepalm*
You say you don't get why Kman has two votes, but your reasons, again, for voting for me are even less... sensible?
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on December 21, 2012, 09:08:59 PM*facepalm*
You say you don't get why Kman has two votes, but your reasons, again, for voting for me are even less... sensible?
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on December 21, 2012, 09:05:41 PMSafety on BDS because calm down
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on December 21, 2012, 09:05:41 PMSafety on BDS
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on December 21, 2012, 09:05:41 PMSafety
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on December 21, 2012, 09:05:41 PMSafety
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on December 21, 2012, 09:05:41 PMSafety
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on December 21, 2012, 09:05:41 PMSafety
Kitsch Switch sounds good to me. Also this is going to be crazy.
And I suggest lynching BDS because not only are his accusations nonexistant (I literally just read it back and idk where it started, he just said he was a wolf) but he also seems to be quickly switching targets, switching from Kman to me. This seems like a reasonable rookie mistake, since from what I can remember this would be BDS's first game as a wuff and it would be hard as the only one
Whoops. So yeah I dont know if it matters but my safety is now a BDS vote
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on December 21, 2012, 09:27:49 PMAnd I suggest lynching BDS because not only are his accusations nonexistant (I literally just read it back and idk where it started, he just said he was a wolf) but he also seems to be quickly switching targets, switching from Kman to me. This seems like a reasonable rookie mistake, since from what I can remember this would be BDS's first game as a wuff and it would be hard as the only one
Bubbles, I never said you were suspicious. If you read what I said (like, actually read it and understood it 100% :P), I am (and not even currently, despite the above quote) in no way trying to change my suspicion to you. I merely said that it was not entirely logical.
As I have said before and now, I may not have any experience as a wolf (as a human, I always seem to do SOMETHING that makes me suspicious...), but if I were a wolf, I would be sensible (well, I think I'm at least somewhat sensible now... so that doesn't help me at all, now does it? :P).
In fact, on an partially different subject, that seems to be my biggest mistake in most games: the wolves either wolf me because I'm too much of a threat to them, or try to make me suspicious, and thus get lynched.
Changing your safety to a vote makes even less
sense, especially given your previous statement. You're voting for me for the mere fact that I voted for Kman (?)... unless you WANT me to be suspicious of you?? ???
Just the fact that you questioned me at all when I just safetied you shows that you're jumpy. Why didnt K-night or Mashi question the people who saftied them? Because its a safety. Theres no reason to freak out about it
Im not voting for you because you voted for Kman. What made you think that? If you look at what I said and read it and understood it 100% then you would see that I voted for you because you were jumpy and were switching targets without reason for either. A first time wolf (with absolutely no experience) would either be inactive or overly active, and you dont strike me as one to be inactive
And lolno when youre a wolf for the first time you mess everything up.
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on December 21, 2012, 09:48:31 PMJust the fact that you questioned me at all when I just safetied you shows that you're jumpy. Why didnt K-night or Mashi question the people who saftied them? Because its a safety. Theres no reason to freak out about it
Im not voting for you because you voted for Kman. What made you think that? If you look at what I said and read it and understood it 100% then you would see that I voted for you because you were jumpy and were switching targets without reason for either. A first time wolf (with absolutely no experience) would either be inactive or overly active, and you dont strike me as one to be inactive
And lolno when youre a wolf for the first time you mess everything up.
To make this simple, I'm going to state one thing about each paragraph.
1: I was not 'jumpy'; I was merely pointing out what I thought wasn't consistent to what you just said in the very same post I thought you voted for me (it was a safety, not a vote, though). As you may know, I am always curious for more information.
2: I read what you said, but did you not read what I said before and after what you said? You are the only jumpy one who is voting quickly. Also, I am ALWAYS active. :)
3: That does not mean abiding in no way by logic.
Morning. Bird, what switches are currently avaiable?
nvm Hitch Switch
also safety Kman because reasons stated before and I haven't read the thread through yet.
Itch Switch because I don't want to scratch or something.
Anyways, I don't quite know who I want to vote yet so safety on... Bubbles?
You guys safety early and often! I guess it is Christmas, though.
Anyway, my new Day 1 strategy of voting off someone nobody thinks looks suspicious (hi Mashi) doesn't really work in a Manhunt. I do, however, think that we should work away from voting for someone that looks too "wolfy", because the obvious strategy in this or any manhunt is to fade into the background for at least the first few phases.
Have you guys played (m)any manhunts here? Because I don't believe I ever have myself. Basically, I'm wondering what the human success rate is on NSM and what strategies have and haven't worked.
Quote from: blueflower999 on December 21, 2012, 06:25:45 PMVoting for Kman as safety, or what?
It's usually a good idea to say reasons before voting, or else people will get suspicious of you. :P
because this
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On a serious note, no one here knows what the meaning of a safety vote is, so I am revoking my vote from
Kman. Safeties are for when you are busy for the rest of the day phase and don't know it=f you'll have time to come back. You don't just safety because you feel like it.
That Thiannon feller is pretty suspicious, as always.
I highly suggest a BDS lynch right now, he's said a lot of silly things that HE THINKS could add up to make him human, on my phone so quoting will be hard but from memory things like this:
"Haha BOWSER, you'll never catch me with phantoms!"
"If I were bowser and mean, I'd choose the exploding switch"
"If I were a wolf I would be sensible...."
And if you re-read the first 5 pages as I was doing yesterday, you'll see how noob-like, over-active, and different he is playing.
(No offence if your actually human)
Quote from: Waddle Bro on December 22, 2012, 12:22:02 AMalso safety Kman because reasons stated before and I haven't read the thread through yet.
Are you stupid? You can't safety on someone who has A vote, let alone two.
Also changing vote to
The Boy Who Cried Wolf, there's no real reason to lynch BDS yet beyond him making stupid jokes and using an annoying amount of :P smileys. And really, all new players are like that.
Right now, Bubbles and Waddle Bro are my other suspicions.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on December 22, 2012, 05:58:45 AMAre you stupid? You can't safety on someone who has A vote, let alone two.
He probably just posted without reading the thread. No need to call him stupid... :P
I realize that in the past, BDS has been one of my topic suspects. In almost every game. However, I'm starting to think that this is just his playing style. (and his untimely ability to always be Seer'd red) Yet again, this game he seems to be hyperactive and making weird comments, which could be his way of disguising his "wolfy-ness", if that makes sense. I won't vote for him, though, because I've been wrong in the past, and it could be that I'm just always suspicious of his playing style.
Knowing this, I'll take a safety on
Hakan
Too many safety's! Haha.
Also Slowpoke, I don't think on day 1 there can ever be a real reason to vote someone.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on December 22, 2012, 05:58:45 AMAre you stupid? You can't safety on someone who has A vote, let alone two.
Like I said I didn't read the thread through yet so I didn't know Kman had other votes. >.>
Safety on
Waddle Bro.
All right, just in the future don't vote until reading through the thread. It's cost us the game before.
I know how this works.
I can also name the game when that happened; Perfect Apples by Spyro.
/totes not a showoff lol
Nope, I was talking about an old game. :p if you know how it works then you shouldn't do it.
Okay, I'm over it. Wasn't a huge deal to begin with.
Quote from: Hakan on December 22, 2012, 05:34:25 AMOn a serious note, no one here knows what the meaning of a safety vote is, so I am revoking my vote from Kman. Safeties are for when you are busy for the rest of the day phase and don't know it=f you'll have time to come back. You don't just safety because you feel like it.
This. Theres no reason to get upset about them, unless you have multiple ones (which shouldnt happen anyway). Though you should probably know that I think you currently still have a vote on Kman, since I cant remember the exact rules for unvoting.
And BDS I tried reading your post but it was too confusing
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on December 21, 2012, 11:41:38 PM2: I read what you said, but did you not read what I said before and after what you said?
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on December 21, 2012, 11:41:38 PM3: That does not mean abiding in no way by logic.
Safety on shadowkirby
Well that's how we do it for where I usually play TWG. Saws or Mashi or Nighthawk can correct me otherwise.
Oh my gosh, everyone is talking about me. ::)
I don't really see it as a big deal that people are safety-ing/voting for me, but I will tell you that I'm human, and you'd know that as soon as I explode/am lynched. That seems to be the only way we can truly identify who is human- by who dies. as soon as we lynch the person who ISN'T human would anything change (i.e. Game's over)
As such, I guess it's only logical for someone to be up for sacrifice, seeing as there's only one wolf and like 16 humans. That's nuts.
P.S. As far as I can tell, BDS always manages to mess things up in a TWG...at least, it appears that's what he's done for the TWG's I've skimmed since I last played...What's your deal, man? Y u gotta be all over everyone?
I'll say I'm human again, not that it'll make any difference. and that goes for everyone.
Quote from: Hakan on December 22, 2012, 11:36:14 AMWell that's how we do it for where I usually play TWG. Saws or Mashi or Nighthawk can correct me otherwise.
Watch your mouth. Don't be using that LLF language here. >:(
Quote from: Kman96 on December 22, 2012, 11:39:57 AMWatch your mouth. Don't be using that LLF language here. >:(
I agree
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on December 22, 2012, 05:55:03 AMI highly suggest a BDS lynch right now, he's said a lot of silly things that HE THINKS could add up to make him human, on my phone so quoting will be hard but from memory things like this:
"Haha BOWSER, you'll never catch me with phantoms!"
"If I were bowser and mean, I'd choose the exploding switch"
"If I were a wolf I would be sensible...."
And if you re-read the first 5 pages as I was doing yesterday, you'll see how noob-like, over-active, and different he is playing.
(No offence if your actually human)
First quote: I trust that you read all the page associated with that quote, and quotes above it?
Second quote: SocialFox said, directly before that, in a really small font: "hey lets all not pick switches to ruin everything for bird."
The third quote, as with the others (the two above were more lighthearted comments), is taken partially out of context.
Also, I only have about 18 posts (aside from this one) on the first nine pages; you have 18 as well. For comparison, in the last game, I had about 28 posts in the first nine pages. Also for comparison, in my first game, I had about 14 posts in the first nine pages.
But Blueflower is right, as I even said: My biggest mistakes generally are: "...the wolves either wolf me because I'm too much of a threat to them, or try to make me suspicious, and thus get lynched."
It's a quest for knowledge and truth; a risky one. Being active doesn't mean that I'm twitchy... but what have I done in the past few games to make you all overly cautious of me? (must resist putting "something" after)
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on December 22, 2012, 11:55:02 AMBut Blueflower is right, as I even said: My biggest mistakes generally are: "...the wolves either wolf me because I'm too much of a threat to them, or try to make me suspicious, and thus get lynched."
It's a quest for knowledge and truth; a risky one. Being active doesn't mean that I'm twitchy... but what have I done in the past few games to make you all overly cautious of me? (must resist putting "something" after)
That's kind of the point. You're basically saying, "The wolves are gonna wolf me because I'm onto them, so you shouldn't lynch me because I'm gonna be right." If you look back on the Minecraft game (oh boy), you'll see how much I don't like that kind of power going into one person. Not one of us can know EXACTLY who BOWSER is. being suspicious is one thing.
However, if it comes to the point that you are wolfed, etc. based on your assumptions, our only action could be to follow up with your suspicion.
Main point being: Don't be cocky. We can be suspicious of you if we want. >:(
^very true. You can't just be arrogant and expect us to go with everything you say
Quote from: Kman96 on December 22, 2012, 12:01:58 PMThat's kind of the point. You're basically saying, "The wolves are gonna wolf me because I'm onto them, so you shouldn't lynch me because I'm gonna be right." If you look back on the Minecraft game (oh boy), you'll see how much I don't like that kind of power going into one person. Not one of us can know EXACTLY who BOWSER is. being suspicious is one thing.
However, if it comes to the point that you are wolfed, etc. based on your assumptions, our only action could be to follow up with your suspicion.
Main point being: Don't be cocky. We can be suspicious of you if we want. >:(
You seem to be misunderstanding all of what I'm trying to say, which, in turn, is getting nowhere (with both of us, which leads to stalling). Merely making a statement/pointing something out does not mean I am (or are trying to be) arrogant.
Sweet son of Buddha's left teat a lot has happened in one morning!
Fitch Switch cause the good ones are gone.
And I'm not so sure why so many people are all up in kman's grill. He always makes an "over the top, believe me cause i say so" statement about being human, its just his thing. BDS, you on the other hand are very suspicious to me, but I won't vote for you just yet, I'll see what other evidence comes to light before I do.
These are all the posts by BDS that I'm suspicious of (it's just about all the posts but 5)
In really long posts I bold the most suspicious parts.
QuoteGot PM. No Miller. :(
Simple post but it's quite clear there are no millers in the game, why point out your not a miller from your pm?
QuoteWould make no sense either way; would only guarantee exploded humans.
You didn't understand my plan or you were trying to make sure we didn't go through with it. Each phase has guaranteed exploding people, the only role that wouldn't like the plan would be BOWSER and look, you were the only one who didn't agree with it.
QuoteAh ha! You shall not catch me with the phantoms, BOWSER!
Your making a post to try and show your human, these don't work on me.
QuoteAre you BOWSER?
Another post were your trying to show your not BOWSER by asking someone if they are BOWSER.
QuoteAlso, trying to catch the wolf by seeing who picks the switches first is a terrible idea: then everyone will be afraid to pick a switch. '_'
I'm not sure why you made this post, I couldn't find a post where someone suggested this so I'm guessing you were just outlining this, why?
QuoteThat fits with my theory of Kman being a wolf.
Your saying now your sure Kman is a wolf, your on like the 4th page or something, you can't be sure with him making one post!
QuoteBetter to lynch him and not risk anything.
Now your trying to lead a lynch on someone who's having fun, I was enjoying his posts.
QuoteSeriously, assuming you're not BOWSER, who should we lynch?
Your wanting to start a lynch quickly, take your time!! We have to be careful with our lynches.
QuoteAlso, what happens if somebody is lynched and chooses an exploding switch; does it count as both, or only one?
I don't understand this post, it's been made obvious. It's sort of a question the wolf would ask.
"Why are you so concerned with who we are going to lynch right now? People are still just showing up. I've got my eye on you."
QuoteI like to see people repeat the same mistakes over and over again. Maybe not...
But, logicially, if we don't prepare, we'll only make it worse for ourselves. We can't all just vote for the player beneath us on the list!
The first parts just strange. The quote you were replying to is so true.
QuoteHeheheh; if I were BOWSER, and I were mean, I'd choose the switch that explodes.
Who says your not BOWSER? Another one of your posts to make yourself look human.
QuoteKman, for reasons previously stated, if any.
If you think I'm acting different, your perception is mixed up.
Your trying to assure people not to worry about you acting different, this won't work for me.
QuoteAnd, back of the topic:
Because, if we go flailing about like a Magikarp, BOWSER will have even more of an advantage in this game, BOWSER'S BIG BLAST.
You keep doing the caps thing, stop it's getting annoying. Your also trying to assure your not BOWSER, your here to help.
"And I suggest lynching BDS because not only are his accusations nonexistant (I literally just read it back and idk where it started, he just said he was a wolf) but he also seems to be quickly switching targets, switching from Kman to me. This seems like a reasonable rookie mistake, since from what I can remember this would be BDS's first game as a wuff and it would be hard as the only one"
QuoteBubbles, I never said you were suspicious. If you read what I said (like, actually read it and understood it 100% ), I am (and not even currently, despite the above quote) in no way trying to change my suspicion to you. I merely said that it was not entirely logical.
As I have said before and now, I may not have any experience as a wolf (as a human, I always seem to do SOMETHING that makes me suspicious...), but if I were a wolf, I would be sensible (well, I think I'm at least somewhat sensible now... so that doesn't help me at all, now does it? ).
In fact, on an partially different subject, that seems to be my biggest mistake in most games: the wolves either wolf me because I'm too much of a threat to them, or try to make me suspicious, and thus get lynched.
Changing your safety to a vote makes even less sense, especially given your previous statement. You're voting for me for the mere fact that I voted for Kman (?)... unless you WANT me to be suspicious of you??
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You have a few votes, calm down, only makes you more suspicious! Your being a little jumpy. Bolded parts speak for themselves.
"Just the fact that you questioned me at all when I just safetied you shows that you're jumpy. Why didnt K-night or Mashi question the people who saftied them? Because its a safety. Theres no reason to freak out about it
Im not voting for you because you voted for Kman. What made you think that? If you look at what I said and read it and understood it 100% then you would see that I voted for you because you were jumpy and were switching targets without reason for either. A first time wolf (with absolutely no experience) would either be inactive or overly active, and you dont strike me as one to be inactive
And lolno when youre a wolf for the first time you mess everything up."
QuoteTo make this simple, I'm going to state one thing about each paragraph.
1: I was not 'jumpy'; I was merely pointing out what I thought wasn't consistent to what you just said in the very same post I thought you voted for me (it was a safety, not a vote, though). As you may know, I am always curious for more information.
2: I read what you said, but did you not read what I said before and after what you said? You are the only jumpy one who is voting quickly. Also, I am ALWAYS active.
3: That does not mean abiding in no way by logic.
You were jumpy. Trying hard to justify yourself for 1 person.
"I highly suggest a BDS lynch right now, he's said a lot of silly things that HE THINKS could add up to make him human, on my phone so quoting will be hard but from memory things like this:
"Haha BOWSER, you'll never catch me with phantoms!"
"If I were bowser and mean, I'd choose the exploding switch"
"If I were a wolf I would be sensible...."
And if you re-read the first 5 pages as I was doing yesterday, you'll see how noob-like, over-active, and different he is playing.
(No offence if your actually human)"
QuoteFirst quote: I trust that you read all the page associated with that quote, and quotes above it?
Second quote: SocialFox said, directly before that, in a really small font: "hey lets all not pick switches to ruin everything for bird."
The third quote, as with the others (the two above were more lighthearted comments), is taken partially out of context.
Also, I only have about 18 posts (aside from this one) on the first nine pages; you have 18 as well. For comparison, in the last game, I had about 28 posts in the first nine pages. Also for comparison, in my first game, I had about 14 posts in the first nine pages.
But Blueflower is right, as I even said: My biggest mistakes generally are: "...the wolves either wolf me because I'm too much of a threat to them, or try to make me suspicious, and thus get lynched."
It's a quest for knowledge and truth; a risky one. Being active doesn't mean that I'm twitchy... but what have I done in the past few games to make you all overly cautious of me? (must resist putting "something" after)
I knew SocialFox was a wolf with his first post after pm's went out. It said;
QuoteGot PM. Worst
Sadly for you though you don't know what the pm is so you can't comment on that. Wolf pm is nice, agree? The Human one is boring.
The quote was not taken out of context, it was taken out of a sentence since I was typing from memory but it did justify my point and so does the whole post it was taken from.
"That's kind of the point. You're basically saying, "The wolves are gonna wolf me because I'm onto them, so you shouldn't lynch me because I'm gonna be right." If you look back on the Minecraft game (oh boy), you'll see how much I don't like that kind of power going into one person. Not one of us can know EXACTLY who BOWSER is. being suspicious is one thing.
However, if it comes to the point that you are wolfed, etc. based on your assumptions, our only action could be to follow up with your suspicion.
Main point being: Don't be cocky. We can be suspicious of you if we want. "
QuoteYou seem to be misunderstanding all of what I'm trying to say, which, in turn, is getting nowhere (with both of us, which leads to stalling). Merely making a statement/pointing something out does not mean I am (or are trying to be) arrogant.
No one seems to be understanding any of your posts, strange.
Sorry for super super super long post.
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on December 22, 2012, 11:55:02 AMIt's a quest for knowledge and truth; a risky one. Being active doesn't mean that I'm twitchy... but what have I done in the past few games to make you all overly cautious of me? (must resist putting "something" after)
Honestly, kman said it best:
Quote from: Kman96 on December 22, 2012, 11:39:57 AMP.S. As far as I can tell, BDS always manages to mess things up in a TWG...at least, it appears that's what he's done for the TWG's I've skimmed since I last played...What's your deal, man? Y u gotta be all over everyone?
I really don't feel like going and finding them, but calm down and think things through before you tell your suspicions, especially if you don't have any logical evidence to back it up
Safeties are votes you make for the sole purpose of avoiding a phantom at the end of the phase. As Hakan said, the main reason you would make a safety vote is in case you don't think you'll have time to change your vote to somebody you think is a wolf. If you are at all suspicious of a person when you vote for them, that vote isn't a safety.
If you want to say that you don't have a lot of faith in your vote, call it a "weak vote" or add a qualifying statement like "Timmy, but that could easily change."
Keep up the good work though. Only two people left to pick switches, k-NiGhT and Waddle Bro.
Quote from: Bird on December 21, 2012, 06:09:45 PMEarly update!
SocialFox was killed! Two people showed up to his funeral. Then they left after they found out there was no free food. It is now Day 1. Day 1 ends on December 23rd at 9:00 CST!
But I asked for a cremation.
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on December 22, 2012, 01:44:23 PMSimple post but it's quite clear there are no millers in the game, why point out your not a miller from your pm?
It's called a joke. :P
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on December 22, 2012, 01:44:23 PMYou didn't understand my plan or you were trying to make sure we didn't go through with it. Each phase has guaranteed exploding people, the only role that wouldn't like the plan would be BOWSER and look, you were the only one who didn't agree with it.
You're really desperate to find things to try and make me seem suspicious. Your plan did not make much sense.
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on December 22, 2012, 01:44:23 PMYour making a post to try and show your human, these don't work on me.
Another post were your trying to show your not BOWSER by asking someone if they are BOWSER.
You're either desperate or over-analyzing everything I said... -__-
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on December 22, 2012, 01:44:23 PMI'm not sure why you made this post, I couldn't find a post where someone suggested this so I'm guessing you were just outlining this, why?
Being disorganized is not a very good way to do anything in this game. If everyone jumped on the person who chose a switch first (assuming that that person was the wolf, and knew which switches were the exploding ones), then that would be a guaranteed way to NOT catch the wolf.
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on December 22, 2012, 01:44:23 PMYour saying now your sure Kman is a wolf, your on like the 4th page or something, you can't be sure with him making one post!
Now your trying to lead a lynch on someone who's having fun, I was enjoying his posts.
Read the post I was quoting. You're getting really, really, very desperate, now aren't you? :S
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on December 22, 2012, 01:44:23 PMNow your trying to lead a lynch on someone who's having fun, I was enjoying his posts.
Your wanting to start a lynch quickly, take your time!! We have to be careful with our lynches.
I didn't want to start a lynch quickly, I just wanted to make sure we did not panic, or merely vote at random, in an extremely disorganized way.
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on December 22, 2012, 01:44:23 PMI don't understand this post, it's been made obvious. It's sort of a question the wolf would ask.
U_U Seriously...? How does not remembering the rules make me a wolf!?!?!?
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on December 22, 2012, 01:44:23 PMThe first parts just strange. The quote you were replying to is so true.
Have you forgotten everything that has gone on in past events? :P Again, what I said is coming to pass; everyone is jumping on me... just for being me!!! :P I'm not trying to make anyone think that I am or not a wolf; I'm just saying what I've done before, what I think might be helpful to gain more information (not in all cases), or what has been natural for me over the past games I've played.
The rest of the quotes:
No; I thought Bubbles actually voted for me, not just a safety; I found it contradictory how Bubbles said not to rush and vote for Kman, yet she was voting for me (or so I thought). Asking for reasoning behind a vote (even if I made a mistake) is nothing unusual.
Guys, we have to be realistic about this. BDS is undoubtedly the most suspicious player at the moment, and just behind him, I would say TBWCW. The point is that we have (now) 15 humans and one wolf. That's a very small chance that we'll figure out who BOWSER is, let alone if we just lynch someone at random.
Now, I might get my head bit off for this, but we can't be afraid to lynch someone if they turn out to be human. By doing the easy math, the chances of finding out BOWSER would grow exponentially by the loss of humans. Personally, I would be totally willing to let myself be lynched to prove both my point and my humanity.
Now, here's where I'm conflicted. If I were to switch my vote to BDS, I might be framed as a wolf, whereas switching my vote to myself would be just as dangerous, seeing as how I have 3(2?) Already.so for now, I'm removing my vote.
Guys I go watch one movie and you post like a million times when I'm gone. Don't do it
without me. ):Anyways, because I'm bored I might as well do this.
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on December 22, 2012, 01:44:23 PMSimple post but it's quite clear there are no millers in the game, why point out your not a miller from your pm?
WADDLE: Because he has been the miller like a million times now. <.<
You didn't understand my plan or you were trying to make sure we didn't go through with it. Each phase has guaranteed exploding people, the only role that wouldn't like the plan would be BOWSER and look, you were the only one who didn't agree with it.
WADDLE: No, because "Would make no sense either way" means that he didn't understand where you were going with your plan.
Your making a post to try and show your human, these don't work on me.
WADDLE: Seriously? "omg he made a post for no reason hez totes wuff" No. I guess he was just bored or something, like you were when you did your spamming spree on the Forum Games section few weeks back.
Another post were your trying to show your not BOWSER by asking someone if they are BOWSER.
WADDLE: What I just said.
I'm not sure why you made this post, I couldn't find a post where someone suggested this so I'm guessing you were just outlining this, why?
WADDLE: Still fits in the reason I said before.
Your saying now your sure Kman is a wolf, your on like the 4th page or something, you can't be sure with him making one post!
WADDLE: *you're -.- I'm guessing he was simply agreeing with me because
"Ah ha! You shall not catch me with the phantoms, BOWSER!" means that was directed towards Kman and by that he meant theory. No one can say for sure is someone bowser(yah i'm a rebel). You're also saying that BDS is the bowser because Your making a post to try and show your human, these don't work on me means that you're sure about that BDS is a wolf even though you previously stated it was a suspicion. This is contradicting. (...I found it quite interesting how my English is better than yours)
Now your trying to lead a lynch on someone who's having fun, I was enjoying his posts.
WADDLE: I would have lead a lynch against him unless you hadn't shown up.(that sounded better in my head lol) I see you more of a wolf than Kman.
Your wanting to start a lynch quickly, take your time!! We have to be careful with our lynches.
WADDLE: I'm pretty sure he was asking Kman's suspicions.
I don't understand this post, it's been made obvious. It's sort of a question the wolf would ask.
"Why are you so concerned with who we are going to lynch right now? People are still just showing up. I've got my eye on you."
WADDLE: You don't understand that someone doesn't understand. Understandingception! There is nothing wrong about not understanding/not remembering.
The first parts just strange. The quote you were replying to is so true.
WADDLE: You deleted the smiley face :P <--- Usually smiley faces mean that they're not serious.
Who says your not BOWSER? Another one of your posts to make yourself look human.
WADDLE: Again, said before.
Your trying to assure people not to worry about you acting different, this won't work for me.
WADDLE: lol BDS has always been a little nuts 'n' bolts. His defenses sucked ass in the previous game. Again, you're implying you're sure of BDS being a wolf.
You keep doing the caps thing, stop it's getting annoying. Your also trying to assure your not BOWSER, your here to help.
WADDLE: I think that was the most entertaining post so far in this game(not counting shadowkirby's epic emotion post).
"And I suggest lynching BDS because not only are his accusations nonexistant (I literally just read it back and idk where it started, he just said he was a wolf) but he also seems to be quickly switching targets, switching from Kman to me. This seems like a reasonable rookie mistake, since from what I can remember this would be BDS's first game as a wuff and it would be hard as the only one"
WADDLE: This pretty much is the only reason why BDS could be a wolf imo but this fact doesn't weight as much as you going after BDS like this. If you would be proven to be human, I would probably lynch BDS next. You both act time to time like you're high on sugar or something.
You have a few votes, calm down, only makes you more suspicious! Your being a little jumpy. Bolded parts speak for themselves.
WADDLE: Straight back at ya.
"Just the fact that you questioned me at all when I just safetied you shows that you're jumpy. Why didnt K-night or Mashi question the people who saftied them? Because its a safety. Theres no reason to freak out about it
Im not voting for you because you voted for Kman. What made you think that? If you look at what I said and read it and understood it 100% then you would see that I voted for you because you were jumpy and were switching targets without reason for either. A first time wolf (with absolutely no experience) would either be inactive or overly active, and you dont strike me as one to be inactive
And lolno when youre a wolf for the first time you mess everything up."
WADDLE: BDS isn't such a good TWGer... sorry... Also pretty much every game BDS has played has been given me an impression of him being the wolf because of his noobish action all the time. xD
You were jumpy. Trying hard to justify yourself for 1 person.
WADDLE: BDS sucks ass when trying to defend himself, proven by The Pokemon League.
"I highly suggest a BDS lynch right now, he's said a lot of silly things that HE THINKS could add up to make him human, on my phone so quoting will be hard but from memory things like this:
"Haha BOWSER, you'll never catch me with phantoms!"
"If I were bowser and mean, I'd choose the exploding switch"
"If I were a wolf I would be sensible...."
And if you re-read the first 5 pages as I was doing yesterday, you'll see how noob-like, over-active, and different he is playing.
WADDLE: That is NO reason AT ALL why somebody should be lynched.
(No offence if your actually human)"
I knew SocialFox was a wolf with his first post after pm's went out. It said; Sadly for you though you don't know what the pm is so you can't comment on that. Wolf pm is nice, agree? The Human one is boring.
The quote was not taken out of context, it was taken out of a sentence since I was typing from memory but it did justify my point and so does the whole post it was taken from.
WADDLE: no comment
"That's kind of the point. You're basically saying, "The wolves are gonna wolf me because I'm onto them, so you shouldn't lynch me because I'm gonna be right." If you look back on the Minecraft game (oh boy), you'll see how much I don't like that kind of power going into one person. Not one of us can know EXACTLY who BOWSER is. being suspicious is one thing.
However, if it comes to the point that you are wolfed, etc. based on your assumptions, our only action could be to follow up with your suspicion.
Main point being: Don't be cocky. We can be suspicious of you if we want. "
No one seems to be understanding any of your posts, strange.
WADDLE: lololol
Sorry for
WADDLE: Sorry for quoting a super super super long post.
Conclusion: Cut down the sugar, both of you.
PS. BDS if you're a wolf I'll be very sad for spending an hour in defending your ass.
ninja'd x 6
Quote from: Bird on December 22, 2012, 02:56:22 PMOnly two people left to pick switches, k-NiGhT and Waddle Bro.
Quote from: Waddle Bro on December 22, 2012, 12:20:54 AMnvm Hitch Switch
???
Quote from: Kman96 on December 22, 2012, 04:10:13 PMPersonally, I would be totally willing to let myself be lynched to prove both my point and my humanity.
Please dont die. Youre one of the only people thinking rationally in this game
Oh right, from the two options, I would choose TBWCW.
2:32 AM -> goes to sleep
Quote from: Waddle Bro on December 22, 2012, 04:32:34 PMOh right, from the two options, I would choose TBWCW.
2:32 AM -> goes to sleep
I'm a bit hesitant to change my vote yet... Unless Boy is the wolf and is overreacting early in the game, I think he may be a victim of what some may call a type of "mass hysteria."
"You both act time to time like you're high on sugar or something."
:-X
I think BDS had the weaker points in that argument. Also sorry for switching my vote so much, I've been given too much to think about. On a different note, this game is certainly not boring.
I know what I said earlier, but I really don't have anything to go on. This'll change if something else happens, but for now, BDS
I guess i'll take the last switch that's left since I was WORKING ALL DAY.
Just in case I'm lynched, my suspicions are, in not really any particular order:
Kman
The Boy Who Cried Wolf
Less suspicious:
Bubbles
I doubt you'll listen to me, but...
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on December 22, 2012, 07:52:17 PMJust in case I'm lynched, my suspicions are, in not really any particular order:
Kman
Disregarding that... :-\
So here is a list of players (in no particular order) who have not contributed very much to the game, and it may be wise to hold all decisions until we hear them out:
Thiannon
Vermillionvermin
Jub3r7
shadowkirby
Dude
Mashi
K-NiGhT
Meh:Hakan
Slowpokemon
Blueflower999
the_last_sheikah
Bubbles(?)
Seemingly most involved:Kman96
The Boy Who Cried Wolf
BlackDragonSlayer
Waddle Bro
But Kman this is the most active I've ever been!
^ He has a point
And also you could switch me and Waddle :P
Quote from: shadowkirby on December 22, 2012, 08:10:55 PMBut Kman this is the most active I've ever been!
activity is different from contribution.
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on December 22, 2012, 08:12:13 PM^ He has a point
And also you could switch me and Waddle :P
But you haven't been as involved as waddle as.
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on December 22, 2012, 07:52:17 PMJust in case I'm lynched, my suspicions are, in not really any particular order:
Kman
The Boy Who Cried Wolf
Less suspicious:
Bubbles
I doubt you'll listen to me, but...
Funny how they are the ones most suspicious of you ::)
I agree with kman's logic about the exponential growth of finding the wolf as more humans die. We can't avoid the switch deaths, but for lynches, for now we need to keep people with level/logical heads.
BDS, your head is askew and you are causing more controversy and confusion than necessary. If you are the wolf, this could be the shortest game ever, of all time. If not, the wolf is probably thriving on this chaos as means to stay hidden.
Also lets not forget that with only one wolf, Bird could be the wolf and just toying with our mind to see how we respond under pressure. If so, I applaud you for using the idea in a better manner than the last time they did this in TWG XXIII. If not, I'm paranoid and this will be considered funny.
P.S.NINJA'D X4!!!
P.P.S. X5!!!
Ohey changing vote to BlackDragonSlayer
Quote from: SlowPokemon on December 22, 2012, 08:13:35 PMBut you haven't been as involved as waddle as.
But Waddle just came back on page 8 without reading the thread yet (when he saftied Kman) Does that mean theres some secret alliance? Im always left out D:
Vote Count:Dude- *none*
Bubbles7689- BDS
Kman96- *none*
vermilionvermin- *none*
shadowkirby- BDS
SlowPokemon- BDS
BlackDragonSlayer- Kman96
Mashi- BOWSER
blueflower999- BDS
K-NiGhT- *none*
Thiannon- *none*
Waddle Bro- TBWCW
The Boy Who Cried Wolf- BDS
Hakan- Kman96
the_last_sheikah- BDS
Jub3r7- Bubbles
Bird- TimmyQuote from: Bubbles7689 on December 22, 2012, 08:29:56 PMBut Waddle just came back on page 8 without reading the thread yet (when he saftied Kman) Does that mean theres some secret alliance? Im always left out D:
No, don't worry, there's no secret alliance. Or at least, not one that I'm involved with. I simply meant that you had just really agreed with one person or another. You were a definite midpoint between involved and meh. So don't take that too harshly, bubz. you have put in your opinion, which is pretty much all we have at the moment.
Shoot, forgot to total:
BDS: 6 votes
Kman96: 2 3 votes
TBWCW: 1 vote
Bubbles: 1 vote
Phantoms: 5 4.
Verm
Dude
K-NiGhT
Thiannon
I really don't know who to vote for. Kman96. For THE BERUOCRACY.
I wasnt taking it harshly, I was just worried that I was left out of another alliance. Last game didnt really count, since the leader was the master wolf -.-
But I dont remember agreeing with anyone. I kinda raged on BDS like I did with TBWCW last game
Ninja'd: NO DONT DIE PLEASE XD
The consensus seems to be BDS. I'll go with that for now.
I really hope the Lich switch isn't one of the exploding ones. :P
Quote from: the_last_sheikah on December 22, 2012, 08:14:15 PMFunny how they are the ones most suspicious of you ::)
I was suspicious of Kman before.
I was only suspicious of Bubbles and TBWCW when they started "ranting."
Quote from: the_last_sheikah on December 22, 2012, 08:14:15 PMBDS, your head is askew and you are causing more controversy and confusion than necessary. If you are the wolf, this could be the shortest game ever, of all time. If not, the wolf is probably thriving on this chaos as means to stay hidden.
There's more causing the confusion... whether or not Bird is the 'wolf', this is definitely toying with our minds (since there is only one wolf, mostly everyone seems to have a general feeling of disorientation). I just hope that the players won't get more confused as the game goes on.
Quote from: K-NiGhT on December 22, 2012, 09:07:23 PMThe consensus seems to be BDS. I'll go with that for now.
Just remember my suspicions...
Seriously, I know we have an entire day left, but it looks like BDS is going to be lynched (2 more votes). At this point if hes not the wolf the actual wolf would lie low to not attract suspicion, getting us nowhere (especially since this is basically a manhunt). I dont care if this makes me seem reaaalllyy wolfy, but just insta him please. I dont want to be too worried about this game during christmas, so speedy is good
impatient bubbles is impatient
One thing I find interesting, though, is how if I say something even remotely suspicious, everybody automatically jumps on me... I seem to be quite the preferable scapegoat, whether that's just a matter of opinions...
Gosh, I was about to strongly agree with you, bubbles, but there's only one thing that's stopping us from hastily lynching or insta'ing our fellow humans. the switches, and the blasting. That is inevitable.
The more humans that die, the quicker the wolf is found, but if we aren't cautious, the remaining humans may be left without the brains (::)) to figure out the rest. I'd like to just say "OF WITH THEIR HEADS!!!" but I can't, because I know what it will do to our team...
This game seems too simple...and then I remember the switches...boom.
Ninja'd x2
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on December 22, 2012, 09:24:00 PMOne thing I find interesting, though, is how if I say something even remotely suspicious, everybody automatically jumps on me... I seem to be quite the preferable scapegoat, whether that's just a matter of opinions...
I'm personally losing suspicion of BDS. His defense, as well as ominous foretelling of his suspicions, shows that he knows the game will go on after his death. That makes me want to keep him alive, yet 1, even with his death we as a team will be plenty safe from wolf harm, and 2, this could still be a ploy to save the wolf. BDS, you're a hard cookie to read.
a fortune cookie, one might say...Quote from: Hakan on December 22, 2012, 09:24:23 PMgo away
you too
no, you. This is NSM, not LLF.
http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=5125.msg183706#msg183706
I'm going to stand up for a sneaking suspicion that I have
which is
bds might not be a wolf????
In the linked post, he gives us something to use after his death ("in case I'm lynched"), and that wouldn't really make sense as a Bowser.
But really, while I'm giving evidence to his humanity, I don't know who I'd vote in his place so I guess I'm not really helping that much?
Quote from: Kman96 on December 22, 2012, 09:29:03 PMGosh, I was about to strongly agree with you, bubbles, but there's only one thing that's stopping us from hastily lynching or insta'ing our fellow humans. the switches, and the blasting. That is inevitable.
The more humans that die, the quicker the wolf is found, but if we aren't cautious, the remaining humans may be left without the brains (::)) to figure out the rest. I'd like to just say "OF WITH THEIR HEADS!!!" but I can't, because I know what it will do to our team...
But its Night 1. People are gonna die, and we cant stop that. I might even die with the switches. Lynching BDS early wont leave us with incapable humans, unless we have extremely bad luck with the switches. The switches people picked wont change, so if my Ditch Switch is an exploding one now it will be one at 9 tomorrow
UNRELATED TO TWG POST
omg jub your avatar was dancing along with my music and i laughed so hard.
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on December 22, 2012, 09:34:21 PMLynching BDS early wont leave us with incapable humans...
I really hope so. O_O
:P
Sorry I wasn't able to contribute more today.
I don't really like the BDS lynch. I feel like he's usually pretty jumpy, and this is the first time he's been called on it! If someone can disprove this point, I'd be more OK with lynching him, but at this point this looks like a standard BDS-playstyle.
TBWCW's early vote is out of the ordinary, but I don't think activity patterns are a legitimate reason to vote for someone, especially given how much discussion it's sparked.
Bubbles was way quieter as a wolf in Snakes on a Plane. I doubt she'd try to be one of the driving forces behind a lynch this one. It'd be really out of character for her to do so.
What I think is more important is the wolfing. The Socialfox wolfing is weird and absolutely should be analyzed. As a wolf, I know I avoid wolfing players who are new or haven't played recently if it's possible. It's no secret that Socialfox has been banned from the last game. Those who are most likely to have wolfed him are those who were angry with him, those who want to frame the people who were angry with him, and people who don't look at previous games when choosing wolfings. If we're basing it solely on where there's the most conflict between people, Waddle is the most wolfy. If we're basing it off framing, there are quite a few people who are candidates. I don't really know what factors people consider when choosing a wolfing, but I do know I was wolfed Night 1 three games in a row at one point, and people who were wolves in that span (Kman and Dude are the only two in this game) I think wouldn't mind wolfing someone who had been unable to play the previous game.
I'll place a vote on Jub3r7 because defending humans in a manhunt is a great wolf strategy. Getting behind lynches of them is not. I also give him the credit to wolf Socialfox in the hopes that it causes other people to become more suspicious.
Quote from: vermilionvermin on December 23, 2012, 02:13:51 AMWhat I think is more important is the wolfing. The Socialfox wolfing is weird and absolutely should be analyzed. As a wolf, I know I avoid wolfing players who are new or haven't played recently if it's possible. It's no secret that Socialfox has been banned from the last game. Those who are most likely to have wolfed him are those who were angry with him, those who want to frame the people who were angry with him, and people who don't look at previous games when choosing wolfings.
At the current moment, I assume that it might be:
1: That reason.
2: He's the first on the player list.
3: Sole purpose of throwing us off.
All I have to say to that is that I have nothing against SocialFox. Actually I wanted him to play longer to see can he follow the rules or not. That's why I took away his ban, because Doctor Two was a likely winner(it was in a 2-vote lead) and I wanted him to play that game to see if he can play this game properly.
Also. I honestly don't think BDS would have planned of wolfing SocialFox, he isn't that clever in TWG. (I'm sorry BDS, forgive me) Someone was clearly trying to frame me or something.
Quote from: vermilionvermin on December 23, 2012, 02:13:51 AMSorry I wasn't able to contribute more today.
I don't really like the BDS lynch. I feel like he's usually pretty jumpy, and this is the first time he's been called on it! If someone can disprove this point, I'd be more OK with lynching him, but at this point this looks like a standard BDS-playstyle.
TBWCW's early vote is out of the ordinary, but I don't think activity patterns are a legitimate reason to vote for someone, especially given how much discussion it's sparked.
Bubbles was way quieter as a wolf in Snakes on a Plane. I doubt she'd try to be one of the driving forces behind a lynch this one. It'd be really out of character for her to do so.
What I think is more important is the wolfing. The Socialfox wolfing is weird and absolutely should be analyzed. As a wolf, I know I avoid wolfing players who are new or haven't played recently if it's possible. It's no secret that Socialfox has been banned from the last game. Those who are most likely to have wolfed him are those who were angry with him, those who want to frame the people who were angry with him, and people who don't look at previous games when choosing wolfings. If we're basing it solely on where there's the most conflict between people, Waddle is the most wolfy. If we're basing it off framing, there are quite a few people who are candidates. I don't really know what factors people consider when choosing a wolfing, but I do know I was wolfed Night 1 three games in a row at one point, and people who were wolves in that span (Kman and Dude are the only two in this game) I think wouldn't mind wolfing someone who had been unable to play the previous game.
I'll place a vote on Jub3r7 because defending humans in a manhunt is a great wolf strategy. Getting behind lynches of them is not. I also give him the credit to wolf Socialfox in the hopes that it causes other people to become more suspicious.
Now the wolf knows who to keep! :(
Wow, you guys aren't very welcoming!
Hakan are you Swedish?
Wow, this game is moving fast. Two things in particular caught my eye upon reading the last few pages through. The first is this:
Quote from: Kman96 on December 22, 2012, 04:10:13 PMGuys, we have to be realistic about this. BDS is undoubtedly the most suspicious player at the moment, and just behind him, I would say TBWCW. The point is that we have (now) 15 humans and one wolf. That's a very small chance that we'll figure out who BOWSER is, let alone if we just lynch someone at random.
Now, I might get my head bit off for this, but we can't be afraid to lynch someone if they turn out to be human. By doing the easy math, the chances of finding out BOWSER would grow exponentially by the loss of humans. Personally, I would be totally willing to let myself be lynched to prove both my point and my humanity.
Now, here's where I'm conflicted. If I were to switch my vote to BDS, I might be framed as a wolf, whereas switching my vote to myself would be just as dangerous, seeing as how I have 3(2?) Already.so for now, I'm removing my vote.
kman sounds like a reasonable guy, which means that he should know how detrimental to the human team the lynching of a human would be (we get at most four lynches, after all). I'm wracking my brain to think of why he would say something like this as a human. Yes, his dying would confirm him as human, meaning we could trust his suspicions, but he'd be a far better advocate for them alive than he would be dead. This seems like a post designed only to try to make him look human. My approach to TWG has always been that "humanity will out"--if you just play rationally, intelligently, and consistently as a human, people will respond to that and, generally speaking, not push lynches of you. Perhaps things are different on NSM, but my read is that kman is overcompensating here, trying to make himself look human instead of trying to find wolves.
Speaking of trying to make oneself look human...
Quote from: the_last_sheikah on December 22, 2012, 08:14:15 PMFunny how they are the ones most suspicious of you ::)
I agree with kman's logic about the exponential growth of finding the wolf as more humans die. We can't avoid the switch deaths, but for lynches, for now we need to keep people with level/logical heads. BDS, your head is askew and you are causing more controversy and confusion than necessary. If you are the wolf, this could be the shortest game ever, of all time. If not, the wolf is probably thriving on this chaos as means to stay hidden.
Also lets not forget that with only one wolf, Bird could be the wolf and just toying with our mind to see how we respond under pressure. If so, I applaud you for using the idea in a better manner than the last time they did this in TWG XXIII. If not, I'm paranoid and this will be considered funny.
P.S.NINJA'D X4!!!
P.P.S. X5!!!
sheikah is obviously a competent player, but this post is almost completely devoid of content. I'm not sure if that last paragraph is a joke, but I know Bird and he would not fake us out like that, period. The suggestion he would is either grossly irrational or deliberate obfuscation. The suggestion that we keep people with "level/logical heads" seems like an attempt to build human capital for himself; sheikah clearly is someone of the sort and identifies himself as such. I agree with his point about wolves "thriving on chaos"--it's the one contribution his post really offers. But the obvious approach there is not to lynch distractions (Slippery Slope Logical Fallacy Warning: we do that four times and we lose!) but to try and calm the likes of BDS and TBWCW down. We can reduce the chaos without lynching a player just because he's being a distracting human. In my experience, players who go nuts Day 1 are seldom wolves and often, when left alive, calm down and end up looking really human.
So my vote is for
sheikah, though I would also support a kman lynch. You guys obviously know BDS a lot better than I do, but I really don't think he looks wolfy at this point--just overzealous, as does TBWCW. Either way, keeping them around another couple phases can't hurt for observational purposes.
Final note: what's with the self-voting? Is that allowed? How could that ever be a viable strategy? Be forewarned: anyone who self-votes will shoot up my suspicion list. That's a great way to avoid making any contribution to the game whatsoever.
safety on Dude because I just woke up from a two day rest
Quote from: vermilionvermin on December 23, 2012, 02:13:51 AMWhat I think is more important is the wolfing. The Socialfox wolfing is weird and absolutely should be analyzed. As a wolf, I know I avoid wolfing players who are new or haven't played recently if it's possible. It's no secret that Socialfox has been banned from the last game. Those who are most likely to have wolfed him are those who were angry with him, those who want to frame the people who were angry with him, and people who don't look at previous games when choosing wolfings. If we're basing it solely on where there's the most conflict between people, Waddle is the most wolfy. If we're basing it off framing, there are quite a few people who are candidates. I don't really know what factors people consider when choosing a wolfing, but I do know I was wolfed Night 1 three games in a row at one point, and people who were wolves in that span (Kman and Dude are the only two in this game) I think wouldn't mind wolfing someone who had been unable to play the previous game.
I dont think its a wolf getting revenge on social. I said this before, but social was the one telling us to be wary of our lynchings because of the many deaths in the day phases. I know if I was a wolf I would have chose him, since he wasnt exactly a power-player or a new player, but was thinking beyond the phase logically (except that I panic when I have a special power and use it randomly most of the time :P)
And Im going to ask this now so in later games Im not suspicious, but why is it a strategy to wolf the least experienced player? Wouldnt you want all the good players dead so the rest cant figure out who the wolf is?
Here's what I think: In this game, because there's only one wolf, it's way too easy for the wolf to just fade into the background and not post at all, completely flying under the radar and only posting to either safety/bandwagon, and pick a switch. The good news is that I've been seeing a lot of great activity in this game. There's a much lower percentage of inactive players than I've seen in the past. Which is awesome. However, while Jub is not completely inactive, I haven't really seen any helpful posts from him at all in this day phase. Only one to pick a switch and safety on Bubbles, and then one to say that "BDS might not be a wolf...".
BDS, while you're still acting a little strange, now that I've thought about it more, you don't seem to be defending your position extremely zealously. What I mean by that is that while you did make a few lengthy posts to defend yourself, you're not completely pleading with us not to lynch you in any way possible, which I think BOWSER would do, because he knows that he's the only one, and if he gets lynched, he loses, rather than if he gets lynched, his 2 partners have to continue on without him.
Quote from: blueflower999 on December 23, 2012, 09:06:01 AMHere's what I think: In this game, because there's only one wolf, it's way too easy for the wolf to just fade into the background and not post at all, completely flying under the radar and only posting to either safety/bandwagon, and pick a switch. The good news is that I've been seeing a lot of great activity in this game. There's a much lower percentage of inactive players than I've seen in the past. Which is awesome. However, while Jub is not completely inactive, I haven't really seen any helpful posts from him at all in this day phase. Only one to pick a switch and safety on Bubbles, and then one to say that "BDS might not be a wolf...".
BDS, while you're still acting a little strange, now that I've thought about it more, you don't seem to be defending your position extremely zealously. What I mean by that is that while you did make a few lengthy posts to defend yourself, you're not completely pleading with us not to lynch you in any way possible, which I think BOWSER would do, because he knows that he's the only one, and if he gets lynched, he loses, rather than if he gets lynched, his 2 partners have to continue on without him.
^^agreed, however, Mashi is in a similar situation.
Neither of those two hooligans have posted much of anything of value, and I feel as if we should look into that...
^Ooh, you're right. See, I'm used to TWGs with 12-14 people, so one with 17 is a little harder for me to keep track of everyone.
Mashi is usually a lot more helpful to the overall game strategy than this, and it looks like people like Verm are taking over.
Quote from: vermilionvermin on December 23, 2012, 02:13:51 AMWhat I think is more important is the wolfing. The Socialfox wolfing is weird and absolutely should be analyzed. As a wolf, I know I avoid wolfing players who are new or haven't played recently if it's possible. It's no secret that Socialfox has been banned from the last game. Those who are most likely to have wolfed him are those who were angry with him, those who want to frame the people who were angry with him, and people who don't look at previous games when choosing wolfings. If we're basing it solely on where there's the most conflict between people, Waddle is the most wolfy. If we're basing it off framing, there are quite a few people who are candidates. I don't really know what factors people consider when choosing a wolfing, but I do know I was wolfed Night 1 three games in a row at one point, and people who were wolves in that span (Kman and Dude are the only two in this game) I think wouldn't mind wolfing someone who had been unable to play the previous game.
I'll place a vote on Jub3r7 because defending humans in a manhunt is a great wolf strategy. Getting behind lynches of them is not. I also give him the credit to wolf Socialfox in the hopes that it causes other people to become more suspicious.
I have something to admit. When I'm a wolf, I (usually) try to make my wolfings fairly random and not so much based on past games.
And based on all this speculation that it's causing, I don't think this wolfing sounds very random, to be honest.
And yeah, I've actually been pretty inactive so far.
I'm not trying to stay under the radar or anything but this is only my 3rd post and 12 pages have already gone by.
Quote from: Hakan on December 23, 2012, 05:25:06 AMWow, you guys aren't very welcoming!
I'm sorry! Welcome to the forums!
If you go anywhere else besides the twg subforum, you'll find that we're a lot less hostile. XD
^no. I'm always this hostile >:(
Quote from: Jub3r7 on December 23, 2012, 12:32:13 PMIf you go anywhere else besides the twg subforum, you'll find that we're a lot less hostile. XD
True, true.
But I suppose we better introduce the "newer" players and help them help us find the wolf.
Quote from: K-NiGhT on December 23, 2012, 12:35:33 PM^no. I'm always this hostile >:(
xD funny, seeing how you haven't been very hostile this game xDDD
Hmm, activity seems to drastically increase as the number of LLF Players increases even if they've only made contributions a bit later than NSMers. Interesting...
But guys, don't make me look bad in front of my friends!!! :( I do a good enough job of that at LLF already!
And in response to my absence, I was hanging out with Ruto and Saria for all of yesterday, so...!
I feel that TheBoyWhoCriedWolf's reasoning for voting BlackDragonSlayer are a bit too farfetched. Perhaps he's overzealous, as Thiannon stated, but I'm not too sure. I'll place a tentative vote on him for now, but I'll be in the chat and the vote will be likely to change once I scrutinise the topic. Thiannon is still at the top of my suspicion list, however!!!
TheBoyWhoCriedWolf
Seeing as how I'm more believing of BDS' claim, i did state that i was secondly suspicious of Boy. Thanks to Mashi's point, I think I'd be interested in a TBWCW lynch.
Discussion?
Confession, I joined NSM way before 90% of you did! In fact, I have some really old submissions to the site. If you can figure out who I am, you're not a wolf.
That being said, I can see where the Toby accusations are coming from (I call TBWCW Toby). But my vote shall remain on Kman96 to avoid a bandwagon.
Quote from: Hakan on December 23, 2012, 03:23:14 PMConfession, I joined NSM way before 90% of you did! In fact, I have some really old submissions to the site. If you can figure out who I am, you're not a wolf.
Why wouldn't you use that old account, then?
This is more fun.
Quote from: Hakan on December 23, 2012, 03:23:14 PMConfession, I joined NSM way before 90% of you did! In fact, I have some really old submissions to the site. If you can figure out who I am, you're not a wolf.
That being said, I can see where the Toby accusations are coming from (I call TBWCW Toby). But my vote shall remain on Kman96 to avoid a bandwagon.
I KNOW WHO YOU ARE
*turns into ashes again*
Quote from: Hakan on December 23, 2012, 03:23:14 PMConfession, I joined NSM way before 90% of you did! In fact, I have some really old submissions to the site. If you can figure out who I am, you're not a wolf.
That's not very good logic. :-\
Actually, Hakan, by that logic, you're a wolf, as you would certainly know your other account.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on December 23, 2012, 03:35:59 PMActually, Hakan, by that logic, you're a wolf, as you would certainly know your other account.
actually you read my post wrong.
I know Hakan. :)
But how does knowing who Hakan is make somebody not-a-wolf?
This is a weird conversation! ;D
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on December 23, 2012, 03:57:40 PMBut how does knowing who Hakan is make somebody not-a-wolf?
http://dictionary.com/definition/joke/?linkId=ibc5yn
Quote from: Hakan on December 23, 2012, 03:23:14 PMConfession, I joined NSM way before 90% of you did! In fact, I have some really old submissions to the site. If you can figure out who I am, you're not a wolf.
Kotor?
hakan the link doesnt work
HUGGIE?
Quote from: Hakan on December 23, 2012, 04:10:36 PMclose but no beans!
iDOWN?
AND I SWEAR I'LL STOP POSTING AFTER THIS.
You're getting warmer but still no! (And no I'm not SexyBeastBirdo)
Also SocialFox should stop breaking the rules.
Also we should stop with the guessing game.
Umm.
Jake?
Nope
I know you're not sauce cuz that's bird.
Ummmmmmm
Qew?
Nope. Getting colder. You were closer when you said Hugo. C'MON DUDE I THOUGHT WE WERE BROS.
Sara?
Lol now you're just digging too deep. You said Hugo, koror, qew, and Sauce. There is only one other person part of that immediate clique.
Homie?
OH WAIT CLARINETANDREW
Quote from: Hakan on December 23, 2012, 04:07:43 PMhttp://dictionary.com/definition/joke/?linkId=ibc5yn
I can tell you that that is not a joke (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/joke). :P
I bet Hakan is Dude
...Dude you're so bad at this.
nuh uh I'm just drunk.
DOWN a drink for me!
I got nothin.
IDOWN
I ignored SocialFox because he's dead. But gj
Quote from: Hakan on December 23, 2012, 04:51:05 PMI ignored SocialFox because he's dead. But gj
-__-
Anyway...
People shouldn't be ignoring Kman. Thiannon's post about it has got me thinking that he could be a wolf, especially given Kman's later post. In this post (http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=5125.msg183676#msg183676) he says he's willing to be lynched so that his suspicions are confirmed as coming from a human. Then later, when a bandwagon begins to form against TBWCW, he changes his vote from himself to TBWCW. I don't like the fact that he says he's willing to lynch himself to prove his humanity (and votes for himself too!) but later changes his vote to TBWCW. There's also the fact that he says he's afraid to switch his vote to BDS because it will make him look like a wolf if he does. I think Kman's aware that, in the past, giving oneself up for a lynch has been a good way to avoid being lynched.
Socialfox ruins the fun!
So Hakan, you got a knife in that head of hair? Few guys I just wanna chop up.
hey toby what do you think of kman
Quote from: vermilionvermin on December 23, 2012, 05:21:40 PMPeople shouldn't be ignoring Kman. Thiannon's post about it has got me thinking that he could be a wolf, especially given Kman's later post. In this post (http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=5125.msg183676#msg183676) he says he's willing to be lynched so that his suspicions are confirmed as coming from a human. Then later, when a bandwagon begins to form against TBWCW, he changes his vote from himself to TBWCW. I don't like the fact that he says he's willing to lynch himself to prove his humanity (and votes for himself too!) but later changes his vote to TBWCW. There's also the fact that he says he's afraid to switch his vote to BDS because it will make him look like a wolf if he does. I think Kman's aware that, in the past, giving oneself up for a lynch has been a good way to avoid being lynched.
I
am aware of that, Verm. That is why I'm willing to sacrifice myself for the human team so that they'd have a higher chance of discovering BOWSER. However, since you seem to have a problem with me being curious about a certain lynch, I suppose it wouldn't make a difference if
I were to go down instead.
gg, humans. Stay strong.
Quote from: Kman96 on December 23, 2012, 05:36:19 PMI
Is that a vote for yourself? ::)
And I think Verm is right.
Kman
Verm, I wasn't too bothered about him to be honest, but this post here strikes me as unusual! ^
Still for a BDS lynch though, I mean he's racist only slaying black dragons :(!
Oh oh oh! Ninja'd!!!! (Never done that before)
So I admit, my bandwagoning of Mashi on TBWCW wasn't very smart, but I would like to see the outcome of his lynch. With me, you won't gain anything but a loss of a brain as well as a human. The game will continue.
I wanna be mad, but I can't, because I said that I'd be willing to sacrifice myself for the human team. Good luck guys, and keep an eye on verm...
Quote from: blueflower999 on December 23, 2012, 05:44:07 PMIs that a vote for yourself? ::)
yes, it was.
That post just won me over, congrats! kman .
I would have said it but you kindly said it yourself, your trying to resist the lynch even though you said your willing to sacrafice yourself.
We'll get BDS next time guys!!
I hope..
..Well if there is a next time :P
This is Minecraft all over again... :-[
Grr, BDS or Kman?!
(And wolf, you should keep me so I can push BDS lynch, okay? :))
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on December 23, 2012, 05:58:37 PMGrr, BDS or Kman?!
(And wolf, you should keep me so I can push BDS lynch, okay? :))
Where do you find these smilies XD
Quote from: SocialFox on December 23, 2012, 04:12:09 PMiDOWN?
AND I SWEAR I'LL STOP POSTING AFTER THIS.
Jesus dude, it seems like you would have learned after the other TWG players unionized for the sole purpose of preventing you from playing games. But since you didn't this is your last warning before an actual punishment is put in place.
Dead players may not post (unless, of course, it's a death post).It's almost worse since all of those posts could have been made in the TWG Suggestions, Comments, and Questions thread with no harm done!
Anyway, here's the current vote count. You guys didn't make it easy, so correct me if there's any errors:
Dude - Dude
Bubbles789898879879879 - BlackDragonSlayer
Kman96 -
Mashi Kman96 The Boy Who Cried Wolf Kman96
vermilionvermin -
Jub3r7 Kman96
shadowkirby -
shadowkirby BlackDragonSlayer
SlowPokemon -
K-NiGhT The Boy Who Cried Wolf BlackDragonSlayer
BlackDragonSlayer - Kman96
Mashi - The Boy Who Cried Wolf
blueflower999 -
Hakan BlackDragonSlayer Jub3r7 Kman96
K-NiGhT - BlackDragonSlayer
Thiannon - the_last_sheikah
Waddle Bro -
Kman96 Waddle Bro The Boy Who Cried Wolf
The Boy Who Cried Wolf -
BlackDragonSlayer Kman96
Hakan -
Kman96 Kman96
the_last_sheikah - BlackDragonSlayer
Jub3r7 - Bubbles6897
Which leaves...
6 Votes - Kman96 (Kma96, vermilionvermin, BlackDragonSlayer, blueflower999, The Boy Who Cried Wolf, Hakan)
5 Votes - BlackDragonSlayer (Bubbles####, shadowkirby, SlowPokemon, k-NiGhT, the_last_sheikah)
2 Votes - The Boy Who Cried Wolf (Mashi, Waddle Bro)
1 Vote - Dude (Dude)
1 Vote - Bubbles#### (Jub3r7)
1 Vote - the_last_sheikah (Thiannon)
About 47 minutes left in the phase everyone!
BDS! He's mine!
And bubbles, I make them up!! :)) ^-^
BDS
^51 seconds to spare. :P
If I didn't convince you about Kman being a wolf his last post should.
Quote from: vermilionvermin on December 23, 2012, 07:01:18 PMIf I didn't convince you about Kman being a wolf his last post should.
How?
I know I'm a human. But I don't know about BDS. That is my reasoning.
He would have died even if I hadn't made my vote, but I wanted to be sure, so I waited until the last moment.
You may not believe me now, but as humans we need to decide what to do next phase once we learn who the switch victim is.
victims*
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on December 23, 2012, 07:04:40 PMvictims*
...but I thought there was only one exploding switch?
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on December 23, 2012, 05:47:43 PMStill for a BDS lynch though, I mean he's racist only slaying black dragons :(!
I slay red and green dragons too, depending on whether or not they're the kind that eventually become black dragons.
Quote from: Kman96 on December 23, 2012, 07:04:10 PMI know I'm a human. But I don't know about BDS. That is my reasoning.
...remember my suspicions. :P
Kman, even if his role isn't a wolf, is certainly playing as one. He goes out of his way to make posts that seem human. Saying that he's willing to get himself lynched is a "human" thing to say. He says he's willing to get lynched so his suspicions are confirmed as human. He even votes for himself to prove that point. Then, bird posts a vote count which shows his vote matters, and suddenly he decides to unvote himself and vote for BDS, who he said he didn't think was very suspicious before and had the second-most votes.
Quote from: Kman96 on December 23, 2012, 07:06:06 PM...but I thought there was only one exploding switch?
Quote from: Bird on December 20, 2012, 06:39:28 PMFinally, the first four day phases have 2 exploding switches. That's right, DOUBLE BLASTING FOR THE FIRST FOUR DAYS.
Thats why Im trying to say the wolf had a reason to wolf social, but no one is listening >:(
What reason would that be and who does it indicate is a wolf?
Ah! I'm sticking with BDS for now!
Quote from: vermilionvermin on December 23, 2012, 07:08:21 PMKman, even if his role isn't a wolf, is certainly playing as one. He goes out of his way to make posts that seem human. Saying that he's willing to get himself lynched is a "human" thing to say. He says he's willing to get lynched so his suspicions are confirmed as human. He even votes for himself to prove that point. Then, bird posts a vote count which shows his vote matters, and suddenly he decides to unvote himself and vote for BDS, who he said he didn't think was very suspicious before and had the second-most votes.
Verm, you know as well as I how bad I am as a human. If playing as a wolf while I'm human helps me get my point across so be it. Besides, I haven't played in months, granted that's no excuse, but still. My human game is no more perfected than it was when I left.
My methods are unorthodox, yes, but you are also not counting TBWCW, who posted the vote that actually killed BDS. I simply posted mine to make sure of the lynch. If I wouldn't be able to see the result of a TBWCW lynch, a BDS one wouldn't hurt, either.
I'm slightly hoping I get wolfed this phase, in any case.
One last piece of advice before the phase ends (or has it already?):
If the wolf was active before the discussion started, would it make sense if the wolf would cower back into inactivity, hoping to avoid exposing themselves as a wolf? Or would the wolf stay active in fear of people noticing them?
Does that mean the wolf should be active or inactive
I'm confused
I switched because I though most votes where on you, when I saw that my vote changed things I decided to go with my instinct and switch back to BDS. You just seemed like you wanted to follow.
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on December 23, 2012, 07:18:35 PMOne last piece of advice before the phase ends (or has it already?):
If the wolf was active before the discussion started, would it make sense if the wolf would cower back into inactivity, hoping to avoid exposing themselves as a wolf? Or would the wolf stay active in fear of people noticing them?
I would guess that the wolf would remain as under-the-radar as possible, while still picking switches and staying alive.
Quote from: vermilionvermin on December 23, 2012, 07:10:52 PMWhat reason would that be and who does it indicate is a wolf?
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on December 21, 2012, 09:05:41 PMAnd stop voting so quickly unless its a safety. Why does Kman already have 2 votes -.- Did anyone even consider that the person who got wolfed was the one telling us to choose our lynching targets carefully?
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on December 23, 2012, 07:59:21 AMI dont think its a wolf getting revenge on social. I said this before, but social was the one telling us to be wary of our lynchings because of the many deaths in the day phases. I know if I was a wolf I would have chose him, since he wasnt exactly a power-player or a new player, but was thinking beyond the phase logically (except that I panic when I have a special power and use it randomly most of the time :P)
Not really a strong argument but hey its something
Late update!
BlackDragonSlayer was killed! Then two people exploded for picking the dastardly which/witch homonyms. BLASTED!!
It is now Night 2. Night 2 ends tomorrow at 9:00 PM MOUNTAIN TIME.
1. SocialFox
2. Dude
3. Bubbles789898879879879878
4. Kman96
5. vermilionvermin
6. shadowkirby
7. SlowPokemon
8. BlackDragonSlayer
9. Mashi
10. blueflower999
11. K-NiGhT
12. Thiannon
13. Waddle Bro
14. The Boy Who Cried Wolf
15. Hakan
16. the_last_sheikah
17. Jub3r7
Bird, I have a question. Are the exploding switches randomly chosen as well, or do they usually have something in common (like the homonyms)h
Oh, come on, guys. That was a crappy cop-out lynch. A bunch of players on LLF seem to play only to look good in the post-game; I was hoping you guys here would do a little better. It seemed like the momentum was shifting away from BDS; what happened? Admittedly, I'm as much to blame as anyone else. I was planning to get on before phase end but I got caught up in last-minute Christmas shopping.
I forgot to mention it this morning, but one strategy that has worked really well for the humans on LLF has been the posting of "suspicion lists". I'm not sure if you guys do that here, but I think it's a worthwhile endeavour, even for a manhunt. We wouldn't need people to rank everyone (in fact, that would likely be disadvantageous, as it could help inform wolfings), but asking everyone to rank their top three to five suspicions might be a nice way to push activity and to prevent the wolf from simply lying low, bandwagoning, or riding a single suspicion all game.
Finally, Kman, you cannot say you're willing to be lynched to support the human cause and then make an eleventh-hour switch to save yourself. You must understand how extraordinarily wolfy this makes you look. Unless you were far more suspicious of BDS than you let on, you essentially threw his life away in addition to yours, thereby wasting two day phases killing humans. To review, you've essentially adopted two diametrically opposite strategies that are ostensibly beneficial to the humans but in reality are the complete opposite, something I think you're smart enough to recognize. This is the kind of things wolves do.
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on December 23, 2012, 07:33:19 PMBird, I have a question. Are the exploding switches randomly chosen as well, or do they usually have something in common (like the homonyms)h
WHO KNOWS!?!??!?!?!?!?!????!?!?!?!??
How many times do I have to say it?
I didn't make the vote that killed BDS. TBWCW did. If he didn't, I would have. The vote was between me and BDS, him having 5 votes and me having 6. TBWCW switched his vote from me to BDS a good 30 minutes before the phase ended. If no one was going to vote for me to tie it, or switch their vote again, why keep my vote on myself when adding it to BDS wouldn't change a thing? It was a plan I had though of after Bird's initial vote count 47 minutes before phase end, yet was rendered frivolous once TBWCW made his vote. Why are you questioning me for securing a lynch in the last minute that no one had plans to change anyway? Why not question TBWCW as to why he finally chose BDS over me, eh? I couldn't do anything to get myself lunched after that, unless you would hav liked for me to cry, "HEY, I'M TRYING TO BE A HERO OVER BERE, SO WHY DON'T YOU PUT YOUR VOTE BACK ON ME." yeah, no. I'm tired of fighting this issue.
I am not the one who killed BDS.
I can be useful, whether you view me as a wolf or not. So get over it. BDS is dead, and it's not my fault.
Quote from: Kman96 on December 23, 2012, 08:35:45 PMI couldn't do anything to get myself lunched after that,
heh
sorry not sorry
I'd suggest that if you have a suspicion list you should send it to a few people you trust rather than posting it in the thread.
Sheikah, can you respond to Thiannon's post (http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=5125.msg183786#msg183786)?
I was going to suggest a suspicion list for day 2 but oh well.
Kman, I don't think it's the fact that people think your the one who killed BDS, I think it's the fact you changed your voted.
Verm, what's the difference between posting the list here and to someone you trust? I mean right now I think I'm pretty suspicious and as long as the wolf knows I'm near the top, he won't be wolfing me!! Hahah.
Also damn damn damn on BDS being human, sorry guys! :((
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on December 24, 2012, 04:45:09 AMAlso damn damn damn on BDS being human, sorry guys! :((
I told you so
Of course you did, because your always right, aren't you?
*you're
I guess my math was off, then, Kman: I didn't realize that TBWCW's vote was on BDS, and thus his switch initiated a two-vote swing. Nevertheless, you claim that you would have saved yourself if TBWCW hadn't done so for you:
Quote from: Kman96 on December 23, 2012, 08:35:45 PMI didn't make the vote that killed BDS. TBWCW did. If he didn't, I would have.
Also, you claim the following:
Quote from: Kman96 on December 23, 2012, 08:35:45 PMI can be useful, whether you view me as a wolf or not. So get over it. BDS is dead, and it's not my fault.
Despite earlier advocating for your own lynch. If you're useful, why would you offer yourself up for sacrifice? It really looks as if you gambled to try to gain human capital by offering yourself up, then panicked to save yourself when your plan backfired (or worked too well, depending on how you want to look at it).
To be perfectly honest, I think I got hesitant, because this is my first game back after a long hiatus, and I just didn't want to be killed off so soon. A completely stupid reason, yes, but as I stated earlier, what could I have done to prevent the situation?
My main point in that second claim was because I wanted to be viewed as help whether you trusted me or not. That's the point of TWG. To be honest, I've got no reason to trust anyone here. Why should I? This is a manhunt. I've most likely conversed/am conversing with the wolf right now, as have the rest of us.
...
I was about to make a suspicion list. I'm half asleep at the moment so I forgot about Verm's suggestion to hide suspicion lists from the thread. Verm, I think that is a very good idea, and it makes me more believing of you as a human. Why?
A suspicion list is almost like food for whatever wolf looks upon it. Where are they situated on it? Am I doing my job to blend in well enough so they don't notice me? These lists hold the answers to those questions, which is deadly if the wolf ever finds out the answer. By keeping them in check, not letting them know you have them in check, is a great way to catch them off guard.
Now, that's said, as I was saying, Verm suggested not to publicly post your lists. First, because it's night phase and the wolf could just as easily wolf whoever has them highest on his/her suspicion list. Thiannon, I don't know if that was your intention to gain that sort of power through asking for suspicion lists during a night phase, but it sure does make me suspicious of you, especially when your request confused others, like TBWCW, who said,
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on December 24, 2012, 04:45:09 AMI was going to suggest a suspicion list for day 2 but oh well.
As Verm stated, be very aware who you send your suspicion list to. O.O
Quote from: vermilionvermin on December 24, 2012, 12:48:10 AMSheikah, can you respond to Thiannon's post (http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=5125.msg183786#msg183786)?
Because you asked so nicely verm, of course.
1) The part about bird being the wolf was mostly a joke. Still could happen though in my mind.
2) "an attempt to build human capital for himself", did I anywhere imply I wanted to be in charge of or even part of some form of an alliance? I did not.
3) If we dont lynch people like BDS who are making a big show and helping the wolf hide, who do you suggest we lynch? Inactives? That plan never works, ever.
4)How do you want us to "calm them down"? Tell them to stop talking? That's like telling Mashi to not be frivolous.
^Best simile ever
Also don't delete this post it serves as my death post! Yes I get a death post because my death was unexpected!
>.< Should we say who we've received a supsicion list from?
Quote from: SlowPokemon on December 24, 2012, 12:54:03 PM^Best simile ever
Also don't delete this post it serves as my death post! Yes I get a death post because my death was unexpected!
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fl.yimg.com%2Fus.yimg.com%2Fi%2Fmesg%2Femoticons7%2F22.gif&hash=510ab0e422497f8b5c8d588fe26a3605f16a3c7b)
Thiannon was killed! Scrawled next to his corpse were the words "take your complete sentences and leave NEVER kome bACk!1"
It is now Day 2. Day 2 ends the day after tomorrow (Wednesday the 26th) at 9:00 PM MOUNTAIN TIME. As an added bonus, I've decided to help the humans by revealing the number of wolves remaining: 1.
1. SocialFox
2. Dude
3. Bubbles789898879879879878
4. Kman96
5. vermilionvermin
6. shadowkirby
7. SlowPokemon
8. BlackDragonSlayer
9. Mashi
10. blueflower999
11. K-NiGhT
12. Thiannon
13. Waddle Bro
14. The Boy Who Cried Wolf
15. Hakan
16. the_last_sheikah
17. Jub3r7
-------------------
Lupus Switch - the_last_sheikah
Chronic Ugliness Switch - shadowkirby
Elephantitis Switch - Jub3r7
Mad Cow Switch - The Boy Who Cried Wolf
Acne Switch - blueflower999
Herpes Switch - Kman96
Gonorrhea Switch
Syphilis Switch - Hakan
Leprosy Switch
Lice Switch - Dude
Rabies Switch - Bubbles####
Scurvy Switch - vermilionvermin
Ok, im gonna get a jump on this by saying: I think the wolves wolfed Thiannon to try to frame me. I stated in my last post that i was gaining suspicions of Thiannon due to his request that we post suspicion lists.
I cant quite defend myself at this moment any better than i could last day phase.
Oh, and I'll take the Herpes Switch. :3
Chronic Ugliness switch for me, please
Lupus switch, it's never lupus.
Rabies Switch
i'd really like to see what happens with these switches, to prove something I've been thinking...
Scurvy switch. Arr I'm a pirate!
Kman's recent defense has given me doubts. I'll vote for Hakan. He's posted an uncharacteristically high amount of filler, hasn't commented on anything that's going on except for a lukewarm comment about TBWCW, and if I had to attribute the wolfings to one person alive, it'd be him. I could see him killing Socialfox in order to cast suspicion on potential NSM folk, and he's one of the few people in this game who realizes that Thiannon was the most threatening human.
Forgot to add this to the end of my last post: Can we get a Christmas phase extension? I know I won't be active much tomorrow, and I wouldn't be surprised if activity as a whole decreased because of Christmas.
Man, I was really looking forward to the infectious disease round, too. Best of luck, humans, and Merry Christmas!
Acne Switch
^I agree with Verm. A Christmas extension would be nice.
Cancer Switch
I swear I won't post again
I mainly just came here to troll, but that got boring, so you can lynch me if you want!
Also (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages3.wikia.nocookie.net%2F__cb20111016020720%2Fdisney%2Fimages%2F1%2F15%2FPocahontas_I_Love_You_John.jpg&hash=a15107dc83c30e26faebf3c5e23f8e6480aeb94a) switch
If you don't get it, Pocahontas dies of syphilis.
Sorry for the Pocahontas 3 spoilers!
Bird can I take over Hakan's role? It seems that he doesn't want to play.
mad cow switch
Elephantitis switch?
Lice Switch
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on December 25, 2012, 06:05:03 AMI swear I won't post again
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on December 25, 2012, 06:45:13 AMBird can I take over Hakan's role? It seems that he doesn't want to play.
Is it really that hard to follow the rules? If you aren't in the game
do not post. If Hakan wants to quit, I'm sure he'll say something. This could have been PM'd to me or posted in the TWG Discussion thread.
I love how Jub changes his avatar like twice a day now.
Hakan is already at the top of my suspicion list for not helping too much.
He doesnt...
And from what Ive skimmed between dinner and presents, it seems like everyone is just agreeing with verm. So I wont :P just yet
Uh... why is nobody discussing anything...?
Come on, guys, be active. The wolf thrives on inactivity.
Kman for reasons stated before.
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on December 25, 2012, 04:18:31 PMI love how Jub changes his avatar like twice a day now.
Does this mean you only look at my avatar twice a day??
??
Try refreshing the page!!!! (If it's not changing every time, your browser is lame.)
Quote from: Jub3r7 on December 26, 2012, 01:32:35 PMDoes this mean you only look at my avatar twice a day?? ??
Try refreshing the page!!!! (If it's not changing every time, your browser is lame.)
BTW, Jub, how do you do that? And how many different Pokemon do you have in there?! :o
1. Magic
2. 251 and counting (I have to upload them one at a time. D:)
I'm really sorry, but I am simply super busy this holiday, so I can't be as active as I hoped I would. :( I discussed with FSM and I hope that he would take over for me. He's fine with that.
I'll send a PM to Bird to make sure that he won't get a reason to complain.
I'm sorry, but it's best for the humans. :(
Out
Ninja'd he has a link in that picture that automatically connects to a randomizer that changes the picture every time you go to a different page.
Quote from: Waddle Bro on December 26, 2012, 01:38:46 PMNinja'd he has a link in that picture that is magic
fixed
Quote from: Waddle Bro on December 26, 2012, 01:38:46 PMI'm really sorry, but I am simply super busy this holiday, so I can't be as active as I hoped I would. :( I discussed with FSM and I hope that he would take over for me. He's fine with that.
I'll send a PM to Bird to make sure that he won't get a reason to complain.
I'm sorry, but it's best for the humans. :(
Out
Ninja'd he has a link in that picture that automatically connects to a randomizer that changes the picture every time you go to a different page.
Sure thing. I'll replace your name with his on the lists.
So. I have no idea am I a wolf or a human. :-\
Get Waddle to forward Bird's pm to you, or ask bird to resend it
Have fun reading the entire thread up till now :P
But he's sleeping and phase will end soon! :<
I have granted a phase extension, due to a bad case of CHRISTMAS GENEROSITY. Also due to excessive whining.
Day ends tomorrow at 9:00 PM Mountain Time.
TBWCW, what happened to Kman being the next most suspicious?
Leprosy Switch
And I vote for Liggy, because he is the wolf.
I have to say, I don't see any holes in fsm's logic.
Voting liggy as well.
wait what? liggy is playing?
i must have missed it
safety on shadowkirby
I voted Hakan to see how he acted with it, he passed the test.
verm , you seem to be acting a little wolfy, just how I'd think somone as good as you would act if they were a wolf. Your being very observent and cautious and as you said not many people know how much of a dangerous human Thiannon was, your one of the ones that know.
Correct me if I'm wrong but you seem to be asking a few people direct questions and you don't usually do this..
You've went for a lynch on Hakan, true he isn't helping much, true he knows about Thiannon, but I don't think Hakan would REALLY behave like this if he was a wolf, he'd know it would be pulled up on and you thought you could get an easy lynch with this? Why not vote Mashi? He knows about Hakan and he's being pretty quiet.. Why not vote Dude? He knows about Thiannon.. Nah, you went for in my opinion, the easy lynch.
I don't have a strong case against you but I think it's stronger than what is on Hakan, and that's all I need.
"passed the test"? Meaning he didnt say anything for or against himself, or anything at all? Explain what this "test" was
Dude(TBWCW). You're the one who's acting wolfy. I have no suspicions over Verm, all he has done so far was helping us.
I admit, I see why I was acting Wolfy, I leaded a lynch on BDS strongly but he was human.
I mean that by Hakan, I just don't find him being wolfy.
You still are. I have no reason to suspect Verm.
That's nice, have you even read the thread?
Yeah. You're really starting to piss me off by your sassing. I thought this is a game where we are supposed to have fun. :<
TBWCW because we can lynch Liggy later.
Liggy isn't even playing.
And your pissing me off, haven't you noticed?
Liggy must die
How have I pissed you off?
safety on sheikah
Safety on Mashi, because he hasn't posted in a while. (not a suspicion)
I told him to pick a switch so he wouldn't die. :<
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on December 26, 2012, 07:19:20 PM"passed the test"? Meaning he didnt say anything for or against himself, or anything at all? Explain what this "test" was
TBWCW Im still waiting for an answer
Safety on
Bubbles for now
Quote from: Bird on December 24, 2012, 07:57:35 PMAs an added bonus, I've decided to help the humans by revealing the number of wolves remaining: 1.[/b]
heh I didnt see this before
Sorry bubbles, I mean I just didn't find him wolfy, didn't bother him, his excuse was fine.
I had a brief chat with Mashi. Here is what came of it. His internet cut out somewhere in between the last two things I said, so we never got to finish it. This occurred yesterday I think.
Quote15:52 Nighthawk are you there vera?
15:57 Vera I am now.
15:57 Vera I'm doing terrible being active.
15:57 Nighthawk dont forget your switch
15:58 Vera Should I just vote iDOWN with you???
15:58 Nighthawk also i need someone to talk to about iclown
15:58 Nighthawk idk
15:58 Vera I would prefer TheBoyWhoCriedWolf or Kman96, to be honest.
15:59 Nighthawk i don't understand why he's still playing if he is ok with being lynched
15:59 Vera I feel that iDOWN would like to troll more if he were a Wolf.
15:59 Nighthawk but he is trolling?!
15:59 Vera Troll even more, I mean.
15:59 Nighthawk okay
15:59 Nighthawk why do you want to lunch tbwcw
16:00 Vera Didn't he make a post saying something like he was dropping out and lynch me or something?
16:00 Vera I still feel he was too resolved on the BlackDragonSlayer lynch.
16:00 Nighthawk he said we could lynch him if we wanted
16:00 Vera What is with these Humans being like this!
16:00 Nighthawk I still think there are too many problems with either tbwcw of kman being a wolf
16:00 Nighthawk kman made this one post that seemed super genuine
16:01 Nighthawk and i don't think resolution = wolfiness!
16:01 Vera I feel his resolution was a bit too strong if he were Human, but I recognise your point.
16:01 Nighthawk wasn't he the one that switched back to BDS at the last second/
16:02 Nighthawk ?
16:02 Nighthawk also we got a faze extension
16:02 Vera Yaaay.
16:02 Vera I don't think he voted in the first place before that.
16:03 Nighthawk though i do think you have a point
16:03 Nighthawk I could see TBWCW being the wolf though
16:04 Nighthawk it's weird how he just went with my iDOWN suspicon
16:06 Nighthawk tbwcw had his vote on kman and then switched to BDS
16:06 Nighthawk I feel like if he's a wolf he's trying to maximize the people he could lynch
Summary of this chat is that I'm not sure why Hakan didn't give his spot up if he didn't feel like playing. I'm not sure if he ever saw FSM saying that he wanted his spot, so that tempers my suspicion of him. The vote for him was part telling him to get his act together and part legitimate suspicion. He's distanced enough from NSM to not be one of the first names tossed around from a Socialfox wolfing, but he knew that Socialfox had been banned at NSM and as a result would probably have a few people still annoyed with him. At this point, I guess he's probably not a wolf because if he were I doubt he'd have given up like this.
I was, and still am a little bit, suspicious of TBWCW because of his vote for BlackDragonSlayer late in the phase. He was originally on Kman, someone who I think is still very lynchable. Given the lack of support for the BDS lynch, it was clear that it would have been difficult from a wolf's perspective to lynch him later. This was why I was curious about TBWCW's suspicion of Kman.
Mashi and Dude were and still are suspicious, but less so than Hakan.
With that said, I'm going to have to vote for someone today. This feels a little bit like a cop-out lynch because it's
Shadowkirby, but hear me out. Here (http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=5125.msg183539#msg183539) are (http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=5125.msg183543#msg183543) all (http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=5125.msg183544#msg183544) of (http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=5125.msg183623#msg183623) Shadowkirby's (http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=5125.msg183627#msg183627) posts (http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=5125.msg183710#msg183710) during (http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=5125.msg183720#msg183720) Day (http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=5125.msg183890#msg183890) 1 (http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=5125.msg183965#msg183965). He makes a few votes, but never explains any of them and never gives any commentary on another player. The closest he gets to saying something is when he asks Bubbles whether the wolf should be active or inactive. Keep in mind that Shadowkirby is historically the least active player on the site. He made 9 posts on Day 1 and said nothing in any of them. Not only that, but he even says that "this is the most active I've ever been!" I think the fact that he's made a concerted effort to be "active" without actually saying anything of note is suspicious.
Quote from: vermilionvermin on December 27, 2012, 06:12:08 PMThe closest he gets to saying something is when he asks Bubbles whether the wolf should be active or inactive.
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Whoops that was directed at me? I dont think I answered :P
Sorry for being terrible. :(
TheBoyWhoCriedWolf was my top suspicion and nothing major seems to have occurred that would change that. I'm not entirely confident about this, but it's all I have for my inactivity. Siiigh.
I really am sorry for my inactivity though, everyone.
TBWCW is fine.
But I'm pretty sure liggy is the wolf.
Jub, what are your thoughts on the TBWCW lynch?
TBWCW thought I was constantly changing my avatar
Hang on, let me read some of his posts again and I'll tell you what I think.
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on December 21, 2012, 07:09:31 PMI'm most suspicious of Waddle, BDS, Kman and little bit of Shadowkirby, he's being active!!
I think a wolf would probably narrow it down more.
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on December 22, 2012, 05:55:03 AMI highly suggest a BDS lynch right now, he's said a lot of silly things that HE THINKS could add up to make him human, on my phone so quoting will be hard but from memory things like this:
"Haha BOWSER, you'll never catch me with phantoms!"
"If I were bowser and mean, I'd choose the exploding switch"
"If I were a wolf I would be sensible...."
And if you re-read the first 5 pages as I was doing yesterday, you'll see how noob-like, over-active, and different he is playing.
(No offence if your actually human)
Eh, his posts questioning people directly seem sincere and I'm not all for this lynch.
We have... 18 minutes left? Are you on irc?
What was the server/channel name again?
Quote from: Hakan on December 20, 2012, 07:49:03 PMim bowser whats your name
Hakan/iDown seems like the type to be completely serious about this and pretend to be joking!!!
Also I don't want to get a phantom from voting a player who isn't actually playing so yeah.
Leprosy Switch, also.
Kman96
Counting votes now.
discussed in chat
kman
Quote[19:52] == Nighthawk [webchat@76-253-10-57.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #twgjubmashi
[19:52] == mode/#twgjubmashi [+nt] by webchat.esper.net
[19:52] == Vera [Mibbit@ool-18e42a66.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #twgjubmashi
[19:52] <Nighthawk> i just sent this to jub
[19:52] == Jub [webchat@208.65.88.160] has joined #twgjubmashi
[19:52] <Nighthawk> all right
[19:52] <Jub> hi lover
[19:52] <Jub> okay we have 8 minutes left
[19:52] <Nighthawk> i think we should discuss shadowkirby, tbwcw, kman, and idown
[19:53] <Jub> So I think tbwcw's posts directed towards specific people is sincere
[19:53] <Jub> And gut instinct says iDown is a wolf but I want to check again
[19:53] <Jub> because gut usually isn't good enough
[19:53] <Nighthawk> my gut tells me not to lynch tbwcw at this point
[19:53] <Jub> http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=3489
[19:54] <Nighthawk> any thoughts?
[19:54] <Jub> Also I can't tell the difference between gut instinct saying he is a wolf and subconsciousness not liking a person
[19:54] <Nighthawk> 5 minutes
[19:55] <Nighthawk> i'm fine with lynching any of the four, but gut instinct is saying kman or idown right now
[19:55] <Jub> Remind me what kman did earlier on?
[19:55] <Nighthawk> kman had a lot of chances to defend himself before he made that one where he made a few concessions
[19:56] <Nighthawk> he said he'd be ok with being lynched
[19:56] <Nighthawk> but didn't actually mean it
[19:56] <Nighthawk> and voted for bds right after tbwcw did
[19:56] <Jub> Vera, are you even there?
[19:56] <Jub> Vera
[19:56] <Vera> Yes.
[19:56] <Jub> Okay
[19:56] <Vera> Looking at the topic.
[19:56] <Nighthawk> any thoughts?
[19:57] <Vera> I'm okay with Kman96 or Boy.
[19:57] <Nighthawk> why not idown
[19:57] <Vera> Not sure about iDOWN.
[19:57] <Jub> two and a half minutes
[19:57] <Vera> I feel that iDOWN would be more inclined to troll as a Wolf instead of becoming bored.
[19:57] <Jub> He has been trolling
[19:57] <Jub> and apparently he got bored of it
[19:57] <Nighthawk> It's a little weird that he just isn't sticking around though
[19:58] <Nighthawk> I don't think he'd completely abandon the game like that
[19:58] <Jub> one and a half
[19:58] <Jub> Should we just vote kman or idown or what?
[19:58] <Nighthawk> Let's just go with kman
[19:58] <Nighthawk> i don't want a kitb
[19:58] <Jub> alright, kman it is
[19:58] <Vera> All right.
[19:59] <Jub> vote now
Kman
Oh. Hello.
...Or, I guess it's goodbye? Probably. Oh well. I was slightly losing interest anyways :/
since it's not official yet, I'll say that Verm and TBWCW are ones to keep an eye on.
It was lupus. Also, Mad Cow! And Kman96 got lynched HARD.
It is now Night 3. Night 3 ends tomorrow (Friday the 28th) at 9:00 PM CENTRAL TIME.
1. SocialFox
2. Dude
3. Bubbles789898879879879878
4. Kman96
5. vermilionvermin
6. shadowkirby
7. SlowPokemon
8. BlackDragonSlayer
9. Mashi
10. blueflower999
11. K-NiGhT
12. Thiannon
13. FSM-Reapr
14. The Boy Who Cried Wolf
15. Hakan
16. the_last_sheikah
17. Jub3r7
Also please refrain from discussing any information about role PMs. This includes the time you received your PM.
Quote from: Bird on December 27, 2012, 08:06:52 PMIt was lupus.
NOOOOOOO!!!! DR. HOUSE WHY HAVE YOU BETRAYED ME!!!
But I know... the truth.... the wolf is... is.....*hurg-BLEGH*
I am dead
Why did you guys kill Kman -.- He almost killed himself earlier
Player Post: Everyone alive should make suspicion lists and send them to the person they put lowest on theirs. We should post these tomorrow.
In order to encourage activity, from here on out, you should list your top three suspicions with a short (or long if you want) explanation of why they're one of your top three when you pick a switch.
Congratulations Bird for making it officially to TWC!
But it's still going to be called TWC and Bird.
Anyways, I'll probably work on my suspicion list when I get back from work. Mother said we'd be leaving 30 minutes ago? :o
I forgot to say that the main reason for sending your suspicion list to someone is that even if you die, someone can post it to the thread. If you got one from a person who's dead you should probably post it!
"Girls shouldn't play TWG!!" said a disembodied and extremely sexist voice which sounded strangely similar to BOWSER.
Then Bubbles got killed!
1. SocialFox
2. Dude
3. Bubbles789898879879879878
4. Kman96
5. vermilionvermin
6. shadowkirby
7. SlowPokemon
8. BlackDragonSlayer
9. Mashi
10. blueflower999
11. K-NiGhT
12. Thiannon
13. FSM-Reapr
14. The Boy Who Cried Wolf
15. Hakan
16. the_last_sheikah
17. Jub3r7
It is now Day 3. Day 3 ends the day after tomorrow (12/30) at 9:00 CST.
-------------------------
Let It Switch
Abbey Switch
Submarine Switch
White Switch
Magical Mystery Switch
Sgt. Pepper's Switch
Revolver Switch
Rubber Switch
Copied from my suspicion list:
1. Hakan: His profile says that he browsed the forum today. I think he might have made some effort as a human. This inactivity feels more like he's trying to uphold the inactive human stereotype than actually being an inactive human.
2. Shadowkirby: If Blueflower's right about the wolf just checking in and picking switches, then it's Shadowkirby. I couldn't find a single thought he's provided on the wolfiness or humanity of another player, but on Day 1 he picked a switch within two hours of the update and on Day 2 he was the second person to pick a switch.
3. Blueflower: Blueflower's done all the "right" things, but something doesn't seem right about him. Yesterday, he "safetied" on the odds-on favorite person to be lynched. Maybe it's a misunderstanding of the word safety, but it's coupled with a spotty level of activity and not really pushing any lynches at all. Look at this post (http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=5125.msg183798#msg183798). It doesn't seem all that suspicious at first glance, but I think it's pretty wolfy. There's a lot of filler in the first paragraph. His vote for Jub is pretty weak and can be applied to quite a few other people in the game. What makes it different from a "Jub you should really be more active" vote is the fact that I'd already voted for him on the page before. Even more suspicious is his defense of BlackDragonSlayer. Because he said he thought BDS might not be a wolf, he gets human points, but he leaves the door open to support for a BDS lynch in the future. I also don't like the fact that he readily supports my accusation of Kman. He just says "I agree with Verm" and votes. And he doesn't even follow the one thing he's been telling us: that the wolf would be inactive and just go through the motions to stay alive. I got through typing this and am just getting a feeling that Blueflower's human. I started with him as my top suspicion, but now he goes to number 3, which is unfortunate because I don't feel good about either of my top 2.
I want Sergeant Pepper's One and Only Lonely Hearts Club Switch
And I forgot to bold Hakan.
Guys I forgot to make a suspicion list! :C I'll make it later today, when I have time!
Quote from: vermilionvermin on December 28, 2012, 08:16:31 PM3. Blueflower: Blueflower's done all the "right" things, but something doesn't seem right about him. Yesterday, he "safetied" on the odds-on favorite person to be lynched.
Are you talking about this (http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=5125.msg184386#msg184386)? Do I even say the word "Safety" at all in the post? Clearly a lot of people were voting for Kman in the previous day phase, but he just barely saved himself by getting BDS lynched instead. I, noticing that nobody was saying anything and that the day phase would end soon, just posted a vote for Kman once again, hoping to remind people that we had a game to play, and just get my vote out there so that I wouldn't forget later.
Quotecoupled with a spotty level of activity
Yes, I'm not being as active as I'd like ideally, but look at my irl situation; I'm moving this January (other posts by me on the forums talk about this too, I'm not making it up), I have a science fair project to do with very high goals, and I have to keep up with stressful high school life in studying for midterms, and writing a paper. I have a lot to freaking do! I'm trying to be as active on NSM as I can and still do all of this, which I think I'm doing a decently good job at. I'm not the MOST inactive player, am I?
QuoteThere's a lot of filler in the first paragraph. His vote for Jub is pretty weak and can be applied to quite a few other people in the game.
What do you mean "Filler"? Me stating the fact that wolves could fly under the radar easily in this game? Well, it's true. I thought I'd just raise that point. And I realize that it could be applied to other people. I just wanted to make an example. What do you expect me to do, vote for 3 or 4 people at once? If Jub was the wolf, I was hoping that my vote for him would encourage some more activity, which would make it easier to analyze him and later determine his humanity or not.
And also, I was by no means "defending" BDS. I was just stating that I wanted to vote for him, but thought that would be unfair because I voted for him numerous times in past games, each of which he turned out to be a human. Therefore, I'm starting to think that I'm just naturally suspicious of his playing style, not of him himself. Does that make sense?
I want the
revolver switch, and I say that we get
shadowkirby to be more active.
I don't have much suspicions :<
1.
Hakan(/iDOWN?): He seems like a very competitive player(if he's in the LLF) who made a strategy of acting like a troll so nobody would take him seriously. That's why he never responded me when I asked could I take over of his role. That's why Bird got so mad at me for posting it on the thread where everybody could see that, because it was all a part of Hakan's plan that I have now ruined.(sowwy)
Also the fact that Bird told us that wolfings can be done by email fits the picture. Anyone else thought that was odd? Hakan might have had no clue how to use the PMs here in NSM, or in LLF they use email instead of PMing. If Hakan plays on more sites than one(like TBWCW) this fits the picture.
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on October 08, 2012, 11:14:03 AMIn
I'm new to this website to be easy on me, going to go read all the roles of this site just now.
email is weemickymafia@gmail.com
This was TBWCW's first post. He gave us his email address, meaning on the other sites do not have PMing.
That was my list, sorry. :<
Oh and Rubber Switch, because ya know, rubber is my best friend, if you know what I mean. ;)
Quote from: FSM-Reapr on December 29, 2012, 08:56:06 AMAlso the fact that Bird told us that wolfings can be done by email fits the picture. Anyone else thought that was odd? Hakan might have had no clue how to use the PMs here in NSM, or in LLF they use email instead of PMing. If Hakan plays on more sites than one(like TBWCW) this fits the picture.This was TBWCW's first post. He gave us his email address, meaning on the other sites do not have PMing.
Uh... No. The main reason Bird told us that the wolf could email him was because of people like YOU stalking Who's Online to see if anyone is sending a message. -_- Any good TWG host, and especially one like Bird, would not post something like that in the thread that could be used against a player like that.
Also, what is this LLF everyone keeps talking about?
I don't stalk anymore. :C and okay
Lemmy's Land Forum
iDown
Revolver Switch
verm, mashi, and hakan are my suspicion list
idk why though ºωº
Don't Insta, everyone. Just want to make sure that no one jumps the gun accidentally or something.
I'm actually in favor of Insta. :< I have to go on the 31st, so I don't want to die because I didn't choose a switch.
Bird there should be a rule that if there is only one switch remaining, the person who didn't choose a switch gets a phantom and has to automatically choose that switch.
yeah guys I'm going for the Let It Switch
I'm too tired beyond that I think that's one of the exploding ones
Jub to avoid an insta
Why we should insta now:
I leave on the evening of 31st, so if we don't insta, I die the next day because I won't be able to choose a switch. That would mean a stupid lose of a human.
If we decide to lynch Hakan, I think we should be able to insta after Jub has chosen a switch.
I'd rather lynch Shadowkirby than Hakan at this point. It looks like Hakan will likely die from not choosing a switch anyways.
Okay, so.
I'm suspicious of vermilionvermin now!!!
Why?
For one thing, he has been active, trying to promote activity, and has thus become sort of a leader in the lynches. Yet he hasn't been wolfed yet. There are only three Players who I believe wouldn't wolf vermilionvermin out of strategy from the remaining Players; Hakan, Jub3r7, and I. I know I'm Human, I feel that Hakan is too inactive to be the Wolf, and Jub3r7 hasn't done anything out of the ordinary to make me suspect him. Thus, I suspect the cause of his living to be because he's the Wolf himself!
Original Post (http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=5125.msg183775#msg183775)
QuoteWhat I think is more important is the wolfing. The Socialfox wolfing is weird and absolutely should be analyzed.
Something about this statement by vermilionvermin seems a bit off to me; I feel that it's a bit forced (especially the italicised part), as if to make superficial leads. He mentions candidates such as Waddle Bro, Kman96, and Doodle, but never does anything with them. Although Kman96 does indeed become suspicious later on, the wolfing is never brought up again. Furthermore, this is the only time that vermilionvermin ever makes to make a major analysis the wolfing, hence why I feel the basis of the post is superficial.
During Night 2, Thiannon was wolfed. Out of all the Players in the game, I would suspect SocialFox, Hakan, vermilionvermin, The Boy Who Cried Wolf, me, and Jub3r7 to make that wolfing. Accounting for the now dead Players, only me, Jub3r7, and vermilionvermin remain. Night 1, however, SocialFox was wolfed; I don't wolf returning Players, new Players, or friends Night 1. I'll also give vermilionvermin and Jub3r7 a bit of leeway on that; I'm not sure of their record for wolfing such Players Night 1, but I think they both have the courtesy not to. Though, I wouldn't put it passed either to be a bit unconventional and do so. vermilionvermin in particular, of course!!!
The reason I suspect vermillionvermin a lot, however, is because Thiannon was wolfed and, unless the wolfings are being made randomly or without thought, he was probably wolfed for his skill and helpfulness. However, I think that at that point, vermilionvermin may have been a better target for the wolfing, since he appeared to be more of a lead figure than Thiannon did.
Bubbles being wolfed instead of vermilionvermin makes me wonder why vermilionvermin wasn't wolfed for the same reason as Thiannon, and I suspect that it's because he's a Wolf!!! Coincidentally, Bubbles is one of the Players vermilionvermin was very confident of being Human and her being wolfed is something I could see vermilionvermin planning as a Wolf to more easily lynch Players he himself finds suspicious.
And then there's this post too:
Quote from: vermilionvermin on December 29, 2012, 04:12:59 PMI'd rather lynch Shadowkirby than Hakan at this point. It looks like Hakan will likely die from not choosing a switch anyways.
I feel that Hakan not picking a switch would be enough evidence for vermilionvermin to explicitly state a reconsideration of his suspicions of Hakan. The way he says that too makes me feel like he just wants to get rid of as many Players as possible.
I also feel that his suspicions in general seem very contrived. He brings goods points for people's humanities, but I feel that his evidence for suspicions are below par. His suspicion for Hakan could really go both ways; Hakan may either say he no longer desires to play as a Wolf to troll or as a Human because he truly doesn't. Same thing goes for his suspicion for shadowkirby and blueflower999; making posts with only filler content? How many times has that method helped in finding Wolves? Overall, I think vermilionvermin's suspicions are awfully contrived. He's had some suspicions which I've majorly disagreed with when we were both Humans as well, but not as artificial as these, I feel.
Also,
Magical Mystery Switch.
Discuss.
Blueflower and dude picked the same switch. Defense will be coming in about 5 minutes unless i'm interrupted.
abbey switch
How is nighthawk/verblahblahblah not dead yet.
If you want to get lynched WHY ON EARTH you want to continue playing?
hakan how do i know youre not actually the red knight
He probably posted because I sent a PM on LLF asking him to so that he would pick a switch. If he didn't this might very well be our last lynch.
First part of my defense is I would never wolf Socialfox (http://llforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=1991#p90530). Yes it's an old quote, but here's the important part of it.
QuoteI had heard that you, S/A, and Liggy were popular wolf targets. After looking at the past three or four games, I found that Liggy and S/A always died on the first night. It wouldn't have been nice to continue that, so I looked for the last time you had died night 1. It had never happened on this forum. I also didn't know it was so off-limits to wolf you night one.
This was in my first game as a wolf. I had no partners. This was in the postgame of that game. The point is I'm not lying. I don't wolf players who have been wolfed recently or haven't been able to play in a while. I'm sure I've said it elsewhere, but that's the only place I could remember off the top of my head and most of the rest of them were probably in chats.
QuoteQuoteWhat I think is more important is the wolfing. The Socialfox wolfing is weird and absolutely should be analyzed.
Something about this statement by vermilionvermin seems a bit off to me; I feel that it's a bit forced (especially the italicised part), as if to make superficial leads. He mentions candidates such as Waddle Bro, Kman96, and Doodle, but never does anything with them. Although Kman96 does indeed become suspicious later on, the wolfing is never brought up again. Furthermore, this is the only time that vermilionvermin ever makes to make a major analysis the wolfing, hence why I feel the basis of the post is superficial.
I disagree with this! The main reason I worded it that way was because I hadn't been around for a good deal of the day phase, and I would have expected discussion to have centered around that since it's a weird wolfing that a lot of people wouldn't make at all and a lot of people would have an additional motive to make. And I did discuss it with respect to lots of people. I sent you my original suspicion list. I discussed it with respect to Hakan a ton. Thiannon died early, but I did think he was more likely than most to make it. The evidence against Kman and Dude was weak at best. I know I've also discussed how the Thiannon wolfing points more to certain people than others.
I'm not going to argue that I'd never wolf Thiannon because that'd be lying. I don't know if I'd have done it on Night 2 though. I probably would have given him another day phase before I killed him. He wasn't a threat to me at that time because he didn't suspect me, at least as far as I know. If I were a wolf, I would have kept him occupied with Kman and Sheikah another day before killing him.
I'll also argue that I wouldn't have made the Bubbles wolfing. Bubbles trusted me. You and I both got that PM she sent discussing the switches. She probably didn't want that posted in the thread, so I won't do it. If I were a wolf I'd avoid wolfing players who trusted me that much. I suppose this argument goes in circles because then I could use that to make me look human if I were a wolf.
QuoteI feel that Hakan not picking a switch would be enough evidence for vermilionvermin to explicitly state a reconsideration of his suspicions of Hakan. The way he says that too makes me feel like he just wants to get rid of as many Players as possible.
Hakan's definitely not the top spot on my suspicion list anymore. I think I might have been about to leave the house when I made that post, which is why it's so brief.
As for Blueflower, that suspicion was written mostly because I think a lot of other people were human. I know it's not a cohesive argument, but when I wrote that I was trying to look more closely into blueflower, and I didn't care whether or not it was a good argument. I just wanted to make one to get more discussion going on blueflower. My gut told me after writing it that he wasn't a wolf, so I dropped him from first to third.
I'd still like to lynch
Shadowkirby though. He really needs to say something besides which switch he'd like.
Hakan, you should post a defence too, Mister!!!
vermilionvermin swayed me a bit, so I'm going to just trust his instinct for now and also vote shadowkirby for now.
sorry, Pc went boom
white switch
damnit
we all live in a yellow submarine switch, suspicion list in a little bit if I don't suddenly die
hakan because a person instructed me to do so and I sort of agree with it for reasons I listed in a chat log posted earlier in the thread
anyone but him
shadowkirby because same person instructed me to change it and he was at the top of multiple suspicion lists
shadowkirby
Dude, FSM and Shadowkirby all died.
It is now Night 4. Night 4 ends tomorrow at 9:00 PM CST.
Sorry about the late update, folks!
1. SocialFox
2. Dude
3. Bubbles789898879879879878
4. Kman96
5. vermilionvermin
6. shadowkirby
7. SlowPokemon
8. BlackDragonSlayer
9. Mashi
10. blueflower999
11. K-NiGhT
12. Thiannon
13. FSM-Reapr
14. The Boy Who Cried Wolf
15. Hakan
16. the_last_sheikah
17. Jub3r7 [Phantom x1]
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Jub3r7's votes were not counted, but I let him live since not picking a switch when there's only one left doesn't really matter that much. That rule was only to prevent switch shenanigans anyway, and none of those happened this phase. He still gets a phantom though!
I think Bowser should do us all a favor and wolf themselves tonight.
Seriously. How am I not dead yet. lol.
Reason I haven't been posting much is because I keep forgetting I'm in this. Honestly if I were Bowser, I probably would've forgot to kill like twice by now. I wouldn't have even made it here for the last day phase, had verblahblahhawk not reminded me on LLF. I mean there's nothing I can say to defend myself because I haven't really done anything helpful because I hadn't even paid hardly any attention to the game!
Suspicion list:
1. Hakan
2. Mashi
3. Jub
4. Blueflower: almost certainly not a wolf. Will explain when i'm not about to leave the house or mashi has an explanation if i die tonight.
Early New Years Update!
Jub3r728723 died.
It is now Day 4. Day 4 ends the day after tomorrow at 9:00 PM CST.
1. SocialFox
2. Dude
3. Bubbles789898879879879878
4. Kman96
5. vermilionvermin
6. shadowkirby
7. SlowPokemon
8. BlackDragonSlayer
9. Mashi
10. blueflower999
11. K-NiGhT
12. Thiannon
13. FSM-Reapr
14. The Boy Who Cried Wolf
15. Hakan
16. the_last_sheikah
17. Jub3r7
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Purple Switch
Yellow Switch
Green Switch
White Switch
FINAL PHASE.
Purple Switch
White Switch
Green Switch
YELLOW SWITCH!
Did you guys leave me with my favorite color on purpose? :O
Who died? Oh.
Guess I'll take yellow
I'm on the edge of my seat.
This post is a log dump of things that happened in and around the wolfings.
Here's an actual suspicion list:
1. Blueflower: Said some pretty weird things in and around the time of the wolfing. One thing that stood out to me was how, when Mashi asked him why he didn't immediately pick a switch, he responded, something along the lines of "ask Hakan". In my mind, the most likely person to wolf Socialfox, but I'm not sure why he'd wolf Bubbles or Jub3r7.
2. Mashi: If it isn't blueflower, I think it's Mashi. Mashi seemed really set on blueflower from the start of the day, to what seemed to me to be an illogical extent, taking points that I think went in blueflower's favor and trying to twist them against him. I kind of believe him though when he says that he wouldn't wolf Socialfox though.
3. Hakan: While the first two wolfings probably make more sense coming from him, Bubbles and Jub3r7 don't really fit in with the previous two. Bubbles and Jub were the two lowest spots I had on actual suspicion lists, and I don't think I ever argued for their humanity in the thread. I think if Hakan were willing to wolf Thiannon, he probably would have wolfed Mashi and me as well.
QuoteSun Nighthawk hey mashi
Sun Nighthawk what if we faked popular opinion to get someone wolfed?
Sun Nighthawk let's pretend we agreed that blueflower was the most suspicious.
Sun Nighthawk we'd all put blueflower at the bottom of our suspicion lists
Sun Nighthawk or at least, the two of us could
Sun Nighthawk that way, when the wolf's making his wolfing decision, he's more inclined to wolf blueflower if blueflower isn't the wolf
Sun Nighthawk if blueflower is the wolf, he's more inclined to coast and make slip-ups
Sun Vera Oh, that sounds good!
Sun Vera Clever!
Sun Nighthawk but we need code words or something so that if one of us dies, the other one isn't super-suspicious for saying that
Sun Vera I think we'll be fine.
Sun Vera The SocialFox wolfing pretty much confirms us, I feel.
Sun Nighthawk [2:28:48 AM] Daniel: :tweeet: [2:28:55 AM] Jub: is that an llf emoticon [2:29:06 AM] Daniel: ya
Sun Nighthawk :tweeet:
Sun Vera lol
Sun Nighthawk why can't the people who blow up be the people that someone wanted to lynch
Sun Vera inb4 sauce chose who died each time
Sun Sauce-away thought about doing that!
Sun Sauce-away but the wolf learns the switches in advance
Sun Vera lol
Sun Vera Ah.
Sun Vera You could have made it any switch the Wolf didn't choose.
Sun Nighthawk wait wait
Sun Nighthawk blueflower and dude picked the same switch
Sun Nighthawk which one changed?
Sun Sauce-away dude changed
Sun Nighthawk damn it
Sun Vera
Sun Vera That's why he said Damnit.
Sun Vera In his other post with the switch.
Sun Vera Doesn't that make blueflower999 even more suspect then?
Sun Nighthawk no
Sun Nighthawk there were other non-bomb switches he could have picked
Sun Nighthawk and blueflower picked the revolver switch first
Sun Vera The switch he was on was safe though.
Sun Vera Why bother switching?
Sun Nighthawk because he had to?
Sun Nighthawk 2 people can't pick the same switch
Sun Vera But he chose his switch first.
Sun Nighthawk no he didn't
Sun Nighthawk blueflower did
Sun Nighthawk if you pick the switch, you get it
Sun Nighthawk dude would have died otherwise
Sun Vera Yeah.
Sun Nighthawk i suppose blueflower should have pointed it out
Sun Vera So Doodle chose another switch.
Sun Vera And died anyway!
Sun Sauce-away wat a dummy
Sun Vera Kittyhawkkk.
Sun Nighthawk ?
Sun Vera I don't get why it doesn't make blueflower999 seem more suspicious.
Sun Nighthawk why does it?
Sun Sauce-away need ice cream brb
Sun Vera Not majorly suspicious, but a bit more since he himself didn't decide to switch.
Sun Nighthawk who didn't decide to switch?
Sun Nighthawk dude did pick a switch
Sun Vera blueflower999 didn't!
Sun Sauce-away switches are first come first serve btw
Sun Nighthawk yes he did
Sun Nighthawk blueflower got the revolver switch he wanted
Sun Nighthawk dude had to pick another one
Sun Vera Yeah.
Sun Vera That's what I mean!
Sun Nighthawk blueflower didn't post in between the times that dude picked his switchES
Sun Vera I wouldn't be surprised if he were online and therefore capable of posting, however.
Sun Vera I'll check.
Quote18:14 Vera pssst nighthawk
18:14 Vera Jub3r7 was wolfed!!!
18:14 Nighthawk yes
18:14 Nighthawk damn
18:14 Nighthawk is the phase over already?
18:14 Vera Yes.
18:15 Nighthawk pick one quick
18:15 Vera Okay.
18:15 Nighthawk fun fact: if we both picked safe switches and we're both human then the humans win
18:16 Nighthawk regardless of who we lynch
18:17 Vera Wouldn't the Wolf also need to choose the wrong switch then?
18:17 Nighthawk aren't there only 2 safe switches?
18:17 Vera Not this time.
18:18 Nighthawk wait really
18:18 Nighthawk why
18:18 Vera Only 1.
18:18 Vera Sauce said so last time!
18:18 Nighthawk says where?
18:18 Vera Yesterday.
18:18 Nighthawk that's dumb
18:18 Vera Remember, I asked why two switches exploded?
18:18 Vera And he said this was the last Phase two would explode.
18:18 Vera And it would be one for the rest.
18:19 Nighthawk i can't find it
18:19 Vera Do you have the log?
18:20 Nighthawk i think so
18:20 Nighthawk oh
18:20 Nighthawk
18:20 *** Fiver joined #llftwg
18:20 Vera
18:20 Vera Are we still set on blueflower999?
18:20 Vera Oh, that reminds me.
18:20 Vera Hold onnn.
18:20 Vera Sending you a PM!!!
18:21 Nighthawk I don't know if I'm set on blueflower
18:21 Nighthawk losing to wolf iDOWN would be the worst
18:22 Liggy wolf idown doesn't exist
18:22 Liggy iDOWN is always human.
18:24 Vera I found his responses suspicious, but that's just me, anyhow.
18:24 Nighthawk blueflower's or idown's?
18:24 Vera blueflower's.
18:24 Vera In the brief log I sent.
18:25 Vera His responses sounded stressed to me.
18:25 Nighthawk that's not enough to lynch him though
18:25 Nighthawk and i'm inclined to agree
18:25 Nighthawk but i'm hesitant to vote someone based on process of elimination
18:25 Vera I feel that the Jub3r7 sets things nicely though.
18:25 Nighthawk and i think it's weird that of the 4 llfers, 3 are remaining
18:26 Vera Jub3r7's wolfing*
18:26 Nighthawk sure, some of that's due to luck
18:26 Vera Since blueflower999 would want you alive.
18:26 Nighthawk but still
18:26 Nighthawk i don't even know if blueflower saw what i posted
18:26 Vera He probably did.
18:26 Vera He was in Tinychat all day.
18:27 Nighthawk ok
18:28 Nighthawk if you were sauce
18:28 Nighthawk which switch would you have explode today?
18:28 Vera Yellow Switch.
18:28 Nighthawk why
18:28 Vera Because it reminded me of urine.
18:28 Nighthawk ok well
18:28 Vera lol
18:28 Nighthawk i would have picked the green switch
18:28 Nighthawk since a ton of players who are now dead wanted that one
18:31 Nighthawk I don't want to decide our final lynch on process of elimination, but I really can't justify lynching anyone but blueflower
18:31 Nighthawk i really don't feel that iDOWN would abandon the game if he were the only wolf
18:31 Nighthawk as sauce's friend i think he'd feel a little obligated not to do that!
18:32 Nighthawk and I don't think you'd have made the socialfox wolfing.
18:32 Nighthawk but none of the wolfings make any sense coming from blueflower
18:33 Nighthawk why does he go for fiver on night 2? bubbles night 3?
18:33 Nighthawk Outside of the socialfox wolfing, those two would make a lot more sense coming from you
18:40 Vera I think the wolfings make sense.
18:40 Vera Wolf Thiannon because he seems experienced.
18:40 Vera Wolf Bubbles because you think she's Human.
18:40 Vera You sent your list to blueflower999, didn't you?
18:41 Nighthawk no i didn't
18:41 Vera Oh.
18:41 Vera
18:41 Vera Hmm.
18:50 Vera I'm still thinking blueflower999.
18:50 Vera He was online exactly as the update occurred.
18:50 Vera And decided to rush to choose a switch after the two of us did.
18:51 Vera I had interrogated just before the Phase began.
18:51 Vera Well.
18:51 Vera Accused, hahaha.
18:51 Vera So he may have felt timid to choose a switch immediately, I feel.
18:51 Nighthawk did you ask him why he didn't pick a switch?
18:51 Vera I'll ask him right now!
18:54 *** Savvy-Sauce is now known as Sauce-away
18:54 *** Mashi joined #llftwg
18:54 Mashi Firefox completely froze on me.
18:54 Mashi supermashi: Pssst. [9:52 PM] supermashi: blueflower999 [9:52 PM] supermashi: Why did you choose a switch so late??? [9:52 PM] blueflower999: Pick on Hakan [9:52 PM] blueflower999: Not me
18:55 Nighthawk I think he should make a post
18:55 Nighthawk about who he suspects
Quote18:56 *** Vermilionvermin joined #twgnsm
18:58 *** Vera joined #twgnsm
19:04 *** bletch joined #twgnsm
19:04 Vera Yaaay.
19:04 *** bletch is now known as blueflower999
19:04 Vera verm verm
19:04 blueflower999 Is this the REAL Mashi
19:04 blueflower999 Or the fake Mashi
19:04 Vera Fake Mashi!!!
19:04 blueflower999 *leaves*
19:05 Vera no come back
19:05 blueflower999 *comes back*
19:05 Vera Yaaay.
19:05 Vera vermilionvermin
19:05 Vermilionvermin hi
19:06 Vermilionvermin blueflower, if you had to vote for someone right now, who would it be and why?
19:06 blueflower999 Not sure
19:06 blueflower999 Both of you seem very human to me
19:06 blueflower999 It's Hakan that I'm concerned about because of him trying to hide beneath the shadows
19:07 blueflower999 You two have made very long posts, clearly explaining your suspicions with the best interests of the human team in mind
19:07 blueflower999 He has done... almost nothing contributional the entire game.
19:07 Vermilionvermin why does his not talking make him a wolf?
19:07 blueflower999 It doesn't, normally
19:08 blueflower999 It's that there's only 4 people left, myself included
19:08 blueflower999 And both of you are acting human
19:08 Vera I've made long posts???
19:08 blueflower999 Some
19:09 blueflower999 Look at your posts explaining your suspicion of Verm
19:09 blueflower999 The second post on page 26
19:09 Vera That's one.
19:10 blueflower999 Verm has made quite a few
19:11 Vera I haven't made 'some' long posts though!
19:11 blueflower999 You and Verm together have
19:11 Vera Okay.
19:12 blueflower999 What are your thoughts?
19:12 blueflower999 Both of you
19:12 Vera I'm thinking you're the last wuff!!!
19:13 Vermilionvermin I'm thinking you're a likely candidate as well
19:13 Vermilionvermin mashi and idown are mildly suspicious
19:13 Vermilionvermin the one thing i can't get past though
19:13 Vermilionvermin is how weird it is that three out of the four people remaining are from llf
19:13 Vera I don't think it's very odd.
19:14 Vermilionvermin some of it's luck-based
19:14 Vermilionvermin but there were only four of us in the game
19:14 Vera You're the 'nominal' lynch leader.
19:14 Vera I'm inactive.
19:14 Vera Hakan is inactive.
19:14 Vermilionvermin dude, shadowkirby, fsm, and bubbles were inactive!
19:15 Vermilionvermin Fiver pushed lynches and he's dead
19:15 Vera Weren't the first three switched?
19:15 Vermilionvermin yeah that's true
19:16 Vera And Bubbles was relatively active.
19:18 Vermilionvermin blueflower and mashi, what do you think of the first two wolfings?
19:18 blueflower999 The first was SocialFox
19:18 blueflower999 The second was Thianon, right?
19:18 Vermilionvermin yes
19:19 blueflower999 It's a little strange
19:19 blueflower999 Thianon could have been killed for being an active and helpful player
19:19 Vermilionvermin why's it a little strange?
19:19 blueflower999 But if that was the case, then why weren't you killed?
19:20 Vermilionvermin Unless the wolf is Hakan, I've never really been pushing for the wolf.
19:20 blueflower999 And SocialFox just seems odd
19:20 blueflower999 I don't think anyone of us 4 remaining players would wolf Social for revenge for his previous behavior
19:20 blueflower999 Do you?
19:21 blueflower999 It could have been a frame for Waddle Bro that failed...
19:21 blueflower999 Or someone similar
19:21 Vermilionvermin I don't think it's revenge for previous behavior
19:22 blueflower999 Hold on, must take shower
19:22 blueflower999 Will probably be back later
19:22 Vermilionvermin ok
19:28 blueflower999 Back
19:28 blueflower999 I take quick showers
19:29 blueflower999 So
19:29 blueflower999 A few things to discuss
19:29 blueflower999 1. Mashi, explain why you're suspicious of me
19:29 blueflower999 2. Mashi, are you still suspicious of Verm like you were last day phase? If not, what changed your thinking?
19:31 blueflower999 ...is anyone still here?
19:31 Vera Sorryyy, phone call.
19:32 Vermilionvermin i'm still here
19:32 Vera Because of process of elimination and you being suspicious in Tinychat.
19:34 blueflower999 ...how was I being suspicious in Tinychat?
19:34 Vera And nope.
19:34 Vermilionvermin i'll probably be leaving soon
19:34 blueflower999 I did come here to chat TWG, didn't I?
19:34 Vera Terse, seemingly stressed supplies.
19:35 Vera replies*
19:35 blueflower999 In here, or Tinychat?
19:35 Vera Tinychat.
19:35 blueflower999 How could you blame me?
19:36 blueflower999 There was an impostor Mashi
19:36 blueflower999 How am I supposed to know if it's you or a fake?
19:36 Vera Because I knew about TWG.
19:36 blueflower999 The impostor did too
19:36 Vera This TWG?
19:37 blueflower999 Some of the questions that we asked him to confirm involved TWG
19:37 Vera What were the questions?
19:38 blueflower999 Stuff like "What does TWG stand for"
19:38 Vermilionvermin sorry, i have to go
19:38 blueflower999 And "Who are the moderators in the TWG board"
Quote19:18 Vermilionvermin blueflower and mashi, what do you think of the first two wolfings?
19:18 blueflower999 The first was SocialFox
19:18 blueflower999 The second was Thianon, right?
19:18 Vermilionvermin yes
19:19 blueflower999 It's a little strange
19:19 blueflower999 Thianon could have been killed for being an active and helpful player
19:19 Vermilionvermin why's it a little strange?
19:19 blueflower999 But if that was the case, then why weren't you killed?
19:20 Vermilionvermin Unless the wolf is Hakan, I've never really been pushing for the wolf.
19:20 blueflower999 And SocialFox just seems odd
19:20 blueflower999 I don't think anyone of us 4 remaining players would wolf Social for revenge for his previous behavior
19:20 blueflower999 Do you?
19:21 blueflower999 It could have been a frame for Waddle Bro that failed...
19:21 blueflower999 Or someone similar
19:21 Vermilionvermin I don't think it's revenge for previous behavior
and then I had to go, I think. If there's anything more to the newest log, please post it!
Quote from: vermilionvermin on January 02, 2013, 03:03:34 PM1. Blueflower: Said some pretty weird things in and around the time of the wolfing. One thing that stood out to me was how, when Mashi asked him why he didn't immediately pick a switch, he responded, something along the lines of "ask Hakan".
Uh, I said "Ask Hakan, not me" because Hakan picked a switch wayyyyy after I did, so if that was a legitimate accusation, then it shouldn't have been pointed at me.
And look. I picked a switch 2 minutes after Mashi. Hakan took a whole day. -.-
Sarcasm?
The question was why you were waiting when you were online. If you're a human, it's best to try to pick your switch quickly. If you're a wolf, it's fine to wait because you know which switches you can take and which you can't. The reason I picked one so quickly and urged Mashi to do the same was because if all three humans pick the good switches before the wolf does, the humans win regardless of whom they lynch.
It was 2 minutes. TWO BLOODY MINUTES. I could have been doing any number of other things on my computer. I could have been surfing the web, playing an online game with someone, writing a review in my thread, or any number of things away from the computer.
There's good and bad switches? I thought they were random? :|
Oh, I didn't know the wolf knew the switch. Shows how much attention I've been paying.
I think the Phase is ending soon and no one's in the #TWGNSM chat, so I'm going to vote for blueflower999, since I doubt anything major will show up to change my mind about him.
Points against Mashi:
1. Fiver died the night I sent Mashi a log in which Fiver said he'd try to accuse Mashi in order to get him more active.
2. Jub died and Mashi knew I thought he was really human.
3. Bubbles died and Mashi knew I thought he was really human.
4. I haven't been wolfed.
5. He's been far too certain about blueflower being the wolf for my liking.
6. Sauce was pretty generous about letting him live when he didn't pick the right switch.
7. Didn't pick a switch at his first available chance.
Points for Mashi:
1. I doubt he'd make the Socialfox wolfing.
2. Points 1-3 on the other list are weird for him to do as a wolf because they're fairly easy to get out of.
3. He almost didn't pick a switch one day.
4. He said he'd be OK lynching Kman or TBWCW when TBWCW already would have died that day from switches.
Points for Blueflower:
1. He wouldn't have known much about Thiannon if he wolfed him.
2. I don't know why he changed his vote at the end of Day 1 to BlackDragonSlayer if he's a wolf.
Points against Blueflower:
1. He's been acting a lot more angry than he normally does.
2. I feel like Hakan was the "easy" lynch today.
3. In the log I posted in my previous post, I think it's the bolded part, blueflower doesn't seem to recognize the main thing that makes wolfing Socialfox weird: that he wasn't able to play the last game he signed up for, and that it's kind of mean to wolf someone who hadn't been able to play the previous game.
4. Didn't pick a switch at the first available chance.
I feel that Hakan would have been more active as a wolf.
Looking back at my two lists, there's more to indicate that Mashi's human than there is to indicate that Blueflower's human. The Socialfox wolfing is really difficult to get past. I just don't think that Mashi would ever wolf someone who hadn't been able to play in the previous game. In discussions from previous TWGs I've found that Mashi seems to think through his Night 1 wolfing a lot, and Socialfox is probably one of the few players I don't think he'd wolf on the first night.
The things I wrote down as in Blueflower's favor are things which make him less likely to be the wolf, but not things which I think he absolutely wouldn't do as a wolf in the same way that wolfing Socialfox is for Mashi.
And that's my vote.
Quote from: vermilionvermin on January 02, 2013, 05:26:46 PM1. He's been acting a lot more angry than he normally does.
Uh... I am? I don't feel like I am. Give me an example.
Quote2. I feel like Hakan was the "easy" lynch today.
Well... yeah. What does this mean? "Easy lynch"? As if you weren't voting for him earlier.
Quote3. In the log I posted in my previous post, I think it's the bolded part, blueflower doesn't seem to recognize the main thing that makes wolfing Socialfox weird: that he wasn't able to play the last game he signed up for, and that it's kind of mean to wolf someone who hadn't been able to play the previous game.
Just because I don't mention something, does that mean that I don't recognize it? Of course I'm aware that Social wasn't in the last game! I was in it, and there was a bit of flaming going back and forth between Social and Waddle in the TWG hub thread.
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4. Didn't pick a switch at the first available chance.
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TWO. FREAKING. MINUTES. Heck, many I am getting a little angry, and that's because I feel like I'm getting accused at unfairly! I picked a switch TWO MINUTES after you did. This is NO reason to accuse someone.
QuoteI feel that Hakan would have been more active as a wolf.
Well, I don't. You saw my previous post long before that I had a hunch that the wolf would be inactive. I guess we'll find out soon if I was right or not.
1. Point 4.
2. Hakan was at the top of suspicion lists the entire time. Mashi isn't pushing for him to be lynched at this point,.
3. You might have been aware of it, but it wasn't the foremost thought in your mind. It's something Mashi had to deal with a lot more directly as TWC and likely would have been something he was considering when deciding a wolfing. Hakan was more than aware of it as well.
4. You might have picked a switch 2 minutes after I did, but it wasn't 2 minutes after the phase ended. Mashi said you were in the chat all day. Why weren't you in a hurry to pick your switch?
1. Not funny. Give me an example that is unwarranted and I am unaware of.
2. Exactly! And he's not lynched yet! And the game isn't won yet for the humans. Hmm. Funny.
3. How was Hakan aware of it? Did you tell him? Even if you did, it certainly wouldn't be "in the front of his mind" as someone who was actually active and participating on the forums during the events.
4. Oh. My. Pork. Read what I say. I could have been doing 50 billion things besides waiting for this phase to end. I'm sorry, but during the holiday season and during a time when my family is moving, I have better things to attend to than sitting on the forum, clicking "read unread replies to my posts" every second waiting for Bird to update. I picked a switch early. And nobody told me "oh blueflower make sure you pick a switch withing the five seconds after the update or else i'll think you're a wuff"
1. Not trying to be funny. Besides that, I think it's just the increased sarcasm that is making me think you're angry.
2. That applies to quite a few other people, including yourself. If you want to make this about Hakan, we can. Hakan nearly didn't pick a switch yesterday. He only came back after I sent him a PM telling him to pick one. Additionally, given that Sauce and Hakan are pretty good friends, I really doubt that Hakan would be this inactive as the only wolf in Sauce's game.
3. Hakan wasn't online at that point, at least as far as I know. What was suspicious is the timing of it all. When Mashi told me the phase ended, I immediately picked purple and told him to pick a switch. Then two minutes after that, you picked your green switch, and you were online the whole time. I guess I thought there was longer between the time the phase began and the time I posted.
It was odd that you hadn't said anything all phase and then came back right after the first two switches were taken, and then when pressed, you deflected the issue to Hakan, who may not even have been online at that point.
I don't suspect you nearly as much because of what you've done as much as I do because process of elimination. I really don't think Hakan would be that inactive as the only wolf, and I don't think Mashi would have wolfed Socialfox.
blueflower999, I keep asking you to come to #TWGNSM in tinychat!!!
LATE
blueflowah was lynched. nighthawk exploded.
Humans win.