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TWG XLVII: Relax, I'm a Doctor
3 Wolves:
Doctor Victor von Doom – Master Wolf
Arch-Nemesis to Reed Richards, leader of the Fantastic Four, the only man who can match his intellect; possibly the world's most dangerous villain, he manages to stay one step ahead of everyone.; he takes two hits to kill.

Doctor Frankenstein – Brutal Wolf
Known for his bizarre experiments, a rumor circulated that the man created some sort of beast that escaped. Frankenstein was last known to be in the Antarctic, presumably chasing his lost creation. Can be revived, but the monster cannot.

Doctor Ivo "Eggman" Robotnik – Wolf
Once planning to rule the world by turing the small fuzzy creatures into his robotic slaves, he has been thwarted numerous times by a quick little blue hedgehog.

9 Humans...Mostly:

4 Specials:
The Doctor – Guardian
A Time Lord; not much is known about this odd little man, but he is possibly the world's greatest hero nobody's ever heard of. He carries the Sonic Screwdriver, which allows the user to one vote each day phase, goes into effect during the tally. Not a human.

Doctor John Watson – Seer
Sherlock Holmes' "Man Friday", the time the good Doctor spent with Holmes gave him incredible deductive powers that allow him to see through even the most devious of charades.

Doctor Emmett Brown – Psychic
Built a time machine out of a DeLorean, presumably to travel the Space-Time Continuum in style; he can take another player of his choosing to either the future or past. Going to the past allows both players to adjust their votes from one day to a different player; going to the future will give them safe passage to the next day phase. He carries Gray's Almanac, granting the holder a tally of used powers throughout the game. The Almanac can only be used once all game, meaning the reader will only be told everything once he/she uses it.

Doctor Gregory House – Reviver
One of the greatest Medicine men of all times, his quick deductions and near encyclopedic knowledge of the human body grant him the ability to Revive dead players, but they must be a human for him to be successful.

4 Humans:
Doctor Zhivago – Human
A master of Zen like focus, his work on inner peace gives him an almost inhuman control of negative emotions. Takes two hits two kill, votes count for half.

Doctor Strangelove – Crazy
A former Nazi scientist, Dr. Strangelove is now working for the US Government during the Cold War. Absolutely mad, handle with Caution, his death means an immediate Game Over, No winner, No loser, just Mutually Assured Destruction.

Doctor Leonard H. "Bones" McCoy – Human
Chief Medical Officer aboard the Starship Enterprise, and will always remind that he's a Doctor, not anything else. He's also a damn good shot, and will survive a KitB if he has to.

Doctor Evil – Miller
Has aspirations to take over the world, but thwarted by the "International Man of Mystery" Austin Powers. He has since defected to the good guys, but with a name like Evil how much can you actually trust the man?

1 Rogue:
Doctor Henry Jekyll/Mr. Edward Hyde – Rogue
Mild mannered Henry Jekyll by day, ferocious beast Edward Hyde by night; each day he counts as a human, but has no voting power (votes=0), but each night he goes rogue and can kill any player he wishes. He is not considered a wolf at night. Win conditions: Hyde must kill either Doctor Doom or the Doctor; being killed by either side doesn't count, and must survive until the end of the game. If he's killed one of the above players by game's end, then he wins; if not then the appropriate team will be the victor. Not a human.

Players:
1. Dr. Bubbles, D. A. - Doctor John Watson – Seer
2. Dr. Boy, O. D. - Doctor Ivo "Eggman" Robotnik – Wolf
3. Dr. B. D. Slayer, D. C. N. - Doctor Henry Jekyll/Mr. Edward Hyde – Rogue
4. Dr. Yugi, D. D. S. - Doctor Evil – Miller
5. Dr. Waddle, D. C. - Doctor Leonard H. "Bones" McCoy – Human
6. Dr. Liggy, Psy. D. - Doctor Zhivago – Human
7. Dr. Hunter, D. D. - Doctor Emmett Brown – Psychic
8. Dr. Sheikah, D. P. A. - Doctor Victor von Doom – Master Wolf
9. Dr. Dude, D. H .S./Dr. Mashi, D. F. - The Doctor – Guardian
10. Dr. Vermilion, Ph. D. - Doctor Frankenstein – Brutal Wolf
11. Dr. Bird, D. V. M. - Doctor Gregory House – Reviver
12. Dr. T. Z. Pianist, Au. D. - Doctor Strangelove – Crazy

Analyses will be up later. Congratulations to our winner: BlackDragonSlayer!

I see what happened.

Thanks sheikah for being a jerk and ruining the game for us ::)

You knew you didn't stand a chance but you had to go try and kill Mashi. You would have died the next Day Phase. With a 100% guarantee.

Sorry guys, it's my fault. :(

I cannot believe I called waddle a dudebro.

Quote from: MaestroUGC on January 28, 2013, 10:12:44 PMAnalyses will be up later. Congratulations to our winner: BlackDrangonSlayer!

Well shucks; I did it. I'm glad I decided to attack Sheikah a second time instead of Liggy (I had a whole document typed up trying to find out who was who; I had my own secrets :P).

Quote from: Waddle Bro on January 28, 2013, 10:17:33 PMYou knew you didn't stand a chance but you had to go try and kill Mashi. You would have died the next Day Phase. With a 100% guarantee.

Sorry guys, it's my fault. :(

The only thing wrong you did is that you did not factor me into the equation (you thought I was a wolf?). :P :P
If Bird had not been killed (thanks Verm!), I still would have told him I was the seer, in the same manner, as that trap was too valuable to let go un-triggered. >:D

I just realized this: BlackDrangonSlayer :P

But, Waddle, you did keep me confused for many many extra minutes worth of shower time (philosophical thinking IS easier in the shower, and while sleeping :P), wondering whether you were trying to trap me and get the rogue to kill Sheikah, whether or not you had guarded him earlier (thus resulting in a "failed" attack), or whether he was the Doctor, Dr. Doom, or Zhivago.

I attacked Liggy the first night for a few reasons:
1: It was the obvious choice, and no suspicions could be drawn from it, since Liggy had claimed to the topic, and thus made himself a rogue-target.
2: "Prepare" him just in case the time came when I needed a quick "kill Doom-kill other wolves" strategy (IF Liggy was Dr. Doom).
3: Early in the game, I was worried that somebody like Boy, Waddle, or TZP would be Dr. Strangelove (mostly Boy, because he was going to be my first choice).

Me claiming miller helped to expose Vermilionvermin, which both reduced the wolves to an amount inducive (is that the right word?) to strategy, and inadvertently killed Bird (a disadvantage of public claiming); when I claimed seer, I hoped my defense of Yugi-Fox would make me look like a confused seer trying to keep as many humans alive as possible, but, unfortunately, the humans got a bit paranoid of me (though you didn't blindly follow me :P).

I think I've improved my role-playacting skill since My Name is Mephistopheles (then again, the circumstances were different), which is good, but it might make people want to kill me off earlier in future games... :P

BDS got lucky.

There, I said it!!!

This game really suffered from a lack of clarity in the role descriptions.  Wolves not knowing that humans knew which ones they were made us really easy to weed out and really difficult to make any convincing counterclaims.  This was particularly important when Liggy claimed Zhivago, which meant that Sheikah couldn't make the effective Zhivago counterclaim he was probably supposed to make.  Though it ended up working in our favor with me being lynched Day 1, it meant that we couldn't even make a convincing miller claim!

I'm not sure why the humans went after TBWCW on day 2, unless they were convinced by his defense that he wasn't a wolf and thus he must have been the rogue.  I didn't see any evidence of that though, people seemed to just stay quiet and agree with what Waddle Bro said.

It was actually much more important to take out the rogue early than it was to lynch a wolf, and I think that was the humans' main mistake here.

Quote from: Bird on January 28, 2013, 10:52:48 PMBDS got lucky.

There, I said it!!!

But I used strategy beforehand and afterwards to try and make the most of the situation... the (only?) significant case of good luck I had was you being killed by the Brutal power.
Public claiming usually makes you a target, and after I false-claimed seer, I was worried that I would be wolfed. There was a lot that could have happened that would have gotten in the way of (and stopped) my plan, and, as I mentioned above, the slight "wolf-paranoia" about me could have easily caused people to rush forward and lynch me.

Quote from: vermilionvermin on January 28, 2013, 10:55:09 PMIt was actually much more important to take out the rogue early than it was to lynch a wolf, and I think that was the humans' main mistake here.

That's why I tried to hide as much as possible... after your lynching, I could have easily stayed false-claiming miller and let Yugi-Fox be lynched, since it seems he was rather suspicious in the eyes of others...

I wonder what would have happened if Boy was Dr. Doom, among other things... there are so many interesting possibilities to be explored...!

Waddle terrible leader.

What Bird's talking about is how a perfect storm of events coincided so that you won.  On Day 2, you were the most suspicious player until TBWCW's seer claim was proven false, at which point he was lynched instead.  Additionally, sheikah happened to be the player you needed to kill.  There was no way to know that Sheikah was the person you needed to kill since sheikah was really inactive, so the fact that the night that you killed sheikah coincided with them finding the second-to-last wolf perfectly.

I'm not saying you played a bad game or anything because the odds were pretty stacked against the wolves and rogue, but that luck played a pretty big role in giving you the right timing!

Standing by my original "luck" assertion.

The humans just happened to kill both of the non-master wolves, and you just happened to hit Dr. Doom on Night 2! Who by night 3, happened to be the last wolf! And there was no way to no he'd been attacked either. You didn't do a bad job or anything, but a lot of things worked out perfectly for you.

Basically what vermilionvermin said.

Also this game was extremely human-sided, despite the outcome. This is why I'm against (non-mystery) games where every player gets a special role. Once everyone's claimed, the humans just have to assess the roles which received multiple claims, and can systematically eliminate them. If we kill wolves on day 1 and day 2, either the wolves suck or the humans are overpowered. As I said before, it was sheer chance which gave the victory to the rogue, and the humans would definitely have won if the game had gone one phase longer.

Also it led to all the work being done by the alliance leaders (Waddle and me, basically). Sorry for losing the game for you guys! This is why alliances are stinky!

Quote from: vermilionvermin on January 28, 2013, 11:51:07 PMWhat Bird's talking about is how a perfect storm of events coincided so that you won.  On Day 2, you were the most suspicious player until TBWCW's seer claim was proven false, at which point he was lynched instead.  Additionally, sheikah happened to be the player you needed to kill.  There was no way to know that Sheikah was the person you needed to kill since sheikah was really inactive, so the fact that the night that you killed sheikah coincided with them finding the second-to-last wolf perfectly.

I'm not saying you played a bad game or anything because the odds were pretty stacked against the wolves and rogue, but that luck played a pretty big role in giving you the right timing!

The part in bold was logical deduction/elimination: I could have gone with Liggy, or decided that Sheikah was Strangelove, since "apparantly" he was guarded (he wasn't).

The reason why I attacked Sheikah the first time was because I thought there was a possibility he was The Doctor; in the situation that he was (so many interesting possibilities!), then I would have hoped that the humans would have been able to lynch Dr. Doom (for the first attack on him), allowing for a "double victory"!! :P :P Herp derp

I understand why you thought me seer claim was false..


The Boy Who Cried Wolf for Human MVP- Started off a suspicion on a wolf and pushed for the lynch on day 1, he then correctly seer'd Liggy and Dude. Overall well done performance, pitty the Humans found out you were a wolf!

Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on January 29, 2013, 12:16:42 AMI understand why you thought me seer claim was false..


The Boy Who Cried Wolf for Human MVP- Started off a suspicion on a wolf and pushed for the lynch on day 1, he then correctly seer'd Liggy and Dude. Overall well done performance, pitty the Humans found out you were a wolf!

Because Vermilionvermin was the Brutal Wolf. :P

Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on January 29, 2013, 12:16:42 AMI understand why you thought me seer claim was false..


The Boy Who Cried Wolf for Human MVP- Started off a suspicion on a wolf and pushed for the lynch on day 1, he then correctly seer'd Liggy and Dude. Overall well done performance, pitty the Humans found out you were a wolf!

What.

1. You were a wolf.
2. You pushed a lynch against your partner.
3. Apples.
4. You wolfed the real seer, putting loads of suspicion on you.

So was this whole game just lucky luck since every wolfing was a special role?

You kept wanting me to seer who we were wolfing like wut.

Quote from: Bird on January 28, 2013, 10:52:48 PMBDS got lucky.

There, I said it!!!

This is correct. I don't get why he claimed miller.
The ONLY thing that saved you was the reason I gave you, when I was assuming you were a wolf.

QuoteWhy can't we lynch BDS now?
If we do that, the Rogue will win. He'll kill TBWCW with his other hit, meaning the last wolf is dead and the Rogue has survived until the end and killed Dr. Doom.

It was a MASSIVE stroke of luck that you randomly hit Sheikah with one of your hits.

Imagine, all of this would have been avoided if Dude would have been active and given me his Screwdriver.(unfortunately I was asleep when Mash replaced him)

I BLAME THE SUN FOR OUR LOSS

take that sun

Sowwy guise.

Quote from: Dude on January 29, 2013, 07:01:25 AMSowwy guise.

No, I can't let you take the blame dear Touhou buddy!

It was me why we lost, no one else.

<3 Dude 4ever

Quote from: Bubbles7689 on January 29, 2013, 03:40:22 AMSo was this whole game just lucky luck since every wolfing was a special role?

It was only mildly lucky night 1.  I wolfed Hunter because I thought it was odd that he, as a newer player, wasn't more curious about Waddle's "plan".  This led me to believe that Hunter and Waddle were both specials or at the very least people Bird trusted.  Given that 3/7 of our options to wolf (Liggy and Bird weren't really choices at that point) were specials and we were pretty sure Socialfox wasn't one, it was only a little bit lucky.  From there, Waddle was the alliance leader with an alive guardian, so he wasn't wolfed, and neither Socialfox nor BDS would have been up for consideration since they counterclaimed each other.  At that point we either killed a special or ended the game.

Going back, I probably should have counterclaimed Waddle's role.  At that point, Bird would have made the humans force a KITB and lynch me, and then TBWCW could have claimed miller mildly convincingly and sheikah could have claimed seer.

I can't believe you didn't figure out that you could trade the items to bust false-claimers. Even Bird didn't figure that out.

I realised that before the game started but it was too good to say outloud.

Waddle, I can't believe you didn't know BDS was the rogue, everyone knew it but you I think. Didn't I mension it when you were lynching me?

Still can't believe you lynched me, even though I was a wolf my seering was correct and I felt like I was a seer! Literally! I was gorgetting I was a wolf! I was in dah moooood.

I think you played well, but seriously, Bubbles didn't have any points against him.

Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on January 29, 2013, 08:04:49 AMWaddle, I can't believe you didn't know BDS was the rogue, everyone knew it but you I think. Didn't I mension it when you were lynching me?

No. But you're forgetting that all of your your partners were wolves meaning you knew BDS was the rogue :P

Nothing that you said was worthy of believing. I was right.

Yeh but 2 wolves aren't going to claim miller, especially if one was Verm.

But you're forgetting that it was BDS. ::)

Yeah, there wasn't a good game for the wolves.  I was actually intending to leave the game Night 1 and give Mashi my spot because I wasn't that into this game, but I stuck around for whatever reason.
Night 3, I knew I was boned, so I tried to wolf Dude, who Boy thought was Strangelove, and that clearly didn't work.

IMO, the wolves had no chance to win this game.  Humans had better powers and had items, Wolves got bland, traditional powers and general blah.  Maybe if the wolves had some new, interesting powers, and item, or even different colors, maybe a chance could be had.

We guarded Strangelove Night 3. :P

it was worth a shot

But I guess it's safe to say that the humans were the real winners.
We found all the wolves, someone else just came to steal the fruits of our hard work.
...
...
::)

Quote from: Waddle Bro on January 29, 2013, 06:25:05 AMThis is correct. I don't get why he claimed miller.
The ONLY thing that saved you was the reason I gave you, when I was assuming you were a wolf.

It was a MASSIVE stroke of luck that you randomly hit Sheikah with one of your hits.

I thought I told you why I claimed miller... it was... it was...
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And I DID tell you, it wasn't random; I CHOSE to attack Sheikah for a second time instead of Liggy: I could have easily decided that I shouldn't hit him, had I not put more thought into it. I didn't just pull names out of a hat and use that to decide who to kill... :P

Quote from: Waddle Bro on January 29, 2013, 08:52:17 AMBut you're forgetting that it was BDS. ::)

No, you are, and that's what I took advantage of. You doubted that I'd be able to do something like that as a rogue, since you underestimated me. I even warned you guys not to doubt me (I think I said it to Boy?). :P

Quote from: Waddle Bro on January 29, 2013, 12:40:11 PMBut I guess it's safe to say that the humans were the real winners.
We found all the wolves, someone else just came to steal the fruits of our hard work.
...
...
::)

But you left me out of the equation. ::) "It does not do to leave a live dragon out of your calculations, if you live near him."
If you doubted me, though, I guess my strategy worked... :P


Also, on a somewhat different note, sending the PMs in order to use my action was extremely weird; it went something like this:
Kill Liggy
etc. etc. etc.

True fact, the humans never used their items.

Wait, people are underestimating BDS? BDS is good guys but he can be very strange and noobish sometimes but a lot of the time he does have good ideas but he has to concentrate on contributing more rather than keeping himself protected and otherthinking things!!

Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on January 29, 2013, 01:01:53 PMWait, people are underestimating BDS? BDS is good guys but he can be very strange and noobish sometimes but a lot of the time he does have good ideas but he has to concentrate on contributing more rather than keeping himself protected and otherthinking things!!

Apparantly Waddle thought that I was a really dumb wolf... :P Which, of course, was good for me, but not for the humans.

If I don't "overthink" (or, rather, think at all) things, I would never come to the conclusions I have come to, in many previous games, including this one, as I mentioned above with Liggy and Sheikah.

Meh, last game you overthinked who who wanted to send suspicion lists to.

b**** plz

You can't say that your victory wasn't luck.

Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on January 29, 2013, 12:54:53 PMAnd I DID tell you, it wasn't random; I CHOSE to attack Sheikah for a second time instead of Liggy: I could have easily decided that I shouldn't hit him, had I not put more thought into it. I didn't just pull names out of a hat and use that to decide who to kill... :P

It was obvious that you didn't attack Liggy Night 2, like I said. >.>
Tell me how did you choose to attack Sheikah Night 2, I'm listening.
After Sheikah survived from your first attack it was also obvious that you'd attack him second time, because I confirmed that Liggy is the Zhivago.

Maestro, I think I deserve the Rogue team MVP.

Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on January 29, 2013, 12:54:53 PMNo, you are, and that's what I took advantage of. You doubted that I'd be able to do something like that as a rogue, since you underestimated me. I even warned you guys not to doubt me (I think I said it to Boy?). :P
But you left me out of the equation. ::) "It does not do to leave a live dragon out of your calculations, if you live near him."
If you doubted me, though, I guess my strategy worked... :P

I am what? ???
I didn't underestimate you, I basically gave you everything you needed to win, except the dumb luck.

Waddle failed us all

why are you guys actually arguing about this

becuz i dont want bds 2 think hez a pro juzt becuz he won a twg thx 2 me

people always argue about this kind of stuff after the game ends.  Is whatever.

Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on January 29, 2013, 01:07:46 PMMeh, last game you overthinked who who wanted to send suspicion lists to.

BUT I WAS RIGHT. Caution is not overthinking something, but rather, doing something to avoid a great mistake.

The reason why I don't "contribute more" is because people tend not to listen to me very often (see TWG XLIV: The Pokemon League for recent occurrence of this).

Quote from: Waddle Bro on January 29, 2013, 01:12:12 PMYou can't say that your victory wasn't luck.

It was obvious that you didn't attack Liggy Night 2, like I said. >.>

Tell me how did you choose to attack Sheikah Night 2, I'm listening.

After Sheikah survived from your first attack it was also obvious that you'd attack him second time, because I confirmed that Liggy is the Zhivago.

I am what? ???
I didn't underestimate you, I basically gave you everything you needed to win, except the dumb luck.

But I can't say that it was either. :P There is a major difference between luck and current circumstance/situation.

I attacked Liggy Night 1. -_-

Sheikah's question about The Doctor opened a slight possibility that he could be The Doctor (or trying to be The Doctor), meaning that he would be one of the two possible people I'd need to kill. Unless I wanted to be radical and kill someone "important," Sheikah seemed like a logical choice.

You could have easily been bluffing the rogue, which is why I thought deeper into the matter.

You're forgetting that it's me. :P You didn't give me everything, only the fact that you didn't lynch me before Boy, which was situations and YOUR logic, not merely luck, as YOU decided it.

Luck is what happened in Have It Your Way:

• Mashi was seered green
• Seer was killed early on.

Both of those things as things the wolves could not have known, but happened anyway; the extreme happening of destructive circumstances crushed the humans in that game.

Quote from: Waddle Bro on January 29, 2013, 01:22:13 PMbecuz i dont want bds 2 think hez a pro juzt becuz he won a twg thx 2 me

...you're doing the same thing... you just don't want to admit that I thought up a strategy to dupe you... :P If the situation was reversed, you'd probably be doing the same thing I am...

Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on January 29, 2013, 01:29:23 PMThe reason why I don't "contribute more" is because people tend not to listen to me very often (see TWG XLIV: The Pokemon League for recent occurrence of this).
WADDLE: there is a reason for that

I attacked Liggy Night 1. -_-
WADDLE: Yes, I was aware of that Day 2.

Sheikah's question about The Doctor opened a slight possibility that he could be The Doctor (or trying to be The Doctor), meaning that he would be one of the two possible people I'd need to kill. Unless I wanted to be radical and kill someone "important," Sheikah seemed like a logical choice.
WADDLE: I don't see one question qualifying as a logical reason. (pretty lucky for you that he didn't ask that question through PM then) Me, Mashi and TZP were just as likely to be the Guardian as Sheikah.

You're forgetting that it's me. :P You didn't give me everything, only the fact that you didn't lynch me before Boy, which was situations and YOUR logic, not merely luck, as YOU decided it.
WADDLE: I told you that Liggy is the Zhivago, too. That(and boy lynch) was all you needed to win.

...you're doing the same thing... you just don't want to admit that I thought up a strategy to dupe you... :P If the situation was reversed, you'd probably be doing the same thing I am...
WADDLE: If Dude would have given me that item Night 2, Sheikah would have been lynched next and you would have not killed him. You would have been the next and then TBWCW.
THIS is why I think your win was a stroke of dumb luck.

And the winner goes to...
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The greatest NES game ever.  :P

Waddle, you're forgetting a ton of stuff, including perspective, situation, and what I have said previously.

Many of the things you mentioned, including Liggy, I was not ignorant of (I mentioned, though, that you could have been bluffing).

From my perspective, you, Mashi, and TZP had done nothing to signify that you were LIKELY to be the Doctor; as I mentioned, because of the failed attack earlier, it was likely that you either guarded him (or used the Psychic Power, IF the psychic was still alive), or that he was Doctor Doom.

There's no reason that I should have attacked Liggy night 2 (which you seem to be implying I "should have done"), as, IF (keyword IF) he was Doctor Doom, it would be better to wait until there he was the last wolf.

About the item: that's not luck; that's clearly defined and controllable actions of the players, not something like seering the master wolf (who doesn't know he's the master wolf) green, or killing the seer without knowing he's the seer.
You asked for the item, unless you asked for it way earlier without anybody else knowing, on Day 2, when you lynched Boy. You also fail to take into account a change of strategy given the SITUATION (e.g. I'm not just going to stick with the same strategy even though it's divebombing into the ground :P).

Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on January 29, 2013, 02:16:56 PMAbout the item: that's not luck; that's clearly defined and controllable actions of the players, not something like seering the master wolf (who doesn't know he's the master wolf) green, or killing the seer without knowing he's the seer.
You asked for the item, unless you asked for it way earlier without anybody else knowing, on Day 2, when you lynched Boy. You also fail to take into account a change of strategy given the SITUATION (e.g. I'm not just going to stick with the same strategy even though it's divebombing into the ground :P).

It's unlucky that Dude couldn't be active and that Mashi didn't know what was going on! I had to ask the item from Mashi Day 2. If we would have confirmed the false-claimer Night 2, we would have lynched him Day 2, this is guaranteed information. Since you had attacked Sheikah Night 2, he would have died from our lynching.

But I still think you're the collest person here, Dude! You play LC(well at least once) and Touhou! <3

I'm glad I didn't give my item to bird before he died.

That's pretty much the only good thing I did.

Quote from: Waddle Bro on January 29, 2013, 02:29:15 PMIt's unlucky that Dude couldn't be active and that Mashi didn't know what was going on! I had to ask the item from Mashi Day 2. If we would have confirmed the false-claimer Night 2, we would have lynched him Day 2, this is guaranteed information. Since you had attacked Sheikah Night 2, he would have died from our lynching.
But I still think you're the collest person here, Dude! You play LC(well at least once) and Touhou! <3

*facepalm*
That's not luck... had I been inactive, I would have been unable to win, for example...

But yet again, I could use that against you: If I had chosen to attack Liggy night 2, I would have been able to attack Sheikah. You COULD call THAT "luck." -_-
If you call that luck, than nearly EVERY action is luck: it's lucky Bubbles seered Hunter and was confirmed, it's lucky that...

Something came into Dude's way, making him unable to come to NSM.

I call that something unlucky.

Guys games over, we all think BDS was lucky but I believe something was going on in that complicated mechanical brain of us that lead him to victory. It wasn't luck in my opinion, it was just unexpected.

Quote from: Waddle Bro on January 29, 2013, 02:37:29 PMSomething came into Dude's way, making him unable to come to NSM.

I call that something unlucky.

Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on January 29, 2013, 02:35:05 PM*facepalm*
That's not luck... had I been inactive, I would have been unable to win, for example...

If you call that luck, than nearly EVERY action is luck: it's lucky Bubbles seered Hunter and was confirmed, it's lucky that...

That's not luck, that's circumstance. Now you're just trying to think of excuses. O_o

Luck: "Success or failure apparently brought by chance rather than through one's own actions."
Circumstance: "An event or fact that causes or helps to cause something to happen, typically something undesirable."

Luck is winning/losing a coin flip. Coincidence is two or more parties acting of their own accord when something happens.

BDS had his own things going for him, as did the wolves and humans. The fact that his plans worked out in spite of the others is a testament to his gameplay, not luck.

This seems to have died.  Analyses coming soon?