Poll
Question:
Which game do you want to play?
Option 1:
The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya II - SlowPokemon - [LINK]
votes: 6
Option 3:
The Dangerous Flora and Fauna of Umbra - BlackDragonSlayer - [LINK]
votes: 1
Option 4:
Untitled - Liggy - [LINK]
votes: 4
Option 5:
It's Complicated - The Boy Who Cried Wolf - [LINK]
votes: 2
I'm off to school!!!
Additionally, we'll open the poll for voting at 8:00 PM CST on Thursday (the 31st).
The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya II - SlowPokemon - [LINK] (http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=5335.msg194867#msg194867)
72 Hours Remaining - FSM-Reapr - [LINK] (http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=5335.msg194871#msg194871) [UPDATED LINK] (http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=5335.msg194962#msg194962)
Whatever Bird's Game Is Called - Bird - [LINK] (http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=5335.msg194898#msg194898)
The Dangerous Flora and Fauna of Umbra - BlackDragonSlayer - [LINK] (http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=5335.msg194954#msghttp://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?board=23.0194954)
Untitled - Liggy - [LINK] (http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=5335.msg195057#msg195057)
It's Complicated - The Boy Who Cried Wolf - [LINK] (http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=5335.msg195159#msg195159)
TWG: The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya II
Haruhi Suzumiya is at it again, forcing the SOS Brigade to do all sorts of insane shenanigans. This time she has the gang acting in a mystery-themed stage play she scripted, starring Itsuki Koizumi and Ryoko Asakura as the murderers. However, due to Haruhi's wish for a true mystery, her powers inadvertently switch up all the performers' minds the night before the play, meaning that potentially no one other than her is actually in their own body! It's up to Kyon, your host and narrator--who has also miraculously remained in his original body--and the rest of the performers to deduce in whose bodies Koizumi and Asakura actually are.
List of true roles with according colors:
1. Itsuki Koizumi
2. Ryoko Asakura
3. Yuki Nagato
4. Mikuru Asahina
5. Tsuruya
6. Taniguchi
7. Kunikida
8. President of the Computer Club
9. Kimidori
10. Kyon's Sister
11. Okabe
12. Shamisen
12 accounts will be made, similarly to the game in which none of us knew one another's identity. The twelve accounts will match the names of the roles listed above. No one will be told who is which account except the wolves. For instance, if Jub3r7 signed up, it might happen that his account name is the role of Kyon's Sister, so he would get the account information for that one and post in the thread using that one. However, his TRUE role would be that of Taniguchi, which he would not be informed of--he would only be told that he's a human. Mashi, similarly, might sign up and get the account of Yuki Nagato, but his true role will be that of Ryoko Asakura. He will be informed of this, as well as the account name ONLY of the other wolf--not the true NSM user name.
Every "Act" (Night) Phase, the TRUE Koizumi and Asakura (not necessarily the ACCOUNT Asakura and Koizumi) will kill one of the humans. Every "Intermission" (Day) Phase, the remaining players will lynch one of their own, trying to discover and kill the two wolves. After every death, there will be a cardflip revealing the deceased's true role.
A couple things to note:
1. It's possible that an account and true role will match up, given that everything will be randomized.
2. No posting in the thread with your real NSM account, only the one given to you.
3. NO ONE should reveal his or her true NSM username to anyone, even as a joke. That ruins the anonymity.
4. Players should not spend the game guessing others' true identities. Again, that ruins the point of the anonymity.
It's not overly complicated once you think about it. It would be a great deal of fun if everyone participated.
Also, I would shorten the list of players to 10 if not enough people wanted to play.
internet cafe ftw
AJDFYKAVFCKAWVFA;KUVWFUCBWK:UQOEBFQO8HOLY SHIT THAT LOOKS AMAZING SLOW
Apparently you have a new system now but I'll post this anyways.
You have no idea how much I want to host this game. I will stay in NSM for this one game at least, so it would be great if I would win :3
TWG XLVIII: 72 Hours Remaining
Universal effect: Masks(items)
There are three masks distributed in the beginning of the game to randomly chosen players(this doesn't include the Happy Mask Salesman):
-Deku Mask Holder will be seered brown. The holder cannot be sniped or vigi'd
-Goron Mask Holder will be seered navy. The holder can vigi someone during Night.
-Zora Mask Holder will be seered teal. The holder can seer someone during Night.
Night Phases last 24 hours, Day Phases 48. Every time a Night Phase begins the masks that the Happy Mask Salesman isn't holding will be re-distributed.
1. Happy Mask Salesman
The objective of the Happy Mask Salesman is to get all the masks and have Majora's Mask dead. If he manages to do that, he wins. The game will end when Happy Mask Salesman wins.
If a player holding a mask dies, the mask automatically transfers to Happy Mask Salesman. Happy Mask Salesman can use the secondary powers of the masks that he's holding(=seer/vigi). The masks Happy Mask Salesman is holding won't be re-distributed when the cycle begins again. Can only die through a lynching. Will be told who will receive the masks in the beginning of every Night(not which masks though).
Wolves:
2. Majora's Mask - Master Wolf Seer
3. Skull Kid - Sniper Wolf Can snipe a player of his choice anytime in any point of the game. One-time use.
4. Tael - Tribute Brutal Wolf During a Day Phase, this player can tribute(this player dies) him/herself by sending a PM to the host, to revive somebody dead permanently. One time use. This power doesn't supersede an insta. If lynched, this player can take another player down with him.
Humans:
5. Link - Hero of Time When masks are distributed, Link always gets a mask.
6. Tatl - Tribute During a Day Phase, this player can tribute(this player dies) him/herself by sending a PM to the host, to revive somebody dead permanently. One-time use. This power doesn't supersede an insta.
7. Kaepora Gaebora - Guardian Cannot guard Link or self.
8. Human
9. Human
10. Human
11. Human
12. Human
13. Human
14. Human
15. Tingle - Brutal Human When killed, a randomly chosen, blue human will die. Knows that he's the Brutal Human.
Two awesome games, so I guess I won't be posting Doctor Two this time.
I think I'll take a small break from TWG/NSM when FSM comes back. I'm pretty stressed out already and I think I'll have to clear up my head a bit.
Reserved.
Oh my god Slow, I want to play that so bad.
...I've never had an alt :'(
FSM, if link gets the zora mask and gets a green seering result, that player is confirmed human because MW is seer'd blue and there's no other role seer'd in that color. Additionally, once an alliance is formed and the MW hasn't counterclaimed a role, a blue result will surely be a MW, because outside the alliance roles there are no roles seer'd blue.
Speaking of alliances, if the humans complete an alliance, they're next to unstoppable. Link claimes, has a 1/3 chance of being protected from being sniped or vigi'd, so the wolves wouldn't waste a snipe on them. The guard can just guard the tribute, so that the wolves don't know if link is guarded, and even if he's not guarded and wolf'd, the tribute can just revive him. If the guardian dies, the tribute can revive him too, and the wolves will have to take a guess wheter the guardian will be guarding himself, or if he is guarding Link. Additionally, if the wolves manage to kill Link, it will only cause the salesman to come closer to his goal, so the wolves probably don't even want Link to die. Of course, if a wolf succesfully manages to counterclaim a role, this can be prevented, but in past games we have seen no wolf has ever succeeded in doing so, so I think the game is quite human sided.
Thanks davy, you just made me to send a super long text to him. >:O
Thanks for the comments Davy.
I'll be having a text message discussion with Waddle about how to make it balanced.
Davy 4 TWC
A possible problem with Slows, the account names might be taken. I'm sure that can be solved with '_' or 'x' stuff.
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on January 29, 2013, 11:56:14 AMA possible problem with Slows, the account names might be taken. I'm sure that can be solved with '_' or 'x' stuff.
I doubt that.
QuoteI'll be having a text message discussion with Waddle about how to make it balanced.
multitasking ftw
You're on Waddles account, is that FSM? Haxor.
It was a text message from him >.>
Ohhhh
Actually I checked when I made the game, the account names are available.
Would the players make the accounts themselves or would the login information be given to them?
THE ONE WHO MAKES THE YUKI NAGATO ACCOUNT MUST NAME IT
YUKI.N_
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on January 29, 2013, 12:25:04 PMWould the players make the accounts themselves or would the login information be given to them?
The second.
TWG: The Dangerous Flora and Fauna of Umbra
Backstory: Many years ago, the war on the planet Umbra ended. The war hero Agent 819, who single-handedly took out the dark leader UMBRA, went back to the galactic capital planet, never to return to Umbra until the year of his death... but his story is another story, not to be told here...
Umbra is quickly becoming a point of interest for tourists. The super-company Micro Budget Ships Inc. is funding a new, experimental program to safely guide boatloads of these tourists through the planet on a specific route, highlighting the major natural features.
Unfortunately for the company, the illusions still remain on Umbra, even after the evil left the planet: the local flora and fauna have gotten hungry, and weak-minded tourists are on the menu...
The Flora and Fauna; Wolves
1: Miju-maron: Master Wolf (as the Miju-marons are giant, carnivorous plants, they can't do much unless people walk right into their lairs, though this doesn't affect the role any)
2: Gialux: Wolf
3: Gi-Jinado: Wolf
4: Ryu-jin: Infective "oni" wolf. In the case that Ryu-jin is lynched, the player sends a PM to the host, "passing" the role on to another player (player is turned red). If the player is a wolf or tour guide, the power does not take effect. Is the only wolf who does not know his teammates.
Micro Budget Ships Tour; Humans
5: Tour Guide 1: Guardian; can guard one player per night, excluding self.
6: Tour Guide 2: Seer; is told results at end of night phase.
7: Tour Guide 3: Psychic; is told the number of wolves and if the red human is left in the game at the end of every day phase (after lynching). This excludes the "revived" Ryu-jin.
8: Tourist: Human.
9: Tourist: Human.
10: Tourist: Human.
11: Tourist: Human.
12: Tourist: Human.
13: Tourist: Human
14: Tourist: Human
15: Tourist: Acts like a wolfsbane, except that the wolfing is redirected to another human player. Will be told he's a normal human.
16: Tourist: Acts like a wolfsbane, except that the wolfing is redirected to another human player. Will be told he's a normal human.
Because Ryu-jin does not know who the other wolves are, and visa versa, only the first wolfing vote is accepted.
There are no special victory conditions.
This game WILL have a story, revealed between phases (both day and night), in average-sized paragraphs.
Special Gimmick: Navigation; throught the game, the tour moves across various parts of the planet Umbra, on a course determined randomly (though areas cannot repeat until three other locations have been visited). Each area gives special, temporary effects to certain roles (please excuse the terrible "Google translate Latin" :P):
Overworld: Seer is told exact role of seered player.
Palus Magna (swamp): Miju-maron gets two lynching votes.
Dire ad Aqua (underwater ocean): Gialux is seered as green.
Stone Causeway: No effects.
Ignis Parva (inside of a volcano): Gi-Jinado gets two lynching votes.
Sacred Catacombs: Guard can guard two people.
In Specus Caverna (cave inside a cavern underneath the volcano): Ryu-Jin can seer.
Ruins of Ultima Fini (mechanical core of the planet): No effects.
Slow
Tael's power seems useless.
Well as soon as a wolf is revived, and if Tatl claims, that wolf will be firestormed.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on January 29, 2013, 12:59:54 PMThe second. (I will make the accounts and give the players the login info.)
Normally, I would say you should get this okayed by the staff, but they don't care about anything, so go ahead!
I am liking FSM's game.
Quote from: FSM through a text messageblueflower is super coll
...is that legitimate? :o
Ya.
Waddle/FSM: If the person holding the Deku mask is sniped will the snipers ability be lost?
Can the guardian guard himself?
When the tribute dies and revives someone is that player protected from everything but an insta?
ugikun: Wait am I still banned from any game FSM hosts?
[9:27 AM] yugikun: as I went two games without breking any rules?
[9:28 AM] notshado entered the room.
[9:28 AM] guest-1273443 changed nickname to notshado
[9:29 AM] notshado: : |
[9:29 AM] yugikun: :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
[9:29 AM] waddle: No
[9:29 AM] waddle: You aren't
[9:30 AM] waddle: I said I would take care of it!
[9:30 AM] yugikun: yayyyyyy
[9:30 AM] waddle: :D
[9:30 AM] notshado left the room.
[9:30 AM] yugikun: now i can read my hentai
[9:30 AM] waddle: I think you all should vote fsm
[9:30 AM] waddle: he has cancer for gods sakes!!!
[9:30 AM] yugikun: ues
[9:31 AM] waddle: =P
[9:31 AM] yugikun: one of the most easily cureable cancers according to wikipedia
[9:31 AM] waddle: D:
[9:31 AM] yugikun: beside
[9:31 AM] waddle: how dare you even say that
[9:32 AM] yugikun: if he comes 2nd
[9:32 AM] waddle: He's going through a lot you know
[9:32 AM] waddle: no
[9:32 AM] waddle: 31st/1st
[9:32 AM] waddle: check birthday topic
[9:34 AM]yugikun: and everyone ignored the fact that i read hentai
Still voting for slow.
Social that's a little mean and disrespectful to post that in my opinion. Also, we're not allowed to vote.
Waddle, please don't try make us take the sympathy vote for FSMM He's got cancer yes, we really all want him to get better and we feel bad for him but you shouldn't use it as an advantage to win votes.
Quote from: Yugi on January 29, 2013, 02:40:19 PM[9:31 AM] yugikun: one of the most easily cureable cancers according to wikipedia
What the fuck
Quote from: Sterling ArcherYeah, did I mention I have cancer?
Relevant.
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on January 29, 2013, 02:47:35 PMWhat the fuck
It said on wikipedia that 60% of Stomach cancer patients survive it after surgery.
Cancer isn't a joke. Any cancer can be deadly, well as far as I'm aware.
Don't dare correct me...
Uh, yeah. Try more reliable websites, where it ranges from 75% to 4%
I really don't get why you even thought of saying that
Because it's Socialfox and he doesn't know how to hold his tongue.
I know, noone likes statiistics for surgery survivals.
I can't feel concerned to everyone who has a disease. Besides, one of my friends has breast cancer, and everyone's laughing at him because of that. I have concern for him because He's one of my closest friends and I know what he's going through with everyone laughing at him.
It depends on how early it is caught, among other things. It was very rude to say, though, Yugi-Fox.
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on January 29, 2013, 02:45:01 PMWaddle, please don't try make us take the sympathy vote for FSMM He's got cancer yes, we really all want him to get better and we feel bad for him but you shouldn't use it as an advantage to win votes.
Quote from: Yugi on January 29, 2013, 02:40:19 PM[9:31 AM] waddle: =P
How early was the cancer caught? Out of Interest.
idk it's not a topic I enjoy talking about with him.
Okay then.
Everyone needs to take a chill pill, just vote when the time comes. FSM having cancer shouldn't have anything to do with this thread. (I'm still confused as to why Yugi posted that chat log in the first place.)
Quote from: Waddle Bro on January 29, 2013, 03:05:54 PM
Still, you did say it, just letting you know it's not funny.
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on January 29, 2013, 03:15:01 PMStill, you did say it, just letting you know it's not funny.
Lol he always makes those jokes xD
Good.
Hope FSM gets better soon.
I'll add my game later tonight probably. Additionally, we'll open the poll for voting at 8:00 PM CST on Thursday (the 31st).
I'll try to spruce up my Red vs. Blue game for next round I think.
That doesn't mean it's reliable!
But that does mean that I can be mad when people say mean things about it. ::)
because what I said was "meaner" than what socialfox said
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on January 29, 2013, 04:05:26 PMbecause what I said was "meaner" than what socialfox said
...I never said that. Don't drag me into this. Waddle didn't seem to take great offense to it, so none of you should either.
My only comment for any of the games is for FSM's:
I think your game would be better if Happy Mask Salesman knew who got the masks. That way, he can push for lynches on the people who have them, and humans can potentially get a better handle on who the Happy Mask Salesman is.
I'm also not sure how I feel about the masks being permanent now. Because of this, it's much harder for the Happy Mask Salesman to win. Anyone who gets the Deku or Goron mask can easily prove their humanity, and this problem is only exacerbated if the masks are redistributed every day. On the other hand, if the wolves don't get the masks, they could be in big trouble, and it'd make it very difficult for the Happy Mask Salesman to win.
Quote from: vermilionvermin on January 29, 2013, 04:36:34 PMvery difficult for the Happy Mask Salesman to win.
But that's what makes it FUN.
Making another text... I hope he's awake.
Quote from: vermilionvermin on January 29, 2013, 04:36:34 PMI'm also not sure how I feel about the masks being permanent now. Because of this, it's much harder for the Happy Mask Salesman to win. Anyone who gets the Deku or Goron mask can easily prove their humanity, and this problem is only exacerbated if the masks are redistributed every day. On the other hand, if the wolves don't get the masks, they could be in big trouble, and it'd make it very difficult for the Happy Mask Salesman to win.
Wait what? The masks will still be redistributed every Night.
Quote from: vermilionvermin on January 29, 2013, 04:36:34 PMMy only comment for any of the games is for FSM's:
I think your game would be better if Happy Mask Salesman knew who got the masks. That way, he can push for lynches on the people who have them, and humans can potentially get a better handle on who the Happy Mask Salesman is.
I'm also not sure how I feel about the masks being permanent now. Because of this, it's much harder for the Happy Mask Salesman to win. Anyone who gets the Deku or Goron mask can easily prove their humanity, and this problem is only exacerbated if the masks are redistributed every day. On the other hand, if the wolves don't get the masks, they could be in big trouble, and it'd make it very difficult for the Happy Mask Salesman to win.
I agree with the underlined, but the fact that the Happy Mask Salseman can only be killed by lynching makes it much easier for him to survive.
Quote from: Yugi on January 29, 2013, 04:38:54 PMBut that's what makes it FUN.
By "very difficult," I mean that there are plausible circumstances that would result in it being impossible for him to win. For example, if all three masks go to humans, he's not going to win because those people can just confirm themselves as humans and guarded. If a role is designed in such a way that a player can play it perfectly and lose, it's designed wrong.
Quote from: Waddle Bro on January 29, 2013, 04:40:11 PMWait what? The masks will still be redistributed every Night.
I was joking.
Quote from: LiggyWolf Shaman - Every night phase, can choose one player. At the end of that night phase, the color of the player he chose is revealed to him.
Spy - Every night phase, can write out one anonymous message to the Wolf Assassin. The message will be delivered to the Wolf Assassin at the beginning of the next day phase. The message may contain whatever information that the player wishes, but the message has a limit of 200 letters. (For the sake of legibility, punctuation and spaces will not count.) The Wolf Assassin will not be told which messages comes from the Agent.
Wolf Assassin - Every night phase, may opt to kill a player. Allied with the wolves, and counts for their victory condition, but does not know the identity of either at the start.
Agent - Every night phase, can write out one anonymous message to the Wolf Assassin. The message will be delivered to the Wolf Assassin at the beginning of the next day phase. The message may contain whatever information that the player wishes, but the message has a limit of 200 letters. (For the sake of legibility, punctuation and spaces will not count.) The Wolf Assassin will not be told which messages comes from the Agent.
Informant - At the end of each night phase, receives the name and color of the Wolf Shaman's seering target. Does not prevent the Wolf Shaman from receiving his report. Additionally, every night phase, may opt to kill a player. If he attempts to kill the same player as the Wolf Assassin, the target survives and the Wolf Assassin dies instead.
Guardian - May choose a player each night. That person is immune to dying that night phase, regardless of how many attempts are made to kill him.
Reviver - While alive, all players vote on a dead player at night. The player with the most amount of votes who has not been revived before is revived at the end of the night. Is told he's a normal human.
Human - A bipedal animal with opposable thumbs that is capable of intelligent thought. Usually.
Human - Harmless.
Human - Er.
Human - Mostly harmless.
Human
???
I assure you it's just as cool as it sounds. No fluff, this is pure TWG and investigation here. Not going to try and candy coat this game by putting a theme or story onto it! Not that theme games aren't cool, of course.
Some really neat ideas, Liggy!
But I think there's kind of an obvious strategy for the Wolf Spy. Can't he just say
"I'm the actual Wolf Spy. To prove it, I will wolf Jimmy. Once you are confident in my identity, include the phrase "outrageously suspicious" in one of your day phase posts."
and start the day phase with a united wolf team?
Why do I keep thinking that this is TWG 48 and that it's called Haute Couture
That's why the Human Spy can vigi!
Yeah I fully expect there to be three deaths every night. Kinda hard to work around that.
Derp.
By Human Spy I meant Informant.
Quote from: Waddle Bro on January 29, 2013, 04:40:11 PMWait what? The masks will still be redistributed every Night.
Oh, I thought that was changed in between the two versions. Never mind that, then. I still think there's an issue, though, of people being confirmed human by the masks. If Bobby gets the vigi mask and two people die that night, he can confirm himself as human. Same goes for the seering mask.
Quote from: Liggy on January 29, 2013, 05:21:02 PMThat's why the Human Spy can vigi!
Yeah I fully expect there to be three deaths every night. Kinda hard to work around that.
Woops! Missed that. Looks great in that case.
Make the vigi a kill guard instead?
jimmy>bobby just sayin
Game title because I forgot to give it one so I made it up just now:
No, Mr. Bond, I expect you to die.
Some feedback/questions for the prospective hosts:
Slow: You've mandated anonymity while simultaneously stating that guessing one another's true identities isn't the point of the game. What, then, is the point of the anonymity? Just to have a bit of fun? I'm certainly not against that, and it could be interesting to watch the wolves try to leverage the general chaos that erupts (because believe me, it will) to remain inconspicuous, but I think you should be mindful that the game might not "feel" much like a TWG, for what that's worth. That's not to say it's not worth trying, of course. I'd probably sign up. 2/10 with cardflipping and general craziness seems balanced, though be mindful that an early wolf lynch could grossly tip the scales in the humans' favour, particularly if the other wolf is the kind of player prone to just giving up when the odds are stacked against him--something I've seen on NSM in the past. You might try changing this to a 3/15, though that would be a long game.
FSM: You're heading in the right direction with this. I'm assuming the guard can't guard himself? If so, you've probably done a decent job protecting against alliance formation, assuming that was your goal. I do agree with verm that the wolves should be able to use the mask powers. You might consider changing the Tribute to a Sensor-type role that is told who received a mask (but not which mask he received) at the beginning of each night phase. (I just don't find the Tribute roles that interesting, to be honest--no one likes sacrificing himself in a TWG, no matter how much it might help his team.) This might mean that the Sensor and Link link up quite quickly (i.e. by Night 2), however.
Like verm, I'm not sure what the HMS's strategy should be. Have you considered allowing him to assign the two non-Link masks? That would allow him to give masks to players that look suspicious and force the humans to choose between lynching a potential wolf and handing the HMS a mask. I was going to suggest you have him assign all three masks, but of course that doesn't work with Link in the picture. How wedded are you to the Link role? Either way, I'd recommend you check out this game (http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/vbz/showthread.php?t=85514) from FFR (here's its postgame (http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/vbz/showthread.php?t=86332)), which is similar to what I think you're trying to do here.
BDS: Looks like a pretty standard alliance game. I would take the blinders off the Oni wolf to try and even things out. You might consider moving the Psychic's results to the end of Night, as well. Yes, I know this is a 3/9, but the humans have a Psychic AND a Seer, plus a Guard. I'm assuming it won't be revealed in the topic if the red tourist is attacked, as that would all but confirm him.
You might consider amping your wolves up a bit and adding a couple more humans to compensate; as is, you're looking at a short game with some potentially huge balance swings.
Liggy: Looking good! Twelve players is so tight, though--as I said in my above comments, be prepared for some huge balance swings and general craziness. You might want to toss in a few more humans and adjust accordingly.
Hey! I'll address your comments now.
Quote from: Thiannon on January 29, 2013, 06:58:21 PMSlow: You've mandated anonymity while simultaneously stating that guessing one another's true identities isn't the point of the game. What, then, is the point of the anonymity? Just to have a bit of fun? I'm certainly not against that, and it could be interesting to watch the wolves try to leverage the general chaos that erupts (because believe me, it will) to remain inconspicuous, but I think you should be mindful that the game might not "feel" much like a TWG, for what that's worth. That's not to say it's not worth trying, of course.
Really, I'm just trying to make it so that they don't get caught up trying to guess one another's identity. The last time we did something like this, we were all obsessed with guessing who was who and it really detracted from the actual discovering the wolves aspect. This time I'm planning on issuing a rule that if you even once try to guess another player's NSM identity in the thread, you'll be awarded with instant death or something severe like that. The problem with this site is that we know each other pretty well and tend to be biased based on others' identities, not just their behavior during the game.
Quote from: Thiannon on January 29, 2013, 06:58:21 PM2/10 with cardflipping and general craziness seems balanced, though be mindful that an early wolf lynch could grossly tip the scales in the humans' favour, particularly if the other wolf is the kind of player prone to just giving up when the odds are stacked against him--something I've seen on NSM in the past. You might try changing this to a 3/15, though that would be a long game.
I could see that happening; and while I would really hope that wouldn't happen I realize it's sometimes unavoidable. I would like to go 3 out of 15, but I highly doubt enough people would sign up. If we had enough people willing to play, I would be more than happy to add three players to the list, but as stated before I kind of doubt we'll even get twelve. In fact, I was even considering doing 3/12 and making one of the current humans a wolf, just to balance out the ratio.
Whoops, I meant a 3/12 there, yeah. I think you might be surprised by the number of sign-ups you get--people seem to really want to play your game, and NSM TWG in general seems to be pretty popular lately. It's something to keep in mind for when sign-ups roll around if you do win, anyway.
Thanks for answering my questions!
thiannon for twc
You would never be able to meet my list of demands!
Quote from: Thiannon on January 29, 2013, 06:58:21 PMBDS: Looks like a pretty standard alliance game. I would take the blinders off the Oni wolf to try and even things out. You might consider moving the Psychic's results to the end of Night, as well. Yes, I know this is a 3/9, but the humans have a Psychic AND a Seer, plus a Guard. I'm assuming it won't be revealed in the topic if the red tourist is attacked, as that would all but confirm him.
You might consider amping your wolves up a bit and adding a couple more humans to compensate; as is, you're looking at a short game with some potentially huge balance swings.
The reason why Ryu-Jin doesn't know his partners is because, if he didn't, his power would have a greater chance of succeeding (meaning that there might as well just be four wolves), aside from the three specials. Having blinders brings up the possibility of him being wolfed (which would negate the power), adding an extra level of strategy.
You're correct about the wolfsbane. Do you suggest that I add the four "extra" players as permanent players?
Ah what the Hell, said I would post a faction game so here goes!
TWG: It's Complicated.
This is a game with the 3 basic specials, but with a twist! Vigilantes won't all be the same, Guardians won't all be the same and Seer's certainly will not be the same!
Double Trouble
01. Vig-
02. Guardian-
03. Seer-
May use their ability twice on Night 1 and Night 2.
Pass it on
04. Vig- Ability is given to Guardian when killed.
05. Guardian- Ability is given to Seer when killed.
06. Seer- Ability is given to Vig when killed.
The ability that is passed on is 2 shot.
The 2 shot abilities may be used simultaneously with their original ability.
The 2 shot abilities must be used during the next night phase of receiving them.
Once a 2 shot ability is used it is gone, if a player recieves a 2 shot ability but does not use it, it will be passed on to the next player if the player dies.
A bit of everything
07. Vig-
08. Guardian-
09. Seer-
Each player can have 3 extra abilities choosing from 3 Guards, 3 seers and 1 vig.
This teams basic powers are activated on night 2.
Abilities can be used simultaneously, including the one from their basic one.
The abilities must be used on Night 1 or Night 2.
Night and day
10. Vig- Vote counts for a third of the players. (Not shown in vote count)
11. Guardian- May stop a player from being lynched (player with second highest votes is lynched instead)
12. Seer- May seer a player and the colour is revealed publicly.
They can use these similiar abilities during day 1 and 2 only.
Specifics
13. Vig-
14. Guardian-
15. Seer-
Each night may choose a team to use their ability on and a random player from that team (including that person if they choose their own team) will have the ability used on them.
They can do this once only.
This ability is used simultaneously with their basic ones.
Basic roles
Vig- Can kill a player each night
Guardian- Can guard a player each night from killings and seerings
Seer- May find out the colour of a player each night.
Extra things:
Every player has an all round 1 shot guard activated from the beginning of the game. This allows a player to be protected from 1 killing and 1 seering only.
On night 3 every player's special ability (apart from their basic ones) will be gone after night 3 (this exludes Team 2, 'Pass it on' as their power requires team deaths.
...How do the wolfings work?
Quote from: Waddle Bro on January 30, 2013, 11:56:32 AM...How do the wolfings work?
A wild guess: there are no wolves, this is a team game. Boy can correct me.
Otherwise, please no more games to this sign-up. We have five good games already, and choosing one from these is enough pain. Over half of these will get the 2-round prohibition. And that is sad for the host candidates. More games would mean more sad people not being able to host for some time. And more pain for the voters. And that would also be sad.
FSM just packed his bags and left the clinic! :D
Text:
"Mashi tinychat when I get there :3 I've got so much stuff to talk about!"
It is a faction game.. :P
Faction games are games with multiple teams. Each team has its own win condition. In a game like this, the win condition will likely be to kill everyone on the other teams and be the last team standing.
Here are two examples: [1] (http://llforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=393) [2] (http://llforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=4151)
Back and now I won't leave for a while.
Quote from: Thiannon on January 29, 2013, 06:58:21 PMFSM:*lotsa spaghetti*
Thank you for your comments. I've made some changes now, so feel free to check it out.
The reason why I don't like to let go of the Tribute is because of the theme(Tael and Tatl are fairies, they revive people in the game).
Also thx Verm.
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on January 29, 2013, 02:36:44 PMWaddle/FSM: If the person holding the Deku mask is sniped will the snipers ability be lost?
Can the guardian guard himself?
When the tribute dies and revives someone is that player protected from everything but an insta?
Yes. No. No.
I'm afraid I have to make a post about this, sorry for teh off-topicness:
Quote from: Yugi on January 29, 2013, 02:40:19 PM[9:31 AM] yugikun: one of the most easily cureable cancers according to wikipedia
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Although I don't react to my cancer so seriously, that was a dick thing to say. I have met people here who are struggling for their lives, so I can't even describe how awful that was.
You just lost some respect from me, gj.
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on January 29, 2013, 03:15:01 PMStill, you did say it, just letting you know it's not funny.
I thought it was funny. lol
It was so obvious that he wasn't serious. :P
Everybody relax, I know that I'm going to be fine. I don't need any sympathy votes. I have my entire life ahead of me, so I'll have time to host. In fact, it would hurt my feelings if you'd give me any sympathy votes. If I'm going to win,
I want it to be a fair win.
So please, vote for the game you think is the most fun. :D
Quote from: Bird on January 29, 2013, 03:32:20 PMHope FSM gets better soon.
also bird actually said something that was unrelated to twg in any means omfg
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on January 29, 2013, 07:51:31 PMThe reason why Ryu-Jin doesn't know his partners is because, if he didn't, his power would have a greater chance of succeeding (meaning that there might as well just be four wolves), aside from the three specials. Having blinders brings up the possibility of him being wolfed (which would negate the power), adding an extra level of strategy.
You're correct about the wolfsbane. Do you suggest that I add the four "extra" players as permanent players?
Hmmm; before voting begins, I'll make a few changes to my game as well based on this.
Okay guys so I'm writing down everything about my game and how it will plan out and stuff, I've made some slight edits that I'll stick in later if not now (on phone). Quite a big change (sort of) that will be made is that all the super powers powers (excluding the basic ones) will dissappear after night 3 (apart from the 'Pass it on' Team's)
I will also give everyone a tempo guard (Meaning everyone has a guard on them until seer'd or vigi'd by someone)
Okay, game edited. Uh, every team has 5 seers, 5 kills and 5 guards but not team 'Specifics' (team 5). Is that okay? Team 5 are the ones who choose the team to use the power on, one time only.
I've decided to add the navigation "gimmick" to my game; read the interesting effects and comment. :P
And please excuse the terrible "Google Translate Latin." :P I don't know Latin, unfortunately, but I have Latin names for the areas of Umbra. D:
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on January 30, 2013, 10:32:23 AMAh what the Hell, said I would post a faction game so here goes!
TWG: It's Complicated.
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I don't think this game is as balanced as it could be. The Green team has an advantage, in that one of their members can claim and have themselves killed without too much of a disadvantage for their team. The orange team has powers that are really easy to prove, while the purple team has powers that are really easy to fake. Also, the purple team kinda gets the short end of the stick, and the blue team can do everything the red team can do and more.
Urghfhgnf
Purple has a 2/3 chance of finding out a teammate with the first seer though, and guardian is guaranteed to guard his team and the vig is guaranteed to not kill their team with 1 kill so their quite powerful.
Oh wait, I should change the 1 shot all round guard to not blocking off team kills and seer's...
Whoops, my mistake, BDS. I didn't realize that Ryu-jin's full role was passed to his chosen player. I'm dead set against conversion roles, personally, but I certainly wouldn't tell you to take it out of the game. In that case, you definitely made the right call in not letting him know the other wolves, and the game is likely pretty balanced.
Also Bird nice faction game there!
Sorry, I really don't like it when people use a sickness for their or another persons advantage. This happens a lot where I come from, and these are the people that laughed at and bullied one of my friends for having breast cancer.
Where is Bird's faction game? :P
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You can remove that "Updated Link" from the poll, I already made the final changes to the game this morning, meaning Waddle's post is now useless.
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on January 29, 2013, 01:34:44 PMSpecial Gimmick: Navigation; throught the game, the tour moves across various parts of the planet Umbra, on a course determined randomly (though areas cannot repeat until three other locations have been visited). Each area gives special, temporary effects to certain roles (please excuse the terrible "Google translate Latin" :P):
Overworld: Seer is told exact role of seered player.
Palus Magna (swamp): Miju-maron gets two lynching votes.
Dire ad Aqua (underwater ocean): Gialux is seered as green.
Ignis Parva (inside of a volcano): Gi-Jinado gets two lynching votes.
In Specus Caverna (cave inside a cavern underneath the volcano): Ryu-Jin can seer.
Ruins of Ultima Fini (mechanical core of the planet): No effects.
I like the locations BDS. However, most of the locations give the wolves an advantage. Isn't it better to create some more locations that benifit the special humans, or even locations that make normal humans stronger?
updated link troll
Quote from: davy on January 31, 2013, 06:45:45 AMI like the locations BDS. However, most of the locations give the wolves an advantage. Isn't it better to create some more locations that benifit the special humans, or even locations that make normal humans stronger?
I added one more location that doubles the guard's power, and another location with no effect.
Well this is dead.
Omg Yugi, we have same brains. Look in comments discussion part, I posted in it like same time as you did here.
If no one posts in a topic for a day, it doesn't mean it's dead. :P
Of course, after saying that, it can't hurt to remind the mods... *nudge nudge*
Haha, welp, 'phase ends in 15 hours'
;)
Poll lasts 48 hours, so the winner will be revealed in about 12.
:D
Well fuck.
At least I get to post mine in the next host sign up thread.
I know you'll win next time SlowPokemon!!!
Wow... 0_o Do people dislike my idea that much? :P
I liked your game BDS, but as you saw, there was a lot of good games this time!
Can I just ask, who voted my game? :P
Quote from: The Boy Who Cried Wolf on February 02, 2013, 01:36:19 PMI liked your game BDS, but as you saw, there was a lot of good games this time!
...but that's the same thing... :P Apparantly, they have no incentive to vote for it, despite continuous changes... it's consistently/typically gotten 1-2 votes...
Happens to me a lot, but no matter how much effort I put into it, I scrap it!
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on February 02, 2013, 01:54:21 PM...but that's the same thing... :P Apparantly, they have no incentive to vote for it, despite continuous changes... it's consistently/typically gotten 1-2 votes...
Hey now, up till now I've been posting the same game since August and it's never gotten many votes. You don't complain about it, you just keep trying, make a new one, or give up. Do I need to call a WAHmbulance?
or how about a whamburger and some french cries
i couldnt help myself
Yikes...
I was just wondering what people didn't really like about it (or what makes it less appealing than other games), or how I could improve it... Especially because the new hosting rule, chances are limited (captain obvious statement).
Question: If it hasn't done well before, why did you put it up again, knowing the stakes?
Quote from: MaestroUGC on February 02, 2013, 07:27:21 PMQuestion: If it hasn't done well before, why did you put it up again, knowing the stakes?
Because I've changed it, especially recently, and because I only have one other significant game idea (involving the "travel gimmick" as well, although implemented in a different way) that I feel is particularly inspired, although it will most likely fare the same.
However, although the premise is slightly-less "recycled" (meaning, I have used different parts of the Umbra story before, though fortunately, it is something that you can cram backstory into, although that's going off of the point), there is, in my opinion, less "meat on the bones" in terms of story.
I think your game's got a lot of nifty ideas, but the conversion role is a deal-breaker for me personally. Conversions make any thoughts that another player is acting human worthless because they could easily be converted. Additionally, it really sucks to be converted. All the work you've been putting in to help your team ends up hurting your chances of winning!
EDIT: A few questions about some roles:
Can Ryu-Jin wolf?
What happens if the two Millers are the only two humans remaining? Can the wolves wolf them or what?
If the wolves wolf a Miller, are the special humans included in the list of people who could die in their place?
Quote from: vermilionvermin on February 02, 2013, 08:32:41 PMI think your game's got a lot of nifty ideas, but the conversion role is a deal-breaker for me personally. Conversions make any thoughts that another player is acting human worthless because they could easily be converted. Additionally, it really sucks to be converted. All the work you've been putting in to help your team ends up hurting your chances of winning!
EDIT: A few questions about some roles:
Can Ryu-Jin wolf? Response: Yes, but only if he submits the wolfing vote first.
What happens if the two Millers are the only two humans remaining? Can the wolves wolf them or what? Response: I never really thought about that before (because there was originally only one), but that would be essential (so the answer would probably be yes), since it would mean that the humans might have a better chance of winning in that situation, because they control the lynch
If the wolves wolf a Miller, are the special humans included in the list of people who could die in their place? Response: Yes, any humans, but that excludes the other red human.