Hey, just a quick little heads-up. Despite my promises last week, there will not be an update this Friday.
The reason being that I just got a new apartment. I'm moving on Saturday so there's a lot of packing and preparation to do. With the already busy university and work schedule, there simply hasn't been enough time to work on NSM. Depending on how quickly I get settled to the new place and get my things sorted, there might be some kind of update next week. If not, I might have to take a couple of weeks off with the site features.
Sorry about that. At least the apartment has a two-year lease so this kind of disruptions shouldn't happen too often in the future.
Bah! Oh well. Everyone's got a life (er, most of us anyways). Congrats on your apartment but please don't keep us waiting too long!
At least you've given us two years to prepare for the next disappointment.
i cannot stop laughing
there'd better be more stuff by the time i get back >:O
in all seriousness this is kinda bound to happen when you have one person working on such a huge project. take your time :)
Quote from: K-NiGhT on January 23, 2014, 07:47:59 PMin all seriousness this is kinda bound to happen when you have one person working on such a huge project. take your time :)
No! We will work you into the ground and make you regret ever running this site.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on January 23, 2014, 05:31:44 PMi cannot stop laughing
Glad you find some enjoyment in this.
Yes sir, Jamaha sir!
Saturday Surprise???
:D
Not likely. But you get an award for optimism.
This is going to sound incredibly rude, and it probably is.
The biggest problem with this sort of thing, and new updaters, etc is that they all set expectations. Don't say you're going to do an update every 2 weeks, or a site fix every week, just because you have a couple weeks of free time. It will not last. You're being idealistic. If you're going to set an expectation, people will hold you to it. Just say you'll do your damn best and everyone should just be appreciative of what happens.
And honestly, with a site that runs on volunteers, that's all we naturally expect anyhow.
End random thoughts.
...how long have you been here? :P I'm surprised we even got two feature updates out of this. Jamaha's a busy dude.
That's fine that he's busy, but then he shouldn't say he's going to do something every week!
I'm not surprised. This sort of thing has been happening for years. I'm just tired of the fact that everyone makes these grand statements and then fails miserably.
Also when these things are internal, fine. But when it becomes site news that you're going to do something every week, do it. To the daily/weekly visitor to the site, this is extremely disappointing.
Quote from: spitllama on February 12, 2014, 06:29:03 PMI'm not surprised. This sort of thing has been happening for years. I'm just tired of the fact that everyone makes these grand statements and then fails miserably.
I totally agree.
And this doesn't just go for site updates and moderators, either. ::)
Pro tip: NEVER brag about or even
announce something before it's finished.
Or take requests if you're going to be that guy who doesn't actually do it.
I'm aware. Your comments are well justified. The reason I originally tried to do this, was to set myself a goal to follow. Without a set goal I don't really accomplish all that much. In this case the goal was too optimistic.
Where I went wrong, though, was misjudging the amount of time available this semester. I thought based on the free time I had last year that I could easily squeeze in a few hours a week to work on NSM. Yesterday I had to do my studies and prepare for work until 10pm. After all that, I'd just like to relax for a couple of hours before going to bed so I can actually wake up the next morning.
So yeah, I failed and disappointed everyone. I know that well. Had I not announced this and just kept it to myself I probably wouldn't have gotten anything done. I was hoping the external pressure would keep me going, as I hate failing and disappointing people. But as it turns out, I ended up doing that anyway.
I swear to god if people on this website spent half as much time being productive as they do being melodramatic and throwing themselves pity parties
Perhaps people have more important things to be productive at, yes? You all should feel ashamed at how ungrateful you are towards someone spending their own free time on something you seem to take for granted.
You shouldn't feel too bad about a bunch of entitled brats JaMaHa. They just aren't able to comprehend someone having more of a life (and the responsibilities involved) than just a web community it seems.
Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on February 13, 2014, 11:39:05 AMPerhaps people have more important things to be productive at, yes? You all should feel ashamed at how ungrateful you are towards someone spending their own free time on something you seem to take for granted.
You shouldn't feel too bad about a bunch of entitled brats JaMaHa. They just aren't able to comprehend someone having more of a life (and the responsibilities involved) than just a web community it seems.
Feeling ashamed has never really been my thing.
And I
hate to have to correct a genius such as yourself, bin, but you meant to say "self-entitled." "Entitled" implies that we "brats"
are entitled, whereas "self-entitled" implies that we only
think we are. Don't feel bad; even the best of us need a vocabulary lesson sometimes.
Oh Slow.
:-\
I wouldn't consider myself a self-entitled brat, but I'd always enjoyed it when JaMaHa posted an update on the main page. It was fun coming here and seeing an update of peoples' arrangements and his articles that he'd do for anniversaries and holidays.
Why am I talking in past tense lol
I am EE, not English major. That's what PR department is for.
It would be nice if you would at least try to read and think about things rather than immediately resort to some unrelated petty insults. You do have to realize that not only does JaMaHa not *have* to upgrade the site for your pleasure, but he doesn't even have to be hosting it at all. Everything put into it is of his own volition and taken out of his free time he could be spending relaxing after spending hours in the freaking lab.
Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on February 13, 2014, 12:19:42 PMI am EE, not English major. That's what PR department is for.
It would be nice if you would at least try to read and think about things rather than immediately resort to some unrelated petty insults. You do have to realize that not only does JaMaHa not *have* to upgrade the site for your pleasure, but he doesn't even have to be hosting it at all. Everything put into it is of his own volition and taken out of his free time he could be spending relaxing after spending hours in the freaking lab.
I totally agree
Quote from: Jamaha on February 13, 2014, 06:21:04 AMI was hoping the external pressure would keep me going
This entirely justifies making the claim in the first place, to me. For a site where people mostly come in search of
specific pieces from video games, a little irregularity isn't the end of the world. Most of the people who actually stay updated on this stuff are forum goers anyways, and really, what harm does that do when we're all already accustomed to the way this site works? Jamaha, if this helps keep you motivated (and from the way the first two weeks went, it probably does), I say do it. Keep saying to us that you'll get one done every week. For volunteer work, especially, a deadline is always helpful, even if it isn't met.
Ungrateful? No. You're misreading me. I am extremely grateful for the changes that have been made thus far. I don't see an speck of my comment that suggests otherwise.
What I am addressing is the fact that individuals make promises that they cannot keep. That's it.
Quote from: spitllama on February 12, 2014, 06:13:59 PMJust say you'll do your damn best and everyone should just be appreciative of what happens.
And honestly, with a site that runs on volunteers, that's all we naturally expect anyhow.
This was not meant to be condescending in any way. This
is a site made from volunteers. I do not naturally expect JaMaHa to make an update every week. As I said before, it's idealistic to think that you will have enough time every week to keep up with things. Every update that came on its own time would be exciting and appreciated. However, when an expectation is made, that changes. All of a sudden there's a standard to be met.
@Fierce, as someone who creeped on this site for years before joining, I can vouch that there are regular visitors who come to check for updates and would be interested in these site fixes (as we've seen, they do not solely affect the forums). From what make a site look successful and professional, there are large differences between internal expectations ("Hey submitters, I'll have this new sheet update up on Friday!") vs. external ("General community and frequent visitors, you can expect an update every week").
So once again, there aren't enough "thank you"s to cover all the success that this site has seen and all of the updates that our moderators have created, etc. The thing that we need to rethink is the fact that promises are nonchalantly thrown around with no backing to them besides personal motivation. If you cannot meet the expectation, don't set it. That's it.
That makes sense, actually, assuming that you meant "if you cannot meet the external expectation, don't set it", as that's the idea I gathered from the rest of your post. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you're just basically just saying that the deadline should still have been set, just in the forums only, yes? Because if so, then I completely agree, that sounds like a reasonable compromise that still provides regular motivation (as is evident from this, even forum goers who expect it will still get frustrated at lack of follow through) without potentially harmful expectations.