Skotein has "Pokemon Reorchestrated" (PREO)
...then there's Zelda Reorchestrated (ZREO)
Martin Leung has "The Video Game Pianist"
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I want to come up with a solid project name for the work I do, but I can't put my finger on anything:
*Pokemon re-arranged
*Pokemon Piano Collections
*Pokemon re-transcribed
*The Pokemon Pianist
*PMD Arranger
*PMD for Piano
The problem is all these are either too general (doesn't describe my focus ["Pianist" implies I perform my pieces, which is rare]) or too specific (limits what I can do, like if I ever want to do some Super Smash Bros. stuff on the side).
Another problem is I noticed Skotein actually CHANGED his Youtube account name to his project name Pokemon Reorchestrated, a risky move in my opinion, but seems to have worked well for him because his project became bigger than himself (involving all sorts of collaboration), whereas I don't see my efforts ever evolving to such heights (nor do I want to).
There's also the eventual goal of maybe wanting to associate my REAL name with my internet alias without everyone going "who's that?"
HELP MEEEEE
How about World's Best Updater 8)
Or How about Bespokeben ;)
Daww thanks ;D
BUT SERIOUSLY THOUGH IM AT AN IMPASSE
I'm frantically looking through the nomenclature of most of fan projects/private art studios ("so-and-so's Creations" seems to be common in crafting circles of artistry), but nothing seems to fit well. I mean, I GUESS I could just run with Bespinben's Arrangements, but I've been doing that forever already.
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Man, that is hard. Honestly, I've been looking for one too. Never found the perfect one though :P
Quote from: mariolegofan on April 02, 2015, 01:47:26 PMMan, that is hard. Honestly, I've been looking for one too. Never found the perfect one though :P
Well at least you can sympathize with me :)
tl;dr; What I'm trying to get at is what if eventually I try applying to some position at a publishing house some day 5 years from now, and the only credentials I have is a "oh here's my Youtube channel with a couple million views". Not very respectable in the music community I would think. Now what if instead, in that hypothetical application, I said, "This is my website. These are the services I offer. My work includes the following "yadaydaydaPokemonyadyayda" all which were very well received publicly."
Perhaps "Only the Besp"?
Idk, that was first thing I came up with.
Project Infinity?
How about just using your name? Why hide behind a pseudonym? Why would you need a brand name?
Quote from: MaestroUGC on April 02, 2015, 01:52:23 PMHow about just using your name? Why hide behind a pseudonym? Why would you need a brand name?
It's not that I'm desperately trying to cling to a pseudonym, it's that since I already have one, trying to use my real name at this point for a semi-professional creative endeavor (if I ever have one [ex: Zekiel's Music Transcription]), seems to be a bit unfeasible without sacrificing the following of fans I've already made. The issue is by doing this, I worry if it would prevent me from entering certain circles later on (esp. those in academia).
Quote from: AwesomeYears on April 02, 2015, 01:50:40 PMProject Infinity?
Not a bad idea for
an album title... That said, let's say I do make an album (not that I'm really personally interested to do so at this point, BUT WHAT IF). What would be most appealing to select audiences?:
Bespinben
[cover art]
Project Infinity | Bespinben
[cover art]
Project Infinity | Pokemon Piano Collections
[cover art]
Project Infinity |
The only reason you'd need to worry about some circles of academia is either due to snobbery or lack of quality. And I don't think your current fans would mind you shifting to using your real name on your work.
Probs Bespinben, I feel like that you should only use your full name (in music) for composing albums, not arranging albums.
Quote from: MaestroUGC on April 02, 2015, 02:08:17 PMThe only reason you'd need to worry about some circles of academia is either due to snobbery or lack of quality. And I don't think your current fans would mind you shifting to using your real name on your work.
Haha thanks, that's reassuring. If snobs will snob, well that's their loss. I just don't like how there is such a schism between art music and music media. For example, I know my University would tell me if I wanted to be a Video Game Composer I should go get a degree in Audio Design from the Commercial Music department, as opposed to pursuing a degree in Music Composition from the Theory/History department. I feel like there's some kind of snobbery underlying that.
(Not saying I intend to become that, because I can barely compose anything to save my life besides a 4 measure cadence...)
And I agree with you about people
not minding, it's just, seeing as how I'm still getting messages like "Woah you're back? I thought you were dead!" on Youtube from ACTIVE users even 6 months after my return, it leads me to believe that if such a LARGE event as my return doesn't seem to communicate, how much will me making a SUBTLE change, like my username, communicate? Far less I would think.
"I'm the one seeking my degree, let me figure out how to use it."
Also YouTube isn't a good gauge on making these decisions, most of your views will likely be in passing, maybe only a tenth of your subscribers will actually see everything you do.
Most names like "Pokemon Reorchestrated" feel pretentious(or over-pretentious to me) because they feel like they need to set the bar so high that no one else can call their Pokemon arrangements "the reorchestrated" versions, if you get what I mean(because it's kinda difficult to explain). This same thing applies to using a definite article in context with "Video Game Pianist", there would be no equivalent to you, because you are the definite video game pianist and somehow you'd be better than anyone else in that sense, because you're the only one who could be called as that.
I personally believe that you should let your work speak for yourself, instead of trying to do it the other way around.
also ninja'd x3
Quote from: MaestroUGC on April 02, 2015, 02:33:18 PMmost of your views will likely be in passing, maybe only a tenth of your subscribers will actually see everything you do.
Holy cow, tell me about it! Sub count is so deceptive. When I barely started my channel in 2011, the 100 subs I had pretty much all were real ones, whereas coming back finding it in the thousands, there all seem to be missing when I upload something. Not that I really care, I just love doing what I do, but for the sake of this discussion of the viability of my abilities in a more professional setting, it does give me cause to wonder.
Quote from: Waddle Bro on April 02, 2015, 02:37:58 PMMost names like "Pokemon Reorchestrated" feel pretentious(or over-pretentious to me) because they feel like they need to set the bar so high that no one else can call their Pokemon arrangements "the reorchestrated" versions, if you get what I mean(because it's kinda difficult to explain). This same thing applies to using a definite article in context with "Video Game Pianist", there would be no equivalent to you, because you are the definite video game pianist and somehow you'd be better than anyone else in that sense, because you're the only one who could be called as that.
I personally believe that you should let your work speak for yourself, instead of trying to do it the other way around.
I see what you mean with the word "THE". I can think of some more notable examples (ex: THE Piano Guys). If they can live up to their "THE"-ness though, I don't see much an issue. Seems to have a marketing/psychological effect too. However, I don't think I would ever consider titling my work with any degree of "the"-ness, as most of it is just transcription work. Those guys can get away with it because, imo, they really do stand out.
Parsinger's Piano Dungeon: Ben Rescue Team
www.pianodungeon.com ???
mmmmmmm not bad Noc, not bad -- we're getting somewhere
(vague enough for snobbish types curious passerby... but implicitly hints at my affinity for Mystery Dungeon)
I figured it had some nice alliteration and pun so it rolled off the tongue really well
Maybe "Bespinben, Explorer of Harmony" (BEOH)?
I've read the OP and some posts, but I still find unclear what you're aiming for... Is it a name for Youtube/a website like ZREO? Or is it more like a professional alias that relates to your name like Charlie Sheen (first one that came to my mind)? Because combining both is really really hard. x_o
Quote from: DonValentino on April 03, 2015, 10:59:08 AM"Bespinben, Explorer of Harmony" (BEOH)?
YUSSS another great album name. Oh that's just ;D ;D ;D Mmm mmm mmm!
I've realized as this conversation has progressed I'm looking for names for quite a few things. Maybe charting this out will help:
Identity: Bespinben
Business/Brand: (To be determined -- should it involve Bespinben? Plenty of things do, like LPers Facebook pages [ex: Smosh, Pewdiepie, etc.])
Business website: (WIP-- pianodungeon.com) [still is questionable, but it's the best I've got so far]
(There's also the desire that the business/brand be closely related to the website url [ex: www."so-and-so".com ---> front page "So-and-So's Creations")Ideally all
projects should be able to be based off the parent page, as opposed to PREO which has multiple sites (doulbleteam.com, pokemonreo.com, etc.).
[Sample: bespinben.com/albums/explorersofharmony vs. pianodungeon.com/albums/projectinfinity]
{Wow, after writing that, bespinben.com felt really intuitive.... pianodungeon sounds like a trading card store with a piano in it}
Glad you liked it xD
Ohh, understood.
Quote from: Bespinben on April 03, 2015, 11:38:22 AMBusiness website: (WIP-- pianodungeon.com) [still is questionable, but it's the best I've got so far]
Well if I were you, I'd create a "bespinben.com/albums/explorersofharmony" before someone else does! Sounds perfect imo
pianodungeon is not bad, but the relation with Pokemon Mystery Dungeon is very very very vague. The problem I see is that the reference is indeed pursued, but badly executed: "dungeon" could mean literally anything and could be used in infinity of contexts, you don't think of PMD just with the word "dungeon".
If you really prefer this over bespinben.com though, I'd suggest changing it to "mysterymusicdungeon" or something like that to make the PMD reference more clear (but still subtle!) while keeping the music reference and not necessarily only PMD music, even if it would be the main focus I suppose.
Quote from: Bespinben on April 03, 2015, 11:38:22 AMIdentity: Bespinben vs. Benjamin Persinger
Both are good options, but how about if both coexisted? At OCRemix (http://ocremix.org/) a lot of people use both names on their remixes and it seems to work well. People remember better the alias and consequently they can easily refer to the real name. This is extremely convenient imo, since it gives you the chance to choose between both an artistic pseudonym and your real name depending on the situation (it gives both a professional and a more casual way of presenting yourself). Besides, Bespinben is a great alias, it would be a pity to just throw it away.
Quote from: Bespinben on April 03, 2015, 11:38:22 AM
Business/Brand: (To be determined -- should it involve Bespinben? Plenty of things do, like LPers Facebook pages [ex: Smosh, Pewdiepie, etc.])
If you went with "pianodungeon" or something like the "mysterymusicdungeon" I suggested, then
Quote from: Bespinben on April 03, 2015, 11:38:22 AM(There's also the desire that the business/brand be closely related to the website url [ex: www."so-and-so".com ---> front page "So-and-So's Creations")
would be hardly possible at all! If you really want to go this way, then forget that business/brand=website. It's another option and it could work, but it's a lot more convenient to have a single name for EVERYTHING (like Smosh or Pewdiepie, as you said). Easier to recognize and search for. This is another reason I'd go with bespinben.com, brand also "Bespinben".
Whew, lengthy post! Resuming, Benjamin "Bespinben" Persinger, Bespinben, bespinben.com would be my options. But it's really up to you! Hope I helped you decide even if it's a little!
I like bespinben.com :D
Just going to throw a few phrases out there:
"Bespinben's Musical Paradise"
"Welcome to the world of Bespinben"
Quote from: DonValentino on April 03, 2015, 12:28:32 PMIf you went with "pianodungeon" or something like the "mysterymusicdungeon"...
How about a compromise: www.pianomysterydungeon.com ?
Quote from: DonValentino on April 03, 2015, 12:28:32 PMGlad you liked it xD
if I were you, I'd create a "bespinben.com/albums/explorersofharmony" before someone else does! Sounds perfect imo
It does have a nice ring to it!
Quote from: DonValentino on April 03, 2015, 12:28:32 PMpianodungeon is not bad, but the relation with Pokemon Mystery Dungeon is very very very vague. The problem I see is that the reference is indeed pursued, but badly executed: "dungeon" could mean literally anything and could be used in infinity of contexts, you don't think of PMD just with the word "dungeon".
Yeah I realized that too after a bit :/
"Piano Dungeon, is that the newest BDSM trend?"Though, it could serve as a cool subsection of the would-be site, like a forum or blog or something.
Quote from: DonValentino on April 03, 2015, 12:28:32 PMhow about if both coexisted? At OCRemix (http://ocremix.org/) a lot of people use both names on their remixes and it seems to work well. People remember better the alias and consequently they can easily refer to the real name. This is extremely convenient imo, since it gives you the chance to choose between both an artistic pseudonym and your real name depending on the situation (it gives both a professional and a more casual way of presenting yourself). Besides, Bespinben is a great alias, it would be a pity to just throw it away.
I think you're right. For example, there's
Hirokazu "Hip" Tanaka (Metroid). Having both names associated with me doesn't seem as unwieldy as I once thought yesterday.
Quote from: DonValentino on April 03, 2015, 12:28:32 PMIf you went with "pianodungeon" or something like the "mysterymusicdungeon" I suggested, then
would be hardly possible at all [to streamline site url with brand]! If you really want to go this way, then forget that business/brand=website. It's another option and it could work, but it's a lot more convenient to have a single name for EVERYTHING (like Smosh or Pewdiepie, as you said). Easier to recognize and search for. This is another reason I'd go with bespinben.com, brand also "Bespinben".
100% agreement.
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Thanks Don! That was exactly what I was hoping to get out this. Huge help.
Quote from: Latios212 on April 03, 2015, 12:38:03 PMI like bespinben.com :D
Just going to throw a few phrases out there:
"Bespinben's Musical Paradise"
"Welcome to the world of Bespinben"
"...this is the portal that leads to the world inhabitated only by pianos."
"...before you download, you must answer some questions."
"Did you play Explorers of Harmony before?"
(A. Yes; B. No)
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ONE LAST THOUGHT. The Video Game Pianist (Martin Leung), actively uses his alias. It's the URL for his personal site, as well as much of his other social media. HOWEVER, I noticed his Facebook page DOES NOT use that. Perhaps he keeps Facebook unassociated with that name for his collegiate activities? (He's working on a Doctorate after all)
Play me a song mister pianomon