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Title: [GCN] Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn - "Eternal Bond" by Tobbeh99 & ThatGamer
Post by: Zeta on August 21, 2015, 12:57:37 PM
Submission Information:

Series: Fire Emblem
Game: Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn
Console: Nintendo GameCube
Title: Eternal Bond
Instrumentation Solo Piano
Arrangers: Tobbeh99 (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3658) & ThatGamer (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?action=profile;u=4327)

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Title: Re: [Wii] Super Smash Bros. Brawl - "Ike's Theme\Eternal Bond" by ThatGamer
Post by: Tobbeh99 on August 21, 2015, 03:19:07 PM
Here for reference:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf2Si2VohEk
Title: Re: [Wii] Super Smash Bros. Brawl - "Ike's Theme\Eternal Bond" by ThatGamer
Post by: Tobbeh99 on August 21, 2015, 03:28:23 PM
Great arrangement! some feedback:

The song goes in D major/B minor fix the key signature.

I think you have over-complicated the rhythm in some cases.

measure 2 RH could easily be 16th(dot) 16th 16th(dot) could easily be a 8th triplet and the LH could be 8th triplet(quarter note+ 8th note)-tie-16th-16th-8th, and the same on beat 3 and 4.
all the 16th(dot) 16th 16th(dot) could easily be 8th triplets.
At measure 42 (0:43 in the video), the bass should be 8th(dot) 16th 8th triplets or 8th 16th rest 16th 8th triplets.
Measure 6 last beat: I think that should be either a 16th(dot)+8th, or a 8th triplet.

The sheet needs better formatting could easily fit into 4 pages, pno., copyright etc. Someone with better Finale will have to fix that for you.

Title of the song:
In Super Smash Bros Brawl it is called Ike's Theme, but In Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn it is called Eternal Bond.
If you are submitting this for Super Smash Bros Brawl I recommend only having the title as "Ike's Theme" because that is the song's title.

I don't know if the song is so different that we could need 2 sheets of this, one fore Fire Emblem and one for Super Smash Bros., probably not. But it might be good to have 2 sheets for the sake that some might only know the song from Fire Emblem and some only from Super Smash Bros. It's up for discussion.


Title: Re: [Wii] Super Smash Bros. Brawl - "Ike's Theme\Eternal Bond" by ThatGamer
Post by: ThatGamer on August 21, 2015, 04:23:43 PM
Quote from: Tobbeh99 on August 21, 2015, 03:28:23 PMGreat arrangement! some feedback:

The song goes in D major/B minor fix the key signature.

I think you have over-complicated the rhythm in some cases.

measure 2 RH could easily be 16th(dot) 16th 16th(dot) could easily be a 8th triplet and the LH could be 8th triplet(quarter note+ 8th note)-tie-16th-16th-8th, and the same on beat 3 and 4.
all the 16th(dot) 16th 16th(dot) could easily be 8th triplets.
At measure 42 (0:43 in the video), the bass should be 8th(dot) 16th 8th triplets or 8th 16th rest 16th 8th triplets.
Measure 6 last beat: I think that should be either a 16th(dot)+8th, or a 8th triplet.

The sheet needs better formatting could easily fit into 4 pages, pno., copyright etc. Someone with better Finale will have to fix that for you.

Title of the song:
In Super Smash Bros Brawl it is called Ike's Theme, but In Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn it is called Eternal Bond.
If you are submitting this for Super Smash Bros Brawl I recommend only having the title as "Ike's Theme" because that is the song's title.

I don't know if the song is so different that we could need 2 sheets of this, one fore Fire Emblem and one for Super Smash Bros., probably not. But it might be good to have 2 sheets for the sake that some might only know the song from Fire Emblem and some only from Super Smash Bros. It's up for discussion.

Most of this can't be done on Finale Notepad 2012. I'll change the title to "Ike's Theme", and try the 16th\8th note changes. Besides that, will need someone with Finale 2014 to do the rest.
Title: Re: [Wii] Super Smash Bros. Brawl - "Ike's Theme\Eternal Bond" by ThatGamer
Post by: ThatGamer on August 21, 2015, 04:35:26 PM
Triplets are trippy (see what I did there) on Finale Notepad 2012, so pretty much I'm going to fix the name and have someone else fix the other stuff. I can't fix the stupid triplets.
Title: Re: [Wii] Super Smash Bros. Brawl - "Ike's Theme" by ThatGamer
Post by: Maelstrom on August 21, 2015, 04:53:09 PM
This is not the correct game.
Believe it or not, this is not a remix, and is "Eternal Bond" from Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn.
As nothing is changed about this song between games, you must use the first appearance and resubmit it as such.
Title: Re: [Wii] Super Smash Bros. Brawl - "Ike's Theme" by ThatGamer
Post by: ThatGamer on August 21, 2015, 04:55:13 PM
Quote from: Maelstrom on August 21, 2015, 04:53:09 PMThis is not the correct game.
Believe it or not, this is not a remix, and is "Eternal Bond" from Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn.
As nothing is changed about this song between games, you must use the first appearance and resubmit it as such.

Okay, Radiant Dawn isn't on the list, so this will be the first song for that category!!!
Title: Re: [Wii] Super Smash Bros. Brawl - "Ike's Theme" by ThatGamer
Post by: Tobbeh99 on August 21, 2015, 05:13:42 PM
Here I fixed the formatting and some other stuff that I pointed out in my comment:
MUS (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24842881/Ike%27s%20Theme.zip)

And yes Maelstrom is correct, this theme originates from Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn and should be categorized there. Edit the submission and change the game+song name. In the sheet you'll have to change the copyright,game name and title; the composers are correct and taken from Fire Emblem.
Title: Re: [GCN] Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn - "Eternal Bond" by ThatGamer
Post by: ThatGamer on August 21, 2015, 05:22:35 PM
Alright, edited. Damn, I love that rich quality\sound on Finale 2014. Wish I had a copy...
Title: Re: [GCN] Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn - "Eternal Bond" by ThatGamer
Post by: Tobbeh99 on August 21, 2015, 05:42:40 PM
Quote from: ThatGamer on August 21, 2015, 05:22:35 PMAlright, edited. Damn, I love that rich quality\sound on Finale 2014. Wish I had a copy...

Yes it's amazing! Real quality sound, the sound is so good that I made a CD with some of my arrangements, for some of my relatives, with only using Finale!
Title: Re: [GCN] Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn - "Eternal Bond" by ThatGamer
Post by: ThatGamer on August 21, 2015, 05:45:07 PM
Quote from: Tobbeh99 on August 21, 2015, 05:42:40 PMYes it's amazing! Real quality sound, the sound is so good that I made a CD with some of my arrangements, for some of my relatives, with only using Finale!

How much does it cost? Might get a copy, it can do so many things the Finale Shitpad Notepad can't do...
Title: Re: [GCN] Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn - "Eternal Bond" by ThatGamer
Post by: Tobbeh99 on August 21, 2015, 06:22:05 PM
Quote from: ThatGamer on August 21, 2015, 05:45:07 PMHow much does it cost? Might get a copy, it can do so many things the Finale Shitpad Notepad can't do...

Prices can vary between different stores. At Finale's MakeMusic Store (https://store.makemusic.com/Store/default.aspx?tab=notation&_ga=1.130928591.1780818948.1422195292) it costs 600$.
Title: Re: [GCN] Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn - "Eternal Bond" by ThatGamer
Post by: ThatGamer on August 21, 2015, 06:43:01 PM
Quote from: Tobbeh99 on August 21, 2015, 06:22:05 PMPrices can vary between different stores. At Finale's MakeMusic Store (https://store.makemusic.com/Store/default.aspx?tab=notation&_ga=1.130928591.1780818948.1422195292) it costs 600$.

Holy fuck. No way in hell I can afford that. You are really lucky. Must have a good job.
Title: Re: [GCN] Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn - "Eternal Bond" by ThatGamer
Post by: Tobbeh99 on August 21, 2015, 06:48:29 PM
Quote from: ThatGamer on August 21, 2015, 06:43:01 PMHoly fuck. No way in hell I can afford that. You are really lucky. Must have a good job.

Lol I have no job. I usually don't buy lot's of stuff like other people do, but instead saves lot's of money, I also got some money after selling some stocks. I also got mine a bit cheaper where I bought it, around like 470$.
Title: Re: [GCN] Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn - "Eternal Bond" by ThatGamer
Post by: ThatGamer on August 21, 2015, 06:51:39 PM
Quote from: Tobbeh99 on August 21, 2015, 06:48:29 PMLol I have no job. I usually don't buy lot's of stuff like other people do, but instead saves lot's of money, I also got some money after selling some stocks. I also got mine a bit cheaper where I bought it, around like 470$.

I have a job and don't even make enough to buy it. Stocks are illegal for my age here, but I would buy some if I could...

Anyways, you are still lucky to have it. It's an absolutely gorgeous music program.
Title: Re: [GCN] Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn - "Eternal Bond" by ThatGamer
Post by: Olimar12345 on August 21, 2015, 07:49:06 PM
Student discounts are your friend.

Also, please move this discussion elsewhere, you have a habit of getting off topic, ThatGamer.
Title: Re: [GCN] Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn - "Eternal Bond" by ThatGamer
Post by: ThatGamer on August 21, 2015, 08:31:53 PM
Quote from: Olimar12345 on August 21, 2015, 07:49:06 PMStudent discounts are your friend.

Also, please move this discussion elsewhere, you have a habit of getting off topic, ThatGamer.

Hey, you're here! So, what's missing from this arrangement?
Title: Re: [GCN] Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn - "Eternal Bond" by ThatGamer
Post by: Tobbeh99 on September 03, 2015, 10:25:26 AM
I seems like I missed to change some notes in measure 35 when I edited your sheet. Make the 16ths into 8th triplets.
Here's how to do it:
1) delete the 16th notes, or maybe all the notes in the measure
2) Rewrite the measure
3) you make triplets by creating a note, in this case an 8th, then use the triplet tool an click on the 8th note. A window will pop up but just click OK. And after that you can fill in with more 8ths.
Title: Re: [GCN] Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn - "Eternal Bond" by ThatGamer
Post by: Latios212 on September 30, 2015, 12:19:34 PM
Tobbeh, would you like to continue work on this one?
Title: Re: [GCN] Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn - "Eternal Bond" by ThatGamer
Post by: Tobbeh99 on September 30, 2015, 12:23:34 PM
Hmm was thinking the same as TG got banned. It would be a shame if such a great arrangement gone to waste. So y I accept it, but it might take a while.
Title: Re: [GCN] Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn - "Eternal Bond" by ThatGamer
Post by: Latios212 on September 30, 2015, 12:25:17 PM
Up to you! I'll leave this here with your name stuck on it, for the time being. If you wanna drop it later, just delete it.
Title: Re: [GCN] Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn - "Eternal Bond" by Tobbeh99 & ThatGamer
Post by: Tobbeh99 on October 01, 2015, 02:53:50 PM
Ok I edited the arrangement. I did a lot to improve it. But one thing I'm not certain of is the harmonies, I'm really bad at hearing those, so I'm really not sure they are correct.
Title: Re: [GCN] Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn - "Eternal Bond" by Tobbeh99 & ThatGamer
Post by: braix on October 01, 2015, 05:12:22 PM


Quote from: Tobbeh99 on October 01, 2015, 02:53:50 PMBut one thing I'm not certain of is the harmonies, I'm really bad at hearing those, so I'm really not sure they are correct.
Same. I just bs it so it sounds okay and hope it's correct
Title: Re: [GCN] Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn - "Eternal Bond" by Tobbeh99 & ThatGamer
Post by: TheMarioPianist on October 01, 2015, 05:49:23 PM
My perfect pitch didn't notice any discrepancies in the harmonies, so I think you're good there. The only thing I would question is the playability of that triplet in measure 31. Jumping octaves that fast...RIP right hands everywhere...personally I would probably keep the top notes, but if no one has an issue with leaving it how it is then I'm ok with it. Otherwise, solid arrangement!
Title: Re: [GCN] Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn - "Eternal Bond" by Tobbeh99 & ThatGamer
Post by: Tobbeh99 on October 02, 2015, 03:08:36 AM
Concerning the harmonies, I'm thinking particularly about the seconds (sounds a bit dubious) and the notes with only octaves (if I'm missing any harmony notes) in the A section.
Title: Re: [GCN] Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn - "Eternal Bond" by Tobbeh99 & ThatGamer
Post by: Tobbeh99 on October 09, 2015, 03:03:31 PM
Bump
Title: Re: [GCN] Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn - "Eternal Bond" by Tobbeh99 & ThatGamer
Post by: Zeta on October 09, 2015, 04:35:15 PM
This submission has been accepted by Bespinben (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2510).

~Zeta, your friendly NSM-Bot