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Title: [GB] Final Fantasy Adventure - "Jema's Realization" by FireArrow
Post by: Zeta on November 01, 2015, 01:14:18 PM
Submission Information:

Series: Final Fantasy
Game: Final Fantasy Adventure
Console: Game Boy
Title: Jema's Realization
Instrumentation Solo Piano
Arranger: FireArrow (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3340)

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Title: Re: [GB] Final Fantasy Adventure - "Jema's Realization" by FireArrow
Post by: FireArrow on November 01, 2015, 01:18:26 PM
Title: Re: [GB] Final Fantasy Adventure - "Jema's Realization" by FireArrow
Post by: Bespinben on November 06, 2015, 05:02:29 PM
Being stylistically similar, many of the things I said regarding beaming, voice leading, and layer usage on the previous Final Fantasy Forever submission also apply here to this piece:
http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=7262.msg298339#msg298339

Here is a demonstration:
Spoiler
[MIDI] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35209091/Jema%27s%20Realization%281%29.mid) [MUS] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35209091/Jema%27s%20Realization%281%29.mus) [PDF] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35209091/Jema%27s%20Realization%281%29.pdf) [MUSX] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35209091/Jema%27s%20Realization%281%29.musx)

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35209091/required.PNG)
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Also, while I hate to be that guy, I must point out that at least 1 tempo indicator and 1 dynamic level are required as per NSM Formatting Guidelines.
Title: Re: [GB] Final Fantasy Adventure - "Jema's Realization" by FireArrow
Post by: Olimar12345 on November 06, 2015, 05:23:59 PM
Also something is up with one of those quotation marks.
Title: Re: [GB] Final Fantasy Adventure - "Jema's Realization" by FireArrow
Post by: FireArrow on November 06, 2015, 08:38:09 PM
I'll get around to all that good stuff tomorrow, but out of curiosity, is there a reason why you changed some of the eight notes in mm. 4, 5, and 7 to quarter notes? Am I hearing the note lengths incorrectly or is it more of a stylistic thing?
Title: Re: [GB] Final Fantasy Adventure - "Jema's Realization" by FireArrow
Post by: Olimar12345 on November 06, 2015, 08:40:52 PM
It appears to be an attempt to make it easier to read while sacrificing accuracy. Me no likey.
Title: Re: [GB] Final Fantasy Adventure - "Jema's Realization" by FireArrow
Post by: Bespinben on November 06, 2015, 09:41:54 PM
Quote from: Olimar12345 on November 06, 2015, 08:40:52 PMIt appears to be an attempt to make it easier to read while sacrificing accuracy. Me no likey.
The arrangement requires the regular usage of the sustain pedal in order to be playable, so as far as accuracy is concerned, there is virtually no difference between a sustained 8th and a sustained quarter. Seeing as they are functionally equal, I opted for the latter for the sake of ease of reading.
Title: Re: [GB] Final Fantasy Adventure - "Jema's Realization" by FireArrow
Post by: FireArrow on November 09, 2015, 06:09:30 PM
I'd like to get OK'd before I edit the OP, so I'm just gonna drop the mus here: [MUS] (https://www.dropbox.com/s/ond9e3qp5x0sxt8/Jema%27s%20Realization%20II.mus?dl=0)

Major difference from your demonstration:
-I'm hearing the phrasing as one large chuck in the beginning of the measure and one small chuck at the end, so I beamed it as such. I'm not hearing a lot of the ones you notated, or at least to an extent worth notating.
-I'm gonna side with Olimar for accuracy. If someone wishes to use my arrangement for remixing or something like that, I'd like them to have an accurate representation of the piece.
-Because of the above, mine is a lot uglier. ;3 Let me know if it's too unappealing, I don't have any strong feelings about keeping it either way.

Title: Re: [GB] Final Fantasy Adventure - "Jema's Realization" by FireArrow
Post by: Bespinben on November 09, 2015, 09:40:47 PM
Quote from: FireArrow on November 09, 2015, 06:09:30 PM-I'm gonna side with Olimar for accuracy. If someone wishes to use my arrangement for remixing or something like that, I'd like them to have an accurate representation of the piece.
-Because of the above, mine is a lot uglier.
Sure that's fine, but I firmly believe that material can be cleanly presented no matter what the content. Consider the following.

Quote from: FireArrow on November 09, 2015, 06:09:30 PMMajor difference from your demonstration:
-I'm hearing the phrasing as one large chuck in the beginning of the measure and one small chuck at the end, so I beamed it as such.
Beaming can relate to phrasing but in this case, it's primarily affected by voice preservation and layer management. This is why in my demonstration, I sometimes break up a four-8ths beam group, because you don't want to swap a voice between layers while still beaming another voice over it.

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35209091/layers.jpg)

See how the above example splits alto and soprano voices into separate layers, including the "-let" of the "tri-pi-let"?

Let's take for example measure 4. Here's how you notated it:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35209091/layers%281%29.PNG)

Here's how it would look incorporating the above principles concerning beaming:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35209091/layers%282%29.PNG)
Title: Re: [GB] Final Fantasy Adventure - "Jema's Realization" by FireArrow
Post by: FireArrow on November 11, 2015, 04:58:44 PM
How's this? (https://www.dropbox.com/s/ond9e3qp5x0sxt8/Jema%27s%20Realization%20II.mus?dl=0)
Title: Re: [GB] Final Fantasy Adventure - "Jema's Realization" by FireArrow
Post by: Olimar12345 on November 24, 2015, 10:14:56 AM
rly gud! A couple little things and I think we're done here:

-few formatting things: arr. name not aligned, left quotation mark is weird.(while Bespinben hates to be "that guy," I LOVE to be that guy!)
-You should really extend that first ending until the second ending. The general rule of thumb for endings is that if the first and second ending brackets will be too long, you'd probably be better off using a D.C/D.S.
-You can also remove the ending bracket on the last measure of the second ending. (either that or extend everything under it)
-y no beam on the eighths in measures 1 & 2?
-y tha tie at the end of the first layer voice (LH) in measure 3?

[ul=https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59554832/nsm/NSM%20subs/Jema%27s%20Realization%20II12345.mus]Check it[/url]
Title: Re: [GB] Final Fantasy Adventure - "Jema's Realization" by FireArrow
Post by: FireArrow on November 24, 2015, 10:25:12 PM
Danks, just gonna use your file because I'm a lazybones.

Quote from: Olimar12345 on November 24, 2015, 10:14:56 AM-y no beam on the eighths in measures 1 & 2?

It was me trying to be fancy with "use beaming to show phrasing." i guess it was 2fancy4u
Title: Re: [GB] Final Fantasy Adventure - "Jema's Realization" by FireArrow
Post by: Olimar12345 on November 24, 2015, 11:09:59 PM
kewl
Title: Re: [GB] Final Fantasy Adventure - "Jema's Realization" by FireArrow
Post by: Zeta on November 24, 2015, 11:10:12 PM
This submission has been accepted by Olimar12345 (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?action=profile;u=83).

~Zeta, your friendly NSM-Bot