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Title: [ARCADE] New Rally-X - "Music from New Rally-X" by Jegilmer
Post by: Zeta on November 14, 2015, 06:29:08 PM
Submission Information:

Series: Other
Game: New Rally-X
Console: ARCADE
Title: Music from New Rally-X
Instrumentation Solo Piano
Arranger: Jegilmer (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3732)

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Title: Re: [ARCADE] New Rally-X - "Music from New Rally-X" by Jegilmer
Post by: jegilmer on November 14, 2015, 06:32:13 PM
I only have Finale Notepad and export XML from Sibelius, I know the formatting guidelines, I am sorry my mus looks like crap. My PDF is how I wanted the sheet formatted if anyone wants to help me out.

Here is the video:
Title: Re: [ARCADE] New Rally-X - "Music from New Rally-X" by Jegilmer
Post by: Sebastian on November 14, 2015, 07:14:09 PM
I'll take a look when I get on my computer.
Title: Re: [ARCADE] New Rally-X - "Music from New Rally-X" by Jegilmer
Post by: jegilmer on November 15, 2015, 08:37:39 PM
Awesome, thanks! :D
Title: Re: [ARCADE] New Rally-X - "Music from New Rally-X" by Jegilmer
Post by: Sebastian on November 18, 2015, 01:41:10 PM
Excellent work!
Other than the formatting, you did a great job with this piece!
Some thoughts:
- Measures 2-4 are a little messy. I'm not sure if there is some way you can use cross-staff in Musescore.
- Also, through that same passage, the timing is a little different than what you have. It's 16th tied to 16th, not 16th tied to eighth.

Other than this stuff and the formatting, very good!
Since you can't edit the formatting in Notepad here are the files that you can use for the OP:
[MUSX] (https://www.dropbox.com/s/8eiqqf3n9ohre59/Rally%20X.musx?dl=1) |[MUS] (https://www.dropbox.com/s/2tu621hbebi29hr/Rally%20X.mus?dl=1) |[PDF] (https://www.dropbox.com/s/u7ynzwpu4q67stg/Rally%20X.pdf?dl=1) |[MIDI] (https://www.dropbox.com/s/b15sd1lz65m4v7t/Rally%20X.mid?dl=1) |

Tell me if there is anything you disagree with. Good Job!
Title: Re: [ARCADE] New Rally-X - "Music from New Rally-X" by Jegilmer
Post by: jegilmer on November 19, 2015, 07:42:17 AM
Quote from: mariolegofan on November 18, 2015, 01:41:10 PMSome thoughts:
- Measures 2-4 are a little messy. I'm not sure if there is some way you can use cross-staff in Musescore.
- Also, through that same passage, the timing is a little different than what you have. It's 16th tied to 16th, not 16th tied to eighth.

Yeah there is a way to do cross staff notes in Sibelius, I should have done that  :p
This was actually one of my first arrangements from 2 years ago! Haha
But oh yeah you're totally right about the rhythm in the second section!
Title: Re: [ARCADE] New Rally-X - "Music from New Rally-X" by Jegilmer
Post by: jegilmer on November 19, 2015, 07:53:14 AM
Also I'm not too sure, but the F double sharp might be easier to read if it was just a G natural. I understand why you put it since it sounds like a leading tone, but I think this piece is using the blues scale right there though, so G natural would be fine since it is acting as a flat 7.

Not a big deal, but whenever we get some other input we'll see! Thanks for all of the help MLF!  :D
Title: Re: [ARCADE] New Rally-X - "Music from New Rally-X" by Jegilmer
Post by: Sebastian on November 19, 2015, 09:14:35 AM
Quote from: jegilmer on November 19, 2015, 07:53:14 AMAlso I'm not too sure, but the F double sharp might be easier to read if it was just a G natural. I understand why you put it since it sounds like a leading tone, but I think this piece is using the blues scale right there though, so G natural would be fine since it is acting as a flat 7.
You may be right. This is in A Major so I think you're right.
Title: Re: [ARCADE] New Rally-X - "Music from New Rally-X" by Jegilmer
Post by: FireArrow on November 19, 2015, 05:49:08 PM
Measure 3-5 should be in G major.
Why is the D natural in measure 11 in parenthesis?
A lot of the articulation is unnecessary, particularly the staccatos in the bass. I guess you can leave it if you want to.
I dunno about the D double sharp, that particular sequence (subtonic -> leading tone -> tonic) in a major key has always stumped me.
Title: Re: [ARCADE] New Rally-X - "Music from New Rally-X" by Jegilmer
Post by: Sebastian on November 19, 2015, 08:21:04 PM
Quote from: FireArrow on November 19, 2015, 05:49:08 PMMeasure 3-5 should be in G major.
You sure? I was thinking G mixolydian.
Title: Re: [ARCADE] New Rally-X - "Music from New Rally-X" by Jegilmer
Post by: FireArrow on November 19, 2015, 08:29:59 PM
Quote from: mariolegofan on November 19, 2015, 08:21:04 PMYou sure? I was thinking G mixolydian.

There are no F's present so you can't just assume they'll be natural. Anyways, the final two notes are (D-A) -> (G), which would imply the usually D major -> G major authentic cadence.
Title: Re: [ARCADE] New Rally-X - "Music from New Rally-X" by Jegilmer
Post by: Sebastian on November 20, 2015, 09:58:29 AM
Quote from: FireArrow on November 19, 2015, 05:49:08 PMMeasure 3-5 should be in G major.
We should change that. I was debating whether to put that section in G or leaving it as is. Now that you say this:
Quote from: FireArrow on November 19, 2015, 08:29:59 PMThere are no F's present so you can't just assume they'll be natural. Anyways, the final two notes are (D-A) -> (G), which would imply the usually D major -> G major authentic cadence.
I'm sure it's in G major now.

Quote from: FireArrow on November 19, 2015, 05:49:08 PMWhy is the D natural in measure 11 in parenthesis?
I think that was an accident. I must of hit "P" accidentally.

Quote from: FireArrow on November 19, 2015, 05:49:08 PMA lot of the articulation is unnecessary, particularly the staccatos in the bass. I guess you can leave it if you want to.
I'm gonna have to disagree here. The left hand sounds more detached and separated the left hand. Btw, those were in before I edited the sheet.

Quote from: FireArrow on November 19, 2015, 05:49:08 PMI dunno about the D double sharp, that particular sequence (subtonic -> leading tone -> tonic) in a major key has always stumped me.
Aye, this sequence stumps me as well. I did this more on a gut feeling *gasp!*. I didn't really like that G natural :P


Title: Re: [ARCADE] New Rally-X - "Music from New Rally-X" by Jegilmer
Post by: FireArrow on November 20, 2015, 04:02:28 PM
Another thing, could you move the start of the In Game music down a system? It would be nice to keep a 4 measure hyper meter.

Quote from: mariolegofan on November 20, 2015, 09:58:29 AMI'm gonna have to disagree here. The left hand sounds more detached and separated the left hand. Btw, those were in before I edited the sheet.

Re-listening to the piece I'm gonna stand corrected. Only remove the staccatos in the L.H. from measure 16 to 23 - there's a noticeable difference in note lengths for the two sections and using staccatos is probably the most appropriate way to notate that (no matter how much I hate mass staccato-ing notes.)
Title: Re: [ARCADE] New Rally-X - "Music from New Rally-X" by Jegilmer
Post by: jegilmer on November 21, 2015, 08:33:26 AM
Quote from: FireArrow on November 19, 2015, 08:29:59 PMThere are no F's present so you can't just assume they'll be natural. Anyways, the final two notes are (D-A) -> (G), which would imply the usually D major -> G major authentic cadence.

Yeah I agree with you on this! I'm not sure if it's necessarily G major, but the key should be G major because G is definitely the tonic note (starts and ends in G as you already stated). With the B natural going to Bb a lot, it makes me think this is using the blues scale based on G. Either way, it does need to be changed to a G major key to show that it is in some sort of scale based on G.

Good call! :D
Title: Re: [ARCADE] New Rally-X - "Music from New Rally-X" by Jegilmer
Post by: jegilmer on November 21, 2015, 08:37:09 AM
Quote from: FireArrow on November 19, 2015, 05:49:08 PMWhy is the D natural in measure 11 in parenthesis?

Yeah as you guys have already figured out, that D natural in m. 11 shouldn't be in parenthesis. The C sharp in parenthesis in measure 16 should be okay though since for the majority of the In Game Music has had a C natural.

Thanks for helping with this sheet! :)
Title: Re: [ARCADE] New Rally-X - "Music from New Rally-X" by Jegilmer
Post by: Sebastian on November 21, 2015, 09:03:07 AM
No problem!
You need me to update it for you?

EDIT: After further research, I think that double sharp should stay.
"You can augment notes in the scale, so if F# is a note in the scale, but G is not (say in the scale of A-major). And you want to emphasize the fact that you are augmenting F# up a half step (say in a triad/chord), you write F## , even though you could have just as easily but a natural in front of the G. But that is just my recollection - which is why this is a comment"
Title: Re: [ARCADE] New Rally-X - "Music from New Rally-X" by Jegilmer
Post by: jegilmer on November 21, 2015, 12:28:29 PM
Alright that's fine! And yes please, I don't think I can to key changes in finale notepad :/
Title: Re: [ARCADE] New Rally-X - "Music from New Rally-X" by Jegilmer
Post by: Sebastian on November 21, 2015, 01:09:42 PM
No prob
[MUSX] (https://www.dropbox.com/s/2rvh169zkheilyv/New%20Rally-X%20Music.musx?dl=1) |[MUS] (https://www.dropbox.com/s/bhfo6xiy17oc2yy/New%20Rally-X%20Music.mus?dl=1) |[PDF] (https://www.dropbox.com/s/dkwteffsu7t2qic/New%20Rally-X%20Music.pdf?dl=1) |[MIDI] (https://www.dropbox.com/s/hs51wwd9ysmqxdn/New%20Rally-X%20Music.mid?dl=1) |
Title: Re: [ARCADE] New Rally-X - "Music from New Rally-X" by Jegilmer
Post by: PetrifiedLasagna on November 21, 2015, 04:47:53 PM
I just realized the Rally-X song that I havealways liked is not the original. Too bad nobody could see how confused I looked when I played the Arcade game  :P . Still, you made a great sheet and I enjoyed listening to it.
Title: Re: [ARCADE] New Rally-X - "Music from New Rally-X" by Jegilmer
Post by: jegilmer on November 26, 2015, 09:18:26 AM
Thanks a lot! :) I'm glad you enjoyed it, I decided to arrange it after I couldn't find one of this music anywhere on the internet! Yeah I was surprised when I first learned that it wasn't the original as well!
Title: Re: [ARCADE] New Rally-X - "Music from New Rally-X" by Jegilmer
Post by: jegilmer on November 26, 2015, 09:22:53 AM
I updated the files, thanks MLF! :D
Title: Re: [ARCADE] New Rally-X - "Music from New Rally-X" by Jegilmer
Post by: Sebastian on November 28, 2015, 06:20:51 AM
Looks sharp!
Anyone else have any thoughts on it?
Title: Re: [ARCADE] New Rally-X - "Music from New Rally-X" by Jegilmer
Post by: PetrifiedLasagna on November 29, 2015, 06:28:50 PM
Looks great, very well organized. Time to start practicing on the piano  ;)
Title: Re: [ARCADE] New Rally-X - "Music from New Rally-X" by Jegilmer
Post by: Bespinben on November 29, 2015, 08:07:28 PM
I updated the layout for the final site version (particularly by tidying up the presentation of the split systems).

Also, the Fx should actually be G natural (which I believe was the original spelling, ironically). Whatever MLF was quoting was out-of-context. You can trust MLF's help on most things, but not music theory as pertaining to accidental spelling.
Title: Re: [ARCADE] New Rally-X - "Music from New Rally-X" by Jegilmer
Post by: Zeta on November 29, 2015, 08:08:58 PM
This submission has been accepted by Bespinben (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2510).

~Zeta, your friendly NSM-Bot