Submission Information:
Series: Other
Game: Undertale
Console: PC
Title: Death by Glamour
Instrumentation Solo Piano
Arranger: mastersuperfan (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3561)
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Did you know that Jestermusician has done this one too!?? http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=7894.0
I guess it's just some bad coordination in the UNDERTALE project.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TgO-tN5wAM
In this world... it's submit or be outsubmitted.
Then again, JesterMusician's arrangement is of the in-game version, but they're pretty much the same.
Quote from: Tobbeh99 on December 13, 2015, 07:23:55 AMDid you know that Jestermusician has done this one too!?? http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=7894.0
I guess it's just some bad coordination in the UNDERTALE project.
http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=7779.0
http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=7796.0
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi66.tinypic.com%2Ft8afdc.jpg&hash=8be282b2eb86a1ca73c85c3e758293d5c18fb12d)
You did claim this right?
Indeed I did.
I don't believe a claim in an unofficial project holds much weight in this setting.
The general consensus amongst Team Updater is that whichever of the two submissions requires the least editing is the one that will be chosen.
(Decision pending)
Gonna be that one guy and say that MSF's version is in the standard key so it should probably be the one that we keep. However, maybe Jester and MSF could combine their two versions into one mega-ultra version using the best of both?
Hey, someone needs to be "that" guy right?
A key change/transposition can easily be fixed. An overhaul of the entire aesthetic presentation of the sheet, however, cannot, and right now, Jester's sheet takes the cake in that arena.
On the other hand, mastersuperfan's does better at capturing some of the harmonies of the more tense moments of the piece. Knowing Jester though, the lack thereof was likely intentional.
How about combining the 2 arrangements into an collaboration? Since both made such good arrangements, it would be a shame if only one get's credit for it and have his on site. That way we could also gather the attention into one place (topic) and one sheet to review and give feedback on.
Quote from: Dudeman on December 14, 2015, 03:02:16 PMHowever, maybe Jester and MSF could combine their two versions into one mega-ultra version using the best of both?
Quote from: Tobbeh99 on December 14, 2015, 03:09:59 PMHow about combining the 2 arrangements into an collaboration? Since both made such good arrangements, it would be a shame if only one get's credit for it and have his on site. That way we could also gather the attention into one place (topic) and one sheet to review and give feedback on.
hear hear
That would be between the arrangers, not us (updaters & other members). If either of them does not want to collaborate or does not feel that it is necessary, then we have to respect their decision.
Quote from: Bespinben on December 14, 2015, 03:04:30 PMOn the other hand, mastersuperfan's does better at capturing some of the harmonies of the more tense moments of the piece. Knowing Jester though, the lack thereof was likely intentional.
I've been hearing this lately. It seems like the Updating Team is transitioning from "accuracy" to "arranger discretion" (in the loosest sense of the term). We shouldn't just let people leave out notes because they feel like or do this and that because they feel like it. We should strive to keep sheets as accurate as possible while keeping them playable and fun. Even adding a few notes sometimes isn't a problem, but leaving things out shouldn't be done unless the playablility or some other good reason is given.
I'm sorry if I sound rude or disrespectful, Bespinben, but I feel I needed to speak up. :)
Peace.
Quote from: Olimar12345 on December 14, 2015, 03:12:48 PMThat would be between the arrangers, not us (updaters & other members). If either of them does not want to collaborate or does not feel that it is necessary, then we have to respect their decision.
Well yeah, that post was intended for MSF and Jester; sorry if I wasn't clear.
Quote from: mariolegofan on December 14, 2015, 03:14:40 PMI've been hearing this lately. It seems like the Updating Team is transitioning from "accuracy" to "arranger discretion" (in the loosest sense of the term). We shouldn't just let people leave out notes because they feel like or do this and that because they feel like it. We should strive to keep sheets as accurate as possible while keeping them playable and fun. Even adding a few notes sometimes isn't a problem, but leaving things out shouldn't be done unless the playablility or some other good reason is given.
I'm sorry if I sound rude or disrespectful, Bespinben, but I feel I needed to speak up. :)
Peace.
Wrong place to bring this up. And last I checked, the order of importance still goes Playability > Accuracy > Extra stuff ppl add in.
I really didn't intend for this to be do conflicting. I'm willing to cancel my submission in favor of MSF's. I've already got two arrangements on the site, and I like it in Eb minor, so I'll just keep it for my own collection. That said, feel free to take some inspiration from mine if it will improve yours. ;)
Quote from: mariolegofan on December 14, 2015, 03:14:40 PMI've been hearing this lately. It seems like the Updating Team is transitioning from "accuracy" to "arranger discretion" (in the loosest sense of the term). We shouldn't just let people leave out notes because they feel like or do this and that because they feel like it. We should strive to keep sheets as accurate as possible while keeping them playable and fun. Even adding a few notes sometimes isn't a problem, but leaving things out shouldn't be done unless the playablility or some other good reason is given.
I'm sorry if I sound rude or disrespectful, Bespinben, but I feel I needed to speak up. :)
Peace.
I think a big part of it is that double checking accuracy for every voice is a lot of work to the point where the updaters are practically rearranging every sheet from scratch. That begs the question of why we even have arrangers, if the updators are just gonna be retranscribing every voice anyways to double check it. The job of the updaters is to simply to make sure the sheets are at a certain level of quality before going on site.
As an example, Don's Canalave City has an incorrect note in the counter melody. Considering he's an updater, this was probably purposeful. Should Bespinben really of been expected to retranscribe that entire counter melody to find the one wrong note, which doesn't even detract from the quality of the piece, just to bring up a discussion point that may or may not result in any changes? Should he be expected to do that for every single submission? As long as the piece is accurate enough, playable, and meet's our guidelines, I feel it should be allowed on site. If you don't like it, you're always welcome to submit a replacement.
Quote from: JesterMusician on December 14, 2015, 04:58:46 PMI really didn't intend for this to be do conflicting. I'm willing to cancel my submission in favor of MSF's. I've already got two arrangements on the site, and I like it in Eb minor, so I'll just keep it for my own collection. That said, feel free to take some inspiration from mine if it will improve yours. ;)
Thanks much! I've spent a lot of time on this arrangement, as this is definitely the hardest one I've done yet. I'm rather proud of it.
I've been fixing quite a few things lately. Files updated; any feedback?
bump
Quote from: mastersuperfan on December 15, 2015, 02:48:43 PMThanks much! I've spent a lot of time on this arrangement, as this is definitely the hardest one I've done yet. I'm rather proud of it.
I've been fixing quite a few things lately. Files updated; any feedback?
You have done an excellent job on the song.... Personally, I don't see anything wrong with it... Keep up the great work!
bump
Got around to looking at it (now that I am extremely familiar with the piece) and it looks nice. gj
This submission has been accepted by Olimar12345 (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?action=profile;u=83).
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