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Title: [MUL] Tetris - "C Theme" (Replacement) by Yentl Tijssens
Post by: Zeta on April 08, 2016, 02:00:12 PM
Submission Information:

Series: Other
Game: Tetris
Console: Multiplatform
Title: C Theme
Instrumentation Solo Piano
Arranger: Yentl Tijssens (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?action=profile;u=4908)


Replacement Information:

Links to Existing Sheet: MUS (http://www.ninsheetmusic.org/download/mus/55) | MIDI (http://www.ninsheetmusic.org/download/mid/55) | PDF (http://www.ninsheetmusic.org/download/pdf/55)
Replacement Type: Challenge (new arranger)

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Title: Re: [MUL] Tetris - "C Theme" (Replacement) by yentltijssens
Post by: braix on April 08, 2016, 02:34:31 PM
You could go to Utilities>Fit Measures and fit 4 measures per system to avoid having that one weird stretched measure at the end
Title: Re: [MUL] Tetris - "C Theme" (Replacement) by yentltijssens
Post by: Tobbeh99 on April 08, 2016, 03:14:25 PM
Quote from: braixen1264 on April 08, 2016, 02:34:31 PMYou could go to Utilities>Fit Measures and fit 4 measures per system to avoid having that one weird stretched measure at the end

Y, but it won't be able to fit on 1 page if you do so. But y, maybe make it on 2 pages with better measure distribution, maybe better but idk.


Great arrangement anyways!

You could look up [THIS] (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=481.0) first. Your sheet needs proper formatting

Also post youtube videos of the song you've submitted, makes it easier comparing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfxO9RU4VGI
Title: Re: [MUL] Tetris - "C Theme" (Replacement) by yentltijssens
Post by: yentltijssens on April 17, 2016, 02:30:58 AM
Quote from: Tobbeh99 on April 08, 2016, 03:14:25 PMY, but it won't be able to fit on 1 page if you do so. But y, maybe make it on 2 pages with better measure distribution, maybe better but idk.


Great arrangement anyways!

You could look up [THIS] (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=481.0) first. Your sheet needs proper formatting

Also post youtube videos of the song you've submitted, makes it easier comparing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfxO9RU4VGI

Hey! I edited the pdf so it fits the formatting rules. I hope it's good enough now to be uploaded. The problem is that Finale doesn't work and I can't fix it. I make my scores with Sibelius so I do have the xml file.
Title: Re: [MUL] Tetris - "C Theme" (Replacement) by yentltijssens
Post by: PetrifiedLasagna on April 17, 2016, 11:19:24 AM
Quote from: yentltijssens on April 17, 2016, 02:30:58 AMHey! I edited the pdf so it fits the formatting rules. I hope it's good enough now to be uploaded. The problem is that Finale doesn't work and I can't fix it. I make my scores with Sibelius so I do have the xml file.

Sounds great, but the formatting is a little bizarre. If you cut two measures from the first line and one from all the others you would have enough to warrant a second page. Also, I would recommend a molto allegro or vivace, because the tempo is more around 144 BMP.

Also, if you are having trouble with Finale (notepad?), I wouldn't mind helping you format the sheet.
Title: Re: [MUL] Tetris - "C Theme" (Replacement) by yentltijssens
Post by: yentltijssens on April 17, 2016, 12:36:45 PM
Quote from: PetrifiedLasagna on April 17, 2016, 11:19:24 AMSounds great, but the formatting is a little bizarre. If you cut two measures from the first line and one from all the others you would have enough to warrant a second page. Also, I would recommend a molto allegro or vivace, because the tempo is more around 144 BMP.

Also, if you are having trouble with Finale (notepad?), I wouldn't mind helping you format the sheet.

Thank you very much. This is the best I could. You'll find the xml file with this link: https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=BC7871C6407A030C!32766&authkey=!AMexmXauMCY5FCU&ithint=file%2cxml (https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=BC7871C6407A030C!32766&authkey=!AMexmXauMCY5FCU&ithint=file%2cxml)
Title: Re: [MUL] Tetris - "C Theme" (Replacement) by yentltijssens
Post by: PetrifiedLasagna on April 17, 2016, 03:32:52 PM
I am curious, what exactly are you having trouble with in Finale? If you said what you are having problems with, someone might be able to help.

Also, welcome to NSM!  :)
Title: Re: [MUL] Tetris - "C Theme" (Replacement) by yentltijssens
Post by: Pianist Da Sootopolis on April 17, 2016, 05:26:32 PM
The tempo mark of "Vivace" isn't really fitting; the piece is more andante really. If you count the piece it's very much at a walking pace (andante) than a very quick one (Vivace).
Also, make sure to have MM specifications on your tempo marks as well.
Title: Re: [MUL] Tetris - "C Theme" (Replacement) by yentltijssens
Post by: PetrifiedLasagna on April 17, 2016, 06:45:14 PM
The original song in the game had a faster tempo than what was in the sheet itself. The sheet was being played at an allegro (120 BPM) tempo so making it any slower would not help. That is why I recommended a molto allegro which suggests a slightly faster tempo, but there is no marking for that in notepad (unless you made one), so alternatively a vivace could be used which starts at around 160. Although, it would be a little to fast then...
Title: Re: [MUL] Tetris - "C Theme" (Replacement) by yentltijssens
Post by: Pianist Da Sootopolis on April 17, 2016, 08:37:41 PM
The MM marking is somewhat irrelevant to the tempo marking. The tempo marking is supposed to reflect the overall speed; IE something could be designated "largo" but be quarter = 92, the whole thing written in whole notes.
The piece, while being at quarter note = 144, is still not being taken at an actual vivace speed- vivace translates as "lively", which the piece really is not. It's much more akin to a walking pace; try walking to it. It's not hard.
Title: Re: [MUL] Tetris - "C Theme" (Replacement) by yentltijssens
Post by: PetrifiedLasagna on April 17, 2016, 08:41:48 PM
Oh okay, I understand now. Me and my literal mindedness  :P
Title: Re: [MUL] Tetris - "C Theme" (Replacement) by yentltijssens
Post by: yentltijssens on April 18, 2016, 01:34:45 AM
I reuploaded the .pdf and the .mus. I think it's good enough now to upload on the official site. Thank you PetrifiedLasagna for the help with the formatting and converting.
Title: Re: [MUL] Tetris - "C Theme" (Replacement) by yentltijssens
Post by: mikey on April 18, 2016, 03:53:46 AM
Protip: good enough isn't good enough.  If a sheet is good enough, that means it can still be improved.  A sheet isn't done until you look at it and instead of saying good enough, you say "this sheet is impeccable".  I still haven't learned this myself.
Title: Re: [MUL] Tetris - "C Theme" (Replacement) by Yentl Tijssens
Post by: yentltijssens on April 18, 2016, 08:54:38 AM
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on April 18, 2016, 03:53:46 AMProtip: good enough isn't good enough.  If a sheet is good enough, that means it can still be improved.  A sheet isn't done until you look at it and instead of saying good enough, you say "this sheet is impeccable".  I still haven't learned this myself.

I get what you mean. Thank you for the tip! Right now I know nothing that I can improve to the score right now. If there is anything not good yet, you can always tell me.
Title: Re: [MUL] Tetris - "C Theme" (Replacement) by Yentl Tijssens
Post by: Olimar12345 on April 18, 2016, 09:48:55 AM
Good work so far. Here are the issues that remain to be fixed:

Formatting errors:

-The arranger, page number, and 2nd page title aren't quite aligned.
-The copyright info and site URL should not be italicized.
-Copyright year should be 1984
-Move the information about the game arranger to the bold, non-italicized text. The italic, non-bold is for you.

Musical errors:
-The repeat sign at the top is unnecessary
-Make the G# in the LH into an A in these measures: 2, 4, 10, 12 (wrong notes)
-the first four eighth notes in the LH in measure 21 should be A C# A F#

Here are the corrected files. If you want to just swap them out with the ones in the OP, I'll go ahead and accept the arrangement for you.

[MUS] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59554832/nsm/NSM%20subs/Tetris%20-%20C%20Theme12345.mus) [Midi] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59554832/nsm/NSM%20subs/Tetris%20-%20C%20Theme12345.mid) [PDF] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59554832/nsm/NSM%20subs/Tetris%20-%20C%20Theme12345.pdf)

Misc. things I did:
-I made the tempo text match fonts with the rest of the sheet.
-I added a courtesy natural to the B in the LH.
-I replaced the half rest with two quarter rests to keep it consistent with the rest of the arrangements.
-I reduced the initial dynamic from fortissimo to forte, since it doesn't sound that drastically huge in the original.
Title: Re: [MUL] Tetris - "C Theme" (Replacement) by Yentl Tijssens
Post by: Tobbeh99 on April 18, 2016, 09:55:59 AM
Here's some more feedback:

Formatting:
-The text "Arranged by gameboy..." should be bold like the composer text, I believe. Not 100% sure on this.
-The copyright/URL should be in "plain" style NOT italic.
-Maybe the title should be "Type C". That's the titles they used in smash and in some other youtube videos. I know that you probably followed the other sheets on site. But this is up for discussion.

Music:
-I really can't get why you put a ff (fortissimo) as the dynamic marking? Don't you think it's too loud? I'd suggest mf as a dynamic.
- Some articulations could improve the arrangement. I'm thinking about putting staccato markings on the quarter notes in the LH.

Some wrong notes I found when listening to it closer:
M.2: LH G# should be an A
M.4: LH G# should be A
M.10 & 12: the same as M.2 & 4
M.21: the first 4 notes should be A-C#-A-F#


..Olimar posted just before me lol.
Title: Re: [MUL] Tetris - "C Theme" (Replacement) by Yentl Tijssens
Post by: yentltijssens on April 18, 2016, 09:57:47 AM
Quote from: Tobbeh99 on April 18, 2016, 09:55:59 AMHere's some more feedback:

Formatting:
-The text "Arranged by gameboy..." should be bold like the composer text, I believe. Not 100% sure on this.
-The copyright/URL should be in "plain" style NOT italic.
-Maybe the title should be "Type C". That's the titles they used in smash and in some other youtube videos. I know that you probably followed the other sheets on site. But this is up for discussion.

Music:
-I really can't get why you put a ff (fortissimo) as the dynamic marking? Don't you think it's too loud? I'd suggest mf as a dynamic.
- Some articulations could improve the arrangement. I'm thinking about putting staccato markings on the quarter notes in the LH.

Some wrong notes I found when listening to it closer:
M.2: LH G# should be an A
M.4: LH G# should be A
M.10 & 12: the same as M.2 & 4
M.21: the first 4 notes should be A-C#-A-F#

..Olimar posted just before me lol.

Thank you very much for the improvements! I replaced the files with yours.
Title: Re: [MUL] Tetris - "C Theme" (Replacement) by Yentl Tijssens
Post by: Tobbeh99 on April 18, 2016, 09:59:13 AM
Olimar are you sure about the copyright? Tetris wiki and Wikipedia says 1989.
Title: Re: [MUL] Tetris - "C Theme" (Replacement) by Yentl Tijssens
Post by: mikey on April 18, 2016, 10:05:14 AM
Based off of the graphics 84 sounds right
Title: Re: [MUL] Tetris - "C Theme" (Replacement) by Yentl Tijssens
Post by: Olimar12345 on April 18, 2016, 10:36:52 AM
Quote from: Tobbeh99 on April 18, 2016, 09:59:13 AMOlimar are you sure about the copyright? Tetris wiki and Wikipedia says 1989.
1989 is correct, my bad.
Quote from: Tobbeh99 on April 18, 2016, 09:55:59 AM-Maybe the title should be "Type C". That's the titles they used in smash and in some other youtube videos. I know that you probably followed the other sheets on site. But this is up for discussion.
A Theme, B Theme etc. make more sense from the game's standpoint, and since there is no official OST it can't really be said for sure. "Type A" seen in smash could just be a name they gave it, and YT holds no merit as a source.
Quote from: Tobbeh99 on April 18, 2016, 09:55:59 AM- Some articulations could improve the arrangement. I'm thinking about putting staccato markings on the quarter notes in the LH.
Bach didn't use articulations, so I disagree.

Also, I just realized the printed tempo is a bit under. q = 150 is more like it.

Here are the updated files, sorry again:
[MUS] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59554832/nsm/NSM%20subs/Tetris%20-%20C%20Theme12345.mus) [Midi] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59554832/nsm/NSM%20subs/Tetris%20-%20C%20Theme12345.mid) [PDF] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59554832/nsm/NSM%20subs/Tetris%20-%20C%20Theme12345.pdf)
Title: Re: [MUL] Tetris - "C Theme" (Replacement) by Yentl Tijssens
Post by: yentltijssens on April 18, 2016, 10:43:11 AM
No problem. I replaced the old ones!
Title: Re: [MUL] Tetris - "C Theme" (Replacement) by Yentl Tijssens
Post by: Bloop on April 18, 2016, 10:46:07 AM
Quote from: Olimar12345 on April 18, 2016, 10:36:52 AMBach didn't use articulations, so I disagree.
he loves using those fucking mordents though
mordents are what's wrong with this country
Title: Re: [MUL] Tetris - "C Theme" (Replacement) by Yentl Tijssens
Post by: Olimar12345 on April 18, 2016, 10:47:02 AM
Yeah he does! (too bad that isn't an articulation! xD )

Alright, I think we're good here.
Title: Re: [MUL] Tetris - "C Theme" (Replacement) by Yentl Tijssens
Post by: Zeta on April 18, 2016, 10:47:46 AM
This submission has been accepted by Olimar12345 (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?action=profile;u=83).

~Zeta, your friendly NSM-Bot