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Title: [GCN] Mario Kart: Double Dash!! - "Course Fanfare (Grand Prix)" by Jegilmer
Post by: Zeta on June 15, 2016, 12:22:53 PM
Submission Information:

Series: Super Mario
Game: Mario Kart: Double Dash!!
Console: Nintendo GameCube
Title: Course Fanfare (Grand Prix)
Instrumentation Solo Piano
Arranger: Jegilmer (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3732)

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Title: Re: [GCN] Mario Kart: Double Dash!! - "Course Fanfare (Grand Prix)" by Jegilmer
Post by: jegilmer on June 15, 2016, 12:24:26 PM
I don't have a full version of Finale, so sorry about the crappy formatting.

Title: Re: [GCN] Mario Kart: Double Dash!! - "Course Fanfare (Grand Prix)" by Jegilmer
Post by: WaluigiTime64 on June 15, 2016, 12:30:29 PM
http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=481.msg6779#msg6779

The Formatting Guidelines thread has a link to the NSM Template File, which is what most Finale NotePad users use to format their arrangements. You can simply copy-paste the notes in.

EDIT: Oh, right, this song's in 2/4 time, so go here (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=7600.0) for templates of different time signatures.
Title: Re: [GCN] Mario Kart: Double Dash!! - "Course Fanfare (Grand Prix)" by Jegilmer
Post by: Sebastian on June 15, 2016, 02:24:17 PM
Hey!
As always, here is the formatting fix for you.
[ZIP with all 4 files] (https://www.dropbox.com/s/sfhzkc3f60ketsu/MKDD%20-%20Fanfare.zip?dl=1)

Some other things I fixed:
- Fixed the formatting, of course.
- I fixed up some wrong notes (the harmony section in the second layer).
- Changed it to 6/8.
- Deleted a measure and added a fermata to save some space.
- Added some dynamics.

Hope this looks good to you!

Title: Re: [GCN] Mario Kart: Double Dash!! - "Course Fanfare (Grand Prix)" by Jegilmer
Post by: jegilmer on June 16, 2016, 02:13:29 PM
Looks and sounds great! Thanks for the help guys! I updated the links.
Title: Re: [GCN] Mario Kart: Double Dash!! - "Course Fanfare (Grand Prix)" by Jegilmer
Post by: Maelstrom on June 19, 2016, 01:55:24 PM
A few changes I made. Feel free to dispute these if you don't agree with them.
-The synth is not present in the first measure, so I took out the chord, which allowed me to fit in the octave harmony for the horn.
-I adjusted the chord at the end in the RH a little to better represent the song.
Pretty sure that's it. Should be good to go after this.

Files (Please put the .musx in this time)
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8if249jup3tbkhk/AACfFX8ZnztjA9xidPe1AGnva?dl=0
Title: Re: [GCN] Mario Kart: Double Dash!! - "Course Fanfare (Grand Prix)" by Jegilmer
Post by: Sebastian on June 19, 2016, 02:08:12 PM
Quote from: Maelstrom on June 19, 2016, 01:55:24 PM-The synth is not present in the first measure, so I took out the chord, which allowed me to fit in the octave harmony for the horn.
For consistency, you should do all of them as octaves or none of them. Also, the chord I had in was in there, just not the same instrument as the other three and an octave lower.

Quote from: Maelstrom on June 19, 2016, 01:55:24 PM-I adjusted the chord at the end in the RH a little to better represent the song.
Pretty sure that's it. Should be good to go after this.
I don't hear that G that you added in and I also hear an A, D, Bb which are not included in the sheet.


Also, did you accidentally take out the 8vb?
Title: Re: [GCN] Mario Kart: Double Dash!! - "Course Fanfare (Grand Prix)" by Jegilmer
Post by: Maelstrom on June 19, 2016, 02:40:46 PM
There is and was no 8vb in Jeg's .mus or your .musx

That chord is not there, and neither is the alternate chord you suggested. I just double checked, and analyzed the waveforms just to be sure.
Title: Re: [GCN] Mario Kart: Double Dash!! - "Course Fanfare (Grand Prix)" by Jegilmer
Post by: Sebastian on June 19, 2016, 02:44:06 PM
How are you analyzing the waveform? I'm 100% I hear those notes.
Title: Re: [GCN] Mario Kart: Double Dash!! - "Course Fanfare (Grand Prix)" by Jegilmer
Post by: Maelstrom on June 19, 2016, 03:01:25 PM
Quote from: Sebastian on June 19, 2016, 02:44:06 PMHow are you analyzing the waveform? I'm 100% I hear those notes.
Double checked and I may have been wrong
There is no chord.
The 1st layer (horns) of the RH goes into octaves for the first two measures, but goes into a 5th in the 3rd one.
The final chord is a D, C, and F.
There is definitely not a Bb in that.
Title: Re: [GCN] Mario Kart: Double Dash!! - "Course Fanfare (Grand Prix)" by Jegilmer
Post by: Bespinben on June 19, 2016, 07:50:13 PM
Pitch-perfect edition, and the flaws of being pitch-perfect:

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35209091/coursefanfare.PNG)

1.) Including the horn octave doubling incurs the notational problem of lack of voice conservation, as well as conflicting with the 3-voice synth layer. It's also doesn't contribute to the sound texture much at all, pianistically speaking.

2.) Again voice conservation. The synth layer is ALWAYS 3-voices.  It can't just be 2 in m. 2-3 and then 3 all the sudden in m. 4, and it can't just all the sudden appear in m. 2 without a dotted half rest in m. 1. Ah, but then you have overlap between the synth and melody in m. 2-3! Oh the pain of pitch-perfect transcription...

3.) Where's the ottava? This should've been the FIRST thing that should've been noticed. Unless, of course, it was a pianistically driven decision to omit it based on closely vs openly spaced harmony, but... then that's not pitch-perfect, is it?

4.) It's an Ebmaj13(#11) with the 3rd and 5th omitted. Or more concisely abbreviated, Dm7/Eb. There's no G (3rd) or Bb (5th) whatsoever here, unless, of course, we choose to put it there.
Title: Re: [GCN] Mario Kart: Double Dash!! - "Course Fanfare (Grand Prix)" by Jegilmer
Post by: Bespinben on June 22, 2016, 12:48:16 PM
The ball is in your court Seb ;) Serve strong!
Title: Re: [GCN] Mario Kart: Double Dash!! - "Course Fanfare (Grand Prix)" by Jegilmer
Post by: Sebastian on June 22, 2016, 01:03:20 PM
Quote from: Bespinben on June 22, 2016, 12:48:16 PMThe ball is in your court Seb ;) Serve strong!
Spoiler
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fl0pJnTr.gif&hash=c88037aa07505c9ea277dee97b70ec340554acba)
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Quote from: Bespinben on June 19, 2016, 07:50:13 PM1.) Including the horn octave doubling incurs the notational problem of lack of voice conservation, as well as conflicting with the 3-voice synth layer. It's also doesn't contribute to the sound texture much at all, pianistically speaking.
Agreed. I say take the horn octave doubling out.

Quote from: Bespinben on June 19, 2016, 07:50:13 PM2.) Again voice conservation. The synth layer is ALWAYS 3-voices.  It can't just be 2 in m. 2-3 and then 3 all the sudden in m. 4, and it can't just all the sudden appear in m. 2 without a dotted half rest in m. 1. Ah, but then you have overlap between the synth and melody in m. 2-3! Oh the pain of pitch-perfect transcription...
I hate to beat a dead horse, but I am positive I hear that voice in M. 1 (not the same instrument though). It is some sort of electric guitar in M. 1 and a synth in the other measures. If you guys insist that it's not there, I say we still add it for consistency's sake.....in a triad chord of course ;)

Quote from: Bespinben on June 19, 2016, 07:50:13 PM3.) Where's the ottava? This should've been the FIRST thing that should've been noticed. Unless, of course, it was a pianistically driven decision to omit it based on closely vs openly spaced harmony, but... then that's not pitch-perfect, is it?
I originally added it in, but I think I removed it at the last second for that very reason. I say we add it back.

Quote from: Bespinben on June 19, 2016, 07:50:13 PM4.) It's an Ebmaj13(#11) with the 3rd and 5th omitted. Or more concisely abbreviated, Dm7/Eb. There's no G (3rd) or Bb (5th) whatsoever here, unless, of course, we choose to put it there.
Ok.
Title: Re: [GCN] Mario Kart: Double Dash!! - "Course Fanfare (Grand Prix)" by Jegilmer
Post by: Bespinben on June 22, 2016, 01:21:34 PM
"Evrybawdy but me is cheaaating waaaah!"

Most of what I wrote above was satirical. It's good to consider those "rules" as you arrange, but don't let them dictate everything. Ya don't have to have a 3-note synth layer the whole time if you don't want to.

I'm equally adamant that there are no extra voices in m.1, but, if you want to write something in, more power to you. It makes for a more balanced, fluid piano accompaniment texture in the end, even if a product of quote-"creativity".
Title: Re: [GCN] Mario Kart: Double Dash!! - "Course Fanfare (Grand Prix)" by Jegilmer
Post by: Dudeman on June 22, 2016, 01:25:40 PM
Quote from: Bespinben on June 22, 2016, 01:21:34 PMIt makes for a more balanced, fluid piano accompaniment texture in the end, even if a product of quote-"creativity".
Sacré bleu! Foul heretic! How dare you go so far as to use such vulgar language as "creativity" on this collection of painstakingly-copy-pasta'd piano transcriptions posing as "arrangements"! I should have your head for this!
Title: Re: [GCN] Mario Kart: Double Dash!! - "Course Fanfare (Grand Prix)" by Jegilmer
Post by: Latios212 on June 24, 2016, 08:50:37 PM
Quote from: Bespinben on June 19, 2016, 07:50:13 PM<things>
Quote from: Sebastian on June 22, 2016, 01:03:20 PMOk.

Updated files please?
Title: Re: [GCN] Mario Kart: Double Dash!! - "Course Fanfare (Grand Prix)" by Jegilmer
Post by: Sebastian on June 25, 2016, 08:23:20 AM
Done.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/u91yv5l1mnjwuh2/AAB_BYH7ZJMikxm90HAxpDVqa?dl=1
Title: Re: [GCN] Mario Kart: Double Dash!! - "Course Fanfare (Grand Prix)" by Jegilmer
Post by: Latios212 on June 25, 2016, 10:20:44 AM
Yay
Title: Re: [GCN] Mario Kart: Double Dash!! - "Course Fanfare (Grand Prix)" by Jegilmer
Post by: Zeta on June 25, 2016, 10:21:02 AM
This submission has been accepted by Latios212 (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?action=profile;u=4344).

~Zeta, your friendly NSM-Bot