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Title: [GBA] Hamtaro: Ham-Ham Heartbreak - "Hot Spring" by Altissimo
Post by: Zeta on August 20, 2016, 04:40:23 PM
Submission Information:

Series: Other
Game: Hamtaro: Ham-Ham Heartbreak
Console: Game Boy Advance
Title: Hot Spring
Instrumentation Solo Piano
Arranger: Altissimo (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3843)

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Title: Re: [GBA] Hamtaro: Ham-Ham Heartbreak - "Hot Spring" by Altissimo
Post by: Altissimo on August 20, 2016, 04:40:38 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoMVQ6Ql4RM
Title: Re: [GBA] Hamtaro: Ham-Ham Heartbreak - "Hot Spring" by Altissimo
Post by: Tobbeh99 on August 21, 2016, 04:05:07 AM
Nice arrangement!

M.16 RH: You could have glissando or some grace notes to imitate the slide.
Title: Re: [GBA] Hamtaro: Ham-Ham Heartbreak - "Hot Spring" by Altissimo
Post by: Altissimo on August 21, 2016, 06:22:11 AM
Good idea. I decided to use grace notes rather than a gliss because I felt it would be easier. Updated.
Title: Re: [GBA] Hamtaro: Ham-Ham Heartbreak - "Hot Spring" by Altissimo
Post by: Altissimo on August 28, 2016, 02:58:51 PM
Bump
Title: Re: [GBA] Hamtaro: Ham-Ham Heartbreak - "Hot Spring" by Altissimo
Post by: Altissimo on September 07, 2016, 06:42:01 AM
bump
Title: Re: [GBA] Hamtaro: Ham-Ham Heartbreak - "Hot Spring" by Altissimo
Post by: JDMEK5 on September 07, 2016, 06:42:18 AM
Cool sheet! Pitch accuracies aside, let's dive in:

-Small thing, but I would move the tempo marking a little higher and a little more to the left. More above the time signature. Eh.
-I'm seeing clashing accidentals. Measure 2 we have overlapping staccatos, and on a similar note, in many cases your staves are so close together that the staccatos are a little too close to each other for my liking.
-RH, Measure 2: I would flip the stem for the first note since there's no second layer by that point as far as the phrase is concerned.
-Some accidentals should be on the other side of the noteheads from where they currently are. Clearest example is the RH of the last measure, where you have that lonely staccato on top of that one note where all the others are underneath. Measure 8 RH is another place I would be tempted to put the accidentals underneath the noteheads just cuz that's where the slurs could very well go. Though when I think about it most critically, either way is technically correct. (Either being either the way I said, or the way you currently have it)

So yeah, space it out between hands for lines 1-3, and between lines 2 and 3. Let's start with that.

EDIT: You bumped literally as I was typing this all out rofl
Title: Re: [GBA] Hamtaro: Ham-Ham Heartbreak - "Hot Spring" by Altissimo
Post by: Altissimo on September 07, 2016, 07:08:28 AM
lmao what are the odds

anyway i think you mean "articulations" not "accidentals" but i got what you meant, updated
Title: Re: [GBA] Hamtaro: Ham-Ham Heartbreak - "Hot Spring" by Altissimo
Post by: JDMEK5 on September 07, 2016, 07:33:33 AM
Quote from: Altissimo on September 07, 2016, 07:08:28 AManyway i think you mean "articulations" not "accidentals" but i got what you meant, updated
^Aye, that lol
Title: Re: [GBA] Hamtaro: Ham-Ham Heartbreak - "Hot Spring" by Altissimo
Post by: Altissimo on September 17, 2016, 02:46:42 PM
bump
Title: Re: [GBA] Hamtaro: Ham-Ham Heartbreak - "Hot Spring" by Altissimo
Post by: JDMEK5 on September 18, 2016, 06:51:54 PM
Measure 1, beat 4, RH: Consider adding grace notes or a glissando to emulate the original.
Measures 3 and 7, beat 1, RH: Stems flipped the wrong way
Measures 2 and 8, Beats 1.5 and 1 respectively, RH: Missing eighth rests.
Measure 24, beat 2, RH: Stem flipped again.
Title: Re: [GBA] Hamtaro: Ham-Ham Heartbreak - "Hot Spring" by Altissimo
Post by: Altissimo on September 18, 2016, 07:18:38 PM
should be fixed

glissandos get proper playback by using a method olimar suggested to me, using tied notes
Title: Re: [GBA] Hamtaro: Ham-Ham Heartbreak - "Hot Spring" by Altissimo
Post by: Altissimo on September 28, 2016, 04:38:52 PM
bump
Title: Re: [GBA] Hamtaro: Ham-Ham Heartbreak - "Hot Spring" by Altissimo
Post by: JDMEK5 on October 06, 2016, 06:09:25 AM
Last things:

Measure 6-7, RH: I'm not hearing the tie across the barline. I'm hearing rearticulation.
Measure 16, RH: Here we have another slide. Again, while you don't have to implement it, I'd suggest a gliss.
Measures 11 & 19, RH: Might I suggest courtesy accidentals for the Bbs on beat 1?
Measure 24, RH: I'm not sure why but I feel like these Bbs should be an octave lower. Perhaps just fits the context of the arrangement better, despite the original having it an octave higher. I think this is a timbre thing.
Measure 3, RH, Beat 3: I feel like I'm hearing a C with this F but if someone else could verify, that would be cool.
Measure 4, RH, Second Layer: Something seems off with these notes but I'm not able to put my finger on it. Again, I request another opinion on this one. The top note doesn't change though. Only the harmony.
Whole intro bit: Regarding specifically measures 2-3 and 6-7, here's more or less what I'm hearing for the second layer in those spots:
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1147.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fo555%2FJDMEK5%2FCapture_7.png&hash=6cef2f005c8b4f3379e144eedbc47a539e324304)

If another updater could take a look at this as well that would be fab. Rn I gtg so I'm going to have to leave it there for now unfortunately but I'll follow up soon.
Title: Re: [GBA] Hamtaro: Ham-Ham Heartbreak - "Hot Spring" by Altissimo
Post by: Olimar12345 on October 06, 2016, 07:11:18 PM
Good things said, JD. I just want to say that I agree with most points you made and would like to add the following:

-The Bb's written in 24 are the correct sounding pitch, but I think they sound weird because the contour of the line is disrupted; the preceding section is sounding higher than the Bb's, so it goes down to them rather than up to them in the original. I think personally it could be either one in this arrangement though; it's not too big of a deal.

-The C you recommended in measure 3 I would suggest to be a Bb.

-Your ear was leading you in the correct direction for measure 4! The G natural to Ab movement is correct, but I would erase the F to G and substitute them with a Bb above the G to Ab (on both notes). This is how the original sounds.


Title: Re: [GBA] Hamtaro: Ham-Ham Heartbreak - "Hot Spring" by Altissimo
Post by: Altissimo on October 06, 2016, 07:48:43 PM
I think i fixed everything. updated
Title: Re: [GBA] Hamtaro: Ham-Ham Heartbreak - "Hot Spring" by Altissimo
Post by: Latios212 on October 08, 2016, 07:38:39 PM
Almost there - just some visual things:
- Bottom tie from m. 2-3: for consistency, flip to match 4-5 and 6-7?
- Staccatos out of place in 8
- Consider combining layers in 6 like in 2
- What's the quarter rest doing there in m. 4?
- Flip beat 1 LH in 3 and 7
- Incorrect rhythm grouping in last measure LH
- Is beat 1 RH in measure 9 rearticulated? Not really hearing it but if that was intentional that's cool.

Additional recommendations:
- I'd recommend a tenuto in beat 1 on measure 11 (and 19 and 21) to indicate that the beat 1 note should be sustained.
- Maybe tinker with measure distribution a bit since the last two measures are unusually wide. Could shift one measure from the previous system down, or whatever else.
Title: Re: [GBA] Hamtaro: Ham-Ham Heartbreak - "Hot Spring" by Altissimo
Post by: Altissimo on October 08, 2016, 11:18:42 PM
Quote from: Latios212 on October 08, 2016, 07:38:39 PMAlmost there - just some visual things:
- Bottom tie from m. 2-3: for consistency, flip to match 4-5 and 6-7?
- Staccatos out of place in 8

fixed

Quote- Consider combining layers in 6 like in 2

in order to do that, because of the gliss, i also had to change measure 6 so that layer 1 was on the bottom and layer 2 was on the top. it's either that or leave it as is because the gliss doesn't go between layers so pick ur poison

Quote- What's the quarter rest doing there in m. 4?

it wouldn't go the fuck away no matter what i tried that's what

Quote- Flip beat 1 LH in 3 and 7
- Incorrect rhythm grouping in last measure LH
- Is beat 1 RH in measure 9 rearticulated? Not really hearing it but if that was intentional that's cool.

sure fixed

Quote- I'd recommend a tenuto in beat 1 on measure 11 (and 19 and 21) to indicate that the beat 1 note should be sustained.

mkay

Quote- Maybe tinker with measure distribution a bit since the last two measures are unusually wide. Could shift one measure from the previous system down, or whatever else.

k done

updated
Title: Re: [GBA] Hamtaro: Ham-Ham Heartbreak - "Hot Spring" by Altissimo
Post by: Olimar12345 on October 09, 2016, 07:56:17 AM
Just pooping in to say...

Quote from: Altissimo on October 08, 2016, 11:18:42 PMThe gliss doesn't go between layers so pick ur poison

I'm fairly certain you can have smart shapes go between layers. Try it.
Title: Re: [GBA] Hamtaro: Ham-Ham Heartbreak - "Hot Spring" by Altissimo
Post by: Altissimo on October 09, 2016, 08:15:07 AM
>pooping in

anyway i did try it last night. it didn't work.
worked this morning fsr idk

updated
Title: Re: [GBA] Hamtaro: Ham-Ham Heartbreak - "Hot Spring" by Altissimo
Post by: Maelstrom on October 09, 2016, 02:29:51 PM
It's good. I just added a staccato to the LH in m22, and made it a 8th note.
Accepted.
Title: Re: [GBA] Hamtaro: Ham-Ham Heartbreak - "Hot Spring" by Altissimo
Post by: Zeta on October 09, 2016, 02:30:26 PM
This submission has been accepted by Maelstrom (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?action=profile;u=4119).

~Zeta, your friendly NSM-Bot