Now, I may love Kirby remixes, but people need to stop with the Gourmet Race remixes. Seriously, its reputation is being ruined and almost no one new to the series has heard anything besides the Smash Bros. 64 version.
Stop calling it, "Kirby's Dream Land Theme Song", that's not even close to being accurate.
Also, this theme has become a victim of internet memes.
As good as many of them are, undertale remixes are becoming old and starting to annoy me.
Remixes that are content without really adding an original spin on the song, or any new content.
Quote from: Maelstrom on November 22, 2016, 06:32:08 PMRemixes that are content without really adding an original spin on the song, or any new content.
What I mean is remixes that take great songs and ruin them, like the Wily Wars version of Mega Man's boss theme.
But the ones I referred to actually drive me insane. Why remix something if you're not going to add anything original?
Quote from: Maelstrom on November 22, 2016, 06:46:17 PMBut the ones I referred to actually drive me insane. Why remix something if you're not going to add anything original?
Hmm... good point. One remix I really like is this: (1:24)
Nearly half of it is new and original, yet so fitting.
When you have a remix, you gotta change something, and those changes will always be scrutinized. "Ruining" is completely subjective.
That being said, I really hate remixes that transpose the music to a different key from the original.
Quote from: InsigTurtle on November 22, 2016, 08:36:23 PMWhen you have a remix, you gotta change something, and those changes will always be scrutinized. "Ruining" is completely subjective.
That being said, I really hate remixes that transpose the music to a different key from the original.
Ooh, yes. Mega Man: Powered Up...
I don't listen to fan content very often, and what I hear ranges from really good, to kinda lame.
Quote from: LeviR.star on November 22, 2016, 06:40:38 PMThe Wily Wars version of Mega Man's boss theme.
Wait, you mean Mega Man 1's boss theme? That was kinda bad in its own right though.
Quote from: LeviR.star on November 22, 2016, 08:39:32 PMOoh, yes. Mega Man: Powered Up...
Curse the remix of Bomb Man's theme.
I'm going to just go ahead and state the obvious:
"midi remixes" are just ew
Quote from: InsigTurtle on November 22, 2016, 08:36:23 PMWhen you have a remix, you gotta change something, and those changes will always be scrutinized. "Ruining" is completely subjective.
That being said, I really hate remixes that transpose the music to a different key from the original.
I second this--it's transparently obvious when someone has taken the original sound file, changed its key, and re-published it. The instrumentation, timbre, and possibly tempo not changing give it away.
Sadly, this seems to be the bread and butter of "Nightcore" versions of songs. Those are everywhere on YouTube. I've gotta be careful out there.
Technically more a cover than a remix, but this song just doesn't make any sense. Why did Dragonforce chose
This Song to cover!? Out of all the songs... ...always confused and annoyed me.
Quote from: Maelstrom on November 22, 2016, 06:46:17 PMBut the ones I referred to actually drive me insane. Why remix something if you're not going to add anything original?
I do it because the original songs are in GBA/DS or some other old-school sound quality, so it's neat to hear what something would sound like if higher quality samples were available to make the songs.
Anyways, nightcore/dubstep and similar kinds of remixes are cancer.
Quote from: Echo on November 23, 2016, 03:41:51 PMAnyways, nightcore/dubstep and similar kinds of remixes are cancer.
I'm not an expert, but does
this count? I
hate this remix.
Quote from: Echo on November 23, 2016, 03:41:51 PMAnyways, nightcore/dubstep and similar kinds of remixes are cancer.
I mean, not ALL dubstep remixes are cancer if you do them right and are actually decently skilled at dubstep (most people who make dubstep remixes don't even know what dubstep is, and they end up making crappy 2012 style drops that are mixed horribly).
These ones I bet you would appreciate:
Star Wolf (Star Fox 64) remix by DS (me)
Song of Storms (LoZ OoT) remix by Will & Tim
Undertale (Undertale) remix by Chime
Luigi's Mansion remix by Pegboard Nerds
Quote from: DS on November 23, 2016, 07:07:11 PMLuigi's Mansion remix by Pegboard Nerds
Hey, that one's really good!
Quote from: LeviR.star on November 23, 2016, 06:13:38 PM[SSBB Gourmet Race Remix]
Ew gross get it away from here.
Also every song in DuckTales: Remastered is beautiful. In my opinion they're some of the best examples of remixes ever.
Quote from: LeviR.star on November 23, 2016, 06:13:38 PMI'm not an expert, but does this count? I hate this remix.
I personally like that one. I think it's a cool metal remix. What I don't like when it comes to Brawl and Kirby is the 02 remix. It's just.. too different from the original. But I do understand the remixers intent - Brawl is a fighting game and he wanted to have the song in the game but tougher so it would fit the game.
Quote from: Tobbeh99 on November 24, 2016, 01:38:07 AMI personally like that one. I think it's a cool metal remix. What I don't like when it comes to Brawl and Kirby is the 02 remix. It's just.. too different from the original. But I do understand the remixers intent - Brawl is a fighting game and he wanted to have the song in the game but tougher so it would fit the game.
My personal theory with SSBB and Kirby is that SSBB contained advance previews (in spirit) of Kirby Super Star Ultra. SSBB King Dedede has a mechanized hammer, and so does KSSU's Masked Dedede. SSBB contains a heavy metal remix of Gourmet Race, while KSSU introduced the first (and so far probably only) heavy metal boss theme in the Kirby series. Especially since SSBB and HAL Laboratory share developers, and KSSU was released only months after SSBB, I don't believe the sneak peeks are coincidence.
On a more appropriate note, it saddens me whenever I hear an "instrumental" version of a song but I can still hear some (significantly) quieter lyrics. Removing vocals without removing middle harmonics is surprisingly hard, but I find songs with lyrics hard to listen to, and the karaoke people can't use those versions.
Quote from: Dekkadeci on November 24, 2016, 04:31:31 AMMy personal theory with SSBB and Kirby is that SSBB contained advance previews (in spirit) of Kirby Super Star Ultra. SSBB King Dedede has a mechanized hammer, and so does KSSU's Masked Dedede. SSBB contains a heavy metal remix of Gourmet Race, while KSSU introduced the first (and so far probably only) heavy metal boss theme in the Kirby series. Especially since SSBB and HAL Laboratory share developers, and KSSU was released only months after SSBB, I don't believe the sneak peeks are coincidence.
Intressting theory, haven't played KSSU so can't really tell :/
Quote from: Dekkadeci on November 24, 2016, 04:31:31 AMOn a more appropriate note, it saddens me whenever I hear an "instrumental" version of a song but I can still hear some (significantly) quieter lyrics. Removing vocals without removing middle harmonics is surprisingly hard, but I find songs with lyrics hard to listen to, and the karaoke people can't use those versions.
I can agree with you. But sometimes it works, SSB4 "Bayonetta - Mysterious Destiny" is a great example where I think it works.
I hate all dubstep remixes
Whoever did this did a shitty job.
Quote from: shadowkirby on November 25, 2016, 02:04:28 AMWhoever did this did a shitty job.
Ahh, yes, the infamous "8-Bit" remixes... these make me sick
it's funny because I made it AND it has GRAND DAD
Quote from: shadowkirby on November 25, 2016, 02:20:25 PMit's funny because I made it AND it has GRAND DAD
Oh, shoot! Sorry, shadow. Didn't notice that.
Quote from: LeviR.star on November 25, 2016, 07:28:39 AMAhh, yes, the infamous "8-Bit" remixes... these make me sick
Best part about that one is that it doesn't even follow chiptune limitations. I'm hearing 4 pulse channels at once.
No, I think it's a shitty remix. You're good yo.
It somewhat bothers me when you can clearly tell that a person just doesn't understand what makes a particular song "work," and tries to make it sound all "cool 'n' all"... I'm sure you know what I mean.
Quote from: WaluigiTime64 on November 25, 2016, 03:41:46 PMBest part about that one is that it doesn't even follow chiptune limitations. I'm hearing 4 pulse channels at once.
Shoot, I forgot Famicom chiptune limitations. Do none of them have 4 pulse channels?
(FYI, regular Famicom 8-bit music has only 3 music channels, a noise channel, and DPCM, but the popularly-used-by-remixers Konami VRC6 chip adds 3 more music channels. IMO, I believe the Shovel Knight OST legitimized Konami VRC6 as 8-bit music (yes, the OST uses that chip).)
Quote from: Dekkadeci on November 26, 2016, 05:03:16 AM(FYI, regular Famicom 8-bit music has only 3 music channels, a noise channel, and DPCM, but the popularly-used-by-remixers Konami VRC6 chip adds 3 more music channels. IMO, I believe the Shovel Knight OST legitimized Konami VRC6 as 8-bit music (yes, the OST uses that chip).)
Oh, I've never heard about this chip before. That explains quite a bit, although the idea of chiptune "remixes" still bothers me. Chiptune "versions" or "arrangements" are fine, but remixes are where it starts to go eh.
Oh yeah, VRC6 remixes are hella good. Specifically for you, Waluigi, here (https://rushjet1.bandcamp.com/music)'s a link to the bandcamp of a guy who does total soundtrack remixes of the classic Mega Man games with the VRC6 chip. They're awesome.
Quote from: Dudeman on November 26, 2016, 10:47:21 AMSpecifically for you, Waluigi, here (https://rushjet1.bandcamp.com/music)'s a link to the bandcamp of a guy who does total soundtrack remixes of the classic Mega Man games with the VRC6 chip. They're awesome.
Man, I haven't heard a good chiptune song in ages. I needed this.
Double post, because I completely forgot about this:
I guess I have heard the chip being used before.
Quote from: WaluigiTime64 on November 26, 2016, 06:11:38 PMDouble post, because I completely forgot about this:
I guess I have heard the chip being used before.
My gosh, that bootleg game 7 Grand Dad and Vinesauce ruined that game's reputation.
Even official remixes can be really bad:
Quote from: Maelstrom on November 26, 2016, 08:25:16 PMEven official remixes can be really bad:
ew stop get it away from me
Yikes! I thought Smash Bros. was supposed to have GOOD remixes!
Quote from: E. Gadd Industries on November 28, 2016, 04:17:22 AMYikes! I thought Smash Bros. was supposed to have GOOD remixes!
Like
this, perhaps?
Quote from: Maelstrom on November 26, 2016, 08:25:16 PMEven official remixes can be really bad:
Wait, that was remixed by
Yoko Shimomura? How could she digress to something like that XD
Money.
Quote from: E. Gadd Industries on November 28, 2016, 04:17:22 AMYikes! I thought Smash Bros. was supposed to have GOOD remixes!
No no, I think you meant to say they have good *remakes
Oh yeah, that's right...
Although, I can't help but think SSB had at least ONE good remix...