Due to NSM's list-organizing tendencies, this topic is where you can rank whatever you want. Whenever you want. Go wild.
Shameless ripoff of LLF's Ultimate Ranking Topic (https://last-life.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3782).
stupid threads
1. this
2. topic kicking
3. everything else
best threads
1. this
2. topic kicking
3. everything else
Worst opinions
1. NoS
I can't rank opinions of other people because they're already wrong from the start.
This is a list of ranks
1. This is an item on said list
2. This is also an item
3. This...
Spoiler
is also an item on said list
4. This...
Spoiler
is not.
Favorite movies:
1. The Apartment
2. 2001: A Space Odyssey
3. No Country for Old Men
Then it's a mash of 12 Angry Men (57'), Shawshank, Godfather, South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut, and Bonnie and Clyde.
Greatest Films (in my opinion):
3D-Animated: Up
Animated: The Great Mouse Detective
Live-Action: It's A Wonderful Life
These opinions may change over time.
Best Mods:
1. Me
2-4. Everyone else
Worst Mods:
1-3. Everyone else
4. Me
I like how you put the effort into bolding the titles
that's why im the best obviously
I agree
Agreed
Quote from: LeviR.star on August 04, 2017, 07:22:45 AM3D-Animated: Up
I think Up has gotten a lot of backlash from people who are like "the first 10 minutes of the film is amazing, but the rest is awful and boring," and I completely disagree as well! While it's not my favorite Pixar film, I'd consider it solidly consistent overall and has one of the most terrifying (and actually quite sad) Pixar antagonists.
QuoteAnimated: The Great Mouse Detective
Definitely a really underappreciated film.
QuoteLive-Action: It's A Wonderful Life
For some reason, my dad hates this film and thinks it's incredibly boring. He does a pretty funny George Bailey impression, though. :P
The best live-action film of all time is Monty Python and the Holy Grail, this is a factual statement and cannot be argued against
the second best is The Princess Bride
Best DC Superhero:
Deathstroke
Best Movie:
The Terminator
Best Art Medium:
Movie
Best Way of Expressing Emotion:
Art Medium
Best Way of Cooking Steak:
Medium
Quote from: Yug_Guy on August 04, 2017, 03:20:45 PMBest DC Superhero:
Deathstroke
Best Movie:
The Terminator
Best Art Medium:
Movie
Best Way of Expressing Emotion:
Art Medium
Best Way of Cooking Steak:
Medium
this man is dead
bang
Unrelated, but this came up:
Quote from: LeviR.star on August 04, 2017, 03:24:13 PMRanking of soundtracks for the first 6 (for me):
1. (Best) 2
2. 6
3. 3
4. 4
5. 1
6. 5
I won't rank all 10 until I finish 7 (stuck on Guts Man G), but 7 and 9 have catchy soundtracks.
EDIT: wait this isn't the ranking topic
oh damn you put that edit in there and i didn't notice
Anyways, my Mega Man Classic series soundtrack ranking (not including MM&B or the GB titles):
1. 5
2. 6
3. 3
4. 2
5. 7
6. 9 (a lot of it is really, really samey to me)
7. 1
8. 10 (would probably be below 4 if the Mega Man Killer stage themes and Cybersheep's Dream weren't in here)
9. 4
10. 8 (but it's not really hot garbage)
EDIT: oh screw it now it's on my mind
here's the X series too, not including both Xtremes (they'd be at the bottom) or Command Mission (that soundtrack's lit tho)
1. X5
2. X6 (amazing for the messy game it comes from)
3. X4
4. X7 (surprisingly really good even though it's...y'know, X7)
5. X8 (pretty good but that guitar gets ooooooold)
6. X (classic but hard to listen to at times)
7. X2 (whiny)
8. X3 (boooooring)
Quote from: Dudeman on August 04, 2017, 03:28:44 PM1. 5
2. 6
3. 3
Good man.
Quote from: Dudeman on August 04, 2017, 03:28:44 PM6. 9 (a lot of it is really, really samey to me)
if you find it so same-y then why is it above 10
Quote from: Dudeman on August 04, 2017, 03:28:44 PM8. 10 (would probably be below 4 if the Mega Man Killer stage themes and Cybersheep's Dream weren't in here)
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Nitro Rider, Solar Inferno, King of Blades, For You, Abandoned Memory, Against the Pressure, No Turning Back, Wily Machine Battle, Staff Roll...
I might as well rank the GB titles by their soundtracks now.
1. (Best) IV
2. Dr. Wily's Revenge
3. II
4. V
5. III
Quote from: WaluigiTime64 on August 04, 2017, 03:33:27 PMSolar Inferno, No Turning Back, Wily Machine Battle, Staff Roll
agh okay fine, swap 1 and 10
EDIT:
Quote from: LeviR.star on August 04, 2017, 03:39:20 PM1. (Best) IV
2. Dr. Wily's Revenge
3. II
4. V
5. III
Quote from: LeviR.star on August 04, 2017, 03:39:20 PM3. II
I'M SORRY WHAT
Quote from: LeviR.star on August 04, 2017, 03:39:20 PM1. (Best) IV
2. Dr. Wily's Revenge
3. II
4. V
5. III
Swap II and V and I'll agree.
Also I just realised that Dudeman called 9's soundtrack too "samey", even though it was based off 2's soundtrack and is far less samey than 2.
WAIT SLOW DOWN SINCE WHEN IS II'S SOUNDTRACK BETTER THAN III'S
DO YOU HAVE EARS
I actually don't care which one of the two is at the bottom, because they're so bad I don't remember either.
at least III is in an octave that's audible to humans
like seriously I have no idea what's so bad about III help
Quote from: Dudeman on August 04, 2017, 03:44:14 PMWAIT SLOW DOWN SINCE WHEN IS II'S SOUNDTRACK BETTER THAN III'S
DO YOU HAVE EARS
While I will admit that II's soundtrack was too high-pitched, if you lower everything an octave and give it III-V instruments it's kinda catchy. This video shows that.
I'd also like to point out that Mega Man II's soundtrack is completely original, even if some songs like GB Top Man sound like NES Needle Man.
Also, III didn't have much of a soundtrack to begin with. Seriously, I just finished arranging all of it and it was easy. But Title Screen, New Weapon, and Wily Stage 2 were pretty good. But I personally would have liked III to take Dr. Wily's Revenge path and remix the Robot Master stage themes.
Mega Man Classic Series Main Game Soundtracks:
1. 5 (they're just comfortable to listen to)
2. 10 (everything)
3. 6 (it's difficult choosing between 10 and this. The diversity in both is beautiful, especially considering 6 only had one composer)
4. 3 (really good, but lacking in some areas, mainly Wily Stage themes)
5. 9 (the triangle pulse is too quiet, making good compositions hard to listen to)
6. 4 (bad drums but really good compositions)
7. 1 (it's alright but nothing too amazing)
8. 7 (it's alright but not too amazing either)
9. 2 (too samey, mediocre chiptuning (Password just hurts my ears), and Dr Wily Stage 2 has to play in 3 stages and that just sucks)
10. 8 (it's really not too bad, but it's lacking in a bunch of spots and only has a few amazing songs)
Quote from: WaluigiTime64 on August 04, 2017, 03:56:07 PM10. 8 (it's really not too bad, but it's lacking in a bunch of spots and only has a few amazing songs)
hey look, it's the gen 6 soundtrack all over again
Quote from: Dudeman on August 04, 2017, 03:44:14 PMWAIT SLOW DOWN SINCE WHEN IS II'S SOUNDTRACK BETTER THAN III'S
DO YOU HAVE EARS
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It's hard to tell if those are really ears...
shut up you don't have ears either
objectively best video games of all time
1. Wind Waker
2. EarthBound
3. A Link to the Past
4. League of Legends
5. Shovel Knight
Don't make me quote my previous list
it says "objectively" though, that means you need to prove I'm wrong
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on August 04, 2017, 05:38:43 PMit says "objectively" though, that means you need to prove I'm wrong
No one's wrong here, Noc; this is all opinion.
Quote from: LeviR.star on August 04, 2017, 06:01:03 PMNo one's wrong here, Noc; this is all opinion.
except my ranking is objective meaning it's been proven that these are the best. Trying to label it as "opinion" is foolhardy at best
Quote from: Maelstrom on August 03, 2017, 11:04:56 PMWorst opinions
1. NoS
You can't call a video game objectively "the best." Every portion of a video game is subject to a person's outlooks on life. That's why no person's top 10 video games are ever the same, and why no great game is objectively better than another. We all view media through our own perspective and all see different things.
My list:
1. Mother 3
2. Brothers: A Tale of Two Sons
3. Umineko no Naku koro Ni
4. Xenoblade Chronicles
5. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
6. Nine Hours, Nine Persons, Nine Doors
7. Portal 2
8. Super Metroid
9. Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
10. NieR: Automata
I enjoyed every second of these games, and, with the exception of Brothers, as I played it in one sitting, were games I always looked forward to playing and made time for. They're all games that have impacted me both as a gamer and a person. Yes, it's an opinion. It can't be anything else.
Quote from: Maelstrom on August 04, 2017, 07:17:44 PMYou can't call a video game objectively "the best."
I just did, whatup
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on August 04, 2017, 07:29:16 PMI just did, whatup
Tell me, Noc; did you take up ignorance as a hobby? Or is this purely uncontrolled?
In terms of design only:
1) Glaceon
2) Jolteon
3) Espeon
4) Leafeon
5) Sylveon
6) Vaporeon
7) Flareon
8} Umbreon
Love them all though <3
Quote from: LeviR.star on August 04, 2017, 07:31:35 PMTell me, Noc; did you take up ignorance as a hobby? Or is this purely uncontrolled?
you're cute
I'll explain when you're older
Levi's becoming a straight savage and I love it. NSM is finally rubbing off on him.
Eeveelutions Ranking (mostly design):
1. Espeon: Espeon is dope all around.
2. Jolteon: By and far the best of the classic, original Eeveelutions.
3. Leafeon: It's a bit on the thin/frail side, but I really like the nice, earthy color scheme.
4. Vaporeon: Cute lil' frill and fishy tail is pretty great.
5. Flareon: You can never go wrong with Flareon. Except the fact that Flareon desperately needed the Physical/Special split to come like, three generations earlier so that it didn't have so much wasted SpA. Boy, I'm really starting to ramble here. I should probably stop.
6. Umbreon: Its design is okay, if a bit minimalist. Black and yellow go pretty well together.
7. Sylveon: Flesh ribbons. Eww.
8. Glaceon: The original flesh ribbons. Weird dangly ear-things don't work at all for its design, and, in its sprites, makes it look extremely top heavy.
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on August 04, 2017, 08:25:18 PM8. Glaceon: The original flesh ribbons. Weird dangly ear-things don't work at all for its design, and, in its sprites, makes it look extremely top heavy.
welp
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on August 04, 2017, 08:25:18 PMEeveelutions Ranking (mostly design):
1. Espeon: Espeon is dope all around.
2. Jolteon: By and far the best of the classic, original Eeveelutions.
3. Leafeon: It's a bit on the thin/frail side, but I really like the nice, earthy color scheme.
4. Vaporeon: Cute lil' frill and fishy tail is pretty great.
5. Flareon: You can never go wrong with Flareon. Except the fact that Flareon desperately needed the Physical/Special split to come like, three generations earlier so that it didn't have so much wasted SpA. Boy, I'm really starting to ramble here. I should probably stop.
6. Umbreon: Its design is okay, if a bit minimalist. Black and yellow go pretty well together.
7. Sylveon: Flesh ribbons. Eww.
8. Glaceon: The original flesh ribbons. Weird dangly ear-things don't work at all for its design, and, in its sprites, makes it look extremely top heavy.
I like this list
@Maelstrom I'm a bit surprised that 999 beat out Virtue's Last Reward, and that both beat out the Ace Attorney trilogy haha.
Here's my list of favorite games, take the rankings with a grain of salt bc I love all of these a lot and if I was being totally accurate, the first six would be the Professor Layton games and the next six would be the Ace Attorney games. But you get the gist.
1. Professor Layton and the Curious Village
2. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Justice For All
3. Pokémon, I guess Black is my favorite
4. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask 3D
5. Super Mario 64 or New Super Mario Bros. U/Luigi U for favorite 3D and 2D Mario respectively
6. Hotel Dusk: Room 215
7. Danganronpa 2: Goodbye Despair
8. Zero Escape: Virtue's Last Reward
9. Animal Crossing: New Leaf
10. Undertale (I'm so sorry Noc I had Luigi's Mansion here but I had to list this one instead)
Honorable mentions and notes:
-Again, Luigi's Mansion was really close to making the cut
-I originally had the entire AA trilogy as number 2, but ultimately decided that was cheating. Rest assured, all of the AA games are right there underneath Layton.
-Steins;gate is as good as Virtue's Last Reward, but the latter doesn't have the slow and borderline boring setup quite so much.
-Mario & Luigi RPGs, mainly didn't put these on because it's impossible for me to pick one. I guess Partners in Time is my favorite.
-Professor Layton and the Diabolical Box is about on par with Curious Village for me as my favorite, but I've played the latter more times (it's my most frequently replayed game ever) and it's ultimately the one I felt like I needed to put.
-Same goes for Last Window: The Secret of Cape West, which is as good as Hotel Dusk but which I've only played once while I've played Hotel Dusk about five times.
-Ocarina of Time 3D is basically tied with Majora's Mask, I consider them two parts of one bigger picture. Majora's Mask is just the one I like a little more.
If making this list has taught me anything, it's that I usually like the quirkier or darker sequels as much or more as the originals (see Layton, AA, Zelda, Mario & Luigi, Zero Escape) and also I like single player generally more than multiplayer games
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 04, 2017, 08:33:19 PM2. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Justice For All
3. Pokémon, I guess Black is my favorite
7. Danganronpa 2: Goodbye Despair
8. Zero Escape: Virtue's Last Reward
<3
@slow
To be perfectly honest, as great as VLR was, it wasn't as focused as 999 and didn't have quite the tension. The puzzles weren't quite as good. In the end, I chose 999 because it had a much bigger impact on me personally. As for the Ace Attorney games, I think they're great, but I would hesitate to call any of them perfect, or close to that. They all have low points, and every game suffers from poor pacing at some point. Even AA2, my favorite game, has a very, very slow start, and it's not really nessicary at all. I feel similar about the danganronpa games. They're great, don't get me wrong, but they always have a few plot twists that I see coming or rub me the wrong way. The games I listed made the list because they didn't do that for me.
Edit: Wait, you chose JFA? Really? I've always thought it was the weakest of the original trilogy and compared it to Investigations 1 in quality.
Best Games to hate on ever:
1. Sonic 06
2. The Legend of Zelda: Wand of Gamalon
3. Hotel Mario
Here's another list.
Best Eeveelutions (by design also):
1. Umbreon
2. Vaporeon
3. Flareon
4. Glaceon
5. Sylveon
6. Leafeon
7. Jolteon
8. Espeon
Quote from: Dudeman on August 04, 2017, 03:59:48 PMshut up you don't have ears either
...I'm sorry, you were saying?
Quote from: DocDoom2 on August 04, 2017, 09:51:07 PMBest Games to hate on ever:
1. Sonic 06
2. The Legend of Zelda: Wand of Gamalon
3. Hotel Mario
you must be joking
those are all masterpieces how dare you
Favorite games:
1. PMD: Explorers
2. Link's Awakening (DX)
3. Portal 1/2
4. Super Paper Mario
5. PMD: Rescue
6. SMGalaxy
7. Superstar Saga
8. Diamond and Pearl
9. Lisa
10. Undertale
I need a better list but I can't remember all my favorites right now :/ anyway, those games I played when I was younger really made an impact on me more than ones i've played recently.
Quote from: Maelstrom on August 04, 2017, 09:32:17 PM@slow
To be perfectly honest, as great as VLR was, it wasn't as focused as 999 and didn't have quite the tension. The puzzles weren't quite as good. In the end, I chose 999 because it had a much bigger impact on me personally. As for the Ace Attorney games, I think they're great, but I would hesitate to call any of them perfect, or close to that. They all have low points, and every game suffers from poor pacing at some point. Even AA2, my favorite game, has a very, very slow start, and it's not really nessicary at all. I feel similar about the danganronpa games. They're great, don't get me wrong, but they always have a few plot twists that I see coming or rub me the wrong way. The games I listed made the list because they didn't do that for me.
Edit: Wait, you chose JFA? Really? I've always thought it was the weakest of the original trilogy and compared it to Investigations 1 in quality.
I love how bizarre the cases in JFA are and 2-4 is probably my favorite episode. Also I love Franziska. Also this was the AA game that made me a real hardcore fan.
Like I said though the entire trilogy is tied honestly
I've been trying to decide whether 999 or VLR is better for over a year now. I still haven't come to a conclusion...
It's a tough call, but ultimately VLR is so much deeper for me and has the better escape rooms. It's also a really nice-sized adventure if you want it to be, and the multiple routes mechanic in the game was justified in such an awesome way, basically elaborating on what 999 introduced and making it way cooler. I also like Sigma better as a protagonist and liked the end of game twists better. So that's my reasoning.
Here is another list of items in a rank.
1. This is an item on said list.
2. This is an item ONLY ON THURSDAYS.
3. This is not an item, but it is on the list.
4. This is the list itself, compressed into infinitely smaller spaces within each "4th item" slot.
5. This is
Haven't seen this in a while... Huh.
JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHNNNNNNNNNNN CEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
^^ Promote this man
Mk double dash
Mk Wii
Mk8
Mk64
Lesser mk games I haven't played
Mk 3
Mk ds
1. Read #4.
2. Read #3.
3. Read #1.
4. Read #2.
5. Paradoxes.
I'm so bored right now.
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on August 14, 2017, 08:42:03 AMMk double dash
Mk Wii
Mk8
Mk64
Lesser mk games I haven't played
Mk 3
Mk ds
Why is DS at the bottom, behind 64?
Because the Mario kart ds games were the worst of the entire series
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on August 14, 2017, 10:40:31 AMBecause the Mario kart ds games were the worst of the entire series
Says the one who never played it. MKDS was actually really good (worlds better than Super Circuit).
Quote from: Olimar12345 on August 14, 2017, 10:43:29 AMSays the one who never played it. MKDS was actually really good (worlds better than Super Circuit).
Never played it, you say?
I love bringing this out
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Wooooooow, that's soooo hi-technicaaaaaaaal. I need to post that on Digibutter.nerr. The guys are gonna freak!
1. 8
2. Every other Mario Kart
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 14, 2017, 11:02:22 AM1. 8
2. Every other Mario Kart
If 8 includes its Deluxe version, then I agree.
They're the same game so ya
Deluxe is a little bit better but not enough to count it as a separate game
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 14, 2017, 11:25:43 AMThey're the same game so ya
Deluxe is a little bit better but not enough to count it as a separate game
Right. So, in that sense, we can't say that 8 as a whole has the worst battle mode.
Deluxe is better than 8. It actually has battle mode.
Quote from: Olimar12345 on August 14, 2017, 11:27:22 AMDeluxe is better than 8. It actually has battle mode.
Exactly. Which makes it the best Mario Kart title.
My gameplay rankings of Mario Kart games I've actually played at least twice (I think I've played Mario Kart 7 once on my older sister's 3DS and Mario Kart Super Circuit once on my cousin's GBA):
- Mario Kart Double Dash: I actually got decent at this game, the music's great, the two-racers-per-kart idea never gets old...
- Mario Kart DS: I managed to unlock everything, which is pretty sweet, but the fact that I only played it with the sound on about half the time makes the music a lot less memorable for me.
- Mario Kart 64: The controls were always too swingy for me, I don't think I ever beat 50cc Star Cup or 150cc Mushroom Cup...trying to play it later in the dentist's waiting room with semi-broken controllers didn't help.
Mario Karts:
- Wii.
- Any Mario Kart that allows you to honk your horn manually.
- Everything else.
Quote from: WaluigiTime64 on August 14, 2017, 01:05:08 PMMario Karts:
- Wii.
- Any Mario Kart that allows you to honk your horn manually.
- Everything else.
Wii's my second favorite. While this has nothing to do with why it's the second best, it's my first Mario Kart.
My top 20 favorite tracks from Pokemon Diamond Pearl and Platinum
- Battle (Champion Cynthia)
- Game Corner
- Route 209
- Battle (Giratina)
- Stark Mountain
- Route 225
- Canalave City
- Sunyshore City
- Capture the Flag
- Come Along
- Battle (Arceus)
- Team Galactic HQ
- Hearthome City
- Battle (Cyrus)
- Eterna City
- Route 201
- Sandgem Town
- Oreburgh City
- Old Chateau
- Champion Cynthia's Encounter Theme
Sonic Mania Zones (ranked by level design, theme, music, and bosses as factors):
GREAT:
Chemical Plant Zone: The only slight against this stage is that they didn't use this as a chance to eliminate the worst aspects of the original (i.e. drowning in purple water), but otherwise, still a great stage, and Act 2 is brilliant as well.
Studiopolis Zone: only complaint is no slot machines... and the first zone's boss is meh
GOOD:
Oil Ocean Zone: Another surprising inclusion, but a welcome one nonetheless. It's slightly more bearable than in the original, especially because the second act really mixes it up, and speaking of which, the ABSOLUTE BEST part of this stage was running into a fire shield and saying, "Wait... Flame Shield in a stage filled with oil? Can you... YES, YES! YOU CAN!" its brilliant
also when the second act's boss popped its "head" out of the oil
that was great too
Metallic Madness Zone: A pretty good stage made all the better by a clever little gimmick. The Act 2 boss is bloody BRILLIANT, to boot.
Green Hill Zone: Nothing wrong here; great introduction stage, and pretty simple, but effective overall. Also a fitting first zone for Sonic's (true) revival.
Mirage Saloon Zone: Making the first act this game's version of Sky Chase Zone (in this game's version of Dust Hill Zone, nonetheless!) was pretty clever, and I don't have any bad things to say about this stage overall. Also a plus is that it seems like it's harder to accidentally kill yourself in the sky part of the level. I only did once, but then again, I was purposefully messing around to test its limits (and that took quite a while to accomplish!)
Press Garden Zone: Pretty good stage. The ice gimmick was rather interesting, but I can't help but feel something more could have been added to make it more interesting to explore. Maybe I just failed at exploration. I dunno. Exploration doesn't really feel as "accessible" in this stage as in other, older stages.
OKAY:
Titanic Monarch Zone: Pretty good for a final stage (suitable in length, at least), but certain parts of it can be downright frustrating to play, especially as Super Sonic, which... should not be a thing. It's SUPER Sonic for a reason.
Lava Reef Zone: Seriously, why did they have to pick all the worst stages from Sonic 3 & Knuckles? I mean, it's not absolutely terrible in this game, but I don't doubt that there were better stages that could have been picked. Granted, I'm not really as much a fan of Sonic 3's zones as I am of Sonic 2's, but I probably would have picked (a better) Hydrocity Zone (with influence taken from Aquatic Ruin Zone, most notably that fact that you can easily avoid being anywhere near the water), Marble Garden instead of Flying Battery Zone, and IceCap Zone instead of Lava Reef Zone. And probably make Stardust Speedway a mashup with another zone, like Star Light Zone or something. But I suppose having to pick around the new stages with conflicting themes was a thing.
Stardust Speedway: Take away Sonic CD's time travel mechanic, and you take away a lot of what was good about the stage, and what's left over is "okay" level design that's a bit unfun to navigate and surprisingly slow speed for a level with "Speed" in its name. The aesthetics and new mechanics added to the stage are pretty interesting, though.
BAD:
Hydrocity Zone: more like... ATROCITY ZONE! *snicker snicker* The best part of this is that they added boats and stuff and the Act 1 boss. Everything else is bad. nobody likes water levels like this
Flying Battery Zone: Probably the most broken zone overall. Wasn't fun in the original, but I'm pretty sure they made it worse in this one. How many times can I get caught in the walls as Knuckles? The world may never know! Too much instakill stuff.
For my next magic trick, I'll incite major arguments by providing the best 2D Super Mario Bros. games with no context
1. New Super Mario Bros. U
2. New Super Luigi U
3. Super Mario Bros. 3
4. New Super Mario Bros.
5. New Super Mario Bros. Wii
6. Super Mario World
7. Super Mario Bros. 2
8. Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels
9. Super Mario Bros.
10. New Super Mario Bros. 2
People still care about the 2D Mario games?
U suck
Putting Mario World that low is definitely an interesting decision.
Quote from: Dudeman on August 24, 2017, 02:43:43 PMPutting Mario World that low is definitely an interesting decision.
There's a big gap between Mario Bros. 2 and the rest below it.
Ur wrong
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 24, 2017, 01:57:26 PMFor my next magic trick, I'll incite major arguments by providing the best 2D Super Mario Bros. games with no context
1. New Super Mario Bros. U
2. New Super Luigi U
3. Super Mario Bros. 3
4. New Super Mario Bros.
5. New Super Mario Bros. Wii
6. Super Mario World
7. Super Mario Bros. 2
8. Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels
9. Super Mario Bros.
10. New Super Mario Bros. 2
I agree, mostly, but I would personally move NSMB2 up past SMB2, switch NSMB with NSMBW, and move NSLU below SMB3.
In terms of level design/interesting gameplay/complexity, I'd probably order my top 3 like so:
1. Super Mario World
2. Super Mario Bros. 3
3. New Super Luigi U (While I still don't understand this game's existence, I think it does a really nice job of actually switching up the tired out NSMB-style gameplay with some actually interesting levels. I just wish there was more of it.)
The rest of the Mario games are really similar to me in terms of overall quality. However, Lost Levels would definitely be at the bottom because many of its design choices are unfair (invisible blocks, backwards warp zones, etc.), especially to people who haven't played the game before or don't know anything about it. The rest of the game is just bland to me. Even the original SMB, while I still don't think it holds up as well as SMB3 or SMW, has much tighter level design overall. I love difficult games, but not when it's just tedious trial-and-error stuff.
To be fair, even Super Mario World and Super Mario Bros. 3 have a few levels in that tedious/unfair category (Valley of Bowser 2 & Tubular, to name a few).
Quote from: Static on August 24, 2017, 05:34:56 PM3. New Super Luigi U (While I still don't understand this game's existence, I think it does a really nice job of actually switching up the tired out NSMB-style gameplay with some actually interesting levels. I just wish there was more of it.)
Yes
I approve
Quote from: Static on August 24, 2017, 05:34:56 PMTubular
T R I G G E R E D
NSMBU suffers from a bad opening few worlds, but ohhhh man it becomes so much fun, and surprisingly challenging for a Mario game. And New Super Luigi U is like an ultra fun challenge mode that's even more insanely hard. I 100%ed both and had a great time doing it.
The reason why I prefer Super Mario World (and to a lesser extent, SMB3) over every other 2D Mario game is not the sheer amount of challenge they offered, but rather the creativity, nuance, variety, and depth put in to almost every level in these games.
While NSMBU certainly has tight level design (there's only a small handful of 2D Mario games that have mainly incoherent or unfair level design), almost everything in it has been done before to the same extent, if not better, in earlier titles (even earlier NSMB games). While I guess you could think of NSMBU as a refined version of the previous NSMB games, and I wholeheartedly agree that it's a fun game, it lacks the heart and memorability of games like SMW.
every single Mario game ever is more or less the exact same thing
except for Sunshine and Galaxy
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on August 26, 2017, 04:10:52 PMevery single Mario game ever is more or less the exact same thing
except for Sunshine and Galaxy
Well, I wouldn't say that...
What you can say is that every NSMB game except for New Super Luigi U is actually the exact the same thing
Quote from: mastersuperfan on August 26, 2017, 04:46:05 PMWhat you can say is that every NSMB game except for New Super Luigi U is actually the exact the same thing
What has msf got against 2D Mario?
I have nothing against it, I'm only stating the facts for what they are
the Mario franchise is insanely repetitive so if you like the gameplay a lot that's fantastic
if platformers aren't your thing there's only a few of them that you'll like
Quote from: mastersuperfan on August 26, 2017, 05:00:45 PMI'm only stating the facts for what they are
Calling those statements "facts" is pretty extreme. Each New Super Mario Bros. game is similiar, because they're all called, "New Super Mario Bros.". Each game has plenty of differences.
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on August 26, 2017, 04:10:52 PMevery single Mario game ever is more or less the exact same thing
except for Sunshine and 64
Galaxy, to me, shares a lot more with its 2D predecessors than anything else in terms of level design and structure. Ever since Galaxy, the trend has gotten a lot more noticable in each subsequent 3D Mario game (though Odyssey might change that). 64 and Sunshine, on the other hand, are much more focused on exploration and collecting things, especially Sunshine.
While it's up to you whether which gameplay style is better, there's no doubt that the 3D games have been aligning more and more with the 2D games ever since Galaxy. Personally, I prefer just pure platforming in my Mario games, but 64/Sunshine have their own merits, such as incredibly varied objectives and deeper controls.
Quote from: Static on August 26, 2017, 06:22:07 PM64/Sunshine have their own merits, such as incredibly varied objectives and deeper controls.
and their own downfalls, such as 100-coin stars and pachinko machines
and the blue coins, and the wing cap red coins thing, and the lily pad ride, and the roller coaster balloons, and the watermelon on gelato beach...
maybe I was blinded by the amazing orchestral soundtrack
Quote from: Static on August 26, 2017, 06:49:04 PMand the watermelon on gelato beach...
AGH FUCK MAN I'D FORGOTTEN ABOUT THAT WHY DID YOU HAVE TO REMIND ME
Quote from: mastersuperfan on August 26, 2017, 07:11:28 PMAGH FUCK MAN I'D FORGOTTEN ABOUT THAT WHY DID YOU HAVE TO REMIND ME
It wasn't
that bad.
It was.
I think it was pretty bad
Quote from: Static on August 26, 2017, 06:49:04 PMand the watermelon on gelato beach...
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Pachinko Machine is still way worse.
I don't think I've gotten that shine sprite to this day
No, the worst is the lily pad ride...
...taking like 10 minutes to ride the boats over with yoshi (who cant touch water for some reason)...
...you only get one shot to get all the red coins or else you have to tediously hover across the river and hope you don't die...
...that one fucking pipe at the end that you think takes you back the beginning of the stage...
It's just awful.
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do not
when Mario cleans the goop off you
JUST
RIGHT
New sig right there
EDIT, nvm too many characters
QuoteI might as well rank the GB titles by their soundtracks now.
1. (Best) IV
2. Dr. Wily's Revenge
3. II
4. V
5. III
I might as well revise my older list and specify some more.
Almost Everything
Soundtracks in General
1. (Best) IV
2. Dr. Wily's Revenge
3. V (Wah had a point)
4. II (V deserves that spot up there)
5. III
Title Screen Themes:
1. IV
2. III
3. II
4. Dr. Wily's Revenge
5. V
Password Themes:
1. Dr. Wily's Revenge
2. II
3. V
4. IV
5. III
Stage Select Themes:
1. V
2. Dr. Wily's Revenge
3. IV
4. Dr. Wily's Revenge (Prototype)
5. II
6. III (Mainly due to its lack of originality)
Stage Start Themes:
1. IV
2. V
3. Dr. Wily's Revenge
4. III (Unoriginal, but better than these down here)
5. II
6. Dr. Wily's Revenge (Prototype)
Stage Clear Themes:
1. IV
2. V
3. Dr. Wily's Revenge
4. III (Still better than II's)
5. II
Get a Weapon Themes:
1. III
2. V
3. Dr. Wily's Revenge
4. IV
5. II (It's ok, but too influenced by 3's)
Game Over Themes (III - V Only)
1. III (They made us hear this one a lot)
2. IV
3. V
Final Boss Victory Themes (III - V Only)
1. V
2. III
3. IV
Ending Themes
1. V
2. IV
3. Dr. Wily's Revenge (Possible Prototype Ending?)
4. Dr. Wily's Revenge
5. III
6. II
The stage themes from V are really weird but really catchy for some reason.
I still don't understand how on earth you can put II above III overall. We shouldn't be judging potential here, we should be judging what was actually programmed into the games, and II is physically painful.
In fairness III has some physically painful parts too. II is just easy. III had parts that made me want to kill myself.
III is severely lacking in original tunes; II's music was an octave too high most of the time, but the composer tried his darnedest to capture the essence of both 2 & 3's music, and he did a pretty good job, imo.
III is still a better game overall, I will agree.
Quote from: blueflower999 on October 15, 2017, 10:34:25 AMIn fairness III has some physically painful parts too. II is just easy. III had parts that made me want to kill myself.
I was talking about the soundtrack :P
Well regardless of which one's better between the two, they're still miles below IV and V's soundtrack.
Pixar Movies, Ranked
Fantastic:
WALL-E (2008): do i even need to explain; it's beautiful and a work of art
Toy Story 3 (2010)
Coco (2017): Basically what Inside Out should've been.
The Incredibles (2004)
Up (2009): The best opening and by far one of the best Pixar villains. Essentially a story about a man who never fully got to live the life he wanted to live helping others be happy... how could you not love it?
Ratatouille (2007)
Toy Story (1995)
Toy Story 4 (2019)
Great:
Finding Nemo (2003)
Monsters, Inc. (2001)
Onward (2020): The trailers don't really do it justice. I like the setting, and it hits all the emotional beats you expect from a Pixar movie.
Luca (2021): Very charming and simple film. Doesn't do anything flashy or particularly complex, but that's not a bad thing. :3
Toy Story 2 (1999)
Turning Red (2022)
Soul (2020): Very good overall, but some plot elements feel a bit contrived, especially everything related to "the zone" and Moonwind.
Incredibles 2 (2018)
Good:
Inside Out (2015)
Finding Dory (2016)
Monsters University (2013)
Cars 3 (2017): Definitely the best of the Cars movies, because it has a decent plot and a fair amount of emotional investment. Also probably the funniest. The first 15 minutes of the film is actually really amazing.
Okay:
Brave (2012): Doesn't really seem like a Pixar film; it's fairly forgettable at times but it's pretty good overall.
The Good Dinosaur (2015): It's pretty much just a cowboy film with dinosaurs, which is, uh, something, but aside from that the film isn't really too compelling.
Cars 2 (2011): I like this one better than the first because of how out-there and unexpected it is. Cars is just kind of bland, but it's hard to hate a spy movie with cars.
Meh:
Cars (2006): It's ok, I guess, but it's not really compelling in any way.
A Bug's Life (1998): Nothing about this film does anything for me.
Haven't Seen
Lightyear (2022)
Elemental (2023)
Inside Out 2 (2024)
Will add more commentary and stuff eventually.
BDS, I didn't have a list made already, but I must say that we have very similar opinions, because I wouldn't really change this list.
Quote from: LeviR.star on July 19, 2018, 08:37:02 AMI asked Jimmy John's to write a joke on the bag for delivery. They just wrote "Subway".
that's bold talk for somewhere with such mediocre sandwiches
Firehouse Subs > Jersey Mike's > Togo's > Which Wich > Subway > Jimmy John's > Quiznos
Firehouse Subs is A+, Subway is good, and Quiznos is bleh.
Why does the good dinosaur get such a bad rap/fly under the radar? It's a freaking fantastic movie
For me it was darkness-induced audience apathy. Arlo was beaten up so hard I kinda detached myself from him and the movie as a whole.
Also I can't really describe this (because it's been ages since I've seen it), but it felt like something was missing in it.
That's a weird take. Anyway when my sister and I saw it we both cried
I still haven't seen it, but from what I understand, the movie is visually gorgeous but the plot is just...lacking. Also for the record, that and Cars 3 are the only Pixar films I haven't seen yet.
Honestly I loved the plot
Also every Pixar movie is gorgeous that's just a given! Yeah I skipped Cars 2 and 3. I hated the first one.
Coco was the best movie though. Also Finding Dory, fuck I love Finding Dory. And Ratatouille. And Wall-e.
Morbid curiosity took over one day and I watched Cars 3 (it was available on Netflix). I honestly think it's the best of the trilogy, if only because the story was so much better than the previous two. It also helps that Mater is barely in the movie, because I've always felt he was obnoxious.
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on July 19, 2018, 10:52:31 PMFirehouse Subs > Jersey Mike's > Togo's > Which Wich > Subway > Jimmy John's > Quiznos
I most agree with this, but I'd make a few edits:
DiBella's > Penn Station > Jersey Mike's > Firehouse > Jimmy John's > Subway > Quizno's
Never been to Togo's and there's none where I live, so I can't really make a judgement on that one.
Now for Pixar moves, I'm not sure where everything on my list would be, but WALL-E, the first Toy Story, and Ratatouille would definitely be at the top.
Most Pixar movies are works of absolute art. Even Cars 2 isn't horrible, imo.
I just saw wall-e yesterday and i thought it was great! ;D Anyone else want 2 share their opinion about the movie? thumbs up? thumbs down? what do you guys think? ???
(^ yeah right!)
I watched it early on as an elementary-aged kid, and loved it. I still love it to this day; I believe it to be one of Pixar's finest works.
Wow, WALL-E came out just over ten years ago. That doesn't make me feel old at all. I haven't seen the film in a long time, but from what remember it was good. (Although perhaps the 2001 references were a little over the top).
I have to say Inside Out resonated deeply with me on a personal level. So much of it was a symbol for depression. I absolutely loved it and it will probably always be my favorite Pixar movie........though Wall-E is a great one too. I'd say it ties with Incredibles for 2nd place.
Wall-E is one of the few movies from my childhood that I remember seeing in theaters, and honestly I cry every time. I empathize way too much with a bunch of robots.
Strangely enough, the new Incredibles 2 is the only Pixar movie I've ever seen in theaters
I am now disappointed in braix. You can do better.
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on June 16, 2018, 09:20:03 PMPixar Movies, Ranked
Fantastic:
WALL-E (2008): do i even need to explain; it's beautiful and a work of art
Toy Story 3 (2010)
Coco (2017): Basically what Inside Out should've been.
The Incredibles (2004)
Up (2009): The best opening and by far one of the best Pixar villains. Essentially a story about a man who never fully got to live the life he wanted to live helping others be happy... how could you not love it?
Ratatouille (2007)
Toy Story (1995)
Great:
Incredibles 2 (2018)
Finding Nemo (2003)
Monsters, Inc. (2001)
Toy Story 2 (1999)
Good:
Inside Out (2015)
Finding Dory (2016)
Monsters University (2013)
Okay:
Brave (2012): Doesn't really seem like a Pixar film; it's fairly forgettable at times but it's pretty good overall.
The Good Dinosaur (2015): It's pretty much just a cowboy film with dinosaurs, which is, uh, something, but aside from that the film isn't really too compelling.
Cars 2 (2011): I like this one better than the first because of how out-there and unexpected it is. Cars is just kind of bland, but it's hard to hate a spy movie with cars.
Meh:
Cars (2006): It's ok, I guess, but it's not really compelling in any way.
A Bug's Life (1998): Nothing about this film does anything for me.
Haven't Seen
Cars 3 (2017)
Will add more commentary and stuff eventually.
Now watch Cars 3
Quote from: LeviR.star on August 04, 2018, 08:38:36 PMNow watch Cars 3
Challenge accepted.
I updated my Pixar Rankings (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/index.php?topic=9540.msg400783#msg400783) with Cars 3.
Cars 3 is really good!
"There are no bad pixar films"
What's a more pointless list of rankings than 42 soundtracks from a single franchise that has very few active fans on NSM being ranked in 5 separate parts across two posts due to the character limit because I'm bored?
Actually I'm sure there's several, but this one still feels pretty pointless. LESZGO!!
I'm...pretty obsessed with the Mega Man franchise, to say the least. I actually totally forgot I was super into it as a kid until something caused me to rediscover it not long after joining NSM (I must've been 14 or 15?). That was a hell of a nostalgia trip, lemme tell ya, and I can attribute a big chunk of the nostalgia rush to the music. Ever since then I've only become more obsessed with the franchise and its music, and now my iTunes playlist has 42 Mega Man soundtracks in it and virtually every song has been listened to at least, uh...on average probably 2 times, but that's very unevenly spread. And then I bought the Legacy Collection pack on Switch and then Mega Man 11 came out and then Capcom decided to make Legacy Collections for the X and Zero/ZX serieses I thought, hey, this franchise is pretty underrated past the mid-90's, so why not shed some light on some of the absolute musical gems throughout the whole series? So here we are.
A couple of notes:
- I haven't touched the Legends series at all, so that's 2 (and a half? Does Tron Bonne's solo adventure count?) soundtracks completely missing that I have no experience with at all. Truth be told, I'm not sure where to find a good, complete, and clearly-titled playlist for either game.
- Most spinoffs are missing as well. The ones I have included are just there because I happen to have them on hand. If there are any spinoff soundtracks you highly recommend, I'd love to know! (I'll quickly mention Rockman.EXE 4.5 because I love that it remixes the Classic stage themes for its NetNavi themes, but it's a pretty underwhelming OST regardless.)
- This is pretty much 5 separate lists, because 1 top 40 is much harder than 5 top 8's (approximately). I've separated the soundtracks into: Classic, Gameboy, X, Zero & ZX, and Battle Network & Star Force. ZX and Star Force don't have enough individual titles to justify individual lists, and they're very closely tied to Zero and Battle Network respectively in both gameplay and composition (they both share composers with their previous series).
- For each soundtrack, I've listed up to 7 standout tracks, bolding ones that are
especially good. At the end of each game I'll pick my absolute favorite to embed a YouTube video for. If by some crazy chance you actually decide to go through this and want an idea of a soundtrack, the one YouTube vid should be an easy way to get an idea.
- Okay really this is just me geeking out. #SorryNotSorry.
...okay, time to do the stupid.
Dudeman's Pointless Mega Man OST Rankings of PointlessnessMega Man ClassicFeaturing 12 titles (1 - 11, Mega Man & Bass)
Spoiler
#12
Mega Man
Release Year: 1987 (NES)
Composer: Manami MatsumaeI mean, we all have to start somewhere, right? Even without being terribly familiar with the franchise, you could probably guess that the very first outing on NES wouldn't be hitting the top of the charts. Now, lemme preface this chunk of the list by saying that there really aren't any
bad Classic soundtracks, and honestly everything past, oh, number 8 could be swapped around a bit depending on my mood on any given day. But the original Mega Man game is the closest to the "yeah this isn't that great" line and
almost strays over it. The music has this vaguely warbly sound to it and the compositions are simple, repetitive, and sometimes just kinda boring. It's not worth ignoring, though!
Standout Tracks- Fire Man Stage
- Elec Man Stage
- Ending
Top PickCut Man Stage
#11
Mega Man 4
Release Year: 1991 (NES)
Composer: Minae FujiiI really don't know what it is about Mega Man 4, but it's just never really grabbed me in any way. The boss lineup and stage design are pretty meh imo, and the music somehow got infected with that too. It's never struck me as particularly memorable, and some tracks are
suspiciously derivative of earlier Mega Man tracks (notable example: the opening measure to Bright Man Stage is virtually identical to Fire Man Stage from MM1). Also the boss theme is so bad.
Also also kudos to Mega Man 4 for having a password theme that scared me when I was young. (
The freaking password theme made me scared of the completely harmless password screen. How do you do that?!) That said, this one has some diamonds in the rough, and this is definitely the last "iffy" soundtrack in this Classic list.
Standout Tracks-
Pharaoh Man Stage- Skull Man Stage
- Dr. Cossack Stage 1
- Dr. Wily Stage 2
Top PickDr. Cossack Stage 2
#10
Mega Man 8
Release Year: 1996 (PSX), 1997 (Saturn)
Composer: Shuusaku UchiyamaMega Man 8 is an oddball, to say the least. It's the only Classic title to not appear on a Nintendo console during its initial release, being released simultaneously on the PlayStation and Sega Saturn. It's also got voice acting and full-motion video, which you've probably experienced if you've spent any amount of time in the YTP section of the internet (Dr. Light's infamous Elmer Fudd voice is quite popular, culminating in the even more infamous "Dogtah Wahwee" that if you haven't seen, please go watch). The soundtrack is strangely synth-y and experimental, and pretty far removed from the rest of the Mega Man genre. I was tempted to put this at the bottom, but compositionally this soundtrack really isn't that bad. It's just...different. Notably, Tengu Man's stage theme is completely different between the PlayStation and Saturn versions, while everything else just has minor instrument adjustments between consoles.
Standout Tracks-
Opening (the overseas version, though I've heard good things about ELECTRICAL COMMUNICATION)
- Stage Select
- Grenade Man Stage
- Astro Man Stage
- Aqua Man Stage
- Wily Stage 1
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EndingTop PickIntro Stage
#9
Mega Man & Bass
Release Year: 1998 (SFC), 2002 (GBA)
Composers: Akari Kaida, Toshihiko Horiyama, Naoshi MizutaOriginally released exclusively in Japan on the Super Famicom as
Rockman & Forte and released overseas much later on the GBA, your opinion of Mega Man & Bass's soundtrack may vary greatly depending on if you're listening to the original, crisp, chill SFC soundtrack or the gritty, edgy, slightly-bitcrushed GBA rerelease. I personally have the most nostalgia and familiarity with the GBA version, but objectively I'd say the SFC is a better listen, even if it won't hit you as hard. Also, keep an eye out for Kaida and Horiyama; you might be seeing them again in higher spots.
Standout Tracks- The Robot Museum (Opening Stage)
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Dynamo Man Stage- Ground Man Stage
- Boss Battle
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Game Over (I remember this track making me feel especially remorseful when I played MM&B as a kid.)
-
CD Database- King Stages
Top PickCold Man Stage
This is the GBA version; you can look up the SFC version yourself.
#8
Mega Man 10
Release Year: 2010 (WiiWare/PSN/XBLA)
Composers: Ryo Kawakami, Ippo Yamada (feat. almost every other Classic composer)All right, this is the point where everything from here out is in a lot of flux. Generally these next five are interchangeable. Mega Man 10, aside from continuing the NES aesthetic that Mega Man 9 returned to, is notable for featuring a track from every Classic composer up to this point (excluding Takashi Tateishi, MM2's composer), each of whom contributed one of the 8 main stage themes. That includes Mr. Uchiyama, MM8's composer, and without telling you anything I'm 90% sure you could guess which one was his just by listening. On the whole, MM10's soundtrack is quite good, but it does suffer from a slight lack of cohesion thanks to this musical fanservice and I don't find it as memorable as the later entries in the list. Also, you'll be seeing Yamada's name quite a bit, much much later.
Standout Tracks-
Cybersheep's Dream- Solar Inferno
- Boss
- All three shop themes (Mega Man, Proto Man, and Bass)
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For You -BaneRoll's Theme--
No Turning Back- Farewell to Ballade
Top PickHeart of Enker
#7
Mega Man 9
Release Year: 2008 (WiiWare/PSN/XBLA)
Composers: Yu Shimoda, Ryo Kawakami, Hiroki IsogaiMega Man 9 returned to the 8-bit style of the first six games and brought an 8-bit soundtrack right along with it. Strangely, the triangle wave (that is, the bass music channel) was mixed very low in the final soundtrack, making MM9 attack the ears more than its original hardware counterparts. The compositions at work here, however, are masterful, though I still get a few mixed up.
Standout Tracks- Stage Select
- Concrete Jungle
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Splash Blue- Galaxy Fantasy
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Flash in the Dark- Wily Machine
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Overdrive ScrambleTop PickWe're the Robots
#6
Mega Man 11
Release Year: 2018 (Switch/PS4/XB1/PC)
Composer: Marika SuzukiBehold, the latest and pretty-goodest entry to the beloved Classic franchise! I remember booting up the demo with Block Man's stage in it, and the music immediately hooked me. Going through the whole thing now, it's not quite as sensational as I'd really like it to be. The sound as a whole is really phenominal; I love the really bassy and wub-wubby feel to the synths that gives them kind of a rounder, fuller sound to complement the absolutely gorgeous visuals. Unfortunately, I don't really find many of the tunes hummable. They sound great, but they definitely stay more in the background than sing into the foreground. Marika Suzuki did a wonderful job nonetheless, and this isn't her first Mega Man rodeo! You'll see her name again much later.
Standout Tracks-
Title- Stage Select
- Acid Man Stage
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Impact Man Stage- Fuse Man Stage
- Dr. Wily Stage
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Dr. Wily MachineTop PickBlock Man Stage
#5
Mega Man 3
Release Year: 1990 (NES)
Composer: Yasuaki FujitaStrangely, every time I think of Mega Man 3's soundtrack, I think very highly of it, but then when I go back and listen to it, I find myself underwhelmed. It's odd; all the pieces are very good and there's a hefty amount of iconic stuff in here. It's hard for me to put my finger on what exactly keeps me from being gripped by these; if anything, I suppose a lot of the tracks on display here don't seem to go anywhere after a strong start, which is always a hype-killer for me. But the good bits here?
Extremely good.
Standout Tracks-
Title- Pass Word
- Magnet Man Stage
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Gemini Man Stage- Shadow Man Stage
- Dr. Wily Stage 1
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Ending (Mega Man really tends to know how to do its ending themes. Strange trend.)
Top PickDr. Wily Stage 2
Easily one of the best final stage themes, period.
#4
Mega Man 2
Release Year: 1988 (NES)
Composer: Takashi TateishiPart of me feels filthy for putting Mega Man 2's famous, iconic, well-beloved soundtrack at number 4, but there's a reason that 8-Bit Music Theory did a video entitled "How To Write A Song From The Mega Man 2 Soundtrack": it's pretty formulaic. Functional and iconic? Yes. Hummable? Damn straight. Predictable? Unless it's Crash Man Stage, yup. Catch me some other day and I'd probably put it higher. But it's still amazing and good and I probably don't even need to show you these tracks, you've probably heard most of them already.
Standout Tracks-
Opening & Title- Pass Word
- Stage Select
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Air Man Stage-
Crash Man Stage- Flash Man Stage
- nice. >:]
Top Pickyou already know what it is
#3
Mega Man 7
Release Year: 1995 (SNES)
Composers: Toshihiko Horiyama, Makoto Tomozawa"Blasphemy!" I hear you cry. "Mega Man
7 above 2?? What is this bullcrap?!" Well, hear me out: with the jump to 8 sound channels with custom soundfonts on the SNES, MM7's compositions have a depth, nuance, and layering to them completely unrivaled by the NES before it. So why #3? I don't think its melodies quite live up to the next two for pure awesomeness. But damn, MM7 is an underrated gem. It's my favorite of the Classic titles, by the way, and that's coming off of just finishing all of them within a couple weeks of each other.
Oh yeah, also? If you hold B while entering Shade Man's stage, the music turns into an original arrangement of Ghosts 'N Goblins. And it's badass.
Standout Tracks- Iceberg Area
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Medical Science Lab- Horror Fortress
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Turtle's Realm- Walk the Invisible
- Wily Machine #7 Battle
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A Hero ReturnsTop PickForgotten Factory
#2
Mega Man 6
Release Year: 1993 (NES)
Composer: Yuko TakeharaSo, Mega Man 6 has a special place in my heart. When I was young (9 or 10, probably?) I was first introduced to the concept of emulation by way of a little website called vnes.com, a browser-based NES emulator. Something compelled me to check out the six Mega Man titles available, and don't ask me why, but I stuck to 6 specifically, and it's always been a little piece of nostalgia for me. Heck, one of the first things I ever arranged here on NSM was the entirety of MM6's soundtrack (minus what had already been done). Going back these days, the game is actually pretty easy and the soundtrack has lost a tad bit of its charm, but I've always loved the melodies, the variety, and the driving force at the core of MM6's soundtrack.
Standout Tracks- Opening
- Flame Man Stage
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Knight Man Stage- Tomahawk Man Stage
- Mr. X Stage
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Dr. Wily Stage-
Last BossTop PickBlizzard Man Stage
#1
Mega Man 5
Release Year: 1992 (NES)
Composer: Mari YamaguchiAw yeah baybee, Mega Man 5's soundtrack is lit, fam.
Excuse me, let me try that again.
I am just in love with this soundtrack. Soaring melodies, driving basslines, counterpoint, harmony, modulation, such complexity in such primitive hardware. Mari Yamaguchi absolutely killed this one, I just love it to pieces. Virtually every piece in the soundtrack I could listen to on repeat and never get tired of (except Star Man. You know what you did). If you wanna hear some good Classic Mega Man musical action, I will point you here first.
And bonus points: Mari Yamaguchi composed my favorite main stage theme in MM10: Cybersheep's Dream.
Standout Tracks- Opening & Title
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Gravity Man Stage- Wave Man Stage
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Charge Man Stage- Dark Man Stage
- Dr. Wily Stage
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EndingTop PickIf you recognize my avatar you know exactly what this is
Featuring 5 titles (Dr. Wily's Revenge, II - V)
This boi gets his own section because the Gameboy games are, uh...unique. And it felt a little unfair to throw them into the Classic section. (This one's for you, Levi, I guess.)
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#5
Mega Man II
Release Year: 1991 (GB)
Composer: Kenji YamazakiIn a top 42, this one is number 43. It's bad. Please do not listen. Everything is an octave too high and the boss theme is oh god please make the bad man stop. It's a shame, too, because there are a
few interesting melodic ideas here, buried beneath dog-whistle frequencies and conflicting square channels. This pick is a formality; do yourself a favor and move on.
Standout TracksNONE OF THEM. >:(
Top PickAir Man Stage
I could have put something more...
representative of the whole soundtrack here. Be thankful I didn't.
#4
Mega Man V
Release Year: 1994 (GB)
Composer: Kouji MurataMega Man V's soundtrack is
functionally fine, but...it doesn't matter how many times I listen to it, I can't distinguish between the main stage themes. They're all the same tempo and hardly do anything interesting melodically to distinguish themselves from each other (except Uranus and Venus, those are the
only two I can identify). But there's nothing wrong with the compositions themselves, and I still enjoy the soundtrack; I'm only disappointed that most of the tracks fail to establish a unique presence from each other.
Standout Tracks- Prologue Part 2 - Theme of Terra
- Stage Select
- Uranus Stage
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Space Rush Shooting Stage-
Final Stage - Wily StarTop PickUltimate Weapon: Sunstar
#3
Mega Man III
Release Year: 1992 (GB)
Composer: Kouji MurataMega Man III and Mega Man IV's soundtracks both feature robot master stage themes and boss themes ripped right out of the games those robots are sourced from, so for all intents and purposes, III and IV's tracklists have 9 or 10 less tracks than advertised. What Mega Man III has is actually really good; the problem is that after that cut (and fanfares, and also stage select themes), it only leaves about 7 tracks total. Funnily enough, I get more enjoyment out of those 7 tracks than the multitude more that V has, so it ends up higher.
Standout Tracks- Title Theme
- Got Weapon
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Password-
Ending Theme - Justice MarchTop PickFinal Stage - Wily Marine Fortress
#2
Mega Man: Dr. Wily's Revenge
Release Year: 1991 (GB)
Composer: Makoto TomozawaUnlike its younger brothers, Dr. Wily's Revenge actually features remixes of its stage themes instead of just re-transcribing them note-for-note from the original NES. And when those stage themes are from the original Mega Man title, that's an immediate improvement. And the original music it adds on top of that is pretty dang good too.
Standout Tracks- Title Theme
- Fire Man Stage
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Elec Man Stage- Wily Castle Stage
- Ending Theme
Top PickPassword
#1
Mega Man IV
Release Year: 1993 (GB)
Composer: Kouji MurataThe original music featured in IV is oddly foreboding and just a tad dark. It's got a real nice feel to it with the Gameboy's signature jagged flavor of 8-bit music and I love the work that went into the harmonies and voicing. This is easily the best of the Gameboy bunch and could rank up there alongside the other Classic titles too, honestly.
Standout Tracks- Title Theme
- Dr. Light's Lab 1 - Instructions
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Stage Select 1 (and 2, by extension, as it's just a key change)
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Final Stage - Wily Station-
Ending ThemeTop PickWily Battle
Featuring 9 titles (X - X8, Command Mission)
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#9
Mega Man X2
Release Year: 1994 (SNES)
Composer: Yuki IwaiX2 as a game is very good, on par with the first if not a smidge better. X2's soundtrack is...not so great. I wouldn't call it bad, but it feels empty, like it's missing a layer. The synths and guitars on display here are also notably whiny, which detracts from my overall enjoyment of the soundtrack. Not that bad melodically, though; I think this soundtrack would flourish if given a different soundfont.
Standout Tracks-
Opening Stage (RIP Green Biker Dude; gone, but not forgotten)
- Flame Stag Stage
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Overdrive Ostrich Stage- Bubble Crab Stage
- X-Hunter Stage 1
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EndingTop PickCrystal Snail Stage
#8
Mega Man X3
Release Year: 1995 (SNES), 1996 (PSX/Saturn)
Composer: Kinuyo TamashitaAhh, the classic X3 guitars. If you've heard any sort of "Mega Man X remix" of a piece, you've probably heard these harmonizing guitars throughout. I'm honestly not sure if they're the same soundfont as the guitars used in X2 but you'd instantly recognize them. Unfortunately, the quality of synths being used here kind of has the opposite problem that X2 has and makes a lot of the OST sound muddy, in a way, with a lot of growling frequencies in the background. X3 is notable for also being released on the PlayStation and Sega Saturn a few months later, July 1996, with a completely rearranged soundtrack featuring high-quality samples. It's certainly a unique take on the music, but the original SNES soundtrack is what I'm sticking to today, and even with the better instruments, the raw compositions of X3 just don't stand out that much.
Standout Tracks- Opening Stage
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Zero-
Blast Hornet Stage (I really love the background brass line that the PSX/Saturn version added, but the original is badass too.)
- Blizzard Buffalo Stage
- Neon Tiger Stage
- Doppler Stage 1
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Cast RollTop PickGravity Beetle Stage
#7
Mega Man X: Command Mission
Release Year: 2004 (PS2/GCN)
Composer: Shinya OkadaYou probably aren't familiar with this title; it was a turn-based RPG spinoff released on the GameCube and PS2 between the releases of X7 and X8, but set after X8, but before anyone knew anything about X8's plot. And also it's in an alternate timeline. Confusing, sure. It's got a pretty solid soundtrack, though! It doesn't do a lot melodically, but for setting a background to the areas you explore and the story beats, it does its job beyond admirably. The boss battle themes are all superb to boot.
Standout Tracks-
Theme of Mega Man X Command Mission- Standby - Zero
- Central Tower
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Thick Forest of Secret Treasures- Energy of the Unknown
- Ice River Secret Maneuvers
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Redips 1st Movement (And then the epicly scaled-up Redips 2nd Movement)
Top PickFinal Battle
Don't be fooled by the title, this is the standard boss battle theme.
#6
Mega Man X8
Release Year: 2004 (PS2), 2005 (PC)
Composers: Yuko Komiyama, Naoto TanakaMega Man X8's soundtrack asks you one question and one question alone:
DO U LIEK GUITARZ?!? If you like guitars, you will like this soundtrack. If you don't, uh...you've got slim pickin's here. Fortunately I happen to like guitars, and beyond that, the actual compositions behind them are stellar and blood-pumping. The one amazing exception to that is Gateway, the theme for the boss rematch stage: slow, acoustic guitar with a soft synth choir in the background. It's a sudden bit of breathing room between the frantic electronic slashing of the rest of the soundtrack.
Standout Tracks-
VS Maverick (It's the intro boss theme, and when it starts off this good you know it only gets better)
- Inferno ~ Descending
- Booster Forest ~ CYCLOPS Ride Armor
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Jakob (Okay, this basically shares the Top Pick spot with my actual Top Pick, so here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUeJr5-nswo)'s a link to a vid for this one.)
- Gateway
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VS Lumine ~ The Second Form- Intermission
Top PickVS Vile
#5
Mega Man X4
Release Year: 1997 (PSX/Saturn)
Composer: Toshihiko HoriyamaHere's Horiyama at his best. With the jump to PlayStation (and Saturn), X4 jumped hard into soaring, clean synths after the heavy SNES-crushed rock 'n roll of the first three X titles, and goddamn, it gives me the good chills. Deep, heavy drum hits, choir backings, harmony, layers and layers of goodness...and this is just the fifth best in my opinion. Honestly I think electric guitar is a big part of the X feel, so having a soundtrack lacking a lot of obvious electric guitar is probably what knocks this down a few pegs (though
having a lot of obvious electric guitar can also be...well, X8. Which is still good).
Standout Tracks-
Web Spider Stage- Cyber Peacock Stage
- Slash Beast Stage
- Boss
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Final Weapon Stage 2-
Iris- Staff Roll
Top PickOpening Stage X
#4
Mega Man X
Release Year: 1993 (SNES)
Composer: Setsuo YamamotoIt's the classic boi! The original Mega Man X defined the sound of the series, and the music it brought with it is some of the most recognizable in gaming history. The guitar is so clean and everything fits together just right and gaaaah. I love it. And it only gets better!
I'll also briefly mention that the remixed soundtrack from the PSP remake, Mega Man: Maverick Hunter X, is even more superb, but I'll just leave that there for now.
Standout Tracks-
Opening Stage- Chill Penguin Stage
- Flame Mammoth Stage
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Spark Mandrill Stage-
Storm Eagle Stage- Sigma Stage 2
- Staff Roll (Ya like jazz?)
Top PickArmored Armadillo Stage, because how the f*** could I not
#3
Mega Man X6
Release Year: 2001 (PSX)
Composer: Naoto TanakaSo, here come the real reasons I wanted to make this list. Well, the Zero and Battle Network sections are too, but these top three games are probably completely overlooked in terms of music because, well...they're all pretty bad games. X6 is pretty bad. The level design is all over the place, the enemy placement is
nightmarish Anyone? Anyone? and Blaze Heatnix's donuts of doom can screw right off, but the music? Amazing. Just amazing. After X4, the series adopted a more synth-rock style that brought back the guitars and X6 has some masterful compositions to complement that. I think it actually has the smallest soundtrack out of the X franchise, and this much quality packed in there is really freaking impressive.
Standout Tracks-
Opening Stage (The Western versions of the game featured an exclusive version of this track. The only difference? Two extra guitar licks thrown in that weren't there before. I don't know why this is a thing but those two guitar breaks just complete the song. Thanks, Capcom.)
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Commander Yammark Stage- Rainy Turtloid Stage
- Shield Sheldon Stage
- Blaze Heatnix Stage (DIE DONUTS DIE)
- Boss
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GateTop PickInfinity Mijinion Stage
This is my original composition, The Binal Bountdown. Do not steal.
#2
Mega Man X7
Release Year: 2003 (PS2)
Composers: Yuko Komiyama, Shinya Okada (feat. 6 other one- or two-off composers)X7 is a bad game. X7 is not fun. X7 is infamous for being one of the worst 2D to 3D conversion examples in video game history. And yet, somehow, some way, X7 manages to have one of the best soundtracks in series history, featuring 8 composers total, with 2 dominating the project and 6 others contributing 1 to 3 tracks each, most of whom either composed for an X game before or went on to compose in Command Mission or X8. (My favorite exception to this is Noriyuki Iwadare, who only contributed a single track to this game. You may recognize him as the arranger behind Brawl's remixes of Meta Knight's Revenge and With Mila's Divine Protection, as well as the composer for Ace Attorney: Trials & Tribulations.) X7 dives deep into the synth pool with a couple of guitars and emerges with a blend of rock, synth-pop, and electronica that's just a sound all its own. I have no idea how this turned out so well. It shouldn't have. But it did, and I'm glad it did.
Standout Tracks-
Underground ~ Vanishing Gungaroo Stage- Cyber Geometry ~ Snipe Anteator Stage
- Soul Asylum ~ Crimson Palace Stage 2 (I bring this one up not because it's all that amazing, but because...this is one of the most unexpectedly unsettling pieces of VGM I've heard. It's like River Twygz Bed had a baby with something from Silent Hill. And this is just for the boss rematch stage.)
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Our Blood Boils ~ Vs. Sigma 1st-
Stage Select 2- Revealing (This cutscene theme was later rearranged a little and used in Command Mission as an area theme, which is cool.)
- Fate ~ Theme of Sigma
Top PickConflict ~ Escape Stage
#1
Mega Man X5
Release Year: 2000 (PSX)
Composers: Naoya Kamisaka, Naoto Tanaka, Takuya MiyawakiAs the intended conclusion to the Mega Man X franchise, it seems only fitting that X5 has, in my opinion, the best soundtrack out of the series. The game itself is...questionable at times. Nowhere near as bad as X6 or X7, but certainly rough around the edges with RNG poking its nose where it shouldn't and some irritating difficulty spikes. But when I sit back and just listen to the music, it's like none of that exists. I love the synth rock throughout, I love the emotional weight this soundtrack manages to convey at times, I love the few little callbacks here and there to other classic melodies, and I love virtually every individual piece in the soundtrack. It's just a great, hype, amazing time.
Oh, and if you watch anything from the Hidden Block network on YouTube, their logo jingle is the stage clear theme from this game. Blew my mind the first time I heard it in-game.
Standout Tracks- Opening Stage Zero
- Volt Kraken Stage
- Shining Firefly Stage
- Dynamo
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X vs. Zero-
Sigma 2nd-
Ending (One of the most remorseful, painful, loss-filled themes in the entire Mega Man franchise. I get chills just from quickly passing over it in a playlist. It's powerful.)
Top PickZero Stage 1
Nothing quite compares to the emotional weight of this piece. Mystery, sorrow, wonder, and determination all wrapped up in a haunting, echoing soundscape that seems to have no boundaries. God damn, I love this piece.
Featuring 6 titles (Zero - Zero 4, ZX, ZX Advent)
I should note that every one of these soundtracks has a remastered CD version with better instruments, compression-free sound quality, and extended melodies, so if any of these soundtracks pique your interest in their compressed states, I highly recommend you check out the albums.
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#6
Mega Man Zero
Release Year: 2002 (GBA)
Composer: Ippo YamadaIn actuality, this section is less the Zero and ZX section and more the Ippo Yamada section. He's responsible for a majority of the tracks in all 6 games, starting with his solo outing here in the first game. I find his compositions have strong backing tracks and chord progressions, but his melodies tend to be lacking in comparison. You'll notice that as I go up the list, he has less and less free reign over the soundtrack, and I think that's no coincidence. As far as the first Zero game is concerned, that's really the best way I can describe it: a lot of strong backing tracks with not-so-wonderful melodies. Also, the instrumentation in this first game is pretty rough and I'm not a huge fan of the samples being used. But it lays a strong groundwork for the style of the music going forward in the series.
Standout Tracks-
The Ruins of Lab- Intermission
- Resistance
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Crash (The regular boss theme. This track was given a new remix for each subsequent game and used as the miniboss theme. It's neat to hear how it changes as the series goes on.)
- Neo Arcadia
- X, The Legend
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Area of ZEROTop PickEXPRESS UG
#5
Mega Man Zero 2
Release Year: 2003 (GBA)
Composers: Ippo Yamada, Luna Umegaki, Masaki SuzukiWhile certainly a step up from the preceding entry, Zero 2 suffers from many of the same problems as the original. The instrumentation quality is definitely an improvement, but it doesn't leave much of an impact and, again, feels like a series of good chord progressions and backings without good melodies to tie them together. It does manage to distinguish itself tonally from the first in spite of this, and in a good way.
Standout Tracks- Departure
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Ice Brain-
Sand Triangle- Power Bom (no, I did not misspell that)
- Combustion
- Passionate
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Supreme RulerTop PickSilver Wolf -Yggdrasil-
#4
Mega Man ZX Advent
Release Year: 2007 (NDS)
Composers: Ippo Yamada, Ryo Kawakami, Masaki SuzukiWe interrupt the Zero series to bring you its undersold Metroidvania cousin! The thing these two games have in common musically is wonderful DS sound quality combined with a reliably hit-and-miss lineup of tunes. It was quite difficult to place either of these games because the sum total of their tracks is, honestly...just okay. The highs are ohhhhh so good, but the lows are disappointing. In the end I found that ZX Advent missed more often than it hit, and didn't hit as well as its prequel, so I put it first. Er, fourth. But when it
does hit, oh man.
Standout Tracks- Destiny
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Slam Down-
Twisted Vine- Bullet Drive
- Overloaded
- Determined Eyes
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Path to the TruthTop PickSoul Ablaze
#3
Mega Man ZX
Release Year: 2006 (NDS)
Composers: Ippo Yamada, Ryo Kawakami, Masaki SuzukiAnd of course, ZX immediately follows, because the sum of its parts is also just okay, putting the ZX duology smack dab in the middle of this section. I don't really have much to say that I didn't already, other than don't let my "okayness" rating of these soundtracks dissuade you; that's just on the whole. The individual
good tracks are fan-freaking-tastic, perhaps even better than some of what comes later, and I highly recommend that you give them a listen.
Standout Tracks-
Green Grass Gradation- Industrialism
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Trap Factory (A f***ing badass boss theme for a recurring pair of minibosses; this had a remix in ZXA which I didn't list there because I knew I had to list the original here.)
- High-press Energy
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Gauntlet- Snake Eyes
- Dream Weaver
Top PickSky High - Grand Nuage -
This pick surprised me as well; in a mix of wonderful stage and boss themes, a character/group theme gave me the most hype. I just love the soaring, triumphant tone that this piece exudes.
#2
Mega Man Zero 3
Release Year: 2004 (GBA)
Composers: Ippo Yamada, Masaki SuzukiZero 3 defies my generalization that Yamada's only good at backings and intros, because he did 90% of the soundtrack himself, and it's actually really good. There's still some stuff in here that strikes the ehhhh chord inside me, but Zero 3 is responsible for some of the best-loved themes in the series and it isn't hard to see why. It's kinda like an improved version of the ZX soundtracks: really good highs, with merely some negligible lows.
Standout Tracks- Prismatic
- Volcano
- Old Life Space
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Sand Triangle II-
Hell's Gate Open- Return to Zero
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I, 0 - Your FellowTop PickCannon Ball
THE de-facto Mega Man 1v1 final boss theme. An even more epic remix was used in ZX for the tough-as-nails secret boss.
#1
Mega Man Zero 4
Release Year: 2005 (GBA)
Composers: Ippo Yamada, Masaki Suzuki, Luna UmegakiStory time, kids! When I was much younger, maybe 8 or 9, long before I'd call myself a Mega Man fan, I had a copy of Zero 4 for the GBA, and I loved it to pieces. I loved the boss design, I loved the customization options, I loved the gameplay, and maybe just a bit above everything else, I adored the music. Fast-forward several years later, and imagine the nostalgia bomb when I'm looking through the Mega Man wiki and stumble across Zero 4. I nearly lost my mind. I didn't even associate Mega Man with the blonde red guy I had played as years ago (I believe I even thought he was a girl?), and when I went to browse the music, holy shit. Needless to say, I might be a
tad bit biased when it comes to positioning this game, but stepping back from my childhood memories, I still think this soundtrack is head-and-shoulders above the competition within the series. The guitar is grungier than ever, the melodies are on point, and the tone is apocalyptic, desperate, and truly emotional. I seriously hope it's not nostalgia goggles blinding me; I honestly think it's that good.
Standout Tracks- The entire soundtrack- Caravan - Hope for Freedom -
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Holy Land- Queen of the Hurt (Blueflower999 once said this is probably the most badass theme for a female character ever, and I'm inclined to agree.)
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Straight Ahead (One of the best final stage themes in the entire franchise.)
- Nothing Beats (This and Crash from Zero 1 are honestly the only good regular boss themes in the Zero series.)
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Falling Down- Promise - Next New World -
Top PickEsperanto
This is Part 2 because I wrote so much! Part 1 is above!Mega Man Battle Network/Star ForceFeaturing 10 titles (Battle Network - Battle Network 6, Network Transmission, Star Force - Star Force 3)
Full disclosure: of these 10 titles, I have only played/become familiar with 4 of them, and I'd only count 3 of those as fairly recent. My rankings here are pretty much solely based on the music itself, which could potentially be a hindrance since a lot of VGM gains more meaning when paired with the situation in which it is played. Take these with a grain of salt, and be aware that these games are pretty similar in the music department...with one glaring exception (you'll see).
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#10
Mega Man Star Force 2: Zerker X Saurian/Zerker X Ninja
Release Year: 2007 (NDS)
Composers: Yoshino Aoki, Marika SuzukiThe Battle Network/Star Force section of this list is similar to the Zero/ZX section in that you'll be seeing a lot of one specific composer, and that the one specific composer tends to make the soundtrack worse when working independently. Such is the case with Yoshino Aoki's work in the franchise. Where Ippo Yamada can make good backings but isn't the greatest at coming up with melodies, Aoki creates complex chord progressions and then writes melodies that either clash with them entirely or meander aimlessly without establishing a core identity. They also tend to be short. This is probably the best example of melodies clashing with chords. Most of the soundtrack is actively hard to listen to at times without either being annoyed or being disinterested. There's a few diamonds in the rough, but it's not worth poring through the whole soundtrack to find them.
Standout Tracks- Home Town
- Loch Mess
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Sky Wave-
Melody of Isolation- Atmosphere of Unrest
- Sentimental
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Road to VictoryTop PickWave Battle
This is actually one of my favorite boss themes in the entire Mega Man franchise, and it bugs me that it comes from one of the most flawed soundtracks. If only it could all be this good.
#9
Mega Man Battle Network 2
Release Year: 2001 (GBA)
Composer: Yoshino AokiThis is probably the best example of Aoki's tendency towards short compositions. The soundtrack to Battle Network 2 is serviceable, but ultimately it doesn't stick around for long and make much of a statement with the time it has. That being said, this soundtrack also has five or six tracks that are really phenomenal, and even though I'm not a big fan of Aoki's work, it does surprise me how she always manages to have a few really really good tracks, and I wonder why there's such a big disparity between the quality of her good compositions and everything else.
Standout Tracks- At Okuden
- Busy Street of a Foreign Country
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Alley- Determination in the Heart
- Smoky Field
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Internet World-
Vs. GospelTop PickBattle Spirit
#8
Mega Man Star Force 3: Black Ace/Red Joker
Release Year: 2008 (NDS)
Composers: Yoshino Aoki, Akari KaidaStar Force 3 is somehow similar to Mega Man 3 in my brain (and not because they're both #3), in that I think highly of their soundtracks until I actually go listen, at which point I am confusedly underwhelmed. With Kaida's assistance, SF3 has a lot of really strong tracks to go off of, but after listening through everything again, I just wasn't blown away like I was expecting to be. I guess a lot of the overall good feel comes from the standout tracks in the soundtrack, which are absolutely amazing. It's just not the whole thing.
Standout Tracks- Shooting Star (Ver. SF3)
- The Radio World
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Wave Station- Diamond Ice Stage
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Club Strong Stage- Wave Battle
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Black Hole ServerTop PickStaff Roll
Yup, it's the credits theme. It's a little hard to explain why I love this piece so much, but I love it to bits.
#7
Mega Man Star Force: Leo/Pegasus/Dragon
Release Year: 2006 (NDS)
Composer: Yoshino Aoki (feat. Mitsuhiko Takano)Instrumentation can make or break a soundtrack. The first Star Force title suffers a little from the new sound direction taken with the jump to the DS, in that a number of the new synths are either suffering from clipping, or are...wobbly, for lack of a better term. It improves with time, and I honestly think this outing is better than the two that came after it on composition alone, but the instrumentation keeps it from being truly great.
Standout Tracks-
Shooting Star (If the SF soundtracks did anything right, it's the soaring, triumphant melody that serves as the main theme of the franchise. It perfectly captures the feeling of heroism. Heck, it was put into Smash Ultimate without any changes made to it!)
- Science
- ROCKET SHOOTER
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Now Study! (This is definitely one of my favorite stage themes in the whole Mega Man franchise. It's also one of only two tracks in the soundtrack that Mitsuhiko Takano worked on, and it shows.)
- Final Battleground
- Wave Battle
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The Place You Must ReturnTop PickAgonizing Wish
Geo Stelar is unique among Mega Man protagonists in that he doesn't rush bravely into danger out of an inherent sense of justice. His dad is presumed dead in space, he's afraid of making friends to the point of staying in his room every day of his life, and the only reason he becomes a super fighting robot is that a renegade criminal alien basically forces him to defend himself against the other aliens that are after him. Through the games, he learns how to trust others and form bonds, giving him a dynamic arc completely absent from other Mega Men. I bring all this up because Agonizing Wish is the theme of Geo watching the stars, missing his dad, and I'm happy this level of emotional intensity is present in a franchise that treads lightly in the dynamic protagonist department.
#6
Mega Man Battle Network 4: Red Sun/Blue Moon
Release Year: 2003 (GBA)
Composer: Toshihiko HoriyamaBattle Network 4 holds a special place in my heart, being the BN game I played the most and the latest into my childhood, but I've known for a while that the soundtrack really isn't the greatest. It's got some catchy melodies and some great ideas, but it lacks some sort of depth, making it sound empty and half-finished. It also has some of the wobbliness present in SF1, which drags it down a little further. I really wish this soundtrack had been done with just a slightly different soundfont; I think it would have improved the final product immensely.
It also might've helped if the aggravating Incident Occurrence theme didn't play endlessly once you reached the endgame/postgame. I GET IT, THERE'S A METEOR COMING, CAN'T I LISTEN TO MY OVERWORLD THEMES AGAIN??
Standout Tracks-
Electric Town- Invisible Wing
- Cyber Battle
- Battle Pressure
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Global Network- Journey of Determination
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Save Our PlanetTop PickVS. Duo
#5
Mega Man Battle Network 3: White/Blue
Release Year: 2002 (GBA)
Composer: Yoshino AokiDespite Aoki being at the helm, here's where things really start to get good. To my knowledge, 3 is generally regarded as one of the best in the series, and thankfully the soundtrack complements that. Featuring battle themes that are all spectacular, catchy area themes, and an Incident Occurrence theme that doesn't make me want to kill myself, it's really just the mediocre stage themes that hold this back. At least Aoki made a few finished products that were more than okay.
Standout Tracks- Home Town (Every game does the theme of ACDC town a little differently. 3 went for a calypso vibe, and it really works.)
- Sea Breeze Town
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N1 Grand Prix!- Network is Spreading
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Shine in the Dark-
Shooting Enemy- Navi Customizer
Top PickBoss Battle!
Ohhhhohoho, man, this theme kicks SO much ass.
#4
Mega Man Battle Network 5: Team ProtoMan/Team Colonel
Release Year: 2004 (GBA)
Composer: Akari KaidaBattle Network 5 is pretty dark, and the music appropriately has a bit of an edge to it. Not really in a gritty, grungy sense, but the music in serious situations tends to favor unresolved or complex chords that really make it feel like something's not quite right in the best of ways. A fantastic example of this is in the recurring Hometown theme: while previous games put the piece in a major key, with the melody starting on the tonic and resolving with the chords, BN5 places the piece in E minor while starting the melody on a D. In fact, it barely uses the D Major chord that you expect it to resolve to based on the sound of the other games. I love reharmonization like this, and the soundtrack has lots of instances of unresolved and complex chord progressions that hammer the point home. Also, it's just damn well composed.
Standout Tracks- Hometown (for reasons mentioned above)
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Seek a Cord- Battle Start!
- Quest in the Water
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Depth- VS. Nebula Gray
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Chain of WishTop PickLiberate Mission
#3
Mega Man Battle Network
Release Year: 2001 (GBA)
Composer: Akari KaidaAkari Kaida really did a fantastic job at establishing the musical sound of the Battle Network games right from the start, as well as giving it some really good tunes to match the sound. Emphasizing the natively-generated square waves just as much as the sampled synths provided through the GBA's improved sound capabilities gave Battle Network that electronic early-2000's cyber-crazy vibe that "Mega Man on the Internet" would just be incomplete without. The selection of tracks here isn't huge, actually the smallest in the series, but virtually
heh everything here is of the utmost quality.
Standout Tracks- Home Town
- School
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Fire Field-
Running Through the Cyber World-
Boundless Network- Cold & Silent
- Red or Blue
Top PickOperation!
#2
Mega Man Battle Network 6: Cybeast Gregar/Cybeast Falzar
Release Year: 2005 (GBA)
Composer: Yoshino AokiSo, remember how I said that instrumentation can make or break a soundtrack? It's especially important here, because somehow Yoshino Aoki managed to create what sounds to me like the best soundtrack in the Battle Network series, and it's got a whole lot to do with the incredibly bassy, gritty samples plugged straight into this baby. It takes the cyberpunk chiptune I've come to love and infuses it with hints of electric guitar and sawtoothed waveforms. You can really feel the depth this soundtrack has above its predecessors. And on top of that, the compositions on display here are still fantastic, which is more than I've been able to say about Aoki's work up until this point. I say it's more than appropriate that the final installment of the Battle Network series has the most blood-pumping, intense, and overall best soundtrack of the whole main series.
Wait, isn't there still another spot left...?Standout Tracks- Theme of Mega Man Battle Network 6
- Central Town
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Aquarium Question- Battle Field
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Tree of Judgement- Navi Customizer
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Two of BravesTop PickSurge of Power!
#1
Mega Man Network Transmission
Release Year: 2003 (GCN)
Composers: Shinji Hosoe, Yousuke Yasui, Ayako SasoSo, remember how I said that these games are pretty similar in the music department, with one glaring exception? Well, here's the glaring exception. Honestly it's really not fair to throw this one in with the other titles because it's just a billion times better than the others in the series, but hey, that makes it a fun surprise! I wouldn't be exaggerating if I said I saved the best for last. For this whole list, I mean. Network Transmission was a 2D platformer spinoff for the Gamecube with some...really ugly graphics, actually. And lots of subtitled Japanese voice acting. But the music?
Holy f***. If you've never heard anything from this before (and chances are you haven't), you're in for a treat. Take everything great about the synths in the PSX Mega Man X titles and the chiptune/cybernetic sampling and mixing of the Battle Network franchise, throw it in a blender with some CD-level sound quality, and BAM, one of the best soundtracks in Mega Man history. There's just so much depth, nuance, complexity, and layering to this soundtrack, I don't even know where to begin. If there's any soundtrack in this entire endeavor I would actively encourage you to listen to from beginning to end, it's this one. It's just so, so, so unexpectedly good. And it also gets Dudeman brownie points for throwing in some references to Classic stage themes, which is always great.
Standout TracksI really couldn't limit this one to seven, guys, I just couldn't. Since it's the end of this whole big mistake of a list, I'm gonna splurge and list all of my favorites. It's not the whole soundtrack, I swear.
- Relaxation
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Internet Area - Basic Stage-
Blazing Internet - FireMan Stage- Water Service Bureau - IceMan Stage
- Game Center - ColorMan Stage
- Old Generation Area - SwordMan Stage (This one is suuuuuper quirky and a little discordant-sounding towards the beginning, but
those drums, man)
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Abnormal Gravity Area - GravityMan Stage-
Zero Gravity Area - StarMan Stage-
Navi Battle-
Demolished WWW Area - ShadowMan Stage- The Undernet - Final Stage
- Firewall Battle
- Epilogue - Zero Reforms
Top PickVS. Zero
Welp, that's about the size of it. If anyone actually took the time to just read through this, let alone listen to any of the tracks or set aside a soundtrack to listen to later, really truly, thank you so much. And even more so if you've never been interested in Mega Man or are only familiar with Wily Stage 1 from MM2 like everyone else in the world. I've had a weird passion to make some sort of ranking of all the Mega Man soundtracks I've heard for a while now so it felt really good to get this all out there and try to put into writing how I feel about each and every game's musical selection. I'm sure this will get buried before long, but I hope someone finds something interesting in here. And hey, if you disagree about something, I'd love to hear it, and if there's a spinoff I missed that has a fantastic soundtrack, let me know; I'd love to add it to my lineup of tracks. Also if anyone can direct me to a good, complete soundtrack for both Legends games, that would be awesome. The bits I've heard here and there seem to be pretty okay.
I guess that's all, then.
It's really cool to see your enthusiasm for the series. I don't particularly like the games myelf but they really do have some sweet music especially 1&2 imo
BIONICLE Canister Waves:
Fantastic:
Bohrok (2002)
Bohrok are on top of this list for three reasons:
1. They look awesome and have fantastic color schemes.
2. They have to amazing action features: extending their necks and bouncing back, and curling into a ball.
3. Krana are easily one of the best LEGO collectibles ever.
That is all.
Phantoka (2008)
The first wave to be mixed heroes and villains, containing the Toa Phantoka and the Makuta Phantoka, both are extremely excellent. I think the new adaption of the Toa Nuva is great, it really captures their personalities while giving them new life. The Midak Skyblaster is probably the best blaster of the entire series.
Bohrok-Kal (2003)
Basically the Bohrok except with different color schemes. I generally prefer the colors of the original Bohrok better.
Toa Nuva (2002)
Basically the Toa Mata but slightly better! Some of the mask designs aren't as simple and streamlined as the original Toa Mata, but overall, I like their weapons and their armor better.
Toa Mata (2001)
The classic Toa will always have a place in my heart. Although lacking in the articulation of later waves, their gear function is pretty solid. Great design overall, especially with their masks and weapons. They're just very stand-out figures and it's clear why they were successful after a couple failed attempts at constraction themes. The random "two-fingered hand" on some of them never made sense to me, but hey, it works.
Toa Mahri (2007)
Despite having the absolute worst packaging, they're extremely great in terms of design for Toa. They're the first line of Toa to not be essentially clones of each other. The Cordak blaster is a great one, and usually works very well, although it's a bit on the heavy side, which really affects certain of them, especially Kongu. Also affected by the curse of the lime green joints.
Glatorian (2009)
Very solid line of figures. Good variety with their designs and a lot of great new pieces. As much as people dislike this year because it was something drastically new in terms of story, I remember being incredibly hyped by it—and not disappointed upon release.
Barraki (2007)
The first villain wave to not be essentially clones of each other; each Barraki has a unique design. They're some pretty fantastic designs too, very representative of the animals they're trying to emulate. Only downside would be weaker joints of this year and onward, especially lime green ones (RIP Ehlek).
Great:
Mistika (2008)
All right, people love to hate on the Toa Mistika, but the only one that's a bit lackluster is Gali, and that's mostly because of her weapons (or lack thereof of distinct non-blaster weapon) and mask. Tahu and Onua look pretty cool. The Makuta Mistika are awesome too, especially Gorast and Krika (ESPECIALLY Gorast). However, I wouldn't put the Nynrah Ghostblasters as my favorite launcher.
Glatorian Legends (2009)
A pretty solid line of figures, although somewhat lacking in variety compared to the original Glatorians. The first actual depiction of Mata Nui, and I think it's pretty worth the wait.
Toa Metru (2004)
The next step of evolution in gear functions. A lot more contained and streamlined than the previous line of Toa. They have great weapons that they can either store on their back or find a dual usage for. The worst part of them is that their arms stick out a bit awkwardly.
Rahkshi (2003)
Finally, we have knees! The Rahkshi have a pretty cool collectible in the Kraata (admittedly not as cool as the Krana), and have nice parts (especially the weapons). Their gear function is decent as well.
Good:
Piraka (2006)
The Piraka are pretty cool. The first users of the Inika build. They differentiate themselves with their rubbery spines, glow-in-the-dark skulls, and light-up eyes. Also I'm pretty sure this is the only wave where my brother and I have the same set (Avak).
Toa Inika (2006)
The namesakes of the "infamous" Inika build (although the Inika were technically first) and probably the worst users of it (IMO, I feel like the Inika build allows for more versatility). They're the last of the canister sets to be clones (I don't count Onua and Pohatu as not being clones). Their weapons are pretty cool, but the rubber masks are definitely a step down from standard masks (although most of them still look pretty decent), and the rest of them are pretty bland. Also an example of the first "brown" BIONICLE not to be, well, brown, instead being yellow or orange.
Toa Hordika (2005)
Although the Toa Hordika have a lot of cool parts (especially their legs and torsos, which are somewhat more reusable than either of the Toa torsos before them) and weapons, and they definitely look like they're supposed to be monster Toa, I still can't get over their asymmetry. Their gear function is kind of lame too. Also the first hero wave to have a unique made-for-BIONICLE launcher. Their ripcord kind of sticks out awkwardly though.
Visorak (2005)
The Visorak are kind of cool, and definitely unique, and have a lot of nice features, but I feel like their rebuildability is kind of limited because their main body is just a giant plastic piece. Also the first villain wave to have a unique made-for-BIONICLE launcher.
Vahki (2004)
The first wave to have a standardized launcher between all of them. Technically speaking, I own all of the Vahki, since I own 8715 "BIONICLE Exclusive Accessories" which can be used to build 5 Vahki (all except the green one), and I own the green Vahki as set. I remember my brother and I were confused at first which Vahki was the red and which was the green (since those are the two we got), because both of them use red and green in their color scheme. :P The Vahki aren't bad, they just aren't great.
Mediocre:
Stars (2010)
Yeah, this is no surprise. They're not horrible, but being the last wave of BIONICLE makes them an extreme disappointment. If they had simply been a collector's wave to represent a "best of" the theme, I don't think anybody would have hated them, but considering that they're all based on the Av-Matoran build, they are still lacking compared to other canister waves.
I'll edit in the rest later.
Pokemon Games:
1. Pokemon Emerald
2. Pokemon Alpha Sapphire/Omega Ruby
3. Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire
4. Pokemon Platinum
5. Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness
6. Pokemon Sun/Moon
7. Pokemon Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon
8. Pokemon Diamond/Pokemon Pearl
9. Pokemon Sword/Shield
10. Pokemon Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee
11. Pokemon Colosseum
12. Pokemon X/Y
13. Pokemon Yellow
14. Pokemon Red/Blue
15. Pokemon Gold/Silver
The first song of an album makes quite an impression of the rest of the album. Thus, I'm deciding to rank all the first songs of every David Bowie studio album, because why not. It'd be interesting to see how this compares to my David Bowie album ranking. Of note, I like most of these except maybe the last four.
Blackstar - Blackstar (2016)
Space Oddity - David Bowie (1969)
Five Years - The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars (1972)
Loving the Alien - Tonight (1984)
Young Americans - Young Americans (1975)
Fantastic Voyage - Lodger (1979)
Modern Love - Let's Dance (1983)
Sunday - Heathen (2002)
Changes - Hunky Dory (1971)
Future Legend + Diamond Dogs - Diamond Dogs (1974)*
Station to Station - Station to Station (1976)
Watch That Man - Aladdin Sane (1973)
Beauty and the Beast - "Heroes" (1977)
Speed of Life - Low (1977)
New Killer Star - Reality (2003)
It's No Game (Pt. 1) - Scary Monsters (and Super Creeps) (1980)
Little Wonder - Earthling (1997)
The Next Day - The Next Day (2013)
Day-In Day-Out - Never Let Me Down (1987)**
Thursday's Child - Hours (1999)
Leon Takes Us Outside + Outside - Outside (1995)***
Rosalyn - Pin Ups (1973)
The Width of a Circle - The Man Who Sold the World (1970)
The Wedding - Black Tie White Noise (1993)
Uncle Arthur - David Bowie (1967)
*Yes, I'm counting them as one song.
**Only if you count the 2018 version.
***Also counting them as one song for similar reasons.
Rocky Horror Picture Show song rankings! Some songs are grouped together because of their similarities and such. I'd say top 4 and bottom 2 are pretty solid in their places.
1. "Hot Patootie – Bless My Soul"
2. "Science Fiction/Double Feature" + Reprise
3. "The Sword of Damocles"
4. "The Time Warp" + Reprise
5. "Touch-a, Touch-a, Touch-a, Touch Me"
6. "Dammit Janet"
7. "Rose Tint My World" ("Floor Show" + "Fanfare/Don't Dream It" + "Wild and Untamed Thing")
8. "I Can Make You a Man" + Reprise
9. "I'm Going Home"
10. "Sweet Transvestite"
11. "Planet Schmanet Janet" + "Planet Hot Dog"
12. "Eddie"
13. "There's a Light (Over at the Frankenstein Place)"
I've updated my Pixar Rankings (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/index.php?topic=9540.msg400783#msg400783) with Soul and Luca, and also moved Onward and Incredibles 2 around a bit.
Having recently played Monster Sanctuary to 100% completion, it's time to rank ALL 111 MONSTERS :o :o :o
Spoilers because otherwise this post would be MASSIVE
S TIER ---Spoiler
Elderjel
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Elderjel
Metroid Jellyfish!!! This is probably my favorite monster that I never used :(
Terradrile
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Terradrile
One of the final monsters I added to my team, and one of the Champion monsters of the DLC. It proved to be a valuable addition to both my "main" Shock team (replacing Kame) and my "cheese" team (alongside Rampede and Krakaturtle). It is crazy good at a variety of roles, including shielding, buffing, and debuffing.
Rampede
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Rampede
I was in love as soon as I saw it. Quickly became part of my final lineup because it is an absolutely INSANE damage dealer that can deal major damage directly and secondary damage with Bleed.
My biggest issues with it are that it struggles with mana (absolutely requires Channel support) and sometimes lacks bulk (which, as your main damage dealer, can become a bit of an issue sometimes).
Even though I much prefer its main color to its dark shift color, its dark shift color is alright enough and goes a long way to making it a superb Bleed damage dealer.
it's like rampardos if rampardos was as deadly as it looked
Spectral Eagle
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Spectral_Eagle
My starter, so I definitely developed a soft spot for it :D Its design is simple but effective—it's a phoenix that's also a thunderbird!!! Bonus points because post its shift colors look pretty cool.
In terms of viability, it starts off pretty strong, sort of falls off in the midgame, then gets REALLY strong toward the late game. Glad I stuck with it!
Dracozul
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Dracozul
Probably my favorite of the Draconov evolutions :D Looks like a very classical dragon/wyvern and it's definitely for the better.
Kame
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Kame
It's like Blastoise + Sandslash :o :o :o
Negative points because the dark shift colors are like 10x better than the light shift colors even though the light shift is a lot more useful. All in all, it was a valuable addition to my main team for such a long time too.
Rocky
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Rocky
I love this lil' guy (best rock <3) :') For so much of the game he was simultaneously my best tank and best damage dealer. With the right team setup (aim for Charge/Age/Shields; I've heard it pairs well with its evolution) it's honestly still a pretty solid monster, but by the time the endgame and postgame stuff rolled around it ended up not working with my team synergies.
Light shift colors are great, but dark shift colors are... ehhhhh.
Mad Eye
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Mad_Eye
Another one I used on my team for a long while. It's a pretty solid damage dealer (I used it as single-target) and great debuff spreader as well. Very cool design and both shift colors look great.
Krakaturtle
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Krakaturtle
Flying volcano turtle!!! :o Although I LOVE the regular colors, I ended up going with light shift (which also has nice colors) as a way to help combat against debuff teams. Was part of my final team—I brought it on to help against some of the Legendary Keepers.
Promethean
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Promethean
A late addition to my team, but a valuable one nonetheless. Upon the suggestion of someone on Reddit, I went for a light shifted buffing build to spread Shock and help my Spectral Eagle reach crazy high numbers (and it did!).
Tar Blob
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Tar_Blob
Technically part of the blob family, but with a much more menacing guise. Annoying AF to fight against, but a solid potential team member.
Spoiler
Beetloid
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Beetloid
I never ended up using this on my team (mostly because it's a champion monster and I got the egg pretty late), but if I had realized it was so good on shock teams I probably would've ended up using it!!! After level 30 it gets the ability to help shock teams remove debuffs which would be incredibly helpful. If I ever end up trying a newgame+ run, I might try to use this.
One downside is that the light shift colors are kinda ehh even though it's the more useful shift.
Mega Rock
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Mega_Rock
Not as awesome as Rocky, and imo comes a bit too late in the story, but still best rock <3
Both shift colors look great, but I think dark shift takes a slight edge in this case.
Crackle Knight
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Crackle_Knight
It's a lil' lightning knight :o :o :o Never got the chance to use it on my team, but the concept is super cool!!! Both shift colors are cool, but especially the light shift (golden knight!!!).
Sizzle Knight
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Sizzle_Knight
Another lil' knight guy! This one is more of a proper crusader. Slightly less cute and charming than its pre-evolution, while upping the coolness factor. Once again, both shift colors look great, but this time I think I slightly favor the dark shift.
also apparently people are saying this is one of the worst monsters in the game
Mad Lord
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Mad_Lord
The evolution of Mad Eye and the final boss of the main story. Tends to take a more physical approach than Mad Eye, but also has a magic build at its disposal too.
Oculus
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Oculus
Reminds me of the drones from Axiom Verge, in a good way.
Monk
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Monk
he punch
Another monster I used early by ended up dropping late into the playthrough because I had grown so attached to it. It starts out as a pretty powerful, versatile attacker, and later on as you have more skill points at your disposal, it can become a pretty solid healer (and honestly it sort of ended up being more of a damage cleric for me than leaning toward one or the other role). Its biggest downside is that it just lacks much bulk whatsoever by the time the later portions of the game roll around.
Both shift colors are pretty nice, but I think the light shift colors take the edge here.
Ascendant
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Ascendant
Monk's evolution and another one of the endgame bosses you're liable to encounter first (I beat it on my first try lol).
Sort of like Mad Eye to Mad Lord, it also takes a more Magic-centric approach compared to Monk's physical barrage.
Fungi
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Fungi
A fun guy :> Used one on my team for a while; pretty fun and its poison stall is really helpful early on even if you don't specifically build around it. Probably could've kept going with it had I wanted to, but in the end I decided to run with a team centered around my Spectral Eagle.
Blob
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Blob
Friend shaped :3 In terms of how good it is in the game, it starts out pretty decent, drops off a bit, gets pretty good again once you hit like level ~30-ish, then sorta drops off again by the time you hit endgame and have so many other options. Shame because Blob is life.
Lava Blob
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Lava_Blob
like blob but warm to the touch :3 great for winter
Ice Blob
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Ice_Blob
like blob but cold to the touch :3 great for summer
King Blob
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/King_Blob
King Blob, the king of all the Blobs. You can tell by his crown and scepter!
Rainbow Blob
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Rainbow_Blob
like blob but rainbow to the touch :3
By this point, you may be wondering why I'm more favorable to the blob family than to the goblin family. Well, to me it feels like the blobs earn their variations a lot more—plus, they're more spread out throughout the game rather than being concentrated in a few areas.
Imori
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Imori
stabfrog is pretty coll
Yet another one I unfortunately wasn't able to add on my team.
Ornithopter
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Ornithopter
A cool, weird little dude
Both shift colors are cool, especially the light shift.
Glowfly
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Glowfly
v cute, hard to hate <3
Glowdra
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Glowdra
Very solid evolution; IMO, the design stands on equal terms with its pre-evolution.
Asura
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Asura
Punchy dude :D Great intimidating vibe, which is great for the part of the game it appears in.
Both shift colors look incredible, which is a relative rarity.
Minitaur
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Minitaur
I love me a good minotaur :D Shame it's not better, as I definitely would've tried to fit it on my team. The light shift colors are especially cool with its golden axe and all.
Megataur
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Megataur
No axe = not quite as cool, but still a good design.
Fumagus
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Fumagus
Fungi's evolution brought with the free DLC. I like the concept, but personally I'm more of a Fungi fan.
Specter
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Specter
I love me a good skeleton, especially a flaming skeleton. If I had known it would've had such good synergy with Mad Eye, I probably would've tried to fit one on my team, but by the time I finally got its egg I was already attached to most of my team. Both shift colors are also pretty cool.
Toxiquus
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Toxiquus
Never got the chance to use it on me team, but poison seahorse is pretty cool :D
Qilin
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Qilin
I think this was the first ride mount I unlocked. Shiny unicorn is pretty neat, and both shift colors look great in their own way :D
Finally, to quote someone from Reddit, "What makes it unique to me is that 5 of the damn things in 1 team are the hardest thing I've faced in the whole game lol"
Troll
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Troll
Most games that feature trolls go for "hehehe funny troll" but this is a genuinely scary creature :D
Ucan
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Ucan
Can you get a crab in this game? Yes, Ucan.
Nautilid
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Nautilid
Very nice octopus/squid design. Never got the chance to use it, since it shows up at a point where your team is probably already (mostly) settled.
Dracogran
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Dracogran
Draconov's first evolution. Kinda reminds me of Thousand Dragon from Yugioh, and I like that :D
Dracomer
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Dracomer
Draconov's final evolution, introduced in the DLC. Sorta reminds me of Raiju from Pacific Rim.
Brutus
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Brutus
Punchram!!! :D I sorta slept on him until I needed him to 5 star Vertraag—but fortunately, he was very effective for that task.
Frosty
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Frosty
If you told me this was an ice creature based solely on appearance, I would not believe you :P Definitely feels more like an electric or fire monster. Both shift colors are nice, especially the light shift.
Nightwing
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Nightwing
he bite
It's a cute bat! What could you dislike? Both shift colors are also really nice.
Aazerach
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Aazerach
Edgelord: The Design :P I kid though; it is definitely a cool design.
Kinda annoying to fight against in Keeper battles though, since it loves applying Blind.
Moccus
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Moccus
Zombie pig! The sprite looks even better in motion, imo
Amberlgna
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Amberlgna
Now the mosquito IS the amber :o :o :o
Worm
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Worm
GROOVY! It's a worm with a bazooka—and apparently a very memey monster that has an infamous "you deal MEGA damage if you actually manage to hit" build.
I just appreciate the Earthworm Jim reference :P
Spectral Wolf
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Spectral_Wolf
Probably my second favorite of the Spectral Familiars, and probably the one I would've picked if not for the sheer COOLNESS of Spectral Eagle. Both its shift colors also look pretty color, but especially the Light shift. Also the "canon" Spectral Familiar.
Vodinoy
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Vodinoy
One of the first of the game's "superbosses" you're liable to encounter. It may just be an ugly fishman with a spear, but it's a solid design nonetheless.
Vertraag
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Vertraag
The avatar of the god of time and apparently a cameo from a different game series :P Pretty solid design, and its dark shift colors look exceptional as well.
Diavola
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Diavola
If you see this in a Keeper battle, you know it's gonna be annoying AF and you should probably target it first. Definitely a good take on the Venus Flytrap design though.
Yowie
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Yowie
Yowie was one I wanted to add to my team early but never really found a place for it—until I needed one for my cheese team. The yeti design is pretty cool, and the light shift colors are really good as well. Dark shift colors are ehh.
Koi
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Koi
basically just a koi fish but DANG if it isn't charming
Especially because its minor yet important role in the story #ripkoi
Spoiler
Rathops
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Rathops
A bit too much of a garish design for my tastes, but I still like it.
Gryphonix
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Gryphonix
What you get when you combine Spectral Eagle and Spectral Lion and get something solidly in the middle of the two.
I love using it as a mount since it makes traversal so easy, but the design is a bit too messy, imo.
Changeling
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Changeling
The game's third mimc-of-sorta :P This one has Ditto flavor to it! And it allows you to change into a Morph Ball!!!
Draconoir
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Draconoir
The third of Draconov's evolution. It's nice, but I don't have any special attachment to it.
Thanatos
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Thanatos
This would probably make it up to the bottom of A tier if not for the clown nose on it.
Mimic
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Mimic
Classic mimic, Monster Sanctuary edition!!!
Salahammer
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Salahammer
Major points for a very unique design. Definitely looks intimidating too.
Kanko
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Kanko
a.k.a. Pipeferret
I wish the pipe actually showed up in the sprite, but pretty fun design nonetheless.
Spinner
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Spinner
A mimic of a different variety, this one mimic YOU :o :o :o
The light shift colors kinda look like a scarecrow, and the dark shift kinda looks like a Heartless. :P
Draconov
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Draconov
Draconov is sorta like Monster Sanctuary's version of Eevee, in that it has FOUR different evolutions. As a base design it's pretty nice, even though I don't think it's not amazing enough to where you'd feel bad about evolving it.
Brawlish
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Brawlish
Never actually used it or ever had the urge to use it, but punchfish has a pretty good design.
Sycophantom
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Sycophantom
Ghost elephant is pretty cool.
Blade Mantis
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Blade_Widow
I can't find myself putting this in A tier because this is literally just a praying mantis, but DANGIT the concept is still pretty cool.
Raduga
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Raduga
Pretty nice looking bird. Don't have a lot of strong attachment to it otherwise, though.
Vaero
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Vaero
I'm conflicted on Vaero. I originally picked up a Vaero with plans to use it, but it fell off pretty quickly early game because Vaero is a buffer at heart and buffing isn't that strong early game. However, by the time I got to the infamous Rhazes battle, I ended up making a Vaero part of my first cheese team (along with Yowie and Catzerker). All in all, Vaero is a buffer tank that relies on dodging to tank and cannot take a hit well, which can make it fall off hard by endgame too.
However, I like the design well enough, and both shift colors are incredibly nice.
Magmapillar
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Magmapillar
I debated whether I wanted to put this in high B tier or low A tier, but in the end I decided on this. I originally started out using this on my team, but as it started to fall off I swapped it out and unfortunately never got the chance to put it back in my team :(
It definitely could work if you're going for a full burn team (and is probably still endgame-viable in such a team), but I ended up not going that route.
Magmamoth
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Magmamoth
Not as cute as its pre-evolution, but still pretty cool. I'm a bit disappointed that it doesn't keep its shielding skills from Magmapillar, but I guess that's the trade-off for going full offense.
Plague Egg
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Plague_Egg
Also know as Plegg :P
I feel like this comes way too late to really make the most of it, but it's a cute design nonetheless.
Shockhopper
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Shockhopper
an elegant penguin boi
Skorch
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Skorch
Drippy candle dragon! It looks more like a cat to me, but kinda a cute design overall. Not hard to like!
Goblin King
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Goblin_King
-2 points for not being David Bowie
Otherwise, pretty cool, glad it's not just a copy-paste of the other goblin designs.
Goblin Hood
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Goblin_Hood
All the goblins are basically the same to me. Charming but idk why there are so many. Slight preference for this one's design though.
Goblin Brute
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Goblin_Brute
why are there so many goblins
I feel the same about basically all the goblins. They're decent designs (and both shift colors look nice for most of them), but I don't get why there are so many of them.
Goblin Warlock
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Goblin_Warlock
Same as the above basically.
Goblin Miner
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Goblin_Miner
hey look it's another goblin, this time with a new profession
one more to go
Goblin Pilot
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Goblin_Pilot
the final goblin
Caraglow
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Caraglow
Cute cat but not a ton going on in the design. The light shift colors remind me of Espeon though :P
Silvaero
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Silvaero
Like its pre-evolution Vaero, but I'm not as much of a fan of its design. I feel like it needed a little more to differentiate it. Again, though, both shift colors are very nice.
Mogwai
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Mogwai
Nice design, but MAN, is it annoying to fight against. I think that alone turned me off from using it. Light shift colors look great, dark shift looks a bit like Grimmsnarl :P
Catzerker
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Catzerker
I'm not a huge fan of Catzerker's design (its dark shift color is super cool though), and, like Vaero, picked it up to use on my team but dropped it after realizing how underwhelming it was. However, Catzerker's true strengths only start to show once it gets more skill points under its belt—it is an INCREDIBLE crit and Bleed machine. However, it is also incredibly frail.
Overall, however, I am grateful for its contribution to my cheese team.
Targoat
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Targoat
real inconvenient that it has a big target on it
but charming fellow <3
Akhlut
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Akhlut
Weird little whale dude with legs :P Fun to ride around, but somehow deeply unsettling.
Spectral Frog
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Spectral_Toad
Probably the least cool of the Spectral Familiars, but honestly not bad looking. Its dark shift color is definitely cooler, but the light shift colors aren't awful.
Crystal Snail
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Crystal_Snail
now i wanna see pokemon do their take on a crystal snail
Steam Golem
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Steam_Golem
One of the first Champion monsters you fight. Not a bad design, but I feel like there are a lot more cooler ones to use so this one never really caught my eye. IMO, could really use an evolution. Both shift colors are pretty good, especially the light shift.
Vasuki
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Vasuki
It's a two-headed snake! Pretty neat, especially because with your typical hydra you usually see like 3-5+ heads instead of just two.
Thornish
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Thornish
I don't hate it, but it's definitely kinda ugly.
Arachlich
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Arachlich
Spiderlich!
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Argiope
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Argiope
It's a spider. That FLIES. AAAARRGGHH.
Sutsune
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Sutsune
I am NOT a big fan of furry bait demon fox. It's an alright-enough design though.
Polterofen
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Polterofen
Nice enough, but a bit too weird for my tastes lol
Kongamato
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Kongamato
It's kinda charming in an ugly sorta way. But mostly an ugly sorta way.
Dodo
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Dodo
it's a dodo
Bard
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Bard
kinda ugly ngl
It's the final exploration monster you need (as well as the final monster in the game overall!!!), as its ability can desolve walls that have music notes on them (considering you see such blocks in the first area of the game, you have to wait a long while to get those treasures). I feel sorta iffy on this monster overall.
Tanuki
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Tanuki
I'll be honest, this is mostly down here because of how frustrating it is to just randomly have a Tanuki pop up in battle when you were expecting a different monster—it's charming the first time or two, but just gets annoying quickly.
Stolby
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Stolby
Just not a huge fan of the design. Kinda creepy in a slightly offputting way rather than a cool way.
Manticorb
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Manticorb
Kinda funny and a bit unnerving all the same.
Ninka Nanka
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Ninki_Nanka
A slight improvement over its pre-evolution, but altogether the designs feel way too similar. I almost feel like this should be the base design and the evolution should be something beefier, like a proper earth dragon.
Ninki
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Ninki
Very much I feel is an "ok" design. Not much else to say.
Aurumtail
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Aurumtail
Not an awful design, but a bit unsettling in some regards, especially with its, uhhh, tongue.
Molebear
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Molebear
It's not really awful, just a bit uninteresting to me. Maybe if its head was more tilted forward and aggressive I'd like it more.
G'rulu
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/G%27rulu
Slightly better than its pre-evolution Grummy, but not by much IMO. Also pretty annoying to fight against.
Spectral Lion
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Spectral_Lion
Idk, something about its sprite looks a bit... off. Maybe if the flame was higher it would look better. Similarly, both of its shift colors also look just slightly weird and would be better with some slight adjustments.
Darnation
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Darnation
what in darnation
kinda uggo, but i like the colors
Grummy
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Grummy
It's certainly a unique design, I'll give it that, but idk, I just don't really like it that much. Both its shift colors are nice, and apparently it's still pretty solid at endgame (especially when paired with its evolution), but honestly it's pretty annoying to fight against and I think that sorta turned me away from it too.
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Tengu
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Tengu
ew
Apparently he gets 4x Mana Overload on his grid and can get ridiculously high Attack and Magic stats as a result so that's kind of funny at least.
but ew
Druid Oak
https://monster-sanctuary.fandom.com/wiki/Druid_Oak
I do NOT like this thing. It's like if you combined a Trevenant with a Gourgeist and got the worst of both. Both shift colors are nice, at least.
Songs of Conquest unit rankings!!! Updated for the Vanir DLC and latest balance changes. Mostly based off my own personal preference (design + how I perceive the utility of the unit).
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- Spectre/Seneschal (Loth) - The Spectre design is pretty decent but fairly typical for a wraith; but the Seneschal design is perfection. The color scheme is fantastic and all the design elements just look great. They're good for Essence generation, and they offer a good mix of damage, defense, and utility. With recent balance changes, they now get Ethereal as their Tier 3 research, which gives them an innate 50% resistance to both melee and ranged damage (!!!!!)
- Ravager/Rider of the Swamp (Rana) - Fast, deadly, and a solid source of Essence. In terms of utility I'd placed them higher than the Shaman/Sage, but in terms of design I think the Shaman/Sage edges out slightly simply because both designs are unique and great in their own way (whereas the Rider of the Swamp is the design that really stands out among these two). Overall, upon playing Rana a bit more, I think I like the Riders slightly better than the Sages because the playstyle feels a bit more fun to me than just falling back on Sage spam. Plus they get hella buffed with being able to benefit from both Rana and Beast research.
- Shaman/Sage (Rana) - Incredible design (especially the upgrade) and a solidly reliable ranged unit as well.
- Scavenged Bones/Blessed Bones (Loth) - I said I'd bring them to S tier if they buffed them (again, their design is 10/10), and by Aurelia, they did buff 'em. They now generate 2 Destruction Essence by default, and have a max stack size of 20 with research, among a few other changes I may be missing. They are tanky lil' buggers and can also bring the hurt alongside their building buddies the Seneschals.
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- Tremor (Rana) - Hella solid unit and looks fantastic. They generate three Essence by default in the latest version, are decently tanky, deal solid damage, and can debuff enemies with their song. In terms of sheer utility they're probably one of the best units in the game for their role compression and sheer amount of roles they can play. They fact that they don't have an upgrade works in their favor, oddly enough, as you don't have to worry about paying extra for an upgrade. The fact they're recruited from the same building as the Ravager/Rider of the Swamp is phenomenal as well. It's not unrealistic to just have like 3 full troop stacks of Tremors.
- Hellbreath/Hellroar (Barya) - Another Barya unit that's annoying to fight against, but they are ridiculously fun to use yourself. Despite having only 1 movement by default (which can be buffed) they have unrivaled range and an AoE ranged attack (which can backfire in some situations). My only advice is to upgrade them ASAP, because the increased damage from the upgrade is noticeable.
- Berserkir/Skinshifter (Vanir) - The Skinshifters are the bread and butter beatstick of the Vanir (plus, their ability is hella cool and unique, albeit fairly niche). Unfortunately, like the Swine, there isn't really a reason to use the Berserkir. The Berserkir really need something unique that justified their use in a Human Vanir comp, because right now the Huskarl are really pulling the weight of Human Vanir :P
- Crone/Nornor (Vanir) - Hella annoying to fight against, but really fun to use if you can pull them off. They're basically melee units with unlimited ranged, which is really devious with proper support.
- Hunter/Storm Guard (Rana) - Still solid units with a great design, but unfortunately a bit overshadowed by the Riders of the Swamp, though they still have a place in a few comps and can absolutely be used alongside Riders for extra punch
- Knight/Fist of Order (Arleon) - Probably one of Arleon's best units, as well as the coolest. 8) Despite their low Initiative that seems to always make them move late in the turn, they deal incredible damage, especially if you take full advantage of their movement bonus.
- Oathbound/Legionnaire (Loth) - Solid take on the classic undead skeleton unit. They have a good balance between tankiness and damage, especially when upgraded, and even though they're pretty slow and tend to take a lot of losses it's still pretty easy to maintain max stacks of them. Good unit for filling out your army.
- Aurelian Scholar/Necromancer (Loth) - Great ranged unit, and when you're not using them for ranged attacks (either because the enemy isn't in range, of because the enemy is immediately adjacent) you can generate extra essence with the Necromancer's ability. The issue is just keeping them alive and replacing your losses fast enough.
- Dragon/Elder Dragon (Rana) - Listen. I love a good dragon, and these guys are pretty awesome, but they simultaneously feel really powerful and really unwieldy to use. The process of upgrading to them (especially the Elder Dragons in the latest upgrade, which can't be recruited directly but must be upgraded from regular Dragons) is a major hassle and basically unachievable in small maps, but their high movement and initiative makes them incredible dangerous in combination with their flame breath as long as your opponent don't have a good way to deal with them (coughJusticecough). If you manage to get them and max out their troop size and get multiple stacks, then they are definitely a deadly weapon of mass destruction—but good luck getting to that point!!!
- Rat/Plague Rat (Loth) - R A T P O W E R ! The main driving force behind a very interesting strategy :P Very easy to run out of rats, however, unless you dedicate a lot of resources into keeping your rat armies strong. Overall, high power but needs high numbers to work best, and often sustains heavy losses. Situational but fun if you can pull it off.
- Huskarl/Korphan (Vanir) - The Huskarl are pretty interesting units all things considered. They're really good early game, but fall off a bit during the middle, before becoming much more powerful if you max out Vanir's human research. The problem is that the other human units (Berserkir and Chieftain) don't pull their weight. Korphans are also an interesting unit that are great for sieges, denying enemy ranged units, or jumping in and out of zones of control as they damn well please. Unfortunately very frail, but with Oedi's Backstabber specialty for them, they can be pretty solid.
- Eth'dra (Rana) - Eth'dra can be sort of a mixed bag. They're solid units by themselves, but having to build a Tier 3 building just to get them doesn't really make them feel worth it. If you can get them for free or from a map structure, they're definitely worth using, but it's not always advisable to build a Smoldering Cave just to get Eth'dra.
- Ranger/Archer (Arleon) - Solid ranged units that are unfortunately overshadowed by the Sappers in terms of raw power in most situations. It's nice, especially early in the game, that they have incredible range and don't need to reload after each shot, but with maxed out research, Sappers are the superior choice. Out of all of SoC's units, they deserve buffs the most. I have suggested making them more tanky, increasing their HP and defense to give them better survivability.
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- Bacahorse/Hunger (Vanir) - Danger horsey! They hit pretty hard, especially with Charger, and are decent tanks too. The upgrade's ability is niche but still kinda fun in certain situations.
- Militia/Sapper (Arleon) - With recent buffs (especially getting Mobile as their Tier 3 research), they've become one of the most powerful Arleon units in terms of raw damage when they're maxed out, but they can often feel pretty unwieldy to use early game. Funnily enough they're actually pretty solid melee units too.
- Lykt/Lyktvaan (Vanir) - Pretty decent Tier 1 units that offer offensive buffing with their musician ability, and their Essence generation can really help out Huskarl too. If you max out their research, they can also (theoretically) deal hella insane damage, but that feels like a niche strat.
- Legion/High Legion (Loth) - The coolness factor is 11/10, and they can deal hella damage in the right circumstances, but something about them just doesn't do it for me compared to some of the other undead units. They're definitely on the slower side, and they feel like they need a lot of support to make full use of their potential.
- Tinkerer/Artificer (Barya) - A surprisingly-reliable unit to bolster your armies. Good at Essence generation and does good damage too. The flame ability occasionally comes in clutch too.
- Troll/Grym (Vanir) - Pretty solid ranged units whose upgrade can swap into melee mode for extra hurt. Not bad, just a little bit boring to me personally.
- Faey Spirit/Faey Rager (Arleon) - The glass cannon of Arleon. They're decently fast and deal a ton of damage, but take damage just as easily (at least their ability gives them complete magic immunity for the annoyance factor). I've definitely warmed up to them on my second playthrough of the Arleon campaign.
- Minstrel/Troubadour (Arleon) - I always underestimate them, but they're a pretty decent support and Essence generator—and they somehow manage to be able to deal solid damage on their own.
- Piper/Steam Piper (Barya) - They really blossom when upgraded, but their ability and Essence generation are both pretty helpful. It's easy to fill your army up with like three stacks of them and get them to significantly boost your army's initiative.
- Musketeer/Veteran Musketeer (Barya) - Decently strong, and their upgraded ability is helpful for times when you don't have enough range, but the fact that both of Barya's ranged units have to reload after taking a shot definitely limits their usefulness.
- Toxicologist/Bane (Loth) - When I first played the Loth campaign I found them underwhelming, but I think they've been buffed between then and the latest version of the game. Respectable ranged unit, but I still feel like they're overshadowed by Loth's other ranged unit.
- Faey Noble/Faey Queen (Arleon) - They're a really cool unit for sure, but in terms of usability they're definitely a bit... lacking. Their range just feels way too disappointing to be useful. Both units could easily get +1 on their range and they're still be a bit underwhelming. Could likely use an initiative buff too so they have the gimmick of being a ranged unit that usually goes first. I still maintain that they need a buff of some sort (the latest balance changes make their building cheaper, IIRC), which is true of a lot of the game's Tier 3 units.
- Pikeneer/Veteran Pikeneer (Barya) - Helpful during sieges (to give your other units room to infiltrate) and in keeping losses to a minimum, but I feel like their low speed really holds them back. Plus, they are super annoying to fight against. Out of all the Barya units, they probably need a buff the most.
- Horned One/Queen's Guard (Arleon) - Not the worst unit, just sorta bland. They always seem to move first in a turn whenever they show up (high initiative), but that sorta conflicts with their low movement and berserking gimmick. If I wanted to buff them, I'd probably lower their initiative, increase their movement by 1, and increase both their damage and defense slightly.
- Dreath/Dire Dreath (Barya) - Incredibly annoying to fight against, but after having used them myself I can definitely see their usefulness. I basically always try to have two stacks of them. They're reliable damage dealers and can sometimes just straight-up eliminate weakened enemies before they have the chance to damage you.
- Sassanid/Shadow (Barya) - The ultimate "move first and kill things" unit. You really need to buff their movement if you want them to work properly, and go hard on the Order Essence generation so you can give them the extra movement when they need it most, but BOY do they hit hard.
- Swine/Serimnann (Vanir) - The other unit that currently gets Ethereal from research. Since they're paired with the Skinshifters they have interesting synergy. My big problem with them is that there's basically no reason to use Swines, since they're just worse versions of the Serimnann. The Swines need something to make them unique so you actually have a reason to use them as part of a Human Vanir comp!!!
- Chelun/Chelun Elder (Rana) - Great for Essence generation, and decently tanky, but hella slow (I mean, they are turtles, soooooo). If you want a ton of Creation/Arcana Essence they're definitely worth using.
- Cultist/Oathsinger (Loth) - Good for spell damage builds (their ability buffs spell damage), but the problem is that they don't offer any Destruction Essence (which is home to all the best damaging spells. If you can maintain a good way to generate Destruction Essence and you're going for a spell damage build, though, they can be useful. Also pair decently well with Necromancers, which, well, they should :P
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- Chieftain/Jormr (Vanir) - I really want to like them, but the Chieftain don't feel especially satisfying to use in their current state, and the Jormr is really difficult to actually field (though in theory they're incredibly powerful once you actually manage to get them). The Chieftain should be "strike first attackers" with high initiative and movement, but instead they're sort of a little tanky and their main purpose is to buff allies. I'd definitely love to see a reworking, of the Chieftain especially, to make a full Human Vanir comp actually worth using.
- Crawler/Adult Crawler (Rana) - Solid design, but not the most useful for a couple of reasons: their Essence generation is pitiful; the Burrowing ability of the upgrade is unreliable and has dubious usefulness; they're recruited from the same building as the Guard/Protector.
- Footman/Shield of Order (Arleon) - In contrast to the Minstrel/Troubadour... every time I use this unit, I always overestimate them. They're mostly meant as a tank, but their damage output always seems to be lacking, and their tankiness is of limited usefulness when they're so slow and still sustain heavy losses anyway. At least they generate a lot of Order Essence, I guess...
- Risen (Loth) - They exist, I guess, and they might be getting buffs at some point in the distant future. However, they're really only useful as meat shields when they're given to you en masse (as happens in a few different points in the Loth campaign). Their really high Initiative (which is a recent change—they used to have pretty low initiative!) is something, at least.
- Guard/Protector (Rana) - Another tanky unit. It really doesn't feel like this game is kind to tanky units. Good for protecting ranged units, I guess, or denying enemy ranged units with Bull Rush but their lackluster damage output and pitiful Essence generation (especially compared to a lot of other Rana units) doesn't make them fun to use.
- Brute/Scarred Brute (Barya) - With all the buffs they've gotten, they're incredibly solid units but I can't say I find them especially fun to use. Still sorta feel like A Unit That Exists to me, almost like how Salvador is the most boring Vault Hunter for me in Borderlands 2 despite being the best one.