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Title: [DELETED] [NDS] Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - "Marvin Grossberg ~ Old Age, Regret, Retribution" by Onionleaf
Post by: Zeta on February 16, 2018, 11:44:56 PM
Submission Information:

Series: Ace Attorney
Game: Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
Console: Nintendo DS
Title: Marvin Grossberg ~ Old Age, Regret, Retribution
Instrumentation Solo Piano
Arranger: Onionleaf (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3620)
Title: Re: [NDS] Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - "Marvin Grossberg ~ Old Age, Regret, Retribution" by Onionl
Post by: Onionleaf on February 16, 2018, 11:48:15 PM
I may have missed some nuances in the harmonies, but other than that it's hopefully not an awfully difficult sheet to check.

Title: Re: [NDS] Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - "Marvin Grossberg ~ Old Age, Regret, Retribution" by Onionl
Post by: Khunjund on February 17, 2018, 01:25:58 PM
The final chord of measure 1 and its repetitions is an A7sus4 chord. The D in the left hand should be an A (first space) and the E in the right hand should be a G (second line).

From measure 9 onward, the progression is Emin7-Bmin7-C7. The original upper voicing for the Bmin7 chord is A-D-F# starting on the fourth line and going up, but sometimes this isn't possible because of the melody's range, so I suggest moving the F# down an octave when they would overlap. The E in the C7 chord upper voicing is an octave higher.

In measure 12, the C's in the right hand should be Bb's and the D should be a C (it's the same as measure 16, but with a C7 to D7 progression rather than Cmaj7 to D7). Since these two measure are so similar, I suggest having the same split between first and second layers in both of them, or merging the layers outright.
Title: Re: [NDS] Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - "Marvin Grossberg ~ Old Age, Regret, Retribution" by Onionl
Post by: Khunjund on February 17, 2018, 03:48:54 PM
Also, considering the style of the piece, it should most likely be written in 4/4 time with swing eighths.
Title: Re: [NDS] Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - "Marvin Grossberg ~ Old Age, Regret, Retribution" by Onionl
Post by: Onionleaf on February 23, 2018, 02:42:09 PM
Cool, thank you for the corrections, I should have realised to include a lot more dominant 7th chords. Hopefully I've understood all of your points correctly (forgive my sleepy brain if I missed anything).

I see what you mean about changing to 4/4 swing, but I felt that because there are so many triplet quavers *ack* 8th notes, it seems easier to read the music in 12/8.
Title: Re: [NDS] Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - "Marvin Grossberg ~ Old Age, Regret, Retribution" by Onionl
Post by: Latios212 on February 23, 2018, 03:14:58 PM
Hmm... I would have to agree that the song is more suggestive of swing than 12/8, particularly the percussion line.

Also - change the key signature to that of E minor (one sharp).
Title: Re: [NDS] Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - "Marvin Grossberg ~ Old Age, Regret, Retribution" by Onionl
Post by: Onionleaf on March 01, 2018, 12:31:57 AM
I'm not having a good run with my time signatures, am I? :P

All fixed!
Title: Re: [NDS] Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - "Marvin Grossberg ~ Old Age, Regret, Retribution" by Onionl
Post by: Khunjund on March 01, 2018, 12:53:32 PM
I suggest you change the "two eighths tied to an eighth and a quarter in a triplet" rhythm in measures 4, 8 and 14 into quarter note triplets for legibility. Grace notes leading up to a note need a slur connecting them, even if the entire phrase is slurred, and single note acciaccaturas are always written as a slashed eighth note, not a slashed sixteenth.

Now, you don't need to change this if you actually have a reason for doing it, but I'm curious as to why you chose to add an E to the Em7 chord upper voicings, as opposed to keeping them consistent with the three-note Bm7 and C7 ones. Similarly, why did you change some grace notes into mordants? If it's just because the Finale playback was a bit off, I recommend reverting that.

Also, I'm pretty sure those Fb's are F naturals.
Title: Re: [NDS] Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - "Marvin Grossberg ~ Old Age, Regret, Retribution" by Onionl
Post by: InsigTurtle on March 29, 2018, 08:53:00 PM
Bump for arranger!
I'm not a fan of the current notation in m.12 and m.16 – as is, it looks like the whole thing is the melody, when it's just the top note of the first and last chords
Title: Re: [NDS] Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - "Marvin Grossberg ~ Old Age, Regret, Retribution" by Onionl
Post by: mastersuperfan on March 31, 2018, 11:06:57 AM
This is... really hard for me to read in 4/4 Swing.
Title: Re: [NDS] Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - "Marvin Grossberg ~ Old Age, Regret, Retribution" by Onionl
Post by: Khunjund on March 31, 2018, 09:08:04 PM
Quote from: mastersuperfan on March 31, 2018, 11:06:57 AMThis is... really hard for me to read in 4/4 Swing.

I guess habit's a part of it, but writing quarter note triplets as "two eighths tied to an eighth and a quarter in a triplet" doesn't help.
Title: Re: [NDS] Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - "Marvin Grossberg ~ Old Age, Regret, Retribution" by Onionl
Post by: Sebastian on May 08, 2018, 10:40:05 AM
Quote from: InsigTurtle on March 29, 2018, 08:53:00 PMBump for arranger!
I'm not a fan of the current notation in m.12 and m.16 – as is, it looks like the whole thing is the melody, when it's just the top note of the first and last chords

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