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Title: The Next Special Update (January/February 2020)
Post by: Latios212 on January 12, 2020, 12:45:18 PM
The results have been announced here (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/index.php?topic=11098.msg416676#msg416676) and the new project thread is now up here (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/index.php?topic=11117.0)!  Thank you to everyone who took part in nominations and voting!



Hello everyone!

Here is how we're going to choose a theme for our next special update. Any user can suggest ONE theme by posting here. The one hard restriction we're going to place this time is the following:
- The theme cannot be limited to a single game/series or musical style.

Other than that, anything is fair game (within reason, as decided by the staff). This can be something straightforward like "underwater" or "food" or something more silly like "track title starts with A" or "track starts in E minor". Try to aim for something that is fairly well represented across all video games and musical styles - see our Halloween or Winter updates for how a theme can encompass a large variety of pieces from many different games and arrangers.

Nominations are open for one ONE WEEK from the time of this post. After that, there will be one week of voting, two weeks of arranging, and two weeks of reviewing - more details to come later.

So, that said, suggest away! :)

If you're curious, some background on why we're changing things up from previous arrangement projects
Looking back on previous arrangement projects, they dragged on for ridiculously long periods of time because:
- Motivation was low. This was due in part to low community involvement (sheets were mainly submitted by a few people who liked the game) and due in part to burnout after working with the same soundtrack for the entire project. By having a broader theme more people would be interested in submitting a variety of sheets, and people wouldn't become tired looking over them because they represent all kinds of musical styles.
- We didn't have a schedule. This allowed us to postpone wrapping things up indefinitely, which naturally led to letting them go on for years.
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List of suggested themes:
- "Final boss battles"
- "Boss battles"
- "First main area themes of open world-esque games"
- "Food/cooking"
- "Themes that use acoustic instruments"
- "Arcade games of the 80s & 90s"
- "Travel"
- "Credits themes"
- "Opening/title themes"
- "Music about music"
- "Unlikely heroes/protagonists"
- "Aquatic"
- "Nostalgic"
Title: Re: The Next Special Update (January/February 2020)
Post by: mastersuperfan on January 12, 2020, 12:51:20 PM
(Final) boss themes?
Title: Re: The Next Special Update (January/February 2020)
Post by: mikey on January 12, 2020, 12:52:23 PM
Valentine's day is just around the corner.  We could mark the occasion by arranging boss battle themes?

THAT NINJA
Title: Re: The Next Special Update (January/February 2020)
Post by: PlayfulPiano on January 12, 2020, 12:53:21 PM
First main area themes of open world-esque games.

Examples: Forgotten Crossroads for Hollow Knight, Shinshu Field for Okami, etc.
Title: Re: The Next Special Update (January/February 2020)
Post by: Yug_Guy on January 12, 2020, 12:58:49 PM
I think an update based around food/cooking would be pretty neat.
Title: Re: The Next Special Update (January/February 2020)
Post by: ThatHiddenCharacter on January 12, 2020, 01:01:28 PM
I think themes that use acoustic instruments might be nice, if a bit broad.
Title: Re: The Next Special Update (January/February 2020)
Post by: LeviR.star on January 12, 2020, 01:02:26 PM
I think it would be a good idea to assemble a set of arrangements from arcade games of the 80s & 90s, and possibly later. Classic Namco games, like Pac-Man and Galaga, have limited representation on the site, and games everyone knows, like Street Fighter II: The World Warrior, have a ridiculously low number of sheets.

This would give our arrangers a wide variety of games to choose from, as many different franchises and companies have graced the arcade industry at least a few times. Less-daring arrangers could take on early 80's titles with simpler soundtracks, and seasoned NSM veterans could arrange whatever they want. I believe that this update has a clear enough theme while still allowing for plenty of variety.

EDIT: 2222th post FTW
Title: Re: The Next Special Update (January/February 2020)
Post by: Code_Name_Geek on January 12, 2020, 01:08:06 PM
What about songs themed around travel? Flying, riding, train stations, fast travel themes, that sort of thing.

Quote from: Yug_Guy on January 12, 2020, 12:58:49 PMI think an update based around food/cooking would be pretty neat.
I like this idea quite a bit too.
Title: Re: The Next Special Update (January/February 2020)
Post by: thatoneguy on January 12, 2020, 01:12:22 PM
These all seem like such great ideas! All the ideas that I thought of broke the one rule, or get so close to breaking the rule that they might as well break the rule. I can't wait to see all the choices when it's time for voting!
Title: Re: The Next Special Update (January/February 2020)
Post by: Maelstrom on January 12, 2020, 01:24:42 PM
Quote from: mastersuperfan on January 12, 2020, 12:51:20 PM(Final) boss themes?
I like this, and it makes me want to add a "normal battle" theme too.
Title: Re: The Next Special Update (January/February 2020)
Post by: Maelstrom on January 12, 2020, 08:00:57 PM
Other idea: music about music. All songs need to have something musical in the title, or be used in the game explicitly for the music itself. Examples are rhythm game OSTs, rhythm minigame songs from other games, and song titles include things like A Beautiful Song (Nier Automata), Etude for Ghosts (Mother 3), or Conflict's Chime (Bravely Default).
Title: Re: The Next Special Update (January/February 2020)
Post by: Latios212 on January 12, 2020, 08:04:04 PM
These are good ideas guys ^^ (For myself, I haven't decided on one to suggest yet...)

Maelstrom - do you want that to count as your suggestion?
Title: Re: The Next Special Update (January/February 2020)
Post by: davidchihlas on January 12, 2020, 08:18:03 PM
Credits themes?
Title: Re: The Next Special Update (January/February 2020)
Post by: SlowPokemon on January 12, 2020, 09:36:35 PM
I'm gonna second Maelstrom's thing, like music that's written in a specific musical genre or says a genre its name.
Title: Re: The Next Special Update (January/February 2020)
Post by: Zeila on January 12, 2020, 09:41:24 PM
I like these ideas already, but for completeness we could add "opening/title themes" for suggestions
Title: Re: The Next Special Update (January/February 2020)
Post by: Maelstrom on January 13, 2020, 01:50:19 PM
Quote from: Latios212 on January 12, 2020, 08:04:04 PMMaelstrom - do you want that to count as your suggestion?
Sure.

Quote from: SlowPokemon on January 12, 2020, 09:36:35 PMI'm gonna second Maelstrom's thing, like music that's written in a specific musical genre or says a genre its name.
Not really this. My suggestion is that it either has a distinctly musical term in the song title, or, a song that is the game. That is, the game relies directly on the song itself for game mechanics. Examples include the character special themes from Bravely Default, which give a buff as long as the song plays in-game, or a song written for a rhythm game, like the Rhythm Heaven, where the gameplay revolves around the song itself. 
Title: Re: The Next Special Update (January/February 2020)
Post by: NineLives on January 13, 2020, 04:40:40 PM
I was thinking about a theme of the unlikely heroes/protagonists. Basically, this would feature games with outlandish characters that may or may not suit the world they inhabit or the story they take part in. For example, games like ToeJam & Earl, Chibi-Robo!, The Lost Vikings, Leisure Suit Larry, Dandy Dungeon, Earthworm Jim, games like that with characters moving away from the sort of mainstream heroes like Mario, Link, Master Chief, Kratos, Sonic, and so on. I'm mostly thinking of the more underrated titles of gaming history. I'm hoping this is broad enough to spark some arrangements that can introduce people to a game, series, or at least some music that they've never played/heard before.
Title: Re: The Next Special Update (January/February 2020)
Post by: AwesomeYears on January 13, 2020, 08:55:26 PM
I was going to think of a unique theme, but in the end, I'm just gonna endorse the BOSS THEMES idea, as I'm in the middle of transcribing two boss themes myself, makes my life a bit easier wink wink.
Title: Re: The Next Special Update (January/February 2020)
Post by: thatoneguy on January 14, 2020, 10:57:25 AM
"Borrowing" an idea from Latios212: Aquatic

To clarify, aquatic themes don't mean only underwater songs/levels. Underwater themes are fine, but this could include songs from a port/water-themed town or a beach. If there's a special theme for a water boss, I would say it counts.

I [personally] think that saying underwater just puts this "unconscious" idea that it's got to be from an underwater level. That's why I'm saying aquatic instead.

Although, this probably isn't the right time or seasonal "mood" to do an aquatic themed update, but just a thought for right now.
Title: Re: The Next Special Update (January/February 2020)
Post by: PokeMaestro on January 16, 2020, 09:10:14 AM
A project about "nostalgic video game music" would be cool ... and nostalgic! ^^
Title: Re: The Next Special Update (January/February 2020)
Post by: Libera on January 19, 2020, 01:05:30 PM
Hi everyone, we've now had a week for people to submit potential candidates for the next project.  The time for submitting those is now officially over, and it is time for the voting to begin!  How will this work?  All you have to do is PM me (over the forums preferably, but if you can't for some reason then you can use discord) your order of preference for the potential themes.  It's important that you rank all of the options, not leaving any out.  Any votes that are submitted without giving a full ranking will not be counted.

Example vote PM
"My vote/ranking is:
1-  Travel
2- First main area themes of open world-esque games
3- Unlikely heroes/protagonists
4- Boss battles
5- Final boss battles
6- Credits themes
7- Arcade games of the 80s & 90s
8- Food/cooking
9- Themes that use acoustic instruments
10- Opening/title themes
11- Music about music
12- Aquatic
13- Nostalgic"



This theoretical person's favourite option is 'Travel', and their least favourite is 'Nostalgic'.  (And just to make it clear, these aren't my preferences, I just picked this order randomly as an example). 
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After the deadline (see below), I will then collate all of these votes and use a simple STV (Single-transferable-vote) system to determine the winner.  This means that I will tally up all of the first preference votes to see if there is an overall majority.  If there isn't, the least popular option will be eliminated and any people who had that option as their first preference will have their votes moved to their second preference.  This process continues until a majority emerges, which it has to (unless we get seriously unlucky).  Also, note that since it will be the arrangers of the site who will be actually taking part, their votes count for double.  (For the purposes of this vote, an arranger is anyone who has a sheet currently on-site.)

The deadline for sending me your votes is exactly one week after this post.  I'll then post the results sometime shortly after that, (however long it takes me to tally everything up) and then the project will begin!

For reference, here are all of the themes you can vote for:
- "Final boss battles"
- "Boss battles"
- "First main area themes of open world-esque games"
- "Food/cooking"
- "Themes that use acoustic instruments"
- "Arcade games of the 80s & 90s"
- "Travel"
- "Credits themes"
- "Opening/title themes"
- "Music about music"
- "Unlikely heroes/protagonists"
- "Aquatic"
- "Nostalgic"
Title: Re: The Next Special Update (January/February 2020)
Post by: mikey on January 19, 2020, 01:14:20 PM
Why do we have to rank all of them?  Wouldn't it be more streamlined to just pick x that you're okay with?
Title: Re: The Next Special Update (January/February 2020)
Post by: Libera on January 19, 2020, 01:22:42 PM
Quote from: mikey on January 19, 2020, 01:14:20 PMWhy do we have to rank all of them?  Wouldn't it be more streamlined to just pick x that you're okay with?

It's to make it (almost) impossible for there to be a tie.  If there's only a few you care about, then feel free to just put down the rest arbitrarily (although it's to your own benefit for you to put them down in an actual full order of preference).
Title: Re: The Next Special Update (January/February 2020)
Post by: Libera on January 26, 2020, 01:05:14 PM
Voting is now closed.  I'll announce the result shortly, along with starting the new project thread.  Hold tight!
Title: Re: The Next Special Update (January/February 2020)
Post by: Libera on January 26, 2020, 01:44:02 PM
Voting has now finished for the theme of our next update, and after counting up all of the votes it is time to announce...

The Results! (In reverse order.)

13. Nostalgic
12. First Main Area Themes
11. Arcade Games of the 80's/90's
10. Credit Themes
9. Unlikely Heroes
8. Music about music
7. Aquatic
6. Boss Battles
5. Opening/Title Themes
4. Travel
3. Acoustic Instruments
2. Final Boss Themes

Which means that the winner is...

1. Food/Cooking!



A big thank you to everyone that voted, and I look forward to seeing you all (and, perhaps more importantly, your sheets) in the project thread which will be up momentarily!