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Title: Yug Guy's Replacements
Post by: Yug_Guy on May 30, 2020, 07:09:11 PM
Crystalis [NES]
The Great PyramidMUS (https://goo.gl/75U5xI)MUSX (https://goo.gl/BbyxEl)MIDI (https://goo.gl/PYQt7m)PDF (https://goo.gl/5ZSpTS)Original (https://tinyurl.com/y9qudorv)
TownMUS (https://tinyurl.com/y87dloe9)MUSX (https://tinyurl.com/y9tgz23j)MIDI (https://tinyurl.com/y8gq43at)PDF (https://tinyurl.com/y7te4mos)Original (https://tinyurl.com/ok4sduz)

Donkey Kong Country [SNES]
Bonus Game Victory / Boss Defeated JingleMUS (https://goo.gl/ambBeO)MUSX (https://goo.gl/MyUWZ8)MIDI (https://goo.gl/gswR5H)PDF (https://tinyurl.com/yacbq58o)Original (https://goo.gl/hXlMKW)
Funky's FugueMUS (https://goo.gl/4eR49l)MUSX (https://goo.gl/fvGlCE)MIDI (https://goo.gl/pbGYyY)PDF (https://goo.gl/gbK15k)Original (https://goo.gl/jQvJLl)

Earthworm Jim [GEN]
ButtvilleMUS (https://goo.gl/kYQzYq)MUSX (https://goo.gl/bDRHui)MIDI (https://goo.gl/O6PEOI)PDF (https://goo.gl/VhkIxR)Original (https://tinyurl.com/y76vx5mp)

Final Fantasy IV [SNES]
Battle 2MUS (https://goo.gl/8FYfUf)MUSX (https://goo.gl/KRDd9v)MIDI (https://goo.gl/ySLVzL)PDF (https://goo.gl/iVajWT)Original (https://goo.gl/FsktfZ)

Goldeneye 007 [N64]
Opening ThemeMUS (https://tinyurl.com/y9u6q8d4)MUSX (https://tinyurl.com/yak86fv6)MIDI (https://tinyurl.com/yc9p7lmw)PDF (https://tinyurl.com/y9ltnxmo)Original (https://tinyurl.com/yaluxhg2)
Watch (Pause Screen)MUS (https://tinyurl.com/ycedrhuf)MUSX (https://tinyurl.com/y9ge2zcp)MIDI (https://tinyurl.com/yb22q2f6)PDF (https://tinyurl.com/yd5ymmr6)Original (https://tinyurl.com/y8hx6vv3)

Mach Rider [NES]
Main BGM 1MUS (https://goo.gl/4EMcoz)MUSX (https://goo.gl/XJN028)MIDI (https://goo.gl/j8l2cy)PDF (https://goo.gl/HwzasL)Original (https://goo.gl/g5Zyl1)

Secret of Mana [SNES]
The Color of the Summer SkyMUS (https://goo.gl/UB14Sg)MUSX (https://goo.gl/RU6bGp)KvX4z1]MIDI (https://goo.gl/green)PDF (https://goo.gl/CXpEb1)Original (https://goo.gl/Jt1NN1)

Sonic the Hedgehog 3 [GEN]
Endless MineMUS (https://goo.gl/RvcSju)MUSX (https://goo.gl/CxD9fb)MIDI (https://goo.gl/uQyHXp)PDF (https://goo.gl/XrzWI6)Original (https://goo.gl/oRxcn5)
Title: Re: Yug Guy's Replacements
Post by: Yug_Guy on June 01, 2020, 06:22:32 PM
Update: added a bunch of my existing arrangements to both this thread & the Dropbox folder.
Title: Re: Yug Guy's Replacements
Post by: Yug_Guy on June 12, 2020, 05:31:08 PM
I added two brand-new replacements to my list:

Goldeneye 007 [N64]
Opening ThemeMUS (https://tinyurl.com/y9u6q8d4)MUSX (https://tinyurl.com/yak86fv6)MIDI (https://tinyurl.com/yc9p7lmw)PDF (https://tinyurl.com/y9ltnxmo)Original (https://tinyurl.com/yaluxhg2)
Watch (Pause Screen)MUS (https://tinyurl.com/ycedrhuf)MUSX (https://tinyurl.com/y9ge2zcp)MIDI (https://tinyurl.com/yb22q2f6)PDF (https://tinyurl.com/yd5ymmr6)Original (https://tinyurl.com/y8hx6vv3)

The Goldeneye sheets are in a sorry state right now, so I figured I'd help it out a little bit. Who know, I might do more in the future.

Also added Funky's Fugue (the last replacement I had already done). I know something needs to be changed on the sheet, but I certainly couldn't tell you what that is.

And, unfortunately, it looks like these will be my last contributions before the deadline. I look forward to seeing what you guys have in store!
Title: Re: Yug Guy's Replacements
Post by: Static on June 14, 2020, 12:32:53 PM
Battle 2 - FFIV
Title: Re: Yug Guy's Replacements
Post by: Latios212 on June 15, 2020, 08:09:11 PM
Town (Crystalis)
One main thing about this one. In some of the measures that play C in the bass on beat 1 you've written in G instead - m. 1, 5, 17, 20, 21. I get the want to use a different note in the chord to preserve the sense of motion in the left hand pattern, but I think this results in a somewhat odd sound as the G bass implies that the song wants to resolve to C in the next measure. The original does this in measure 4 - C chord with G in the bass that resolves to a C in measure 5. The measures I mentioned have that sort of unfulfilled expectation - they really should emphasize the tonic instead. My suggestion would be to simply write in a C on beat 1 even if it is repeated on beat 1.5. Your choice though, just thought I'd point that out.

The other small things:
Title: Re: Yug Guy's Replacements
Post by: Yug_Guy on June 19, 2020, 05:54:24 PM
Quote from: Static on June 14, 2020, 12:32:53 PMBattle 2 - FFIV
I did all the fixes in separate sessions, so apologies if I missed something

Quote from: Static on June 14, 2020, 12:32:53 PM
  • Use the tie tool to flip the tie at the beginning of m25.
For whatever reason, Finale refuses to flip it. Can someone help me out here?



Quote from: Latios212 on June 15, 2020, 08:09:11 PMTown (Crystalis)
~snip~
I only did this to replace the song, I have no emotional attachment to it, or the arrangement, so all your suggestions are A-OK.
Title: Re: Yug Guy's Replacements
Post by: Latios212 on June 19, 2020, 06:36:26 PM
Town - Crystalis
Quote from: Yug_Guy on June 19, 2020, 05:54:24 PMI only did this to replace the song, I have no emotional attachment to it, or the arrangement, so all your suggestions are A-OK.
:'(
haha looks good. Last note in m. 16 is a D instead of an E which I fixed. Approved!



Quote from: Yug_Guy on June 19, 2020, 05:54:24 PMFor whatever reason, Finale refuses to flip it. Can someone help me out here?
Fixed it. For reference you should be seeing something like this when using the tie tool:
Spoiler
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401094846107877377/723712695857315901/unknown.png
[close]
Title: Re: Yug Guy's Replacements
Post by: Static on June 19, 2020, 11:24:49 PM
Quote from: Yug_Guy on June 19, 2020, 05:54:24 PMI did all the fixes in separate sessions, so apologies if I missed something
All the other changes look good.
Title: Re: Yug Guy's Replacements
Post by: Static on June 23, 2020, 01:14:56 PM
Color of the Summer Sky
Thanks for replacing this one, the current sheet we have sounds almost nothing like the original song...
Title: Re: Yug Guy's Replacements
Post by: Yug_Guy on July 05, 2020, 12:22:59 PM
Sorry for the wait on this one, I'll try and stay more on top of these.

Quote from: Static on June 19, 2020, 11:24:49 PM
  • In m33 you can also hide the half rest if you want, then flip the bottom 2 ties down.. If the tie tool doesn't work again I can get that for you.
I tried working with the tie tool, but I couldn't figure out what to do with it & Finale's online documentation didn't help. I would appreciate it if you could help me with this.


Quote from: Static on June 23, 2020, 01:14:56 PMColor of the Summer Sky
  • The string part (LH layer 2) is a bit more complicated in the original, but I think what you have is a good simplification; the LH is already pretty busy. However, based on what you have, some of the notes are incorrect. Basically, starting in m5-6, layer 2 should always be half note dyads F-A, G-Bb, A-C, G-Bb. Here's an example for how I'd change it:

    ~snip~

    The main thing is to avoid doubling notes in a lower octave, since it'll sound more muddy. The melody has some of the harmony notes in it, so you don't need to always include both notes in layer 2. In places like m11-12, I think it would sound fine moving those notes up an octave, except for the first one so the melody note is the most prominent at first.
I tried my best with this, let me know what you think.

Quote from: Static on June 23, 2020, 01:14:56 PM
  • Pedaling is not really implied just from reading m29-36, maybe you could add that. I'm guessing you didn't include it bc you don't want the RH pedaled, so in that case it's fine as is.
Actually, pedal makes a lot of sense here. Added.
Title: Re: Yug Guy's Replacements
Post by: Latios212 on July 09, 2020, 04:27:03 PM
Funky's Fugue

Really nice! This is a really weird song to write on piano... but your sheets gets the job done and it's pretty easy for a performer to improvise something for themselves too.

Only have a few aesthetic comments:
- Move things up on page 1 a bit so the copyright isn't so close to the bottom
- I'd suggest lowering the lower layer RH rests a bit to be more aligned with the part - the height they're at now sometimes almost crosses into where the upper layer notes are
- New dynamic (f) for m. 25+?
- The melody attacks in m. 25+ seem pretty pointed, I'd suggest not extending them to fill up the measure (dotted quarter notes, and the tied notes). Also not sure if beat 2 in the last measure is intentionally an eighth note?
- Composer/arranger info are a bit far apart
Title: Re: Yug Guy's Replacements
Post by: Yug_Guy on July 10, 2020, 07:00:13 PM
Quote from: Latios212 on July 09, 2020, 04:27:03 PM- Move things up on page 1 a bit so the copyright isn't so close to the bottom
- I'd suggest lowering the lower layer RH rests a bit to be more aligned with the part - the height they're at now sometimes almost crosses into where the upper layer notes are
- New dynamic (f) for m. 25+?
- The melody attacks in m. 25+ seem pretty pointed, I'd suggest not extending them to fill up the measure (dotted quarter notes, and the tied notes). Also not sure if beat 2 in the last measure is intentionally an eighth note?
- Composer/arranger info are a bit far apart
All fixed.
Title: Re: Yug Guy's Replacements
Post by: Latios212 on July 11, 2020, 08:36:13 AM
Funky's Fugue
Great! Approved :)

Mach Rider - Race Theme 01
- Any reason the melody in the beginning is raised an octave?
- Last bass note in m. 6 should be F instead of Ab
- Looks like bars 9-16 could use repeats around them (and a DC) instead of writing out two more systems, allowing you to space out the music a bit more.
- I don't think the notes should be tied between m. 13/14 and 15/16
- There are a few notes in particular that sound like they should be staccato - in the RH m. 2/6 beat 1, m. 4 beat 2, the B naturals in m. 7
- https
Title: Re: Yug Guy's Replacements
Post by: Static on July 11, 2020, 12:53:56 PM
Quote from: Yug_Guy on July 05, 2020, 12:22:59 PMI tried working with the tie tool, but I couldn't figure out what to do with it & Finale's online documentation didn't help. I would appreciate it if you could help me with this.
Got it. And with that I approve.

Quote from: Yug_Guy on July 05, 2020, 12:22:59 PMI tried my best with this, let me know what you think.
Looks good, I would just edit m21-22 and 25-26 to match with 23-24 and 27-28. That's all I got for this one, looks great.

Title: Re: Yug Guy's Replacements
Post by: Maelstrom on July 11, 2020, 01:55:46 PM
Town (Crystalis)
Literally nothing to say about this. Looks nice and plays as nice as a bland composition like this can.
accepted

Funky's Fugue
Probably just a C+P error, but the bassline is different b3 of m28 and the like. I hear a D for all 3 notes, just for that beat. This is true for all similar measures.
I think there's a 4th hi in the last measure ......
Does the "play an octave lower than written" apply to both hands? It's not mentioned as such, even if playback is that way. I'd recommend adding a bit of text to clarify your intention (both hands or LH)
A few of the woos are a bit too close to the accents for comfort. Not sure if that's easily fixable, but I do see it as an issue.
Those aside, this looks fantastic. The original is pretty cool; never actually heard this song before.

Battle 2 (FFIV)
Just one thing here - can you flip the 2nd layer tie in m26? It's colliding with the accent.
Title: Re: Yug Guy's Replacements
Post by: Yug_Guy on July 13, 2020, 05:50:02 PM
Quote from: Latios212 on July 11, 2020, 08:36:13 AMRace Theme 01
- Any reason the melody in the beginning is raised an octave?
No idea - don't know what past me was thinking. Fixed.

Quote from: Latios212 on July 11, 2020, 08:36:13 AM- There are a few notes in particular that sound like they should be staccato - in the RH m. 2/6 beat 1, m. 4 beat 2, the B naturals in m. 7
I don't agree with m.2/6, but I added the rest & a couple additional ones.

Also, I went & looked to see if there was an official name for this one and multiple (https://vgmdb.net/album/1472) sources (http://www.vgmpf.com/Wiki/index.php?title=Mach_Rider_(NES)) say that the title of this song is Main BGM 1, so I'm sticking with that.



Quote from: Static on July 11, 2020, 12:53:56 PMThe Color of the Summer Sky
Looks good, I would just edit m21-22 and 25-26 to match with 23-24 and 27-28. That's all I got for this one, looks great.
Done.



Quote from: Maelstrom on July 11, 2020, 01:55:46 PMBattle 2
Just one thing here - can you flip the 2nd layer tie in m26? It's colliding with the accent.
I finally figured it out. Fixed.



Quote from: Maelstrom on July 11, 2020, 01:55:46 PMFunky's Fugue
Probably just a C+P error, but the bassline is different b3 of m28 and the like. I hear a D for all 3 notes, just for that beat. This is true for all similar measures.
I double-checked & it's actually E. Fixed.

Quote from: Maelstrom on July 11, 2020, 01:55:46 PMA few of the woos are a bit too close to the accents for comfort. Not sure if that's easily fixable, but I do see it as an issue.
idk if Finale will let me move lyrics up or down.
Title: Re: Yug Guy's Replacements
Post by: Maelstrom on July 13, 2020, 07:37:42 PM
oops yeah I meant an E

Both are accepted
Title: Re: Yug Guy's Replacements
Post by: Latios212 on July 23, 2020, 05:32:31 PM
Main BGM 1 / Race Theme 01
Sure, title and fixes look good. Just a few quick things - move everything within the top/bottom margins, add www. to the URL, and rename the file with the updated track title and I'm done with this one :)

edit: I went ahead and did it, so approving!
Title: Re: Yug Guy's Replacements
Post by: Static on August 09, 2020, 06:16:44 PM
Quote from: Yug_Guy on July 13, 2020, 05:50:02 PMDone.

Sorry for the wait, I've approved it now.
Title: Re: Yug Guy's Replacements
Post by: Static on August 20, 2020, 11:47:43 AM
Mach Rider - Main BGM 1
- This sounds more like F minor than C minor to me.
- Grace note in m8 should have a slur.
- Copyright year should be 1985 since that was the original release date.
- HAL Laboratory did not work on this game.
Title: Re: Yug Guy's Replacements
Post by: Yug_Guy on August 21, 2020, 05:37:00 PM
Quote from: Static on August 20, 2020, 11:47:43 AM- This sounds more like F minor than C minor to me.
I understand where you're coming from, but I'm just not feeling F minor. The song is somewhat tonally ambiguous, which doesn't help matters.

Quote from: Static on August 20, 2020, 11:47:43 AM- Grace note in m8 should have a slur.
Done

Quote from: Static on August 20, 2020, 11:47:43 AMMach Rider - Main BGM 1
- Copyright year should be 1985 since that was the original release date.
I thought we generally used the US release date? Changed regardless.

Quote from: Static on August 20, 2020, 11:47:43 AMMach Rider - Main BGM 1
- HAL Laboratory did not work on this game.
Well, it appears that the Wikipedia from a couple years ago lied to me. How rude.
Title: Re: Yug Guy's Replacements
Post by: Static on August 21, 2020, 07:58:20 PM
Quote from: Yug_Guy on August 21, 2020, 05:37:00 PMI understand where you're coming from, but I'm just not feeling F minor. The song is somewhat tonally ambiguous, which doesn't help matters.
Fair enough, I'm fine leaving it then.

Quote from: Yug_Guy on August 21, 2020, 05:37:00 PMI thought we generally used the US release date? Changed regardless.
We usually go by first release date, whatever country that happens to be.

And with that, I'll accept.
Title: Re: Yug Guy's Replacements
Post by: Latios212 on August 23, 2020, 05:14:19 PM
Secret of Mana - The Color of the Summer Sky
- In measures 8, 16, and 24 I would recommend restriking the C as part of the second layer instead of tying it over in the first layer. The contour of the lower layer is changed currently (dips down instead of up).
- Related, the all the parentheses on the F notes in m. 27-28 are confusing because it's unclear whether they should be played or not. I'd recommend being explicit and removing the parentheses on those notes (except for m. 27 beat 1) to indicate they should be re-struck.
- Raise the eighth rests in m. 21/15 a little bit.
- I would recommend spacing out the staves a bit more in m. 22/26 instead of shortening the stems. I think a better goal to aim for is consistent spacing between the symbols on the staff rather than spacing between that staves. Look at how a spacing of 1.2 makes the m. 26 system look squished but the m. 29 system look a little too open.
- The p at the beginning of m. 29 should be centered between the staves.
- There's a random E under the left hand G at the end of m. 32/36, that I think would be worth including.

Quote from: Static on June 23, 2020, 01:14:56 PMColor of the Summer Sky
In m29, 31, 33, and 35 beat 2.5 RH, the dyad should be F-A, not A-C.[/li][/list]
This caught me off guard, I definitely hear the C as originally written in. But it sounds like all three notes are actually present...
Title: Re: Yug Guy's Replacements
Post by: Static on August 23, 2020, 05:46:44 PM
Quote from: Latios212 on August 23, 2020, 05:14:19 PMThis caught me off guard, I definitely hear the C as originally written in. But it sounds like all three notes are actually present...
There is a C there, but it's played by the piano, not the flutes. I don't think it makes sense to put it in the melody part even if the ranges are the same because it's inconsistent; why should only that one note be there? It gets in the way of the actual melody because on a piano, that register has one sound only - the piano sound.

Edit: It's easier to hear in this (https://youtu.be/g52OPVDvyxM) video; same orchestration but different samples (real instruments vs digital).
Title: Re: Yug Guy's Replacements
Post by: Latios212 on August 23, 2020, 05:54:31 PM
Oh gotcha! Yeah that makes sense; I'm not too familiar with this song so I was a little confused picking apart the different lines. Makes sense as is then.

(great video/channel btw)
Title: Re: Yug Guy's Replacements
Post by: Yug_Guy on August 25, 2020, 07:24:43 PM
Quote from: Latios212 on August 23, 2020, 05:14:19 PMSecret of Mana - The Color of the Summer Sky
- In measures 8, 16, and 24 I would recommend restriking the C as part of the second layer instead of tying it over in the first layer. The contour of the lower layer is changed currently (dips down instead of up).
- Related, the all the parentheses on the F notes in m. 27-28 are confusing because it's unclear whether they should be played or not. I'd recommend being explicit and removing the parentheses on those notes (except for m. 27 beat 1) to indicate they should be re-struck.
- Raise the eighth rests in m. 21/15 a little bit.
- I would recommend spacing out the staves a bit more in m. 22/26 instead of shortening the stems. I think a better goal to aim for is consistent spacing between the symbols on the staff rather than spacing between that staves. Look at how a spacing of 1.2 makes the m. 26 system look squished but the m. 29 system look a little too open.
- The p at the beginning of m. 29 should be centered between the staves.
- There's a random E under the left hand G at the end of m. 32/36, that I think would be worth including.
This caught me off guard, I definitely hear the C as originally written in. But it sounds like all three notes are actually present...
Fixed.
Title: Re: Yug Guy's Replacements
Post by: Latios212 on August 25, 2020, 08:52:01 PM
Secret of Mana - The Color of the Summer Sky

Great! Just a last couple tiny things I noticed, that I'm adjusting in your newest file:

Quote from: Latios212 on August 23, 2020, 05:14:19 PM- Related, the all the parentheses on the F notes in m. 27-28 are confusing because it's unclear whether they should be played or not. I'd recommend being explicit and removing the parentheses on those notes (except for m. 27 beat 1) to indicate they should be re-struck.
Forgot to mention m. 21/25 beat 3 have the same problem, removed the parentheses there

Quote from: Latios212 on August 23, 2020, 05:14:19 PM- Raise the eighth rests in m. 21/15 a little bit.
Bumped them up a tiny bit more to be on the same horizontal level as the layer 1 notes

Quote from: Latios212 on August 23, 2020, 05:14:19 PM- I would recommend spacing out the staves a bit more in m. 22/26 instead of shortening the stems. I think a better goal to aim for is consistent spacing between the symbols on the staff rather than spacing between that staves. Look at how a spacing of 1.2 makes the m. 26 system look squished but the m. 29 system look a little too open.
I also decreased the space between staves in the last two systems, and used the extra space to give the header a little more breathing room.

With that, accepting ^^
Title: Re: Yug Guy's Replacements
Post by: Static on September 06, 2020, 11:23:26 AM
Goldeneye 007 - Opening Theme
- m2 beat 4 RH should look like beats 1 and 4 of m1; it's a triplet.
- The melody starting at m31 sounds like it should have grace notes on pretty much every note.
- The grace note on beat 2.5 of m37 RH should be 2 grace notes, Bn and An. Also applies to m45 RH.
- All those grace notes should have a slur connecting them to the main note (just the first note is good, ignore any ties).
- Copyright info, page numbers, and page titles are outside the margins.

Goldeneye 007 - Watch (Pause Menu)
- If you want, you can try to include that kick drum rhythm in the LH, but whole notes are fine too.
- Copyright info is outside the margins.
Title: Re: Yug Guy's Replacements
Post by: Yug_Guy on September 10, 2020, 04:29:21 PM
Quote from: Static on September 06, 2020, 11:23:26 AM- The melody starting at m31 sounds like it should have grace notes on pretty much every note.
Technically, yes. But, I feel like having a grace note for every note would get annoying really fast.


Quote from: Static on September 06, 2020, 11:23:26 AM- If you want, you can try to include that kick drum rhythm in the LH, but whole notes are fine too.
I'll leave it now. The arrangement lends itself for additional ornamentation should the performer decide to.

Everything else should be fixed.
Title: Re: Yug Guy's Replacements
Post by: Static on September 14, 2020, 09:33:45 AM
Quote from: Yug_Guy on September 10, 2020, 04:29:21 PMTechnically, yes. But, I feel like having a grace note for every note would get annoying really fast.
Fair enough lol

Quote from: Yug_Guy on September 10, 2020, 04:29:21 PMI'll leave it now. The arrangement lends itself for additional ornamentation should the performer decide to.
Sounds good.

Both have been approved
Title: Re: Yug Guy's Replacements
Post by: Static on September 20, 2020, 04:35:55 PM
Hey, sorry, one last thing here I didn't catch before. According to Wikipedia, the Eye in GoldenEye should be capitalized, and it appears like it should be on the boxart as well. You should change the titles on your sheets to reflect that.
Title: Re: Yug Guy's Replacements
Post by: Maelstrom on November 18, 2020, 01:27:07 PM
The Great Pyramid
This song desperately needs some articulations. Places like m6 LH just don't sound the same with the slur-staccato pattern. Other suggestions include a dotted tenuto for b2 of LH m4 and and staccatos for the RH.

notes look great all around.
Title: Re: Yug Guy's Replacements
Post by: Maelstrom on December 09, 2020, 09:31:20 AM
Bonus Game Victory
Perhaps combine the quarter rests in the finale measure? The rest looks great.

Buttville
Notes all look great.
Missing a " on the running title.
Running title and page number are at a different height on the final page
I'd recommend following the conventions on 8th beaming (only in sets of 4 when all on the beat and no rests), but the beaming of stuff like b1-2 of m18 and 3-4 of m33 is something I strongly recommend changing, at the very least.
Not sure what's going on with the layers/beam orientation in m45 and 47 but I don't like it.
Dynamics in m41 and m45 are slightly off of center in different directions and it's bothering me.

Opening theme
something about beaming over rests. there's no rest-8th-8th-rest so it's at least somewhat easier to parse but I'll still say it.
Why does it end with a D.S. when there's no S? It's placement also feels rather high
m31 LH - I hear the bass guitar coming in on b1.5 here. Unsure if a restrike, but it feels like an intentionally delayed entry.
m31-46 RH - I hear all top notes equally bended up, why are only some marked with grace notes?
m32 LH - b4.5 is a B. Same in similar places.
m44-46 RH - the top layer here is completely different from m36-38.
Maybe move the LH 8vb text closer to the LH?
While it's up to you, some dynamics could spice this up nicely esp to give a good change between m46 and 47.
Other than this, it looks pretty great.
edit: also move the composer/arranger lines closer together
Title: Re: Yug Guy's Replacements
Post by: Yug_Guy on December 09, 2020, 05:11:33 PM
Quote from: Maelstrom on November 18, 2020, 01:27:07 PMThe Great Pyramid
This song desperately needs some articulations. Places like m6 LH just don't sound the same with the slur-staccato pattern. Other suggestions include a dotted tenuto for b2 of LH m4 and and staccatos for the RH.
I don't think the R.H. are staccato. I think they're somewhere in-between non-articulated and staccato. If you know what kind of articulation would be good for that, I would love to hear it.

Quote from: Maelstrom on December 09, 2020, 09:31:20 AMBonus Game Victory
Perhaps combine the quarter rests in the finale measure? The rest looks great.
Done

Quote from: Maelstrom on December 09, 2020, 09:31:20 AMBonus Game Victory
Perhaps combine the quarter rests in the finale measure? The rest looks great.

Buttville
I'd recommend following the conventions on 8th beaming (only in sets of 4 when all on the beat and no rests), but the beaming of stuff like b1-2 of m18 and 3-4 of m33 is something I strongly recommend changing, at the very least.
I tried it. See what you think

Quote from: Maelstrom on December 09, 2020, 09:31:20 AMOpening theme
something about beaming over rests. there's no rest-8th-8th-rest so it's at least somewhat easier to parse but I'll still say it.
Not sure what you're referring to here? Unless you just mean that there's general clutter, which I agree there is.

Quote from: Maelstrom on December 09, 2020, 09:31:20 AMm31-46 RH - I hear all top notes equally bended up, why are only some marked with grace notes?
Quote from: Yug_Guy on September 10, 2020, 04:29:21 PMBut, I feel like having a grace note for every note would get annoying really fast.

Quote from: Maelstrom on December 09, 2020, 09:31:20 AMm31 LH - I hear the bass guitar coming in on b1.5 here. Unsure if a restrike, but it feels like an intentionally delayed entry.
Nah, I definitely hear it on beat 1.

Quote from: Static on September 20, 2020, 04:35:55 PMAccording to Wikipedia, the Eye in GoldenEye should be capitalized, and it appears like it should be on the boxart as well. You should change the titles on your sheets to reflect that.
Done.

Everything else not directly addressed here should be fixed.
Title: Re: Yug Guy's Replacements
Post by: Maelstrom on December 09, 2020, 05:34:25 PM
Quote from: Yug_Guy on December 09, 2020, 05:11:33 PMI don't think the R.H. are staccato. I think they're somewhere in-between non-articulated and staccato. If you know what kind of articulation would be good for that, I would love to hear it.
Quote from: Maelstrom on November 18, 2020, 01:27:07 PMThe Great Pyramid
dotted tenuto
slurred staccato also works. If you don't want either, that's fine too I guess.

Bonus Victory
You didn't combine the rests?

Buttville
Did you change any beaming aside from 18? Not sure if I'm missing something or not. You aren't compelled to by any means, but I'm not sure what was tried here.

Opening theme
I mean this:
(https://i.fiery.me/2DOf4.jpg)
could look like this:
(https://i.fiery.me/1JuIn.jpg)
Up to you to keep or fix tho, I could see this going either way.
Reset the rest heights on b2.5 of m7 and the like. not sure why they're so low.
Title: Re: Yug Guy's Replacements
Post by: Yug_Guy on December 14, 2020, 05:32:25 PM
Quote from: Maelstrom on December 09, 2020, 05:34:25 PMThe Great Pyramid
dotted tenuto
Done.

Quote from: Maelstrom on December 09, 2020, 05:34:25 PMBonus Victory
You didn't combine the rests?
I already did. At least, it shows as being combined on my copy.

Quote from: Maelstrom on December 09, 2020, 05:34:25 PMButtville
Did you change any beaming aside from 18? Not sure if I'm missing something or not. You aren't compelled to by any means, but I'm not sure what was tried here.
I see what you mean now. That sort of beaming doesn't really bother me. But, no harm no foul.

Quote from: Maelstrom on December 09, 2020, 05:34:25 PMOpening theme
I mean this:
(https://i.fiery.me/2DOf4.jpg)
could look like this:
(https://i.fiery.me/1JuIn.jpg)
Up to you to keep or fix tho, I could see this going either way.
Reset the rest heights on b2.5 of m7 and the like. not sure why they're so low.
Done & done.
Title: Re: Yug Guy's Replacements
Post by: Maelstrom on December 14, 2020, 08:39:17 PM
Bonus Victor
Idk why it wasn't showing up, but it's fine now.
Approved.

Great Pyramid
Approved. I think the dotted tenudos work really nicely here honestly.

Buttville
Approved

Opening Theme
You missed m4+5 LH so I made them like the others.
Same for the final page.
I also adjusted 1st layer rest heights in m27-30 LH.
I made the changes for you, lemme know if you like them and then I'll accept.
Title: Re: Yug Guy's Replacements
Post by: Yug_Guy on December 14, 2020, 08:46:57 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/ZdjKn2X.jpg)
Title: Re: Yug Guy's Replacements
Post by: Maelstrom on December 14, 2020, 08:56:10 PM
accept
Title: Re: Yug Guy's Replacements
Post by: Static on December 15, 2020, 12:26:58 PM
Endless Mine
Title: Re: Yug Guy's Replacements
Post by: Latios212 on December 15, 2020, 03:24:07 PM
Great Pyramid
this good

Quote from: Yug_Guy on December 14, 2020, 08:46:57 PM(https://i.imgur.com/ZdjKn2X.jpg)



Bonus Game Victory / Boss Defeated Jingle
Notes are good for this one but the way it's written is super awkward at this speed. A couple of options:
- Use cross-staff brackets where feasible (this still leaves some wide intervals in m. 1 beat 3 and m. 2 beat 3)
- (My recommendation) condense the two lower voices into one for simplicity since most of the awkward intervals octave double the higher or lower note and do not add anything harmonically:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401094846107877377/788557878436560926/unknown.png
Title: Re: Yug Guy's Replacements
Post by: Yug_Guy on December 15, 2020, 05:58:17 PM
Quote from: Static on December 15, 2020, 12:26:58 PMEndless Mine
  • For that rhythm starting in m2 RH, the first 8th note sounds like it should also be staccato.
  • Consider inverting the dyads in Layer 2 in m18-21 and 29-31, unless you want the player to hold down the pedal or something.
Done

Quote from: Latios212 on December 15, 2020, 03:24:07 PM- (My recommendation) condense the two lower voices into one for simplicity since most of the awkward intervals octave double the higher or lower note and do not add anything harmonically:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401094846107877377/788557878436560926/unknown.png
I'm all for simplifying this arrangement. You can go ahead and use this version.
Title: Re: Yug Guy's Replacements
Post by: Latios212 on December 15, 2020, 07:56:28 PM
Bonus something something
Quote from: Yug_Guy on December 15, 2020, 05:58:17 PMI'm all for simplifying this arrangement. You can go ahead and use this version.
it do be done
Title: Re: Yug Guy's Replacements
Post by: Static on December 15, 2020, 09:35:16 PM
Endless Mine
Quote from: Yug_Guy on December 15, 2020, 05:58:17 PMDone
Looks awesome, approved
Title: Re: Yug Guy's Replacements
Post by: Maelstrom on December 19, 2020, 10:07:14 AM
Endless Mines
RH:
-m5/9 b1.5 - lowest note here is a G, not an A
-I think there's a restrike on b1 of m11/15
-m21 - b3.5 chord - top note should be an F#, not a C.
-m23 b4.5 - I hear a 8th note on C here, no 16th on D on b4.75
-m24 b1 - I recommend a staccato here
-m33 I think there should be some rests here after the 16th notes ....
LH:
m27:
(https://i.fiery.me/LG81o.jpg)
-Maybe lower 1st layer rests to a normal height in m33?

And that's all; nice sheet
Title: Re: Yug Guy's Replacements
Post by: Static on December 19, 2020, 11:37:21 AM
Buttville
Title: Re: Yug Guy's Replacements
Post by: Yug_Guy on December 20, 2020, 10:17:52 AM
Quote from: Maelstrom on December 19, 2020, 10:07:14 AMEndless Mines
RH:
-m5/9 b1.5 - lowest note here is a G, not an A
-I think there's a restrike on b1 of m11/15
-m21 - b3.5 chord - top note should be an F#, not a C.
-m23 b4.5 - I hear a 8th note on C here, no 16th on D on b4.75
-m24 b1 - I recommend a staccato here
-m33 I think there should be some rests here after the 16th notes ....
LH:
m27:
(https://i.fiery.me/LG81o.jpg)
-Maybe lower 1st layer rests to a normal height in m33?
All done.

Quote from: Static on December 19, 2020, 11:37:21 AMButtville
  • Watch your staccato placement for RH Layer 1. Since most of the time you have 2 separate layers going on, I would suggest moving all staccatos above the notes instead of below.
I think it's pretty clear which notes the staccatos belong to, so there shouldn't be any confusion on the performer's part. All your other stuff has been fixed.
Title: Re: Yug Guy's Replacements
Post by: Static on December 20, 2020, 10:35:13 AM
Quote from: Yug_Guy on December 20, 2020, 10:17:52 AMI think it's pretty clear which notes the staccatos belong to, so there shouldn't be any confusion on the performer's part. All your other stuff has been fixed.
I agree with that, but some of the staccato placements are still inconsistent. Why are they below the notes in m13 but above in m14, when both layers are in the same ranges? Other than that, looks good
Title: Re: Yug Guy's Replacements
Post by: Maelstrom on December 20, 2020, 01:14:23 PM
Endless Mine is accepted
Title: Re: Yug Guy's Replacements
Post by: Maelstrom on December 20, 2020, 02:51:32 PM
Watch (Pause Menu) is accepted
Title: Re: Yug Guy's Replacements
Post by: Yug_Guy on December 20, 2020, 03:00:21 PM
Quote from: Static on December 20, 2020, 10:35:13 AMI agree with that, but some of the staccato placements are still inconsistent. Why are they below the notes in m13 but above in m14, when both layers are in the same ranges? Other than that, looks good
I suppose that makes sense. Fixed.
Title: Re: Yug Guy's Replacements
Post by: Static on December 20, 2020, 04:05:01 PM
Quote from: Yug_Guy on December 20, 2020, 03:00:21 PMI suppose that makes sense. Fixed.
Looks great, I shall accept now

Edit: Looks like that was your last one too, so I'll be archiving this thread also