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Title: [PS1] Final Fantasy IX - "Roses of May" by SlimyWyvern
Post by: Zeta on November 19, 2020, 10:02:41 AM
Submission Information:

Series: Final Fantasy
Game: Final Fantasy IX
Console: PlayStation
Title: Roses of May
Instrumentation Solo Piano
Arranger: SlimyWyvern (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=4877)

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Title: Re: [PS1] Final Fantasy IX - "Rose of May" by SlimyWyvern
Post by: SlimyWyvern on November 19, 2020, 10:03:04 AM
Title: Re: [PS1] Final Fantasy IX - "Rose of May" by SlimyWyvern
Post by: Khunjund on November 19, 2020, 03:10:53 PM
Hello! Seems like a pretty accurate arrangement to me. Just a few things:

I made a document (https://www.dropbox.com/s/cwf9ks0558aup8x/Roses%20of%20May%20%28Edit%29.musx?dl=1) with all the above changes, if you want to compare. (I really should have made an image with both pages side by side, but I didn't know how to do it, so I apologize for that.)
Title: Re: [PS1] Final Fantasy IX - "Rose of May" by SlimyWyvern
Post by: SlimyWyvern on November 20, 2020, 09:52:22 AM
Alright, thanks for the suggestions!

Weird, I've usually seen it as "Rose of May" but you are right that the official name of the track has it as plural.

Sorry if I sound dumb but, what's a character indication? I assume that has something to do with the tempo marking?

I barely even hear it going up to the G myself, but what you said about the melody makes sense. I've made all the other changes you pointed out, so it should look a bit neater now.
Title: Re: [PS1] Final Fantasy IX - "Rose of May" by SlimyWyvern
Post by: Khunjund on November 20, 2020, 11:28:16 AM
A character indication is a word or short phrase placed before the metronome marking (and elsewhere) which gives a brief description of how to interpret the piece's rhythm and mood. This can either be one of the "generic" indications (andante, moderato, allegro, presto, etc.), or a more personalized description (e.g. "Very lively and with great vigour", at the start of Chabrier's Bourrée Fantasque). It doesn't have to be in Italian, but in my opinion, there are two important things to keep in mind:

First, the indication should apply to the entire section of music it encompasses. That is to say, if you have a piece which starts out fast, but has a slower choral-style section later on, you shouldn't simply write "Lively" at the beginning and leave it at that; it would be better to a) give a second character indication at the start of the second section, or b) come up with a broader indication of character that applies to both sections. (This shouldn't be necessary here, but I thought I should mention it anyway.)

Second, the indication should be clear even for someone who knows nothing about the piece (or even the game the piece comes from). I'll bring up an example from this site: someone submitted a sheet with the character indication "Breathe". This was because the main character from the game suffered from asthma attacks, and by the time this piece plays (it was the ending theme), they have subsided. In essence, what the submitter wanted to say was that the piece should be played calmly and freely, but at first I thought it meant to use a lot of rubato (e.g. take "breaths" between phrases), since I didn't have the context. After learning his intentions, I suggested that he write instead "Calmly and freely", or something else to that effect, which is descriptive even if you don't know anything about the game.

For reference, the Piano Collections: Final Fantasy IX version of "Roses of May" has andantino.
Title: Re: [PS1] Final Fantasy IX - "Roses of May" by SlimyWyvern
Post by: SlimyWyvern on November 22, 2020, 09:37:54 AM
Thanks for explaining, I've added an andantino expression next to the tempo marking so it has something there. Let me know if there are any other changes I should make.
Title: Re: [PS1] Final Fantasy IX - "Roses of May" by SlimyWyvern
Post by: Maelstrom on November 24, 2020, 03:55:00 PM
-RH m1 b1 - the e-g third here should be a c-e. Also in m5
-mp should be more centered in m1

Why not have the left hand take over the last half of the measure in m32 and m39? It's perfectly capable of doing so and would be easier to play and have less ledger lines.

Otherwise it looks pretty great, nice job.
Title: Re: [PS1] Final Fantasy IX - "Roses of May" by SlimyWyvern
Post by: Latios212 on November 25, 2020, 09:03:51 AM
Quote from: Maelstrom on November 24, 2020, 03:55:00 PMWhy not have the left hand take over the last half of the measure in m32 and m39? It's perfectly capable of doing so and would be easier to play and have less ledger lines.
Note sure what you mean here; did you mean RH and m. 40 instead of 39? If so, that makes sense to me

Other stuff in addition to Mael's comments:
- The octave D in m. 4 would be easier played by the left hand.
- Up to you, but the end of m. 24 would be a good place to put a double barline if you want to.

That's all, nice work!
Title: Re: [PS1] Final Fantasy IX - "Roses of May" by SlimyWyvern
Post by: SlimyWyvern on November 25, 2020, 09:32:45 AM
Thanks! I've made the changes now.
Title: Re: [PS1] Final Fantasy IX - "Roses of May" by SlimyWyvern
Post by: Maelstrom on November 25, 2020, 09:49:15 AM
Sorry if I wasn't clear. M1 and m5 should look like this:
(https://i.fiery.me/VhOwN.jpg)

And yes I meant m40. Counting is hard; thanks latios
Title: Re: [PS1] Final Fantasy IX - "Roses of May" by SlimyWyvern
Post by: Latios212 on November 25, 2020, 10:13:19 AM
Quote from: Maelstrom on November 25, 2020, 09:49:15 AMSorry if I wasn't clear. M1 and m5 should look like this:
(https://i.fiery.me/VhOwN.jpg)
I thought it was that but with the E an octave lower

Quote from: Maelstrom on November 25, 2020, 09:49:15 AMAnd yes I meant m40. Counting is hard; thanks latios
Haha no worries
Title: Re: [PS1] Final Fantasy IX - "Roses of May" by SlimyWyvern
Post by: SlimyWyvern on November 26, 2020, 10:31:11 AM
Quote from: Maelstrom on November 25, 2020, 09:49:15 AMSorry if I wasn't clear. M1 and m5 should look like this:
(https://i.fiery.me/VhOwN.jpg)

And yes I meant m40. Counting is hard; thanks latios

Ah, see that was my first thought, but I changed it based on what Khunjund had said about the upper voice going up to G. Should it be C-E then?
Title: Re: [PS1] Final Fantasy IX - "Roses of May" by SlimyWyvern
Post by: Maelstrom on November 26, 2020, 10:48:24 AM
I strongly disagree with Khunjund there. If you want, we can see what Lat things about it.
Title: Re: [PS1] Final Fantasy IX - "Roses of May" by SlimyWyvern
Post by: Latios212 on November 26, 2020, 10:54:48 AM
Oh, I see what you were getting at now. The G up top seems pretty faint compared to the notes under it, especially in m. 5.

I was suggesting this based on what stands out to me when listening to the original:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401094846107877377/781593615213527060/unknown.png
Title: Re: [PS1] Final Fantasy IX - "Roses of May" by SlimyWyvern
Post by: Maelstrom on November 26, 2020, 11:04:55 AM
Idk, I'm positive the top note is the E.

The more I listen to it, the more I hear an E in both places, above and below.
Title: Re: [PS1] Final Fantasy IX - "Roses of May" by SlimyWyvern
Post by: Static on November 26, 2020, 11:17:41 AM
In m1 and 5 I hear the low and high E (E4 and E5), along with C5 and G5; that is to say I hear all the notes you guys are talking about. I think the best way to write it would be to have the LH play the low E (it's a bit of a stretch but definitely possible), while the RH plays C-E-G.
Title: Re: [PS1] Final Fantasy IX - "Roses of May" by SlimyWyvern
Post by: SlimyWyvern on November 26, 2020, 01:45:21 PM
So, I wrote it how Static said, with the C-E-G in the right hand and low E in the left. I think it's a bit of a stretch, at least for me, but it does sound a lot nicer. Hopefully it should be good now.
Title: Re: [PS1] Final Fantasy IX - "Roses of May" by SlimyWyvern
Post by: Maelstrom on November 26, 2020, 02:46:34 PM
I  approve
Title: Re: [PS1] Final Fantasy IX - "Roses of May" by SlimyWyvern
Post by: Latios212 on November 26, 2020, 02:48:02 PM
as do I :P
Title: Re: [PS1] Final Fantasy IX - "Roses of May" by SlimyWyvern
Post by: Zeta on November 26, 2020, 02:48:06 PM
This submission has been accepted by Latios212 (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=4344).

~Zeta, your friendly NSM-Bot