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Title: Fantastic Ike's Halloween Sheet - Plants vs. Zombies [PC] "Main Menu"
Post by: Fantastic Ike on October 03, 2022, 10:51:51 AM
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Title: Re: Fantastic Ike's Halloween Sheet - Plants vs. Zombies [PC] "Main Menu"
Post by: Fantastic Ike on October 03, 2022, 10:57:11 AM
Wouldn't you know it, ran into this issue RIGHT after I posted. So this link (https://youtu.be/KtCzYn4I3HE) lists the track as "Crazy Dave" and the record scratch apparently loops the song back to the beginning? I'll change all of these things once I get feedback on the sheet, but wanted to bring this up now.
Title: Re: Fantastic Ike's Halloween Sheet - Plants vs. Zombies [PC] "Main Menu"
Post by: Bloop on October 03, 2022, 01:14:48 PM
I think this one is probably the exact track you're looking for:
So the title should be Crazy Dave (Intro Theme), which corresponds to this (https://vgmdb.net/album/22051) listing as well. The In-Game version is just extra proof that it loops back to the beginning haha.
Title: Re: Fantastic Ike's Halloween Sheet - Plants vs. Zombies [PC] "Main Menu"
Post by: Fantastic Ike on October 03, 2022, 01:32:41 PM
In my rush to finish this piece, I wasn't as vigilant as usual with the track naming. Apologies, hopefully this is all cleared up now.
Title: Re: Fantastic Ike's Halloween Sheet - Plants vs. Zombies [PC] "Main Menu"
Post by: Static on October 16, 2022, 11:55:10 AM
If you have any questions let me know. This piece is short, but very dense.
Title: Re: Fantastic Ike's Halloween Sheet - Plants vs. Zombies [PC] "Main Menu"
Post by: Fantastic Ike on October 17, 2022, 06:42:23 AM
Sorry, this one was a bit sloppy

Quotem13-20 RH: The background organ part only plays on downbeats (I'm not hearing those additional notes on beats 2.5/4.5). Also the chords remain the same throughout each measure. The progression is Gm-Cm-D7-Gm.

You'd think I'd be better at chord progressions by now but oh well. Tried to voice them in a way that doesn't obscure the melody

Quotem21/25 RH Layer 2: These background chords sound like F-G (part of a Dm11 chord).

Uh I tried voicing this but it sounds hella crunchy. Lemme know if you have a better option here

But I think that's everything. Updated in Dropbox
Title: Re: Fantastic Ike's Halloween Sheet - Plants vs. Zombies [PC] "Main Menu"
Post by: Static on October 24, 2022, 08:44:44 AM
Looking much better now, but still more stuff to go over:

- Swap the layers in m1/3 and 9/11 so they look like m5/7; it's all the same part.
- Hide or combine rests to make things simpler when you can. m1 and 3 RH, you can hide the half rest on beat 3 without an issue, for example. m5 LH you can combine the rests on beat 4 since both layers share the same rest.
- m5 RH move the quarter rest on beat 4 above the notes (remember, you cannot see the layer colors on a PDF, so things should look crystal clear in just black and white). You can also just hide both quarter rests and the differing layers will be parsed easily by simply the lack of beaming across beats 3-4.
- Unless you want rolls or pedal usage, try to avoid intervals larger than an octave in parts with a lot of movement, like m13-17 RH.
- m19 and similar: My bad here, I meant LH here:
(https://i.imgur.com/F7ZJxk2.png)
- m21/25 RH Layer 2: Again, my bad, it's a Gm7 chord, but just keep the G. I agree F gets in the way here.
- m24 RH Layer 1: The dots are touching the 2nd layer; just move them all one space above where they currently are with the Dot Tool.
- m32 RH: Flip the grace note slur up, since it's on the top layer.
- m36 RH Layer 2: Beat 3 should be a half note instead of a quarter note.
Title: Re: Fantastic Ike's Halloween Sheet - Plants vs. Zombies [PC] "Main Menu"
Post by: Fantastic Ike on October 25, 2022, 07:04:04 AM
Think that's everything. Lemme know if 13-17 looks better now
Title: Re: Fantastic Ike's Halloween Sheet - Plants vs. Zombies [PC] "Main Menu"
Post by: Static on October 25, 2022, 06:23:40 PM
Quote from: Static on October 24, 2022, 08:44:44 AM- Swap the layers in m1/3 and 9/11 so they look like m5/7; it's all the same part.
Meant the RH here, although looking at it again I think it's fine if you just wanna keep it the way you have it.

The other changes look great, I would just unhide the 8th rest at the beginning of m31 RH. Also you should move the 8th rest in m33 RH down a bit so it's not colliding with the note.

Title: Re: Fantastic Ike's Halloween Sheet - Plants vs. Zombies [PC] "Main Menu"
Post by: Fantastic Ike on October 26, 2022, 06:02:23 AM
Sure thing, updated.
Title: Re: Fantastic Ike's Halloween Sheet - Plants vs. Zombies [PC] "Main Menu"
Post by: Static on October 26, 2022, 03:14:26 PM
Looks good. Last couple things I noticed was the whole note in m5 RH Layer 3 (intersecting stem), and m30 LH beats 1-2 should be flipped down because of the cross-staffing. I'll approve pending those changes.
Title: Re: Fantastic Ike's Halloween Sheet - Plants vs. Zombies [PC] "Main Menu"
Post by: Fantastic Ike on October 27, 2022, 06:00:14 AM
Sure thing. Slightly offset one of the staccatos on m30 LH so it doesn't bump up against the stem, hope that doesn't look offputting
Title: Re: Fantastic Ike's Halloween Sheet - Plants vs. Zombies [PC] "Main Menu"
Post by: Bloop on October 27, 2022, 06:26:55 AM
-m7: Maybe you could move the L.H. notes on beat 4-4.5 down an octave, so they're in the same octave as the other notes from that same line?
-m13 and 18: Maybe you could write the R.H. here like this:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/863709312067829811/1035178986965311599/unknown.png
The top layer is what I hear in the melody, and I moved the other line partly to the second layer. You could still add the G and D on beat 1 and 2 to the 2nd layer too though.
-m19 and 27: The R.H. here sounds legato to me
-m15: You could add parentheses around the R.H. C in beat 4, since it's also played by the L.H.
-m20: C on beat 4.5 should be a D.
-m21 and 35: I hear F's in the chords here too, maybe you could write the R.H. here like this then:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/863709312067829811/1035180340723068948/unknown.png
-m24: The dots from the dotted quarter note in the R.H. on beat 1 appear on the staff lines (at least in my version of finale), those should be in the spaces between the lines like this:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/863709312067829811/1035180708597092352/unknown.png
-m30: Maybe instead of writing out the 16th run here, you could write out the main melody in 8ths, and imitate the 16th run with offbeat notes (kinda like this, though you might wanna recheck if the 16th notes are somewhat akin to the original 16th note run)
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/863709312067829811/1035182409521569892/unknown.png
-m35: The C in the R.H. from m36 is already here on beat 4.5
Title: Re: Fantastic Ike's Halloween Sheet - Plants vs. Zombies [PC] "Main Menu"
Post by: Fantastic Ike on October 27, 2022, 07:17:11 AM
Fixed. Think it's all good now
Title: Re: Fantastic Ike's Halloween Sheet - Plants vs. Zombies [PC] "Main Menu"
Post by: Bloop on October 28, 2022, 03:31:00 AM
Great! A few tiny things left:
-Maybe you could edit the font of the decay text to Times New Roman, which is the standard font Finale uses for all technique and expressive text.
-Finale doesn't recognize accidentals in one layer as affecting ones in another layer for some reason, so you'll need to force show the naturals on the F's in the R.H., beat 4.5 of m13, 17, 21 and 25, and force hide the sharps on the F# in the R.H. on beat 3 of m15.
-For m19 you could also use a slur, or no slurs and no articulations for the R.H. to indicate the legato. I think my preference goes to no slurs/articulations, since you haven't used them in the rest of the sheet either.
Title: Re: Fantastic Ike's Halloween Sheet - Plants vs. Zombies [PC] "Main Menu"
Post by: Fantastic Ike on October 28, 2022, 05:40:17 AM
QuoteMaybe you could edit the font of the decay text to Times New Roman, which is the standard font Finale uses for all technique and expressive text.

Huh...odd. It was Times New Roman the whole time for me, was it not showing up that way for you?

But otherwise I think we're good here.
Title: Re: Fantastic Ike's Halloween Sheet - Plants vs. Zombies [PC] "Main Menu"
Post by: Bloop on October 28, 2022, 09:35:34 AM
The font says it's "Times New Roman Italic", which apparently isn't the same thing as Times New Roman but italicized, so my version of Finale probably doesn't have that font. I changed it to an italic Times New Roman, and changed the cautionary naturals on the F's to normal naturals, since that's what they should've been in the first place, but Finale just is weird sometimes lol. I'll accept!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/895351643024015360/906174892746108988/BloopApproves2.png