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Title: The grammar topic
Post by: dahans on October 28, 2009, 11:20:11 PM
Do you have any questions concerning grammar and you don't know where to ask? This is the right topic for it :D and it doesn't have to be English. So if you have any questions about the Ablativus Absolutus, don't hesitate to ask. The members of NSM will be happy to answer your question ;).

My first question: You need to fill in a preposition:
I made a comment ......... my friend. What's the correct prep? thx in advance
Title: Re: The grammar topic
Post by: Seeker on October 29, 2009, 04:24:46 AM
What are you trying to say? Off the top of my head, 'to', 'about', and 'for' could all work.
Title: Re: The grammar topic
Post by: KefkaticFanatic on October 29, 2009, 07:25:22 AM
No.]http://lmgtfy.com/?q=simple+grammar+rules]No. (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=simple+grammar+rules)
Title: Re: The grammar topic
Post by: GreekGeek on October 29, 2009, 09:08:16 AM
Quote from: dahans on October 28, 2009, 11:20:11 PMSo if you have any questions about the Ablativus Absolutus, don't hesitate to ask.

Long live the Ablativus Absolutus ;D
Title: Re: The grammar topic
Post by: dahans on October 29, 2009, 11:10:23 PM
Quote from: Seeker on October 29, 2009, 04:24:46 AMWhat are you trying to say? Off the top of my head, 'to', 'about', and 'for' could all work.

Thank you very much. :D
Title: Re: The grammar topic
Post by: Cobraroll on December 06, 2009, 12:37:53 PM
Bump!

Can somebody/someone briefly explain the "-one/-body"-rule? I'm tired of choosing them at random, and I suspect it will turn out wrong in most cases. In short, when to use someone/anyone/everyone, and when to use somebody/anybody/everybody.

Please?
Title: Re: The grammar topic
Post by: Seeker on December 06, 2009, 03:56:32 PM
I'm pretty sure they're interchangeable. -one is more common around these parts.
Title: Re: The grammar topic
Post by: universe-X on December 26, 2009, 02:58:22 PM
Commas? Like in listing...

Which of the two is correct?

I am getting milk, candy, eggs, and sugar. (comma after eggs)

I am getting milk, candy, eggs and sugar. (no comma after eggs)

Title: Re: The grammar topic
Post by: Seeker on December 26, 2009, 03:44:34 PM
Either one is correct now, I believe.
Title: Re: The grammar topic
Post by: Maretocks on December 26, 2009, 04:02:25 PM
What is the difference between words like burned and burnt? (I thought of more but I can't remember them now. >.<)
Title: Re: The grammar topic
Post by: Seeker on December 26, 2009, 04:14:27 PM
If you're in America you say burned, if you're in England, you say burnt. If you're in Australia, you cry because no one cares about you.

http://www.onestopenglish.com/section.asp?docid=146420
Title: Re: The grammar topic
Post by: kotorfanboy on December 26, 2009, 04:30:17 PM
If you remember those other ones, they can probably be answered with the differences between British and American spelling.

Here's a pretty comprehensive guide: http://www2.gsu.edu/~wwwesl/egw/jones/differences.htm
Title: Re: The grammar topic
Post by: universe-X on December 26, 2009, 04:41:58 PM
Quote from: Maretocks on December 26, 2009, 04:02:25 PMWhat is the difference between words like burned and burnt? (I thought of more but I can't remember them now. >.<)


In English/American ghetto grammar, burned/burnin is present tense.

"I was burned. (?)"

"You just got burned!"

ok, maybe not, it's just one of those bad tense verbs, you know what I'm talking about?

'Cuz I don't.

Burnt is completely English, apparently. And it's also a past tense verb. So you could say:

"He was burnt very badly."

or

"I burnt/BURNED myself earlier today."

^^probably a good example of using burned.

If you read these sentences aloud, and actually think about it, the word(s) burnt, burn, and burned all sound weird now. :P

On here, I'm an ELA teacher's worst nightmare.
Title: Re: The grammar topic
Post by: Cobraroll on December 27, 2009, 03:37:58 AM
How do you pronounce "buoy"?
Title: Re: The grammar topic
Post by: SuperFireKirby on December 27, 2009, 08:42:02 AM
[Boo-ey]
Quote from: universe-X on December 26, 2009, 02:58:22 PMCommas? Like in listing...

Which of the two is correct?

I am getting milk, candy, eggs, and sugar. (comma after eggs)

I am getting milk, candy, eggs and sugar. (no comma after eggs)


The top one is the correct way to list it.
Title: Re: The grammar topic
Post by: Seeker on December 27, 2009, 09:00:07 AM
Quote from: Cobraroll on December 27, 2009, 03:37:58 AMHow do you pronounce "buoy"?
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/buoy
Quote from: SuperFireKirby on December 27, 2009, 08:42:02 AM[Boo-ey]
Quote from: universe-X on December 26, 2009, 02:58:22 PMCommas? Like in listing...

Which of the two is correct?

I am getting milk, candy, eggs, and sugar. (comma after eggs)

I am getting milk, candy, eggs and sugar. (no comma after eggs)


The top one is the correct way to list it.

Depends on who you ask:
http://www.economist.com/research/styleGuide/index.cfm?page=805695
http://frwebgate1.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/TEXTgate.cgi?WAISdocID=932646522768+0+1+0&WAISaction=retrieve
http://www.ox.ac.uk/branding_toolkit/writing_and_style_guide/punctuation.html#athe_comma
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/tools_and_services/specials/style_guide/article986734.ece
Title: Re: The grammar topic
Post by: SuperFireKirby on December 27, 2009, 02:45:26 PM
Different English speaking countries many times have diffent ways to spell, pronounce, and puncuate the language.(biggest difference is usually between U.S. and UK) So yeah, it really depends on who you ask and where they're from.
Title: Re: The grammar topic
Post by: Maretocks on December 30, 2009, 04:03:33 PM
Quote from: Seeker on December 26, 2009, 04:14:27 PMIf you're in America you say burned, if you're in England, you say burnt. If you're in Australia, you cry because no one cares about you.

http://www.onestopenglish.com/section.asp?docid=146420
I may be crying right now, but it still means I can use whichever one I want!  ;D
Title: Re: The grammar topic
Post by: dahans on December 31, 2009, 01:05:32 AM
Quote from: Maretocks on December 30, 2009, 04:03:33 PM
Quote from: Seeker on December 26, 2009, 04:14:27 PMIf you're in America you say burned, if you're in England, you say burnt. If you're in Australia, you cry because no one cares about you.

http://www.onestopenglish.com/section.asp?docid=146420
I may be crying right now, but it still means I can use whichever one I want!  ;D
Is there a big difference between Australian/B and AEnglish?
Title: Re: The grammar topic
Post by: SuperFireKirby on December 31, 2009, 06:46:25 AM
Australian English is almost the same as British English, but American and British English have alot of differences. Such as the fact that many British terms for various thing send up becoming a word for homolexual in america( Gay=happy, fag= cigarette, queer= an adjective describing something odd or strange) three fairly random words all mean homosexual in the US for some reason.
Title: Re: The grammar topic
Post by: dahans on January 02, 2010, 02:05:52 PM
Quote from: SuperFireKirby on December 31, 2009, 06:46:25 AMAustralian English is almost the same as British English, but American and British English have alot of differences. Such as the fact that many British terms for various thing send up becoming a word for homolexual in america( Gay=happy, fag= cigarette, queer= an adjective describing something odd or strange) three fairly random words all mean homosexual in the US for some reason.
Wow... nice description
Title: Re: The grammar topic
Post by: SuperFireKirby on January 03, 2010, 12:36:29 PM
I'm just pointing out the oddities of language. You can find some pretty interesting words if you just read through your dictionary.
Title: Re: The grammar topic
Post by: dahans on January 04, 2010, 06:28:39 AM
Which English is the best one?
Title: Re: The grammar topic
Post by: universe-X on January 04, 2010, 10:19:37 AM
There's no such thing as the BEST one. Only the more preffered to use, which is American (I would think) since most countries learn "American English" if they were to have emmigrants come here one day.
Title: Re: The grammar topic
Post by: SuperFireKirby on January 04, 2010, 11:35:01 AM
But American English can be a bit more annoying for non-english speakers just because of how some of the grammar is.
Title: Re: The grammar topic
Post by: dahans on January 04, 2010, 01:20:57 PM
Quote from: SuperFireKirby on January 04, 2010, 11:35:01 AMBut American English can be a bit more annoying for non-english speakers just because of how some of the grammar is.
As far as I am concerned, I learn the British English in school. I spent 1 week in England and it was easy to understand. I have neither talked with an American, nor with an Australian.
Title: Re: The grammar topic
Post by: universe-X on January 04, 2010, 01:51:36 PM
Quote from: dahans on January 04, 2010, 01:20:57 PM
Quote from: SuperFireKirby on January 04, 2010, 11:35:01 AMBut American English can be a bit more annoying for non-english speakers just because of how some of the grammar is.
I have neither talked with an American, nor with an Australian.

I have neither SPOKEN with an American, nor with an Australian.
Title: Re: The grammar topic
Post by: dahans on January 05, 2010, 04:21:59 AM
Quote from: universe-X on January 04, 2010, 01:51:36 PM
Quote from: dahans on January 04, 2010, 01:20:57 PM
Quote from: SuperFireKirby on January 04, 2010, 11:35:01 AMBut American English can be a bit more annoying for non-english speakers just because of how some of the grammar is.
I have neither talked with an American, nor with an Australian.

I have neither SPOKEN with an American, nor with an Australian.
Thx a lot^^.
Title: Re: The grammar topic
Post by: dahans on January 06, 2010, 08:56:56 AM
What's the difference between economic and economical?
Title: Re: The grammar topic
Post by: universe-X on January 06, 2010, 02:44:36 PM
Quote from: dahans on January 06, 2010, 08:56:56 AMWhat's the difference between economic and economical?

*Checks dictionary*

Ah, here it is.

Economic(s) has to do with business, paying to help the "owner" of something, or the practical and theoretical science of the production and distribution of wealth.

Economical: conservative, avoiding waste. Basically anyone that really doesn't like giving money.

Hoper this helps.
Title: Re: The grammar topic
Post by: dahans on January 06, 2010, 10:15:32 PM
Thx a lot!