TWG IX: The Lantern Keeper
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It was a dark and murky night when the strange man stepped out the door from his cabin and began walking on a dirt path leading deeper through the woods. The man had lived in these woods for years innumerable, not even the ever-growing trees could remember a time when he had not lived amongst them. Though the ages passed and the trees continued to grow taller and taller, he had always lived amongst them, protecting them and watching over the rest of the woods in walks during the night. Tonight was one of those nights. With him he carried a single lantern, but not an ordinary lantern, for this particular one had a bright green light emit from it. With it, he was truly the Keeper of the Forest.
It was on this particular night that the strange man had an encounter that which he had never had before. As he walked along the path through the dark creeping and twisting trees in the night, he saw a dim red light glowing far off in the distance. The strange man paused for a moment and held his lantern up to his eye level, and wincing he peered through the luminous green light and saw what the lantern revealed. A camp site, 10 men full, all of whom were drinking and cheering and dancing the night away around a great big bonfire.
The strange man began to grin, and put the lantern out.
Meanwhile, the men far off at the camp site continued their drink and song and merry time, enjoying the isolation and security of the woods. When it became too dark to see beyond the bonfire's glow, the men began to settle in their tents. Each of the men possessed their own tent, with one pillow and a small lantern. The last of the men put out his lantern and closed his eyes and went to sleep.
The sounds of owls and other mysterious predators filled the night, as the fog set in around the camp and the men all slept cozily.
*Shuffle* *Crackle* *Snap*
A figure glided it's way through the bushes and towards the camp.
Everything fell silent.
"AHHH!!!" A man awoke screaming in his tent, and awaking the others he ran out in horror and grabbed a torch. All of the other men quickly rushed out with torches and found the man sitting in the fetal position on the ground in the middle of the camp. Puzzled, they asked him what caused his screaming in the middle of the night. The man said that he had a dream of an unknown creature that entered their camp during the night and had done something horrific beyond words.
The men felt fear rising from within, but reason got the best of their hearts, and they discarded his ill omen as a mere dream, and readily went back to sleep. No more dreams to wake them up before morning.
The fearful man stood up from the ground and picked up his torch. He peered through the trees and into the abysmal darkness. Then suddenly his torch was blown out by a magnificent gust of wind. He jump and went to grab his knife, and just as he could pull it out, he heard the shrieking howl on the night air.
A-Woooooooooo!!!!!!!!!
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What to expect this game:
Roles:
2 Werewolves: Normal Wolves
1 Master Wolf: Seered as green, but normal wolf
1 Strange Man: Purpose "unknown"
1 Seer: Sends in a PM every Night to see the color of a person's role.
5 Campers: Normal Humans.
3 Lanterns of the Night: These Lanterns are given to three random members. Holding a Lantern allows the player to know the name of the other players with Lanterns. Every Night phase, the three players with lanterns will submit one vote each to the host in order to choose one person who is currently holding a lantern to be seer'd. The person with the most votes is then seer'd. The seering results will then be sent to the other two players with lanterns who were not seer'd. A lantern can be passed to another player through a PM to the host during the Night phase only. The players with Lanterns will always know who has the other lanterns. Whether or not they allow anyone who doesn't hold a lantern to possess their knowledge is entirely up to them.
IMPORTANT RULE, READ: The Strange Man during the Night phase will send a PM to the host guessing the names of the three players with lanterns. If he is correct and guesses all three of the players' names, then all three of those players are killed and the lanterns are lost forever. The strange man is not a human. He cannot be wolfed during the night, any attempt to wolf him will fail(and result in a wasted wolfing). He can be lynched, however, and that is the only way that he can be killed. If the strange man accurately guesses the three lantern keepers, then all reds in the game will die. This does not include the Master Wolf.
The Players:
1. Mashi
2. Concerto No. 20 in D Minor
3. Universe-x
4. SlowPokemon
5. Drpamplemousse
6. Master_Gamer38
7. SuperFireKirby
8. SuperRiolu
9. Jake3343
10. Askalice23
It is now Night 1. All pms are to be sent to me. Know the rules, pm me with any questions. Night ends when all PMs are in or Thursday @ 9:00p.m. EST.
Begin.
Those are some craaaazy rules; but I think I understand.
Yeah, not too complicated, but still different enough to give the game more "spice". I like it. :)
its definitely different from the other games... seems quite interesting!
To start this off, I am a human. ;D I'll keep it at that for now.
Alright then, so we have 10 Players. As a worst case scenario:
Day 1 begins, 9 Players left.
Night 2 begins, 8 Players left.
Day 2 begins, 7 Players left.
Night 3 begins, 6 Players left.
Day 4 begins, Wolves Win.
So if worst comes to worst, we only have two Phases. As for seerings, though:
Night 1: 2/9 getting a Wolf.
Night 2: 2/7 getting a Wolf.
Night 3: 2/5 getting a Wolf.
Of course, if this follows the worst case scenario, the Seer only gets 2 Phases, not to mention the Seer may get wolfed.
There's also no Guardian in this game, so the Seer can't just come out and say when they seered someone Red. So I would suggest that they 'persuade' others to vote for a player without revealing their Role would be a nice way to get the Wolves. Also, Seer, if you get two Wolves, then I think it's safe to say you can reveal them both, since by then you won't be able to get the Master Wolf anyways.
Of course, we still have the lanterns. I'm too lazy to do any percentages, but I think that chances are likely that if they play smart that they will get one Wolf down.
There's also the issue with the Strange Man. I believe that it's beneficial for us to lose him/her, but I'll leave that open for discussion. Also, if anyone would like to chat, I'll usually be open at YIM, which is hatiyama@ymail.com
I am a human, and I have no lantern.
If that has any place here. xP
Also, I would recommend not claiming, even if you're lying. Doing so may reveal helpful information to the Strange Man and the Wolves.
...Now he tells me...
'-_-
really, Slow... sigh
im not going to say who i am... ;)
Eh, no need to worry, I doubt it's that much of a deal if only 2 people claimed Roles, it's usually when there's a massclaim that problems may occur.
... and then the game ends early and then it was no fun. That's why i didnt declare my role.
well lets start this game off vocally then.... im human go ahead and seer me.
also drp is being odd a possible strange man... my reasoning for that suspicion well just read his posts.
Hey guys, lets ignore what Mashi said without any consent.
I would think we at least discuss more thoroughly before we claimed Roles.
well, from what i saw in the last game, DrP acted strange a little in the end. He could be the Strange Man, or he could be hiding as something else
also i have aquestion about the strange man... if he guesses the 3 lantern keepers do the 2 reds die or do the 3 lantern keepers die??
Quote from: askalice23 on August 18, 2010, 06:56:43 PMalso i have aquestion about the strange man... if he guesses the 3 lantern keepers do the 2 reds die or do the 3 lantern keepers die??
its the 2 reds AND the Master Wolf.
No, I'm pretty sure it's the Light Keepers and the 2 Red Wolves.
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 18, 2010, 06:58:55 PMits the 2 reds AND the Master Wolf.
No, it's only reds that die. The master wolf is technically not a red.
Quote from: SuperFireKirby on August 18, 2010, 07:06:23 PMNo, it's only reds that die. The master wolf is technically not a red.
its not the lanturn keepers, just the two reds (after going back to look).
QuoteThe Strange Man during the Night phase will send a PM to the host guessing the names of the three players with lanterns. If he is correct and guesses all three of the players' names, then all three of those players are killed and the lanterns are lost forever. The strange man is not a human. He cannot be wolfed during the night, any attempt to wolf him will fail(and result in a wasted wolfing). He can be lynched, however, and that is the only way that he can be killed. If the strange man accurately guesses the three lantern keepers, then all reds in the game will die. This does not include the Master Wolf.
Exactly. You people need to read these things through. >_<
Quote from: Nakah on August 18, 2010, 03:33:12 PMIf he is correct and guesses all three of the players' names, then all three of those players are killed and the lanterns are lost forever. If the strange man accurately guesses the three lantern keepers, then all reds in the game will die. This does not include the Master Wolf.
Mashi gets an A+ in reading
Anyway, I think that the strange man is probably a loner, meaning he is his own team and not a human or wolf. I think that it would probably be best to kill him/her if his/her identity is found (he/she's seer'd purple, right?).
Also, everyone remember that #twg at http://www.ninsheetm.us/chat/ is great to discuss things.
If the Strange Man guesses the lantern keepers, both the lantern keepers and all reds in the game(does not include Master Wolf) are dead. This is due to an important factor for the Strange Man's role.
Quote from: jake3343 on August 18, 2010, 07:11:37 PMAnyway, I think that the strange man is probably a loner, meaning he is his own team and not a human or wolf. I think that it would probably be best to kill him/her if his/her identity is found (he/she's seer'd purple, right?).
This is not necessarily true always. It's a conditional circumstance, the color that he is seer'd as, depending on what else is going on in the game. I'll leave it at that.
Wait...can the strange man also hold a lantern?
lol, of course not. That would ruin the whole point of his role. :P
I'm also gonna put it out there that askalice seems a little anxious to get drp out of the way. Just saying...
Quote from: universe-X on August 18, 2010, 10:51:58 PMlol, of course not. That would ruin the whole point of his role. :P
I'm also gonna put it out there that askalice seems a little anxious to get drp out of the way. Just saying...
maybe it is a grudge from not really working super great in the last game, i have no idea.
lol, if that's the case, then I'll say: Whatever happens in TWG, stays in TWG.
haha no grudge it was just a weird posting. i just thought that him posting im never telling what i am was weird. not a big deal i was just pointing it out :P
I just didnt want to put my role out there... since three people (including yourself) have already revealed their roles.. this makes the game much more fun!
People need to get on IRC so we can chat it up. Maybe find a wolf or two.
Quote from: SuperFireKirby on August 19, 2010, 11:43:28 AMPeople need to get on IRC so we can chat it up. Maybe find a wolf or two.
Currently, AIM is the newer IRC.
Yes, aim > irc.
ALWAYS.
Aim is what you should be using this game, it has always been the custom at other sites where I played.
... and people insist on me using MSN... Macs dont even support it in iChat.
Fine, if anybody wants to chat it up, my AIM name is SuperFireKirby. *Gasp* So unpredictable!
I am nkonny if you want to add me...
I don't have an AIM, I'm going to be in IRC if any of you need me.
You don't even need to download it anymore it turns out. Which is nice.
Quote from: universe-X on August 19, 2010, 01:17:09 PMI don't have an AIM, I'm going to be in IRC if any of you need me.
you can just go to AIM.com, register, and then access it from that website... if you have a Mac, its built in to iChat
Oh, btw...
Quote from: Nakah on August 18, 2010, 03:33:12 PMIt is now Night 1. All pms are to be sent to me. Know the rules, pm me with any questions. Night ends when all PMs are in or Thursday @ 9:00p.m. EST.
Finally, back to good ol' EST...
That MDT thing was bugging me.
MDT was fine, but EDT is fine, since its a perfect third away from here...
and it should be EDT, not EST, Nakah.
Isn't it Eastern Standard Time? :P
not until October!
Also, night is over.
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I wonder who died... it was probably random, since its the first night and people are settling into their roles
It is probably either someone with alot of experience, or me. The world tends to work that way.
Or, they might kill the new guy, just to get me out of the way
I don't think they would do that... well maybe, theyre different wolves this time. I wasnt lynched in the last game until my identity was found, so that was that
The men awoke the next morning to a fowl smelling corpse in the middle of the campsite. Right there in his shoes laid Concerto, mauled to shreds by an apparent predator with razor sharp fangs. The men gasped in horror, and some threw up. One guy even passed out, but we won't say who. The men had no idea what was going on, then someone stepped forward from the trees.
The man was cloaked in white, and held a very strange luminescent lantern that glowed endlessly of green. He smiled and spoke "Yes, your friend is dead. I am the keeper of these woods, and werewolves killed your friend. You have been infected, and three of you are secretly werewolves. Every night they will awake as monsters, and someone shall die. Concerto was first. The only way to rid this problem is to find and defeat these wolves. I have given three of you lanterns in your tent last night. Use them to your aid, and beware exposing the knowledge they bestow." With that he began to laugh to himself.
The men did not say a word. They all were focused on the brilliant light that emitted from the lantern. Even the men who found the lanterns that the Strange Man had placed in their tents that morning were hypnotized by this glow which was unlike any other.
The Strange Man then stopped grinning and said very seriously while pointing up to the moon: "Time is passing, soon they will awake."
Then he vanished.
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Night is over. Concerto is dead. It is now Day 1. Day ends Saturday @ 9:00p.m. EST.
No story??
Blah, easy first move from the wolves on killing Concerto >_> So, right now, we know that Concerto is not a wolf... This is gonna be a hard game. ;D
Indeed. But the odds are not tipped in the wolves' direction, either....
1. Mashi
2. Concerto No. 20 in D Minor
3. Universe-x
4. SlowPokemon
5. Drpamplemousse
6. Master_Gamer38
7. SuperFireKirby
8. SuperRiolu
9. Jake3343
10. Askalice23
Okay, it's time to start doing things.
Seer: I'm hoping that you seer'd someone last night, and that you aren't Concerto. Remember, you can't go to this person (assuming this person was green) because there is a masterwolf. If you seer someone red, try and convince others to vote for him.
I'm wondering if the light keepers should reveal a wolf if they find one. It would only reveal two them (The wolf, and the one who reveals him), so the strange man would not know them all. Does anyone have any thoughts on this?
safety on mashi
I'm going to agree with Jake about the Light Keeper seerings. The chances of the Strange Man guessing them all correctly is extremely low, especially this early in the game.
Speaking of which, I also hope that the Light Keepers are strategizing amongst themselves. Such as who they should seer, suspicions, etc.
Doing so will hopefully aid them in finding the Wolves and who they believe are Human so there won't be need to seer them (The reason I say this is because if the small chance that a Wolf and the Seer are holding Lanterns and the Seer is seered, we'll lose the Seer. The chances of this happening are relatively low unless the Wolves play shrewdly and the Seer just happens to be picked as Light Keeper, but I prefer we try to be safe nonetheless).
Now, lets say you seer someone Green, Seer or Light Keepers. Do you just throw this seering away as useless, or will you use it to an advantage? I would disagree with the former option. There is one Master Wolf and 5 Humans (Unless Concerto was Human), so even blindly guessing who to trust will probably end up beneficial. Not to mention, you all know how many Players act as a Wolf already, don't you all? I'm sure that you could learn who's who with a bit of sleuthing.
Trust is one of the most important aspects of TWG. Lanterns are the closest thing to an alliance we have, but for the most part, it's invisible. The non-Lanterns need to be able to form their own group or alliance of people, so even if there is some sort of Wolf in the group, you at least have a Human ally or two then.
Sorry if my post came out oddly, but I'm in a small rush right now. I'm hoping other players will also discuss a few things about the game as well, it helps to differentiate you as a Wolf or Human that way.
Safety on Jake3343 for now.
Unlike Mahsi, I'm noty a big fan of alliances, as they tend to have a way of screwing the humans over in the end. Look back at previous TWG's and you'll see what I'm talking about.
And can a wolf hold a lantern, as it was never specified whether one could or could not in the game. The difference could be substantial, so I think it's good to have it clariffied.
Now, if a wolf cannot hold a lantern, which I'm just guessing that one can, but if it can't then it's important for the lantern keepers to keep a strong alliance.
If a wolf can hold a lantern, then it may be a good idea for the lantern keepers to seer each other. That way, you can make sure you know who to trust, as well as the possibility of weeding out a wolf early on in the game.
A wolf can hold a lantern. And people with lanterns have to discuss amongst themselves who to seer. 1 person to seer. So, I'm guessing the wolf has to take themselves out of it.
No vote for now.
safety on ux
will change as soon as more activity arises.
Quote from: universe-X on August 20, 2010, 08:43:36 AMA wolf can hold a lantern. And people with lanterns have to discuss amongst themselves who to seer. 1 person to seer. So, I'm guessing the wolf has to take themselves out of it.
No vote for now.
The lantern holders should get themselves out of the way. It may take three nights but it would be worth it. And if one lantern holder refuses to vote for themselves after being chosen to be seer'd that night... wolf.
Quote from: askalice23 on August 20, 2010, 10:37:36 AMsafety on ux
Delicious.
Quote from: SuperFireKirby on August 20, 2010, 11:01:19 AMThe lantern holders should get themselves out of the way. It may take three nights but it would be worth it. And if one lantern holder refuses to vote for themselves after being chosen to be seer'd that night... wolf.
Well, I don't know if it's a good idea to just announce that "I had a lantern last night, this person hesitated!" But... man... this needs a whole new field of strategy. I love it! :D
Still no vote. Will probably decide tomorrow.
Also, SlowPokemon & drp! We should hear somethings from you 2. We need activity!
Quote from: universe-X on August 20, 2010, 11:20:44 AMAlso, SlowPokemon & drp! We should hear somethings from you 2. We need activity!
Well, I am still thinking. Slow is in school for another couple of hours.
Um, I was at school all day! I couldn't afford to be here! It's not that I didn't want to be, I swear!
Plus, whenever I go into the chat, the people's names are at the side... but no one's saying anything (or I can't see it). So I'm probably not going to be there...I have a chat issue. (And yes, I am in the TWG channel...)
Anyway, no real leads, so safety on askalice.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 20, 2010, 02:06:07 PMUm, I was at school all day! I couldn't afford to be here! It's not that I didn't want to be, I swear!
Plus, whenever I go into the chat, the people's names are at the side... but no one's saying anything (or I can't see it). So I'm probably not going to be there...I have a chat issue. (And yes, I am in the TWG channel...)
Anyway, no real leads, so safety on askalice.
Someone has to jump and say something. People are on AIM much more anyways (and Nakah backs up AIM)
I'm going to vote
Universe-X based on a vibe. It's moreso a half safety, half vote type of thing though since I don't actually have very plausible evidence, but I prefer vibes over wild guessing, and I especially like them over safeties (Which is actually a common problem at the other forum I go to, which makes many people enraaaaaaaaage).
Quote from: universe-X on August 20, 2010, 11:18:24 AMDelicious.
Well, I don't know if it's a good idea to just announce that "I had a lantern last night, this person hesitated!" But... man... this needs a whole new field of strategy. I love it! :D
Still no vote. Will probably decide tomorrow.
In this game, no Human will ever hesitate unless they felt someone else in the group was a Wolf. Wolves and the Strange Man won't be in a good situation, since hesitating will reveal that they aren't Human and if they don't, they will be seered as not Human.
The only exception to this would be the Seer. But, the chances that the Seer is chosen to be Lantern is low. The chances of the Seer being chosen to be seered by the Lanterns early on is low. The chances of there being a Wolf holding a Lantern is low. As well as the fact that if the Seer is seered and is wolfed the following Night, we know that a Wolf held a Lantern.
Also, to be related a bit more about Universe-X. I'm not exactly fond about the way he's posting. He seems to be making posts, but without adding much to the game. Of course, this could full and well be unintentional, since I don't actually know him very much, but as I said before, this is merely a vibe, so I could be right or wrong.
Well, i'm going to vote askalice. He has been acting the same way as last game... kinda distant, like he's hiding something, and since he was a wolf last game, there are just ends at match up.
I just noticed a post I missed in this topic.
Quote from: drpamplemousse on August 20, 2010, 11:26:30 AMWell, I am still thinking. Slow is in school for another couple of hours.
This is only for precautions, but how do you know that SlowPokemon was in school? Are you close to him, or did he mention it anywhere?
The reason I ask this is because in a past game, one of my friends had made the mistake of posting his Wolf team mate was busy at one point, which he probably wouldn't know if he wasn't a Wolf. He wasn't caught, but it was noted in the Post Game. Little things like this are what usually drives the game.
Also, while I'm at it, is the fact that askalice23 believed that you were the Strange Man also a part of your vibe on him?
Quote from: Mashi on August 20, 2010, 03:37:42 PMThis is only for precautions, but how do you know that SlowPokemon was in school? Are you close to him, or did he mention it anywhere?
He knows I was in school because I posted in the "Back-to-School" thread. Plus we talk a lot.
I think you're finding things that aren't there, Mashi. :P
Never under-analyze, for sure... but over-analyzing is just as bad in some cases.
I usually save interrogations and over analysis for chats, to test reactions in real time (Which has always been a very important aspect in past TWG's I've played). But I don't usually see anyone on YIM and no one has added me (Aren't connections to different services available though? I could've sworn I was able to add some YIM people on MSN before) and no one is in the TWG Chatroom either, so I may as well try to do a few of those things in the topic.
I'll go in the chatroom right now if you'll be in there. xP
It'll be my first TWG chat because like you said, it's usually empty.
Ill be in there too...
Askalice and MG are on AIM if you wanna talk to them
Okay, so HUGE things just happening in the chat, which either involves DrP completely screwing up and revealing himself and U-X as wolves, or U-X broke the rules. You decide.
<Mashi> Are you suspicious of Universe X currently?
<drpampv2> nope... i know his role. im just thinking if he's a lantern holder
<jake3343> you know his role?
<drpampv2> yes... hes a human
<jake3343> how do you know?
<drpampv2> he fwd'd me Nakahs PM
<jake3343> ...
<Mashi> You can't know a person's ROle in this game, unless they're a Red WOlf or Strange Man.
<Mashi> That's cheating
<drpampv2> C'est de ma faute
<Master_Gamer38> ...
<drpampv2> he could have doctored it, ya know
<Master_Gamer38> No
<jake3343> No, it's still against the rules
<Mashi> It's still cheating.
[more of us yelling at DrP]
<jake3343> WAIT
<drpampv2> wat
<jake3343> Maybe DRP and UNiverse are both wolves
<Mashi> Did he send you Nakah's PM saying he was- Hmm?
<jake3343> And drp just said that to throw suspicion out him
<Mashi> What do you mean, jake?
<jake3343> Not know that it was against the rules
<Mashi> Well, it could backfire hard.
<drpampv2> He never send me saying that "You're a... " from the host
<jake3343> Then what did he send you?
<jake3343> I think they're both wolves
<drpampv2> He said he was a human
<jake3343> 1. then why did you say "<drpampv2> he fwd'd me Nakahs PM"
<drpampv2> like i said, to stir up stuff...
<drpampv2> i know its not nice to joke after that... so...
<Mashi> Joking about that at all is pretty bad.
<jake3343> Okay]
<drpampv2> so i have found out... no more misleading comments pertaining to in illegal nature... CHECK!
<jake3343> I defitinely think that DRP and U-X are both wolves
<Mashi> So do I.
<drpampv2> you want me to vote for Uni-x to show that i aint no wolf!
<Mashi> A Human wouldn't have any reason to joke about something like that.
<Mashi> That won't prove you're Human.
<Mashi> Wolves usually vote for their team mates when it's obvious that they're Wolves.
So, either Universe-x forwarded Nakah's pm to DrP, which I doubt, or DrP and U-X are probably both wolves. We'll probably know if it's the latter if Nakah doesn't end the game/kill off Universe for breaking a rule. Also, I would like to point out that if Universe sent DrP his role pm, DrP would know whether or not he had a lantern.
That being said, drpamplemousse
drpamplemousse
Woah, that's messed up.
I'm going to vote universe-x, though
Plan A
Plan B
(Nakah you can check PMs, right... if they were sent or not.)
Sorry to drpamplemousse. I believe you are a wolf.
It's awkward, but there you are.
And I'm considering SuperRiolu for tomorrow, as he isn't lynching drp.
o__o It's kind of strange that he wouldn't wolf the one we all are...
I guess I'll save Plan B for next time... so much for this approach to so-called "lighten things up", and then it backfires on me... Nik, you can be so F***ing stupid sometimes... get it together. You just need a vacation, and you just need to move away and start taking those horrid psych classes.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 20, 2010, 06:17:43 PMo__o It's kind of strange that he wouldn't wolf the one we all are...
Hmm? Sorry, but could you explain this? I don't quite understand.
We were all lynching DrP... and SuperRiolu decides to vote for the other choice instead... like he's avoiding voting for DrPamplemousse.
It may be just an over-analysis. I don't know.
But of course, that would mean that Universe-x was not a wolf. So maybe that wasn't the right idea...
Hmm. Now I don't know what to think.
Alright, that is probably one of the most important rules that I stress. I've said it multiple times and it's in the rule's thread that YOU MAY NEVER SHARE A PM from the host. Now, what I'm going to do about this is a sticky situation, because DRP is either an idiot for making that sort of joke, or he is lying and Universe really did share his pm. In the case of the last part, both of you will be removed from the game, and if the first part is only true, then drp is getting removed from the game. Either way, thanks to drp's leak of info, someone is getting removed from the game.
This rule is no joke, and literally ruins the game.
Universe, in TWG V you pulled a similar stunt with making a pre-game alliance. Now drp is saying that you(and without provocation chooses you) shared your pm with him. This throws you both under the bus, whether you really did share it or not. Your name however was brought up only by drp for breaking the rules, again.
Sorry guys, but this is a multiple offense for Universe and drp made the fatal flaw of trying to convince others that he had seen a pm from the host, and he also included Universe in this ill-conceived joke. Since there is no way to be absolutely sure that pm's were not shared, drp and universe-x have been removed from the game.
Everyone needs to know the importance of these rules and why they stand. I'm not going to let a joking remark or serious rule break ruin this game. Read the rules.
Ouch! C'est très horrible, but one of them broke the rules. Something bad happened there.
So, do we have to change our votes, or do they count as the lynched players?
We need to change our votes.
Right now I'm thinking that SuperRiolu is a wolf and U-X is not. Why would Riolu not vote for DrP? While he could use the whole "I'm new and don't know what to do", I can't see why any new person would go against what everyone else was doing. I could if it involved him voting for a fellow wolf. Therefore, I am voting SuperRiolu. Also, in the IRC, DrP said that SuperRiolu e-mailed (he may have ment pm'd?) him asking who to vote for.
SuperRiolu, for reasons that I (and Jake) stated above.
Avast! I was killed again! Stop killzinz meeze
No, he sent me an email, not "un message personnel". I was planning on going with Universe-X the entire time, I just asked DrP, since it looked like he knew what he was doing, which is not the not the case now. I will change my vote since it is no longer valid at this time. I cast my ballot for SlowPokemon. (Though he is cool and all), I am voting for him since he may have something sneaky for this game (I did not know how to word this sentence in English)... here it is in french, if you can translate: Je se vote parce que je pense qu'il agit un peu sournois pour un joueur expérimenté et peut-être essayer de nous jouer les uns des autres.
Ok, as a post on my own part:
WHAT. THE. FUCK.
I did not forward any PM to anyone concerning TWG, I'm not that stupid. And I can take pics (which will say whether you have "forwarded or responded to this message) to prove it. (Cheap, I know, but shows proof.)
DRP did ask me to make a "human team" via PM one night and told me he was human. He said that he would forward his Role PM to me to prove it and I believe I mentioned that it was against the rules.
Quote from: Nakah on August 20, 2010, 06:43:03 PMUniverse, in TWG V you pulled a similar stunt with making a pre-game alliance.
Maestro and I didn't know that was a rule until after the game. I abide by that rule now. :P
One thing more about me: I don't like rumors. So don't start any,
especially if false. I take lying/telling the truth very seriously.
Drp... I... C-... *facepalm*
Good luck to the rest of the humans. Nakah, if you are willing to take me back in the game with the proof I'm willing to give, please PM me.
Okay, I think quite a few of you read the rules wrong. The Lantern Keepers can only vote to seer people that are holding a Lantern.
QuoteEvery Night phase, the three players with lanterns will submit one vote each to the host in order to choose one person who is currently holding a lantern to be seer'd.
Drp, does seem to be quite odd with him revealing himself and then with his last post, about him needing a vacation and all. There is a possible chance the rules were broken.
Drp: No, Nakah would not have the ability to check if pms were sent, the only way to see that, is to look into the databases that only jamaha has access to.
Headed in another direction. I've been feeling nerdy quite a bit lately. Since I've been messing around with programming, and had time. I went and ran probability experiments based upon the lanterns. It took me forever, because I kept screwing up. At first I had things all wrong, then I went back and decided I should separate the master wolf from the regular wolves, and then I realized I needed to include the strange man. All in all, I've done around 300 million trials.
These trials don't prove anything. They just mathematically show the percent chance (rounded to one decimal place) of each of the following situations happening.
| Situation | Percent Chance |
| Seer and Humans | 8.0 |
| Seer, Wolf and Human | 7.4 |
| Seer, Two Wolves | 1.1 |
| Seer, Master Wolf and Human | 3.7 |
| Seer, Master Wolf and Wolf | 1.4 |
| Master Wolf and Humans | 8.0 |
| Master Wolf, Wolf and Human | 7.4 |
| Master Wolf and Two Wolves | 1.1 |
| Wolf and Humans | 15.4 |
| Two wolves and Human | 5.5 |
| Only Humans | 40.7 |
The table speaks for itself. Although, it isn't perfect. I'd like to point out that the results will be close, but not exact. Mainly, I'm pointing out the .3 difference between "Seer, Two Wolves" and "Seer, Master Wolf and Wolf" which, essentially is going to be the same thing. But, these slight variances are going to be only slightly off and aren't a main issue.
So, where are things now. Let's take a look at the player standings.
1. Mashi
2. Concerto No. 20 in D Minor 3. Universe-x 4. SlowPokemon
5. Drpamplemousse 6. Master_Gamer38
7. SuperFireKirby
8. SuperRiolu
9. Jake3343
10. Askalice23
Leaving 7 people. Let's consider the possibilities.
Concerto was human. This doesn't affect things much at all. All of the 'special' roles still remain. (These being the seer, strange man and master wolf). Now, with drp and u-x being removed. Based upon concerto being human. For each of them, there is 1/3rd chance they were a wolf, with a 1/9th chance master wolf. 1/9th chance seer and strange man. and 4/9ths it was a human.
This makes a 1/9th chance they were both wolves. 1/27th it was one wolf and master wolf. 1/81th chance that is was the seer and strange man. The chance of a wolf and a human is the most likely. Which is close to a 1/7th chance.
Concerto was wolf. I'm not going to elaborate further on this one. Since I don't believe they would wolf one of their own.
Concerto was the seer. This hurts our chance to win. Without the seer, finding the wolves among us is going to be much harder, but not impossible. Now further removing roles, there is a 1/3 chance it was a wolf again. 1/9 chance strange man. And 5/9ths chance human. Also, the master wolf's chance of being removed was 1/9th (also accounted into the wolf chance in general). Most likely chance was a 5/27ths chance (near 1/5) of the removed players roles being one human and one wolf. Least likely is the master wolf and strange man being removed.
Concerto was the strange man. This isn't possible as it stated that the strange man cannot be wolfed.
As of writing all of that, I can say that out of those three people gone. We probably lose 3 humans. I'd put my money on 2 humans, and a wolf. Of course, this is all based off the chance of the game. Taking a look at the posts by the players, I'd put my money elsewhere. I'd probably say 1 human (concerto), 1 wolf (drp) and I don't know about u-x.
I would like to go back to Mashi's first post. It has some revising to do. His math needs to be fixed, as there was an unforeseen change in the outcome
Day 1 begins, 7 Players left.
Night 2 begins, 6 Players left.
Day 2 begins, 5 Players left.
Night 3 begins, 4 Players left.
Day 3 begins, 3 players left. Game over.
The game could end earlier, but at max, there are 2 seerings by the seer left, and 2 seers by lantern left.
To update his seering chances.
Night 1: 2/9 getting a Wolf.
Night 2: 2/5 getting a Wolf.
Night 3: 1/3 getting a Wolf. (This must be 1/3rd because two wolves remaining at this point would have won)
The seers by lantern are going to be more interesting. So, using the lanterns they could be passed around, meaning, if an alliance is formed between the lantern holders, that they could team up and seer other people. This would take time, depending on when the lanterns are actually transferred. I'm assuming that they are sent, and then that person is notified at the beginning of the next day phase. Meaning, even if they had an alliance now, they'd have to send a lantern this next night phase, and they'd find out at the beginning of the last phase.
It should be safe to assume that the lanterns won't have much effect on the rest of the game.
Well, nearing the end of a long post. What more needs to be mentioned. The strange man. He may or may not be alive, his victory conditions are unknown. His seering colour is unknown. He certainly is, a strange man. What do we know? That if he guesses the 3 lantern keepers, they all die, and the two regular wolves die. This seems like a great opportunity to use! But, it's the strange man. His victory may come faster than ours if the opportunity was taken. I'd rather have us win, rather than him. So, it's already been basically agreed to keep lantern keepers hidden, but I'd just like to reiterate in my first post.
What other facets can we assume about him? Well, as nakah has said, his seering colour changes based on an unknown variable. I think this means that the seer probably won't ever seer someone purple. Meaning, there might be an extra 'red' in the group. Or maybe an extra 'green.' This further throws off percentages. I'm going to advise at this point, that whatever alliances have been formed as a result of the lanterns, that the lantern holders stay unknown.
Well I just realized something.
Lanterns should not be sent at all. If one was sent to the strange man on accident, he would know who the other lantern keepers are. He could potentially sacrifice himself if he would win in that case. Otherwise, he could send it off, and then name the people that have the lanterns.
With that, I'm concluding this massive first post. With a total of one thousand two hundred and 5 words (above the previous horizontal rule), I'm done. It took part of the day, mainly because of the probability trials. I'm currently keeping a vote on
no one. I don't want to rush especially now that we may only have this phase to make sure a wolf is gone. I sure hope that all of this work means something, and that maybe one or two people will actually read the whole thing. And yes, I was writing this as things happened. So, some of the stuff near the top isn't as relevant now.
Now this is TWG.
Oh and Universe is back in the game because he's pretty convincingly telling the truth.
I will investigate the posts that I (sadly) missed and make a vote later today.
And sorry MG for you having to redo all your math stuff >:(
This is one TWG that I can't miss out on ;)
Quote from: SuperRiolu on August 20, 2010, 07:50:27 PMNo, he sent me an email, not "un message personnel". I was planning on going with Universe-X the entire time, I just asked DrP, since it looked like he knew what he was doing, which is not the not the case now. I will change my vote since it is no longer valid at this time. I cast my ballot for SlowPokemon. (Though he is cool and all), I am voting for him since he may have something sneaky for this game (I did not know how to word this sentence in English)... here it is in french, if you can translate: Je se vote parce que je pense qu'il agit un peu sournois pour un joueur expérimenté et peut-être essayer de nous jouer les uns des autres.
Translation From Google Translate: I will vote because I think he acts a bit shifty to an experienced player and perhaps try to play us from each other.
Errr, did you pay attention to the topic? Or did you miss something when we voted? I'm not sure whether it's because you're new or language boundaries (Or both), but if you read the chat log jake posted, voting drpamplemousse seemed obvious.
Though, to be honest, I think SuperRiolu is just a confused Human currently. Wolves don't usually ask other players who to vote for and usually try to drop herrings more. I don't really see SuperRiolu doing the latter, but seems to be following other people's suspicions and constantly switching. Of course, this could go both ways, such as him trying to go under the radar, but it's something worth discussing.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 20, 2010, 06:25:56 PMWe were all lynching DrP... and SuperRiolu decides to vote for the other choice instead... like he's avoiding voting for DrPamplemousse.
It may be just an over-analysis. I don't know.
But of course, that would mean that Universe-x was not a wolf. So maybe that wasn't the right idea...
Hmm. Now I don't know what to think.
Do you mean that you meant to say 'lynch' instead of wolf in your other post?
Aside from all of this though, I as well am not entirely sure of who to vote for. As far as my standings go though:
1. Mashi - Human
2. Concerto No. 20 in D Minor - Human or Seer, most likely former.
3. Universe-x - Unsure, leaning towards Human though because of the small chaos caused before.
4. SlowPokemon - Somewhat suspicious of him. Seemed to be close to drpamp before.
5. Drpamplemousse - Wolf, I don't see why a Human would ever joke about something as serious as cheating.
6. Master_Gamer38 - Seems Human to me so far. He seems eager to help the Humans win, such as how long it took him to get statistics, his analysis on Concerto, etc. I find it rare for Wolves to go that far in these such things. Of course, he seems like a good player, so I'm staying wary of him.
7. SuperFireKirby - I have no opinion on him as of yet.
8. SuperRiolu - I believe that he's just a confused Human. Though, I'm not entirely sure about.
9. Jake3343 - Like Master Gamer, he also seems Human to me. Though, not as much currently. He also seems good, so I'm staying wary of him as well.
10. Askalice23 - After the mishap with drpamp, I'm beginning to think he's Human. Though aside from that, I have no opinion on him as of yet.
You're not making any sense. You guessed 1 wolf and called me "suspicious".
Which I'm not; what does me being friends with DrP have to do with this game?
I'm still voting for SuperRiolu, but you yourself are acting a little strange. Then again, you are a first-timer... :P
Yep. Still SuperRiolu.
Mashi- it's good that you gathered... evidence? but it has to make sense. :P
Here's my thoughts:
I have a pretty good feeling that Drp was human, but there's no solid evidence as far as that.
It is definitely still possible for us to win without a Seer, if Concerto was the seer.
There are 3 wolves and a strange man out there.
I'm thinking SFK, because a "wolf shouldn't get wolfed, and he wasn't, liek, the first dead". But, just a thought.
jake, in my experiences with him (:P) is good. And quiet (I feel), this game I around. Nothing on him yet.
SuperRiolu could be a human... but he didn't vote for drp when everyone else did. This could be nervousness, languade boundaries (as Mashi said)... or maybe it was his first game and he didn't want to kill his fellow wolf (which drp could also have been). Putting that out there.
Mashi. I'm only suspicious of you because of your big post supporting askalice in the end. Saying that "After the mishap with drpamp, I'm beginning to think he's Human. Though aside from that, I have no opinion on him as of yet." When I don't see any posts from him and I don't believe I've ever seen him in the IRC chat to talk to any of us. So, why end up thinking he's human when there's a team of 4(maybe 3) out of 8 out to get us?
See if you can convince me otherwise.
because i talk to people in other things besides irc mainly through pms because thats the easiest way to get ahold of me. im out alot so when i am on i check pms and dont sign into anything. im more active than some may think.
with that being said:
ux: i find it odd that drp would joke around about that but why would he do it with you. why is your role that important that drp had to say hes human because i cheated
mashi: seems human with all the math i dont know much on you right now because ive never played with you
superriolu: odd postings not 100% on what i think because like mashi ive never played with you.
jake: seems human but its hard to tell. its not the postings that make me suspicious its just the fact that he is good at playing the role of a wolf.
mg:human he did all that math and seems to be very determined on a human win.
slow: you and drp were close but you guys were also close last game. so im just going to keep my eye on you.
concerto: human... wolfing a wolf that early makes no sense
drp: wolf... why would anyone ever do what he did except try to prove the innocence of another (ux)
sfk: you didnt die for the 2nd game in a row :O haha... but i think hes human but not much to really go off of right now.
so for now ux for well read above
Well, I was trying to create alliances in this game, but I forgot that this is a completely different game we're playing here. I've sent PMs to MG and Drp only. And after the incident with Drp, I obviously shouldn't try any more alliances :P
Also, don't consider relations from "this or that" game in a current game. They really don't mean anything.
Askalice is seriously bothering me. GRAMMAR.
But enough about that.
I'm still not completely convinced that DrP was a wolf - what if he really was making a completely stupid comment?
The evidence indeed says that he's a wolf, however.
I'm going to give Universe-x another chance to redeem himself and convince us that he's not a wolf...I have bigger suspects.
Then Universe brought up the interesting subject of Jake... he has been rather quiet - until he gave evidence of DrP being a wolf.
HMM.
askalice's grammar has gotten better than a few previous games. :P
What drp said was very stupid.
And I maybe just missing something completely here... but what evidence says that he's a wolf and (if the IRC chat is evidence) how does that prove it...?
Gahhh reading. It's hard to believe that it's still day 1.
I really don't have a lot to say. My suspicion still rests on SuperRiolu, as I think he and DrP are two of the wolves. As for the third, I don't know. Mashi and MG both seem like humans, but they're both very experienced. Universe-x seems human because SuperRiolu voted for him.
Vote still stands on Riolu.
I'll place a half vote, half safety on SlowPokemon, though I'll need to think about this a bit more, lots of stuff going on.
Aside from any of this though, one main reason I believe SuperRiolu is Human is mainly because drpamp was suspicious of him to a large extent from what I could tell. And the reason I believe Slow is suspicious is because he was also suspicious about SuperRiolu, alongside drpamp. In fact, drpamp even said that SuperRiolu sent him a PM while he was in the chat. A Wolf wouldn't do that. There's also the debate about SuperRiolu being new, but that's up for question anyhow.
Explain why a wolf wouldn't do that?
Why wouldn't a wolf send DrP a pm while he was in the chat?
And how is me being suspicious of Riolu suspicious in itself? Jake is also voting for Riolu.
I keep asking you for explanations of why I'm a suspect, but you haven't given me a very plausible one yet.
Okay, post number two. Time to re-correct the math again based on what's happened.
The table of trials and lantern percents is still fine and dandy. No need to adjust that.
Player standings! Gotta fix it!
1. Mashi
2. Concerto No. 20 in D Minor
3. Universe-x
4. SlowPokemon
5. Drpamplemousse
6. Master_Gamer38
7. SuperFireKirby
8. SuperRiolu
9. Jake3343
10. Askalice23
Leaving us with 8 people. At the end of this phase, 7.
Skipping the probability stuff for now. Let's go to Mashi's first post.
Day 1 begins, 8 Players left.
Night 2 begins, 7 Players left.
Day 2 begins, 6 Players left.
Night 3 begins, 5 Players left.
Day 3 begins, 4 players left.
Night 4 begins, 3 players left. Game over.
First of all, ending on a night phase is weird. It throws things off, and in the original rules, I believe the wolf/human count is supposed to be at the end of the day phase. Nakah, if you could clarify on this please. Once Nakah clarifies, I can expand further on this.
But based on above, let's go to the seerings.
Night 1: 2/9 getting a Wolf.
Night 2: 2/6 (1/3) getting a Wolf.
Night 3: 2/5 getting a Wolf.
Of course, this is if there aren't any wolves that have been killed. If a wolf does die, then the chance is halved. Also, this isn't actually to seer a wolf. It's to seer a red. (Assuming that the strange man won't be seered red.)
If we go to the all the different concerto scenarios, they are generally the same. Except only one person is gone. Basically this is the current percentages. 1/3rd chance they were a wolf, with a 1/9th chance master wolf. 1/9th chance seer and strange man. and 4/9ths it was a human. The only variation is if concerto was something other than human, which would make human 4/9ths. And remove the chance for either the seer or strange man.
If that doesn't make sense, I'll clarify more.
Lets again visit the lanterns, we now have slightly more time. Could they be used? Yeah, should they be used? I don't think so. Having a lantern being given to the strange man could be disastrous. We still don't know what exactly his win conditions are. And until we do, we should be cautious.
But, a question about the lanterns, what happens to a lantern if someone dies while holding one. Does their dead body continue to hold it? Or is it transferred? Nakah, if you could clarify this too.
Well, what do I think of each player at this point?
1. Mashi - I'm leaning towards human, but anything could change.
2. Concerto No. 20 in D Minor - From a statistics stand point, he was probably human.
3. Universe-x - Seems more human than anything.
4. SlowPokemon - His posts strike me as odd, and maybe under the pressure of first time wolf.
5. Drpamplemousse - It would appear that he was a wolf, but we can't assume ourselves into false security.
7. SuperFireKirby - I haven't seen enough from him to make a definite choice.
8. SuperRiolu - The language barrier is different to go through. But seeming more wolf than anything.
9. Jake3343 - Like Mashi, seems human.
10. Askalice23 - From what I've seen of him, he seems to be human.
At this point, I'm keeping my vote at no one, as I should make it on before the voting ends.
Towards SlowPokemon:
1. Because if drpamp were a Wolf, why would he raise even more suspicions on a fellow wolf by making the PM SuperRiolu sent public?
2. I'm not sure what you mean by this, I think I may have worded my post oddly then.
3. I believe you're suspicious because you were agreeing with drpamp with a lot of things he had mentioned. When he mentioned SuperRiolu being suspicious, you agreed with him. I tried to make it so that you would both think about it a bit more by revealing other scenarios, but you seemed deadset about it. Jake may be voting for SuperRiolu, but that's by his own accord with the knowledge he was given. I don't think anyone had discussed SuperRiolu with him in the chat, he isn't aware of everything that went about during drpamp, your and my discussion. Plus, it seemed like he was on neutral grounds with drpamp when they first met and he reacted to the cheating joke in the same way a Human would.
4. My posts are probably somewhat cluttered, but I'm restating things right now actually.
What do you mean, deadset on voting for SuperRiolu? Of course I am, I believe he's a wolf.
And if you remember correctly, I deduced that myself; when I entered the chatroom the first thing I read was you saying "Yeah, that is fishy"
And I said, "what's fishy", and conversation ensued. Then I said something about askalice and SR both being wolves. Me. Not DrP.
I'm not agreeing with DrP, that's not possible because he didn't give me any reasons. I'm just following a hunch - may not mean anything.
And Jake's info was given to him, alright - by me. (correct me if I'm wrong here)
Seven pages in on Day 1.
This is epic.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 21, 2010, 01:05:11 PMWhat do you mean, deadset on voting for SuperRiolu? Of course I am, I believe he's a wolf.
And if you remember correctly, I deduced that myself; when I entered the chatroom the first thing I read was you saying "Yeah, that is fishy"
And I said, "what's fishy", and conversation ensued. Then I said something about askalice and SR both being wolves. Me. Not DrP.
I'm not agreeing with DrP, that's not possible because he didn't give me any reasons. I'm just following a hunch - may not mean anything.
And Jake's info was given to him, alright - by me. (correct me if I'm wrong here)
I really don't see any reason of to why you should be dead set unless he outright claimed to being a Wolf, was seered, etc. We're basing it off of logic after all, and I've said a few points that we need to take into account. We're in a sense, creating theories,and we can't be deadset on a theory.
wut? I did? That can't be right, saying "Something is fishy" is one of the last things I would say. Are you sure I didn't say something else, or if someone else said it? I think you mean drpamplmousse to be honest.
Yes, but he brought it up. He was the one who felt that SuperRiolu was suspicious in the first place, even if he didn't say much about it.
As I said, he brought it up because he was suspicious, not randomly. Also, you say it's a hunch, but you say you're deadset about SuperRiolu. Of course, you may be using different adjectives to describe your vote, but these contradictions aren't adding up currently.
Alright then.
Though, after the chat I've had with you, I'm confused again, aaaaaaaaaaaaah.
Going to safety on
SFK while I think.
Alright, thanks for your explanation (and not being a total jerk about it)
I have to think about this after our chat...
Change vote to no one for the time being
Quote from: Nakah on August 21, 2010, 01:15:04 PMSeven pages in on Day 1.
This is epic.
This beats last game by a landslide... last game I think we had seven pages TOTAL. xD
Alright, I have evidence (in my eyes) that u-x is human.
Nakah said he couldn't be sure that u-x didn't show his pm to DrP - who had claimed that u-x was human. If u-x was a wolf, then Nakah, the host, could be sure that u-x DIDN'T show DrP the pm. Cheap, but there you are.
That being said, (this has nothing to do with above) I've been thinking and I'm going to hold off on voting for SuperRiolu. I'm going to vote for someone who (if I'm right) is working with him - askalice23.
OK, so there are 4 bad guys. 2 wolves, strange man (should he want to support the wolves), and the Master Wolf. I want to say that I know who they are... but I'm not sure.
I would like to know everyone's relations with each other during this game. I mean, if you're innocent, there shouldn't be any problem with that, right? Of course, I'm not pressuring... but yeah. I've only PM'd Drp and MG on trying to start an alliance.
My suspects atm are:
MG- for somewhat supporting the next 3 people that I'm gonna talk about.
Mashi- for... fishy posts. This could change along the way though...
askalice23- this is not me being conceited or anything, but I honestly don't see why he would vote for me after it's pretty obvious now that I'm a human. Just saying.
and Jake- because MG claimed that he's acting somewhat like Mashi. [/terrible evidence].
I also see this as: MG, Mashi, & Jake being the 3 wolves (MG being Master Wolf... I have a huge knot in my gut from thinking this, I dunno why) (They all support each other like pillars). And askalice could be strange man.
There's still 2 people that I hold under some pretty big suspicion.
SFK [inactive atm] (who couldn't be the seer. He would've posted something by now if that were the case) (I'm afraid to say that the wolves may have gotten away with a lucky shot on killing Concerto, who may have been our Seer)
SuperRiolu- I'm just not too sure about him. I'll see more when it comes.
So, yeah. I'm leaving a vote on askalice for now. Let's see how it plays out.
please enlighten me... i dont see how it is so obvious that youre human. that makes no sense. nakah would never give info away like that and youre reading way too much into this.
i suspect you because drp was being very very wolfy and why would he want to defend you. so essentially the wolfiest player so far tried to defend you with that whole pm thing
it seems like we have a little trio going here.. ux, slow, and drp are all together... seems a bit wolfy??
You're getting nervous. And Nakah didn't do it on purpose. You don't get it... or I don't. Please explain.
My vote remains on askalice.
nervous haha oh yeah im shaking....
how does that prove his innocence... nakah said he cant trace pms so he wouldnt know if a pm was sent or not. in no way does this tell you the information that was in the pm.
Oh my God, you don't get it.
NAKAH IS THE HOST. He knows what U-x is. As DrP "lied" saying that u-x sent him a pm saying that HE WAS HUMAN, Nakah couldn't tell if that was a lie. U-X IS HUMAN. xD
Quote from: askalice23 on August 21, 2010, 03:07:28 PMplease enlighten me... i dont see how it is so obvious that youre human. that makes no sense. nakah would never give info away like that and youre reading way too much into this.
i suspect you because drp was being very very wolfy and why would he want to defend you. so essentially the wolfiest player so far tried to defend you with that whole pm thing
it seems like we have a little trio going here.. ux, slow, and drp are all together... seems a bit wolfy??
Ok, I may be reading too much, but you're obviously reading too little, which I understand, because I'm making some pretty long posts this time 'round.
Nakah can't give out too much (virtually any) information. I am human. I know it. There you go.
Drp, yes, tried to defend me. He was trying to create a human team (he said in a PM). I can forward you
that PM, if need be. (We can forward PMs like that, correct?)
And of course, a human would want to protect a fellow human.
Also, I'm gonna say again:
I would like to know everyone's relations with each other during this game. Like, how you communicated each other, with what method, etc. If you don't want to, that's fine, I guess. But it would really help the humans, etc.
no i do get it...
but how would ux be able to prove drp was lieing about the pm if in fact he was human??
That doesn't even matter!
I'm saying that u-x is human, not that he didn't send the pm! (Which I also don't think he did)
SHOCKING EVIDENCE (kind of)
I was looking on Who's Online, and askalice and SR were BOTH sending messages at the same time..
>.>
Does this prove anything?
I think it supports my theory, personally. But.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 21, 2010, 03:31:18 PMSHOCKING EVIDENCE (kind of)
I was looking on Who's Online, and askalice and SR were BOTH sending messages at the same time..
>.>
Does this prove anything?
I think it supports my theory, personally. But.
And now check YOUR message box.
I've changed my nove to
no one because of what has been happening while I have been sleeping.
yes it does matter...
if the pm said he was human then there is no way of proving he didnt send the pm and he shouldnt be allowed back into the game.
so ux returning to the game makes me think he is a special role and drps info was false
hahaha shocking evidence... apparently this site is only used for communicating about twg... great evidence automatic mvp right there
Hahaha. Wow. Pretty stupid of me. :)
Quote from: askalice23 on August 21, 2010, 03:26:15 PMno i do get it...
but how would ux be able to prove drp was lieing about the pm if in fact he was human??
-___- Print Scrn the page where it shows the "TWG Role" PM that Nakah sent. Under the time and date, it SHOULDN'T say that "You have responded or forwarded this message", because I didn't do either. Pretty solid proof right there.
Vote count
askalice - 2
SFK - 1
SuperRiolu - 1
Seriously? Four voters? Out of eight?
Well, truthfully, SuperRiolu and Mashi have officially voted no one...
Who hasn't voted at all... askalice and master gamer...
1 hour and 50 minutes...
Crap. Running out of time. I was working on another post. But I have supper, and I doubt I'll be back in time.
I have good feelings that askalice is not a wolf. And I don't want to lynch a good player. Nor do I want to have an inactive kill. So, I'm putting my vote on SuperRiolu, I urge that askalice be left to live, with proper time to interrogate him on chat. Rather than killing on a whim in the topic.
After supper I'll finish typing my other post.
K, I'll change my vote to SuperRiolu. askalice better watch out though. I got my eye on you. -____o [/slow]
* SuperRiolu
Ack!
askalice
Am I too late?
Well, it doesn't matter, as you have three votes and askalice would have 2.01.
I think he had a phantom, correct?
2.01? Phantom? What?
When you don't post a vote, it counts as .01 vote towards yourself. This is known as a phantom.
No, he wouldn't have a phantom. He would get a phantom after missing this voting round.
Sorry? I thought a phantom was when no vote was cast?
Exactly. He would now have one phantom. But when the votes all came in, he did not have a phantom.
I really don't understand, sorry!
Isn't his vote a phantom right now, since this voting round ended about 28 minutes ago?
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 21, 2010, 04:09:29 PMWho hasn't voted at all... askalice and master gamer...
i voted for ux awhile ago
Riiiiiiight.
Well, seeya, SR. Nice playin' with you.
Well, Nakah may count my vote, or I'll be a phantom tomorrow. We shall see.
Doesn't matter even if he counts it - you still have more votes. :P
Day 1 is over.
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The men in the camp looked at each other puzzled when the strange man had vanished. A deep fear sank into their hearts, knowing an impending doom most likely awaited them all.
The men argued and discussed all of the suspicions of one another and who had been where at what time doing what, etc. They eventually narrowed down their candidates to two men, Mr. SuperRiolu, and Mr. AskAlice.
"This is preposterous, your reasons for suspecting me are full of fallacy and blindness." Declared AskAlice.
"Your actions just aren't lining up, and someone's gotta go." Responded UX
The Mr. MG jumped in and stated "Sorry guys I just woke up, what I miss?"
Then MG noticed Concerto's rotting and mauled apart corpse still laying on the ground in the same place.
"HOLY **** " Said MG.
The men stared at the corpse, and decided it was best to finally get rid of it. After all, they had been arguing around it all day while paying little attention to it. So a few men circled around poor Concerto and picked up his wrangled mess of a body, and tossed it in the bonfire.
The camp began to fill with a fragrance of burning flesh and crackling bone. Many of the men became sick and threw up on the spot.
"Anyways," said MG. "I think I'm going to go with SuperRiolu here, he's been pretty suspicious and stuff, ya know."
"Well, since I feel like being the one to get somebody killed, I'll switch my decision to SuperRiolu too." Said UX.
And so it was. The men seized SuperRiolu, who started to scream and sob in horror. One man grabbed a noose, but another man put his arm across the noose, blocking it from reaching SuperRiolu. "No, we must burn him alive to make sure he doesn't come back and kill us."
The men began to laugh maniacally and full of cheer. SuperRiolu shouted and plead for mercy, but the men only began to sing, and sing louder for each complaint by SuperRiolu.
Ho ho ho to the flames he goes
To burn up from head to toes.
His skin will crack, his complexion turn black
His eyes will melt, and skin will peel
And when toasted front to back
The safer we'll feel.
The men heartily repeated these verses on the spot as they roped SuperRiolu, who was a sobbing mess, and carried him over beside the flames.
The men all looked to one another and nodded, completely ignoring the unceasing screams for mercy.
"One and 'a Two and 'a THREE!" Screamed MG as the men all swung and let go of SuperRiolu, tossing his roped body into the fire.
Instantly his body was engulfed, and a horrifying scream filled the evening air. He writhed and attempted to scramble away for a few moments, but with each attempt, one of the men just kicked him back into the flames. There was no escape, and within a few minutes the screaming and stopped.
Silence.
"Well, I'll sure miss that Concerto fellow. It's a damn shame he's gone." Said SFK.
"Damn shame indeed, poor Concerto." Said MG
The rest of the men all went back to their tents and went to sleep.
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It is now Night 2. SuperRiolu is dead. Night ends Sunday @ 9:00 p.m. EST.
I love how it makes me seem like a follower xD
Also, loved the little tune that you put in there... even though it meant death. :D
First of all, I'd like to point out that SlowPokemon and Universe-X are both following each other.
Universe-X
There is no reason why SFK couldn't be the seer. In fact, the seer could be anyone. The fact that no one has claimed is a good thing. If the seer came out, they'd be dead this night phase because they have no one to protect them. You said it yourself in your post that you have terrible evidence.
You say you want to know the relations. I've been talking to people that come on irc. And I'm talking to AskAlice through PMs instead of using Aim to do it.
Through my chats with him, he has seemed human. I'm trusting him to be human until further evidence is revealed.
Mashi and I have talked on irc, and I added his YIM, although we haven't talked there yet. You say his posts are fishy. They aren't. This is how TWG should be played. This game is actually going well and not random inactivity kills. Mashi's posts may seem fishy, because they are actually getting things to happen. This is making me believe he is more human than anything.
Jake is another experienced player, he is acting like Mashi, doesn't mean that we three are together. We are just three experienced players that know what we're doing and how to look for evidence.
Your evidence/logic for us being three wolves together is flawed. Not to mention the chance of this is 1/720. And then with AskAlice being the strange man with that combination, is 1/5040.
Continuing onto your next post, the length of posts does not always make a difference. Quality != Quantity.
Nakah can't give information, you definitely were able to show you weren't lying.
But yeah, you can show logs and stuff from other players. But those can also be faked.
[08/21 07:20:59pm] <Universe-X> liek, i r a g8 wulf.
Yeah, pretty easy to fake logs.
SlowPokemon
You cannot rely on Who's online for anything. Especially since you said that SuperRiolu sent the PM to you. By your reasoning right there, you're in an alliance with him and you're both wolves and we should lynch you right now. You're logic that U-X is human is good, but the host cannot reveal information. Role information between the host and players is all strictly private. There is a reason drp was kicked out. Nakah cannot reveale anything, and information obtained from reading into his posts shouldn't be used.
Well, it's night again now.
1. Mashi
2. Concerto No. 20 in D Minor
3. Universe-x
4. SlowPokemon
5. Drpamplemousse
6. Master_Gamer38
7. SuperFireKirby
8. SuperRiolu
9. Jake3343
10. Askalice23
At the end of this phase, there will be 6 people. At the end of the day phase, 5. Meaning, if no wolves have been killed. We lose. I don't think this will be the case. Meaning, night 3 will happen, which will at the end have 4 people. At the end of day 3, 3. That will more than likely be our last chance. Basically, we have to get either our next two lynches right, or we have to hope that we've gotten two wolves already.
Another thing to hope for would be the wolves attempting to wolf the strange man. Which would be a failed lynch.
Anyways, bleck. Time to wait for day.
Alright. Oh, and yes, I have spoken to MG via IRC & chess.com.
I still think askalice could be a wolf, though, but like you said, further evidence.
And, this next part coming from MG's post: If this game still continues by Day 2, we'll know we have 1-2 wolves down. This also means we should start looking at who's most connected with who up to this point... Yes, I know this could possibly mean me and my failed alliance.
More tomor- er, later today.
Quote from: master_gamer38 on August 21, 2010, 09:33:33 PMYeah, pretty easy to fake logs.
SlowPokemon
You cannot rely on Who's online for anything. Especially since you said that SuperRiolu sent the PM to you. By your reasoning right there, you're in an alliance with him and you're both wolves and we should lynch you right now. You're logic that U-X is human is good, but the host cannot reveal information. Role information between the host and players is all strictly private. There is a reason drp was kicked out. Nakah cannot reveale anything, and information obtained from reading into his posts shouldn't be used.
Well, it's night again now.
1. Mashi
2. Concerto No. 20 in D Minor
3. Universe-x
4. SlowPokemon
5. Drpamplemousse
6. Master_Gamer38
7. SuperFireKirby
8. SuperRiolu
9. Jake3343
10. Askalice23
At the end of this phase, there will be 6 people. At the end of the day phase, 5. Meaning, if no wolves have been killed. We lose. I don't think this will be the case. Meaning, night 3 will happen, which will at the end have 4 people. At the end of day 3, 3. That will more than likely be our last chance. Basically, we have to get either our next two lynches right, or we have to hope that we've gotten two wolves already.
Another thing to hope for would be the wolves attempting to wolf the strange man. Which would be a failed lynch.
Anyways, bleck. Time to wait for day.
That pm had nothing to do with TWG(kinda)... I can forward it if you like.
I'm Back!
I was out camping this weekend so I couldn't get in on the intense action but I've read over whats happened while I was gone. Glad I had safetied on someone before I left.
I'm a little bit suspicious of SlowPokemon at the moment.
If you look back to when everyone was voting drp before he got kicked, SuperRiolu was the only one to vote for U-X.
I think that the only reason Riolu voted for U-X was because he was one of the two suspected of being a wolf and chose one instead of the other. Probably a beginner's mistake.
But Slow Pokemon immediately jumped on Riolu, staking a claim that he was a wolf.
Why? Possibly this is what he actually believed. But another possibility is that he was making an attempt to save drp by getting people to change there votes to Riolu.
This is just a suspicion for now.
I really am suspicious of SuperRiolu (and DrP, for that matter) because SR was insisting askalice was human and not to vote for him, with really no evidence at all.
OMG OMG OMG :D lol, I dunno. askalice, I still need some sort of reason why I shouldn't vote for you in the next day phase. Should there be one, of course >_>
Don't think that I'm set on voting for askalice... if he has plausible proof that he's human then by all means I'd like to hear it. :P
sr voted for me.... if he was deadset on me being human why would he vote for me....
also arent you the one who was all buddy buddy with drp??? but wait now you think he was a wolf
it also seems like the whole time you drp and ux were together... look back to page one where ux is says drp and slow you guys should post somehthing for activity... it was a night phase there really isnt activity on the 1st night phase ever...
im human believe what you may there really is no way of proving anyone is actually human in this game so i guess i could send nakahs pm to you xD
Don't even go there, we don't need a repeat performance! xD
And DrP and I are only good friends outside TWG...
I never said I flat-out think he's a wolf. I'm saying it's entirely possible.
And I think u-x said that because we were the only ones who hadn't posted yet (unless I'm mistaken).
You're not anymore the top of my suspects list... but I can't deny that you're still on it.
Oh, btw - of course SuperRiolu voted for you... he didn't want to be lynched and you would only have one less vote than him if he voted you.
Quote from: askalice23 on August 22, 2010, 10:37:53 AMsr voted for me.... if he was deadset on me being human why would he vote for me....
also arent you the one who was all buddy buddy with drp??? but wait now you think he was a wolf
it also seems like the whole time you drp and ux were together... look back to page one where ux is says drp and slow you guys should post somehthing for activity... it was a night phase there really isnt activity on the 1st night phase ever...
im human believe what you may there really is no way of proving anyone is actually human in this game so i guess i could send nakahs pm to you xD
Ok, this is just getting annoying. I'm forwarding you the conversation that drp and I had, because OBVIOUSLY you do not know what I'm saying.
And yes, it is possible that he was a wolf. He could've lied. I don't know. We'll find out tomorrow.
i think he was a wolf which is why i suspected you because you 3 had an alliance (i could be wrong but it seems that way)
the above post about pm sending just kidding i talked to nakah and he said your clean... he also said that we shouldnt just assume anything by it... in no way is his reinstatement giving away any info he would have kicked him regardless of color and then reinstated him regardless... now we wait until it is daytime
Why the heck do you think U-x. DrP and I had an alliance???
No evidence supports that. Just because I think u-x is human doesn't mean I'm one hundred percent sure, nor that that suggests I'm in an alliance with him.
And show me where I said that I had an alliance with DrP, or even alluded to it??? I believe I am the only person so far who has denied it; you all are so set on that thought.
Quote from: askalice23 on August 22, 2010, 11:27:55 AMi think he was a wolf which is why i suspected you because you 3 had an alliance (i could be wrong but it seems that way)
Show me how it seems that way? If you mean that I also think SR is suspicious, I'm NOT repeating my reasons, I've explained it too many times already.
God, just because I talk with someone a lot outside of TWG doesn't mean that you all should go jumping on me that I have an alliance with him! Seriously! I'm getting kind of irritated.
I'm not sure if I get this whole U-x, SP, and DrP alliance. They really don't seem to be in an alliance at all. The only thing holding DrP to the alliance is him picking U-x to have forwarded his role pm, which I don't believe he really did. Why he picked U-x, I don't know. As for Slow, I think all he did was defend U-x, right? That doesn't really mean they're in an alliance...
I don't think that this means Askalice is a wolf, but I am becoming a little more suspicious of him.
I really don't know who to suspect. But what I do know is this - TWG is way more fun with fewer players.
Anyway, starting to get the tiniest bit suspicious of Mashi...maybe more on that later.
it seems that way because...
1. you and drp seem to be like the best of friends until hes in trouble.... drp knows exactly where you are, also last game i played with him as a wolf... and you 2 were all buddy buddy and he believed everything you said and you believed everything he said.
2. why would drp want ux proven a human so badly. who in their right mind would go to trying to break the rules to prove his innocence.
3. you and ux have found some sort of newly found bond and seem to be doing whatever the other one does
ux didnt send the pm however why would drp want to show everyone he is human?
You're honestly one of the... (CALM YOURSELF, SLOW, BEFORE YOU PULL A KEFKATICFANATIC SAY SOMETHING YOU REGRET)
Deep breath, deep breath...
You're annoying me, to say the least.
Anyway:
1.) DrP knows exactly "where I am"? We two were all "buddy buddy"? Explain.
2.) DrP didn't realize he was breaking the rules until it was pointed out to him, I'm guessing. I suppose that doesn't explain why he would lie to prove Universe-x's innocence, unless Universe really did send him the pm. As to whether or not that's true, there's no way of knowing.
3.) What the heck? We are doing whatever the other one does??? I have no agreement with him of any kind about this, and if this is so it's entirely coincidental. I still don't understand what you mean though.
oh no did i upset SLOWpokemon no go ahead make my day and say it...
1. where you are... oh my lover slowpokemon is at school for the rest of the day... buddy buddy read any of the pms drp sent me last game... slowpokemon thinks this guy is the seer, slowpokemon this slowpokemon that
2.ux didnt send the pm.... but well you 2 are defending each other to the death
3. and you 2 both went after superiolu
and i would also like to point out that the reasoning behind you guys thinking mg mashi and superiolu are the wolves is the same reasoning that i think you drp and ux are the wolves
Askalice- Slow and I talk quite a bit in IRC along with MG and lately, Mashi.
I am not a wolf, and after the PM I sent you, I'd think you'd start seeing that, but oh well.
Everything between me and Slow is either coincidence or we talked it out in IRC.
SuperRiolu was bound to die anyway. And it saved you from getting my vote.
I'm rethinking MG and Mashi, but the more I do, the more confused I get. :-\
Lastly, you (and SlowPokemon) need to calm down. A lot. This is just a game, even if it is the only reason why [askalice] comes here. Don't bring those "personal" feelings or insults in here, please.
Quote from: askalice23 on August 22, 2010, 03:13:25 PMoh no did i upset SLOWpokemon no go ahead make my day and say it...
1. where you are... oh my lover slowpokemon is at school for the rest of the day... buddy buddy read any of the pms drp sent me last game... slowpokemon thinks this guy is the seer, slowpokemon this slowpokemon that
2.ux didnt send the pm.... but well you 2 are defending each other to the death
3. and you 2 both went after superiolu
and i would also like to point out that the reasoning behind you guys thinking mg mashi and superiolu are the wolves is the same reasoning that i think you drp and ux are the wolves
Well, quite honestly, now my opinion of you is even lower... with that "oh my lover" comment, I now see that you're immature as well as annoying and grammatically challenged, and I won't even give you the satisfaction getting mad. ::)
1.) He knows I was at school because a) I posted that I was back to school already in the Back to School Thread, b) because it was a weekday, which is when most of we minors do indeed attend school, and b) he knows that I use EDT. Also, some people do indeed have these things called "friends" who know a bit about them.
But, more importantly, even if he knew I was at school, that has absolutely nothing to do with TWG.
2.) I have no recollection of him defending me at all, and the only real thing I did was post my thoughts about he being human.
3.) What do you mean, we both went after SuperRiolu (you'll note that I left out the "who is superiolu" bit of nastiness)? I presented my thoughts about him and voted, and then he read my thoughts and considered my points. Then he voted for you, and changed his vote to give you another chance.
At this point, I have presented my reasoning for my actions multiple times, and you are beginning to sound like a broken record.
To everyone else: unless askalice23 is so annoyed with me that he decides to wolf me tonight, he has my vote for tomorrow until further notice.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 22, 2010, 04:34:11 PMI now see that you're immature as well as annoying and grammatically challenged, and I won't even give you the satisfaction getting mad. ::)
...
I love you.
the voting is so inconsistent its not even funny....... askalice now lets jump to superiolu randomly... unless he sent you something in that pm that was really wolfy i dont see how he should have died... i seem more wolfy than him..
and i forgot the grammar nazis play here.. doesnt seem to be a problem at other sites but apparently here the grammar gods join together... its a forum game not an english class
and how do i annoy you... you didnt get mad until i accused you and ux
The pm was a little "cry for help" from DrP - SuperRiolu was showing me an email from DrP that he wanted to be forwarded to Nakah... it said basically that he was incredibly sorry, he'd be taking a break from NSM for a few days, and he asked that his role be announced. I can forward it to you if you like.
Quote from: jake3343 on August 22, 2010, 04:51:06 PM...
I love you.
I hope that wasn't sarcastic. :P
Blah, I reeeeaaallly want to leave this game unless things start
settling down.
Take this useless shit to PM now, we don't need forward and back flaming, especially during a night phase.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 22, 2010, 04:57:40 PMThe pm was a little "cry for help" from DrP - SuperRiolu was showing me an email from DrP that he wanted to be forwarded to Nakah... it said basically that he was incredibly sorry, he'd be taking a break from NSM for a few days, and he asked that his role be announced. I can forward it to you if you like.
His role can only be announced after the game is over. I don't know what Nakah's planning to do about it. Or why Drp would even take a break from NSM. Really, all he had to do is read the rules [thoroughly] and then the rest of the game is trust, guessing, accusing, all that jazz.
Quote from: universe-X on August 22, 2010, 05:00:32 PMBlah, I reeeeaaallly want to leave this game unless things start settling down.
Got it, I'm sorry.
And I agree, DrP is being kind of strange lately. :P
Quote from: universe-X on August 22, 2010, 05:00:32 PMBlah, I reeeeaaallly want to leave this game unless things start settling down.
as do i... its a forum game not war
if my comments were out of line i apologize....
drp really threw a curve ball into this game
That's where all this chaos started. This was gonna be a good game, 'til drp had to break the rules...
When you think about the whole DrP thing, it's so ridiculous it's comical.
I read "drp really threw a curveball into this game", and I started thinking about what he did. Then I was laughing and asking myself, "What the heck was he thinking?"
I was so mad, I could've broken a wall, no joke.
Yeah, well, you had a right to be... you were almost thrown out because of something he did.
Also - we are officially at the number of pages that TWG VIII ha, and Night 2 isn't even over yet.
Pretty darn good considering we've only got ten players, and one of them was killed the first night, and another was thrown out early.
He had to of been some sort of special role... Just read his 1st night posts
It seemed like he had something to hide and then he did what he did.
Quote from: universe-X on August 22, 2010, 05:05:51 PMThat's where all this chaos started. This was gonna be a good game, 'til drp had to break the rules...
11 pages in only 1 full phase is pretty epic
I know I am dead and all, but I can't let this conversation go on without some truth and everything.
DP is going through a lot right now, and he just couldn't think clearly, like if you have been up for 72 hours and not have any sleep or caffeine to keep you awake. It was probably a minor lapse in judgement and then he tried to go along with it because he realized what he had done and tried to fix it. Nakah pardoned DP for what he did (since I had to forward his long apology letter to him) and I can post it here if you all want to read it.
There's my two-cents (and I know I shouldn't post... but these comments are not pertaining to TWG and more of a war on who's more annoying and has turned into something that doesn't seem fun)
The game is very much still alive. Everyone should just stop complaining and take the game as it comes. None of you are playing perfectly, and from the stance of the host(where I actually know who is who), I'd say not one of you has the right to be thinking lowly of the other, as everyone is doing their job adequately. That's the reason that you're all getting so frustrated, because GOOD TWGs bring out INTENSE debate that leave people in a frantic debating frenzy.
So chill out, if you get voted then that's ultimately beyond your control. Do what you can while you can, and just stop caring so damn much about every little remark someone makes. It will blind you from real advancement in the game.
Oh, and all PMs are in.
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The men all awoke the next morning and went out to the center of the camp. It was quite a different site to see the tent of Mr. MG completely torn apart, and a trail of claw marks lead to some nearby bushes. The men walked closer to the seen, and followed the trail to the bushes, where they found the body of MG in a wrangled fit of flesh and blood.
The men stoked the flames, and tossed MG forever away. Then they all met around the fire and nodded to one another, knowing what next had to be done.
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Night 2 is over. MG is dead. It is now Day 2. Day 2 ends Monday @ 9:00p.m. EST.
Hmm. Interesting, but I didn't really suspect MG anyway. xP
Hmm (again). Master-Gamer dead, though, means that he wasn't a wolf (or the wolves have issues), and he suspected that askalice was human.
It is for this reason and this reason alone that I am holding off on voting (for AA), at least for a little while.
TO #TWG, NOW NOW NAO :|
NO ONE VOTE OR ELSE THE WOLVES MIGHT WOLF RUSH OK?
Which means we all have to agree on someone to lynch. So if you want to have a say, I would suggest you begin chatting with other players, such as in the #TWG Chat.
Also, for reference:
1. Mashi
2. Concerto No. 20 in D Minor Wolfed (Night 1)
3. Universe-x
4. SlowPokemon
5. Drpamplemousse Kicked (Day 1)
6. Master_Gamer38 Wolfed (Night 2)
7. SuperFireKirby
8. SuperRiolu Lynched (Day 1)
9. Jake3343
10. Askalice23
Hrm, I feel as if I should have some inspirational thing to say to lead the remaining people to victory. But I b ded. To the rest of you. Gud luck.
Quote from: master_gamer38 on August 22, 2010, 06:02:37 PMHrm, I feel as if I should have some inspirational thing to say to lead the remaining people to victory. But oh noes, I b ded. To the rest of you. Gud luck.
*fixed
Shit, MG's dead. Not good.
ok this is very bad... we all need to put our differences aside for a bit and try to think here
mashi: seems to be putting much effort into a human win right now so i dont suspect him at all
sfk: not much activity at all... maybe flying under the radar but who knows
jake: not much activity but when active has valid points
ux: you seem to be aligned with slow and i think you guys maybe wolves but then again you guys have a good alliance and it may be for the better
slow: same with ux although you seem to be very vocal and a wolf tends to not be that vocal
now i highly doubt that all 3 wolves are left right now...
no votes for now this is just my thought process
Ok, so 6 Players left. Note that there are like 10 possibilities and Mashi's too lazy to do them all, so he will do the two he thinks are worst case scenarios again.
Lets speak hypothetically, say there are 2 Wolves left, the Strange Man, and 3 Humans left.
Lets say we lynch a Human. That leaves 2 Wolves, Strange Man, and 2 Humans. Then after the Night Phase, it leaves 2 Wolves, a Human, and the Strange Man.
If we lynch a Human, we lose.
If we lynch the Strange Man, we lose.
If we lynch a Wolf, the game continues (Unless Lanterns are recycled, otherwise the Strange Man will win I believe)
Lets say the Wolf wolfs a Human. That leaves a Wolf, a Strange Man, and a Human.
If we lynch the Wolf, we win.
If we lynch the Strange Man, the Wolf wins.
If we lynch err ourself, hehe, it's Wolf VS Strange Man.
Another Scenario:
The Strange Man has to guess 3/5 of the Players to be Lanterns if we lynch a Wolf this Day Phase. Ok, not bad I suppose.
Next Night Phase, lets say that the last Wolf hit another Human (Then it's Day Phase). That leaves 1 Wolf, 2 Humans, and the Strange Man. This means that the 2 Humans and the Wolf must be holding the Lanterns (If Lanterns are recycled when their holders dies).
So if we lynch the Wolf, we win yaaaaay.
If we lynch the Strange Man, the Wolf wolfs someone next Night Phase, leaving 1 Human VS 1 Wolf next Day Phase, or a KitB.
If we lynch a Human, then only 2 people would be able to be holding Lanterns and it's confusing, because of the Strange Man's Role, so I'm not sure about what happens in this scenario.
So after some thinking, it's in our best interest to lynch a Wolf or Strange Man, moreso the Wolf of course. But, I would still like to know what will happen if there are 3 players left during the Night Phase including the Strange Man. Only two living players can hold the Lantern, so what will have happened to the Lantern? This is important to know since it probably has a major effect on the Strange Man.
Here's my analysis so far.
Mashi: Giving very helpful, valid posts. Probably human.
Askalice23: WSas getting very defensive towards SlowPokemon's accusations. Kind of wolfy.
SlowPokemon: Not sure about him. At some points he seems wolfy. Doesn't seem to be acting like a Human.
Universe-X: He makes posts, most of which aren't helpful in anyway. Could be a sign of non-Humaness or it could just be an honest mistake.
Jake: He's been flying under the radar most of this game. He's also lead the lynchings of drp(well would-be lynching) and SuperRiolu. Both reasons make him the most suspicious to me and most likely to be a wolf in my opinion.
For people that were on the chat yesterday, I had to leave :-X. Like a SPLIT SECOND before I was about to press enter and say "I have to go", Universe-x said he was suspicious of me. Then I started to be bombarded with questions and it was awful. Anyway, here's me answering all the questions I can remember.
Slowpokemon asked me what I think of Askalice, I think. Right now, I'm a little suspicious of him, but not too much. I'd say he's my #2 suspicion. My top suspicion is SFK, but more on that later.
Universe-x said he was suspicious of me. There isn't to say to this, though, so I'll wait until Universe-x posts to respond.
So back to SFK. He's my top suspicion, but my reason is really just because everyone else seems human. To me, Mashi, Universe-x, and Slowpokemon all seem like humans. Askalice is iffy. That leaves SFK. He hasn't been that active, so there hasn't been much time to judge him. I'm not going to vote for him yet in case of wolf rush.
GAH. As I was typing this I got that stupid "Warning - while you were typing a new reply has been posted. You may wish to review your post." and it was a post from SFK.
SFK: I'd just like to point out that I didn't even lead the lynching of SuperRiolu, SP did.
That last post has made me think that SFK is a wolf even more. Mostly because of his analysis on me which doesn't even make sense. He's been flying under the radar waaaay more than I have, and leading the lynching of DrP was probably a good thing, as everyone was pretty certain of a wolf.
Still, I'll wait to vote, I guess.
alright looking back into previous posts it was mg who was the 1st to vote sr not jake.
how did jake lead that lynching i dont even think he voted
Alright my bad forgot day 1 took up 8 pages.... Jake did vote for Superiolu 1st but then was never heard from again and slow kept trying to kill him until we butted heads.
I still don't get why you're accusing him of being a wolf for flying under the radar, when you yourself haven't been active. I mean Jake hasn't posted much but when he does its usually helpful.
No vote until later when more come up
Quote from: jake3343 on August 23, 2010, 08:31:11 AMFor people that were on the chat yesterday, I had to leave :-X. Like a SPLIT SECOND before I was about to press enter and say "I have to go", Universe-x said he was suspicious of me. Then I started to be bombarded with questions and it was awful. Anyway, here's me answering all the questions I can remember.
Slowpokemon asked me what I think of Askalice, I think. Right now, I'm a little suspicious of him, but not too much. I'd say he's my #2 suspicion. My top suspicion is SFK, but more on that later.
Universe-x said he was suspicious of me. There isn't to say to this, though, so I'll wait until Universe-x posts to respond.
So back to SFK. He's my top suspicion, but my reason is really just because everyone else seems human. To me, Mashi, Universe-x, and Slowpokemon all seem like humans. Askalice is iffy. That leaves SFK. He hasn't been that active, so there hasn't been much time to judge him. I'm not going to vote for him yet in case of wolf rush.
GAH. As I was typing this I got that stupid "Warning - while you were typing a new reply has been posted. You may wish to review your post." and it was a post from SFK.
SFK: I'd just like to point out that I didn't even lead the lynching of SuperRiolu, SP did.
That last post has made me think that SFK is a wolf even more. Mostly because of his analysis on me which doesn't even make sense. He's been flying under the radar waaaay more than I have, and leading the lynching of DrP was probably a good thing, as everyone was pretty certain of a wolf.
Still, I'll wait to vote, I guess.
Jake, I would like to point out that I did not have access to a computer from 5:30 p.m on Friday to about 12:00 p.m. on Sunday. So I wasn't purposely not posting, I just wasn't able to.
Also SlowPokemon more or less pointed out what that Riolu had not voted for drp and was not sure about voting for SR. But you came in stated your reasoning, and then voted SR which then was followed by by Slow and others. But that was more of an observation than a reason to point the finger at you as a wolf.
You and Askalice still have my top suspicions.
Oh, and another thing. You're playing the same way you did last time you were a wolf. Kind of laying low and playing in a passive-aggressive kind of way. That also raises my suspicion.
Oh, also I'll be in #TWG if anyone wants to have a talk.
Lanterns are not recycled when a player dies. Should a player die with the lantern, it is lost forever.
Quote from: SuperFireKirby on August 23, 2010, 11:50:06 AMOh, and another thing. You're playing the same way you did last time you were a wolf. Kind of laying low and playing in a passive-aggressive kind of way. That also raises my suspicion.
that is true but the last time he was very vocal until he was the last wolf
I found a wolf.
<SFK> Zeta, who is a werewolf?
<Zeta> Colen.
Now who here is named Colen?
Even before all of this I was leaning towards the suspicion that Jake was a wolf... I'm not completely sure, though.
BUT I'm leaving for work and won't be home until after nine, which is after day is ended...
This is a half-safety, half-suspicion thing- I vote for jake3343.
I'm trying to avoid a phantom more than anything, but I can't deny that jake and askalice are still suspicions of mine. :P
Oh, and if Nakah decides to give us an extra 24 hours, I change my vote to no one.
Quote from: SuperFireKirby on August 23, 2010, 01:51:01 PMI found a wolf.
<SFK> Zeta, who is a werewolf?
<Zeta> Colen.
Now who here is named Colen?
I don't get it there isn't anyone in the game named zeta, so how would they know anything about the game.
Nope voting ends in 4 hours.
All right, time to start voting.
I'm actually thinking Askalice a little more than SFK atm.
Oh, I thought voting would end tomorrow. Ooops.
Uhh, I'm going to vote (Though it's more like a safety ;-; ) SFK, since I'm still lost on who to vote for. Mostly because I still have no idea on what Role he could be and I think everyone else seems Human and makes me sad and confused. :(
Quote from: askalice23 on August 23, 2010, 02:14:42 PMI don't get it there isn't anyone in the game named zeta, so how would they know anything about the game.
I'm guessing your not to familiar with NSM chat? Zeta is the NSM chatroom bot who is all knowing and will answer most of your questions.
My gut is telling me Jake is human and I hope my gut is right.
So I'm gonna have to go with my other suspicion,
Askalice.
If he would go in chat, he could defend himself in real-time, but unless that happens or someone slips up, it'll stay on him.
sfk
jumpy with the votes
a few posts ago you were all for killing jake and now you think he is human
I had a nice chat with him on #TWG, it's kinda convinced me toward him being human. More so than you currently, anyways. Go on #TWG chat, we might get somewhere then.
Quote from: SuperFireKirby on August 23, 2010, 03:29:39 PMI'm guessing your not to familiar with NSM chat? Zeta is the NSM chatroom bot who is all knowing and will answer most of your questions.
Yeah i have no idea about anything on NSM chat. I couldn't tell you how to even log on.
http://www.ninsheetm.us/irc/usingirc.php
Back early, hooray. :P
Change vote to askalice23.
One more for an insta (albeit a 28-minute early one).
Oh, also. I'm not saying this means anything, but Mashi keeps defending askalice... In the chatroom he keeps saying that he's sure askalice is human, and shoots down any suggestion that askalice should be lynched. He's voting for SFK now (which doesn't mean anything bad by itself, I guess).
But he's being very defensive of AA. A bit strange, if you ask me. o_o
Wait a second there, that's not completely true. You're saying that I thought askalice23 was Human, but I said I was thinking he was Human for reasons which I can't stress enough. And I haven't shot down any suggestions of him either, I've only disagreed.
Main Reasons I Believe askalice23 is Human:
drpamp accused him and was hoping for him to be lynched. And I think we can all agree that drpamp was a Wolf. Why would a Wolf want to lynch a fellow Wolf? The answer is simple, they don't.
Master Gamer 38 believed that he seemed Human. Master Gamer 38 was also wolfed, meaning he was Human. Since he was Human, then what he believed is trustworthy. I'm still not sure how to explain it, but yeah.
SlowPokemon, I've been going on and off about you. I'm confident you're not a Wolf, but you don't give me Human vibes. I keep putting plain evidence in front of you, but you seem dead set in what you believe. I may be wrong, but I'm quite sure you're the Strange Man at this point.
Quote from: Mashi on August 23, 2010, 05:59:19 PMI may be wrong, but I'm quite sure you're the Strange Man at this point.
You are. Dx
I'm not the strange man, nor am I a wolf... I'm just not an experienced (or good) player, so I don't know how to "act" human. Mostly because I don't have to act, I'm really a human.
I think the strange man may be already dead. Then again, that only leaves DrP and SR. He can't be wolfed, so MG and Concerto are ruled out.
DrPamplemousse was human, I'm almost sure of it. :P He's just been being stupid lately.
The evidence you've put in front of me may be plain to you, but I just disagree. If it makes you feel any better, I don't think you're a wolf either. :P
Also, Askalice is dead as of 38 minutes ago...
We'll find out shortly (if Nakah comes on soon) if we've been doing the right thing...
I need to moat my anger towards the Wolves (Wolf?) right now. They're (It's? Agh, forget it) making me enraaaaaaaaaaged.
Honestly, next Day Phase (If there is one), I don't think I'll have any idea on whom to lynch, I'll just go with the majority does and hope Humans win at some point.
Like I said before, it's way more fun with fewer players.
Farewell it has been a pleasure playing with all of you. Best TWG I've played in on this site
I am happy to be a part of this...
I have wanted to be in TWG since I first started reading the old ones from a few years ago. They all seemed like such fun.
Now I can vouch for that. :)
BUT
Someone's getting killed. Why should we be happy?
Now the wolves could win... What if we killed the wrong person? WHAT IF?
I think it's doubtful. :P
Yay, phantoms + first day of school ftl :'(
Anyways, I think we have a wolf dead now. We'll see soon...
Sorry guys a 36 song update takes quite a while, considering I started around 9:00 p.m. EST and it's now midnight.
Day is Over.
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The men had a terrible day of relentless argument and debate. Not a moment's rest was found.
"AskAlice is a wolf! I know it, just listen to him!" Shouted UX, pointing across the camp at Mr. AskAlice.
"I'm a wolf for pointing out how you and Slowpokemon are very 'close'!?" retorted AskAlice.
"I'm merely speaking up for what I think! Saying this makes you even more wolfy." Shouted SlowPokemon.
"Dumbass." Scarfed AskAlice back.
"Now now, there are several reasons as to why I think AskAlice might just be human." Declared Mashi.
Enraged, SlowPokemon drew a sword and held it's point up to Mashi's face.
"You sound like you have a wolf buddy that you're trying to defend."
"This is blasphemy, you're all way too over-edge about this. Acting out of control like this is going to get us all killed!" Said Mashi in return.
"I've had enough." Said Jake3343. "AskAlice, you have troubled us enough, I think it is you who shall go today."
Enough of the men agreed, and so it was.
AskAlice saw the men begin to encircle him.
"...I will not try to escape. If you kill me now, I will become more than you can possibly imagine." Said AskAlice, looking at the ground in silence, closing his eyes as if meditating upon the circumstance.
SlowPokemon stared at him for a moment then drew his sword, and with one swipe, cut through his clothing around the area of the neck. A clean slice.
AskAlice fell to the ground, but immediately his body disappeared, leaving only his clothing in a ball on the ground.
SlowPokemon's jaw dropped, and all of the men stared in awe. Then SlowPokemon stepped up to the pile of clothes and kicked it to check for any remains. Nothing.
"Literally, what the **** keeps going on. I can't believe this." Said Jake3343.
"That is why you fail." Said Master Yoda, laughing beside a tree.
The men all turned their heads in shock, but by the time they could glance towards the tree, the critter vanished, scurrying off deep into the forest.
The men decided they had enough, and went to sleep.
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It is now Night 3. AskAlice is dead. Night ends Tuesday @ 9:00p.m. EST
Okay, we're now in the final five. Since there is a count at the end of the Day phase, that means we have at least one wolf gone.
That's good. :P
I will be at a loss as to who to vote for, assuming I'm not wolfed.
And that story was hilarious! I got to kill askalice, too! xD
Ok, this seems good. We need to start thinking about who the next (and probably final) wolf is.
I'll probably vote jake tomorrow, assuming I was not wolfed (where is Nakah? :P).
It's so exciting... almost like being in one of those stupid reality TV shows where they vote each other off! xD
Night is over.
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The men woke up and found jake3343 laying face down in the dirt at the center of the camp. The men feared the worst for the poor fellow, and so together they gathered around him, and turned him over facing up.
That's when Jake began coughing rapidly and gasping for breath. He opened his eyes and looked up at the men.
"Jake!? You're alive! Are you alright?" Asked UX.
"Yes, I'm fine." Said Jake. "Whatever attacked me last night didn't succeed in killing me, it would seem." He said, as he brushed off the dirt and revealed only minor scratches.
The men looked around the camp, and no corpse was to be found. It seemed the wolves had not finished the job the night before.
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It is now Day 3. The wolfing has failed. Day 3 ends Thursday @ 9:00 p.m. EST.
Jake is the strange man, we most definitely do not have the guardian.
SFK I'm presuming is a wolf.
And why do we get 48 hours now? Well, actually, that makes sense because the update came later...
:P Gonna vote when I get home from school today, maybe tomorrow.
Since it's now obvious that I'm the strange man, there's pretty much no way for me to win. The lantern keepers did a really good job, as I have no idea who they are.
I'll also say that I'm pretty much certain SFK is the last wolf. The only reason I didn't vote for him Day 2 was because I thought he might be the final wolf, and I wanted an extra night of guessing the three lantern keepers (which I didn't even end up doing because I seriously have no idea at all).
SFK
The lantern keepers can either be living or dead. If all three died, then you must guess the three who died with lanterns.
No! Sfk is human, I'm practically sure of it.
jake, sfk, and universe - change your votes to Mashi.
Mashi is the final wolf is my theory... please, just vote for him today and end night early with an insta. If we haven't won, then you can lynch me next.
If all goes well, I'll give evidence, but for now you'll just have to go with me. xP
Please do as I say... we may win because of it.
Jake is revealing he is the strange man. Well I knew you weren't human so I guess I was half right.
But who is (hopefully) the last wolf?
Mashi? But why? This is either a blind assumption made by Slow, or he might be the seer and know Mashi is the final wolf.
Or he could be the final wolf trying to protect his own hide by getting another human lynched. That way he could take 2 humans out of the game and be that much closer to winning, which could still be possible.
Then there's Universe, who isn't really hasn't contributed much of anything to the human side to help us win. His post are pretty much void of any use to helping the human struggle.
I really don't have any reasons against Mashi as to why he would be a wolf, so until Slow can give me some reasoning, I'm not going to vote.
Okay, got it.
First off, Mashi suggested that he and I form an alliance. Not huge in itself.
BUT know that DrP tried to form an alliance with me last time - he was a wolf. From what I read in the Invader Zim TWG, Pumpy and ETF (I think) formed an alliance... she was a wolf.
Alliances don't end well and it was strange that he suggested it -- note that this was before night one even ended.
Secondly, there's what I said about askalice. I am fairly sure that askalice was a wolf. Mashi keeps defending him under the pretense that Master Gamer assumed him human. He won't hear anything against him.
Also, I'm not a wolf... I understand that this whole thing sounds odd and very suspicious, but I'm quite certain that Mashi is a wolf.
Let's hear his argument, then decide.
It all comes down to who has the more convincing argument. It's more than likely that his will sound more probable, but I have to get that out. So, if you lynch me and then we lose I can safely say that you can't say I didn't offer my help.
Still a vote for Mashi.
Also--
SFK, you suggested that I was the last wolf who was trying to save his own hide...
Don't you think that it would be weird to just pick someone with no evidence against him? No offense, but if I was a wolf, I'd make up fake evidence about you. The others don't need convincing to lynch YOU.
And I'm not the seer.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 25, 2010, 10:57:57 AMNo! Sfk is human, I'm practically sure of it.
jake, sfk, and universe - change your votes to Mashi.
Mashi is the final wolf is my theory... please, just vote for him today and end DAY early with an insta. If we haven't won, then you can lynch me next.
If all goes well, I'll give evidence, but for now you'll just have to go with me. xP
Please do as I say... we may win because of it.
Also, *fixed
Alright Slow, I suppose you really are a Wolf then.
First off, when you first began your vote against me, you said "Lynch Mashi, evidence later", why couldn't you post the said evidence right away? My guess is that you were trying to think of a false and misleading reason to lynch me. Though, you may have been at school at the time, so I'll have to digress on that point. But even so, why couldn't you just write that post later on? Such as when you had the time to? Trying to lynch me in a hurry isn't something a Human would do, especially so early in the Phase.
Anyways, you say that me forming an alliance is wolfish. I disagree. Although it seems that only Wolves have been forming alliances here, but at LLF, forming alliances is one of the key factors to Human victory. As you can see, the way my forum and your forum play the game are different. Not to mention, the last game was a manhunt, there are going to be factors that may change the game in that way(Such as seerings, Lanterns, etc. ), plus the fact that if anyone in the alliance finds the other suspicious, they could just end it. There's also the fact that I said I would like it to be a loose alliance. If it were an actual alliance, we wouldn't have a hint of suspicion about the other player(s) and we would be able to discuss who to vote for etc. up to the point of agreeance. That's the type of alliance a Wolf wants to get into, not a loose alliance where you would want to discuss the game including suspicions or whatnot.
Also, you got the time wrong about when I suggested a loose alliance. It was after Night 1, not before. Not to mention, I wanted it to be a loose alliance for a reason.
Also, you say that the only reason I believe askalice23 isn't a Wolf is because Master_Gamer38 believed so as well. Again, there are other reasons. drpamplemousse wanted to lynch askalice23, and we know drpamplemousse was a Wolf. Once again I ask, why would a Wolf ever want to lead a lynch against another Wolf? That makes no sense at all. The fact that no one seems to notice this is my main gripe right now.
Now a few other things I think should be noted:
SlowPokemon and drpamplemousse both agreed that askalice23 and SuperRiolu were suspicious. drpamplemousse is a Wolf, so we know the people he wanted to lynch can't be Wolves. I'm guessing this is where the theory that SlowPokemon and drpamplemousse were allied started, but it would make sense if they're both Wolves.
SlowPokemon has stated before in the chat that he believed 100% that I was Human because I believed he was a Wolf and would question him, etc. while we were privately chatting. Even so after, he still seemed to be cautious of me. And now he's trying to get me lynched for the same reasons he believed I was a Wolf before, this isn't logical. Unfortunately though I don't think I saved the log.
SlowPokemon
First of all, I didn't post the evidence because I was posting on my DS.
xP
It's really hard, I think you understand that.
Secondly, WE DO NOT KNOW THAT DRPAMPLEMOUSSE IS A WOLF.
And thirdly, this further justifies my theory IMO--you are becoming nervous and posting evidence against ME. Like I expected you would, and you can't really do anything differently at this point.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE listen to me the rest of you guys! Vote for Mashi! You can always lynch me next if I'm wrong!
What kind of a wolf does that???
ALSO
You didn't post it during Day 1--DrP was still in the game.
You're not refuting what I said at all. Of course I'm going to think you're a Wolf, you were trying to push a lynch against me saying you were sure I was a Wolf. And in a situation where practically no one knows who's who, why wouldn't I accuse you? What if there are actually two Wolves left and by lynching me you will win?
And about your remark about drpamplemousse. Tell me, why would a Human ever do something like he did? Even if it's as a joke, why? And why would it be Universe X specifically? These don't add up if he were Human. You defending drpamplemousse is further proving that you and him were Wolves.
Ninja'd: What do you mean? The log jake posted and what went on before that all happened the same day, it was during the Day Phase, I'm very sure about that.
You keep posting useless evidence! As SR said, he was going through a REALLY tough time! He posted something really stupid without thinking and paid for it!
COULD he be a wolf? OF COURSE! But IT IS NOT NECESSARILY PROVEN.
And like I already said! If I was going to push a lynch on someone, I would do it on SFK, who already has "evidence" against him!
Go ahead, lynch me. But you're making a huge mistake if you do.
Slow is right about one thing. We can't base everything on the assumption that dpr was a wolf. He could have very well just made a stupid mistake.
But if Universe-X was the wolf why, would he have voted to lynch askalice who we also(except mashi) assume is a wolf.
I'm regretting voting for askalice because I'm almost sure now that he was not a wolf.
Hell everyone seems like a wolf right now.
I suppose SlowPokemon for now. I may change later, given the circumstances.
Oh and Slow, I really don't have any evidence against me, and if so, would you be so kind as to display it to me?
Brushing off what I say being useless doesn't make whatever I said useless. You haven't refuted anything yet.
You bring up the SuperRiolu scenario. You bring up the fact that he posted something stupid, which was voting for Universe X I'm guessing is what you meant instead of drpamplemousse because he PMed him asking who he should vote for. Granted, SuperRiolu is also a new player, this is his first game. Of course he's going to make a mistake. Not to mention that's different then claiming someone forwarded their Human PM to themselves.
And about your argument about trying to push a lynch against SFK. We've discussed about him many times, and we've always concluded we knew too little about him, which is the only reason why we suspected him to be a Wolf since everyone else seemed Human. What evidence could have been brought up to make him suspicious then? There are also other factors such as him being a Wolf alongside you, which is a possibility.
Myself on the otherhand, whom has been discussing the game with you often, would be much easier to lynch since you could as I said before, create false and misleading evidence to make me suspicious.
Quote from: SuperFireKirby on August 25, 2010, 02:30:47 PMSlow is right about one thing. We can't base everything on the assumption that dpr was a wolf. He could have very well just made a stupid mistake.
But if Universe-X was the wolf why, would he have voted to lynch askalice who we also(except mashi) assume is a wolf.
I'm regretting voting for askalice because I'm almost sure now that he was not a wolf.
Hell everyone seems like a wolf right now.
I suppose SlowPokemon for now. I may change later, given the circumstances.
Oh and Slow, I really don't have any evidence against me, and if so, would you be so kind as to display it to me?
There really isn't, you're right, but Jake is voting for you, and Universe was going to as well, I'm pretty sure. The point is, they would not have needed much convincing.
Quote from: SuperFireKirby on August 25, 2010, 02:30:47 PMI suppose SlowPokemon for now. I may change later, given the circumstances.
You just made Mashi very happy that his plan is working...
I was afraid of this.
IF YOU THINK I'M A WOLF, VOTE FOR MASHI FIRST. IF WE DON'T WIN WHEN HE IS WOLFED THEN LYNCH ME NEXT.
What the heck is so hard to understand about that???
This is going horribly.
The sad part is, one more vote for me and a human is insta'd.
LISTEN to what I'm trying to say.
Except for the part where U-X hasn't voted yet.
SIGH
Well then. This was a failed attempt.
This is saddening me.
Good luck. When you lynch me and don't win, kill off Mashi next, please.
The way SlowPokemon is acting makes me confident that there are 2 Wolves left.
This is because he has been saying many times "Lynch Mashi and if we don't win, lynch me", but if there were two Wolves left, the Wolves would win before SlowPokemon could be lynched. He's also saying that if we lynch him, lynch me next, which if Slow was a Wolf, would only occur if there was another Wolf alive.
I've still got one more day to decide who I think is a wolf
Slow: Even thoug you claim that we should lynch you if Mashi isn't the wolf, that could lead me to believe there are two wolves left, since you are rushing to get Mashi lynched tho we still have one more day. Its kind of odd.
Mashi: Slow has some very good points leading to believe you are the final wolf, but its not very good evidence, and if Slow is in fact, human, my guess is he's going more on gut feeling than hard evidence. But you still are somewhat suspicious.
I leave my vote at Slow FOR NOW. Get it Slow. It doesn't mean this is the definite end for you. You just are in a bad spot. My real suspicion is U-X right now.
Quote from: Mashi on August 25, 2010, 02:43:37 PMThe way SlowPokemon is acting makes me confident that there are 2 Wolves left.
This is because he has been saying many times "Lynch Mashi and if we don't win, lynch me", but if there were two Wolves left, the Wolves would win before SlowPokemon could be lynched. He's also saying that if we lynch him, lynch me next, which if Slow was a Wolf, would only occur if there was another Wolf alive.
That idea's great in theory, but it's still wrong.
SlowPokemon You're getting WAY too defensive this late in the game.
We have 5 people left. Jake doesn't matter at this point (Sorry, but you really don't xP). Strange Man doesn't count for anything.
I'm thinking Mashi is a human at this point.
Also, I'm not putting too much evidence or support because I don't like reading when I come back from school. -__- Sorry, if I had the energy, I would.
Nice job, guys. Real nice. xP
And that's a horrible reason not to read...if you don't feel like reading, then DON'T VOTE.
It doesn't matter now.
INSTA.
Goodbye, and please lynch Mashi next.
YOU ARE NOT INSTA'D. JAKE VOTED FOR ME. YOU'RE NOT DEAD YET.
You, u-x, and Mashi=3. we have five players. 3 is the majority.
And I chnge my vote to Mashi anyway. I've just got a bad feeling that he's the wolf. Slow really doesn't seem to be acting very wolfy in defending himself so yeah.
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU
I believe the three wolves are Mashi, askalice, and SR.
wtf you guys. I'm not sure how it could be more obvious that SFK is a wolf. While I could make a huge post showing everyoen, I won't because I don't really care if the humans win.
In fact, now I get an extra guess on the lantern keepers because SFK's wolfing failed.
jake3343, I'm going to have to ask you a favor. Next Phase, one of the Humans will die. That will leave a Human(Universe X or I), a Wolf (SFK), and you the Strange Man.
So I've been working as hard as ever this game and I'm going to ask you, do you think you could help the Humans win next Phase? Pleeeeeeeeeease?
I'm just lost and I may change my vote again, but now I'm positive Slow's a human. He would have acted much differently in his defense. That changes if there's another wolf, but I have a strong feeling there's only one(God, I hope so). And if Mashi's not the a wolf then it's U-X. Or it's both of them either way, unless Slow's a wolf which I currently highly doubt. Humans can easily win this. Unless Jake guesses the three lantern holders correctly which I think has very little chance of happening.
Once again, I'm put in a dilemma with Mashi's newest post. Now I'm thinking that Mashi is human. But it could just be a ploy to make himself seem human.
And Mashi is also forgetting about Slow who is right now tied in votes for lynching with himself.
And I'll tell you this Mashi, Jake is dead wrong, and the humans will lose if you lynch me next round. But of course this is TWG and its alot harder to convince people than with the plain truth. And here I go, talking to Mashi as if I believe he's human, which I probably do. But Slow is a human. The fact that I'm supporting him right now has pinned me down as a wolf in Mashi's mind if he is ,in fact, a human in the same way that Mashi supporting Askalice made Slow point his finger straight at Mashi.
My vote stands for now.
But it seems that U-X is really the only one I don't have mixed feelings about. He's suspicious and I trust him less than Mashi who I'm currently voting to lynch. I might change my vote to U-X tomorrow. It just all depends how the rest of this day plays out.
Mashi- whatever you have to say, say it soon. And you know what I mean.
SFK
I'm gonna trust Slow for now. I'm not gonna explain. :)
Actually, day is over due to Slow getting insta'd. I just realized that. :P
♫ fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck ♫
FUCK
Mashi isn't the seer, I'm also fairly sure of that.
I'm pretty sure that's what you meant, U-x. And I don't agree.
Hurry up Nakah! xD
Quote from: universe-X on August 25, 2010, 05:48:35 PMMashi- whatever you have to say, say it soon. And you know what I mean.
To be honest, I don't actually.
He thinks you're the seer. ::)
And you're the final wolf, duh.
*confusion*
Quote from: SuperFireKirby on August 25, 2010, 05:36:19 PMBut it seems that U-X is really the only one I don't have mixed feelings about. He's suspicious and I trust him less than Mashi who I'm currently voting to lynch. I might change my vote to U-X tomorrow. It just all depends how the rest of this day plays out.
Don't change your vote! He's just a VERY confused human.
VOTE FOR MASHI, I TOLD YOU ONCE AND I'LL TELL YOU AGAIN.
Y'all will be sorry... ._.
I don't know if it's too late now, though :-\
It is, I'm already insta'd. But on the next day phase eliminate Mashi.
When he's not wolfed and you or SFK is, it will all make sense.
You are already insta'd Slow. I couldn't change it. And U-X is the last wolf. I know it. I counted 2 posts that you've made that have actually had any use for the human side. You didn't vote for DPM, you tried to change you vote off of Slow, and then released a string of profanity when you realized you insta'd him. Now I'm sure that both you and Slow are wolves.
And you changing your votes every now and then isn't suspicious?
Quote from: SuperFireKirby on August 25, 2010, 06:29:01 PMYou are already insta'd Slow. I couldn't change it. And U-X is the last wolf. I know it. I counted 2 posts that you've made that have actually had any use for the human side. You didn't vote for DPM, you tried to change you vote off of Slow, and then released a string of profanity when you realized you insta'd him. Now I'm sure that both you and Slow are wolves.
OH MY FRICKIN' GOD.
I thought you understood the situation.
U-x is human, as am I.
MASHI IS THE FRICKIN' FINAL WOLF!
GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD! xD
But, no more posts for me. I'm insta'd.
Great game, really fun.
Congratulations, u-x. You're the only other human with someone who doesn't get it as your partner.
Meh, it's just a game xD
Hahaha.
Something you should all know about insta's. Once the majority vote is hit, the insta is immediate.
Therefore, Day is over.
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All of the men that day talked for a while about who to lynch. Although, it was not long before the majority made a decision on a suspected fellow camper. It was to their dismay that the decision was already final when they regretted choosing him, but what was done was already done.
So Slowpokemon was backed into a corner by his tent, and the men encircled around him, closing in with spears and rope. Then slowpokemon fell to the ground and shrieked in terror.
*CRRAAAAACCCKKK!* The men suddenly turned to see a massive tree beginning to fall towards them. They all jumped out of the way and rolled across the campsite.
Slowpokemon scurried to his feet and glanced at the tree. It had fallen only a few feet from him, sparing him from being crushed.
"Look!" Screamed Jake, pointing to a glowing light by the tree.
The light morphed into an apparition of AskAlice, returned from the Nether side of the Force.
"HOLY ****" Said Jake, again.
AskAlice paid no attention to the men, and turned towards SlowPokemon.
"No...Noooo! Not me!" Screamed SlowPokemon.
AskAlice laughed, and spoke in a strange tongue "Rhem nem Khenemset. Nek Rafik ki." Suddenly, his being began to glow, and the surroundings around him grew darker, as if some sort of energy were concentrating on him.
SlowPokemon's eyes rolled backwards into his head, and he began to seizure rapidly against the ground.
The apparition only grew brighter and brighter, until all that could be seen what his glow and slowpokemon writhing on the ground.
Then the apparition disappeared and the surroundings returned to normal. Slowpokemon suddenly came to consciousness and began gasping for breath.
The men were petrified to move.
Slowpokemon stood up, and brushed his shoulders off.
"Well, not so ba-" *WHOOOOOOOOOOOSHHH*
Suddenly the bonfire bursted with flames skyward as the apparition emerged in a wave of fire, spurting out at slowpokemon, engulfing him instantly in flames.
"AHHHHH!!!!" He began to scream.
There was nothing that could be done. Slowpokemon burned to a crisp, and no trace of his dust remained. The men decided that it'd be best to leave the apparition alone, and so all of them went to sleep.
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It is now Night 4. SlowPokemon is dead. Night ends Thursday @ 9:00p.m. EST.
Well, we know askalice was a wolf. we also know there is only one wolf left.
Quote from: SuperFireKirby on August 25, 2010, 06:46:10 PMWell, we know askalice was a wolf. we also know there is only one wolf left.
This. And I think you might've meant SlowPokemon? Oh well, he kinda showed the "ANXIOUSNESS" anyways ;D
Jake's the strange man, we all know.
But now I'm in a mindfuck. SFK accuses SlowPokemon. SlowPokemon accuses Mashi. But SlowPokemon, obviously is a wolf now. This leads me to think that SFK is the last wolf. Comments?
Actually, jake3343's the one who's in control of the game now, so it doesn't really matter anymore.
And yes, I'm very sure that SFK is the last Wolf as well.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 25, 2010, 06:57:41 PMNakah--I know I can't post, but please tell them that just because the story says askalice killed me doesn't mean I'm a wolf.
I think you just did. But, please, you have no influence in the game as of now. :-\
Well, it's obvious I'm going to die. Maybe I just acted to suspiciously to keep the human aire about me. Am I admitting I'm a wolf? No. Because I'm not. But I already know I'm going to get lynched. I know I won't get wolfed because whoever the wolf is is going to want to keep me alive to protect them from any accusations. All I can say to my fellow humans is when I'm lynched, be prepared to losse, because that's what is going to happen.
Fellow humans, lol, I'm the only other human left xD
No, I'm not saying you're a human. But there's always a possibility.
All right SFK, I'm voting for you next phase. You might be able to convince me to vote for U-x, as I'm becoming slightly weary of him. Not Mashi, though, as I am absolutely certain he is human, and there is nothing that you can say to convince me otherwise.
k, I just pm'd my guess to Nakah. I guessed askalice, Mashi, and MG were the lantern keepers, and I'm pretty sure I'm wrong.
oh well.
lol, I'm a little excited :P (Random, btw)
This might be the first game that I survive to the end. And even better, we humans might win! :D
You should all re-evaluate the game and read through everyone's posts from the beginning that is still alive. No one should be backing down now, wolf or not. The game is not at any team's advantage right now, and you're all in peril of losing if you don't focus and think this through.
Edit* Everyone who posted after their death has had their post removed. AskAlice is happy to avenge his own death, but the story is completely irrelevant to the game other than what the failed wolfing was. So take nothing from it.
Quote from: jake3343 on August 25, 2010, 08:05:47 PMAll right SFK, I'm voting for you next phase. You might be able to convince me to vote for U-x, as I'm becoming slightly weary of him. Not Mashi, though, as I am absolutely certain he is human, and there is nothing that you can say to convince me otherwise.
I think Mashi is human as well, unless something big happens that can convince me otherwise, or I find some major piece of evidence.
Night is over. All PMs are in.
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The men awoke and found UX dead.
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It is now Day 4. Universe-X is dead. Day ends Saturday @ 9:00 p.m. EST
Mashi
Well, I tried hard for the Humans, so making it this far makes me happy at least. It was a really close game.
SFK
I've made it at least that far. ;D
Good luck to the humans.
Mashi
Slow was right. Sorry Slow for not believing you. I did try to change my vote but it was too late. I'd say you're the mvp.
oh and INSTA!
HEY NAKAH, CAN I SCAPEGOAT EVERYONE????
hahahaha JAKE WINSSSSSSSSSSS
So... Who won? :P
The Wolves.
Mashi won.
Ever since u-x's lynching there have been an equal amount of humans and wolves...
That would be the case, but fortunately there's a count at the end of day phase, not night.
In other words,
SUCK IT
You lost!
HAHAHAHA!
I demand a rule change. :(
Also, I'm stealing Role Reveal, because angry.
Master Wolf - askalice23 [Lantern]
Wolf - SuperRiolu
Wolf - Mashi
Seer - Master_Gamer38 [Lantern]
Strange Man - jake3343
Human - SlowPokemon
Human - Universe-X
Human - SuperFireKirby
Human - Concerto in D. Minor [Lantern]
Human - drpamplemousse
Soo.... Humans won...? I guess that's that then. o.o
Slow definitely deserves MVP.
Mashi you liar D;
You forgot the lanterns, Mashi
And omg Mashi's in denial.
The strange man was put in without a lot of thought... there's no way for him to "win"
No, Strange Man could easily joint with either side. Had I been the Master Wolf, I would have told jake3343 the Lanterns (Assuming none of them gave them out) since askalice23 was a Lantern.
EDIT: I put Lanterns, as far as I know, in.
NO EDITING POSTS EVER IN TWG
XD
Not quite Will, because he didn't correctly guess the three lantern keepers(but he came oh so close, missed it by only one person, and that was Concerto).
Anyways.
I-I-INSTAAA!!!
What a way to end the game, epiphanies all around.
In other words, Mashi is dead. Therefore, HUMANS WIN! Why? because Jake's role involved a special item that made masked his color as green. Therefore, all seerings done on him returned as green, and there has been a positive green to red count all game.
Hurray! A legitimate Human victory amidst the perils of a Strange Man victory.
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The men decided they had enough of this game. Although it was apparent that the Strange Man, who had bestowed this curse upon the men, was walking amongst them, his presence did not alarm the men. For they did not know that his mere presence meant certain doom if the lantern's were discovered.
"That's it, I'm speaking on behalf of what I know and what Slow wanted to tell us when we would not listen." Said SFK. "Mashi, you're the last of the wolves."
Jake turned to Mashi and said "So it seems you've been discovered, I am sorry, but you are now going to fully transcend into the creation I have made you."
With that, Jake began to smile and turned to SFK. He stretched out his arm, and held it over Mashi's head.
Suddenly Mashi began to shake and convulse, and his pupils shrank to a tenth of their normal size.
Mashi fell upon all fours, and began coughing, which turned to a growl, and then to a full-roaring howl as hair and fur began to shoot from his chest and his ears perked up towards the night sky.
The Moon was rising.
Then Jake said "Let me show you just what you are really up against." And with that, Jake's body collapsed dead.
SFK stared at the corpse for a moment, wondering what just happened. Mashi stood still, panting patiently as if waiting for his master to return.
Suddenly the flames of the bonfire went out, and the camp went completely dark.
SFK looked around frantically, and scurried around the camp searching for his tent. At last he had found it, and he ran inside and drew a silver sword from the chest he had been keeping safe(incase of an emergency such as this).
Suddenly SFK heard a sound, and so he rushed out of the tent, and to the disbelief of his own eyes, the entire camp was in flames.
"Good God..." Said SFK, not knowing what to do.
Flames then began to rise from within the deeper parts of the forest, and filled the night sky with smoke. Eventually everything in site was burning, and a thick cloud of smoldering ash and debree began to obscure his vision. SFK fell to his hands and knees and looked up, only to see the still patient Were-Mashi panting on the ground, waiting.
SFK tried to crawl his way towards the werewolf, and with the silver sword in his hand he prepared for what would be the final blow on the Werewolf.
Suddenly, as SFK approached the Werewolf to within striking distance, the thick cloud of smoke burst away, clearing a circle surrounding the two.
SFK rose to his feet, sword in his hand, dust and ash falling from his shoulders onto the ground. SFK stared at the Werewolf, which only stared back at him.
"A-WOOOOOOO!!!" Howled Mashi, lifting his head towards the sky.
It was then that SFK looked up and saw a green ball of light glowing amidst the murky darkened cloud.
"LANTERNS!" Shouted the green light. "WHERE IS THE LAST OF THE LANTERNS!" "ALL BUT ONE!"
The green light descended from the sky in a brilliantly luminescent glow. The figure of a very old man appeared, with a glowing green lantern in his hand.
"YOU STOLE THE LAST OF MY LANTERNS. RETURN IT TO ME NOW!" Screamed The Strange Man.
"I haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about!" Shouted SFK over the roaring flames surrounding them.
"THEN DIE!" Shouted back the Strange Man, bursting into a ball of light and rushing at SFK.
SFK quickly ducked and kicked sparks from the flames up into the rushing ball.
The Strange Man screamed in agony, and returned to his human manifestation.
"LANTERNS! WHERE ARE THEY!?" The Strange Man repeated, searching frantically around the burning camp for the last supposed lantern.
SFK decided it was now the time to strike. He quickly picked up his sword and rushed at Mashi, and with one quick stab, delivered the final blow, straight into the heart of Mashi.
Mashi's body turned petrified, and dropped to the ground.
The Strange Man let out an un-wordly shriek, and turned towards SFK.
"The last of the wolves has been eliminated, you have lost." Declared SFK.
Then the Strange Man laughed and said "You cannot defeat me, I am beyond your mortal shell."
SFK was at a loss of words. It was true, how could he defeat one who englufed the entire forest in flames within moments.
Then SFK looked down at they ash covered and charred ground, and saw a faint glow over by the fire pit where the bonfire had been. SFK rushed towards the pit, and began to dig through the dust(which was composed of the burned victims that were once men). Suddenly, SFK felt something.
SFK's hands closed around a lantern, attached to what appears to be the remains of Concerto.
The Strange Man looked up instantly "YOU! YOU HAVE FOUND IT! GIVE IT TO ME NOW!" Screamed the Strange Man.
SFK looked at the Strange Man, and then back at the lantern. For a moment he only stared in silence, then with one motion, he threw down the lantern, smashing it across the ground, and extinguishing it's flame.
"NOOOOO!!!" Screamed the Strange Man. His green glow immediately faded away, and he fell to his knees in agony. His skin flushed red and his age caught up with his body. He was mortal now.
SFK walked slowly towards the mortal man. "Your time is done."
The old man began to crawl backwards away from SFK, begging to be spared while cursing his name.
SFK dropped his sword and walked up to the old man, grabbing him by the neck and dragging him to the center of the bonfire pit. The old man gasped for breath and struggled to break free, but was too weak.
SFK picked up the Evergreen Lantern that no longer emitted light, and dumped the remaining lighter fluid into the pit and over the old man. Then from his pocket he drew his last match.
"You have not won. I will return." Said the old man.
SFK lit the match, and dropped it into the bonfire pit, and immediately the old man was engulfed in roaring flames that burned green. His body was burnt to ash, and SFK watched the fire burn all the way, to ensure the old man's execution.
SFK then became dizzy from all of the smoke, and passed out onto the ground.
The next morning SFK awoke to a desolate wasteland of ash and debree. He stood up, and looked around to find that nothing but him had survived. SFK walked over to the bonfire pit and collected the ashes of the old man, and carried them in a jar to a nearby river that flowed from the village of Nakylvania atop of the mountains to North of the campsite.
"At last, it is over." Said SFK, dumping the jar of ash into the river, watching as it carried the old man's remains away to the ocean.
SFK stayed by the river for a while, then stood up and began to walk towards the mountains. He had heard of a high Count that resided amongst the villagers, and was eager to set out for a new life in Nakylvania.
The sun began to set that day as SFK walked alone towards the mountains through the charred wastelands of the once-lush forest. Night settled in, and as the moon rised high amongst the stars, all that could be heard was a calm silence. Peace at last.
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THE GAME IS OVER. CONGRATULATIONS HUMANS. POST GAME THREAD COMING SOON.
See! I was a human after all!
SuperRiolu told me everything, and Mashi got it spot on. It looks like I learned some things (and I have effectively read the last games on this site). I can't wait to try out some new, LEGAL tactics the next game (that is, if I'm not doing something else)
Hey jake3343, you're the worst dad everrrr.
So i vote mvp goes to slow
The only problem with that story is that I was Count Deku of Nakylvania. S
And we wouldn't have won without Slow , even if I did slay Mashi with a silver sword.
I personally loved the story... it almost made me want to host a game... but i have way too much fun playing
well maybe sometime in the future i'll host
I may be hosting a future one... I have a long list of some pretty nice stories, that might make a good TWG! I think I would be a better host than a game player (but I may always go for some more game fun... minus IRC)
Mashi did good acting as a human, we'll have to watch for him next time around.
And guess who's about to have his first game of TWG? ;D
Enter the Jub!!!
Is there really a post-game thread coming soon? Cause if not, I want Nakah to do his "posty thingy" where he names all the players and says what they did wrong or right, and name mvp. :P
Well, we all know what I did wrong... haha :P It was just merely a slap on the wrist, nothing more
Funniest quote in TWG IX (outside of story):
"Yeah, DrP really threw a curveball into this game..." (askalice)
xD
I liked how askalice avenged his death after I killed him.
>_> @drp :P
I feel like I played a little better than my previous games... I was still clueless, apparently, to the roles, etc.
Quote from: universe-X on August 27, 2010, 02:17:10 PM>_> @drp :P
I feel like I played a little better than my previous games... I was still clueless, apparently, to the roles, etc.
... and I felt like I played a bit worst than my previous game... I knew almost everyone's roles by the end of night one, didnt know the lanterns though
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 27, 2010, 02:13:46 PMFunniest quote in TWG IX (outside of story):
"Yeah, DrP really threw a curveball into this game..." (askalice)
xD
I liked how askalice avenged his death after I killed him.
That's my job! haha :P
Quote from: SuperFireKirby on August 27, 2010, 12:35:28 PMThe only problem with that story is that I was Count Deku of Nakylvania. S
And we wouldn't have won without Slow , even if I did slay Mashi with a silver sword.
Aww, thanks. You would have won sooner had you not lynched me. xD