Poll
Question:
What newcomer do you want to see as DLC?
Option 1: King K. Rool
Option 2: Snake
Option 3: Geno
Option 4: Shovel Knight
Option 5: Banjo
Option 6: Professor Layton ahahaha if he gets picked i'd be surprised
Option 7: someone else i'm forgetting
Quote from: MaestroUGC on July 13, 2013, 08:41:43 PMAlso, this is not the place to be talking about Smash Bros.
This is.
It is when you change the topic to "Super Smash Bros. for Wii U and Nintendo 3DS"
Quote from: SlowPokemon on July 13, 2013, 09:41:00 PMIt is when you change the topic to "Super Smash Bros. Fisticuffs"
ftfy
also,
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on July 13, 2013, 08:29:19 PMI wouldn't mind them replacing Ganondorf with Ghirahim
made me sad :<
Quote from: Dude on July 13, 2013, 10:59:28 PMalso,made me sad :<
dont tell me you dont like ghirahim!
I don't even know who that is but i love Ganondorf so irdc
EDIT: I love you Yugi.
oh my
I can't post pictures right now to show you but ghirahim is a million times more fabulous than ganondorf any day
Quote from: Clanker37 on July 13, 2013, 11:31:32 PMImplementing characters from puzzle games into fighting games must be really difficult. You have to make up moves and shizz. It'd be like introducing a Tetris block.
He's not just a puzzle character though. If they managed to make the Villager a character they should be able to get Layton too, hes as peaceful as it gets. It's been discussed before, but Layton has plenty of things that could be used as attacks
like game mcguffins or something?
Also, snake won't go out that easily either, the reason Snake is in Smash Bros in the first place is because Sakurai and some other guy (the creator of Metal Gear Solid) are friends in real life.
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on July 13, 2013, 11:42:15 PMI can't post pictures right now to show you but ghirahim is a million times more fabulous than ganondorf any day
*checks paheal*
...not really. :P
Gunstar Heroes
A game can never have enough Gunstar Heroes, especially when that game IS Gunstar Heroes.
I mean, look at that!!
Oh!
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/80/Gunstar_Heroes.jpg/250px-Gunstar_Heroes.jpg)
Oh, my, the wonder!
Look at this guy!
Good Grief!
(http://coreofthepixel.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Gunstar-Heroes-Golden-Silver.jpg)
Would he not be perfect!? Oh my, he looks ready to kill some people!! :o
Seriously, though... I'd like to see some more Sega characters. :3
LIKE THIS GUY!!!
(http://www.blisteredthumbs.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/BT_AlteredBeast.jpg)
OH YEAH!
Quote from: Dude on July 14, 2013, 12:20:14 AM*checks paheal*
...not really. :P
Lol actually she's correct.... He's kind of a creeper to Link and he's a bit cooler than Ganondorf imo. I doubt we'll see either of them though, to be honest.
No more Ganondorf? :( He was one of my good characters...
I just hope they still have Fire Emblem characters. I'm good with those, too. If all else fails, at least I'll still have Fox.
I dont think they'd get rid of Ganondorf, though I would want them to. Hes kinda a main character in a big franchise.
Still, it would be nice if they would limit the less popular games to one character so they leave room for other less popular games i just really want layton in there ok
As cool as Layton would be, I don't think it's extremely likely. Don't get me wrong, I'd LOVE seeing the professor in the game, but I think the three newcomers revealed at E3 may be all we're getting.
I wouldn't be so sure. Brawl had 12 newcomers, not including the guest characters. I think we'll be seeing at least a couple more this time.
Quote from: Dudeman on July 14, 2013, 12:39:05 PMI wouldn't be so sure. Brawl had 12 newcomers, not including the guest characters. I think we'll be seeing at least a couple more this time.
That may be, but we also have to remember that there are some space limitations, considering they're putting it on a handheld. The rosters will also probably have to be similar, since they've hinted at cross-platform connectivity.
Space shouldn't be an issue, since Brawl was like 8GB, but almost half of that was from the cutscenes in the SSE. 3DS game cards can hold up to 8GB, and it's been said that there won't be as many grand cutscenes this time, so the limitation wouldn't be due to a lack of space.
The rosters were confirmed to be the same too btw.
As for Layton... I don't really expect him. Like, I'm sure they could come up with moves if they wanted to, but isn't he third-party? Sakurai said that Mega Man was a special case, so we shouldn't expect too many more. I think you mentioned GameFreak, but Nintendo owns Pokemon too, and Game Freak develops exclusively for Nintendo, so I think it's a different case.
Quote from: K-NiGhT on July 14, 2013, 12:03:40 PMI just hope they still have Fire Emblem characters.
That's all I'm waiting to hear on, since I already got Mega Man. Marth's all I need now.
Quote from: Echo on July 14, 2013, 01:05:39 PMThat's all I'm waiting to hear on, since I already got Mega Man. Marth's all I need now.
BRING BACK ROY
This is really old but relevant:
http://m.ign.com/articles/2009/07/02/professor-layton-joins-smash-bros
Quote from: K-NiGhT on July 14, 2013, 12:30:07 PMAs cool as Layton would be, I don't think it's extremely likely. Don't get me wrong, I'd LOVE seeing the professor in the game, but I think the three newcomers revealed at E3 may be all we're getting.
I agree with this. I don't foresee any more new characters.
Also Layton is first party, Echo.
Quote from: K-NiGhT on July 14, 2013, 12:42:17 PMThe rosters will also probably have to be similar, since they've hinted at cross-platform connectivity.
Last time I checked, they confirmed there would be no cross-platform connectivity.
^yeah they're confirmed to have different stages too.
Quote from: K-NiGhT on July 14, 2013, 01:07:33 PMBRING BACK ROY
I'd only want Roy back if he's de-cloned. He has a sword that shoots out fire, so let us shoot fire! >_>
Quote from: SlowPokemon on July 14, 2013, 02:16:39 PMAlso Layton is first party, Echo.
It is...?
Scroll down to the bottom here:
http://iwataasks.nintendo.com/creators.html
Also this:
http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=642.0
And this:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/633202-/64141229
Basically, Google's been telling me that Layton's third-party, considering those games are developed by Level-5.
Quote from: Olimar12345 on July 14, 2013, 02:52:43 PMLast time I checked, they confirmed there would be no cross-platform connectivity.
You can't battle between systems, but there's supposed to be some other feature involving connection between the two games.
No, it's a "second party game" but those don't technically exist. It's developed by Level-5, published as a first party Nintendo game, just like Pokemon. (Saying Pokemon is a third party game is also incorrect)
The second link I posted mentions that Nintendo doesn't publish it in Japan, and Nintendo only publishes Layton internationally to help out Level-5. From what I understand, Pokemon's jointly owned by Nintendo and Game Freak, which is different from Layton's situation.
That's just what I'm getting from the internet though. I don't really know the exact details, but that's what the sources I've read have said. If you have a different source then I'd like to see it, just because just about every search result I've found says that it's third party. >_>
I don't know about Japan... I'm going by USA, and it is published as a first party game in the USA. Here's one way to determine it:
You can tell if a 3DS game is first-party by looking at the spine. If it has the Nintendo logo at the bottom of the spine of the case, then it's first party. If it doesn't, then it isn't. For instance, games such as Super Mario 3D Land and Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon have the logo, while games such as Resident Evil: Revelations and Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance do not. In the case of Pokemon and Layton, the Nintendo logo is indeed on the spine at the bottom, but just above that is the Level-5 logo (for Professor Layton) and the Game Freak logo (Pokemon).
Ah, I see what you mean. But like I said, Layton's not first party, it's just that they get Nintendo to localize and publish it internationally. Like the Iwata Asks link I posted, it has Layton alongside those other third party titles you mentioned, like KH3D and Resident Evil.
I looked up the boxart for Miracle Mask:
North American:
http://image.gamespotcdn.net/gamespot/images/box/7/8/4/997784_171952_front.jpg
European:
http://image.gamespotcdn.net/gamespot/images/box/7/8/4/997784_203284_front.jpg
Japanese:
http://image.gamespotcdn.net/gamespot/images/box/7/8/4/997784_172154_front.jpg
If you look at the bottom right corner of those pictures, you'll see the Nintendo logo on the North American and European ones, but not on the Japanese one. And obviously the Japanese release is what matters most for determining whether the title's a third-party one or not.
I like how only one character was confirmed and people start panicking about potential cuts/uninclusions from the roster.
Especially when said character already appeared in Brawl and is a part of a franchise with a new game coming out soon.
There's also no way we'd get only three newcomers.
Quote from: K-NiGhT on July 14, 2013, 01:07:33 PMBRING BACK ROY
They're likely going to put Chrom instead.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on July 14, 2013, 02:54:35 PM^yeah they're confirmed to have different stages too.
Yeah... This SSB gets better and better... >.>
Well, at least Olimar is confirmed. I was afraid they would remove him. :D
^why is it bad that the two games are getting different stages? Would you want identical ones?
why is it good in first place? It's unfair for people that will/can only buy one version, they don't get the full thing. SSB is not Pokemon, it doesn't need different versions of the same game to be more "varied". They're basically (not really forcing) inducing you to buy both versions when you could have everything in one complete and good version, like with the other SSB games!
It's like if you split Brawl stages in two and move half of them to an unnecessary DS version. Would you like that? :P
And they have the same roster, why not the same stages then? Why not have Gerudo Valley or Regna Ferox Arena in the Wii U version too, for example? I don't really see the point in this.
I like to think the other version is "extra content" instead of "the full thing". I'm sure both versions will be smashing successes and people won't really give a shit since they'll be happy on what you already have.
It depends on your psychological perspective, whether you think it's extra content rather than the full thing.
The point is, that the Wii U will have stages from home consoles (mainly the Wii U) and the 3DS will have the portable side. The aim is to make the people who only have a Wii U, get the stages from the Wii U, since it would be a waste to give them a 3DS stage, since they won't get the reference. They are ensuring that if you get the Wii U version, you get the Wii U stages and stuff that you can relate to.
The games will be similar game play, they're just spreading their seeds a little bit by appealing to the portable market. Both games will have the same depth as the other, so really you only have to buy one to get the full 'SSB experience.' If only buy one, you're going to have the same amount of fun than if you bought the other or both. And it would be silly to have identical stages. Only the fact that they can talk to each other is a positive in this scenario. By differing, they ensure that the games are individual, not just a rehash, and thus they will be better.
I could rant further, but I think you get the point.
EDIT: God damn it FSM
Quote from: DonValentino on July 15, 2013, 08:22:59 AMIt's like if you split Brawl stages in two and move half of them to an unnecessary DS version. Would you like that? :P
What's interesting is that it's kind of the reverse situation for Smash 4, since Sakurai said that the initial development consideration was to have this game only for the 3DS, instead of for two platforms.
Also as long as there's some sort of Final Destination-esque stage on both versions, most people will be happy.
Dude, your getting worked up over nothing. Who seriously cares about stages that aren't final destination or the temple?
Edit: fuckin ninjad 4x's! :P
^ Fountain of Dreams is my favourite, so I hope that makes a comeback. It has the best music and it's so pretty.
The stages we were shown were pretty cool though. I like the 3DS ones better so far, like Arena Ferox and Battlefield.
^i actually kinda liked the boxing arena stage that was shown when the villager came in. perhaps that may be in the 3DS as well?
I'm extremely hyped for the Kid Icarus stage and the KI remixes.
Also the Mega Man 2 Dr Wily stage theme argggggggh do want
ninja'd
So does anybody have more speculation on new characters? I think Chrom from Fire Emblem: Awakening would be a good choice alongside Marth, since Arena Ferox is from the same game.
Well, one idea that I read about that I thought was really cool was having Chrom paired up with Robin, with them fighting side by side like the Ice Climbers, but having unique moves and being able to switch leads, like transforming as Zelda/Sheik. It'd be a neat reference to Awakening, because the Pair Up mechanic's newly introduced by that game. I don't have high hopes for the idea being implemented though, since it's been said that they're struggling with characters like the Ice Climbers already.
I guess Mewtwo's new form has a shot at showing up. It'd bring back a popular character from Melee, but still show the freshness of Gen 6.
Personally I want Isaac from Golden Sun too, but I don't really expect him either.
Now would NOT be a good time for Nintendo to remove Ness just because America is finally getting his game on Virtual Console.
Quote from: Olimar12345 on July 15, 2013, 08:47:36 AMDude, your getting worked up over nothing. Who seriously cares about stages that aren't final destination or the temple?
Edit: fuckin ninjad 4x's! :P
I hate both of these stages. >.>
Do you people really think they'd remove the original 12?
Quote from: MaestroUGC on July 15, 2013, 10:51:28 AMDo you people really think they'd remove the original 12?
Actually, they did remove Pichu. But yeah, all the others cannot be removed. Well, not very sure about Jigglypuff, but since it has appeared on all SSB games I would say it stays too.
That said, I can't wait to see Captain Falcon in HD.
I just say that the more good content, the better, and stages are always important in a battle. Well that's my opinion.
Quote from: DonValentino on July 15, 2013, 11:24:19 AMActually, they did remove Pichu. But yeah, all the others cannot be removed. Well, not very sure about Jigglypuff, but since it has appeared on all SSB games I would say it stays too.
That said, I can't wait to see Captain Falcon in HD.
I just say that the more good content, the better, and stages are always important in a battle. Well that's my opinion.
Pichu isn't part of the original twelve lol xD
Oh, you're right! For one moment I though that in SSB64 you had Pikachu and Pichu too. Then realized Pichu was from Melee. Yup, sorry. xD
Oooh. Hello there. I'm discovering all these new topics!
I agree with Jamaha- there will definitely be more than 3 newcomers...if that were the case, the game would get boring fast (probably not, but we've already seen what all the other characters would do, and Nintendo should know we like to spice things up).
Hopefully Square and Atlus get at least one Rep in SSBFFWUAN3.
Didn't we already have a topic for this a long time ago?
http://www.ninsheetm.us/smf/index.php?topic=2207
Cooler title is cooler.
I'm hoping for a possibility that Gen VI Pokemon will appear in the game.
Quote from: Waddle Bro on July 16, 2013, 12:31:58 AMI'm hoping for a possibility that Gen VI Pokemon will appear in the game.
It would probably replace Lucario, and if it doesn't, Zoroark will replace it.
If any of you read that IGN article I posted the other day, it hints at the possibility of Little Mac from Punch Out making an appearance.
He might just be an assist trophy again.
BUT!
I'd love to see him as a playable character. It doesn't seem like he'd have a lot of moves to turn into special attacks, though...
Neither does Wii Fit Trainer, yet she's added to the roster. Besides, he's already a fighter, he can probably borrow moves from other characters in the Punch Out series.
I wonder if the Trainer will have the option of changing from female to male. Not necessarily a move in game (similar to Zelda to Sheik) but before the game starts. I almost forgot there was a guy trainer since I always used the female one
Quote from: Bubbles7689 on July 16, 2013, 12:49:31 PMI wonder if the Trainer will have the option of changing from female to male.
plzplzplzplzplz *drools*
Oh, sorry.
OMG DUDE
WHAT IF YOU COULD HAVE THE VILLAGER WEARING A DRESS XDDDDDD
but i'm already doing that!
Today's daily image is of the Villager riding Lloid like a rocket....
Speculation?
It's probably his recovery move.
It's going sideways, though...and the reveal trailer for the villager showed that his recovery move is wearing a Balloon Fighter helmet. Maybe it's an aerial move...
Or it could be like, Luigi's Green Missile move, maybe. Idk.
Kid Icarus Uprising stage confirmed for 3DS version!
(http://i.imgur.com/U4Mwg1Yl.jpg)
Looks like it's based off Chapter 11 of the game. Hopefully the Space Pirate ship gets turned into a stage, but this one looks really cool too!
RESET BOMBS YES
After a Reset Bomb hits, the castle would turn to a forest and shit. Cool.
F***. (http://nintendoeverything.com/sakurai-says-new-smash-bros-wont-have-a-story-mode-or-cutscenes-3ds-version-will-feature-separate-mode-from-the-standard-versus-play/) Now I'm seriously thinking about passing, this SSB is being just too disappointing for me. And I still have good ol'Brawl.
^Speak for yourself. :J the game looks awesome.
Well, now that I think about it, they could bring back the Adventure mode from Melee but much bigger and better. In that case, no story mode forgiven. But still, c'mon, no cutscenes because people put them online? That's one of the most stupid excuses I've ever heard, and never thought I could hear it from Sakurai himself.
In what world was the subspace emissary that fun.
I don't give a rat's ass whether or not there are cutscenes. I just want to beat the shit out of my friends.
Maybe not having a story mode means we'll actually have to put in an effort for new characters (a'la melee). Brawl just made it too easy.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on July 25, 2013, 08:32:52 AMIn what world was the subspace emissary that fun.
Well, it was a great co-op mode. I had a lot of fun playing the subspace emissary with a friend. :-\
All I care about: Good Online play, Melee like gameplay (hopefully by in between brawl and melee, they meant melee without adv. tech.)
Quote from: DonValentino on July 25, 2013, 06:58:55 AMF***. (http://nintendoeverything.com/sakurai-says-new-smash-bros-wont-have-a-story-mode-or-cutscenes-3ds-version-will-feature-separate-mode-from-the-standard-versus-play/) Now I'm seriously thinking about passing, this SSB is being just too disappointing for me. And I still have good ol'Brawl.
Guess what. (http://youtu.be/cg33mlybZcQ?t=7m12s)
Also J.T. is my husbando because he's amazing.
xD
Who is everyone going to play with, if it turns out that the currently announced characters are the only ones? (Which won't happen but just as a theoretical)
I think Pikachu is my fave of the currently announced ones :J
Fox, as long as they don't nerf him any more than he was in Brawl.
Olimar and Wii fit trainer.
Wat. (http://www.screwattack.com/news/petition-feature-reggie-fils-aime-next-super-smash-bros-live)
^omg please
lolwut? Who is that guy? :P
Quote from: JDMEK5 on July 27, 2013, 01:53:53 PMlolwut? Who is that guy? :P
Not to be rude.... is that a joke?
He's the president of Nintendo of America.
He's famous for "My body is ready."
He's generally pretty amusing.
Quote from: JDMEK5 on July 27, 2013, 01:53:53 PMlolwut? Who is that guy? :P
Quote from: SlowPokemon on July 27, 2013, 07:59:53 PMHe's famous for "My body is ready."
Also this. The meme's everywhere. Even Fire Emblem Awakening has it. >_>
(http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/t600/mario10232/SSB4WeirdBackground_zpsc8fb3a34.jpg)
What is this I don't even
Come on out, Cragalanche!!!
(http://www.smashbros.com/update/images/daily.jpg)
Luigi comfirmed.
He was confirmed like a week ago
you're too slow
(http://files-cdn.formspring.me/photos/20120821/n50337e784c3c1.gif)
(http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/t600/mario10232/SSB4MetroidStage_zpsa86d2b5e.jpg)
METROID STAGE CONFIRMED
Eh. I'd have liked Phaaze instead.
Why does my picture keep changing?
Toon Link Comfirmed.
Is it gonna be like a 3D stage with depth or are they still doing side view? Because it looks like on that metroid stage there's room to move back and forth... or whatever.
It'll still be 2D gameplay.
Pikmin 3 stage confirmed!!! :D
(http://www.smashbros.com/images/character/fox/screen-6.jpg)
What is this madness?!
Is fox proposing to rush????
(http://media.eventhubs.com/images/2013/10/31_wiifit01.jpg)
YES.
Oh dear...
Oh deary, deary me...
(http://www.smashbros.com/images/character/marth/screen-9.jpg)
<3 Marth
he makes my kokoro go dokidoki
Marth's been confirmed?
This is the apotheosis of my life.
(http://i40.tinypic.com/s5ju3d.png)
fingerz crossed for MM3D for next spring
Spoiler
Rosalina comfirmed.
Dedede confirmed! :D
I think the next newcomer will be Little Mac. Just look at the ring: the symbol in the middle is very similar to that of Punch Out, and even the color of the ropes. Also, the crowd can be seen mimicking punches sometimes, and while it could be a generic move, it could also be a boxing hint.
I was also trying to think why Rock or Winged pikmin weren't shown in the trailers. Well, I think that Olimar will have a Brittany/Charlie/Alph skin just like female Wii Fit Trainer has the male trainer.
So Olimar could exclusively use White and Purple pikmin, and if you choose Alph, Brittany or Charlie, Rock and Winged ones.
I wonder how are they going to implement the skin feature. Will the male trainer have the same moves as the female trainer?
Just gender changes like boy Villager/girl Villager? Or completely/partially different movesets for different skins like Mario/Dr. Mario?
I think it would add a lot of diversity to the battle, and technically you're not including more characters, just expanding the actual roster.
Oh, and personally I'd also like to see K Rool as a newcomer too, even if I know it would be unlikely.
So any other thoughts of the game so far?
I'm still really excited for mega man and rosalina. And yeah, K Rool would be cool. Seems interesting to me that they've included "large villain dude" from super mario, legend of zelda, and kirby, but somehow managed to leave him out.
Quote from: FierceDeity on January 18, 2014, 03:03:26 PMI'm still really excited for mega man and rosalina. And yeah, K Rool would be cool. Seems interesting to me that they've included "large villain dude" from super mario, legend of zelda, and kirby, but somehow managed to leave him out.
That's because Nintendo doesn't own the rights to K Rool or the kremlings anymore. They lost them when Rareware was bought by Microsoft. That's also why the Kremlings weren't in either of the new Donkey Kong Country games. Nintendo doesn't have the rights.
Quote from: Kman96 on January 18, 2014, 03:28:16 PMThat's because Nintendo doesn't own the rights to K Rool or the kremlings anymore. They lost them when Rareware was bought by Microsoft. That's also why the Kremlings weren't in either of the new Donkey Kong Country games. Nintendo doesn't have the rights.
I thought they were considered part of the Donkey Kong franchise (which, obviously, would be retained by Nintendo)?
According to the DK Wiki, he appeared in Donkey Kong Barrel Blast, which was released for the Wii in 2007.
Nintendo owns the rights to the Donkey Kong franchise and all characters within. The fact that Retro hasn't used K. Rool in the DKCR series yet is just their artistic choice.
Quote from: Kman96 on January 18, 2014, 03:28:16 PMThat's because Nintendo doesn't own the rights to K Rool or the kremlings anymore. They lost them when Rareware was bought by Microsoft. That's also why the Kremlings weren't in either of the new Donkey Kong Country games. Nintendo doesn't have the rights.
Nintendo in fact does own the Kremlings. As far as I know, all series that belonged to Nintendo originally (those are Starfox and Donkey Kong) were brought back to Nintendo and everything Rare did with them, while Rare-created franchises (Conker, Banjo, Killer Instinct...) were kept by them.
Why nobody thinks Krystal belongs to Rare and think the Kremlings do? It's the same situation. :P
And of course, Barrel Blast is the perfect example. Heck, they even created new Kremlings like Kalypso!
And Retro said they didn't use the Kremlings not because they couldn't, but because they didn't want to (bad decision imo).
But yeah, the Kremlings have been absent since Mario Sluggers. They should return someday just like F-Zero and a new Starfox. :(
ninja'd, well not really, it took me some time to write this lol
Lucario's back! What do you guys think about this? And do you think Mega Lucario's going to be an option?
Quote from: SlowPokemon on February 01, 2014, 02:17:15 PMLucario's back! What do you guys think about this? And do you think Mega Lucario's going to be an option?
I'm not too sure how I think about it: not that I don't like Lucario or anything, but personally, I think it was a wasted opportunity to add a new Pokémon (e.g. Zoroark or one from X/Y), or even on old one (like bringing Mewtwo back, which would also fit for X and Y).
I think the Wii Fit Trainer is going to be cool :)
Quote from: SlowPokemon on February 01, 2014, 02:17:15 PMLucario's back! What do you guys think about this? And do you think Mega Lucario's going to be an option?
I'm betting on/hoping for Mega Lucario final smash.
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on February 01, 2014, 02:24:26 PMI'm not too sure how I think about it: not that I don't like Lucario or anything, but personally, I think it was a wasted opportunity to add a new Pokémon (e.g. Zoroark or one from X/Y), or even on old one (like bringing Mewtwo back, which would also fit for X and Y).
I mean, Lucario is super relevant for X/Y, though. More relevant than Mewtwo. And it's not like this means they can't make another Pokémon addition (although it
is less likely now), it just means they're not replacing Lucario.
Quote from: mariolegofan on February 01, 2014, 02:25:00 PMI think the Wii Fit Trainer is going to be cool :)
I'm excited for every new addition they're making so far. Although, I'm happy no matter what now that they're finally including Mega Man :3
Prediction: they'll announce Ness along with a release of Mother 3, maybe even a full trilogy release.
Quote from: FierceDeity on February 01, 2014, 05:03:17 PMI mean, Lucario is super relevant for X/Y, though. More relevant than Mewtwo. And it's not like this means they can't make another Pokémon addition (although it is less likely now), it just means they're not replacing Lucario.
Wasn't Mewtwo the first Mega revealed??
Also, I'm a tiny bit irritated about how they're revealing all the
old characters one by one. It's like: OOOH! Mario's in the new Smash Bros! I never would've guessed! :P It seems very redundant.
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on February 01, 2014, 06:54:35 PMAlso, I'm a tiny bit irritated about how they're revealing all the old characters one by one. It's like: OOOH! Mario's in the new Smash Bros! I never would've guessed! :P It seems very redundant.
That's not what it's like at all, actually.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on February 01, 2014, 07:03:39 PMThat's not what it's like at all, actually.
Have you even looked at the character reveals (and recurring characters that haven't been revealed yet), or do you see my post and instantaneously want to contradict it? :P
EDIT: Just looking at IGN's page quickly, the only characters confirmed who haven't appeared before are the Villager, Mega Man, Wii Fit Trainer, and Rosalina/Luma. Compared to 18-or-so other characters who have appeared before. For characters that have only been in Brawl before, it's understandable, but any more than that, it seems rather pointless (e.g. the analogy I described).
Characters who have been in every game but haven't been confirmed yet are Captain Falcon, Jigglypuff, Yoshi, and Ness.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on February 01, 2014, 05:49:21 PMPrediction: they'll announce Ness along with a release of Mother 3, maybe even a full trilogy release.
If this happened I would construct a shrine to Nintendo in my bathroom and sacrifice my firstborn son to it.
uh blueflower are you okay there
Considering that you offered your penis for the prize of the Post To 1782 Game, I think I'm perfectly fine by your standards.
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on February 01, 2014, 06:54:35 PMWasn't Mewtwo the first Mega revealed??
First revealed, not super significant in the story...
As for Lucario, though,
Spoiler
every player gets one along with the mega evolution ring; the battle to GET the mega evolution ring is that Lucario mega evolving versus another Lucario mega evolving. That's a lot of fucking Lucario right there, if you ask me.
Not to mention the Tower of Mastery, a key landmark in Shalour City where all of that takes place, has a giant statue of Lucario in it.
Quote from: FierceDeity on February 01, 2014, 09:09:31 PMFirst revealed, not super significant in the story...
As for Lucario, though, Spoiler
every player gets one along with the mega evolution ring; the battle to GET the mega evolution ring is that Lucario mega evolving versus another Lucario mega evolving. That's a lot of fucking Lucario right there, if you ask me.
Mewtwo is an iconic Pokémon in general though (probably one of the most iconic legendaries), and it also fits for X and Y (which is what I said originally- it doesn't matter whether it's more story-significant than Lucario, because it's still very important to X and Y in general, given that its Mega Evolution was the first revealed).
Yeahhhh Lucario is a much better choice imo
Quote from: SlowPokemon on February 01, 2014, 09:17:45 PMYeahhhh Lucario is a much better choice imo
You did ask what people thought about Lucario's return...
I also think it would be interesting to see Mewtwo return since it hasn't been in the series since Melee (or, rather, it has only appeared then).
Well, I look at it like this. If I was a little kid playing through Pokemon X and Y, I'd rather play as Lucario in Smash Bros. than Mewtwo. I think that Lucario is a lot more relevant to modern Pokemon.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on February 01, 2014, 09:30:00 PMWell, I look at it like this. If I was a little kid playing through Pokemon X and Y, I'd rather play as Lucario in Smash Bros. than Mewtwo. I think that Lucario is a lot more relevant to modern Pokemon.
Super Smash Bros. Melee and Brawl (and possibly the upcoming ones, although their rating is currently pending)
are rated T, though. :P "Little kids" aren't the
only intended audience.
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on February 01, 2014, 09:13:54 PMMewtwo is an iconic Pokémon in general though (probably one of the most iconic legendaries), and it also fits for X and Y (which is what I said originally- it doesn't matter whether it's more story-significant than Lucario, because it's still very important to X and Y in general, given that its Mega Evolution was the first revealed).
Quote from: SlowPokemon on February 01, 2014, 09:30:00 PMWell, I look at it like this. If I was a little kid playing through Pokemon X and Y, I'd rather play as Lucario in Smash Bros. than Mewtwo. I think that Lucario is a lot more relevant to modern Pokemon.
Yeah, you've gotta consider Nintendo's target demographic, here. The Mega Mewtwo reveal was really just to hype up nostalgic gamers who hadn't bought a Pokémon game in a while. A
lot of people who bought X and Y won't have been following news about the games as obsessively as we were, as well as not having played the original games, and so Mewtwo won't have nearly as much significance to them. People for whom he
does have significance will probably have enough things factoring into their decision about buying the game that having Mewtwo wouldn't really make or break the decision.
It's not like Mega Man, where a large amount of the fanbase is demanding a main character from a franchise that doesn't have any representation yet in Super Smash Bros. It's a low-demand, rather irrelevant character from a franchise with
several characters already in Super Smash Bros. He's never been important for the plot in any of the games, either; it's the movie(s) that popularized him, for the most part.
ugh, you responded while I was typing, damnit
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on February 01, 2014, 09:49:30 PMSuper Smash Bros. Melee and Brawl (and possibly the upcoming ones, although their rating is currently pending) are rated T, though. :P "Little kids" aren't the only intended audience.
Marketing, in a way, works like politics. You have a certain percentage of the population that will support you despite whatever minor adjustments to your policy, or game, that you make. Those adjustments, then, have to be tiered towards the people who are not yet set on buying your game. People who have grown up with Super Smash Bros. and Pokémon already have an idea of whether or not they want to buy this game. They're more mature consumers, who won't buy or not buy a game because "OOH THAT ONE POKEMON I REALLY LIKE IS/ISN'T IN IT". Younger children, however, are far more fickle, and so the Pokémon that they're more likely to be familiar with was included.
I find it somewhat entertaining how I responded to a post asking peoples' opinions on a subject, and you responded essentially saying, "NO! Your opinion is wrong!" :P
Quote from: FierceDeity on February 01, 2014, 09:58:38 PMYeah, you've gotta consider Nintendo's target demographic, here. The Mega Mewtwo reveal was really just to hype up nostalgic gamers who hadn't bought a Pokémon game in a while. A lot of people who bought X and Y won't have been following news about the games as obsessively as we were, as well as not having played the original games, and so Mewtwo won't have nearly as much significance to them. People for whom he does have significance will probably have enough things factoring into their decision about buying the game that having Mewtwo wouldn't really make or break the decision.
Your logic is essentially like saying that they shouldn't have included the Pokémon Trainer with Gen 1 starters in Brawl. Super Smash Bros. caters to all (or at least, most) demographics, not just one in particular- I mean, Solid Snake was in Brawl!
SOLID SNAKE, from a game most kids won't play (I hope) or they may not have even heard of! I understand that it's a different franchise, but then again, my argument still holds true with the Pokémon trainer- not to mention why Mewtwo was included in X/Y in the first place (as well as tons of other Pokémon from previous generations).
If this were a Pokémon-only fighting game, I could completely understand you, but I was merely expressing my opinion on the matter and wondering why Nintendo wouldn't capitalize on the "best of both worlds old and new" character, Mewtwo (or even wondering why they didn't just pick a representative directly from Gen 5/6).
QuoteThey're more mature consumers, who won't buy or not buy a game because "OOH THAT ONE POKEMON I REALLY LIKE IS/ISN'T IN IT".
Nostalgia? :P
That's not my point. You lecture me on marketing (:P) but haven't heard of "appeal to the fans" (not that Lucario wouldn't, but as I said earlier, there were other options)?
FierceDeity... I recommend you leave this one be ::)
Quote from: SlowPokemon on February 01, 2014, 10:30:20 PMFierceDeity... I recommend you leave this one be ::)
::)
*expresses disagreement with somebody's opinion*
*get surprised and annoyed when they disagree with your disagreement*
This is really random at this point, but I'm really excited that Rosalina is going to be a character. She's my favorite Nintendo heroine; Peach is all nice and everything but Rosalina is a really cool character.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on February 01, 2014, 10:30:20 PMFierceDeity... I recommend you leave this one be ::)
Sorry, slow, I've never been a big fan of the high road...
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on February 01, 2014, 10:21:22 PMI find it somewhat entertaining how I responded to a post asking peoples' opinions on a subject, and you responded essentially saying, "NO! Your opinion is wrong!" :P
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on February 01, 2014, 10:35:20 PM*expresses disagreement with somebody's opinion*
*get surprised and annoyed when they disagree with your disagreement*
What have I said that makes me sound surprised or annoyed? We've both been stating our points in a virtually identical manner. I'm not restricting your ability to have an opinion, I'm simply holding it up against my own. You treat every argument as if you're the victim, when in reality, we're both doing the same exact thing. The fact that opinions are asked for doesn't mean that debate isn't allowed. In fact, in many topics, it almost guarantees that it will occur. I won't argue about Mewtwo/Lucario anymore, as it's pretty clear at this point where our differences lie on this rather insignificant issue. I will ask, however, that you stop pretending that debates are one-sided, and that opinions are infallible.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on February 01, 2014, 10:55:51 PMThis is really random at this point, but I'm really excited that Rosalina is going to be a character. She's my favorite Nintendo heroine; Peach is all nice and everything but Rosalina is a really cool character.
I'm really excited to see how they're going to work in Luma. The trailer made it seem like it's not just going to be an "Olimar throws a Pikmin as an attack" type thing.
I find it funny how much they're stressing Rosalina lately. She made the cut of Mario Kart 7, is an unlockable character in Super Mario 3D World for crying out loud, and now she's in Smash Bros.? I smell Galaxy 3.
Quote from: FierceDeity on February 01, 2014, 11:15:46 PMWhat have I said that makes me sound surprised or annoyed?
With the second quote, I was responding specifically to Slow, because he always seems to be saying (or implying) that I'm in the wrong for having an opinion different than that of others. :-\
QuoteWe've both been stating our points in a virtually identical manner. I'm not restricting your ability to have an opinion, I'm simply holding it up against my own. You treat every argument as if you're the victim, when in reality, we're both doing the same exact thing. The fact that opinions are asked for doesn't mean that debate isn't allowed. In fact, in many topics, it almost guarantees that it will occur. I won't argue about Mewtwo/Lucario anymore, as it's pretty clear at this point where our differences lie on this rather insignificant issue. I will ask, however, that you stop pretending that debates are one-sided, and that opinions are infallible.
I wonder how you can say that I am "pretending that debates are one-sided," when that's essentially what your own arguments were reflecting (e.g. that Mewtwo shouldn't has no reason to be in the new Smash Bros. over Lucario, and it's silly to think otherwise)!
As for the "opinions are infallible" part, you seem to fail to grasp the simple concept that I was merely expressing my opinion in the first place, and made that clear several times (yet you suggest that that's not what I was doing?)! You seemed to be treating the debate as if it were my standpoint that I was outraged and surprised that they picked Lucario over Mewtwo (and saying that they made a mistake having Lucario, and how the game would be that much worse with Lucario), rather than that I was hoping that they would have picked Mewtwo over Lucario (and, if anything, it's you who have been treating what you're saying as more "infallible"), or that I was wrong for suggesting/wanting Mewtwo/some other Pokémon over Lucario.
You also say that I "treat every argument as if (I was) the victim," but I have only done anything mildly close to that (not to the level of being "victimized"- more like calling people out for attacking/insulting me) when people are actually attacking me (obviously). I don't see how I've been acting like the "victim" in this debate when all I said was you were treating my opinion as if it were wrong (and trying to "correct" it) rather than merely responding to it with your own (which is the tone I got from reading your responses).
Quote from: SlowPokemon on February 01, 2014, 11:18:32 PMI find it funny how much they're stressing Rosalina lately. She made the cut of Mario Kart 7, is an unlockable character in Super Mario 3D World for crying out loud, and now she's in Smash Bros.? I smell Galaxy 3.
It does seem like a surprise, especially with all the Mario characters already in Smash Bros.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on February 01, 2014, 10:30:20 PMFierceDeity... I recommend you leave this one be ::)
I implore you
Quote from: SlowPokemon on February 01, 2014, 10:30:20 PMFierceDeity... I recommend you leave this one be ::)
Please, for the sanity of us all. THINK OF THE CHILDREN.
BDS vs. FierceDeity
I bet my money on never-ending
Wait but guys, he actually thinks that I'm trying to insult him. If anything, I have to at least make sure he realizes that's not the case...
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on February 01, 2014, 11:54:10 PMAs for the "opinions are infallible" part, you seem to fail to grasp the simple concept that I was merely expressing my opinion in the first place, and made that clear several times (yet you suggest that that's not what I was doing?)!
No, that's my point. You expressed an opinion, I expressed my disagreement with it, which is, in itself, an opinion. We both expressed them based on particular reasons. You expressing your opinion, conflicting with my own, is in essence, calling my own opinion incorrect, whether or not it was directed at a statement of mine. I repeat,
we are both doing the same exact thing. By the "opinions are infallible" part, I merely meant that you act as if I'm not allowed to argue against your opinion on the basis that it is an opinion.
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on February 01, 2014, 11:54:10 PMYou also say that I "treat every argument as if (I was) the victim," but I have only done anything mildly close to that (not to the level of being "victimized"- more like calling people out for attacking/insulting me) when people are actually attacking me (obviously). I don't see how I've been acting like the "victim" in this debate when all I said was you were treating my opinion as if it were wrong (and trying to "correct" it) rather than merely responding to it with your own (which is the tone I got from reading your responses).
Assuming that people are attacking or insulting you just because they disagree with your opinion is literally exactly what I meant by saying that you treat it as if you're the victim. I by no means think less of you because of your opinion on what particular telepathic Pokémon should go into a fighting game where one will inevitably be a reskinning of the other. If you got that from my tone, then I apologize, and would ask that you find specific instances where it sounds like that (as tone arises from identifiable word choice), and I'll try to clarify my intent. For example, I find your tone rather condescending when you say things like "you seem to fail to grasp the simple concept".
...We can take this to PM, if need be, haha.
Quote from: FierceDeity on February 02, 2014, 12:24:43 AMtelepathic Pokémon should go into a fighting game where one will inevitably be a reskinning of the other.
I don't really understand this viewpoint, since off the top of my head, the only similarities that Mewtwo and Lucario had in Smash were that they had a similar B move and that they were floaty (though everyone in Brawl was floaty). That being said, Lucario being confirmed doesn't necessarily mean that Mewtwo won't come back as well, and Mewtwo sucked in Melee anyway. >_>
Quote from: FierceDeity on February 02, 2014, 12:24:43 AMFor example, I find your tone rather condescending when you say things like "you seem to fail to grasp the simple concept".
I want that Like button you were talking about
guys
I recommend re-reading over what you two are arguing about.
meta-argument is best argument
I don't understand what all the arguing is about. Clearly the best Pokemon to be included in the game is Reggie.
Quote from: FierceDeity on February 02, 2014, 12:24:43 AMWait but guys, he actually thinks that I'm trying to insult him. If anything, I have to at least make sure he realizes that's not the case...
Beforehand, I thought that you were just trying to say that my opinion was wrong (hence your lecture-like arguments), but this (http://forum.ninsheetm.us/index.php?topic=5711.msg239282#msg239282) definitely was more accusatory.
Quote from: FierceDeity on February 02, 2014, 12:24:43 AMAssuming that people are attacking or insulting you just because they disagree with your opinion is literally exactly what I meant by saying that you treat it as if you're the victim.
This is entirely different than that, though: it's not just disagreeing with my opinion, but
how they disagree. I can respect somebody disagreeing with me, but when they are doing it in a hostile (there's a more specific word to describe this, but "hostile" serves as a general description) way, I'd say by all accounts, it would definitely fall into the "attacking" category. I'm already a somewhat explosive person (no, not those explosions), and things like that provoke me even more (which is why I tend to get into heated arguments with *certain people*). Oh, and also when people completely misinterpret me. :P
QuoteFor example, I find your tone rather condescending when you say things like "you seem to fail to grasp the simple concept".
I only said that because you seem to be completely ignoring that fact, and accusing me of doing things that I felt you were doing.
Quote from: MaestroUGC on February 02, 2014, 12:42:43 AMI don't understand what all the arguing is about. Clearly the best Pokemon to be included in the game is Reggie.
Spoiler
(http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/My+Body+is+Regi.+Dem+Puns_9f1299_3778683.jpg)
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on February 02, 2014, 12:44:24 AMThis is entirely different than that, though: it's not just disagreeing with my opinion, but how they disagree. I can respect somebody disagreeing with me, but when they are doing it in a hostile (there's a more specific word to describe this, but "hostile" serves as a general description) way, I'd say by all accounts, it would definitely fall into the "attacking" category.
Again, I'm gonna need you to give me the specifics of what gives it this classification. Referencing an entire post of mine is pretty vague, especially when tone lies in the details.
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on February 02, 2014, 12:44:24 AMI only said that because you seem to be completely ignoring that fact, and accusing me of doing things that I felt you were doing.
Well, if it means anything, this is far from the first time I've found that tone in your arguments. I can find more examples, if you'd like. Also, the fact that you were pointing out is that you were stating an opinion, yes? Let me point out the places where I think I demonstrated my knowledge of this fact:
Quote from: FierceDeity on February 01, 2014, 11:15:46 PMWe've both been stating our points in a virtually identical manner. I'm not restricting your ability to have an opinion, I'm simply holding it up against my own. You treat every argument as if you're the victim, when in reality, we're both doing the same exact thing. The fact that opinions are asked for doesn't mean that debate isn't allowed. In fact, in many topics, it almost guarantees that it will occur.
Also,
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on February 02, 2014, 12:44:24 AMI only said that because you seem to be completely ignoring that fact, and accusing me of doing things that I felt you were doing.
I
was doing them. I'm not saying that I
wasn't doing them. My point is that we were
both doing them, because we were both arguing.
(Pic doesn't seem to show, it's Mother Brain's assist trophy)
I never thought and assist trophy would be so much epicness.
Quote from: MaestroUGC on February 02, 2014, 12:42:43 AMI don't understand what all the arguing is about. Clearly the best Pokemon to be included in the game is Reggie.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on February 02, 2014, 12:37:18 AMI want that Like button you were talking about
Guys we need to make a few new threads
BDS vs FierceDeity
BDS vs SlowPokemon
BDS vs World
Clanker vs Walls Of Text
Don't forget Everyone vs Everyone
We should make a debate topic where COOL debates are held.
Me and SuperFireKirby might have a debate about religion and evolution. Stuff like that
I think we've done that before.
It wasn't pretty.
D: dude ate a mushroom and now he's high!
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on February 07, 2014, 11:00:31 AMGuys we need to make a few new threads
BDS vs FierceDeity
BDS vs SlowPokemon
BDS vs World
Clanker vs Walls Of Text
Noctourne Pilgrim v.s The World
Quote from: Dude on February 07, 2014, 12:22:44 PMI think we've done that before.
It wasn't pretty.
Yeah....but we should try it again :) We would be mindful of others feelings and would be kind
Quote from: mariolegofan on February 07, 2014, 01:05:23 PMWe would be mindful of others feelings and would be kind
Maybe at first. Not that I don't want to see this kind of thing, but it usually gets out of control eventually. :-\
Don't we already have a couple of threads where that's kind of already the purpose, i.e. unpopular opinions and politics?
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on February 07, 2014, 11:00:31 AMClanker vs Walls Of Text
Why is my worst enemy walls of text? Just cuz I cbf reading stuff...
Quote from: mariolegofan on February 07, 2014, 12:19:57 PMWe should make a debate topic where COOL debates are held.
Me and SuperFireKirby might have a debate about religion and evolution. Stuff like that
Oh
gawd no. It would be horrendous. BDS would never leave.
Quote from: Clanker37 on February 07, 2014, 06:55:33 PMOh gawd no. It would be horrendous. BDS would never leave.
I WAS ON THE FENCE BUT NOW I AM OPPOSED.
OK, can we please not make this another topic where we unfairly gang up on BDS?
thx
I never unfairly gang up on him. He's a froody guy.
Little Mac. Knew it.
Quote from: DonValentino on February 13, 2014, 02:04:26 PMLittle Mac. Knew it.
Finally! Another new character announcement! :P
You figure Nintendo would've put Little Mac sooner than the fourth game in the series. You know, Little Mac, probably one of their most beloved fighting characters in their most popular and successful fighting series.
Still, that's neat.
He would only have two moves though
hook and jab
That's all he would ever need.
Woo Little Mac!!
Quote from: Dude on February 07, 2014, 11:12:59 AMDon't forget Everyone vs Everyone
Can't tell if south park reference or not.
gj
It would be nice if they put Simon from Castlevania. B for the whip, side B for the boomeranges, up B for...... Um... Some recovery move, I think?? Fuck it. And down B for holy water. If Simon comes as a newcomer, then I would run to the store, and buy a Wii-U. Since I have a bunch of dollar bills that I've been saving since 7 years ago.
I quite like the idea that some characters will have different moves for the 3DS and Wii U versions! I'm assuming that'll be the same with the soundtrack too. I mean, they've both got VERY different stages, so it only makes sense to have a different soundtrack for each game.
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No disappointment there. I think Waluigi fits perfectly as an assist trophy. But Wii fit trainer was kind of an "over reaction". She could have been fine as an assist trophy too. But let me cut the bullshit and say this: Nintendoki PLS Put SIMON BELMONT on ssbfwiiu&3ds!!!!!!!!!
I'd be down to have simon belmont on there, but I'd also say it's not too likely to happen. He's not very relevant nowadays, and wasn't nearly as requested as little mac (let alone megaman).
So disappointed no Waluigi. Argh.
tbh, six Mario reps would be just too many, so I'm good with that (not that his moveset would be that good either).
Who's in it from Zelda this time?
So far they've included Link (apparently still the twilight princess model, which I'm kinda confused about), toon link (so I'm assuming no LTTP/link between worlds Link, because that'd just be ridiculous at this point) and Zelda (also twilight princess model; I can understand why for her, since SS Zelda isn't all that badass). I can't imagine they're not bringing back Ganon. As for other characters, there's been a lot of support for Tingle, and a shitload for skull kid, but I doubt they're using either.
Skull Kid is confirmed for an assist trophy, but is therefore confirmed to not be a playable character.
Quote from: DonValentino on February 28, 2014, 11:08:31 AMtbh, six Mario reps would be just too many, so I'm good with that (not that his moveset would be that good either).
If you get picky, Brawl technically had six Mario reps: Mario, Luigi, Peach, Bowser, Wario, and Yoshi, although Wario and Yoshi have their own well-developed franchises.
Speaking of which, Yoshi still hasn't been announced yet. Anyone find that odd?
Quote from: Dudeman on March 01, 2014, 10:56:41 PMSpeaking of which, Yoshi still hasn't been announced yet. Anyone find that odd?
Nope. That seems to be the way they've been announcing characters (which, you could say, is odd in general). :P
Quote from: Dudeman on March 01, 2014, 10:56:41 PMIf you get picky, Brawl technically had six Mario reps: Mario, Luigi, Peach, Bowser, Wario, and Yoshi, although Wario and Yoshi have their own well-developed franchises.
Speaking of which, Yoshi still hasn't been announced yet. Anyone find that odd?
Well yeah, but I don't count Yoshi and Wario because as you say, in Brawl they are standalone franchises.
Yoshi will most likely be announced when New Island is released (like Toon Link with WWHD or Diddy with TF), so no it's not that odd.
(http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2014/03/Lumiose.jpg)
Lumiose City stage confirmed for Nintendo 3DS version.
That's a shame... Lumiose City would have looked absolutely gorgeous in HD. :P
Oh well, still nice. I just hope the Wii U version has another mainstream location. It would be nice to see Saffron City again btw
I MISS SAFFRON SO MUCH
ALSO FOURSIDE
Saffron City was awesome in the first Smash Bros. Not a fan of Lumiose city in general (hurr durr camera angles) so I hope the stage is interesting.
In contrast, Lumiose was actually my favorite city of XY once I got used to it. So much scenery porn and some awesome music as well
I guess the music is grating to me because of all the egg hatching I've done around Prism Tower, pffft. It is a pretty place, though.
Difficult to navigate when I first played the game though. I'm not a huge fan of the controls of the city. But it's a good technical display of what Pokemon X and Y can accomplish
In case you guys missed it, Luigi has an AWESOME new Final Smash (as opposed to his weird trippy Negative Zone from Brawl). Check it out, he uses the Poltergust! :D
(http://oyster.ignimgs.com/mediawiki/apis.ign.com/super-smash-bros-next/thumb/2/2e/Luigigisetfinalsmashva0v3nvqzlCfzRtfkzArFiSDuo.jpg/468px-Luigigisetfinalsmashva0v3nvqzlCfzRtfkzArFiSDuo.jpg)
Also, Isabelle confirmed as an Assist Trophy today. :3
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why is she chained to the ground
that is a chainlink divider in the background of the stage dude
Edit: at least i hope it is otherwise poor isabelle
lol
not sure if joking or not :P
Quote from: SlowPokemon on April 04, 2014, 03:49:52 PMthat is a chainlink divider in the background of the stage dude
Edit: at least i hope it is otherwise poor isabelle
nuh uh
i mean look at
those teeth that tooth, it's absolutely
terrifying. it could probably give you a bad scrape for a few days.
So, a Smash Bros Nintendo Direct on the 8th! I hope to get a release date + rest of the character roster.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on April 04, 2014, 03:44:42 PMIn case you guys missed it, Luigi has an AWESOME new Final Smash (as opposed to his weird trippy Negative Zone from Brawl). Check it out, he uses the Poltergust! :D
(http://oyster.ignimgs.com/mediawiki/apis.ign.com/super-smash-bros-next/thumb/2/2e/Luigigisetfinalsmashva0v3nvqzlCfzRtfkzArFiSDuo.jpg/468px-Luigigisetfinalsmashva0v3nvqzlCfzRtfkzArFiSDuo.jpg)
It seems that a lot of people liked the Negative Zone, but I like this one better- it, of course, makes more sense for Luigi (and I always felt the Negative Zone was difficult to use right).
Negative Zone isn't really hard to use, it's just really odd and doesn't really give off a classic Luigi vibe, whereas the Poltergust immediately identifies with the character.
How is "make everybody around you fall asleep/get dizzy/get some sort of status ailment then go up and beat the shit out of them" difficult to use lol
If they're dizzy/asleep you can just use up B and you'll usually kill them instantly. It's pretty overpowered, really. But then again, so are a lot of final smashes.
Quote from: FierceDeity on April 04, 2014, 07:28:57 PMHow is "make everybody around you fall asleep/get dizzy/get some sort of status ailment then go up and beat the shit out of them" difficult to use lol
If they're dizzy/asleep you can just use up B and you'll usually kill them instantly. It's pretty overpowered, really. But then again, so are a lot of final smashes.
Because it's
very easy to avoid on larger stages (e.g. anything larger than Final Destination :P).
I never actually thought Luigi's final smash did anything but make him look high
Was hoping for a Luiginary attack instead, but I guess the Poltergust's cool too.
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on April 04, 2014, 07:45:32 PMBecause it's very easy to avoid on larger stages (e.g. anything larger than Final Destination :P).
Easy to avoid if all you try to do is walk up to people and use it. Obviously there's more to it than that, haha. Push them to a corner/the edge of the map and trap them with it, hit/throw them off the edge and set it up before they get back on, anticipate their landing spot from a post-up+B fall; there's a lot of goddamn ways to make it work. It's a pretty wide range, and doesn't take absurdly long to take effect. I can only really see it being difficult (not impossible, but difficult) on hyrule temple, new pork city, moving stages (and even those you can often make it work), and maybe eldin bridge.
Quote from: FierceDeity on April 05, 2014, 12:25:30 AMEasy to avoid if all you try to do is walk up to people and use it. Obviously there's more to it than that, haha.
YA DON'T SAY. :P
QuotePush them to a corner/the edge of the map and trap them with it, hit/throw them off the edge and set it up before they get back on, anticipate their landing spot from a post-up+B fall; there's a lot of goddamn ways to make it work. It's a pretty wide range, and doesn't take absurdly long to take effect. I can only really see it being difficult (not impossible, but difficult) on hyrule temple, new pork city, moving stages (and even those you can often make it work), and maybe eldin bridge.
9/10 times (a little exaggeration), that isn't going to happen. Especially if you're going against a flying/floating character (or one with a good jump)... not to mention the time Luigi spends dancing around right after you activate it... :P Since the opponent is likely only to be at the edge of the "bubble", if they're even caught by it at all (as I mentioned, most opponents actually fight back), you won't have much time to attack them unless you don't make any effort not to get caught and/or get out of the bubble (or are just insanely unlucky). And, in addition, as I said, with pretty much any stage that's larger than Final Destination, there will always be a bit of room to escape to (and that's assuming Luigi is in an optimal position).
I will never understand how you can get so worked up over a conversation like this
Negative Zone was possibly one of the best Final Smashes. It guaranteed a KO if the opponent was about 60%.
It was a good final smash, but not one that felt like something that was uniquely Luigi.
What are you guys expecting to see on this week's Smash Bros Direct? I think we'll see some different modes, maybe a new one and a couple of new newcomers and veterans.
C'mon K Rool, I have faith in you!!
I think the big thing they'll announce is the launch date, as well as some supplementary stuff and a more detailed difference between the Wii U and 3DS versions, like how the personalization thing will work out.
Poll up
Quote from: SlowPokemon on April 05, 2014, 07:01:51 AMI will never understand how you can get so worked up over a conversation like this
It's like Pokemon or Mario & Luigi games for us, y'know! :P
Oh my god
Nintendo Magazine UK published an issue focusing on Layton vs. Ace Attorney
And this is in that magazine
Layton confirmed for Smash? (http://wimberlymichele.tumblr.com/post/80710711550/layton-is-confirmed-for-smash-bros-guys)
I'm really cautiously excited if thIS ISNT TRUE I WILL BE SO UPSET
I guess you'll find out on Tuesday.
LAYTON FOR SMASH BROS?
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
EYE APPROVE
I feel the interest level rising by over 9000. :P
aw yeah, smash bros 6 is on the way!
http://remoon.blog15.fc2.com/blog-entry-30079.html
http://www.siliconera.com/2014/04/07/report-bandai-namco-recruiting-smash-bros-game-coming-2015/
oh man oh man OH MAN If Layton is going to be in it I might have to actually buy a WiiU
What day was the magazine released?
Because that actually makes me doubt the legitimancy of the claim!
Quote from: Bubbles on April 07, 2014, 05:05:32 PMoh man oh man OH MAN If Layton is going to be in it I might have to actually buy a WiiU
meh it seems like 3DS will be the same the WiiU will just be prettier.
You all should have a Wii U already, what are you poor?
Although the Wii U one will be prettier, I reckon it won't be the better one. Sakurai wouldn't create the game for both consoles if he didn't think it was going to work. In fact, I reckon he's just making it for the Wii U so people don't get sad due to the swap to handheld. My bet is that the 3DS one will actually be the better game. :P
@Maestro: Never buying that thing. ;)
The 3DS is supposed to be a more singular experience, by which I mean I don't know to what extent. Hopefully the Direct tomorrow will shine some light on the actual difference besides the appearance.
I just hope the differences are substantial enough to justify buying two games.
Quote from: Yugi on April 07, 2014, 05:33:04 PMWhat day was the magazine released?
Because that actually makes me doubt the legitimancy of the claim!
The magazine's not saying that Layton's gonna be in Smash. If you read the whole page, it's just Layton commenting on what it would be like to be in another crossover like he was with Phoenix Wright, like Layton X Mario, Layton X Resident Evil, etc.
Quote from: MaestroUGC on April 07, 2014, 05:50:13 PMThe 3DS is supposed to be a more singular experience, by which I mean I don't know to what extent. Hopefully the Direct tomorrow will shine some light on the actual difference besides the appearance.
I just hope the differences are substantial enough to justify buying two games.
Good point, actually! I'm sure they would have to have a lot more single-player content on the 3DS one because not everyone will have someone else to play with. My brother commented on that, saying: "Why would I buy it if all you can do it fight other people. I want a storyline!"
Speaking of which, I hope this one is as good as the Subspace Emissary. I fell in love with the game because of that.
I just want Game & Watch.
I'd like to see some more rather quirky characters make an appearance! By the way, Yoshi hasn't been announced yet, has it? Strange... :o
The main difference between the games that has been confirmed is the stages. The 3DS version will have more stages based on portable games, while the Wii U will have more stages based on console games.
^Yes, but I want to know more about this personalization thing the 3DS version has going for it.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on April 07, 2014, 06:08:08 PMThe main difference between the games that has been confirmed is the stages. The 3DS version will have more stages based on portable games, while the Wii U will have more stages based on console games.
Don't forget trophies. Sakurai posted a couple weeks back that the games will have different trophy sets.
Quote from: fingerz on April 07, 2014, 06:03:20 PMMy brother commented on that, saying: "Why would I buy it if all you can do it fight other people. I want a storyline!"
Story is cool and all, but fighting other people is 99.99999% why I'm buying the game.
Who buys fighting games for fighting people?
That's like saying you play Zelda epic quest. Amateurs.
so when was this direct supposed to be?
In 2 hours.
1, actually. I think.
Less than an hour to go! It starts at 6 pm EST.
Oh yeah, I didn't convert it for my time zone.
Quote from: Yugi on April 07, 2014, 05:33:04 PMWhat day was the magazine released?
Because that actually makes me doubt the legitimancy of the claim!
hey if Phoenix Wright can be in Marvel vs Capcom, Layton can be in smash.
ALL ABOARD THE HYPE TRAIN!!!
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GUYS THERE ARE KREMLINGS IN SMASH RUN
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HOLY CRAP GRENINJA FSADPKOFJPIWQEO JFOWIAJWQIOFJIWAOPFJPIWAOH
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CHARIZARD AND GRENINJA CONFIRMED!!!
interesting...man, this game looks so sick! I NEED IT! and also release dates are approximately set: Summer 2014 for 3DS and Winter 2014 for WiiU.
Quote from: Dudeman on April 08, 2014, 03:34:16 PMSpoiler
GUYS THERE ARE KREMLINGS IN SMASH RUN
JUST WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY!
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KREMLINGS! KRITTERS! KRUSHAS!
I KNEW I WASN'T PARANOID! THE
KING WILL BE BACK!!!
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Quote from: IGNCharizard will return as the 28th playable fighter in Super Smash Bros. for Wii U and 3DS this year, this time without the Pokemon Trainer, alongside another Pokemon, the newcomer and 29th fighter Greninja.
Both Pokemon have Mega Evolutions, which alter their form.
Both have Mega Evolutions? Author error or is this really true?
Author error. We saw the final smash. :)
That Direct was really really lame. Greninja and Charizard, woohoo I guess? Charizard was playable in the last game and Greninja is a really weird choice.
As for the other info, meh. I didn't get any unexpected news besides the differing release dates.
I can't believe they're going to pass that off as this month's Nintendo Direct.
Edit: Although at least Rosalina's going to be a really cool competitor like I'd hoped. I just don't see the character roster getting much bigger at this point, considering there are 29 currently confirmed characters and they haven't even confirmed Jigglypuff, Captain Falcon, or Ness.
Greninja? A weird choice? I beg to differ. Who would you have chosen?
Tell me how Greninja is at all a normal choice for Super Smash Bros. xD lmao
Well, I'm satisfied with everything.
I agree with Slow for once. I mean compare the number of people who have heard of Charizard, Mewtwo, Pikachu, and Lucario with the number of people who have heard of Greninja.
IDK it would have been cool if they had like put Gengar in or something
Quote from: fingerz on April 08, 2014, 04:04:42 PMAuthor error. We saw the final smash. :)
Ah... well, looking at the video, at least it can use some interesting moves (Substitute! :D).
Quote from: SlowPokemon on April 08, 2014, 04:19:55 PMTell me how Greninja is at all a normal choice for Super Smash Bros. xD lmao
At least it's a Gen 6 Pokémon they chose.
Greninja is one of the most hyped Pokemon from Gen 6. He's the most popular final evolution, plus he's a freaking ninja (frog). Ability wise, he has his classic Water Shuriken, and he's built in a way that makes him look physical. He's basically (for the purposes of Smash) a Pokemon Sheik with water powers.
Gosh, I feel like I'm gonna launch into a BDS-style debate. I'll stop now.
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on April 08, 2014, 04:22:55 PMI agree with Slow for once. I mean compare the number of people who have heard of Charizard, Mewtwo, Pikachu, and Lucario with the number of people who have heard of Greninja.
IDK it would have been cool if they had like put Gengar in or something
Nahhh you're getting the wrong idea
as usual. I like Greninja well enough, I'm just confused as to why they put it in Smash other than "it's new."
Quote from: SlowPokemon on April 08, 2014, 04:19:55 PMTell me how Greninja is at all a normal choice for Super Smash Bros. xD lmao
Popularity is a big factor in choosing characters. XY is a popular game, and Greninja is popular among the players.
By the way, did anyone catch the Pokemon League stage in Greninja's trailer? Looks like it'll transform, since I saw Drasna's and Siebold's chambers I think.
Quote from: Echo on April 08, 2014, 04:25:51 PMBy the way, did anyone catch the Pokemon League stage in Greninja's trailer? Looks like it'll transform, since I saw Drasna's and Siebold's chambers I think.
Ohhh that's a really neat idea.
I mean, if they just left pokemon inclusions to gen I (and lucario, I guess) while updating other franchises' characters to include those more recently relevant, it'd be like them admitting to genwunners "you're right, these ones we originally created were much better, no use considering the new ones". And if you would want pokemon from other generations just not VI, that's kind of the same thing. Greninja is easily the most popular starter introduced in gen VI, if not the most popular pokemon in it in general, so it makes a lot of sense to me.
Really happy with this Direct. Elec Man confirmed for an Assist Trophy totally made it for me.
Wish we got a few new characters rather than a bunch of returning ones, but five new additions to the roster is still pretty good for one day I'll say.
And besides, don't forget about the hidden characters guys. They're not going to confirm those until after launch, and even then it'll likely be hidden on the site like it was during Brawl. For all we know, Ness, Captain Falcon, and Jigglypuff are unlockable like they were in the original.
Quote from: blueflower999 on April 08, 2014, 04:34:50 PMElec Man confirmed for an Assist Trophy totally made it for me.
Proto Man or Bass would have been better, but hey Elec Man is pretty cool as well.
Quote from: Yugi on April 08, 2014, 08:18:15 PMProto Man or Bass would have been better, but hey Elec Man is pretty cool as well.
You never know, there could be more Assist Trophies too.
This alone satisfied any Mega Man representation for me though:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7001/13726008703_fe531d549b_o.gif)
WAIT I JUST NOW WATCHED IT RATHER THAN JUST LOOKING AT REVIEWS OF IT, HOLY SHIT SO EXCITED FOR ROSALINA AND LITTLE MAC'S PLAY STYLES
Some thoughts after the Direct.
Release date
Pleasantly surprised by the early release of the 3DS version. Wasn't expecting either before something like October. Also, it kind of makes sense to release the "worse" version first, so people will feel like upgrading to the other version after a few months. Releasing at the same time would probably hurt sales for both. Though I doubt this is only a marketing decision, apparently 3DS development is that much faster.
Technical stuff
They claim 60 fps in 3D. That's going to be great if they can keep that promise, especially if there's no fps drops or such. The 30 fps assist trophies sounds like an interesting way to optimize the game, though I wonder how noticeable that is.
Stages and Music
The music options for the Wii U version look nice.
Balloon Fight stage looks interesting as you don't appear to die when walking to the side, instead appearing on the other side. KO only by falling into water / being launched up?
Palutena's Temple looks huge.
So I guess Ridley is confirmed as a stage hazard? Though was there a reason they showed only his shadow? Unfinished model or some sort of misdirection? I know Ridley's rather popular on people's wishlist for playable characters. Keeping the hype alive, I guess.
Online
I hope they get their online service sorted for this. Especially for the 3DS version where the difficulty of local multiplayer might increase the popularity of online. Surely they've learned their mistake from Brawl.
The For Fun / For Glory division seems like an interesting idea. Though in my opinion going with Final Destination was a mistake. Despite the "Fox only, no items, Final Destination" joke, something like Battlefield would've been more enjoyable. Also more balanced, a completely flat stage isn't exactly idea.
Also I'd like to know more details on how well the online battles against friends work. Hope they actually get the lobby system somewhat functional.
Global Smash Power sounds weird, isn't it pretty much an inverted ranking system where a higher number is better instead of lower? So people know how close they are to the worst player instead of the best? Must suck for the guy with a score of 0.
Items and all that
The items look great. Also, it appears there's going to be lots of them, with all the new ones in addition to many of the old ones.
Apparently lots of returning Assist Trophies from Brawl. Though the new ones seem more interesting, yay for Mother Brain and Dark Samus. The Pong trophy is also great.
I like how they made two tiers of Pokeballs. Assuming the legendary Pokemon are actually more effective, that should make it fun to prioritize whether to go grab a Pokeball or not.
Fighters
I'm liking the separation of the transforming characters, never was too fond of switching character mid-match. Also, Sakurai seems to enjoy joking around.
Zero Suits Samus' jet boots look kind of weird, though. Guess they had to justify the Other M heels somehow. Other than that, I think they improved her looks, at least her face. She always looked a bit odd in, say, the Prime series.
The changes made to the veteran fighters' moveset make me wonder how much they are focusing on balancing the characters this time around.
Also that Pseudo-Palutina trophy was a clear hint that Sakurai is aware of the playable Palutina rumors.
Wii Fit Trainer and Little Mac alternate costumes. Maybe costumes for other characters as well?
The Pokemon trailer was great. Having not played X/Y, I'm not that familiar with Greninja. Though from what I hear he is rather popular starter? Also, I thought he was going to be Mewtwo at first, until the water sound effects kind of gave it away. Once again Sakurai likes to trick us.
Pokemon is kind of a special case in Smash Brothers as the series evolves (heh) more than the others, in a sense that they keep introducing new characters much more often than most Nintendo series. Must be difficult to balance between including the old fan favorites while also introducing new playable Pokemon and not overload the game with too many Pokemon characters.
Smash run
Interesting concept. Also in the sense that on a Wii U it wouldn't work without splitscreen. On 3DS everyone has their own screen anyway, so it fits great. Might be quite fun to play.
I wonder what kind of modes they'll have on the Wii U, though with it releasing much later I guess we won't be hearing about those for a while.
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on April 08, 2014, 04:22:55 PMIDK it would have been cool if they had like put Gengar in or something
Please, no. Anything but more Gen 1. Gen 1 is great and all, but super overrated. We need more Gen 5.
Agreed, Gen 1 is way too overrated. We need some love for the other gens.
i didn't even notice any new Pokemon items from Gen 5. Kinda odd, if you ask me, but I probably just missed it.
KYUREM BABY, KYUREM!! Also, if that movie at the end of the direct was anything to go by, there's gonna be A LOT of Pokemon in these upcoming games. I like that a lot. :P
Gen 1 is not overrated.
Also I like the changes so far. Now I just need to know if I want to get the game for my 3DS or my WiiU.
It makes me grimace every time I see a piece of Pokémon merchandise that only has Pokémon from Gen 1 on it.
I literally can't think of any other game series where seemingly half the fanbase are completely infatuated with the first game.
I agree, Roz. I think people put too much emphasis of the newer Generations. They have to be around for a while before they get appreciated. I'm still not entirely happy with Gen IV yet. :P
I'm sure they'll have some awesome features for the Wii U, but in my opinion, it's probably going to be the 'pretty game with nothing else going for it.' Sakurai knows that the 3DS is far more popular, and this staggered release probably won't help the Wii U either.
Quote from: Roz~ on April 09, 2014, 06:27:26 PMGen 1 is not overrated.
^This. I hate how people are getting bashed for saying gen I is their favorite or even really good.
The thing is the way they have it set up, Gen 1 is pretty much the most impactful and influential generations of the series. It's the most well known, having hit the largest number of players, and pretty much has the most impactful pokemon.
Even if some (or most) of them are a tad strange, they will always be considered by many to be best! It's like a series of movies, really. No one says "OMG SHREK 8 WAS THE MOST INSPIRATIONAL ONE OF THE LOT!" do they? :P
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on April 09, 2014, 07:16:01 PMThe thing is the way they have it set up, Gen 1 is pretty much the most impactful and influential generations of the series. It's the most well known, having hit the largest number of players, and pretty much has the most impactful pokemon.
yeah gen 1 was such a bold leap from gen 0, i wonder why none of the other generations have been so dynamic /sarcasm
Of course it's the most influential. It's the first game of a series; you can't really have much more of an influence on a series than at the point at which you create it. That's not really the point; people get so caught up in nostalgia/attached to the pokemon from their childhood that they neglect to realize the vast improvements in gameplay that are made from generation to generation. Judging based on "impactfulness" of specific pokemon is pretty silly, if you ask me; kids of this generation seem to love this generation's pokemon just about as much as we loved those of our respective generations. Until somebody comes up with a codified set of objective qualifiers that make a certain pokemon good or bad, I don't think there's much more than "youth appeal" that we can judge them on.
Of course I love gen 1, and am equally frustrated with people who bash on it, but really that's just an exaggerated response to the original complaints made against later generations. Pure "genwunners" who, rather than simply claiming it as
their favorite, claim that the following generations are
objectively bad, are far worse, in my opinion.
Yeah, the other Pokemon aren't bad! It's just people tend to love what they grow up more with as a child. I suppose Generations I and III were my first exposure to Pokemon (LeafGreen and Emerald), so I even find Generation II as more of a tack-on. XD
Exactly, it's going to be viewed differently by different people.
Nothing is "overrated," just rated. :P
Only three pikmin? And a set order? I am not amused...
Well, technically they include 5, just 3 at a time. And I like it a lot, because it puts more strategy into playing as Olimar. Now it's going to be a lot more worthwhile to know the effects of each pikmin, because you'll actually have knowledge concerning which ones are going to be available at what time, rather than leaving it up to random chance until you actually pull them from the ground.
Yeah, I actually like that they're putting more of an emphasis of strategy on Olimar, makes him more true to his games.
I'm still excited for Greninja, tbh. It's no Layton, to be sure, but still. Greninja is probabky in my top 5 Gen6 pokemon.
I think it's the best Pokemon they could've add. It looked pretty cool imho. I'm definitely going to use it.
unlockable layton plz
What would either of them even do though?
Still dreaming about having Lip in a smash game.
Too bad that's just a fantasy. :<
Quote from: Dude on April 10, 2014, 05:18:29 PMWhat would either of them even do though?
Wright appeared in MvC3, so it won't be too hard to make a moveset for him.
Not sure about layton though.
I think Layton would work better as an assist trophy.
I can't remember if we've had this discussion yet, so I'll go ahead and ask: Of the confirmed new characters to this game, who are you most excited to play as? For me, so far it's definitely Rosalina and Luma. I love Rosalina, she kicks ass in Super Mario 3D World.
Olimar.
But my first and greatest love will always be Game & Watch.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on April 23, 2014, 05:14:52 PMOf the confirmed new characters to this game
Sorry if I was unclear--I mean the newcomers who haven't been in any previous games.
My answer remains.
There is only the One.
I'll be pretty disappointed if Mr. Game & Watch doesn't return. He was one of my main three :/
Not really all that excited for most of the new comers :/
Mega Man, obviously.
mega man more like mehga man :P
Wii Fit Trainer for me probably
the male version ofc
Rosalina, Villager and Greninja. I'm gonna enjoy playing as them so much, especially Rosalina.
If Ike isn't in (which he likely won't be D:) I'll be playing as Greninja.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on April 23, 2014, 06:26:03 PMmega man more like mehga man :P
rosalina more like another generic mario princess
I'm really excited for pretty much all of the new characters. In terms of who I'm most glad about their inclusion, I'd say mega man. He's been a long time coming. Greninja is not-too-distant second, just because I love him.
In terms of playstyle, either little mac or rosalina. Both have such cool mechanics, I'm excited to try them out.
Greninja :]
Some of the new mechanics, like controlling both Rosalina and Luma, are going to be really cool or they're going to be terrible I think.
Little Mac is going to be hard to use since you have to plan everything around attacking while standing on the ground.
Most excited for Mega Man. I'll probably use Greninja and Wii Fit Trainer a lot, and probably a bit of Little Mac. Probably won't use Rosalina since she kinda looks like a big/floaty/slow character like Mewtwo and Zelda, and I don't really like how they play, but we'll see. Villager's just someone I don't care about at all.
But in the end I'll probably just pick Marth for 90% of the time anyway. >_>
Quote from: Echo on April 23, 2014, 10:13:39 PMZelda
Quote from: Echo on April 23, 2014, 10:13:39 PMdon't really like how they play
maybe if you don't like being one of the most overpowered characters in the game, haha
Sheik >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zelda and I'm glad they seperated them.
Mine is not confirmed but there's 99.99% chance he'll get in: K RoolWario.
I always loved Wario's quirkiness in Brawl, so yeah. Oh, and Mr Game & Watch, obviously. :J
We have to remember about hidden characters, too. They've probably revealed all that they're going to reveal pre-release.
According to the leaked list, Chrom from Fire Emblem is a playable character. That's plausible, though my brother's extremely pissed - "FUCKING CHROM!!" :P
If we're both referring to the same list, it's clearly photoshopped.
I haven't seen the list, but it's damn plausible that Chrom's in it. :P I'm surprised Wario hasn't been announced yet... Not that I use him, my brother would be very sad, though. XD
I wouldn't be surprised if Chrom was in this smash. They're trying to take the best characters and stages from both 3DS and WiiU for the games, and Fire Emblem: Awakening was one of the 3DS's best early titles. Not only that, but Arena Ferox is a stage in the 3DS version, which is from Awakening as well. The chances of Chrom being included in Smash are extremely high, and I for one would be stoked to see him.
I'm not saying that there's no chance of Chrom appearing (I would like either him or Lucina to appear), I'm just saying that the possible "list" that fingerz was talking about was fake.
I'm not saying it wasn't fake. I'm just saying that the chances of Chrom making an appearance are extremely high.
Oh man, Chrom's gotta be in it. Preferably with feet this time.
Quote from: Yugi on April 28, 2014, 12:03:04 AMI'm not saying that there's no chance of Chrom appearing (I would like either him or Lucina to appear), I'm just saying that the possible "list" that fingerz was talking about was fake.
You talking about this one?
http://gematsu.com/2014/04/rumor-shulk-palutena-set-super-smash-bros
Quote from: SlowPokemon on April 28, 2014, 04:38:51 AMOh man, Chrom's gotta be in it. Preferably with feet this time.
he doesn't need feet when he has
dat body(http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121102040233/fireemblem/images/0/0d/Chrom_Beach_DLC.png)
I actually hope that that's a costume for him if he gets in. >_>
yes plz
Slightly off-topic, but my brother showed me how inappropriate that game sounds if you just listen to the character voices during story-line text. I don't know many names, so sorry... XD He demonstrated by turning up the volume during the part where Grima:
Grima: Hahahahaha!
Woman: Oh!
Grima: YES!!
Woman: No!
Grima: Hmph!
...
Grima: YAAAAAHHH!!
Woman: (scream!)
Yeah, we were both dying of laughter by that point... XDDDD
Quote from: fingerz on April 28, 2014, 06:16:34 PMSlightly off-topic, but my brother showed me how inappropriate that game sounds if you just listen to the character voices during story-line text.
This doesn't have innuendo, but my favorite voice clip exchange is in Chapter 1 (major spoilers for the whole game though!)
don't read until you've beaten at least Chapter 6
Marth: "You may call me Marth."
Chrom: "Really?"
Marth: "No."
Ahahaha! That's hilarious! It looks like a very well-crafted game, actually. I'd be inclined to buy it if it wasn't so damn expensive. That being said, I'm not a fan of strategic games. Pokemon is a great example of that; I've never done anything but make my team a powerhouse. :P
It's a great game, but not necessarily a great fire emblem game. It just doesn't have the complexity or unforgivability (even on classic) as some of the others. And it completely ditched the weight system: In other games, like sacred stones, more powerful or heavier weapons have a higher weight that makes them harder to attack twice with. Awakening remove that strategy and encourages you to only equip the most powerful weapons and gives you multiple copies of each.
Actually, it is necessarily a great Fire Emblem game. I have not heard anyone else say otherwise.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on May 03, 2014, 04:41:24 PMActually, it is necessarily a great Fire Emblem game. I have not heard anyone else say otherwise.
qft
I haven't played enough to compare it to others, but, while the graphics were great, it seems more casual and less punishing than the other games. I've only played 3 games: Shadow Dragon (terrible), awakening (good), and Sacred Stones (great). My only possible gripe with stones is the limit of support conversations each character can have. I think the story is better and much more emotional and, personally, I love the sprites for the GBA games. The music for awakening was incredible, however.
But, back to the topic: Chrom for Smash!
Oh Chrom's gotta be in smash. I don't doubt it at all.
Pic of the day: lights that can fall on a boxing ring. Hmmm, that sounds familiar, don't you think? :J
(http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/6EePxnbmwHE/hqdefault.jpg)
The truth is it doesn't have anything to do with Punch Out!!, so... ::)
Reminds me of the boxing ring from Animal Crossing
new poll
Charizard isn't a newcomer
Sort-of-newcomer.
Spoiler
(http://i.imgur.com/zILPKfC.png)
Made mah day.
It looks like nearly all of Brawl's roster will be back at this point, huh.
(http://i.imgur.com/Gna2RNU.png)
Quote from: Nebbles on May 23, 2014, 09:44:00 AMIt looks like nearly all of Brawl's roster will be back at this point, huh.
Yeah, that's the impression I had when it was revealed that Toon Link was returning.
Dude has Ike been workin out or?
I guess so. I'm not complaining though, he looks good.
Quote from: K-NiGhT on May 23, 2014, 06:37:41 PMDude has Ike been workin out or?
Ike definitely lifts.
Anyways, Ike and Marth look different because they've been updated to how they look in their newest games before Awakening, so they're in their 20s now instead of their teens like in Brawl.
Quote from: Nebbles on May 23, 2014, 09:44:00 AMIt looks like nearly all of Brawl's roster will be back at this point, huh.
Why change something when it has been proven to work and be profitable
Exactly. The Brawl roster was great, why cut anyone?
(http://i.imgur.com/b2s9Kbs.png)
Also:
Quote from: Waddle Bro on May 23, 2014, 11:38:41 PMWhy change something when it has been proven to work and be profitable
Not that I'm complaining about Ike coming back in (Personally, although it was unexpected, I like it), but people tend to complain when people produce the same thing over and over again.
Not that I'm complaining about Ike coming back in (Personally, although it was unexpected, I like it), but people tend to complain when people produce the same thing over and over again.
Not that I'm complaining about Ike coming back in (Personally, although it was unexpected, I like it), but people tend to complain when people produce the same thing over and over again.
I wouldn't call one comeback "over and over again"
OMG IKE HOLY SHIT YES!! Now I can play as my favourite character again! :D
I'm still hopin for Chrom :P
Hahaha! Yeah, it'd be hilarious if they did. ;)
So I'm entering in a school brawl tourney, without ever playing brawl at all?
What's a really bad character to enter in as and main for the tournament?
Not Snake.
I normally main Pikachu which means its probably the easiest to control
I never pick a character now. I just go random. It doesn't matter what character they are or who I am, they're still going down. :P
Quote from: Yugi on May 25, 2014, 10:24:03 PMSo I'm entering in a school brawl tourney, without ever playing brawl at all?
What's a really bad character to enter in as and main for the tournament?
I'm gonna have as much fun with it as possible, and picking someone actually good would be bad for me.
By bad character, do you mean they're hard to control, or really low on the competitive tier?
Be Ness or Lucas! They're bloody annoying. :P
Ness and Lucas are somewhat hard to control, but really good if you can control them right.
If you want "god, they are terrible" Link, Zelda, and Ganondorf are the lowest tier. All three. They're called the triforce of suck.
I give Zelda credit to fill the support role in a team battle, while switiching to sheik when someone gets close to fill the close combat role.
Also, I decided to go Jigglypuff, but thanks for the suggestions!
Oh, excellent choice. Jigglypuff is awful.
Jigglypuff isn't really fun to play though, without the air mobility and restsplosions she had in melee. Just chain grab everyone with ice climbers/dedede - you usually don't come across competitive players in small tournaments, so their helpless reactions would be priceless.
Trying to win with a low tier character doesn't have much novelty in low level play, because no matter who you pick, they're still gonna cry "cheap." Olimar, I suppose, is the your best bet for that. While he's actually high tier, for some reason, he has a reputation among ignorant players for being the worst.
Actually, considering that there's a melee tourney, I might consider going olimar for brawl, jiggly for melee.
Jigglypuff is my favorite character. He kicks ass. Not even joking.
It's probably just me, but Ike is pretty good and easy to control. But his recovery moves suck. Roy is awesome in melee.
Why is Toon Link so much higher than Link on the tier list?
Because Toon Link is pretty much better at every aspect than Link.
Including design.
Quote from: Yugi on May 26, 2014, 03:48:23 AMActually, considering that there's a melee tourney, I might consider going olimar for brawl, jiggly for melee.
Jiggly is tier S in melee - learn rest combos and people will think your god. Easy ones: Up Throw -> SH -> rest (on fast fallers), u-tilt -> rest for everyone else. Don't forget to spam B-air/wall of pain ^^
Quote from: maelstrom. on May 26, 2014, 06:27:30 AMIt's probably just me, but Ike is pretty good and easy to control. But his recovery moves suck. Roy is awesome in melee.
I think you mean Marth, Roy is terrible. :/
Quote from: SlowPokemon on May 26, 2014, 12:02:07 PMIncluding design.
Especially design. Non-Toon Link is ugly in Brawl. >_>
Quote from: Yugi on May 26, 2014, 03:48:23 AMActually, considering that there's a melee tourney, I might consider going olimar for brawl, jiggly for melee.
Good luck at the tourney. Jiggly's really good in Melee btw. Follow what FireArrow said. Or just jump around and spam aerial attacks and catch people off-guard with Jiggly's ridiculous hitboxes.
Like, Jiggly's arm/leg would be say, this big: |.|
But then the range turns out being this big: |........|
Example:
(http://i.imgur.com/lWnwC.gif)
like, how do you even explain that
The back air hit box is hilarious. Ness U-tilt/U-are takes the cake though (well, Marth's grabs are just plain homophobic.)
(http://images.nintendolife.com/news/2014/05/nintendo_announces_the_gamecube_controller_adapter_for_wii_u/attachment/0/large.jpg)
god bless gamecube controller compatibility
This week Target is doing a deal where if you buy 1 reservation card, you get 2 free. Each reservation card is $1 and comes with a $5 gift card when you pick up the game. I reserved the Wii U game and got a free 3DS reservation for both my brother and me B)
...dang, I kind of wish I knew that before pre-ordering at Gamestop. At least I'll get the Wii U version for the holidays.
Quote from: Echo on May 26, 2014, 01:23:30 PMEspecially design. Non-Toon Link is ugly in Brawl. >_>
WHY DOES EVERYONE HATE TWILIGHT PRINCESS'S ART STYLE
Quote from: blueflower999 on May 26, 2014, 09:27:24 AMWhy is Toon Link so much higher than Link on the tier list?
Quote from: Waddle Bro on May 26, 2014, 09:38:25 AMBecause Toon Link is pretty much better at every aspect than Link.
I've been confused about this a lot, too. TL is a bit faster, but he's also weaker. A lot of people like his down+A in the air for being faster, for some reason, but it's so much worse, imo. First of all, you can only go down vertically, so it's impossible to use it for a quick, arced-jump finishing move. Second, it has so little damage and distance hit in comparison to Link's, so it can't really be used as a finishing move at all. Boomerang, I guess it's a matter of playstyle, but it's really fun to combo regular link's boomerang in a way that either drags them back for an easy smash hit, or makes them dodge into other attacks (usually bombs. abuse the shit out of bombs).
It's mostly just funny to me because a lot of my friends have challenged this view of mine, 1v1ed me as TL versus regular link, and lost horribly...
Quote from: FierceDeity on June 05, 2014, 06:26:53 PMWHY DOES EVERYONE HATE TWILIGHT PRINCESS'S ART STYLE
I've been confused about this a lot, too. TL is a bit faster, but he's also weaker. A lot of people like his down+A in the air for being faster, for some reason, but it's so much worse, imo. First of all, you can only go down vertically, so it's impossible to use it for a quick, arced-jump finishing move. Second, it has so little damage and distance hit in comparison to Link's, so it can't really be used as a finishing move at all. Boomerang, I guess it's a matter of playstyle, but it's really fun to combo regular link's boomerang in a way that either drags them back for an easy smash hit, or makes them dodge into other attacks (usually bombs. abuse the shit out of bombs).
It's mostly just funny to me because a lot of my friends have challenged this view of mine, 1v1ed me as TL versus regular link, and lost horribly...
Toon Link is also much floatier than Link. This can be a good or bad thing depending on your views, being floatier allows you to play a much better air-game but also causes you to be knocked back much further.
Toon Link's down+A smash is also a meteor smash if you hit your opponent right as you use the attack; or in other words, sweet spot it. Of course, if you miss and are off the stage, bye bye!
Both boomerangs have their own qualities, so it's just a matter of preference.
I don't really like tier lists, but Toon Link is probably higher up because of his:
-Greater control of the air
-Much better recovery
-Better ability to combo people
-Shorter Hitbox
-EASY ON THE EYES DESIGN
Seriously, I love both design choices, but Twilight Princess has TOO MUCH DARK I CANT EVEN TELL WHERES WHAT
I call dibs on battling SlowPokemon first on Wii U
THE MII.
THE FREAKIN' MII.
ALL IS GOOD WITH THE WORLD
Who the **** thought it was a good idea to put pac-man in?
Someone who listened to the fans?
Yeah, a lot of people have wanted him for a while now, haha. He's had games on nintendo consoles before, so it's not unwarranted.
wait so who are the newcomers
Can't really be surprised about Pac-Man since Bandai Namco is co-developing the game.
Pac-Man?
Well so long as he has a better moveset than that of SFxT I'm happy.
Quote from: Yugi on June 10, 2014, 08:06:29 PMwait so who are the newcomers
Today we got the Mii Fighters, Palutena, and Pac-Man. Chrom, Shulk, and the Chorus Men are still on their way according to the leaker.
Chorus Men?
I really hope that leaker is correct. I was worried there might not be any Awakening characters after they confirmed both marth and ike.
So, did anyone watch the Invitational though??
Quote from: Echo on June 10, 2014, 08:12:05 PMToday we got the Mii Fighters, Palutena, and Pac-Man. Chrom, Shulk, and the Chorus Men are still on their way according to the leaker.
Pretty good. :3
Quote from: maelstrom. on June 10, 2014, 08:01:41 PMWho the **** thought it was a good idea to put pac-man in?
Quote from: FierceDeity on June 10, 2014, 08:17:29 PMI really hope that leaker is correct. I was worried there might not be any Awakening characters after they confirmed both marth and ike.
I wouldn't doubt that the leaker's right, considering that they told us every newcomer so far except for Rosalina & Luma, and they haven't been wrong yet.
I wouldn't have worried about Ike or Chrom though even without the leak, considering that Awakening became pretty popular, and FE's developers really like Ike too (see Awakening's DLC chapters). And in terms of Smash, I'd say Fire Emblem could warrant three characters if a series like Star Fox did, and I can't see them justifying removing a unique character like Ike if Toon Link came back lol.
Leaker said either Ness or Lucas is in a shaky spot though, so that's kind of a bother.
Quote from: Nebbles on June 10, 2014, 08:19:35 PMSo, did anyone watch the Invitational though??
Dat Mega Man Final Smash. Kirby's Ultra Sword nailing three people at once was cool too. I didn't get too into it since it wasn't a serious competition or anything, but I hope the players had fun.
If we're getting Wii Fit Trainer and Villager but not Ness and Lucas, I'm going to be pretty upset.
I know, I sound like a brat, but I can't help it.
Ness was one of the original 12, he isn't going anywhere; and Lucas returned for Brawl, so he's pretty likely to return again.
Quote from: blueflower999 on June 10, 2014, 08:34:55 PMIf we're getting Wii Fit Trainer and Villager but not Ness and Lucas, I'm going to be pretty upset.
I know, I sound like a brat, but I can't help it.
I'm sure
at least Ness is going to be in.
EDIT: Ninja'd.
I mean, yeah I'm sure Ness will be available, he was one of the original, plus it was only kinda recently that they made Earthbound available for virtual console, yeah?
Lucas, I'm not so sure. I definitely preferred playing as him over Ness, mostly just because he's absurdly better in almost every respect. But, Ness's relative incompetence could easily be fixed, and Lucas isn't very relevant to the west (not that Nintendo only makes games for the west, but it's still a huge factor). I still want to see him, but I wouldn't be so sure.
Quote from: MaestroUGC on June 10, 2014, 08:48:54 PMLucas returned for Brawl
To return, you have to have been there before, haha.
But clearly we should be worried about Captain Falcon's return, because, you know, Nintendo wouldn't see his failure to return as a huge middle finger to the fans, or anything
Right, Lucas was new to Smash in Brawl, my bad.
Falcon should return for the same reason as Ness.
Oh yeah, Mr. Game & Watch was shown by the way, even though they don't have a page up for him.
Quote from: MaestroUGC on June 10, 2014, 08:48:54 PMNess was one of the original 12, he isn't going anywhere; and Lucas returned for Brawl, so he's pretty likely to return again.
Lucas was introduced in Brawl. >_>
And I dunno, I just never really cared about the "original 12" thing, considering that Ness was gonna be replaced with Lucas back in Melee, and Jigglypuff was one of the last characters to be put in Brawl. I do think that if only one of them were to come back it'd be Ness, but that's more because of more international recognition (especially with the VC release of Earthbound) in addition to "seniority."
I do hope that they both make it back though. I was already kinda upset that Pokemon Trainer's probably not coming back, so I'd rather not lose Lucas on top of that.
I'm pretty sure Ness is coming back no problem. Why wouldn't he?
Quote from: Echo on June 10, 2014, 09:01:45 PMPokemon Trainer's probably not coming back
Yeah it's kind of impossible at this point, haha. If it were just charizard announced, it'd be like, well maybe they're going with gen VI pokemon? But with Greninja, there's really no "team" that trainer could have that would make sense.
Am I the only one who doesn't like Palutena? At all? Like, as in she might be my new CPU to beat up when I'm bored...
Wow, that actually sounds pretty fucked up, hahahahahaha
I actually haven't played Kid Icarus, but idk, I'm still excited to see how she plays.
palutena, rosalina, and pacman are my new favourite smashers
Rosalina is my favorite Mario character period. So if there aren't any more crazy reveals she'll be my favorite newcomer.
slowpokemon knows where its at B)
I'm still most excited for megaman, but rosalina's pretty high up there, too.
Also, I hadn't actually seen the video for pacman yet, but HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
"Pacman hungers for battle!" oh god nintendo I love you
Pac Man, Ike, and Greninja.
My body is ready.
I'm just glad Mr. Game and Watch has been confirmed. Looks like I've got my mains ready to go.
Mr. Game and Watch, Captain Olimar, Pac-Man, Mario, and Ice Climbers if they return.
I'm still waiting for Midna but it doesn't look like that's happening now :')
SUPER FIGHTING ROBOT
MEGA MAN
FIGHTING TO SAVE THE WORLD
i almost cried from laughing so hard that reaction was beautiful
That tournament was a lot of fun. As much as I want Shulk and Chrom, we don't really need 5 swordfighters. (counting mii)
Woke up at 5 and instead of going back to sleep I thought it would be a better idea to watch the invitational. Worth it.
That Mega Man final smash was great, especially if you notice KDJ running into it on purpose just so people could see it happen.
Quote from: maelstrom. on June 11, 2014, 06:42:03 AMThat tournament was a lot of fun. As much as I want Shulk and Chrom, we don't really need 5 swordfighters. (counting mii)
Wait, how did you get 5
including Chrom and Shulk..?
Link
Pit
Toon Link
Marth
Greninja (I think? I don't really remember his moves, but I remember him using water blades for Smash attacks)
Ike
Mii
Meta Knight (probably)
Quote from: Jamaha on June 11, 2014, 10:18:01 AMThat Mega Man final smash was great, especially if you notice KDJ running into it on purpose just so people could see it happen.
That'd be awesome if he did that on purpose, but to me it looked like he assumed it just missed and thought it was safe to go after the other two. >_>
http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2014/jun/23/mega-man-isnt-easily-accessible-super-smash-bros-wii-u-has-ton-recovery-his-attacks-maximilians-character-breakdown/
CONAN OMG DYING
late edit fuck https
You guys saw the Falco leak? It's not yet known whether it's true or not but probably Falco will be in SSB4. But the only 2 things that I want to know are: 1. Will there be a Starfox newcomer? 2. Is Wolf going to be in this game or will he be replaced or just gone? It's actually debatable since Wolf has been TOOOOOOOOOO OP in Brawl. Because he has a long ranged skill, a not bad recovery skill, has a shield(by shield I mean reflector), a strong ATK, and a final smash that can kill enemy's multiple times. The only con is the fact that he's SOOOOOOOOO hard to master. And the fact that he's one of THE slowest characters in brawl. But sometimes being slow is not that bad because you can control it easier. But I think they're not going to put Wolf. If they REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY don't put him in the next SSB, then I might as well not buy a Wii-U. Since he has been my most played character in brawl.
unfortunately I just do not follow your logic here
Wolf was only ever OP in Star Fox Assault
He's probably the worst of the StarFox fighters tbh
Actually, I prefer Wolf over Falco, but that's just me
Surprisingly (to me, anyways), Falco is tiered significantly higher than the other two, and Wolf is one rank above Fox. Personally, Fox is my favorite, but I've come to trust the tier rankings more recently.
falco has the spammy bullets
Falco > Wolf > Fox
Nah nah, here's the study that the Starfox addict wrote.
Swiftness
1.Fox
2.Falco
3.Wolf
Strongest
1.Wolf
2.Falco
3.Fox
The most balanced
1.Falco
2.Wolf
2.Fox (both are tie)
So in conclusion, Fox is the fastest, Falco is the most balanced, and Wolf is the strongest. But I think Swiftness doesn't matter much unless it's the attack animation that's slow. So personally, I prefer Wolf. But my second most played is Falco, and third being Fox. Well anyway, I FUCKING WANT WOLF!!!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oddly enough, whenever I play as one of them, Falco always seems the fastest.
I like Fox because:
a)His design is my favorite
b)his up smash
c)his laser of extreme fastness
d)his dash speed
e)you can use the up smash while dashing
I am just really bad with Falco and Wolf for some reason. I hate fighting CPU Falcos, though. They are the worst...
New character being announced on Monday. Any guesses?
Keeping my fingers crossed for Layton, though I really doubt it. I have to believe they're finally announcing Ness.
Creator of Xenoblade retweeted it so it's gonna be Shulk probably.
where the hell is ness tbh
Im fine with Shulk, but I want Ness! Why hasn't he been confirmed yet! I'll even take Lucas or Ninten! Anything to connect the Mother series!!
I'm pretty sure it's a new character, so no ness or Falcon Punches will be had
In every SSB game I've ever played all I ever did was spam thunderbolt with Pikachu. :p
But still, I'd love to see Wolf.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on July 11, 2014, 08:09:58 PMwhere the hell is ness tbh
Ness/Lucas are probably going to be among the characters who are in the game, but aren't announced beforehand.
That being said, hoping for Ridley!
It's likely it's just me, but I found Ness' controls on SSBM confusing.
My sister's boyfriend said Gorilla.
THAT'S what Greninja sounds like.
Gorilla ninja.
Ness was never announced for Brawl either, he was just unlockable and there. Ness is definitely going to be there, I've seen screenshots of a Mister Saturn and Franklin Badge.
Newcomer, I'm placing my bet on Shulk.
I kinda prefer Lucas to Ness. Will he be in it?
I don't see why not?
Does anyone use King Dedede? I was not too happy that he's in it...
Hmm I actually like using Dedede
Quote from: SlowPokemon on July 13, 2014, 02:33:31 AMHmm I actually like using Dedede
Yeah but would he be in your first 5 characters you pick to use?
Quote from: InfinitySoul on July 13, 2014, 02:56:32 AMYeah but would he be in your first 5 characters you pick to use?
That's just slow being difficult
>:D
There is a picture of a Rayman trophy right now on the SSB Wiiu/3ds website. So now im startung to think Rayman will be the new character or at least someone to connect the Rayman series.. Well anyway, 4 more hours till the reveal!
Oooh Rayman would be fun to play as.
But if a character is a trophy, they aren't in the game. (remember the pseudo-palatena trophy in the smash direct?)
OMG im freaking out right now! More Fire Emblem Characters!
CHROM FOR THE WIN!!!!!! AAHHHHHHHH
YAAAYYYY Chrom, Ike, Marth, Robin, Lucina!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That was the greatest thing, I have ever seen! Im a huge Fire Emblem fan!
Can't...control...hype!!!
Edit: Wow, I was so excited by the FE cast that I totally forgot that Captain Falcon was shown too lol
I was expecting Chrom, but not Lucina and Robin at all! Lol Captain Falcon felt so out of place there XD
But everyone knew Falcon was going to be in it.
Yeah he had to be! Can't play smash with out "Falcon Punch" XD
Wait! Is Chrom just Robin's final smash!?! He doesn't have a picture on The website.
(http://www.smashbros.com/images/character/lucina/screen-8.jpg)
Dayyumm
Quote from: InfinitySoul on July 14, 2014, 07:36:06 AMWait! Is Chrom just Robin's final smash!?! He doesn't have a picture on The website.
Yeah, he's a Final Smash. Lucina looks like she has the same moves as Marth too.
I was hoping for Chrom to be somewhere between Ike and Marth. Oh well..... :(
Yeah..at least they didn't just leave him out completely
Falcon's back, whoo! And the new FE characters look great.
(http://images.nintendolife.com/news/2014/07/feast_your_eyes_on_the_official_super_smash_bros_screens_for_robin_lucina_and_captain_falcon/attachment/18/630x.jpg)
Luigi is screwed! XD
Quote from: InfinitySoul on July 14, 2014, 09:06:56 AMLuigi is screwed! XD
Then he uses his final smash
and he's still screwed
Quote from: InfinitySoul on July 14, 2014, 07:45:00 AMYeah..at least they didn't just leave him out completely
Honestly, can't say I'm surprised about that. Chrom doesn't seem to have much to add to the table in terms of playstyle.
Lucina surprised me even more, though. Although I can't shake the impression that she's just a Marth palette swap? They didn't show off any unique moves, which would be the smart thing to do when announcing a new character.
(Disclaimer: I know nothing about Fire Emblem)
Quote from: Dudeman on July 14, 2014, 02:12:36 PMChrom doesn't seem to have much to add to the table in terms of playstyle.
I, uh, kinda doubt that "unique-ness" was the reason for not having Chrom playable, considering they showed Lucina who seems to have the same moves as Marth.
QuoteLucina surprised me even more, though. Although I can't shake the impression that she's just a Marth palette swap? They didn't show off any unique moves, which would be the smart thing to do when announcing a new character.
She has her own page as a newcomer. Seems like she just shares Marth's moves, like Roy did in Melee. She probably has different physics and move properties/damage, and not to mention the potential for different custom moveset options.
Well, I figured they wouldn't be adding both Chrom and Lucina, but I still expected them to include at least one of them, seeing as they're the most relevant "blue-haired FE swordfighters" at the moment (wow wait that's actually the pattern they're following, isn't it?). I'm really happy they included Robin, though, and I can't wait to see how the battle system is actually going to work with his tomes. Also, having Chrom in his final smash agrees pretty well with the partner system from the original game, so I'm pretty happy with that.
Quote from: Echo on July 14, 2014, 02:27:22 PMI, uh, kinda doubt that "unique-ness" was the reason for not having Chrom playable, considering they showed Lucina who seems to have the same moves as Marth.
Well, seeing as Chrom and Lucina are preeeetty identical in the source game (not counting for mother-attributed skills, or reclassing stuff), I think that a tendency against cloning was probably pretty significant in this decision. I'm hoping that Lucina isn't a total clone of Marth, either. We did only see a small portion of her moveset, after all. Maybe they'll incorporate some of the more popular reclassing/mother attributed skills for her?
Though, idk how exactly they'd make galeforce work...Idk, it seems like they've been straying from adding new clones for this game, and it'd be a shame if they completely broke that trend with Lucina.
So it's Lucina, Robin, and Captain Falcon?
Quote from: zoroark1264 on July 16, 2014, 11:19:29 AMSo it's Lucina, Robin, and Captain Falcon?
Yup. So Lucina's been confirmed to be a clone of Marth, with the main difference being that she doesn't have a damage bonus at the tip, which will probably end up being bad.
Anyways, couple of scans here:
http://nintendoeverything.com/wp-content/uploads/smash-bros-scan-1.jpg
http://nintendoeverything.com/wp-content/uploads/smash-bros-scan-2.jpg
lol Kirby
Well, it's not that she's missing a "bonus," per say, as much as the damage that is at the tip of Marth's blade is being spread out along the entirety of Lucina's.
GUYS A LEAKED SMASH TRAILER
Quote from: shadowkirby on July 28, 2014, 09:31:02 AM
GUYS A LEAKED SMASH TRAILER
GUYS A
LEAKED SMASH TRAILER BAD LINK
Fixed.
hey guys
sticker star got a stage
*sits back and watches the fireworks*
Oh it changes.
Never mind.
Yep, it's a general Paper Mario stage. Thank god.
sticker star more like augmentative of recidivism
I'm p excited Sticker Star was a ridiculously charming game even if the gameplay was lacking oomph. A stage based on Paper Mario will be adorable.
Quote from: Yugi on July 28, 2014, 11:48:19 PMsticker star got a stage
Interesting...maybe a foreshadowing of a Paper Mario 5? :-\ *Crosses fingers*
Paper Mario should have gotten a stage by now, anyway.
In fact I think Paper Mario would be a fitting fighter to add to the series. Oh well, maybe next time...
Quote from: MaestroUGC on July 29, 2014, 07:24:03 AMIn fact I think Paper Mario would be a fitting fighter to add to the series. Oh well, maybe next time...
Very true. He could have a hammerand maybe some paper abilities from TTYD or flip ability from SPM :P
Anyway...haha
Quote from: mariolegofan on July 29, 2014, 07:06:58 AMInteresting...maybe a foreshadowing of a Paper Mario 5? :-\ *Crosses fingers*
No. Nothing in Smash has any "foreshadowing" on future works. It's all about paying homage to existing works.
I'm pretty sure I've already posted this here, but this page is absolutely hilarious--it's a collection of (what I hope are) kids' Miiverse posts in the Super Smash Bros. community begging Sakurai to include random characters as well as berating him for making "dumb" decisions.
http://pleasesakurai.tumblr.com/
You know if half of anyone talking about this game got characters or features included then this game would be nothing more than a Virtual Nintendo History Museum with some occasional fighting.
I feel the need to post this:
(http://i.imgur.com/HABELlQ.jpg)
My favorite thing is how people think that every time a new character announced, they're taking up one of the "limited character slots." There are not a set amount of characters for these games! xD Like with Lucina, she's got the same moves as Marth so it's actually more of a bonus that she's included.
Yeah, but to me it's a disappointment when they announce characters I couldn't give less shit about when I'm just here waiting for my wishlist to come true. It's not like they have unlimited time to add more characters, they should be focusing on coding my wanted characters if you ask me
Quote from: Waddle Bro on July 29, 2014, 09:45:13 AMYeah, but to me it's a disappointment when they announce characters I couldn't give less shit about when I'm just here waiting for my wishlist to come true. It's not like they have unlimited time to add more characters, they should be focusing on coding my wanted characters if you ask me
yeah it's not like the character list has been final for over a year now
All this game is missing is it physically being in my hands, to be honest.
Other than that it's great so far.
yeah but the character list hasn't been revealed yet and if they had more time for coding there would be a chance for more characters than there will be now
Quote from: SlowPokemon on July 29, 2014, 07:42:06 AMhttp://pleasesakurai.tumblr.com/
mmd
Quote from: SlowPokemon on July 29, 2014, 08:26:24 AMMy favorite thing is how people think that every time a new character announced, they're taking up one of the "limited character slots." There are not a set amount of characters for these games! xD Like with Lucina, she's got the same moves as Marth so it's actually more of a bonus that she's included.
True. But, from a competitive standpoint (not that I can really consider myself part of that community, but meh) it's kinda dangerous to make a roster particularly big, because at a certain point it just becomes an island of viable characters within a pool of nonviable ones. Look at marvel vs capcom (specifically, 2), for example. There were 56 playable characters in MvC2, each player selecting 3 per fight. That's a lot of goddamn possibilities. But only a select few of these combos were actually viable in competitive play. The same ends up being true of SSB. It's not that I think that it can't be more balanced than MvC, or that they should pander to competitive players, but it's kind of disappointing to come to love a character, only to find out that if you ever wanted to take that character to tournament, you're just crippling yourself by playing it. The more characters there are, the more that's going to happen. I don't know if we're at that threshold for competitive/casual preference yet, but it's definitely a reason to be wary of oversaturation.
Quote from: MaestroUGC on July 29, 2014, 10:30:11 AMAll this game is missing is it physically being in my hands, to be honest.
Other than that it's great so far.
^^this. It's not like every character I'd ever want is being included in this smash bros, but it's a damn good roster so far regardless, and the game itself looks great. Characters important to me aren't necessarily as important to the rest of the fanbase; I'd actually be pretty concerned if Sakurai started pandering to my specific tastes/generation.
Lip plz sakurai
(http://37.media.tumblr.com/2c23be44f472c856bf3a24a7e3b67970/tumblr_n9i4lky0mw1swll5zo1_500.jpg)
> Chrom
> Good Character
> Someone liking Chrom over Henry or Basilio
waaaah this video game isn't catering to my personal needs waaaah
sakurai plz i wrote metroid fanfic you have to include every one of my original characters
You know he's still going to buy it, he's not fooling anyone.
Least of all me, Maestro.
sakurai add goku plz
Quote from: Nebbles on July 29, 2014, 10:16:41 PMsakurai add goku plz
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you have no idea how much i love that picture
Hmm, I get the feeling that that picture is a fake.
A convincing fake, but a fake nonetheless. I'm onto you Sakurai. I know your tricks.
Quote from: MaestroUGC on July 30, 2014, 10:47:20 AMHmm, I get the feeling that that picture is a fake.
A convincing fake, but a fake nonetheless. I'm onto you Sakurai. I know your tricks.
I wouldn't even say it's convincing.
It looks like a hacked brawl match screenshot.
Quote from: Yugi on July 29, 2014, 10:21:54 PM(https://38.media.tumblr.com/102b74a912cd676c2bb0c9adeafd0b63/tumblr_n91hzlRBi11r7pqrpo1_500.png)
You know what this forum needs? A "like" button. This pic has such genius.
Quote from: Dudeman on July 30, 2014, 11:27:07 AMYou know what this forum needs? A "like" button. This pic has such genius.
you know what this forum will never have? that.
Quote from: Dude on July 30, 2014, 11:29:33 AMyou know what this forum will never have? that.
Actually, it's an available mod for the forums (http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=3708) so if JaMaHa wanted to he easily could add it. :P
But then we get like trolls......
Quote from: blueflower999 on July 30, 2014, 11:57:44 AMActually, it's an available mod for the forums (http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=3708) so if JaMaHa wanted to he easily could add it. :P
Actually, it's a terrible idea so JaMaHa should completely ignore it. :P
There is this fantastic feature on the forums that allows you to reply to interesting posts and discuss what you liked about them.
Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
What is it?
(https://38.media.tumblr.com/7ee0cfe8f8966403107a628abdd8eeb2/tumblr_n9kex0lL2A1rfehe0o1_400.jpg)
"Reshiram appears on one of the stages in the 3DS version! Zekrom and Milotic will appear, too. It's close enough to the launch date, so I don't have to describe this stage to you, right? The design of this stage is based off of the surroundings of someone's castle." - Masahiro Sakurai
guys
Hey look, a Pokemon thing.
What am I looking at?
YES N'S CASTLE
I'd be pumped out, but I'm not going to buy the 3DS version. :[
I looks like this stage'll be similar to Spear Pillar from Brawl. Laser beams, anyone?
Also, can someone explain to me why Milotic will be in the stage? Does N have one?
^^I'm equally confused about this. I figured, maybe I had just forgotten a significant appearance, but nope, Milotic doesn't seem to have ever been in N's team, nor can I find any significant appearances in B/W.
Milotic had no significant B/W appearances, so my only guess is that it's for OR/AS?
^I guess that does make sense. It's strange to put it in a location from B/W, though. Couldn't they have used, I don't know, Kyurem?
I doubt it'll be ORAS since those games won't even be out, lol. It's probably just a cool looking Pokémon that fits the stage.
I'm not sure if there was a worse stage in Brawl than Spear Pillar though, so I really hope it isn't anywhere near like it lmao
I liked it! It was neat as a Diamond/Pearl stage, had really unique features, and had all of the best music in the game.
I thought it was creative enough, I guess, but it was pretty annoying to play on. Control inversion + stage that actively tries to kill you + campy underground tunnel area = not my favorite stage
Oh yeah, the underground tunnel. I don't know how many hours(?) of my time on that stage was spent chasing my opponents around in circles. So annoying...
How did Cresselia relate to Spear Pillar?
Not everything has to be spot-on to match the games, Sakurai pulls this kind of shit quite a lot.
Quote from: Dudeman on July 30, 2014, 11:27:07 AMYou know what this forum needs? A "like" button. This pic has such genius.
But there is a like button.
Look at the bottom left corner of the picture.
Quote from: Waddle Bro on July 31, 2014, 03:24:35 PMHow did Cresselia relate to Spear Pillar?
Not everything has to be spot-on to match the games, Sakurai pulls this kind of shit quite a lot.
Yeah, good point. I do wonder why Milotic is still in there, but eh, who cares.
Could be a reference to XY's Parfum Palace, which has statues of all three.
Oh wow you're right, it's probably Parfum Palace instead of N's Castle...
I don't recall a massive stone staircase with pillars at Parfum Palace. That building in the background ain't it if you ask me.
It is the Unova Pokemon League:
(http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110430100503/pokemon/images/a/aa/Unova_League_b.png)
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/4/4b/Pok%C3%A9mon_League_cutscene_BW.png)
(http://www.serebii.net/nscastle.jpg)
Yeah you're right. That's also where Team Plasma's castle is.
Yay, mystery is less mysterious! So...Milotic is relevant 'cause...? forgive me i havent played past gen 3
Quote from: Dudeman on July 31, 2014, 05:44:22 PMYay, mystery is less mysterious! So...Milotic is relevant 'cause...? forgive me i havent played past gen 3
"Quick, we need another Pokemon to put in the stage!"
"Uh... Milotic!"
Wait...
spear pillar is a stage in brawl?
...
brb
(http://37.media.tumblr.com/5fb4befafc8e8167d0fb4a4c69739004/tumblr_moivfryKiK1r837vko8_1280.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/4DTP1Ga.jpg)
Should've got this character instead for a Fire Emblem Awakening newcomer
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(http://i.imgur.com/PPlLM9m.jpg)
You asked for this one:
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(http://i.imgur.com/D435KX8.jpg)
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 11, 2014, 05:19:11 PM(http://37.media.tumblr.com/5fb4befafc8e8167d0fb4a4c69739004/tumblr_moivfryKiK1r837vko8_1280.jpg)
XD Im dying, thanks so much for the laugh XD
Meta Knight confirmed.
(http://www.smashbros.com/update/images/daily-jp.jpg?date=1407992609013)
Aww yea custom moves for Mega Man
I wouldn't be surprised if he had the biggest customization set in the game!
I'm happy about Meta Knight but I mean I'm surprised some people thought he might NOT be in it like he was basically the best fighter in Brawl.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 14, 2014, 07:59:34 AMI'm happy about Meta Knight but I mean I'm surprised some people thought he might NOT be in it like he was basically the best fighter in Brawl.
Which is exactly why people wanted to believe he wouldn't be in it.
I love it when people use the daily image URL for pictures because Echo's post about mega man has zero zero suit samus pictured rn lmao
L m a o
Not even embarrassed. But really, I just don't wanna bother editing my post.
Ghirahim confirmed as an assist trophy :D
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 21, 2014, 04:18:32 AMGhirahim confirmed as an assist trophy :D
They gave him the Waluigi treatment :'[
I would have loved to play as him.
Quote from: Waddle Bro on August 21, 2014, 06:03:36 AMI would have loved to play as him.
Then buy Hyrule Warriors.
Omg, with every new bit of information or update, I just want to slap everyone featured on the "Please Sakurai" (http://pleasesakurai.tumblr.com/) tumblr page.
Seriously. Everyone knows you're going to play the game regardless of what is featured, so you might as well shut yer trap, grow some big boy balls and fuckin deal with it. Shit.
Hah, sorry. As entertaining as they are to read, the sense behind these people just doesn't exist!!!
Oh yeah. Ghirahim not playable. Throwing a party (figuratively).
Ghirahim is the only Zelda character on par with Tingle in my opinion.
Quote from: Crazy Hand on August 21, 2014, 10:38:18 AMOh yeah. Ghirahim not playable. Throwing a party (figuratively).
Ghirahim is the only Zelda character on par with Tingle in my opinion.
but he's like the only gay villain in Zelda (he's gay right?)
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on August 21, 2014, 10:44:01 AMbut he's like the only gay villain in Zelda (he's gay right?)
Well he IS quite associated with long pointy things.
Quote from: Crazy Hand on August 21, 2014, 10:38:18 AMGhirahim is the only Zelda character on par with Tingle in my opinion.
I'd buy it. Not literally. Like, I understand your reasoning.
ill only play this game if pink gold baby rosalina in a biker jacket with a tanooki suit is playable
Quote from: Mashi on August 21, 2014, 11:29:37 AMill only play this game if pink gold baby rosalina in a biker jacket with a tanooki suit is playable
with the high score crown from super mario 3d world
Quote from: Mashi on August 21, 2014, 11:29:37 AMill only play this game if pink gold baby rosalina in a biker jacket with a tanooki suit is playable
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 21, 2014, 11:36:57 AMwith the high score crown from super mario 3d world
Have you guys been reading my fan fiction?
Er, I mean....
So, does that mean the "Trophy Quiz" leaks are fake? I mean, we got Palutena and Robin/Lucina, so that means that only a Metroid character (still counting on Ridley!) and a Skyward Sword character would need to be announced. Everyone was hoping for Ghirahim, but now he's an assist trophy. So, are we gonna get another Zelda character or not?
Wait a minute...if Ghirahim isn't it...then it must be another popular character...and Sakurai already said that the Wii Fit Trainer isn't the joke character...that only means...!
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(http://www.fanboy.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/ku-xlarge3.png)
It's Ganondorf. Obviously... :P
Quote from: maelstrom. on August 21, 2014, 12:02:44 PMIt's Ganondorf. Obviously... :P
I seriously doubt Ganon will ever be in a Smash Bros game, I mean, who would think that would be a good idea?
What's that?
He's already been in a Smash game? Two of them?
Since when?
2001 and 2008 respectively?
I don't believe you.
Is the character on th website list final, or is there more to be added? Because the fact that Charizard is a character and Ivysaur isn't really makes me salty. Ivysaur is sooooo much fun in Project M.
Whatever's on the site is confirmed, there are still (I imagine) a few unannounced characters that will be in the game, though I think it already hit its Pokemon quota.
Has anyone seen the "leaked" pictures that have been going around? Nobody here has mentioned them, and I only found out from the GameExplain YouTube channel on a video they relaxed yesterday, and there was a supposed final character list featured.
If those were actually leaks, I would say the joke character is
Wait for it...
Duck Hunt?!?!!
Quote from: Crazy Hand on August 21, 2014, 10:38:18 AMOh yeah. Ghirahim not playable. Throwing a party (figuratively).
Ghirahim is the only Zelda character on par with Tingle in my opinion.
I don't really get how a one-shot villain and a constantly recurring character who even has his own spin-off series are that comparable, but I guess Sakurai agrees that Ghirahim and Tingle are on par with each other, seeing as they're both Assist Trophies.
Quote from: Kman96 on August 21, 2014, 02:51:31 PMHas anyone seen the "leaked" pictures that have been going around? Nobody here has mentioned them, and I only found out from the GameExplain YouTube channel on a video they relaxed yesterday, and there was a supposed final character list featured.
If those were actually leaks, I would say the joke character is Wait for it...
Duck Hunt?!?!!
I'm gonna try not to say anything about those because there's been nothing to debunk or verify it. Nothing's proven it fake so far as I can tell, and there's no way to know for sure if it's real.
My favourite attempt at debunking it though was how people pointed out that the line above Kirby in the Character Select was thicker than the lines above the other two CPU characters, but then people found out from old demo videos that that's actually a glitch in the game.
It's fun to speculate, but you can never tell with leaks. >_<
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If they're getting rid of Ice Climbers, though, I think the Duck Hunt Dog would make sense to include as a representative of older NES games.
It's been indirectly confirmed that Ice Climbers will not return. They said the 3DS can't handle 5 fighters at once, or fighters made up of more than one person.
Quote from: maelstrom. on August 21, 2014, 04:35:44 PMIt's been indirectly confirmed that Ice Climbers will not return. They said the 3DS can't handle 5 fighters at once, or fighters made up of more than one person.
Source?
I mean, they have Rosalina & Luma, for example.
Edit: leak related, laughed at the Japanese reaction to it
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http://sourcegaming.wordpress.com/2014/08/21/what-do-japanese-gamers-think-of-the-smash-leak/
867: ミュウツーリドリークルール居ないとか外人作じゃないな
"I guess a foreigner didn't make this as Mewtwo, Ridley and K. Rool aren't in it."
IF THATS OFFICIAL I WILL BE SO HAPPY BECAUSE MY FAVORITE MARIO VILLAIN IS ON IT
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BOWSER JR. PLEASE OMFG
But the mii fighters aren't there oops
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 21, 2014, 06:08:43 PMBut the mii fighters aren't there oops
Apparently you pick Mii Fighters through a completely different menu option just for them. Which makes sense, seeing as they wouldn't appear on the roster for random online play and such.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 21, 2014, 06:08:43 PMIF THATS OFFICIAL I WILL BE SO HAPPY BECAUSE MY FAVORITE MARIO VILLAIN IS ON IT
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BOWSER JR. PLEASE OMFG
But the mii fighters aren't there oops
This so muchhhhhhhh GOD I LOVE HIM
Quote from: maelstrom. on August 21, 2014, 04:35:44 PMIt's been indirectly confirmed that Ice Climbers will not return. They said the 3DS can't handle 5 fighters at once, or fighters made up of more than one person.
This made me sad. :(
http://www.smashbros.com/us/music/
???????????????
The composer from Danganronpa is on that list I'm???
I dislike how much effort they put into layering the drums on the Multi-Man Smash.
Rio Hamamoto was a familiar and surprising name to see, I like his work.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 22, 2014, 04:02:36 AM???????????????
The composer from Danganronpa is on that list I'm???
Guess Sakurai's a fan, since the guy worked on Brawl and Uprising too.
Quote from: Echo on August 22, 2014, 04:45:40 AMGuess Sakurai's a fan, since the guy worked on Brawl and Uprising too.
hellaI absolutely love his music for Danganronpa.... "Beautiful Death" is so great
Bleh. MIDI sounds.
But great composers.
Dangan Ronpa's music is amazing. What a stellar list of composers, though.
Kenji Ito? Motoi Sakuraba? fuck yeah
Was browsing reddit's smash sub-reddit (disclaimer: I never browse reddit) and came across an imgur page of Japanese magazine scans posted 20 hours ago (from time of this post). There was a page on the Pyrosphere with a partial translation underneath:
QuoteOh, here's a translation I found too.
"1. It's a stage surrounded by scorching heat and lava. It's a relatively simple layout with one main floating platform with a few smaller platforms above it, but there seems to be the shadow of "something" giant...?
The "1" refers to a part of the picture.
...
...
SAKURAAAAAIIIIIII
EDIT: link (http://imgur.com/a/xWSQc)
YOKO SHIMOMURA YEAH BABY!! :D:D:D
Moar Mario & Luigi RPG music, plez! They've only ever had like one piece in a Super Smash Bros game, so PLEASE OH PLEASE!! Surely Dream Team Bros. music could be in it?
I'd love for the Dream Team battle music to be in there!
Two more!
http://www.smashbros.com/us/music/
Wow Nintendogs, now that was unexpected. o_o
the leak is true the leak is true
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2014/08/rumour_unconfirmed_smash_bros_footage_supposedly_shows_three_new_characters
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and that music when shulk wins...
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who the heck is shulk? is that from xenoblade or something? i think i recognized the little sword graphic, but i'm not sure.
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Yep. Xenoblade. I've only played 15 hours and I think he deserves to get in. One of the best games ever.
MAINING THIS CHARACTER SO MUCH GET YO ASSES PREPARED
BOWSER JR GOD I LOVE THIS GAME ALREADY
Quote from: Waddle Bro on August 25, 2014, 10:21:32 AMMAINING THIS CHARACTER SO MUCH GET YO ASSES PREPARED
BOWSER JR GOD I LOVE THIS GAME ALREADY
SAME SAME SAME FUCKING SAME (except that character is tied with Rosalina and Jigglypuff for my favorite characters)
Also, all of Dream Team's music deserves to be in this game, but most of all I hope the following pieces are included:
"Sacred Somnom Woods" or "Dreamy Somnom Labyrinth"
"Never Let Up!"
"Size Up Your Enemy"
"The Final Antasma Battle"
There had better be some Xenoblade remixes. But that music is so perfect, it needs no remixing. :P
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 25, 2014, 10:25:06 AMAlso, all of Dream Team's music deserves to be in this game, but most of all I hope the following pieces are included:
"Sacred Somnom Woods" or "Dreamy Somnom Labyrinth"
"Never Let Up!"
"Size Up Your Enemy"
"The Final Antasma Battle"
Completely agree, and if that last one is in there I will literally die from excitement. It will be my favourite game of all time. ^^
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/08/rumor-smash-bros-roster-leaks-you-can-finally-shoot-the-duck-hunt-dog/
Article with screencap \o/
Well, the videos are gone by a copyright claim by nintendo.
Leaked vids with raised audio:
https://vid.me/5so
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=878858
More screens
Might as well link to this leak album too:
http://imgur.com/a/PzeCw
Hahaha! Those screenshots don't even do the game justice. :P
Quote from: Echo on August 25, 2014, 06:12:08 PMLeaked vids with raised audio:
https://vid.me/5so
Broken already. Nintendo is fast. :P
Quote from: Waddle Bro on August 25, 2014, 10:21:32 AMMAINING THIS CHARACTER SO MUCH GET YO ASSES PREPARED
BOWSER JR GOD I LOVE THIS GAME ALREADY
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I'm not really keen on Bowser Jr., but having the Koopalings as alt costumes seems really cool.
If the leak is true, this seems like a mighty fine roster.
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That would be INCREDIBLE if Bowser Jr.'s alts were the Koopalings. Although I'd still like Bowser Jr. the best, I know that I've grown to love the Koopalings since Mario Kart 8. My brother would love to best up characters as Ludwig.
Still it seems like a weird thing, I don't really see it happening.
I do want to believe these... but at the same time, people can make really good fakes...
Is there a reason this discussion is in spoilers if it is only about a rumor?
Well, I guess if the rumors are confirmed, it's for good measure.
But it's a fighting game, a game in which most, if not all, discussions about it are directly related to the character roster.
Also, there's no point in spoiler tagging a "What if" conversation about an unreleased game. If it get announced or confirmed by release, great; if not, it makes for nice fantasy.
Fair enough. I guess some people want to discover the true roster for themselves, even if most of it is revealed.
The 'leaks' are pretty sketch city though, with claims that there's no Snake or Ice Climbers. I find that highly doubtful, so I would guess that they're either very nice fakes or just incomplete.
I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo stops announcing characters, what with the game set for release in one month. Got to have something to surprise people with.
I wouldn't be surprised if Snake doesn't return, though. Sakurai has stated multiple times that he wants to keep third parties to a minimum, and with Sonic, Pac-Man, and Mega-Man already confirmed I doubt we'll see any more.
Well, the game also releases in Japan in about three weeks. We'll have everything then.
From the bottom of my heart, I don't want this leak to be true. It just feels so...wrong, somehow. All the same, I can't live in denial, so I'll accept it as true. I do like the fact that Bowser Jr.'s in it (not like I was expecting him, but it's good to see a nice unique addition), the Duck Hunt Dog doesn't sit too well with me, I'm flabbergasted that Dr. Mario is in again, and what is up with Wario's left eye in his mugshot? All the same, we can't forget that there are 30-odd characters that have already been announced that we've already been preparing for, so I shouldn't discount the game just on the newcomers in the leaks. I'm still super excited to play this game. Ridley please don't fail me now
Snake was a highly popular character, so if they did claim to be trying to keep the competitive scene happy then they would be making a mistake by removing him lol
Quote from: maelstrom. on August 25, 2014, 07:14:34 PMBroken already. Nintendo is fast. :P
Rats. There are still these backups too though:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiOWnujhhPs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkNY3RezXlk&list=PLffOZhWifkP8va9vwU5z7pYhcLx2L5mJC&index=1
Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on August 25, 2014, 09:00:12 PMThe 'leaks' are pretty sketch city though, with claims that there's no Snake or Ice Climbers. I find that highly doubtful, so I would guess that they're either very nice fakes or just incomplete.
The leak's incomplete in terms of the character roster. One of the other pictures shows that All-Star Mode still isn't unlocked.
And eh, at this point, I'm pretty convinced by the leak due to all the pictures and the video footage. Or for even more recent evidence, the latest Miiverse "Pic of the Day" calls the Final Destination version of Gerudo Valley the "Omega" form of it, which is a term that matches well with this pic from the leak:
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Here are my reasons I believe its fake
1.Lucina should be with the Fire Emblem characters along with Dark Pit being with the Kid Icarus characters and Dr.Mario with the Super Mario Characters
2.Classic Smash tradition is doing that and putting the characters names under/above the character
But a possibility is
Lucina, Dr. Mario, and (presumably) Dark Pit are all clones, so it would make sense that they are all together honestly
The Shulk gameplay seemed very similar to Marth's moveset. The leak is like a fusion of half and half. Some things are easily explained and some are just hard to explain. Its most likely just a mod of brawl, the stages they used were obvious reskins of brawl stages. Shulk's voice clips are ripped straight from xenoblade, which nintendo might actually do, but I dont think they would do that. The trophies shown have mostly been in official footage of the game, and the new trophies are just models from other games. I cant explain the Duck Hunt Dog, I can't explain the Bowser JR. gameplay...we just have to wait till the game comes out
Also forgot that not all the characters are unlocked so everyone is randomly arranged, I still think its fake though :P
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 25, 2014, 10:25:06 AMAlso, all of Dream Team's music deserves to be in this game, but most of all I hope the following pieces are included:
"Sacred Somnom Woods" or "Dreamy Somnom Labyrinth"
"Never Let Up!"
"Size Up Your Enemy"
"The Final Antasma Battle"
Well, it's not one of those, but...
Ahhhhhh, I love that themeeee.
I just realized that having ACE doing music basically reconfirms Shulk's presence.
Xenoblade music just because:
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Quote from: Dudeman on August 27, 2014, 09:33:56 AMWell, it's not one of those, but...
Huh, well it's something. I don't really like that remix but it's a great composition anyway.
Quote from: maelstrom. on August 27, 2014, 10:03:25 AMI just realized that having ACE doing music basically reconfirms Shulk's presence.
Yeah, and having Masato Coda means we're getting the Monster Hunter, right?
:P I don't think so.
Not saying Shulk's not in the game; he probably is. But the composer list doesn't reveal anything about the playable fighters.
Quote from: Dudeman on August 27, 2014, 10:35:21 AMYeah, and having Masato Coda means we're getting the Monster Hunter, right?
:P I don't think so.
Not saying Shulk's not in the game; he probably is. But the composer list doesn't reveal anything about the playable fighters.
Ok, you are correct.
I was looking at the website just now, and where you can view the characters, there's a little bar down at the bottom which scrolls through all the characters introduced at this point. I also noticed that the last page contains Pit and 8 empty spaces.
Obviously, these are going to be secret characters probably only revealed after the game's release, but if I'm correct in assuming that those 8 spaces are going to eventually be used, that means there will be a total of 45 characters. that would be the most characters in any smash game to date.
Hm, good eye, K-NiGhT. So then, who would those characters be?
If we include the unannounced Brawl veterans (Ganondorf, Wario, Game&Watch, and probably one Star Fox character), that only leaves 4 spaces for newcomers, unless I'm forgetting someone important...did anyone count how many characters were on the leaked character select screen?
I actually haven't looked at that leaked roster yet.
Also, Game&Watch was announced with Pacman i believe :P
Yep, game&watch was already announced. The leaks showed Dark Pit, Duck Hunt Dog, Shulk, and Dr. Mario. I might be missing one.
edit: and Ganondorf. And Maybe a Starfox character. I don't know why Wario wasn't announced yet, but it took a while for Meta Knight and Captain Falcon
Technically, Game&Watch hasn't been officially announced yet; he was teased in the Pacman trailer, but he doesn't have a spot on the site yet.
EDIT: Just checked the leak; the picture has 48 characters with room for 5 more. 53 characters...dang, that's a lot. I just don't see that being real.
well, Dragon Ball Z games are known for large roster, the largest being over 120 characters. 53 honestly doesn't seem that far fetched, when you think about it.
edit: just realized that DBZ games have nothing to do with smash, but i was just trying to use it as a comparison.
SHULK COMFIRMED
AAAAAAAAAAAA
Shulk was expected, so no surprise here. Now this is!
http://club2.nintendo.com/smash-promo/
And the New 3DSs, of course.
Not to mention Xenoblade coming to 3DS
new 3DS exclusive
Yeah, the character reveal was spoiled a long time ago, so I'm happy to see Shulk, but it's not like it's surprising news anymore. Funny trailer though, and I still can't wait to play as him!
Well, that's it. Leak confirmed. Shulk actually doesn't play as similar to Marth as people were worried about, so that's good. The Monado system is really unique for Smash, also. The leak may have spoiled some of the magic, but I think Sakurai and the team still have a few surprises up their sleeves.
Quote from: Dudeman on August 29, 2014, 09:08:26 AMWell, that's it. Leak confirmed. Shulk actually doesn't play as similar to Marth as people were worried about, so that's good. The Monado system is really unique for Smash, also. The leak may have spoiled some of the magic, but I think Sakurai and the team still have a few surprises up their sleeves.
OH DUDE I JUST SAW WHAT YOU HAVE HIDDEN IN YOUR SIG
IT SAYS TAHU
THAT'S EPIC
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on August 29, 2014, 10:06:46 AMOH DUDE I JUST SAW WHAT YOU HAVE HIDDEN IN YOUR SIG
IT SAYS TAHU
THAT'S EPIC
I'd take credit for it, but plagiarism is wrong, kids. Go check out the Faber Files.
Um...need to stay on topic...Bionicle for Smash!!
Shulk, yay! AND 3DS XENOBLADE PORT!
i blame chugga
jk this is awsm
why would you blame chugga for this wonderful, wonderful event
Still holding out hope for Paper Mario.
Probably not.
Paper Mario for Sumper Smach Bross Fif: Escalated Dispute!
Quote from: Nebbles on August 29, 2014, 10:45:36 AMShulk, yay! AND 3DS XENOBLADE PORT!
Only for the new model lol
...I know :( This means I'll be getting the new model if I can't get my hands on the Wii version.
Quote from: Dudeman on August 29, 2014, 10:19:52 AMUm...need to stay on topic...Bionicle for Smash!!
That would actually be pretty awesome.
Quote from: MaestroUGC on August 29, 2014, 11:40:29 AMStill holding out hope for Paper Mario.
Probably not.
I wish, but I also seriously doubt it.
Who is Shulk anyway?
And why does he have a fake British accent?
And anyone else notice the E 10+ at the beginning of the trailer? Looks like someone finally knocked some sense into the ESRB.
Quote from: Dudeman on August 29, 2014, 10:19:52 AMI'd take credit for it, but plagiarism is wrong, kids. Go check out the Faber Files.
Um...need to stay on topic...Bionicle for Smash!!
Would actually buy
Lots of Smash news today--
If you buy and register both versions of Super Smash Bros. with Club Nintendo, you can get a 2-disc soundtrack album for the game.
Huzzah, a soundtrack! I'm actually happy because having a physical copy of Smash 4's OST would be really rad.
Quote from: Crazy Hand on August 29, 2014, 03:10:04 PMWho is Shulk anyway?
The main character from Xenoblade Chronicles, one of the best games ever.
Quote from: Crazy Hand on August 29, 2014, 03:10:04 PMAnd why does he have a fake British accent?
The Game was localized in Britain, so we got the same dubs in the US. Everyone in the game has british accents, even if it doesn't seem appropriate.
Quote from: Crazy Hand on August 29, 2014, 03:10:04 PMAnd why does he have a fake British accent?
That awkward moment when the actor's actually British.
With Shulk announced, I think I will finally play Xenoblade. Its been on my shelf for awhile now.
Quote from: InfinitySoul on August 31, 2014, 11:39:12 AMWith Shulk announced, I think I will finally play Xenoblade. Its been on my shelf for awhile now.
Do it. One of the best games ever.
I wish I had a copy of Xenoblade... ;_;
Quote from: Nebbles on August 31, 2014, 11:42:39 AMI wish I had a copy of Xenoblade... ;_;
If you want it for wii, buy it now. The price went up 50% in the past month and a half. Or go to gamestop.
It's a matter of finding a copy, too, nonetheless affording it. My plan was to ask for it as a Hanukkah gift...
Guyz. Did u all see the figures they made??? It's only 12 of em but I personally want the Fox figure. Go to Nintendo Facebook and see it for yourselves!!!
The Amiibo stuff? I wish they were kinda cheaper... 12.99 per figure is a bit much. Like, I wanna collect the ones I like, but I was hoping they'd release certain figures by series, like a Fire Emblem pack or whatever for a decent price to lessen the costs.
I think 12 is fair enough, well that is unless there made out of paper or something. But I agree with the series pack thing. Wish they made all Starfox series...
They're going to have amiibos of everyone in smash eventually, that's been confirmed
I think I'm going to hold out until the ones of my favorites are released
Considering how Amiibo compatibility is confirmed for games such as Mario Kart 8, I'm getting my hopes up so high for getting to drive as Meta Knight or Bowser Jr., like holy goddamn shit.
amiibo is a neat concept (albeit taken from skylanders) but i'm still not sure if i want to buy them yet or not. of course i'd like helping out nintendo but 13 dollars for a little plastic figure is a little much for me at this point.
But at least they will work with all later products. That alone makes it better than skylanders.
$13 isn't actually expensive for this sort of thing tho
true but the fact remains that i'm poor af lol
Quote from: SlowPokemon on September 01, 2014, 04:09:01 PM$13 isn't actually expensive for this sort of thing tho
Yeah, true. The Skylanders figurines here cost $20, so I'm not complaining. XD
...well to someone who just sort of wants to collect them, $13 is a bit much. Though I suppose I might as well use them if I buy 'em...
What are they actually for again? Storing your custom move sets?
Actually I don't even know what they're for. I just want to get some and put them on my desk because they're cool as ice.
Yeah, I think it's storing your movesets so you can use them if you're playing on another console at a friend's, I suppose. Pretty cool to be able to transport your skills on the go, but... figurines!!!
Amazon description:
Quote-Team up with your amiibo or play against friends in the Super Smash Bros. for Wii U game
-Customize your amiibo by adjusting their offensive and defensive capabilities
-Build your amiibo to level 50 so that you can crush even the toughest opponents
-Tap amiibo to the Wii U GamePad controller and watch your characters come to life in different games in all sorts of exciting ways
-Additional amiibo characters and compatible games are coming soon
But how do I buy these figures??? Do they sell em on Nintendo.com???
I would assume anywhere video games are sold. They will probably be near where they sell the Skylanders and Disney Infinity stuff in the Nintendo isle.
Quote from: K-NiGhT on September 01, 2014, 03:31:30 PM(albeit taken from skylanders)
Which in itself was taken from U.B Funkies, which came out a couple of years earlier.
Well that means i'll be going to Disneylworld, AGAIN!!!
Quote from: wolf on September 04, 2014, 03:44:09 AMWell that means i'll be going to Disneylworld, AGAIN!!!
what even
OMG I JUST BURST OUT LAUGHING SO LOUDLY
he has lost the ability toucan
The Kid Icarus Uprising song got a downgrade:
original
It no longer has any bass.
Hm, you're right!
You have to consider, though, that they wouldn't just copypasta the song from its original game into the new smash game. With ALL THE DATA that's already being put into this game, surely in comparison a simple bass line that (while it does make the song sound very epic in the original game) is almost unnoticeable unless you're really listening for it.
I'm not worried. I trust Sakurai.
Not that the base is gone. There is no strength in the lower range.
Actually the 3DS speakers had a lot of trouble handling the strong bass line in Uprising. That's most likely the reason they reduced the bass.
Examples:
Yeah, but it sounded great if you plugged in headphones... :P
And that's the same reason why Link Between words doesn't have a live soundtrack.
(But that didn't stop Bravely Default.)
And Kid Icarus really benefited from that orchestration.
I just like it when I can plug in headphones and it sounds better than the 3ds speakers. :P
Yea the 3DS speakers are awful, regularly crackling with just game OST, but sometimes I like to just be free of headphones D;
Just needed to post these:
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okay some of those are badly done but some of them are okay
...those all look like terrible photoshops
oooo, colors... (http://www.destructoid.com/all-smash-bros-characters-get-8-color-variants-here-are-all-samus--280609.phtml)
More alts, woo!
Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on September 05, 2014, 01:28:37 PMYea the 3DS speakers are awful, regularly crackling with just game OST, but sometimes I like to just be free of headphones D;
Which is why I like to connect my 3DS to my AV receiver when playing at home.
Quote from: Olimar12345 on September 05, 2014, 09:26:19 PMoooo, colors... (http://www.destructoid.com/all-smash-bros-characters-get-8-color-variants-here-are-all-samus--280609.phtml)
old news is old.
Please refrain from being a smartass to NSM staff, as well as people in general, mael.
Well, Dedede's got a new final smash! We don't really know what it is, but it involves bombs, so...better than the Dedede Dance!
Ooooh, a new final smash? Cool!
Omg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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(http://i59.tinypic.com/2ch9yl2.jpg)
*remembers that Skull Kid is an assist trophy*
SOOOOOO CLOSE
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=889895
You will need new 3DS to get better control scheme, cant even use circle pad :|
in other news:
god dammit nintendo you're really making it necessary to buy this stupid new 3ds aren't you
I know it's stupid! Another 3ds?! :o
Can u not use that word? I find it rude.
Anyway, I think the new 3DS is kinda neat and I'll probably end up buying it when i get the cash. Not that i'm not happy with my XL, but I think there are some great things about the new model that will warrant a purchase.
Quote from: K-NiGhT on September 08, 2014, 11:59:54 AMCan u not use that word? I find it rude.
Anyway, I think the new 3DS is kinda neat and I'll probably end up buying it when i get the cash. Not that i'm not happy with my XL, but I think there are some great things about the new model that will warrant a purchase.
Oh very sorry, I'll change it :)
OMG GUYS I'M HYPERVENTILATING!! Can't say I expected this song to make it in, but THIS is huge evidence that we're probably gonna get more!! :D
Some Famitsu scans:
http://nintendoeverything.com/super-smash-bros-for-3ds-100-page-famitsu-supplement/
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(http://nintendoeverything.com/wp-content/gallery/smash-bros-3ds-famitsu/smash-fam-24.jpg)
dat pole-dancing Palutena taunt
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(http://nintendoeverything.com/wp-content/gallery/smash-bros-3ds-famitsu/smash-fam-29.jpg)
Thought these alternate colours were neat since they reference a bunch of other FE characters. Oh yeah, it also confirms that she has Critical Hit like Marth, but that's no surprise.
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Shaymin Sky Form confirmed for N's Castle.
The pages on Samus include a picture of Samus fighting Ridley in Other M. Coincidence? ::)
Ike's Eruption is indeed blue now.
I'm having trouble figuring out Dedede's Final Smash. It looks like it involves sucking opponents in and killing them with bombs. Does anyone read Japanese?
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(http://nintendoeverything.com/wp-content/gallery/smash-bros-3ds-famitsu/smash-fam-31.jpg)
Sonic still has his "You're too slow!" taunt.
Double post for streams
http://www.twitch.tv/yushako
This guy unlocked falco and ness, but then lost to a black pit....
http://www.twitch.tv/yushako
This guy lost to the falco incoming challenger -.-
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(http://livedoor.4.blogimg.jp/amosaic/imgs/1/a/1aea159c.jpg)
List of character alt colorations.
Nintendo officially confirmed that Alph of Pikmin 3 is a character, and he'll have a spot on the character select screens despite basically being an alternate color of Olimar.
And leaks confirm stuff.
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Wario, Dr. Mario, Ness, Falco, Duck Hunt Dog, Dark Pit, Ganondorf
Top hat Hershel Mii Swordsman is going to be the closest thing I get to having Layton in the game.
It's also sad how much I bet I'll be using it.
http://www.twitch.tv/gema_yue
Jiggly confirmedddddddddddddddddd
Quote from: SlowPokemon on September 11, 2014, 05:02:23 AMNintendo officially confirmed that Alph of Pikmin 3 is a character, and he'll have a spot on the character select screens despite basically being an alternate color of Olimar.
By the way, I need to correct this: Alph is just an Olimar alt that changes his name; but you still access him by changing Olimar's appearance.
So then that makes like 48 characters...now would be the time to add two more D: c'mon ninty u can do it xD
ROB too. And Bowser Jr. with the koopalings as alts
All characters unlocked already, RIP mewtwo and snake
I think it's the same roster as the last leak +jiggly if he/she/it wasn't there before
Overall a pretty damn good roster, I'm satisfied with it. Now we just need for it to be October...
Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on September 11, 2014, 12:35:46 PMAll characters unlocked already, RIP mewtwo and snake
I think it's the same roster as the last leak +jiggly if he/she/it wasn't there before
Ya he was there before but there was no chance he wasn't gonna be in it anyway lol
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=129524882
More rumors
Quote**** it, I'm just gonna put it out there:
(And I'm not saying this to troll fans or keep the hype up or whatever.)
I have a source who has been right about previous leaks and has worked on the European localization of the game. He says he has definitely seen moving models of Dixie, Ridley, Chorus Men and Mewtwo in the game and he's still confident that these four characters can be unlocked by linking the 3DS version to the Wii U version.
Now, I know how outlandish this sounds, and being a game journalist myself I'm taking this with a grain of salt myself, but we're talking about the guy who told me about the Bowser Jr. alts immediately after the ESRB leaks and has never been wrong about other stuff as well. Plus, the whole connectivity thing makes far too much sense, if only to get fans to buy both versions. *insert itprintsmoney.gif here*
Again, I swear on my soul that I'm not trolling. Time will tell. I thought Ridley was never gonna be in, but hey.
NEW CLASSIC MODE FINAL BOSS
Meet the MASTER CORE:
He has four forms he can use, and I think he uses more of them depending on the difficulty setting: Titan, Beast, Swords, and Copy (I named them myself :P).
The last one will always be Copy. Beat it and the black particles will fly away revealing a core. It looks very similar to a smash ball and will not attack or move except to return to the center of Final Destination. Beat it and roll credits!
also major WTF, ice climbers cut WHY
and ya maelstrom that's at the tier of 'well i have this friend who said some things that were right before and he totally says its real' basically no better than 'well I heard theres supe rmario 15 for game boy!!' so I wouldn't really count on such crazy hopes.
Also the fact that they would have randomass characters like this """Chorus Men""" before highly popular ones that were cut is already sketch city
Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on September 11, 2014, 11:50:43 PMalso major WTF, ice climbers cut WHY
That's been an issue since day one. The 3DS apparently had a lot of trouble handling two characters acting as one (don't you DARE say anything about Rosaluma, the mechanics are different for them), so they were cut. I can see an Ice Climbers patch happening at some point, but maybe after the WiiU version releases.
That's a highly speculative theory I've heard, but if they seriously are cutting ice climbers because we had to get an extra version of smash that nobody really asked for and is just a cheap money tactic, that would be pretty obnoxious.
plus it would be a thx nintendo for insisting that you have no need for high end hardware then constantly cutting corners and making sacrifices in your major games :|
You are so predictable that all I can do is laugh
I only share an opinion that many at least in the circle of smash players I know share. If it makes you upset you can go to your corner and laugh as much as you want I suppose :D
I think people that don't care might have never played with people that were legitimately good with ice climbers. They were a super interesting and fun character to even just watch people play + play against. It really is a big loss.
^ A big loss, indeed. It is a real shame that they had to be excluded from this game for technical reasons. It must be embarrassing to say you couldn't include a character introduced two consoles ago on a latest gen console for hardware limitations.
To be fair though, they've never had Smash on a handheld, and they did promise that the rosters would be similar.
Quote from: From Twitch StreamPlatinum Club Nintendo Members may get picked for the demo TODAY
edit: ....and the site goes down for maintenance after heavy loads. :P
NVM, its back up.
Nintendo of America verified
Select Club Nintendo Platinum members will have received four download codes for the #SmashBros for #3DS demo. Check your emails!
8 minutes ago from Twitter Web Client
I don't understand NoA. Why would you intentionally limit the demo when the damn game is already released in other localities....?? I mean I guess it's nice platinum members are getting something besides the awful rewards from before, but that again is only because NoA is such a disappointment with outreach.
And to previous topic, I'm mostly annoyed that in their insistence on having 2 near identical versions they will end up gimping both versions of the game since they have to keep the core mechanics at a level that is compatible with the antiquated 3DS hardware. It's a design decision that doesn't make any sense imo.
It's probably to test the club nintendo server's capacity. :P
Club Nintendo has random slowdowns all the time for no reason, so I don't think it's really at a point where it should be stress tested...
Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on September 12, 2014, 10:16:44 AMIt's a design decision that doesn't make any sense imo.
it makes sense to nintendo because money
I would have been perfectly happy with a 40 roster 3ds version and 80 roster wii u one though x.x
You know club nintendo is broken when it says you have -100 coins till gold.
Heh I have three extra download codes for the demo besides my own
Amusingly enough people on /r/smashbros are offering things like steam games or **cash money** for 1 week longer on a demo
EDIT: r u shitting me
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Super-Smash-Bros-for-Nintendo-3DS-Week-Early-Demo-Code-Nintendo-3DS-2014-/151409212281?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item2340b13b79
Quote from: SlowPokemon on September 12, 2014, 11:26:49 AMHeh I have three extra download codes for the demo besides my own
I'll take one... :P
I played Dual Destinies.....
Ugh, I don't have enough coins for Platinum. I need a demo code.
If it makes you feel better the demo is absolutely bare bones and only has five characters and battlefield available.
I still want to play it really, really badly. ;_;
A friend showed me just now. It's pretty damn lame. Like slow said, there are only five players available and the stage is locked, as well as items are always on and timed battles only.
It would 'still probably answer everyone's biggest concern - where the gameplay falls between melee and brawl.
To be honest, and this is only after seven or eight fights so take it with a grain of salt, the game doesn't work very well on 3DS from first impressions. Even on the XL it looks really small.
Duck Hunt confirmed for joke character
I got the demo, and it is a bit jarring to play on a smaller screen, but other than that I'm really enjoying it.
I was watching the treehouse stream, and Robin is incredible.
By the by... someone's uploaded the ssb4 music onto youtube!
Here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0YN3mEp0MJPH9AsLfRf0LlYkdqB7WprK (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0YN3mEp0MJPH9AsLfRf0LlYkdqB7WprK)
Quote from: Nebbles on September 12, 2014, 05:33:30 PMBy the by... someone's uploaded the ssb4 music onto youtube!
Here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0YN3mEp0MJPH9AsLfRf0LlYkdqB7WprK (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0YN3mEp0MJPH9AsLfRf0LlYkdqB7WprK)
Awesome!
Did not expect a pseudo-metal remix of Ballad of the Goddess
There are some really good remixes and some great tracks that never needed remixing. I mean, how could you remix a Xenoblade song, or Id ~ Purpose?
And, it sadly seems that "Live and Learn" and "Sonic Heros" are still intact....
THEY MADE A NEARLY 1 MINUTE LONG REMIX OF THE TINY FIVE SECOND INTRO FANFARE OF PAC-MAN??? GREATEST THING
But yeah this remix of "Try, Try Again" is horrible,,,, I wish they would have kept the original track honestly
I haven't played melee, but this is epic.
Apparently it was done by Nobuko Toda, known for her work in the Metal Gear series.
^This. I find it amazing the amount of work that went into this arrangement alone. I doubt we'll be seeing a more awesome song in the entire soundtrack.
Quote from: Olimar12345 on September 12, 2014, 03:41:13 PMA friend showed me just now. It's pretty damn lame. Like slow said, there are only five players available and the stage is locked, as well as items are always on and timed battles only.
You can turn all items off by switching to the Omega Form of Battlefield (press X during the stage select).
But yeah, demo's really limited, so you're not missing much. Worst part's the timed-only matches for me. But otherwise, it's good to at least get a feel for the physics and controls such if you're hesitant on purchasing, and it's neat that there's unlimited uses at least.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on September 12, 2014, 06:11:31 PMTHEY MADE A NEARLY 1 MINUTE LONG REMIX OF THE TINY FIVE SECOND INTRO FANFARE OF PAC-MAN??? GREATEST THING
But yeah this remix of "Try, Try Again" is horrible,,,, I wish they would have kept the original track honestly
The Try, Try Again is awful and it upsets me greatly.
Hey guys, I have an extra code available right now that I got from someone. Seeing as a few people may want it I hope to give everyone an equal chance to get it somehow. I'm thinking of just using RNG for people who say they want it. Send me a pm if you want a chance to be drawn and I'll let the pms come in until 12pm EST tomorrow. Good luck!
Quote from: Wrydryn on September 12, 2014, 09:07:12 PMHey guys, I have an extra code available right now that I got from someone. Seeing as a few people may want it I hope to give everyone an equal chance to get it somehow. I'm thinking of just using RNG for people who say they want it. Send me a pm if you want a chance to be drawn and I'll let the pms come in until 12pm EST tomorrow. Good luck!
what the crap you still live here?
Although I'm not nearly as active as I one was I lurk from time to time.
Final destination is so bad when compared to the melee remix.
I dunno, I like that one better. :/
(http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2014/09/ssbdate.jpg)
...is that game release date true? o_o
Quote from: Nebbles on September 13, 2014, 03:41:21 PM...is that game release date true? o_o
It appears so. After all, it's not on a tuesday. :P
WTF Fred Meyer.
Still, I've heard nothing of an actual release date yet.
Quote from: Nebbles on September 13, 2014, 03:56:50 PMStill, I've heard nothing of an actual release date yet.
Hence the definition of a leak.
...good point. Well, if this is true, it comes out on the same day as ORAS. Dang.
There's no way they'll release those games against one another. There's no chance that date is real.
^ Didn't realize that.
Probably right there.
I can't envision it happening. Didn't they also say it'd release holidays 2014? Wouldn't a December date make more sense...?
Yeah official time frame is holiday 2014, but holiday could just as easily refer to November (i.e., Super Mario 3D World last year, Super Mario 3D Land a couple years before that, etc.). The Pokemon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire thing is what makes me think it's not an accurate date.
More music:
This is how you make a remix:
True. These are very big games coming out, and pitting them against each other... I dunno.
Also, Smash Wii U has no release date, right? So how would we have a North American one?
Just wanted to post these in case anyone was curious.
Veteran Final Smash changes
Luigi: Uses the Poltergust 3000 to suck up opponents in random directions, then shoot them out.
Peach: Same Final Smash, but now only spawns three giant peaches behind her. It still puts enemies to sleep.
DK: Same Final Smash, but now the energy goes out in a circle instead of two rotating bars.
Zero Suit Samus: Jumps into Samus' Gunship and fires lasers at opponents from the foreground. Basically replaces Snake's Final Smash.
Pit: Uses the Three Sacred Treasures, which first fires an assortment of smaller and larger energy arrows before firing lasers down from the heavens.
Kirby: Uses the Ultra Sword. Anyone caught in its initial swing will be sliced into oblivion.
Dedede: First sucks opponents towards him, then swings his jet-powered hammer into them three times before throwing an enormous bomb at them and blowing them sky high.
Pikachu: Same Final Smash, but now there is a small pink/purple spark that flies ahead of you, showing which way you're aiming.
Charizard: Mega Evolves into Mega Charizard X. Similar to the Yoshi Dragon, using special attack will use Fire Blast (shoots a fire ball that explodes on contact, complete with *-shaped fire), and using standard attack will spin you into opponents (aimable in 8 directions).
Lucario: Mega Evolves into Mega Lucario. Aura power is maxed out.
R.O.B.: Fires an enormous continuous laser straight ahead of him, which splits into four smaller lasers at a certain distance.
Ness: Same Final Smash, but now PK Starstorm fires in a constant downward stream. It can be aimed like Lucario's old Final Smash.
Dr. Mario (technically a veteran): Mario Finale, but with Megavitamins.
Newcomer Final Smashes
Rosalina: Creates a power star above her that shoots out small star-shaped projectiles in all directions.
Bowser Jr.: Transforms into Shadow Mario and uses the Paintbrush to paint an X over the screen. Characters that touch the X will take damage and knockback.
Palutena: Uses Black Hole to trap opponents, then uses Mega Laser to finish them off.
Robin: Calls in Chrom to unleash a dual attack in the air, before launching the opponent downwards. Compare to Ike's Final Smash.
Little Mac: Transforms into Giga Mac, greatly increasing strength, speed, and size.
Greninja: Flips a mat in front of him. If an opponent is caught, they will be launched into the air and slashed repeatedly by Greninja, before being launched downward. Compare to Ike's Final Smash.
Duck Hunt: Calls a flock of ducks in front of him. If an opponent is hit, they will be launched into a scene of the Wild Gunman enemies firing at the Hogan's Alley enemies, with the opponent caught in the crossfire. They will then be launched. Compare to Capt. Falcon's Final Smash.
Villager: Calls in Tom, Timmy, and Tommy Nook to build a house around the opponent. Upon completion, the house will explode, sending its occupant flying.
Wii Fit Trainer: Shoots a volley of Wii Fit Trainer holograms out in front of her/him.
Dark Pit: Uses his staff to fire a laser out straight in front of him. Anyone caught in it will be launched. Compare to the Light Arrows.
Lucina: Critical Hit. Marth's Final Smash.
Shulk: Calls in Riki and Dunban to unleash a team attack on an opponent. The opponent will then be launched.
Pacman: Eats two power pellets to turn into a giant 2D version of himself that controls like the original Pacman game. Any characters that are eaten will turn into a pair of eyes and be launched.
Mega Man: Uses the Black Hole weapon from MM9. Anyone caught in the hole will be sucked into a digital world where Mega Man, X, MegaMan.EXE, Mega Man Volnutt, and Star Force Mega Man will fire lasers at the opponent simultaneously. The opponent will then be launched.
Mii Fighter: Punches the opponent into the air and unleashes a volley of punches and kicks before launching the opponent downward. Compare to Ike's Final Smash.
Mii Swordsman: Fires a volley of crescent-shaped waves in front of it from its sword.
Mii Gunner: Fires three continuous lasers out in front of it. It can be angled slightly.
Quote from: Dudeman on September 13, 2014, 06:34:48 PMSpoiler
Greninja: Flips a mat in front of him. If an opponent is caught, they will be launched into the air and slashed repeatedly by Greninja, before being launched downward. Compare to Ike's Final Smash.
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So basically Mat Block + Night Slash?
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on September 13, 2014, 08:43:11 PMSpoiler
So basically Mat Block + Night Slash?
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That's the weird part. The activation is definitely Mat Block, but the official name of the move (via Famitsu) is "Mysterious Ninja," and not Night Slash. Not sure if original or slip-up...
And Dude is the winrar of the code! Be sure to let us know what you think about the demo!
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Jk it's rly fun
Last year they released Link Between Worlds, Super Mario 3D World and Mario Party Island Tour on the same day, November 22th.
yo (http://kotaku.com/super-smash-bros-is-wrecking-some-peoples-3ds-handheld-1634549128?utm_campaign=Socialflow_Kotaku_Facebook&utm_source=Kotaku_Facebook&utm_medium=Socialflow)
In *very worried* because I got that impression after spending 40 minutes with the demo
Funny, it's exactly the opposite for me. :P I found it much better than what I saw in the livestream. The 60 fps really helps.
No like did you read the article
??? What did I miss now?
wtf maelstrom you didn't even read the article slow posted a link to. It has nothing to do with the fps.
The article is about people's circle pads breaking off their 3ds because of Smash.
I no longer want to get a 3DS
...... I didn't even realize it was a hyperlink. :-[
But in other news, players using peach's down special will result in a 24 hour ban from online play.
That's due to a bug that considers Peach's turnips as items. The "For Glory" mode doesn't allow the use of items, and so the game thinks you're cheating if you use Down+B at the start of a match. I haven't read anywhere if it is if you use the move at all during a match, or just at the start.
So, what about the Villager's up spike? That uses turnips, would that count?
Quote from: Nebbles on September 14, 2014, 11:36:12 AMSo, what about the Villager's up spike? That uses turnips, would that count?
Peach is the only one registering.
Quote from: Nebbles on September 14, 2014, 11:36:12 AMSo, what about the Villager's up spike? That uses turnips, would that count?
Well, Peach's turnips are actually thrown like items, whereas the Villager's are just part of his model during an attack. It could also be that if Peach still has the chance to pull up items instead of turnips like in past games, the game could still be reading that chance and registering her Down-B as an attempt to use an item.
^Pretty much, that's the current theory about the glitch.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on September 14, 2014, 06:01:37 AMyo (http://kotaku.com/super-smash-bros-is-wrecking-some-peoples-3ds-handheld-1634549128?utm_campaign=Socialflow_Kotaku_Facebook&utm_source=Kotaku_Facebook&utm_medium=Socialflow)
In *very worried* because I got that impression after spending 40 minutes with the demo
Quote from: Ganonthegreat1I think people misunderstand the meaning of the word "smash" in this context.
Yeah, people just don't look after their stuff well. When I play Brawl, I'm as relaxed with my controls as if I was asleep! :P
Also, you lucky sods. I can't download the demo because external non-laptop devices can't connect to the Uni internet. I'm dying from not being able to play it!! D:
Quote from: fingerz on September 14, 2014, 09:52:44 PMAlso, you lucky sods. I can't download the demo because external non-laptop devices can't connect to the Uni internet. I'm dying from not being able to play it!! D:
AHHHHHHHH!!!!
SOMEONE WHO EXPERIENCES MY PAAAAAAIN!!!!!!
We can both fill the world with our tears... :'(
I think I can convince my IT department to allow for ninty devices to connect lol just a matter of making an appointment
You should be able to bridge the wifi connection to an ethernet port (or usb to ethernet adapter) and then connect that to your own router. http://www.countrymilewifi.com/how-to-share-computers-wifi-with-ethernet-devices.aspx
Alternatively, you might be able to buy one of the wireless dongles usually used to connect desktops to wifi, since some of them work as a rudimentary access point.
Either way, you should get around the device approval process since you would still be directly connecting to the network with your main PC, everything else would just be riding off of that connection.
Also your universities have shit IT departments for not being able to figure how to expand their policies :P
Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on September 15, 2014, 08:49:08 AMYou should be able to bridge the wifi connection to an ethernet port (or usb to ethernet adapter) and then connect that to your own router. http://www.countrymilewifi.com/how-to-share-computers-wifi-with-ethernet-devices.aspx
Alternatively, you might be able to buy one of the wireless dongles usually used to connect desktops to wifi, since some of them work as a rudimentary access point.
Either way, you should get around the device approval process since you would still be directly connecting to the network with your main PC, everything else would just be riding off of that connection.
Also your universities have shit IT departments for not being able to figure how to expand their policies :P
Okay, I'm not having THOSE kinds of problems. Essentially, my university wifi requires two login codes whereas the 3DS only asks for one.
You mean the WiFi code and another code that comes up when you need to use the web browser? If that's the case, try your 3DS Internet Browser to insert the second code, online play should work after you've signed your 3DS to both the WiFi and the webpage.
Quote from: Waddle Bro on September 15, 2014, 10:39:37 AMYou mean the WiFi code and another code that comes up when you need to use the web browser? If that's the case, try your 3DS Internet Browser to insert the second code, online play should work after you've signed your 3DS to both the WiFi and the webpage.
No, that's not the case either. My university wifi doesn't hve a web page to need to sign into, you have two input boxes, one requires your username, and the other your pass code. The 3DS, upon selecting a wifi network, only asks for one password, and won't even accept my username as a password, but it still won't connect. I'm just out of luck until October 3rd, and I'm content with that.
Yah, my solution would bypass that problem since you're just riding off of the connection your laptop gets. I'm guessing your university is using WPA-Enterprise then, in which case that's a bummer lol. Do they not provide ethernet to your room? ._.
Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on September 15, 2014, 12:44:59 PMYah, my solution would bypass that problem since you're just riding off of the connection your laptop gets. I'm guessing your university is using WPA-Enterprise then, in which case that's a bummer lol. Do they not provide ethernet to your room? ._.
The only thing I understood about this was Ethernet, which is a whole 'nother problem in itself.
I arrived in my dorm three days before check in for a pre-orientation retreat, and so I just threw my stuff on a side before I left for three days. When I came back, and after my family had already left, my roommate and I discovered that my side of the room doesn't have an ethernet port, only a telephone port. I'm looking into talking to someone in the tech department to see if there isn't a way I can change that, or what not.
There are other ethernet ports in the dorm, though, I'm fairly sure. I've just never used ethernet before, so...
...Ignore everything I've just said. While sure, that's a problem, I just discovered an easy remedy to my 3DS problem. I have an iphone. And an iPhone can create a personal hotspot with it's own singular password. I'm going to test that out, and with hopefully success, I will be able to download the demo with the code Shadowkirby gave me.
Doublepost because, well, you'll see.
My plan worked. Got my phone to connect my 3DS to wifi. It's been a trek for the past few days, but then shadowkirby told me just a few minutes ago that because he assumed I wasn't able to connect to wifi (which I also believed, but I also didn't give up so quickly), he gave the code to somebody else.
So, to end this melodramatic 3DS internet issue, if someone on here has a demo code that they haven't given out yet and would like to make a college kid regret every hour he plays it instead of doing his homework, this one will gladly take it off your hands. Thank you. I could always just wait until the regular demo release, as well. Ain't nobody got time fo' dat, tho.
Basically, I'm saying you can make your own hotspot, but instead of using your phone's internet (and data plan), you would use the internet from your laptop :B
It would require your own router of course, but if you're there for a year and want to regularly use wireless on devices that can't connect to the school network it could be worth it ;) Assuming you don't have an unlimited data plan of course o:
You could also go the super easy route and buy a longass ethernet cable and switch if required so you can hook up your own router that way :P I know that we have some dorms with only a single port per room..
My university doesn't allow us to bring our own routers ._.
Be sneaky
Hahaha! That could be an option, but then again, I could just wait a couple of weeks 'til I catch up with a friend of mine and get it then. Or I could just wait 'til I get the game. XD
All right, it's finally been settled: Sakurai has revealed in an interview with Famitsu that the Ice Climbers were cut due to 3DS system limitations. He even mentions that they worked on the WiiU version just fine. Also, the lack of Ice Climber games in the last, oh, 30 YEARS put them towards the bottom of the list in terms of priority.
I swear, if ANYONE uses the Rosaluma argument to say they should be in, I'm gonna...
It wasn't really that their franchise was or wasn't popular (just because Kid Icarus had some reboot new game doesn't mean it's suddenly a popular franchise... :P), but more that they were popular characters *in Smash* since the N64 game, and people are understandably miffed that they cut a longstanding choice.
Also sup all those 'gameplay over grafphix' kids. Nintendo pls hire outside talent to fix your hardware and online divisons
Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on September 16, 2014, 08:59:48 PMthey were popular characters *in Smash* since the N64 game
The Ice Climbers weren't in the 64 version. They were introduced in melee.
$20 says that a "Project M"-like mod will be produced that allows the Wii U version to use Ice Climbers.
If they made Mewtwo and Roy playable for Brawl, who's to say that they can't do the same thing for the Wii U version? I can see it now. The 3DS is highly unlikely to get such a mod, which I don't think too many people would be upset about.
Quote from: Olimar12345 on September 16, 2014, 09:06:09 PMThe Ice Climbers weren't in the 64 version. They were introduced in melee.
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If you're seriously that worked up about ice climbers play melee or brawl lmfao
im using the rosaluma argument to say that they should be in
Quote from: Yugi on September 16, 2014, 10:20:57 PMim using the rosaluma argument to say that they should be in
*gunshot*
In all seriousness, it's less about having two characters work as one and more about four-player online Ice Climber-only matches. Ridiculous? Yes, but enough to convince Sakurai not to include them.
It's not Ice Climbers that I'm personally annoyed at, (if you read my comment you would understand that, but I know that's hard for you) it's the concept that they are skimping on the content of both games because they have to fit to the limitations of an outdated portable. Nintendo is just being their same old sloppy self :|
Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on September 17, 2014, 01:35:49 AMIt's not Ice Climbers that I'm personally annoyed at, (if you read my comment you would understand that, but I know that's hard for you) it's the concept that they are skimping on the content of both games because they have to fit to the limitations of an outdated portable. Nintendo is just being their same old sloppy self :|
I always knew the 3DS version was going to hold down the Wii U version because of the hardware limitations, so no surprise here. If you want a Smash game in conditions, don't make it portable, period.
The fact that you think Nintendo is sloppy shows that I'm not dealing with a rational person here tho
Quote from: SlowPokemon on September 17, 2014, 05:32:27 AMThe fact that you think Nintendo is sloppy shows that I'm not dealing with a rational person here tho
^
Kefka: omg why no ice climber so dumb
Everyone else: 3ds duh
Kefka: *Whining about Nintendo being sloppy*
Slow: omfg how dare you complain about Nintendo, the creator of orgasm making games??????????? I jizz like every day to them!!!!
Mael: what he said!
I jizz every single day to nintendo games
Spoiler
although something you told me about wario doesn't give you room to make fun of me
Quote from: Dude link=topic=5711.msg255216#msg255216Kefka: *Whining about Nintendo being sloppy*
Slow: omfg how dare you complain about Nintendo, the creator of orgasm making games??????????? I jizz like every day to them!!!!
Mael: what he said!
kefka conversations in a nutshell
Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on September 17, 2014, 01:35:49 AMIt's not Ice Climbers that I'm personally annoyed at, (if you read my comment you would understand that, but I know that's hard for you) it's the concept that they are skimping on the content of both games because they have to fit to the limitations of an outdated portable. Nintendo is just being their same old sloppy self :|
I'm sure Sakurai was too far down the track to redesign everything for a new console... Besides, imagine how testy people would've been if he said they were going to delay it a further 6 months for a new console. I wouldn't mind, but a lot of people would be rather unhappy.
Somebody has to balance out the ilu sakurai ilu nintendo circlejerk ;)
Quote from: fingerz on September 17, 2014, 03:11:23 PMI'm sure Sakurai was too far down the track to redesign everything for a new console... Besides, imagine how testy people would've been if he said they were going to delay it a further 6 months for a new console. I wouldn't mind, but a lot of people would be rather unhappy.
Heh, how many times have other big Nintendo titles had huge delays... :P
But seriously I don't get why they insisted on identical versions for both platforms. That might be slightly viable for the Vita or something but cmaaan
In other news I face the difficult decision of Amazon release date delivery (which is subject to atrocious university mail processing) vs retail preorder and having to take a 30min bus to pick it up
The 30 minute bus ride sounds like it'd work better in the long run. And hey, on the bus ride back, you can play Smash!
Yea, I'll just have to predict how lazy I'm going to be, and whether I want to give my money to Best Buy or Gamestop ~.~
Well, I hope getting the game is an easy process for you, then. I pre-ordered my copy ages ago, so just waiting for release date is the hard part.
So who's going to unlock all the characters here first?
I hope I can... I wanna unlock everyone, and then get all of the trophies I can, especially because I heard there's a Lon'qu trophy and he is my husband so I need a trophy of him (and the other fire emblem ones, of course).
Yup, I will be. I'm planning to test out every character one after the other and become adept at using all of their moves. I've never been one to grab or dodge because the controls for the Wii were so shitty. Thankfully the 3DS one looks like it'll be easier to use. :)
Quote from: fingerz on September 18, 2014, 11:17:48 PMI've never been one to grab or dodge because the controls for the Wii were so shitty. Thankfully the 3DS one looks like it'll be easier to use. :)
Did you not use the GCN controller or something? If anything, I feel the opposite o_O
Woo, demo
And yea, I can see it being awful if you didn't have access to any GCN controllers :P
If the Wii U game isn't just a slightly enhanced port from the 3DS then I'll get the GCN controller bundle probably.
Downloading the demo as we speak, but it's gonna take hella long. Good thing I'm all done with classes already! Happy Friday for me!
Is fun, circlepad sucks compared to actual stick analog stick as expected, so slippery
Yeah, I'm hoping to maybe get comfortable with it as I play the demo.
took about 30 minutes with my shitty 3G hotspot set up, but if it gets the job done, it's worth it.
I hope you know what your data plan is, because overage fees are not fun :P
His data plan is 6.
I've been playing the demo a bit and I found that I have more fun playing against one opponent on final destination mode.
What's wrong with me?
Yea, with the mode you're restricted to at least I enjoy it more with a 1v1 or 3 player free for all at most. 4 people is too much for 2 minute lol
They were right about X/Y as jump being counter-intuitive... I keep jumping when I want to smash people... O.o
Can't u just use up on the Circle Pad?
Depends if there's an alternate way to smash (like the c-stick on the gamecube controller.) Using buttons to jump gives you much more options in the air.
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Lucina had a lot of thought and effort put into her inclusion
http://youtu.be/nXSLNJ696bU?t=12s
rip in peace
Rest in peace in peace?
Also I still haven't downloaded the demo
Am I missing out or what
Quote from: Roz~ on September 23, 2014, 10:33:28 PMAlso I still haven't downloaded the demo
Am I missing out or what
I'm having fun with it. I play for like 30 min to an hour almost every day, just building up my skills.
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Is that real? O.o
No. It's just a really clever joke.
Just realized I can download the demo now since I'm home for the weekend. HYPE
Played the demo. Megaman is such a disappointment, he could've been so much more fun. He's got no flow, no decent attacks that aren't ranged, and no good knockouts. Terrible. Link has definitely been buffed, especially his Up B, so now his recovery is quite a bit better. He's completely OP in the demo but I suspect he'll get bumped back to mid-tier when the full game is available. Villager is pretty fun, but Pikachu is definitely my favorite from the demo. His back air is fantastic, great for combos, and he's just a whole lot of fun to play. And I never been a huge pikachu fan in the other games.
Pikachu is my favorite of the five too, but Mega Man becomes better the more you use him from what I hear.
I heard Mega Man has a pretty decent aerial game, but that's it? Kind of sad, considering having him Smash 4 was really hyped.
I'm definitely maining mario in the demo. I can beat any other character on level 9 with him right now. I've gotten good with link up to level 7, and Pikachu around that area as well. don't really care for megaman or villager.
So far, I like link the most. His attacks actually seem powerful. But mario is definitely much stronger than before.
I love playing as Villager, super fun once you get the hang of using his moves. I love that Link got the buffs he deserves, and Mario is really, really good.
From what I've heard, Mega Man has a ridiculously steep learning curve, but can dominate if played right. Here's a good example, versus Sheik, who apparently will be in the very top tiers when the metagame solidifies (skip to 9:36):
Dang, I love it when people figure out how to dominate with characters like megaman. But the playstyle required to play him well is something I just can't do.
Yeah, neither of the newcomers really seem to fit my playstyle. We'll see what the other characters bring on Friday!
By the way has anyone noticed that you can pretty much air dodge infinitely without hardly any punishment? I find it quite annoying when attempting to meteor smash.
The Villager is a really neat character I think.
I agree, but I don't know if I'll play him very often.
Mega Man is just weird as fuck, and I just haven't liked playing Villager much so I haven't tried. I don't normally play any of the other 3 but I've been having fun playing as Pikachu at least.
My Mario skills are off the hook rn
Ok, so I've decided that the aerial game is completely broken, since you can pretty much air dodge infinitely with literally 1 punishment frame.
And thus Pm will remain the go to for competitive play
I wish they would've figured out that people didn't like that about the game lol
(http://images.nintendolife.com/news/2014/09/weirdness_this_super_smash_bros_for_nintendo_3ds_bug_is_a_big_problem/attachment/0/630x.jpg) :o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bz2PlONwxkA
SWAG
If they remove that I'm not buying it
Hahahahahaha what.
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on September 29, 2014, 01:04:01 PMIf they remove that I'm not buying it
Not sure how Nintendo works, but usually when a bug that doesn't hinder the player's experience is found near the end of the project it's usually not fixed. So hopefully it'll still be in the game.
Goin to walmart tonight and picking up my copy xD
Preordered it yesterday, and it's getting here tomorrow from amazon, along with Professor Layton vs Phoenix Wright.
Getting it tomorrow afternoon!! I can't wait!
As much as I would love to walk downtown to pick up my copy tomorrow, I've decided to refrain from temptation until I finish my essay for English, which I have put off for 2 weeks. It'll be my own little present.
Bad, bad Kman.
I guess I might get it tomorrow. I'm not terribly excited for it or anything but I think it will be interesting.
Quote from: maelstrom. on October 02, 2014, 12:48:33 PMProfessor Layton vs Phoenix Wright.
Ooooh have fun with that. It's both the weakest Professor Layton and the weakest Ace Attorney, but it's still a really enjoyable game with a lot of great stuff going on. If you like what you see there you should try the others in the Layton series.
I'm literally sitting at Walmart waiting for a half hour #FirstInLine
Lol, I'm at a gamestop midnight release chillin with the gamer community that I didn't know existed. Also it's pretty efficient here. If you haven't already, you pay for it when you get there, then at midnight they just hand you a copy.
Oddly enough, I'm not that excited for it. I'm actually playing pokemon, haha.
Happy Smash day, all! I can't wait to see you all on the battlefield (or whatever stage we may choose).
Graaaaah 10 minutes I cant
I happened across some amazon bux so I'll get it in the mail tomorrow. Have to pick it up from the housing desk though and I'll be out tomorrow night mayyyyybe rather late so I probably wont get my hands on it until saturday :P
So after about four hours of play, I've decided that the controls are gonna take a lot more getting used to than I originally thought.
On a related note, Greninja seems to handle very well with said controls, and is so far one of my favorite characters.
Playing Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS. Allow me to say that this game is pretty fun, until you unlock Bowser Jr. Then it becomes absolutely hella. (For those of you who want him early, beat classic mode on 7.0 intensity with Bowser!)
I need to still use Bowser Jr., but man, playing as Robin feels so right.
I'm sticking with mah boy Lucario
Rosalina is actually my favorite character. She's utterly fantastic.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on October 04, 2014, 02:41:27 PMRosalina is actually my favorite character. She's utterly fantastic.
yeah if you manage to get her final smash and throw the opponent into the star it's pretty much over.
and i still cant find my 3ds anywhere
you guys are making me jelly :c
Quote from: K-NiGhT on October 04, 2014, 02:43:35 PMyeah if you manage to get her final smash and throw the opponent into the star it's pretty much over.
Oh I've only gotten her final smash once. If you use her and actually fight other people she's phenomenal.
I got a little lost using her lol. Using Luma alongside her was too much for me for some reason.
I'd recommend to keep trying because I don't know if you'll ever use anyone else once you figure it out xD
ugh, they made Cpt. Falcon's hit box for his knee smaller. I KNEED THE KNEE
Quote from: SlowPokemon on October 04, 2014, 03:35:55 PMI'd recommend to keep trying because I don't know if you'll ever use anyone else once you figure it out xD
idk, Lucario really does wonders for me. I love how they made all his moves buff with the damage aura, so it's really a lot easier to keep him on stage with extremespeed
Quote from: SlowPokemon on October 04, 2014, 03:35:55 PMI'd recommend to keep trying because I don't know if you'll ever use anyone else once you figure it out xD
except for LITTLE MAC
I absolutely hate Little Mac. He's fantastic on the ground but as soon as you get trapped in some form of air juggling, you're screwed.
Quote from: K-NiGhT on October 04, 2014, 04:46:53 PMI absolutely hate Little Mac. He's fantastic on the ground but as soon as you get trapped in some form of air juggling, you're screwed.
Yep. He's great against certain opponents, and not against others. Makes me wonder how tournaments will play out...
Quote from: K-NiGhT on October 04, 2014, 04:46:53 PMHe's fantastic on the ground but as soon as you get trapped in some form of air juggling, you're screwed.
Well if he's in the air you're not playing him properly.
Is it just me, or is Luigi more of a joke character than duck hunt dog?
The penguin taunt slays me
Quote from: maelstrom. on October 04, 2014, 07:34:05 PMIs it just me, or is Luigi more of a joke character than duck hunt dog?
Luigi has always been a joke character, and that is why he is great
Yoooooo finally unlocked all the characters xD I could have done it faster if I was just grinding Smash battles, but I did Classic Mode about twelve or thirteen times so it ended up taking me a while. My play time is 10:44 which is kind of scary for the first weekend of a fighting game but eh.
I ended up grinding like 40+ matches with Rosalina at the end just to unlock Jigglypuff -.-' so I haven't used it very much yet. Rosalina is still my favorite character at this point, with Luigi, Jigglypuff, Bowser Jr., and Bowser behind her in roughly that order.
idk what the alternate requirement for Jigglypuff is, but it's definitely not beat classic like 25 times or whatever that I saw once, cause I got her as my third or fourth character after no more than 20 vs and 5 classic o.O
I think all I have left now is ROB or something
I'm not sure what else you need for jigglypuff. One place says you need to get at least 30 equipment and another says you need to beat classic on infernal. I still need to unlock half the characters, but I have an english paper to write..... :(
You do need at least 30 equipment pieces, then it's just up to luck if she appears after that.
I got all the characters by just rushing through and saying "screw the requirements I'll get them when they want to show up and get they ass beat"
Also apparently there's a second challenge page so that's neat I guess
Yeeep, gotta get working on those other challenges.
I unlocked all the characters in like 3 hours lol
One challenge left on the first page rn. Iirc it's something like get 3 costumes???
Quote from: Dude on October 05, 2014, 06:38:45 PMOne challenge left on the first page rn. Iirc it's something like get 3 costumes???
Same with me. I've had two since friday, but I don't know how to get another.
Smash Run, no matter how painful it is, showers you in items so you have to do it for dem challenges :x
Little mac is my new favorite (Robin being a close second).
Quote from: K-NiGhT on October 04, 2014, 04:46:53 PMI absolutely hate Little Mac. He's fantastic on the ground but as soon as you get trapped in some form of air juggling, you're screwed.
Quote from: Yugi on October 04, 2014, 06:17:52 PMWell if he's in the air you're not playing him properly.
^^ this
I predict little mac's gonna be at least above average in tier, if not higher up. He's suuuper OP against AI opponents (fully charged B works far too frequently), but even against decent players, his counter helps avoid air juggling, and his side B is both very spammable and decent for recovery.
Character comments aside, I love this game, and have gotten so little done over the weekend because of it. I'm almost done with the second page of challenges...
Zero suit samus is really, really op. :P
In other news, my circle pad is dying. :(
Game came in the mail today, silly math homework is probably gonna keep me from it though.
DO NOT play it if you've got something to do. Seriously, it's like the strongest magnet in the world! It keeps you GLUED to the screen!
Me in the morning just after getting it: "I really shouldn't go on it just yet. If I do, the whole day will be gone." And yeah, I just wanted to check it out and next thing you know it's 2:00 AM the next day. XDDDD
Smash sucks away time so fast. I can't play it as much as I want to during the week because of school...
I should be going to bed, but I'm gonna be stupid and not heed the warnings tp try out a few matches.
The online is really disappointing to me, so many errors before you even get a match and then the lag is awful. Based on some people's troubleshooting (and packet sniffing) it seems like it might be something Nintendo can actually fix, but I'm not holding my breath.. It's at least fun to play single player matches, however even the lv9 cpu are pretty terrible in this game for some reason so practice is sort of hard. I haven't had the chance to try any local multiplayer yet so I can't say anything about it personally, but many of my friends that have tried it say it stutters which is ehhh >.>
EDIT: An unrelated note
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My win rate in for glory mode is 0%
Go me.
I played one Internet match and it was horribly laggy even though everyone was US based, does anyone else have that issue? I'm going to avoid it for a while.
In the meantime, the StreetPass feature is surprisingly fun and it's a good way to make me start up the game.
I enjoy the StreetPass feature a lot actually. Lots of fun.
I was sitting around 60% the other day but now I've tanked to around 8%. The lag is killing me :/
And I unlocked jigglypuff before getting off the first achievement board. -_-
Hahaha! Good job! I've been trying out all the different characters and mastering their moves. The only bad thing about that is that 'newcomers' appear when I've got an unfamiliar character... Got my ass kicked, but then I just came back as Ike and they were dead before they even knew what came at 'em. :P
Wait, Ike's your main? I like him, but he's just too slow. Stay as far away from sheik and zero suit samus matches as much as possible.
https://gfycat.com/FlickeringResponsibleGalapagosalbatross
Little Mac is the best character, despite whatever anyone else says.
Yah, Ike's my main. I used him all the time in Brawl, so I'm pretty good with him. And yeah, I know what you mean... Fast characters are a bitch to take down with him.
Just versed a couple of random guys at Uni and thought I'd try out Ike's counter move, seeing as I never used it back in Brawl. I had the satisfaction of returning Ganondorf's super punch at double the damage and see him disappear from the screen. I think I'll use that move more now. :P
So just out of curiosity, what does everyone else main? Right now i'm kinda between Lucario and Mii Brawler. Fox just doesn't seem to be doing it for me anymore.
I main Rosalina & Luma.
I'm not sure yet. I like a bunch of characters and haven't taken the time to figure out Rosalina.
So I've decided to opt out of getting the 3DS version entirely. I don't do much gaming on the go anymore as it is anyway, and having been unable to get a copy (mainly due to laziness as I don't want to download it), the demo itself wasn't enough to sell me on the 3DS experience.
I'll just wait a month and a half for the Wii U version. Good thing I have time off from school and work for Thanksgiving to Smash it up.
Not a bad move considering what you just said. The 3DS one is fabulous, but I almost see it as a game you can play while waiting for the Wii U one to come out. The fancy graphics and decent multiplayer without lag will win me over, for sure. :P
The only reason I got the 3DS one is because of the soundtrack offer from Club Nintendo tbh. It's worth paying the money for both games to get a soundtrack CD for me.
I agree. Man, am I looking forward to that soundtrack!
Although, now that I think of it, do you think it'll have every song from both games on the CDs? That's A LOT of songs... Like, I'm sure there'll be way more than Brawl if each game pretty much has an individual soundtrack.
Quote from: fingerz on October 08, 2014, 02:38:42 PMAlthough, now that I think of it, do you think it'll have every song from both games on the CDs? That's A LOT of songs... Like, I'm sure there'll be way more than Brawl if each game pretty much has an individual soundtrack.
No. It says "Selections" on the description.
Thought so. I guess I'll just have to find the rest of the soundtrack elsewhere. ;)
Actually, has anyone played around with the character voices in Sound Test? I literally could spend all day with those. Some of them are hilarious, especially when repetitively pressing the A button. :P Also, does anyone know why Marth is the only character who speaks Japanese? Every other talking character is in English but him... Weird. O.o
Well, that version of Marth hasn't been in any localized games. After all, we've only got 5/12 games localized. :P
And I finally figured it out. Lucina feels perfect.
Whoa dude, I don't know what you're doing with Lucina, but no need to tell us... O.o
I kid, I kid! What is the actual difference between her and Marth?
Quote from: fingerz on October 08, 2014, 09:44:17 PMWhoa dude, I don't know what you're doing with Lucina, but no need to tell us... O.o
I kid, I kid! What is the actual difference between her and Marth?
She does more damage across the whole blade, as opposed to marth, who can only do strong damage at the tip of his sword.
And she seems to move a little faster, and her run animation is so low, she can run under certain projectiles.
I am maining Captain Falcon and I don't think I will ever switch. The style is irresistible. Taunt limit in For Glory is straight up fascism though, I need my SHOW ME YA SHOW ME YA SHOW ME YA SHOW ME YA MOVES
Quote from: fingerz on October 08, 2014, 09:44:17 PMWhoa dude, I don't know what you're doing with Lucina, but no need to tell us... O.o
Gross
them australians though
Quote from: Yugi on October 08, 2014, 10:59:23 PMShe does more damage across the whole blade, as opposed to marth, who can only do strong damage at the tip of his sword.
So babies first marth? Half the reason why marth is so good is because of how gay he is when spaced properly. (Shush now sensitive people, I used gay as synonymous to powerful.)
I've been playing online matches lately, and what really irks me is how campy it is. Spamming projectiles is actually a viable strategy because of how dangerous it is to approach people. Other than that though, it's loads of fun (if I could stop using the grab button when I want to shield >_>.)
^pro tip: go to settings and reverse the shield and grab buttons. Makes things so much easier.
I LOVE YOU MARRY ME
The game heavily favors defensive and campy game similar to brawl, and it is only amplified by the lag inherent in about every match :P
You can do it though, just get better at shields and short hop aerials. Techniques like tomahawk will help out as well.
Quote from: FireArrow on October 11, 2014, 11:34:40 AMI LOVE YOU MARRY ME
It's not legal here yet but once it is yeah totally
I have purchased the game. Anyone who wishes to dual with myself may do so.
Or, to use a colloquialism, please bring it.
@Blueflower Yesh
Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on October 11, 2014, 12:05:27 PMThe game heavily favors defensive and campy game similar to brawl, and it is only amplified by the lag inherent in about every match :P
You can do it though, just get better at shields and short hop aerials. Techniques like tomahawk will help out as well.
As a melee player, short hopped aerials are my thing bro, they just always get shield grabbed and are easy to punish now thanks to no L-canceling. The biggest reason the game is so campy is because roles and air dodging have such little lag, which said techniques don't help against (landing lag is literally longer than roll lag.)
The only reasonable way to deal with it is to read roles (which seem to have replaced wave dashing >_>), but I suck at that. Maybe I'll just start D-smash spamming once I get used to smashes vs tilts.
I'm split between emotions.
I'm pissed that the gamestop closest to Gonzaga doesn't have anymore physical copies of the game- I would have come to pick it up last weekend, but I had huge paper to write and didn't need anymore distraction, so when I told the guy I preordered it, he said I was "too late," and that it had come out "last sunday" (the idiot didn't even know when it was fucking released; it was Friday). Also, I refuse to buy a download code. I will never download a retail game. It puts too much risk on my system- if something were to happen to my 3DS, the game is gone.
I'm worried, because he said I was "too late," that the $10 I put down on the game might not be there anymore. I've never preordered a game in one state and bought it in another...if anyone had any information about that, it would be great. I'd still buy it for full price, but I would love not to have to pay another $10.
and finally, I"m sad because I don't have the fucking game. shit. I can't even come back to pick it up until Next weekend...well, I could go back tomorrow, but it would be a total waste of a trip if they didn't have any. It's better if I just wait it out.
I just want to smaaaaaash!
I don't know about preordering between states before, but I preordered at a store that closed down before the release date. I went to a different one and they were really confused and didn't really seem to know what to do, but they managed to transfer the order and I still had all the money I already put down. This was for Pokemon X on the release date too, so it wasn't exactly a peaceful or quiet day at the store. I don't see why they couldn't do the same for interstate orders
You might not get the exact copy that they held for you, but you at least shouldn't lose your money
Quote from: Bubbles on October 11, 2014, 10:21:15 PMYou might not get the exact copy that they held for you, but you at least shouldn't lose your money
As long as they don't give me a fucking download code, I'll be happy with what I get.
But I'm an American, and until I get what I want when I want, I'm going to be unhappy with what I currently have.
Quote from: Kman96 on October 11, 2014, 10:44:45 PMAs long as they don't give me a fucking download code, I'll be happy with what I get.
But I'm an American, and until I get what I want when I want, I'm going to be unhappy with what I currently have.
Heck MEE TOO!!!
So I've been playing with Shulk a lot recently. He's pretty interesting.
We ought to have a competition to see who can get the highest score in the Mini-Games, like Home-run Contest and Target Blast! I'm eager to share. :P
I'm sure you are.
Hahaha! Yeah, I was just waiting for Waddle Bro to tell me to shut up again... XD
Well, my younger brother and I have been attempting to out-do each other for those games, so we've racked up quite an impressive score for 'em. Though, our Home-run Contest scores aren't anywhere near those freaks that somehow managed to get over 3,000 metres (or 10,000 feet in your case) without even using the Home-run Bat as the final move... Nerds.
I'm actually afraid to play this game much more than I already have because I don't want to wreck my circle pad xD So I'm going to take it easy and just fight with Blue online for a while, and play the Wii U one a lot when it comes out.
I think my circle pad is already suffering. Oops.
Really? I'm not having any troubles with the circle pad. Then again, I can see how it'd be easy to do, especially if someone heavy-handed kept attempting to do those mini-games. So many smash attacks!!
Anyways, here's my current records for both mini-games:
Home-Run Contest: 1455.4 m (4774 ft 11 in) with Ganondorf
Target Smash: 684,930 with Ludwig
The Home-Run Contest one made me so proud 'til I saw what other people had done online... My Target Smash score is the one I'm VERY proud of! I take pride in finding patterns in games, and I managed to find a SUPER-easy way to blow up every single red target and nearly every obstacle on the screen with Ludwig. All you have to do it use two moves! And, because I executed it perfectly twice, I got such a high score. I actually can't find any higher records than that on the internet, so that could even be a world record... Probably not. Someone's always better. XD
My circle pad cover already comes off. It really isn't that hard to fix with super glue.
And this:
That seems pretty simple to get out of tbh. Like, I'd have to try it to be sure, but there's no way that should be so effective.
Yeah, I have my doubts that the second player even attempted to escape from that at any time.
Quote from: fingerz on October 12, 2014, 03:02:04 PMThe Home-Run Contest one made me so proud 'til I saw what other people had done online... My Target Smash score is the one I'm VERY proud of! I take pride in finding patterns in games, and I managed to find a SUPER-easy way to blow up every single red target and nearly every obstacle on the screen with Ludwig. All you have to do it use two moves! And, because I executed it perfectly twice, I got such a high score. I actually can't find any higher records than that on the internet, so that could even be a world record... Probably not. Someone's always better. XD
Could very well be a temporary world record
Should I or should I not post my replay on YouTube, that is the question... People will know how I did it, then. ;D
Whatever you do, just remember that we're all dust in the wind, and that there will be virtually no memories of us or our accomplishments in mere centuries' time.
Oh well, it was the moment of pure joy in managing to get over double my brother's score that made it worth it. :P
Quote from: fingerz on October 12, 2014, 03:02:04 PMHome-Run Contest: 1455.4 m (4774 ft 11 in) with Ganondorf
Ganondorf dominates at home run contest. I've only managed 4110.5ft so far, but I know I could get far higher if I can get used to how finicky the circle pad is :P
Quote from: FierceDeity on October 12, 2014, 04:49:30 PMWhatever you do, just remember that we're all dust in the wind, and that there will be virtually no memories of us or our accomplishments in mere centuries' time.
That's why you write stuff down :P
Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on October 12, 2014, 07:22:11 PMGanondorf dominates at home run contest. I've only managed 4110.5ft so far, but I know I could get far higher if I can get used to how finicky the circle pad is :P
I don't really know how they get his punch to make it go further than the home-run bat... Surely it wouldn't work, but it does? XD
A Reverse Warlock Punch does more damage than a standard Warlock Punch. I think a standard is slightly weaker than the bat, but doing a reverse punch is enough to add those few percentages over the bat's capacity.
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on October 12, 2014, 07:32:34 PMThat's why you write stuff down :P
Even the most persistent efforts at self-preservation will be swept away by the all-devouring, entropic entity that is time.
Quote from: fingerz on October 12, 2014, 05:02:59 PMOh well, it was the moment of pure joy in managing to get over double my brother's score that made it worth it. :P
My bleak existentialism didn't even phase you
Dear god, you are
unbreakable
Oh wow, I'll keep the Reverse Warlock Punch in mind when I do that again next time... :o
Hahaha! It takes a lot to get me down. Unless it's women-related, I'm not usually phased. Then again, nothing could get me down at the moment. :)
I think Fingerz is on some sort of higher plane of intelligence.
TEACH ME YOUR WAYS, MASTER
Quote from: FierceDeity on October 12, 2014, 03:09:56 PMThat seems pretty simple to get out of tbh. Like, I'd have to try it to be sure, but there's no way that should be so effective.
If it wasn't a real infinite I would've expected it to be debunked by now, but so far all I've seen are more reports that it works against certain other characters too. Haven't had the chance to try it against other people yet, but it's hilarious how easy it is, especially compared to Zero Suit Samus's infinite on Robin.
Quote from: fingerz on October 12, 2014, 08:24:52 PMI don't really know how they get his punch to make it go further than the home-run bat... Surely it wouldn't work, but it does? XD
It's because the bat falls on the bag to bounce it upwards, but then the punch immediately after shifts the momentum, so that's why it goes farther than just home-running it.
WELL, I tried the Home-Run Contest again using the same combos but finishing with Ganondorf's Reverse Warlock Punch instead of the Home-Run Bat... Good god did that thing fly... My record is now 2,534 m (~8313 ft) without even using the Home-Run Bat once! I'm happy with that for the time being. XD
Oh, sure! If you want to know something, just ask. Helping is what I do, usually. :P
Lol, just cleared all star on hard with Zelda using nothing but up B, and left two hearts unused. That was entertaining.
...I think I actually need a new circle pad. rip me
Quote from: Nebbles on October 13, 2014, 06:07:18 PM...I think I actually need a new circle pad. rip me
*tears nebbles in half*
in the arms of an angel
I will remember you.
Thank you, Maestro. I'm touched.
I haven't touched you.
Yet.
This is why I love ninsheet forums
..."yet"?
Don't worry about it.
Just relax and it'll be fine.
I fucking spat out my coffee with laughter what the fuck maestro
I am not liable for lost food and drink stuffs.
lol wat did i just read
also my friend came over and i played the ssb4 demo on it but i still cant find my 3ds its hopelessly lost like omg
you must find your 3ds though
I gotta get mine repaired, though. I hope I can do it locally instead of sending it to Nintendo...
Maestro is one of my favorite people on this website. All shall bow down.
In other news, I went downtown again today but that asshole guy was there at gamestop again. I'm avoiding him. I want to talk to someone who won't immediately assume I'm an idiot. It has to be a progressive thing.
http://youtu.be/RBXq1fIuDCs?t=1m24s
Quote from: Nebbles on October 13, 2014, 08:18:12 PMyou must find your 3ds though
I gotta get mine repaired, though. I hope I can do it locally instead of sending it to Nintendo...
Ooh what's broken, it might be easy to do yourself :D
Read the thread
Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on October 16, 2014, 11:45:10 AMOoh what's broken, it might be easy to do yourself :D
Circle pad. I don't know if I can do that myself lmao
I'm still confused as to how anyone manages to destroy their circle pad while playing this game.
Anyways, I think Zero-Suit Samus and Greninja will become my mains as well. They're so damn quick and have such a great moveset! Going from someone like Ike, with the reaction speed he has, to them is GODLY! I still consider Ike to be my main main, though. He's the one who can take down the most people. :P
Now Captain Falcon is my main. Not quite as hard hitting/quick as Zero, but much heavier. And falcon punch.
Any of those punches and their reverse forms are beastly! :D
Quote from: Nebbles on October 16, 2014, 03:19:34 PMCircle pad. I don't know if I can do that myself lmao
ezpz (https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Nintendo+3DS+Circle+Pad+Replacement/6064)
Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on October 16, 2014, 06:45:38 PMezpz (https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Nintendo+3DS+Circle+Pad+Replacement/6064)
...i'd be too afraid of messing it up. I mean, it does seem doable, but yeesh.
I think that is not the problem. The cover keeps coming off. Use superglue.
My cover isn't coming off. The circle pad itself feels rickety and I can't fight as well with it.
Oh my....
Amazon leaked 2 new smash game modes:
Spoiler
Quote"Whether you're creating stages on the GamePad, competing in challenges crafted by Master Hand and Crazy Hand, or outwitting your opponents in a brand new board game mode, there's no doubt that the ultimate Smash Bros. game has arrived,"
I spent hundreds of hours with the Stage Builder on Brawl, it's one of my favourite additions to the game. <3
Quote from: Waddle Bro on October 17, 2014, 10:18:40 AMI spent hundreds of hours with the Stage Builder on Brawl, it's one of my favourite additions to the game. <3
It was so much fun, I agree
I have a gsp of 1,248,032 in trophy rush. ;D
I now have smash 4 now.
Hype.
Quote from: maelstrom. on October 17, 2014, 09:03:54 PMI have a gsp of 1,248,032 in trophy rush. ;D
What was your actual score? :P
Quote from: maelstrom. on October 17, 2014, 09:03:54 PMI have a gsp of 1,248,032 in trophy rush. ;D
Yoooooo impressive ^-^
Quote from: fingerz on October 19, 2014, 02:43:09 PMWhat was your actual score? :P
502,170
No falls/over the bar penalties , 2:30, nearly everything smashed.
Wow, good job! What character did you do it with? :)
Quote from: fingerz on October 19, 2014, 08:56:44 PMWow, good job! What character did you do it with? :)
Trade secretLink
Yeah, my brother got 494,000-ish with Wario by driving around on his bike the whole time. ^^
Every one of link's normal attacks breaks boxes. Up+b is killer, especially in multiman smashes.
down smash donkey kong ftw
hype (http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2014/10/rumour_super_smash_bros_for_nintendo_3ds_data_prompts_more_dlc_speculation)
Someone read this
Quote from: maelstrom. on October 21, 2014, 05:54:05 AMhype (http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2014/10/rumour_super_smash_bros_for_nintendo_3ds_data_prompts_more_dlc_speculation)
Also,
(https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/ss/zlCfzSkWOogV_yRvgo)
Quote from: SakuraiPic of the day. The trophies from the Xenoblade series can be found mostly in the Wii U version. Here's Melia looking the other way.
So which character is everyone enjoying the most now that it's been a few weeks?? I've sort of given up on the 3DS game myself aside from the occasional match with Blue--I'm too paranoid about my 3DS breaking.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on October 21, 2014, 07:54:03 AMSo which character is everyone enjoying the most now that it's been a few weeks?? I've sort of given up on the 3DS game myself aside from the occasional match with Blue--I'm too paranoid about my 3DS breaking.
I've had a lot of fun with a lot of the characters. My favorite newcomer would have to be Shulk, though. His counter move is really neat, and I like his Buster and Smash arts. It makes him really offensive and I like that.
I've been playing as Captain Falcon quite a bit. Falcon Kick is great for catching people off guard, especially in sudden death.
I still don't have it yet. Its a good half-hour trek off campus to get to the nearest GameStop, and whenever I make the trek, they don't have any physical copies for me to purchase. I just need to keep checking as much as I can.
So much damn walking.
Walking becomes 10x funner if you listen to music. Either use it to pass the time or imagine yourself exploring or something. It sounds really childish but it helped me run three miles yesterday xD
Quote from: Bubbles on October 21, 2014, 11:46:13 AMWalking becomes 10x funner if you listen to music. Either use it to pass the time or imagine yourself exploring or something. It sounds really childish but it helped me run three miles yesterday xD
That's actually true :)
Works for me :)
Ike and Greninja. I've always loved Ike, and I find Greninja incredibly easy to use to take down opponents that are too fast for Ike. :P
Quote from: SlowPokemon on October 21, 2014, 07:54:03 AMSo which character is everyone enjoying the most now that it's been a few weeks?? I've sort of given up on the 3DS game myself aside from the occasional match with Blue--I'm too paranoid about my 3DS breaking.
I've been switching around between Kirby, Wii Fit Trainer, Olimar, Ness, Peach, and Marth.
Don't worry about your DS breaking, it only extreme cases where people take the word smash too seriously.
Quote from: Kman96 on October 21, 2014, 10:20:03 AMI still don't have it yet. Its a good half-hour trek off campus to get to the nearest GameStop, and whenever I make the trek, they don't have any physical copies for me to purchase. I just need to keep checking as much as I can.
So much damn walking.
l2amazon?
Quote from: FireArrow on October 21, 2014, 04:51:29 PMDon't worry about your DS breaking, it only extreme cases where people take the word smash too seriously.
Yeah, it's seriously not an issue if you use the thing like it's meant to. You'd have to be really heavy-handed to break anything. My brother's been playing it for almost 200 hours since it came out and his isn't damaged one bit. Now he IS a heavy button-basher. :P
Yeahhhhh I'm still going to wait for the Wii U one; I've seen too many cases where people were actively trying to go easy on their systems and it still broke. But thanks guys haha
Quote from: SlowPokemon on October 21, 2014, 07:54:03 AMSo which character is everyone enjoying the most now that it's been a few weeks?? I've sort of given up on the 3DS game myself aside from the occasional match with Blue--I'm too paranoid about my 3DS breaking.
I've been mainly playing as Lucina and Shulk, but Bowser, Mega Man and Little Mac are so fun and hilarious to play as it's great
Quote from: SlowPokemon on October 21, 2014, 06:19:26 PMYeahhhhh I'm still going to wait for the Wii U one; I've seen too many cases where people were actively trying to go easy on their systems and it still broke. But thanks guys haha
That's fine. I can't wait for the Wii U one too! I do like the control scheme for the 3DS over the Wii Remote one, so I think using the Gamepad will be just like a fatter and sturdier 3DS! :P
I still don't understand how you ever tolerated the Wiimote and didn't default to GCN
Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on October 22, 2014, 12:36:13 AMI still don't understand how you ever tolerated the Wiimote and didn't default to GCN
GC controller is love, GC controller is life
GC controller is best
^
I played Brawl with the Wii Remote and Nunchuk and never had an issue :) I bet the Gamecube controller was better though. For Wii U I'm just going to use the Gamepad.
I'm going to use the fancy new Pro Controller and play Smash with my feet. Then I can literally curb stomp all of my opponents.
Ohhhhhh the pro controller is so hella
I like the pro controller, but I'm still going with a gamecube adapter.
Quote from: maelstrom. on October 22, 2014, 08:54:39 AMI like the pro controller, but I'm still going with a gamecube adapter.
I love the GameCube controller too. Even though I grew up on the N64 Controller, I still like the GC controller better. I have a N64 but I dont have Banjo-Tooie for it. I just play it on my computer. Us poor people use these:
(http://www.mayflash.com/Up/day_111115/201111151537508397.jpg)
Please, if you want to really play smash like a pro, you've gotta play it with an original NES controller.
The only way to play.
Quote from: MaestroUGC on October 22, 2014, 01:10:58 PMPlease, if you want to really play smash like a pro, you've gotta play it with an original NES controller.
The only way to play.
lol...
Quote from: MaestroUGC on October 22, 2014, 01:10:58 PMPlease, if you want to really play smash like a pro, you've gotta play it with an original NES controller.
The only way to play.
Thanks now not only is my Wii Gamecube port broken I also have 2 broken NES controllers and a broken Atari joystick. That's the LAST time I listen to YOU.
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on October 22, 2014, 01:39:08 PMThanks now not only is my Wii Gamecube port broken I also have 2 broken NES controllers and a broken Atari joystick. That's the LAST time I listen to YOU.
Thought Maestro was perfectToo bad....
Quote from: maelstrom. on October 22, 2014, 08:54:39 AMI like the pro controller, but I'm still going with a gamecube adapter.
C stick = best stick
Eight fighter battles and Mewtwo confirmed. Also lots of other stuff. (https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica)
Wow, now no one can complain to Sakurai anymore... :O
Quote from: blueflower999 on October 23, 2014, 04:37:28 PMEight fighter battles and Mewtwo confirmed. Also lots of other stuff. (https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica)
YES
Now all we need is Ridley and our plans will be complete...
I AM EXCITED FOR EVERYTHING
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on October 23, 2014, 05:34:06 PMNow all we need is Ridley and our plans will be complete...
I think the inclusion of him as a stage-boss/friendly helper is as close as it's ever going to get. :P
But yeah, I'm freakin' excited for the Wii U one now! MOAR PEOPLE MEANZ MOAR FUN!! :D
Mewtwo sounds kewl still no ice climbers?
Unless he figured out a way to fix the issues with them, there will be no Ice Climbers... Unless he suddenly decides to make version exclusive characters as well. ;)
Pretty sure they've thoroughly debunked the Ice Climbers thing. They wouldn't specifically say that if they were going to add them.
Did anyone pay attention to the CD portion? There was a bunch of songs including Try, Try Again (why) and a portion of the new Xenoblade Chronicles medley played which was a remix of this song (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAW4xlbyu28)
I think most of the Smash OST is on the two CDs? Still, I can't wait oh my god I am so excited
I still have the pipe dream that they will somehow fix the online ~.~
It's good to see Nintendo is starting to learn about at least some modern practices like DLC now. I find it pretty funny how all the kids on reddit and elsewhere who groan and moan about any DLC by anyone else are all giddy about *Nintendo* doing DLC.
Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on October 23, 2014, 10:46:06 PMI still have the pipe dream that they will somehow fix the online ~.~
Their current solution is get a Wii LAN Adapter, apparently. :P
Then again, you were commenting on how they were doing it wrong in terms of sending and receiving data for 3DS online matches, right? Surely there's a way to provide feedback like that to help them in the future. :)
I JUST HAD THE GREATEST NOSTALGIA TRIP UPON SEEING GREAT CAVE OFFENSIVE OH MY GOD
I mean for the 3DS mostly :P idk if I'll end up getting the Wii U version given that I probably won't buy the console until the next Zelda game, plus if they're keeping the games essentially identical then... I feel like I don't really want to buy it twice >.>
Not even for Mewtwo? :(
Mewtwo is on both ._.
Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on October 23, 2014, 10:46:06 PMI still have the pipe dream that they will somehow fix the online ~.~
It's good to see Nintendo is starting to learn about at least some modern practices like DLC now. I find it pretty funny how all the kids on reddit and elsewhere who groan and moan about any DLC by anyone else are all giddy about *Nintendo* doing DLC.
I don't like DLC by anybody
Depends on the game, but I usually don't mind DLC as long as it's quality.
Quote from: maelstrom. on October 24, 2014, 04:52:19 AMIf you buy both
It's free if you buy both, meaning there's still a chance that you can purchase the character in the future if you don't own both versions. I guess we'll see.
It would me remarkably silly if they forced you to spend $100 to get a tiny few dollar value DC. I'm sure they'll make it available in some way or fashion... Maybe. Well I guess Nintendo doesn't have the best track record with this sort of thing but ehhh ._.
Also how did nobody mention RIDLEY CONFIRMED as stage hazard
Ridley's shadow was shown on the Metroid stage ages ago.
Plus people are complaining that they don't get to play as Ridley. As if it would ever work in the first place. Having a giant dragon among tiny things like Pikachu is slightly unbalanced imo
bowser
Isn't ridley like 3 times the size of bowser
^try 10
Bowser is roughly the same size as Mario in almost every game though unless something is making him huge or the Bros. small
Okay, while Bowser is definitely smaller than Ridley, I think "same size as Mario" is going a little far, seeing as:
(http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100828034840/nintendo/en/images/6/68/Dark_world_64.jpg)
nope
(http://www.mariowiki.com/images/thumb/a/a3/PMBowserBattle1.png/250px-PMBowserBattle1.png)
still nope
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Ba_7mMspUCg/UiQHzO1xPvI/AAAAAAAAf54/NdeL4qIWk8c/s1600/super+mario+sunshine+bowser+final+boss.JPG)
definitely nope
If you really want to go with the scale argument, then somebody just has to say Olimar and it's over :P
If they really wanted to, they could easily make Ridley into a fighter. I mean, they made goddamn Duck Hunt Dog into a fighter.
I don't give 2 shits whether or not Ridley is a character, but it's definitely not just "well he's too big" lol
edit: also what FD said :P
Quote from: FierceDeity on October 24, 2014, 02:03:36 PMThing
Okay I know this really has nothing to do with the conversation at this point, but dude you're using exceptions--the Super Mario 64 size difference was changed in the DS remake to use modern character models, Paper Mario is a totally different beast (and besides, in that series Mario is about the height of his mushroomless self in the main series), and according to the Mario wiki, in Super Mario Sunshine, before the fight Mario is "shocked to see Bowser at such a large size for apparently no reason."
Aside from that, the only instances of Bowser being much bigger than Mario are in New Super Mario Bros. 2, Wii, and U (when Kamek and the Koopalings use magic to make him about 100 times his size), Super Mario Galaxy 2 (due to absorbing energy from the power stars), and if you want to count spinoffs, Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story/Dream Team (the Bros. shrink for some unknown reason when they enter his body in the former, and Bowser grows huge as part of the story several times in each game). All of the other games have Mario and Bowser's size relationship not far off from what Smash portrays it as. My point still stands.
He's certainly not always jumbo huge, but he's definitely *larger*. If comparing Bowser to Mario ratio to Ridley to Samus, then yea, it would be closer to the same.
(http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20061130033904/metroid/images/5/56/Zeromissionridley.gif)
But what I was trying to say was that they obviously scale characters to work in battles. Pikachu and Jigglypuff are 1ft tall according to Pokedex, and of course there's Olimar like I mentioned, so they just warp things to make it work with gameplay.
And I mostly just said Bowser cause k-night said 'giant dragon among tiny things like Pikachu" :P
Amusingly enough, there was an instance of Ridley and Samus together in one of the Melee videos with a much smaller difference in size than seen with the new game.
(http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100225222703/metroid/images/c/c2/Sb2shot_03.jpg)
(http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20141023235558/metroid/images/thumb/0/08/Ridley_Revealed_in_SSB4.png/640px-Ridley_Revealed_in_SSB4.png)
All right, fair enough. I'll concede.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on October 24, 2014, 03:12:23 PMAll right, fair enough. I'll concede.
*applauds slow for being a bigger man*
A friend of mine, in a match, decided to make boomerangs the only avaliable item in the match.
We then spent 5 minutes furiously blocking each others boomerangs in order to hit each other.
Smash 4 is the best game ever.
Fanboy Passion
THERE'S AN EARTHBOUND DEMO IN THE WII U VERSION AAAAAA
Finally got this game. I can't play it yet due to school stuff, but I'll get around to it soon enough, I hope.
I don't know a thing about Metroid or Ridley, but there's quite a bit of evidence to suggest that he's not going to be a playable character even for DLC considering as he's already a major part of a stage. Still, I found this video a while back and thought it was pretty darn neat. If they could make this, so could Nintendo. ;)
Nintendo decided to patch smash with ""balance"" adjustments, however they gave no detailed patch notes like every other competent developer, so everybody is throwing around rumor.
In all likelihood they didn't do dick, since you can still play online with people with the older version of the game.
And the online is still just as unplayably laggy.
One of these days you'll make a positive post rather than a nit-picky complaining one. It's still a wonder that a game like Smash Brothers works on a handheld at all, so a little lag should be expected.
When Nintendo makes good decisions I will
If Wii U smash comes out and magically has beautiful smooth online play, then I will be like wow ninty u did gud.
But at this point they're just a disappointment and it is sad.
And no, it is not a "wonder", it's more of a wonder that Nintendo has managed to do it. See the precedent of many years of online gaming by every other developer as well as many that are on Sony's portables :P
The lag isn't because the game can't run well on Nintendo's shitty hardware, it's because Nintendo still can't figure out how to write decent netcode.
Just thought I should point out that I've only had one laggy online match. Then again, I only play 1-on-1
You're one of the lucky ones. There's no consistency with it, which is the problem.
I don't think I have a single friend who hasn't been insanely frustrated by the amount of lag the accompanies online smash. I don't actually own the game(or a 3DS) so I don't have any first hand experience with the game outside local matches. But you'd think Nintendo would've figured something out after the shitfest that was Brawl online.
I've heard 4 player matches are disasters, however....
The lag definitely isn't as terrible as Brawl, but it's still an issue.
Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on October 27, 2014, 06:45:34 PMYou're one of the lucky ones. There's no consistency with it, which is the problem.
I rarely lag, and when I do, it's usually because my opponent has shitty internet. Nintendo's online isn't the best, but if you have good connection it works fine.
Lol if you legitimately think Nintendo doesn't make good decisions and their hardware's capabilities are crappy I can't really take your argument seriously... though I sometimes have lag issues, it's only because my college's Internet is bad.
I don't think Nintendo is a disappointment in any way tbh but whatever! They're my favorite gaming company. No one else can give me magic like Nintendo can.
I gotta say I'm not a fan of this game on the 3DS. My friend brought it over and I was lucky enough to play it for a bit.
-New items are cool (gust bellows <3)
-Characters that have historically been annoying are still annoying
-Greninja was purposely made OP, and his up B is pikachu's quick attack but better (also bunny hood on this guy is ridic)
-Rosalina's ^B is the best recovery move in the game, but also least forgiving.
-The button scheme feels weird somehow. Maybe I'm too used to the GCN, but the 3DS just feels uncomfortable.
-Palutena is probably my favorite character out of the ones I played.
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on October 27, 2014, 07:28:03 PMI gotta say I'm not a fan of this game on the 3DS. My friend brought it over and I was lucky enough to play it for a bit.
-New items are cool (gust bellows <3)
-Characters that have historically been annoying are still annoying
-Greninja was purposely made OP, and his up B is pikachu's quick attack but better (also bunny hood on this guy is ridic)
-Rosalina's ^B is the best recovery move in the game, but also least forgiving.
-The button scheme feels weird somehow. Maybe I'm too used to the GCN, but the 3DS just feels uncomfortable.
-Palutena is probably my favorite character out of the ones I played.
Wow, I think I disagree with you on every point you've made.
1. I don't like most of the new items, though the gust bellows are neat in concept. I find that items in general just annoy me in this iteration, but that might be because I'm older idk.
2. I don't understand what you mean by "characters that have historically been annoying" lol
3. Greninja was "purposely made OP?" You totally lost me?? The point of smash is that none of the characters are OP, not to mention I find Greninja really difficult to play with.
4. Rosalina is the best new character in the game period 8) though I guess I don't really have anything to disagree with here. The launch star element of her up-B move means that she's propelled a long way, but diagonally, so it takes some getting used to.
5. The button scheme is customizable and aside from the L and R buttons the button scheme is exactly the same so I don't really see how that's a valid complaint
6. Eh I have no opinion on Palutena, the general consensus is that she's the least fun interestingly. I don't hate her or anything but she's sort of bland.
Quote from: FireArrow on October 27, 2014, 07:23:26 PMI rarely lag, and when I do, it's usually because my opponent has shitty internet. Nintendo's online isn't the best, but if you have good connection it works fine.
People usually think it's this simple, but there are many people that a) use the same connection for a wide variety of other games with no issue and/or b) have super expensive fast internet and still have issues.
And slow pls, see Pokemon XY running in 3D for easy hardware example :P
Yeah, my internet is pretty good but I've still experienced lag. Even in LOCAL matches, I've gotten lag. I hope this is fixed in the Wii U version...
I'm pretty sure the online works like most other fighting games. The nintendo server picks a random person to host the match, and the lag is mostly dependant on their connection. If their upload/download speed is bad, the match is laggy. It's as simple as that
Quote from: SlowPokemon on October 27, 2014, 07:33:22 PMThe point of smash is that none of the characters are OP
The Spacies would like to disagree with you. So would Brawl Metaknight.
Also, Nocturne anyone who plays with items while trying to take the game seriously...just no. Items are for when you're just screwing around and are having fun. Items aren't meant for when you want to actually having a balanced, fair game.
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on October 27, 2014, 07:28:03 PMI gotta say I'm not a fan of this game on the 3DS. My friend brought it over and I was lucky enough to play it for a bit.
-New items are cool (gust bellows <3)
-Characters that have historically been annoying are still annoying
-Greninja was purposely made OP, and his up B is pikachu's quick attack but better (also bunny hood on this guy is ridic)
-Rosalina's ^B is the best recovery move in the game, but also least forgiving.
-The button scheme feels weird somehow. Maybe I'm too used to the GCN, but the 3DS just feels uncomfortable.
-Palutena is probably my favorite character out of the ones I played.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on October 27, 2014, 07:33:22 PMWow, I think I disagree with you on every point you've made.
1. I don't like most of the new items, though the gust bellows are neat in concept. I find that items in general just annoy me in this iteration, but that might be because I'm older idk.
2. I don't understand what you mean by "characters that have historically been annoying" lol
3. Greninja was "purposely made OP?" You totally lost me?? The point of smash is that none of the characters are OP, not to mention I find Greninja really difficult to play with.
4. Rosalina is the best new character in the game period 8) though I guess I don't really have anything to disagree with here. The launch star element of her up-B move means that she's propelled a long way, but diagonally, so it takes some getting used to.
5. The button scheme is customizable and aside from the L and R buttons the button scheme is exactly the same so I don't really see how that's a valid complaint
6. Eh I have no opinion on Palutena, the general consensus is that she's the least fun interestingly. I don't hate her or anything but she's sort of bland.
1. Items r 4 n00bz
...I'm only half joking, haha. I think I feel just the way about items in this game as I have in every iteration. Some are really fucking OP, like the gust bellows, which I throw away every time I find it in a classic match, just because it's an auto win. They're definitely fun concepts, and were fun to play around with for the first couple days of having the game, but in terms of balance, they're incredibly unfair and randomizing (just as they always have been, and just as they were intended to be).
TL;DR items are good for casual dicking around but nothing else
2. I mean, they nerfed meta knight, I really don't know what more you could ask for, haha. I'm assuming nocturne is referring to spammy characters, which are pretty easily dealt with (except, again, for Brawl's iteration of meta knight)
3. While the intention is that the characters all be relatively even, that definitely hasn't ever been/isn't currently the case. I think they made a greater effort in this version than they ever had to balance it out, but that doesn't mean that there won't be (nor that there aren't already) pretty clear tiers of characters. Greninja is definitely going to be high tier when "official" (i.e. smashboards) listings get out; its down air combos super well (reverse air juggling, anyone?), its counter has both good reach and decent duration, its side special is pretty hard to counter without playing at a really high level, and it has great recovery.
Though nocturne, I really wouldn't call it "pikachu's quick attack but better". It does no damage; it's like a mix between that and Mario's F.L.U.D.D.
4. Is it really the best recovery move in the game? Pit/dark pit's up specials have pretty similar recovery potential, and to say all three are objectively the best kinda doesn't take into account things with greater distance/duration (R.O.B.), nor things with more ledge guard countering. I'm not saying they're not better (Duck Hunt's up B makes you SO vulnerable, holy shit), I'm just saying there's a lot more than going a large amount of distance in a small amount of time to consider.
5. I mean, the L and R thing has been bothering me a lot. I switched them, and it's been so weird not just doing everything with my right index finger. I still occasionally grab instead of rolling (though I only made the switch like two days ago). Other than that, the lack of C stick is pretty painful, as well. It seems like a minor (potentially negligible, assuming perfect play) difference, but it's been making quite a difference in the way I play.
EDIT: Also, the circle pad is definitely harder to control than a joystick. It's really hard to do up/side tilt moves without accidentally moving, and just more difficult to move specific distances in general.
6. I'm not crazy about Palutena either. She's ranked pretty low on current voter-based tier lists (http://www.eventhubs.com/tiers/ssb4/), and, while these aren't all that reliable (Dark Pit is ranked 5 higher than Pit, somehow?), it's not very reassuring to see her down at #36. My guess is Nintendo really wanted to use her to showcase the customization feature, seeing as her choices for specials are so different from one another, in comparison to the other characters.
HOLY SHIT GUYS I WASN'T TRYING TO WRITE AN ESSAY THIS TIME I SWEAR
I DON'T BELIEVE U FD NOBODY WRITES ESSAYS ACCIDENTALLY
LIKE "OOPS THERE'S ANOTHER ESSAY HAHA SRRY"
If only Fierce devoted this kind of thought power and time to solving world hunger, imagine where we'd be right now.
I'd probably still be in this chair.
That'd be great if he did something like that but I'm not hungry.
No but like, actually, I just make an attempt to respond to each part of what people say, and one comparatively small thing adds up to another and, whoops, essay. maybe I should try cutting it down to something people will actually read
Sorry, you trailed off at the end and I stopped reading.
Can you give me the short version?
As Yugi has probably seen, I got the game yesterday (I would be playing it right now, but my brother is! Myaah!). My early observation is that Mii Brawler is AWESOME.
So...I think I may have discovered something that I haven't seen anyone here or on YouTube mention, and maybe it's just a coincidence.
Essentially, my conjecture is that, once you meet the requirements to unlock a character, if you die while fighting them after Classic mode, they will continue to appear every time after you beat classic mode. That means that you can't unlock any more characters until you unlock the current one. Here is my proof.
The requirements to unlock Dr. Mario are: Clear Classic Mode as Mario on intensity 4.0 or higher, or alternatively, Play 60 matches. I played Classic mode as Mario on 5.0 difficulty and got to the end of classic mode. I fought Dr. Mario once and was totally destroyed by him. I repeated classic mode with mario and lost to him again. Then I set my 3DS down (off and everything) and went to class. When I came back, I decided that I wanted to try to unlock Lucina using Marth on Classic mode without continuing. So, I set the difficulty down to 3.0 (below the level required to unlock Dr. Mario w/Mario), and played through classic mode, yet at the end, I was still forced to fight Dr. Mario instead of Lucina. It would have alerted me if I had played 60 matches, so I know that's not it. The only thing other than the difficulty and the character choice that I did was that when I played as Marth, I took the black path and fought Master + Crazy Hand(s). So, either my conjecture is correct, or I discovered another way to unlock Dr. Mario.
Thoughts? Dr. Mario is a pain in my ass.
EDIT: UPDATE: I just beat 100 Man Mode with Link to try to unlock Wario AND GUESS WHO SHOWED UP? Dr. FUCKING Mario. I beat his ass, though.
EDIT2: UPDATE AGAIN: I beat 100 Man Mode AGAIN with Link, expecting to get Wario, and LUCINA SHOWS UP?!?!?! I'm starting to think that as the game registers that you have completed the requirements to unlock them, they just randomly appear after you complete a milestone challenge like Classic or 100-Man smash.
Just play the regular Smash mode. Once you have fulfilled the requirements the new fighters show up even after a simple 1-stock Smash battle.
Quote from: Kman96 on October 29, 2014, 11:21:46 PMThe requirements to unlock Dr. Mario are: Clear Classic Mode as Mario on intensity 4.0 or higher, or alternatively, Play 60 matches. I played Classic mode as Mario on 5.0 difficulty and got to the end of classic mode. I fought Dr. Mario once and was totally destroyed by him. I repeated classic mode with mario and lost to him again. Then I set my 3DS down (off and everything) and went to class. When I came back, I decided that I wanted to try to unlock Lucina using Marth on Classic mode without continuing. So, I set the difficulty down to 3.0 (below the level required to unlock Dr. Mario w/Mario), and played through classic mode, yet at the end, I was still forced to fight Dr. Mario instead of Lucina. It would have alerted me if I had played 60 matches, so I know that's not it. The only thing other than the difficulty and the character choice that I did was that when I played as Marth, I took the black path and fought Master + Crazy Hand(s). So, either my conjecture is correct, or I discovered another way to unlock Dr. Mario.
Something similar just happened to me earlier. I tried to unlock Ganondorf, failed, then tried to unlock Lucina, got Ganondorf, failed again, then beat Classic with the Mii Brawler and POUNDED GANONDORF TO THE GROUND... but that last part is irrelevant.
According to your conjecture, if I were to beat Classic again, I would encounter Lucina next, correct?
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on October 30, 2014, 04:28:01 AMAccording to your conjecture, if I were to beat Classic again, I would encounter Lucina next, correct?
Yes, I believe that would happen. Even if you beat classic on any difficulty, she will appear.
Like JaMaHa said, all of the characters you have already met the conditions to attempt an unlock at will reappear after any standard vs match, so you can just suicide on a 1 stock to get it instantly...
I did not see Jamaha's post before replying to BDS.
That's just weird. None of the other Smash games had something like that. It's like they're all lined up to get unlocked and won't change their order no matter what.
it could be that they don't expect you to lose
The system actually seems pretty intuitive to me. They want it to feel like an accomplishment to unlock a character, without the process being all that punishing. If a kid is playing this game and loses the first time they encounter a character, and then unwittingly complete an objective for another character while still fuming about the first one, it might make them a bit worried that they lost the character for good. The mechanics behind this process are just as accessible via google as are the actual requirements to unlock each character, so it makes sense that they'd tune the process more toward the players without any outside information.
Quote from: Kman96 on October 30, 2014, 07:30:13 AMYes, I believe that would happen. Even if you beat classic on any difficulty, she will appear.
I just tried it right now- I got Jigglypuff, then Lucina... ???
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on October 30, 2014, 04:22:33 PMI just tried it right now- I got Jigglypuff, then Lucina... ???
Well then you obviously fulfilled the requirements to unlock Jigglypuff before you completed the requirements for Lucina.
If you mean none of the previous games had the play 1 game in vs to get a try again, then that would be incorrect as that's how it's always been from what I recall.. :P
^it's certainly how it was in Brawl. I know that the original game didn't have that and I can't remember about Melee but Brawl was the same way.
Ah. I've never owned Brawl, so excuse me for my ignorance.
I was just frustrated that I failed at unlocking a specific character, and when I attempted to unlock a separate other character, I was surprised by the resurface of the previous one. In Melee, if I couldn't unlock one character, I would just move on to another until I felt like going back to them.
But on the bright side, at least all you have to do is Smash in this game to unlock characters! :D You don't have to do anything absurd! (Looking at you, Mewtwo in Melee...)
None of the characters took me *that* long to beat--I remember having difficulty with Dark Pit and Duck Hunt, but the others didn't take more than one or two attempts.
There seems to be a strange glitch going around banning people for an exorbitant amount of time.
Spoiler
(http://i.imgur.com/PRayTiS.jpg)
So I just lost a round in all-star mode because the last two characters never spawned
I was just sitting there for over 4 minutes, waiting
What
Anyone played a 'hot potato' match with other people all as Villager? Pocketing cut-down trees and attempting to chuck them around at other people has never been so much fun!! :D
I made a Babe Ruth Mii Fighter! He has the Home-Run Bat Agility Badge and Quick Batter Brawn Badge equipped; it's so wonderfully brilliant! Ahahaha!
My friend just got me a GameCube!! I'd never played one until last week! Wow, the hole between the N64 and the Wii just got a whole lot smaller now... I have to get me Melee now. :P
whoawhoawhoa what other GCN games have you missed out on for too many years
DANG you have really been missing out!!!!The Gamecube is AMAZING and so is MELEE!!!!
He's probably never even played Wind Waker
:'( you are probly right it's sooo sad.
Unless he played the HD version, like me.
;)Yeah he might have.I totally forgot about the hd version but i still prefer the gamecube version though. ;D Hey whats everybodys fav Zelda game?????? Mine is Ocarina Of Time.
This is the Smash Bros topic. Not the what is you favorite zelda game topic.
Majora's Mask
:) I loved Majora's Mask the 1 thing i diden't like was the final boss fight.Just me? ???
Who here has super smash bros 3ds?
Quote from: FalmerKiller88 on November 05, 2014, 06:47:54 PMWho here has super smash bros 3ds?
It's not out yet. We're all excited for the waiting release that is Super Smash Bros Fisticuffs for Nintendo 3DS.
Then why does my friend already have it?
I got it.
nope i live in America.Came out october 2nd
Weren't you guys all already playing it a while ago?
I'm too lazy to find/make an image indicating that the joke went over nocturne's head, but let's just imagine that I did.
(http://s28.postimg.org/ejxfop0wd/1376969323300.jpg)
lol
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on November 06, 2014, 06:45:08 AMWeren't you guys all already playing it a while ago?
Nah, you're thinking of the Wii U version. 3DS version comes out later this month.
nope i have it swear.
OH it was yugi so I shouldn't pay attention to it
????
Friendly reminder that google exists
Is this considered hazing?
P.S. I'm dying of laughter
yes
Quote from: FierceDeity on November 06, 2014, 09:49:34 AMFriendly reminder that google exists
I can't be bothered to look something up when I'm busy using the internet
lol.....I'm dying of laughter just reading through these last 3 pages....haha :)
i can't even begin
this is the best remix i've heard in a long, long time
it sounds awsome
YeaH :)
It is gud, though to be fair most all Mega Man source material is already awesome and many remixes are as well :D
People looking at the default song list have also found Retro Medleys for Mega Man 2, 3, and 4-6. HYPE
If we get anything from Mega Man 6 music-wise I think I'll cry
I am disappointed by the lousy Xenoblade Chronicles remix
same .it was ok.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGzVxF-VtZI
The little bit of Dark Moon material at the end is so funny to me--I really enjoy this remix XD
I don't know why anybody wouldn't it's awsome!
Part of me seriously wishes this made it in.
New Amiibos announced for Japan:
January 22: Lucario, Rosalina & Luma, Bowser, Toon Link, Sheik, Ike, Meta Knight, King Dedede
February: Shulk, Sonic, Mega Man
Update: all have been announced for the US in February.
META KNIGHT AND LUCARIO?
Heck yes. I might actually buy a couple now. Just make a greninja one and my wishes will be complete.
I need a charizard and a villigar and lastly GANONDORF!!!!! Who would I thought I would have wanted Ganondorf. ;D
as if your profile picture wasn't a dead giveaway... ::)
Na 8)
Hahahahahahaha oh god I'm so excited
At one point, there's just a clusterfuck of people falcon diving off of each other as they're slowly falling to their deaths on the left
Double post, but:
HOLY SHIT THIS IS AWESOME
NO MORE COOKIE CUTTER BULLSHIT
I don't understand why they're not placing a bigger emphasis on this, this is such a huge improvement from brawl
Quote from: FierceDeity on November 14, 2014, 04:34:12 PMDouble post, but:
HOLY SHIT THIS IS AWESOME
NO MORE COOKIE CUTTER BULLSHIT
I don't understand why they're not placing a bigger emphasis on this, this is such a huge improvement from brawl
ftfy
Damnit, the first one didn't have the "s" and the preview worked out well so I just assumed it'd be the same for the second one :(
Quote from: FierceDeity on November 14, 2014, 04:27:26 PM
Hahahahahahaha oh god I'm so excited
At one point, there's just a clusterfuck of people falcon diving off of each other as they're slowly falling to their deaths on the left
In HD.
And the winner is...
CAPTAIN FALCON! Who knew?
On a side note I'm glad they kept his iconic "Pink Tard".
A.k.a. Captain Fabulous
Unrelated, but I'm excited for more official tier lists to come out. Playing without internet connection (fuck you campus wifi and your complex login scheme), as well as with all of my friends best at smash on the other side of the country, has left me with little knowledge of how competitive play will pan out. It also seems like, with so many characters, many of whom have significant counters to one another (and a record number with actual counters), tiers are going to be pretty muddily defined, even with the official smashboards release.
There's a balancing update coming soon. At the very least, bowsercides are no longer insta wins
BUT THOSE ARE SO FUNNY
Also, how so? Are they just moving his hitbox down for the duration, or...
Quote from: FierceDeity on November 14, 2014, 08:25:13 PMBUT THOSE ARE SO FUNNY
Also, how so? Are they just moving his hitbox down for the duration, or...
He can no longer jump out of it. It's in the Wii U version and the update will put it in the 3ds version.
Bowserciding now results in a sudden death.
Huh, I didn't realize he could jump out of it before; I assumed the exploit was essentially winning any time the opponent gets down to 1 life (which I guess they took care of as well if it's changed to sudden death instead of "person on bottom dies first", which was the case in brawl). Though still, suppose bowser's on his last life, really high in damage, and finally brings the opponent down to one life. It's still an exploit to bowsercide, because it levels the playing field.
Bowserciding never really was broken though because you had to be at a lower percent than him for it to work.
Awwww... That was literally my favourite move as Bowser! Seriously, if I was on one life and so was the other fella, I'd just attempt that the whole time. :P
Quote from: fingerz on November 16, 2014, 02:50:11 PMAwwww... That was literally my favourite move as Bowser! Seriously, if I was on one life and so was the other fella, I'd just attempt that the whole time. :P
Hence the patch.
Makes sense/I always hated it when that happened >:(!!!!
PM 3.5 is pretty nifty. I like that they barely changed Yoshi, because I discovered recently that I kick ass with Yoshi. Also, the new stages a coll. And buffed Ganon.
Ooh I've dl it but have yet to try it out. I only recently experienced PM so I'm still going all "whoa snake is so cool now, omg ivysaur what" etc. Though, with Captain Falcon restored to his proper status it makes it hard to not just want to Captain Fabulous all the time.
Quote from: SuperFireKirby on November 17, 2014, 10:00:46 AMI like that they barely changed Yoshi, because I discovered recently that I kick butt with Yoshi.
Yeah, me too. I do awesome with Yoshi. Especially on the original Smash Bros. for N64.
I never liked Yoshi in Smash but I LOVE him in the 3DS one
Update is out.
Tentative Patch Notes (http://smashboards.com/threads/community-patch-notes-v1-0-4.378404/)
As lame as it is that they don't release official patch notes, it's so awesome that they're working at balancing character advantages now. It's what every competitive game needs.
Double post, but Sakurai says Ridley is too big.
Quote"I definitely know that Ridley's a much-anticipated name for fans, but if we made Ridley as a fighter, it wouldn't be Ridley any longer," Sakurai told IGN in an email interview. "It'd have to be shrunk down, or its wings reduced in size, or be unable to fly around freely."
Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on November 17, 2014, 07:39:19 PMOoh I've dl it but have yet to try it out. I only recently experienced PM so I'm still going all "whoa snake is so cool now, omg ivysaur what" etc. Though, with Captain Falcon restored to his proper status it makes it hard to not just want to Captain Fabulous all the time.
PM is definitely my favorite Smash(if you count it as its own game). It's got the character selection of Brawl, the physics of Melee, and none of the balancing issues found in either.
Though Spacies still reign king, and in every update someone finds some way to exploit a character. And yesterday me and friends found a nice exploit with Ganon. You can now combo his Forward Bair which throws your opponent downward with his Down A for a huge hit and it almost always gets your opponent off the edge of the stage at 0% and kill power just goes up from there. And it's almost impossible to avoid.
And, in other news, I finaly got smash 4. But I can't play it yet.
Curse you, schoolwork!
Quote from: maelstrom. on November 24, 2014, 09:29:59 AM
And, in other news, I finaly got smash 4. But I can't play it yet.
Curse you, schoolwork!
I know what you mean. I have so much stinkin schoolwork to do to.
Wish I had smash 4 though...
Finally started playing.
This is easily one of the best games I have ever played.
Especially event mode.
That Samus/revenge one is hard, but awesome.
I'm hoping to get the game ASAP so i can get my hands on those CDs and Mewtwo
A good chunk of the events are frustrating, but shit man, there's so much stuff to do in the Wii U version. It's amazing.
oh my god there's another version of this i'm so happy
Picked up Smash for Wii U today since my brother agreed to pay for part of it. I won't be playing until I come back home for Christmas break but damn this game looks awesome. Soundtrack and Mewtwo, here I come B)
Quote from: SlowPokemon on November 28, 2014, 11:51:38 AMPicked up Smash for Wii U today since my brother agreed to pay for part of it. I won't be playing until I come back home for Christmas break but damn this game looks awesome. Soundtrack and Mewtwo, here I come B)
Lucky! It wasn't on sale on Black Friday :(
But....guess il have to get it full price or wait and see if I get it for Christmas :)
Completed Solo Events 100% without ever using equipments and got that nice Galacta Knight trophy 8)
Hungry Hungry Kirby and The True Final Battle were so much bullshit to complete on Hard like holy fucking shit. I spent over an hour on both of them.
http://www.gamnesia.com/news/new-smash-bros.-for-wii-u-error-can-leave-the-game-unplayable#.VH0pPIo8LCT
welp
has anyone tried the stage builder yet? i'm really looking forward to trying it out when i get the game.
EDIT:
Quote from: Nebbles on December 02, 2014, 01:24:31 PMhttp://www.gamnesia.com/news/new-smash-bros.-for-wii-u-error-can-leave-the-game-unplayable#.VH0pPIo8LCT
welp
welp, indeed. hopefully this is an issue that nintendo can fix quickly. (not that i'll be playing for glory mode all that often)
Stage builder's kind of lame. It could be better.
Stage Builder needs more stuff to be in it.
The problem is not actually caused by Smash. It's a hardware problem.
Quote from: Nebbles on December 02, 2014, 02:25:57 PMStage builder's kind of lame. It could be better.
The fact that you need a stylus is ass.
Also just did the 8 Cruel Smash KOs w/ Lucina challenge in under 25 seconds B)
I'll check if I could record the replay somehow~
Don't have the wii u version, but one of the challenges for 3ds is "clear classic on difficulty 9.0 or higher"
can someone explain the "or higher?"
Yeah, I was a little confused by that as well...As far as we know, there is nothing currently harder than 9.0
As far as you know...
Oooh, you know differently, do you?
I know everything. And I know even more.
My record for Endless Smash is now 453.
My record for team smash with my brother is 1283. We did that as two Marios standing on the top platform spamming his up move. The only problem for them is when the character CPU's come down and you're on high percentage... XD
So now that most everyone has had a chance to play at least one version, what is your favorite character? Right now I'm getting pretty decent with Greninja. Of course I'm still on the 3DS version, but I'm hoping to get the WiiU version soon.
Shulk and Captain Falcon. Yoshi is sooooooo annoying to battle.
Shulk, Link, and Robin are my top three.
Kirby, Lucina, and bowser.
Lol
My three favs are Bowser Jr., Little Mac and Duck Hunt Duo. The latter two because they are so satisfying to use! Although I'm not so good with them as I am with my mains~
I think I'm really at my game with Toon Link, Diddy Kong and Greninja. Although Zero Suit Samus and Fox are two really good characters also!
I just hit random and go to town.
Rosalina & Luma is still my favorite. I also like Bowser, Jigglypuff, Kirby, King Dedede, and Bowser Jr. a LOT.
Quote from: K-NiGhT on December 17, 2014, 10:18:12 AMSo now that most everyone has had a chance to play at least one version, what is your favorite character? Right now I'm getting pretty decent with Greninja. Of course I'm still on the 3DS version, but I'm hoping to get the WiiU version soon.
Top 10:
1: Ike
2: Mii Brawler
3: Falco
4: Link
5: Meta Knight
6: R.O.B.
7: Greninja
8: Sheik
9: Little Mac
10: Charizard
I'm pretty good with all of the top 4, and I'm mostly working on improving with Meta Knight, Greninja, Sheik, and Little Mac.
If I had to pick a top three: Mr. Game & Watch, Pac-Man, and Mega Man.
Oh my.
http://www.gamnesia.com/news/online-pre-orders-for-rosalina-amiibo-close-after-40-minutes#.VJJUfSvYThQ
LITERALLY THE ONE AMIIBO I WANT SOBS
What's the point of amiibos if the characters are unlockable anyway
They don't unlock characters
Quote from: maelstrom. on December 17, 2014, 08:21:47 PMOh my.
http://www.gamnesia.com/news/online-pre-orders-for-rosalina-amiibo-close-after-40-minutes#.VJJUfSvYThQ
FUCKING HELL MAN
I JUST WANT THE SHULK AND ROSALINA AMIIBOS AND THIS SHIT HAPPENS
You would think with their previous history with insufficiently stocked products they would learn but......
nebbles are you really feeling your loss
Quote from: SlowPokemon on December 17, 2014, 08:24:45 PMLITERALLY THE ONE AMIIBO I WANT SOBS
I know that feel. Couldn't get Marth because I didn't get him day one. >_>
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on December 17, 2014, 08:36:53 PMWhat's the point of amiibos if the characters are unlockable anyway
I just don't know if there's any point in replying to you anymore
Nocturne is quite the convincing troll.
Quote from: MaestroUGC on December 17, 2014, 10:51:06 AMI just hit random and go to town.
Yup, that's me in a nutshell. They're all pretty simple to use, so I just go random to change it up all the time. Usually it persuades people to go random as well, so it really becomes a lot of fun! :D
Besides, I know I can take down literally everyone with Ike anyway, so there's no fun in using him anymore. XD
Quote from: Yugi on December 18, 2014, 01:02:35 AMnebbles are you really feeling your loss
yes i am really feeling it :(
Quote from: Nebbles on December 18, 2014, 06:39:43 AMyes i am really feeling it :(
WHEN YUGI FIRST POSTED THAT I WAS LIKE WHY IS HE BEING SUCH A DICK THEN I REALIZED
but seriously if the Rosalina ones are out of stock for good I'm just??? I was at work when preorders went up?? They had to know she'd be one of the bigger sellers because she's from Mario?? I don't understand it
Legitimate question, not meant in a deprecating fashion: what's the appeal of amiibos?
I just want them for the cute figurine aspect, I honestly can't figure out how they work in game no matter how much I read about them. Doesn't make sense to me on paper. So I was planning on getting the Luigi and Rosalina ones since I want them as figurines, then using them to see how they work in game.
Quote from: FierceDeity on December 18, 2014, 07:16:13 AMLegitimate question, not meant in a deprecating fashion: what's the appeal of amiibos?
They lost all appeal after they showed how badly they were implementing them.
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2014/12/rumour_toys_r_us_cancelling_amiibo_orders_including_exclusive_lucario_figure
why is this happening
why can't the amiibos just have an easy distribution
All Nintendo has to do is say "wow man we totally fucked up and didn't produce enough but don't worry bros more are on the way"
Instead they're being insufferably vague and contradictory in every goddamn public statement regarding these and the GCN adapter. Most people I know, including myself, won't even consider purchasing the game unless we know we can get an adapter :|
I don't understand why they're making bad decisions with the adapter and amiibos. They're going to make huge profits either way, so why not make mass products to assure the gains? I mean, I want some amiibos, but only a select few, and if I can't find the ones I want, I'm not going to buy them, hence a small loss in profits for Nintendo. Honestly what they're doing is just... bad. Just please produce more.
It's very...unprofessional...and pretty embarrassing for a high-profile company like Nintendo.
Speaking of inconsistency: http://www.joystiq.com/2014/12/19/toys-r-us-lucario-amiibo-pre-orders-not-being-canceled/?ncid=rss_truncated
However, a recent interview with Miyamoto had some statements implying that they are still planning to just totally phase out some Amiibos and maybe replace them with *cards* in the future.
Meh.
oh WHAT, that's lame
i want figurines, not cards
My money is that Amiibos are a bit more expensive to produce and there is not enough universal demand for all of them for them to mass produce them.
That said I want my Game & Watch, Olimar and Pac-Man.
It seems odd that they have such limited production though given that they're attempting to cash in on the recent figurine fad and seemingly compete with the Skylanders and Disney Infinity whatever that have a similar purpose...
Sure, but Nintendo has a long history of making bad business decisions. Iwata's great and all, but he's very clearly not a good business man and just doesn't seem to understand why things are successful from a financial stand point.
^^^^^^^^^^^^
I really wish Lucario wasn't a Toys r us exclusive :( that was like the only one I wanted besides maybe Fox and Pikachu, and it's in a store that I don't have access to for a 100 mile radius.
Help I'm starting to get absorbed into competitive smash culture and I can't escape
Also i was reading this article about how apparently a level 50 Fox Amiibo placed THIRD in a competitive smash tournament. (http://kotaku.com/amiibo-nearly-wins-smash-bros-tournament-1662901112) I'm seriously hoping an amiibo shows up at some super high level tournament and just destroys everyone.
Also, THE SAMUS AMIIBO OPENS SUBWAY STATION GATES. (http://kotaku.com/nintendo-amiibo-figure-somehow-opens-subway-gate-1664174554) I suppose next you'll tell me Greninja and Sheik help me pull off museum heists.
Amiibo could be Nintendo's plan to take over the world. These things are scary, man.
metro id though
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on December 23, 2014, 05:06:22 PMmetro id though
hate to break it to you but someone already made that joke. Still good tho
Quote from: K-NiGhT on December 23, 2014, 05:24:59 PMhate to break it to you but someone already made that joke. Still good tho
I know don't worry
hmm my brother got the game today so played a bit. WOW the wii u pro controller is a bad gamepad for smash, but with gcn adapters sold out it will have to do for casual play. I wish they didn't have so many cheesy stage hazards in so many of the new stages, but at least they look nice and there are a few playable ones.
I would disagree with you on the Pro Controller, but I'm probably just more adaptable.
Imo GamePad as a controller is trash for Smash, it's very uncomfortable for it.
I have 23 challenges yet to be cleared, I've spent so much time on clearing Classic on high intensities that it's not fun anymore ._.
Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on December 25, 2014, 02:44:36 PMhmm my brother got the game today so played a bit. WOW the wii u pro controller is a bad gamepad for smash, but with gcn adapters sold out it will have to do for casual play. I wish they didn't have so many cheesy stage hazards in so many of the new stages, but at least they look nice and there are a few playable ones.
While stage hazards suck for competitive play, I think they're the most amazing thing if your just playing for fun. It's not like they stop you from playing at a high level, they just add some casual spice ^_^
Perhaps it's tolerable to some, but it's just an inferior design when it comes to the controls of smash. Second stick is in an awkward location and the weirdo buttons on the GCN controller manage to work out better for that game in particular. Being able to turn off tap jump is nice though, up tilts are so ez
I mean if the stage hazards were minor things maybe, but we played the stage where giant ridley appears and sort of ruins the match by being the thing you have to fight more than other players, then we tried playing the new pokemon stadium which just spawns all these awful things everywhere, and then the mario stage has this dude that picks you up and instant ko you. Imo the most fun you get with stage hazards before they just get annoying is with the old Pokemon Stadium 2 map. There are a bunch of nice ones with flying platforms like Skyloft and the returning Delfino though. The Star Fox one would have been good if it wasn't such a distracting clusterfuck in the background :B
Does the right stick act like the gamecube c stick?
yes
I think I can deal with it
dat wireless input lag doh
What lag?
There's wireless input lag? O.o
It's probably so minimal that only super-competitive players would even care. (ie: 1 frame)
It's his TV. Mine is the same way. If you turn on the gamepad volume and the TV volume at the same time it's usually out of sync on most HDTVs
Sux
I've never had that problem.
Ever.
Of course there's input lag, it's wireless ::) It's probably not as bad as Wavebirds as they had something awful like 2 frame but it will exist even if negligible :D
And Dude thats notttt what this refers to lol, but there are apparently shoddy LCD with like 3 frames of lag
Hmmm... Must be just mine.
When I look at the gamepad screen and play there's zero lag but if I look at the TV there's a ton.
I like using the GamePad, it's my controller of choice. Makes it easy to use smash attacks and grabs.
I got a Villager amiibo today!
Had the opportunity to play sm4sh u with my little bro tonight :)
I gotta say cartoons look amazing in 1080p
also our in house ruling bans megaman because he's broken o.O
what
megaman...broken? either you've found some super-amazing strat with him, or you're just like really bad with every other character
in our household whoever plays megaman ends up winning 90% of the time
Mega Man is really beginner friendly and easy to use, but hardly broken.
Little Mac is pretty beginner friendly considering that you can just spam the A button and kill people pretty easily.
I suppose spamming side smash on megaman might work on a lower level? I mean... I don't know, he really isn't that easy to play and his projectile game is incredibly easy to wade through.
Quote from: blueflower999 on December 25, 2014, 09:09:51 PMLittle Mac is pretty beginner friendly considering that you can just spam the A button and kill people pretty easily.
Beginner Friendly is an understatement. His most efficient play style is literally "play like a scrub" which is why he absolutely dominates anything remotely casual while being pretty darn useless against someone who knows what they're doing. Basically, he scales off the opponents mistakes, not your skill.
I'd never recommend that character to anyone because he creates bad habits.
Little Mac is one of the most fun and satisfying characters to use tho
he is very satisfying to watch die at like 10% after being thrown off the side of the stage
u just bad
Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on December 26, 2014, 03:12:56 AMhe is very satisfying to watch die at like 10% after being thrown off the side of the stage
Okay this made me laugh really hard
Yay I got the game!
if megaman is really easy to play and he's good against bad people that would be a logical explanation
I'm having a surprising amount of fun messing around with the amiibo features. I got a Fox amiibo with the game since my Walmart had a little discount on them if you bought the game.
I hot a Link amiibo and named it Lonk
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on December 26, 2014, 12:56:30 PMif megaman is really easy to play and he's good against bad people that would be a logical explanation
I wouldn't call megaman easy to play.
There are a lot of characters with easily spammable attacks that can dominate people that are bad/don't know how to play. That is the case here.
Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on December 26, 2014, 05:05:13 PMThere are a lot of characters with easily spammable attacks that can dominate people that are bad/don't know how to play. That is the case here.
Megaman isn't really spammable though, his projectiles are relatively easy to get around, even for nubs. If that was the case NoS would probably be complaining about samus or falco or something.
I mean there are people that can get rekt by pikachu thunder ::)
Quote from: FireArrow on December 26, 2014, 05:13:43 PMMegaman isn't really spammable though, his projectiles are relatively easy to get around, even for nubs. If that was the case NoS would probably be complaining about samus or falco or something.
Actually Mega Man can easily spam its special moves and rank up good damage, Mega Man just lacks good kill moves.
Quote from: Waddle Bro on December 26, 2014, 07:10:00 PMActually Mega Man can easily spam its special moves and rank up good damage, Mega Man just lacks good kill moves.
Time bomb is slow and even if it does hit you it's very easy to shield (and once you learn the timing, roll/spot dodge.) The blade is both slow and catchable. Leaf shield is just niche.
As for kill moves, BAIR is amazing. Not sure about the specs on his smash attacks, but I'm pretty sure they get the job done.
I seem to remember his Up Smash doing quite well.
In other news I put my Fox amiibo up against a level 9 Fox CPU in a 10 - stock battle to see how much it had improved.
The score was 8 - 0 in favor of the CPU. I think it's safe to say my amiibo will not be winning any tournaments right now.
basically the first time I tried him i pressed B
"oh i shoot out a sawblade"
spammed b
pressed A
"oh this is lame"
shot some people
then camped underneath them and up smashed 24/7
The thing with amiibos is that at high levels they just increase their damage and/or resistance, so they just artificially increase difficulty higher than the standard lv 9. I wouldn't imagine they would get as absurd as the cruel smash AI, but who knows ._.
Quote from: FireArrow on December 26, 2014, 07:18:02 PMTime bomb is slow and even if it does hit you it's very easy to shield (and once you learn the timing, roll/spot dodge.) The blade is both slow and catchable. Leaf shield is just niche.
As for kill moves, BAIR is amazing. Not sure about the specs on his smash attacks, but I'm pretty sure they get the job done.
The blade and bomb put some serious offensive pressure as they are hardly punishable thus easy to spam unlike let's say it's smash attacks.
To be clear here, I'm not here to argue on Mega Man being good(imo it's trash), but it's projectiles are easy to spam in my experience!
also relevant cuz best mega man I've seen
I have Smash now. Just throwing that out there.
I'm surprisingly good at the Mii Swordfighter. Other than that, it's R.O.B. for dayz.
why do the events have to be so hard
I spent like 15 minutes trying to beat the Demon King and the Goddess and gave up
Quote from: Waddle Bro on December 26, 2014, 08:15:10 PMThe blade and bomb put some serious offensive pressure as they are hardly punishable thus easy to spam unlike let's say it's smash attacks.
To be clear here, I'm not here to argue on Mega Man being good(imo it's trash), but it's projectiles are easy to spam in my experience!
Offensive pressure, yes. Spammable, no. His projectiles are kinda like peaches turnips, they're great for approaching but they suck for camping. I mean yeah, you can spam them, but you'll get very little out of it even in casual play because of how underwhelming they are in a vacuum. Samus fills the scrubby roll-spamming-projectile-keep-away-game niche a lot better.
Maybe we're just using different definitions of spamming though, idk.
Kinda late here, but imo Little Mac can be relatively viable, at least enough so that I don't think he'll be in bottom tier. Don't counter near the edges, time air dodges/counters to avoid getting juggled, and use his specials sparingly. Even if you don't consider him at all viable, I don't think it develops bad habits, because if you're thinking of it in the way I just described, you'll at least learn to play super defensively. Unless, of course, you're talking about using him against computers in classic and such, in which case yeah, play the same way against people who actually know what they're doing and you're especially fucked.
As for mega man, I think it's silly to consider the definition of spamming from a "how long can you keep it up" standpoint; that hardly ever works with any character, even in most casual play, assuming it's 1v1. (FFA is unfair no matter how you slice it, so considering the checks and balances of projectile spam for that is kinda moot.) I think of mega man's approach tactic as much more spammy than peach's, because (particularly in casual play) you can get some distance, gear, bomb, then gear again before you actually need to approach, assuming it's more distance than somebody can cover in one jump. In the same way, I consider fox's blaster to be "spammy". (Like waddle, I am also not trying to say that he's good, but three projectiles immediately following one another is pretty spammy in my book. Also leaf shield is complete trash so we agree there)
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on December 26, 2014, 10:01:09 PMwhy do the events have to be so hard
I spent like 15 minutes trying to beat the Demon King and the Goddess and gave up
git gud
^You can always customize your character to give it boosts but that's for scrubs.
The reward condition for Hungry Hungry Kirby was a real pain in my ass, it took me forever. D:
As if Megaman and Diddy Kong weren't OP enough.....
Diddy is definitely going to be top tier with his winrate, and probably Sheik, but no MegaMan is not that good lol
Diddy is ridiculous. I think his down throw to up air is pretty much unavoidable, and of course most tourney level players spam the hell out of it.
Quote from: K-NiGhT on December 27, 2014, 11:54:02 AMDiddy is ridiculous. I think his down throw to up air is pretty much unavoidable, and of course most tourney level players spam the hell out of it.
A lot of characters have that at lower percents. It's like one of the few combos that can't be air dodged out of (poor ken combo :[)
On another note, my mom got me two more amiibos for not flunking out of college my first semester. As a chain reaction, I've inadvertently gotten sucked up into collecting the rest of them.
Pls halp
I bought the Luigi amiibo because what the fuck look at that dorky figurine. It's really well made and I can easily see the appeal of even just collecting them. I'll test it out in game soon ^.^
Quote from: SlowPokemon on December 27, 2014, 01:07:12 PMI bought the Luigi amiibo because what the fuck look at that dorky figurine. It's really well made and I can easily see the appeal of even just collecting them. I'll test it out in game soon ^.^
I'm having fun with the in-game features so far. I haven't tried them in Hyrule Warriors or Mario Kart 8 yet tho.
I really like to use pac man so far. It's nice that he's got 2 recovery moves :D
Well I went and started amiibo hunting today, since I had a little extra Christmas money. I got to Target and saw Luigi and Zelda, which were the only ones of those kinds left on the shelf, and I got them immediately. Since I was limiting my spending, I only allowed myself to get 2. Then later on, I took a look around gamestop. The first three I saw there were Pit, Captain Falcon, and Little Mac. ;-;
online
we should have nsm tournaments.
I'm down with that.
I've actually been meaning to organize something like that.
can we have handicaps
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Sumper Snash Tros.
who wants to smash me up
just send NeurokCommando a friend request and you can laugh at my awful lack of understanding of this game
We're talking about the Wii u version, right?
...but I don't have a wii-u :[
Quote from: Dude on December 29, 2014, 06:46:35 PMWe're talking about the Wii u version, right?
No melee
ya for wii u
Everyone who wants to sm4sh (wii U style) should go to le tinychat
Just destroyed NoS in smash. Does anyone else wish to challenge me?
Quote from: Dudeman on December 29, 2014, 09:29:56 PMJust destroyed NoS in smash. Does anyone else wish to challenge me?
do you have the 3DS version?
Hey I got u once
...yeah...
But that was early on! On Battlefield!
Quote from: FireArrow on December 29, 2014, 09:30:53 PMdo you have the 3DS version?
WiiU. Sorry :/
y must i be so lonely
So the tourney should be Little Mac, Side-B's only, Palutena's Teample.
Y/Y?
also only wear the green wireframe mac with pink hoodie
Can I use my mii
Does anyone need a brand new Captain Falcon?
I thought we had a deal shadowkirby :(
Quote from: K-NiGhT on December 30, 2014, 06:17:19 PMI thought we had a deal shadowkirby :(
You do have a deal, but shadowkirby likes to make extra money on the side, so he bought multiple captain falcons to sell to people.
before I go to bed for the night does anyone want to smash other than dudeman
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=smash (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=smash)
definition 8
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on December 30, 2014, 09:24:34 PMbefore I go to bed for the night does anyone want to smash other than dudeman
do you have 3DS?
pls
say
yes
;-;
NO
BUT I MIGHT HAVE TO GET IT BECAUSE THERE ARE ACTUALLY GOOD REASONS TO HAVE BOTH :(
i shall go and sit in my lonely 3ds corner
i cri erry time
That's what you get for owning an inferior version.
its probably because im an inferior person
;-;
It's ok, I am inferior, as well (actually, I have a 2DS, so I guess that makes me double inferior)
We should play sometime! I'm just not really free until thursday is all
I have 3DS
yay
relate
Quote from: MaestroUGC on December 30, 2014, 09:44:45 PMThat's what you get for owning an inferior version.
Personally, I think it's the superior version. Nuff said.
I have the 3DS version but the Wii U is infinitely better so I don't really plan on playing the 3DS one ever again
Quote from: SlowPokemon on December 31, 2014, 12:42:29 PMI have the 3DS version but the Wii U is infinitely better so I don't really plan on playing the 3DS one ever again
^This
Yeah I pretty much got the 3DS version for the CD and Mewtwo tbh. I'll still play it on the go occasionally tho
I never got the 3DS version because I knew I wouldn't play it ever since I knew the Wii U version would be superior in all ways.
I only got it because impatience.
Really? Wow, I must be weird then... I'd play the Wii U one if I had friends over and they wanted to play Smash, but that's about it. I much prefer the portability of the 3DS over the beautiful-ness of the Wii U, but yeah...
That reminds me, is the connection for online stuff better on the Wii U version? Not that I can ever play online, but I'm curious! ^^
As long as you don't try to play with four people I've found it works just fine for the most part.
The 3DS game is great for playing smash wherever, which is the reason it appealed to me :P
Obviously if you want to play with friends you dont want to all be sitting around with a bunch of 3DS rather than in front of a TV with controllers, but that's a totally different scenario from what I see as the expected use of the portable game.
I'm ready to sm4sh some stuff right now
also I'll be waiting in tinychat
Oh yeah send me friend requests too, I need those
I was just about to post that video xD That is so great!
So who wants to go into team battle in for glory with me
MY BROTHER INSISTS ON BEING NAKED SHULK EVERY TIME HES SHULK AND WHY DOES THAT COSTUME EXIST LMAO???
There's underwear alts for everyone in Xenoblade lmao, it's just a reference to that
ITS SO GREAT ALSO NOW I CANT WAIT TO PLAY XENOBLADE
Although apparently naked shulk is actually pretty useful in game?
Some armor = underwear and it makes the stats better.
I thought you achieved swimming trunk shulk by taking off all your armor.
Nope, it's a certain type of armor I think? I'm watching an LP of it, and the let's player said that certain armor sets = underwear iirc
So I feel kinda cruel playing in For Fun, because I was just dicking around as captain fabulous and then this happened
Spoiler
(http://i.imgur.com/qCQ7XLP.jpg)
Bitches don't know how to play on gaur plains
Jeeeesus christ, I managed to get paired with one of those super good kids that has the wicked Diddy near-inescapable combo game. And then after a few matches he switched to Mario and had similarly deadly some throw leading to lots of totally inescapable at minimum 5 hit combos. Highly suspicious he had a gcn controller attached to 3DS since I can't imagine that level of control but meep
Yeah, there are quite a few things that are unavoidable once you're in it, assuming they're executed correctly
Anyways, anyone wanna fite me on 3ds
50 collective hours of smash (gameplay x participants) challenge
Does that mean if I played 12 and a half hours, along with 3 other human players in group smash, would that get me the achievement?
Also, smash run multiplayer, I heard somewhere that you get more rewards for that than single player. Does someone know the exact details?
I played with my brother in smash run and sometimes one of us would get more rewards than the other, which doesn't imply that for each reward we find running around, every player gets it.
Anyone want to play? (Wii U)
Send me a friend invite to NeurokCommando if you do
so i went amiibo hunting at the walmart near campus last night
THEY HAD MARTH, WFT, AND VILLAGER. I SHIT YOU NOT.
pics to come later
I went amiibo hunting in Melbourne. No. Freaking. Amiibos! :'( If I bought the Pikachu amiibo (they had tons of them) before...
I just discovered the most broken lock on ness
You can get like 30-40% on someone without them being able to do anything
Oh no.....
Don't tell blue.....
I was actually planning on playing ness against you
crap nooooooo
Don't worry, you can counter him with, Ness...
So mael you wanna play?
PLEASE?
My brother-
"HOLY CRAP! Luigi is OP when he wants to be!"
In 3 months, I've battled 2000 times :-[
Is there anybody who wants to test out ness' lock with me
it'll be fun
What are you talking about?
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on January 13, 2015, 01:37:49 PMYou can get like 30-40% on someone without them being able to do anything
Rosalina is also very dumb and spammy
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on January 15, 2015, 01:19:18 PMEvery projectile-based character is also very dumb and spammy
ftfy
Uh I meant how she can blow up your PK thunder
Rosalina is my favorite character and I spent a long time with her before even figuring out how to play as her, so no, I don't consider her spammy.
Well when you're against an AI who automatically knows the character 100%...
AI Shulk is awful. Never underestimate a human opponent.
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on January 15, 2015, 01:19:18 PMRosalina is also very dumb and spammy
As far as spammy characters go, rosalina is very definitively not one of them
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on January 15, 2015, 02:26:38 PMWell when you're against an AI who automatically knows the character 100%...
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Dude, AI don't know any character 100%
Idk if they even know any character 50%
Like yeah I guess they can technically use most of the moves in semi-appropriate situations, but their seeming inability to Dair alone COMPLETELY changes how they should be fought
Their complete inability to combat ledgeguarding is pretty absurd, too
Quote from: Maelstrom on January 15, 2015, 03:33:53 PMAI Shulk is awful. Never underestimate a human opponent.
Best example
Not just suicides, but his up special is SO GOOD against ledgeguarding and AI almost never uses it in that way
I've spiked AI shulk from the edge more times than I can remember
LV 9 marth is better than dude
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on January 15, 2015, 04:57:22 PMLV 9 marth is better than dude
Wow, what a caustic comment. Be a bit nicer please. :)
I also assumed that was in insult, because you can literally beat level 9 marth just by using grabs. But then I realized that Dude beat you, and you must just have no idea how to grab or stall counters effectively, which is why you think computer marth is hard, I guess...?
Either way that's pretty rude to Dude. He got quite a few more hits on me than a computer marth would.
Well I've played against both and it's not a mean comment at all :-\
I guess I must be the only person in the world who feels that AI's are much more difficult than human players
"I'm the only person in the world who--"
yes. you are the only one. the only person who has ever felt this way. good job. u win.
If you think that then you've never played somebody that is good at smash, but lv9 AI can do some hilarious things like recover from an offstage spike INSTANTLY, roll out of being spiked into the floor 1ft away, perfect shields left and right, etc.
Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on January 17, 2015, 02:29:21 PMIf you think that then you've never played somebody that is good at smash, but lv9 AI can do some hilarious things like recover from an offstage spike INSTANTLY, roll out of being spiked into the floor 1ft away, perfect shields left and right, etc.
Would you consider Jamaha good at smash? :D
I mean I've played a few people that might be better than a level 9 AI but for the most part humans are way easier to beat and I honestly don't understand how people can kill em so easy. (although I have recently started having success with the LOCK NESS MONSTER- Mael can tell you all about how that feels)
Level 9 diddy is THE WORST D:
Play for glory dude, you're sure to find better players than 9 AI pretty quickly.
I don't think I've legitimately lost (1v1) to a level 9 AI in years haha they're good at very specific things like counter and shield timing, but their air game is weak at best, and they have no idea how to avoid being ledgeguarded (also they use their up specials WAAAAY too leniently, and open themselves up to punishes way too frequently with that).
Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on January 17, 2015, 02:29:21 PMIf you think that then you've never played somebody that is good at smash, but lv9 AI can do some hilarious things like recover from an offstage spike INSTANTLY, roll out of being spiked into the floor 1ft away, perfect shields left and right, etc.
also they can just about always air dodge any aerials you try on them
Unless, of course, you approach quickly and/or from the bottom, or just stall it haha
In other news,
GUYS I'M FINALLY BETTER THAN BOTH OF MY OLDER BROTHERS AND MY LIFE IS COMPLETE
Yea they just do the expected air dodge when an aerial would hit. They are weak to a stalled aerial, but that requires patience when you just want to jump up there and smack them silly.
in my experiences with level 9 AI, the air dodge comes only when I actually do an aerial. I can get right on top of an opponent and feign an attack with an air dodge and nothing happens, and even when i try to confuse the AI and delay the attack they still manage to dodge perfectly.
I really wish this game had a story mode, just based off of the stuff going on in the movies
Using ness' broken combo I was able to beat level 9 Mario luigi and peach after a couple of tries!
on to bowser
fyi, I warm up by playing a few matches against random lvl 9 cpus
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on January 19, 2015, 10:59:07 AMUsing ness' broken combo I was able to beat level 9 Mario luigi and peach after a couple of tries!
on to bowser
I kinda want to fight you online sometime to test that lock.
Quote from: Dudeman on January 19, 2015, 11:08:12 AMI kinda want to fight you online sometime to test that lock.
I used it to beat maelstrom cause I wanted a guaranteed win :P
I still don't think it's unbeatable. X)
Get online right now bro
Bro thought you were actually gonna try the lock lol
We did. I found out how to counter it. XD
ALSO THAT LAST STOCK
Dude I bounced off the wall not my fault
EDIT: Yeah play a champ without projectile blocks
sheesh
just played the worst diddy player ever online today.
didn't even use dthrow to uair
what a nub
Mario continues to be my favorite character to do grab combos with
Just because it's so difficult to mess up, so the other player doesn't even get the solace of "Oh wow this player's really good at timing", more just "HOW MANY TIMES CAN YOU SPAM UP TILT FUCK"
spamming up tilt seems to be a whole metagame because so many characters have that option ;P Mario, Luigi, Lucario, Sheik, etc xD
it seems dudeman is physically unable to play any character other than rob, who has a broken projectile block
NoS... what?
Also what the hells is this nesslock? Spamming PK-Fire? (smash DI exists yo.)
Quote from: K-NiGhT on January 19, 2015, 04:56:52 PMspamming up tilt seems to be a whole metagame because so many characters have that option ;P Mario, Luigi, Lucario, Sheik, etc xD
Lol yep. Disabling up jump is basically the best thing you can do for yourself
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on January 19, 2015, 05:07:40 PMit seems dudeman is physically unable to play any character other than rob, who has a broken projectile block
Tbh the window on his projectile block isn't all that big. You have to time it right, and even if you do, it can still leave you vulnerable to a punish afterwards, depending on the projectile.
Quote from: FireArrow on January 19, 2015, 05:21:14 PMNoS... what?
Also what the hells is this nesslock? Spamming PK-Fire? (smash DI exists yo.)
I'm gonna assume it has something to do with his forward air, for which yeah DI still exists
Basically, his entire strategy while playing against me was spam PK fire and follow up with a grab. I just stank at punishing after I rolled out of it backwards.
PK fire (especially while airborne) usually disables them for a couple frames (longer while airborne); if you're right next to them (which happened quite a bit with mael when he missed backslash lol) you can follow up with a grab, punch em a few times, then down throw before they can get out of the grab, then hit them with a PK thunder while they can't move from the down throw. When all is said and done you've got the damage from PK fire while damage from smacking +damage from down throw + a few pk thunders on em and usually they can't get out of it. It works better with heavier characters also.
I was hoping dudeman would try out the lock but he didn't want to apparently (also when he played captain fabulous I rekt him :P )
Quote from: FierceDeity on January 19, 2015, 05:27:03 PMLol yep. Disabling up jump is basically the best thing you can do for yourself
I tried that a while ago, but for some reason I couldn't get the hang of it. I'm super used to using it, and i can usually pull off an up-tilt without difficulty. My problem is getting smashes instead of tilts :P
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on January 19, 2015, 05:53:40 PMI was hoping dudeman would try out the lock but he didn't want to apparently
WE DID. That first match where you beat me, I waited around on my first stock assuming you would do the lock. You did. PK Fire to grab to pummel to down throw to PK Thunder. After I learned it I practiced getting around it. DI's for dayzzz.
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on January 19, 2015, 05:53:40 PM(also when he played captain fabulous I rekt him :P )
Rekt? Ohhhhhhh what a joke. If you define rekt as playing as Duck Hunt and ONLY ROLLING BACK AND FORTH ACROSS FINAL DESTINATION WHILE SPAMMING THE HELL OUT OF YOUR SIDE- AND NEUTRAL-SPECIALS, then yes. I got rekt.
Learn to not spam. It's not fun. It doesn't feel like a challenge. It's just hella annoying. That match with Bowser Jr. nearly did it for me. God, that was dumb.
Oy the bowser jr match was me trying to make the jump on my bowser kart for 2 stocks!
And that was my first time playing duck hunt trio lol I only had time to figure out what those 2 moves did before you chose your character.
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on January 19, 2015, 05:53:40 PMPK fire (especially while airborne) usually disables them for a couple frames (longer while airborne); if you're right next to them (which happened quite a bit with mael when he missed backslash lol) you can follow up with a grab, punch em a few times, then down throw before they can get out of the grab, then hit them with a PK thunder while they can't move from the down throw. When all is said and done you've got the damage from PK fire while damage from smacking +damage from down throw + a few pk thunders on em and usually they can't get out of it. It works better with heavier characters also.
I was hoping dudeman would try out the lock but he didn't want to apparently (also when he played captain fabulous I rekt him :P )
Lol no yeah, directional influence kinda pokes some major holes in this strat. I just tried it against a few people in for glory to be sure, and even against a bad Ike, it was still pretty ineffective (despite kicking their ass, regardless). Also, I'm having a really hard time seeing how PK thunder could ever be a part of a true combo; horizontal knockback on his dthrow is far too high for it to reach them before they can air dodge it. (A much better combo is short hopping into his forward air)
Quote from: K-NiGhT on January 19, 2015, 06:09:55 PMI tried that a while ago, but for some reason I couldn't get the hang of it. I'm super used to using it, and i can usually pull off an up-tilt without difficulty. My problem is getting smashes instead of tilts :P
That setting kinda solved that issue for me, too; without worrying about accidentally jumping, it's a lot simpler to just tap A rather than accidentally holding over, imo. Then again, I never used up to jump in the first place, so meh
Quote from: Dudeman on January 19, 2015, 06:36:36 PMWE DID. That first match where you beat me, I waited around on my first stock assuming you would do the lock. You did. PK Fire to grab to pummel to down throw to PK Thunder. After I learned it I practiced getting around it. DI's for dayzzz.Rekt? Ohhhhhhh what a joke. If you define rekt as playing as Duck Hunt and ONLY ROLLING BACK AND FORTH ACROSS FINAL DESTINATION WHILE SPAMMING THE HELL OUT OF YOUR SIDE- AND NEUTRAL-SPECIALS, then yes. I got rekt.
Learn to not spam. It's not fun. It doesn't feel like a challenge. It's just hella annoying. That match with Bowser Jr. nearly did it for me. God, that was dumb.
Granted, succumbing to spam is almost as bad as resorting to it...not quite, but almost :P
But yeah, playing a match oversaturated with spam is no fun, win or lose. Shame on you, noc.
isn't spam a relative term
Is it easier to DI to the side or up out of PK Fire? Does anyone know?
Depends where you're hit, but up is typically easier to avoid grab with, side is easier to avoid further fire damage with.
imo it worked pretty successfully against maelstrom
Rule of thumb: Just because it works against one person does not make it a legitimate combo.
it worked against other people too but I got mael with it almost every time
usually with other people it took several tries
Also I'm still stuck on level 9 yoshi
I got close but then he got me trapped in an egg and smashed me right when I popped out
If a combo takes several tries to get off, guess what that says about it
Also, hey why don't you try ness's PK fire grab combo on yoshi i heard it's really good
Trust me. Yoshi is a truly annoying character, not to mention one of the harder lvl 9 CPUs. I don't know why I don't see more posts complaining about him....
Quote from: FierceDeity on January 19, 2015, 07:17:44 PMIf a combo takes several tries to get off, guess what that says about it
Also, hey why don't you try ness's PK fire grab combo on yoshi i heard it's really good
that's how I got him past 100% in the first place
Yoshi is annoying, but I wouldn't say he's worth complaining about.
Lol I wouldn't say any CPU character is worth complaining about
but maybe that's a bit too dickish of me
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on January 19, 2015, 07:19:28 PMthat's how I got him past 100% in the first place
dude if you're able to get a grab off, just do a back throw, ness's is such a great finisher
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on January 19, 2015, 07:19:28 PMthat's how I got him past 100% in the first place
Ok ok, this talk is really starting to annoy me.
1. It's not a lock.
2. It's not even a combo, you can air dodge it.
3. If you're opponent is bad and can't dodge, just go for - PK-fire --> DThrow --> Fair --> Dair.
Doing this combo is like using a dash attack on jigglypuff after rest. If your opponent is bad enough to let it happen, you may as well do something more than A FREAKING PK THUNDER.
Fierce pls teach me da ways of being good at Ultra Fight Sisters Fisticuffs
*airhorn sounds*
Quote from: FierceDeity on January 19, 2015, 07:22:54 PMdude if you're able to get a grab off, just do a back throw, ness's is such a great finisher
Kill throws are overrated. 100% will only kill if you're near the edge (or it's a little mac...)
Deadly up-throws though... god I miss mewtwo and N64 kirby.
Quote from: FierceDeity on January 19, 2015, 07:22:54 PMLol I wouldn't say any CPU character is worth complaining about
but maybe that's a bit too dickish of me
:/
Quote from: K-NiGhT on January 19, 2015, 07:25:41 PMFierce pls teach me da ways of being good at Ultra Fight Sisters Fisticuffs
Alright guys
Welcome to fierce's school for gittin gud, for the gittin gud impaired
First, I want you to repeat after me: Fox only, final destination, no items
Second, I don't care how well your opponent is doing, if there using anything but a gamecube controller, their a fukin scrub
yes that was intentionalThird, if you do anything even remotely impressive, you are morally obligated to taunt
Fourth, the tier list is law, so I don't care how well your opponent is doing, if their using any character below upper middle tier (or fox because GODDAMNIT KEVIN I SAID FOX ONLY), thair a fukin scrub
And finally, if you ever beat somebody, regardless of the circumstances, it means thayr a fukin scrub (if they beat you later it's probably a fluke)
There you go, folks. That's it. That's all you need to know to git gud. They're are no other secrets.
Can I nominate Fierce for the "Most Smash" superlative?
Also, I now really want to fight you. I need to see if you're really that good. #shotsfired
sorry dudeman :( i accidentally clicked not now or something idk
Quote from: Dudeman on January 19, 2015, 07:56:03 PMCan I nominate Fierce for the "Most Smash" superlative?
He has to win the tournament first >: )
anyone want to fight me?
If you win you're a nolife who wastes too much time on a video game and if you lose you're a scrub who lost to me of all people.
this is why people get mad at you
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on January 19, 2015, 11:55:51 PManyone want to fight me?
If you win you're a nolife who wastes too much time on a video game and if you lose you're a scrub who lost to me of all people.
I have taught you well
Quote from: K-NiGhT on January 20, 2015, 12:45:05 AMthis is why people get mad at you
You, however, must stay after class for a refresher on rule 5.
also on sarcasm
Quote from: K-NiGhT on January 20, 2015, 12:45:05 AMthis is why people get mad at you
lol youmad?
scruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuub
could probably still kick your butt ;)
Fierce forgot the most important rule of smash4:
If you lose, counter pick with little mac!
That's how you win the "Most Definitely a Little Bitch" award
Quote from: K-NiGhT on January 20, 2015, 01:00:04 AMcould probably still kick your butt ;)
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on January 19, 2015, 11:55:51 PMyou're a nolife who wastes too much time on a video game
:^) but sure, let's go! Send me a request at NeurokCommando, I got a few minutes :P
Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on January 20, 2015, 01:18:12 AMThat's how you win the "Most Definitely a Little Bitch" award
lol
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on January 20, 2015, 01:31:18 AM:^) but sure, let's go! Send me a request at NeurokCommando, I got a few minutes :Plol
well not right now of course! it's almost 4 AM, silly. We'll fight another day.
scruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuub
you're CHICKEN
nah, i just don't need to prove myself to someone like you ;)
Is it nearly dawn?
I think I hear a rooster crowing!
how to be obnoxious: a guide by nocturne
step 1: greninja is worst fighter bc it's not gen 1-3
step 2: lucario is close but at least it's kind of old
Quote from: Nebbles on January 20, 2015, 03:16:03 AMhow to be obnoxious: a guide by nocturne
NY Times Bestseller
In any case, not sure why you needed to fight me so late last night but I'd be more able to fight today.
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on January 20, 2015, 01:46:20 AMIs it nearly dawn?
I think I hear a rooster crowing!
You go up against me in a chickens-only match and see how well you do
Quote from: blueflower999 on January 20, 2015, 09:54:22 AMYou go up against me in a chickens-only match and see how well you do
NO. DON'T DO IT.
Quote from: blueflower999 on January 20, 2015, 09:54:22 AMYou go up against me in a chickens-only match and see how well you do
iirc I won lol
although it was close :P
wtf why amazon? Why remove all your amiibo listings?
Quote from: Maelstrom on January 20, 2015, 11:30:59 AMwtf why amazon? Why remove all your amiibo listings?
what are you talking about lol
double post but does anyone want to do a little smashin tonight?
Quote from: K-NiGhT on January 20, 2015, 12:38:15 PMwhat are you talking about lol
All the amiibo pages completely disappeared without a trace. except for Fox, Zelda, and Toon Link , but it looks like they're back now.
Quote from: Dudeman on January 19, 2015, 07:56:03 PMAlso, I now really want to fight you. I need to see if you're really that good. #shotsfired
If you have it on 3DS, sure lol
If not, I suppose you can just ask jamaha how good I am ;)
fierce you gonna get the wii u version?
Once I'm not about to leave the country for a couple months/unable to store anything at school which is currently across the country from me sure haha
fair enough
Knight, I'll go!
Also my store has the following amiibos:
In stock:
Mario
Pikachu
Link
Donkey Kong
Kirby
Samus
Out of stock: (one of my buddies in electronics will let me know when they're back in
Yoshi
Fox
Marth
Villager
Wii Fit Trainer
Had a decent match with Nocturne. His Toon Link is pretty decent, but most of his kills were just me SD'ing bcoz lucario insists that Up-B means go straight down even tho i'm obvi at a 45 degree angle upward. Did manage to get his Ness to final stock and well within kill range before getting KO'd, then SD'ing, but I still actually won that one. 3rd match was cut short due to a phone call from my dearest mother of course but it was still a good match.
TL;DR: Nocturne is a little better than we give him credit for (when he uses Toon Link)
No shush I'm bad
can't beat level 9 cpus
K-night have I taught you nothing, when you beat him you're supposed to call him a fukin scrub
And when he beats you, it's a fluke
Quote from: FierceDeity on January 20, 2015, 07:37:20 PMhave I taught you nothing, when you beat him you're supposed to call him a fukin scrub
And when he beats you, it's a fluke
oh don't worry I called him a scrub alright
Quote from: FierceDeity on January 20, 2015, 07:37:20 PMK-night have I taught you nothing, when you beat him you're supposed to call him a fukin scrub
And when he beats you, it's a fluke
sorry i guess i need to keep training under you Fierce-senpai
So if I want to be good at smash, I should act like this guy?
What is ledgeguarding, how do I do it, and why should I do it?
What is a tilt, how do I do it, and why should I do it?
What is a meteor smash, how do I do it, and why should I do it?
Youtube is terrible at explaining these things.
Wait.... You don't know that stuff?
Check Smashboards.
Well i don't think you have to worry about ledgeguarding, since that's not in Smash 4. Tilts are just basic inputs that you probably do anyway. Meteor smashes are moves that some characters can do that send the opponent down ridiculously fast.
tilt is when you learn the control stick in some direction and hit attack button, but not simultaneous to cause a smash attack. Go in training mode and it will quickly become clear. Meteor smash is the effect certain attacks have (mario's spike, captain falcon down aerial and up-tilt, marth down aerial, etc) that cause characters to 'smash' downwards, either hitting the ground as if being knocked down (unless you can dodge out of it that fast) or usually being an instant kill if offstage (at a high enough percentage) due to the speed at which it launches you downward.
does toon link have a meteor smash?
Everyone does, I think.
http://www.ssbwiki.com/Meteor_smash
Specifically http://www.ssbwiki.com/List_of_meteor_smashes_(SSB4)
QuoteToon Link
Down aerial - At the tip of the blade during the first few frames of the move.
You need a crash course in Googling bro
Yeah I might
because I literally couldn't find anything
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=meteor+smash
I was talking about toon link specifics there.
Also lmgtfy saves lives
The third link is "list of meteor smashes", which would obviously contain that of toon link. I guess reading comprehension is required too ._.
Oh yeah, I'm pretty sure noc's question about ledgeguarding came from my using the term, so let me clarify
"Ledge guarding" used to refer to grabbing onto a ledge so that an opponent couldn't, and if they can't hit you off or land onstage when coming from offstage, they fall embarrassingly to their deaths. But since that no longer happens in ssb4 (now that you can steal ledges from another player), I typically now use it to refer to guarding ledges with attacks in a general sense, especially with moves like Captain Falcon's up and down tilts, and Little Mac's down smash. Not sure if there's a better term for that.
And yeah, a meteor smash (also known as a spike) offstage from ground level or below (on most stages, depends on the height I guess) will be an auto-death for all characters at or above I wanna say 50% damage or so? You'll frequently get kills far below that, but some characters have bamf recovery moves that make it impossible to kill them with it unless you can hit them directly offscreen before they can perform actions again.
As for why you should use it, if you have the opportunity to kill somebody at such a low percentage, you should take it, if that wasn't already clear lol
And yeah Toon Link has a meteor smash but it's pretty risky imo, because it's pretty easy to predict and air dodge a lot of the time, and missing your down air offstage is kinda gonna fuck you over
As far as I'm aware, these are the only characters without meteor smashes:
-Jigglypuff
-Fox, without custom moves
-Wario, without final smash
-Dr. Mario (though his back air is a decent semi-spike)
-Little Mac without final smash or custom moves (not that an aerial spike would be all that useful)
-Pac-Man without custom moves
-idk about mewtwo
And I don't think I have anything to add to these guys' explanation of tilts.
Example of all three in one sentence:
If you hit somebody just right by ledgeguarding with Captain Falcon's up tilt, you'll get a meteor smash.
ok!
one more question: Is there anybody who hasn't put in their smash 3ds code yet who wants mewtwo?
Quote from: FierceDeity on January 21, 2015, 09:18:06 PMOh yeah, I'm pretty sure noc's question about ledgeguarding came from my using the term, so let me clarify
"Ledge guarding" used to refer to grabbing onto a ledge so that an opponent couldn't, and if they can't hit you off or land onstage when coming from offstage, they fall embarrassingly to their deaths. But since that no longer happens in ssb4 (now that you can steal ledges from another player), I typically now use it to refer to guarding ledges with attacks in a general sense, especially with moves like Captain Falcon's up and down tilts, and Little Mac's down smash. Not sure if there's a better term for that.
Ugh, let me be an asshole for a second and correct you.
Ledgeguarding has always referred to keeping the opponent off the stage, whether it be spamming marth's F-Smash or jumping out and knocking them away.
The word you're looking for is edgehogging, which yeah, doesn't exist anymore.
Oh wait nevermind you're right. I kinda second guessed myself because of this:
Quote from: K-NiGhT on January 21, 2015, 12:30:11 PMWell i don't think you have to worry about ledgeguarding, since that's not in Smash 4.
so I went with the whole "damage control by pretending to have been using the wrong term on purpose" thing
But then again I was never quite that sure, I suppose. The two terms are pretty similar after all haha.
And I guess technically speaking, edge hogging was a form of ledge guarding
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on January 21, 2015, 09:30:55 PMok!
one more question: Is there anybody who hasn't put in their smash 3ds code yet who wants mewtwo?
I might use it
I've come to realize I won't be getting a WiiU by the time this stops being available so yeah sure I'll do it if yugi doesn't
Whoever PMs me their registration code first gets mewtwo lol
Which amiibos are the "rare" ones
Marth and Villager, off the top of my head. Wave 3 is gonna be super rare when it releases.
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on January 21, 2015, 11:10:28 PMWhich amiibos are the "rare" ones
Marth, WFT and Villager are reffered to as the "holy trinity."
As of now, CF, Pit, and Little Mac
All the retailer exclusives in wave 3 will be incredibly rare. And everything else. :P
I don't know if this is true yet or not, but here:
http://i.imgur.com/F9HPEnm.jpg
Pretty sure this is false, due to the fact that it looks like a shitty word document that anyone could have typed up, and the fact that I'm pretty sure Nintendo has stated that the wave is going to be released on the 1st.
So like if you register both games does mewtwo just appear in both of them or what
(also whoever gives it to me I'll probably figure out a way to send you the OST after I've copied it onto my laptop)
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on January 22, 2015, 12:07:07 PMSo like if you register both games does mewtwo just appear in both of them or what
(also whoever gives it to me I'll probably figure out a way to send you the OST after I've copied it onto my laptop)
it's DLC, which means you'll have to download it from online of course. It doesn't come out until sometime in the spring
also you may have missed the deadline
Oh shoot I did :X
I really like smash 4's music :/
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on January 22, 2015, 12:12:57 PMI really like smash 4's music :/
Wait, what. It wasn't THAT good.
Better than brawls
but melee is better than both
Brawl's main theme was one of the few good things about it lol. I do like a lot of Smash music tho.
the people I like to use generally include mii swordfighter/villager/G&W/olimar and maybe toonlink/peach and lucario on occasion
i like the music from all the games, idk
I really like Question Mark Man/Woman.
Lucario is probably my best character, but I'm also decent with Yoshi, Pikachu, Fox, Samus, and Mario. I've been working on learning Sheik, and my Sonic game is improving a bit, too. I also found out today that I might be learning how to style with Captain Falcon through osmosis lol.
I can play Toon Link ;D
I'm learning how to play Samus though so that I have a character with a bit more OOMPH and less "annoying little child running around"
i've heard samus is good which is why i'm starting to play her a little.
I just got a Samus amiibo. One of the feet was not glued in properly and she keeps leaning forward. :P
Couldn't you just take off the figure with force, maybe glue something else on just to confuse people? It might be a waste of money, I suppose, but it should still work.
Quote from: Jub3r7 on January 22, 2015, 02:29:55 PMCouldn't you just take off the figure with force, maybe glue something else on just to confuse people? It might be a waste of money, I suppose, but it should still work.
Pics:
Spoiler
http://i.imgur.com/ZBRtzT8.jpg
Spoiler
http://i.imgur.com/My9SQvL.jpg
Warning, camera takes high rez pics despite my insistence.
edit: removed the image tag for ease of viewing.
K-Night is really good at this game and really fun to play against. :D
K-NiGhT fight me someday ;_;
Quote from: blueflower999 on January 22, 2015, 03:06:39 PMK-Night is really good at this game and really fun to play against. :D
Yes, he is fun to play against as long as he isn't spamming his counterattack :D
Quote from: blueflower999 on January 22, 2015, 03:06:39 PMK-Night is really good at this game and really fun to play against. :D
oh, stop it you :3 i'm kinda in a weird middle stage right now as far as skill goes. my friends don't like to play against me because i win a lot, but i'm certain that if i ever go to a tournament i'll get totally railed lol.
Quote from: Dudeman on January 22, 2015, 03:36:58 PMK-NiGhT fight me someday ;_;
fite me rite now m8 (seriously tho i'm bored lol)
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on January 22, 2015, 07:25:29 PMYes, he is fun to play against as long as he isn't spamming his counterattack :D
don't get all high and mighty on me now. i seem to remember you doing a lot of the same stuff in our match, too.
which is why it was easy to use double team on you
Quote from: SlowPokemon on January 22, 2015, 07:56:53 PMActually, yes it was.
I really feel like there were quite a few (read: most of them) lackluster arrangements that were more like re-skins than arrangements. Maybe I'm just mad because the Xenoblade remix was absolutely terrible.
It's not spamming if you spam multiple moves at once though
But if Dudeman K night and co are playing I'd better hop on for a bit lol
not sure if dudeman got the memo, but i've got a room open if ya want nocturne
having a decent set with nocturne right now, but man you really need to do something other than charge shot and roll
CANNON CAMPERS
BEST STAGE I EVER MADE
PSA: if you're playing with nocturne, make sure custom stages are turned off.
OKAY WHOEVER CHANGED THE RATIO IS NOT COOL
That was a fun set, guys :D
Yeah haha
even if I lost most of them ;D
I really liked that custom stage with the cannons and springs, guessing it was maestro's?
So today I've found that Ness is a horrible match up for me in general, no matter what character I seem to use. Any tips, Fierce?
Hmm
Well, character-wise, Mario and Falco are great because they can counter PK fire without much punishment for bad predictions. You'd just have to use your own projectiles sparingly.
Other than that, it kinda depends. What's your biggest challenge with it?
I can't play against captain falcon
he's too fast
Quote from: FierceDeity on January 23, 2015, 11:14:49 AMHmm
Well, character-wise, Mario and Falco are great because they can counter PK fire without much punishment for bad predictions. You'd just have to use your own projectiles sparingly.
Other than that, it kinda depends. What's your biggest challenge with it?
Well for starters i'm not that great with advanced tech yet, so that's always a problem. As far as ness goes, I'm having a hard time getting around him. His grab game is crazy strong, and his airs are pretty good, not to mention he has a lot of zoning options with his specials. I've found that Yoshi and Lucina work slightly well against him, but I still can't even beat the level 9 CPU cuz the reflexes the AI has are kinda ridiculous.
I might get online for some tonight in like 4 or 5 hours if anyone wants to make a room (are there 8 man online smashes?)
Quote from: K-NiGhT on January 23, 2015, 11:42:35 AMWell for starters i'm not that great with advanced tech yet, so that's always a problem. As far as ness goes, I'm having a hard time getting around him. His grab game is crazy strong, and his airs are pretty good, not to mention he has a lot of zoning options with his specials. I've found that Yoshi and Lucina work slightly well against him, but I still can't even beat the level 9 CPU cuz the reflexes the AI has are kinda ridiculous.
Ness has a great back throw, but other than that his grab game isn't anything special. Scrubby ness players just have a tendency to spam grabs with him. The best way to circumnavigate grabs is to get better at spot dodging. Use rolls sparingly because they become predictable really quickly. Spot dodge --> your own grab for lulz.
His specials really aren't that amazing either. PK fire is low to the ground, so short-hopped aerials basically destroy him (remember to empty hop if they put up a shield!) PK cross and thunder are non-issues and basically give you a free punish.
It's PK Flash, there is no PK Cross ;)
if its cross in melee
its cross
;-;
But it was flash in melee?
Yeah PK Cross sounds like something K-Night would make up for an EarthBound fanfic.
HAHAHAHA JOKES
I thought it was PK Spark in Melee/Brawl...
I'm pretty sure it was pk cross?
http://smashboards.com/threads/pk-cross-pk-flash.175166/ (http://smashboards.com/threads/pk-cross-pk-flash.175166/)
oh, ok then
.-.
http://www.ssbwiki.com/PK_Flash
QuoteDue to Ness's accent, many players mishear "PK Flash" as any of a variety of phrases, such as "PK Pulse" and "PK Cross", as the final "sh" sound is quieter than the rest of the yell. However, when Kirby copies Ness, he clearly says "PK Flash" when he uses it. In Super Smash Bros 4, due to Ness's new voice, PK Flash is now heard correctly.
I'll be smashin' for a while if anyone wants to fight me. Miiverse message me if you want to.
goin online!
I'm happy that I found my Melee disc yesterday after an hour of scavenging. Also unlocked Mewtwo and G&W on it!
No matter how much i practice with lucario, i will never get used to controlling that up-b.
You were doing really well with Lucario. I'm impressed!
Great set with Dudeman! Never thought I'd have to practice against a R.O.B match up but it looks like I have a new thing to work on xD
Yeah XD I'm occasionally scared of my own R.O.B. skills, but I wasn't playing my best today. Not enough grabs.
Take a shot every time we tried to grab each other for five full seconds.
man i gotta go to class tomorrow i don't have time to be that drunk
We got an update today! New 8 player stage variants, basically.
I still have no idea how a game can get updated
what if you don't have internet, does your game still get an update?
Absolutely not.
Hey so Fierce if you haven't registered your Smash for 3DS do you wanna PM me the registration code?
My Shulk game is improving and it's making me really happy. He's so much fun to use.
>:(
Quote from: Nebbles on January 30, 2015, 02:27:32 PMMy Shulk game is improving and it's making me really happy. He's so much fun to use.
(insert overused joke related to Shulk about feeling something)
har har
But nah, Shulk's great. Easily my favorite Newcomer.
Rosalina is in stock at target.com Better hurry....
QuoteShulk:
- He cannot escape at any percent.
****
Quote from: Maelstrom on February 01, 2015, 09:08:07 AMRosalina is in stock at target.com Better hurry....
...they're not even on the website any more last time I checked. ;_;
February fools day??
Quote from: Nebbles on February 04, 2015, 07:45:44 PM...they're not even on the website any more last time I checked. ;_;
It was in stock when I posted it. They have since removed the page.
rip
Oh my. I just got annihilated by an Level 9 Ike 20 times in a row.
He just dodged all of my attacks and I couldn't dodge his attacks, he countered and my counter never worked, and he did like 50 damage in two hits. How can I get better at this game? What should I practice?
And has Ike gotten a lot better, or is it just me?
Just remember, CPUs can perfect shield and flawlessly airdoge, which most humans can't.
Anyway, spacing. He's slow. Take advantage of that. He hits hard, but not necessarily fast. Take advantage of that. Hit him with ranged attacks and only counter when it's something like a smash attack he HAS to commit to and comes out slowly. You can easily outrun him with just about anybody. And use grabs and airs.
edit: those two attacks were definitely smashes. Don't be afraid to use them if he is not in a position to counter.
Sakurai comfirmed only M2 dlc. Nothing else. And Nintendo is not that big of a Ubisoft fan atm..
Yeah but earlier there was a video of Rayman on the character select screen that got taken down. I'm not sure what that means.
I think we know what it means. At least I know why we got a Rayman trophy now.
Yeah, I seem to remember there being a direct or some such thing where they made a big deal about the Rayman trophy and everyone wondered about Rayman being a playable character. It doesn't seem too far out of the realm of possibility, but like Mael said with Ubisoft's shaky relationship with Nintendo, it does seem like a stretch.
bro
the question is
will he be able to shoot toilet plungers
Leaks proven fake :P
I played Smash semi-drunk last night and I was still able to win. I am to be feared.
crummy
Quote from: Nebbles on February 15, 2015, 11:46:31 AMI played Smash semi-drunk last night and I was still able to win. I am to be feared.
Define semi.
Uhhh moving too fast gave me a major head rush and I was ridiculously giggly, but I was still good other than that. I was a little worse off at Mario Party where I lost every single mini game.
Oh haha. So you weren't actually drinking. Silly me :P
no, that's exactly what being buzzed is so... Yeaaah
I know haha
...then why did you say she wasn't drinking?
She was still drinking, MLF. Haha
I know what buzzed means lol.
That's ok.
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What's wrong with you Europe
YEAH AUSTRALIA! YEAH! ;D
Looks like Australia doesn't like Captain Falcon...good I want him
Is Mew2King famous?
Yes.
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on February 18, 2015, 05:39:16 PMIs Mew2King famous?
Some might call him the best Smash Bros player ever. Others might say Mang0 or Hungrybox though.
Naw, I don't think anyone would say Hungrybox.
I've seen him play. He's really good. Won quite a few major tournaments.
Quote from: blueflower999 on February 18, 2015, 06:14:57 PMSome might call him the best Smash Bros player ever. Others might say Mang0 or Hungrybox though.
well someone from facebook said there was going to be a MN regional tournament and Mew2King was rumored to be attending
Anyone wanna play some matches?
If anyone wants the Toon Link amiibo, the time is now. It's up on amazon and it has been for a bit. Apparently they got a ton in.
or I can drive to my store and buy one
which I did
but I didn't open it
because I don't think I even want it
It won't be anywhere near as insane when the port strikes end.
I can't wait.
https://sourcegaming.wordpress.com/2015/02/19/perception-of-smash-dlc-in-japan/
A pretty interesting read.
Rejoice, Don! K. Rool is the highest ranked newcomer!
jaysus why would people ever want pichu back
obviously it would be a competent pichu
Poll invalid. No tingle.
^That's just what my day needed. Someone fapping into a microphone.
is mew2king a cool guy or is he a jerk
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on February 21, 2015, 08:42:42 PMis mew2king a cool guy or is he a jerk
Just watch this...
Also, this story:
Quote from: runner5678I've met Jason twice, both were this past summer. The first was a local tournament where he nair shined my Young Link until it was dead. I didn't even know what a buffer roll was so that was curtains.
The second time was a Pittsburgh tournament. I wasn't planning on going but Jason called up a friend of mine needing a ride. My friend's car is an old two-toned clunker with fuzzy dice on the mirror but she was strong enough for the journey so we decided to take up Jason's offer and we were going to Pitt. Pretty much the whole time M2K sat in the passenger seat, knees to his chest, bundled in a blanket talking smash. Exactly what you'd expect. He was friendly and the more we all talked as a group the topics would start to change to video games and music and food and other stuff. We had just finished talking about Sephiroth and how he has the most badass theme song in the history of bad dudes and then there was a some of silence. What happened next is what I will forever know Jason for. He turns to my friend's fuzzy dice, and knees to his chest, bundled in his blanket, and playfully starts swatting the dice with both hands and saying "MEOW2KING!"
I will always regret not having that on video.
hm
maybe I should go meet him then
This is so accurate it is disturbing.
It's amazing how people aren't seeing these Amiibo shortages as a calculated move.
Are they not? .__. it wasn't super obvious the moment it started happening?
It's only really a shortage in the US. It's gotten to the point that there are more foreign amiibo on ebay than ones from in the country. Nintendo has acknowledged that the West Coast port strike is the reason for the NEW3DS and amiibo shortages. However, this does not affect software, as it can be flown cost-effectively. Imo, Nintendo did not intend for this to happen, but it has ended up giving them a lot of free press and hype. It is completely like Nintendo to underestimate demand.
Given their recent struggles in popularity (see Wii U launch sales), I was not surprised when Nintendo underestimated the demand. But then again, I'm not an economist or anything, so it might have been calculated. It certainly hasn't tainted Nintendo as much as I'd expect.
I didn't realize that many people were so good that they needed computers higher than level 9
(http://i.imgur.com/cHFreJA.jpg)
^^The amount of times I've gotten kills with marth by using neutral-B as an air approach and tipping them with fsmash is way too high. People get too comfortable with the fact that, against any other character (besides lucina), a max strength shield will guarantee you safety against virtually anything they decide to do when they're coming down from the air. It's honestly a pretty good strategy against characters with higher priority air game, but people don't seem to show very much discretion in when they use it.
Spoiler
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that looks cool
The problem is that I'd easily pay 13$ for something like that.
I was really, really bored so I decided to find out what songs were missing from the Club Nintendo soundtrack. Turns out, there's a lot.
In all,
62 new remixes,
24 original compositions,
and 13 new arrangements.
For a grand total of 99 missing songs, including every Megaman and Mother remix.
And I just had to write down the ost # of each.
i know :/ it was kinda disappointing
I may *eventually*copy them, but that will take a lot of time. Still stinks that so many good tracks were missed and we got two horrible Kid Icarus remixes and that Xenoblade Chronicles medley. *shudders*
Actually I will say that I enjoyed the Wrath of the Reset Bomb remix. But it's realy dumb how we get three PAC-MAN pieces, for instance, but no representation of Mega Man, EarthBound, Sonic, Dr. Mario, and a ton of other franchises. I think it would have been a better idea to start by making sure every franchise got some representation before anything else.
Wait, nvm. I thought Lightning Chariot Base and Inside the Space Pirate Ship were on it. Turns out they both have a new portion, but have a lazy reskin for the first minute, like Wrath of the Reset Bomb. I had never listened to them long enough because the first half of the song was barely discernible from the original. Let it be known that I really, really like Destroyed Skyworld. I did not mean to insult that song in any way.
And there weren't any new Sonic remixes anyway.
I was hella upset there weren't any EarthBound tracks on the Smash CD.
I was even more upset that they didn't include any of the fantastic Mega Man remixes. D:
Like seriously who asked for the online practice stage or the credits over freaking Spark Man's or Air Man's theme.
I'm also really sad that I didn't get any of the Crush 40 Sonic music ;_;
There's always the internet..............
i know but that's not the point. when we were told we'd be getting a soundtrack, I was expecting the entire soundtrack. Not a small sample of what's actually in the game.
Yeah, I was hoping for the entire OST... I'm gonna have to go and download the rest of the songs I want manually, which isn't THAT bad, but eh.
I CAN'T WAIT TO PLAY LUCAS ALSO LOOK AT THIS GUY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-zJOntZRHo
THIS GUY LOOKS DANGEROUS
I can't deal
Also they're polling to see what the next character should be
PLS ROY
Lucas. Cool.
You can also vote for future smash characters.
The way Iwata said "we heard the fans, so we decided to make Lucas" was definitely a good way to make the kiddie fans even more annoying xD I guess this means smash hype isn't over!
LUCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!
b-but.. Lucas isn't Snake
Also Nintendo has officially joined the hatconomy (http://www.smashbros.com/us/dlc/index.html)
So, where is the smash bros poll?
LUCAS YESYESYES FAVORITE CHARACTER EVER DAY MAAAAAAAAADE
gosh darn it people I can't even post cause y'all spamming
I voted for Lip because no one else will. :(
ALSO JIGGLYPUFF AMIIBO IN MAY AND BOWSER JR. COMING IN SEPTEMBER
Lucas comes out of nowhere!
.....
You don't say...
Quote from: SlowPokemon on April 01, 2015, 04:07:38 PMALSO JIGGLYPUFF AMIIBO IN MAY AND BOWSER JR. COMING IN SEPTEMBER
Olimar also confirmed
I feel like no one else got the "Lucas Comes Out Of Nowhere." Still super hyped and loving Nintendo rn..
Is he from a town called Nowhere
The town itself he's from is called Tazmily.
SEND VOTES I WANT SNAKE 2K15
Reason: A weapon to surpass Metal Gear...!
I'm writing in Ridley. Just because.
There isn't anyway you can vote for people from rare games can you?
Nvm, I was gonna vote for Banjo but voted for Goombario instead. Yes, they need a Goomba to fight in the Smash games.
Ness is a GS exclusive while Jiggly is Target exclusive.
Guess whom I am going to vote for...
Spoiler
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I really like this idea, this way everyone can have their chances. :J
Quote from: Maelstrom on April 02, 2015, 07:51:10 AMNess is a GS exclusive while Jiggly is Target exclusive.
Exclusives confuses me, like is Jigglydoodah going to be Target exclusive n Australia and Australia doesn't even have GameStop, so what happens?
There are only store exclusives in the US.
Quote from: DonValentino on April 02, 2015, 12:09:42 PMGuess whom I am going to vote for...
Spoiler
(http://i59.tinypic.com/157emuv.jpg)
I really like this idea, this way everyone can have their chances. :J
Him! We should all vote for him.
Quote from: mariolegofan on April 02, 2015, 01:10:45 PMHim! We should all vote for him.
Ahh, I wish... :)
I mean, c'mon, who else has his own campaign ad? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWTDWuAdsXE) xD
Really though. What if everyone at NSM voted for him?
That's quite a chunk.
Oh absolutely, but I'm sure everyone has their own candidates too. :J
Besides, the voting is not really restricted to one per person, so anything could happen!
Tried getting a Ness pre-order and failed. All sold out.
I voted Layton lmao
Tingle will get crapton of votes
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on April 02, 2015, 08:32:03 PMTingle will get crapton of votes
If Tingle can be in Super Snash Bros Crusade (fan made game), then he can be in SSB4!
On a more serious note, Tingle is already an assist trophy, so yeah...
I'd love Captain Toad to be in Smash Bros! Always loved Toad, so yeah. :3
Phil Spencer is up for Banjo in smash
Hype
Quote from: Maelstrom on April 03, 2015, 12:20:06 PMPhil Spencer is up for Banjo in smash
Hype
Something noteworthy indeed!
"I think it would be cool if Banjo was in the next SSB DLC. We've worked with Nintendo on Rare IP before, no issues." (https://twitter.com/XboxP3/status/584023190692737024)
The last part really shocks me though. We've worked with Nintendo on Rare IP? No issues? Well that's a surprising statement...
Quote from: DonValentino on April 03, 2015, 12:44:48 PMSomething noteworthy indeed!
"I think it would be cool if Banjo was in the next SSB DLC. We've worked with Nintendo on Rare IP before, no issues." (https://twitter.com/XboxP3/status/584023190692737024)
The last part really shocks me though. We've worked with Nintendo on Rare IP? No issues? Well that's a surprising statement...
woah :O that'd be crazy. if they're that willing to let Nintendo use Banjo tho, why have we still not seen Threeie? and there hasn't really been a Rare title oustide of Microsoft in several years if I'm not mistaken?
I had never even heard of Banjo before NSM
So if you ask me fuck the dogbear and give me someone relevant like Layton or Snake
Or Shovel Knight.
I'm not really worried at all about this because I know it'll be some stupid character that wins the ballot
Someone did a very large poll on the Nintendo reddit. Shovel Knight was in first by quite a bit with K. Rool no too far behind. Yes, it was a select-as-many-as-you-want kind of poll, if you were wondering.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on April 03, 2015, 05:47:35 PMI'm not really worried at all about this because I know it'll be some stupid character that wins the ballot
^this if these kind of "poll results" end up representing the reality
gimme dat grovyle Nintendoh
(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Q83Zi9ZhejU/maxresdefault.jpg)
Unfortunately, we already have Lucario and Greninja filling in the slot for "ninja"-esque Pokémon.
Yugi, can we change the poll to say what character do you want as DLC?
Quote from: SlowPokemon on April 03, 2015, 05:47:35 PMI'm not really worried at all about this because I know it'll be some stupid character that wins the ballot
Too true.
Quote from: AwesomeYears on April 03, 2015, 06:16:12 PMYugi, can we change the poll to say what character do you want as DLC?
Hi.
I really have no clue who I want...
0/10 didn't put Isaac in the poll.
ICE CLIMBERS ;__;
I'm still hoping for Isaac from Golden Sun, because giving other series more rep would be pretty rad.
Yugi I love how openly hostile you are towards Professor Layton for no discernible reason XD
i only speak the truth
So I was recreating older/3ds stages on the Wii U a I made a Yoshi's Island stage (with Randalls). After I completed the wreck, I played a couple of matches against my cousin (Captain Falcon VS Shulk) when suddenly he went inside the stage. We tried other characters but Shulk is the only one that can go in there. Best Stage Builder ever guys ;D!
Quote from: Olimar12345 on April 04, 2015, 07:36:51 AMICE CLIMBERS ;__;
Hahaha! If they were gonna be added in now, I'm sure it'd just be
Ice Climber. :P
Bomberman for Brawl.
Bomberman for Brawl.
Mewtwo inbound. Prepare your bodies.
Meh, my little brother is hyped too much so I think I'll just give the code that fierce needs and keep the other one private
may as well. I bet fierce would appreciate it ;3
1.0.6. Patch out and they nerfed Hoo Hah!
Oh, thank god.
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on April 14, 2015, 04:58:03 PMMeh, my little brother is hyped too much so I think I'll just give the code that fierce needs and keep the other one private
:3
Also lol just saw this DLC poll, and was about to say how unrealistic banjo is because Rare, but then remembered I voted for Geno who, while still nintendo property, is honestly less realistic just from sheer lack of recognition/popularity
I don't see an email in my inbox, are there any special hoops I have to jump through first
swag the email came
who wants to play an all mewtwo match online
Quote from: FierceDeity on April 15, 2015, 04:27:19 AMAlso lol just saw this DLC poll, and was about to say how unrealistic banjo is because Rare, but then remembered I voted for Geno who, while still nintendo property, is honestly less realistic just from sheer lack of recognition/popularity
Nintendo has said anybody is pretty much acceptable, even 3rd parties. Microsoft has even doubled this by endorsing Banjo in Sm4sh.
Most likely scenarios are a return of Snake, and more villains from already present franchises.
Liking Mewtwo so far!
Quote from: MaestroUGC on April 15, 2015, 07:47:12 AMNintendo has said anybody is pretty much acceptable, even 3rd parties. Microsoft has even doubled this by endorsing Banjo in Sm4sh.
Most likely scenarios are a return of Snake, and more villains from already present franchises.
That'd be great! Maybe Conker from Conkers bad fur day ;)
Quote from: mariolegofan on April 15, 2015, 10:29:36 AMThat'd be great! Maybe Conker from Conkers bad fur day ;)
Nope. There's no way Nintendo would put both Banjo and Conker in Smash, and Banjo will win any contest between the two.
And there's the fact that he's from a quite M rated franchise...
Technically Conker's Bad Fur is the only M-rated title from the Conker series. But yes, Banjo will more than likely get in over Conker or any other Rare IP.
I'm not really a big fan of Conker anyway :p
Banjo on the other hand I like a lot. Banjo without Kazooie wouldn't really make sense so maybe they'll incorporate both.....like Mario and FLUDD.
Quote from: K-NiGhT on April 15, 2015, 10:23:22 AMLiking Mewtwo so far!
Agreed. Mewtwo is awesome. So floaty.
his airgame is swag
especially his forward air, that's killer
Only thing I don't really like about him is that he's super light. Other than that he has great aerials, a nice grab game, fantastic recovery, and the new Confusion that reflects projectiles could come in handy. Disable still sucks, but that's to be expected.
is disable his down b? That thing actually has a decent range
No it doesn't lmao they have to almost be like right next to you. That's the opposite of range.
What on earth is all this hype about Banjo Kazooie? My friend showed me what they were the other day and they look exactly like the Duck Hunt Duo, just with a bear and goose instead. Seriously, if they added them in, it'd be literally a clone with some move changes... Lame. :-\
Quote from: fingerz on April 15, 2015, 05:46:06 PMWhat on earth is all this hype about Banjo Kazooie? My friend showed me what they were the other day and they look exactly like the Duck Hunt Duo, just with a bear and goose instead. Seriously, if they added them in, it'd be literally a clone with some move changes... Lame. :-\
fingerz you have no idea how much hate you are going to get for this
Quote from: Maelstrom on April 15, 2015, 10:44:39 AMhe's from a quite M rated franchise...
>Snake
fingerz is probably right considering creativity of movesets with characters already though.
Quote from: K-NiGhT on April 15, 2015, 01:39:58 PMNo it doesn't lmao they have to almost be like right next to you. That's the opposite of range.
it's like twice the range of his grab which is already bigger than most peoples'
his kit does seem kinda split between long range and close range though
Quote from: blueflower999 on April 15, 2015, 06:00:16 PMfingerz you have no idea how much hate you are going to get for this
Perhaps, but if I took one look at them and my first impression was Duck Hunt Duo, who's to say he won't? I mean, I'd prefer characters that are completely different to those already in the game. Make some 'new' characters that don't recycle anything or much at all from other characters.
Believe me, I'm just sayin' that if Banjo Kazooie made it in, they'd probably be pretty much a clone or a clone-in-disguise (like Ganondorf). I don't have a clue who Banjo Kazooie are or what they do to make themselves so popular but I would be disappointed if they were a clone, so I'm damn-well sure you would too. :P
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on April 15, 2015, 07:15:25 PMit's like twice the range of his grab which is already bigger than most peoples'
I belive what you're trying to say is, "It's not rest."
Oh man, do I LOOOOOVE Rest... ;D
3DS Update data dumps have possibly leaked Roy (not the Koopaling) and Ryu from Street Fighter as DLC.
Discuss.
https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/32nymz/smash_update_106_decrypted_first_observations/
And source of that. Someone else already confirmed Ryu files. Seems neat but I don't think anybody asked for Ryu l0l
Might just be an extra song they needed... At least that's what I'm thinking.
But, why Street Fighter of all things?
Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on April 16, 2015, 01:46:15 AMSeems neat but I don't think anybody asked for Ryu l0l
You literally find a way to complain about every single thing, don't you?
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on April 15, 2015, 01:14:38 PMis disable his down b? That thing actually has a decent range
Quote from: K-NiGhT on April 15, 2015, 01:39:58 PMNo it doesn't lmao they have to almost be like right next to you. That's the opposite of range.
It'd be decent if it was actually worth a damn against airborne opponents, or even prevented them from punishing you anyways, but it doesn't. Any attack you could get off afterwards really isn't worth the risk, especially considering that for them to actually stay stunned long enough for you to get a killing blow, they're generally already at high enough damage for up-throw to be an option (from what I've played of him so far).
Quote from: fingerz on April 15, 2015, 05:46:06 PMWhat on earth is all this hype about Banjo Kazooie? My friend showed me what they were the other day and they look exactly like the Duck Hunt Duo, just with a bear and goose instead. Seriously, if they added them in, it'd be literally a clone with some move changes... Lame. :-\
Blue's right, them's fighting words.
...but like, ambiguous sarcasm aside, cmon, man. If you didn't even know who they were, let alone play the games, how could you possibly say "It's a mammal with a bird on it's back! Same thing!"? There could be any number of unique aspects they could bring to the game, and you would have no idea. Honestly, if I didn't know better, I'd say you were trolling.
Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on April 15, 2015, 06:04:57 PMfingerz is probably right considering creativity of movesets with characters already though.
I'd agree if duck hunt's moveset weren't incredibly unique and mostly unapplicable to banjo and kazooie. Maybe aerials and tilts would be kinda similar, but that's about it, and even then, the original games have a wealth of different ideas to use. If banjo and kazooie were included, they really wouldn't have any existing character to copy for smashes and specials.
Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on April 16, 2015, 01:46:15 AMhttps://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/32nymz/smash_update_106_decrypted_first_observations/
QuoteI just looked into it, apparently Ryu is from Street Fighter
HOW CAN SOMEBODY HAVE THE TECHNICAL ABILITY TO FIGURE THIS SHIT OUT AND NOT KNOW HOW TO DO A QUICK GOOGLE SEARCH BEFORE MAKING A POST
To be fair, I do have to wonder WHY it'd be Ryu of all people. Like, why him in Smash?
On the one hand, there's a precedent for having Capcom characters in smash, now (and street fighter really is one of Capcom's most popular franchises). On the other hand, Capcom isn't actually done releasing new street fighter games, so it does seem strange to include a character unique to a concurrent fighting game franchise.
EDIT:
just saw this
Quote from: MaestroUGC on April 15, 2015, 07:47:12 AMNintendo has said anybody is pretty much acceptable, even 3rd parties. Microsoft has even doubled this by endorsing Banjo in Sm4sh.
Huh, that's neat. I didn't actually realize Microsoft had given its blessing.
I guess Capcom wanted another rep or something?
Smash is probably such a successful franchise at this point that any company including franchises is probably a good idea for publicity and such.
True. Including Pit was a great relaunch for Kid Icarus last go around, I bet (not third party but still)
Quote from: blueflower999 on April 17, 2015, 02:54:40 PMSmash is probably such a successful franchise at this point that any company including franchises is probably a good idea for publicity and such.
That's true. It'd be wise for companies like Rare to get in on it.....
And Shulk got Xenoblade more popular, and so on. So if anything getting in Smash for anyone that isn't a main Nintendo game is like "look! I exist! Buy my game!"
Quote from: mariolegofan on April 17, 2015, 03:34:35 PMThat's true. It'd be wise for companies like Rare to get in on it.....
But first Rare has to do something with their IP to market to people lol
Quote from: FierceDeity on April 17, 2015, 04:20:25 PMBut first Rare has to do something with their IP to market to people lol
Lol yeah :p
Hey. I like smash. 3000+ online battles now
Quote from: FierceDeity on April 17, 2015, 02:36:37 PMBlue's right, them's fighting words.
...but like, ambiguous sarcasm aside, cmon, man. If you didn't even know who they were, let alone play the games, how could you possibly say "It's a mammal with a bird on it's back! Same thing!"? There could be any number of unique aspects they could bring to the game, and you would have no idea. Honestly, if I didn't know better, I'd say you were trolling.
Just sayin'. I wouldn't want another dumb-ass character in Smash Bros.
(http://38.media.tumblr.com/2615ff996cfc764728a04d509b74745e/tumblr_inline_njefeyAb9I1sluwgl.png)
who dat
Looks like Peach. Now she's a resourceful character. ;D
oh my god
(http://38.media.tumblr.com/705309ac4b89979e2ed28a1920ca8096/tumblr_inline_nixhco8hvZ1sluwgl.png)
It's sailor moon, isn't it.
(Random guess that's probably correct)
I don't watch or ready anything remotely anime so I wouldn't have a clue. :P
Quote from: fingerz on April 19, 2015, 04:08:52 PM*implying that I watch Sailor Moon*
Take that back.
Quote from: Maelstrom on April 19, 2015, 04:13:02 PMTake that back.
what's wrong with watching sailor moon?
All I can think of when I hear Sailor Moon is Pirates of the Caribbean... XD
my sister used to watch sailor moon when I was a kid but I don't really remember it
I too am not a big fan of animes
anime*
lol
people erroneously take nocturne seriously, part 749620
I did an MS Paint drawing of R.O.B. as Diddy "Hoo Hah" Kong. Why? Because /r/smashcirclejerk...
(http://i.imgur.com/LSR2elK.png)
This was beautiful
http://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/33e3mh/magical_moment_i_had_at_a_tournament_this_weekend/
C'MON CRANKY, TAKE IT TO THE FRIDGE
How many characters have you completed 9.0 Classsic with? I've done 9 so far...
Make that 10...
all of them. I've not used a single hammer and I have all the achievements except one.
edit: for the 3ds version
Quote from: AwesomeYears on May 09, 2015, 09:25:50 PMHow many characters have you completed 9.0 Classsic with? I've done 9 so far...
Make that 10...
None, even though I love it, I'm not that that good at Smash :p
I haven't rally focused on that kinda stuff, so I think I've done it with like 6 or more maybe. But I'm up to 4000 online battles!
anybody want to play a few
OH WHAT NO WAY, I DID NOT COMPLETE LEVEL 9 CLASSIC WITH ALL THE CHARACTERS OMG
DID YOU EDIT IT TO SAY THAT OR DID I MISREAD IT
LIKE TWO, VILLAGER AND DR. MARIO, NOT ALL
You misread it.
I didn't see the difficulty 9 portion of it. :P
For the first time (and the last) this month, I've got myself a free day on the 31st May AEST so I'd love to battle you guys during that day. PM me if you're interested.
do you have my NNID?
NeurokCommando is that correct?
ya
Finally playing smash wii U for the first time today!
...though probably by connecting with my 3DS, because I'm pretty sure the guy doesn't have enough controllers, let alone a GCN adapter. Oh well, it'll be fun to actually play people in person where we can all see the same screen for once. I've been playing a bit of melee since I got back, but I really don't have the same level of technical control on that (at least in part due to the wear-and-tear characteristic of most GCN consoles and controllers nowadays) as in the new game, even with the circle pad, so it'll be hilarious for my friends to experience me meteor smashing them left and right for the first time.
Going to a tournament in some unknown guy's basement tomorrow. I've only played WiiU two times before, so I'll probably get styled right into the abyss, but it'll be fun.
Quote from: Jompa on May 30, 2015, 02:01:46 PMGoing to a tournament in some unknown guy's basement tomorrow.
This sounds shady.
Update: I kinda wrecked shit. It was fun. I only lost once, because it got to the point where I decided I'd play a round only going for rest kills with jigglypuff. I ended up getting 2 (4 players, 3 stock)
Quote from: FierceDeity on May 30, 2015, 01:07:43 PMwear-and-tear characteristic of most GCN consoles and controllers nowadays
The only wear-and-tear on my GCN controllers are ones that I've caused through rage-induced tantrums back when I was like 11 lol. Other than that, they've held up incredibly well, even considering my recent delve into Melee lol
My GCN controllers still work perfectly.
I went to a smash U launch party when it came out and I was the only one who had a 3ds and played smash on a regular basis
and I forgot what restraint was and won a lot
like I had fun but I probably should have let other people have too
i.e. getting second place with sonic when all I did was taunt for the whole match
:')
aw man I was hoping for someone recognizable
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on June 13, 2015, 03:47:42 AMaw man I was hoping for someone recognizable
Anyone who doesn't know who Ryu is doesn't know a thing about video games. :P
Ryu wasn't the one that was voted right?
Birdo must happen
You know what would be a cool twist, The Master Hand (maybe a mini version or something)
Quote must happen.
Quote from: Jompa on June 13, 2015, 09:17:22 AMBirdo must happen
I'm laughing this is the most random thing I've ever heard
Quote from: blueflower999 on June 13, 2015, 08:10:14 AMAnyone who doesn't know who Ryu is doesn't know a thing about video games. :P
Guess I don't know a thing about video games :P
Quote from: Maelstrom on June 13, 2015, 09:49:54 AMQuote must happen.
You're welcome.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on June 13, 2015, 10:19:12 AMGuess I don't know a thing about video games :P
Um...
Street Fighter? Come on, guys, this is game history 101!
Quote from: Jompa on June 13, 2015, 02:22:31 AM
NO, I WILL NOT BELIEVE IT.
WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE CLONE CHARACTERS BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE JUST CAN'T ACCEPT THE FACT THAT HE'S GONE AND UNNECESSARY AND :LKRE:OSITFN:SDLKVJA:LKJDA:LKJF SD:LJ FSD:KLJFNG:EDSLKJFSD:FJIIEUG:JEF:LKDSN
I guess technically he's a clone, but he is completely different from Lucina and Marth - the biggest difference is that Roy's sword is about as strong as a wet noodle, apart from right at the hilt, which is oposite to Marth, and his fire-based smashes doesn't actually have any knockback, and from what I see on that trailer his neutral-b is just the old melee-one. Basically he's much much much worse. Which is why I'm gonna play him.
I even voted for him :P
I played some melee today, and ohmygod, Roy is terrible ;D
Quote from: Yug_Guy on June 13, 2015, 12:07:19 PMNO, I WILL NOT BELIEVE IT.
WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE CLONE CHARACTERS BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE JUST CAN'T ACCEPT THE FACT THAT HE'S GONE AND UNNECESSARY AND :LKRE:OSITFN:SDLKVJA:LKJDA:LKJF SD:LJ FSD:KLJFNG:EDSLKJFSD:FJIIEUG:JEF:LKDSN
alright
I want you to take a deep breath
and ask yourself the question,
"Does this actually negatively impact me in any way?"
and if the answer is anything but "no"
then I'm sorry to inform you, but you are actually living in an alternate universe where logic doesn't seem to exist, so god help you and everyone in that universe
EDIT: Also I'm really excited for Ryu, shame on all of you for being born later and/or without older siblings who were into video games
I'm not even into Street Fighter/born into an era where it was the next big thing and I know who he is.
On a side note, that leaves two more characters to be announced for DLC. The Smash Ballot doesn't end till October, so what might the outcome be? My two most likely picks are Shovel Knight and K. Rool (though the Inkling may or may not have a sudden surge in popularity).
I was born in the 21st century and I have a Street Fighter II arcade machine that I play with time to time. Am I good to go?
You really shouldn't really say that in this forum, even jokingly. You know what happened to King
Yeah that was kinda overstepping it I suppose :P my bad
You are forgiven ;)
Quote from: FierceDeity on June 13, 2015, 02:21:31 PMalright
I want you to take a deep breath
and ask yourself the question,
"Does this actually negatively impact me in any way?"
Yeah, I know. I just really hate how loads of people want Roy back despite the fact that they would take the time to talk bad about any other clones. I also didn't grow up with Melee, so I also don't have any connection to Roy whatsoever. Personally, I think that the Fire Emblem series is well-represented in SSB4, and that there needs to be either 1. More unique characters from already-established series, or 2. Characters from games not already represented in Smash.
Yeah, it's stupid to get worked up about something silly like that, but I'm sure we all get worked up over similar things, right? Hopefully tomorrow we'll find out just what kinds of new characters and experiences we will be playing in the upcoming future.
/rant
I've completed all 3 challenge panels for the 3DS and I have all the trophies!!!
I don't have a Wii U yet buT OMG LUCAS COMES OUT LATER TODAY
Quote from: Yug_Guy on June 13, 2015, 08:59:05 PMYeah, I know. I just really hate how loads of people want Roy back despite the fact that they would take the time to talk bad about any other clones. I also didn't grow up with Melee, so I also don't have any connection to Roy whatsoever. Personally, I think that the Fire Emblem series is well-represented in SSB4, and that there needs to be either 1. More unique characters from already-established series, or 2. Characters from games not already represented in Smash.
Yeah, it's stupid to get worked up about something silly like that, but I'm sure we all get worked up over similar things, right? Hopefully tomorrow we'll find out just what kinds of new characters and experiences we will be playing in the upcoming future.
/rant
see this is what i hate about the smash community
we take free shit like this for granted. yes we get some clones, but you know why we get clones? they're easy to make. it's either clones or nothing tbh.
edit: also, according to some now-deleted VODs of Roy gameplay, Roy is no longer a strict Marth clone. His dair is similar to Ike's and a few of his moves have been changed from what I have heard. Wasn't able to see the VOD but /r/smashbros has my back
Yeah it's really more just that Roy isn't stealing a slot from anyone. It's not like his being in bars any other character from inclusion
In other news, some Marth player in FG played 27 consecutive matches against me, despite losing 25 of them, so I got some good practice playing characters I wouldn't usually play (which explains the 2 losses lol)
Got pretty good at Ness, actually, especially his dthrow+fair combo
Dude ness d-throw fair is sick. I got one offstage against a Captain Falcon once that went on like 4 or 5 fairs. Lmao Ness is god tier
It's especially great when they don't know how to DI properly, so PK fire and that combo end up working without a hitch up to 70 damage or so (at which point even the worst DI will still leave you too high for fair). I got a bowser 0-dead this way earlier, it was great
SMASH DIRECT IN 8 MINUTES GO TO twitch.tv/nintendo RIGHT NOW
Ryu looks so fun to fight with holy shit
As of right now, Ryu looks like he's going to be at least A tier.
Stayed up till 1AM to watch this. Worth it. Also 64 stages!
THIS IS THE MOST BADASS THING I'VE EVER SEEN
ROY ISN'T RIDICULOUSLY TERRIBLE
ALL IS WELL WITH THE WORLD
ALSO RYU IS GOD TIER OMG
I'm still not sure when/for what system I'll be buying the new characters, so I haven't gotten them yet. My 3DS game is still linked with Noc's wii u version, so that complicates things a bit; anyone know if it's still possible to link it with my own wii u version once I get it?
And people didn't believe me when I said Smash 4 was going to be the greatest. Pssh.
Quote from: mariolegofan on June 13, 2015, 09:46:57 AMYou know what would be a cool twist, The Master Hand (maybe a mini version or something)
You can play as master hand in Melee
Quote from: FierceDeity on June 14, 2015, 04:28:39 PMI'm still not sure when/for what system I'll be buying the new characters, so I haven't gotten them yet. My 3DS game is still linked with Noc's wii u version, so that complicates things a bit; anyone know if it's still possible to link it with my own wii u version once I get it?
uh, how about getting them for both systems
;D
Quote from: Nebbles on June 14, 2015, 06:04:57 PMAnd people didn't believe me when I said Smash 4 was going to be the greatest. Pssh.
People didn't believe you?!
In other news: I think Ryu is actually pretty fun to use. He's similar to Captain Falcon in regards to weight/speed, and he's got some pretty sweet finishing moves. I'm definitely gonna try using him more often!
Well, it was more of the "Smash 4 will never live up to Melee! Melee is da bestest evur!!!1!!!!"
And I think they're incorrect.
As a competitive game that's correct, but 4 is fine for casual fun.
Imo, 4 may be better for competitive. It's just because there are so many viable options, as opposed to Melee.
4 is super boring to even watch though, the game is too damn slow and floaty. It might have more high level options but the mechanical depth just isn't there.
Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on June 15, 2015, 12:23:25 PM4 is super boring to even watch though, the game is too damn slow and floaty. It might have more high level options but the mechanical depth just isn't there.
Really? I haven't gotten that from the matches I've watched. I guess it varys person to person.
Melee is better as spectator sport because it's all (and I mean ALL) about technical ability, and that's more impressive to watch. As far as depth of gameplay, however, sm4sh is superior imo because its pacing and relatively accessible level of control favor strategy and complex mindgames over sheer mastery of the controller.
Yeah the fact that anyone thinks Melee is the definitive Smash over Wii U is laughable honestly
1) Melee will never die
2) It's a fairly large portion of the Smash community that has such an opinion, unfortunately ;)
melee is too hard
While Melee doesn't have the amount of characters/stages/features as later entries, it has something that gives people reason to still play it again 14 years later; the sheer depth of its gameplay. I mean hell, people are still finding new aspects of the game that no one had ever even thought about, some new platform techniques were just discovered about a week or two ago.
Smash 4 is fun and stuff, but it just doesn't have the amount of movement options, and in general just allows for a slower, more defensive style of play.
Don't get me wrong, I love every entry of Smash. I just think that they should have left the gameplay engine where it was.
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on June 15, 2015, 05:41:09 PMmelee is too hard
git gud?
Melee is best game ever.
So about these new guys:
Roy is pretty bad, but he is strong. I've been playing him the past days, and it's pretty fun.
Ryu is probably insanely good if one masters him. In the first place he's dangerous to approach.
Lucas is the best character in the game, and you don't even have to be good. His arrival has destroyed the metagame. Ness was too good - now Lucas comes with actually good recovery (pk thunder), even stronger moves, good combos, more speed, grab range, reliable spike, and basically a lot of crazy stuff you can't beat in a head-on fight. Besides, he just won't die. Not a good thing.
I'm never going to be that good at any video game
sux 2 suk
Quote from: Jompa on June 15, 2015, 10:59:28 PMLucas is the best character in the game, and you don't even have to be good. His arrival has destroyed the metagame. Ness was too good - now Lucas comes with actually good recovery (pk thunder), even stronger moves, good combos, more speed, grab range, reliable spike, and basically a lot of crazy stuff you can't beat in a head-on fight. Besides, he just won't die. Not a good thing.
Good thing I mained him for a while in Brawl, then. Time 2 get rekt, scrubs.
Still though, no one can beat my Alph.
YOU ACTUALLY MAIN OLIMAR/ALPH
HOW
Quote from: SlowPokemon on June 16, 2015, 05:49:07 PMYOU ACTUALLY MAIN OLIMAR/ALPH
HOW
Olimar's half decent with one on ones. He's just not used that often, cause he's not exactly easy to play as. Kind of like Shulk.
lmao reflecting olimar's smashes is the most satisfying thing
Idk, I'd say reflecting mega man's is more so.
Also, OH MY GOD IF YOU HAVE NOT LOOKED AT THE MIIVERSE SUPPORT PAGES (https://miiverse.nintendo.net/titles/14866558073037299863) FOR THE MIIVERSE STAGE YET I URGE YOU TO DO SO
(https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/pap/zlCfzTdwJ3UMezz5OR)
Charging a smash one more second until the reflector runs out is the most satisfying thing ever.
QuoteMIIVERSE SUPPORT PAGES (https://miiverse.nintendo.net/titles/14866558073037299863)
I went on this... "Who plays as Olimar, really?" "Seriously, who plays as Olimar?" "Dies Olimar mains
exist?" were the three top ones.... And they're right. I play Alph.
It's funny that those are listed on top of the "Popular" because most of them don't actually have any "Yeah"s (it just feels weird calling it that), haha
Quote from: Jompa on June 16, 2015, 10:58:47 PMCharging a smash one more second until the reflector runs out is the most satisfying thing ever.
But admittedly much more difficult considering they already have the upper hand in terms of timing if they've predicted your smash.
Or, you know, if they're Fox.
True, but playing Alph I'm forced to predict when people predict my smash.
Quote from: Waddle Bro on June 16, 2015, 06:16:30 PMlmao reflecting olimar's smashes is the most satisfying thing
In for glory I'll literally never pick olimar until I know my opponent doesn't play mario. It's such bs >_>
Quote from: FierceDeity on June 16, 2015, 09:42:59 PMAlso, OH MY GOD IF YOU HAVE NOT LOOKED AT THE MIIVERSE SUPPORT PAGES (https://miiverse.nintendo.net/titles/14866558073037299863) FOR THE MIIVERSE STAGE YET I URGE YOU TO DO SO
Thank you. Day made.
The top Shulk one spoils the entire game.
(https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/pap/zlCfzTd5cGs7LKVNJx)
(https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/pap/zlCfzTdkFHQNskHLWY)
WFT
(https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/pap/zlCfzTd8eLs3Q6VfmC)
(https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/pap/zlCfzTd-kMcqbMlboV)
The entire ZSS community
(https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/pap/zlCfzTdskLYxy7qYwp)
New favorite pastime: playing baseball with Ness's bat and Dr. Mario's pills
https://sourcegaming.wordpress.com/2015/06/25/ryu-roy-and-lucas-join-the-battle-sakurai-famitsu-column-vol-481/
sakurai interview MORE CHARACTERS CONFIRMED
QuoteThere is a fighter ballot on the official Smash for Wii U/3DS website. We've received an extremely large number of votes, but of course, Lucas, Roy, and Ryu were in developed even before the ballot was created. I had a grasp on their popularity and demand, though.
From now until the end, it is going to be fan service [2] , but I can't keep the development team together forever, so there's only going to be several more characters [3]. I also ask for your patience, as we need time to develop more content.
There may be unforeseen circumstances that arise as well, but I'll try my best!
After this damn patch pikmin are EVEN MORE DISOBEDIENT THAN BEFORE. It was bad enough when yellows villingly would jump off the edge, whites would disappear into the ground and die, and purples would take a detour across the entire stage before returning to Alph, but damn, now it's too much to even get my head around...
Quote from: Waddle Bro on June 25, 2015, 04:33:35 PMsakurai interview MORE CHARACTERS CONFIRMED
This is so great. God, I love this game
More characters confirmed, AND ones that Sakurai know people really want. Hoo boy I can't wait.
This Smash has been pretty pleasantly surprising in the roster so far.
I think I've found the SSB4 AMSA...
Such a sick video. Inspired me to pick up Yoshi a while back
Got a new profile picture. Check it out.
It's people like that that make me hate online
Play of the day (https://video-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hvideo-xpt1/v/t42.1790-2/11737241_10204442417916538_1117424629_n.mp4?efg=eyJybHIiOjY5MywicmxhIjo1MTJ9&rl=693&vabr=385&oh=b46f99ff9022c8270e72b0bf7c5ed669&oe=55AAFEA4) (bomb grab to meteor = smashgasm)
Quote from: Jompa on July 18, 2015, 04:23:50 PMPlay of the day (https://video-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hvideo-xpt1/v/t42.1790-2/11737241_10204442417916538_1117424629_n.mp4?efg=eyJybHIiOjY5MywicmxhIjo1MTJ9&rl=693&vabr=385&oh=b46f99ff9022c8270e72b0bf7c5ed669&oe=55AAFEA4) (bomb grab to meteor = smashgasm)
And it's giving me an error message. :(
Anyway...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hkr7n3ecrFk
Why not share this.
Now it works: Play of the day (https://cdn.fbsbx.com/hphotos-xtf1/v/t59.2708-21/11738742_10204444298443550_632228455_n.MOV/IMG_1586.MOV?oh=029df0bc5be4cd402f3493c63a94da7a&oe=55ACE8AC&dl=1)
"Gaur Plains" from Xenoblade Chronicles layered on top of "Route 10" from Pokémon Black and Pokémon White. I can't get enough of this.
Oooooh, very nice.
Anyone want to play pitball??
I'm really good 8)
If I had Smash, yes :/
Played with Olimar!
Too many bats, not enough pitfalls...
http://www.gamnesia.com/news/nintendo-has-trademarked-the-name-king-k.-rool
Leak fake?
https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/3eoog1/king_k_rool_leak_deconfirmed_by_grant_kirkhope/
"I've no Idea what this is" is hardly confirmation.
He's working on Yooka-Laylee, not Smash, remember?
One of the music credits has his name on it. I think that's why they asked him.
Probably because he did write one of the pieces that got remixed in the game. Honestly he'd be one of the last people involved with anything to know anything.
https://twitter.com/SmashBrosJP/status/626287547610574848
rip your hopes and dreams o_o
Maybe, if we pretend enough, it will one day be so.
Social reaction: Well, at least they went with Rare's design and not Paon's monstrosity. And it'll be my main, even it's just a suit. :B
Actual reaction:
(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/132436/stewie-o.gif)
HOWEVER, K Rool is still very high, if not on top, of the Ballot. If he wins, he HAS to be included because of fan demand. Not that there's not a Link outfit and Link as a character or anything. I'll have hope until Sakurai directly states "No K Rool" no matter what.
This is some top tier trolling lmao. What if the Smash Ballot was just for Mii Fighter costumes?
Nah they specifically said it's for characters. I wouldn't be surprised if they made costumes of some of the ones that were popular, but didn't win or weren't practical. (Which is what I'm assuming happened with our gator friend)
Well, it's not like King K. Rool can't see some sort of life in Smash, but overall it seems as if Nintendo just forgot he existed for the past few years. I'm looking at you, DKCR. I think the DLC poll will result with a third party character anyway, Banjo seemed to be topping most exit polls as well as restoring older fighters.
We still have a few months to see the results anyway, it doesn't close until October.
tbh I've never heard of K Rool
except for a long time ago a friend of mine mentioned him in passing
Yeah he's kind of irrelevant to modern Nintendo.
(https://40.media.tumblr.com/de41aaa211a66a5254ed006d366c58a9/tumblr_ns9g5ez1eY1t89eulo1_1280.png)
Quote from: SlowPokemon on July 29, 2015, 12:54:45 PMYeah he's kind of irrelevant to modern Nintendo.
Didn't stop Duck Hunt Dog. Or Game&Watch.
Oh no, I agree and I'm not writing off K Rool. I just mean it makes sense that Nocturne wouldn't know who he is.
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on July 29, 2015, 12:52:59 PMtbh I've never heard of K Rool
except for a long time ago a friend of mine mentioned him in passing
omg I just googled in passing and it doesn't mean their final words before they die.
how long have I not known this
So word on the street is that Tourney Mode is actually quite terrible.
Not surprised tbh.
have you been watching sesame street again
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on July 31, 2015, 07:36:50 AMhave you been watching sesame street again
that was terrible and you should feel bad
Quote from: K-NiGhT on July 31, 2015, 07:02:26 AMSo word on the street is that Tourney Mode is actually quite terrible.
Not surprised tbh.
this makes me sad
Quote from: Nebbles on July 31, 2015, 09:53:18 AMthis makes me sad
in the event of a stock tie, it doesn't go to sudden death, nor does it take the player with the lower percent. It determines through damage dealt. Time is set at like 3 minutes, so matches always time our even if it's stock.
Also, if someone rages and turns off the internet, it boots
both players.
There's so much more wrong with this mode that it's disgusting.
Why is it from damage dealt? That's kinda dumb.
I don't know about you guys, but I love being able to play on the old Hyrule Castle and Peach's Castle stages...
...I'm also in this bad habit (is it bad?) of always buying the DLC for both Wii U and 3DS. Fortuantely, I save myself money by NOT buying all of the Mii Fighter costumes. This time I just went with Black Knight, Chrom, K. Rool, Samus' armor and Flying man. I wasn't really interested in the other ones.
Quote from: Nebbles on July 31, 2015, 10:01:39 AMWhy is it from damage dealt? That's kinda dumb.
would you rather have it be off of airtime
Well, lower percent is usually the better way to go... or you know, sudden death.
Quote from: K-NiGhT on July 31, 2015, 10:01:05 AMTime is set at like 3 minutes
lol what? Last I saw, that's like the time it takes to even take off a stock in this game lol.
Quote from: Nebbles on July 31, 2015, 05:04:40 PMWell, lower percent is usually the better way to go... or you know, sudden death.
I think they made it based off damage to promote being more offensive/aggressive because of how campy/stall-ish this game can be. I don't think it actually solves the problem though, and yeah, sudden death would be better.
But nerfing dodge invincibilty and making the KO boundaries smaller would be even better. (unless they changed that stuff in recent updates, haven't played in a while)
How many stock is it? Because if it's 2, honestly I so rarely get sudden death in for glory mode. I'm not even that aggressive of a player, it's just that if you utilize all of your options, the attack > grab > shield > attack dynamic isn't all that stall-worthy. The problem is that many newer players underuse grab, and so yeah, defensive play styles will often pay off immensely. While infinite air dodge does make shielding against any air approaches more appealing, you still have to take the mind game into account, and if you become too predictable by doing this repeatedly, you're putting yourself at a disadvantage.
pretty sure it's two stock. not sure tho, haven't had a chance to play the mode yet. All the stuff I said was hearsay from the smash subreddit.
Yo yo who's up for some smash 4
I love videos mocking other videos.
Anybody?
This weekend maybe..
I JUST WON MY FIRST ONLINE BATTLE
Did your PK Fire spamming finally pay off?
I play toon link
This isn't meant to be a competitive game
>just won first game in remotely competitive scenario
>claims knowledge of competitive landscape of game
>mfw:
(http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/random-ness/images/b/b8/Oh_you.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110419012743)
>you're goddamn right I'm using greentext where it doesn't work
Why do I keep getting paired with mangos
I might be able to play Smash tomorrow, but probably not in your time region :P
Yesterday, online, I fought against best smash player I've ever fought against (or even heard about), *Triff*. He was God. He was like a lv30 CPU - that's how perfect he was. I could only inflict 7% on his Bowser Jr., and his Peach took a stock from me without taking a single percent damage. Considering I was playing Alph, this is crazy. So if anyone ever fights him, good luck!
Other than that there's this guy I've met online many times, called Max, who only wants one battle before he leaves. He plays Wario. I've fought him five times and he destroys me everytime (my Falco, at least). Yesterday I almost beat him, as that was the first time I fought him with Alph (I recognized the name and purposely chose Alph this time), but he really is just too good. We were both at kill percents, but I lost because of the lag Alph gets from a failed grab (he spot-dodged) and I got d-smashed. I really don't get why he always leaves. That battle was amazing...
I'm going to my second ever Wii U tournament tomorrow, but it'll be my first since I switched to Yoshi. Hopefully I do well.
Quote from: AwesomeYears on August 07, 2015, 12:02:44 AMI might be able to play Smash tomorrow, but probably not in your time region :P
I'm GMT minus 5
Still goin
Anybody? Latios? Bespinben?
Ok
I made a room
Whoops
I heard they buffed the Gunner. Something I appreciate even more with access to the K.K. Slider outfit. shooting out of a guitar somehow.
3 reasons you should play sm4sh with me
1. This is the last night I play wii U for some time
2. My eagle scout paperwork got approved
3. I'm bad and playing against me will make you feel good
I am ALWAYS up for sm4sh, but I only play 3DS..
I spontaniously went to a smash tournament at noon today, and it turned out to actually be kinda a big deal. All of the great legendary top-level players in Oslo competed (everyone! and I know about these people), and before signing up for doubles I managed to, through friendlies, win over one of the best of them to team up with me. We turned out to be great teammates actually, finding a great strategy in Alph&Ness. We reached third, only loosing to the team of the two best players (who won the whole thing in the end), both in winners and loosers.
Then it was time for singles. Unfortunately for me, I met one of the best players in the first round (playing Fox; not a good matchup for Alph), so I wound up in loosers right away, but I brutally fought myself all the way through loosers, beating, among others, my previous team-mate, and another really good one (*this was the sickest match of all time(see below)) before again meeting the guy who beat me in the first round (who had been sent to loosers by the by-far-best). This time we were about evenly matched, but I ended up loosing, and I was out at fourth place, which is a ridiculously high placing against all these guys!! Like, one of them is crowned the Best of Norway!
*Sickest match of all time: Me (Alph) against this other guy (R.O.B.), who was one of the best players. This is basically a super-campy matchup, and ROB has a ridiculously supreme advantage. (This was in loosers, so it was a best-of-one-match). The battle went on for so long that when we both were at our last stock, the timer was about to run out! And he was in the lead. If the timer runs out it is the one with the percentage-lead who wins, and when the commentator started counting down from five, ROB was outa there! He ran. He flew away (with up-b), and up into the corner to time me out. But I jumped after him, and flew after him with up-b, and when I reached him the commentator was at "one". Alph can attack after his up-b (so can ROB), and I had a purple pikmin in my hand. After the commentator shoutet "one" I just dodged his attempt to hit me with down-air, and managed to just barely hit him with the purple up-air, and since we were so high up, he died before the one second ended (he was at like 60%, hahah). So I won. If that hadn't killed him, he'd still be in the lead, but it was just enough.
The ROB-player got so freakin' mad hahaha. Must've been the longest second of his sm4sh-life.
What I learned today: it doesn't matter how much you play/practice Alph. He's terrible, get a decent secondary.
Also: with a great teammate, doubles are amazing.
Also: tournaments are hella fun, and omg, so intense. Loosers bracket is the most stressfull thing ever. Ending up in loosers after the first round just gave me that many extra matches (best-of-one, at that) to play, all against people who had made it further than me in winners. I actually had the most matches of everyone there. Nuts.
What a great day.
Was it 3DS, or Wii U? (seeing as you played mostly on the 3DS)
It was Wii U, which I've only played on four times before. But luckily I got used to my old gamecube controllers again after just a couple of friendly matches before signups. Not having those couple of frames of input lag is just so completely different!
The only problem Wii U created for me was for stage selections (as I don't know anything about the stages, or even which ones are legal). "Just pick a stage" became my greeting to each oponent :P
I don't see why I didn't buy a Wii U as soon as Smash came, or why I haven't done it in all this time after that either. Or why I am not doing it right this second.
You finally realized how much better it is?
To tell the truth, I haven't put any time whatsoever into my 3DS version after I got the Wii U version as well. I kind of just bought it because I didn't want to wait for the Wii U version, and for the CD (and Mewtwo).
Deep breaths. (http://www.idigitaltimes.com/super-smash-bros-4-characters-professor-layton-voice-actor-fuels-rumors-detectives-468945)
A voice actor commenting he may be in a game that has a lot of vocal talent? Neat.
To be fair, Christopher Miller doesn't voice anyone else for Nintendo.
Shhh. We can hope.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 24, 2015, 09:27:30 PMDeep breaths. (http://www.idigitaltimes.com/super-smash-bros-4-characters-professor-layton-voice-actor-fuels-rumors-detectives-468945)
I thought the IMDB thing was falsified?
THAT LOOKS AMAZING
So can we design our own levels on SMM and import them on SSB? Because that would be amazing. Although, it doesn't look like it.
me rn
(http://images.magicmadhouse.co.uk/images/products/1415723208-48135100.jpg)
so who's gonna play me in some Smash Bros
Today is the last day to vote for the Smash Ballot! Make sure you did that!
Oh shit, it's finally ending! I wonder when we'll get results.
cmon layton
Birdo for Smash
Yay!
I'm very curious to see how this turns out!
inb4 tingle
I've been playing a LOT of team battles.
My friend hyperjon7 and I play Vs. a lot, so we are very good at reading each other... which translates into a formidable doubles combo.
It's a pretty interesting to watch, too. On Friday, we were playing at the local university, which was doing a team battle day. Most of our communication was through in game actions, and our character combination works very well as a team too.
I went to a rather huge tournament back in Oslo on saturday. There were 42 participants in the Smash 4 bracket, but what made this special was that pretty much every good player in Oslo (apart from like two) was there - like 12 high-level guys (myself included). In my third round I was against the best player in Norway. For some reason I dominated him for the first game, and I was about to win the second too. It looked like we would see an insane upset, but I self-destructed at the end of game 2 (held too many pikmin while recovering...), and on the third match he went to Duck Hunt, and Alph really doesn't work on that stage... But I'm happy and suprised I could do so well against him, considering he has won every single tournament he's been to since the game came out. I haven't seen him loose a match before this.
In loosers I beat a lot of the best players, making my way to top-4, but I lost to the same guy who always beats me at every tournament (it's the damn impossible Fox-matchup...). So in the end I got fourth, placing above most of the the good guys, which is ridiculous for my third tournament, so I'm really happy with that.
I also joined the melee bracket, but in the first round I met the tournament's organizer. He played ICs, and I can tell you, every single one of my stocks, I lost to wobbling... 4 of them was from 0%.
In loosers also, I met a really good player, but I almost beat him! I didn't mind loosing there though, as I don't actually play melee, and I was just passing time between Smash 4 matches.
Tournaments are fun~
Maybe.
I tend to think having a great rally with family and friends is much more entertaining than watching overweight, ghost-pale, sleep-deprived nerds who waste their lives by spending thousands of hours as one character, perfecting their technique to the point of insanity just to beat everyone else who plays the game AND then end up blowing up in peoples' faces if they don't win. Sheesh. I think the point of a game is to enjoy it. Nothing's enjoyable in a hostile environment like that... :-\
I don't think your points are valid
Quote from: fingerz on October 12, 2015, 05:46:10 PMoverweight, ghost-pale, sleep-deprived nerds
you know nothing about the competitive smash scene if you think that's what the average player looks like.
Fellas, it's a generalisation! I'm not putting any of you down! I'm just sayin' that the majority of people I've ever seen play any Smash Bros. game beyond 'fun' needs to be doing something else productive with their lives. They're not very nice people, let's put it that way. Hence I steer clear of anything tournament-wise here... It attracts the people who need to put someone else down in order to feel good about themselves. :(
Quote from: fingerz on October 12, 2015, 10:29:16 PMFellas, it's a generalisation! I'm not putting any of you down! I'm just sayin' that the majority of people I've ever seen play any Smash Bros. game beyond 'fun' needs to be doing something else productive with their lives. They're not very nice people, let's put it that way. Hence I steer clear of anything tournament-wise here... It attracts the people who need to put someone else down in order to feel good about themselves. :(
that's a terrible and outright wrong generalization of the Smash community.
Come to Australia and you'll find that is the competitive Smash community. And the Pokemon one. And every other game that's competitive. :P
Quote from: fingerz on October 12, 2015, 10:36:11 PMCome to Australia and you'll find that is the competitive Smash community. And the Pokemon one. And every other game that's competitive. :P
I watched BAM 7 a few months ago and found the Australian community to be just fine.
Aha. Well I live here and have attended enough of 'em around Melbourne to know it's not fun at all.
Quote from: fingerz on October 12, 2015, 05:46:10 PMI think the point of a game is to enjoy it. Nothing's enjoyable in a hostile environment like that... :-\
Well, you know, when you're actually good at the game, it's only enjoyable when you actually meet good oponents. You don't find these people on "for fun" free-for-alls online.
I don't know about the Australian community, but it's clearly different from Oslo. Tournaments are extremely fun when the people there are nice, passionate about Smash, and most of all,
good at the game! If I didn't go to tournaments, how would I get to play good people?!
Just like you, I don't like people who blow up in your face when they loose, blaming all sorts of things like controllers and lag. I do get a little salty when people win by bullshit means, but letting this affect their temper is something only
certain people do. I promise you, I have never met a
good player who can't control their emotions. I've met a whole lot of
bad players who can't control their emotions. So your community sounds really really sad, and bad. You can have your opinion ofc, but as facts your points aren't valid in the slightest way.
Yeah, I rocked up at a tournament once to see a 3DS fly through the front window of the building. Clearly there's something wrong with people here... ???
Quote from: fingerz on October 13, 2015, 04:21:07 PMYeah, I rocked up at a tournament once to see a 3DS fly through the front window of the building. Clearly there's something wrong with people here... ???
one person being salty doesn't make the whole community terrible tbh
I'm not just talking about one instance. Seriously, I'm yet to come across someone who's actually not a cock at those tournaments... :(
QuoteWell, we are officially on Cloud 9. See his reveal trailer:
US: https://youtu.be/nc3CY31kMJ4 (https://youtu.be/nc3CY31kMJ4)
UK: https://youtu.be/wah7AGkkzl4 (https://youtu.be/wah7AGkkzl4)
Not a drill. I repeat, this is not a drill.
Lol, you misspelled TSM.
TSM TSM TSM TSM TSM TSM TSM TSM TSM TSM TSM TSM TSM TSM TSM TSM TSM TSM
Literally anyone is possible now, I will revoke all doubt I may have had in the past. The pipe dream of FFVII remake AND Cloud in Smash are both coming to fruition simultaneously.
Agreed. The more characters, the better! After all, the development team's finishing up soon, SO PUMP 'EM OUT, GUYS! ;D
Quote from: braixen1264 on November 13, 2015, 06:50:17 AMTSM TSM TSM TSM TSM TSM TSM TSM TSM TSM TSM TSM TSM TSM TSM TSM TSM TSM
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I've been going to these bi-weekly tournaments in the other town over from where I live now. Two weeks ago the TO started recording the mathces. Here's me in grand finals from that tournament if anyone is remotely interested. Not that they're all that good over there tho (apart from the Falcon guy):
I was there yesterday too, and I won that tournament too. Grand finals was against a visiting Wii Fit Trainer who's one of the well-known smashers in Norway, instead of the Falcon guy. That was pretty tough.
New challenger!
...
Oh,
It's another Fire Emblem character.
K.
Idc much about Fire Emblem but Bayonetta is a wicked cool game and her character looks really interesting :O though it seems pretty racy for a first party Nintendo game ahaha
Nice wrap-up to the Smash DLC.
Where is the smash ballot results?
Quote from: mariolegofan on December 15, 2015, 02:51:16 PMWhere is the smash ballot results?
Bayonetta won the ballot.
Quote from: MaestroUGC on December 15, 2015, 02:54:19 PMBayonetta won the ballot.
To clarify, Bayonetta got #1 in Europe and top 5 in the US. She was also the number 1 worldwide character that was "realizable."
Which means Shrek probably actually won the ballot.
That was kinda let down-ish.
Bayonetta is a pretty reasonable choice, actually. A.k.a. "It's not Ridley, but it'll do." Corrin, though, baffles me...
Oh, I'm happy Bayonetta made it in, she's freaking awesome. It's little bittersweet how this is likely the last bit of DLC we're going to get, but I'm ok with how it all turned out.
So much for more MK8 DLC.....
They haven't announced if they're going to cease making MK8 DLC, just that this would be the final DLC Sm4sh will get.
Quote from: AwesomeYears on December 15, 2015, 02:36:20 PM
New challenger!
...
Oh,
It's another Fire Emblem character.
K.
screw fire emblem
where's shovel knight
Quote from: MaestroUGC on December 15, 2015, 03:33:14 PMThey haven't announced if they're going to cease making MK8 DLC, just that this would be the final DLC Sm4sh will get.
Exactly. There is still hope!
The problem is that MK8 is an older game so I assumed they wouldn't make anymore DLC for it.
What I wanna see for the next direct is Super Mario Sunshine 2 or Super Mario RPG 2.
I'm honestly excited about both these characters. They're pretty diverse and have unique mechanics from the average Smash character. I was a little on the fence about Corrin considering he's yet another Fire Emblem character (this makes Fire Emblem tied for the second most represented series in Smash with Pokemon, beaten only by Mario). But the dude turns into a fucking dragon, that's awesome imo.
I'm friggin' pumped for Bayonetta! She was pretty high on my list for most wanted characters in smash, so I'm glad she's in.
Corrin... it's disappointing that we get yet another FE characters, but at least his moveset is pretty sweet. Overall, I can't complain.
Also, Sakurai wins the troll of the year award for including the Geno Mii costume lol
Quote from: SlowPokemon on December 15, 2015, 02:45:54 PMBayonetta is a wicked cool game
I see what you did thereI'm very excited for both of these characters. I was initially upset when I saw another FE character made it in, but if he didn't have that series associated with him I think everyone would hyped for his inclusion. He turns into a dragon and can impale fools just for giggles. 'Nuff said.
And holy crap Bayonetta. Just. Bayonetta. The blatantly-sexualized-because-screw-censorship-I-want-a-beat-em-up-with-BDSM-elements-starring-a-sassy-gun-toting-witch-who-uses-her-hair-for-clothing-and-reks-shit-like-it's-nobody's-business-while-destroying-angels-in-an-overly-flashy-fashion-while-still-managing-to-be-incredibly-sexy character made it into Smash. I am legitimately curious as to who could be upset that this is a thing. Sakurai, you done good.
I love how all the DLC characters are either human or humanoid. :P
Racist.
I still believe in Wolf tho. When the new starfox comes out he'll probably be announced.
And I still believe in Birdo.
I mean unfortunately it's been explicitly stated that Bayonetta would be the last character for Smash 4. Maybe next time, boys ;-;
I still find it funny how none of the Smashified characters (http://smashifiedart.com/) (except Travis obviously) and Wolf, who were supposed to be the fan favorite choices, shoo-ins like Shovel Knight, Shantae or the Inklings, made it in.
Beggars can't be choosers I guess.
Quote from: K-NiGhT on December 16, 2015, 01:53:53 AMI mean unfortunately it's been explicitly stated that Bayonetta would be the last character for Smash 4. Maybe next time, boys ;-;
Gotta wait until Smash 5, folks.
When a YouTuber uses NinSheetMusic MIDIs in their videos...
Why would someone even consider using a MIDI for that? Like, wouldn't you want to use the actual song? Or a remix? Or, anything else?
Some people may think that the MIDI sounds better than the actual song, or it sounds goofy enough for a troll like vid.
XDXD Professor E. Gadd for Sm4sh DLC!
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I'd take Bayonetta over E. Gadd any day.
MIDI has always been my 3rd favorite sound type. Right next to tibettan throat music and the hum of a nuclear reactor.
Quote from: Magenta on January 21, 2016, 04:32:30 PMMIDI has always been my 3rd favorite sound type. Right next to tibettan throat music and the hum of a nuclear reactor.
#randomness
Quote from: Magenta on January 21, 2016, 04:32:30 PMMIDI has always been my 3rd favorite sound type. Right next to tibettan throat music and the hum of a nuclear reactor.
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I knew Magenta was a bot!
Or just too random for their own good.
Quote from: E. Gadd Industries on January 21, 2016, 08:11:08 PMI knew Magenta was a bot! Or just too random for their own good.
he isn't a bot.
Any thoughts on Corrin/Bayonetta?
I personally really like Bayonetta. She can deal out a lot of damage through her constant fire of guns. A pretty fun character to play!
Corrin, though, is a bit more different to play, even though he is your standard Fire Emblem character.
About Corrin...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R5VZ1FGmPE
Quote from: Nana1Popo2 on February 08, 2016, 01:29:11 PMAny thoughts on Corrin/Bayonetta?
As much as I love Bayonetta as a character, I don't really "click" with her fighting style in Smash. She seems to be one of those characters that can be a huge powerhouse, but only if played effectively. I guess I'm just not that great at comboing. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Corrin really surprised me though; their style was really easy to pick-up-and play, and I ended up really enjoying playing as them. Also, that lunging side-b is the single most satisfying move to effectively pull off in the entirety of Smash Bros. There's just something awesome about pinning your opponents to the ground, and then drop-kicking them before they even get up.
Corrin for best waifu 2016Bayonetta's Clock Tower stage is also really fun as well! Plus, dat music tho.