What is the "Fixing the Sheets" Initiative?
The "Fixing the Sheets" Project was an organized effort to bring each and every sheet of music on Ninsheetmusic up to the current standard. Most of the target sheets were submitted before any quality standard was required. As a result, some of those sheets are abhorring.
This is the reincarnation of the original "Fixing the Sheets" Project. Everything is basically the same here except the roles have been ditched, and so has the wiki.
If you want to help out, please go right ahead. Having listed roles for helping here would be like getting a title for submitting a sheet to the main site. It's unnecessary so we're dropping it.
In no way does this project forbid replacement submissions from other games/franchises. This is simply a united, organized effort to deal with the substandard sheets one game at a time.
What you need to know:
-If you begin work on a sheet, post here letting me know so I can edit the target post (the next one) with the updated information. This keeps multiple people from working on the same song at the same time.
-Can't arrange? No problem; critique other sheets that either have not been looked at yet, or have just been revised.
-There is no limit to how many sheets one may work on simultaneously but I would recommend no more than 3 and strongly dissuade any more than 5.
-If you fix a sheet, your name will appear on the song list (on the Target Post) as the sheet modifier; however your name will not be listed as the arranger on the main site. Nor can you change the original arranger's name to your own on the sheet itself. This may only be done if the sheet was so dramatically changed that it counts as a replacement.
Altering the original arranger's name on a sheet without just cause is considered plagiarism and is strictly prohibited.
For more information on replacements, refer here (http://forum.ninsheetm.us/index.php?topic=6238.0).
Who to contact for questions, comments, and/or concerns regarding this whole endeavor:
Either Yours Truly (http://forum.ninsheetm.us/index.php?action=profile;u=1217), or Olimar12345 (http://forum.ninsheetm.us/index.php?action=profile).
This is the "Target Post". This basically will tell us which game is our primary focus right now, and which songs have been done and which haven't.
Our current target is:
Pokémon Red/Blue Version (http://www.ninsheetm.us/sheetmusic.php?series=Pokemon)Progress: 100%All formatting information will be provided below. Please use the information there word for word to avoid any differences between sheets. (Feel free to copy/paste if you'd like)
Note: When claiming a sheet, please list all of the sheets that you are claiming in the thread so that we may prevent confusion. Please be as clear as possible.Second Note: If a song is on the site under an incorrect title, find the title that matches the OST*. This information should be given in the spoiler assigned to that song.Third Note: Before sending a song in, please make sure the notes are accurate. No sheet will gain approval unless it is close to completely accurate. (if not completely)Fourth Note: The "Specifics" given for each sheet are only the things I spot after about 15 seconds of looking at the sheet and therefore may not necessarily be all of the issues. It's part of your job to hunt for more.Status Color Code:Red: This sheet has not yet been fixed. A diagnose of problems will be provided in a spoiler.
Yellow: This sheet is currently being fixed.
Brown: This sheet has been reworked but still hasn't met current standards. Work on this sheet has been dropped by the original modifier. Treatment is identical to red. This sheet is up for grabs.
Blue: This sheet has been fixed and has gained approval from myself and all of you (as far as you have spoken). However this sheet still lacks approval from Olimar12345 or TheDekuTrombonist. Such approval is pending. (Hang tight! ;))
Green: This sheet has been fixed and has gained approval from a sufficient number of moderators and thereby will be uploaded.
Black: This song will be gone by the time we're done. Don't bother trying to save it.
Formatting information:Please use the information here as precisely as possible.
How to get the accented 'é' into the sheet:
The accented 'é' is typed on Windows PCs by holding 'Alt' and pressing 0, 2, 3, 3 on the number pad in that order. The 'Alt' key may only be released after the number combination is complete. Sometimes a space afterwards is needed to make the character appear.
If you are not using a Windows PC, copy/paste the character into the sheet.
How to get the copyright symbol (©) into the sheet:
The copyright symbol (©) is typed on Windows PCs by holding 'Alt' and pressing 0, 1, 6, 9 on the number pad in that order. The 'Alt' key may only be released after the number combination is complete. Sometimes a space afterwards is needed to make the character appear.
If you are not using a Windows PC, copy/paste the character into the sheet.
-Song Title: Titles are taken from the FireRed/LeafGreen OST. The OST can be found here (https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/pokemon-firered-pokemon-leafgreen/id771135133).
-Game Name: Pokémon Red/Blue Version (If a song is exclusively from Pokémon Yellow Version, write that in as was just shown here. Further details on this situation are given below.)
-Composer: Junichi Masuda
-Copyright/Year: Nintendo, GameFreak © 1996
-URL: http://www.NinSheetMusic.org/
Song List and Status:All done, fellas!!! (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=7466.msg306775#msg306775)
*if applicable
Quote from: JDMEK5 on July 25, 2013, 05:59:13 PM-Song Title: Titles are song specific. OST titles are given below. (The OST used is that of Pokémon FireRed/LeafGreen Version (http://vgmdb.net/album/4336) since no OST for Red/Blue/Yellow exists)
http://vgmdb.net/album/141
Anyways, I'm down for helping out with this project. Later tonight I'll look over the sheets on the site and try to fix some.
Quote from: Echo on July 25, 2013, 06:22:56 PMhttp://vgmdb.net/album/141
Now that is neat. Fixed the target post.
You can definitely count me in.
BTW, the easiest way to make the © symbol is to press CTRL + ALT + C. The easiest way to make an é is to change your keyboard to international (Control panel --> Region and Language --> Keyboards and Languages.)
I've got Route 1 covered.
[MUS] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/30676753/PKMN-RBY%20-%20Route%201.mus)
[MIDI] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/30676753/PKMN-RBY%20-%20Route%201.mid)
[PDF] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/30676753/PKMN-RBY%20-%20Route%201.pdf)
Tell me if I should change "Route" to "Road" in the title.
Beautiful job Echo! Yes, "Route" should become "Road".
The only other thing is that triplet. It should be two 32nds with a 16th.
But don't worry about either of those things cause I already fixed them! This gets a big stamp of approval from me.
Thanks for your contribution Echo!
Quote from: FireArrow on July 25, 2013, 07:02:08 PMBTW, the easiest way to make the © symbol is to press CTRL + ALT + C. The easiest way to make an é is to change your keyboard to international (Control panel --> Region and Language --> Keyboards and Languages.)
The © method isn't working for me, and the é would be quicker the way I have it laid out there. It doesn't involve leaving the keyboard to find the mouse.
It doesn't?
Once you set the keyboard to international, you type ' + e to makes it.
I'll do Pokemon Center.
Route 1 has been approved by both Olimar and I. Congratulations Echo! :P
What a wonderfully organised list! Sounds like a much better plan to work on each game separately. (Omg, this soundtrack brings back memories...)
If you don't mind, I would love to help out. :)
Sorry about not letting you know if I'm planning on working on any of the sheets, I seriously thought it would only take me a few minutes to fix each one of these. The instructions are so clear and most sheets already look (almost) fabulous, even a monkey like me could do it.
Edit: Don's list is much better! I crossed off the ones that he has done. ;)
Pokémon Tower:
[MUS] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/108749630/Fixing%20the%20Sheets/Pok%C3%A9monTower.mus)
[PDF] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/108749630/Fixing%20the%20Sheets/Pok%C3%A9monTower.pdf)
Route 12 (Road to Lavender Town - From Vermillion):
[MUS] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/108749630/Fixing%20the%20Sheets/RoadToLavenderTown-FromVermillion.mus)
[PDF] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/108749630/Fixing%20the%20Sheets/RoadToLavenderTown-FromVermillion.pdf)
[MIDI] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/108749630/Fixing%20the%20Sheets/RoadToLavenderTown-FromVermillion.mid)
Route 24 (To Bill's House - From Cerulean):
[MUS] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/108749630/Fixing%20the%20Sheets/ToBill%27sHouse-FromCerulean.mus)
[PDF] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/108749630/Fixing%20the%20Sheets/ToBill%27sHouse-FromCerulean.pdf)
[MIDI] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/108749630/Fixing%20the%20Sheets/ToBill%27sHouse-FromCerulean.mid)
Route 3 (Road to Cerulean – From Mt. Moon):
[MUS] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/108749630/Fixing%20the%20Sheets/RoadToCerulean%E2%80%93FromMt.Moon.mus)
[PDF] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/108749630/Fixing%20the%20Sheets/RoadToCerulean%E2%80%93FromMt.Moon.pdf)
S.S. Anne:
[MUS] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/108749630/Fixing%20the%20Sheets/S.S.Anne.mus)
[PDF] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/108749630/Fixing%20the%20Sheets/S.S.Anne.pdf)
[MIDI] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/108749630/Fixing%20the%20Sheets/S.S.Anne.mid)
Show Me Around (Come With Me):
[MUS] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/108749630/Fixing%20the%20Sheets/ComeWithMe.mus)
[PDF] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/108749630/Fixing%20the%20Sheets/ComeWithMe.pdf)
I'll keep quiet for now, but would be happy to be of service later if required.
Note that Don Valentino arranged some of these songs.
Quote from: Onionleaf on July 27, 2013, 04:11:59 AMIf you don't mind, I would love to help out. :)
Too bad. I do mind. .... lol jk XD.
(Laughed at my own joke)I'm going to go through your list soon. Don't have enough time now, but I hope to be done by the end of the day.
Sorry for not mentioning it, but for a song to be accepted all the way, it has to be accurate to the original if it wasn't before.
The list of "specifics" isn't necessarily everything that's wrong with the sheet; it's just what I saw after looking at it for 10 seconds.
However that doesn't mean your contributions are going to waste. Olimar and I should be able to fix most accuracy problems that might still be in the sheet. And some were perfectly accurate to begin with then anyways.
The target post will updated once I get through them all.
Thanks for your help Onionleaf!
EDIT: I'm going down the list and all of them are getting in with minor alterations for the most part, except for Route 24. Sorry for not stating it sooner but I just realized how horribly inaccurate that sheet is. To be honest, I think it's due for a replacement altogether. Of course, that's not your fault though.
Quote from: Yugi on July 27, 2013, 04:18:55 AMNote that Don Valentino arranged some of these songs.
Thanks for telling me. I'll look into that.
"S.S. Anne" is the correct title. The OST just has "St. Anne" because that's what the ship's called in the Japanese games.
^Got that fixed. Thanks.
"Intro 1" and "Intro 2" are not separate pieces. They should be together, under the name "Opening" or "~Opening~"
^I mentioned that in the "Specs" for both. I also have that noted in my special chart for the updater once this is all done. ;)
In case you haven't noticed, the songs listed on the OP are under the names they have on site. Therefore, I had to have Intro 1 and Intro 2 separate.
I have the replacement for Pokémon Gym :D
[PDF] (https://www.dropbox.com/s/ecbzwmrqkanjezk/Pok%C3%A9mon%20Gym%20RBY%20-%20Piano.pdf)
[MUS] (https://www.dropbox.com/s/0t9632iac33kwvl/Pok%C3%A9mon%20Gym%20RBY.mus)
[MIDI] (https://www.dropbox.com/s/zkhx8z0hd8ibiet/Pok%C3%A9mon%20Gym%20RBY.mid)
The issue in the previous version was mostly register, so I just went ahead and did an old fashioned transcription. Let me know if this is good.
Haven't listened to it but you'll want to put quotation marks around the title of the piece and shrink the size of the subtitle (game's name) to 12.
One thing that sticks out is that you'll want to make the 3rd beat evident, since it's in 4/4.
Ex/ measure 2 in the RH should be a half note tied to an eighth note, instead of a dotted half note. On measure 6, it should be an eighth note tied to a half note. What you did on 11, on the other hand, is totally correct.
Hm, really? I'd always been taught that a tied note within a measure is only required when the next attacked note (EDIT: or the first note being tied) isn't on the beat, like in measure 11. I see dotted half notes in 4/4 all the time. In fact, that's how Jamey Aebersold and Robert King (I just picked two 4/4 pieces I had nearby) do it. Hell, even Holst puts quarter notes on the "and" of a beat. Maybe what you're talking about is just a piano thing, but then again, even the beginner's piano instruction booklet that came with my new keyboard has dotted half notes in 4/4.
Also, if I were to tie it over the center of the bar, wouldn't I only tie it to an eighth note if I wanted to release it right on beat 3? There's no notable space between the notes in the original song, so I didn't really see a need to do that.
Sorry if I seem overly defensive about this, haha, I'm just a little hesitant to change the way that I've been writing for years. I will go ahead and change the issues with the title that you pointed out, though :P
Anyways, here's the replacement for Route 24 lol nevermind I saw it marked as "needs fixed" on the list and didn't notice that onion already did it >.< but onion did a good job on it so all is well :)
Sorry for my unspoken leave of absence, everyone. I am unfortunately pressed for time right now so I'll get back to you all on everything I missed soon. (Hopefully tomorrow)
Quote from: Nayru64 on August 01, 2013, 11:28:35 PMI have the replacement for Pokémon Gym :D
[PDF] (https://www.dropbox.com/s/ecbzwmrqkanjezk/Pok%C3%A9mon%20Gym%20RBY%20-%20Piano.pdf)
[MUS] (https://www.dropbox.com/s/0t9632iac33kwvl/Pok%C3%A9mon%20Gym%20RBY.mus)
[MIDI] (https://www.dropbox.com/s/zkhx8z0hd8ibiet/Pok%C3%A9mon%20Gym%20RBY.mid)
The issue in the previous version was mostly register, so I just went ahead and did an old fashioned transcription. Let me know if this is good.
It's better but I added the third voice and moved it down an octave. Now it's even better
Finished a few more. Just to remind everyone; just because this project is quiet doesn't mean it's dead!
I've been doing this recently with some Zelda stuff. If this gets updated faster, I might as well.
"~Opening~" (Replaces "Intro 1" and "Intro 2")
[MUS] (http://tinyurl.com/kqu39rr) [MIDI] (http://tinyurl.com/oqz3lrn) [PDF] (http://tinyurl.com/ktor63y)
Intro 1: Fixed a couple more things here too that weren't accurate. Extra measures/wrong notes. Also added articulations. I'm not changing the Db's because it's pretty horrible to read that.
"Battle (VS Gym Leader)" (Replaces "Gym Leader Battle")
[MUS] (http://tinyurl.com/pbapcha) [MIDI] (http://tinyurl.com/lat7m4h) [PDF] (http://tinyurl.com/qbjum3v)
"Oak's Laboratory" (Replaces "Oak's Lab")
[MUS] (http://tinyurl.com/lbt5zdd) [MIDI] (http://tinyurl.com/onx5rwv) [PDF] (http://tinyurl.com/pzf6284)
I ended up completely redoing the left hand. So there's that.
"S.S. Anne" (Replaces "S.S. Anne")
[MUS] (http://tinyurl.com/mncrso6) [MIDI] (http://tinyurl.com/ldlzmjs) [PDF] (http://tinyurl.com/m8xajpq)
(Fixed by Bespinben, his links are later in the thread)
"Silph Co." (Replaces "Silph Co.")
[MUS] (http://tinyurl.com/p2k7zy5) [MIDI] (http://tinyurl.com/mwwclmy) [PDF] (http://tinyurl.com/nlntoz4)
Somebody should probably check the accidentals here. They're all over the place.
"Theme of Pallet Town" (Replaces "Pallet Town")
[MUS] (http://tinyurl.com/klsfj52) [MIDI] (http://tinyurl.com/lq7fhtr) [PDF] (http://tinyurl.com/npjemv8)
"Victory Road" (Replaces "Indigo Plateau")
[MUS] (http://tinyurl.com/nfu8cca) [MIDI] (http://tinyurl.com/lxjokfb) [PDF] (http://tinyurl.com/owu4rts)
This one took a little more fixing than what's listed. I'm inclined to double the speed and note lengths mostly because the tempo I was getting was a pretty even 72.5 bpm from the OST, which happens to double nicely to 145 bpm. There was an extraneous measure. The repeat is correct. Articulations were kinda contradictory, and this probably achieves a more accurate sound anyway. I felt like the split articulations in 13-16 were necessary. Notes in what are now measures 4 and 6 and similar were incorrect. The rest sounds fine to me, but might not be completely right.
"Viridian Forest" (Replaces "Viridian Forest")
[MUS] (http://tinyurl.com/oytjf9d) [MIDI] (http://tinyurl.com/kkev2k3) [PDF] (http://tinyurl.com/qgtg2lx)
^ It's officially "Caves of Mt. Moon" in the English FireRed/LeafGreen OST. The Japanese title for the song in the RBY OST is the same as the track in the FR/LG one, so I'd consider that the most official title for it.
I forgot we had this.
I might start on this then
Crap. I don't know why but till now the thread hasn't said anything new happened here. Got some catching up to do..
I have 7 more days of hell school. After that I can start being productive.
Sounds good!
Whoops. I reorganized my dropbox and forgot to update the links. Anyway, they're all fixed and in one post now.
Awesome. Thanks. I don't have a whole lot of time now, but I looked through a few and updated the list. I still have a few to go but one that still needs a little improvement is "~Opening~" (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/81425442/Finished/~Replacements/Pokemon%20Red%20%26%20Blue/~Opening~/~Opening~.mus). Here's the scoop:
-Bass in measures 12-27 is wrong. Mostly a matter of wrong timing.
-Any harmony for the lower voice in measures 12-27 (right hand)?
-There's extra harmony in the right hand in measures 25-30.
-Lower fills in measures 28-31 should be written in the lower voice of the treble clef, not the upper voice of the bass.
Also added a progress quote at the top of the target post for encouragement purposes. ;)
-Copied the correct one over from the one QWERTYkid did
-I added a little more, but the entire voice is there and more. Not sure what else you want.
-That's definitely there...
-They already are. I moved the notes that weren't up there, but putting the entire thing in that octave is too big of a stretch. It works in the left hand just fine, but if you don't like it there, okay.
-(1-3) Haha ok must be just my ear today then. Or these blasted headphones. Idk. I'll get back to it soon.
>>>*booty bump*<<<
All right, guys. I didn't really see that grounding coming but now that I'm back I can get to work on this stuff. I'll go fix up Jigglewigglepuffy's Song and Pokemon Center right now, is that fine?
JDMEK, you might want to put a link to Olimar's Guide to Making Replacement Arrangements (http://forum.ninsheetm.us/index.php?topic=6238.0) in the original post, because a lot of these wouldn't qualify to have "Edited by ______" listed for whoever makes the fixes.
Also, I'm probably going through a bunch of these in a bit.
Quote from: FierceDeity on June 30, 2014, 07:13:08 PMJDMEK, you might want to put a link to Olimar's Guide to Making Replacement Arrangements (http://forum.ninsheetm.us/index.php?topic=6238.0) in the original post, because a lot of these wouldn't qualify to have "Edited by ______" listed for whoever makes the fixes.
Yeah, most of these songs don't really need major technical fixes anyway.
Before you start from scratch, check the list I made. Not everything is perfect, but they're improved, and JDMEK hasn't updated the list for all of them.
Once I finish with Pawville, I'll fix a couple of songs, Jigglypuff's Song and Team Rocket Hideout. GOTTA FIX THEM ALL!!!
Now that school has ended I'm now going to devote much time once again into this poor neglected project. (Sorry guys!)
Now I just have to pick up where I left off.. Maybe a good start would be to locate the files that I backed up on my local memory before the NSM dropbox folder went kapeesh. If anyone sees that I'm forgetting something, please let me know.
Quote from: AwesomeYears on April 10, 2015, 07:38:10 PMGOTTA FIX THEM ALL!!!
I like your attitude. It's "awesome".
(Haha, get it? Cuz ur name is "AwesomeYears"? Oh, I crack myself up..)Quote from: braixen1264 on June 30, 2014, 06:43:52 PM>>>*booty bump*<<<
All right, guys. I didn't really see that grounding coming but now that I'm back I can get to work on this stuff. I'll go fix up Jigglewigglepuffy's Song and Pokemon Center right now, is that fine?
Yes please: if you're still up for it, we'd much appreciate the help! Although since it's been so long I'll request maybe a confirmation that you're still gonna take them before I put your name down having claimed them.
ONE MORE IMPORTANT NOTE I FORGOT TO MENTION:
Most of you probably are already aware but I'm going to take this second to remind everyone that we now have a new website URL to use. I've updated it on the OP and I'll take care of updating that on all finished sheets we have so far already. Just keep that in mind for future fixes.
I'm going to be slowly feeding my fixed sheets through my submissions. Would you like an update when/if they get accepted?
Also, I think the links are broken on the list I put up last time. I'll fix that later.
Quote from: JDMEK5 on April 14, 2015, 11:03:09 PMNow that school has ended I'm now going to devote much time once again into this poor neglected project.
Woah today was the last day of classes for Uni. today too! Though, I need to catch up after my 2 year hiatus, so classes during spring and summer are a must. Hasn't seemed to hinder my NSM-ing.... yet.
(Srsly, I'm 21 and I'm still a Freshman)
Quote from: Zunawe on April 14, 2015, 11:17:00 PMI'm going to be slowly feeding my fixed sheets through my submissions. Would you like an update when/if they get accepted?
Yes please. I'll be updating the OP as this happens.
Quote from: Zunawe on April 14, 2015, 11:17:00 PMAlso, I think the links are broken on the list I put up last time. I'll fix that later.
Yes please.
I can't recall the list you speak of (embarrassingly enough) but maybe it's not worth my time to look for it if the links are broken anyways. Sorry for the huge break. Found it. I'll be adding those as soon as you put them back up.
Ok so I've taken an inventory check to make sure I still have all the sheets that were fixed on the OP (which I've just updated to include your list, Zunawe) and they've all been accounted for, save two. Those would be my Celadon City, and Echo's Route 1. Sad thing is that they had both attained green status but since I did Celadon City, it won't be hard for me to redo it. I could do Echo's over again as well but before I give up his work, I'm gonna ask if maybe anyone still has a copy of these somewhere. If not then I'm not sure what other choice I have than to return it to it's old, unfinished status..FOUND THEM!!
EDIT: Status update: I've now got all my ducks in a row again and the only thing left to do to get the completion percentile to 100 is to finish up the others, and get them looked at by mods. So let's pick up where we left off, everybody! Gotta fix 'em all!
Quote from: JDMEK5 on April 14, 2015, 11:28:29 PMFOUND THEM!!
Is there any way for me to see all the sheets in one place so I can print/play them? Or give feedback or something.
(Also, btw. Thanks for picking this back up! I love having good sheets for my favorite songs. I look forward to hopefully playing them on my YouTube channel.)
List is updated. Let me know if any of the links are wrong. I may have mixed .mus and .mid files. I still need to fix the urls from when I last edited them.
Quote from: Latios212 on April 15, 2015, 11:20:10 AMIs there any way for me to see all the sheets in one place so I can print/play them? Or give feedback or something.
Here you go though this folder doesn't include the ones Zunawe has in his 'list'.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/93589150/Fixing%20the%20Sheets%20Project%20Backup.zip)
Quote from: Latios212 on April 15, 2015, 11:20:10 AM(Also, btw. Thanks for picking this back up! I love having good sheets for my favorite songs. I look forward to hopefully playing them on my YouTube channel.)
Heck, I should never have dropped this but c'est la vie. Hey if you do end up doing the YouTube thing send me a link and maybe I'll put a link to a playlist on the OP or something.. ::)
Quote from: Zunawe on April 15, 2015, 11:37:07 AMList is updated. Let me know if any of the links are wrong. I may have mixed .mus and .mid files. I still need to fix the urls from when I last edited them.
Ok thanks! I'll check them out tonight!
Never mind tonight, I looked through them now and realized that Pallet is still missing a whole 'nother voice. For that reason what I'm thinking is I'll delete this one and just arrange it myself from scratch and see what I get. I'll do a replacement altogether.
Forgive me.....I'm not very familiar with Pokemon but is the same game that we voted to do next on the replacement project?
Quote from: JDMEK5 on April 15, 2015, 11:41:52 AMHere you go though this folder doesn't include the ones Zunawe has in his 'list'. (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/93589150/Fixing%20the%20Sheets%20Project%20Backup.zip)
Hey, thanks! I'm having a lot of fun looking over them! :D
I've noticed though, for "Cinnabar Island" there's a lot more to be done.
- Measures 13-15 should be removed.
- The sheet should reflect the sudden pauses, like the one in measure 2.
- The left hand doesn't match what the song sounds like - I also hear a lot of 16th notes not reflected in the sheet.
- There are notes missing in measure 8 in the right hand.
Quote from: mariolegofan on April 15, 2015, 02:06:01 PMForgive me.....I'm not very familiar with Pokemon but is the same game that we voted to do next on the replacement project?
Nope! These are tracks from the original Pokémon Red/Blue games for the Game Boy Color, but Pokémon Diamond/Pearl were the fourth-generation games released for the DS back in 2006. Very different music! :)
Oh.....my bad :p
Mlf, you have got to play pokemon. I see the world of gaming as a circular spectrum. Right in the middle circle is Super Mario, The Legend of Zelda, and Pokémon. In the next ring out there's Kirby, Donkey Kong, Star Fox, and other such. In the outer circle from that is F-Zero, Pikmin, Animal Crossing, Banjo-Kazooie, Assassin's Creed, etc. But I feel Mario, Zelda, and Pokémon are the 3 series necessary for a basic gaming experience.
Quote from: Latios212 on April 15, 2015, 02:52:34 PMI've noticed though, for "Cinnabar Island" there's a lot more to be done.
- Measures 13-15 should be removed.
- The sheet should reflect the sudden pauses, like the one in measure 2.
- The left hand doesn't match what the song sounds like - I also hear a lot of 16th notes not reflected in the sheet.
- There are notes missing in measure 8 in the right hand.
Good call. Finding more things to fix is part of the purpose of this project!
Quote from: JDMEK5 on April 15, 2015, 04:08:41 PMMlf, you have got to play pokemon. I see the world of gaming as a circular spectrum. Right in the middle circle is Super Mario, The Legend of Zelda, and Pokémon. In the next ring out there's Kirby, Donkey Kong, Star Fox, and other such. In the outer circle from that is F-Zero, Pikmin, Animal Crossing, Banjo-Kazooie, Assassin's Creed, etc. But I feel Mario, Zelda, and Pokémon are the 3 series necessary for a basic gaming experience.
You're exactly right!
I've played like every Mario game and I'm working into Zelda.....haven't gotten to Pokemon yet though. I'm not really into the shooters (Call of Duty, Assassins Creed, Grand Theft Auto etc.).
I don't have enough friends for Animal Crossing, Pikmin I haven't gotten around to yet, Banjo Kazooie and Tooie I love and mastered, and I don't really like Donkey Kong and Star Fox.
Quote from: JDMEK5 on April 15, 2015, 04:09:19 PMGood call. Finding more things to fix is part of the purpose of this project!
I got more coming!
Take a look at the Game Corner Theme. Measures 19, 20, 23, 24, and 26 should be written with two layers since there are multiple voices, I think.
Also it seems weird to me that the first page alternates between measures with one and measures with two layers. Should measures 5, 9, and 13 be written with two layers also?
I'll begin working on Pokémon center so you JDMEK5 knows.
Here's my version of Pokémon Center:
[ZIP]
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24842881/Pok%C3%A9mon%20Center.zip)
Btw a small question:
How do you link your dropbox link but on the forum naming it something else like [ZIP], or PDF??
[url=http://www.website.com]This becomes a link[/url]
This becomes a link (http://www.website.com)
Quote from: mariolegofan on April 16, 2015, 09:05:40 AMI'm not really into the shooters (Call of Duty, Assassins Creed, Grand Theft Auto etc.).
Assassin's Creed isn't exactly a shooter but I get what you mean. XD
Quote from: Latios212 on April 16, 2015, 12:37:47 PMTake a look at the Game Corner Theme. Measures 19, 20, 23, 24, and 26 should be written with two layers since there are multiple voices, I think.
Also it seems weird to me that the first page alternates between measures with one and measures with two layers. Should measures 5, 9, and 13 be written with two layers also?
You're sorta right I think. In measures 19, 20, 23, 24, and 26 you are for sure. It should be notated differently with sustained notes in each voice. But in 5, 9, and 13 I think either way would be acceptable. Your suggestion does make sense but I don't think we necessarily have to change it. It's debatable.
Quote from: Tobbeh99 on April 16, 2015, 04:22:06 PMHere's my version of Pokémon Center:
[ZIP]
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24842881/Pok%C3%A9mon%20Center.zip)
Awesome! I don't have time atm tonight but first thing tomorrow morning I'm looking at this. Thanks!
I've made some small changes to Pokémon Center:
[ZIP] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24842881/Pok%C3%A9mon%20R%2CB%2CY%20-%20Pok%C3%A9mon%20Center.zip)
I'll begin working on Vermillion City. :)
Here is Vermillion City(Replacement):
[ZIP] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24842881/Pok%C3%A9mon%20R%2CB%2CY%20-%20Vermillion%20City.zip)
Quote from: Tobbeh99 on April 17, 2015, 07:22:35 AMHere is Vermillion City(Replacement):
[ZIP] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24842881/Pok%C3%A9mon%20R%2CB%2CY%20-%20Vermillion%20City.zip)
Awesome! This is great! ;D
One thing though. I think measures 2 and 6, beat 4, should be 16th-16th-8th as opposed to 8th-16th-16th. Someone verify this.
Quote from: Latios212 on April 17, 2015, 08:52:42 AMAwesome! This is great! ;D
One thing though. I think measures 2 and 6, beat 4, should be 16th-16th-8th as opposed to 8th-16th-16th. Someone verify this.
Aye. You are right. But this is a gorgeous arrangement. Well done, Tobbeh!
Quote from: Tobbeh99 on April 17, 2015, 06:00:36 AMI've made some small changes to Pokémon Center:
[ZIP] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24842881/Pok%C3%A9mon%20R%2CB%2CY%20-%20Pok%C3%A9mon%20Center.zip)
I have nothing to say. Spectacular job!
Did anyone fix measure 2 and 6 or should I fix it and link it??
Oh no I've got it. Don't worry. ;) Thanks though!
I will start working on the last 2:
Route 24 & Viridian City
Here it is!
Route 24(Road to Bill's House - from Cerulean[ZIP] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24842881/Pok%C3%A9mon%20R%2CB%2CY%20-%20To%20Bill%27s%20House%20from%20Cerulean.zip)
Viridian City(Pewter City)[ZIP] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24842881/Pok%C3%A9mon%20R%2CB%2CY%20-%20Pewter%20City.zip)
I don't know if they are replacement or just editing, so I let you decide.
Quote from: Tobbeh99 on April 18, 2015, 04:11:35 PMHere it is!
Route 24(Road to Bill's House - from Cerulean[ZIP] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24842881/Pok%C3%A9mon%20R%2CB%2CY%20-%20To%20Bill%27s%20House%20from%20Cerulean.zip)
Viridian City(Pewter City)[ZIP] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24842881/Pok%C3%A9mon%20R%2CB%2CY%20-%20Pewter%20City.zip)
I don't know if they are replacement or just editing, so I let you decide.
Dude, you're
really good at this. So fast, too! ;)
I can't thank you guys enough for providing such high quality sheets of my favorite songs...
It would be nice if someone could update the list so that it says that I am working on/am finished with Route 24 and Viridian City. :)
*whistles* derp, here I am. List updated. I'll be looking over it when I can, probably Wednesday or something.
Man, that's beautiful. No more red, and just about all of them are blue. Once that's the case, we'll get the mods in here to finish this thing off and we're on our way!
Great!
Maybe we could get the Banjo project and this updated at the same time! :)
Well I was gonna use your mods after you were done with them but if you want to wait till our stuff is checked over too, then that's ok. But you might as well just go as soon as you're ready especially cuz it'll really excite the general populous more to see two projects back-to-back as opposed to one big one.
Quote from: JDMEK5 on April 21, 2015, 01:10:35 PMWell I was gonna use your mods after you were done with them but if you want to wait till our stuff is checked over too, then that's ok. But you might as well just go as soon as you're ready especially cuz it'll really excite the general populous more to see two projects back-to-back as opposed to one big one.
Whatever works :)
Haha well I was saying it's all your call so I guess I'll find out what you decide to do later. Makes little difference to me. Just don't start DPPt without us. ;)
Wow, after more than two years, this might actually happen! xD I'm loving the community interest/activity here lately. Keep up the good work guys, and I'll see if I can't help out once I'm out of school :D
Yay!! Wait, holy shit it has been 2 years. Holy smokes I thought it was just one. Dang. Sorry everybody!
Quote from: Olimar12345 on April 21, 2015, 07:10:23 PMWow, after more than two years, this might actually happen! xD I'm loving the community interest/activity here lately. Keep up the good work guys, and I'll see if I can't help out once I'm out of school :D
Excellent!!!!! I were lucky we might be able to get 3 projects done before summer is out (banjo, paper mario and this one)! :)
If this one wasn't already finished, I'd help :)
Edit: I have a question. So will this project get its own update or.....?
Quote from: mariolegofan on April 21, 2015, 08:23:40 PMEdit: I have a question. So will this project get its own update or.....?
Originally that's what I imagined but heck, if you want to put the other(s) on hold until we finish this one and release them all at once, that's cool too. Although it may be better marketing to let them out individually. In little poops.
Quote from: JDMEK5 on April 21, 2015, 08:54:18 PMAlthough it may be better marketing to let them out individually. In little poops.
Yeah. I'd say individually.
The banjo one is taking so long to go through cause the songs are sooooo long. But when we get around to the Paper Mario one, it should speed up drastically. Almost all those songs are pretty short. :)
Surf is accepted, but not yet uploaded.
Quote from: Zunawe on April 22, 2015, 10:01:51 AMSurf is accepted, but not yet uploaded.
Perfect. List updated.
ey, just noticed a small error in my pokémon center sheet. The tempo text says Allegro Gioioso(with 2 blank-spaces in between the words) but it's supposed to say Allgro Gioioso, with only one. I fixed that so please use my new sheet(it's the only change I made).Here's the Zip file:[ZIP] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24842881/Pok%C3%A9mon%20R%2CB%2CY%20-%20Pok%C3%A9mon%20Center.zip)
I'll get the two done hopefully today :)
Team Rocket Hideout-
[PDF] (https://www.dropbox.com/s/vpj25zgkhlxku1x/Pokemon%20Red%20Blue-%20Team%20Rocket%20Hideout.pdf?dl=0)
[MIDI] (https://www.dropbox.com/s/oy1b4ozn9jn7nwr/Pokemon%20RedBlueYellow%20-%20Team%20Rocket%20Hideout.mid?dl=0)
[MUS] (https://www.dropbox.com/s/b3zyf0ddn5kyumq/Pokemon%20RedBlueYellow%20-%20Team%20Rocket%20Hideout.mus?dl=0)
Jigglypuff's Song-
[PDF] (https://www.dropbox.com/s/x2hjks9mv35ag5g/Pokemon%20RedBlue%20-%20Jigglypuff%27s%20Song.pdf?dl=0)
[MIDI] (https://www.dropbox.com/s/97fk8uhlnze7jex/Pokemon%20RedBlue%20-%20Jigglypuf%27fs%20Song.mid?dl=0)
[MUS] (https://www.dropbox.com/s/b3zyf0ddn5kyumq/Pokemon%20RedBlueYellow%20-%20Team%20Rocket%20Hideout.mus?dl=0)
Team Rocket Hideout:
- End of first measure missing two notes in the LH. I think they're the same as the ones in measure 36.
- Delete that quarter note in measure 23. Why does that measure have different accidentals than the ones around it?
- End of measure 24 missing another 16th note.
- Check note durations for measures 25-32 - I'm not sure about the current choice of dotted quarters vs. quarter + eighth rests.
- Measure 13, RH should be a Eb rather than D.
- Measures 21-24 should probably be transposed down an octave or something. I don't think they need to be octaves, either.
- Needs dynamics. Especially the first measure.
Jigglypuff's Song:
Quote from: JDMEK5 on July 25, 2013, 05:59:13 PM-Measures 2-5, right hand is the whole song. All else, including the left hand, as far as I know, is extra and therefore should be removed.
-Someone should have another good look at the timing there.
- I think the last two notes in current measure 4 are the same duration.
- Fix your MUS link.
I'll be back in tomorrow (Wednesday latest) to catch up on this and make updates and fixes and stuff. Good work guys! Keep it up!
So, how goes?
Taken care of Rocket Hideout. I'll tackle Jigglypuff's Song tonight. Once that's done I'll reset the progress percentile.
Umm.....
Aha. The link for Jigglypuff's Song is wrong. Can we get that fixed? I'll redo it off the PDF if it comes to it but yeah, that kinda defeats the purpose sorta.
*bump*
We're so close. Don't let it die.
Ah fear not, my friends. I have not forgotten. Progress has just been a bit slowed lately. I'll be back in a bit with updates.
Latios212 and I discovered that many of the "ready to go" sheets were still far from ready. Celadon City was one of these, the countermelody having been incorrectly transcribed and sometimes entirely missing. Also added articulation and dynamics.
[GB] Pokémon Red/Blue/Yellow/Green:
"Celadon City":
[MIDI] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35209091/RBY%20-%20Celadon%20City.mid) [MUS] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35209091/RBY%20-%20Celadon%20City.mus) [PDF] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35209091/RBY%20-%20Celadon%20City.pdf) [MUSX] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35209091/RBY%20-%20Celadon%20City.musx)
It might be wise to re-evaluate the work already done so far, considering this song prior to being edited today was one of the "green" status ones.
Quote from: Bespinben on June 15, 2015, 09:41:50 PMLatios212 and I discovered that many of the "ready to go" sheets were still far from ready. Celadon City was one of these, the countermelody having been incorrectly transcribed and sometimes entirely missing. Also added articulation and dynamics.
It might be wise to re-evaluate the work already done so far, considering this song prior to being edited today was one of the "green" status ones.
Absolutely. Even now we've kinda just been waiting for a free mod who's not busy with the Banjo-Kazooie one. But I completely agree.
Zunawe's already submitted his Surf arrangement I believe so aside from possibly the URL I would imagine that one's good to go, and Echo's was redone but yeah we can definitely have another look at it.
And I hate to be this picky but I'm going to be this picky and say that under game name, we're just putting Red/Blue. Just for the sake of uniformity throughout the whole thing.
Title immediately fixed!
Quote from: JDMEK5 on June 15, 2015, 11:32:16 PMZunawe's already submitted his Surf arrangement I believe so aside from possibly the URL I would imagine that one's good to go
It's already on-site mah boi!
Spoiler
Quote from: Bespinben on May 10, 2015, 10:42:04 PMMother's Day special upload! Well, nothing new really. Besides these awesome sheets of course.
[GB] Pokémon Red/Blue/Yellow
"Surf Theme" (Replacement) by Zunawe
Quote from: Bespinben on June 15, 2015, 11:48:38 PMTitle immediately fixed!
Haha you uh, kinda missed the 'Version' part now. :P
"Pokémon Red/Blue Version"Quote from: Bespinben on June 15, 2015, 11:48:38 PMIt's already on-site mah boi!
Lol yeah there you go. I was just too lazy to check. :P
Did you finish revamping Game Corner and Cinnabar Island?
Yes I did in fact.
I also did Jigglypuff's Song but I ran into a bit of an issue. The actual tune is vastly different from what the original sounds like.
Here's dahans' arrangement (https://www.dropbox.com/s/x2hjks9mv35ag5g/Pokemon%20RedBlue%20-%20Jigglypuff%27s%20Song.pdf?dl=0)
Here's the original (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T516lq251Wk)
I simplified it down to match the original on a single staff, leaving dahans' name on it but is that what we should do in this situation? Ideas?
Did Dahans do the version from the TV show that showed up when I googled it?
Perhaps. But I don't think that matters. All we care about here is the game version last I checked.
I mean you could write "edited by JDMEK5" since you "edited" the arrangement in a way.
I could I suppose but all I really did was change the key and get rid of like, all of it. XD
The next entry in RBY overhaul, brought to you by LatiosBespinbenFan! By merging the countermelody into the RH as a 2nd layer, we were able to add in the missing 3rd voice for measures 1-12, and then for m. 13+ the LH was given the two voices to play while the RH occupies itself with the more industrious melody on the B section.
[GB] Pokémon Red/Blue/Yellow/Green:
"S.S. Anne":
[MIDI] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35209091/RBY%20-%20SS%20Anne.mid) [MUS] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35209091/RBY%20-%20SS%20Anne.mus) [PDF] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35209091/RBY%20-%20SS%20Anne.pdf) [MUSX] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35209091/RBY%20-%20SS%20Anne.musx)
Quote from: JDMEK5 on June 16, 2015, 12:49:43 PMHaha you uh, kinda missed the 'Version' part now. :P "Pokémon Red/Blue Version"
Fixed again! Old file links should yield the correct title now at last.
Spoiler
[GB] Pokémon Red/Blue/Yellow/Green:
"Celadon City":
[MIDI] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35209091/RBY%20-%20Celadon%20City.mid) [MUS] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35209091/RBY%20-%20Celadon%20City.mus) [PDF] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35209091/RBY%20-%20Celadon%20City.pdf) [MUSX] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35209091/RBY%20-%20Celadon%20City.musx)
Quote from: Bespinben on June 19, 2015, 12:44:10 AM[GB] Pokémon Red/Blue/Yellow/Green:
"S.S. Anne":
[MIDI] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35209091/RBY%20-%20SS%20Anne.mid) [MUS] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35209091/RBY%20-%20SS%20Anne.mus) [PDF] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35209091/RBY%20-%20SS%20Anne.pdf) [MUSX] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35209091/RBY%20-%20SS%20Anne.musx)
You missed a courtesy natural in the G# of m. 12. :J
Quote from: DonValentino on June 20, 2015, 12:41:41 PMYou missed a courtesy natural in the G# of m. 12. :J
Fixed that and saved. Shall we call that accepted as well then?
What still needs to be fixed?
(I only ask because it says 69% but most everything is completed)
Yeah I used a slightly debatable point system for the percentile involving hidden values for different stati. (Is that the word?..)
Basically it's rigged to hit 100% when they're all accepted cuz as Bespinben said, we should have a double check over them to make sure.
Quote from: JDMEK5 on June 21, 2015, 12:08:47 PMFixed that and saved. Shall we call that accepted as well then?
Yes, indeed! Hmm I was thinking, it'd be nice if you made all the current arrangements easily accessible in one single place, like the OP, or the second post. To save time and make things smoother :J
Edit: Oops, not quite, what's that quarter rest doing in m. 2? I'd also say to show all rests in the LF on m. 2 because that is a third voice that hops in.
Quote from: DonValentino on June 21, 2015, 12:15:22 PMYes, indeed! Hmm I was thinking, it'd be nice if you made all the current arrangements easily accessible in one single place, like the OP, or the second post. To save time and make things smoother :J
Edit: Oops, not quite, what's that quarter rest doing in m. 2? I'd also say to show all rests in the LF on m. 2 because that is a third voice that hops in.
I like the idea of accessible sheets. Give me a bit to get that up.
Got rid of that quarter rest but I disagree with showing all. I usually leave it out if it's clear enough. But I'll show them if everyone wants. Once I get the folder up you all can see what I did exactly.
Double post for notification purposes. Folder is up on the second post underneath the progress percentile. Since that's actually the folder I'm working out of, it's always gonna be updated.
Quote from: JDMEK5 on June 21, 2015, 01:16:38 PMGot rid of that quarter rest but I disagree with showing all. I usually leave it out if it's clear enough.
Yes in most cases that's the best option, but given the "contrapuntistic" nature of this song, all voices should be notated as if they were on their own.
Quote from: JDMEK5 on June 21, 2015, 01:56:39 PMDouble post for notification purposes. Folder is up on the second post underneath the progress percentile. Since that's actually the folder I'm working out of, it's always gonna be updated.
Great, that'll make things a lot easier!
Quote from: JDMEK5 on July 25, 2013, 05:59:13 PMFolder (ZIP) (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/93589150/Fixing%20the%20Sheets%20Project.zip)
This is missing some things, like the fixed versions of Cinnabar Island, Game Corner, and Team Rocket Hideout. It's also missing the fixed Celadon City and some of Zunawe's and Tobbeh's sheets.
I've created a dropbox folder (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/usehccuug4b0al5/AABqlMaG2RPqxI-0TTds6Ykia?dl=0) that accumulates everything we have so far, I believe, except these few:
Waiting for JDMEK5:
- Game Corner (fixed version)
- Cinnabar Island (fixed version)
- Team Rocked Hideout (fixed version)
Waiting for Don:
- Pokémon Center (fixed version)
Also not in folder:
- Mt. Moon (because it's submitted to site)
- Surf (because it's on site)
Also these sheets in particular need some more work:
- Opening
- Pallet Town
- Silph Co.
Perfect. Thanks a bunch Latios! (https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.webme.com%2Fpic%2Fp%2Fpokeadictos%2Fave6.gif&hash=04fa586277298aeea9172e90ed366789e8103092)
EDIT: And since I seemed to have misplaced some files, looks like I'll have some work to do from scratch. Oh well.
But I found and added the Rocket Game Corner to the folder
EDIT AGAIN: Uploaded my replacement for Cinnabar Island. It's in the folder.
ANOTHER EDIT: Made a few modifications to "Printer Error" to make it follow the others.
Good to have everything in order! ;D
Found while sifting through these sheets: Viridian Forest and Team Rocket Hideout from Gen 1 share the same melody!
Spoiler
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FRCZsMay.jpg&hash=8dbbd01559bb061ef6238e661732ce9ffc01fc51)
IDK HOW I MANAGED TO MISS THIS FOR 10+ YEARS BUT MY MIND IS BLOWN
(Am I the only one noticing this for the first time? Okay)Also a question for everyone about Team Rocket Hideout: how should we distribute the voices? JDMEK5 added a missing voice but the song becomes a lot more difficult with it. The bottom two layers repeat but may be a bit much for the left hand alone, and possibly we could toss some notes to the right hand, idk. Thoughts?
Added Rocket Hideout to the folder. The part Latios and I had trouble with regarding voices was in the first 10 measures.
Also measure 29-32 features what I have but also the same pattern as the RH in the 4 measures prior as well. If we put them together, it sounds like a MIDI dump with lots of minor seconds and crap. Is it worth it for the sake of accuracy or what do you guys think we should do?
Quote from: JDMEK5 on June 21, 2015, 08:37:13 PMAlso measure 29-32 features what I have but also the same pattern as the RH in the 4 measures prior as well. If we put them together, it sounds like a MIDI dump with lots of minor seconds and crap. Is it worth it for the sake of accuracy or what do you guys think we should do?
I'm not really
in on this project per se, but my personal stance is this.
Leave it out. People come here for the song they remember, and that's probably not what they remember (even though it's in there, as are a bunch of other effects). Many aspects of game music aren't possible to translate, as you know (drums and whatnot), and I'd say having all the voices would definitely be one.
It still has to be music at the end of the day. The game boy and the piano have very different musical capabilities and the music should be arranged accordingly.
With that said, I'm also no master arranger. Just my 2 cents
Quote from: Latios212 on June 21, 2015, 03:51:53 PM- Pokémon Center (fixed version)
https://db.tt/gsngfZig
Quote from: Pianist Da Sootopolis on June 21, 2015, 09:57:29 PMI'm not really in on this project per se, but my personal stance is this.
Leave it out. People come here for the song they remember, and that's probably not what they remember (even though it's in there, as are a bunch of other effects). Many aspects of game music aren't possible to translate, as you know (drums and whatnot), and I'd say having all the voices would definitely be one.
It still has to be music at the end of the day. The game boy and the piano have very different musical capabilities and the music should be arranged accordingly.
With that said, I'm also no master arranger. Just my 2 cents
Hey, if you're here reading these posts, you're in and we want your input. Yeah, that's what I was thinking and now that you mention it, this kind of judgement is part of arranging, isn't it? Anyone else have further thoughts before I leave it as is?
Quote from: JDMEK5 on June 23, 2015, 09:15:34 PMHey, if you're here reading these posts, you're in and we want your input. Yeah, that's what I was thinking and now that you mention it, this kind of judgement is part of arranging, isn't it? Anyone else have further thoughts before I leave it as is?
On the subject of the project, are there any sheets that are untouched, still?
Quote from: Pianist Da Sootopolis on June 23, 2015, 09:18:46 PMOn the subject of the project, are there any sheets that are untouched, still?
The brown ones are touched but still need some work. Also do you have input on the playability of the beginning of Rocket Hideout?
While we're on the subject, JDMEK5, do you think it'd be a good idea to finish arranging the rest of the OST while we're here? It might take a little longer but give NSM some more bragging rights :P I know that's not the goal of the project, but we're actually pretty close. Aside from the monster that is Pokémon Mansion which I've got in progress, there are only like 5 songs unarranged, none of which are longer than around 30 seconds.
Which ones from the OST aren't arranged? I might take one of them.
Also, I was the one who said this, on rocket hideout
Spoiler
QuoteI'm not really in on this project per se, but my personal stance is this.
Leave it out. People come here for the song they remember, and that's probably not what they remember (even though it's in there, as are a bunch of other effects). Many aspects of game music aren't possible to translate, as you know (drums and whatnot), and I'd say having all the voices would definitely be one.
It still has to be music at the end of the day. The game boy and the piano have very different musical capabilities and the music should be arranged accordingly.
With that said, I'm also no master arranger. Just my 2 cents
Quote from: Latios212 on June 23, 2015, 09:25:57 PMThe brown ones are touched but still need some work. Also do you have input on the playability of the beginning of Rocket Hideout?
While we're on the subject, JDMEK5, do you think it'd be a good idea to finish arranging the rest of the OST while we're here? It might take a little longer but give NSM some more bragging rights :P I know that's not the goal of the project, but we're actually pretty close. Aside from the monster that is Pokémon Mansion which I've got in progress, there are only like 5 songs unarranged, none of which are longer than around 30 seconds.
Quote from: Pianist Da Sootopolis on June 23, 2015, 09:36:19 PMWhich ones from the OST aren't arranged? I might take one of them.
Hey yeah absolutely I'm down with making this an arrangement project too. With ppl on board willing to hop in, how could I say otherwise? Sounds like a great idea! That being said, since you already have an idea, do you want to give us the remaining songs, Latios? I'll add them into the target post.
Quote from: Pianist Da Sootopolis on June 23, 2015, 09:36:19 PMAlso, I was the one who said this, on rocket hideout
There were two issues, that was one of them, the other we'd like opinions on is the crazy dual 16th runs in the first 10ish measures.
Awesome, a complete OST! Here we go!
I think from the R/B OST, we're missing:
- Professor Oak (not the lab theme)
- Victory (wild Pokémon)
- Victory (trainer)
- Victory (gym leader)
- Pokémon Recovery (a 2-second track lol)
Need to dig these up from personal arrangement threads:
- All trainer encounter themes by Don
- Rival Appears by Bespinben
I have the last two, Pokéflute and Pokémon Mansion, will post them tomorrow. And while we're at it, we should probably fix the Yellow Title screen too.
Playlist for reference to see if I missed anything. (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLA26855F88564F001) I'll get everything better organized tomorrow.
I'll do the recovery one, for now. I'll just complete that right now, since it's so damn short XD
EDIT: There's already another recovery theme, we could essentially copy-paste it and give the other arranger the credit for that too.
If you want a new one for it anyways, I'm still happy to do it.
Quote from: Latios212 on June 23, 2015, 09:51:43 PMThere were two issues, that was one of them, the other we'd like opinions on is the crazy dual 16th runs in the first 10ish measures.
Awesome, a complete OST! Here we go!
I think from the R/B OST, we're missing:
- Professor Oak (not the lab theme)
- Victory (wild Pokémon)
- Victory (trainer)
- Victory (gym leader)
- Pokémon Recovery (a 2-second track lol)
Need to dig these up from personal arrangement threads:
- All trainer encounter themes by Don
- Rival Appears by Bespinben
I have the last two, Pokéflute and Pokémon Mansion, will post them tomorrow. And while we're at it, we should probably fix the Yellow Title screen too.
Playlist for reference to see if I missed anything. (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLA26855F88564F001) I'll get everything better organized tomorrow.
I think you missed some from pokémon yellow:
- Jesse & James
- Pikachu Beach
- Tiltle Theme
- Unused Song
here's the playlist I looked at: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLB0xooEkKbSbdYTCMyC36lvs8rYIyywoF
Don't know if we also should include other small themes, since we'll do "pokemon recovery", like level up, pokedex fanfare, item catch etc. And probably have them all in one arrangement.
Getting everything in order on the dropbox folder. Will be back momentarily.
Organized everything by OST order for now, just because alphabetical gets very iffy as we fix incorrect titles, and so we can see what are the gaps that need to be arranged.
Here's a link to the folder again. (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/usehccuug4b0al5/AABqlMaG2RPqxI-0TTds6Ykia?dl=0) Post any new ones You arrange here and I'll add them.
Tobbeh, thanks for pointing out the Yellow themes as well, I hope we'll have time to get to those. Do you want to do one? Keep in mind Title Theme and Pikachu Beach are already pretty much done, just floating around somewhere.
About Recovery, idk why but it's the only fanfare listed as its own track in the OST. We could possibly do the rest of the fanfares in the collection (there's a youtube vid for that too) but let's get the main tracks done first.
Quote from: Pianist Da Sootopolis on June 23, 2015, 10:04:43 PMI'll do the recovery one, for now. I'll just complete that right now, since it's so damn short XD
EDIT: There's already another recovery theme, we could essentially copy-paste it and give the other arranger the credit for that too.
If you want a new one for it anyways, I'm still happy to do it.
I think the recovery themes are slightly different for each game. Go ahead and base it off this OST.
Quote from: Latios212 on June 24, 2015, 11:00:49 AMAbout Recovery, idk why but it's the only fanfare listed as its own track in the OST. We could possibly do the rest of the fanfares in the collection (there's a youtube vid for that too) but let's get the main tracks done first.
I think the recovery themes are slightly different for each game. Go ahead and base it off this OST.
Alright, will do. It'll have to take a backseat for today though, I need to finish the arrangement I promised to do (but I may well just get lazy on that one and try it as a side project, as I did with my Colosseum arrangement).
I can take pokémon yellow "Jesse & James", will start working on it. I could also take "Unused track" if we really want to have it arranged, but since it's an unused song I let you decide first if I should do it.
Maybe add those songs in the first comment, so people can see that there are songs that people can arrange.
I'd like the priority to be on these few remaining first, but by all means go ahead if you feel like it :)
To arrange:
Quote from: Latios212 on June 23, 2015, 09:51:43 PM- Professor Oak (not the lab theme)
- Victory (wild Pokémon)
- Victory (trainer)
- Victory (gym leader)
To fix:
Quote from: Latios212 on June 21, 2015, 03:51:53 PM- Opening
- Pallet Town
- Silph Co.
If Pallet Town isn't already fixed, then I can take it. I looked at the Dropbox folder and it looks like it's been updated. If not, then I can take one of the victory themes. Maybe the Wild Pokemon one? Anything that I can do to help. :)
Pallet Town's missing a voice, but you can take any of the victory themes too!
Ok, here it is: Jesse & James Appears (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24842881/Pok%C3%A9mon%20R%2CB%2CY/Jesse%20%26%20James%20Appears.zip), quite catchy tune.
I will continue with "Unused Track", it is unused music but since it's so easy, I'll do it anyway.
Yes! Many thanks for the help! :D
But Dropbox 404 errors! :c
edit: nvm the links in your thread work, will be added momentarily added to dropbox!
Pallet Town (https://www.dropbox.com/s/rgfsnpooake91h8/Pallet%20Town.mus?dl=0)
There are a few mistakes, I'm sure. For example, I have no idea why the tempo mark is so big, nor do I know how to fix it. I'm also not sure about the last two measures in the middle staff. Nothing that I put there sounds right. But other than a few minor details, it's done.
Thank you! I'll double check the notes and combine the bottom two staves for the LH.
Oh sorry! I thought that you wanted 3 staves. :P
It's fine, the voices are all here now. It's just that the intervals are too huge for this to be playable by one person. We'll probably move the bottom layer up an octave.
Wanna get started on one of the last few? :P
Edit: Will post Pallet Town and Professor Oak tomorrow.
Fixed some small things in my Jesse & James Appears sheet (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24842881/Pok%C3%A9mon%20Red%2CBlue%2CYellow/Jesse%20%26%20James%20Appears.zip). So take this version it's updated.
Done with Unused Track (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24842881/Pok%C3%A9mon%20Red%2CBlue%2CYellow/Unused%20Track.zip) from Pokémon Yellow. So all Pokémon Yellow songs should be done now.
Thanks for your help! Added to folder for review! :D
Pallet Town is updated and Professor Oak will be uploaded soon, so I believe all we're missing is the victory themes (and Pianist da Sootopolis' Recovery theme)
Quote from: Latios212 on June 25, 2015, 03:36:21 PMThanks for your help! Added to folder for review! :D
I'll have Pallet Town and Professor Oak uploaded soon, so I believe all we're missing is the victory themes (and Pianist da Sootopolis' Recovery theme)
I'll have it today! If I can communicate with my editor XD
MUS (https://www.dropbox.com/s/p3kfibxw2e836l0/Pokemon%20Recovery.mus?dl=0)
MIDI (https://www.dropbox.com/s/khnupi3u7vdp129/Pokemon%20Recovery.mid?dl=0)
It is here. The two second recovery theme!
(I should probably go figure out where to turn this into a .pdf...)
Great! Thank you!
Quote from: Pianist Da Sootopolis on June 25, 2015, 07:08:18 PM(I should probably go figure out where to turn this into a .pdf...)
Here, among other places. (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=7153.0)
And don't worry about converting this one yet, as we'll convert files after all the arrangements have been reviewed by updaters.
Many thanks- actually already downloading the software they recommend.
Guys, we're almost there! :D Besides the three victory themes that remain to be arranged, I've placed everything in the Dropbox folder (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/usehccuug4b0al5/AABqlMaG2RPqxI-0TTds6Ykia?dl=0). Intensive review will begin soon!
Quote from: Pianist Da Sootopolis on June 25, 2015, 07:18:25 PMMany thanks- actually already downloading the software they recommend.
No problem!
Quote from: Latios212 on June 25, 2015, 09:05:31 PMGuys, we're almost there! :D Besides the three victory themes that remain to be arranged, I've placed everything in the Dropbox folder (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/usehccuug4b0al5/AABqlMaG2RPqxI-0TTds6Ykia?dl=0). Intensive review will begin soon!
No problem!
I might finish the arrangement I promised to do first tonight, and if I do, then I'll probably take one of the remaining themes (if it hasn't been arranged already). Don't hold any spots for me, though (I'm not that great an arranger anyways!).
I take victory(Gym Leader), will start working on it.
Edit: what do you think the title should be?? "Victory Fanfare (vs gym leader)" or "Victory! (Gym Leader battle)" or "Victory! (Gym Leader)".
For sources:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLA26855F88564F001
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Game_Boy:_Entire_Pok%C3%A9mon_Sounds_Collection_CD
"Victory! (Gym Leader)" would be my guess.
Ta-da! Victory! (Gym Leader) (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24842881/Pok%C3%A9mon%20Red%2CBlue%2CYellow/Victory%21%20%28Gym%20Leader%29.zip). This one took some work, but in the end, I feel like this one's really good, a very elaborated arrangement. :)
Quote from: Tobbeh99 on June 26, 2015, 07:45:46 AMhttp://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Game_Boy:_Entire_Pok%C3%A9mon_Sounds_Collection_CD
I use this for reference with the FR/LG OST as backup, so I suppose "Victory! (Gym Leader Battle)" would be the most consistent.
Youtube playlists often have fan-made track names which are sometimes more recognizable, but consistency, I guess.
Huzaah! Thanks! :D
Quote from: Latios212 on June 26, 2015, 05:02:36 PMI use this for reference with the FR/LG OST as backup, so I suppose "Victory! (Gym Leader Battle)" would be the most consistent.
Youtube playlists often have fan-made track names which are sometimes more recognizable, but consistency, I guess.
Quote from: JDMEK5 on July 25, 2013, 05:59:13 PM-Song Title: Titles are taken from the FireRed/LeafGreen OST. The OST can be found here (https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/pokemon-firered-pokemon-leafgreen/id771135133).
Use the iTunes version of the OST. (https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/pokemon-firered-pokemon-leafgreen/id771135133)
Quote from: JDMEK5 on June 26, 2015, 08:08:45 PMUse the iTunes version of the OST. (https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/pokemon-firered-pokemon-leafgreen/id771135133)
There's a couple of things that don't match up perfectly but yessir
All done.
Oh? Please tell me more. I'm not trying to be totalitarian towards this it just seemed like the logical thing.
It lines up almost perfectly. Only discrepancies are:
- "Title Screen": FR/LG OST splits it up into "Opening Movie" and "Title Screen" while the Japanese Red/Green/Blue OST combines them into "Title Screen". It might be practical to split them up as Yellow has a different opening but same title screen theme.
- "Viridian City Theme": Japanese OST lists as Viridian, FR/L lists as Pewter. Viridian makes more sense since it's encountered first, but that just my opinion.
- "Cerulean City Theme": FR/LG lists it as Fuchsia which is weird for the same reason.
- "Road from Lavender Town - Leaving Vermilion City": FR/LG lists it as Lavender-->Fuchsia which is weird for the same reason.
Quote from: Latios212 on June 26, 2015, 08:28:10 PMIt lines up almost perfectly. Only discrepancies are:
- "Title Screen": FR/LG OST splits it up into "Opening Movie" and "Title Screen" while the Japanese Red/Green/Blue OST combines them into "Title Screen". It might be practical to split them up as Yellow has a different opening but same title screen theme.
- "Viridian City Theme": Japanese OST lists as Viridian, FR/L lists as Pewter. Viridian makes more sense since it's encountered first, but that just my opinion.
- "Cerulean City Theme": FR/LG lists it as Fuchsia which is weird for the same reason.
- "Road from Lavender Town - Leaving Vermilion City": FR/LG lists it as Lavender-->Fuchsia which is weird for the same reason.
-Yeah that works well.
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-Yeah that makes sense but I'm sure they were aware of that when they did the OST so personally I'd just go with it.
Ok, so I take the last two victory themes.
So here are the Victory themes:
Victory! (Gym Leader Battle) (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24842881/Pok%C3%A9mon%20Red%2CBlue%2CYellow/Victory%21%20%28Gym%20Leader%20Battle%29.zip)
Victory! (Trainer Battle) (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24842881/Pok%C3%A9mon%20Red%2CBlue%2CYellow/Victory%21%20%28Trainer%20Battle%29.zip)
Victory! (Wild Pokémon) (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24842881/Pok%C3%A9mon%20Red%2CBlue%2CYellow/Victory%21%20%28Wild%20Pok%C3%A9mon%29.zip)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r06heQ5HsI
Quote from: Tobbeh99 on June 27, 2015, 01:09:58 PMSo here are the Victory themes:
Victory! (Gym Leader Battle) (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24842881/Pok%C3%A9mon%20Red%2CBlue%2CYellow/Victory%21%20%28Gym%20Leader%20Battle%29.zip)
Victory! (Trainer Battle) (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24842881/Pok%C3%A9mon%20Red%2CBlue%2CYellow/Victory%21%20%28Trainer%20Battle%29.zip)
Victory! (Wild Pokémon) (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24842881/Pok%C3%A9mon%20Red%2CBlue%2CYellow/Victory%21%20%28Wild%20Pok%C3%A9mon%29.zip)
Awesome! We're now at 100% arrangement! ( ^_^)o自自o(^_^ )
But wait, there's more! We're not out of the woods yet! Some of these sheets still need a decent amount of touching up. If you're still willing to pitch in for this project, these sheets in particular need some review:
"Title Screen" - Needs to be split up into "Opening Movie" and "Title Screen" as Yellow shares the same Title Screen theme. It still has many wrong notes from dahans' old sheet and note durations need to be checked as well.
"Professor Oak's Laboratory" - Third voice completely incorrect.
"Road to Cerulean City - Leaving Mt. Moon" - should be checked against Don's version.
"Road to Fuchsia City - Leaving Lavender Town" - should be checked against Don's version.
"Silph Co." - accidental checking, among other things.
"Opening (Yellow)" - This one's a little messy...
I'll take Professor Oak's Laboratory.
EDIT: Done (https://www.dropbox.com/s/3dsbuzo05q01crj/Professor%20Oak%27s%20Laboratory.mus?dl=0).
There wasn't much in the third voice. Not that I found anyway. What I did find was an interference with the melody; most of the notes in the third voice were covered by the chords present in the melody anyway. I added a total of 4 notes. Not exactly sure if that covers "being edited," so I left the sheet in dahans' name. :P
I also deleted a few unnecessary notes in the left hand and added a 1-measure ending.
As far as formatting goes, everything looks good. I'm just unable to add measure numbers on the side.
I'll also take a look at "Road to Fuschia".
Quote from: Latios212 on June 26, 2015, 08:28:10 PMIt lines up almost perfectly. Only discrepancies are:
- "Title Screen": FR/LG OST splits it up into "Opening Movie" and "Title Screen" while the Japanese Red/Green/Blue OST combines them into "Title Screen". It might be practical to split them up as Yellow has a different opening but same title screen theme.
- "Viridian City Theme": Japanese OST lists as Viridian, FR/L lists as Pewter. Viridian makes more sense since it's encountered first, but that just my opinion.
- "Cerulean City Theme": FR/LG lists it as Fuchsia which is weird for the same reason.
- "Road from Lavender Town - Leaving Vermilion City": FR/LG lists it as Lavender-->Fuchsia which is weird for the same reason.
http://vgmdb.net/album/141
Quote from: Latios212 on June 26, 2015, 08:28:10 PMIt lines up almost perfectly. Only discrepancies are:
- "Title Screen": FR/LG OST splits it up into "Opening Movie" and "Title Screen" while the Japanese Red/Green/Blue OST combines them into "Title Screen". It might be practical to split them up as Yellow has a different opening but same title screen theme.
- "Viridian City Theme": Japanese OST lists as Viridian, FR/L lists as Pewter. Viridian makes more sense since it's encountered first, but that just my opinion.
- "Cerulean City Theme": FR/LG lists it as Fuchsia which is weird for the same reason.
- "Road from Lavender Town - Leaving Vermilion City": FR/LG lists it as Lavender-->Fuchsia which is weird for the same reason.
Quote from: DonValentino on June 30, 2015, 02:22:45 AMhttp://vgmdb.net/album/141
That's a localized version that wasn't done by any of the owners of Nintendo or Pokémon. I'd much rather stick with the iTunes which was translated by them directly.
Road to Fuschia seems fine. I think that Don did an awesome job updating dahans' version.
Quote from: Brawler4Ever on June 29, 2015, 09:32:41 AMThere wasn't much in the third voice. Not that I found anyway. What I did find was an interference with the melody; most of the notes in the third voice were covered by the chords present in the melody anyway. I added a total of 4 notes. Not exactly sure if that covers "being edited," so I left the sheet in dahans' name. :P
No that's just the thing; the chords aren't supposed to be there. The melody is just single notes and the bottom notes in the chords are imagined and should be replaced with the independent second voice in a separate layer. (Compare the on-site version of Cinnabar Island with the one in the Dropbox folder for an example of what I mean when it comes to dahans' stuff.)
Hey, it seems I'm kinda late for the party, but is Pallet Town still up for grabs?
Hey, no problem! We'd appreciate your help!
I think I finished Pallet Town, though. You can check it out in the dropbox folder (link somewhere above) and tell me if there are any mistakes. Here are the sheets that need the most fixes right now:
Quote from: Latios212 on June 27, 2015, 04:21:23 PM"Title Screen" - Needs to be split up into "Opening Movie" and "Title Screen" as Yellow shares the same Title Screen theme. It still has many wrong notes from dahans' old sheet and note durations need to be checked as well.
"Professor Oak's Laboratory" - Third voice completely incorrect.
"Silph Co." - accidental checking, among other things.
"Opening (Yellow)" - This one's a little messy...
Well I'll do what I can with Notepad. And I'm gonna be away for a week, so it'll be a little while, but I'll see what I can do.
Many thanks!
JD update list colors! :)
Haha I'm-a comin'!
EDIT: Now we need to figure out what we're gonna do regarding custom endings. Yes or no? I know that Bespinben is a supporter and while I kinda agree, I personally think that it has to depend on the situation and the way it's given. To justify a custom ending for me it would have to be at least somewhat elaborate and not just a cadence or something else just kinda thrown in. Thoughts?
ALSO: There's some discrepancy regarding "game name" on some sheets. Some read "Pokémon Red/Blue Version" while others read "Pokémon Red/Blue/Yellow Version". Obviously the tracks that are Yellow Version exclusive will just read "Pokémon Yellow Version" only but should we have all three game names for those to which it applies?
I'll post my thoughts on custom endings later cuz I'm kinda busy but for game name, I'd say Red/Blue Version mainly because the other type of naming would get messy when we get to gen 5.
Would it though? How so?
ALSO: In the dropbox folder I added a text file explaining in detail the calculation for the percentile on the Target Post. Just in case you guys were wondering. Truth actually is that it's mainly there so I don't forget it next time it needs updating.
Either way works fine up until gen 5 where we'd have to combine "Pokémon Black/White Version" and "Pokémon Black/White Version 2"which would get really messy.
But they're two different pairs of games. This time we did Gen 1 but if we did Gen 5, we'd prob do them separately or at least view them separately. For tracks that appear in both pairs I would actually have them relisted on the site under both names.
But most of the BW songs were carried over to BW2 just as the entire OST of RB appears in Yellow. We wouldn't re-list 45 tracks from RB under Yellow, and similarly we wouldn't want to list the BW OST twice.
Anyway this isn't that relevant right now, so is sticking with "Pokémon Red/Blue Version" fine? It doesn't really matter to me as long as we keep it consistent.
I think we'd write "Pokémon Red/Blue/Yellow" simply because the song are in yellow too, and they're are under the same category. I'd say black & White is a different case and that we should focus on Gen 1.
Quote from: Tobbeh99 on July 14, 2015, 12:05:40 PMI'd say black & White is a different case and that we should focus on Gen 1.
I definitely agree with that.
Quote from: Latios212 on July 14, 2015, 11:49:38 AMBut most of the BW songs were carried over to BW2 just as the entire OST of RB appears in Yellow. We wouldn't re-list 45 tracks from RB under Yellow, and similarly we wouldn't want to list the BW OST twice
Actually while that's true, most of the BW2 reiterations are modified from the original. So rearranging them is fully reasonable. Unless I'm forgetting some cases.
Concerning the song list in OP. What happened to Jigglypuff's song? And isn't pallet town done?
Quote from: Tobbeh99 on July 14, 2015, 02:52:46 PMConcerning the song list in OP. What happened to Jigglypuff's song? And isn't pallet town done?
Jigglypuff's Song was never returned so I'm assuming it was just dropped. So I returned its Red status.
As for Pallet, I just missed it. My mistake.
Also, we never fully addressed the issue before: Red/Blue or Red/Blue/Yellow? Personally I'm starting to think I'm with Tobbeh on this one.
How 'bout I do those 5 measures? That's it, we just keep it simple and like the original is, not like dahans huge arrangement?
Yeah we don't want all that extra. Just to the original and that's it.
Here it is:
Jigglypuff's Song (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24842881/Pok%C3%A9mon%20Red%2CBlue%2CYellow/Jigglypuff%27s%20Song.zip)
I put myself as arranger since I think my version is different enough from dahans.
Sure thing. Sounds great!
Wow. Just three songs left. Great job, guys!
JD in the OP you wrote "Jesse & James' Theme", however I think "Jesse & James Appears" is a better title to fit in with the rest of the "appears-themes". Unless you've found some official soundtrack where the title says so.
Also concerning names, should we really have "(yellow version)" on every yellow sheet. On the opening theme and the unused track it is necessary to specify that they are from yellow, but the rest I think it seems unnecessary.
Quote from: Tobbeh99 on July 14, 2015, 05:19:45 PMJD in the OP you wrote "Jesse & James' Theme", however I think "Jesse & James Appears" is a better title to fit in with the rest of the "appears-themes". Unless you've found some official soundtrack where the title says so.
Also concerning names, should we really have "(yellow version)" on every yellow sheet. On the opening theme and the unused track it is necessary to specify that they are from yellow, but the rest I think it seems unnecessary.
Yeah sorry I was in a hurry and slipped up.
Yeah no I put "Yellow Version" in just for this small list only. That's all.
While I think that Pokémon is a unique case, I think that the arrangements were planned to be Red/Blue because the original composition was for Red/Blue, and the new pieces were composed for Yellow. The closest comparison I can think of outside Pokémon is the remake of Ocarina of Time. There's a much larger time gap and the music was technically redone, but it's the same composition. We wouldn't list Ocarina of Time 3D on any of those sheets even though they have the same music. We also wouldn't list Ocarina of Time 3D as its own game under the Zelda section.
Well yeah I'm thinking for this it either should be Pokémon Red/Blue Version on the site and the Yellow songs added in with a little label or something for clarification, or read Pokémon Red/Blue/Yellow Version and still have the same label for the Yellow. But I see your point and yeah if we do just Red/Blue then it kinda also follows the way they were written originally.
We've officially established that the game title on the sheet will be "Pokémon Red/Blue Version" but "Pokémon Yellow Version" on all Yellow exclusives.
Also in the works: On my to-do list is to arrange the songs in the Target Post in the order they appear in the folder as well as giving them their proper names since this became an arranging project as well.
I'll fix up Opening Movie (Yellow Version), Title Screen, and Professor Oak's Laboratory probably tomorrow.
RRRRGH FINALE CRASHED JUST AS I PUT THE LAST NOTE IN TITLE SCREEN
back to square one...
edit: there went another half hour. Title Screen isn't perfect yet, but I put in the right notes at least.
edity edit: Professor Oak's Laboratory fixed
(triple post)
Yellow Opening Movie now complete! Boy, the (meter?) is kinda weird on that one.
Quote from: Latios212 on July 19, 2015, 11:03:10 AMedit: there went another half hour. Title Screen isn't perfect yet, but I put in the right notes at least.
If the notes are there, I should be able to finish it off lickety-split. The notes are by far the most time consuming and exhausting part.
10 minutes later: Actually I have some ideas for this that are a bit questionable so maybe I'll get some second-party tips as I go.
Yeah this track definitely isn't as simple as I thought it was. Let's go over it later.
Pallet Town has been Accepted.
Has Printer Error been finished? I can do that one.
Mt. Moon has been uploaded.
Nevermind, found out it has been done! Just didn't see a name by it :p
If I might add, it's "Jessie" not "Jesse" d:
Quote from: DonValentino on July 26, 2015, 11:31:52 AMIf I might add, it's "Jessie" not "Jesse" d:
Ah yes. Indeed. Thanks.
Quote from: Zunawe on July 25, 2015, 04:06:09 PMMt. Moon has been uploaded.
Awesome. Thanks.
small detail: You forgot the "s" in Jessie & James appears
But that's grammatically incorrect...
Oh is it?? my bad. I just looked above at the other "appears-themes".
So it's:
he/she/it appears
they appear
Right??
Yep. I can't find an official Yellow soundtrack so we'll go with your title I guess [emoji14]
Before anyone freaks out, files have been relocated here (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/d1fwjcwkug26n74/AABxeziX0K3QJ95rhI7ceEkLa?dl=0).
JDMEK5 update OP with this link please~
and suddenly.....
HALF OF THE SHEETS HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED DUN DUN DUN
Fixed up this ol' arrangement for the project!
[GB] Pokémon Red/Blue/Yellow/Green:
"A Rival Appears":
[MIDI] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35209091/RBY%20-%20A%20Rival%20Appears.mid) [MUS] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35209091/RBY%20-%20A%20Rival%20Appears.mus) [PDF] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35209091/RBY%20-%20A%20Rival%20Appears.pdf) [MUSX] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35209091/RBY%20-%20A%20Rival%20Appears.musx)
great arrangement and Awesome tempo mark!
Quote from: Bespinben on July 31, 2015, 12:14:20 AMFixed up this ol' arrangement for the project!
[GB] Pokémon Red/Blue/Yellow/Green:
"A Rival Appears":
[MIDI] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35209091/RBY%20-%20A%20Rival%20Appears.mid) [MUS] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35209091/RBY%20-%20A%20Rival%20Appears.mus) [PDF] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35209091/RBY%20-%20A%20Rival%20Appears.pdf) [MUSX] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35209091/RBY%20-%20A%20Rival%20Appears.musx)
I understand that you like your custom endings and all but to me custom endings in general just seem so individual when put on a sheet that in comparison is so canonical (since it's not written by us). Maybe everyone totally disagrees with me which is fine but personally I still have my reservations about them. I also think that if custom endings become a thing, wouldn't we all have to do them then? Otherwise it's kinda random and disorganized which really just rubs me the wrong way.
I don't really mind too much but given that no other sheets besides yours have custom endings, .......maaaaybe the on-site version shouldn't have it.
Hey also, while the updater machine is processing everything (currently: 32/51 accepted), does anyone want to arrange the fanfares collection?
Oooo me!
I have a lot to do but I'll do them. Just answer this: when do I have to have them done by?
Well it doesn't look like we'll be done with this project for a little while, so no rush. But do keep me updated, I might take a couple of these.
Quote from: Latios212 on August 06, 2015, 05:33:45 PMWell it doesn't look like we'll be done with this project for a little while, so no rush. But do keep me updated, I might take a couple of these.
Oh man.....I thought Pokemon was going to be done soon :P
That's ok. I'll put these Fanfares at the top of my to-do list.
Fanfares Collection (https://www.dropbox.com/s/07d79s3v1e9uw7o/Fanfares%20Collection.mus?dl=0)
Opinions on fanfare names? (I didn't label them yet.) I'm not sure about the accuracy of the names listed in the video description.
Kapow! (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/93589150/Fanfares%20Collection.mus)
Reorganized the tracks in the Fanfare Collection as well as add titles. And made it look pretty again. :J
Thanks JDMEK5! Nice work!
Thank ye.
We're getting there..............
JD can you please update the color in the OP and add a link to the dropbox folder in the OP, so we can see how far we've gotten.
Eh, not even sure if it's worth the effort to update the list. I've been waiting for a Dropbox link in the OP though. You can easily tell the progress from there; everything's accepted except ~15 blue ones.
Quote from: Tobbeh99 on August 19, 2015, 03:07:33 AMhow far we've gotten.
According to JDMEK5's algorithm:
95.8%Spoiler
Percentile Calculation Algorithm
Total # of Tracks: 52
Total # of Points per Track: 3
Total Percentile at Completion: 100%
Total # of Points at Completion: 156
Each Point: 0.64%
Color Status to Point Converter:
-Green: 3 Points
-Blue: 2.5 Points
-Brown: 1 Point
-Red/Yellow: 0 Points
Total # of Green Status Tracks: 39
Total # of Blue Status Tracks: 13
Total # of Brown Status Tracks: 0
Total # of Red/Yellow Status Tracks: 0
Current Algorithm: ((39*3)+(13*2.5)+(0*1)+(0*0))(100/153) = 95.8%
Current Total # of Points: 149.5
Current Percentile: 95.8%
Also gazillionth Dropbox link (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/d1fwjcwkug26n74/AABxeziX0K3QJ95rhI7ceEkLa?dl=0) so you can see which tracks
WOW We're almost there! Good job everyone!
YAY!!!!!
I just want to let everyone know that once we finish this one, I'd like to re-open the poll for a while for us to re-vote on the next "Fixing the Sheets" project, just in case our opinions have changed since then. I personally have no issue with DPP, but it has been a while since the last poll was up. If everyone still wants to do Pokemon DPP, then we just need to nominate it and vote for it again, simple as that. d:
I'm up for that.
My vote will stay with DP most likely cuz of my invaluable MIDI capabilities with it but sure, a re-vote only sounds fair.
Double post cuz important question is important: I noticed the game name changed from "Pokémon Red/Blue Version" to "Pokémon Red Version & Pokémon Blue Version". What's the reason for the switch I implore? I don't see any problem with what we had to begin with and tbh I can't help but feel that the extended title would look out of place as a header on the main site. And obviously the sheets have to be exactly the same as the main site game heading.
How about just "Pokemon Red & Blue Version"
Cuz the game isn't Red & Blue. They're 2 different games and tbh I see that best illustrated with either using a "/" to split them or by reiterating the "Version" twice.
Quote from: JDMEK5 on August 25, 2015, 08:42:23 PMDouble post cuz important question is important: I noticed the game name changed from "Pokémon Red/Blue Version" to "Pokémon Red Version & Pokémon Blue Version". What's the reason for the switch I implore? I don't see any problem with what we had to begin with and tbh I can't help but feel that the extended title would look out of place as a header on the main site. And obviously the sheets have to be exactly the same as the main site game heading.
That's what we decided makes the most sense.
K but I'm asking why? How did you come to that conclusion?
Look at the discussion here:
http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=7349.0
I see. Well it works and it'll satisfy me I'm just worried that it might eventually get too long but no biggie. Cool beans.
(Does not have to create 138 new files again) *phew*
Hey, if I had voted we change it and it had been accepted, I would've taken responsibility for updating them all. You've done plenty already. ;)
Final changes:
- Third voice removed from Rocket Hideout and Pewter City for the sake of playability.
- Olimar replaced "Jessie & James Appear".
- Titles all changed to "Pokémon Red Version & Pokémon Blue Version".
Final announcements:
- Celadon and Lavender are the only sheets left. Some final cleanup and we'll be done.
Quote from: Latios212 on August 28, 2015, 01:58:46 PMFinal announcements:
- Celadon and Lavender are the only sheets left. Some final cleanup and we'll be done.
👌
My thoughts on Olimar's replacement of Jessie & James Appears:
Olimar's arrangement has richer accompaniment with the pedal fifths, mine were a bit empty only having off-beat a's as accompaniment (I did thought about adding a fourth to make it richer but decided to stick with a's and to keep it close to the original, and adding a fourth would also mess up the second part).
The fourth beat accent seem more natural in my arrangement as they are in the same octave as the accompaniment.
My arrangement has the third high voice in the second part.
Both arrangements are really good, I personally think mine is better but I guess you have a reasoned about why to make the replacement so I'm fine with it.
Olimar: "no need to over complicate things", in short.
Tobbeh: when I get a chance, we need to have a small chat about your arranging habits. I spent a lot of time editing your files in particular and I think I have some positive feedback and constructive criticism they can help you in the future.
Quote from: Olimar12345 on August 28, 2015, 02:44:05 PMTobbeh: when I get a chance, we need to have a small chat about your arranging habits. I spent a lot of time editing your files in particular and I think I have some positive feedback and constructive criticism they can help you in the future.
Ah y, that would be great. You can post your opinions by PM'ing me.
All done guys!! Congratulations and thanks a lot for all the effort and dedication you guys have shown in contributing! This update is for you ;)
What's up next, GSC? :p
I'd love to see that but Latios has already started with it so feel free to turn over there (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=7327.0) for chapter 2.
Pfft, I've arranged half the GSC sheets!! I meant more like "is that gonna turn official now that this one's done"
We'll see in due time :P
And finally, I would like to thank JDMEK5 for hosting this time around! Thanks to you, this project exists and seeing an entire OST perfect like this makes me ridiculously happy.
Until next time~
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/5e/f4/c1/5ef4c1f499730a5b92e203c4dd7af2f6.jpg)
And there was much rejoicing afterward!~
Gj everyone, we finally did it! This topic will be moved to the archive and a new topic will be made shortly.