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Title: Lead sheets?
Post by: insaneintherain on December 29, 2013, 09:05:31 AM
I understand that NinSheetMusic has a massive quantity of sheet music already uploaded to the site for all to view, but why solely piano arrangements? I'm not too well-versed in the early history of NSM, so there may be a reason that I have not though of. NSM is a site dedicated to video game sheet music, but why just piano? Yes, it's true that piano is a very commonly played instruments, and arrangements are fairly easy to write for it, but why restrict it to just piano? For individuals like myself, who often use the sheet music on NSM as a basis for arrangements, lead sheets would be a better fit. For those of you who don't know, here's a lead sheet of a video game piece (https://www.dropbox.com/s/vuf6a4a4222aurc/Frosty%20Village%20-%20Concert%20Pitch.pdf).

I can see why this would not be as good for some individuals. Not all people fully understand chords and how they work, so a direct layout on a piano arrangement would work best for them. However, for instrumentalists on non-concert-pitched instruments, lead sheets can be easily provided in transposed formats and are readily accessible without weeding through complex piano parts. There's pretty much no chance that NSM will completely switch to lead sheets, but I'd like to hear other's opinions on the practicality of this form of sheet music!
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: Sebastian on December 29, 2013, 04:02:35 PM
Personally, I hate lead sheets.


LATE EDIT: I changed my mind!
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: Dude on December 29, 2013, 05:13:41 PM
I like this idea a lot actually.

Although, just add it as an extra option for the default piano sheet though, I'd still rather have the site be 99% piano based.
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: insaneintherain on December 29, 2013, 05:23:12 PM
Mario, care to explain why?

Personally, I find them very open to interpretation and less restricting than a piano sheet. Of course piano sheets would be more commonly used, but lead sheets would be a great alternative.
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: Waddle Bro on December 29, 2013, 05:32:44 PM
It couldn't hurt to have them on site.
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: Olimar12345 on December 29, 2013, 08:02:37 PM
I think the addition of lead sheets would be a great idea! Though, being lead sheets, I'd feel obligated to offer our content in the four most-requested transpositions (Bass clef, C, Bb, and Eb), in which case it would require more from the arranger(or should I say, purely 'transcriber', at this point)


Personally, I don't see a problem with expanding our library to any sort of instrumentation, just as long as we have quality content to offer and can find a logical way of organizing it.
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: Sebastian on December 29, 2013, 08:43:13 PM
Mario, care to explain why?

Personally, I find them very open to interpretation and less restricting than a piano sheet. Of course piano sheets would be more commonly used, but lead sheets would be a great alternative.
Well, I never really liked them...
By the way, you can call me mlf for short :)
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: Sebastian on December 29, 2013, 08:47:41 PM
I always thought lead sheets were lazy, because you only have to write the melody. And I really like sheets with the melody AND bass line :)
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: JDMEK5 on December 29, 2013, 08:52:11 PM
I really like sheets with the melody AND bass line :)
*whispers in ear* "Guitar...."

Deja vu. (Used to have a link here which now only results in malware)

What I had dreamed of was a couple tabs near the top of the site for the different instruments. So it would be like: "Piano" | "Guitar" | "Sax" | "Trumpet" etc. (Minus the """ of course)

Personally, I don't see a problem with expanding our library to any sort of instrumentation, just as long as we have quality content to offer and can find a logical way of organizing it.
My thoughts exactly. And I originally jumped on guitar because it was the most common instrument in the world, and second in North America behind piano. But really, any transpositions for any instruments would be awesome.
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: Sebastian on December 29, 2013, 08:56:45 PM
OOOHHH!! Yeah, Im all for Guitar!!!  Im so dumb  :-[
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: JDMEK5 on December 29, 2013, 09:08:10 PM
Im so dumb  :-[
They're called brain farts. I have them all the time. So don't sweat it.

But I think major transpositions as Olimar mentioned and guitar would be priorities.
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: insaneintherain on December 29, 2013, 09:09:52 PM
Glad to see many of you are not opposed to lead sheets. If you guys don't know about "The Real Book', it's definitely something you should check out. It's a huge collection of jazz standards notated in lead sheet format, with minimal amounts of things written out, leaving a lot to the performer for interpretation. This format would work well for video game music! All you really need is the melody, chord symbols, and possibly some important basslines. This would open many doors for those who use the sheet music for solely the melody and are somewhat music-theory proficient.

Transposition of lead sheets is really easy, and only a few range issues need to be adressed.

Edit: Also, if you need someone to make lead sheets, I make them all the time, and already have quite a few video game lead sheets done already.
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: Olimar12345 on December 29, 2013, 09:18:45 PM
What I had dreamed of was a couple tabs near the top of the site for the different instruments. So it would be like: "Piano" | "Guitar" | "Sax" | "Trumpet" etc. (Minus the """ of course)

It would probably make more sense to use the transpositions rather than the instrument names, since they carry across to more than just one instrument or instrument group. The Real Book does this.
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: Sebastian on December 29, 2013, 09:23:39 PM
I always thought it would be cool to have other instruments.


ANOTHER LATE EDIT FOR PEOPLE REVIEWING THE TOPIC:
We could have another board dedicated to these types of sheets.
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: insaneintherain on December 29, 2013, 09:47:20 PM
It would probably make more sense to use the transpositions rather than the instrument names, since they carry across to more than just one instrument or instrument group. The Real Book does this.
Yep. C, Bb, Eb, and Bass clef.

EDIT: Also, just whipped this (https://www.dropbox.com/s/mueq0nq77q744wg/Chrono%20Cross%20-%20Scars%20of%20Time%20-%20Concert%20Pitch.pdf) lead sheet up for Scars of Time. Would something like this work?
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: Dude on December 30, 2013, 04:41:55 PM
Ok, so what are you using to make these? It looks different from the usual Finale document.
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: insaneintherain on December 30, 2013, 04:45:20 PM
That was Musescore. Sadly, don't have Finale, and Finale Notepad wouldn't even come close to having all the features I need to get it to the formatting I'd like. I can usually do a very close mockup with the site's formatting and all that Times New Roman, but this is my personal lead sheet template.
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: Olimar12345 on December 30, 2013, 07:20:03 PM
Finale can easily make lead sheets, though. If this becomes a thing, I could create a blank document for lower finale users to use that comes pre-formatted.
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: JDMEK5 on December 30, 2013, 08:50:12 PM
I could create a blank document for lower finale users to use that comes pre-formatted.
Why do we not do this for piano sheets? ???
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: Deku Trombonist on December 30, 2013, 10:50:47 PM
We do...shows how much you read the formatting guidelines :P

Anyway, there's a link in there to a template with correct formating etc
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: MadmanWithASax on December 31, 2013, 08:11:07 PM
I also like this idea a lot. While Piano is a very common instrument, there are still many musicians who come to this site looking for arrangements specifically for their instruments. As a Sax payer, it is easy for me to transpose piano to sax, but not everyone can do it. I support this idea in full.
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: insaneintherain on December 31, 2013, 09:26:11 PM
As a Sax payer

Sax pls
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: JDMEK5 on January 01, 2014, 12:06:12 AM
We do...shows how much you read the formatting guidelines :P

Anyway, there's a link in there to a template with correct formating etc
Must be a new thing. I used to go there so often in the past but if one's been put in there since then, great.
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: Jompa on January 01, 2014, 05:16:53 PM
Lead sheets is a good idea. Unquestionably a helpful and good resource for musicians, and what's the trouble of it really? It would take less time than a complicated and reduced-for-playability piano arrangement, because if you already know the chords it's just to note them down, and the melody line is something you'd need either way. And with lead sheets, practically all instruments can play the sheet, without loosing some crucial part of the song (given that a chord instrument is at your service).
Much of the purpose of a lead sheet is to make the rhythm changes understandable for the performer, and also making it possible for chord instruments & bass to join accompany the lead, and also to encourage improvisation.
Not all songs are the best for lead sheets though, just like how not all songs are good for piano arrangements (mlf, I'm lookin' at you).
Lead sheets are a great way to learn as well.

I'm jazz, so even when I play piano, lead sheets are better than normal sheet music. Much more fun, often more mentally challenging, and more free as you can improvise over the same rhythm changes.

Oh, and I have this sheet here of Relic Song - which could be translated into a cool jazz waltz:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/75726060/Relic%20Song%20-%20Lead%20sheet.pdf

I usually write chords on my sheets anyway so I like the concept you're trying to introduce here.
Lead sheets should definitely be accepted on the site in my opinion.

Oh, and damn, it's nice to see there are more saxes than just myself!! ;D you're tenors right?
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: insaneintherain on January 01, 2014, 05:49:53 PM
Oh, and damn, it's nice to see there are more saxes than just myself!! ;D you're tenors right?

Yup, tenor! Lead sheets are awesome :D
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: Jamaha on January 02, 2014, 12:30:03 AM
Sounds like a reasonable idea.

Before I promise anything, I'd like to hear some ideas in more detail on the presentation of such sheets on the site and things like that. How to separate them from the other sheet music etc?
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: JDMEK5 on May 15, 2014, 02:31:54 PM
Whoops. That was my cue.

What I had dreamed of was a couple tabs near the top of the site for the different instruments. So it would be like: | "C" | "Bb" | "Eb" | "F" | "Bass" | (Minus the """ of course) (And a guitar tab would be nice too! (Pardon the pun!))
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: Jompa on May 15, 2014, 03:44:46 PM
This site should never start doing guitar tabs.
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: Maelstrom on May 15, 2014, 04:05:52 PM
That's what this (http://www.gametabs.net/) site is for.
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: JDMEK5 on May 15, 2014, 04:08:45 PM
The pun made a miscommunication. I'm not talking about tab. I'm talking a full-out classical style sheet.
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: Jompa on May 15, 2014, 05:03:47 PM
Yeahyeah I didn't mean it like you said anything wrong, I just wanted to express my hatred towards the most useless and impractical notation method of modern times.
here comes a rant about tabs:
Not only does it require at least 10 times more practicing than normal musical notation, but there is 0 theory to gain from it, and there is rarely any theory used to make it. And since NO ONE includes chords, rests or duration of notes, but instead just tries to press as many numbers as possible in as little space as possible, it's impossible sight read, impossible to follow, and you'll literally have to listen to a recording of the song just to play it more than it would for someone who have instead chosen to focus on normal notation to arrange the whole song in sheet music. There is a reason 99% percent of guitar players suck, and can't read music. It's because tabs. When actually playing the guitar in musical context tabs won't get you anywhere. The most extreme cases that piss me off the most is when they write out the full chord parts in tabs. I don't get why anyone would ever waste their time on that.
In some cases when I see someone using/writing guitar tabs I feel insulted that we share the same hobby.
God, I hate tabs.
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: Maelstrom on May 15, 2014, 05:30:27 PM
Yeah. I sort of agree with you. While I find guitar tabs incredibly easy to sight read (for guitar only), I still can't play from sheet music. It's just so much easier to read without learning the actual notes and what they correspond to.
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: Olimar12345 on May 15, 2014, 06:04:22 PM
I agree, no tabs.

What I had dreamed of was a couple tabs near the top of the site for the different instruments. So it would be like: | "C" | "Bb" | "Eb" | "F" | "Bass" | (Minus the """ of course) (And a guitar tab would be nice too! (Pardon the pun!))

We should make a tab at the top called "Lead Sheets" or something that redirects to a page for the transposition, similar to the arranger or console ones we now have. Also,  I Don't think we'll need the "F" tab. Compared to the use of the others, it would be more useful to have an alto clef tab. xD
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: Sebastian on May 16, 2014, 02:19:08 PM
Yeahyeah I didn't mean it like you said anything wrong, I just wanted to express my hatred towards the most useless and impractical notation method of modern times.
here comes a rant about tabs:
Not only does it require at least 10 times more practicing than normal musical notation, but there is 0 theory to gain from it, and there is rarely any theory used to make it. And since NO ONE includes chords, rests or duration of notes, but instead just tries to press as many numbers as possible in as little space as possible, it's impossible sight read, impossible to follow, and you'll literally have to listen to a recording of the song just to play it more than it would for someone who have instead chosen to focus on normal notation to arrange the whole song in sheet music. There is a reason 99% percent of guitar players suck, and can't read music. It's because tabs. When actually playing the guitar in musical context tabs won't get you anywhere. The most extreme cases that piss me off the most is when they write out the full chord parts in tabs. I don't get why anyone would ever waste their time on that.
In some cases when I see someone using/writing guitar tabs I feel insulted that we share the same hobby.
God, I hate tabs.
Well said!
I totally agree.

ANOTHER EDIT: As Jompa pointed out, I don't think we should incorporate tabs. They would deviate from what we do here on NSM. Sheet music is what we do.
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: JDMEK5 on May 17, 2014, 06:37:50 AM
We should make a tab at the top called "Lead Sheets" or something that redirects to a page for the transposition, similar to the arranger or console ones we now have. Also,  I Don't think we'll need the "F" tab. Compared to the use of the others, it would be more useful to have an alto clef tab. xD
Sounds good, sounds good.

*Jompa's Big TAB Rant*
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: Sebastian on March 09, 2016, 05:22:13 PM
Forgive the Necro.....

I've talked to a few people about this and they think we should give this some thought again. I was just reviewing this topic and I think it's a great idea. I'm ALL for it and would be very interested in getting this incorporated. I think it would draw in a whole other crowd to NSM and, overall, would strengthen our community. After reviewing the topic, it looks like no one disagrees with this idea.....even Jamaha is willing to give it a shot. I would be willing to put in any work towards this if necessary.
Does anyone have any thoughts? I recommend everyone review the topic before posting to see what was originally discussed.
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: Zeila on March 09, 2016, 05:43:32 PM
I think it's a good idea! I wouldn't be of much use since I don't know much about chord names/progression, but I'm sure a lot of flute, sax, clarinet, horn, etc. players would benefit from it so that it's easier to sight read/discern parts or for improvisation. I think there are some old sheets on site that have the actual piano part along with chords on top (or maybe it's just faulty memory, I don't have an example of such atm). I think it would work especially well for the jazzier pieces, but I can see it working for other songs too (and it would lead doors to different interpretations)

As far as execution is concerned, would there just be a tab that links to an identical site (in design), but the series/other tabs are different? I know quite a few of people mentioned it in the thread, but I just wanted to clarify. I think that would be better than to just cluster all of it together
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: JDMEK5 on March 09, 2016, 06:42:57 PM
I agree that this would be beneficial for users. And as Zeila said, yeah I think we would need a separate place to put all these. The game pages are convoluted enough with "Two Pianos" and "Duet" all over the place.

My big question is this: Say someone (for now we'll call this person "Arranger Y") takes a sheet already arranged for piano by Arranger X. Arranger Y doesn't bother starting from scratch, but rather just removes all staves that don't have the melody, slightly fixes up the melody so it's clear, adds some chords and calls it done. Who gets the credit? It seems unfair for Arranger Y to put his/her name on it despite doing basically none of the work.
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: Olimar12345 on March 09, 2016, 07:07:31 PM
^that's one of the problems we came to with simplified arrangements. I'd say that they should all be done from scratch to avoid this issue.

Tbh, no one really cares about the transcriber for lead sheets. We could still put "transcribed by ______" if we want to keep track of who does what though.
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: Sebastian on March 09, 2016, 08:36:09 PM
My big question is this: Say someone (for now we'll call this person "Arranger Y") takes a sheet already arranged for piano by Arranger X. Arranger Y doesn't bother starting from scratch, but rather just removes all staves that don't have the melody, slightly fixes up the melody so it's clear, adds some chords and calls it done. Who gets the credit? It seems unfair for Arranger Y to put his/her name on it despite doing basically none of the work.
Indeed. That is one of the biggest problems. I can see some people doing exactly that: Taking already arranged sheets, copy/pasted the melody, and putting it as their own.
Basically this sums it up in the best way:
I'd say that they should all be done from scratch to avoid this issue.

If we go ahead with this, another option that we should add is the option to arrange a sheet for a specific instrument. For example, my instrument, cello. Surely the sheets would be different if arranged for a specific instrument and the arranger could add in what's easier to play on the cello, for example, bowings, clefs, etc.
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: Olimar12345 on March 10, 2016, 03:37:36 AM
Lead sheets aren't meant for specific instruments, only specific transpositions. That is literally the purpose of a lead sheet: something that many different instrumentalists can understand and use.  Google search a fake book to get ideas of what they are and how they work.
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: Sebastian on March 10, 2016, 03:55:44 AM
I know exactly what lead sheets are. I'm just saying that maybe we could add the option to arrange for a specific instrument. No big deal if no one wants to do that.Only adding lead sheets would be great.
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: JDMEK5 on March 10, 2016, 04:19:26 AM
^that's one of the problems we came to with simplified arrangements. I'd say that they should all be done from scratch to avoid this issue.
Trouble is, there's no real way to enforce that. Someone may very well change articulations or something just to fake out the mods.

I'm just saying that maybe we could add the option to arrange for a specific instrument.
I think that would take way more webspace than it's worth. And hosting a site ain't free.
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: Bespinben on March 10, 2016, 04:21:19 AM
Detective Piplup will know if you used reference material. Everytime.
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: Sebastian on March 10, 2016, 04:23:04 AM
I think that would take way more webspace than it's worth. And hosting a site ain't free.
I assumed it'd be hosted here.

Detective Piplup will know if you used reference material. Everytime.
👍
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: JDMEK5 on March 10, 2016, 04:23:42 AM
I assumed it'd be hosted here.
In the forums? Not many outsiders come here. Not many outsiders know of this secret place...

Detective Piplup will know if you used reference material. Everytime.
Well, I'm sold. Either way, it's the best we can do anyways so I'm for the idea as a whole.
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: Sebastian on March 10, 2016, 04:25:03 AM
In the forums? Not many outsiders come here. Not many outsiders know of this secret place...
The main site.
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: Olimar12345 on March 10, 2016, 04:25:54 AM
The main site.

I think that would take way more webspace than it's worth. And hosting a site ain't free.
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: Altissimo on March 10, 2016, 04:30:32 AM
lurn2red
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: Pianist Da Sootopolis on March 10, 2016, 04:54:16 AM
@Sebastian
What you'd need then would be a version of it in bass clef for cello.
I'm all for it and would be happy to do some; Lead Sheets are excellent sources to learn stuff from. That said, I'm not sure that everything here can even be turned into a lead sheet, but that's a separate discussion.
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: Winter on March 24, 2016, 03:10:50 AM
I had an earlier proposition where every sheet on NSM had a base sheet (the ones already present) and then there would be a drop down where more versions of the sheet would be available for download or view. Versions could be lead sheets, duet sheets, orchestral, whatever the arrangers feel like making, any version can be added after the base sheet exists. this way, the main site looks the same as before until you click the dropdown. this prevents clutter and expends our library.

So you can get a feel, here's a quick mock-up:
(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j121/winterkid09/Screenshot_1_zpsq0omegjw.png) (http://s79.photobucket.com/user/winterkid09/media/Screenshot_1_zpsq0omegjw.png.html)

Lead sheets would be an acceptable addition to the wide range of bonus sheets available.

Drop down arrows would only be available if a sheet has an extra version available, and it allows us to have a very attractive way of adding new content. Maestro's Virtuoso sheets can exist again, dahans can submit orchestral arrangements, ahs we can have Duets/Two Pianos, and many lead sheets while still organizing things logically.

Anybody in favor?
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: Nebbles on March 24, 2016, 03:17:45 AM
Huh. I like that idea, actually.
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: Olimar12345 on March 24, 2016, 03:19:08 AM
I would love the addition of lead sheets, but not before discussing it's application to a pulp. For starters, lead sheets are diverse in that they are often offered in popular transpositions for common transposing instruments. To do this right, I feel that we should include C (treble clef), Bb, Eb, and bass clef, and if we're being generous, F. Your idea above works well for duets and other versions, but do you have any suggestions for how to organize these transpositions? I would imagine the easiest thing to do would be to list them all as separate entries according to their transposition, but that might be a bit barbaric.

Also, is there a way to have different transpositions for the same chart not bump the total sheet counter? Technically these will all be the same sheet, just for different instrumentalists to use. More later.
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: Winter on March 24, 2016, 03:21:17 AM
Definitely agree, it should not affect total sheet counter.

OR

we could have two counters. One for total arranged tracks, and another for total sheets including their variations
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: Olimar12345 on March 24, 2016, 03:24:06 AM
we could have two counters. One for total arranged tracks, and another for total sheets including their variations

Also cool, but the transpositions should still be left out of this too. Level 1-1 pno solo, lvl 1-1 C, lvl 1-1 Bb, lvl 1-1 Eb, lvl 1-1 BC, etc. All lead sheets of a single piece should count as one entity.
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: Winter on March 24, 2016, 03:29:45 AM
Either way, doesn't matter too much. There could be an option to select your key, for all I care :D
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: Olimar12345 on March 24, 2016, 03:37:23 AM
This would also mean that each lead sheet would have 12-15 files per tune, which is a pretty big increase from regular things. Perhaps we could leave out midi files since they'd be exponentially more useless in that fashion.
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: Th3Gavst3r on March 24, 2016, 05:44:03 AM
Having a second dropdown menu from the download buttons might be a good way to indicate lead sheets as one entry:

(http://i.imgur.com/wqNBXEy.png)
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: Dude on March 24, 2016, 07:56:25 AM
In regards to the transpositions, that's a lot of extra files to host, is it really necessary?

I think just a lead sheet would be enough.
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: Deku Trombonist on March 24, 2016, 08:40:09 AM
Transpositions? Give sight transposing a go. It's really not that hard, especially with something as skeletal as a lead sheet.
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: Olimar12345 on March 24, 2016, 12:54:28 PM
In the world of jazz, in which lead sheets are the most prominent, that is the standard.
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: Sebastian on March 24, 2016, 05:39:02 PM
Spoiler
Having a second dropdown menu from the download buttons might be a good way to indicate lead sheets as one entry:

(http://i.imgur.com/wqNBXEy.png)
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This is actually a pretty good idea. If someone wanted to make a lead sheet, we could require that you make it in every key (C , Bb, Eb, and bass clef)? Then we wouldn't just have one key if this song and another key of that song etc.
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: JDMEK5 on March 24, 2016, 06:25:47 PM
Transpositions? Give sight transposing a go. It's really not that hard, especially with something as skeletal as a lead sheet.
Honestly, this is probably our best solution to our "We-have-way-too-many-files-per-track!!" problem. Just one lead sheet in C could easily suffice.

Though I do like the dropdown menu that Winter suggested. For Duets and Two Pianos and Lead Sheets and Orchestral and Ensembles and etc.
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: Dude on March 24, 2016, 08:05:22 PM
This is actually a pretty good idea. If someone wanted to make a lead sheet, we could require that you make it in every key (C , Bb, Eb, and bass clef)? Then we wouldn't just have one key if this song and another key of that song etc.
that seems like too much work for not enough... reward(?) IMO

Idk what word to use cuz we don't get anything anyway, but basically I don't think many people will use all of them so it seems wasteful.
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: Olimar12345 on March 24, 2016, 08:45:23 PM
 If we were going to pick a single transposition to do lead sheet in, Bb is probably the most popular used trans. for lead sheets (really, treble clef C is probably one of the least popular transpositions for this idea). Although tbh, this idea of having lead sheets doesn't really work unless you provide all the transpositions. Lead sheets are supposed to be generalized so that multiple different kinds of instruments can benefit from them.
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: Winter on March 25, 2016, 03:03:22 PM
that seems like too much work for not enough... reward(?) IMO

Idk what word to use cuz we don't get anything anyway, but basically I don't think many people will use all of them so it seems wasteful.

I don't think anybody was suggesting we are required to make all these sheets, this is not like the PDF project where we are expected to create and upload 2000+ files, it is a method that allows any amount of variety on any amount of sheets, small or large. No work is required that hasn't already been done by an arranger who wanted that product on the site. If somebody bothered arranging it, it also must be something somebody eventually wants to read...
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: Sebastian on March 25, 2016, 03:27:11 PM
I don't think anybody was suggesting we are required to make all these sheets, this is not like the PDF project where we are expected to create and upload 2000+ files, it is a method that allows any amount of variety on any amount of sheets, small or large. No work is required that hasn't already been done by an arranger who wanted that product on the site. If somebody bothered arranging it, it also must be something somebody eventually wants to read...
This is exactly right.
Title: Re: Lead sheets?
Post by: Jer on September 08, 2019, 05:00:09 PM
We've been trying to accomplish this over at VGLeadSheets.com.  We currently have over 300 lead sheets that have been getting a lot of usage in the Jam Clinic at MAGFest.  Every sheet is peer-reviewed and goes through a review process so that the number of mistakes in the final product are minimal.

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