I'm at work now (I'm such a rebel!!!); I'll have the game posted up with Roles, PMs, and everything tonight.
Game Log:Night 1 (http://forum.ninsheetm.us/index.php?topic=6336.msg251269#msg251269) - vermilionvermin is wolfed (Human).
Day 1 (http://forum.ninsheetm.us/index.php?topic=6336.msg251326#msg251326) - Olimar12345 is lynched (Wolf).
Night 2 (http://forum.ninsheetm.us/index.php?topic=6336.msg251665#msg251665) - Bird is attacked, but survives.
Day 2 (http://forum.ninsheetm.us/index.php?topic=6336.msg251876#msg251876) - Funnygurl555 is Insta'd (Brutal Wolf), Dude is brutalled (Human).
Night 3 (http://forum.ninsheetm.us/index.php?topic=6336.msg251934#msg251934) - Bird is wolfed (One-shot Bulletproof with a Gun).
Day 3 (http://forum.ninsheetm.us/index.php?topic=6336.msg252043#msg252043) - maelstrom is lynched (Invisible Charismatic Human).
Night 4 (http://forum.ninsheetm.us/index.php?topic=6336.msg252333#msg252333) - Liggy is wolfed (Mason).
Day 4 (http://forum.ninsheetm.us/index.php?topic=6336.msg252454#msg252454) - NocturneofShadow is Insta'd (Human).
Until then though:
It is now Twilight Phase 0. Twilight Phase 0 will end sometime this evening because Mashi comes home late sometimes or something idk.
Bonus points to whoever posts the most frivolous stuff.*************************
1. Bird
2.
MaestroUGC Bubbles
3. maelstrom.
4. Olimar12345
5. BlackDragonSlayer
6. vermilionvermin
7. fank009
8.
Yugi Funnygurl555
9. Dude
10. davy
11. NocturneofShadow
12. Liggy
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Because Bird is incapable of proper reading and abstract thing!!! -
Formatting, Courtesy of Bird:
TWG: Mashi4evaEffects:Custom Roles: Prior to Night 1 during the "Twilight Phase," three options will be selected to determine the game's setup. One option will be randomly selected. Wolves will be informed which option was chosen and must select two more. Humans are not informed of which options are chosen. If the Role includes "Wolf" in it, Wolves choose which Wolf becomes that Role. Otherwise, a random Human is converted to the Role instead. Roles with the term "Invisible" in them will receive the Human Role PM.
Wills: Every Player may PM a "Will" to the Host, containing a message to be posted should they die.
Cardflipping: Players' Roles are revealed to the thread when they die.
Roles:1. [Wolf Role 1 - Corresponds to Human Role 1]
2. [Wolf Role 2 - Corresponds to Human Role 2]
3. [Wolf Role 3 - Corresponds to Human Role 3]
4. [Human Role 1 - Corresponds to Wolf Role 1]
5. [Human Role 2 - Corresponds to Wolf Role 2]
6. [Human Role 3 - Corresponds to Wolf Role 3]7. Human
8. Human
9. Human
10. Human
11. Human
12. Human
Role Pairings:1. Wolf Roleblocker : Wizard
2. Wolf Painter : Seer
3. Wolf Forger : Invisible Grandma*
4. Weakling Wolf : Drunken Seer**
5. Brutal Wolf : One-shot Bulletproof with a Gun
6. Wolf Shaman : Two Masons
7. Wolf Janitor : Oracle
8. Wolf Lancer : Friendly Neighbour
9. Traitor : Invisible Charismatic HumanNotes:
*Grandma - Receives the Human's PM. If targeted, the Player targeting him/her will die. Power does not apply to wolfings/lancings.
**Drunken Seer - Receives the Seer's PM. Seering results will be a random colour in the game (1/3 chance to be Red, Green, or Blue)
***Wolf - In this case, one of the Wolves remains a normal Wolf, while a random Human is converted to a Traitor.
Descriptions:1. Wolf Roleblocker and Wizard
Wolf Roleblocker - Can target one Player each Night Phase via PM to the Host. If that Player attempted to use a power, it does not go through. The Player is not alerted (a Seer would receive "no result" however).
Wizard - Can target one Player each Night Phase via PM to the Host. If that Player attempted to use a power, it fails, and any powers targeting that Player (including wolfings) fail as well.
2. Wolf Painter and Seer
Wolf Painter - Can target one Player each Night Phase via PM to the Host, with a color (red, blue, or green) included in this PM. That Player will appear that color to seers the current Night Phase and following Day Phase. Can self-target.
Seer - Can target one Player each Night Phase via PM to the Host. At the beginning of the following Day Phase, you will be told that Player's color. Can self-target.
3. Wolf Forger and Invisible Grandma
Wolf Forger - Can target one Player via PM to the Host at any point in the game, including a message in this PM. If that Player dies, this message will be revealed to the thread rather than their will. Single use.
Invisible Grandma - Receives the Human role PM. If anybody targets this Player with a power, they die at the end of the phase the power was used.
4. Weakling Wolf and Drunken Seer
Weakling Wolf- If targeted by any ability, dies at the end of the phase the ability was used.
Drunken Seer - Receives the Seer role PM. Receives completely random seering results.
5. Brutal Wolf and One-Shot Bulletproof with a Gun
Brutal Wolf- If lynched, a randomly selected Player who voted for you will also die.
One-Shot Bulletproof with a Gun - Survives a single kill-attempt against him, as long as it occurs at night. Can target one Player a single Night Phase via PM to the Host. That Player dies at the end of the phase.
6. Wolf Shaman and Two Masons
Wolf Shaman- Can target one Player each Night Phase via PM to the Host. At the beginning of the following Day Phase, you will be told that Player's color. Can self-target.
Mason - The two mason Players know who each other are at the beginning of the game.
7. Wolf Janitor and Oracle
Wolf Janitor- Can target one Player one time at any point in the game via a PM to the Host. When that Player dies, instead of that Player's role and will being revealed publicly, it will be PM'd to the Wolves.
Oracle - Can target one Player at any point in the game, and change this target as frequently as desired via PM to the Host. When the Oracle dies, that Player's role flips to the thread in addition to their own.
8. Wolf Lancer and Friendly Neighbor
Wolf Lancer- Once per game, may convert a wolfing into a lancing. The wolfed Player will not cardflip, be able to use powers (eg. Bulletproof won't survive, Grandma won't return kill), or have their will revealed.
Friendly Neighbor - Can target one Player one time at any point in the game via a PM to the Host. At the end of the phase the PM was sent, that Player
learns who the Friendly Neighbor is.
9. Traitor and Charismatic Human
Traitor- A Human role that doesn't know who the Wolves are, but only wins if they do.
Charismatic Human- Charismatic Human receives the Human role PM and his lynch vote counts double.
*Extra Humans may be converted when applicable.
"What I Wrote Originally And Then Bird Wore It Better"
1. Wolf
2. Wolf
3. Wolf
4. Human
5. Human
6. Human
7. Human
8. Human
9. Human
10. Human
11. Human
12. Human
The game will be a Role Cardflip. That is, upon death, the Player's Role will be revealed.
The setup initially begins with 3 Wolves and 9 Humans at the start of the game. However, during the Twilight Phase, Wolves will be able to choose 3 of 9 different benefits/detriments. For each they choose, the Human Team will receive a benefit/detriment of equivalent value.
This game will also incorporate a Mechanic called "Wills." All Players may send me a PM containing a message that they would like to be posted at the end of the Phase if they die. Wills may be changed at any point while alive.
Wolves win if it becomes literally impossible for Humans to win unless through a KitB or series of KitBs.
One option will be randomly selected. Wolves will be informed which option was chosen and must select two more. Humans are not informed of which options are chosen. If the Role includes "Wolf" in it, Wolves select which Wolf is converted to the Role. Otherwise, a random Human is converted to the Role instead. Roles with the term "Invisible" in them will receive the Human Role PM.
Options:1. Wolf Roleblocker : Wizard
2. Wolf Painter : Seer
3. Wolf Forger : Invisible Grandma*
4. Weakling Wolf : Drunken Seer**
5. Brutal Wolf : One-shot Bulletproof with a Gun
6. Wolf Shaman : Two Masons
7. Wolf Janitor : Oracle
8. Wolf Lancer : Friendly Neighbour
9. Traitor : Invisible Charismatic Human
Notes:
*Grandma - Receives the Human's PM. If targeted, the Player targeting him/her will die. Power does not apply to wolfings/lancings.
**Drunken Seer - Receives the Seer's PM. Seering results will be a random colour in the game (1/3 chance to be Red, Green, or Blue)
***Wolf - In this case, one of the Wolves remains a normal Wolf, while a random Human is converted to a Traitor.
Role PMs:
Quote from: Wolf RoleblockerYou are the Wolf Roleblocker! Every Night Phase, send a PM to the Host with the name of a Player. If that Player uses a power that Phase, the power will not go through. Players are not informed if they were roleblocked (except for Roles such as the Seer, who will instead receive no result instead).
Quote from: Wolf PainterYou are the Wolf Painter! Every Night Phase, send a PM to the Host with the name of a Player and a colour (must be Red, Green, or Blue). If that Player is seered, he/she will appear as that colour.
Quote from: Weakling WolfYou are the Weakling Wolf! If you are targeted by an ability, you will die.
Quote from: Brutal WolfYou are the Brutal Wolf! If you are lynched, a random Player that voted for you will die alongside you.
Quote from: Wolf ShamanYou are the Wolf Shaman! Every Night Phase, send a PM to the Host with the name of a Player. At the end of the Night Phase, will receive a PM with that Player's colour.
Quote from: Wolf JanitorYou are the Wolf Janitor! Once per game, may send the Host a PM to hide a body. If that Player is killed, that Player will not cardflip, have his/her power used, or have his/her Will revealed publicly. The Wolves will be told that Player's Role and Will.
Quote from: Wolf LancerYou are the Wolf Lancer! Once per game, may send the Host a PM to go "Juggernaut" and convert a wolfing into a lancing. The wolfed Player will not cardflip, have his/her power used, or have his/her Will revealed.
Quote from: Wolf ForgerYou are the Wolf Forger! May send the Host a PM with the name of a Player and a message at any point in the game. Once per game, if that Player dies that Phase, the Wolf Forger's message will be posted instead of that Player's Will. May opt to discard the Will and leave a blank message as well.
Quote from: TraitorYou are the Traitor! You win with the Wolves.
Quote from: WizardYou are the Wizard! Every Night Phase, may send the Host a PM with the name of a Player. That Player will not be able to use his/her power, but will also not be affected by any other powers. If that Player is seered, the seering will yield no result.
Quote from: Seer/Drunken SeerYou are the Seer! Every Night Phase, may send the Host a PM with the name of a Player. At the end of the Night Phase, will receive a PM with that Player's colour. Can't seer self.
Quote from: MasonYou are the Mason! The other Mason is [Player].
Quote from: One-shot Bulletproof with a GunYou are the One-shot Bulletproof with a Gun! If wolfed/vigi'd, you will survive (however, will not survive lancings). You are also given a gun; may send the Host a PM with the name of a Player at any point in the game. At the end of the Phase, that Player will be killed.
Quote from: OracleYou are the Oracle! May send the Host a PM with the name of a Player at any point in the game. If the Oracle is killed, the Role of that Player will be revealed publicly. May change the targeted Player at any point.
Quote from: Friendly NeighbourYou are the Friendly Neighbour! May send the Host a PM with the name of a Player at any point in the game. At the end of the Phase, that Player will learn the identity of the Friendly Neighbour.
Quote from: HumanYou are a Human!
I was robbed, I had a game all planned out and everything.
But now, some people don't know their place and just have to get out of line.
Yay! Finally! I actually get to be in another twg!
I even had a super good name:
TWG 69: Sexual Innuendo
This game better be erotic or else.
bettin 10 dolla on the game being twilight, umineko, jojos, or little busters themed
also
the most frivolous stuff
mashi why
Please Twilight Princess theme
PLEASE MASHI
I'M ASKING IN THE MOST FRIVOLOUS WAY
or I'll kill you
I got to see the game before you guys. ;)
Sure you did. :P
Mashi didn't like my suggestions. :'(
Liggy has entered the battlefield!
Also, put up game stuff and will send Wolf Role PMs shortly. Suggest that people go invisible so Whois Online shenanigans do not ensue!!!
P.S. - Yugi wins bonus points.
P.S.S. - Twilight Phase -712 has begun! Twilight Phase -712 ends August 1st, 2014 at 11:59PM EDT.
P.S.S.S. - sry bird
best
So, to clear things up:
If the wolves pick a role, the humans get the same role? For example, if the wolves choose a Painter, Shaman, and the randomly selected option is the Lancer, then the humans get a Seer, two Masons, and a Friendly Neighbour?
Quote from: Bird on July 31, 2014, 06:54:09 PMI got to see the game before you guys. ;)
And I before you. ;)
Only Wolf PMs have been sent so far. Human PMs and stuff haven't been sent out yet, but I'll send them once Twilight Phase is over and Roles have been decided.
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on July 31, 2014, 09:21:24 PMSo, to clear things up:
If the wolves pick a role, the humans get the same role? For example, if the wolves choose a Painter, Shaman, and the randomly selected option is the Lancer, then the humans get a Seer, two Masons, and a Friendly Neighbour?
Yes.
Great idea! And finally, a game in EST.
Words cannot describe how disappointed I am rn
Thinking maelstrom is a wolf at this point.
What if the wizard shoots himself
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on August 01, 2014, 07:57:48 AMWhat if the wizard shoots himself
He is killed by a rouge paradox.
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on August 01, 2014, 07:57:48 AMWhat if the wizard shoots himself
Nothing happens. The Wizard cancels his/her own power.
I think it's pretty obvious that the wolves will pick options 2 and 9. Given that the last option is random, those are definitely their best two choices. On their own, they'd be pretty bad, but together they have an incredible amount of synergy. Normally giving the humans a seer is a bad idea, but with two millers in the game, it'll actually work against them rather than help them. That, combined with the fact that the seer may think that they're drunk, suggests that it'll essentially be a worthless role to the humans. The charismatic is also a worthless role to the humans. Having a painter also provides some insurance in case an Oracle is drawn.
But they'll choose 8 if 3 or 5 are chosen. If any human gets a 3/5 role assignment, they could tell that the wolves also chose 8.
Quote from: maelstrom. on August 01, 2014, 08:44:57 AMBut they'll choose 8 if 3 or 5 are chosen. If any human gets a 3/5 role assignment, they could tell that the wolves also chose 8.
I meant 3 or 5 are randomly picked.
The invisible grandma can still be killed by wolfing. Regarding the one-shot bulletproof, the lancer is still not particularly useful since you won't know who the bulletproof is until you've attacked them and wasted a wolfing. Unless you have a seer, which would cause two masons to be added to the game, which is also not a great idea for them.
You seem to have given this a lot of thought.
At the very least, they will choose 9. Another person on their side plus two decoys would work wonderfully. But if the humans don't have a seer at all....
9 is the strongest number
I don't know why people are talking about what they think the wolves will do. Seems like something that's best saved until after the wolves have already picked.
Because a certain someone is dumb and can't read (and I guess I'm dumb too for listening and not being explicitly clear too........), I'll be making a 24 hour extension to this Twilight Phase and changing option 9.
Sorry for the inconvenience, it was left that way out of a misunderstanding.
Option 9 has been changed so that two Humans are not converted into Invisible Millers.
Twilight Phase will now end August 2nd, 2014 at 11:59PM EDT.
Sorry again for the inconvenience.
Nice. That's a lot more fair.
Quote from: vermilionvermin on August 01, 2014, 02:54:17 PMI don't know why people are talking about what they think the wolves will do. Seems like something that's best saved until after the wolves have already picked.
A few reasons, 1) lay a false trail, 2) get a plan of attack ready for them.
phase hasnt been that talkative, but it has been revealing.
Quote from: Bird on August 01, 2014, 07:34:41 AMThinking maelstrom is a wolf at this point.
I can agree with you in this instance, his post really is filler, there is something that bothers me.
and then you have another go at him
Quote from: Bird on August 01, 2014, 08:48:11 AMThe invisible grandma can still be killed by wolfing. Regarding the one-shot bulletproof, the lancer is still not particularly useful since you won't know who the bulletproof is until you've attacked them and wasted a wolfing. Unless you have a seer, which would cause two masons to be added to the game, which is also not a great idea for them.
You seem to have given this a lot of thought.
Very subtle. The most alarming for me, is that there is no reaction from mael. None at all. he is playing very calm, and unless I'm missing something that doesnt make sense at all. wolves know their partners already, so they can start distancing themselves now, if they really wanted to. This being a perfect opportunity to distance. Bird seems to be playing normally though, so I cant really say anything about him though. At this stage I would be inclined to say that they are on different teams at this stage, though I wouldn't mind lynching both.
Quote from: maelstrom. on August 01, 2014, 03:26:18 PMNice. That's a lot more fair.
Human points for mael here
I just want to point out that I'm going to be on a camp in a couple of days, so my activity will drop to nothing then, and I might need to be replaced.
Quote from: Yugi on August 01, 2014, 05:32:50 PMI just want to point out that I'm going to be on a camp in a couple of days, so my activity will drop to nothing then, and I might need to be replaced.
was totes excited for a sec there that i could play but then realized that i am already in :D
well this is awkward , _ ,
two things;
1, mashi, PLEASE use actual night 1 day 1 night 2 method, random numbers just get confusing.
2, when do we get the PMs?
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on August 01, 2014, 10:34:01 PMtwo things;
1, mashi, PLEASE use actual night 1 day 1 night 2 method, random numbers just get confusing.
It is now night 1r98hse98fhw9308tfh9er8h, Day w0o38rhtwose8hfsoe8h begins in 1234543234567897ytr432 hours.
Quote from: Yugi on August 01, 2014, 11:43:09 PMIt is now night 1r98hse98fhw9308tfh9er8h, Day w0o38rhtwose8hfsoe8h begins in 1234543234567897ytr432 hours.
Somewhere in the distance, there is great "no"... (http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/)
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on August 02, 2014, 01:16:51 AMSomewhere in the distance, there is great "no"... (http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/)
That is perfect.
Don't worry, I will NocturneOfShadow!!!
I'll just do it in base .78
You'll get PMs some time after 11:59PM EDT today.
Sent out all the PMs. They're all exactly as they appear in the Role PM Quote section of the spoiler. I didn't colour any of them in the PMs, but if isn't obvious, all Wolves (and Traitor) are Red, all Special Humans are Blue, and all normal Humans are Green.
Twilight Phase has ended. It is now Night 1. Night 1 ends August 3rd, 2014 at 11PM EDT.
^3
mashi that's a cool thumbs up for you
also a nonexistent number cubed
I got a PM that I was a wolf wtf?
Quote from: Bird on August 02, 2014, 09:45:57 PMI got a PM that I was a wolf wtf?
totes wuff wuff
I'm going to write a dope will, watch out wolves.
Normal Human Claim. Nothing special at all.
By the way, if someone dies without a Will, I will automatically make their Will read "i am a big fat loser that cant write wills!!! also frivolous"
Quote from: maelstrom. on August 03, 2014, 08:30:34 AMNormal Human Claim. Nothing special at all.
More human points for mael
If anyone wants to chat, I'm free. not like there's much to chat about right now, but im free d:
I'm the please.
I'm going on camp now, see you all night 2!
Quote from: Yugi on August 03, 2014, 02:53:40 PMI'm going on camp now, see you all night 2!
If you live that long ;)
For real though, wolves should just kill Yugi.
Plot twist: Yugi and Bird are the wolves (don't know about the third one though... :P).
In the past (albeit that one game where I pretended to be dude) you've known me to be very active, very quick to die. I'm going to try a slightly different strategy this time however, and push alt+p before alt+s.
May the best wolf human hybrid thingy raccoon man win.
Funnygurl555 has replaced Yugi.
OH. There's actually a member named that.
OK hi.
I'm new. I know Mashi from another site where he plays TWG.
Be gentle ;o;
Also Mashi should I claim wizard yet.
no but you can claim doctor
but that's no fun !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! =((((((
Quote from: Funnygurl555 on August 03, 2014, 07:49:11 PMBe gentle ;o;
Hi there, one suggestion, pay no attention to those who seek for blood
QuoteAlso Mashi should I claim wizard yet.
*Smacks lips for incoming blood.*
or better yet you could claim wolf ;)
Also, try to ignore BDS and Fank.
It's for the best.
Chat link please
Quote from: Dude on August 03, 2014, 08:16:38 PMAlso, try to ignore BDS and Fank.
It's for the best.
please, I can have valid points at times... (that 9/10 goes missed :/) but yeah, A good rule of thumb.
Quote from: fank009 on August 03, 2014, 08:13:03 PMHi there, one suggestion, pay no attention to those who seek for blood
*Smacks lips for incoming blood.*
or better yet you could claim wolf ;)
what if i am actually a wolf though
how would you feel about this fank
Quote from: Dude on August 03, 2014, 08:16:38 PMAlso, try to ignore BDS and Fank.
It's for the best.
i will now actively try to become the best of friends with these "bds" and "fank" people
and
mashi worst host 2014
Quote from: Funnygurl555 on August 03, 2014, 08:21:00 PMi will now actively try to become the best of friends with these "bds" and "fank" people
<3
Shit I messed up the chat link. it goes to the mibbit server for some stupid reason and not nfnet where everyone should be.
Sorry
http://preview.waa.ai/nsmtwg
It should be going to the right place but it's not!
Can we not set our own servers anymore??
This worked for me:
http://client00.chat.mibbit.com/?server=irc.NFnet.org&channel=%23TWGNSM
Boo.
No waais for you :(
Night 1 has ended. vermilionvermin has been wolfed! Is it now Day 1. Day 1 ends August 6th, 2014 at 11:59PM EDT.He was Human.
Quote from: vermilionvermin's Willi am a big fat loser that cant write wills!!! also frivolous
1. Bird
2. MaestroUGC
3. maelstrom.
4. Olimar12345
5. BlackDragonSlayer
6. vermilionvermin7. fank009
8. Yugi
9. Dude
10. davy
11. NocturneofShadow
12. Liggy
lets start the day off with a vote for davy
my will was "it was verm" so that's awkward i guess
Dude, for saying 9 was the best. Makes me think he carefully examined the options, which I don't think he'd be as likely to do as a human.
Everyone should vote asap, even if their reasoning is really poor. Initial suspicions rarely mean much, so no pressure, but responses to initial suspicions are often pretty telling, so it's helpful to get votes into the thread early.
Also, masons should obviously claim if they exist. That's one of the few roles the wolves won't feel comfortable false claiming.
do you even 2hu?
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Cirno
Read the fandom area.
Safety on BDS for now
Quote from: fank009 on August 03, 2014, 09:32:35 PMlets start the day off with a vote for davy
Any reasoning for that?
Quote from: Bird on August 03, 2014, 11:14:49 PMEveryone should vote asap, even if their reasoning is really poor. Initial suspicions rarely mean much, so no pressure, but responses to initial suspicions are often pretty telling, so it's helpful to get votes into the thread early.
Well, so far we've had you and maelstrom discussing the best wolf choices, verm questioning why you were doing that and fank justifying it. Also I wonder why you are going after the players discussing the wolf choices why you were discussing them yourself as well. None of this is strong enough for a vote ATM though.
I'll vote for
Liggy for now. I haven't really seen much from him and placing a vote on someone is a way to get them more active (like fank prooved).
Bird for now.
Quote from: davy on August 04, 2014, 01:05:16 AMAny reasoning for that?
mainly going back to the quiet twilight phase. wolves have no reason to really contribute to discussion. that and somewhat of a meta, of back when we were scum buddies, dont know if its me, but just that vibe of staying out till needed, made you top priority over others.
Not a lot to go on. A few tells here and there, but only from a handful
People who I reckon should get a D1 pass and reasons why:
Maestro: From chat- Maestro had a really lost sense in his stride. may have missed the first few phases, was uneducated with the setup, and argued against liggy as to why getting masons to claim was a bad idea. (hope one of the two have the chat log cause I don't)
Liggy: That argument concerning why masosn claim is the reason why both, I feel, should get day 1 pass. of course either could be playing ignorant, though the wording of liggy somewhat comes off as sincere. (again, where's the log). The tone of liggys argument countering maestro's argument, makes it unlikely that these two are partners.
Mael: Im just going to direct you to a few posts that I have quoted. If mael is a wolf, he ran into the guillotine. there wasnt any real fire coming under him, he wasn't in a pressure to claim. though I have seen um... novice players pull the pin early his erratic nature seems to be telling of an excited townie.
Bird: Bird's currently the (unoficial) leader of the group, taking names and stating plans. He has wolf play tells showing, though he deserves at least a day 1 pass. (day 2 ... I'll think about it)
Funnygurl: newcomer, mashi's friend... I'm a bit intimidated I'll admit, jumpy style yet she (from what I take) knows what she is doing. would vote for pressure, but I would love to see her (antics) for day 2
Me and BDS are Masons. The argument I had about masons claiming was kinda pointless, since I was going to claim anyways!!!
I'll post the log and make a vote later when I have more time.
Needless to say: me and BDS aren't confirmed until one of us dies. Don't claim to us.
Things have come up and I need to drop out.
^wat a loosr
Anyway, I'll safety on davy or something for now.
I guess I'll switch to Maestro because idk if we should risk killing BDS or not? ???
I actually forget what a mason does lol
Oh. They do nothing.
Lame.
Maelstrom
NoS
Quote from: fank009 on August 04, 2014, 01:52:37 AMmainly going back to the quiet twilight phase. wolves have no reason to really contribute to discussion. that and somewhat of a meta, of back when we were scum buddies, dont know if its me, but just that vibe of staying out till needed, made you top priority over others.
Well, it's not as if humans had that much of a reason to contribute. Also I have been inactive night one nearly every game since TWG LVII, the only times I wasn't inactive since that game was when I was trying to set up an alliance.
Quote from: Liggy on August 04, 2014, 05:06:43 AMMe and BDS are Masons. The argument I had about masons claiming was kinda pointless, since I was going to claim anyways!!!
Guess I'll remove my vote from Liggy and put it on
bird for
Quote from: davy on August 04, 2014, 01:05:16 AMgoing after the players discussing the wolf choices why you were discussing them yourself as well.
Quote from: Olimar12345 on August 04, 2014, 09:09:39 AMAnyway, I'll safety on davy or something for now.
Don't safety someone that already has a vote on him.
Quote from: MaestroUGC on August 04, 2014, 08:56:04 AMThings have come up and I need to drop out.
:(
I guess it's good you weren't hosting then.
Quote from: davy on August 04, 2014, 11:39:50 AMDon't safety someone that already has a vote on him.
Sorry, didn't see the vote for you already. I guess safety on
Funnygurl555 since no one's voted for her yet d:
Dude: The possibility that you were making a Cirno reference crossed my mind, but I figured you would have used ⑨ instead of 9 if that were the case. Either way, that makes sense.
Olimar: wut? Who is funnygurl555?
I'm gonna change my vote to Davy. My suspicions on Dude and Maelstrom weren't motivated by me thinking that discussing the wolf strategies was something suspicious. Rather, it was suspicious for either of those two players (especially Dude) to talk about it. Either way, I'm not suspicious of either of them anymore.
Oh, I see that Funnygurl has replaced someone. That's too bad, since now we don't have a replacement for Maestro.
You should edit the OP to include that information!
Quote from: Bird on August 04, 2014, 12:01:03 PMDude: The possibility that you were making a Cirno reference crossed my mind, but I figured you would have used ⑨ instead of 9 if that were the case.
I was too lazy to change the keyboard format for it lol.
Absurdly Awesome Person (aka Bubbles) has replaced MaestroUGC.
:D
thx bird
:D
So, I find it really odd that Nocturne of Shadow and Maelstrom voted for each other within 12 minutes of each other, with no explanation or anything else in the post.
Yeah, there were a lot of meaningless votes this phase, and it is entirely possible Maelstrom voted for Nocturne in response to being voted for, but I feel like if that was a human exchange there would have been more words said.
Here's that log I said I would post:
Spoiler
[2014-08-04 00:17:13] <Maestro> You know, there should be absolutely no claims.
[2014-08-04 00:17:22] <fank009> ^
[2014-08-04 00:17:26] <Liggy> normally I would agree 100%
[2014-08-04 00:17:41] <Liggy> but there are some roles such as mason and friendly neighbor which exist only to be claimed
[2014-08-04 00:17:49] <Maestro> Too many factors and alternate possibilities and ways for people to interlope and muddy the data.
[2014-08-04 00:18:14] <fank009> masons and friendly neighbours can easily be counter claimed.
[2014-08-04 00:18:25] <Maestro> All of them can.
[2014-08-04 00:18:31] <fank009> but putting the claims now,
[2014-08-04 00:18:47] <fank009> does force wolves to put their money where their mouth is.
[2014-08-04 00:18:59] <fank009> and stick a foot down in the cement and keep it there.
[2014-08-04 00:19:14] <Liggy> masons and friendly neightbors WANT to be counterclaimed
[2014-08-04 00:19:28] <Liggy> like I can see nothing bad that can happen from them claiming if they exist
[2014-08-04 00:19:53] <Liggy> They claim and aren't killed.
[2014-08-04 00:19:57] <Liggy> We can't trust them completely
[2014-08-04 00:20:10] <fank009> but liggy, GAMBITS.
[2014-08-04 00:20:14] <Liggy> but either we get the names of two humans or two wolves, both of which is great (or one human in case of FN)
[2014-08-04 00:20:19] <Maestro> For once I agree with fank
[2014-08-04 00:20:21] <Liggy> They get killed
[2014-08-04 00:20:32] <Liggy> if they are masons, we get the name of a confirmed human and can start an alliance
[2014-08-04 00:20:40] <Liggy> well not really an alliance per se
[2014-08-04 00:20:45] <Liggy> but they can still collect claims
[2014-08-04 00:20:55] <Liggy> mind you, they shouldn't share those claims to other people
[2014-08-04 00:21:00] <Maestro> What's to stop two wolves from claiming mason.
[2014-08-04 00:21:05] <Liggy> nothing at all
[2014-08-04 00:21:17] <Liggy> I'm not stupid enough to suggest you to claim to a living mason
[2014-08-04 00:21:19] <fank009> Fank mentioning the word gambits?
[2014-08-04 00:21:22] <Liggy> force the wolves to make a move
[2014-08-04 00:21:30] <Liggy> they aren't going to keep both masons alive
[2014-08-04 00:21:36] <Liggy> as soon as one dies mass claim to the other
[2014-08-04 00:21:37] <Maestro> We can't force the wolves to do shit.
[2014-08-04 00:21:43] <Liggy> yeah we can
[2014-08-04 00:21:48] <Maestro> How?
[2014-08-04 00:22:00] <Liggy> if the two masons claims
[2014-08-04 00:22:07] <Liggy> the wolves have two options
[2014-08-04 00:22:11] <Liggy> kill them or not kill them
[2014-08-04 00:22:15] <Liggy> both are advantageous for us
[2014-08-04 00:22:53] <Maestro> Not killing them does not validate the players who claimed mason, nor disprove them,.'
[2014-08-04 00:22:59] <Liggy> it doesn't
[2014-08-04 00:23:01] <Liggy> however
[2014-08-04 00:23:09] <Liggy> we know that those two players are either both human
[2014-08-04 00:23:12] <Liggy> or both wolves
[2014-08-04 00:23:13] <Maestro> Killing them just makes them targets of opportunity.
[2014-08-04 00:23:24] <Liggy> that's pretty damn useful information to though
[2014-08-04 00:23:27] <fank009> ^^
[2014-08-04 00:23:41] <fank009> not to mention uses up mislynches
[2014-08-04 00:23:46] <Maestro> You're also banking that people will trust the claims in the first place.
[2014-08-04 00:23:51] <Liggy> what no
[2014-08-04 00:23:55] <Liggy> I don't think you are getting what I'm say
[2014-08-04 00:23:57] <Liggy> saying*
[2014-08-04 00:24:05] <Liggy> if we get a pair of mason claims
[2014-08-04 00:24:12] <Liggy> we should not lynch them
[2014-08-04 00:24:14] <Liggy> or claim to them
[2014-08-04 00:24:28] <Liggy> if one of the masons gets wolfed, claim to the other
[2014-08-04 00:24:44] <fank009> again, Gambits
[2014-08-04 00:24:45] <Maestro> But that assumes that there are even mason in the first place.
[2014-08-04 00:24:48] <Liggy> if neither do, then treat it like nothing happens
[2014-08-04 00:24:56] <fank009> wolves can simply not do anything.
[2014-08-04 00:25:04] <fank009> and leave humans like headless chooks
[2014-08-04 00:25:10] <Liggy> however knowing that they are both wolves and humans
[2014-08-04 00:25:12] <Liggy> okay fank
[2014-08-04 00:25:14] <Liggy> there is literally
[2014-08-04 00:25:30] <Liggy> no way this can end badly for us
[2014-08-04 00:25:35] <Liggy> yes, the wolves don't have to kill the mason
[2014-08-04 00:25:49] <fank009> nothing bad doesnt necesarily mean something good
[2014-08-04 00:26:00] <Liggy> um
[2014-08-04 00:26:03] <Liggy> what
[2014-08-04 00:26:15] <Liggy> so are you seriously suggesting
[2014-08-04 00:26:16] <Maestro> So your plan is to wait for two people to claim mason and let the other team decide our next move?
[2014-08-04 00:26:24] <fank009> ^^
[2014-08-04 00:26:28] <Liggy> that we should not execute a plan
[2014-08-04 00:26:34] <fank009> No.
[2014-08-04 00:26:35] <Maestro> What if they're counter claimed?
[2014-08-04 00:26:39] <Maestro> What then?
[2014-08-04 00:26:40] <fank009> plans are good.
[2014-08-04 00:26:40] <Liggy> that's even better
[2014-08-04 00:26:43] <fank009> ^
[2014-08-04 00:26:51] <Liggy> seriously there's no way this can end badly
[2014-08-04 00:26:56] <Liggy> and so many ways this can end well
[2014-08-04 00:27:01] <fank009> CCing is like death for wolves...
[2014-08-04 00:27:03] <Liggy> if masons exist they should claim
[2014-08-04 00:27:10] <Liggy> and then we roll with it
[2014-08-04 00:27:17] <Liggy> the worst case scenario is that nothing happens
[2014-08-04 00:27:22] <Maestro> Ok.
[2014-08-04 00:27:24] <Maestro> What if they don'
[2014-08-04 00:27:27] <Maestro> t exist.
[2014-08-04 00:27:35] <Liggy> [00:27:17 EDT] Liggy the worst case scenario is that nothing happens
[2014-08-04 00:27:36] <Liggy> and we move on
[2014-08-04 00:27:41] <fank009> ...
[2014-08-04 00:27:51] <Maestro> So we waste a day and a lynch?
[2014-08-04 00:27:51] <fank009> hello, GAMBITS
[2014-08-04 00:27:55] <Liggy> what no
[2014-08-04 00:28:02] <Liggy> why would we waste a lynch
[2014-08-04 00:28:05] <Liggy> if no one claims
[2014-08-04 00:28:18] <fank009> wolves know which roles arent in the game...
[2014-08-04 00:28:21] <Liggy> I don't get what is so hard about this
[2014-08-04 00:28:22] <Maestro> Fine, that's 1 possible strategy.
[2014-08-04 00:28:23] <fank009> if masons arent in the game, they will claim them.
[2014-08-04 00:28:28] <Maestro> Which banks on only one wolf.
[2014-08-04 00:28:42] <Maestro> We still another two to deal with.
[2014-08-04 00:28:47] <fank009> ^
[2014-08-04 00:28:50] <Liggy> dear god
[2014-08-04 00:28:54] <fank009> find one, find the partners.
[2014-08-04 00:28:58] <Liggy> are you seriously suggesting that we not execute this plan
[2014-08-04 00:29:00] <fank009> classic scum hunting.
[2014-08-04 00:29:06] <Liggy> because it doesn't immediately give us every wolf?
[2014-08-04 00:29:06] <fank009> you can suggest it.
[2014-08-04 00:29:37] <Maestro> WHat if the mason s are real, but they don't get wolfed?
[2014-08-04 00:29:46] <fank009> GAMBITS
[2014-08-04 00:29:47] <Maestro> You say we just ignore them for the rest of the game?
[2014-08-04 00:29:55] <Liggy> more or less, yes
[2014-08-04 00:29:59] <fank009> (I feel like i'll be saying that a lot this game.)
[2014-08-04 00:30:03] <Liggy> however we should be aware that if one is a wolf, the other is
[2014-08-04 00:30:10] <Liggy> and if we kill two wolves the masons are confirmed
[2014-08-04 00:30:39] <Liggy> there is no way this can be bad for us
[2014-08-04 00:30:51] <Liggy> the worst possible outcome is exactly the same as not asking for claims at all
[2014-08-04 00:30:53] <Maestro> What about a wolf painter.
[2014-08-04 00:30:58] <Liggy> what about it?
[2014-08-04 00:31:04] <Maestro> There's cardflips.
[2014-08-04 00:31:13] <fank009> ^
[2014-08-04 00:31:19] <Liggy> and?
[2014-08-04 00:31:20] <Maestro> And in this game it's very easy for the wolves to skew the results.
[2014-08-04 00:31:34] <fank009> ^this.
[2014-08-04 00:31:43] <Liggy> ...and?
[2014-08-04 00:32:09] <Liggy> also:
[2014-08-04 00:32:11] <Liggy> [12:31:37 AM] Aaron George: mashi how does wolf painter affect cardflips if you flip the role
[2014-08-04 00:32:11] <Liggy> [12:31:57 AM] Mashi: It doesn't affect flips.
[2014-08-04 00:32:17] <Maestro> If masons were to claim, you're giving the wolves the night to formulate a counter stragtegy.
[2014-08-04 00:32:27] <Liggy> wtf
[2014-08-04 00:32:31] <Maestro> Well then.
[2014-08-04 00:32:40] <Liggy> so we should go for a plan
[2014-08-04 00:32:52] <Liggy> because the wolves might be able to form a counter strategy?
[2014-08-04 00:32:58] <fank009> ...
[2014-08-04 00:33:23] <Maestro> Well if painting doesn't effect card flips then this is much better sounding.
[2014-08-04 00:34:01] <Liggy> I don't see how having painting affecting card flips mattered at all here
[2014-08-04 00:34:11] <fank009> Wolf Painter - Can target one Player each Night Phase via PM to the Host, with a color (red, blue, or green) included in this PM. That Player will appear that color to seers and cardflips for the current Night Phase and following Day Phase. Can self-target.
[2014-08-04 00:34:25] <Maestro> Uh.
[2014-08-04 00:34:27] <fank009> Hello... SETUPS
[2014-08-04 00:34:35] <Maestro> That's what I was thinking.
[2014-08-04 00:34:54] <fank009> just paint a mason green or red
[2014-08-04 00:34:54] <Maestro> But Mashi just contradicted himself.
[2014-08-04 00:34:54] <fank009> ^
[2014-08-04 00:35:10] <fank009> I'll chat with you all later
[2014-08-04 00:35:14] <fank009> ciao
[2014-08-04 00:35:17] <Maestro> Later.
[2014-08-04 00:35:18] <Liggy> what
[2014-08-04 00:35:20] <Liggy> but
[2014-08-04 00:35:24] <Liggy> painting a mason green or red
[2014-08-04 00:35:27] <Liggy> doesn't really change anything
[2014-08-04 00:35:29] |<-- fank009 has left link.nfnet.org (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
[2014-08-04 00:35:30] <Liggy> nvm
[2014-08-04 00:35:39] <Liggy> doesn't really matter though
[2014-08-04 00:36:39] <Maestro> Look, my issue with claims is that it opens up a whole can of worms for the long game.
[2014-08-04 00:37:02] <Liggy> my reasoning is that it can only help us if we don't be stupid about it
[2014-08-04 00:37:22] <Maestro> Imagine this:
[2014-08-04 00:37:25] <Maestro> Masons claim.
[2014-08-04 00:37:31] <Maestro> They live through the night.
[2014-08-04 00:37:38] <Maestro> You say we leave them be.
[2014-08-04 00:37:58] <Maestro> What do we do with that information?
[2014-08-04 00:38:07] <Liggy> until we deem one of them is suspicious enough to be lynched
[2014-08-04 00:38:12] <Maestro> Keep in mind another two people would have died.
[2014-08-04 00:38:16] <Liggy> one of two things:
[2014-08-04 00:38:26] <Liggy> if two wolves are dead, the masons are confirmed humans and we treat them as such
[2014-08-04 00:39:17] <Maestro> I say we just leave claims alone for the moment.
[2014-08-04 00:39:18] <Liggy> if one of the masons is suspicious enough to be lynched, whatever side he flips is also his partners
[2014-08-04 00:39:27] <Liggy> I say there's no reason why not
[2014-08-04 00:39:34] <Maestro> Fine
[2014-08-04 00:39:36] <Maestro> Suggest it.
[2014-08-04 00:40:01] <Maestro> If that is the plan you want to go with, argue for it.
[2014-08-04 00:40:05] <Maestro> I'm saying I don't like it.
[2014-08-04 00:40:22] <Maestro> In the meantime, what do we do?
[2014-08-04 00:40:35] <Maestro> Also, what if one of the masons claims but the other doesn't?
[2014-08-04 00:40:43] <Maestro> Say he's inactive or something?
[2014-08-04 00:42:38] <Liggy> what
[2014-08-04 00:42:52] <Liggy> one mason claims with both names
[2014-08-04 00:43:14] <Maestro> Yes, but the other person would have to back it up.
[2014-08-04 00:43:30] <Liggy> if the other person is so inactive they have no idea what is going on the thread or can't post a simple post like "Mason here." then they are getting replaced by the end of the phase anyways.
[2014-08-04 00:43:50] <Liggy> also we go on like normal while waiting for a claim
[2014-08-04 00:43:56] <Liggy> and we go one like normal after receiving the claim
[2014-08-04 00:44:01] <Maestro> ALright.
There's more of this log I can post, however most of it was idle banter waiting for the game to pick up. I'll gladly post it if asked, however the only people who really said much was me, Maestro (who has been replaced), and fank (who in my experience is cryptic regardless of his role, and last night was no exception).
Quote from: fank009 on August 04, 2014, 01:52:37 AMFunnygurl: newcomer, mashi's friend... I'm a bit intimidated I'll admit, jumpy style yet she (from what I take) knows what she is doing. would vote for pressure, but I would love to see her (antics) for day 2
someone... intimidated by me? *honored*
Anyway, in spirit of D1 antics,
Olimar, HOW DARE YOU VOTE ME grr >=(
^Lol, its a safety. I'll change it when I find a better person to vote for d:
Vote for yourself, wolf.
HUH?
HUH!!!!!!!!!!!
ARE YOU ONE???
(ps i'll do this to everyone that throws a vote on me this phase COME AT ME FELLAS)
Quote from: Liggy on August 04, 2014, 05:06:43 AMMe and BDS are Masons. The argument I had about masons claiming was kinda pointless, since I was going to claim anyways!!!
Yeah okay I'm leaving these guys alone for now.
The only issue I'd have with this claim is that we don't actually know if there's masons in this game. While it's incredibly risky for wolves to claim masons, there is a chance they could get away with it for at least a while.
Quote from: Liggy on August 04, 2014, 02:12:33 PMYeah, there were a lot of meaningless votes this phase, and it is entirely possible Maelstrom voted for Nocturne in response to being voted for.
You are correct in your assumption.
Quote from: Funnygurl555 on August 04, 2014, 06:30:01 PMThe only issue I'd have with this claim is that we don't actually know if there's masons in this game. While it's incredibly risky for wolves to claim masons, there is a chance they could get away with it for at least a while.
If we weren't the masons, I would think the "real" masons would be claiming by now. :P Also, if we weren't masons, there would be three specials, which would likely disrupt our plan.
Like Liggy said, though, if one of us is wolfed, then we're confirmed. :3
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on August 04, 2014, 07:48:42 PMIf we weren't the masons, I would think the "real" masons would be claiming by now. :P Also, if we weren't masons, there would be three specials, which would likely disrupt our plan.
Like Liggy said, though, if one of us is wolfed, then we're confirmed. :3
...
I think I argued this with liggy yesterday, Wolves know the roles. they wouldnt need to "fear" about CC's if they were going to claim as masons and not put them in.
The fact that there would be 3 specials wouldnt really change anything, you'd be in a position to bend and distort the truth.
BDS obviously isnt thinking like a wolf ;)
Quote from: fank009 on August 04, 2014, 07:57:00 PM...
I think I argued this with liggy yesterday, Wolves know the roles. they wouldnt need to "fear" about CC's if they were going to claim as masons and not put them in.
The fact that there would be 3 specials wouldnt really change anything, you'd be in a position to bend and distort the truth.
BDS obviously isnt thinking like a wolf ;)
It would be really difficult to do so, given that you would have to tell at least one special that no other specials claimed, which, assuming everybody is active, would not be likely at all. :P
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on August 04, 2014, 08:19:00 PMIt would be really difficult to do so, given that you would have to tell at least one special that no other specials claimed, which, assuming everybody is active, would not be likely at all. :P
... Forgot for a moment at how easily you let some people pass by your gate
Quote from: fank009 on August 04, 2014, 08:24:04 PM... Forgot for a moment at how easily you let some people pass by your gate
Do not be vague, Fank.
Does anyone have a chat link that works?
Quote from: fank009 on August 04, 2014, 09:36:49 PMpokes last game.
1: That was a faction game.
2: There was a mix up with the claims.
Quote from: maelstrom. on August 04, 2014, 08:32:07 PMDoes anyone have a chat link that works?
Quote from: Olimar12345 on August 03, 2014, 08:45:33 PMThis worked for me:
http://client00.chat.mibbit.com/?server=irc.NFnet.org&channel=%23TWGNSM
link shorteners don't work so here.
When I click go, it bumps me back to the home tab and closes the other ones
fank -> davy
bird -> davy
dude -> Maestro/bubbles
davy -> Bird
BDS -> Bird
Olimar -> Funnygurl555
Nocturne -> Maelstrom
Maelstrom -> Nocturne
Funnygurl555 -> Olimar
2 votes - Davy
2 votes - Bird
1 vote - Funnygurl555
1 vote - Olimar12345
1 vote - Nocturne of Shadow
1 vote - Maelstrom
1 vote - Maestro/Bubbles
If you currently haven't voted (Bubbles, Liggy) or if your vote is a safety or unexplained (Nocturne, Maelstrom, Olimar) you should probably change it now. There's plenty of reasons to suspect people... not amazing reasons, but reasons to have an actual vote rather than a safety.
Liggy
Quote from: Bird on August 05, 2014, 07:57:18 AMIf you currently haven't voted (Bubbles, Liggy) or if your vote is a safety or unexplained (Nocturne, Maelstrom, Olimar) you should probably change it now. There's plenty of reasons to suspect people... not amazing reasons, but reasons to have an actual vote rather than a safety.
You didn't explain your own vote either (happy now Dude?). But you did defend yourself pretty convincingly, so I have no need to keep my vote on you.
It's a tough call between Maestro/Bubbles and
Nocturne for me, Maestro/Bubbles for inactivity and NoS for voting without explaining. Both of does reasons are
Quote from: Bird on August 05, 2014, 07:57:18 AMnot amazing reasons, but reasons to have an actual vote rather than a safety.
Quote from: davy on August 05, 2014, 08:49:19 AMYou didn't explain your own vote either (happy now Dude?). But you did defend yourself pretty convincingly, so I have no need to keep my vote on you.
It's a tough call between Maestro/Bubbles and Nocturne for me, Maestro/Bubbles for inactivity and NoS for voting without explaining. Both of does reasons are
I do have a reason. Fank seemed to be suspicious of maelstrom night 1 but I guess not so much anymore. At any rate based off of past games maelstrom just seems to be very good at this game anyway, and it'd be safer in my opinion to get rid of people who we can't really confirm either way, especially with the wonky seerings going on this game.
Probably won't go anywhere though
Changing to Bird
Quote from: Bird on August 05, 2014, 07:57:18 AMIf you currently haven't voted (Bubbles, Liggy) or if your vote is a safety or unexplained (Nocturne, Maelstrom, Olimar) you should probably change it now. There's plenty of reasons to suspect people... not amazing reasons, but reasons to have an actual vote rather than a safety.
I really don't see it, maybe because I'm new or something and I'm not used to how TWG is played here or anything. I'm soo not down with that vote on Liggy I just saw right now anyway, so my vote stays where it's at.
I remember reading that Bird is taking on a leadership role this game, so I'm not going to take his sudden call to action while we still have quite a bit of time in the day phase that seriously.
Quote from: Olimar12345 on August 05, 2014, 08:40:34 AMLiggy
Why are you voting for someone who claimed mason?
Quote from: davy on August 05, 2014, 08:49:19 AMYou didn't explain your own vote either (happy now Dude?). But you did defend yourself pretty convincingly, so I have no need to keep my vote on you.
That was intentional. I had intended to start a bandwagon against you, since I thought there were two votes on you when I posted. I didn't realize that Olimar12345 had already changed his though. The reason I wanted to start a bandwagon would be to increase activity and see if anyone else voted for you just because you had three votes already.
Quote from: maelstrom. on August 05, 2014, 09:23:28 AMChanging to Bird
Why?
Quote from: Funnygurl555 on August 05, 2014, 09:31:16 AMI remember reading that Bird is taking on a leadership role this game, so I'm not going to take his sudden call to action while we still have quite a bit of time in the day phase that seriously.
What are you talking about? You're not taking my request for votes seriously? My post wasn't a joke, the humans will benefit by making actual votes rather than meaningless ones.
Also, I'll change my own vote once I get home from work.
Quote from: Bird on August 05, 2014, 09:59:13 AMWhat are you talking about? You're not taking my request for votes seriously? My post wasn't a joke, the humans will benefit by making actual votes rather than meaningless ones.
I meant seriously as in I don't find it role indicative, not as in I don't take the actual comment seriously. Whoops.
Quote from: davy on August 05, 2014, 08:49:19 AM(happy now Dude?).
wait what? Did I miss something??
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on August 05, 2014, 09:01:38 AMI do have a reason. Fank seemed to be suspicious of maelstrom night 1 but I guess not so much anymore. At any rate based off of past games maelstrom just seems to be very good at this game anyway, and it'd be safer in my opinion to get rid of people who we can't really confirm either way, especially with the wonky seerings going on this game.
Probably won't go anywhere though
Thanks for giving me a better reason to vote for you. Getting rid of the good players is a pretty common wolf strategy because it allows them to sway the lynch in their favor easier once only a few people are left.
Quote from: Bird on August 05, 2014, 09:59:13 AMThat was intentional. I had intended to start a bandwagon against you, since I thought there were two votes on you when I posted. I didn't realize that Olimar12345 had already changed his though. The reason I wanted to start a bandwagon would be to increase activity and see if anyone else voted for you just because you had three votes already.
ok
Quote from: Dude on August 05, 2014, 10:52:46 AMwait what? Did I miss something??
http://forum.ninsheetm.us/index.php?topic=1068.msg248236#msg248236 (http://forum.ninsheetm.us/index.php?topic=1068.msg248236#msg248236)
http://forum.ninsheetm.us/index.php?topic=1068.msg248864#msg248864 (http://forum.ninsheetm.us/index.php?topic=1068.msg248864#msg248864)
Yayyy you learned how to spell! Gj!
I don't understand how Olimar can be called out for placing an unexplained safety and immediately change his vote to another unexplained safety in the very next post. Same with Maelstrom, for that matter!
Here are some thoughts now:
Bird is playing usual Bird. As much as it sorta annoys that he always steps up into a leadership position, no one else (including me most of the time!) usually does anything without being directed, so I suppose that's good. Better him than no one.
I don't think I've seen anything from Maelstrom or Olimar. Speak more, please!
Nocturne has done nothing. His vote explanation is really odd, too. Why would he vote Maelstrom for being a good player, when players like Bird have a better reputation (no offense Maelstrom, I just haven't seen you play before) and have been much more active? Additionally, his reasoning of "fank suspected him" seems really silly, especially since, in the few games I have played with fank, he has made wild calls of human/wolf at the beginning of the game.
Additionally, Nocturne, Davy, and Bird seemingly have the most amount of votes right now, and I think it's ridiculous to lynch Davy and Bird this early as they are probably our most active players right now.
BDS I hope you and the rest of the thread realize that we aren't going to tell the specials each other since we don't even know how many they are.
Yeah, I guess I haven't been posting that much. Or chatting for that matter, b/c the chat page hates me. :( But this is only my second TWG, so don't expect wonders, but expect something different (maybe). I chose Bird b/c I naturally suspect anyone who takes leadership of their own accord, but since this seems like a common theme, I may change it later on.
Are we told if someone dies from a KitB?
Yes, NocturneOfShadow.
I'm here! I've kinda been lazy for not immediately joining in when I replaced yesterday but I'm going to try to read through everything right now
Ok here goes - I'm a little rusty at twg lol
The only person really standing out to me right now is Bird. He's been "not noticing" a lot of things for taking the unofficial leadership position.
Quote from: Bird on August 04, 2014, 12:01:03 PMOlimar: wut? Who is funnygurl555?
Quote from: Bird on August 04, 2014, 12:02:16 PMOh, I see that Funnygurl has replaced someone. That's too bad, since now we don't have a replacement for Maestro.
Quote from: Bird on August 05, 2014, 09:59:13 AMThat was intentional. I had intended to start a bandwagon against you, since I thought there were two votes on you when I posted. I didn't realize that Olimar12345 had already changed his though. The reason I wanted to start a bandwagon would be to increase activity and see if anyone else voted for you just because you had three votes already.
Both times he accused/went after someone, and then explained himself by saying that he just wasn't paying enough attention and hadn't realized something. However, this is really nothing big and I probably only noticed it because I read the thread in minutes instead of days like it was created. Plus I don't really want to get rid of bird yet because he's providing thoughtful posts
and hes one of the few players i can understandI'm trying not to bandwagon on anyone or cause a huge KitB, but I'll vote for
maelstrom for now. His accusations and reasonings seems pretty weak, and I'd think a newer player would think more carefully about voting for someone
Also, this question just stuck out to me while reading over the OP: If the invisible grandma is targeted by the seer, does the seer die? If they don't and they get the results, would it be blue or green?
Quote from: Mashi on August 05, 2014, 12:38:54 PMYes, NocturneOfShadow.
So here's what I'm thinking. We could intentionally KitB to see if the wolves chose option 9. That was the main one I noticed, but overall I'm thinking we should try to narrow down what the wolves chose so that we can get a bearing on the wolves' powers.
If there's anything I've learned from TWG, KitBs are usually never good.
A few quick thoughts, a book coming up when I can post properly.
Noct: mael is a good player?
Mael: where's the vote for me then ;)
Liggy: I dont throw at a dartboard to determine humans/wolves
Bird: that little go at FG raised my eyebrows.
Quote from: Liggy on August 05, 2014, 12:13:42 PMBDS I hope you and the rest of the thread realize that we aren't going to tell the specials each other since we don't even know how many they are.
So we claim to form an alliance but we don't form an alliance...? :P
I thought only the Invisible Grandma wasn't told they were a special, but going back to read over, two of the specials don't (Invisible Grandma and Charismatic Human)... though, I don't think the wolves would choose the Wolf Forger intentionally.
So who ya sending that message to, maelstrom? ;)
Wouldn't you like to know?
I would like to know.
maelstrom
I have received a Bulletproof claim. I feel safe telling the thread this, as the wolves already know there is a Bulletproof in the game if there is one. If for some reason you are the Bulletproof but did not claim to me, it's probably a good idea to publicly speak up in the thread. I can then reveal the name of the other Bulletproof, and that narrows down the wolves to one of two people. Don't ask me why they claimed to me, though.
Quote from: Bird on August 05, 2014, 06:55:47 PMI would like to know.
maelstrom
It was Jompa and had nothing to do with TWG at all.
Bird.
Quote from: maelstrom. on August 05, 2014, 07:23:33 PMIt was Jompa and had nothing to do with TWG at all.
then why didn't you day so??
Fuck.
*say
And switching to Olimar12345 because he couldn't be more unhelpful right now.
I'm sorry doodle :c it's been a mix of me working+not knowing much of anything yet+trying to avoid playing my signature TWG move.
For those curious, I voted Liggy because of a suspicion that he was trying to start unnecessary stuff, but switched to bird after reading some more recent posts.
Right now, I'm leaning human on the following players:
maelstrom. - His "I'm not a wolf" post, and explanation for his PM make me think he's human.
Nocturne - Said something along the lines of "what if the wolves have a seer?" in the chat. The wolves would know they have a seer because this game has masons.
fank009 - Our thoughts have lined up pretty well this game, making me think he's also human.
Dude - PM stalking makes him look a bit more human, although it's possible he did this intentionally as a wolf.
Liggy - Mason claim.
BDS - Mason claim.
Which leaves Olimar, Bubbles, davy and funnygurl555. Between them, I think Olimar is the best lynch option, since he's the only one who hasn't explained his votes. That may change as discussion this phase progresses.
Quote from: Bird on August 06, 2014, 07:13:35 AMsince he's the only one who hasn't explained his votes.
Literally the post above yours -__-
Bigger defense post/in depth vote explanation coming later after my eye exam.
Quote from: Olimar12345 on August 06, 2014, 07:59:44 AMLiterally the post above yours -__-
I don't consider "I voted for you after reading your posts" a valid explanation. I look forward to your next post though!
I'll admit my vote for bird is weak atm (along with all of my votes so far (hey! It's day 1! Cut me some damn slack d:)) but I switched to him because of his lack of response to this. (http://forum.ninsheetm.us/index.php?topic=6336.msg251503#msg251503) unfortunately, that's the most suspicious thing I've seen yet.
As for the precious Liggy vote, there were two main reasons. 1) I haven't played many games with masons before (actually, only one ever, and I was one d: ) so I find it odd that they would claim so early in the game. Maybe that's normal; I just saw it as a quick "get out of jail free" card for anyone to jump on (especially since masons possess no abilities, an would just need another cooperating teammate). 2) the second reason spawned from this. (http://forum.ninsheetm.us/index.php?topic=6336.msg251384#msg251384) I thought the whole NoS/maelstrom vote thing would be easily written off as frivolousness, and was actually kind of funny. When Liggy was using that as a ground for suspicions it seemed like such a stretch that it made Liggy look suspicious of trying to hastily focus attention on someone else. I confronted him in the chat briefly about this, but it wasn't as big of a deal as I thought it was to him, apparently.
The safetys were merely safetys. No thought went into the targets, other than the switch because I missed the first vote for davy.
As for the "unhelpfulness," I had the whole weekend(and Monday) to chat, but everytime I got online, nobody wanted to chat. Almost every time I got online, at least bird and Liggy were online and seemingly afk. I'd have saved the log, but there was no log, other than my initial "Hello"s. (This does exclude the time, however, when dude dropped by and activity picked up. Unfortunately, no conversation regarding TWG took place.)
Now I'm going to work for an 8 hour shift with possibly no break (xC). My next response might not be until I get home, but if it its slow at work I'll come post some more/chat.
Wait... I just realized something. The wolves could have planned ahead and not chosen the mason thingy, and claimed masons b/c no one else would counter claim. Although I'm not sure if it's a good idea to kill off a human to make sure....
Quote from: maelstrom. on August 06, 2014, 11:59:42 AMWait... I just realized something. The wolves could have planned ahead and not chosen the mason thingy, and claimed masons b/c no one else would counter claim. Although I'm not sure if it's a good idea to kill off a human to make sure....
That would mean everybody knows BDS and Liggy are the wolves. Seems pointlessly risky.
Quote from: maelstrom. on August 06, 2014, 11:59:42 AMWait... I just realized something. The wolves could have planned ahead and not chosen the mason thingy, and claimed masons b/c no one else would counter claim. Although I'm not sure if it's a good idea to kill off a human to make sure....
I
literally said the same thing to bird in the chat last night lolol
Quote from: Olimar12345 on August 06, 2014, 11:34:51 AMI thought the whole NoS/maelstrom vote thing would be easily written off as frivolousness, and was actually kind of funny.
It does seems as if people made the situation more frivolous than it needed to be.
Quote from: Bubbles on August 05, 2014, 02:49:49 PMI'm trying not to bandwagon on anyone or cause a huge KitB, but I'll vote for maelstrom for now. His accusations and reasonings seems pretty weak, and I'd think a newer player would think more carefully about voting for someone
Speaking of Maelstrom...
Considering all the other early-phase votes, I think it's a bit unreasonable to be pointing out Maelstrom in specific for not being "careful" about voting for somebody. In fact, the only people Maelstrom voted for were Nocturne and Bird, so he hasn't even changed his vote that often! :P
In the chat for a bit.
Quote from: Dude on August 06, 2014, 12:38:47 PMI literally said the same thing to bird in the chat last night lolol
Me and maestro argued that to liggy (when he was playing)
Liggy even posted the log
It was too long! You know I don't read those!
Right now, I think I have to agree with Bird that Olimar12345 is the best lynch. Unlike Bird though, I'm not sure about Fank/Dude just yet, though...
Also we have one more hour to discuss things (I think)!
Voting for me on the grounds that I haven't been helpful on day 1 is weak. Bubbles, Nocturne and Funnygirl have been rather quiet too, you know!
In the chat!
A chat log! :O
Spoiler
*** fank009 joined #twgnsm
22:22 fank009 hi olimar...
22:22 Olimar12345 FANK
22:22 fank009 ya?
22:22 Olimar12345 Why do I have to die?
22:22 Olimar12345 Ikd what else to post in the thread
22:23 Olimar12345 I have no means to suspect anyone else
22:23 fank009 ...
22:23 Olimar12345 I mean there is bird
22:23 Olimar12345 but
22:23 Olimar12345 I have said all I know so far :c
22:24 Olimar12345 rereading through the thread now but
22:24 fank009 what bird stated about people who shouldnt be lynch, I pretty much agree with,
22:25 fank009 narrow down with my list, and Im left with a choice between either you or davy...
22:26 Olimar12345 what? lol his maelstrom excuse on that list was terrible!
22:26 Olimar12345 maelstrom just says he's not a wolf and he's in the clear?
22:26 fank009 I have my own reasons for not suspecting mael.
22:26 Olimar12345 I am no wolf!
22:27 fank009 I dont necesarily agree with birds reasons, but I agree with his list nevertheless...
22:27 fank009 and... werent we masons once in a game?
22:27 Olimar12345 That was the only time I ever played with masons
22:27 Olimar12345 but we never claimed
22:27 Olimar12345 you said it was safer that way, or something
22:27 Olimar12345 idr
22:28 fank009 circumstances are different.
22:28 fank009 were different
22:28 fank009 masons claiming in this game is good, in the sense that there is somewhat of an alliance going
22:29 Olimar12345 now that I'm reading it again, birds list of human leans is really quite flimsy
22:29 Olimar12345 the mason claims were the most strong
22:29 Olimar12345 but still
22:29 fank009 ...
22:29 fank009 maybe you have a point.
22:29 fank009 wanna hear my version of that list?
22:30 Olimar12345 sure
22:30 Olimar12345 I guess
22:31 fank009 mael- he has offered several posts that really hurt him as a wolf... i.e. liking the fact that option 9 was handicapped a bit.
22:31 Olimar12345 which posts?
22:32 fank009 normally, I would call people on it, though I doubt, that mael has the capability to actually do that succesfully.
22:32 fank009 Noct had a plan to reveal whether we had a charasmatic human or not...
22:33 fank009 He'd be stupid to tell humans that there's a traitor running around
22:33 Olimar12345 I think I see the posts (mael) but wasn't that during the twilight phase? Wolves weren't even decided until after that I thought
22:33 fank009 There was a wolf team...
22:33 fank009 he was still a human during the twilight phase
22:34 fank009 and there are other posts by him.
22:34 fank009 need to dig through again
22:34 Olimar12345 nm I see mashis initial post
22:34 Olimar12345 fack
22:34 fank009 BDS is saying things that are way too stupid to come from a wolf, so I believe his mason claim
22:34 fank009 and liggy by virtue of being buddies
22:35 Liggy um
22:35 Liggy thanks? <3
22:35 fank009 though, liggy is being really... whats the word
22:35 Liggy going to be 100% honest
22:35 fank009 if it werent for BDS, I would be pushing a lynch to "tempt fate"
22:35 fank009 maybe thats what you want though.
22:35 Liggy making sure there wasn't a mason in the game
22:35 Liggy and claiming mason
22:36 Liggy is something I would do as a wolf
22:36 Liggy 100%
22:38 Olimar12345 wait how do we even know masons are in the game?
22:38 Olimar12345 it isn't said anywhere
22:38 Olimar12345 that I can find
22:40 Olimar12345 that's a pretty strong human lean there, liggy
22:40 Olimar12345 but damn, I didn't even think of that
22:40 Olimar12345 that would be a perfect wolf strategy
22:40 Liggy masons aren't guarenteed to be in this game
22:40 Olimar12345 ^
22:40 fank009 ^
22:41 Liggy also telling you my strategy as a wolf is something I would probably do as a wolf too
22:41 Olimar12345 ^the human lean
22:41 Olimar12345 lol
22:42 Olimar12345 you'd be risking a lot though. Killing one of you would confirm the other for sure.
22:42 fank009 Liggy: Im a human, dont worry, I do this stratergy as a wolf too.
22:42 fank009 arent you just a ... trying to think of the word
22:44 fank009 bubbles was maestro's replacement right?
22:44 Olimar12345 yes
Join us in chat...
A vote! :O
Olimar.
Day 1 has ended. Olimar12345 has been lynched! It is now Night 2. Night 2 ends August 7th, 2014 at 11:59PM EDT.He was a Wolf.
Quote from: Olimar12345's WillYou guys got lucky! Look out for bird though! We seer'd him red!
1. Bird
2. Bubbles
3. maelstrom.
4. Olimar123455. BlackDragonSlayer
6. vermilionvermin7. fank009
8. Funnygurl555
9. Dude
10. davy
11. NocturneofShadow
12. Liggy
Awwwwww yeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaah!
There is a traitor in this game.
Olimar flipped normal wolf, which means he doesn't have a power. There are three wolves, and the wolves select three powers. The only power that doesn't change a normal wolf into a special wolf is the one that adds a Traitor and Charismatic Human to the game.
So... birds clear?
Here's one implication of that:
Between the masons and the BP claim, that should be every special in the game that knows their role.
If you are a special that knows their role, that means that either we (me and BDS) or the BP is lying.
Funnygurl555, Dude, Liggy, BDS and myself should all look a bit more human based on that cardflip. Consequently, my top suspicions are now davy and Bubbles.
And great points Liggy. With a wolf dead, knowledge of the remaining wolves and an alliance going, things are off to an excellent start.
Quote from: Bird on August 06, 2014, 10:11:39 PMI should all look a bit more human based on that cardflip.
Cardflip, what about that will...
Quote from: fank009 on August 06, 2014, 10:39:37 PMCardflip, what about that will...
1: Why would you trust a wolf's will?
2: How would Bird be seered red if he were a human?
3: If he isn't a human, why would the wolves clearly state that they seered him red?
Like BDS said, there's no red humans. So either I'm Olimar's partner or he's lying. I think given the fact that I helped lynched Olimar, the latter is more likely, but it's possible that I'm a wolf and orchestrated all of this just to look more human.
But I don't think that's very likely.
Anyway, this is just a reminder to everyone to update your wills with your thoughts for the following day phase.
I was pretty sure the traitor would be seer'd red...
Yeah, I think the Traitor is red in this game.
Yes, the Traitor is seered Red.
Eh, doesn't matter. In that case, I'm either Olimar's partner, a traitor, or he's lying, and the first two are equally senseless.
Quote from: fank009 on August 06, 2014, 09:08:37 PMSo... birds clear?
I honestly think not. If Olimar hadn't said anything about bird, what would have happened?
Probably nothing. But now that we have a red seering from a wolf (which shouldn't be trusted at all because a wolf would never reveal information) he pretty much warped what we think about bird- whether he's a human or a traitor/wolf.
Seeing as it was olimar, I'm leaning toward the reverse psych on this one.
OK guys, I hate catching people sending messages when it's not my intention, so please make yourself hidden from other users!!!!!!!!
It's for your own good! Special or Wolf!
Quote from: Dude on August 07, 2014, 11:26:20 AMOK guys, I hate catching people sending messages when it's not my intention, so please make yourself hidden from other users!!!!!!!!
It's for your own good! Special or Wolf!
Or private discussion.....
http://forum.ninsheetm.us/index.php?action=who
You can see if someone is sending a PM or what they're doing and I hate catching people sending messages because it's cheap. So if you have to like send a wolfing PM or something, you could get caught really easily!
Also I have no clue what you are trying to say mael...
I'm saying someone could just be PMing another member about an alliance etc, but it might be a little to early in the game for that.
Yes, but I keep catching them and if I was a wolf I would probably wolf them next if they weren't my partner.
But that has nothing to do with it! You should still hide your status when you play twg to avoid shit from happening! It's a good idea!
Unless I'm missing something, I honestly see no benefit to the masons claiming to the thread (especially since Liggy said not to claim to him). All it really does is "clear" those two players and make them the obvious next wolfing target if they get enough humans on their side and are truly masons.
As for Olimar's will, I don't believe he actually seer'd bird but instead was trying to build off of the mason claim (if there are masons in the game, there is also a wolf seer). What I'm curious about is why he picked
Bird of all people, since it would have made more sense to get a quick human kill by targeting an inactive player like myself or Funnygurl that could have stemmed a bandwagon
Quote from: Bird on August 06, 2014, 10:11:39 PMFunnygurl555, Dude, Liggy, BDS and myself should all look a bit more human based on that cardflip. Consequently, my top suspicions are now davy and Bubbles.
Could you explain this a little more? I kinda understand why you and maybe Liggy and BDS would look more human but I have no clue as to the others.
Quote from: Bubbles on August 07, 2014, 12:24:06 PMto get a quick human kill by targeting an inactive player like myself or Funnygurl that could have stemmed a bandwagon
i wont go down without a fite!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anyway, I wasn't completely confident in my vote on Olimar; I just placed it there because I disagreed with what Olimar was doing in the beginning of the phase. I wasn't around much, but it didn't feel like there was a serious push on Olimar by others as well, save for Bird (for that, I'm reading Bird human a bit).
Also, the fact that there's a traitor's a little troublesome, eh..
I looked back at the first thread and saw this
Quote from: Mashi on July 31, 2014, 09:15:47 AM9. Traitor and Charismatic Human
Traitor- A Human role that doesn't know who the Wolves are, but only wins if they do.
Not sure if the wolves know who the traitor is at all, but that would seem pretty pointless since there's out of thread communication and the wolves could just PM the traitor or something to form a larger alliance, so I'm operating under the assumption that the wolves didn't know who the traitor was and vice versa. That should make an interesting dynamic between them. I feel like the traitor would most likely be someone who would not participate heavily in the game and try to lay low until they know who their wolf partners are. It would seem pretty risky to engage with others heavily and risk swaying a lynch onto a wolf partner unknowingly.
As for the will, I don't feel like paying attention to it that much because it's just a bunch of mind games. I agree with Bubbles that mentioning Bird was surprising, though.
*first post in the thread
*reading Bird as human a bit
typing's hard yo
...
Blah blah blah, reverse psychology, any other target sure, I would somewhat consider it.
Olimar wanted a bird lynch, that and the will for me indicates that he had the intention of lynching bird one way or another.
...
You know, olimar could be telling us something else, like wolfs have a painter. But it still suggests to frame bird regardless. You know, im scared that the gunholders gonna shoot bird for fear.
Maybe he just said bird b/c he had the most votes/suspicion at one point and tried to give it substance.
In the chat waiting for people to talk to!
I'd be there if it would actually work on my computer. >:(
Wah.
But it worked last time. :(
I don't care if this isn't game-related at all
MAELSTROM YOU HAVE 555 POSTS
CHERISH THIS MOMENT.
Quote from: Funnygurl555 on August 07, 2014, 04:34:35 PMI don't care if this isn't game-related at all
MAELSTROM YOU HAVE 555 POSTS
CHERISH THIS MOMENT.
just 111 left
Oh no.
*moment ends*
Quote from: fank009 on August 07, 2014, 12:57:56 PMYou know, olimar could be telling us something else, like wolfs have a painter.
I
highly doubt they have a painter (as in, unless one of the specials is lying, they don't), and if they did, I don't know why they'd tell us. :P
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on August 07, 2014, 05:46:26 PMI highly doubt they have a painter (as in, unless one of the specials is lying, they don't), and if they did, I don't know why they'd tell us. :P
Are you dense? Or just not catching my drift?
Quote from: fank009 on August 07, 2014, 06:29:29 PMAre you dense? Or just not catching my drift?
Please explain, because you're being very vague and/or not making much sense by suggesting there is a painter.
From wolf painter description:
"That Player will appear that color to seers and cardflips for the current Night Phase and following Day Phase."
Just thought I'd throw that out there.
yes however but:
[12:03:13 AM] Aaron George: mashi is there any role that can affect cardflips?
[12:03:28 AM] Mashi: No.
[12:03:36 AM] Aaron George: yay!!!
[12:03:39 AM] Mashi: All cardflips are 100% true.
???
Anyways, I just received a Seer claim. As I've already received a BP claim, that means either the seer is lying, the BP is lying, or me and BDS is lying!!!!
However, I highly suspect one of them is the Traitor, based on the results of the last cardflip.
hi i have a chat log with fank and stuff if this is helpful at all
chat thingy!
21:39 fank009 i know you know what your doing
21:40 Funnygurl555 ?
21:40 Funnygurl555 yes i know i know what i'm doing erm
21:40 fank009 its a charade
21:41 Funnygurl555 is my charade not being serious
21:41 fank009 i know that feeling
21:41 Funnygurl555 lmao
21:41 Funnygurl555 ok
21:41 fank009 your playing like my first game at nsm
21:41 Funnygurl555 you played like me???? HYPE
21:42 Funnygurl555 but no really if you think i'm just newbie wolf that's not it
21:42 fank009 ...
21:42 fank009 no
21:42 fank009 the opposite
21:42 Funnygurl555 uh, i'm not special either???
21:43 fank009
21:43 Funnygurl555 i'm town lol when i'm town i yolo through phases and stuff
21:43 Funnygurl555 why?
21:43 Funnygurl555 actually yeah why would you try to find out if i were special or not
21:43 fank009 ...
21:44 fank009 thats not what im saying
21:44 Funnygurl555 ok what are you saying sorry
21:45 fank009 everyone else in the game, apart from you and davy, has given human tells
21:45 Funnygurl555 and
21:46 fank009 do the mTh
21:46 fank009 math
21:46 fank009 2 people nit telling human
21:46 fank009 2 wolves left
21:48 Funnygurl555 erm, you do know this could also be a coincidence right? i don't know dave's roll at all but the fact that i'm not completely sold on people's humanity yet has nothing to do with being a wolf and more to do with the fact that i'm not used to this forum
21:48 fank009 ...
21:48 fank009 could be
21:49 fank009 im pretty accurate in my tells though
21:49 Funnygurl555 alright, i guess
21:52 fank009 unless you can get me to doubt my tells
21:54 Funnygurl555 well you're kinda wrong about me lol, and i'm not even sure of your alignment either so i don't get why i should do that
21:56 fank009 no you dont know my alignment, there are ways to find out though.
21:57 fank009 and why should you cuddle up to me? im rithless and can get people,lynched
21:58 Funnygurl555 oh
21:58 Funnygurl555 oh you're one of those people
21:58 Funnygurl555 welp
21:58 Funnygurl555 mind telling me the ways to figure out your alignment or am i going to have to do some digging myself
21:59 Funnygurl555 i want to say your aggressive playstyle right now is indicative of a human mindset but i'm assuming you're good enough at this game to fake that
22:02 fank009 ^you are somewhat right. I do have certain wolf tendacies when I play as wolf
22:03 fank009 but you have my word that I am a human
22:03 fank009 though word is typically taken with a grain of salt
22:03 Funnygurl555 in twg i'd expect that lol
22:04 fank009 please note, I have 2 current "wolf leans"
22:04 fank009 and thats process of elimination
22:05 Funnygurl555 how'd you cross off bubbles from your potential wolf list?
22:06 fank009 bubbles = maestro's replacment
22:06 fank009 chat with maestro showed he wasnt a wolf.
22:07 Funnygurl555 oh
oh upon rereading that i get what fank meant at the beginning of the log
hehu oh oops <<>>'
Whoops.
Cardflips aren't affected by paintings (not like they would matter, since it's a Role Cardflip anyway). Wolf Painter's description was written by Bird and I neglected to review it properly, so my mistake.
8)
Night 2 has ended. Bird was attacked... but he survived! It is now Day 2. Day 2 ends August 9th, 2014 at 11:59PM EDT.
1. Bird
2. Bubbles
3. maelstrom.
4. Olimar12345
5. BlackDragonSlayer
6. vermilionvermin
7. fank009
8. Funnygurl555
9. Dude
10. davy
11. NocturneofShadow
12. Liggy
rekt
im the bulletproof and someone's gonna get SHOT
Funnygurl555 claimed Seer.
Bird is the bulletproof, me and BDS are masons, and Olimar's cardflip reveals that there is a Charismatic Human in this game. Therefore, she must be lying.
She claimed to have seered Dude green Night 1, fyi.
...
I'll be laughing all the way to the bank
funnygurl
:3
Funnygurl555
welp there goes all my suspicion on bird lol
But should we hold off on the Funnygurl lynch? If there really is a BP then theres also a brutal wolf which Funnygurl has a 50/50 chance of being.
I think it makes more sense for her to be the brutal. Personally, if I was a part of the wolves' fake claim plan I would have the brutal fake claim instead of the actual wolf seer. That way if the claim fell through we would still get a human kill when Funnygurl got lynched.
Quote from: Bubbles on August 07, 2014, 09:13:58 PMwelp there goes all my suspicion on bird lol
But should we hold off on the Funnygurl lynch? If there really is a BP then theres also a brutal wolf which Funnygurl has a 50/50 chance of being.
I think it makes more sense for her to be the brutal. Personally, if I was a part of the wolves' fake claim plan I would have the brutal fake claim instead of the actual wolf seer. That way if the claim fell through we would still get a human kill when Funnygurl got lynched.
you saying we should find the partner first? or we can get bird to shoot her. (why didnt you shoot last night?)
I'm saying that imo theres a higher chance of her being a brutal, and to avoid an extra human dying this phase we should wait until the night phase to shoot her. That is if we can narrow down the last wolf this phase
Quote from: Bubbles on August 07, 2014, 09:20:11 PMI'm saying that imo theres a higher chance of her being a brutal, and to avoid an extra human dying this phase we should wait until the night phase to shoot her. That is if we can narrow down the last wolf this phase
bubbles last wolf
I'd like to hear what funnygurl555 has to say before we lynch her.
erm...
uh
this didn't go according to plan lmfao
Fun first game!... I think???
Oooh you might hold off on killing me if I'm the brutal wolf?
I'm liking where this is headed.
i'm sifting through the forums and omg lol i'm learning so much about people on this forum it's fascinating
this isn't creepy at all
whos your favourite member
I think, Im going to have to reasses my leans, currently I have
Strong Human Leans
Bird: BP/Night shot target, Will target... (what else?)
Liggy/BDS: Masons... Setup.
Semi strong leans
Bubbles: Maestro's chat before he was subbed
Mael: Twilight phase chat.
Noct: Day 1 wanting to draw out the charsmatic human to confirm traitor.
Weak-no leans
Dude: not really a lot from him, but the online stalks are a sign of a human tell
Davy: No real lean, just old feelings from when we were scumbuddies, will see if he contributes anything substantial.
Scum leans
FG: Claimed seer, BP proved.
so, I have 2 people not giving off human tells as of this phase.... Traitors been confirmed though, so Im going to go through the leans and see what other angle I can pick up from them. though FG is the lynch of the day for me.
Quote from: Dude on August 07, 2014, 11:26:20 AMOK guys, I hate catching people sending messages when it's not my intention, so please make yourself hidden from other users!!!!!!!!
It's for your own good! Special or Wolf!
I said this because I caught fg sending a PM just before this
But it was probably to either liggy or bds but check your pm time you two!
We can probably go ahead and lynch funnygurl555 now. I'm just going to hold off on voting just in case she's the brutal. I still want to use my power tomorrow night.
Quote from: Dude on August 08, 2014, 01:48:06 AMI said this because I caught fg sending a PM just before this
figured, i didn't know the hidden thing existed oops >~<
Quote from: Mashi on August 07, 2014, 11:31:23 PMwhos your favourite member
is there any way i can answer this question so people don't kill me
huh
pls
hey guys i might be a wolf BUT DO YOU REALLY WANT TO KILL
THIS I MEAN LOOK AT ME
OH AND THINK OF ALL THE THINGS I COULD GIVE YOU
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Now it seems like she's trying to get herself killed....
Quote from: maelstrom. on August 08, 2014, 07:14:36 AMNow it seems like she's trying to get herself killed....
It's not as much as me trying to get myself killed but resigning to the fate that I will get killed. BP or not, I'd love to live but I know that's not gonna happen.
--
BUT ONTO OTHER MATTERS
So I am indeed a wolf (shocker, eh?), so hey traitor?
Mind claiming to me so we can figure something out with the last wolf buddy??? I'm about to die soon, so please do so the moment you log on. And if you're going to PM me don't make the same mistake I did by not making yourself hidden to other players. Just a heads up!
You probably woul
Quote from: Funnygurl555 on August 08, 2014, 07:58:20 AMAnd if you're going to PM me don't make the same mistake I did by not making yourself hidden to other players. Just a heads up!
Not like you'll actually struggle with this though because you're used to this forum!
*clears throat*
FYI, everyone besides Me/BDS/Bird should claim Traitor to Funnygurl555, and try their hardest to be convincing.
Ooooor we could insta her and call it a day...
Good idea?
Quote from: Dude on August 08, 2014, 09:51:21 AMOoooor we could insta her and call it a day...
Good idea?
Yes.
Funnygirl
Actually, perhaps a better idea would be to have players we find suspicious be the ones who lynch her. That way, we might be able to get another free kill on a wolf, or at least reduce the number of suspicious humans.
So, do I count as suspicious?
I think he mean he just wants us to have BDS Liggy and himself not to vote for her and everyone else to. As no one else is for sure on the human team.
Quote from: Liggy on August 08, 2014, 09:25:53 AMFYI, everyone besides Me/BDS/Bird should claim Traitor to Funnygurl555, and try their hardest to be convincing.
oh
I was actually thinking we could have Bubbles and Davy vote for funnygurl555 and then the rest of us could spead our votes out on everyone else.
Actually, given the existence of a charismatic human, we would need one other person to vote for funnygurl.
And really, thinking about it... I feel like funnygurl is probably not the brutal wolf anyway. We should probably just go ahead and insta her.
Fuck it
funnygurl555
Quote from: Bird on August 08, 2014, 10:42:42 AMAnd really, thinking about it... I feel like funnygurl is probably not the brutal wolf anyway. We should probably just go ahead and insta her.
The only other Wolf is the Wolf Shaman. Would the Wolf Shaman risk their life?
Who knows! Lynch funnygurl anyways.
oh well
funnygurl555
Is that an insta?
I think so.
Ah well, nice meeting all of you! Sorry you had to deal with my annoyingness. Believe it or not that's my playstyle in TWG! (though I guess I'm a pretty silly person in general too)
Inb4 Mashi kills me
Day 2 has ended! Funnygurl555 has been Insta'd! Insta occurred with Dude's vote. Funnygurl555 has taken down Dude with her! It is now Night 3! Night 3 ends August 9th, 2014 at 11:59PM EDT.Funnygurl555 was the Brutal Wolf. Dude was Human.
Quote from: Funnygurl555's Willmashi worst host 2014. also frivolous
8)
Quote from: Dude's Will
1. Bird
2. Bubbles
3. maelstrom.
4. Olimar123455. BlackDragonSlayer
6. vermilionvermin7. fank009
8. Funnygurl5559. Dude10. davy
11. NocturneofShadow
12. Liggy
What kind of will is that? So if we kill the last wolf, we can just wait because the traitor can't do anything?
Wait, Dude killed funnygirl? Than either me, him, fank, or BDS is the charismatic human. BDS claimed Mason, so it isn't him.
Quote from: Mashi on August 08, 2014, 12:04:07 PMFunnygurl555 has been Insta'd!
Yay!
QuoteFunnygurl555 has taken down Dude with her!
No!
who should i murder tonight????
*Tomorrow night
And I'll be gone tomorrow, so don't kill me or anything.
Okay now I kinda want to die just so you all can see my awesome will.
btw half expecting BDS and Liggy to have fooled you all and funnygirl not be a wolf
but sadly not
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on August 08, 2014, 09:28:01 PMOkay now I kinda want to die just so you all can see my awesome will.
btw half expecting BDS and Liggy to have fooled you all and funnygirl not be a wolf
but sadly not
nocturne last wolf
Quote from: Bird on August 08, 2014, 07:03:47 PMwho should i murder tonight????
Psst, bird, listen to the dead
Update will probably be late. Phase still ends at the same time, however.
Night 3 has ended! Bird has been wolfed! It is now Day 3. Day 3 ends August 11th, 2014 at 11:59PM EDT.Bird was One-shot Bulletproof with a Gun.
Quote from: Bird's Willit was nighthawk
1. Bird2. Bubbles
3. maelstrom.
4. Olimar123455. BlackDragonSlayer
6. vermilionvermin7. fank009
8. Funnygurl5559. Dude10. davy
11. NocturneofShadow
12. Liggy
what the hell
Quote from: Bubbles on August 09, 2014, 11:05:07 PMwhat the hell
you were expecting birds shot to go off?
Quote from: BDSbubbles for last wolf
Yes? Considering we're 2/2 in lynchings, we had a pretty good chance of finding the wolf. Even if he shot blindly with no reasoning, there was still a 20% chance the wolf would be hit.
I have a question about the traitor. Since there's only one wolf left, in order to win would the traitor have to survive until the end of the game and count as one of the wolves or would they die and win after the game is over?
As far as win conditions are concerned, Traitors count towards the Humans. Wolves win the game if it becomes literally impossible for Humans to win through some method other than a series of KitBs.
So, we lynch the wolf, we win? But who's the wolf?
Quote from: Mashi on August 10, 2014, 12:34:29 PMAs far as win conditions are concerned, Traitors count towards the Humans. Wolves win the game if it becomes literally impossible for Humans to win through some method other than a series of KitBs.
Ban every player from the forums except a confirmed human.
Wolves can't win, gg.
While I'm still not good enough at this game to explain my reasonings for what I'm thinking, at this point I'm leaning towards fank or maelstrom. Me, Liggy, and BDS will naturally be cleared, and of the 4 left, I think Bubbles is most likely to be human. Davy hasn't made his characteristically long posts, although with this particular game there isn't much reason to.
I know I'm leaving this kinda brief but whatever I'll like try to be in the chat sometime tomorrow
Why you? BDS and Liggy claimed masons, but why would you be cleared?
Quote from: maelstrom. on August 10, 2014, 02:57:09 PMWhy you? BDS and Liggy claimed masons, but why would you be cleared?
Mael, from everybodys point of view, they are human, so they are cleared in their eyes.
Suspicion list time:
davy - Has some minor (and admittedly circumstantial) things against him. The first one I feel like noting, is that Olimar ( a wolf) voted for him fairly early in Day 1, and then after Davy pointed out that he was voted, voted for Funnygurl555 (another wolf). I don't think Olimar would switch his vote from a random human to a wolf partner within the first day of the game. Especially telling, because Olimar voted for Funnygurl before some people (such as Bird!) even knew she was playing, which shows that he was definitely considering his wolf partners as potential targets. Also, with as little offense to Olimar and Yugi as possible, the setup choices for this game were really, really well picked, and I'm not sure if it's something that they would see by themselves.
Nocturne - Seems legitimately confused about everything. I'd say he's probably the most likely to be traitor, as his actions make little sense coming from a human and even less coming from a wolf.
Bubbles - I have seen very little from. The only thing she has going for her is that I'm not sure if Maestro would be disinterested with the game if he was a wolf, but then again I wouldn't put it past Maestro to sign up for a game he didn't want to play.
Fank - Is really an enigma. I do give him enough credit to come up with the role choices, however when he was giving his human leans Day 1, the only wolf on there was Funnygurl555, which was his weakest lean! I figure if he was a wolf, he'd probably put another one higher up!
Maelstrom - Seems somewhat confused as well, but nice enough. These last three are probably all +1/-1 right now.
Oh here's another thing about davy:
His activity really dropped off as the wolves starting doing worse. He hasn't posted since I made that post confirming Funnygurl as a wolf, and I can see a wolf losing their drive to play after humans are 2/2 in lynchings with 3 (now 2) confirmed humans.
Wasn't the point of a safety vote to vote for someone without any votes on them? ??? I might be missing something...
Mael
Considering we know what the setup is... posts like this (http://forum.ninsheetm.us/index.php?topic=6336.msg251224#msg251224) are given a new light
To reiterate:
Quote from: maelstrom. on August 08, 2014, 12:26:56 PMWait, Dude killed funnygirl? Than either me, him, fank, or BDS is the charismatic human. BDS claimed Mason, so it isn't him.
It wasn't dude, so it's either me or fank.
Quote from: maelstrom. on August 10, 2014, 06:25:23 PMTo reiterate:It wasn't dude, so it's either me or fank.
So, it can't be me?
The charismatic human.
Actually, I have no clue what you are talking about....
Quote from: maelstrom. on August 10, 2014, 06:25:23 PMTo reiterate:It wasn't dude, so it's either me or fank.
This is exactly right, and good catch!
When we decide on a lynch, we should vote like this:
Me -> BDS -> Some other person (Bubbles/Davy/Nocturnal) - > Maelstrom -> Everyone else
If there's an insta at Maelstrom, he's the Charismatic. If there's an insta at the vote after him, Fank is the Charismatic. We can confirm a third human this way.
Quote from: Liggy on August 10, 2014, 06:52:29 PMThis is exactly right, and good catch!
When we decide on a lynch, we should vote like this:
Me -> BDS -> Some other person (Bubbles/Davy/Nocturnal) - > Maelstrom -> Everyone else
If there's an insta at Maelstrom, he's the Charismatic. If there's an insta at the vote after him, Fank is the Charismatic. We can confirm a third human this way.
Sounds like a good plan... but who are we lynching?
I support Davy, still.
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on August 10, 2014, 07:06:55 PMSounds like a good plan... but who are we lynching?
Actually I take back what I said earlier about wanting to die. I have NO idea WHAT came over me.
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on August 10, 2014, 08:05:07 PMActually I take back what I said earlier about wanting to die. I have NO idea WHAT came over me.
I see you took suicide counselling ;)
Davy.
I dont like the argumemt agaimst davy, but hey, we have mislynches
So if one more person votes for davy, then either me or NoS votes and we figure out who is the char. human
Quote from: maelstrom. on August 11, 2014, 04:50:11 PMSo if one more person votes for davy, then either me or NoS votes and we figure out who is the char. human
You mean or Fank, right?
If I'm the only one who finds Davy suspicious, then why isn't anyone else providing alternatives?
I just said that because he already has two votes. I don't have a better idea anyway....
Nope forget that last post. I did mean fank.
Quote from: Liggy on August 11, 2014, 05:03:18 PMIf I'm the only one who finds Davy suspicious, then why isn't anyone else providing alternatives?
And I'm not providing alternatives?
And doesnt that question provoke ideas?
Quote from: maelstrom. on August 11, 2014, 04:50:11 PMSo if one more person votes for davy, then either me or NoS votes and we figure out who is the char. human
It's not possible for me to be charismatic, I didn't vote yesterday
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on August 11, 2014, 05:23:18 PMIt's not possible for me to be charismatic, I didn't vote yesterday
Quote from: maelstrom. on August 11, 2014, 05:07:19 PMNope forget that last post. I did mean fank.
In other news, I won't get mael until I'm cleared, so...
BubblesNoct I feel is giving too many tells that he's not a wolf, while still having some competition to the davy train
I really do want to see something from Davy if he's not a wolf though. Seriously, what's up?
Nocturnal I don't think is a wolf, but I do think he is probably the traitor. Especially this post:
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on August 10, 2014, 08:05:07 PMActually I take back what I said earlier about wanting to die. I have NO idea WHAT came over me.
Which sounds like he may have been contacted by a wolf who seered him. Not sure, though!
Quote from: Liggy on August 11, 2014, 06:59:36 PMI really do want to see something from Davy if he's not a wolf though. Seriously, what's up?
Nocturnal I don't think is a wolf, but I do think he is probably the traitor. Especially this post:
Which sounds like he may have been contacted by a wolf who seered him. Not sure, though!
Trust me; I'm not the traitor.
Or I don't think I am anyway
Guys, if you have anything, post it!
Or PM me and BDS, I guess?
Quote[22:33:58 EDT] Nocturen sigh
[22:46:20 EDT] Nocturen I sent a pm to both fank and mael pretending I was the traitor. What should I be watching for in their replies?
[22:51:03 EDT] Liggy not sure
[22:51:19 EDT] Liggy ask them to kill BDS to prove it
[23:01:32 EDT] Nocturen oh good idea
[23:05:36 EDT] Nocturen fank's online but he hasn't sent me a message
[23:13:33 EDT] Nocturen DUDE
[23:13:35 EDT] Nocturen I GOT IT
[23:13:38 EDT] Nocturen IT'S MAELSTROM
[23:14:30 EDT] Liggy ???
[23:14:43 EDT] Nocturen He responded
[23:14:57 EDT] Liggy with what?
[23:15:03 EDT] Nocturen how do I quote the PM into the thread
[23:15:06 EDT] Nocturen he's the last wolf
[23:16:51 EDT] Nocturen I said:
[23:16:52 EDT] Nocturen if you're the wolf then we've still got a chance. Looks like today they'll get davy, so that's a
[23:17:10 EDT] Nocturen free lynch. I mean after davy dies it's either you or me so we'd better come up with something.
[23:17:19 EDT] Nocturen Yes I am the traitor.
[23:17:27 EDT] Nocturen He responded with:
[23:17:49 EDT] Nocturen Sounds good. But I need to suddenly become inactive so they can't know that I'm not the
[23:17:59 EDT] Nocturen charismatic human, and fank can't vote either. So I'll just become inactive now.
Maelstrom.
Maelstrom
mael
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on August 11, 2014, 07:31:53 PMif you're the wolf then we've still got a chance. Looks like today they'll get davy, so that's a free lynch. I mean after davy dies it's either you or me so we'd better come up with something.
Yes I am the traitor.
Quote from: maelstrom. on August 11, 2014, 08:10:42 PMSounds good. But I need to suddenly become inactive so they can't know that I'm not the charismatic human, and fank can't vote either. So I'll just become inactive now. :P
between me and maelstrom
sent a second pm to fank as well
QuoteLiggy ask them to kill BDS to prove it
HEY! :P
maelstrom
MASHI JUST ANSWER IT IS IT AN INSTA.
SERIOUSLY THESE NEXT 7 MINUTES COULD CHANGE THE GAME.
In chat
Apologies for the late update.
Day 3 has ended! maelstrom has been lynched! It is now Night 4. Night 4 ends August 12th, 2014 at 11:59PM EDT.maelstrom was Invisible Charismatic Human.
Quote from: malestrom's WillGuess what? I was a normal person. Who would have guessed? :P I don't know a thing.
1. Bird2. Bubbles
3. maelstrom.4. Olimar123455. BlackDragonSlayer
6. vermilionvermin7. fank009
8. Funnygurl5559. Dude10. davy
11. NocturneofShadow
12. Liggy
whaaaaaaaat
Mael
then why did you pm me back D:
I guess Im not special then
Night 4 has ended! Liggy has been wolfed! It is now Day 4. Day 4 ends August 14th, 2014 at 11:59PM EDT.Liggy was a Mason.
Quote from: Liggy's WillI still suspect Davy to be a wolf and Nocturnal to be the tratior.
Rating on likeliness to be a wolf: Davy > Bubbles > Nocturnal > Fank > BDS
Rating on likeliness to be a traitor: Nocturnal > Bubbles > Davy > Fank > BDS
1. Bird2. Bubbles
3. maelstrom.4. Olimar123455. BlackDragonSlayer
6. vermilionvermin7. fank009
8. Funnygurl5559. Dude10. davy
11. NocturneofShadow
12. LiggyEDIT: I'll remember to remove the [/quote] consistently one day!!!
QuoteRating on likeliness to be a wolf: Davy > Bubbles > Nocturnal > Fank > BDS
Rating on likeliness to be a traitor: Nocturnal > Bubbles > Davy > Fank > BDS
i am the wolf and the traitor muhaha
So... discussion?
I really wish davy would post something. I checked his profile and he has been online in the last 24 hours, so even though he's been inactive its not like he's been offline.
I'm not too suspicious of fank, so that leaves NoS and davy. I'll vote for davy though to hopefully bring him back into the game.
If I got my math right, we have one more day phase if we mislynch today.
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on August 12, 2014, 09:14:25 PMSo... discussion?
If I got my math right, we have one more day phase if we mislynch today.
[/quote]
depends on your definition of "mislynch", A green today will definetly make tomorrow interesting.
I somewhat support liggy, I dont agree with a lot of his reasonings, though I have my own thoughts...
Davy has come been absent for 4 phases now... he must be really underground if mashi considers him active.
Noct only sent his message to me and mael, the charismatic can be a real danger to the wolves, needing to sway their opinion for the mislynch. not having to deal with that extra vote makes things a lot easier to win in the end.
Im going to read over bubbles, see what she has put up, and see how comparable it is to my lean on maestro. see if I can get any developments.
Right after this game started, I started living on my own. I thought I could combine that with playing this TWG, but when it started, I realised I had too little time and energy to focus on TWG. This week, I also have an introduction week at my university, so the time I have to post is now even less. Combined with the fact that two out of three wolves where lynched before night 3 made me feel I wasn't needed that much so I went completely inactive posting-wise so that I could focus on my introduction. However, with the risk of this being the final phase, I've decided to try to become more active.
Nocturne is the lynch we should go for this phase IMO. With his post about not wanting to die and the (maybe faked?) reply from maelstrom. I can't immagine him being a human. Even if he is the traitor, we'll get another phase to lynch the final wolf if we lynch Nocturne this phase.
I'll be in chat this evening from around 8PM to 11PM CET
look who finally decided to show up.
Quote from: davy on August 13, 2014, 12:57:52 AMHowever, with the risk of this being the final phase, I've decided to try to become more active.
maybe you have a point...
Bubbles
I Was Expecting A Lot Of Activity, But It Was Only Fank!!!
I'll be in chat from now on for three, max four, hours.
Quote from: fank009 on August 13, 2014, 02:43:38 AMmaybe you have a point...
Bubbles
I know you said you were going to go back and compare me to your lean on Maestro, but I'd still like to hear your reasonings
Quote from: davy on August 13, 2014, 12:57:52 AMHowever, with the risk of this being the final phase, I've decided to try to become more active.
The only way this could be the final phase is if we lynch the wolf. Otherwise, theres no more "risk" for you to come out of your inactivity than there was any other phase
Quote from: davy on August 13, 2014, 12:57:52 AMNocturne is the lynch we should go for this phase IMO. With his post about not wanting to die and the (maybe faked?) reply from maelstrom. I can't immagine him being a human. Even if he is the traitor, we'll get another phase to lynch the final wolf if we lynch Nocturne this phase.
I considered the reply being faked, but then realized that was too ridiculous. Being the final wolf and pulling a stunt like that (especially on a day phase) is way too risky and I don't think any wolf would have done that. It's true that maelstrom never actually replied to the claim and his will could be taken out of context, but there was always the chance that he
could've replied and blown Nos's secret.
Keeping my vote on davy
Quote from: Bubbles on August 13, 2014, 11:28:35 AMThe only way this could be the final phase is if we lynch the wolf. Otherwise, theres no more "risk" for you to come out of your inactivity than there was any other phase
Currently there's a wolf sham, a traitor and three humans.
If we lynch a human, then there's a wolf, a traitor and two humans left
Overnight a human is wolf'd and if the wolf and traitor aren't together yet (which I doubt) another player is seer'd to find out who the traitor is. Afterwards, there is a wolf, a traitor and a human left.
The next day the human is insta'd by the wolf and the traitor leaving the wolves victorious.
So the only way this isn't going to be the final phase is if we lynch the traitor.
Quote from: Bubbles on August 13, 2014, 11:28:35 AMI considered the reply being faked, but then realized that was too ridiculous. Being the final wolf and pulling a stunt like that (especially on a day phase) is way too risky and I don't think any wolf would have done that. It's true that maelstrom never actually replied to the claim and his will could be taken out of context, but there was always the chance that he could've replied and blown Nos's secret.
Ridiculous? Sure, but wolves do more ridiculous stuff (http://forum.ninsheetm.us/index.php?topic=5892.msg230090#msg230090), especially if it goes bad for their team. I can imagine Nocturne thinking "F*** it, if this works, I win, if this fails I lose." If the strategy seems so ridiculous that nobody thinks you are going to use it, it's a good strategy. Is it likely? No, but it is a possibility (you did realise I used brackets AND a question mark to point out the unlikelyness, right?)
Fact remaines that he posted that reply without (to my knowledge) communicating with liggy about wheter or not maelstrom. contacted liggy/BDS about fake claiming (which is something you should always do when fake claiming), allowing for a pretty easy maelstrom. lynch AND that he made that post about not wanting to die.
Also, why no chat?
Tomorrow is the busiest day of my introduction week, so I don't know if I'll be able to post.
Hrm. Earlier, I was considering lynching Nocturne either way, because of the same reason Davy stated, but I wanted to hear what everybody else would say (nobody else but Davy pointed what I was thinking out). The only way Nocturne isn't the last wolf or the traitor is if Maelstrom, for whatever reason, responded to the reaction test as a wolf in order to catch the traitor, but didn't mention it in his will.
here I was, hoping I'd need to put up an extravagent post, but no.
Nocturne
You guys spoil all my fun :/
(If I'm correct, thats game/set/match?)
rip
NocturneOfShadow has been Insta'd! Wolves Win!
Post Game will be up after Day Phase ends in this other TWG I'm playing or something.