Post your ideas below. Everybody gets one, and after some time passes I'll make it into a poll. Just remember that this doesn't happen until after the current project is completed.
Nominations:
-Minish Cap (NocturneOfShadow)
-Kirby Super Star Ultra (AwesomeYears)
-Mario Kart 8 (mariolegofan)
-Pokémon X & Pokémon Y (SlowPokemon)
-Kirby's Return to Dreamland (Latios212)
-Star Fox 64 (JDMEK5)
Awesome! I guess we vote for ONE? I pick Super Mario 3D World.
Professor Layton vs Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney gets my vote.
Can people who are most likely not going to participate vote :]
Pikmin 2Mother 3Tingle's Rosy RupeelandFire Emblem 8Tingle's Balloon Trip of LoveZelda Oracle SeriesWario Land 3
Quote from: Waddle Bro on September 12, 2014, 07:43:42 AMCan people who are most likely not going to participate vote :]
Really good question. I don't mind if the community gets hyped up about it and votes as a result, but too many non-arranger votes could result in a weak project. For example, if most of our arrangers vote on one game and the non-arrangers outvote them, it probably wont work out to well.
Quote from: Olimar12345 on September 12, 2014, 08:29:59 AMReally good question. I don't mind if the community gets hyped up about it and votes as a result, but too many non-arranger votes could result in a weak project. For example, if most of our arrangers vote on one game and the non-arrangers outvote them, it probably wont work out to well.
Hmm... :/
How about just making a list of games and the arrangers vote personally in a post instead of a poll then?
Example: I vote for "game", then in the OP, "game: 1 vote"
That way we know that only arrangers will vote. We should also limit the number of games to 15 or so, so we don't end up having 50 options and 1 or 2 votes in each one.
Mario Kart Wii/Mario Kart 8
Quote from: DonValentino on September 12, 2014, 08:33:53 AMHow about just making a list of games and the arrangers vote personally in a post instead of a poll then?
Example: I vote for "game", then in the OP, "game: 1 vote"
That way we know that only arrangers will vote.
That is definitely one option.
We could also limit the game nominations to only current arrangers, that way anyone could vote.
Quote from: Olimar12345 on September 12, 2014, 08:37:00 AMThat is definitely one option.
We could also limit the game nominations to only current arrangers, that way anyone could vote.
Nice, even better. So what's the status of the current project?
Quote from: DonValentino on September 12, 2014, 08:33:53 AMWe should also limit the number of games to 15 or so, so we don't end up having 50 options and 1 or 2 votes in each one.
That is another good point.
Another option would be to do a series of polls (2-4 rounds maybe) to narrow it down.
Opinions on the matter, anyone?
I chose
Xenoblade Chronicles over Bravely Default and Umineko no Naku Koro ni.
Fire Emblem 8 is not that bad of an idea, though....
Quote from: Olimar12345 on September 12, 2014, 08:57:31 AMAnother option would be to do a series of polls (2-4 rounds maybe) to narrow it down.
Opinions on the matter, anyone?
It just depends on how many people give suggestions. It needs to be something that a few arrangers commit to doing, so, it can't be something that only a few people have played or like the music.
Quote from: Olimar12345 on September 12, 2014, 08:57:31 AMThat is another good point.
Another option would be to do a series of polls (2-4 rounds maybe) to narrow it down.
Opinions on the matter, anyone?
I do agree with what you guys are talking about that the arrangers should be the ones to choose the final project; after all it's their project! (Kind of why I picked MKWii so that I could use Coconut Mall when it's finished :X ) But at the same time every member should have a say in what project should be done. But what I'm thinking is that maybe we (read: admin) should look through the games on the db and choose 10-20 of them that are in need of repair/enlarging. Then every member can vote on their favorite out of those, then the people planning on joining the project vote on the winners out of those (maybe top 5-10 or so). And veteran status gets 2 votes or something idk lol
Although I'd like it to be Mario Kart Wii so that my arrangement can count (It's a slightly challenging one...), I might join anyway if it's not, just for fun... And for something to do when I'm bored!
Shin (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyNanTAsU3s) Megami (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnORxdWTGiA) Tensei: (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkp-emFOudE) Persona (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg0nVYvN_Fw) 4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztpezeayM0M)
I'm game with anything, so long as there's a song I like though. More people should post soundtrack snippets.
I second Xenoblade, game has gorgeous music.
Some Xenoblade music:
Title Theme
Incredible if you played the game
Spoiler
Spoiler
Spoiler
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And some boss themes that might not arrange well...
Spoiler
Spoiler
.....so.....
are we?
How about for the new SSB4? Not my favorite soundtrack in the world, but it's both popular and good enough to warrant a large group of arrangers.
But.....but.....Xenoblade.......
And there's not to many songs that would make good piano pieces, aside from the new theme and variations, and the Melee v. 2 remix.
I know I'm not here enough to help arrange, but I saw this and thought I'd drop in two cents.
MK Wii & 8 both have stellar soundtracks that we need more pieces from, but I can honestly not think of a better soundtrack to arrange than Xenoblade Chronicles'. It's probably my favorite of any game I've ever played, and is absolutely breathtaking. I can't stop coming back to it, and considering that there's a growing fanbase for it on the site, I don't see any reason why not.
Btw everyone if you own a Wii and have yet to play it, your excuses for failing to do so are VERY limited :P It's incredible.
Quote from: TheZeldaPianist275 on September 14, 2014, 03:16:42 PMBtw everyone if you own a Wii and have yet to play it, your excuses for failing to do so are VERY limited :P It's incredible.
You are so right. And dissenters?
Quote from: TheZeldaPianist275 on September 14, 2014, 03:16:42 PMI know I'm not here enough to help arrange, but I saw this and thought I'd drop in two cents.
MK Wii & 8 both have stellar soundtracks that we need more pieces from, but I can honestly not think of a better soundtrack to arrange than Xenoblade Chronicles'. It's probably my favorite of any game I've ever played, and is absolutely breathtaking. I can't stop coming back to it, and considering that there's a growing fanbase for it on the site, I don't see any reason why not.
Btw everyone if you own a Wii and have yet to play it, your excuses for failing to do so are VERY limited :P It's incredible.
Because I've never heard of it before...
looks sketchy mate
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on September 14, 2014, 04:06:51 PMBecause I've never heard of it before...
looks sketchy mate
How? Here's a trailer. Graphics are MUCH cleaner on the Wii U
Quote from: maelstrom. on September 14, 2014, 04:21:48 PMHow? Here's a trailer. Graphics are MUCH cleaner on the Wii U
probably a virus
And pit0010 said she'd arrange Sator, Phosphorescent Swamp - Night. So, are we going along with this?
Quote from: Olimar12345 on September 12, 2014, 06:18:36 AMafter some time passes I'll make it into a poll.
Quote from: Olimar12345 on September 12, 2014, 06:18:36 AMthis doesn't happen until after the current project is completed.
It's cool if you want to organize something unofficial in the mean time though.
When is the current project completed?
edit: I will soon. I just want to finish Life before I start the project.
You can follow the status of the project here. (http://forum.ninsheetm.us/index.php?topic=6088.0)
Quote from: FireArrow on September 14, 2014, 11:47:13 AMHow about for the new SSB4? Not my favorite soundtrack in the world, but it's both popular and good enough to warrant a large group of arrangers.
Some good points. And personally I'm loving the new menu theme. It sounded so familiar even though I've never heard it before.
Although I would also vote for Xenoblade. I know nothing of the game but the soundtrack won me in 10 minutes flat. The first soundtrack to ever do so to me.
SSB4 is a pretty good idea as well, not going to lie. All of the music so far is fantastic.
I think Smash Is probably the best thing for an Official NSM Arrangement Project. Plus it might lead into the next one, highlighting a series or game that needs more love.
Quote from: JDMEK5 on September 16, 2014, 06:59:41 PMI know nothing of the game but the soundtrack won me in 10 minutes flat. The first soundtrack to ever do so to me.
The same happened to me. I've been listening to a few songs from the soundtrack for years before I ended up getting the game.
Goddammit, am I the only person who doesn't like the xenoblade soundtrack? It's just too neoclassical for me, smh.
Quote from: FireArrow on September 16, 2014, 08:10:44 PMGoddammit, am I the only person who doesn't like the xenoblade soundtrack? It's just too neoclassical for me, smh.
Any better ideas?
Quote from: maelstrom. on September 17, 2014, 05:06:55 AMAny better ideas?
Pokemon DPP (or smb4) :3
I mean, Xenoblade is a perfectly fine options and the soundtrack is big enough for everyone to find something, I'm just being a drama queen over genre.
Quote from: FireArrow on September 17, 2014, 08:45:24 AMPokemon DPP (or smb4) :3
I mean, Xenoblade is a perfectly fine options and the soundtrack is big enough for everyone to find something, I'm just being a drama queen over genre.
Would you help? There's a lot of styles, imo
Tbh I probably won't contribute much if at all if we do Xenoblade, but then again I'm not contributing to the current project either so idk if it's really a big deal. As long as there are at least five or so arrangers working actively to do the project it'll be fine.
So, we should have a poll of those who will arrange. Smash bros., or Xenoblade?
Quote from: maelstrom. on September 17, 2014, 10:23:55 AMSo, we should have a poll of those who will arrange. Smash bros., or Xenoblade?
Or, you know, the other games that were nominated that you're ignoring?
How about we list all of the games, and the question is "I would help arrange for" and you can select as many choices as you would help out on the project with should that game be chosen. That way we could take the most popular choice.
Quote from: Yugi on September 17, 2014, 02:25:18 PMOr, you know, the other games that were nominated that you're ignoring?
He's got a point
We aren't deciding by what you say maelstrom...
Quote from: SlowPokemon on September 17, 2014, 02:31:29 PMHow about we list all of the games, and the question is "I would help arrange for" and you can select as many choices as you would help out on the project with should that game be chosen. That way we could take the most popular choice.
I'm not sure if this actually made any coherent sense, but my suggestion boils down to the poll looking like this:
I would arrange for
[]Xenoblade Chronicles
[]Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS
etc., with the [] being checkboxes rather than bullets to select.
True, but I know Olimar likes Super Mario 3D World.
Quote from: mariolegofan on September 17, 2014, 02:39:23 PMHe's got a point
We aren't deciding by what you say maelstrom...
I didn't count the others because no one had said anything else about them. Sorry that I forgot about them. :P
Quote from: mariolegofan on September 17, 2014, 03:37:04 PMTrue, but I know Olimar likes Super Mario 3D World.
But he hasn't posted, so how would I know?
Anyway, this is the perfect site for the poll:
http://strawpoll.me/
You can set up any poll easily, only vote once, and do the check thing that Slow suggested.
I'd like MKWii or MK8--I'd work on those for sure, but it doesn't seem too likely. I think SSB4 would be good, and since it seems like it's between that Xenoblade, I guess that I'll favor SSB4 over that if it comes down to those two.
Quote from: mastersuperfan on September 17, 2014, 04:56:27 PMI'd like MKWii or MK8--I'd work on those for sure, but it doesn't seem too likely. I think SSB4 would be good, and since it seems like it's between that Xenoblade, I guess that I'll favor SSB4 over that if it comes down to those two.
Will you arrange? We are mainly focusing on the opinions of those who will arrange, but your non-arranging opinion is welcome.Actually read your post. :P
I'd probably do like on song if we did Xenoblade. Anyways, listen to slow, he's hit the nail on the head.
(And I'd also like to nominate DPP)
How about we do a combination of voting choices? We have a poll for your top pic and a poll for each one you'd help arrange for. That makes it easier than everyone listing their choices in order.
Or we could just have everyone list their choices in order..... :P
Anyway, for nominations, we have:
Pokemon: Diamond/Pearl/Platinum
Xenoblade Chronicles
Super Smash Bros. 4
Super Mario 3D World
Professor Layton vs Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
Wario Land 3
Mario Kart Wii/Mario Kart 8
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4
(Bolded titles have been seconded)
If anyone besides me and Yugi want to post sample tracks, that'd be great. I can be convinced to arrange just about anything if it sounds good enough. :P
I would contribute towards the project (arranger-wise) if we did pokemon dpp, smash4, or any of the mario karts. The others seem meh to me. sm3dw has a kickin' soundtrack, but I'm not interested in arranging it for the piano.
Quote from: Olimar12345 on September 17, 2014, 06:12:58 PMsm3dw has a kickin' soundtrack, but I'm not interested in arranging it for the piano.
Yeah. It sounds good, but it wouldn't translate well to the piano.
And no Xenoblade? :(
Quote from: maelstrom. on September 17, 2014, 05:55:47 PMIf anyone besides me and Yugi want to post sample tracks, that'd be great. I can be convinced to arrange just about anything if it sounds good enough. :P
I'll go ahead and post a few from the one I nominated, and a few from the other nominations I like.
Professor Layton vs Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney(I'll have official localized titles as soon as I unlock the music gallery of the game)
Opening Theme (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdgsNe_e4gA)
From the Professor Layton side
Puzzles 8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U8ltchibyQ)
Labyrinthia (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FozQL-LwI_Y)
The Buried Ruins (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EOB0hvPkP8)
From the Ace Attorney side
Zacharias Barnham ~ Labyrinthia Knight (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMJRHdtgIHE)
Mob Cross-Examination ~ Allegro (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iT6V6s9A0Nc)
Pursuit ~ Casting Magic (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ew8Jsgo5m5w)
-- I would totally support this project as all of the music has this very awesome sense of jazz
Title (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RepC6HhnQgU)
Hisstocrat (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdXgHUvpAuY)
World Bowser (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjkGGMxyxiA)
Also all of the music from Pokemon Diamond and Pearl is basically excellent so I'm in favor of that one too. SSB for Nintendo 3DS seems a little iffy to me, but we'll see. Persona 4 has an excellent soundtrack as well and I'd contribute but I don't think that one has enough fans here to really have a shot. Just throwing my two cents in. Xenoblade I might be able to work with but I try my best never to listen to game music before I play the game so that sort of goes against my principles. Mario Kart 8 also has an incredible soundtrack, I'd be down for that.
Wow. I would definitely help with a Laton vs. Ace Attorney.
Mario Kart Wii will probably be a bit disappointing as a project seeing as we have a fair few of the tunes on site already. Mario Kart 8 would be better if people want to do a Mario Kart.
Quote from: maelstrom. on September 17, 2014, 06:18:26 PMAnd no Xenoblade? :(
Haven't played it and don't have the time to.
Quote from: Olimar12345 on September 17, 2014, 07:32:02 PMHaven't played it and don't have the time to.
This is one of the few games with a soundtrack that can be enjoyed without playing the game.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on September 17, 2014, 06:21:12 PMSuper Mario 3D World -- I would totally support this project as all of the music has this very awesome sense of jazz
Title (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RepC6HhnQgU)
Hisstocrat (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdXgHUvpAuY)
World Bowser (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjkGGMxyxiA)
Yo, that's awesome. I'd totally go for this one too.
I feel kinda stupid posting DPP music (everyone knows it) but wynaut:
DPP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc0At5MXUoM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc0At5MXUoM)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6UK4zvKKDA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6UK4zvKKDA)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxF98U4M1JE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxF98U4M1JE)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BULBrQJHCsc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BULBrQJHCsc)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8Msle-NKJg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8Msle-NKJg)
Not gonna even bother with SSB4.
No one has shown interest in Wario Land 3 and Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4 since the first page. Is anyone still interested in arranging these and getting them on the poll?
I mentioned Persona 4 in my post, I would love for that to be the project.
What's the hurry? It's great that you love Xenoblade and want to make an arrangement project out of it, but let other people share their suggestions too.
I, for one, would like Wario Land 3, because it doesn't have hard songs, it would be quick and easy to do since we already have some songs and its soundtrack is not that big. It's also a popular game with relatively well-known tunes.
Most of the APs end up being abandoned or with just 1 or 2 arrangers working on it (eventually abandoned anyway), so you have to consider that too. A big and relatively difficult-to-arrange soundtrack like Xenoblade would require a pretty decent amount of committed arrangers, and think that these days people are starting their studies/jobs so they won't have much free time.
Quote from: maelstrom. on September 17, 2014, 08:05:06 PMThis is one of the few games with a soundtrack that can be enjoyed without playing the game.
Maybe, but I'm generally more motivated if I have payed the game.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on September 18, 2014, 07:50:40 AMI mentioned Persona 4 in my post, I would love for that to be the project.
Missed that, thanks.
Wow, missed Don's post with the page turn. He hit the nail on the head.
Yeah, like I enjoy Xenoblade's music a lot, but we have to consider the personal tastes/opinions of the other arrangers here, and what they'd be more motivated to do. It'd be pointless to go "Let's arrange Xenoblade!" and have only one or two people who enjoy it, and having others feel obligated to do it.
A good arrangement project needs to have full support by everyone, or else it won't be successful or enjoyable.
Uh, I realized that too. That's why I made an effort to include all the suggestions in a list, ask for soundtrack samples, and ask if anyone else had interest in the soundtracks that hadn't been mentioned since the first page.
Don, while your nomination fits the requirements, it won't matter how easy to arrange or short it is, if no one else has shown interest. I do admit that Xenoblade may have a long soundtrack, but Nebbles, JDMEK5, and I have showed interest, and Pit0010 and Firearrow said they could do a song or two. So it's not like nobody wants to do it, but it's not everybody.
Quote from: Nebbles on September 18, 2014, 10:49:09 AMIt'd be pointless to go "Let's arrange Xenoblade!" and have only one or two people who enjoy it, and having others feel obligated to do it.
A good arrangement project needs to have full support by everyone, or else it won't be successful or enjoyable.
Which is why I have been saying a poll would be perfect, and in the style Slow suggested. That way, we can see what has the most support and go from there. Remember, I'm not just saying, "lets go and do xenoblade now" anymore.
Quote from: maelstrom. on September 18, 2014, 12:34:48 PMUh, I realized that too. That's why I made an effort to include all the suggestions in a list, ask for soundtrack samples, and ask if anyone else had interest in the soundtracks that hadn't been mentioned since the first page.
Don, while your nomination fits the requirements, it won't matter how easy to arrange or short it is, if no one else has shown interest. I do admit that Xenoblade may have a long soundtrack, but Nebbles, JDMEK5, and I have showed interest, and Pit0010 and Firearrow said they could do a song or two. So it's not like nobody wants to do it, but it's not everybody.
But I have shown interest in Wario Land, and Yugi in Persona 4, haven't we? Not because nobody has seconded our suggestions makes them less important than yours. I'm not saying WL3 will outvote every other option or that Xenoblade is a bad choice either, I'm just saying that you should wait until people consider all the suggested options.
And that will only happen when the polls become official, not when you say "No one has shown interest in (...) Is anyone still interested in (...) getting them on the poll?".
Quote from: DonValentino on September 18, 2014, 01:20:49 PMI'm not saying WL3 will outvote every other option or that Xenoblade is a bad choice either, I'm just saying that you should wait until people consider all the suggested options.
I meant besides you. :P (not to offend you in any way) But could you post a few sample songs, so it will make it easier for people to decide? So far, Wario Land, Smash, and MK8 are the only ones without sample tracks. I'll get a few from smash bros and MK8.
MK8
Mario Kart Stadium (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT0xjQpYw7I&list=PL2XjmdkuVL-04v0wkzgB5vxpyI1Rcv_Dw&index=4)
Twisted Mansion (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1OzmnP5Sqs&list=PL2XjmdkuVL-04v0wkzgB5vxpyI1Rcv_Dw&index=10)
Rainbow Road (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksDFjM_5r_s&list=PL2XjmdkuVL-04v0wkzgB5vxpyI1Rcv_Dw&index=19)
Piranha Plant Slide (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4wHtOtapLA&index=33&list=PL2XjmdkuVL-04v0wkzgB5vxpyI1Rcv_Dw)
Super Smash Bros. 3DS (Personally, I find this soundtrack weak. The Wii U one will be MUCH better)
Try, Try Again
Menu (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ylE-XynFSE&index=1&list=PLz5gUls4mkX-RAT5kisCujb-R_Zw4In3B)
Final Destination (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jjQ0Ttn05E&index=5&list=PLz5gUls4mkX-RAT5kisCujb-R_Zw4In3B)
Menu (Melee) Ver. 2 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kP8V7NwOiRs&index=6&list=PLz5gUls4mkX-RAT5kisCujb-R_Zw4In3B)
Sparkman Stage (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIGi9VCF5Lc&index=73&list=PLz5gUls4mkX-RAT5kisCujb-R_Zw4In3B) (arranged by ACE :P)
There's just not enough remixed tracks that sound different enough to warrant another arrangement. And there are multiple songs taken straight from the original game that don't have arrangements on the site, including a few Xenoblade Chronicles ones... :P
I actually forgot about Wario Land 3. I'd totes be up for something like that!
Pokemon: Diamond/Pearl/Platinum (Don't we already have the soundtrack on the site anyway?)
Xenoblade Chronicles
Super Smash Bros. 4
Super Mario 3D World
Professor Layton vs Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
Wario Land 3
Mario Kart Wii/Mario Kart 8
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4
Bolded stuff would be stuff I'd be interested in arranging, although I haven't bothered to look at the SM3DW or Xenoblade stuff yet.
Pokemon: Diamond/Pearl/Platinum
Xenoblade Chronicles
Super Smash Bros. 4
Super Mario 3D World
Professor Layton vs Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
Wario Land 3
Mario Kart Wii/Mario Kart 8
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4
Bolded stuff would be stuff I'd be interested in arranging.
Quote from: Yugi on September 18, 2014, 03:55:07 PMBolded stuff would be stuff I'd be interested in arranging, although I haven't bothered to look at the SM3DW or Xenoblade stuff yet.
Please do. There's no way to tell if you'll hate or love something until you listen to it. :P
Number 1 Choice for the next project:
Xenoblade Chronicles (obviously)
I'd arrange a lot for:
Super Smash Bros. 4Professor Layton vs Phoenix Wright: Ace AttorneyI'd arrange one or two songs for
Mario Kart 8
Wario Land 3
And I still think the Smash project should wait until the Wii U soundtrack comes out. There's just not enough good songs from it right now.
Quote from: maelstrom. on September 18, 2014, 01:50:40 PMThere's just not enough remixed tracks that sound different enough to warrant another arrangement.
This.
That's mainly what I'm worried about if we did SSB4. The soundtrack is amazing, no lie, and I was completely astounded when I just found it online. However, there are quite a few themes that seem like they've been completely unchanged, such as MK7 Rainbow Road and Id (Purpose). Either way, I think we could make MK8 or SSB4 work.
To be honest, if it ends up being Xenoblade, I probably won't really work on it. :/
There are quite a few new arrangements and medlies, at least, such as the excellent Rainbow Road medley and whatnot. SSB4 is doable, I think.
I think we should only start a project that doesn't have many sheets already on the site.
Xenoblade has one, and Smash 4 has none. I wouldn't mind doing Smash if we do unremixed songs as well, like ID purpose.
If we do a game, we're only doing the music that's introduced in that game.
Remixes only belong in the game they're featured in anyway, so any pieces featured in any of the Smash games that are unaltered from their original would be left for their proper game.
Of course I'm not likely to participate in whatever you guys decide, so my thoughts on the matter are rather moot.
Quote from: maelstrom. on September 18, 2014, 01:37:50 PMI meant besides you. :P (not to offend you in any way) But could you post a few sample songs, so it will make it easier for people to decide? So far, Wario Land, Smash, and MK8 are the only ones without sample tracks. I'll get a few from smash bros and MK8.
Of course, here are some:
Out Of The Woods (Day) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJzbFrym7ak)
Desert Ruins (http://youtu.be/A2-GfVE0Zw8?list=PLBDD911545577AF4B)
Big Bridge (http://youtu.be/p6GF4xGmbPk?list=PLBDD911545577AF4B)
Snowman Wario (http://youtu.be/BWjgZpXXYfQ?list=PLBDD911545577AF4B)
World Map (Day) (http://youtu.be/deSCLKmi5dc?list=PLBDD911545577AF4B)
Perfect! (http://youtu.be/8rSOZoT0eBg?list=PLBDD911545577AF4B)
Credits (http://youtu.be/o8NM8iEigjg?list=PLBDD911545577AF4B)
They're nice and accessible tunes that would sound really good in piano imo
And here are some Smash (no originals, only remixes) and MK8 samples, now that I'm at it:
Hammer Bros. (Super Mario Bros. 3) (http://youtu.be/ACAJOab2bcQ?list=PL0YN3mEp0MJPH9AsLfRf0LlYkdqB7WprK)
Magicant (http://youtu.be/w3sgv9b8eyU?list=PL0YN3mEp0MJPH9AsLfRf0LlYkdqB7WprK)
N's Castle (http://youtu.be/0Aks_p_KOyc?list=PL0YN3mEp0MJPH9AsLfRf0LlYkdqB7WprK)
Paper Mario Medley (http://youtu.be/BiV7KftCNaA?list=PL0YN3mEp0MJPH9AsLfRf0LlYkdqB7WprK)
Gerudo Valley (http://youtu.be/MwLIM1Ys6xY?list=PL0YN3mEp0MJPH9AsLfRf0LlYkdqB7WprK)
Main Theme (http://youtu.be/QAApewkQpPU?list=PL0YN3mEp0MJPQM5XLQTF4kMTFEXq9-bbc)
Toad Harbor (http://youtu.be/sHoX_4Bq5Yc?list=PL0YN3mEp0MJPQM5XLQTF4kMTFEXq9-bbc)
Sunshine Airport (http://youtu.be/Bx6R7tYjku8?list=PL0YN3mEp0MJPQM5XLQTF4kMTFEXq9-bbc)
Dolphin Shoals (http://youtu.be/gMejGSLU29M?list=PL0YN3mEp0MJPQM5XLQTF4kMTFEXq9-bbc)
Cloudtop Cruise (http://youtu.be/y3zQuLekuoA?list=PL0YN3mEp0MJPQM5XLQTF4kMTFEXq9-bbc)
Quote from: Olimar12345 on September 18, 2014, 03:51:51 PMI actually forgot about Wario Land 3. I'd totes be up for something like that!
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pic4ever.com%2Fimages%2FJust_Cuz_13.gif&hash=9f37c3cd55ae00c9e9865ee88642ef2d2fff6a50)
If we do SSB4, I want to do dat epic Rainbow Road medley.
I say mario kart 8
There is at least 3 I wanna do
So, a summary of thoughts, nominations, and samples:
Nominations:
Spoiler
Super Mario 3D World (Mariolegofan)
Professor Layton vs Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (SlowPokemon)
Wario Land 3 (DonValentino)
Mario Kart Wii/Mario Kart 8 (NocturneOfShadow)
Xenoblade Chronicles (Maelstrom)
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4 (Yugi)
Super Smash Bros. 4 (FireArrow and others)
Pokemon Diamond/Pearl/Platinum (FireArrow again)
Sound Samples:
Persona 4
Xenoblade Chronicles
Professor Layton vs Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
Quote from: SlowPokemon on September 17, 2014, 06:21:12 PMProfessor Layton vs Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
(I'll have official localized titles as soon as I unlock the music gallery of the game)
Opening Theme (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdgsNe_e4gA)
Puzzles 8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U8ltchibyQ)
Labyrinthia (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FozQL-LwI_Y)
The Buried Ruins (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EOB0hvPkP8)
Zacharias Barnham ~ Labyrinthia Knight (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMJRHdtgIHE)
Mob Cross-Examination ~ Allegro (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iT6V6s9A0Nc)
Pursuit ~ Casting Magic (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ew8Jsgo5m5w)
Super Mario 3D World
Super Mario 3D World
Title (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RepC6HhnQgU)
Hisstocrat (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdXgHUvpAuY)
World Bowser (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjkGGMxyxiA)
Mario Kart 8
Mario Kart Stadium (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT0xjQpYw7I&list=PL2XjmdkuVL-04v0wkzgB5vxpyI1Rcv_Dw&index=4)
Twisted Mansion (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1OzmnP5Sqs&list=PL2XjmdkuVL-04v0wkzgB5vxpyI1Rcv_Dw&index=10)
Rainbow Road (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksDFjM_5r_s&list=PL2XjmdkuVL-04v0wkzgB5vxpyI1Rcv_Dw&index=19)
Piranha Plant Slide (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4wHtOtapLA&index=33&list=PL2XjmdkuVL-04v0wkzgB5vxpyI1Rcv_Dw)
Main Theme (http://youtu.be/QAApewkQpPU?list=PL0YN3mEp0MJPQM5XLQTF4kMTFEXq9-bbc)
Toad Harbor (http://youtu.be/sHoX_4Bq5Yc?list=PL0YN3mEp0MJPQM5XLQTF4kMTFEXq9-bbc)
Sunshine Airport (http://youtu.be/Bx6R7tYjku8?list=PL0YN3mEp0MJPQM5XLQTF4kMTFEXq9-bbc)
Cloudtop Cruise (http://youtu.be/y3zQuLekuoA?list=PL0YN3mEp0MJPQM5XLQTF4kMTFEXq9-bbc)
Super Smash Bros. 4
Try, Try Again
Menu (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ylE-XynFSE&index=1&list=PLz5gUls4mkX-RAT5kisCujb-R_Zw4In3B)
Final Destination (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jjQ0Ttn05E&index=5&list=PLz5gUls4mkX-RAT5kisCujb-R_Zw4In3B)
Menu (Melee) Ver. 2 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kP8V7NwOiRs&index=6&list=PLz5gUls4mkX-RAT5kisCujb-R_Zw4In3B)
Sparkman Stage (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIGi9VCF5Lc&index=73&list=PLz5gUls4mkX-RAT5kisCujb-R_Zw4In3B) (arranged by ACE :P)Hammer Bros. (Super Mario Bros. 3) (http://youtu.be/ACAJOab2bcQ?list=PL0YN3mEp0MJPH9AsLfRf0LlYkdqB7WprK)
Magicant (http://youtu.be/w3sgv9b8eyU?list=PL0YN3mEp0MJPH9AsLfRf0LlYkdqB7WprK)
N's Castle (http://youtu.be/0Aks_p_KOyc?list=PL0YN3mEp0MJPH9AsLfRf0LlYkdqB7WprK)
Paper Mario Medley (http://youtu.be/BiV7KftCNaA?list=PL0YN3mEp0MJPH9AsLfRf0LlYkdqB7WprK)
Gerudo Valley (http://youtu.be/MwLIM1Ys6xY?list=PL0YN3mEp0MJPH9AsLfRf0LlYkdqB7WprK)
Wario Land 3
Out Of The Woods (Day) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJzbFrym7ak)
Desert Ruins (http://youtu.be/A2-GfVE0Zw8?list=PLBDD911545577AF4B)
Big Bridge (http://youtu.be/p6GF4xGmbPk?list=PLBDD911545577AF4B)
Snowman Wario (http://youtu.be/BWjgZpXXYfQ?list=PLBDD911545577AF4B)
World Map (Day) (http://youtu.be/deSCLKmi5dc?list=PLBDD911545577AF4B)
Perfect! (http://youtu.be/8rSOZoT0eBg?list=PLBDD911545577AF4B)
Credits (http://youtu.be/o8NM8iEigjg?list=PLBDD911545577AF4B)
Pokemon Diamond/Pearl/Platinum
Quote from: FireArrow on September 17, 2014, 11:01:18 PMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc0At5MXUoM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc0At5MXUoM)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6UK4zvKKDA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6UK4zvKKDA)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxF98U4M1JE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxF98U4M1JE)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BULBrQJHCsc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BULBrQJHCsc)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8Msle-NKJg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8Msle-NKJg)
I'm not even going to bother with what people have said they'd arrange yet, but I'd recommend that people post their final opinions like MLF, Yugi and I did. And I still think there's not enough smash songs until the Wii U version comes out. Diamond /Pearl/Platinum already has a decent amount of songs on the site, while the rest have none, or just one.
What I'm butting in because all of Yugi's Persona 4 examples suck.
This is the single greatest track of the entire game:
Aria of the Soul
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxcjF_TU_no
And these are two others that I think are excellent:
Glimpse of a Memory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV1o6tbZLZk
Corridor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH3CYAcjnjc
Worth noting I've already arranged the latter though.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on September 20, 2014, 07:04:13 PMWhat I'm butting in because all of Yugi's Persona 4 examples suck.
This is the single greatest track of the entire game:
Aria of the Soul
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxcjF_TU_no
And these are two others that I think are excellent:
Glimpse of a Memory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV1o6tbZLZk
Corridor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH3CYAcjnjc
Worth noting I've already arranged the latter though.
> Heaven
> I'll face myself
> Suck
OK, so I might arrange a song or two if this gets chosen. And maybe even if it doesn't.
Guise, lets just hold off until Olimar makes the poll, kay?
On top of that, the current project still has to be finished, so...
Quote from: FireArrow on September 20, 2014, 09:52:53 PMGuise, lets just hold off until Olimar makes the poll, kay?
Quote from: DonValentino on September 21, 2014, 02:53:50 AMOn top of that, the current project still has to be finished, so...
Agreed
Wait if we were doing a pokemon game wouldn't it make more sense to do ruby/sapphire?
And yeah we should probably not get ahead of ourselves lol
So, what can we do to help the current project finish faster?
Well, for one, these still haven't been done yet.
Spoiler
Quote from: mariolegofan on January 17, 2014, 11:31:02 AMSongs to be Arranged:
A Kingdom in Chaos (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkoQYT86Dy4)
Bowser's Rage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmieSS7znCE)
Go! Mario! Go! (Phase One) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzGgYdhqQDE)
Happy Sun (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lN5vG1fM5IU)
Hot Times in Mt. LavaLava (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ylr07jNMG6s)
Koopa Bros. Fortress (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ktLP591g04)
Koopa Bros. Tricks (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhiNB7nmmGk)
Koopa Bros. Fortress (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ktLP591g04)
Petunia under Attack! (Monty Mole Attack!) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWvq_I6Ht3c)
Princess Peach is Saved! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWBnoRv3jp4)
Victory Parade (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMp2dej8zz8)
Maelstrom, I'm going to say this as nicely as possible because I really appreciate your enthusiasm.
Calm down. We've got a while before the next arrangement project is going to start so just cool it a little bit.
Quote from: Olimar12345 on September 22, 2014, 10:47:11 AMWell, for one, these still haven't been done yet.
Spoiler
Do they all have to be done? Cause I don't think I'm doing more since I did like most of them.
You could do one or some Olimar :)
Mr. Taskmaster over here.
Quote from: mariolegofan on September 23, 2014, 01:15:31 PMDo they all have to be done? Cause I don't think I'm doing more since I did like most of them.
You could do one or some Olimar :)
It would be nice if they were done though. And no, I am not doing any more.
Is this still a thing?
Also, PL vs. AA might work better than Xenoblade.
Yes, this is still a thing. It just doesn't go into effect until after the current one is done.
Does that mean the rest of the songs have to be arranged? 'Cause that's not happening.
If someone would give feedback......
I do know things are kind of crazy now for most people....
Why don't you help arrange some songs? You keep posting here, and you'll keep getting the same answer.
Quote from: FireArrow on November 21, 2014, 03:00:12 PMWhy don't you help arrange some songs? You keep posting here, and you'll keep getting the same answer.
Because a lousy arrangement I put little to no effort into is worse than no arrangement at all.
Seriously.
I might try something if I was more familiar with PM because I've pretty much secured A's in all my classes, but I know almost nothing about the games and haven't played them before.
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on November 21, 2014, 05:54:36 PMI might try something if I was more familiar with PM because I've pretty much secured A's in all my classes, but I know almost nothing about the games and haven't played them before.
I played them and I literally only remembered one song when I was done. I already arranged it. Even mlf won't arrange them.
They don't have to be done for the project to be wrapped up.
Quote from: maelstrom. on November 21, 2014, 07:04:55 PMthe last 5-6 songs
I'd do them....but I already did oh....14. And you did 1.
Quote from: mariolegofan on November 21, 2014, 08:48:53 PMI'd do them....but I already did oh....14. And you did 1.
Yeah, you did great on them! Really pulled more than your weight!
Quote from: Deku Trombonist on November 21, 2014, 07:08:42 PMThey don't have to be done for the project to be wrapped up.
True, so just be patient while Deku is fixing them up :)
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on November 21, 2014, 08:49:51 PMYeah, you did great on them! Really pulled more than your weight!
I guess so....but they aren't my best ones...
mario kart wii!
Nominations:
Super Mario 3D World (Mariolegofan)
Professor Layton vs Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (SlowPokemon)
Wario Land 3 (DonValentino)
Mario Kart Wii/Mario Kart 8 (NocturneOfShadow)
Xenoblade Chronicles (Maelstrom)
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4 (Yugi)
Super Smash Bros. 4 (FireArrow and others)
Pokemon Diamond/Pearl/Platinum (FireArrow again)
MKWii (videogaminglegodude)
For one to be chosen, the current project needs to be finished and enough people need to commit to a certain new project.
So, I can't keep track, what is the official status on the current project? Completing arrangements, sheet checking, arranger modification, getting them queued?
In limbo.
Until someone finally realizes that no one is going to arrange the last few sheets.
Am I mistaken in thinking an updater is sponsoring the current one? Someone to oversee its completion and updating status?
Quote from: MaestroUGC on November 24, 2014, 04:28:10 PMAm I mistaken in thinking an updater is sponsoring the current one? Someone to oversee its completion and updating status?
I think Deku and Olimar might be, but they won't be around much until finals are over.
I think that only arrangers should be allowed to request games. We're the ones who are arranging the songs, and it's less likely that the project will get done if a game that none of the arrangers posted.
I guess that if we put this into a voting stage, we can make arrangers have double votes or something.
^Yep. It would be great to get the community involved, but the people arranging should be the ones choosing the project.
vgld did say he was going to do a few songs whether we do MKWii or not. If he follows through with it, well see....
Olimar said we could have our own little arrangement projects, but they wouldn't be official or get an update.
Quote from: maelstrom. on November 24, 2014, 05:45:22 PM^Yep. It would be great to get the community involved, but the people arranging should be the ones choosing the project.
vgld did say he was going to do a few songs whether we do MKWii or not. If he follows through with it, well see....
do I do the MKWii thing then, or do I wait, or what?
Quote from: videogaminglegodude on November 25, 2014, 01:57:23 PMdo I do the MKWii thing then, or do I wait, or what?
You can :) but I wont garentee anyone will help...
You won't have as high a chance for finding arrangers if it's not official, but, personally, I'm doubtful of an official MKWii project happening.
Remember, if you are creating an unofficial project, it goes in the personal arrangements thread, and it needs "Unofficial" in the title.
Quote from: maelstrom. on November 25, 2014, 04:32:26 PMYou won't have as high a chance for finding arrangers if it's not official, but, personally, I'm doubtful of an official MKWii project happening.
Remember, if you are creating an unofficial project, it goes in the personal arrangements thread, and it needs "Unofficial" in the title.
It doesn't NEED unofficial in the title. If it's an official one it will probably be pinned. And if it's in the personal arrangement thread, it is unofficial. That's what I did with TTYD.
Quote from: mariolegofan on November 21, 2014, 08:48:53 PMI'd do them....but I already did oh....14. And you did 1.
Jeeeez, why the sass
He wasn't even remotely insulting you, his point was that even you, who love arranging PM music, aren't drawn to do these last ones, for the same reasons nobody else has done them (mainly the fact that they won't work super well for piano)
Quote from: FierceDeity on November 25, 2014, 10:02:14 PMJeeeez, why the sass
He wasn't even remotely insulting you, his point was that even you, who love arranging PM music, aren't drawn to do these last ones, for the same reasons nobody else has done them (mainly the fact that they won't work super well for piano)
Haha....just said that because he really wants to start a new one and is acting like its my/everyone else's fault when it's not done.....just stating the obvious :)
Not trying to sass :)
And Deku already said they don't have to be done for it to be sent to the main site. He said he's gonna be busy till the holidays. I'm sure he'll make some headway then :)
I'm going to bump this back up to relevancy.
Super Mario 3D World (Mariolegofan)
Professor Layton vs Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (SlowPokemon)
Wario Land 3 (DonValentino)
Mario Kart Wii/Mario Kart 8 (NocturneOfShadow)
Xenoblade Chronicles (Maelstrom)
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4 (Yugi)
Super Smash Bros. 4 (FireArrow and others)
Pokemon Diamond/Pearl/Platinum (FireArrow again)
These are projects that I'm interested in doing, anything not bolded isn't that interesting, and I removed vgld's suggestion because I'd prefer to do something an actual arranger nominated.
You can remove DPP.
It's going to be the replacing the sheets project.
replacing sheets =/= arrangement project
But we can't have both being the same thing at the same time, as the same people are interested.
And, it seems a little unfair to those who do not care for it at all.
Quote from: Maelstrom on January 10, 2015, 03:23:13 AMBut we can't have both being the same thing at the same time, as the same people are interested.
And, it seems a little unfair to those who do not care for it at all.
They aren't the same thing.
Replacing the Sheets: Replacing crap on the site.
Arrangement Project: Putting new stuff on the site.
Seems like you're the only one complaining.
I'm down with SSB4 but the choice that will probably get my most effort by far is Pokémon. While Xenoblade catches my interest, I can't say for certain that'll I'll end up contributing a lot (if any) to it. As far as the other games, I'm either "meh" (which means I'll prob be as active as I was for Paper Mario), or I've never played the game (which is worse).
I'd be interested in any.
Quote from: Maelstrom on January 10, 2015, 03:23:13 AMBut we can't have both being the same thing at the same time, as the same people are interested.
And, it seems a little unfair to those who do not care for it at all.
In the off chance they both are both selected, we could probably end up just combining the update as one big one and get it done sooner.
Quote from: Olimar12345 on January 10, 2015, 02:23:08 PMIn the off chance they both are both selected, we could probably end up just combining the update as one big one and get it done sooner.
There's an idea.
I'm voting for Super Smash Bros. 4. I think it's a game a lot of people have gone in contact with and thereby are willing to support the project. I also support Wario Land 3, being one of my favorite games I played as a kid, however I don't know if there are as many who are willing to participate in that due to it's low popularity.
Whoa this is still a thing
I'm down for anything Pokémon, of course. There are tons of great tracks I've love to see arranged.
In all fairness, though, SSB4 is probably a better choice for since it's universal and everyone can enjoy it.
Question, though: how far would this arrangement project go? Would every song be arranged, or would it just linger until people aren't interested in any of the remaining tracks?
Quote from: Latios212 on April 26, 2015, 05:42:37 PMQuestion, though: how far would this arrangement project go? Would every song be arranged, or would it just linger until people aren't interested in any of the remaining tracks?
MUST DO XENOBLADEIt really depends on how much interest there is and how many songs there are. Imo, it would be better not to do smash just because it's hard to discern what is unique enough from the original to deserve and arrangement and there is no definite end point with it as there are 150+ remixes.
I also think it should be something without a ton of arrangements on the site, and enough interest to get quite a few there.
I think we should pull a Maestro and vote for what everyone is ok with. But, seeing as this is different from hexameron, we would need some way to let people emphasize what they would arrange the most for, so we don't end up with something that everyone only wants to arrange one song for.
And we gotta finish the old one ;)
I don't think Smash 4 would be a good idea and here's why:
1. Do you know how many songs this thing has? The project would take literally forever and would be with no doubt dropped sooner than everyone expects. And if we have never finished relatively short projects like DQIX, who does really think we'll do Smash? Long projects always end up stagnant anyway...
2. A great majority of the song in Smash are originals from other games, so technically, you're not arranging Smash songs per se, just cluttering various songs from random games below the name "Smash Bros. 4". Because the subtitle has to be the original game if it's not remixed, not Smash Bros. That also leads to songs that were in older Smash games such as Melee, so in the end everything is just a mess: are we arranging the whole Smash series, just 4 but with Brawl and Melee themes? Who'd know.
And honestly, if these songs are not even arranged by request, I highly doubt they would be done just because of the arrangement project.
3. While it's undeniable that its popularity is enormous, we also have to think that arrangement projects do not depend solely on popularity even if it's an important point. I'm talking about accessibility. Aside from the gigantic number of tracks, Smash by no means has not even remotely easy songs to arrange.
An Arrangement Project has to be something which everyone more or less can contribute to, if not what's the point, if the songs are only accessible to arrangers like Bespinben, Olimar or Deku to name a few.
This is why I can't help but insist in doing a smaller and simpler project, so we actually finish it unlike all the AP to date. And that doesn't mean we have to do one with 6 songs or not known at all, we could easily do something with well-known series like Wario Land, Mario, Pokemon, Zelda, etc... just simpler.
Quote from: DonValentino on April 27, 2015, 03:10:33 AMSmash by no means has not even remotely easy songs to arrange. An Arrangement Project has to be something which everyone more or less can contribute to, if not what's the point, if the songs are only accessible to arrangers like Bespinben, Olimar or Deku to name a few.
Welp, I was going to suggest Super Paper Mario, but looks like that ain't happening, haha.
Perhaps it would be worth looking at the popular sheets on the website? Particularly those that are also in a collection of only a few. Kingdom Hearts and Sonic songs, for example, garner quite a bit of popularity, though they're not Nintendo IP's so I'm not sure if they can be considered...
Quote from: DonValentino on April 27, 2015, 03:10:33 AMI don't think Smash 4 would be a good idea and here's why:
1. Do you know how many songs this thing has? The project would take literally forever and would be with no doubt dropped sooner than everyone expects. And if we have never finished relatively short projects like DQIX, who does really think we'll do Smash? Long projects always end up stagnant anyway...
2. A great majority of the song in Smash are originals from other games, so technically, you're not arranging Smash songs per se, just cluttering various songs from random games below the name "Smash Bros. 4". Because the subtitle has to be the original game if it's not remixed, not Smash Bros. That also leads to songs that were in older Smash games such as Melee, so in the end everything is just a mess: are we arranging the whole Smash series, just 4 but with Brawl and Melee themes? Who'd know.
And honestly, if these songs are not even arranged by request, I highly doubt they would be done just because of the arrangement project.
3. While it's undeniable that its popularity is enormous, we also have to think that arrangement projects do not depend solely on popularity even if it's an important point. I'm talking about accessibility. Aside from the gigantic number of tracks, Smash by no means has not even remotely easy songs to arrange.
An Arrangement Project has to be something which everyone more or less can contribute to, if not what's the point, if the songs are only accessible to arrangers like Bespinben, Olimar or Deku to name a few.
This is why I can't help but insist in doing a smaller and simpler project, so we actually finish it unlike all the AP to date. And that doesn't mean we have to do one with 6 songs or not known at all, we could easily do something with well-known series like Wario Land, Mario, Pokemon, Zelda, etc... just simpler.
Hmm you kind of changed my mind. Smart opinion, can definitely agree with you about accessibility and that smaller games might be a better choice.
Quote from: JesterMusician on April 27, 2015, 03:42:13 AMWelp, I was going to suggest Super Paper Mario, but looks like that ain't happening, haha.
Perhaps it would be worth looking at the popular sheets on the website? Particularly those that are also in a collection of only a few. Kingdom Hearts and Sonic songs, for example, garner quite a bit of popularity, though they're not Nintendo IP's so I'm not sure if they can be considered...
Have anyone mentioned Sonic? It seems like a great choice, not to difficult songs, well-known series and there aren't many Sonic arrangements on site.
Quote from: Tobbeh99 on April 27, 2015, 05:16:20 AMHave anyone mentioned Sonic? It seems like a great choice, not to difficult songs, well-known series and there aren't many Sonic arrangements on site.
Not really enough interest.
Quote from: JesterMusician on April 27, 2015, 03:42:13 AMPerhaps it would be worth looking at the popular sheets on the website? Particularly those that are also in a collection of only a few. Kingdom Hearts and Sonic songs, for example, garner quite a bit of popularity, though they're not Nintendo IP's so I'm not sure if they can be considered...
So, basicly, Fire Emblem Awakening and Xenoblade Chronicles.
Let Xenoblade go :p
What about Mario Kart 8?
Quote from: mariolegofan on April 27, 2015, 06:54:01 AMLet Xenoblade go :p
You haven't played it or even listened to it.
Quote from: Maelstrom on September 12, 2014, 08:48:06 PMSome Xenoblade music:
Title Theme
Incredible if you played the game
Spoiler
Spoiler
Spoiler
Spoiler
Spoiler
Spoiler
Spoiler
Spoiler
Maelstrom...take a chill pill xD
As great as the Xenoblade OST is, there has to be community interest. Without that, the project would drag on for years with only one or two members doing anything.
Quote from: Olimar12345 on April 27, 2015, 08:11:53 AMAs great as the Xenoblade OST is, there has to be community interest. Without that, the project would drag on for years with only one or two members doing anything.
Point taken.
Again, sorry for continuing this, but maybe we should wait until the current project finishes. That way, we do not get way ahead of ourselves.
^Literally the op and the reason there hasn't been a poll yet xD
Quote from: Olimar12345 on September 12, 2014, 06:18:36 AMJust remember that this doesn't happen until after the current project is completed.
Quote from: Maelstrom on April 27, 2015, 07:06:28 AMYou haven't played it or even listened to it.
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I Actually love th music from Xenoblade and wouldn't mind doing it for a project but it would just be us 2 doing it :/
Quote from: Olimar12345 on April 27, 2015, 10:04:56 AM^Literally the op and the reason there hasn't been a poll yet xD
You're exactly right. The next step (other than finishing the current one) is narrowing down to a few games that we all really like and picking one that everyone agrees on.
I'll just throw a few popular ones out there.
The most popular Mario games would probably be these:
Mario Kart 8
Super Mario 3D World
And Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon.
According to the site stats.....these are the most popular with all the songs maxed in popularity (this is only under Super Mario)
As for Zelda, Ocarina of Time and/or Majoras Mask are the most popular.....but both of those have a lot of songs already.
As for Pokemon, idk. They are all so good musically.
I say we all decide on a popular Pokemon, Zelda, and Mario game that doesn't have many songs on site.
Then we take a vote on which game we picked from each category.
I say we pick a game that doesn't have many or any songs on site. That's why I thought Mario Kart 8, Super Mario 3D World, and Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon were good choices. They are all very popular both world wide and have a ton of popularity on the site.
Quote from: mariolegofan on April 27, 2015, 03:37:29 PMI say we all decide on a popular Pokemon, Zelda, and Mario game that doesn't have many songs on site.
Then we take a vote on which game we picked from each category.
I say we pick a game that doesn't have many or any songs on site. That's why I thought Mario Kart 8, Super Mario 3D World, and Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon were good choices. They are all very popular both world wide and have a ton of popularity on the site.
I definitely like this idea of going with a main series game that doesn't have much arranged for it. Probably a recent game, as implied above, will have almost no sheets arranged for it. (Because people are busy and messy sheets aren't allowed on site anymore.)
So something like
Pokémon X/Y (in addition to the ones mentioned above) would be a good idea... right now we just have 6 very good sheets on site and a few sitting on the submissions board, and... that's it.
Me wandering off on a tangent
As for many older games (in many series), it's not here, not there... as in there are a decent amount of songs arranged but they're for the most part bad, and there's also a lot of songs missing. I'd like to be involved in a dual replacement/arrangement project in the future. I can see that happening for many games.
Also, there are
no Kirby songs on site from the past 5 years, and I can probably count on one hand how many have been arranged at all.
The thing is, I'd like to do something that's not one of the big 3. Just because it's not one doesn't mean that no one will arrange for it. And we need to choose a soundtrack that arranges well. You can't say that for every Zelda, Mario, and Pokémon game. Kirby's Return to Dreamland firs the bill well.
And, there was some interest in Xenoblade for those wondering. All you need to do is look through the other pages and ignore my obnoxious posts. (I still can't believe I acted like that)
Some of the knockoff Mario franchises need some love, like Mario Party and Mario Kart. Also, Kid Icarus Uprising is a fairly new franchise and has lots of love by some users here as well as the whole internet.
I personally love the KI:U OST but the majority of it just wouldn't arrange well.
I think your both right! :)
The biggest problems are probably these.
Everyone has such a different opinion that we won't be able to pick one that everyone agrees on. So, how about we have the voting take place in this thread not on a poll. And I think only arrangers should be able to vote since they are doing the arranging of course and anyone that votes should participate in the project even if it's not the game they want. Since everyone has such a different opinion, this might be the way it has to work :/
Any thoughts?
Mario Kart 8 works great! I'd be inclined to say Kirby's Return to Dreamland works better because recent Kirby games need more love. (Well, you can say that about pretty much any series, but you get the point.)
Quote from: mariolegofan on April 27, 2015, 07:43:58 PMEveryone has such a different opinion that we won't be able to pick one that everyone agrees on. So, how about we have the voting take place in this thread not on a poll. And I think only arrangers should be able to vote since they are doing the arranging of course and anyone that votes should participate in the project even if it's not the game they want. Since everyone has such a different opinion, this might be the way it has to work :/
Any thoughts?
I'm fine with this. Pretty much everyone who's posted on this thread is a great arranger. (I admire all of you a lot. Really. Me? I'm working on becoming as legit as you guys. I'll get there someday. In the meantime, I'll help you out as much as I can.) And I don't think the opposition to a fairly popular game will turn a signficant amount of arrangers away, anyway.
Summer break is coming up and I'll try to put a lot more effort into arranging. I've been mostly busy with schoolwork, which is why I haven't been arranging much, but I'll try to step it up and produce some more material in the coming months.
Can we get a list on the OP or something of all the candidates so far?
Quote from: JDMEK5 on April 27, 2015, 08:50:58 PMCan we get a list on the OP or something of all the candidates so far?
Sure, I'll compile a list, but to avoid confusion lets start over. Back to the OP's original request:
everyone post ONE game to nominate.
Are there any Zelda games we could do?
I'm sure A Link Between Worlds and The Minish Cap could use a boost, but other than that Zelda's pretty well covered.
also i suggest mega man if anyone wants to
I guess I vote for Minish Cap
Obviously Zelda: The Wand of Gamelon!
... It's actually has an impressive soundtrack for its time...
Voting for Kirby Super Star Ultra
Voting Mario Kart 8
I know Fingerz would want to do this one too.^
I'm debating between FE:A and Xenoblade. I'll decide when someone nominates either, or I run out of time.
Since I'm going for something that I think has a chance of getting a lot of interest, I'm voting Pokémon X & Pokémon Y.
I nominate
Kirby's Return to Dreamland. Good idea, Maelstrom.
Quote from: AwesomeYears on April 27, 2015, 09:39:54 PMObviously Zelda: The Wand of Gamelon!
Spoiler
I would vote for X/Y. As far as nomination I'm going to nominate Star Fox 64.
This puts us at six nominations, how about we cap it off at 12 or something?
I was unsure which Final Fantasy game I should nominate IV,VI, X or something else. However I nominate Final Fantasy VI, think it's the most popular. The Final Fantasy section could need some more sheets.
Quote from: Olimar12345 on April 28, 2015, 01:15:15 PMThis puts us at six nominations, how about we cap it off at 12 or something?
What if we only limit it to one nomination per person? That would probably put us near 12.
Well then that brings back my point of non-arrangers suggesting things and having many poll options. Reread the first two pages of this.
While I reaffirm my interest in a game like Wario Land 3, I'd like to change my nomination to Mario & Luigi: Dream Team.
if we are still voting, Minish Cap all the way. I'll even write an arrangement of my own for once. I mean it xD
I vote for Minish Cap
Quote from: Tobbeh99 on April 29, 2015, 05:41:12 AMI vote for Minish Cap
Right now, we are just doing nominations. If you want to nominate a different game, go right ahead.
I nominate Super Paper Mario. Yes, some of the music is difficult, but that just means there's more to work with. ;) Besides, there are certainly some tracks that are not, and you can get creative where the songs allow. For example, Memory, which is actually on the site, could have the left hand snapping to capture that characteristic clock sound (side note: I might challenge that one).
In my opinion, this game has the best story of the series, and it's accompanied really well by the soundtrack. And if I was able to arrange two songs given my limited experience, I'm sure many of you can if you just try.
(Sonic Adventure is also worth nominating, if another arranger would like a suggestion)
Quote from: Maelstrom on April 29, 2015, 05:45:22 AMRight now, we are just doing nominations. If you want to nominate a different game, go right ahead.
I actually have done a nomination, if you look above in the comments, but it isn't up on the list for some reason.
My nomination is:
Final Fantasy VI
I'm starting to think that having nominations from active/participating arrangers only was the way to go.
And we really shouldn't be doing any of this until we finish the current one, especially since the conversation has already started to repeat itself over time.
This may sound like a lot of work for the updaters, but how would it sound if we had two projects? One for a large, popular game like Mario, Zelda, or Pokemon, while the other project focuses on something smaller like Final Fantasy, Kirby, Super Paper Mario, or Fire Emblem. Or Xenoblade How does this sound?
Quote from: Olimar12345 on April 29, 2015, 06:38:53 AMI'm starting to think that having nominations from active/participating arrangers only was the way to go.
How about community nominations, but the arrangers vote? Or vice versa?
Quote from: Maelstrom on April 29, 2015, 06:44:24 AMThis may sound like a lot of work for the updaters, but how would it sound if we had two projects? One for a large, popular game like Mario, Zelda, or Pokemon, while the other project focuses on something smaller like Final Fantasy, Kirby, Super Paper Mario, or Fire Emblem. Or Xenoblade How does this sound?
R.I.P. in peace Dragon Quest IX Project. (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=4071.0)
Just as a reminder though (and back to the whole "convo-starting-to-repeat-itself" bit) this topic is for an OFFICIAL arrangement project.
Quote from: Olimar12345 on April 29, 2015, 06:54:17 AMR.I.P. in peace Dragon Quest IX Project. (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=4071.0)
Just as a reminder though (and back to the whole "convo-starting-to-repeat-itself" bit) this topic is for an OFFICIAL arrangement project.
Still, we decided on the next replacement project before the current one finished.
That's probably because replacements are easier to do, since you're mostly just fixing existing sheets. This is for essentially arranging an entire OST (or more) from scratch.
for a nomination I would want to do Sonic the Hedgehog: 2006
Quote from: Maelstrom on April 29, 2015, 07:21:37 AMStill, we decided on the next replacement project before the current one finished.
This.
Quote from: MaestroUGC on April 29, 2015, 07:23:19 AMThat's probably because replacements are easier to do, since you're mostly just fixing existing sheets. This is for essentially arranging an entire OST (or more) from scratch.
But tbh, I didn't like that either. Making these decisions too quickly can lead to less or loss of interest. Ideally, I think we should start the poll right after we finish a project.
Quote from: Maelstrom on April 29, 2015, 07:21:37 AMStill, we decided on the next replacement project before the current one finished.
Quote from: Olimar12345 on April 29, 2015, 08:04:29 AMThis.
I thought we were discussing an arrangement project, not a replacement project.
Quote from: Olimar12345 on April 29, 2015, 08:04:29 AMIdeally, I think we should start the poll right after we finish a project.
Sure. Sounds good.
On last thing before we let this topic set. We need to make sure there is (at least) one updater who can and will commit to reviewing the sheets. I think, out of all the updaters, Deku was the most interested in Paper Mario music, but he has also been the most busy recently. And it's hard for someone who's not that interested in a soundtrack to go through and check every single piece. So, to avoid the limbo the current arrangement project has been in for so long, the final choice needs an updater's approval and their commitment to it.
Sorry about that, I'll get back to it as soon as I'm done with the replacing sheets project. Trying to chew through over 80 sheets isn't as quick as I might've hoped.
Quote from: Deku Trombonist on April 30, 2015, 09:04:39 AMSorry about that, I'll get back to it as soon as I'm done with the replacing sheets project. Trying to chew through over 80 sheets isn't as quick as I might've hoped.
Not trying to bother/guilt you or anything. I know it takes a ton of time and you have a lot of stuff irl.
Perhaps we need to combine the replacing and fixing projects, being that they have a similar goal.
What do you mean? I thought they were basically the same thing.
Well, I mean only have one. Combine their efforts.
Quote from: Deku Trombonist on April 30, 2015, 06:37:12 PMWhat do you mean? I thought they were basically the same thing.
I guess picking a game: replacing the sheets that needs to be replaced as well as adding new arrangements.
No, not an arrangement project and fixing project.
A replacing AND fixing project.
I say we scrap the fixing projects idea (after the current one is done of course)
And replace that with the replacement project.
As I said in the banjo thread, every sheet should be listed unless an updater says the existing one is ok. The vast majority of fixes I've done for that I wouldn't even put my name to (formatting, occasional wrong/missing notes) but they still need to be done. So replacing and fixing are already one project.
Quote from: mariolegofan on April 30, 2015, 07:41:20 PMI say we scrap the fixing projects idea (after the current one is done of course)
And replace that with the replacement project.
I was thinking the exact same idea, but the other way around.
Quote from: Deku Trombonist on April 30, 2015, 07:51:18 PMAs I said in the banjo thread, every sheet should be listed unless an updater says the existing one is ok. The vast majority of fixes I've done for that I wouldn't even put my name to (formatting, occasional wrong/missing notes) but they still need to be done. So replacing and fixing are already one project.
I agree. But there are a lot that are so bad that you can put your own name on.
Quote from: Olimar12345 on April 30, 2015, 08:09:28 PMI was thinking the exact same idea, but the other way around.
Wasn't the fixing the sheets project(s) failing because of lost of interest? That is why we came up with the replacement project idea
But the fixing the sheets project was also a replacement project, it just had editing as well.
Quote from: Olimar12345 on April 30, 2015, 05:05:48 PMPerhaps we need to combine the replacing and fixing projects, being that they have a similar goal.
Quote from: Maelstrom on April 30, 2015, 07:00:46 PMNo, not an arrangement project and fixing project.
A replacing AND fixing project.
That's a cool idea. Haha what if we did that for D/P/Pt?
I like the idea of combining the replacing and fixing.
Quote from: mariolegofan on May 01, 2015, 06:44:53 AMI agree. But there are a lot that are so bad that you can put your own name on.
Perhaps, but in my opinion that's not really what it's all about.
Quote from: DonValentino on April 30, 2015, 10:47:58 AMOuch. That's a lot.
I think we're a little over halfway, so we're getting there.
Quote from: Deku Trombonist on May 01, 2015, 06:54:19 PMPerhaps, but in my opinion that's not really what it's all about.
You're totally right! :)
I guess it doesn't really matter