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Title: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: Olimar12345 on September 15, 2014, 07:33:04 PM
Welcome back to the fourth round of the Arrangement Contest! The theme this time around is:

Arrange any video game song to sound spooky/scary.

Take any song from any video game, excluding pieces that are already spooky or scary-sounding, and take a horror approach to arranging it. Make it sound like something you would hear on or around Halloween! This of course means, songs like Lavender town, Submerged Castle, anything from Luigi's Mansion, and music blatantly from horror games aren't allowed. You can use any instruments you may like. In case you are in doubt whether your selected piece is valid, PM me and ask.

Your score will be based on the following criteria:
1) Orchestration: Do the instruments serve the music? A simple copy/paste would result in a low score, while a dynamic orchestration would yield something higher.
2) Preservation: does the arrangement make it clear what the original was while meeting the criteria? If the arrangement only makes a single reference to the original while it does something else entirely, then it'll get a low score.
3) Creativity: does the arrangement go beyond the criteria? If it only does the basic change, low score.
4) Criteria: does the arrangement meet the criteria for the challenge? If no, low score; barely, middle; totally, high.
5) Formatting: make sure your piece has the following information: a title, a subtitle(including the original song title and the game it's from), the the composers name, and the arrangers name(either your NSM alias or real name). You get more points if you arrangement had other standard things such as measure numbers, dynamics, etc.(if such things apply to your piece). This category should result in easy points.
6) Popular vote: each entry gets a corresponding score from everyone who votes, an average from the votes for the piece out of all the votes.

Alright! Here are the entrants:

Bloop
"Toad Tomb" Based on "Toad Town" from Paper Mario
[MUS] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59554832/nsm/Arrangement%20Contest%20No.4/Bloop/Toad%20Tomb%20-%20Bloop.mus) [MP3] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59554832/nsm/Arrangement%20Contest%20No.4/Bloop/Toad%20Tomb%20-%20Bloop.mp3) [PDF] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59554832/nsm/Arrangement%20Contest%20No.4/Bloop/Toad%20Tomb%20-%20Bloop.pdf)
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MaestroUGC
"Stranded - Night on the Distant Planet" Based on "Forest of Hope" form Pikmin
[MUS] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59554832/nsm/Arrangement%20Contest%20No.4/MaestroUGC/Stranded%20-%20Night%20on%20the%20Distant%20Planet%20-%20MaestroUGC.mus) [MP3] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59554832/nsm/Arrangement%20Contest%20No.4/MaestroUGC/Stranded%20-%20Night%20on%20the%20Distant%20Planet%20-%20MaestroUGC.mp3) [PDF] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59554832/nsm/Arrangement%20Contest%20No.4/MaestroUGC/Stranded%20-%20Night%20on%20the%20Distant%20Planet%20-%20MaestroUGC.pdf)
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NocturneOfShadow
"Lament of the Legendary Hero" Based on "The Legendary Hero" from The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker
[MUS] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59554832/nsm/Arrangement%20Contest%20No.4/NocturneOfShadow/Lament%20of%20the%20Legendary%20Hero%20-%20NocturneOfShadow.mus) [MP3] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59554832/nsm/Arrangement%20Contest%20No.4/NocturneOfShadow/Lament%20of%20the%20Legendary%20Hero%20-%20NocturneOfShadow.mp3) [PDF] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59554832/nsm/Arrangement%20Contest%20No.4/NocturneOfShadow/Lament%20of%20the%20Legendary%20Hero%20-%20NocturneOfShadow.pdf)
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SlowPokemon
"The Blood-Stained Peaks of Froenborg" Based on "The Silver Peaks of Froenborg" from Professor Layton and the Azran Legacy
[MUS] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59554832/nsm/Arrangement%20Contest%20No.4/SlowPokemon/The%20Blood-Stained%20Peaks%20of%20Froenborg%20-%20SlowPokemon.mus) [MP3] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59554832/nsm/Arrangement%20Contest%20No.4/SlowPokemon/The%20Blood-Stained%20Peaks%20of%20Froenborg%20-%20SlowPokemon.mp3) [PDF] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59554832/nsm/Arrangement%20Contest%20No.4/SlowPokemon/The%20Blood-Stained%20Peaks%20of%20Froenborg%20-%20SlowPokemon.pdf)
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To get an idea of how things may be like, below are links to the previous contests.

Arrangement Contest No. 1 (http://forum.ninsheetm.us/index.php?topic=3798.0)
Arrangement Contest No. 2 (http://forum.ninsheetm.us/index.php?topic=4171.0)
Arrangement Contest No. 3 (http://forum.ninsheetm.us/index.php?topic=4437.0)


Post below if you would like to take part in the contest, or if you'd like to be a judge.

Arrangers:

-MaestroUGC
-SlowPokemon
-FireArrow
-Clanker37
-NocturneOfShadow
-DonValentino
-Bloop

Judges:

-Olimar12345
-Echo
-Yugi



Once you've signed up, PM me with your song choice as soon as you decide. We won't make this an anonymous contest, but let's try to make it a surprise as to which songs we'll be arranging. This will also prevent people from arranging the same song twice, if the issue rises(in which case, first come first serve). PM me your complete submission when you finish.



Tentative dates are as follows:

September 24th will be the deadline for signing up/choosing a song.
October 24th will be the deadline for submitting your piece.
October 25th poll opens for popularity votes.
October 30th poll closes.
October 31st post results and crown the winner.
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4 [Sign-Ups!]
Post by: MaestroUGC on September 15, 2014, 07:37:24 PM
I will accept the call to challenge and also volunteer to be Judge, Jury, and Executioner.
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4 [Sign-Ups!]
Post by: Olimar12345 on September 15, 2014, 07:39:09 PM
I think it will be easier this time around to do either/or, so pick which one you want to do more!
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4 [Sign-Ups!]
Post by: mikey on September 15, 2014, 08:00:14 PM
I'm thinking about actually signing up for this now that my music professor gave me permission to ignore him and work on arranging stuff during class, which also means my first arrangement will be done soon :D

And isn't criteria #4 redundant?  Because it's basically scoring you on how well you scored :P
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4 [Sign-Ups!]
Post by: Olimar12345 on September 15, 2014, 08:05:08 PM
Awesome! Can I put you down as an arranger? Also, that criteria section refers to the theme of the contest, not your score.
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4 [Sign-Ups!]
Post by: MaestroUGC on September 15, 2014, 08:20:53 PM
"Scoring highly will give you a 10 point bonus; Scoring low only 2. If you manage to score a zero I will come to your house and punch you in the kidney and steal all of your forks."

Then I suppose just put me down as a player, I would've taken the penalty or whatever for being a judgrorororor, but I suppose Olimar wants a level playing field.
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4 [Sign-Ups!]
Post by: mikey on September 15, 2014, 08:33:10 PM
Awesome! Can I put you down as an arranger? Also, that criteria section refers to the theme of the contest, not your score.
Oh, okay.  And I'll let you know like tomorrow once I figure out some stuff (mainly like what piece I would want to use)
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4 [Sign-Ups!]
Post by: SlowPokemon on September 15, 2014, 09:22:53 PM
I volunteer as an arranger ;O
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4 [Sign-Ups!]
Post by: FireArrow on September 15, 2014, 09:56:44 PM
Me too ;O

I may end up not finishing in time, depends on how much my teachers let off on homework.
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4 [Sign-Ups!]
Post by: Maelstrom on September 15, 2014, 10:04:42 PM
I might do this. It depends on whether or not I can actually make a song creepy.... :P
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4 [Sign-Ups!]
Post by: Olimar12345 on September 15, 2014, 11:46:26 PM
Once you've signed up, PM me with your song choice as soon as you decide. We won't make this an anonymous contest, but let's try to make it a surprise as to which songs we'll be arranging. This will also prevent people from arranging the same song twice, if the issue rises(in which case, first come first serve).
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4 [Sign-Ups!]
Post by: MaestroUGC on September 16, 2014, 04:05:54 AM
When's the deadline for choosing a piece and the deadline for the contest going to be?
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4 [Sign-Ups!]
Post by: Yugi on September 16, 2014, 04:43:44 AM
Can we pick non-spooky songs from horror games, such as the level 1 theme from Eversion?

Also I can sign up to be a judge or participant, whichever you need me to do.
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4 [Sign-Ups!]
Post by: Olimar12345 on September 16, 2014, 04:56:05 AM
In case you are in doubt whether your selected piece is valid, PM me and ask.

We won't make this an anonymous contest, but let's try to make it a surprise as to which songs we'll be arranging.

People should learn to read.
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4 [Sign-Ups!]
Post by: Yugi on September 16, 2014, 04:58:16 AM
I wasn't planning on using that song through, I was using that as an example for "non-spooky song from a spooky game".

Other point is valid though.
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4 [Sign-Ups!]
Post by: MaestroUGC on September 16, 2014, 05:00:29 AM
Comment: Define Spooky.
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4 [Sign-Ups!]
Post by: Olimar12345 on September 16, 2014, 05:04:13 AM
I'd say just to pick another song. The farther away you get from horror games with the original, the more freedom you have to work with.

As for your participation, it's up to you. Pick which one you'd want to do more.
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4 [Sign-Ups!]
Post by: Yugi on September 16, 2014, 05:08:05 AM
As the foreseer of everything SPOOKY on this website, I volunteer to be a judge.

If there are a surplus of judges, I'll switch though.
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4 [Sign-Ups!]
Post by: Clanker37 on September 16, 2014, 08:34:44 AM
I volunteer as an arranger! Hoping to beat my previous high score

Also:
Comment: Define Spooky.

Is it like "tee-hee" spooky like:

Spoiler
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Or "I'm about to be killed" spooky, as in:

Spoiler
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Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4 [Sign-Ups!]
Post by: Yugi on September 16, 2014, 10:02:40 AM
I'd say that spooky is more "anything that fills the player with unease", some examples of this could be:

Or, if you want something a little more "epic"

Of course, all of these themes are from horror games, so you can't use them.
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4 [Sign-Ups!]
Post by: Olimar12345 on September 16, 2014, 04:18:49 PM
I'm going to add the following formatting section to the grading:

5) Formatting - make sure your piece has the following information: a title, a subtitle(including the original song title and the game it's from), the the composers name, and the arrangers name(either your NSM alias or real name). You get more points if you arrangement had other standard things such as measure numbers, dynamics, etc.(if it applies to your piece). This should be easy points.
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4 [Sign-Ups!]
Post by: Maelstrom on September 16, 2014, 05:07:03 PM
Here's another. Just felt the need to add this to the list of examples
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4 [Sign-Ups!]
Post by: Olimar12345 on September 16, 2014, 05:45:41 PM
When's the deadline for choosing a piece and the deadline for the contest going to be?


Tentative dates are as follows:

September 24th will be the deadline for signing up/choosing a song.
October 24th will be the deadline for submitting your piece.
October 25th poll opens for popularity votes.
October 30th poll closes.
October 31st post results and crown winners.

How does this sound?
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4 [Sign-Ups!]
Post by: Maelstrom on September 16, 2014, 05:50:37 PM
Sounds good! I'll need to see if I can get something preliminary to work before I commit to this.
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4 [Sign-Ups!]
Post by: FireArrow on September 17, 2014, 12:08:52 AM
Whatever definition of creepy we're going with, I'm doing the teehee kind.
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4 [Sign-Ups!]
Post by: Olimar12345 on September 17, 2014, 02:50:53 AM
I'm not placing any restrictions on "what kind of scary." Have at it.
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4 [Sign-Ups Until 9/24/14!]
Post by: DonValentino on September 17, 2014, 08:39:11 PM
I love the theme! It's kinda what Yoko Shimomura did with "Jingle Bells" in Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time.
Before signing up, I'd like to find a song first though :J

Only one question just in case, are multiple songs allowed like a little medley?
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4 [Sign-Ups Until 9/24/14!]
Post by: Olimar12345 on September 18, 2014, 01:32:12 AM
Only one question just in case, are multiple songs allowed like a little medley?

Nope. Only one song choice is allowed for this.
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4 [Sign-Ups Until 9/24/14!]
Post by: mikey on September 18, 2014, 02:58:19 AM
I'll be in as arranger...
wish me luck :X
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4 [Sign-Ups Until 9/24/14!]
Post by: DonValentino on September 18, 2014, 10:55:53 AM
Nope. Only one song choice is allowed for this.

Thanks! Not a problem.

Edit: Oh and add me to the arrangers list please.
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4 [Sign-Ups Until 9/24/14!]
Post by: Bloop on September 18, 2014, 09:45:24 PM
Count me in as arranger too! (I haven't checked the forums for 4 days waaah)
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4 [Sign-Ups Until 9/24/14!]
Post by: Olimar12345 on September 19, 2014, 05:55:15 PM
For those of you still searching for a song to arrange, I urge you to hurry! Too few of you have actually sent in your song choice!
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4 [Sign-Ups Until 9/24/14!]
Post by: Bloop on September 19, 2014, 07:16:29 PM
If I change my mind before the 24th, can I still send a PM or am I stuck to my first choice?
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4 [Sign-Ups Until 9/24/14!]
Post by: MaestroUGC on September 19, 2014, 07:19:57 PM
In the past you could change it before the cutoff time, so I imagine it would be the same this time. You just have to stick with whatever your last choice was.
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4 [Sign-Ups Until 9/24/14!]
Post by: Olimar12345 on September 19, 2014, 07:27:56 PM
^ this.
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4 [Sign-Ups Until 9/24/14!]
Post by: Sebastian on September 19, 2014, 10:04:20 PM
Darn, I'd love to help but I'm to busy
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4 [Sign-Ups Until 9/24/14!]
Post by: braix on September 19, 2014, 10:26:41 PM
Darn, I'd love to help but I'm too lazy
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4 [Sign-Ups Until 9/24/14!]
Post by: MaestroUGC on September 19, 2014, 10:28:55 PM
Darn, I'd love to help but I don't care.
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4 [Sign-Ups Until 9/24/14!]
Post by: SlowPokemon on September 20, 2014, 12:04:34 AM
Darn, I'd love to help but this is a competition not a site project that we need people for
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4 [Sign-Ups Until 9/24/14!]
Post by: mikey on September 20, 2014, 05:20:36 AM
Darn, I'd love to just give it a shot and sign up anyway
oh wait
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4 [Sign-Ups Until 9/24/14!]
Post by: Olimar12345 on September 22, 2014, 02:59:59 AM
Darn, I'd love to, but I already am.

As for prizes, I'm pretty low on funds, so the prizes I am offering are:

1) I'll transcribe/arrange a piece of your choice! For piano, of course.
2) I'll make a custom sig image saying you won and stuff. I'll use all of my ms painting skillz.
3) A post will be made on the front page, proclaiming your victory with deets on the contest and whatnot.

If anyone has some prize ideas that they think would be coll or something, pm me.
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4 [Sign-Ups Until 9/24/14!]
Post by: FireArrow on September 22, 2014, 04:09:33 AM
Veteran Arranger.
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4 [Sign-Ups Until 9/24/14!]
Post by: braix on September 22, 2014, 05:00:55 AM
2) I'll make a custom sig image saying you won and stuff. I'll use all of my ms painting skillz.
AWWWWW YISSSSS
I'M IN

Well, I would, but I wouldn't know what I'd be doing at all.
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4 [Sign-Ups Until 9/24/14!]
Post by: Olimar12345 on September 23, 2014, 03:53:48 PM
Still waiting on one arranger's song choice! Also, tomorrow is the last day to join if you're still considering!
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: Olimar12345 on September 25, 2014, 01:30:31 PM
Alright! Sign-ups are complete. Arrangers, if you haven't already, begin arranging your piece! You have until October 24th! Good luck!
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: Olimar12345 on October 10, 2014, 02:28:08 AM
A little over two weeks remain! How is everyone doing?
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: MaestroUGC on October 10, 2014, 02:44:57 AM
I am doing yes.

I'm actually starting over from scratch.
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: Bloop on October 10, 2014, 06:53:17 AM
It's been lying untouched in my folder for a week now. Because y'know... Maybe something will happen to it..
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: Sebastian on October 10, 2014, 05:26:19 PM
A little over two weeks remain! How is everyone doing?
Wish I could say that I'm doing good, but forgot to join ::)
Anyway, I have a question for you Olimar: Remember when Bespinben and Fingerz had a head to head arrangement Battle thingy? I would actually be super interested in doing that with someone.
I guess it would have to be against someone around my arrangement level...
What do you think?
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: Olimar12345 on October 10, 2014, 06:41:04 PM
I'd say that you're in the wrong topic. (http://forum.ninsheetm.us/index.php?topic=5882.0)
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: Olimar12345 on October 13, 2014, 07:41:15 AM
Guys this is creeping up fast! How are things coming along? Do we need to extend some deadlines?
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 13, 2014, 02:29:00 PM
I'm good on deadlines, I have my arrangement mapped out. I've been busy with a score for a short film, but now that that's finished, I can start writing out the arrangement! :D
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: MaestroUGC on October 13, 2014, 03:43:36 PM
Historically, it's been the judgrors who need deadlines, not the contestants.
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: mikey on October 13, 2014, 04:20:20 PM
Hopefully I'll be finishing up this week
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: Bloop on October 13, 2014, 06:51:10 PM
hurhurhur creeping up i get it harhar

My piece is pretty much done, I just finished up some formatting things. I think everything should be alright by now.
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4 [Sign-Ups Until 9/24/14!]
Post by: Waddle Bro on October 13, 2014, 07:29:26 PM
As for prizes, I'm pretty low on funds, so the prizes I am offering are:

1) I'll transcribe/arrange a piece of your choice! For piano, of course.
This is a sick prize just sayingggggg
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: Olimar12345 on October 13, 2014, 07:34:06 PM
I'm poor waddle! :c If you have a better idea for a prize that's easy on the wallet, I'm all ears!
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: Waddle Bro on October 13, 2014, 07:36:27 PM
That wasn't sarcasm man!
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: Olimar12345 on October 13, 2014, 07:40:40 PM
Oh. hahaha, well I still think the prizes could be better lol.

...I should probably get started on that sig image...
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: FireArrow on October 14, 2014, 12:43:11 AM
Haven't even thought about it yet - homework is stupid, I don't have time to do anything. Maybe one weekend I'll just cheese an arrangement out of my ass.
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: MaestroUGC on October 14, 2014, 12:46:57 AM
That's usually what I do.
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: Clanker37 on October 14, 2014, 02:09:23 PM
Haven't even thought about it yet - homework is stupid, I don't have time to do anything. Maybe one weekend I'll just cheese an arrangement out of my ass.
^This is my issue too. :P I should get there though.
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: Bloop on October 17, 2014, 04:39:43 PM
With the 24th being the deadline, how do we actually submit a song? Just send a PM to Olimar?
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: Olimar12345 on October 17, 2014, 05:08:11 PM
Oh sorry, I forgot to mention that! Yes, PM me your complete submission when done.
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: mikey on October 17, 2014, 06:33:11 PM
Shoooot
I just realized that I can't dropbox stuff
(I tried to install it but it had problems and I ended up having to restart my laptop to factory settings cause of it)
Hey olimar can I email it to you instead
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: Olimar12345 on October 17, 2014, 07:41:42 PM
Uhh...sure.
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: CLBGM on October 19, 2014, 05:52:18 AM
nooo im late u.u when is the next contest?
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: DonValentino on October 21, 2014, 12:37:38 PM
Dang it I might not finish this on time >.<
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: mikey on October 21, 2014, 01:07:28 PM
I will email it to you on Wednesday olimar :D
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: FireArrow on October 22, 2014, 03:36:28 AM
Dang it I might not finish this on time >.<

Err, I feel ya bro.
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: mikey on October 22, 2014, 03:16:08 PM
My arrangement is as finished as Notepad 2012 can get it :P
It's okay if I took a few artistic liberties right?
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: MaestroUGC on October 22, 2014, 03:37:07 PM
As a champion of "artistic liberties" around here, sure?

Some liberties would have to be taken anyway given the nature of this contest. Of course it depends on the liberties you took and even then it's at the judgrors' discretion.
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: Olimar12345 on October 22, 2014, 04:55:50 PM
I have received three entries, which leaves four to go! Deadline is Friday, guys!
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: Clanker37 on October 24, 2014, 04:47:29 PM
Oh, this is still a thing.

I haven't even started my arrangement yet! I'm going to have to pull out, I'm sorry. When I signed up I forgot that I had exams which are now two weeks away...

This is a major fuck up. I'm unequivocally apologetic. There is little else I can say.

And yet, if you listen closely, you can hear the judges sighing in relief.
 
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: mikey on October 24, 2014, 06:01:21 PM
And yet, if you listen closely, you can hear the judges sighing in relief.
By George, he's right! O.o
Also 6 is a much cooler number than 7
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 25, 2014, 07:03:24 PM
Yooooooo is the poll going to go live today? And one question, how does the poll work, exactly?
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: Olimar12345 on October 25, 2014, 08:11:44 PM
Working on it atm. Also, if you haven't submitted your piece yet, pm me ASAP!
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: Olimar12345 on October 25, 2014, 09:29:09 PM
Alright! Here are the entrants:

Bloop
"Toad Tomb" Based on "Toad Town" from Paper Mario
[MUS] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59554832/nsm/Arrangement%20Contest%20No.4/Bloop/Toad%20Tomb%20-%20Bloop.mus) [MP3] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59554832/nsm/Arrangement%20Contest%20No.4/Bloop/Toad%20Tomb%20-%20Bloop.mp3) [PDF] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59554832/nsm/Arrangement%20Contest%20No.4/Bloop/Toad%20Tomb%20-%20Bloop.pdf)
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MaestroUGC
"Stranded - Night on the Distant Planet" Based on "Forest of Hope" form Pikmin
[MUS] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59554832/nsm/Arrangement%20Contest%20No.4/MaestroUGC/Stranded%20-%20Night%20on%20the%20Distant%20Planet%20-%20MaestroUGC.mus) [MP3] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59554832/nsm/Arrangement%20Contest%20No.4/MaestroUGC/Stranded%20-%20Night%20on%20the%20Distant%20Planet%20-%20MaestroUGC.mp3) [PDF] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59554832/nsm/Arrangement%20Contest%20No.4/MaestroUGC/Stranded%20-%20Night%20on%20the%20Distant%20Planet%20-%20MaestroUGC.pdf)
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NocturneOfShadow
"Lament of the Legendary Hero" Based on "The Legendary Hero" from The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker
[MUS] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59554832/nsm/Arrangement%20Contest%20No.4/NocturneOfShadow/Lament%20of%20the%20Legendary%20Hero%20-%20NocturneOfShadow.mus) [MP3] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59554832/nsm/Arrangement%20Contest%20No.4/NocturneOfShadow/Lament%20of%20the%20Legendary%20Hero%20-%20NocturneOfShadow.mp3) [PDF] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59554832/nsm/Arrangement%20Contest%20No.4/NocturneOfShadow/Lament%20of%20the%20Legendary%20Hero%20-%20NocturneOfShadow.pdf)
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SlowPokemon
"The Blood-Stained Peaks of Froenborg" Based on "The Silver Peaks of Froenborg" from Professor Layton and the Azran Legacy
[MUS] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59554832/nsm/Arrangement%20Contest%20No.4/SlowPokemon/The%20Blood-Stained%20Peaks%20of%20Froenborg%20-%20SlowPokemon.mus) [MP3] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59554832/nsm/Arrangement%20Contest%20No.4/SlowPokemon/The%20Blood-Stained%20Peaks%20of%20Froenborg%20-%20SlowPokemon.mp3) [PDF] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59554832/nsm/Arrangement%20Contest%20No.4/SlowPokemon/The%20Blood-Stained%20Peaks%20of%20Froenborg%20-%20SlowPokemon.pdf)
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Each piece will be scored from 1-10 in each of the following categories:
1) Orchestration 1-10
2) Preservation 1-10
3) Creativity 1-10
4) Criteria 1-10
5) Formatting 1-10
6) Popular Vote 1-10 (This score will reflect your position in the poll. The piece with the most votes will be given 10 points, the second most, 7.5 point, the third 5 points, and fourth 2.5 points.)

For more details on these criteria, refer to the OP. (http://forum.ninsheetm.us/index.php?topic=6395.msg255049#msg255049)
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: Olimar12345 on October 25, 2014, 09:35:43 PM
Poll is up!
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 25, 2014, 10:16:18 PM
The fuck Maestro

I move to disqualify Maestro's arrangement because it's too good
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: FireArrow on October 26, 2014, 12:35:41 AM
The fuck Maestro

I move to disqualify Maestro's arrangement because it's too good

It sounds like the background music to a creepy ballet.

EDIT: Can we have the next one over a school holiday so I can actually have time. ;p
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: MaestroUGC on October 26, 2014, 12:39:19 AM
We can try this again over the holiday break.
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: Bloop on October 26, 2014, 12:40:01 AM
I had a school holiday this week :3

Nice arrangements everyone! May the best one win!
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: FireArrow on October 26, 2014, 12:50:54 AM
I had a school holiday this week :3

Nice arrangements everyone! May the best one win!

says that while he's winning
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: Bloop on October 26, 2014, 01:01:21 AM
When I posted it, it was a tie D:
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 26, 2014, 01:46:59 AM
YO I GOT A VOTE

BEST OPERA INTERMISSION EVER
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 26, 2014, 03:18:06 AM
[6:27:06 PM] Jordan K: Olimar PM'd me asking for the Pokemon code
[6:27:56 PM] Zachary "Maestro" Loy: Charge him a billion dollars.
[6:28:06 PM] Zachary "Maestro" Loy: Or better yet.
[6:28:36 PM] Zachary "Maestro" Loy: Tell him you can't since his a judge and it could be misconstrued as a bribe.
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: mikey on October 27, 2014, 11:35:56 AM
I totally can't do what maestro can D:

EDIT: OR BLOOP ;_;
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 28, 2014, 05:04:47 AM
ouch
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: mikey on October 28, 2014, 01:25:05 PM
Well
at least I did better than the 3 who didn't finish :^)
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: MaestroUGC on October 29, 2014, 02:10:30 AM
Just 3 more days until I am crowned 1st Runner-Up.
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: Olimar12345 on October 31, 2014, 12:20:59 AM
The poll will close later today, so get those last votes in!
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: Yugi on October 31, 2014, 05:18:52 AM
btw olimar I can still judge

its just that I haven;t had time to listen to the songs
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: Olimar12345 on October 31, 2014, 06:00:23 AM
...I have been pm-ing you... If you PM me ASAP with your scores I'll still count it.
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: Olimar12345 on October 31, 2014, 07:14:55 PM
HAPPY HALLOWEEN! As promised, here are the ghoulish entries and their scores. This was a tough one, so don't feel discouraged if you didn't take home the gold! All entries were formidable, and I wish I could give you all first place!

The grading for this contest was done by a simple, "Who can get the most points" system. In no specific order:

The Popular Vote:

-Bloop ("Toad Tomb")------------------------------------------------------ +10 pts
-MaestroUGC ("Stranded - Night on the Distant Planet")---------------- +5 pts
-NocturneOfShadow ("Lament of the Legendary Hero")----------------- +2.5 pts
-SlowPokemon ("The Blood-Stained Peaks of Froenborg")-------------- +7.5 pts


The Formatting:

-Bloop ("Toad Tomb")------------------------------------------------------ +17.5 pts
-MaestroUGC ("Stranded - Night on the Distant Planet")---------------- +18.5 pts
-NocturneOfShadow ("Lament of the Legendary Hero")----------------- +2.5 pts
-SlowPokemon ("The Blood-Stained Peaks of Froenborg")-------------- +17 pts


The Orchestration:

-Bloop ("Toad Tomb")------------------------------------------------------ +16 pts
-MaestroUGC ("Stranded - Night on the Distant Planet")---------------- +19 pts
-NocturneOfShadow ("Lament of the Legendary Hero")----------------- +11 pts
-SlowPokemon ("The Blood-Stained Peaks of Froenborg")-------------- +11 pts


The Criteria:

-Bloop ("Toad Tomb")------------------------------------------------------ +20 pts
-MaestroUGC ("Stranded - Night on the Distant Planet")---------------- +14 pts
-NocturneOfShadow ("Lament of the Legendary Hero")----------------- +8 pts
-SlowPokemon ("The Blood-Stained Peaks of Froenborg")-------------- +13 pts


The Preservation:

-Bloop ("Toad Tomb")------------------------------------------------------ +20 pts
-MaestroUGC ("Stranded - Night on the Distant Planet")---------------- +20 pts
-NocturneOfShadow ("Lament of the Legendary Hero")----------------- +14 pts
-SlowPokemon ("The Blood-Stained Peaks of Froenborg")-------------- +17 pts


And Finally, The Creativity:

-Bloop ("Toad Tomb")------------------------------------------------------ +16 pts
-MaestroUGC ("Stranded - Night on the Distant Planet")---------------- +16 pts
-NocturneOfShadow ("Lament of the Legendary Hero")----------------- +7 pts
-SlowPokemon ("The Blood-Stained Peaks of Froenborg")-------------- +5 pts




...



...drum roll....



...




"Toad Tomb" by Bloop takes first place, with a total of 99.5 pts!

"Stranded - Night on the Distant Planet" by MaestroUGC comes in a CLOSE second, with a total of 92.5 pts.

"The Blood-Stained Peaks of Froenborg" by SlowPokemon takes third place, with a total of 70.5 pts.

"Lament of the Legendary Hero" by NocturneOfShadow comes in fourth place, with a total of 45 pts.


Congratulations to all participants! I look forward to seeing you all (and many more) for our next contest!






The individual scoring can be read below (arrangers, be sure to check out the comments!):

Echo's scoring
"Toad Tomb"

Orchestration: 10
Preservation: 10
Creativity: 7
Criteria: 10
Formatting: 9.5

Comments: Nice arrangement, brah. Really nailed the "spooky" theme of the contest (good use of dynamics in particular), and the song choice was interesting.

"Stranded - Night on the Distant Planet"

Orchestration: 10
Preservation: 10
Creativity: 8
Criteria: 9
Formatting: 9.5

Comments: I like the use of contrasting moods at the start of the arrangement, with a lighter tone descending into a darker one. Very clever concept, since it makes the suspenseful parts stand out more. However, for the purpose of making the song "scary" overall, I felt that the uplifting parts later into the song were unnecessary and go against that theme, and that it'd be more effective without them. That's just my personal taste, though.

"Lament of the Legendary Hero"

Orchestration: 5
Preservation: 10
Creativity: 4
Criteria: 5
Formatting: 1.5

Comments: I think more focus on dynamics in particular would've helped to convey more fright in this arrangement. For example, crescendos or diminuendos could gradually build unease, or sudden fortissimos could make the listener jump, and so on. The pedal could be used to make "ghostly" sounding notes and such. Basically, I'd say to think about how to play the notes in addition to what notes to play. I find that kind of stuff especially important for a solo instrument arrangement, since you don't have the advantage of having a bunch of different kinds of sounds like you would in an arrangement with multiple instruments.

Besides that, try to remember to follow the formatting stuff, since you'd be getting a load of easy points if you do.

"The Blood-Stained Peaks of Froenborg"

Orchestration: 8
Preservation: 10
Creativity: 4
Criteria: 8
Formatting: 10

Comments: While it does sound nice, I feel like it's still too similar to the original piece. Stuff like more tempo changes, dramatic dynamics, or even unique phrases could've spiced it up a bit more. Also, it's kinda sad that the oboe and timpani players only play for four measures and then peace out, haha.
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Olimar12345's scoring
"Lament of the Legendary Hero" by NocturneOfShadow

1) Orchestration: Writing for a solo instrument is a perfectly fine idea for this contest, so don’t let the other submissions get you down on that regard. Your piece actually sits rather well for piano, in my opinion. Never does anything you have written go outside the abilities of a pianist, and that is a good thing. Though, don’t be afraid to demand a little more from your soloist!
Score: 6/10

2) Preservation: Interestingly, you preserved the melody rather fine. The whole piece was rather skeletal (no Halloween pun, I swear), so it was unclear at times how you wanted it to sound.
Score: 4/10

3) Creativity: The piece was obviously different from the original in more than just and orchestration stand-point. Though, you could have been more creative with it over all. The lack of clear harmonies at times would have worked much better (in y opinion) if you utilized a clear plan with your dynamics, or something. When the piece is over I feel like I am still experiencing a piece “in-progress.”
Score: 3/10

4) Criteria: This goes mostly with what I said about the creativity. An abundance of ambiguity and lack of direction really set you back in establishing the mood, or any mood, really. I do understand that this is all new for you, though. Unfortunately for you, I have to hold you to the same standards that I am holding everyone else. Don’t be discouraged! You are well on your way here!
Score: 3/10

5) Formatting: Unfortunately, formatting was your biggest downfall. Before I can even harp on the lack of witten dynamics and articulation, I must address the fact that I can’t even tell who wrote this! No composer/arranger names? Ouch. Easy points, if you ask me. Other things to consider:
-Measure numbers would make it easier to rehearse.
-Many times the accidentals you choose are enharmonically harder to read. Remember your harmonies, and that for chromatic passages sharps go up and flats go down!
-Tempo changes are usually additionally marked with a double bar line. This makes them stand out when reading.
-I find it odd that each system reminds me that this is a piano solo, when that is obvious due to the lack of other instruments d:
Score: 1/10

Final Score:  17/50

"Stranded - Night on the Distant Planet" by MaestroUGC

1) Orchestration: Nice job. You made the decision to use an orchestra and stuck with it. Just watch that low tenor trombone though.
Score: 9/10

2) Preservation: Very clear. There was never a question about the theme(s).
Score: 10/10

3) Creativity: Quite creative! I loved how cinematic the piece felt. I think it could have used a little more direction, though (with the form and the organization of your ideas).
Score: 8/10

4) Criteria: Yes and no. You went a bit farther than just “spookifying” it, and told a story. It was a great tale, but in a sense it didn’t really feel spooky or scary. Not to belittle the big ominous moments, (especially 55, 111) but it didn’t leave me with the impression of a spooky or grim tale in accordance to the theme at hand. A good story has a focused conflict and a resolution, which yours had, but that didn’t set it apart from any other tale or fable. So what makes this a scary story?
Score: 5/10

5) Formatting: The formatting is correct. Do watch out for little copy/paste nesciences, though (ex: horn 1 and flute at 96). A suggestion would be to use a bigger size paper. 8.5/11 will be too small to make out anything that tiny.
9/10
Score: 41/50

Final Score: 

"Toad Tomb" by Bloop

1) Orchestration: You were the only one to incorporate the voice, and glockenspiel, and I thought they served this theme well! Though, you did tend to get up there in your voice at times. C6 is a good ceiling for the voice in my opinion. Also, your timpani and harp writing could use some work.
Score: 6/10

2) Preservation: Spot on. There was never a doubt.
Score: 10/10

3) Creativity: Good work. Excellent job! Props to measure 63. The forte worked exceptionally well because of the way you set it up.
Score: 9/10

4) Criteria: Spot on! In a sense, this was a repeat of the first contest we did, in which the objective was to inverse the mood to (in this case) a Halloween theme.
Score: 10/10

5) Formatting: Everything required is there. At times your staves are pretty close; I’d utilize some of that extra page space, especially at this font size. Also, you could have been more clear to your triangle player on what the three different notation styles meant.
Score: 8/10

Final Score:  43/50

"The Blood-Stained Peaks of Froenborg" by SlowPokemon

1) Orchestration: I really wish you would have finished this piece. The way it stands, the orchestration is rather thin, with most instruments only playing one or two times. Condensed for only, say, five instruments, this would make a nice little quintet. I also wanted to mention a couple other things:
-The piano voicings from measures 9-16 are oddly inconsistent. Sometimes you have four voices, and sometimes you have three. Try to think about the individual lines when writing things like this.
-The chimes are played by striking the top edges with a hammer. Unlike other three or four mallet percussion instruments, it would not be practical to play chords of more than two notes (one hammer per hand). Since you are always doubling one tone in octaves, it would be a quick fix.
Score: 3/10

2) Preservation: The preservation is fine. You’ve written it out to play one time through the tune, it would seem.
Score: 7/10

3) Creativity: You have a creative ensemble choice, but as for creativity, you could have done much more (I was really hoping that you would develop that figure in the second violin at the beginning). Aside from some odd harmonic changes and instrumentation, there really isn’t too much “new” material here.
Score: 1/10

4) Criteria: The instrumentation served you well here. Very soft and eerie. Like I have said already, you could have done so much more.
Score: 5/10

5) Formatting: For the most part, it was good. There were a few spots of interest, though:
-Your diminuendos are colliding with other things like staves and fermatas. Also, they should be underneath the staff they apply to. (Adjust the distance between staves if this is an issue)
-You don’t have to mark the strings’ lines with “arco” before they play. Only mark pizzicato and then arco when they are returning to the bow.
-For punctuating percussion instruments (or for instruments being used as such) provide a specific dynamic for every entrance.
Score: 7/10

Final Score:  23/50
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Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 31, 2014, 07:30:55 PM
Congrats Bloop and Maestro! And nice work, Nocturne, I'm sure you'll only get better! It was a lot of fun to have a contest where all of the competition was so enjoyable I can't even be mad about it XD

I really appreciate all the comments that both Echo and Olimar gave me! But I take serious offense to the fact that Olimar gave me 1/10 for creativity. You seriously don't think that was too harsh? You make it sound like I put no effort into the piece whatsoever???

Don't get me wrong, this isn't about the competition; I'm taking offense as a musician here. Most of your comments are appreciated and noted, but the creativity I put into this is more than 1/10. I also don't get how I could have preserved the piece any better (didn't you complain it was too similar to the original?), or why my criteria is so low...didn't I make it sound creepy? Was it just not creepy enough? I don't really mind being marked so low for the orchestration, though--I wrote it how I wanted to sound, which resulted in some unorthodox notation. I originally had just two notes at a time on the chimes, but it didn't give the sound that I wanted. As a final thing idk what led you to believe the piece was unfinished, that was my completed arrangement.

Either way though I'm still really pleased with this contest overall, it was much more fun than I anticipated.
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: Bloop on October 31, 2014, 08:26:45 PM
YAY I WON

Great job everybody! I agree of this competition :3
Group hug ;D?

Also, although I do agree that 1/10 for slow's creativity is a bit low, it seemed that the arrangement was based around the melody with some dissonant chords. There's a lot could've been added :p
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: SlowPokemon on October 31, 2014, 08:58:17 PM
Oh, no worries! Olimar explained his reasoning to me in a few PMs which I appreciated so there's no problem ^_^ I'M ALL FOR THE GROUP HUG CONGRATS BLOOP
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: mikey on October 31, 2014, 09:01:01 PM
I still did better than the three who quit :/
*sits in corner and hugs consolation prize*
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: Bloop on October 31, 2014, 09:01:05 PM
YAY GROUP HUG
Don't worry nocturne you'll get an addition hug :D
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: MaestroUGC on November 01, 2014, 04:58:21 AM
And once again I was robbed of a clear victory.

Though I can't complain as for
1:This was the result of working on it for about a week, and
2: This wasn't my original plan because Olimar vetoed it.

Congrats, though, bloop, yours was really well done. It fooled me into thinking it was actually in the game. Not really, but damn did it sound right.
Title: Re: Arrangement Contest No. 4
Post by: Bloop on November 01, 2014, 08:55:25 AM
Yay thanks :D
Do you wanna go in the group hug too? :3