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This should be a thing.
(And happy 9th anniversary Blue/Red Rescue Team!)
God we already have three versions of that game though, I'd rather another new 3DS PMD if anything
I kinda thought the same thing too Slow, haha! Why remake a remake?
(It would be cool though if they gave Rescue Team an "expansion" though, like with Sky. Too many unanswered plotholes!)
I mean don't get me wrong whatever the next PMD is I'll get it haha. Also it should be noted that "primal" forms of Kyogre and Groudon have nothing to do with PMD and should not be taken in any way as being a hint or relationship.
3 Primal Legendaries
You know what that means >:]
Quote from: SlowPokemon on November 24, 2014, 10:49:32 AMI mean don't get me wrong whatever the next PMD is I'll get it haha. Also it should be noted that "primal" forms of Kyogre and Groudon have nothing to do with PMD and should not be taken in any way as being a hint or relationship.
Speaking of such, I wonder if Dialga/Palkia
will have Primal Reversions in the potential future Diamond and Pearl remakes (or if they'll just give them Mega Evolutions).
It's been three days since the Ruby and Sapphire remakes bds
illumi not e
'Tis the season for remakes, falalalala, la lala la.
Quote from: zoroark1264 on November 24, 2014, 10:56:06 PMillumi not e
Wut?
Quote from: SlowPokemon on November 24, 2014, 10:42:23 PMIt's been three days since the Ruby and Sapphire remakes bds
Quotepotential future
Quotepotential future
Quotepotential future
Quotepotential future
QuoteYour friend is heartbroken...A true friend, a friend for life...You finally realize it now...If you wish, and wish very strongly...Perhaps you will meet again GET A REMAKE"
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on November 25, 2014, 12:43:40 AM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on November 24, 2014, 10:42:23 PMIt's been three days since the Ruby and Sapphire remakes bds
QuoteIt's been three days
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Do I need to use larger text, because...
Spoiler
The Pokémon fandom is unbelievable
BDS, idk if you realize this, but there are no guarantees that we will even see remakes of those games, seeing as you can still play them on 3DS. Granted the graphical update would be nice, but tbh there wouldn't be much merit in it for GF. Not a lot of people liked Gen 4 as much as the previous games. In fact, it's most commonly at the bottom of people's rankings of each gen.
Am I saying that they won't make Gen 4 remakes? No, but I wouldn't set my hopes too high. If anything I'd rather they make Gen 1 in the new style (as unlikely as that would probably be.)
sorry but no, we don't need ANOTHER gen 1 remake
I doubt we'll get much of anymore Pokemon remakes. All regions are available on the DS, pretty much.
Quote from: K-NiGhT on November 25, 2014, 11:56:00 AMBDS, idk if you realize this, but there are no guarantees that we will even see remakes of those games, seeing as you can still play them on 3DS. Granted the graphical update would be nice, but tbh there wouldn't be much merit in it for GF. Not a lot of people liked Gen 4 as much as the previous games. In fact, it's most commonly at the bottom of people's rankings of each gen.
I don't think you realize what the definition of "potential" is. :P
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on November 25, 2014, 03:41:15 PMI don't think you realize what the definition of "potential" is. :P
What we're saying is why are you even talking about potential remakes yet
Quote from: SlowPokemon on November 25, 2014, 04:40:44 PMWhat we're saying is why are you even talking about potential remakes yet
Well, why not? It's nothing more than fun speculation.
I just had an idea for an "expansion" of Gates to Infinity.
Spoiler
When you're partner wishes you back to PokéEarth at the Hill of Universal Order, was I the only one to say NO to going back, just to see what would happen? I was quite surprised to find that the game didn't pull a "thou shalt say yes" move. Unfortunately, it made me feel like a total jerk. It didn't dawn on me until now that if you say NO, you essentially KILL your partner, because the cave was collapsing and your partner was putting himself in mortal jeopardy by making the wish. There are actually crashing noises when your "vision" withdraws after saying no, to boot.
So what if they made a special episode about it? You're a heartless jerk, never to return. Your partner's dead. Hydreigon revives himself (being a spirit) and tells everyone the grim news. Everyone loses hope. The Bittercold returns. Lots of post-game yaaaay!
That sounds dark as hell and I love it.
I considered pressing no but I decided not to
I'm the type of person who tries every answer to see what will happen.
It took me a LOOOOOOONG time to get the bottle from that girl on windfall island.
Dear god, they're not seriously making ANOTHER Pokemon, are they? I mean, really, didn't they just release two two weeks ago!
How about you read a topic before making seriously stupid assumptions and comments kthx
I don't like ThatGamer, he's taking my spotlight
Quote from: ThatGamer on December 23, 2014, 05:00:48 PMDear god, they're not seriously making ANOTHER Pokemon, are they? I mean, really, didn't they just release two two weeks ago!
How about you read the topic first? :P
EDIT: Oops, well, uh, ninja'd?
I assure you, I read the topic. And every comment, too.
Well then if you did you'd know that we aren't even talking about a main series Pokemon game; we're talking about the Mystery Dungeon spin-off series. Also, ORAS has been out for over a month now. Not to mention it's been a solid year or two since the last Mystery Dungeon title. ALSO, no one even made any mention of there being a new game in the works. It's all just speculation and wishlists.
Quote from: ThatGamer on December 23, 2014, 06:13:39 PMI assure you, I read the topic. And every comment, too.
my ass
Methinks your reading comprehension skills need some adjustment.
I still want a PMD game for gen 6... I just hope they kinda realize their mistakes that they did with Gates to Infinity with the limited starter choice, Pokedex, no post game, no personality quiz...
Why were any of those things mistakes tho
Quote from: K-NiGhT on December 23, 2014, 06:40:15 PMWell then if you did you'd know that we aren't even talking about a main series Pokemon game; we're talking about the Mystery Dungeon spin-off series. Also, ORAS has been out for over a month now. Not to mention it's been a solid year or two since the last Mystery Dungeon title. ALSO, no one even made any mention of there being a new game in the works. It's all just speculation and wishlists.
my ass
Wow, I make one mistake, and you guys are bitches about it. Very nice.
I knew the last Mystery Dungeon was a year ago, and ORAS about one month.
Don't point out my mistakes, unless it has to do with arrangements, it just pisses me off.
ThatGamer, you are in a topic that caters heavily to Pokemon fans. Since you're still new to the forums, you haven't really gained a reputation for sarcasm or joking yet, so this quote could easily piss off fans. Just try to watch how you say things and try to consider how others might interpret it.
Quote from: ThatGamer on December 23, 2014, 05:00:48 PMDear god, they're not seriously making ANOTHER Pokemon, are they? I mean, really, didn't they just release two two weeks ago!
Quote from: SlowPokemon on December 23, 2014, 07:51:24 PMWhy were any of those things mistakes tho
It took away the experience for me. I enjoyed doing the personality quiz and having a wide choice of starters to pick from.
Quote from: ThatGamer on December 23, 2014, 07:56:47 PMWow, I make one mistake, and you guys are bitches about it. Very nice.
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Quote from: Nebbles on December 23, 2014, 08:12:18 PMIt took away the experience for me. I enjoyed doing the personality quiz and having a wide choice of starters to pick from.
True but they also had simple 2D sprites for the Pokémon in the originals compared to full 3D models in GTI which takes a lot more data
Also im laughing really hard at dude and olimar
Fair enough, and the 3D did really look beautiful... but I do miss that stuff a lot and it makes the PMD experience really full for me.
@dude and olimar you beautiful human beings
Wait...are Dude and Olimar12345 implying...ANIME POKEMON CONFIRMED!!!
With every post you make, I groan even more than usual.
Quote from: ThatGamer on December 24, 2014, 08:40:12 AMWait...are Dude and Olimar12345 implying...ANIME POKEMON CONFIRMED!!!
wut
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someone needs to bring up that "for it to be a joke, it has to be funny" post in relation to this
Quote from: Olimar12345 on December 24, 2014, 08:55:12 AMwut
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aha I knew that would come in handy
Quote from: Nebbles on December 24, 2014, 08:59:02 AMsomeone needs to bring up that "for it to be a joke, it has to be funny" post in relation to this
I gotchu nebbs
thanks nocturne, good job
Quote from: Dude on December 24, 2014, 08:46:41 AMWith every post you make, I groan even more than usual.
This.
Quote from: Nebbles on December 24, 2014, 08:59:02 AMsomeone needs to bring up that "for it to be a joke, it has to be funny" post in relation to this
I made that post at like 1 AM on a whim when I was really tired and completely forgot about it but everyone else brings it up all the time
ITS NOT EVEN TRUE JOKES CAN BE NOT FUNNY AND STILL BE JOKES
Did I ever say this was a joke?
[Internal screaming]
It's okay just think about Minccino
ok im good now
fluffyfluffyfluffyminccino
n07 H3LP1NG 4GH 1M G0NN4 R1P 0U7 M3 3Y3B4LLZ
fluffyfluffyfluffycinccino
//sigh
pls thatgamer pls
Quote from: SlowPokemon on December 24, 2014, 09:42:35 AMI made that post at like 1 AM on a whim when I was really tired and completely forgot about it but everyone else brings it up all the time
ITS NOT EVEN TRUE JOKES CAN BE NOT FUNNY AND STILL BE JOKES
that is true but that quote is still beautiful slow and we'll never let you forget it
Omg omg
I'm confused with this conversation, so, I'm gonna just leave you girls to your quarrelling, and exit before I cause trouble.
You already did that, and antagonizing people further isn't going to earn you any points with the community.
Quote from: ThatGamer on December 24, 2014, 01:28:37 PMI'm confused with this conversation, so, I'm gonna just leave you girls to your quarrelling, and exit before I cause trouble.
so i guess im a girl now ok
Quote from: K-NiGhT on December 24, 2014, 01:36:37 PMYou already did that, and antagonizing people further isn't going to earn you any points with the community.
^
Quote from: zoroark1264 on December 24, 2014, 01:40:50 PMso i guess im a girl now ok
of course you are, don't you remember the law?
So I just looked up mincinno and that is exactly what a gray fluffy rodent pokemon is.
Quote from: ThatGamer on December 24, 2014, 01:28:37 PMI'm confused with this conversation, so, I'm gonna just leave you girls to your quarrelling, and exit before I cause trouble.
Last time I checked, I'm the only girl in this conversation.
You're not helping your already less than stellar rep in the community, you know.
ThatGamer, what have you done to my beautiful thread... *sob*
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So sorry, Bespinben. Let's get back on topic about PMD remakes.
Oh whoops
Let's get this train back on the rails
Wait do I have to be a girl too
I have short hair isn't that against the law
Quote from: Bespinben on December 24, 2014, 01:54:49 PMThatGamer, what have you done to my beautiful thread... *sob*
you made bespinben cry
prepare for destruction
Keep conversing.
Quote from: SlowPokemon on December 24, 2014, 02:08:04 PMWait do I have to be a girl too
I have short hair isn't that against the law
be a rebel
HOLY CRAP, YA'LL REMEMBER THE
METEOR THAT WAS GOING TO DESTROY THE PLANET IN PMD BLUE/RED RESCUE TEAM!?!?!?
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Warning: MAJOR Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire Spoilers:
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http://www.reddit.com/r/pokemonconspiracies/comments/2pu6rj/the_meteor_from_orass_delta_episode_was_present/
ORAS itself implies that the original R/S/E are still canon, they just take place in an alternative timeline where Mega Evolution and Fairy type don't exist. In the delta episode, when met with danger, the Mosdeep Space Center attempt to simply teleport the meteor to a different part of space and time. They aren't sure where it will land, but it will land far enough away from them that it won't interfere with them again.
Zinnia, meanwhile collects keystones to try and summon Mega Rayquaza to destroy the meteor in a manner that won't affect any other worlds that "may not have the technology" to deal with the situation.
In the end, it turns out that the ORAS protagonist is destined to command Rayquaza to destroy the meteor.
It seems like a straightforward plot until you look into it a bit more.
First of all, what caused this meteor to set path for Hoenn in ORAS but not RSE? The answer is simple, another meteor DID set path for RSE Hoenn, you, the RSE protagonist were just not the one to save it.
In RSE, a major difference is that after retrieving the Meteorite from Team Aqua/Magma, you return it to Professor Cozmo. In ORAS you hold onto it. The scientists wish to use said meteorite's energy to teleport it elsewhere. In RSE, since Cozmo already had the meteorite, you were never called over to the space station. Instead, they succeeded in their plans to teleport the meteor somewhere else.
Why didn't Zinna intervene? Simple, with no mega Rayquaza, she wouldn't be able to change anything. In Emerald, you've already battled Rayquaza by this point and in Ruby and Sapphire Rayquaza sits atop a destroyed Sky Pillar implying that Zinna may have already attempted to destroy it but fail due to Rayquaza being unable to mega evolve.
So what did happen to the meteor the RSE Hoenn teleported away?
Simple, it went to a place nobody expected it to go to. The Pokemon Mystery Dungeon world.
For those not familiar with Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Blue/Red rescue team, you are a human turned Pokemon destined to save the Pokemon world... from a falling meteor about to impact and destroy the world... Sound familiar? It should do. You scaled Sky Tower to meet Rayquaza atop the clouds who's power you utilise to destroy the meteor. Here's the ending of the main plot of that game for anyone curious.
With your roll as a Pokemon fulfilled you start heading back to your human life until you beg to whatever deity to let you stay a Pokemon.
You know, you never hear the Hoenn protagonist referenced in any games that take place in the future, it's like he went to a completely different world and was forgotten about...
Now I know what you're thinking. Just a coincidence, right? Maybe but an even deeper connection is made. In ORAS, we discover that a Deoxys was intentionally steering that meteor into Hoenn. In post game PMD, a dungeon forms where the broken meteor fragments landed called Meteor Cave... at the bottom of which is a Deoxys which was implied to have been inside that meteor. When Deoxys awakes, it seems very confused as to where it is, almost as if it went off course. You can see that here.
It is of my opinion that the human who got turned into a Pokemon in PMD was the RSE protagonist a short time after all the events of RSE unfolded. Your destiny to destroy that meteor was hard coded across all universes. No matter where it was going to land, fate would make sure you were there to stop it. Therefore you were transformed into a Pokemon to chase after it.
Internet, I love you.
eehh
Ehhhh
Hmmm.
Where is your soul!?
(I've freaking wanted this sort of explanation for how the PMD world and the Pokémon world relate for nearly a DECADE now)
Well, I think it's pretty interesting.
I thought zinnia didn't exist in the other timeline
There's nothing saying she doesn't. Literally every other character exists in the alternate Hoenn, so who's to say Zinnia is the only one that doesn't?
I think it's definitely a cool and interesting way of looking at it.
I rather like that theory, even if it's totally baseless and unofficial.
Funny thing is, I had this idea brewing in my own head of ORAS relating to PMD before finding this theory. Except, in my brain, I had the idea of "what if Zinnia in ORAS let them teleport the meteor? what if Pokémon pulled a Ocarina of Time 3-way timeline split (that is, the 3rd "what if Link failed his quest", ergo "what if Zinnia didn't intervene"). Unfortunately, in my idea and the Zelda chronology, that timeline cannot co-exist with any others, whereas in this theory, they CAN co-exist. And that is a beautiful thing.
I still think they can think of a better Zelda timeline.
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Wow, someone else came to that conclusion as well?
My version is even more baseless, though. I kinda feel like Zinnia is the pokemon from PMD and a whismur was somehow her partner. Look at how she treats Aster. Now look at how I treated my partner the first time I replayed the game. "Oh Squirt, you are the most wonderful pokemon. I will protect you from everything and nobody will ever hurt you ever again."
Also, lament of fallen stars sound kind of like Don't ever forget in some parts.
I dunno, but that's the feeling that I got. :P