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Title: [NDS] Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - "The Steel Samurai" by McDucky
Post by: Zeta on January 29, 2015, 09:35:55 AM
Submission Information:

Series: Other
Game: Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
Console: Nintendo DS
Title: The Steel Samurai
Instrumentation Solo Piano
Arranger: McDucky (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?action=profile;u=4015)

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Title: Re: [GBA] Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - "The Steel Samurai" by McDucky
Post by: Maelstrom on January 29, 2015, 09:47:01 AM
You probably want to double check this.....
The formatting is just downright bad in places.
I'm 100% positive measure 5 needs reworked.
Title: Re: [GBA] Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - "The Steel Samurai" by McDucky
Post by: McDucky on January 30, 2015, 04:22:55 PM
Quote from: Maelstrom on January 29, 2015, 09:47:01 AMThe formatting is just downright bad in places.
More specifically? 
I have updated the sheet. Some of the formatting was fixed, some measures corrected and the L.H rythm adjusted in places to match the original.
Title: Re: [GBA] Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - "The Steel Samurai" by McDucky
Post by: Maelstrom on January 30, 2015, 06:15:42 PM
Quote from: McDucky on January 30, 2015, 04:22:55 PMMore specifically? 
measure 28: Use L to flip note stems
30: Use / to break barring over rest
In  quite a few places, the notes are squashed. I find that clicking on the measure(s) with a note of a high value and Ctrl+U fixes it pretty well.
Also, in places like measure 22+24, you need to delete the first lower note and re-input it so that it lines up properly.
Title: Re: [GBA] Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - "The Steel Samurai" by McDucky
Post by: McDucky on January 31, 2015, 04:17:15 AM
Thank you, I don't have much experience with Finale  :-\     
Edit: And it seems the .mus file here didn't update properly. Writing sheets in Finale 2014 means having to export them to 2012 files, which gets confusing
Title: Re: [GBA] Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - "The Steel Samurai" by McDucky
Post by: Maelstrom on February 04, 2015, 01:25:16 PM
Much better. Measure 5 still sounds a bit off, but it might just be me. Now there are a few note beaming issues. You know, just making sure the beat always visible. Shouldn't take too much work.
Title: Re: [GBA] Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - "The Steel Samurai" by McDucky
Post by: McDucky on February 05, 2015, 05:56:32 AM
Measure 5 is based on the original SDAT data, so it should be right.
I changed/fixed some beams, but my knowledge when it comes to proper formating is limited. 
I also respelled the chord in measure 25 to a C7 instead of F♭ flat5 aug5
Title: Re: [GBA] Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - "The Steel Samurai" by McDucky
Post by: Maelstrom on February 05, 2015, 07:40:23 AM
How's this?
[.mus] (https://www.dropbox.com/s/xq87ff28xdn477o/steelsamurai%20%283%29.mus?dl=0)
Just changed the formatting and measure 5.
Title: Re: [GBA] Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - "The Steel Samurai" by McDucky
Post by: McDucky on February 05, 2015, 10:22:38 AM
Quote from: Maelstrom on February 05, 2015, 07:40:23 AMHow's this?
Seems about right.
Is there a reason for the sforzando to not be an accent?
Title: Re: [GBA] Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - "The Steel Samurai" by McDucky
Post by: Maelstrom on February 05, 2015, 10:36:33 AM
No, not really. It's a strong accent that applies to both staves. It's just simply a stylistic choice.
Title: Re: [GBA] Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - "The Steel Samurai" by McDucky
Post by: Bespinben on February 05, 2015, 10:46:21 AM
Some cross-stave notation would work wonders with measure 21-24. Some sustain pedal too.
(Seeing as you have Finale 2014 this should be possible for you!)
Title: Re: [GBA] Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - "The Steel Samurai" by McDucky
Post by: McDucky on February 05, 2015, 12:36:42 PM
Quote from: Maelstrom on February 05, 2015, 10:36:33 AMNo, not really. It's a strong accent that applies to both staves. It's just simply a stylistic choice.
I see. Having both sfz and mf next to eachother looks a bit cluttered, so I changed it to an accent.

Quote from: Bespinben on February 05, 2015, 10:46:21 AMSome cross-stave notation would work wonders with measure 21-24. Some sustain pedal too.
(Seeing as you have Finale 2014 this should be possible for you!)
I didn't even know cross-staff notation was a thing! It sure looks better when it's all connected and without the rests underneath the notes.
Not sure how I do sustain properly  :-[
I changed the tempo to match the original, which is exactly 140 BPM; quite fast.
Title: Re: [NDS] Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - "The Steel Samurai" by McDucky
Post by: Bespinben on March 28, 2015, 11:29:03 PM
*Measure 1-4 should be big full chords in the OST
*M. 5-8 ~ The way you interpret the LH percussion line as being "Eb-Bb" is questionable in my mind, as the key is C minor. If anything, just use some combination of quartal tones derived from Cmsus7 (C, D, F, G, Bb) to keep the tonality ambiguous until m. 13.
*M. 8-10 ~ I think the original octave register of some of these melody lines were different in the OST, unless you decided this was intentional for playability.
*M. 14 ~ Rhythm grouping in the RH. That "D" quarter note just before beat 3 needs to be an eighth-tied-eighth.
*M. 26 ~ That "F" on beat 3.5 in the RH doesn't need to be tied. Just a dotted quarter will suffice.

Just a general feeling... could you make this more "piano-y"? Right now it kind of feels like just notes on a piece of paper. A lot of factors could play into this, but I think if you address m. 1-4 and m. 5-8 well, that should cover a lot of ground.
Title: Re: [NDS] Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - "The Steel Samurai" by McDucky
Post by: Bespinben on June 19, 2015, 03:16:27 PM
McDucky, are you able to fix this soon? I've been deleting a lot of inactive submissions recently, but since I know you're usually around, I want to give your song a chance.
Title: Re: [NDS] Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - "The Steel Samurai" by McDucky
Post by: McDucky on June 21, 2015, 02:50:17 AM
Quote from: Bespinben on June 19, 2015, 03:16:27 PMMcDucky, are you able to fix this soon? I've been deleting a lot of inactive submissions recently, but since I know you're usually around, I want to give your song a chance.
I'll try!
The version here is actually outdated. I'll tweak the score and update it
Title: Re: [NDS] Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - "The Steel Samurai" by McDucky
Post by: Bespinben on July 16, 2015, 02:06:30 PM
Thanks for the tweaks! I believe this is acceptable on the arranging end of things now.

Measure distribution always seems to be a common trip-up for some reason though. I did a little formatting work, making most of the song 4 measures per system, and the part with the 16th runs as 2 measures per system:

[MIDI] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35209091/Ace%20Attorney%20-%20Steel%20Samurai.mid) [MUS] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35209091/Ace%20Attorney%20-%20Steel%20Samurai.mus) [PDF] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35209091/Ace%20Attorney%20-%20Steel%20Samurai.pdf) [MUSX] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35209091/Ace%20Attorney%20-%20Steel%20Samurai.musx)

Research the concept of "hypermeter" a bit. The majority of 4/4 compositions have 4 measure long phrases, and that often translates easily as a guide to how many measures you should put in a system. Of course, you modify as necessary, like I did with the 16th runs in this song.
Title: Re: [NDS] Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - "The Steel Samurai" by McDucky
Post by: Altissimo on July 16, 2015, 03:32:55 PM
Just thought I'd let you know that the PDF link actually links to the Midi, Bespinben. :p
Title: Re: [NDS] Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - "The Steel Samurai" by McDucky
Post by: Bespinben on July 16, 2015, 03:46:56 PM
Quote from: Altissimo on July 16, 2015, 03:32:55 PMJust thought I'd let you know that the PDF link actually links to the Midi, Bespinben. :p

Woops! Fixed now.
Title: Re: [NDS] Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - "The Steel Samurai" by McDucky
Post by: Maelstrom on July 16, 2015, 04:58:58 PM
I know this still isn't ninmidimusic, but you might want to check that midi again. It's got incorrect staccatos on 50%+ of the notes.
Title: Re: [NDS] Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - "The Steel Samurai" by McDucky
Post by: Bespinben on July 18, 2015, 12:02:40 AM
Quote from: Maelstrom on July 16, 2015, 04:58:58 PMI know this still isn't ninmidimusic, but you might want to check that midi again. It's got incorrect staccatos on 50%+ of the notes.

Huh. Well, the MUS file plays back fine. I guess the MIDI export is just trash along with the PDF export lol.
Title: Re: [NDS] Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - "The Steel Samurai" by McDucky
Post by: Zeta on July 18, 2015, 12:07:06 AM
This submission has been accepted by Bespinben (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2510).

~Zeta, your friendly NSM-Bot