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Title: Playing Piano
Post by: cashwarrior1 on March 07, 2015, 01:42:21 PM
I don't know why, but I feel like not everyone who posts music can play piano. I just have that feeling..
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Post by: MaestroUGC on March 07, 2015, 01:43:54 PM
I can't.
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Post by: Yugi on March 07, 2015, 01:51:28 PM
Playing the piano is my favorite video game.
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Post by: JDMEK5 on March 07, 2015, 03:12:29 PM
I used to have "Playing Piano" for DS but I lost it when my brother accidentally sold our house to a vending machine.
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Post by: cashwarrior1 on March 07, 2015, 03:21:58 PM
Lol.
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Post by: mikey on March 07, 2015, 05:19:05 PM
I actually don't know any music.  I copy all my stuff from google searches
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Post by: Contra on March 08, 2015, 11:36:04 PM
i've played the piano for over 10 years and i still suck at reading sheet music

guys help
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Post by: Sebastian on March 09, 2015, 08:11:05 AM
Work on your sight reading skills. Start at the level that you can read music with ease and work your way up. Sight reading is very important in piano playing.
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Post by: FireArrow on May 15, 2015, 10:20:36 PM
eww sight reading
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Post by: SlowPokemon on May 16, 2015, 12:59:17 PM
Sight reading >>>>>>
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Post by: Bubbles on May 16, 2015, 03:54:14 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on May 16, 2015, 12:59:17 PMSight reading >>>>>>
All I ever do is sight read lmao
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Post by: KefkaticFanatic on May 16, 2015, 04:14:57 PM
I was always pretty jealous of/impressed by my piano teacher, to whom I could just bring some random sheet printed off NSM and she'd just figure it out and play it for me right there when I asked for some help :o
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Post by: braix on May 16, 2015, 04:18:11 PM
Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on May 16, 2015, 04:14:57 PMI was always pretty jealous of/impressed by my piano teacher, who I could just bring some random sheet printed off NSM and she'd just figure it out and play it for me right there when I asked for some help :o
same lol
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Post by: Sebastian on May 17, 2015, 06:12:54 AM
Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on May 16, 2015, 04:14:57 PMI was always pretty jealous of/impressed by my piano teacher, to whom I could just bring some random sheet printed off NSM and she'd just figure it out and play it for me right there when I asked for some help :o
Jealous. My teacher doesn't really like video game music.....which is really stupid XD
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Post by: Tobbeh99 on May 17, 2015, 10:58:45 AM
Quote from: KefkaticFanatic on May 16, 2015, 04:14:57 PMI was always pretty jealous of/impressed by my piano teacher, to whom I could just bring some random sheet printed off NSM and she'd just figure it out and play it for me right there when I asked for some help :o

Y same here. He showed a couple of times that he could play Chopin etude op. 10 no.1, which he claimed was the hardest Chopin etude, and especially for him having somewhat small hands.

Quote from: mariolegofan on May 17, 2015, 06:12:54 AMJealous. My teacher doesn't really like video game music.....which is really stupid XD

Wow sad :-\. My teacher sometimes said that a certain songs didn't sound good on piano, or wasn't appropriate for piano, but otherwise kept a positive attitude towards video game music. 
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Post by: Pianist Da Sootopolis on June 19, 2015, 11:29:07 AM
(I know this topic is a month old but what the hell)
To practice sight reading, don't buy a sight reading book or anything that labels itself as a guide to sight reading.
What you need to be doing is reading through actual music, by real composers. Whether that's NSM sheets or classical music, doesn't really matter. But typically the sight reading books don't have near the amount of actual music to be worth doing. They're also boring as all hell, so there's that..
I personally started with Bach two part inventions for sight reading, Chopin mazurkas and sometimes nocturnes (the easier ones usually), easier Beethoven and Mozart works, Schumann's Album for the Young, and Clementi and Kuhlau sonatinas. There's plenty more you can use (more advanced stuff like Kinderszenen of Schumann, I use that a lot, and Brahms intermezzi), but that's my starter set XD
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Post by: Sebastian on June 19, 2015, 01:06:23 PM
I totally agree! NSM sheets and Classical are the best :P
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Post by: SlowPokemon on June 20, 2015, 10:32:59 AM
Actually, the best way to get better at sight reading is to play music you want to play. Classical music actually deters many people from being motivated to play more, which is the only way to acquire sight reading skills. So I wholeheartedly disagree with his recommendations.
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Post by: mikey on June 20, 2015, 11:57:31 AM
some people just aren't very good at sightreading and some are naturals
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Post by: Sebastian on June 20, 2015, 12:19:59 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on June 20, 2015, 10:32:59 AMActually, the best way to get better at sight reading is to play music you want to play. Classical music actually deters many people from being motivated to play more, which is the only way to acquire sight reading skills. So I wholeheartedly disagree with his recommendations.
This is also true.
I guess Classical and NSM sheets are my favorites.
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Post by: KefkaticFanatic on June 20, 2015, 12:21:47 PM
If you want to build technique, then what he recommends are essential.  There's a reason certain music is considered as exercises (Bach Inventions, Czerny School of Velocity, Hanon).  If you just want to become ok at playing basic tunes, then yea you can do whatever modern stuff you want.  It depends entirely on what your overall goals are.
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Post by: Pianist Da Sootopolis on June 20, 2015, 12:40:58 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on June 20, 2015, 10:32:59 AMActually, the best way to get better at sight reading is to play music you want to play. Classical music actually deters many people from being motivated to play more, which is the only way to acquire sight reading skills. So I wholeheartedly disagree with his recommendations.
Just as many people find video game music to be boring and repetitive. But technique was developed and changed in so many ways by those who wrote classical music that it is almost assuredly going to help you if you're practicing it and playing it the "right" way (several books and essays have been written on what this right way is, it's one of the most contested subjects in piano). The people who wrote classical music had far greater skill at the piano than most of our arrangers, I promise ;)
Also, how can you find stuff like this boring?
As Kefkatic mentioned, as well, it's dependent on your goals. It's like say, running. If you just want to be able to jog around your city a bit and not be tired out, doing your own thing is probably fine. But if you want to be able to run the Boston Marathon without breaking a sweat, you may consider reading about the physiology of running as well as working on your endurance, as it can give you all kinds of tips and tricks. Not the best analogy perhaps, but it has many of the same parallels.
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Post by: Bubbles on June 20, 2015, 12:58:57 PM
The most important thing is definitely enjoying yourself. Why do people even play instruments in the first place? It gives the player a sense of fulfillment and a "hey I did that!!" feeling when something turns out nice. When you're playing a tune from a video game that you already know and have attached emotions to, recreating that on the piano provides more enjoyment than playing a classical piece that is unfamiliar. Then that leads to more songs, which is ultimately more practice and learning different techniques without even realizing it.

Myself, I played classical music for 7 years before I drove myself crazy and quit. For the next two years I played solely what I wanted and improved more than in the previous 7. Now I'm back at classical again and actually appreciating it. What I'm saying is: don't force yourself to play a certain thing since everyone has their own motivating factors and will grow at different paces with different methods.
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Post by: Pianist Da Sootopolis on June 20, 2015, 01:02:57 PM
Quote from: Bubbles on June 20, 2015, 12:58:57 PMThe most important thing is definitely enjoying yourself. Why do people even play instruments in the first place? It gives the player a sense of fulfillment and a "hey I did that!!" feeling when something turns out nice. When you're playing a tune from a video game that you already know and have attached emotions to, recreating that on the piano provides more enjoyment than playing a classical piece that is unfamiliar. Then that leads to more songs, which is ultimately more practice and learning different techniques without even realizing it.

Myself, I played classical music for 7 years before I drove myself crazy and quit. For the next two years I played solely what I wanted and improved more than in the previous 7. Now I'm back at classical again and actually appreciating it. What I'm saying is: don't force yourself to play a certain thing since everyone has their own motivating factors and will grow at different paces with different methods.
Yes, but if you want to grow fast to achieve a goal like say, Chopin's G minor ballade (the piece everyone and their grandmother seems to want to play these days), then you would do well to pick pieces that suit your goal, as much as you may not like them. Let us also remember here, that the goal was how to become a better sight reader. Everyone has to eat their broccoli before going to desert, even if that desert is a pure chocolate protein bars (not much of a desert, those things are f***ing disgusting).
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Post by: Latios212 on June 20, 2015, 02:55:13 PM
Quote from: Bubbles on June 20, 2015, 12:58:57 PMThe most important thing is definitely enjoying yourself. Why do people even play instruments in the first place? It gives the player a sense of fulfillment and a "hey I did that!!" feeling when something turns out nice. When you're playing a tune from a video game that you already know and have attached emotions to, recreating that on the piano provides more enjoyment than playing a classical piece that is unfamiliar. Then that leads to more songs, which is ultimately more practice and learning different techniques without even realizing it.

This is me in a nutshell ^^ NSM is the sole reason I came back to piano after stopping lessons.
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Post by: Sebastian on June 20, 2015, 02:58:44 PM
Quote from: Latios212 on June 20, 2015, 02:55:13 PMNSM is the sole reason I came back to piano after stopping lessons.
That's awesome! I still play piano because of NSM.
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Post by: Hero of Trains on June 20, 2015, 03:02:23 PM
NSM is why I'm considering taking lessons. :P
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Post by: Sebastian on June 20, 2015, 03:03:54 PM
I'd give you some if you lived around here. I'm giving my friend some piano lessons right now.
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Post by: JDMEK5 on June 20, 2015, 03:04:10 PM
NSM is why I'm going into music in university in the fall.
Quote from: Hero of Trains on June 20, 2015, 03:02:23 PMNSM is why I'm considering taking lessons. :P
Aye. Do that.
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Post by: Pianist Da Sootopolis on June 20, 2015, 03:34:20 PM
Quote from: Hero of Trains on June 20, 2015, 03:02:23 PMNSM is why I'm considering taking lessons. :P
Do it. It's well worth the $$ if you get the right teacher, and a good teacher can help you more than any youtube video can  :D
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Post by: Dudeman on June 20, 2015, 04:13:44 PM
(or you could hire one of us XDDDD)
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Post by: Pianist Da Sootopolis on June 20, 2015, 04:16:40 PM
Quote from: Dudeman on June 20, 2015, 04:13:44 PM(or you could hire one of us XDDDD)
Meh. Lessons via the internet aren't as effective because you can't closely watch exactly how their technique is working (and how it isn't working), so it's harder to help with technique. Also, if you don't have good mics on both ends, audio quality isn't as good as it would be live, so it can be harder to give musical advice.
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Post by: Dudeman on June 20, 2015, 04:22:06 PM
(i was joking)

But yes, generally online lessons are a less-than-ideal situation and should be avoided. There are some good pointers online, but only turn to the web after you've mastered the basics and then some. And even then some.
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Post by: Pianist Da Sootopolis on June 20, 2015, 04:38:24 PM
Quote from: Dudeman on June 20, 2015, 04:22:06 PM(i was joking)

But yes, generally online lessons are a less-than-ideal situation and should be avoided. There are some good pointers online, but only turn to the web after you've mastered the basics and then some. And even then some.
I'd say that to get practice ideas FOR your basics from the web is a viable idea, as long as the pianist is a good one (albeit at that stage is hard to tell)
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Post by: Hero of Trains on June 20, 2015, 05:09:09 PM
Okay, you've convinced me. It was so hard, right? I'll look into it more.
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Post by: cashwarrior1 on January 13, 2016, 06:52:23 PM
I didn't realize how much useful information was on this post.
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Post by: Dude on January 13, 2016, 09:51:56 PM
Sooo did you like... Not see the big red letters saying this topic hasn't been posted in over 120 days above the reply box or what's the deal?
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Post by: mikey on January 13, 2016, 09:56:06 PM
sometimes they're actually kind of small.  But they're still bright red
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Post by: Dude on January 13, 2016, 10:04:32 PM
Jamaha needs to make them bigger then.
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Post by: cashwarrior1 on January 14, 2016, 04:20:41 AM
I did read them, that post didn't deserve a new topic.
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Post by: BrainyLucario on January 14, 2016, 05:45:24 AM
They are right you know...
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Post by: Dude on January 14, 2016, 01:26:33 PM
Quote from: cashwarrior1 on January 14, 2016, 04:20:41 AMI did read them, that post didn't deserve a new topic.
That's not the point. You shouldn't have said anything as that post has no new information or anything to contribute to the topic.
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Post by: Sebastian on January 14, 2016, 01:28:56 PM
Don't force the issue.
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Post by: Dude on January 14, 2016, 01:29:25 PM
Ok minimod
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Post by: Dude on January 14, 2016, 01:33:43 PM
The only reason I'm saying it is because he needs to learn from his mistakes, unlike someone we all know.
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Post by: braix on January 14, 2016, 01:37:26 PM
I agree that lessons need to be learned, though you come out a little harsh in your methods. Maybe be a little nicer to new members for a while since they don't know anything.
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Post by: Dude on January 14, 2016, 01:42:40 PM
He's been here for almost a year so...

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Post by: braix on January 14, 2016, 01:44:20 PM
Whoops lmao
Then to be honest I don't really see a big problem, unless he's just reaaaaaally inactive so practically a new member
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Post by: cashwarrior1 on January 14, 2016, 02:37:34 PM
I am really unactive. At least for like 4 months. :P