--------------------------------------------------------------
What is the "Fixing the Sheets Project"?The "Replacing the Sheets" Project is an organized effort brought to you by TheMarioPianist and Myself to bring each and every sheet of music on NinSheetMusic up to the current standard. Some of the target sheets were submitted before any quality standard was required. As a result, some of those sheets are abhorring.
In no way does this project forbid replacement submissions from other games/franchises. This is simply a united, organized effort to deal with the substandard sheets one game/category at a time.
We will be focusing on Super Mario 64.
Spoiler
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mariowiki.com%2Fimages%2Fthumb%2F3%2F3e%2FSuper_Mario_64_Boxart.png%2F260px-Super_Mario_64_Boxart.png&hash=03e6c61ac886edc7a1d419923f81e102f7eae536)
What you need to know:-If you begin work on a sheet, post here letting me know so I can edit the target post (the next one) with the updated information. This keeps multiple people from working on the same song at the same time.
-Can't arrange? No problem; critique other sheets that either have not been looked at yet, or have just been revised. The Updaters will
NOT be looking over these unless they decide otherwise.
-There is no limit to how many sheets one may work on simultaneously but I would recommend that every sheet you take you must complete or don't take it at all.
-If you fix a sheet, your name will appear on the song list (on the Target Post) as the sheet modifier;
however your name will not be listed as the arranger on the main site. Nor can you change the original arranger's name to your own on the sheet itself.
This may only be done if the sheet was so dramatically changed that it counts as a replacement or is completely redone from scratch. In which case you can put your name on it.
Altering the original arranger's name on a sheet without just cause is considered plagiarism and is strictly prohibited.For more information on replacements, refer here (http://forum.ninsheetm.us/index.php?topic=6238.0).
Who to contact for questions, comments, and/or concerns regarding this whole endeavor:Yours truly (http://forum.ninsheetm.us/index.php?action=profile)
We will be giving out a common template (just like in the Animal Crossing project) so all the sheets will have the correct game/formatting info. And so it will be less of a hassle
if we get an update.
Template (https://www.dropbox.com/s/1f1ugq53kjr2gyn/Super%20Mario%2064%20Common%20Template.mus?dl=0)
Here is the OST. We will be using the official names which these are.
OST (http://downloads.khinsider.com/game-soundtracks/album/super-mario-64-soundtrack)
Our Goals for the Unofficial Replacement Projects:We hope to edit/replace
every sheet in the target game. We will be fixing
all musical and formatting errors as well as the url. In addition, we hope to get the formatting up to the standards of Bespinben and make every sheet we do as top quality as possible!
Our ultimate goal is to get a swift update for each
unofficial replacement project we do.
Questions you might ask:What games will you be doing?We will be starting with the games in the "Super Mario" section and depending on how fast we go, how many people are interested, and how daring the Updaters are feeling, will tell where we go next. For the time being, we will be doing only the "Super Mario" section.
Why the "Super Mario" section?Well, there are 2 reasons actually. 1. The Mario Pianist and I are big Mario fans obviously and we do have a lot of Mario fans on NSM who would be interested in helping. 2. "Super Mario", "Pokemon", and "Other" are 3 vast libraries of video game music and it would be great if we could get those big categories fixed first.....then we wouldn't have much to go with the other categories. So, we decided to start with "Super Mario" since there is another Pokemon project already in progress and another Pokemon one is going to be starting soon.
Why are you doing only 1 Mario game? Why not do multiple ones at the same time?We decided that doing it in small little phases would be way more practical than in big bites. It helps us feel like things are getting done and gives us a reasonable and attainable goal. Having 50 songs on the OP can be overwhelming XD
What if no one is interested?Simple, MarioPianist & I will do all the songs ourselves. Our only goal is to get valuable and quality sheets on the site.
If you have a question that is not above, PLEASE ask! :)
Here is a List of the Sheets that need replaced/edited:Note: These are not the official names. They are what they appear as on the main site.
Another Note: Songs from this game that have been added
after the site url change will not be looked over/replaced/edited because they have the modern standards of sheets and because they have the correct url.
Super Mario 64 Replacements & Fixes:
Super Mario 64 Main Theme (https://www.dropbox.com/s/hee0xv4ajn2cjh5/Super%20Mario%2064%20-%20Main%20Theme.mus?dl=0) -
Completed by TheMarioPianistCave Dungeon (https://www.dropbox.com/s/1fqyqeatz5q13lg/Super%20Mario%2064%20-%20Cave%20Dungeon.mus?dl=0) -
Completed by mariolegofanCorrect Solution (https://www.dropbox.com/s/l4zm7q29o5ajfly/Super%20Mario%2064%20-%20Correct%20Solution.mus?dl=0) -
Completed by The Deku TrombonistDire, Dire Docks - In Progress by Latios
File Select (https://www.dropbox.com/s/26hdro7r55skp1x/Super%20Mario%2064%20-%20File%20Select.mus?dl=0) -
Completed by mariolegofanInside the Castle Walls (https://www.dropbox.com/s/od4lcj8utorzdl4/Super%20Mario%2064%20-%20Inside%20the%20Castle%20Walls.mus?dl=0) -
Completed by DonValentinoKoopa Clear (https://www.dropbox.com/s/j2gkyxf13eahjpw/Super%20Mario%2064%20-%20Koopa%20Clear.mus?dl=0) -
Completed by JDMEK5Koopa's Theme (https://www.dropbox.com/s/pf67awtvnj86csr/Super%20Mario%2064%20-%20Koopa%27s%20Theme.mus?dl=0) -
Completed by DudemanLethal Lava Land - Unclaimed
Looping Stairs (https://www.dropbox.com/s/vy2ye5kta1971qy/Super%20Mario%2064%20-%20Looping%20Steps.mus?dl=0) -
Completed by DonValentinoMedley
Merry-Go-Round (https://www.dropbox.com/s/i47nhoj64blysps/Super%20Mario%2064%20-%20Merry-Go-Round.mus?dl=0) -
Completed by mariolegofanMetallic Mario (https://www.dropbox.com/s/sp5y16e139gk7yf/Super%20Mario%2064%20-%20Metallic%20Mario.mus?dl=0) -
Completed by mariolegofanPiranha Plant's Lullaby (https://www.dropbox.com/s/hl0sob2xzszarm6/Super%20Mario%2064%20-%20Piranha%20Plant%27s%20Lullaby.mus?dl=0) -
Completed by mariolegofanPiranha Plant's Lullaby (Piano) - Unclaimed
Powerful Mario (https://www.dropbox.com/s/j7n4yctl4rjwz3d/Super%20Mario%2064%20-%20Powerful%20Mario.mus?dl=0) -
Completed by The Deku TrombonistRec Room (DS) (https://www.dropbox.com/s/444qmp3ba4uh24n/Super%20Mario%2064%20DS%20-%20Rec%20Room.mus?dl=0) -
Completed by mariolegofanSlider (https://www.dropbox.com/s/piq2f9uaogy94h1/Super%20Mario%2064%20-%20Slider.mus?dl=0) -
Completed by mariolegofanSlider (Duet) - In Progress by mariolegofan & Latios212
Snow Mountain (https://www.dropbox.com/s/zkfc8h9r00udibe/Super%20Mario%2064%20-%20Snow%20Mountain.mus?dl=0) -
Completed by The Deku TrombonistSort or Splode (DS) (https://www.dropbox.com/s/abhxarkuo7b4nzj/Super%20Mario%2064%20%28DS%29%20-%20Sort%20or%20Splode.mus?dl=1) -
Completed by mariolegofanStaff Roll (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/3h1vaej4hz5uih1/AAC1kz5rymWmHAGrdinf0tvEa/Don's%20Arrangements/SMASHIN'%20SCORES!/1.%20MARIO%20-%20Super%20Mario%2064%20-%20Staff%20Roll.mus?dl=0) -
Completed by DonValentino Title Theme - In Progress by TheMarioPianist
Ultimate Koopa (https://www.dropbox.com/s/uqkrrvh3jg8imu0/Super%20Mario%2064%20-%20Ultimate%20Koopa.mus?dl=0) -
Completed by DonValentinoSuper Mario 64 Brand New Arrangements:
Haunted House (https://www.dropbox.com/s/6bkkqgs16l475z9/Super%20Mario%2064%20-%20Haunted%20House.mus?dl=0) -
Completed by mariolegofanRace Fanfare (https://www.dropbox.com/s/4cts1f0ce29ql6y/Super%20Mario%2064%20-%20Race%20Fanfare.mus?dl=0) -
Completed by JDMEK5Toad's Message (https://www.dropbox.com/s/rlbmuqizx7nxjxw/Super%20Mario%2064%20-%20Toad%27s%20Message.mus?dl=0) -
Completed by mariolegofan We hope a lot of people are interested in helping! :)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hey guys! Feel free to give us any help you can! The more help and interest we get, the quicker we can finish this and move on through the Super Mario series. Plus, right now, MLF is alone because I'm in Mexico, unable to assist with the project :(. I'll be back Friday, but until then I'd love to see the number of helpers in this project increase dramatically! Come on! We need your help! :D
Can't wait till you get back so we can hit this project hard! ;D
I have a few songs from the Pokemon project that I'm currently working on. As soon as I'm done with them, I'll help out here as well.
[EDIT] I don't think that the website likes your hand sign in the thread. When I press Preview, it tells me that there's no subject. :P
Awesome! The more the merrier! :)
I can do a lot of fixing of formatting and URL errors, as well as some musical errors (that is to say, wrong accidentals or what have you), but re-arranging a sheet that is just plain wrong is a bit beyond my scope. Are all the listed sheets just in need of some superficial fixing, or have you also listed sheets with blatant errors in that list?
The composer of most songs is Yoko Shimomura. The only exceptions currently on the site are "Conversation with Culex" and "Culex Victory," which were composed by Nobuo Uematsu. We don't have "Fight Against Culex" on the site currently, but he also composed that one.
Concerning the songs in the Completed Section: "Beware the Forest's Mushrooms" is called "Forest Maze" on the site, but the mus and pdf versions of the sheet both have it correctly. It should be the former. "Mallow Discovers He's Not a Tadpole" should be called "Sad Song" on both the sheet and site.
What's the actual title of the game? Your template has it as "Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars," which I believe to be correct. However, for "Conversation with Culex," "Fight Against an Armed Boss," "Geno Awakens," and "Mallow Discovers He's Not a Tadpole" ("Sad Song"), the name of the game is just given as "Super Mario RPG." Only "Beware the Forest's Mushroom's" has it correct of those in the Completed Section.
Question: Should Square Enix be included in the copyright? Currently we only have Nintendo, but they co-developed the game. I believe that they should both be listed, but I may be mistaken.
Just trying to help keep everything consistent. :)
More unofficial projects? I'm not against them but c'mon guys, we have the official ones for something. Wait until the current one finishes and then you start with this, geez...
Quote from: DonValentino on July 31, 2015, 01:40:33 AMMore unofficial projects? I'm not against them but c'mon guys, we have the official ones for something. Wait until the current one finishes and then you start with this, geez...
Oh yea, should've mentioned this too. The 3D World project is actually going on hold in favor of this one.
Quote from: DonValentino on July 31, 2015, 01:40:33 AMMore unofficial projects? I'm not against them but c'mon guys, we have the official ones for something. Wait until the current one finishes and then you start with this, geez...
The projects about arranging from a specific game makes somewhat sense to me. I can at least be useful so that people can see what songs are left from the game, and which ones are in process by other peoples.
Thanks guys for the help! Many thanks!
Quote from: DonValentino on July 31, 2015, 01:40:33 AMMore unofficial projects? I'm not against them but c'mon guys, we have the official ones for something. Wait until the current one finishes and then you start with this, geez...
Unfortunately, I agree with Don. Let's see how much we can do with Animal Crossing before we work on this one.
Quote from: mariolegofan on August 02, 2015, 03:29:20 PMThanks guys for the help! Many thanks!
Unfortunately, I agree with Don. Let's see how much we can do with Animal Crossing before we work on this one.
Precisely, let's not split our efforts too much, otherwise each thing will take forever.
Ok!
As of now, this project has been changed to Super Mario 64. After talking with some people, we decided to change it to Super Mario 64 because of the lack of interest of Super Mario RPG.
Quote from: DonValentino on August 03, 2015, 03:36:26 AMPrecisely, let's not split our efforts too much, otherwise each thing will take forever.
I hope you don't mind if we do this unofficially since AC is almost done, Pokemon is 95% done, Banjo is trucking along awesomely, and this is unofficial :)
I call Dire Dire Docks and Bowser!
Whoops autocorrect.......
Hey, a project I can actually feel better about helping with since I've played SM64 (loads of times) :p
maybe anyway
if i have time
Oh shit, the ONE song I wanted to do is already on site. Oh well. Fuck it. I can do something else I guess. As long as I help out then it's a win for me.
You're missing something.
DPP was already approved as the next project.
It was also decided, iirc, that there would only be on fixing the sheets project at a time, instead of the two.
So this isn't happening quite as soon as you would expect.
Quote from: Maelstrom on August 22, 2015, 04:50:18 PMYou're missing something.
DPP was already approved as the next project.
It was also decided, iirc, that there would only be on fixing the sheets project at a time, instead of the two.
So this isn't happening quite as soon as you would expect.
Hell no, DPP isn't the next project! SM3DW is!
Quote from: ThatGamer on August 22, 2015, 04:51:23 PMHell no, DPP isn't the next project! SM3DW is!
*fixing the sheets/replacing the sheets.
http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=6645.0
And we don't decide on the next arrangement until the current one is finished. And I doubt it will be 3D World.
Quote from: Maelstrom on August 22, 2015, 04:55:44 PM*fixing the sheets/replacing the sheets.
http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=6645.0
And we don't decide on the next arrangement until the current one is finished. And I doubt it will be 3D World.
Why? SM3DW is currently the most voted topic
It's 3-0 right now.
I'm just going to let that ignorant statement slide by.
Quote from: Maelstrom on August 22, 2015, 04:59:43 PMI'm just going to let that ignorant statement slide by.
Ignorant?...
Quote from: Maelstrom on August 22, 2015, 04:50:18 PMYou're missing something.
DPP was already approved as the next project.
It was also decided, iirc, that there would only be on fixing the sheets project at a time, instead of the two.
This is only unofficial
Quote from: ThatGamer on August 22, 2015, 04:49:26 PMOh shit, the ONE song I wanted to do is already on site. Oh well. Fuck it. I can do something else I guess. As long as I help out then it's a win for me.
Dude,
fixing the sheets
Quote from: ThatGamer on August 22, 2015, 04:58:08 PMWhy? SM3DW is currently the most voted topic
It's 3-0 right now.
Dude, fixing the sheets. There are 2 types of projects
1. Fixing the sheets
2. Arrangement Projects
Quote from: ThatGamer on August 22, 2015, 04:51:23 PMHell no, DPP isn't the next project! SM3DW is!
We will vote for the next arrangement project
Quote from: mariolegofan on August 22, 2015, 05:08:20 PMThis is only unofficial
Dude, fixing the sheets
Dude, fixing the sheets. There are 2 types of projects
1. Fixing the sheets
2. Arrangement Projects
We will vote for the next arrangement project
Okay. Thanks for clarifying. One last thing, can we vote more than one?
We already voted for the next fixing the sheets project.
http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=6645.0
We will vote on the next arrangement project when the current one is done.
Alright! I better get cracking' then!
Oh and Dire Dire Docks doesn't need a replacement. It just needs some editing, so by all means.....edit away!
Sweet, I love SM64 as a choice for fixing. Smaller list to fix, more well-known, will be done faster 8)
Quote from: Latios212 on August 22, 2015, 05:47:52 PMSweet, I love SM64 as a choice for fixing. Smaller list to fix, more well-known, will be done faster 8)
Agreed, that's exactly what we were thinking when we chose it (or rather, when MLF chose it).
Quote from: Latios212 on August 22, 2015, 05:47:52 PMSweet, I love SM64 as a choice for fixing. Smaller list to fix, more well-known, will be done faster 8)
👌
Ok, Don has finished "Ultimate Bowser", "Endless Stairs", & "Inside the Castle Walls."
I have "Metallic Mario", "Slider", & "Hazy Maze Cave"
I claim Haunted Merry Go Round.
Quote from: TheMarioPianist on August 22, 2015, 05:48:38 PMAgreed, that's exactly what we were thinking when we chose it (or rather, when MLF chose it).
I suggested it.....we chose it :)
I claim the following!
-Bob-Omb Battlefield
-Title
-Ending
Awesome!
There are 2 things you have to remember:
1. You can only put your name on it if you redo it from scratch.
2. Don't forget to use the official names (they are in the link I have in the description).
Quote from: TheMarioPianist on August 22, 2015, 05:54:30 PMI claim the following!
-Bob-Omb Battlefield
-Title
-Ending
Don Valentino claimed to have a fixed/differently arranged version of the ending, in my thread. (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=7217.0) I would have taken the ending myself if I hadn't seen that - god that C# section at the end is all over the damn place. I'm not saying you can't do it obviously, just pointing this out for reference.
Quote from: Altissimo on August 22, 2015, 06:23:29 PMDon Valentino claimed to have a fixed/differently arranged version of the ending, in my thread. (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=7217.0) I would have taken the ending myself if I hadn't seen that - god that C# section at the end is all over the damn place. I'm not saying you can't do it obviously, just pointing this out for reference.
Thanks for the warning! Probably will do something else instead!
More warnings: Best mark down what people have done already (ex. MLF's Slider, Don's Inside the Castle Walls) before people accidentally double claim
Quote from: Latios212 on August 22, 2015, 06:35:01 PMMore warnings: Best mark down what people have done already (ex. MLF's Slider, Don's Inside the Castle Walls) before people accidentally double claim
I'll do that asap!
EDIT: Updated. I will get the links to the sheets up tomorrow. I also updated the title names to the official titles.
Merry-Go-Round (Challenge Replacement):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/i47nhoj64blysps/Super%20Mario%2064%20-%20Merry-Go-Round.mus?dl=0
For future reference, please specify whether it's a Challenge Replacement or a Fix.
Slider (Challenge Replacement):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/piq2f9uaogy94h1/Super%20Mario%2064%20-%20Slider.mus?dl=0
EDIT:
Correct Solution (Fix):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/l4zm7q29o5ajfly/Super%20Mario%2064%20-%20Correct%20Solution.mus?dl=0
Finale-less for a few days so I'll look at the sheets later, but question:
The two songs labeled "DS" are from Super Mario 64 DS, right? As in they should belong in their own section?
Quote from: Latios212 on August 24, 2015, 07:34:11 PMFinale-less for a few days so I'll look at the sheets later, but question:
The two songs labeled "DS" are from Super Mario 64 DS, right? As in they should belong in their own section?
Well, um, yes, but all the other SM64DS songs are identical to the original. I'm not anyone in charge here, but I think it would be kind of unnecessary to have a section with only two songs, considering they make up such a small portion of the OST. Just my opinion.
Quote from: mariolegofan on August 24, 2015, 12:05:31 PMFor future reference, please specify whether it's a Challenge Replacement or a Fix.
The three songs I have claimed are Fixes. However, I also wanted to do a Challenge Replacement to the Medley. And with that, I have the freedom to put whatever songs I want from SM64 into the medley, as long as they are transcribed accurately, correct?
Well if the tracks don't appear in SM64 (N64 version), then there's no reason for the sheets to appear in that section. :/
Quote from: Latios212 on August 24, 2015, 08:00:34 PMWell if they don't appear in SM64 (N64 version), then there's no reason for them to appear in that section. :/
True, I understand that. So should the DS ones just go in a separate place on the site, or what? I have no idea what that Sort Splode whatever its called is for, but the rec room song is obviously a remixed version of World 1 in SMB3. Unfortunately, its probably different enough to be considered its own song.
Quote from: Latios212 on August 24, 2015, 07:34:11 PMThe two songs labeled "DS" are from Super Mario 64 DS, right? As in they should belong in their own section?
I guess they could go in their own section.....but there are only 2 extra songs in the DS version.
Quote from: TheMarioPianist on August 24, 2015, 07:57:12 PMThe three songs I have claimed are Fixes. However, I also wanted to do a Challenge Replacement to the Medley. And with that, I have the freedom to put whatever songs I want from SM64 into the medley, as long as they are transcribed accurately, correct?
Yup. You can do whatever you want with the medley but don't forget to look at the note under "What should your sheet look like?"
Here is what is says about medleys in "What Should You Sheet Look Like?"
"Medleys:
Make sure you include the name of each individual song in the medley just above the Right Hand as it appears.
For medleys with songs from multiple games, include the game name in addition to the above as necessary."
Here is "Koopa Clear (Fix)":
https://www.dropbox.com/s/j2gkyxf13eahjpw/Super%20Mario%2064%20-%20Koopa%20Clear.mus?dl=0
And here is another note. If you fix a song and do very little (such as the url or a few notes etc.) don't put "Edited by you" on it. Like the one I fixed above and "Correct Solution". I fixed those and didn't put "Edited by mariolegofan" on them because I didn't do enough on them to warrant it.
"Slider" should be just "Slide" in both instances where it appears.
Not according to the official soundtrack
http://www.mariowiki.com/File:SM64_SuperMario64STBack.jpg
Ugh right. I forgot about that in the OST but I hate that. It's just bad japanese localization but oh well.
I agree
Then don't call it slider.
slider is a stupid name.
Quote from: DonValentino on July 13, 2015, 12:51:08 AMRegarding track names, official soundtrack names will prevail over any other naming.
:/
Just some proof that I am indeed doing something besides my story! ;D So far on this one, I've fixed the right hand up through the first repeating area. (Still gotta add some stuff that plays the second time only, but that's no big deal.) Have not touched the left hand at all. Right now, it plays indefinitely because I haven't set up the repeats properly yet. Don't worry, I will. But I think the way I have it now is much more efficient. Will hopefully have it completed tomorrow! I think this one calls for an edited, bc I will still have to do a lot with this...
[.musx] (https://www.dropbox.com/s/izusb0qtjwha3lh/Super%20Mario%2064%20Main%20Theme.musx?dl=0) [.mus] (https://www.dropbox.com/s/hipnh8axqm6o7bk/Super%20Mario%2064%20Main%20Theme.mus?dl=0)
Great! Can't wait to see it done :)
EDIT: I did a bunch more fixes
The on-site Piranha Plant's Lullaby is horrible.
Re-did it from scratch:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/hl0sob2xzszarm6/Super%20Mario%2064%20-%20Piranha%20Plant%27s%20Lullaby.mus?dl=0
Great work on the song! One of my favourites!
I'll tentatively take Dire, Dire Docks. (May need a some help later on, but I'll get started on it.)
Also mistake found, someone confirm: "Ending" on site. PDF leads to an old file of the song "Staff Roll" mislabeled as "Ending". MUS link leads to the correctly labeled arranger Nacho and title "Staff Roll" (probably a replacement of the PDF). We should take Nacho's MUS, convert the files, and post them all under "Staff Roll".
Awesome!
I'll take a look at the Ending thing.
Ok, finally, this is my pretty much complete version of SM64 Theme Song! Thanks holland_oates89 for teaching me how to do some pretty complicated stuff so that those small notes only play on passes 2 and 4! Definitely worth it! Enjoy!
[.mus] (https://www.dropbox.com/s/hipnh8axqm6o7bk/Super%20Mario%2064%20Main%20Theme.mus?dl=0) [.musx] (https://www.dropbox.com/s/izusb0qtjwha3lh/Super%20Mario%2064%20Main%20Theme.musx?dl=0)
Very nice! The only thing that I can see is on measure 46. There's a glissando that doesn't lead to anywhere.
I'll take a peek at it tomorrow. =)
I did a little polishing on your Bob-omb Battlefield! Hope you don't mind.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2n8z6zgjpdo2a7q/Super%20Mario%2064%20-%20Main%20Theme.musx?dl=0
- I made the formatting a little cleaner.
- Throughout the song, the bass was just a tad wrong. I fixed that and took out the second layer from measures 1-17. The second layers weren't needed because you were holding some notes longer they actually were (according to the original).
- I cleaned up some of the note lengths and rests. For example, measure 25, in the right hand, you had quarter - 8th rest - 8th. It looks better as 8th - 8th rest - 8th rest - 8th.
- In measures 22 & 23 (and others like it), I added a some notes which resemble the original more by putting octaves and the harmony note.
- Lastly, I fixed up some accidentals. I can't find Olimar's quote of accidental rules.....let me see if I can find it.....
Other than that stuff, you did a great job! I really like how far you've come in such a short time!
Quote from: mariolegofan on August 31, 2015, 03:37:11 PMI really like how far you've come in such a short time!
I agree! Great job, man :D
Further feedback on this sheet (actually I think MLF got most of the things I was going to say):
- On page 2 you have dotted half notes, but on page 3 you have half tied to quarter. Is there a reason why? I'd suggest just sticking with one.
- In measure 10 I don't like the look of a small note superimposed on top of a big note. Perhaps just hide the overlapping G (but keep the tie)?
- The placement of rests in measure with small notes is odd in some places. (ex. measure 10, move the eighth rest in second layer up, and quarter rest from first layer down). Try and make the rest of these measures look cleaner as well in regard to rest placement. I don't think any first layer rests should be hidden, as some iterations play first layer only.
Quote from: mariolegofan on August 31, 2015, 03:37:11 PMI did a little polishing on your Bob-omb Battlefield! Hope you don't mind.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2n8z6zgjpdo2a7q/Super%20Mario%2064%20-%20Main%20Theme.musx?dl=0
- I made the formatting a little cleaner.
- Throughout the song, the bass was just a tad wrong. I fixed that and took out the second layer from measures 1-17. The second layers weren't needed because you were holding some notes longer they actually were (according to the original).
- I cleaned up some of the note lengths and rests. For example, measure 25, in the right hand, you had quarter - 8th rest - 8th. It looks better as 8th - 8th rest - 8th rest - 8th.
- In measures 22 & 23 (and others like it), I added a some notes which resemble the original more by putting octaves and the harmony note.
- Lastly, I fixed up some accidentals. I can't find Olimar's quote of accidental rules.....let me see if I can find it.....
Other than that stuff, you did a great job! I really like how far you've come in such a short time!
Quote from: Latios212 on August 31, 2015, 05:05:30 PMI agree! Great job, man :D
Further feedback on this sheet (actually I think MLF got most of the things I was going to say):
- On page 2 you have dotted half notes, but on page 3 you have half tied to quarter. Is there a reason why? I'd suggest just sticking with one.
- In measure 10 I don't like the look of a small note superimposed on top of a big note. Perhaps just hide the overlapping G (but keep the tie)?
- The placement of rests in measure with small notes is odd in some places. (ex. measure 10, move the eighth rest in second layer up, and quarter rest from first layer down). Try and make the rest of these measures look cleaner as well in regard to rest placement. I don't think any first layer rests should be hidden, as some iterations play first layer only.
Thanks for the help guys! I couldn't find anything to disagree with, so here are the revised sheets!
[.musx] (https://www.dropbox.com/s/izusb0qtjwha3lh/Super%20Mario%2064%20Main%20Theme.musx?dl=0) [.mus] (https://www.dropbox.com/s/hipnh8axqm6o7bk/Super%20Mario%2064%20Main%20Theme.mus?dl=0)
Great! I updated the OP with "Super Mario 64 Main Theme."
The musx looks like an old version; did you update with the mus link?
Yes
Btw, here is a brand new and completely redone from scratch "File Select."
https://www.dropbox.com/s/26hdro7r55skp1x/Super%20Mario%2064%20-%20File%20Select.mus?dl=0
Hey, MLF. Just noticed something on that Haunted Merry-Go-Round. If you listen to that left hand part again, beat 2 is the only one that is staccato. Beat 3 of each measure should not be staccato (except in measure 31); rather, it should either not have any articulation or have a tenuto. Also, every note on beat 1 should be held for the duration of the measure, so it should probably be written in a separate layer. I've made a new version; here's the list of things I've done. Feel free to pick and choose what you want from it!
Version 1: [.mus] (https://www.dropbox.com/s/000n9svj0xd66tr/Super%20Mario%2064%20-%20Merry-Go-Round%20Version%201.mus?dl=0)
-Changed each base clef note's articulation in beat 3 from staccato to tenuto in measures 1-31
-Moved first note of each measure of the bass clef into Layer 2 and changed to a dotted half note for 1-31
-Added a dynamic marking
-Changed to 4 measures per system
-Added an F on the chord in measures 7 and 8 (might only be in measure 7, can't tell)
-Fixed notes on beats 2 and 3 of measure 29; should be F's, not G's
-Added some intentional clashing tones throughout (might not have the right enharmonic spellings, check those please?)
-Rhythm changes very slightly in measure 27. If you slow the actual song down to about 50%, you will hear this.
-Added a D to last chord. This note appears here (http://downloads.khinsider.com/game-soundtracks/album/super-mario-64-soundtrack) but not here. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCsD-mEUB0c) Don't know whether to keep it or not...
In the version below, I experimented with 8 measure systems. Seems a bit crammed, but is a possibility.
Version 2: [.mus] (https://www.dropbox.com/s/rgaainak2ttllhx/Super%20Mario%2064%20-%20Merry-Go-Round%20Version%202.mus?dl=0)
Let me know what you think of this!
Thanks! I'll take a look when I get on my computer
Quote from: mariolegofan on September 05, 2015, 12:01:16 PMThanks! I'll take a look when I get on my computer
Sorry, I've just been going through a lot of these SM64 songs, and of course, the first 2 I end up noticing fixes on are yours. But, anyway, for Haunted House. You are missing a part where something actually happens in the treble clef. I have the part where it happens loaded up in this YouTube video. (https://youtu.be/8btnaFsKqiY?t=1m44s) Well, uh, have fun transcribing that! The easy part of that song is over...if you need help, let me know! Sorry for kinda knocking all your stuff...
Hey thanks!
I actually left that out on purpose because it is unplayable and it is almost impossible to transcribe.
Quote from: TheMarioPianist on September 05, 2015, 10:08:42 AM-Changed each base clef note's articulation in beat 3 from staccato to tenuto in measures 1-31
Thanks! That actually sounds better.
Quote from: TheMarioPianist on September 05, 2015, 10:08:42 AM-Moved first note of each measure of the bass clef into Layer 2 and changed to a dotted half note for 1-31
Imo, this looks sloppy which is why I put a tenuto on the the first note instead of making it like this.....but I actually think this way works better.
Quote from: TheMarioPianist on September 05, 2015, 10:08:42 AM-Added a dynamic marking
Odd, my dynamic markings keep disappearing.....
Quote from: TheMarioPianist on September 05, 2015, 10:08:42 AM-Changed to 4 measures per system
5 works fine, imo.
Quote from: TheMarioPianist on September 05, 2015, 10:08:42 AM-Added an F on the chord in measures 7 and 8 (might only be in measure 7, can't tell)
I'm not hearing an F there and even if there was an F, I wouldn't include it. There needs to be a consistent 2 notes on the upbeat throughout. Olimar scolded me about this before :P
Quote from: TheMarioPianist on September 05, 2015, 10:08:42 AM-Fixed notes on beats 2 and 3 of measure 29; should be F's, not G's
Whoops
Quote from: TheMarioPianist on September 05, 2015, 10:08:42 AM-Added some intentional clashing tones throughout (might not have the right enharmonic spellings, check those please?)
I don't hear this in the original and it kinda sounds ugly, imo.
Quote from: TheMarioPianist on September 05, 2015, 10:08:42 AM-Rhythm changes very slightly in measure 27. If you slow the actual song down to about 50%, you will hear this.
Hmmmm.....I'll look into this.
Quote from: TheMarioPianist on September 05, 2015, 10:08:42 AM-Added a D to last chord. This note appears here (http://downloads.khinsider.com/game-soundtracks/album/super-mario-64-soundtrack) but not here. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCsD-mEUB0c) Don't know whether to keep it or not...
I have the official OST version on my MP3 player and I hear a C, not a D.
Hey, thanks for the feedback! I'll get a revised version up tomorrow :)
Cool, cool. Hey, by chance, could you send me the official OST MP3 version you have? I wanna make sure I'm critiquing based off the right version
It's here:
http://mariomedia.net/music/index.php
I would recommend this site over any^
Quote from: mariolegofan on September 05, 2015, 08:17:12 PMI'm not hearing an F there and even if there was an F, I wouldn't include it. There needs to be a consistent 2 notes on the upbeat throughout. Olimar scolded me about this before :P
Well, I'll maintain that this chord contains an F (and therefore is a G7), but if you don't want to put it in, I guess that's fine. Oh yea, and I have no idea what that "consistent 2 notes on the upbeat" thing means. I'll assume it is a credible argument.
Quote from: mariolegofan on September 05, 2015, 08:17:12 PMI don't hear this in the original and it kinda sounds ugly, imo.
To be completely honest, isn't that the kind of feeling you would expect in a tune like this? It's supposed to sound eerie. With that in mind, I'll mention an example here. That G#s in measures 2, 4, and 6 definitely have a tone clashing with it. Of course, they are already clashing with the Gs in the bass clef, but I'm hearing a higher note as well. Right now, my perfect pitch is leaning towards an E rather than a G, but it is a really hard note to get accurately. The melody note just overpowers it.
Quote from: mariolegofan on September 05, 2015, 08:17:12 PMHmmmm.....I'll look into this.
Yea, this is a very minor thing. It would be hard to play this thing at full speed anyway, so I would put this on the bottom of my list of priorities.
Quote from: mariolegofan on September 05, 2015, 08:17:12 PMI have the official OST version on my MP3 player and I hear a C, not a D.
Hmm, your version has the D I'm hearing too. The only C I hear is the one coming from the bass clef. Maybe my mind is creating auditory hallucinations. I don't know. Maybe talking on Skype about these things would be better anyway...
Quote from: mariolegofan on September 05, 2015, 08:17:12 PMHey, thanks for the feedback! I'll get a revised version up tomorrow :)
No problem! Let me know if you have any other comments!
Ok!
I'm AFK until this afternoon. We'll talk then =)
Acatully, I just found some time :P
Is this better? I put all the clashing notes I heard:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/i47nhoj64blysps/Super%20Mario%2064%20-%20Merry-Go-Round.mus?dl=0
Quote from: mariolegofan on September 06, 2015, 07:31:17 AMActually, I just found some time :P
Is this better? I put all the clashing notes I heard:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/i47nhoj64blysps/Super%20Mario%2064%20-%20Merry-Go-Round.mus?dl=0
Ooh, I like this. I like it a lot. Personally, I could argue that there are more clashes, but I'm not going to. I think it sounds fine. Nice work! Can't wait to play this version! (Of course, just finished learning the old one when you finished this one... :P)
Thanks! We'll see what the Updaters think about the clashing notes.
Me and MLF will work on "Dire, Dire Docks" and "Slider (Two pianos)" (we'll change it from a duet to two pianos because the parts can't all fit well on one piano)
👌
Don't worry, I haven't forgotten about my contributions either!
Quote from: TheMarioPianist on September 13, 2015, 06:51:18 PMDon't worry, I haven't forgotten about my contributions either!
👌
If anyone needs help, just ask me! And don't forget to vote for this as the next official fixing the sheets project!
Very fun song!
Sort or Splode (DS) (https://www.dropbox.com/s/abhxarkuo7b4nzj/Super%20Mario%2064%20%28DS%29%20-%20Sort%20or%20Splode.mus?dl=0)
May I try Lethal Lava Land? Or of thats taken, medley? Thank you.
Sure! Go ahead with Lethal!
Thank you very much, I wont let you down. :)
Here you go! I added arranged by, added the tempo, and added the Copyright info. at the bottom. Also, moved lines 1-5, up one octave.
Lethal Lava Land (https://www.dropbox.com/s/owy3o7ornahcr00/Lethal%20Lava%20Land.mus?dl=0)
Um, it's not finished. You haven't gotten rid of the remaining measures. Also:
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1147.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fo555%2FJDMEK5%2FEr%2520what..png&hash=e803c283a2adf5b71a7300888ab5495a4429104b)
??? ??? ???
I was gonna try to fix your fixed version but there's just way too much to fix. X(
Quote from: JDMEK5 on September 15, 2015, 03:01:44 PMUm, it's not finished. You haven't gotten rid of the remaining measures.
I'd also like to point out that this is literally the same arrangement that is currently on the main site, just in a different (still wrong) key. And another point I'd like to bring up. What time signature is this thing? It does not sound like 4/4, sounds like something odd.
I have no clue what the time signature is. I hate Lethal Lava Land :P
That's why I didn't do it lol
Quote from: mariolegofan on September 15, 2015, 03:15:57 PMI have no clue what the time signature is. I hate Lethal Lava Land :P
That's why I didn't do it lol
Well, I did myself some Internet researching, and most people seem to agree that Lethal Lava Land is in free time. So that's just great...how do we even write that...just do 4/4 and cut our losses?
Hm, I think Im not understanding this well. So for this sheet, what I was thinking is that we just fix the link, composer name, etc.
Can I tamper and add/remove some notes?
The answer to your question generally relies on the sheet in question. If it's needed, yes. If not, no.
In this particular case, the answer would be yes. As JDMEK5 pointed out, the second layer at measure 9 is overlapping the first layer. This looks bad. It's not your fault, since it was already overlapping to begin with. If you want to edit any other part of the sheet (like the Key Sig or adding a part) that would be fine. :)
There's also a melody found in this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emeB83Q6P1I) at 0:35 that doesn't exist in the sheet. If that can be incorporated, that would be awesome. But it might not be possible. Apparently PianoMasta7 didn't think so. :P
Quote from: TheMarioPianist on September 15, 2015, 03:30:41 PMWell, I did myself some Internet researching, and most people seem to agree that Lethal Lava Land is in free time. So that's just great...how do we even write that...just do 4/4 and cut our losses?
Might as well. :P
@Brawler: Thank you so very much for clarifying this!
Oh, Oasis, btw. Transpose all your notes up into the key of E major. That's what it's supposed to be...? It could be E mixolydian too. I'll double check that.
I would guess A Major. Not the best music theorist here, but I hear several D Naturals in the melody at 0:35. Lots of F#, G#, and C#'s though. Definitely not B Flat Major like in the original. From what I can tell, the first 3 notes are E3, B2, and E2. Not exactly the same key sig. :P
[EDIT] Free Style(ish), E Major (https://www.dropbox.com/s/bn8ftudz1jyl2hd/Lethal%20Lava%20Land.mus?dl=0)
This can be used as a template. The actual time in my file is 63/4. That's the highest that I could get it to. In MuseScore, I am able to hide the Time Signature and barlines, but it comes back in Notepad. However, the entire song should fit into one or two measures, and the rest can be deleted. In case I am wrong, there's more than enough measures there anyway. Somebody with Finale will need to actually hide the Time Signature (and the barlines if it turns out to be more than one measure), but until then, that should be enough to get it started! :)
[EDIT 2] Actually, this won't work. the measure doesn't wrap around like I thought that it would; it all bunches up together. Still, it's there for testing in case somebody else wants to play around with it. I'll take a look at it when I get back from school.
Quote from: TheMarioPianist on September 15, 2015, 03:14:52 PMWhat time signature is this thing? It does not sound like 4/4, sounds like something odd.
Personally I'd write it in Free Time (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_time_(music)). (No written time sig, just some dotted barlines occasionally to help divide it up a bit)
Here, I made a Free Time Template, without barlines and time signature: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24842881/Free%20Time%20Template.zip
Thanks Tobbeh, really appreciate the help.
Here is the Staff Roll arranged by DonValentino
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/3h1vaej4hz5uih1/AAC1kz5rymWmHAGrdinf0tvEa/Don's%20Arrangements/SMASHIN'%20SCORES!/1.%20MARIO%20-%20Super%20Mario%2064%20-%20Staff%20Roll.mus?dl=0
We're almost done, guys! Let's keeping chugging!
MLF and Latios, couple pointers for "Dire, Dire Docks" in case you haven't discovered these yet.
-Tempo is half note=68, time sig is cut time
-For some reason, my official Super Mario Series for Piano book lists the title as Water Land. I assumed Dire, Dire Docks was right, and you should probably stick with it since that is what your OST says.
We never finished Dire Dire, Docks. We're still in the process of it.
I know, just felt like posting the tempo since, well, my book has the official one. Idk why. Anyways, once I finish tidying up some formatting I'll post what I have for the Medley so far.
Well, Here's what I got for the Medley so far. Obviously, I'll end it with the Staff Roll. But I do have some questions for you guys.
-Are the songs that are in it so far good selections? Should any of those be removed/replaced?
-Should I include any other songs? What other songs should I include?
-How is the length of this thing? Should I shorten stuff up? Make stuff longer?
-Is my formatting ok? Mainly, my biggest concern here is font size/style for each individual song name.
Also, I'm using the old version of Dire, Dire Docks as a placeholder until the new one is done.
[.mus] (https://www.dropbox.com/s/gb7egxx45stm41q/Medley.mus?dl=0) [.musx] (https://www.dropbox.com/s/1yyq7plvgvkwavg/Medley.musx?dl=0)
Wow.....that's one of the best medleys I've ever seen/heard :P
Quote from: TheMarioPianist on September 18, 2015, 09:14:42 PM-Are the songs that are in it so far good selections? Should any of those be removed/replaced?
Sounds great! I don't think anything needs removed.
Quote from: TheMarioPianist on September 18, 2015, 09:14:42 PM-Should I include any other songs? What other songs should I include?
Staff Roll is the only other I'd add.
Quote from: TheMarioPianist on September 18, 2015, 09:14:42 PM-How is the length of this thing? Should I shorten stuff up? Make stuff longer?
I think the length of them is perfect.
Quote from: TheMarioPianist on September 18, 2015, 09:14:42 PM-Is my formatting ok? Mainly, my biggest concern here is font size/style for each individual song name.
I recommend the size of the titles be size 10.
Instead of putting Special Thanks to the Individual Arrangers, I'd put Compiled by TheMarioPianist and then put each of the arrangers name somewhere out of the way (maybe over each arrangement).
Mlf could you add my free time template in the OP so the one who claims it can easily find it.
Quote from: Tobbeh99 on September 16, 2015, 10:26:40 AMHere, I made a Free Time Template, without barlines and time signature: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24842881/Free%20Time%20Template.zip
Sure! I didn't see that. Is it for Lethal Lava Land?
Yes.
Ok. Did we ever decide who is doing Lethal Lava Land?
I thought it was Oasis?
Quote from: Oasis on September 16, 2015, 11:52:32 AMThanks Tobbeh, really appreciate the help.
This sounds to me like she's still interested in doing it.
@Oasis if you don't want to work on it anymore, then TMP or I could work on it. No pressure or anything! :P
@TMP: I agree with MLF. It sounds amazing! Staff Roll would also be the perfect ending to it!
Quote from: Brawler4Ever on September 19, 2015, 12:12:30 PMI thought it was Oasis?
I didn't know.....I heard so many people talking about doing it :P
@Brawler: Yeah, can you guys just do it? Never realized how hard it was. Sorry.
No problem! TMP, do you want it, or should I take a shot at it?
Quote from: Brawler4Ever on September 19, 2015, 01:18:38 PMNo problem! TMP, do you want it, or should I take a shot at it?
Hmm, it's a pretty tough one. I think it's a two person job; trying to decode and agree on some of that stuff. Wanna work on it together?
Sounds good! ;D
You 2 always have me to fall back on if you need help!