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Title: [GCN] The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker - "Dragon Roost Island" (Replacement) by Zunawe & Zeila
Post by: Zeta on January 26, 2016, 11:31:23 PM
Submission Information:

Series: The Legend of Zelda
Game: The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker
Console: Nintendo GameCube
Title: Dragon Roost Island
Instrumentation Solo Piano
Arrangers: Zunawe (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3325) & Zeila (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?action=profile;u=4766)


Replacement Information:

Links to Existing Sheet: MUS (http://www.ninsheetmusic.org/download/mus/137) | MIDI (http://www.ninsheetmusic.org/download/mid/137) | PDF (http://www.ninsheetmusic.org/download/pdf/137)
Replacement Type: Challenge (new arranger)

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Title: Re: [GCN] The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker - "Dragon Roost Island" (Replacement) by Zunawe
Post by: Zunawe on January 26, 2016, 11:33:53 PM

This has been sitting in my files for some time, and every once in a while I open it, edit a couple notes, and close it again. I'm fully aware that it's sub-par, so if somebody would like to put their name in as a collaboration, I'm perfectly fine with that. Mostly, I just think the one on the site needs to go.

If this is the wrong way to go about this, let me know and I'll move to a new topic.
Title: Re: [GCN] The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker - "Dragon Roost Island" (Replacement) by Zunawe
Post by: Zeila on January 27, 2016, 12:02:52 AM
I was thinking of replacing it soon as well, so I'm willing to collaborate with you. I already have two versions (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/tftkpj7426pagfg/AABS5IlqfLhSVeYYsW5_guSga?dl=0) of it, so we can combine one of them with yours if you'd like. If not then here's some advice:
Title: Re: [GCN] The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker - "Dragon Roost Island" (Replacement) by Zunawe
Post by: Tobbeh99 on January 27, 2016, 07:48:30 AM
I made a mus where I updated the formatting as well as some small editing, mostly moving some chords up 1 octave, they sound to muddy that far down in the bass register.

Here it is: [ZIP] (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24842881/Dragon%20Roost%20Island.zip)
Title: Re: [GCN] The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker - "Dragon Roost Island" (Replacement) by Zun
Post by: braix on January 27, 2016, 07:58:40 AM
I've been waiting forever for a good sheet of this song
Soon (tm)
Title: Re: [GCN] The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker - "Dragon Roost Island" (Replacement) by Zunawe
Post by: Latios212 on January 27, 2016, 08:00:00 AM
*patiently waits for Bespinben to post*
Title: Re: [GCN] The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker - "Dragon Roost Island" (Replacement) by Zunawe & Zeil
Post by: Zunawe on January 27, 2016, 01:56:50 PM
Quote from: Tobbeh99 on January 27, 2016, 07:48:30 AMI made a mus where I updated the formatting as well as some small editing, mostly moving some chords up 1 octave, they sound to muddy that far down in the bass register.
Molte grazie. I may mess with formatting again.

Quote from: Zeila on January 27, 2016, 12:02:52 AM
  • I think some of the bass notes are wrong (particularly m45-50, but it might be on other spots as well)
It looks like Tobbeh fixed that. Thanks, again.
Quote from: Zeila on January 27, 2016, 12:02:52 AM
  • While the song repeats with the bass playing, it starts off at the beginning again. Just letting you know
I just listened to it again; it does not. The repeat goes back to when the bass is first introduced. Unless the video I provided does not accurately depict how the music is played in the game.
Quote from: Zeila on January 27, 2016, 12:02:52 AM
  • The song would benefit if you added percussion in the beginning
  • Some accents would be good too
  • There should be a crescendo from m45-52
  • The grace notes should have slurs
I never got around to cleaning up articulations and adding dynamics. Got some of it, still gotta add dynamic changes and claps.
Quote from: Zeila on January 27, 2016, 12:02:52 AM
  • In m72, I don't think that should be a grace note
There are a couple spots a 16th note might be more accurate. I've changed that one, and I'll scan through again at some point to change graces to 16ths.

I used a few of your chords and such. I haven't changed the left hand to eighth notes yet, but if it doesn't sound too muddled I probably will. I also might add your right hand second layer in to parts that feel empty. You're name has been added for collaboration. Double Z's. Tanks for halps.

Updated.
Title: Re: [GCN] The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker - "Dragon Roost Island" (Replacement) by Zunawe & Zeil
Post by: Zeila on January 30, 2016, 09:33:23 PM
Quote from: Zunawe on January 27, 2016, 01:56:50 PMI just listened to it again; it does not. The repeat goes back to when the bass is first introduced. Unless the video I provided does not accurately depict how the music is played in the game.
What I meant is that it repeats through the entire song with the bass. When it gets to around m25/26, it's different. The video you linked is different than the one I looked at (I originally had it repeat where the bass is introduced as well), so I left it the way it is for now. I'm not sure which one is more accurate. Here's the youtube video to show you what I mean:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXGGvsHq6iA

Quote from: Zunawe on January 27, 2016, 01:56:50 PMI never got around to cleaning up articulations and adding dynamics. Got some of it, still gotta add dynamic changes and claps.There are a couple spots a 16th note might be more accurate. I've changed that one, and I'll scan through again at some point to change graces to 16ths.
I added some articulation and dynamics, but not much. I also left it as grace notes for now

Quote from: Zunawe on January 27, 2016, 01:56:50 PMYou're name has been added for collaboration. Double Z's. Tanks for halps.
Cool, thanks! I looked at it more and updated the files with some stuff
Title: Re: [GCN] The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker - "Dragon Roost Island" (Replacement) by Zunawe & Zeil
Post by: Zunawe on January 30, 2016, 10:28:40 PM
I'm reasonably certain that the F and C are nonexistant. Also, I'd trust GilvaSunner's rip concerning looping. The quality is also much better.
Title: Re: [GCN] The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker - "Dragon Roost Island" (Replacement) by Zunawe & Zeil
Post by: mastersuperfan on January 31, 2016, 06:09:38 AM
The F is there; the C is not.

The F is also in m34.
Title: Re: [GCN] The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker - "Dragon Roost Island" (Replacement) by Zunawe & Zeil
Post by: Zunawe on January 31, 2016, 12:53:51 PM
Crap. I just uploaded the wrong sheets into this submission. Sorry.

EDIT: I had the PDF. That one's back.
Title: Re: [GCN] The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker - "Dragon Roost Island" (Replacement) by Zunawe & Zeil
Post by: Bespinben on February 01, 2016, 12:09:33 PM
My biggest concern here is in the nature of the arrangement itself. The transitions between sections are very jagged as a result of the methods used to incorporate various parts and combinations thereof. Try less to think of it as "flute + bass + uke = arrangement", and instead, deducing what the most salient features of those instruments are in order to form a fluid recreation of the work.
Title: Re: [GCN] The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker - "Dragon Roost Island" (Replacement) by Zunawe & Zeil
Post by: Tobbeh99 on February 01, 2016, 12:34:40 PM
As Ben said the transitions sound very stiff and sudden. More specifically, the transitions: m. 26-27, 50-51, 58-59, 76 back to 27. Maybe have some chords (like the ukulele plays), when the long melody note fades out, to make it more smooth. Speaking of ukulele, I think you should incorporate more of that since it have such a big role in the song, if possible so to say.
Title: Re: [GCN] The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker - "Dragon Roost Island" (Replacement) by Zunawe & Zeil
Post by: Zeila on February 23, 2016, 10:48:59 PM
I updated the file with the following changes:

Thanks for the advice! It sounds more fluid imo
Title: Re: [GCN] The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker - "Dragon Roost Island" (Replacement) by Zunawe & Zeil
Post by: Tobbeh99 on February 24, 2016, 08:33:47 AM
measure 49-50, remove the accompaniment G's. That way you're indicating that the high should be held but the lower accompaniment notes should be played. Rather than now when you won't hear the G being held since the accompaniment notes play just after it is struck. 
Title: Re: [GCN] The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker - "Dragon Roost Island" (Replacement) by Zunawe & Zeil
Post by: WandringMinstrel on February 24, 2016, 09:53:57 AM
It makes more sense for the A#s to be Bbs (fits in with a C7 chord, and the flats later on in the piece).
Title: Re: [GCN] The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker - "Dragon Roost Island" (Replacement) by Zunawe & Zeil
Post by: Zeila on February 24, 2016, 01:56:31 PM
I decided to move the Gs down an octave, and I changed the A#s to Bbs
Title: Re: [GCN] The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker - "Dragon Roost Island" (Replacement) by Zunawe & Zeil
Post by: Zeila on March 07, 2016, 03:18:12 PM
bump
Title: Re: [GCN] The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker - "Dragon Roost Island" (Replacement) by Zunawe & Zeil
Post by: Zeila on March 18, 2016, 10:37:33 AM
Bump
Title: Re: [GCN] The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker - "Dragon Roost Island" (Replacement) by Zunawe & Zeil
Post by: Olimar12345 on March 18, 2016, 09:59:58 PM
Wonderful arrangement, can't wait to see it shine on the site! ^^ Few small suggestions before accepting it:

-The hand-clapping is a cool idea, but it comes really close to the entrance of the LH, leaving you with the time between that last eighth note and the next bar to prepare the first chord.
-In the future, the actual text on the page "hand clap (ad lib)" should be made as an expression rather than a text box. This way it would be attached to the desired measure rather than the page and the two would move together.
-The line in measure 25-26 is just barely colliding with the clef change. Care to move that up a tad?
-The mordants in the LH in measures 48 and 50 seem just a tad too high, and at first glance it almost looks like they belong to the second layer of the RH.

Microscopic things, though. Spectacular job and arrangement, guys!

Title: Re: [GCN] The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker - "Dragon Roost Island" (Replacement) by Zunawe & Zeil
Post by: Zeila on March 18, 2016, 10:19:57 PM
Thanks! For the hand clapping, I changed the last beat to a quarter instead of two eighths, but everything else has been fixed accordingly
Title: Re: [GCN] The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker - "Dragon Roost Island" (Replacement) by Zunawe & Zeil
Post by: Olimar12345 on March 18, 2016, 11:35:22 PM
Great work!
Title: Re: [GCN] The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker - "Dragon Roost Island" (Replacement) by Zunawe & Zeila
Post by: Zeta on March 18, 2016, 11:35:32 PM
This submission has been accepted by Olimar12345 (http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?action=profile;u=83).

~Zeta, your friendly NSM-Bot