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Title: The eShop Topic
Post by: Olimar12345 on April 14, 2016, 07:33:07 PM
Another topic I thought we already had (We can merge the two if one exists in a place beyond my ability to find). Post stuff about the eshop here, like new releases or special deals, etc.

New to the eshop today:
-The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
-Super Metroid
-Donkey Kong Country 2

All @ $7.99

Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Olimar12345 on April 14, 2016, 07:34:42 PM
Example post:

Quote from: SlowPokemon on April 08, 2016, 01:26:37 PMAy Virtue's Last Reward is $11.99 for a couple weeks on the 3DS eShop, so if you like plot heavy games or escape the room puzzles, I really recommend downloading it. The sequel, Zero Time Dilemma, is coming out in June, so it's also a good time to play VLR.
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Post by: Altissimo on April 14, 2016, 07:42:32 PM
everyone in the world needs ace attorney trilogy
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Post by: Zeila on April 14, 2016, 08:11:58 PM
I think it's worth noting if it's new 3ds (or even wii u) exclusive or not. I remember that nintendo showed a bunch of snes games (including the ones that olimar mentioned) that will be exclusive to the new 3ds (forgive me if I remembered it incorrectly or they changed their mind or w/e). Just for clarification and stuff in case someone who only has one system gets their hopes up and sees that they can't get it
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Post by: SlowPokemon on April 14, 2016, 08:36:36 PM
Obligatory:
Quote from: SlowPokemon on April 08, 2016, 01:26:37 PMAy Virtue's Last Reward is $11.99 for a couple weeks on the 3DS eShop, so if you like plot heavy games or escape the room puzzles, I really recommend downloading it. The sequel, Zero Time Dilemma, is coming out in June, so it's also a good time to play VLR.

Also, what Altissimo said lol
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Olimar12345 on April 14, 2016, 08:41:59 PM
Lol slow did you miss my post up there?
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Post by: SlowPokemon on April 14, 2016, 08:50:24 PM
Not at all, but I reposted because I wasn't sure if others would notice the date and realize it was still relevant.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Olimar12345 on April 14, 2016, 09:00:31 PM
I would normally respond with something along the lines of "that's absurd, how could someone miss something that obvious?" but nowadays it sadly seems necessary .-.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: mikey on April 14, 2016, 09:28:45 PM
ALttP is already out on Wii U, did it come to 3DS?
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Post by: SlowPokemon on April 14, 2016, 10:36:22 PM
Yeah, but SNES games are New 3DS only.

I have a New 3DS, mind making a case for why I should play ALTTP? I've always found it intriguing.
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Post by: Dudeman on April 14, 2016, 10:46:06 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on April 14, 2016, 10:36:22 PMI've always found it intriguing.
Done.
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Post by: mikey on April 14, 2016, 10:46:47 PM
It's the second or third hardest Zelda game but it's also very enjoyable, the music is great, the people are funny, the world is expansive, and the dungeons are a+.  I've never beaten it, but I've gotten pretty far in it
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Post by: TheDreamingHawk on May 03, 2016, 03:15:22 PM
It's a great game, but I honestly prefer the GBA port more. A bit cleaner to look at, not as muddy and it has better sound effects for the most part. The music took a big hit though.
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Post by: cashwarrior1 on May 03, 2016, 03:16:57 PM
I'm mad that ALTTP is only on the new 3ds. I really want to play that game and I can't because no new 3ds.
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Post by: TheDreamingHawk on May 03, 2016, 03:22:31 PM
Quote from: cashwarrior1 on May 03, 2016, 03:16:57 PMI'm mad that ALTTP is only on the new 3ds. I really want to play that game and I can't because no new 3ds.

Well maybe it's time to upgrade, that could get Nintendo to also make NEW games that are exclusive and use its full power!

But in all seriousness, they are N3DS exclusive because they chug on the original models, as shown here:

https://streamable.com/bfdd
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Post by: cashwarrior1 on May 03, 2016, 04:53:50 PM
I would upgrade if my parents are fine with getting me a new 3DS two years after I got my old one. They probably won't :P.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: mikey on May 03, 2016, 06:13:25 PM
I bought my 3DS when the N3DS was announced, but it still cost me 170
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: SlowPokemon on May 03, 2016, 06:47:42 PM
I upgraded when NN3DS came out and didn't feel guilty because I play my 3DS so much it was worth the money
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Post by: Altissimo on May 03, 2016, 06:49:25 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on May 03, 2016, 06:47:42 PMI upgraded when NN3DS came out and didn't feel guilty because I play my 3DS so much it was worth the money

this and also i got Xenoblade Chronicles 3D which has like 200+ hours so so
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Post by: SlowPokemon on May 03, 2016, 08:41:39 PM
Lol I got it too but I only played it for 15 hours before I realized I've grown to hate JRPGs
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Post by: mikey on May 03, 2016, 08:47:25 PM
ayyy
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Post by: Latios212 on June 18, 2016, 03:41:06 PM
Pokémon Trading Card Game is on sale. I spent hours and hours on this as a kid. Please buy!
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Post by: E. Gadd Industries on June 19, 2016, 03:02:53 AM
I actually saw that yesterday in this video game store I was in. I chose to buy Mario Superstar Baseball.
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Post by: Nitro Indigo on June 19, 2016, 03:49:06 AM
Is Kick & Fennick worth it? It's on sale, but I have a grand total of 19p on my eShop account and can't afford any more right now.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: SlowPokemon on June 19, 2016, 07:20:34 AM
Quote from: Latios212 on June 18, 2016, 03:41:06 PMPokémon Trading Card Game is on sale. I spent hours and hours on this as a kid. Please buy!

This game is really fun, but it's also really niche. If you're not into learning the rules of a pretty deep card game on a tiny GBC screen, I'd recommend going for Pokémon Pinball: Ruby and Sapphire on Wii U instead, which is also discounted (hella discounted if you're a My Nintendo member). This is the Pokémon spinoff I played all the time as a kid, actually completed the Pokédex (or at least all except one or two, I can't remember). I picked it up on this sale and I'm pleased to find that it still plays just as well as it did back then, with a rocking soundtrack and really a pretty addictive control scheme, though I recommend switching to controls where left flipper is B and right flipper is A.

Anyway that's my two cents (or 431, actually). Also on sale this week, I picked up the N64 Paper Mario game on Virtual Console. I figure it's about time I give it a try, though I really wish they'd put out the Super Mario RPG on 3DS or Wii U so I can experience its spiritual predecessor first.

Worth noting once again that Virtue's Last Reward is $12.99 as part of this sale, and honestly having just replayed it the last couple weeks, I can safely say it's one of the best gaming experiences I've ever had. If anyone's on the fence about experiencing an absolutely brilliant narrative and devilishly tricky puzzles, don't even think twice, especially with the sequel out so soon.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: mikey on June 19, 2016, 09:42:58 AM
Minish Cap and A Link to the Past are discounted, I'd recommend getting those instead!
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Post by: cashwarrior1 on June 19, 2016, 10:27:38 AM
But they're only for the New 3DS XL
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Post by: mikey on June 19, 2016, 10:33:36 AM
Wii U
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Post by: E. Gadd Industries on June 19, 2016, 10:52:02 AM
I know this isn't technically eShop, but it deals with paying Nintendo

The 2DS just recently dropped $10 in price, and I'm wondering if it's worth it to get one? As in, what is the purpose of a 2DS?
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: mikey on June 19, 2016, 10:52:47 AM
to play 3DS games for cheap and indestructible
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Post by: Latios212 on June 19, 2016, 11:40:48 AM
Quote from: E. Gadd Industries on June 19, 2016, 10:52:02 AMAs in, what is the purpose of a 2DS?
It makes a great doorstop.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: SlowPokemon on June 19, 2016, 11:48:13 AM
Quote from: E. Gadd Industries on June 19, 2016, 10:52:02 AMI know this isn't technically eShop, but it deals with paying Nintendo

The 2DS just recently dropped $10 in price, and I'm wondering if it's worth it to get one? As in, what is the purpose of a 2DS?

If your reason for not having a 3DS is because they're too expensive, the 2DS is for you.

Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on June 19, 2016, 09:42:58 AMMinish Cap and A Link to the Past are discounted, I'd recommend getting those instead!

Only the Wii U version of A Link to the Past is discounted, not the New Nintendo 3DS version, which is the only place I'd want to play it.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Sebastian on June 19, 2016, 11:54:12 AM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on June 19, 2016, 07:20:34 AMAlso on sale this week, I picked up the N64 Paper Mario game on Virtual Console. I figure it's about time I give it a try
:)
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: mikey on June 19, 2016, 12:20:49 PM
Quote from: Latios212 on June 19, 2016, 11:40:48 AMIt makes a great doorstop.
Thinking about it, this is actually probably true
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Post by: Nitro Indigo on June 19, 2016, 12:32:45 PM
@SlowPokemon: Super Mario Rocket-Propelled Grenade is on the European eShop. Strange.

I'm still thinking about making a video rant about Virtual Console, but my laptop's screen is still broken and I've been using a Wii U to internet for weeks.
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Post by: Maelstrom on June 19, 2016, 01:13:43 PM
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on June 19, 2016, 09:42:58 AMMinish Cap and A Link to the Past are discounted, I'd recommend getting those instead!
Virtue's Last Reward is, in my totally unbiased opinion, objectively better.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: mikey on June 19, 2016, 01:15:32 PM
I've never heard of that game.  It'd be pretty hard for any game from the same time period or even slightly after to be better than ALttP though.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Olimar12345 on June 19, 2016, 01:53:27 PM
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on June 19, 2016, 01:15:32 PMIt'd be pretty hard for any game from the same time period or even slightly after to be better than ALttP though.

This. After playing the train-wreck that 999 was, I seriously doubt the sequel could even come close to ALTTP's magnitude of greatness. It's a classic.
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Post by: SlowPokemon on June 19, 2016, 02:40:05 PM
How was 999 a train wreck 😂
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Post by: SlowPokemon on June 19, 2016, 03:18:46 PM
Lmao like seriously how can you argue 999 is a bad game? It's among the best games I've ever played. Any complaint you might have about it could be applied to another game, Hotel Dusk, that you said you loved.
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Post by: mikey on June 19, 2016, 03:24:49 PM
I've never played em so all I can say is it's really unlikely they'd end up being better than alttp
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Post by: Olimar12345 on June 19, 2016, 03:46:26 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on June 19, 2016, 03:18:46 PMLmao like seriously how can you argue 999 is a bad game?

I've tried to forget that game because it was a waste of my time, but I remember the final straw was dying because some tiny, preteen little girl clean-sliced my arm of with an ax. Like mid-air. Not chopped off while it was against a surface, the bitch creep-ed up behind me and surprised me by chopping my arm off, mid-bone. Really? After all that set-up, something as ridiculous as that is considered a legitimate ending? Really fucking believable in a game that is supposed to be centered around making choices and the story. No one could have seen that coming because it is silly.

Quote from: SlowPokemon on June 19, 2016, 03:18:46 PMIt's among the best games I've ever played.

Lol well there you have it. How many Metroid, Pikmin, or Zelda games have you played? Or more to the point: how could you compare a visual-novel to a Zelda game? :P

Quote from: SlowPokemon on June 19, 2016, 03:18:46 PMHotel Dusk, that you said you loved.

HD was fun but tedious af. I would never put that kind of game (not even really a game, more of a visual novel) above classics that have stood the test of time. I was more salty that the sequel did not get a US release.

In another decade no one will remember the 999 saga, whereas A Link to the Past will continued to be regarded as a timeless classic.


Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: mikey on June 19, 2016, 03:59:10 PM
I would argue 999 isn't very well known already
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: SlowPokemon on June 19, 2016, 04:40:03 PM
Quote from: Olimar12345 on June 19, 2016, 03:46:26 PMI've tried to forget that game because it was a waste of my time, but I remember the final straw was dying because some tiny, preteen little girl clean-sliced my arm of with an ax. Like mid-air. Not chopped off while it was against a surface, the bitch creep-ed up behind me and surprised me by chopping my arm off, mid-bone. Really? After all that set-up, something as ridiculous as that is considered a legitimate ending? Really fucking believable in a game that is supposed to be centered around making choices and the story. No one could have seen that coming because it is silly.

Lol well there you have it. How many Metroid, Pikmin, or Zelda games have you played? Or more to the point: how could you compare a visual-novel to a Zelda game? :P

HD was fun but tedious af. I would never put that kind of game (not even really a game, more of a visual novel) above classics that have stood the test of time. I was more salty that the sequel did not get a US release.

In another decade no one will remember the 999 saga, whereas A Link to the Past will continued to be regarded as a timeless classic.

1. So what I'm hearing is you didn't play the game all the way through? Lmao you only got one ending (which isn't even really an ending, more of a game over)
2. Clover is 20
3. I've played plenty of Zelda and Metroid games. They don't affect my emotions or make me care about characters, and they're more tedious than fun.
4. I never compared 999 to Zelda or Metroid (or really anything else, just said it was among the best games I've ever played).
5. Hotel Dusk is a timeless classic, and so is 999 😂 but only for the people who know about them.
6. You can't use how well known a game is as a reason it's good or bad. That's just stupid and doesn't follow any kind of logic. 999 was released by a small time developer and a small name localization team, as well as not even really being in many stores due to being an M rated game on the NDS. In addition, all of the other games you've mentioned have Nintendo to market them, not to mention them featuring beloved and well known characters.
7. I truly think the Zero Escape franchise will be remembered as classics, especially in their genres, and I wouldn't be surprised if this new release tops a lot of game of the year lists. Virtue's Last Reward alone does too much that's revolutionary for game narratives for them not to be remembered.
And last but not least...
8. "Not even really a game, more of a visual novel." What a fun statement. It plays on a game console, and there's interactivity, so it's a game. Whether it's a game form you can appreciate is another story.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Olimar12345 on June 19, 2016, 06:17:05 PM
With such a long list, not once is that absurd moment I mentioned present. Lol.

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Post by: SlowPokemon on June 19, 2016, 06:29:19 PM
Number 2
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Post by: Olimar12345 on June 19, 2016, 10:53:01 PM
Oh yes thank you for the age clarification. Those extra years are how she pulled off the impossible lmao.
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Post by: mikey on June 20, 2016, 07:05:47 AM
^the fact that she's 20 OBVIOUSLY means she can chop through bone with a single swing of an axe.
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Post by: Maelstrom on June 20, 2016, 08:25:48 AM
It was really sharp, ok?
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Post by: Nebbles on June 20, 2016, 10:33:36 AM
Hey hey, the PMD games are on the eshop now! If you haven't played them yet, go do it.
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Post by: mikey on June 20, 2016, 10:40:06 AM
oh which ones
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Post by: Nebbles on June 20, 2016, 10:40:59 AM
Red/Blue Rescue Team, and Explorers of Sky.
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Post by: mikey on June 20, 2016, 10:45:14 AM
oh how much better is sky than time/darkness
like if time/darkness was a 5, and my threshold (zelda games) are 8, and PSMD was a 9, how much is sky
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Post by: Nitro Indigo on June 20, 2016, 10:50:16 AM
Sky isn't on VC in Europe, but the Rescue Teams have been on there for months. And they be a better fit for 3DS...
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Post by: TheDreamingHawk on June 20, 2016, 10:53:29 AM
They aren't quite available yet, but they will be at 11 AM CST this Thursday.

http://www.nintendo.com/whatsnew/detail/new-pokemon-games-on-the-wii-u-virtual-console-service

I think I know what I'll be streaming this weekend
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Post by: SlowPokemon on June 20, 2016, 10:58:44 AM
Nice! Of course, since I have two of them in working condition, the only one I'll be thinking about getting is RRT eventually. GBA games look so nice on Wii U.
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Post by: Nebbles on June 20, 2016, 11:20:37 AM
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on June 20, 2016, 10:45:14 AMoh how much better is sky than time/darkness
like if time/darkness was a 5, and my threshold (zelda games) are 8, and PSMD was a 9, how much is sky

I'm really biased to Sky, as it's my favorite, but Sky did add in a nice amount of content from Time/Darkness. There's a whole Shaymin storyline, added stories, dungeons, etc. So you get a good amount of new stuff to do.
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Post by: Altissimo on June 20, 2016, 11:21:30 AM
sky is better than time/darkness hands down. i personally like it better than PSMD too but that is a personal preference and may be nostalgia talking

also god i wish i had a wii u
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Post by: JDMEK5 on June 20, 2016, 11:25:30 AM
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on June 20, 2016, 10:45:14 AMoh how much better is sky than time/darkness
like if time/darkness was a 5, and my threshold (zelda games) are 8, and PSMD was a 9, how much is sky
I was wondering this same thing myself. Thanks guys.


Quote from: E. Gadd Industries on June 19, 2016, 10:52:02 AMI'm wondering if it's worth it to get one? As in, what is the purpose of a 2DS?
Quote from: Latios212 on June 19, 2016, 11:40:48 AMIt makes a great doorstop.
In its defense, I have a 2DS and if anyone was gonna be skeptical about it at its release, it was me. I would go one step further than what Slow said:
Quote from: SlowPokemon on June 19, 2016, 11:48:13 AMIf your reason for not having a 3DS is because they're too expensive, the 2DS is for you.
I would say that if the 3D feature is omittable for you, the 2DS is for you. The system is solid (more indestructible as Noc said though not invincible obviously), resolution is often better, it's cheaper, and it may seem like a small thing, but it just fits in your hands so well. I love the triggers especially. 3DS triggers feel so delicate.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: SlowPokemon on June 20, 2016, 11:33:46 AM
Explorers of Sky has a good 15-20 extra hours at least compared to Time and Darkness and it is (in my opinion) probably the best PMD game. The problem is, you've got to get through all of the stuff that's the same as TD before you can really experience the new.
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Post by: mikey on June 20, 2016, 12:07:04 PM
that's fine, cause I don't remember most of it except that I used an action replay to beat dusknoir
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Post by: Nitro Indigo on June 20, 2016, 01:09:13 PM
I own both Time and Sky, but I've sold and re-brought that latter multiple times. Time and Diamond are pretty much the only games from my childhood I still own my original copies of.

Also, shouldn't this thread be called the eShopic?
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: mikey on June 20, 2016, 01:20:43 PM
no
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Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on June 20, 2016, 08:06:01 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on June 19, 2016, 04:40:03 PM3. I've played plenty of Zelda and Metroid games. They don't affect my emotions or make me care about characters, and they're more tedious than fun.
Have you played Metroid Fusion?
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Post by: Nebbles on June 20, 2016, 08:14:44 PM
Majora's Mask has made me care about characters more than most games have.
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Post by: mikey on June 21, 2016, 08:21:45 AM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on June 20, 2016, 08:06:01 PMHave you played Metroid Fusion?
I was young and didn't understand that she was going through grief over someone dying
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Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on June 21, 2016, 05:53:48 PM
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on June 21, 2016, 08:21:45 AMI was young and didn't understand that she was going through grief over someone dying
The brilliance of it, though, is that they create a credible relationship with someone who you never actually see in the game...

Spoiler
EXCEPT YOU DO!
[close]

And then Other M ruined everything.
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Post by: K-NiGhT on June 30, 2016, 08:09:31 AM
Word on the street is that Super Mario RPG is or will be on the WiiU eshop.
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Post by: Nitro Indigo on June 30, 2016, 08:50:36 AM
I'm still waiting for Door to Phantomile to be put on the eShop. You can already get it on the PlayStation Store, and the Wiimake is one of the few Klonoa games that hasn't been digitally re-released, not that there are many.
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Post by: Sebastian on June 30, 2016, 09:19:45 AM
Quote from: K-NiGhT on June 30, 2016, 08:09:31 AMWord on the street is that Super Mario RPG is or will be on the WiiU eshop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IttQ0vpZ4Ec
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Post by: Nitro Indigo on June 30, 2016, 09:48:30 AM
Nothing interesting was added to the European eShop today, unfortunately. There were a lot of games from last week still marked as "new". We've also had Super Mario Rocket-Propelled Grenade for a few months now.
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Post by: SlowPokemon on June 30, 2016, 10:24:57 AM
Graaaaah I'm facing such an irritating decision, I would way rather play Super Mario RPG on my 3DS but it only came to the Wii U eShop. Do I buy it, or wait for it to come to New 3DS Virtual Console?
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Post by: Olimar12345 on June 30, 2016, 10:29:29 AM
99% sure the only reason they're putting these great games on WiiU VC only is to help give the system worth. This sucks because the 3DS is the superior system in terms of a library of games.
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Post by: mikey on June 30, 2016, 11:08:44 AM
but now the Wii U has the better library :^)
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Post by: Olimar12345 on June 30, 2016, 11:35:17 AM
Lol if anything, they're just holding back the 3DS's potential.
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Post by: mikey on June 30, 2016, 12:34:46 PM
it seems like the 3DS will be a top tier system for a while
I hope they keep making games for it for like 5 more years
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Post by: TheDreamingHawk on June 30, 2016, 12:42:09 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on June 30, 2016, 10:24:57 AMGraaaaah I'm facing such an irritating decision, I would way rather play Super Mario RPG on my 3DS but it only came to the Wii U eShop. Do I buy it, or wait for it to come to New 3DS Virtual Console?

N3DS VC games seem to come in packs in Japan, which then come over here a bit later. So far, Japan hasn't gotten any packs with SMRPG in it, so I'd suggest picking up the Wii U VC version now unless you don't mind waiting a few weeks to see if it's in the next pack of SNES VC games.

For reference, the upcoming SNES games for Japan so far are Mega Man X2/X3 and Super Castlevania IV while a bunch of other Konami/Capcom titles are out now, which should come here soon. Hoping for Gradius III myself
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Post by: E. Gadd Industries on June 30, 2016, 01:21:29 PM
Well, you guys are over there discussing SMRPG on VC, and about the console it'll be on, and I'm over here like I have the original cartridge... Heh...
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Post by: Nitro Indigo on June 30, 2016, 01:32:09 PM
Speaking of which, is there such thing as a SNES RPG that was released in its original form in Europe?
Super Mario RPG: Virtual Console.
Final Fantasy 3/6: PS1, then Virtual Console.
Terranigma: Nope.
Does Secret of Mana count as an RPG? I have it on VC, but I got stuck at that part near the start where a bunch of people in a village keep saying the same thing.
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Post by: Nitro Indigo on July 07, 2016, 02:05:10 PM
Sorry for double-posting, but my Wii U says that the eShop is closed for maintenance, but it works just fine on my 3DS and several websites have reported updates. Anyone else (in Europe) having this problem?

Also, still no Door to Phantomile? Did Namco say they'd never re-release the Wii version or something?
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Post by: SlowPokemon on July 07, 2016, 04:15:13 PM
I'm bummed, Europe 3DS got the Professor Layton and the Eternal Diva movie as a download for sale this week and I'd love to have that one on my 3DS. :( Maybe it'll be available in the coming weeks here.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Nitro Indigo on July 07, 2016, 10:43:04 PM
Why does Europe get everything on the eShop first? Not that I'm complaining...

Also, what do you think of this video I made about Virtual Console (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SehEmxqhiKY)?
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Post by: Olimar12345 on July 07, 2016, 11:11:16 PM
Nice video (rather ambiguous link though). I agree with most of your complaints. I personally think Nintendo is withholding GBA and ds from the 3ds eshop to make them WiiU exclusives, given that the wiiu definitely needs all the help it can get. 
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Post by: Nitro Indigo on July 08, 2016, 07:58:21 AM
But surely GameCube games would have the same effect? Anyone here knowledgeable about emulators?
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Altissimo on July 08, 2016, 08:06:02 AM
You kidding? Gamecube was the worst-selling Nintendo console until the Wii U. GBA and DS were massive successes with lots and lots of quality titles. Not to say that the Gamecube didn't, but they were clearly not enough to make people buy the Gamecube.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Nitro Indigo on July 08, 2016, 08:33:28 AM
People won't get a GameCube for GameCube games because it didn't sell well? You might want to re-read your post.

And while it's true the GameCube didn't sell well, there's several desirable GameCube titles that are getting really expensive now. And there are plenty of games on VC that didn't sell well upon their original releases.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Altissimo on July 08, 2016, 09:29:11 AM
no, the implication that since people didn't get a gamecube for gamecube games when it was out (resulting in gamecube not selling well), they probably won't see any need to get gamecube games on wii u now

and that even the quality titles weren't enough to help the gamecube sell in its heyday
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Olimar12345 on July 08, 2016, 09:56:56 AM
The GameCube just wasn't that impressive at the time. Remember, it had to compete with the PS2, a console that supported backwards compatibility of an already huge library of games and also played DVDs and CDs ON TOP of playing new PS2 games. It made more sense to spend around the same amount of money on a system that could do all of that.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Nitro Indigo on July 08, 2016, 09:57:49 AM
>20 million may be low by Nintendo standards, but it's not THAT bad.

I also meant putting GameCube games on the eShop... maybe we'll have to wait until the NX?

Incidentally, the Cube was more powerful than the PS2, apparently, but it had less disc space, meaning that Japanese developers favoured the Station more, since the Xbox didn't sell well in Japan. Nintendo realized that power isn't everything, which is why the Wii isn't HD.
I once said on another thread ages ago that the PS2 was more powerful than the GameCube. Oops.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: TheDreamingHawk on July 08, 2016, 06:47:41 PM
It should also be noted that the whole GCN on VC debate started from a rumor that was started by a lower-position employee at NOA who said they would be available on the Wii U's shop channel, but gave nothing else outside of that. Of course, news sites took that and ran with it as a major news article, which gave lots of people the false assumption that GCN games were confirmed.

That being said, I do hope Codename NX gets GCN Retail downloads, or at the very least have the Wii U/3DS/Codename NX get Turbo-Grafx 16 titles in the US. Those recent ESRB ratings are making me excited for them, darn it
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Nitro Indigo on July 08, 2016, 10:32:53 PM
Codename NX is my favourite strategy RPG.

What happened to all the non-Nintendo consoles on VC, anyway? Apparently Sega have stopped supporting Virtual Console, but that doesn't explain why Sonic Advance is on there in Japan. (It was published by THQ elsewhere.) And what about the others? Licencing issues?

Also, someone on the same thread said that the PS2 has a "dual-core processor"... isn't that the Saturn? Or are CPUs and processors two different things?
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: TheDreamingHawk on July 10, 2016, 07:41:07 AM
That answer is simple: Nobody wanted to support the Wii U VC with that extra work. Sega pretty much implied such when I asked Okunari about it two years ago on Twitter, and Konami is the only one who's shown an interest in adding new systems (MSX and PC Engine in Japan)
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Nitro Indigo on July 10, 2016, 10:45:47 AM
Wait, Konami owns the rights to those...?

It's been years as the Wii U's Virtual Console still looks a lot more barren than the Wii's. While there's the handheld games for some reason, most of the other formats are just a fraction of the original VC library.

(Sidenote: I don't understand the "GBA and DS games on VC will make the Wii U sell better" argument, because you can get a used DS phat or Lite for a lot cheaper.)
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Olimar12345 on July 10, 2016, 11:28:23 AM
Quote from: Nitro Indigo on July 10, 2016, 10:45:47 AMI don't understand the "GBA and DS games on VC will make the Wii U sell better" argument, because you can get a used DS phat or Lite for a lot cheaper.

Think about it: the 3DS eshop and the console itself is far more successful than the WiiU. Just from a VC standpoint, who wouldn't want to have all of their favorite classics at their disposal whenever AND WHEREVER they wanted? With NES, SNES, GB, and GBC games (just speaking Nintendo rn) available, it's pretty obvious that the next great move would be GBA and maybe DS games for handhelds (ignore the ambassador program, as it was just a promotion) and N64 for home consoles. While you CAN "just go get a DS" to play these games, you can also "just go get" a gameboy for GB and GBC games, etc. We aren't just paying for the game when we buy VC games, we're paying to NOT have to hunt for the original system, cart, controllers, etc.: we're paying for the convenience. So, when Nintendo puts what would seem like a natural "next move" for the 3DS VC on the WiiU, it isn't that hard to imagine that they would like to share some of the 3DS' success with their lesser console, even if it means lessening the convenience factor we get with portables.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Altissimo on July 10, 2016, 11:44:59 AM
to add to this: the "why dont u just go get a ds" argument falls apart a bit when you consider that's the entire reason people do emulator machines. to not have 6000 systems they have to interchange and charge and keep in good condition
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Nitro Indigo on July 10, 2016, 11:58:46 AM
Good point. Maybe I'm overthinking this... I don't really know how Nintendo works.
I'm kind of feeling ashamed now...

On an unrelated note, what happened to using VC to export games? Where's my Dream Champ Tournament?
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Altissimo on July 10, 2016, 02:22:26 PM
Here's how nintendo works: they want money. They get money for releasing games. They dont get any money when used games are resold. They do get money when people re-buy old games on modern consoles.
Yes people could just buy gba or ds titles in cart form for an original gba or ds. However neither of these actions make nintendo any money, because gba and ds titles arent (usually) sold nowadays by any nintendo-affiliated vendors. Gba or ds titles released on vc will make nintendo money, because they are being published and distributed by nintendo themselves.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Olimar12345 on July 10, 2016, 03:37:59 PM
You only really need to post this:

Quote from: Altissimo on July 10, 2016, 02:22:26 PMthey want money.

Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Altissimo on July 10, 2016, 03:44:02 PM
Technically yes but i wouldnt be surprised if some people didnt realize they didnt get money from used merchandise, i didnt think about that until comparatively recently so
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Nitro Indigo on July 10, 2016, 11:27:30 PM
Can someone please find the "IT PRINTS MONEY" gif?
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: BlackDragonSlayer on July 11, 2016, 12:05:30 AM
Let's do that together. (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=it+prints+money+gif)
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: WaluigiTime64 on July 11, 2016, 12:20:42 AM
Quote from: Nitro Indigo on July 10, 2016, 11:27:30 PMCan someone please find the "IT PRINTS MONEY" gif?

Which one?

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1042.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb424%2FRonanfalcon%2FNet%2520Images%2FGames%2F3DS-It-Prints-Money.gif&hash=01d93c467672ea39a6bbcc134dfb1de77bbf3ca1)

or

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FKHueIJe.gif&hash=c74f42ea2cec144712de25d4febf5a2d201c313e)

There's also these 2, but they're old
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fvignette3.wikia.nocookie.net%2Funcyclopedia%2Fimages%2F0%2F0d%2FPrints_money.gif%2Frevision%2Flatest%3Fcb%3D20060721101458&hash=6d009627fb94ea0b32f8930c3135deef080c407c)

(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fvignette2.wikia.nocookie.net%2Funcyclopedia%2Fimages%2F3%2F32%2FWii_money.gif%2Frevision%2F20080723093029&hash=7e7cb0775e86fd7acf77f4a42e82242603db52e9)
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Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Nitro Indigo on July 11, 2016, 07:39:07 AM
Quote from: BlackDragonSlayer on July 11, 2016, 12:05:30 AMLet's do that together. (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=it+prints+money+gif)
I was, and am, on a Wii U, and automatic-search-thing doesn't work on it.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: TheDreamingHawk on July 11, 2016, 01:26:07 PM
Quote from: Nitro Indigo on July 10, 2016, 10:45:47 AMWait, Konami owns the rights to those...?

That they do. It's odd seeing Konami publish a game that ended up being made to compete with their own product (TG1G R-TYPE compared to Gradius)

Quote from: Nitro Indigo on July 10, 2016, 10:45:47 AM(Sidenote: I don't understand the "GBA and DS games on VC will make the Wii U sell better" argument, because you can get a used DS phat or Lite for a lot cheaper.)

That argument really doesn't work simply because it isn't true. Heck, VC games don't make a dent in system sales and only really exist to give current owners something to play. The sole reason GBA titles are on Wii U VC instead of 3DS VC is because of compatibility issues with making them run under the fancy dancy VC menu that Nintendo wants all VC systems to use in some way, plain and simple. DS retail downloads only can happen via DSiWare depending on the size of the game, which means that My Nintendo is pretty much the one-stop shop for potential DS downloads for the 3DS.

In all honesty, the VC doesn't need to exist at all as it's no longer used to encourage folks to buy systems. (on the Wii, the VC started off solely as a way to convince folks to connect to the internet before Wiiware burst in and pretty much wrecked the Wii's Virtual Console) Still, it's a great bonus service, and the only thing I wish we would get would be the following:

Turbografx 16 games on a Western VC (Wii U or 3DS, I'll take either)
MSX titles on Western Wii U VC
Sega Master System Games on the Wii U VC and more than the Wii VC, if Sega changes their minds
More Game Gear titles on 3DS VC (They cancelled them because of poor sales from what they said in an interview for the 3D classics)
Crossbuy/discount for owning a NES/SNES title on Wii U and 3DS
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Nitro Indigo on July 11, 2016, 11:03:26 PM
I've heard that the data limit for WiiWare is 20MB; what's the limit for DSiWare? DS games can be 8-512MB big.

Also, even if Nintendo can't get the menu for GBA games, that doesn't explain the Game Boy Micro resolution.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: TheDreamingHawk on July 14, 2016, 12:46:40 PM
I think I heard somewhere that the DSiWare limit was around 12MB or so? Can't remember as its been so long. As for the GBA 3DS titles supporting the original resolution, that's likely because it just uses the same method behind the DS backwards compatibility to shrink the screen.

Speaking of the Virtual Console, not long after I mentioned the ESRB rated games by Konami, they are already out on the Wii U! I Made a video showing off one of the titles, which you can watch below to see it in action.


In Japan, TG16 games were on the 3DS VC for a bit before the service got discontinued over there before the surge of SNES titles this year. Only three titles were released, China Warrior, R-Type and Alien Crush, and out of the three R-Type is the only one in NA to get a modern VC release today.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Nitro Indigo on July 14, 2016, 01:29:45 PM
Wait... American VC games have that console's startup sound on the load screen? DAMMIT!

But DS games played on 3DS are fill up the screens minus the letterboxing... anyone a tech expert?

To be honest, my recent frustrations come from me getting Empire of Dreams on VC, then having to spend the night somewhere else. The game gets very tedious when played in long sessions, and it's designed to be picked up and played wherever.

Also, has everyone basically given up on the downloadable Wii games now? There hasn't been one for months. (And I have to wait at least a week for Klonoa '08 to arrive from the rental service...)
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 14, 2016, 02:42:29 PM
^if you hold down Start or Select while you open a DS game on 3DS, it will display at original resolution.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Nitro Indigo on July 17, 2016, 02:38:43 AM
Even when you don't hold down Start and Select, the GBA games are still letterboxed despite being in widescreen.
(Wait... are the DS' screens 4:3?)

I also got Super Mario Land 2 the other day. Is it just me, or are Mario's jumps a lot "heavier" in this game?
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Nebbles on July 17, 2016, 10:59:14 AM
There's nothing else I really want on the eShop atm, and I have a weird desire to buy EarthBound on my 3ds virtual console so I can play it on the go.

...but I have EB on the Wii U already. I have a problem.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Nitro Indigo on July 17, 2016, 11:49:56 AM
They should've made it so that if you get a game that's on both the 3DS and Wii U, you can transfer the data between the two systems if they share an NNID. Do Sony do something like this?
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Nebbles on July 17, 2016, 11:54:03 AM
Yeah, that'd be nice, and I wouldn't have to buy it again...
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 17, 2016, 11:58:05 AM
Yeah, PlayStation does crossbuy for every game that's available on multiple systems. Wish Nintendo would.

I have EarthBound on both systems lol. But that's mostly because I know I'll never be able to finish it unless it's on a handheld.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Nebbles on July 17, 2016, 12:01:42 PM
Well, I already finished it on Wii U. But I know I'll want to replay it, but having it on the go would be much more convenient.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Nitro Indigo on July 17, 2016, 12:55:51 PM
Well, I once saw a theory that the NX will be called the Nintendo Crossplay.

Speaking of Sony and their crossplay, one PSone Classic (I'd rather call them PS1 Classics, but I digress) is Klonoa: Door to Phantomile. There is a Wiimake of that game, which for some reason is one of the few, if not the only, Klonoa game not available for legal download anywhere in the world on any console. The GBA Klonoa games were added to Wii U Virtual Console two years ago.
Why isn't Klonoa '08 on the eShop? Is it because everyone just abandoned downloadable Wii games, as I theorised earlier? Are Namco ashamed of it because it killed the franchise? Did they just forget about it?

Speaking of poor-selling GBA games from franchises that originated on PS1, I kind of want to see the Spyro GBA trilogy on the eShop, but Activision. (Season of Ice was the first Spyro game - and physical GBA cartridge - I ever played, but it was someone else's copy and I didn't know what I was supposed to do.)
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: mikey on July 17, 2016, 01:10:28 PM
nobody's ever heard of klonoa
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: TheDreamingHawk on July 17, 2016, 01:14:32 PM
Quote from: Nitro Indigo on July 14, 2016, 01:29:45 PMWait... American VC games have that console's startup sound on the load screen? DAMMIT!

Actually, all Wii U VC games use the same generic bootup sound. TG16 titles are the ONLY VC system to have a different sound and that's the Konami Jingle (since Konami owns the system now). The MSX (Japan only) doesn't even get that honor, instead having the default Wii U startup sound because D4 Enterprise was lazy. :P

Quote from: Nitro Indigo on July 17, 2016, 12:55:51 PMKlonoa: Door to Phantomile. There is a Wiimake of that game, which for some reason is one of the few, if not the only, Klonoa game not available for legal download anywhere in the world on any console. The GBA Klonoa games were added to Wii U Virtual Console two years ago.
Why isn't Klonoa '08 on the eShop? Is it because everyone just abandoned downloadable Wii games, as I theorised earlier? Are Namco ashamed of it because it killed the franchise? Did they just forget about it?

The simple answer is because Namco doesn't care for adding games to the Wii Retail Download service (Wii games are not virtual console titles). They don't even have the Namco Museum games for the Wii on the eShop. Klonoa Wii isn't the only Klonoa game to not get re-released BTW. Moonlight Museum, Klonoa 2, Klonoa Heroes and Klonoa Volleyball have never been rereleased on a digital store anywhere in the world.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Nitro Indigo on July 17, 2016, 11:20:46 PM
Namcollection was a PS2 game...?
Also, forgot about those. It was late when I posted that.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: DS on July 21, 2016, 04:32:01 PM
Anyone else here about Nintendo "secretly" releasing Star Fox Zero: The Battle Begins along with Star Fox Guard the Training Mode of Star Fox Zero? Weird that they're putting out this late and trying to salvage the game or something.

Personally, it was great to finally be able to play (at least a small part of) Star Fox Zero for the first time at my friend's house (as he has a Wii U and I don't). Honestly, I still don't know what to think about the motion controls, as sometimes they worked and other times I was just glueing myself too much to either the TV or the Wii U. But, I'm still not paying for a Wii U just to buy SFZ, waiting for Star Fox NX instead (I can dream...)
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: mikey on July 21, 2016, 04:50:28 PM
6 games that make the wii U worth it:
Super Mario Maker
Splatoon
Wind Waker HD
Mario Kart 8
Star Fox 0 (in your case anyway)
Super Smash Bros. Wii U
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 21, 2016, 10:04:38 PM
^also, Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker. It's my personal favorite game on Wii U.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Olimar12345 on July 21, 2016, 11:22:23 PM
Forget the lame toad spinoff, he left off Pikmin 3 and Super Mario 3D World! D:<
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: E. Gadd Industries on July 22, 2016, 04:50:37 AM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on July 21, 2016, 10:04:38 PM^also, Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker. It's my personal favorite game on Wii U.
Honestly, I think it would be a good game if it weren't beaten so easily (and you could actually FIGHT bosses)

Quote from: Olimar12345 on July 21, 2016, 11:22:23 PMForget the lame toad spinoff, he left off Pikmin 3 and Super Mario 3D World! D:<
D: yes, Pikmin 3 & SM3DW also need to be on the list!
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Nitro Indigo on July 22, 2016, 07:42:00 AM
Is it bad that the only high-profile Wii U games I've played are TWWHD, Sm4sh, and Splatoon, and I sold the Sm4sh the other week?
I've also heard that Pokkén and Wooly World are pretty good.
I once saw someone on Zelda Universe complain that there wasn't an EarthBound game or main Pokémon game on Wii U. What...?

I'm disappointed that Klonoa '08 will never be put on the eShop, because used copies are really rare and I don't know when the copy I rented will arrive. The rental site thinks the game came out less than six months ago, for some reason.

For that matter, there's not much third-party support on Virtual Console; there's a few things like Game Gear and TurboGrafx-16, and Namco's GBA games, but not much else that I'm aware of.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Maelstrom on July 22, 2016, 08:15:44 AM
You could just emulate it.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Nitro Indigo on July 22, 2016, 09:05:48 AM
1) My laptop is broken right now.
2) I don't like using emulators.
3) I don't even know if there's a Wii emulator.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Altissimo on July 22, 2016, 11:15:16 AM
Quote from: Nitro Indigo on July 22, 2016, 09:05:48 AM3) I don't even know if there's a Wii emulator.

https://lmgtfy.com/?q=Wii+emulator

It is truly not hard to find things on the Internet. That being said, your other two points are legit
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: mikey on July 22, 2016, 12:07:50 PM
Quote from: Olimar12345 on July 21, 2016, 11:22:23 PMForget the lame toad spinoff, he left off Pikmin 3 and Super Mario 3D World! D:<

I just named a few and said six.  Never played toad/pikmin 3 and super mario 3D world sucked
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: WaluigiTime64 on July 22, 2016, 12:59:01 PM
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on July 22, 2016, 12:07:50 PMsuper mario 3D world sucked

Fight me
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Nitro Indigo on July 22, 2016, 01:15:03 PM
I just remembered Hyrule Warriors, too. Not sure what you people think of it, mind.
Literally the only Wii U games I've ever owned are the three I mentioned in a previous post, and Epic Mickey 2, which I didn't play much and sold years ago. I mainly play Virtual Console games. DX
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 22, 2016, 02:21:30 PM
Quote from: Olimar12345 on July 21, 2016, 11:22:23 PMForget the lame toad spinoff, he left off Pikmin 3 and Super Mario 3D World! D:<

Captain Toad wasn't lame, it was actually a lot better and more creative than 3D World. #FightMe

Quote from: E. Gadd Industries on July 22, 2016, 04:50:37 AMHonestly, I think it would be a good game if it weren't beaten so easily (and you could actually FIGHT bosses)
D: yes, Pikmin 3 & SM3DW also need to be on the list!

Lmao it was developed as a puzzle platformer in which you have no weapons and can't jump. Puzzling your way past the bosses instead of having to jump on them or attack them is literally the point of the game. Also yeah, it's not hard to reach the initial credits, but you realize that there are three different sets of levels right? I found the game really awesome and challenging.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Nitro Indigo on July 22, 2016, 02:37:52 PM
SlowPokemon, what do you think of the Captain Toad stages in 3D World?
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Post by: E. Gadd Industries on July 22, 2016, 02:59:49 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on July 22, 2016, 02:21:30 PMAlso yeah, it's not hard to reach the initial credits, but you realize that there are three different sets of levels right?
You talking about the different sets where
Not quite sure if this is needed, but oh well, it's just an extra click.
the first is Toad, the second is Toadette, the third going back to Toad, and then  a few secret unlockable stages if you 100% the gem collection?
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Post by: SlowPokemon on July 22, 2016, 03:59:08 PM
^yeah, that's basically what I meant haha. Adds up to 60 levels in the main game plus a bunch of post game ones. All of them are super cool and unique too. At least in my opinion.

Quote from: Nitro Indigo on July 22, 2016, 02:37:52 PMSlowPokemon, what do you think of the Captain Toad stages in 3D World?

Ironically, I don't like them very much. The Treasure Tracker levels are a lot more imaginative.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Olimar12345 on July 22, 2016, 04:53:46 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on July 22, 2016, 02:21:30 PMit was actually a lot better and more creative than 3D World. #FightMe

But 3D world had cat suits; your argument is now invalid. (https://youtu.be/xL___PlhOrA)
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 22, 2016, 06:09:56 PM
SHIT
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: E. Gadd Industries on July 27, 2016, 04:51:27 AM
Well, for those in Japan, Pokémon Ranger Shadows of Almia & Guardian Signs have been released here recently. I LOVED playing Guardian Signs, but I have a tangible copy, so when it comes to US I won't get it.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Nitro Indigo on July 27, 2016, 07:10:49 AM
When I was younger, I thought Shadows of Almia was the worst game I ever played, but I'm now starting to appreciate it because of LuckySevenDX's LP of it a couple of years ago that I recently started rewatching.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 27, 2016, 07:12:08 AM
Shadows of Almia was my favorite Ranger game because I actually 100% completed all of it, the quests and browser and everything. I had a good time with it.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Nitro Indigo on July 27, 2016, 07:17:01 AM
I was always more of a Mystery Dungeon person myself, but my dislike of Shadows of Almia stems from me being terrible at video games back then. It was in about 2008, or so.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: E. Gadd Industries on July 27, 2016, 07:24:23 AM
I have actually never played Shadows of Almia. I have the original and Guardian Signs, though
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Post by: Nitro Indigo on July 27, 2016, 07:36:30 AM
Before it came out, I thought Guardian Signs was a Gen 5 game.
Speaking of which, is there any reason why it's the last Ranger game? Did they always plan for it to be a trilogy? From what I know, the sales and reception were similar to the first two...

In one episode of Pokémon Advanced (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/AG152), they changed the Japanese opening to show the boxarts of PMD1. With Ranger assumed dead, PMD taking place in an alternate universe, and most of the spinoffs nowadays being freeniums, they don't really promote spinoffs in the anime any more. =/
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: TheDreamingHawk on July 27, 2016, 01:11:13 PM
Quote from: Nitro Indigo on July 27, 2016, 07:36:30 AMBefore it came out, I thought Guardian Signs was a Gen 5 game.
Speaking of which, is there any reason why it's the last Ranger game? Did they always plan for it to be a trilogy? From what I know, the sales and reception were similar to the first two...

In one episode of Pokémon Advanced (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/AG152), they changed the Japanese opening to show the boxarts of PMD1. With Ranger assumed dead, PMD taking place in an alternate universe, and most of the spinoffs nowadays being freeniums, they don't really promote spinoffs in the anime any more. =/

I honestly can't believe that I've never noticed the MD reference in the intro. I don't know why they didn't add it into the english into (then again, our XY dub STILL has serena's old design in the title card despite it being nearly 50 episodes old by now)
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Nitro Indigo on July 27, 2016, 02:19:09 PM
I sometimes like to entertain the idea of a Pokémon 3D platformer spinoff with a similar tone to Spyro, even though I know barely anything about the classic series. Speaking of which, it's a shame Activision doesn't support Virtual Console, because I'd like to see the Spyro GBA trilogy on there. (Season of Ice was the first Spyro game I ever played, but only for a few minutes.)
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Dudeman on July 28, 2016, 03:02:53 PM
Kirby's Epic Yarn and Mass Attack come to the VC tomorrow. I can't speak for Mass Attack, but KEY is adorable and lots of cute fun so I highly recommend it if you've never tried it.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Altissimo on July 28, 2016, 03:26:05 PM
Mass Attack is very much not a standard Kirby game. It also relies heavily on the touch screen gimmick, though in a not-so-gimmicky-feeling way. It's pretty cutesy, but don't be fooled: it's one of the hardest Kirby games to 100% complete and even some of the regular levels can be more challenging than you'd expect. It has a shitton of minigames (most of which have a lot of content!) and a good many gimmicky levels, so there's a lot of variety in there. It's an extremely solid game, in my opinion. Just... don't expect Kirby-style gameplay out of it.

Epic Yarn though is a must-have for everyone in the world
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Nebbles on July 28, 2016, 03:30:13 PM
Yes, I agree. Epic Yarn is a must-have.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: TheDreamingHawk on July 28, 2016, 03:56:50 PM
I'm gonna be in the minority again and state my honest opinion that KEY is NOT worth it for Kirby fans unless you really like to go at a slower pace compared to other Kirby games. I still have vivid memories of getting it for Christmas 2010 and being attracted by the cute artstyle, only to be incredibly disappointing due to how offensively easy it was. I typically play Kirby games as a means to relax or to take my time and complete each game, sometimes going for 100% to get the most out of the series, but KEY was just so upsetting to me solely because you couldn't die, making any effort pointless unless you want a fancy dancy medal. I didn't tend to care for the level designs too much either. (Save for the final world, which was a neat throwback IMO)

Once I beat the game and had zero fun whatsoever (even in co-op) I never wanted to touch the game ever again, and I'm incredibly happy that when Yoshi's Woolly World came out they fixed the major gripes I had with KEY by making it more of a challenging and relaxing game all at the same time while also making it into a Yoshi game that was actually the first good one since SMA3. Still, Kirby's Epic Yarn is my least favorite Kirby Game of all time mainly because of how dull it ended up being compared to Super Star Ultra (the most recent Kirby game I played before KEY) or even the VC titles that were available.

That being said, Kirby's Dream Course is another Kirby title I dislike for ironically the opposite reason, which is because it's way too cheap and unfair to play unless you play the local multiplayer. (which is a blast and IMO the only thing that saves the game from being one I hate. Sadly 3DS VC doesn't support proper multiplayer.) Honestly I'm kinda sad the 3DS got the short end of the stick when it comes to Kirby games, only really having Kirby's Dream Land, 3D Classics Adventure and Star Stacker as their "Good" Kirby titles. Hopefully DL3 and Super Star come to remedy that a bit (And Avalanche if Sega allows it).

I will say though that Mass Attack, along with Canvas Curse are two of the four major Kirby titles I've never played before, so I'll probably grab MA once I clear my backlog a bit (unless Canvas Curse comes out before I do so) Disappointing Kirby Week for me considering we only got one VC game for both systems and a Retail Download of a poor game, but I'll just place faith that Mass Attack is better than the other two titles and makes up for it for when I eventually purchase the game.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Olimar12345 on July 28, 2016, 04:09:46 PM
Quote from: TheDreamingHawk on July 28, 2016, 03:56:50 PMI'm gonna be in the minority again and state my honest opinion that KEY is NOT worth it for Kirby fans unless you really like to go at a slower pace compared to other Kirby games. I still have vivid memories of getting it for Christmas 2010 and being attracted by the cute artstyle, only to be incredibly disappointing due to how offensively easy it was. I typically play Kirby games as a means to relax or to take my time and complete each game, sometimes going for 100% to get the most out of the series, but KEY was just so upsetting to me solely because you couldn't die, making any effort pointless unless you want a fancy dancy medal. I didn't tend to care for the level designs too much either. (Save for the final world, which was a neat throwback IMO)

THANK YOU

Also, I totally agree: Dream Course is an amazing multiplayer experience, but that is all it really has to offer, making it's 3DS VC port a waste. : /
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 28, 2016, 04:28:06 PM
I also don't love Epic Yarn. Lovely wonderful art style, boring to play. Even for a collector like me who enjoys relaxing games.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: mikey on July 28, 2016, 04:29:16 PM
I've never played it, but I like easy games
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Latios212 on July 28, 2016, 04:30:39 PM
Mass attack is pretty great, I agree! The touch interface worked very well and I enjoyed it more than I expected. Level design is fun and yeah, the minigames add lots of content. I spent hours on that pinball game...
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Nebbles on July 28, 2016, 04:36:35 PM
I should just take a shot every time someone bitches at how easy Epic Yarn is. I'd die of alcohol poisoning, but whatever.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Altissimo on July 28, 2016, 04:37:03 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on July 28, 2016, 04:36:35 PMI should just take a shot every time someone bitches at how easy Epic Yarn is. I'd die of alcohol poisoning, but whatever.

nah, we can alternate
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Nebbles on July 28, 2016, 04:38:31 PM
sweet
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Dudeman on July 28, 2016, 04:43:31 PM
I don't drink but I'm with ya in spirit.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Sebastian on July 28, 2016, 04:51:39 PM
Ow. That pun hurt my soul.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Olimar12345 on July 28, 2016, 05:02:23 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on July 28, 2016, 04:36:35 PMI should just take a shot every time someone bitches at how easy Epic Yarn is. I'd die of alcohol poisoning, but whatever.

Well, it IS the crippling aspect of it.... What do you expect?
 
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Nebbles on July 28, 2016, 05:07:47 PM
I don't mind it, though. I guess I just take it to heart because Epic Yarn's my go-to game if I'm having really bad anxiety or stress. It does a great job at calming me down and uplifting my mood, so seeing people tear at it hurts.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Altissimo on July 28, 2016, 05:18:18 PM
it's a kirby game

the ENTIRE SERIES is based around the idea of easier, more accessible platformers for kids

i don't think nebbles is saying, and certainly i'm not saying, that it isn't easy, but rather that, if that's what you choose to complain about, you are missing the entire point of the franchise. you might as well be complaining that there's not enough story in super smash brothers like seriously

and yes, i am very much aware that epic yarn is easier than other kirby games (though that is a classification i would debate to high hell, 100% is very much not easy), but i really don't think that is a valid cause for concern. that's kind of the point of this specific game?

if you complain about it having the kirby moniker - as in, such an easy game shouldn't be called kirby - then i can understand that, not agree with but understand, but complaining that an intentionally-easy game is easy is pretty stupid imo

and just to clarify, i'm not saying disliking easy games is stupid. you can dislike easy games all you want. you can dislike hard games all you want. whatever. i'm saying complaining about an obviously easy game being easy when that is not to your taste, is dumb. there's a marked difference between saying "this game is too easy, i'm not a fan of easy games like this" and saying "this game is too easy, that's dumb, it's a bad game for being so easy" and the latter is what the comments here seem to be like
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: SlowPokemon on July 28, 2016, 05:18:32 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on July 28, 2016, 05:07:47 PMI don't mind it, though. I guess I just take it to heart because Epic Yarn's my go-to game if I'm having really bad anxiety or stress. It does a great job at calming me down and uplifting my mood, so seeing people tear at it hurts.

Easy is fine, I just personally found it boring, which is not fine. I'm not "bitching," it's a lovely atmosphere and sound and aesthetic, but playing it doesn't do much for me personally. I respect your love for it though (also critics love the hell out of it if it makes you feel any better).
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Dudeman on July 28, 2016, 05:21:42 PM
Quote from: Altissimo on July 28, 2016, 05:18:18 PMif you complain about it having the kirby moniker - as in, such an easy game shouldn't be called kirby - then i can understand that, not agree with but understand, but complaining that an intentionally-easy game is easy is pretty stupid imo
It's also important to note that the game wasn't originally pitched as a Kirby game, and Prince Fluff was the original lead. There's a good reason why it doesn't feel like a Kirby game at heart. Still a good time, though.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Altissimo on July 28, 2016, 05:23:35 PM
Quote from: Dudeman on July 28, 2016, 05:21:42 PMIt's also important to note that the game wasn't originally pitched as a Kirby game, and Prince Fluff was the original lead. There's a good reason why it doesn't feel like a Kirby game at heart. Still a good time, though.

yeah, that's why i made a point to note "complaining about having the kirby moniker", because its origin story is the entire reason it is easier than most of the franchise.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: TheDreamingHawk on July 28, 2016, 09:08:03 PM
If being easy makes the game boring to play, then it's not a fun game for me, period. If the entire game was as well designed as the final world I would have liked it a bit more, but the whole rest of the game is just a boring chore for me IMO and I think that's what hurts the game the most. It's the same problem I have with Dream Land 2 (Along with the inability to run for some stupid reason)
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Altissimo on July 28, 2016, 09:10:55 PM
ok but does it hurt the game that you think the rest of it is a boring chore or does it hurt your perception of/experience with the game because there is an important distinction
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Olimar12345 on July 28, 2016, 09:26:56 PM
I think the game was too focused on the visual assets and gimmicks that the gameplay often seemed neglected, as if at times you were doing things "just because of yarn and fabric: yay!" I also think the difficulty hurt the game because at that point the enjoyment was essentially coming from collecting the beads and getting high-scores, but lol no one has cared about high scores since the Atari 2600. In this sense, I would also use the word "chore" to describe how that game felt. There was just no point: at least in mario games when the story is "save X from Y," the gameplay is there to create the real experience (the platforming). KEY felt like a mario plot but with no pits to fall down, koopas to stop you, or time limit : /

The whole experience was so meh to me. I think when the story doesn't succeed to draw you in its then up to the actual gameplay to finish the job, when evaluating the success of a game. Unfortunately, the gameplay was mediocre at best and the level design was boring as shit, like I said above being too wrapped up in the fabric/yarn gimmick.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: mikey on July 28, 2016, 09:29:03 PM
wait, kirby games are supposed to be hard?
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Olimar12345 on July 28, 2016, 09:29:47 PM
Believe it or not, you could get a game over in Kirby's Dream Land.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: mikey on July 28, 2016, 09:31:01 PM
literally the only kirby game I've played was SSU and that was like 5 years ago, I don't remember how difficult it was

well and Kirby's Air Ride but that game doesn't seem to be the type where a challenge can exist
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Altissimo on July 28, 2016, 09:32:22 PM
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on July 28, 2016, 09:29:03 PMwait, kirby games are supposed to be hard?

well i dont know what your definition of hard is since i know you like easy games but kirby games are intended to be easy by platform standards.

that being said, many of them have extra options that make the game a lot harder. so it depends on how you play
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Nitro Indigo on July 29, 2016, 02:59:31 AM
I realised this morning that the font they use for the new Pokémon icons on the 3DS eShop is the GBA font. Nice detail!
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: TheDreamingHawk on August 10, 2016, 09:32:11 PM
That odd feeling when you've been refreshing Nintendo's eShop website for the entire evening and the game you hoped would be from the Turbografx 16 is instead Wave Race 64 (https://seafoamgaming.com/2016/08/10/wave-race-64-coming-to-wii-u-virtual-console-in-north-america-tomorrow).

I honestly don't know how good this game is. I hear it's better than the GCN one, but pretty foggy and dull? Should I spend the $10? I was hoping they would put the GB version on the 3DS VC before they discontinued everything that wasn't a SNES game, but they never got around to it.

(And in case folks are wondering, I posted a link to my article on it solely because I took a screenshot of the description in the odd case NOA pulls the hub page link before tomorrow, and also because I was the first one on the internet to even notice it. I guess this game is just a dust collector compared to other N64 games)
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Dudeman on September 06, 2016, 09:59:02 PM
I really didn't know where else to post this so [shrug]

http://www.nintendoprime.com/axiom-verge-could-have-had-a-samus-cameo-but-nintendo-decided-against-it/

Firstly, cool, Samus almost got in the game but didn't because...reasons?
Secondly, HOLY CRAP THAT IS THEDREAMINGHAWK'S QUESTION
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: mikey on September 09, 2016, 01:33:15 PM
I'm so glad we can finally play super Mario 64 DS Wii U
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: TheDreamingHawk on September 09, 2016, 03:14:19 PM
Quote from: Dudeman on September 06, 2016, 09:59:02 PMI really didn't know where else to post this so [shrug]

http://www.nintendoprime.com/axiom-verge-could-have-had-a-samus-cameo-but-nintendo-decided-against-it/

Firstly, cool, Samus almost got in the game but didn't because...reasons?
Secondly, HOLY CRAP THAT IS THEDREAMINGHAWK'S QUESTION

I AM EVERYWHERE. THERE'S NO ESCAPE.

In all seriousness though I was bummed to find that out although Axiom Verge is a great game nevertheless. Currently playing through it blindly on my channel and enjoying it so far. I just wish NCL was not so picky and grumpy...
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Trainer Ave on September 22, 2016, 08:34:21 AM
Is the Wii shop even still working?
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Olimar12345 on September 22, 2016, 08:40:03 AM
Friends and I successfully used it a few months ago. Maybe.

Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Trainer Ave on September 22, 2016, 08:42:01 AM
I just bought a Wii a few months ago and was wondering if I should bother with getting points. Thank you.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: mikey on September 22, 2016, 09:23:54 AM
Yes, it's still working.  The Internet channel and Wii Shop Channel still work.  Other channels such as the Check Mii Out channel don't
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Nitro Indigo on September 22, 2016, 01:07:44 PM
I got Secret of Mana on my Wii U via Wii Mode about a year ago, but I don't know what I'm supposed to do in that game.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: The Deku Trombonist on September 22, 2016, 01:47:49 PM
possible hint
Did you get the sword?
[close]
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: mikey on December 04, 2016, 02:56:47 PM
So my sister is getting me an e shop card for Christmas.  I have no idea what value it is, but if its more than 10 dollars I'll be able to get more than just minish cap.  Anyone have more mainstream recommendations that I might like?
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: SlowPokemon on December 04, 2016, 03:22:00 PM
A few of my favorite eShop games:

Wii U
Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga (Virtual Console)
Super Mario 64 (Virtual Console)
Year Walk

3DS
Attack of the Friday Monsters! A Tokyo Tale
BOXBOY!
Crimson Shroud
HarmoKnight
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Trilogy (the best game you can buy for your money imo)
Picross e or any of the sequels (Picross e6 has the most content)
Pokémon Trading Card Game (Virtual Console)
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Maelstrom on December 04, 2016, 04:25:04 PM
Quote from: SlowPokemon on December 04, 2016, 03:22:00 PMPhoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Trilogy (the best game you can buy for your money imo)
This is very true.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: mikey on December 04, 2016, 04:32:37 PM
Any adventure/puzzle type stuff?  I was a fan of shovel knight which I'm told is similar to mega man?
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Post by: Maelstrom on December 04, 2016, 04:43:53 PM
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on December 04, 2016, 04:32:37 PMAny adventure/puzzle type stuff?  I was a fan of shovel knight which I'm told is similar to mega man?
Oh, you would love it. The devs are great; so far they've given out one free expansion which is basically a whole new playable character which changes just about everything in the game and a 3rd one coming out in the spring.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Nebbles on December 04, 2016, 07:27:09 PM
Shovel Knight is GREAT! I absolutely recommend it.
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Post by: Dudeman on December 04, 2016, 08:49:18 PM
Quote from: Nebbles on December 04, 2016, 07:27:09 PMShovel Knight is GREAT! I absolutely recommend it.
(https://www.ninsheetmusic.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fserebii.net%2Fart%2Fth%2F79.png&hash=5d67f58e592796056f8edfd704ebf49b51d6d09f)




JK, JK. Better late than never.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: SlowPokemon on December 04, 2016, 08:57:37 PM
Throwback to when that was my avatar
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Post by: EFitTrainr on December 04, 2016, 11:16:40 PM
I also recommend Shovel Knight. I'm still trying to beat it, but I'm also bad at video games.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: mastersuperfan on January 18, 2017, 03:56:56 PM
http://www.nintendo.com/whatsnew/detail/january-digital-deals-select-digital-games-on-sale

Quite a few eShop games are on sale right now (supposedly for My Nintendo members only but some non-members have reported seeing the sales in the shop too, and you could just sign up for My Nintendo either way).

I picked up Hatsune Miku: Project Mirai DX and I'm loving it. Strongly recommend it to anyone who likes rhythm games. Even if Project Mirai DX seems overly simplistic for a rhythm game, it's one of the most satisfying ones I have every played.
Title: Re: The eShop Topic
Post by: Olimar12345 on January 18, 2017, 04:31:02 PM
Sweet, I've been wanting to pick up Freedom Planet and Severed.