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Title: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements - Nevermind
Post by: Davey on July 03, 2008, 11:28:16 AM
nevermind
Title: Re: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements
Post by: MasterPenguin on July 03, 2008, 11:34:43 AM
lol.
Title: Re: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements
Post by: starpikachu on July 03, 2008, 12:38:53 PM
I was wondering when you'd make an arrangement...

lol x2. That must be the shortest piece of music ever. :D

I found this uber-awesome Hikari orchestration a few days ago. (http://www.finalfantasymusicscores.com/FFMS/-KH-Overture-4Band)
Title: Re: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements
Post by: iDOWN on July 03, 2008, 01:35:27 PM
The rhythm is completely wrong. Is it just my computer or does it start delayed? That may be why it sounds wrong to me.
Title: Re: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements
Post by: Nintendude73 on July 03, 2008, 03:26:11 PM
The rhythm sounds off for me, too. :-\
Title: Re: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements
Post by: Akiro on July 03, 2008, 04:02:44 PM
Didn't pumpy_heart do this before?

Besides, like said above, the rhythm is wrong.
Title: Re: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements
Post by: Beethoven II on July 03, 2008, 07:41:44 PM
Composed by nintendo ???
Title: Re: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements
Post by: Davey on July 03, 2008, 10:14:47 PM
Yeah, nintendo. that's all I could get. I googled it for about a half an hour and that is all brawl said (which is from what I arranged it.)
Title: Re: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements
Post by: Gooch on July 04, 2008, 11:42:58 AM
probably Nobuo Uematsu. He's done so much, you almost expect him to be the composer.
Title: Re: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements
Post by: Requiem on July 04, 2008, 02:07:57 PM
According to Wikipedia, Shigeru Miyamoto arranged the original song. ;D
Title: Re: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements
Post by: Composer #40 on July 04, 2008, 08:14:06 PM
According to the Mp3 I have of the song it's: Yukio Kaneoka, Shigeru Miyamoto.

Got the Mp3 from these people (http://videogamescrapbook.com) who seem to know to much > make up crap.
Title: Re: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements
Post by: Davey on July 04, 2008, 09:47:45 PM
I fixed the composer but can you guys help out with the rhythm? I can't figure it out  ???
Title: Re: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements
Post by: Requiem on July 04, 2008, 10:29:31 PM
Here: 25m BGM (http://www.mediafire.com/?hvt7jjl1w1w)

It's a little more accurate methinks.
Title: Re: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements
Post by: DBJack on July 05, 2008, 10:09:04 AM
Haha 1 measure!

It sounds pretty good! There will never be a shorter song to rival it.
Title: Re: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements
Post by: Akiro on July 05, 2008, 12:19:38 PM
pumpy_heart's is more accurate...which no one deemed to notice... (http://www.mediafire.com/?jmibfb02ndn)

Except I don't know why there is ppp on it.....
Title: Re: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements
Post by: Davey on July 05, 2008, 01:07:52 PM
pumpy_heart's isn't correct. The lowest note in the song is a Bb and he has an A.

I like the rhythm, Requiem, Thanks! I am going to use that one. I will change it a little bit because technically that is yours.
Title: Re: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements
Post by: iDOWN on July 05, 2008, 01:49:32 PM
Quote from: DaveyTheRebel on July 05, 2008, 01:07:52 PMpumpy_heart's isn't correct. The lowest note in the song is a Bb and she has an A.

I like the rhythm, Requiem, Thanks! I am going to use that one. I will change it a little bit because technically that is yours.

That's because you're in a different key than pumpy_heart...

By the way pumpy is a guy. o.O;;
Title: Re: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements
Post by: Akiro on July 05, 2008, 02:44:44 PM
Making the arrangement 1 measure long and adding like 2 staccatos in don't change the rhythm that much..

Besides, there are no chords in that song.
Title: Re: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements
Post by: Requiem on July 05, 2008, 03:14:37 PM
Quote from: DaveyTheRebel on July 05, 2008, 01:07:52 PMI like the rhythm, Requiem, Thanks! I am going to use that one. I will change it a little bit because technically that is yours.

Your welcome. ;D I'd assume it's still yours cuz I used your notes.

EDIT: Nice slurrage. ;P
Title: Re: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements
Post by: Davey on July 05, 2008, 03:53:44 PM
Yeah, I know that there are no chords in that song but I wanted to MAKE IT AN ARRANGED VERSION. NOT EXACTLY THE SAME.

Also, I thought slurs would make it sound cooler.
Title: Re: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements
Post by: Echo on July 05, 2008, 04:33:53 PM
Despite the fact that we call it arranging, the goal of the site is to make the sheets more like transcriptions iirc...

Anyways, first note should be a staccato quarter with a eighth rest after. I think all the following notes should be played with the left hand. Key sig's F Major. The last three notes shouldn't be slurred either. Tempo's way too slow as well, 200ish sounds more accurate.

Oh, and just to clarify, I'm going by this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFOZLt5H22Y) version of the song (Brawl), since that's the one I found with the right key. The NES version is slower and in a different key.
Title: Re: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements
Post by: iDOWN on July 05, 2008, 04:40:53 PM
The point is to make it as close to the origanal as possible. NinSheetMusic is a place where users can come and get sheet music of their favorite video game songs, not your version of the song. If there are no chords in the origanal, then there should be no chords in your arrangement. If there are no slurs (That doesn't make a difference considering a piano is not a wind instrument) then put no slurs. It's pointless seeing as this is a piano arrangement. Last time I checked, a piano is not a wind instrument. If you want a slur effect, use the pedal marking.

If you want your sheet on the site, you'd probably have to change it. Now, if this is just for fun, by all means, do what you want, but don't expect to get a sheet accepted unless it's like the origanal.

Now, don't be stubburn. Take the critisism, and learn from it. It's not meant to be an insult. It's a chance to improve.
Title: Re: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements
Post by: Echo on July 05, 2008, 04:54:41 PM
No, there's a slur technique for the piano. I can't explain it well though... Won't even try actually.

Also, there's also the use of the slur tool to indicate phrase markings rather than actual slurs. Finale NotePad can't make the distinction between the two though iirc.
Title: Re: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements
Post by: iDOWN on July 05, 2008, 04:57:01 PM
Yeah, I need a better explaination than that, no offense. xDD
That's why it didn't sound different when I took off the slurs.

Well, in any case, it's still not supposed to be there.
Title: Re: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements
Post by: Davey on July 05, 2008, 05:05:23 PM
Yeah, instead of playing all sticato-ey to slur you pick up your finger a little later after pressing the next key... I could've put it with the pedal but when I played it with it the pitches blended together and it sounded messy.
Title: Re: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements
Post by: Akiro on July 05, 2008, 05:08:18 PM
I feel no need to argue any further, if NSM is going to have sheets their way, then let them.
Title: Re: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements
Post by: Gooch on July 06, 2008, 10:33:59 AM
not to completely change the subject, but, YAY you finally got rid of the weird cat picture as your icon. now its something so much more pleasing to the eye. anyhoo, back to the subject.
Title: Re: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements
Post by: Nintendude73 on July 06, 2008, 11:56:47 AM
Well now the rhythm is correct at least.  However, I really don't feel that the slur and chord are necessary.  Plus your formatting is incorrect, so rejected for now.
Title: Re: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements
Post by: Davey on July 06, 2008, 05:13:47 PM
Quote from: Nintendude73 on July 06, 2008, 11:56:47 AMWell now the rhythm is correct at least.  However, I really don't feel that the slur and chord are necessary.  Plus your formatting is incorrect, so rejected for now.

Well don't tell me what I can do to fix that or anything!
Title: Re: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements
Post by: Echo on July 06, 2008, 05:30:24 PM
Is it seriously that hard to copy the format example? It's the topic at the top of the Subsmission page.

Put the title of the song in bold, and then put quotations around it. Press enter, write the game name, and then change it to size 12, italic. Write "Composition by _______", press enter, write "Arrangement by ______", and then unbold that part while making it italic. At the bottom of the sheet, write the company that made the game as well as the year the game was published. Press enter, and then put "www.ninsheetmusic.net".
Title: Re: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements
Post by: Nintendude73 on July 06, 2008, 06:11:36 PM
Quote from: DaveyTheRebel on July 06, 2008, 05:13:47 PMWell don't tell me what I can do to fix that or anything!
I'm not supposed to have to tell you that, you should have read it yourself.  Thank you Echo for going to the trouble of telling him here though.
Title: Re: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements
Post by: Davey on July 06, 2008, 08:45:54 PM
Yeah thanks echo, and it is fixed. (I think  ???)
Title: Re: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements
Post by: pumpy_heart on July 07, 2008, 08:03:50 AM
Thanks for all the support guys (those who offered it...)
Your version is wrong...or at least compared to the Arcade version of it.
If I recall correctly, the Nintendo version of Donkey Kong for the NES did have a different key than the Arcade. Personally, I prefer the arcade version.
The ppp is the way it is ingame..Like...You always hear Mario's Footsteps and Jumps WAYYYYY louder than the background music. So I arranged it appropriately.
Please know about music before you flame me...My piece starts on a C...not an A.
If you plan to submit this to the site, I dont mind getting rid of mine (now that yours has drastically improved and I have too many submissions already).
Also, it never hurts to check around before you submit something. Someone may have already done it.
So yea. Im a guy. I thought I should close with that.
Title: Re: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements
Post by: Echo on July 07, 2008, 11:57:14 AM
Um, why can't both be kept? There's multiple versions of this song, so why shouldn't we keep all of them?
Title: Re: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements
Post by: Davey on July 07, 2008, 11:59:41 AM
Okay, I see it now. I thought it was in Trebble clef not base  :-[ sorry.
and btw, i DID ask if the sheet was on the site
I asked JaMaHa, he said it wasn't there. He would know. So I arranged it, and if it doesn't matter, we could just keep pumpy_heart's version.
Title: Re: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements
Post by: Akiro on July 07, 2008, 02:22:37 PM
He meant look around in the submission, queue, and the in-progress-topic.
Title: Re: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements
Post by: DBJack on July 07, 2008, 03:50:29 PM
So many pages of messages over one measure..

Try here (http://www.ninsheetmusic.net/forum/index.php?topic=379.0)
Title: Re: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements
Post by: pumpy_heart on July 07, 2008, 04:04:34 PM
It's not on the site yet. I just had it done already.
I guess we can upload both of them, since they really are two different songs from two different games. A Key Sig change signifies a different song, so yea (I.E. Pokemon Diamond, Mystery Gift and WIFI Waiting Screen are different songs, although they are the same melody in different keys).
Title: Re: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements
Post by: iDOWN on July 12, 2008, 08:42:31 AM
Quote from: DaveyTheRebel on July 06, 2008, 05:13:47 PM
Quote from: Nintendude73 on July 06, 2008, 11:56:47 AMWell now the rhythm is correct at least.  However, I really don't feel that the slur and chord are necessary.  Plus your formatting is incorrect, so rejected for now.

Well don't tell me what I can do to fix that or anything!
He just did. Don't get angry. Maybe try looking at the top two stickied topics for more information. You should have done that before anything else.
Title: Re: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements
Post by: Davey on July 12, 2008, 10:49:32 AM
Well it shouldn't be any problem now, I fixed the formatting WEEKS ago. I am sure this is quality of the site now, but I think nintendude didn't even check it yet.
Title: Re: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements
Post by: Davey on July 26, 2008, 11:31:03 AM
DOES ANYONE CARE? IT'S FIXED NOW!  >:( IT'S BEEN LIKE A MONTH!
Title: Re: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements - Wtf Can anyone hear me?
Post by: pumpy_heart on July 26, 2008, 11:44:38 AM
Dude. Chill out.
The mods will upload it when they upload a big group of things when they have time.
Time to go outside...smell some pretty roses...take a walk. Just chill until that times come.
Title: Re: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements - Wtf Can anyone hear me?
Post by: Davey on July 26, 2008, 11:55:51 AM
There has been 2 updates while my sheet stood there. They should at least tell me if there is a reason that it hasn't been accepted yet, or if they just forgot.
Title: Re: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements - Wtf Can anyone hear me?
Post by: Davey on August 05, 2008, 04:15:49 AM
Forget this, I'm done arranging for this site. I need to put my sheets on my own website more. meh.

I guess this is more out of anger then in making sense, but who cares? It's only one small member not arranging for the site.
Title: Re: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements - Requesting for a locked topic :-\
Post by: Brawler4Ever on August 05, 2008, 06:39:16 AM
We have lives. We have a page worth of submissions to go through for games that we don't know or care about.

But it's your choice. I(for one, anyway[looks darkly at this thread (http://www.ninsheetmusic.net/forum/index.php?topic=977.0)]) don't care either way.
Good luck with wherever your going with your arrangements.  :)
Title: Re: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements - Requesting for a locked topic :-\
Post by: DBJack on August 05, 2008, 10:11:35 AM
Hurray for obscure games!  ;)


I'm not sure if you'll come back to see if anyone says goodbye. But you only were here for 1 update. And your sheet still needed to be cleaned up. There were a few small errors, and on a 1 measure song, that's like having 75% of the song errored. Now that it's fixed, it sounds fine, and probably will get added on the next update, which will probably be a little bit later this month. But this is your choice. Don't be too angry. Bye!
Title: Re: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements - Requesting for a locked topic :-\
Post by: Davey on August 05, 2008, 06:59:45 PM
Whoa whoa whoa! I never said I was leaving! Wtf stop jumping to conclusions, I said and I QUOTE.
Quote from: DaveyTheRebel on August 05, 2008, 04:15:49 AMForget this, I'm done arranging for this site. I need to put my sheets on my own website more. meh.

I guess this is more out of anger then in making sense, but who cares? It's only one small member not arranging for the site.

DOES IT SAY ANYWHERE IN THIS THAT I WAS LEAVING?
Title: Re: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements - Requesting for a locked topic :-\
Post by: DBJack on August 05, 2008, 07:17:54 PM
 :P No offense, but that conclusion was easy to jump to. Harsh words like, 'I'm finished!' your anger that you've stated, and the fact that you said that the site was losing one small member not arranging made it easy to mistake. And you also didn't state that you would stay on the forums.
Title: Re: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements - Requesting for a locked topic :-\
Post by: Lildigipoke2 on August 06, 2008, 09:18:41 AM
yeah..it was misleading....i thought you were leaving
Title: Re: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements - Requesting for a locked topic :-\
Post by: PianoMan on August 09, 2008, 09:45:02 AM
Quote from: DaveyTheRebel on August 05, 2008, 06:59:45 PMWhoa whoa whoa! I never said I was leaving! Wtf stop jumping to conclusions, I said and I QUOTE.
Quote from: DaveyTheRebel on August 05, 2008, 04:15:49 AMForget this, I'm done arranging for this site. I need to put my sheets on my own website more. meh.

I guess this is more out of anger then in making sense, but who cares? It's only one small member not arranging for the site.

DOES IT SAY ANYWHERE IN THIS THAT I WAS LEAVING?
Listen. I know this site is full of jerks, and it can be very hard to remain sane, too. but it's the same with the earth. It's full of jerks and other people that I shudder to think about. but does that mean that you should stop doing good for the world? Should you remain there and just complain about all of the bad things in the world? No, you should try to make all the good things better and set a good example.
Title: Re: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements - Requesting for a locked topic :-\
Post by: ALPRAS on August 11, 2008, 08:50:48 AM
If you dont arrange, what the hell are you doing here  ???
This is stupid...
Title: Re: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements - Requesting for a locked topic :-\
Post by: Brawler4Ever on August 11, 2008, 09:55:34 AM
Quote from: ALPRAS on August 11, 2008, 08:50:48 AMIf you dont arrange, what the hell are you doing here  ???
This is stupid...
...

1. Not everyone here arranges. I don't, for example. I used to, but it got repetitive, so I quit.
2. NSM doesn't like people leaving.
3. If Davey wants to not arrange here, there's nothing we can do about it.
Title: Re: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements - Reopening and Soon to compose.
Post by: Davey on August 12, 2008, 07:21:48 PM
Well, I've decided to reopen it.  ;)
Title: Re: DaveyTheRebel's Arrangements - Reopening and Soon to compose.
Post by: Lildigipoke2 on August 15, 2008, 11:12:18 AM
yeah...i don't arrange, but i'm good at editting/feedback...that's what i do

your choice though